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Misdreavus, Mismagius, & FlutterMane

S2 E21 · Daycare Dittos: A Pokemon Master Class
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BOO! Halloween is almost here and Johto just got a lot spookier! Don’t be scared, it’s just a podcast. But if it wasn’t, this little fella will suck the sweet, sweet fear right out of your noggin. Misdreavus and Mismagius joined the thin Ghost Pokemon family in Gen 2 and have continued to grow with Flutter Mane’s introduction!

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Podcast Reflections

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Boo, dudes. I got a Pokemon related question for you. Hoping you would help me. None of my other Pokemon do this. Why is my mischievous always biting my hair? Sounds like my cat. I don't really have much of an intro.
00:03:27
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Both of those intros were very good to me and landed perfectly. For those of you who don't know, Dave had a much better podcast before this one. By your tongue.
00:03:40
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It was called Calling All Creeps, and host Matt would always start an episode with boo-doots. And I recently turned on my coworker to listen to that. He's obsessed with you guys, and he's also the one who does all of the
00:04:03
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we get a like a board up that has all of like the the birthdays and work anniversaries and holidays and and stuff anyhow in a little slappy in the corner and just says that's great well depending on when this episode comes out there might be some more to love yeah because there is a goosebumps series on Hulu currently
00:04:31
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Oh yeah. And how? So check that out. Might be something there. Who knows? Yeah. If you love Dave and you ate me, uh, go over there. No, if you love Peter and you love me, then you got good taste. Yeah. Uh, we are the daycare dittos. We are, uh, not, uh, calling all the creeps. Uh, we are Peter. That is myself. I'm the one who was talking right now. Uh, hello.
00:05:00
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Uh, in random order, Sarah. Boo gals. Steven. Steven, use parish song. La la la la. Uh, and Dave. Wah, wah, I'm a baby, wah. Oh my god, you guys hear that crying of a baby? Oh, it sounded so childlike. That was so spooky. I'm shivering up a storm over here. I'm so scared.
00:05:30
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It sounded like Yoshi's Island. Mm-hmm. The crying baby. Yeah, definitely. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'd rather hear a baby cry like that. Imagine that'd be scary as fuck if a baby's like, wah! One of our guests has a baby, and he's got the deepest cry in the world, and it kind of reminded me of his.
00:06:01
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I said wham. Wham. Motherfucker. Yeah. Boss baby. Yeah.

Spooky Season Excitement

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We are in spooky season. We're continuing our spooky season. It's spooky season. Yeah, I'm so happy. Possibly ending our spooky season. Yeah, we're recording this a little bit out of whack, so I get confused very easily. Just like a haunted house full of mirrors. Hanging meat.
00:06:30
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Me. And I don't know. Flying women's head. Spaghetti and scrapes. Peeled grapes. Eyeballs. All sorts of spooky things. Yeah. So we are doing
00:06:51
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dark things that go caught in the night. We are doing spooky, scary ghosty pies, and we are here to scare, titillate, and delight you. Indeed. Sorry. We're here to scare, rat-titillate, and- Boobylose. Rectify.
00:07:17
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Yeah, we are on Pokemon number 200. That's a nice round. That's a nice round number, guys. Yeah, I deeply appreciate this Pokemon a lot more now after researching it. And I love how it came. I mean, we got to it at the perfect time. It's spooky season. It's a ghost. It's literally the perfect time for us to be recording this.
00:07:43
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Yeah, we actually planned this when we started the podcast all those years ago. Yeah, all of our life events just made it so that we would get to this Pokémon. Every delay. Yeah, totally intentional. Yeah, just all on purpose. Every cancellation that I've made because of like absolute panic attacks. But you look, she's such a cutie, so it's worth it.
00:08:09
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Yeah, the Pokemon we're talking about, and basically, two of the Pokemon we're talking about today, I had to fact check with my fellow co-hosts how I'm saying these names. We're talking about Mistrievous. Yeah. And, and Co. And you'll be pleased to be informed that there used to be one, then there were two. And by golly, now there's three of them.
00:08:39
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by golly. Yeah, I mean, like kind of kind of I don't get it. I mean, no, definitely. It has its own. Pokedex number. Yeah, but it's not like an evolution. It's not like the third evolution. But I mean, it's it's a totally separate Pokemon that you catch, you know, it's a totally different world family.
00:09:03
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Sure, yeah, no, absolutely the third form of this Pokemon, but not like the third form. Not an evolution. Yeah, exactly. Can they breed? Dave, can they breed? You're going to have to find out later. Yeah, that's interesting. As I furiously Google. You don't have to do it furiously. No.
00:09:33
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Dave's mad. Well, should we talk about what what this Pikachu looks like or? Yeah. Oh, of course. By the way, it's gender unknown. Oh, good. And no egg groups discovered. So okay. Treated as a legendary. Yeah, this thing can only can only be done with Ditto then. No, I don't think it can.
00:09:58
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No eggs discovered means it can't at all. Okay. Yeah. Mr. Swansick, please fact check. Fact check me. Gotta catch them all. All natural. So tell me about its color, height, weight, mouth feel. So this is your classic flying woman's head.
00:10:24
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You know, it's a real sock puppet ghost. You know, you take like a paper towel and you wrap a little cord around its neck and then it flies around. It's got some sick hair, really nice textured hair, possibly for reasons we'll discuss later.
00:10:48
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And she's got a cute little smile, you know, like she's she's she looks like she's ready to have some fun. So she's cute. She's a cutie. She's got a big head with the big eyes. She flows in the wind. A little mischievous smile. Yeah, we say she but it is 50 percent male female. Yeah, I don't even look at that anymore. Yeah, it's weird.
00:11:16
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They went one way or the other, but they've all recently they've just been laying smack dab in the middle. Yeah. Also two feet and two point two pounds, which I'm surprised it weighs that much considering it's just a ghost. Yeah, it's really ghastly. It was like one pound or something like that. So the ghosts are all over the place. Maybe it's just the necklace around its neck. That's what weighs something solid, maybe. Yeah.
00:11:45
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It's got like I also love how its hair has these like cute little gothy like pink tips, you know, like a dye to tear. Yeah. It's purple like a no actually it's like a bluish maybe color like a
00:12:03
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It's hair, and then it's got like pink tips. Yeah, and then like purplish pinky tips. The necklace is red. It kind of looks like a Jamam Pala.
00:12:16
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I believe it's called. I love that band. Japamala, which if we basically talked about and mentioned in the Cyndaquil episode where we talked about Hisui and Typhlosion, it's the same necklace. And it's kind of just like a like a channelers necklace kind of so.
00:12:41
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you know, has some kind of tie to the afterlife and death kind of in the necklace it wears.

