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Wild Things (1998)
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This week we are joined by returning guest Ashley Casseday (Keep It Weird/The Losers Club)! For Garrett and Ashley this movie welcomed them into adulthood far too soon. Kit on the other hand was finally able to transition into adulthood after seeing this for the first time in her mid 30's! It's time to breakout those scratched up Full Screen Unrated DVD's and see how much you actually remember from this bizarre 90's classic!
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Introduction and Guest Welcome
00:00:00
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Ladies, gentlemen, folks beyond the binary, grab your husband, wife, partner, mistress, your high school sailboat teacher and gather around your radio. It's time for this week's meeting of the Erotic Thriller Club.
Film Overview: Wild Things
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Let's hop in a time machine to 1998 and talk about some real Florida-ass problems. What happens when the brain trust of country club trash, swamp trash, and high school guidance counselor trash threesome their way into some MILF money?
00:01:21
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Sex crimes? Got em. Fan boats? Got em. Twists all the way through the gosh damn credits? Oh yeah, we got em. This week on the Erotic Thriller Club.
00:01:33
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Wild things. Hey everybody, welcome to this week's Meet into the Erotic Thriller Club. As always, Garrett Callender and Kit Ryan here. And this is where we answer the genre's three most important questions.
00:01:45
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Was I aroused? Was I thrilled? And would I ruin my life for this person? Boys and girls, this week we're joined by a very special guest. You know are from the Keep It Weird podcast, the Losers Club podcast.
00:01:58
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Welcome back to the club, Ashley Cassidy. Hello. My favorite part of this movie. Okay, I'm going to say that about 89 times during movie. But my favorite part of this movie right in this moment is in the beginning where he writes sex on the chalkboard and everyone goes, woo!
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And then he writes crimes and everyone's like, boo! Sex! Crimes! Oh, man. Dang it. yeah who yes cris ah yeah dan it Honestly, high school kids booing sex crimes in 1998 seems pretty progressive.
00:02:32
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Yeah. like you florida We are against sex crimes here at this high school. In Florida, USA. this is probably the most Florida movie I've ever seen, actually.
00:02:47
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It's pretty high up there. um there I mean, there's Everglades. There's... alligators um well there's one at least one alligator and they show him about 49 times they were real proud they got that alligator honestly i kind of forgot this was in florida is it started my brain for all of these erotic thrillers just goes to nolens
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We've spent a lot of time in the bayou on this podcast. Oh, really? It's a very steamy atmosphere. I get it. get it. Yeah, you can tell this one's the glades and not the bayou because of... um I actually don't know. i was going to say the gators, but there's definitely gators in the bayou, right?
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no a Life will find a way.
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so you know What is the difference? I feel bad that you two have to be here for this because most of the thoughts I have about this movie, I feel like should be between me and my diary.
00:03:56
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Yeah. Yeah. this is however However, you also have two ladies on this show who like the ladies. So really, you are you are recording with the two perfect ah people for this. Exactly. was sexual awakening for us as well.
00:04:16
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In many ways, is this podcast not our diaries? Already. Yeah. This is a way for me to tell my diary to strangers in Spain. Hola to all of our Spanish listeners.
00:04:34
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Hola. Te amo. When did you all see this for the first time?
First Impressions & Plot Twists
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Immediately. 1998, baby. Loved it. was 11. I 11. but i was eleven so I was 10.
00:04:50
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No, I was probably 11. If it came out in 98, it was on VHS the year later or yeah on Cinemax or Starz or whatever. So I was i was probably 11 as well in 1999. So I was in the 12 to 13 range when I saw this then. It was...
00:05:07
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who I had not seen this since high school. neither. It was a really fun experience. Wait, wait. Time out, time out. and you so I to tell you when I first saw it.
00:05:18
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yesterday. the f*** out of here. I'm sorry. Get the F out of here. We don't swear in the first 10 minutes. ah Seriously, you sleep i um i had seen the poster and the ah the cover of it, the iconic cover of the VHS, and i ah it's like some part of me knew, like, this is this is going to change me if I see it.
00:05:46
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I can't. I can't do this. I'm not you ready. I'm not ready. And I was 100% right. This would have changed the entire trajectory of my life if I had seen this at ah at a formative age.
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um you'd be gaying yeah gay huming Would be I'd have been gayer earlier. i would have um My feelings about Neve Campbell would have been entirely different.
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she You see a lot of her back. You see a lot of her back. That one titty. I was so upset.
00:06:19
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Disappointed once again. Decades later. i Same. I literally, as we were putting the DVD in, because I did watch it on my old scratched widescreen on one side, full screen on the other Oh, beautiful. oh I forgot that was even a 1000% sure it would play all the way through. It did. we were very pleased. But I told Joe as we as we turned it on, I was like, can I be honest? I don't know what this movie is about.
00:06:48
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I saw it. And I know there's, it's sexy. It's a thriller. I don't know what it's about. And he literally was like, neither did the director or the cast. You're, you're fine. And plus it means all the thrills, all the twists ah kept surprising you.
00:07:07
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The endless twist. like Endless. if that If the last 30 minutes of this movie movie were just, you know, the season finale of a show, I don't know how it would be received.
00:07:20
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Folks, there are so many twists in this movie, they don't have time to do them all, and are still doing them as the credits roll. Yeah, they're like, oh, we gotta wrap some stuff up and make sure you understand how this happened.
00:07:35
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And... They even cut a major twist. Stop it. There was another twist. Yeah. Is it in the extra twist? It's not in the unrated. They never filmed it Because of someone. Somebody didn't want to fuck Kevin Bacon.
00:07:55
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stop it. Okay, because I wrote in here. um Where's the male on male sex scene? Yeah, I i literally it did. I said, I wrote right here. Is Matt Dillon going to pour champagne on Kevin Bacon and they
Character and Scene Analysis
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will make out too?
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And you're telling me I could have had that. Yeah, it was in the original script. It shouldn't be legal for an actor to sign a contract, get to the day of filming, and say, I'm not going to do that.
00:08:25
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Well, a little bit of a conspiracy because the director... who also directed Henry, A Portrait of a Serial Killer. Fascinating. and Fascinating.
00:08:37
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um The director, Makana? Makana? I don't remember his name. Sorry, director of Wild Things. But he says... that it was matt dylan or he he didn't ever say matt dylan he just said one of the actors didn't want to do it and we know it's not kevin bacon we know it's not kevin bacon he is down to clown because produced the goddamn movie and he produced the movie um not to mention he's the one who shows dong so clearly dude is down to party yeah which was an accident apparently yeah that he didn't agree to that
00:09:12
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No, no, that was accidental. I know that because I looked up the male on male sex scene that got cut because Joe told me about it last night and he said the same thing. he was like, yeah, one of the actors didn't want to do it. And I was like, Matt Dillon. He was like, we know it was Matt Dillon.
00:09:26
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But Kevin Bacon said in an interview, when I looked this up, Kevin Bacon said it was the financiers who cut the final sex scene. But there was another quote from Matt Dillon that was like, I'll be honest, I wasn't disappointed they cut that.
00:09:43
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I think there's a few factors working against the guyon guy on guy. And I'm angry at every single one of them. I mean, that's so classic 1998, though, to be like, everyone's going to think it's hot that these two chicks are making out.
00:09:56
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But like, we can't have none of that gay shit. It's like, I don't think you know what gay means, sir. Well, and you know it can't be like there are too many twists already because they would have thrown another twist in there if they could. Happily. Happily.
00:10:11
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They just couldn't think of another one. They're like, we got them all. that It's all covered. We did every single one we could. I don't believe, though, that the Kevin Bacon thing was not on purpose. I know they said they had filmed it.
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he It was in his a no nudity clause in his contract, which he is the producer of the film. So presumably he had like a look at this thing and would have been like, Hey, now you've caught that, cut that donger.
00:10:41
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I'll tell you why I don't believe it though. They said that what happened is the the editor who was a lady said that the movie has so many tits that they're like, why this is not fair to everybody. Like we need to see a little flash.
00:10:53
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And they said that was the best the best take showed as Dong for a second. But here's why I don't believe it. He is half chubbed when he turns around. he fluffed himself before he showed me his penis on camera.
00:11:07
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Yeah. Maybe he was just thinking about that cool sex scene he was about to get to do and then didn't. In fairness to Bacon, I don't want to kiss Matt Dillon either. I'll kiss brother. They really tried to Matt Dillon us in the but Yeah, they did he really wanted Matt Dillon to be a thing. And I mean, it ah like listen, he he works in this movie because he is kind of a little skeezy and off-putting.
00:11:35
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Like, yeah it makes sense. That's how my sailboat teacher was. Yeah, can we talk about this school that is apparently public high school in Florida that is like a dock is right.
00:11:51
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Like you can take your boat to school like other kids ride their bikes. yeah And they have a sailing class that is taught by the guidance counselor, which I don't think that's how that works.
00:12:03
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um But that's kind of like... got taught by a... Yeah, I was going to say my football coach taught me how, so... A bus driver taught me sex ed.
00:12:13
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Stop gar it, Garrett. No. what Okay, stop the podcast. What are you talking about? What do you mean the bus driver taught sex ed? He wasn't a teacher. He didn't teach anything else besides bus
00:12:28
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Garrett, I knew you went to a podunk school. I didn't realize we were on that level. He's like Ken from the Barbie movie. His job is bus.
00:12:43
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Was it because they were splitting up the boys and girls and there were no male teachers around? The lunch lady taught the girls sex.
00:12:51
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The bus driver taught the guys. What do you not get, Kat? I'm sorry we didn't go to some elite high school. I didn't either. and I'm some inland swamp trash, okay? I'm some southern Illinois two hours from Kentucky trash.
00:13:10
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Yeah. What is that slur from the- seat either What was the slur from the Heather Graham movie? that Was it Inlander? Or Flatlander? Flatlander!
00:13:22
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Yes. And we are. we are all of us Flatlanders. Now, I'm into Blue Bay High, though. Yeah. I'm into Blue Bay. Fancy, fancy, fancy.
00:13:34
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Blue Bay is a place where there are no rules. at all especially of rich people rich people least of all yeah which like i get that i wish that commentary had been a little stronger in this movie tbh yeah they like new york it's a melting pot of white it's like it's really just it's more of a fondue yeah far too rich white apparently genius iq trailer park white see okay because the movie definitely has a thought or two about class divisions because matt dylan is uh the guidance counselor at high school where there are a lot of rich people and he keeps trying to fuck all the rich moms i guess and get into the yacht club
00:14:30
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and uh it's not really working for him and uh the the one mom even tells him like none of these women will marry you you they will fuck you and that's it yeah like stop dreaming kiddo and which was that his goal his goal was to be rich that's definitely his goal get mine Yeah, I guess that was his goal, but the problem is this movie's really weird tonally.