Ghost Stories and Folklore

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Like everyone. Yeah. Who doesn't have a gem that steals souls and fear? Yeah. Love that. Love a fear gem. That's what they mean when they say blood diamonds, right? There's blood diamonds, fear diamonds.
00:13:08
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j-o crystals have we talked about j-o crystals a lot on this i don't think we have but it's i love i love the lore behind the j-o crystal uh for people who may not know about j-o crystals it's like a crystal that you get and it like
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You charge it by getting with friends and, and, you know, JO-ing together. Yeah. You got to crank off as a team to charge it. But they only, they'll glow if you have the real energy, but like, it's not a sexual thing. You're just charging your crystals. It's, it's purely for, for charging sake. Yeah. Like imagine if I needed to charge my phone and the only way to do it was to crank off with my buddies. Yeah.
00:13:56
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Yeah, luckily Mistrievious has a different necklace that, like Dave said, instead just absorbs fear and screams. So that's also fun. Yeah, it's more like a crank in necklace instead of a crank off necklace. I just think ghost Pokemon have the best Pokedex entries. I think ghost Pokemon are the most fun. Certainly, I agree.
00:14:22
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Like you get your bug Pokemon and your bug Pokemon are like his bug.
00:14:28
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And then you get to your grass Pokemon. It's like, loves the sunlight. Yeah. Sorry, that was so funny. Yeah. I mean, I almost don't even know where to start with the ghost stuff because I have probably like six or seven different ghost stories, all for Mestrievous because ghosts are just like so cool. And there's so many different cultures with such like interesting stories, like
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And this is how you tell the story, right? Yeah. You got to say, hold on one second. It was a dark and stormy night. No. Hold on. He's set in the mood. Oh, is it like a haunted house soundtrack that we're about to play? Or maybe for just read what I write. Oh, OK.
00:15:21
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submitted for the approval of the Midnight Society. This is the tale of. And now you say the name. Oh, OK. So let's just talk about I have a whole section called Ghosts. Let's talk about.
00:15:41
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the Nuki Kubi, which shares the similarities of having nocturnal habits, flying about as a decapitated head, and wailing to increase its victims' frights.
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a yokai and there were two different versions of it. It's basically like a woman and her head would either elongate like a slinky, I guess, just kind of flying around with like the neck just stretching endlessly as it flies around. Or the other option is just a flying woman's head. So just completely decapitated and separated from the body. And that
00:16:28
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A head would bite people and try to scare people. And it was said that the way to defeat it was to move or separate the body, because if it was moved at all, then the head could never reattach.
00:16:46
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um if you've ever seen there's like a really um cool um like old school japanese horror movie called haosu yeah that's exactly what i was saying good and there's flying heads uh in that one that you can see um they're they're featured in it so um i have more do you want me to keep going yeah right yeah it's spooky see all right so i don't know i'm a little scared
00:17:13
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I'll do one more and then we can take a break and come back. Because we'll be too scared. We have to go change our pee pee pants because we'll be too scared. Why don't you change your pee pee pants? Yeah, I'm just going to pee in them again. Let's just load up my pants. Give me more stories for Pippin. All right, submitted for the approval of the Midnight Society. This is the tale of the Banshee.
00:17:36
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um these are before you say stuff like these are female spirits from irish mythology um and they're known mostly for their unearthly wailing and screaming um so you have like the mythological banshees um who are like actual ghosts who will wail and and scream and um mourn the death of like loved ones
00:18:06
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It means fairy women, a woman in Irish, like Old Gaelic. And it really comes from these old style songs called Keening songs, or Crying or Weeping songs, which were songs that lamented death. And
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The other thing that was really interesting was because Gaelic is kind of like a language that's not spoken as much anymore. There's very few recorded songs, Keening songs available. But there are about maybe a couple. I think maybe I saw a video that had about four to eight of them maybe.
00:18:52
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But you can you can listen to them and they're just old Gaelic songs that you were supposed to sing like funerals. And that's kind of where this myth comes from. And then it also kind of reminded me a little bit of the Spanish ghost La Lorna.
00:19:10
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Um, we're part of the Conjuring universe. Yeah. La La Rona. I think either way, um, similar idea. Um, but she is like a specifically mourning the death of her kids, I believe in the story. So, um, instead of just prophesying death in general, um, like she's kind of like a vengeful spirit of her own right. So.
00:19:36
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But yeah, interesting stories. And Mistrievis. Mistrievis, sorry, I need to get in. I was pronouncing it wrong. That's why we had to have that conversation before. Same. But Mistrievis, she is like the banshee and the nuke-cubi in that she's a flying head that floats around and screams and wails.
00:20:03
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enjoys biting people and, you know, enjoys their suffering. So yes, you see that video of the Banshee. Oh, is it a banshee at sea? The ones that like scream and will sirens sirens. Yeah. If you look up, there's a recent video of guys on like a fishing boat and they see things like moving on either side of the boat and they hear like women screaming and they think it's like a modern sighting of a siren. It's really fucked and weird, but I
00:20:33
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Whenever you ask a question like that, you're like, oh, those women that are out on islands, I'm like, all right, if I answer sirens, is he going to say sirens these nuts? You never know anymore. That's so funny. I have to double check that if I answer that I'm not going to be pwned. Man, I've ruined society. All of my friendships are for not now. I fucked it all up.
00:21:02
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Yeah, but mischievous loves watching people who are scared and frightened. So, I mean, a lot of ghost stories I, I get really spooked about because to Steven's point,
00:21:15
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A lot of them are based off of things that can actually happen, like a mother mourning the loss of their children, and that's really sad and something you can relate to. But Ms. Trevis just likes to just scare people. It's fun for them. And its whole soul is fueled by and nourished by the fear of other people. So it does it to survive, I guess, which is- Ghosts don't need to eat, but they do need to scare you in order to get their energy.
00:21:45
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So basically this is a mystery, this is day. Wakes up after a long day of sleeping in a cave, wakes up, finds a person, yanks on them, bites them, bites their hair, sneaks around, cries and shrieks at them until they get scared. And then the little gem that they have will absorb that.
00:22:13
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And they'll get fed unless they encounter a very brave person. They hate brave people because they can't eat from them. Yeah. Also, if you put your ear to the amulet, you can hear the shrieking. What a fun fact. That was such a fun fact.
00:22:31
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Well, that's like their thing, like, because you got to learn how to do crying. It says that they imitate baby's cries and shrieks. So like on their way, part of a part of a day in the life of a three of us is on their commute to work. They listen to now. That's what I call screens and crying children volume 34 to learn all the good new screens. Oh, that was a good one. Yeah. Thirty five got to be up on it. You know that if you beat the shit out of them so good, they retreat to their little gym.
00:23:01
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Yeah, that's in like Pokemon Stadium too, right? That's how they faint. Yeah, if there's not enough fear Then they just wither and become a necklace That's like they're crawling into a fetal position, right? I'm just gonna become very lovely jewelry, which is what I would do if I got too many earthquakes and fire blasts I'd be like I give up and retreat into my gym and
00:23:28
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Streevous is only a ghost type, which is neat. It's one of those types that I can never figure out what's effective against it. What's not? Like, I don't know if you all had this experience. Maybe I'm just awful at Pokemon, but I think ghosts are only weak against ghosts. Yeah, they always confuse me. I get them confused a lot with dark.
00:23:51
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I'm so used to- Oh, and dark. Dark, they're weak to dark, and then they take no damage from normal and fighting type. Yeah. I used to just, when I thought of ghost type, think of like, Ghastly and Haunter, but of course they have the poison typing as well. So like, it's kind of tainted. And then eventually they got the levitate ability, which throws it all.
00:24:14
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But Mistrievous was our, Mistrievous, ugh, sorry, Mistrievous was our first pure ghost and also the only ghost introduced in Gen 2. That's where I was like, oh, I really appreciate Mistrievous because they are like a pretty good designed ghost type for being the only one.
00:24:35
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And I guess that's why I feel like a lot of the other ghost types are paired with another type. So it's difficult, at least for me, to remember what is effective against just ghost and what's not. Exactly. Yeah. Because there's yeah, like Peter said, there's not much. It's a short list. Right. But not many Pokemon have it. Dark doesn't really make sense because like ghosts love the dark.
00:25:05
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Like, when you don't leave the hall light on when you're running up from getting a glass of water, that's when all the ghosts come to get you. You guys know what I'm talking about? Yeah, I don't know. Shut off all the lights. That happened to me very recently, I remember. Before I went to my apartment, I don't want to, I'm like, I shouldn't talk to myself and where I lived. But before I went there, I went back home from in between apartments. And that's when Resident Evil 7 came out.
00:25:35
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not the one before village, whatever that was. And I remember I was playing it and I had to go pee and it was like three in the morning. And I went out in the hallway and on my way back, I did the little quick run, because I'm like, ooh. Yeah, I've done that before too, for sure. Way too old for that. Way too old. I need a good spooky game like that again. I remember, was it last year we were playing that spooky game? What game was that? PT.
00:26:03
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PT yeah and Steven you were trying to help me desperately when we were streaming that and I just couldn't fucking get it and it was scary at first but then I was just like okay how many times I'm gonna see this fucking fetus in the sink man like yeah can we just like come on it's like you come you become desensitized to the spooky things I just want like a real spooky spooky game that's like like I don't know straightforward and not puzzle-y like that yeah we got some we got some yeah yeah we can find a good one for sure
00:26:33
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There's there's a lot of good indie stuff now to like, which is great. But are we ready for some names? Yeah. So the English name comes from mischievous and dreamy or dream. And it may also involve mistress miscreant, dread or dreary.
00:26:58
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You know, they all kind of fit into the the name scheme. The Japanese name is a lot simpler. It's Muma. And a Muma in Japanese just means nightmare or demon in a dream. The French name is Faux Faurivé.
00:27:17
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Um, in French, a faux-foulet is the will of the wisp. That sounds like a dessert. Yeah, right. But it's, it's will of the wisp, which I think we talked about probably when we discussed ghastly, because it's, it's similar. It's just like a little ghost spirit in the woods. Um, but, um, you have faux-foulet, which
00:27:41
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then turns into faux-faux-rivée, and rivée in French means a dream. So it's the ghost of dream, basically. And then in German, you have traumfugil. Traum is a dream, and unfug is like nonsense or mischief. So it's like a mischievous dream. Mischievous dream. Yeah, all sorts of stuff like that. We call those wet dreams.
00:28:09
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Yeah. So that leads me into another ghost section. So submitted for the approval of the Midnight Society, this is the tale of the mare.