00:15:02
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it's the first half is The whole first hour is a mislead to take you on this um really weird second half. but I don't know. the movie The movie is simultaneously the most and least serious movie I've ever seen.
00:15:18
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Yeah, it's like way too serious. So serious. And then it's like, okay, but also Bill Murray is his shyster lawyer who's like wearing a lawyer fake neck brace to to win insurance money.
00:15:34
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And it it is a laugh a minute up here. He was apparently in on it the whole time. Yeah. I wonder when Bill Murray was... When did Bill Murray get in on the scheme? That's the part that we didn't get from the credits. is like Was Bill Murray in on this from day one? at what point did Nev recruit him?
00:15:59
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Oof, that's good question. I took it that basically from the moment, I mean, there's no reason for me to believe this other than that's where my brain went, is that once you see the end, surprise, the twist, Bill Murray is, Bill Murray's the final twist of this movie. is I mean, I guess we're super out of order on this one. We're not just following the movie. We can't.
00:16:22
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How could you? How could you? could possibly follow this chronologically? Okay, we'll we'll try we'll try our best So we start We'll do our best. Forget everything have. So Matt Dillon's a guidance counselor, and he's giving some kids a ride home from school, even though one of these girls is super rich, and she's
Music and Tone Discussion
00:16:42
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a senior in high school. She should absolutely have her own car. But it's fine. And he's... It's clearly a ruse.
00:16:50
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Clearly a ruse. and And clearly... um He is trying to do everything to keep appearances up. He gives her ride and a teen boy a ride at the same time. So he's not in the car with just one of them. Like he's doing his best to like keep things above board while we listen to semi charmed life by third eyed blind, which is led up almost immediately by a smash mouth tune.
00:17:16
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And when those aren't playing it's jazz. What's the music? What is the music? What is music? but are you mad Are you meaning the score of the movie?
00:17:31
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The score. I don't know if you noticed in the credits, I watched to the very, very end because God forbid I miss a twist. There'd be a Marvel mid-credits twist yeah and then an end credits, like at the very, stinger twist at the very end.
00:17:48
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They had people from each of those bands do scores. So one of the guys is credited as this person of Smash Mouth worked on like pieces of music that fall into the movie. There were like four different guys from four different bands or something like that listed.
00:18:08
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Yeah, because it goes from radio tunage to this strange...
00:18:18
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jazz soundscape and then interspersed are like is like a woman going like woo woo woo
00:18:36
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but you know somebody's about to get killed or come when you hear that lady woo boing yeah good found myself kind of wishing that it was like um Oh, what's the other one we did with you, Fear?
00:18:51
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Yes, um where they played wild horses. just teenage girls. Where they played wild horses a million times. Four times. I really wanted a semi-charmed life to come back like four or five times in this movie.
00:19:03
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Do, do, do. Do, do, do. The best music cue in the movie, though, was Why Can't We Be Friends by Smash Mouth. Because as they pull up to the front of Denise Richards' house, her hot mom comes out in a bikini, just spilling out, flirting with the the teacher.
00:19:22
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And he talks to her for a second, is really like kind of shoving her off. yeah And then as he drives away, cranks the radio up, and Why Can't We Be Friends starts up.
00:19:33
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I love that. like he's just He's not having it. What is that whole relationship between Denise Richards and her mom about? Okay. They're like competing.
00:19:46
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Yeah. It's weird. and You get the feeling that, okay. So first of all, the dad committed suicide and clear. And oh my God, the response. I wrote it down. Mom. wow I wrote it down.
00:20:02
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We all did. we all wrote it down is it you can't miss that eye roll that eye roll and like I miss him too
00:20:14
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yeah she's basically telling her mom how much she misses her dad and how sad she is and her mom goes he didn't have to kill himself Kelly what mom while she's crying all mom can think of is do you want a Valium?
00:20:33
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The amount of people that offer this teen girl a Valium throughout the movie made the late 90s seem awesome. Take me back.
00:20:45
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Take me back. We live in a world where they're like, we should get rid of antidepressants because too many people are on antidepressants. I can't imagine why. Go back to poppin' volume like it's Tic Tacs.
00:20:57
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I want to be able to get them out of the quarter machine at the end of a grocery store. The gashapon. yeah Who knows what those... You know what, since it's the 90s, we can get quaaludes in there too. You don't know what you're gonna get.
00:21:11
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Uppers, downers. Both. Inside outers. Did anyone else? So after Matt Dillon splits from that house, it immediately goes to him just silently fan boating the bayou.
00:21:27
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Did you get the same vibes of like Kenny Powers on the jet ski in Eastbound and Bound? yeah now that you mention it yeah yeah absolutely i thought that fan boat was gonna have more of a life in this film yeah why didn't they use the fan boat to dump a body that would have been fun because nobody there were no bodies and that's a spoiler for later spoiler alert yeah i really thought it was gonna be a bigger character For anyone who might be worried, this movie opens up with talking about sex crimes and date rape and all
Themes of Sexuality and Humor
00:21:59
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that.
00:21:59
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And don't worry, none of that is happening. No, there's no rape. Or, well, statutory. But I guess not, because the actresses are 24 and 27 years old.
00:22:11
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And the characters are 18. Oh, they are! Yeah, they explicitly say that they're both 18. Everything in movie is legal.
00:22:20
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Eh, it's still getting fired. Like, you're still, it's still bad. Guidance counselors should, shouldn I know this sounds crazy, not have sex with their students even if they are 18.
00:22:36
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party pooper party pooper I know if they don't keep sleeping with our students I can't keep coming on this show nice
00:22:47
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the show won't exist and so mom's a ah big old slut and once slept with Matt Dillon and ah he's not he's not happy with her no one's happy with mom mom's a rich insensitive slut Who's she sleeping with, by the way? The pool boy?
00:23:08
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oh deckhand. He's a deckhand. He's a deckhand. I think so. Because ah and there was a great line where Denise Richards is like, which deckhand is he? And her response was, whichever one I want.
00:23:24
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Damn. Damn. i love this deckhand. He does all of Mama's dark bidding. Oh.
00:23:34
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No questions asked. he's gonna like He has a great job. He will go to court with you when your daughter has a rape case. A rape case. He'll beat the shit out of a guy.
00:23:48
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He'll beat the shit out of a guy. He'll threaten a guy. Whatever you need him to will him off the road into the swamp. and In the slowest car accident you've ever seen. I literally, when it happened, I was like, he could have avoided that, um I think.
00:24:02
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I'm pretty sure. I'm pretty sure he could have gotten out of that one. also he risked gator eating to go in and punch him when that was not necessary he was willing to risk being eaten by a gator just to go give matt dylan a black eye yeah it's dedication when you're a deckhand getting a nice little piece of ass like that gators are the least of your worries um rapist punches yeah yeah okay i know about deckhands
00:24:31
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So she tells her mom, Denise Richards tells her mom that guidance counselor raped her. And mom's freaking out. She does not handle this particularly well.
00:24:44
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My daughter does not get graped in Blue Bay. Not in Blue bay Not in Blue Bay. um she runs that time. My favorite part of mom's character was that while the police are there taking her daughter's statement about her daughter getting raped, her mom says, like, how dare he do this to me?
00:25:06
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you? To you, madam? Well, they had a relationship, and and to her, it's him getting back at her for the sassy balcony comments earlier.
00:25:19
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That's a good reason. Yeah. We get introduced to the cops, which I think an odd thing about this movie is we are in Southern Florida. We're somewhere in Florida.
00:25:30
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And there's so many Chicago accents. throughout one Like an odd amount. No, this is where Chicagoans retire to is Florida.
00:25:41
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They love they're all working. Well, kevin ba get away fer holes in that
00:25:50
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they do have a lot of accents and i will say that the initial scene in the police station where denise richards is describing what happened to her which spoiler never happened to her but when she's just it's a pretty graphic yes picture in a rape harrowing It is feel bad.
00:26:13
Speaker
That's why five seconds later in this movie we're at Bill Murray's office. so like the tone this movie is just so wild where... it It is not like I would say it's walking the line, but it is not. It's tripping back and forth between near slapstick comedy and parody. Like this feels like noir parody most of the time.
00:26:38
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And then just like a serious sex crime drama. Yes. It's weird that this movie was pretty well received because it's very bizarre.
00:26:51
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It's dancing around a lot of pitfalls. I thought it was going to be better. I thought it was going to be better. thought it was going to be better. Yeah, I didn't. That being said, I loved it.
00:27:03
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But I agree. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. No, I'll watch it again. Like, it's not. i Although when we put took the DVD out, Joe was like, so we could just throw this in the trash, right? Like, this is never going to get watched again. i was like, first of all, how dare you per put that right back in there? it's going to be buried with me. It's not good.
00:27:20
Speaker
And everyone is. yeah um it's good and and every and acting so strangely because they just do everyone acting so strangely constantly led me to believe that this movie was supposed to be like a satire an attempt at comedy but none of that comes through in an incoherent way no and it's the it turns out they're all acting weird because they're of all the many twists because I was like oh Kevin Bacon this is not his best work and then I realized he's in on the grift it's part of like he's part of the twist and I'm like
00:27:57
Speaker
okay Oh, okay. Okay. Now it's starting to come together why he was acting so weird. That was one of the things I read too. I believe it was Kevin Bacon that said the hardest thing about filming this movie for most of the actors was trying to visualize what their motivation is in any given scene.
00:28:20
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Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, that came across, guys. Yeah. Because I also didn't know what anyone's motivation was. Even when I did know the twist, I didn't know what anyone's motivation was. Because there were multiple times where, like, no other character is around, but they're still behaving as though they're not in it. They're doing it for my sake only. They're doing it the viewer who were not supposed to be here.
00:28:46
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You haven't broken the fourth wall, but I think about movies like Heather's Drop Dead Gorgeous, To Die For, some of my top, my favorite favorites that are kind of this same genre, but it's like they just did not do it well. No.
00:29:03
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Well, those, the the difference is those all held a tone. Those knew what they were. And this movie, any given scene, like I'll give you an example of when this movie, there's just one scene where the dialogue goes so far out into just noir parody that I'm like, maybe this is just a comedy.
00:29:25
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And that is after Matt Dillon is accused of rape, he goes to the country club or the yacht club or wherever. And Robert Wagner, who is the lawyer of... No one knows who Robert w Wagner was in this movie. He's lawyer. He's a lawyer-ish.