Misdreavus and Folklore Inspirations

00:28:27
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The mare is a malicious entity in German, Germanic or Slavic folklore that walks on people's chests while they sleep bringing on nightmares.
00:28:39
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Most scholars trace the word back to a reconstructed Proto-Indo-European root mare, which is associated with crushing, pressing, and oppressing. So like when we have nightmares, it's because this thing comes and compresses our chest by like walking on us.
00:29:00
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The mare was believed to ride horses and these horses would entangle the hair of sleeping men resulting in what were called mare locks or mare braids in Swedish or Norwegian which was essentially just like people having one mono dreadlock
00:29:24
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This was like a medical condition, obviously, we can recognize that now. But back in the day, people thought, oh, this thing in my dreams comes and twists my hair up and turns it into this dreadlock. And I have to leave it like that because that is the poison in my head leaving my body. So you would get what are called Polish play phenomenon.
00:29:49
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It's called that because it was a thing in Eastern Europe, not just unique to Poland, but it is called the Polish plate phenomenon. And you have these dreadlocks and hair locks that people grew
00:30:09
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And then on the west of Europe, those dreadlocks and hair locks became associated with witchcraft. And there's also this thing called the bazaar, which is a piece of hair that was partially digested by an animal. And they were thought to be antidotes for poisons.
00:30:35
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So yeah, just this like really weird connection with like these dreadlocks and these hair locks being associated with nightmares and wizardry. And that could explain why mistrivis has these like cool, like, locky hairs. Weird, right? What a really well designed Pokemon to just like tap into all these like kind of folklore ghost stories.
00:31:00
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Yeah, and then it's like the thing that it most commonly is associated with is something called a teru teru bozu, which is just like this tiny little ghost decoration that started in the Edo period of Japan.
00:31:16
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But it's what I was saying before, it's like the paper towel ghost. You just take a paper towel, you put a little rubber band around its neck and you hang it up, and that's supposed to be a sign of good weather in Japan.
00:31:31
Speaker
It's literally the word translates to shine, shine monk. So it's like a little monk that's supposed to bring sunshine. And so it's supposed to also just be something that kids can look at and be like, oh, that's the little thing that hangs around. It's supposed to be good luck.
00:31:53
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Let me say, I must say I, out of all the spooky creatures out there, like skeletons, werewolves, vampires, mummies, ghosts are my favorite. Oh, for sure. They're my favorite. And that story made me like them even more. That's a tough question. Like, what's my favorite scary thing? I like Dracula's. Hmm. Dracula?
00:32:19
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Yeah, I like Dracula's. I know Dave's. They have some weird rules, Dracula's, counting race and, you know, not being allowed to go in a house unless they're invited. Isn't that vampires? That's Dracula. Dracula's a vampire. I'm saying, yeah, I'm saying Dracula to be. Disregard me, please. To be funny, to reference what, Adventure Brothers? You know, actually, now that I think about it, I don't think I've ever seen Dracula.
00:32:47
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I don't think I have either. I just think that being undead like that, the certain powers that they have. Yeah, the interview with the vampire is very cool because a lot of it talks about
00:33:09
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immortality and like what you do with immortality. It's like an interesting look at it as opposed to like going back to high school like 20 times. Yeah, I haven't seen that but I'm mainly talking about what we do in the shadows. Nice. Yeah. The show or the newbie? Both. I've seen both.
00:33:29
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I love the ideas. The show's good. The movie where there's like a bunch of little girl vampires. And then they're like, they're like, yeah, then, you know, when you're bit, you kind of stay that age forever. Yeah. And then they're like, because they're these little girls, but they're like hundreds of years old. It's like, so what are you going to do? They're like, I don't know, you know, hang around, eat some pedophiles and like, oh, cool, cool, cool. Yeah.
00:33:55
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They have beef with the werewolves. Werewolves would be pretty fine. I think if I had to be something, maybe a werewolf, because I like dogs. It's so violent. It looks so painful. That's the only thing. Yeah, I've seen Wolf Cop. Wolf Cop is a wild movie. Yeah.
00:34:19
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I like swamp creatures a lot. Yeah. And mummies have been my obsession for the past like five years. I don't know why. Yeah. Mummies are pretty solid too. They're just mint on card zombies. All wrapped up. Frankenstein.
00:34:36
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Oh, yeah. By the way, I hate when people are like, actually, it's the Frankenstein's monster. It's like, come on, guys. You know what I'm saying. Not only do you know what I'm saying, but also, like, there's all the other movies that they've done by this point where it's called Frankenstein. The Bride of Frankenstein. Remember that? Remember that shit? Yeah, you were right with that. Remember that? Check a mate.
00:35:02
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Do you remember Young Frankenstein? Do you remember that? Mom was watching that in the hospital as you were being born, Steven. Oh, that's sick. Yeah. I'm going to watch a spooky movie when I'm giving birth. That one's also very funny. She's a silly little one. Yeah. The two signature moves that it used to have,
00:35:31
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Now, the signature moves are moves that only it can learn naturally. And even though Psi Wave is an older move, a TM that Sabrina used to get give you, Pokemon couldn't learn Psi Wave naturally.