00:29:43
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He's lawyer-ish for the rich people. Yeah. But... ah kit do you have any of his dialogue written down? Because there's a lot of like, you'll never work in this town again. Yeah, he was like, over for you. You'll never eat at this yacht club.
00:30:01
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He was in a different movie than everybody else in this movie. Like he just immediately was hit in like a movie from the fifties. And it's just, I did write down um at one point I jotted down. This movie has everything.
00:30:15
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One alligator. They show 30 times twists. The man who killed Natalie Wood. That's what I wanted to talk about. Another twist.
00:30:26
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Another twist. Another twist. but What's funny is our all of our mutual friend Kelly, when we were out in LA once, she texted me and said, hey, I have to drive Robert Wagner around for the day. And I said, what the fuck? Kelly, don't.
00:30:42
Speaker
Kelly, no. I remember she's like, why And I was like, because he fucking, I guess at this point, do we even say allegedly? don't think that's an answer. He's like 90. I thought he did. He died finally.
00:30:55
Speaker
I think he died like two years ago. Hold on. Let me check. Let me check. I have the IMDb open so I could tell you thought He was like 95. He's alive. OK, so allegedly. Allegedly. he can lay On their boat.
00:31:11
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And Christopher Walken was there. Christopher Walken was there. and a deckhand.
00:31:18
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turn which we know what deckhands are all about and they'll do anything murder tomorrow without the day after this gets released i'm just walking down the streets of nashville and i get sucker punched by a handsome latin man mr wagner sends his regards mr wagner just has deckhands at hand all the time ready to do his dark bidding ah But when I was Googling about Robert Wagner, it's funny because there's still i was going to ask, Ashley, because you you do keep it weird and you cover a lot of true crimes.
00:31:55
Speaker
It seems like up until even last year, we're getting new information on this case. Where I was looking and they're saying like a book just came out or something last year where they're like, we were pretty sure Robert Wagner didn't. like, I'm pretty sure we thought that for like 40 years. no one has. It's just, it's like Roswell at this point where it's like, no, anyone who's.
00:32:16
Speaker
like read up on it knows that it wasn't a weather balloon that crashed you know what I mean like anyone who's done any amount of reading and just hasn't like caught information as it floated past them in the atmosphere knows that it wasn't a weather balloon and knows that Robert Wagner ah killed Natalie Wood yeah and maybe JonBenet Ramsey and probably JonBenet Ramsey we don't know
00:32:46
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too We don't We don't. His deckhand did, though, no joke. Like, the other guy on the boat that wasn't Robert Wagner and Christopher Walken was, like, this young deckhand who ended up, like, living with Robert Wagner for ah while after they got back from this excursion.
00:33:05
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and um... Yeah. Can you imagine... Good amount of money. a crime happening and you have to spend all your days with of all people Robert Wagner like who is who is the now time equivalent of Robert Wagner that like eyewitness a crime and now like well at that point so he was in his like what forty s I mean, wouldn't have been too... It would have been like Armie Hammer.
00:33:37
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What you had to hang out Armie Hammer for like four months in Armie Hammer's house while he hides from... I don't want to. Sorry.
00:33:47
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You have to. You witnessed crime.
00:33:52
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Nothing can do about it. and you gotta live at the Lone Ranger's house.
00:33:59
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It's either him or Johnny Depp. All
00:34:04
Speaker
all right, let's hop back into Blue Bay. right soba please So speaking of the scene you were talking about, even so at this point, we don't know anything except that we're pretty sure Matt Dillon didn't do it because we kept all we've seen so far is him being like a model guidance counselor who would never do anything wrong as we've followed him.
00:34:25
Speaker
But even at this point, I was like, I don't feel that bad for him. And then you know why? It's because the stuff he seemed most upset about was that he wasn't allowed to have lunch at the yacht club and instead had to go back to the bait shop slash dive bar with the rest of, you know, the plebs. Plums.
00:34:48
Speaker
Yeah. And I was like,
00:34:51
Speaker
think you are that you're too good for the bait shop slash dive bar? Well, he also lost his job. That didn't seem to bother him nearly as much as him not being able to have lunch at the yacht club. Boat and guidance. but Yeah, boat and guidance jobs.
00:35:11
Speaker
Um, yeah. Well, and also, like, I didn't feel bad for him because why would he even put himself in that situation? Like, the actual rape took place because he told two high school girls to come to his house to wash his Jeep.
00:35:30
Speaker
For charity. already for charity Which is already like, could go to a public place, meet him at the church down the street, meet him at the gas station. Right! if we chi safe show If it's a charity car wash, just drive your car to where they're doing it, like in the school parking lot.
Character Dynamics and Plot Development
00:35:47
Speaker
You don't have to do this weird at your house thing. have these two girls come to his house, and then Denise Richards staged it so that her they're both soaking wet, wearing all white. And then Denise Richards makes her friend leave without her, so she's stranded without a ride. And this is before the time of Uber, obviously.
00:36:06
Speaker
and cell phones. And there are no cabs here in Florida. That's not a thing. Not one. um So, yeah, he kind of put himself in a real precarious situation to begin with. So I was like, m I don't know. I don't really feel that bad for you.