Misdreavus in Pokémon Games

00:35:45
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So Psi Wave and Pain Split were mystery versus signature moves in Gen 2. Those are both
00:35:57
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Pain Split's pretty useful. I don't know if it's used anymore now or even if it's a move now. They did eventually cull some moves from the roster. Sighwave was just a worse Seasmic Toss. It was a worse... It would do flat damage based on your level.
00:36:21
Speaker
But unlike seismic toss, which would just do a flat 100, if you were level 100, Cywave had a little bit of variance to it. So wasn't that great? Pain split always confused me. Yeah, I think what happens with pain split, and I might be thinking of a different move, you add your remaining HP and your opponent's remaining HP together and then half it. That's what, yeah.
00:36:49
Speaker
So everybody has the same. Yeah. So it's kind of like an endeavor, but it's more sharing instead of bringing down to you. Yeah. So Mistry of this doesn't have a high HP stat. And if you imagine there's a Blissey in front of you, I don't know if you use pain split against the Blissey. I don't know if it's a ghost type move. Ghost type moves aren't effective against normal type Pokemon.
00:37:14
Speaker
But yeah, Blissey has like 800 HP if a mystery this has I don't know 80 HP remaining then all of a sudden like you're maxed out and the Blissey's got like, you know a Huge chunk of his HP gone. So yeah for endeavor. Yeah. What was my cool little trick you uh, I
00:37:37
Speaker
using yeah you use endeavor when you're a sturdy or protect pokemon you get down to 1 hp use endeavor and quick attack them yeah flail will also work yep priority move
00:37:52
Speaker
The fear it's at. Go back to our Ratatitti episode to listen to fear. Learn about the fear. I love that we're still calling it Ratitti. What else would we call it? Oh, that's a cool name. I mean, when you when you got it, you got it and it'll always be Ratitti the name. Me too. What else can we say? Oh, misrivas can use its hair as a hand. That's yes, it can.
00:38:23
Speaker
It appears in a couple different games. In Pokemon Super Contests in Diamond and Pearl, there are two named Mistrivises that are named Missy and Malice, which are amazing names. If I ever have twins, twin girls.
00:38:41
Speaker
Those are the names. Those are the names, Missy and Malice, for sure. Marina has one named Little Miss in the Legend of Thunder movie about Raikou. Marina is one of the main protagonist characters in this series for the Johto series, basically. So it's kind of like the male character, the female character and another character, Vincent.
00:39:08
Speaker
Jimmy, Marina, and Vincent. Three trainers from New Bark Town, and they are stopping the Team Rocket agents Attila and Hun from capturing Raikou. Pretty on the nose there, Pokémon. Yeah. I love that all of the Team Rocket duos are
00:39:29
Speaker
Like, you know, bandits and outlaw names and stuff. Jesse James is outlaw. Butch Cassidy. Butch Cassidy, outlaw. And now Attila and Hun. And the dog and the bounty hunter. Yeah.
00:39:44
Speaker
I also liked how Marina has a Feraligator named Wani Wani and a Jigglypuff called Pink. Aw, Pink. And then a Grimer called Stink. Stink, oh, yeah. And then also, Mestrievous appears in Pokemon Journeys, the series. Go is a protagonist alongside of Ash in that series. They kind of were double protagonists.
00:40:12
Speaker
and Go had one. I also then looked at, like, he had caught a lot of Pokemon. But I was like, oh, I wonder how many Pokemon Ash has caught. So does anybody want to take a guess how many? Yeah, it's Cody a lot. Does it mean individuals, like all the Tauros included? So I didn't like count Tauros 30 times. It was just like each type of Pokemon. And also, like, there are a lot of, like, loose
00:40:41
Speaker
like it's like traveled with ash and like also but like i tried to include everything that like he actually like was in control of and in command of for a little bit so man how many seasons were there again too many it doesn't matter uh i'm gonna guess at least 30 uh i'm gonna guess 72 i'm gonna give it a solid hundred okay it's uh 69
00:41:10
Speaker
Dave wins. He's the closest. Ash has caught about 66 Pokemon total. Yeah, it's confusing because when you think about how many Pokemon travel with him, you didn't catch them all.
00:41:25
Speaker
Yeah, well, like counting to like one of them was like Rotom and it's like, OK, he travels with Rotom, but did he catch Rotom? And, you know, so like I, there's you can look at the and make, you know, your own list and count them up however you want.
00:41:43
Speaker
But it seems like Ash's Caw, about 66 Pokemon. Most of the ones I didn't recognize were all the Ultra Beasts, because I really just do not know the Ultra Beasts. Me either. Like it said Naganatal. Who?
00:41:59
Speaker
Yeah, that's a prenatal vitamin. What is that? Oh, that's one of the newer Ultra Beasts that were in Ultra Sun and Ultra Moon, I believe. Yeah, it has a... It's like a little... It's like a purple... Sarah would love it. I was gonna say, if it's purple, I'm all about it. It's got that little hypodermic stinger at the... Yeah, it's like a... Basically like a purple mecha-beedrill type. Maybe I'm not about it then.
00:42:27
Speaker
Mega Beedrill. Mega Beedrill. Becca Sheeba, Becca Sheeba. But yeah, anyway, just I always like when characters have Pokemon and give them names, so. Yeah. Mystery will show up about them. Nobody will ever be wani, wani. No, little wani, wani. Fun fact, Ms. Magus' Shiny looks like a fart cloud.
00:42:55
Speaker
Mistrievous? Mistrievous, that's what I meant. Mistrievous's shiny makes it look like a far cloud.
00:43:00
Speaker
I love it. It sure does. With a little poop on the end. It's poopy. This is a fart that's attached to a shit. So what they mean is it's a nice dark green color with orange brown tips. And I love this shining. Yeah, it's poopy. I like it, but I like this better. It's a farting poopy. I like it better before Dave called it a fart.
00:43:28
Speaker
It looks like you're farting out anal beads. It's got nice fall colors, the shiny. Definitely. I guess farts are fall colored. You're farting out the anal beads. That's what's wrapped around its neck. Oh my god, that's so funny. It's a very silly time. Oh. Very silly time. Yes.
00:43:49
Speaker
My dad asked me today what the name of my podcast was, and this is the reason why I don't want to tell him. My mother listens to our podcast, y'all. My mother. What's your mother? Hey, how's your mother doing? My mother.
00:44:06
Speaker
There are some episodes where she was like, you guys sounded drunk. I'm like, yes. And then she's like, there are other episodes. She's like, why were your, why was your energy so low? I'm like, because we have wives and we weren't drunk. I was drunk every single of one of the first episodes.
00:44:32
Speaker
I have since reformed and I have not been drunk for most of them. Yeah, I haven't been drunk in an episode in a while. We've talked about this before. We'll fix that. We'll fix it. We'll fix that. Also, shout out to Sarah's mom because she got me
00:44:57
Speaker
Do Electric Stream, no, what's it called? Do Robot Stream of Electric Sheep, the book, because we discussed it in the Ampharos episode. Is that why she got that for you? Yeah, you got the Blade Runner book. Yes, so we're going to start Book Club.
00:45:15
Speaker
Nice. I'd read that. I did read... Shit, what's that other cyberpunk-ish book that's really famous? Cyberpunk 2099 for the PlayStation 4. Oh my god. I won't remember it right now.
00:45:38
Speaker
The Brave Little Toaster. Brave Little Toaster. That's it. That's the one. That's the ticket. Oh, Nuralmancer. I read Nuralmancer once and it was really good. It's like the same thing. Yeah.
00:45:50
Speaker
So I definitely got a recommend from me. Some like cyberpunk sort of stories are really spooky. I think in terms of things that scare me, like the idea of the matrix and shit like that, and like, I don't know, computers like rebelling against us or humans like becoming partial machines. That's pretty scary to me.
00:46:19
Speaker
AI is scary, definitely. We watched, Dave and I watched something, it's a spooky movie the other day. Oh my gosh, what was it called, babe? Oh my god. Leprechaun 2. That's it. Leprechaun in the hood. No, Megan? Was it Megan? Oh yeah, yeah, Megan. Yeah, that is like my worst nightmare. I think Peter, yours as well, because that's literally an AI robot that's like
00:46:43
Speaker
Think of like a service animal, but it's an AI robot for a kid. But it like its main job is to protect the child at all costs, which means it will kill things that poses a threat to the child. And it just got very real. And it could actually happen in our lifetime, I think. I mean, we already have
00:47:08
Speaker
self-driving cars throwing themselves into people because it's just like, oh, path of least resistance. I don't know. Yeah. I think humanity will kill itself pretty soon. I hope a new Pokemon game comes up first. That's all I'm saying.
00:47:35
Speaker
One thing that really bothered me now that I was made aware of it.
00:47:41
Speaker
Uh, mischievous comes after Murkrow in the Pokedex. Murkrow being an episode we have yet to record, but it will come out before this one.

Mismagius Evolution

00:47:51
Speaker
But Hodgecrow comes, uh, after Mismagius or Mismagius. That bothers me so much, but there was a reason for that. And the reason is because they're supposed to be parallels to each other. Like they both are gen two Pokemon that are, um, that evolved with a dusk stone and.
00:48:11
Speaker
all that like each one will not appear in each other's games you know so i think they were created together but man that just seems like a clerical error you know what i mean they should have not done it that way
00:48:25
Speaker
I think it was totally by mistake. I think so. Everybody gets to go first, you know? Miss Strievous went first, so now, you know, Honchkrow gets to go first. Don't get me wrong, I love both of them with all of my heart. Yes.
00:48:42
Speaker
in Scarlet and Violet. I'm sure I talked about it next slash last week. And Miss Magyus, Miss Magyus, however, we're just gonna say every single name. I use a lot in Gen 4 when it was introduced. I think that they were both
00:49:04
Speaker
excellently designed Pokemon that really just needed a second evolution because I remember not appreciating or liking either of them. And I think it was purely because as a child, I was like, no, I want Pokemon that evolve. That's why I play this game. So.
00:49:25
Speaker
I got snubbed with Sudowoodo and then as soon as I figured out things couldn't evolve, I was just like, I don't want you anymore. Maybe Miltank was the exception. I mean, for good reason. But I mean, Miltank also like fucked everyone up. Yeah. In this game. Like it's to the point where. Like I felt like ways that you'd want to Pokemon would be
00:49:51
Speaker
It's use in the game, you see it being incredible, but also like the TV show being really crazy, or just looking very cool or getting in a weird way. But like, Miltank was an unstoppable wall, but as like a young boy, I'm like, I don't want the farm cow, but like. But we wanted the farm cow. Still do. Yeah.
00:50:16
Speaker
Did we do Miltank already? Is that upcoming? That's gonna be a fun one. Oh, we would remember if we did Miltank. We've talked about... Well, the cards. We talked about Ambipalm's nipple hands. That's what I thought. We talked about nipples recently, didn't we? We are always talking about nipples.
00:50:41
Speaker
She hates the Braves, the Atlanta Braves. I think I hit all of my note topics. All I was going to say is I think, quantity-wise, best group of Pokedex entries yet.
00:51:05
Speaker
So many good Pokedex entries just crafted incredibly all the way through. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I think also too, Ultra Sun and Ultra Moon do deliver in their games, because I think Ultra Sun or Moon was the one about the shrieking necklace. It says, what gives meaning to its life is surprising others. If you set your ear against the red orbs against its neck, you can hear shrieking.
00:51:33
Speaker
Yeah. And then moon is what makes it happy is imitating the voices of weeping people and scaring everyone. It doesn't deal well with folks who aren't easily frightened. And then I like Legends Arceus because this is when Pokemon were actual threats.
00:51:51
Speaker
yeah so it has like kind of that eerie first discovery feel so it says uh it conceals itself in darkness sending chills of traveler's spines with the childlike weeping with its childlike weeping as it observes the frightened travelers with glee the red orbs upon its chest let off an eerie light love that shit real fun looks like a fart when it's shiny they made me pee again
00:52:18
Speaker
And then mystery this is the screech Pokemon Yeah, that's I felt like kind of weird for all the things they could have done. This is like a banshee. Yeah, I guess Nothing scares me more than hearing somebody shriek in another room. I
00:52:34
Speaker
Like all of a sudden I'll just be sitting there, minding my own business, charging my J.O. Crystal. And then all of a sudden somebody shrieks from the other room and I'm just like, what, what, what, what is that? Are you hurt? Are you dying? And it's just like, oh, I just remembered that I didn't get cheese from the grocery store. I'm like, I thought you died. So don't do that people. Don't shriek. Don't shriek. You heard it here.
00:53:05
Speaker
I only shriek when I see a bug. A bug? I don't like bugs. You and Misty both. Yeah. So as Sarah said, you make your mystery of this eat a dusk stone, which tastes like a grape candy, I'm sure.
00:53:23
Speaker
Uh, and, uh, we evolve, we go from Pokemon 200. Keep track of the, uh, numbers here, folks, cause they jump all over the place from 200 to 429. A Pokemon that we're going to call. Ms. Maggius. We're just going to call it Ms. Maggius. It's the magical Pokemon.
00:53:50
Speaker
It's two feet, 11 inches tall, weighs a whopping 9.7 pounds. I don't think I can lift that. I always thought Ms. Maggie has looked a lot bigger. Yeah. Like two feet. I was like, maybe like a solid five. I mean, it's witch's hat is probably like the size of a witch's hat.
00:54:12
Speaker
yeah maybe they don't count that in the height because it's no no clothing is part of the pokemon never mind it's gotta be yeah in one of my notes i have a very good typo and i can't wait to tell you guys tell us
00:54:29
Speaker
Oh, I just, uh, we can, we can wait. All right, let's do it now. Um, and then we'll talk about what this Pikachu looks like. So just a little spoiler teaser for what this Magius can do. Uh, it can force people into a, uh, into like a sleep-like dream world.
00:54:53
Speaker
And this can only be undone if Miss Maggius falls asleep or is knocked up. Oh, that's funny. I actually have a fun story about that. Yeah. So there's an episode about Miss Maggius, Miss Maggius, Miss Maggius.
00:55:19
Speaker
And it's its first appearance. It's debuted in Malice in Wonderland, where it's casting multiple illusions that cause Ash and his friends to see things that they desire most.
00:55:33
Speaker
And I'm like, I got a looked about this. So it's all about jelly donuts. Yeah, it's all about like, I think it's a Pokemon contest and everyone's going back and forth. So the playoff matches commence as Dawn is shocked at finding out that she'll be doing against her mother. Ash prepares to face off against Cynthia's request with his Pikachu.
00:55:54
Speaker
So, Cynthia is from Requaza and they see a Groudon and a Kyogre fighting. The contest battles start with Dawn's Piplat and Joanna's Phoebas. Phoebas suddenly evolves into Melodic and cuts Dawn's points in half. Meanwhile, many Nurse Joys and Officer Jenny's swarm Brock
00:56:10
Speaker
Suddenly their faces turn into Cro-Gunk as they attack him with multiple poison jabs. Brock suddenly wakes up, noticing that he and his friends are in a field. Cro-Gunk standing over him. He finds Ash and Dawn dreaming and notices a Miss Maggius nearby, realizing that the purple light must have been hypnosis. Miss Maggius casts another hypnosis on Brock and Cro-Gunk, sending them back. Brock finds himself back in the illusion as a stampede of Joyce and Jenny's rush hymn.
00:56:38
Speaker
Brock knows that this is an illusion and recalls Krogan before rushing into the stadium. Meanwhile, Jesse performs her part in the show. James finds a bunch of priceless bottle caps while Meowth gets comfortable spot on Giovanni's lap. So James just like gets to add to his bottle cap collection because that's what he wants. And Meowth gets just love from Giovanni. How sweet.
00:57:04
Speaker
Did Brock have an erection that entire episode? Yeah, the whole episode is filmed chest up. Yeah, good. Good. Good. Oh, wow. That's a doozy. So Ash fighting a Rayquaza was just part of his dream. Right? Yeah, I think so. And Professor Oak's there too. Okay. I have one point.
00:57:32
Speaker
I know Pokemon, I know that Pikachu and the power of friendship can overcome all, but if Pikachu doesn't get his bones blasted out of his body by Rayquaza, I think the show should have been canceled long ago. I love that Rayquaza though, or some people call it Rayquaza. No, not I, Rayquaza.
00:58:02
Speaker
So I'm just going to jump in real quick just to put that on the record. Miss Maggius is how the anime says it. OK. And I believe it is based on the words like mischievous, obviously, as the base, but magus like, you know, the magus sisters or something like that. So I guess from Chrono Trigger, a dark wind blows.
00:58:31
Speaker
Yeah, so I think that's where it comes from. But in other languages, like in French, it's Magi Reve, and that is, I think, from Magi. And then you have in German, Traun Magil. So that's Traun, Dream, and then Magi and Evil.
00:58:58
Speaker
The Japanese name is Mumarji, which is Mumma and Magi. And then my favorite, actually shout out to the Korean, is Mumagic. Yeah!
00:59:21
Speaker
But yeah, there is a magi, mage, magic, mages, magis, whatever, all throughout. But in English, I believe the pronunciation is Miss Maggius. Love it. Love it. Love it. Love it. And what does Miss Maggius look like again, my fellows? Miss Maggius is beautiful purple, all purple.
00:59:48
Speaker
with pink tips everywhere but it's it's imagine a witch hat and then under this witch hat is this spooky looking dude coming out from underneath where you can only see like half of its eyes and a little w-shaped smirk
01:00:03
Speaker
And then it's got its like flowy body like a ghost, but it's still got it. It still has its gems on its chest from when it was a mischievous, but it's just so spooky and purple and menacing. It's so, so good.
01:00:19
Speaker
Yeah, it's just like the mage's cloak and hat, but no limbs or anything. It reminded me always of Vivi from Final Fantasy IX. Yes. The dark mage. Black magic character. Black mage, yeah. Yeah.
01:00:34
Speaker
um also uh somewhat reminiscent to me of the um purple ghosts from paper mario and the thousand-year-old door um yeah they're cute coming to nintendo switch yeah yeah the remake is