00:36:21
Speaker
Turns out I didn't have to feel bad because he didn't do anything. and he was in on it the whole time quick quick side note about denise richards in high school and everything we did or i can't you you sat out that episode but i did an episode with our friend megan sampson of megan the wheelers uh about the the movie don't look down or don't look now and during that megan has a pretty ah striking resemblance to denise richards really
00:36:56
Speaker
she has a very similar face to Denise Richards and very similar hair, I would say as well. And i mean, she's done Halloween costumes where she did like the drop dead gorgeous, you know, Mount Rushmore thing on her head and everything.
00:37:10
Speaker
But she said when this movie came out in, I don't remember, it wouldn't have been when it came out. But um when she was in high school, one of her teachers said,
00:37:22
Speaker
Have you seen and the movie Wild Things? No! No! You really look like the girl from Wild Things. Don't say that! And that's not thing you get to say to a high school kid.
00:37:33
Speaker
No! That's not a thing you should say to anyone. This is softcore pornography. Yes! That being said, she did look like her and the actress was 27. Okay.
00:37:49
Speaker
um yeah Can we yeah talk about Denise for a minute? Of course we can i I am so in love with her. he' so pretty. has been such a big part of my life for my whole life because Drop Dead Gorgeous is one of my favorite all-time favorite movies and so is Starship Troopers.
00:38:07
Speaker
Oh god, yes. She's also a lead in. Amazing. And now I love Real Housewives. So Denise Richards is a is it very um VIP for me.
00:38:19
Speaker
A very important person. This would have been the first erotic thriller i ever saw.
00:38:27
Speaker
And you we're friends, right? yeah This is a safe space. We're all we're all friends here. I have probably masturbated this movie more than any other imagery or material.
00:38:43
Speaker
Just based on the time. if i If you go back to when that DVD lived in my room... Which also, Ashley, same thing, double-sided disc, could watch it full screen, wide screen.
00:38:55
Speaker
If I ever go missing, that's where you can swab for some teeth. The disc is awful. Don't touch it. ah Don't touch it. Burn the disc when you're done.
00:39:07
Speaker
Garrett, usually they take brush out of like hair out of a hairbrush, but no, we got better options. and Swabbing this DVD. There's plenty. There's plenty. When she showed up on screen, I'm saying like prior to any nudity, anything.
00:39:25
Speaker
I know I joked in the malicious episode that seeing Molly Ringwald like felt like an old high school crush and it made me uncomfortable. When she showed up in this, I felt like I went back to a high school reunion and the pretty girl I had a crush on looked the exact same and the feelings never left.
00:39:48
Speaker
She is the best. I would say she has one of the top five noses of all time. Really? I love her eyes. That's always what drives me to her. But like, yes. Okay. Can we talk about her mouth? Okay. Also that perfect pouty mouth.
00:40:05
Speaker
Can we talk about her OnlyFans? That her son, that her teenage son helps film. Is she the one that has a teenage son helps her shoot her OnlyFans?
00:40:16
Speaker
Well, her daughter was the one that had the OnlyFans and caught a lot of criticism. So she like joined OnlyFans and did it in solidarity with daughter. that's what I'm thinking of. There is an actress whose like teenage son takes like photos for her OnlyFans.
00:40:34
Speaker
And that is... I'm not okay with that. rough stuff but back to denise she's perfect she's a perfect person is she the best actress i've ever seen maybe don't know when she was up there maybe i love that yeah it seemed like there was going to be a butt or something but no i think maybe is the right way because you named two other banger movies there were so many you need three parts to There were so many parts in this movie that she did so well.
00:41:07
Speaker
um When she was up there shaking and crying on the stand, 100%. She pulled it out. She pulled it out. um And then when... oh i hold on. i wrote down the exact line that she said, because it was really good.
00:41:23
Speaker
um it was when she thinks they've just killed Nev Campbell, right? And... ah She's like semi traumatized sitting in the range Rover with Matt. oh yeah and And he says, are you okay?
00:41:41
Speaker
And she responds, my mom would kill me if she knew I took the Rover. And it's- here's the thing, it's like, it's a great line, and it could have been delivered so many different ways.
00:41:55
Speaker
The way she chose to do it was perfect. Like, it sold it completely. Like, she- like, she is still a child. She does not understand fully what has just happened.
00:42:10
Speaker
She is traumatized to all hell. None of this was her idea. And she is like relying on this older man to to tell her what to do. And she is lost in this moment. Like it sold it a hundred percent.
00:42:25
Speaker
I thought and it would have been a fucking hilarious line had the tone of this film been. not been The rocky road that it was. Yes, that's the thing. like driving a fan boat.
00:42:41
Speaker
It could have been a hilarious line. It's so hard to tell. Like, I don't know how anyone read this script and knew what they were supposed to be doing. Yeah. Because it's all over the place.
00:42:53
Speaker
And I think we all agree that no one did. And I think you saying that line, you know, like ends up coming out in a brilliant way yeah is full accident because the director doesn't care how you deliver any line at any time. Yeah.
00:43:10
Speaker
Yeah. I don't think they had a lot of help. The performers. Yeah. And I think some of them needed help. the The rape allegation has been made and then ah someone else comes forward and it's as her girl another girl, Susie trash who is Nev from the wrong side of the tracks.
00:43:30
Speaker
She's the like semi-goth looking girl whose dad wrestles alligators for the joy of Is that her dad?
00:43:43
Speaker
Is that her dad? Uncle? Cousin? No, it's just a guy. It's a guy that wears found teeth.