01:00:50
Speaker
The purple coloring is possibly based on a Japanese spirit called the Nasu Baba, which was a woman with purple skin and a creepy smile. Her name literally translates to eggplant hag.
01:01:07
Speaker
Her spirit was said to have committed a terrible crime and to repent. She lives as a spirit in the temple and only appears to ring the bells if disaster strikes. So she's supposed to be like a pleasant spirit. But she was just like, she was all purple and had like a really gross smile, apparently.
01:01:25
Speaker
Well, that's interesting because Miss Maggias can either bring happiness or it can bring fear, sorrow, all the bad things go spring. You never know which one it's going to bring. So it's kind of like Miss Maggias is sought after by people, but I mean, it's really kind of a gamble because you don't really know what you're going to get from it.
01:01:45
Speaker
Yeah, they even say that Miss Maggius has been known to cast love spells. So people will go crazy looking for them because they want to be fall in love with this. It's a good way to get catfished. Yeah. And Harry Potter taught us that love magic is not so bueno. The thing too, I love the whole story of these Pokemon.
01:02:12
Speaker
because they talk about how people catch these Pokemon and they go crazy for them because they can bring you happiness the same way that they can bring you pain. They can change the emotions of people towards you. They can make people fall in love with you. They can do all this. And people go crazy to catch them and have them and make sure they're happy. It's the kind of thing where it's like,
01:02:38
Speaker
you have like, you could have like a terrible toddler that turns into like a really cool kid. It's like parenting because mystery of us like you don't want mystery of us around. Like literally it would just scream and wail all night. And the only way to really keep it up and alive is just to get all of your fear into its gems. And then meanwhile, then you get Miss Maggius that's like making you fall in love and be happy. But like the journey there fucking sucks.
01:03:06
Speaker
Yeah. Also, like, you're not even guaranteed that Miss Maggius is going to do any of that good stuff for you. Yeah. Like I said, it's like a gamble having one. Yeah. So I think the, I think it was the Arceus.
01:03:26
Speaker
entry says that it can ward off misfortune. So people do invite it into one's home, which like, okay, in Arceus times, like they're afraid of like, Mr. Mime, why are you inviting Miss Maggie into your home? Like, I don't get it, but all right, go off. But they do warn that if you displease it, disaster will surely ensue.
01:03:54
Speaker
So I don't know. That's too temperamental for my taste. And what would you even do to just please it? Be happy. You wouldn't let it eat your hair. Imagine seeing like a psychic trainer with a big bald spot and you're like, Oh, yeah.
01:04:15
Speaker
It's kind of crazy, too, because why would you want one? Because happy or not, when it cries, it gives people headaches and hallucinations. So maybe, I mean, I don't know. I don't know what kind of trainer would be tolerant enough to have one of these. Ghost-type trainers who
01:04:36
Speaker
have no problem falling asleep with monsters, I guess. Yeah, you have the right cat and it's the same. Do you remember the channelers in the lavender tower? They were all frickin weird and wild. Yeah, just off of gas leaves. Yeah. Agatha, the horniest woman I've ever seen in my life. Morty, I don't know.
01:05:04
Speaker
I don't know about that there, Morty. Allister. Yeah. Allister's cool. 10 out of 10 wood bone down.
01:05:14
Speaker
And then you've got probably Fantina. She's the French woman, who I believe had, in the Japanese version of the game, just had an American accent. And she had the Miss Magus, and yeah.
01:05:38
Speaker
killed the living shit out of me. She was either the fifth gym leader in one game and the third gym leader in the other. I think in Platinum, they changed her to the third gym leader, but originally she was the fifth. Ghost trainers are always the coolest.
01:06:04
Speaker
There's no way around it. Well, because ghost type has an edge to it, you know? But even Agatha is just an old lady with like a walking stick. And you ever see that animation of like a guard growing from her fucking shadow and stuff? Like even like an old lady's dope. And she's like nothing else. She's not dressed too special or it's just I don't know. Yeah, she has such a good job. She has Gengar's Pokeball at the end of her gnarled walking stick. And then she just presses the button.
01:06:33
Speaker
the pokeball opens and then the the red beam that's supposed to transport the pokemon out just like slithers to the floor so good so good oh my god my dad met somebody today with a gun guard tattoo and oh cool plugged our podcast so welcome
01:06:56
Speaker
We were at a wedding this last weekend, and the groom had his nieces there. And he was like, I need you to show my nieces your Snorlax tattoo, because it will make their day. And I was like, oh, they're not going to care, because they were kind of teenagers, and they're not going to care. But they were so happy to see it, and it made me so excited. Oh my god, that's really cute. So I mean, if you're going to get a Pokemon tattoo, do it.
01:07:26
Speaker
What if I'm not going to get a Pokemon tattoo? Get a Pokemon tattoo. Then still don't do it. Live your life. All right. I'll get a little Voltorb on my testicle. I knew it. Perfect. Just make sure it doesn't explode, and you'll be all good. All right. I'll get a Magnemite, and you get a Magnemite, and Steven gets a Magnemite. And then when we put our balls together, it's magnetized. All right. Oh, guys.
01:07:56
Speaker
Sorry, Dave. I'm being magnetized to your balls. Balls. Balls. Um...
01:08:07
Speaker
What else do we say about this lovely shiny is a like a yellowish green again. Yeah, it's kind of fart like this little poopy ish. Yeah, I like it. Still just spiky shit. It pulls it off way better than Espeon in time. Definitely in Diamond and Pearl.
01:08:28
Speaker
I forget what they had in terms of a battle tower type of situation, but I really wanted to make a go at it. So I made a team of Mismagius, Rampardos, and Atogakiss, and those were my three. I did okay. They worked well together. I liked them.
01:08:57
Speaker
Some good teamwork. Yeah. Yeah. I feel like that's kind of it, really. Yeah. Until we would have been done here. Yeah. Probably should have been done here, but it makes so much more sense to add one more Pokemon to the mix. That is it, but isn't it? But isn't it? But isn't it? Fluttermane, baby. Number 987. We're almost done, guys.
01:09:26
Speaker
What was at the end? One of my favorite Paradox Pokémon. Really? I like this one a lot. It's just the best Paradox Pokémon there is. It is so dope. It's basically a Mistrievous that looks so much cooler. Imagine Mistrievous is like...
01:09:43
Speaker
just like, you know, a tween that hasn't found its style yet. And then Fluttermane is just like, nah, I got this style. I'm gonna have my cool little mohawk. I'm gonna dye it red. I'm gonna grow my hair out and my necklace is gonna get fatter and my eyes are gonna get redder and I'm just gonna be a real cool boy.
01:10:03
Speaker
And I really love the shiny on Flutter Maine too because it's got like a white streak. It's got like the green with like the orange highlights, but still the red in the eyes and the necklace. Like it's just got so many colors going on and they're really cool.
01:10:27
Speaker
I don't know. I really liked Fluttermane. I mean, let's be honest, the past Paradox Pokemon
01:10:36
Speaker
were way cooler than the future Paradox Pokémon. I think all the future Paradox Pokémon are ugly. Every single one of them. They're terrible. They're boxed into a design. They're all so similar because they have to be just robots with whatever. I think
01:10:57
Speaker
the deli bird one, we'll get to it, but that one was really cool. Delivered? Delivered, yes. But yeah, I just, when I saw Flutter Maine, I was just like, ooh, yeah. It's also a ghost fairy type, which is like, yeah, that's pretty insane. The typing is great offensively.
01:11:24
Speaker
Other people can talk about Fluttermain more, but it is a dominant Pokémon in the competitive scene in formats that allow it. I think in some formats it's been previously or currently banned for being too overpowered, but Nintendo does allow Fluttermain to be used in the competitive scene presently.
01:11:49
Speaker
Um, it's got the stats where it needs them. Uh, you know, it can tank a hit, uh, or two and it just dishes out damage like a mother powerhouse. Yeah. It really, I mean, that's all Pokemon is, right? It's having the stats, having the moves and having the typing. That's fair.
01:12:19
Speaker
I loved how in the Pokedex entry, it says it has similar features to a ghostly pterosaur that was covered in a paranormal magazine, but the two have little else in common. So I love how the real life dinosaurs for us are their version of like paranormal magazines. It was a cool little shout out. So cool. It's just such a cool Pokemon.
01:12:48
Speaker
Yeah, the names aren't that interesting. I don't like the naming conventions. Why? Like, why did they do this? I am not entirely sure. The Japanese name is Habatakukami, which literally is just the words fluttering and hair, like mixed together. So it seems like even in Japanese, it was kind of just like two words smushed together.
01:13:15
Speaker
But I don't know. Yeah, I just don't understand. It's just very different than every other Pokemon. And if you're going to give it its own Pokedex entry, like make it its own Pokemon, why not kind of make it fit in with the I also love how it just sounds like a My Little Pony.