00:43:53
Speaker
What bit that he is wearing false teeth that he found somewhere. Yes. Yeah. yeah Love that. And ah she comes forward saying the same thing happened to her last year.
00:44:06
Speaker
And um she similarities in the cases are wild, wild. And so they're like, OK, now we it's no longer just a he said she said thing.
00:44:18
Speaker
It's happened to someone else. There's no way she would have known the exact like wording of the creepy thing he said. Totally makes sense. He's going to to prison.
00:44:28
Speaker
Except, here it is. Big day in court. He's got a banger lawyer. Yeah, Bill Murray's up there acting up a storm. Looking like, ladies and gentlemen of the jury, am I supposed to truly believe the girl from the Rob Zombie part of town?
00:44:51
Speaker
and honestly like if this man were cross-examining me on the witness stand i would not stand for it like he's such a dick up there to a girl that as far as everyone knows has been raped by her guidance counselor and he's like gets her though gets her good no he doesn't because it was all planned from the beginning bill murray's not as good of a lawyer as he thinks he is Can we say for a second, the only person in this movie who from the beginning doesn't believe the victims is Lady Cop.
00:45:25
Speaker
Lady Cop is immediately like, are we sure she's telling the truth? And I was like, damn, Lady Cop. Lady Cop, She just told a really, really fucked up story. And Kevin Bacon's like, we believe victims in my neighborhood. We're going to believe them first.
00:45:42
Speaker
Lady Cop, meanwhile, she's got a good lie detector inside insider She just knows. um And so yes, it comes out, you know, Bill Murray pertz points out some inconsistencies in her story and really nails her to the wall and she's like, this wasn't my idea.
00:45:58
Speaker
Nobody raped anybody. Matt Dillon didn't do it. ah Denise Richards made the whole thing up and got me in on it because we both are mad at him.
Courtroom Drama and Aftermath
00:46:10
Speaker
her because she's in love with him and mad that he fucked her mom me because he didn't help me out of prison one time well juvenile detention it wasn't like you get the idea and then denise richards is like you skank bitch and all hell breaks out in the courtroom it's great we all loved it gavels aplenty um and then you know matt dylan's like well i guess that's fine and bill murray's like dude you're gonna get rich now we're gonna sue everybody it's gonna be great these people are rich they ruined your life they sullied your reputation straight up says these people ruined your life bro which was the funniest fucking line let's get that 20 he does say bro he's
00:46:58
Speaker
As he gives the limo with Robert Wagner in it, the finger as he drives. yeah Yes! He's so happy. love, though, that we when we see Bill Murray's car, it's just like some piece of shit, like Pento or something.
00:47:13
Speaker
and the next time we see Bill Murray's car, he's driving some baller red car. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yep, yep, yep. He's got a major car upgrade. Matt Dillon gets a check for $8 million. dollars and Of Denise Richards' trust fund. Yes, which she was like, how dare you? That's my money. How could you do this? and then My mom broke my trust fund to pay off your stupid settlement. I hate you.
00:47:39
Speaker
no We get it. We get it. we get it Get me to the scene. We're here to talk about the scene. so He's in the motel. And who's there?
00:47:52
Speaker
Both the girls. it will supply Both of them. They were all in on it. This was an elaborate scheme to ah get the trust fund that Denise Richards wouldn't have had access to. other words, they're split it three ways. They're all And wouldn't the trust money until her mother died?
00:48:10
Speaker
yeah It was like she was going to be in her 50s before she saw that money. Mm-mm-mm. That's not... How dresses usually work. Yeah, usually it's like 18, 21.
00:48:22
Speaker
30 something. Or sometimes it's like finished college or something like that. But no, her mom wanted to, you know, hang on to it as long as possible.
00:48:34
Speaker
She needs her kid to be nice to her for as long as she can because she is not a great person. She's got a great mom. She is one of the only other people we see nude in the film.
00:48:45
Speaker
and This is true. I think we skipped past the sex that we get to see her. I did mention the deckhand sex scene. yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Very steamy. She's very upset. She's about to come and a phone rings and it's her dumb idiot daughter.
00:49:01
Speaker
what's it's so funny that her dumb idiot daughter and her are 13 years apart in Yeah.
00:49:10
Speaker
How is Denise Richards? How does she look so young? i just assumed she was probably eight. 27 is wild. That is wild. 27 is wild. I mean, she has the body of a 27 year old. That is not the body of an 18 year old. But she's the sweet face. She's fucking woman. Yes. She's a grown ass woman.
00:49:28
Speaker
yeah. She looks like, I mean, Denise Richards looks like if you ah cast a high schooler in a porn. Yeah, she she's so youthful looking for so long. Maybe mean it was a long time before that woman aged.
00:49:44
Speaker
But she's got the tits of a 35 year old with two kids. She's got mean didn't have she did have a boob job. So like that might have fingers. She had have second one for this movie.
00:49:56
Speaker
I guess she had like a rush job when she was 19 is what the what I read. and that these were the updated fixed ones for this film. They were too big before, I believe. This was a... We we mean we were more modest. Okay, okay.
00:50:13
Speaker
Starting to get that back pain when you're 27. you know But as far as the first like erotic scene we get to talk about... Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:50:24
Speaker
but Okay, Kit, how did you feel on this one? How does this one stand with everything else? Are you fucking kidding me? These are the two hottest actresses of the 90s, basically. And Matt Dillon!