Paradox Pokémon Naming Critique

01:13:34
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Yeah. Yeah.
01:13:37
Speaker
Because Peter Peter said it I think first on the podcast before I had even gotten to the paradox Pokemon so they were all mysteries to me so it's like Flutter main what Pokemon could that be like and then it's mistrievous and I'm like, oh, okay. I guess so Yeah, what was jigglypuffs again? I don't know screen tail I'm like, what the hell is that? I'm like a jigglypuff like oh
01:14:06
Speaker
Iron Bonnet. Yeah, some of the names are just like, all right. Sandy Shocks. Hairy Asshole. Slither Wing, that's another one. Slither Wing, yeah. I don't even know the future paradox Pokemon's names. I had Violet, so that's all I had. Yeah. Iron Moon, Iron Fridge. Oh, they're all Iron, right, yeah.
01:14:34
Speaker
Iron butt hole. Aluminum nipple snatch. That's one. Yeah. For sure. But yeah, it's just people say that it's a pterodactyl. That's about it. Pterosaur. And it's huge. It's big. Yeah, eight feet, eight inches. Four feet. Four feet, I'm sorry. But eight pounds. Eight pounds.
01:15:03
Speaker
still very light very tired oh no worries yeah eight feet would be horrifying just a giant flying eight foot head that would be uh i don't know if anybody's ever seen it but in silent hell four there's a room where you can enter and there's just a giant head staring at you and it is very unsettling it's like the dare song from the gorillas
01:15:30
Speaker
Yeah, exactly. Which is also kind of unsettling. Yeah, definitely. I love the gorillas. That early era too was very like gross and dark and I can't follow the lore anymore. I'm sorry. I don't know the lore. I just love their music.
01:15:52
Speaker
Yeah, but back in the day, I was very invested in the lore. At this point, it's too much. The new music videos are a lot of fun with the whole cult-like shit. They are. I liked how they had it for a little bit with the Powerpuff Girls character came in and was the bass player for a while. Yeah. Or the gang green gang guy. Yeah, they've got Ace from the Gang Green Gang replaced Murdoch Nichols for a little bit.
01:16:18
Speaker
to read up on them because I've been like ridiculously into the gorillas like non-stop listening to them. So I'm going to read up on their lore tonight. It's a lot. It's too much. My parents actually introduced me to the gorillas when I was a kid. They used to love them a lot. They had good taste then. It's one of the first albums I ever bought. Yeah. Dad stole it because he wanted to listen to it so bad.
01:16:48
Speaker
And that is our history lesson for this Pokemon for this day. I'm going to say that it's time for us to guess numbers.

Misdreavus in TCG

01:17:03
Speaker
Guess some numbers. Do you happen to be talking about guessing
01:17:08
Speaker
How many cards did these fellas appear? Yes, I would love to give my best educated guess. And for one of us, the good thing about this game is that one of us is always the winner. That is true. Because one of us is always the closest.
01:17:30
Speaker
You guys are pretty good at this game. You have a very good grasp on how many cards, you know, these guys appear on. Like, there haven't been any that you guys have been, like, totally off base for, I think. Maybe one. I think there was one. I forget who it was, but you guys were just, like, really, really...
01:17:53
Speaker
I feel like I was completely off base with Pikachu way back in the day, thinking that there would be much less than there actually were, but I might be wrong. I don't remember, I have to go back, but... Anywho, who's ready to guess how many Mistriva's cards are in the TCG? Hit me.
01:18:15
Speaker
Peter, take it away. Okay. I'm visualizing this number in my head and this number is 17. I was gonna say 14. 20. Dave wins. There's 19. Hey, would you talk about Willis? Yeah, a popular little guy. Popular little fella. All right, what about Miss Maggie is?
01:18:45
Speaker
Sixteen. Fifteen. I'm feeling like eight. Who said sixteen? Steven? Steven did. Yeah, you win it right on the money. Sixteen cards. Nice. And, um, alright, I guess for shits and giggles. Slaughter main. Slaughter main. What are we thinking? Uh... Two. One. Zero? Okay, we have zero, one, and two? Yeah.
01:19:12
Speaker
Dave, you're right. There are zero cards. Wow. Yeah, I didn't think I saw any of those yet. They didn't make any Fluttermains. That's crazy. It's kind of surprising, right? I was surprised by that. That's an entire Pokemon. I know. I was hunting for it. I was like, where is the TCG section? And it doesn't have one. Quite shocking. Yeah, right? They're saving the best for last. That's right. That's right.
01:19:40
Speaker
They're probably doing something crazy, like creating a new foil, a new type of foil. There's that DLC, right, coming out? It's out. Oh, it's out? Yeah. Well, look at that. Maybe they'll make cards when it's, you know, a little bit more, I don't know, out there. I don't know. That was my hypothesis. I'm like, maybe they'll do it when the DLC comes out. Whoops.
01:20:05
Speaker
Yeah, I definitely want to play it. I just addicted to Path of Exile and I know I have to play Baldur's Gate because I know that's good too, but I just keep on getting distracted by my game that is just cracking my veins.
01:20:22
Speaker
Well, I'd like to quickly shout out Frostwad recommended to me this game called The Cosmic Wheel Sisterhood, which is a game all about witches where you get to design your own tarot cards, basically. And they determine your dialogue options in the game, basically, kind of. And it's a fun little adventure text-based game.
01:20:48
Speaker
with cute girls, cute little witch girls. And it's really fun. So I highly recommend it. Frostwad recommended it to me. So shout out to her. That's an awesome game.
01:21:02
Speaker
Cool. Let us know about your favorite games. Now, babe. I have a game. Ooh. It's called Who You Gonna Fuck. At the beginning, at the top of this episode, you said there was no fucking allowed. Uh, not for Fluttermane. Okay. Not for Fluttermane, but doesn't mean those other ghosts can't get all spooky in their kabuki. Uh... Spooky spooky. That's what I'm talking about, baby. So... Here we go.
01:21:34
Speaker
Clefairy, Grimer, Coughing, and Golden. One more time. That is Clefairy, Grimer, Coughing, and Golden. I'm going to say Coughing. I'm going to say very. Golden. Golden is nuts.
01:22:02
Speaker
Peter wins for that funny joke. But who, wait, Sarah, what did you say? Clefairy. But you win because Clefairy is actually correct. So Grimer, Koffing, and Gulpin are all amorphous Pokemon. Well, Clefairy is a fairy. I was like, they're all blobs. Yeah, they're all blobs. They're all blobbing.
01:22:25
Speaker
Well, coughing is a fart, and Mistrievous is shining. Is a fart. So of course, that's how it works. If they look like farts, they could fuck. Sitting cutie, Mistrievous. And was there any popularity? Oh yeah, I totally forgot about that, but there was. So crazy, the sitting cutie Mistrievous, bad. But the ditto as Mistrievous plush, good.
01:22:57
Speaker
Yeah, that's not great. The mystery of this. Yeah, pretty wild. It's not good. It's not a good one. One is so cute. The diddle one's great. It should be the same fucking thing, but it's just not. What about the Miss Maggies? And they probably don't have a Flutter name sitting here. The mystery of sitting cutie looks like it like face planted into a wall.
01:23:25
Speaker
Yeah. And its hair looks like it has like a bottle of hairspray in it. The Miss Maggie is sitting cute. He's okay. Yeah, it's not as bad. And then for our favorites, so in 2020,
01:23:42
Speaker
I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Hold on miss Maggie is his face on the sitting cutie is offensive Go ahead. Yeah, they're all they're both not great. They're not great for good Pokemon their Representation and plush horror not awesome. I'll say I'll say not awesome Yes, so 2020 and Johto
01:24:10
Speaker
Mistrievous was 27th behind Woopern in front of Shuckle. And then, when you're looking for Gen 5, Miss Maggius is 27th as well behind Roseraid in front of Shinx. But overall, Miss Maggius just beat Mistrievous by being 211th versus 222nd for Mistrievous.
01:24:35
Speaker
And then in 2021, Misdreavus was 30th overall. And it's Jodo, but other than that, nothing else much to do with it.
01:24:58
Speaker
So yeah, that's about it. I mean, at least they made the list relatively popular. Yeah. What did everybody learn today?

Episode Reflections and Laughs

01:25:11
Speaker
I learned all about these ghost stories. And it kind of just reminded me that a lot of ghost stories come from real life events that happened that are very unfortunate.
01:25:21
Speaker
Yeah. I think the biggest thing I learned is that mistrievous is a pure ghost. So if I want to remember my typing, remember what works on mistrievous. I learned, I thought I learned that there was no fucking allowed. And then I learned that there was fucking allowed and I was happy. So thanks, Dave.
01:25:46
Speaker
You're welcome. Feel free to fuck at any time. I will. If you liked our jiggles and jangles, thank Carl Jerm, very friendly guy. He'd love to know you. If you want to see cool little snips and snaps that are
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Speaker
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01:26:24
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