00:50:37
Speaker
Okay, it's a little annoying Matt Dillon's there, but even he is like, you should kiss each other. Even he knows he shouldn't be a part of he's up this. He's not the star. They're pouring champagne on boobies.
00:50:51
Speaker
Good Lord. Matt Dillon was 13 year old acne covered Garrett watching this on a tube TV in his bedroom. You two kiss each other. Now you do it. 100% hundred fucking through set It's so good. What where is so funny about this sex scene, I had sex in high school. Ooh, cool.
00:51:19
Speaker
yeah Oh, yeah. Oh, brag much. Some of us didn't. that wasn't me. I did, too. kid. had sex in high school. Just me, eh?
00:51:30
Speaker
Yeah, thank Let me tell you how unerotic it was every single time there was not one moment there's not one sexual experience prior to like me being like 27 that I can look back on and say was sensual or erotic in any way so the fact that these are supposedly high school senior girls but they've got an older man there to help that's true here's the thing I never had sex with a guidance counselor
00:52:05
Speaker
That's what you were missing. and I had sex with a boat repairman.
00:52:16
Speaker
this Because we saw this movie so young, i really, because I agree with everything you said. High school sex is awkward, embarrassing.
00:52:29
Speaker
Not that it can't be fun, but it was not this. Nope. nope yeah But because we saw this so early, this is what it was supposed to be like up here.
00:52:41
Speaker
And I'll be honest, I don't know if I've ever made it to this point. never done that. This is like, I have like the only times that I can even get close is if somebody was making sounds that I knew were too performative. Yeah. I'm just like, I know that's not how this goes. I've been here before. I know I'm not that. I know I'm not doing that.
00:53:03
Speaker
um i did not make that happen for you. I think this movie ruined us at a young age and made, it just gave us an unachievable goal.
00:53:16
Speaker
I mean, there's no way. It's silent over here, though. like It has been. Well, okay. Okay. okay You think about other, like Riverdale has a bunch of like really sexy sex scenes for high schoolers.
00:53:31
Speaker
And you think about like all the young guys who have access to porn, all the like high school age kids who in middle school, oh my God, that have access to porn on their phones. It's giving them this unrealistic.
00:53:43
Speaker
I think we were lucky because we had one thing. Yeah. And honestly, in many ways, I
Portrayal of Sex and Erotic Scenes
00:53:50
Speaker
would prefer this to porn because most like if if you're watching something in your formative years specifically, because like this at least makes it look like it's really fun For everyone involved. For everyone involved. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's true. The girls are having more fun than Matt Dillon is. Matt Dillon's kind of annoyed that they're there.
00:54:11
Speaker
A hundred percent. And yeah, because Matt Dillon loves no one in this movie. He only loves his boats and he's waiting for them to get out of there so he can go make love to his boat.
00:54:22
Speaker
He just wants to be on his boat. Specifically sailboats because he sees a nice yacht go by and a kid compliments. He's like, don't compliment that stink pot. That's what a real man drives.
00:54:34
Speaker
It's got sail. You're not allowed to say drives. He's very specific. you don't drive a boat. here You say it sail it. I made notes that if any of the three of us knew boat terminology that it was going to be Kit.
00:54:50
Speaker
I just took that from the movie. I don't know it. but It's like everything I know about boats I know from Wild Things. Thank you. Yes.
00:55:00
Speaker
and This is why every script I've written sucks. This is why I don't know how to drive a boat and I have sex bad.
00:55:09
Speaker
Didn't see wild things enough. Didn't see wild things enough. But yeah, mean, this sex scene is crazy because Matt Dillon's like, what are you doing here? We can't be seen together. But since you're already here, pop that champagne. Nev, pour that champagne on her titties, please.
00:55:29
Speaker
Thank you. Yep, yep, yep, yep. It's a very drawn out sensual scene. And I think that this scene actually will answer a question of where did every single pair of my underwear go after sex?
00:55:43
Speaker
And that is because men saw this movie at the age of 13 and thought you were supposed to neatly fold them up and put them in your khaki pocket. a ah That explains a few things.
00:55:57
Speaker
Why did they go in there? to use my
00:56:01
Speaker
With his line, guidance counselors get to find out all sorts of interesting things as he's looking up her skirt and pulling down her panties.
00:56:11
Speaker
like hindshot with them oh Like, here's the thing, is like I couldn't help the fact that I felt bad also watching this because he is their guidance counselor and that's messed up.
00:56:23
Speaker
Right, like I the i had to put my i had to to separate. I had to compartmentalize that like, yeah it's okay for me to find this sexy because all of these are consenting adults doing this for my entertainment.
00:56:38
Speaker
But the characters, that's messed up. Yeah. Love the art, hate the artist. it yes I just watched the Crow remake.
00:56:52
Speaker
And the whole movie sucks. It's like really, really wildly bad. Like worse than you can imagine. Darn. But there's one really, really cool fight scene that if you only saw that scene, you wouldn't believe me that the rest of the movie sucks. Yeah, you'd be like, how could this possibly be so bad?
00:57:13
Speaker
the most competent thing this director did this whole movie was this sex scene and wild things. If you watched only this, you're like, wow, this guy knows what he's doing. And then do you see the rest of the movie. And you'd be like, yeah maybe not, maybe not.
00:57:28
Speaker
you, if I hadn't, I mean, he'd really didn't do much more than this. um So, you know, like he didn't, he didn't go on to have like an illustrious career.
00:57:43
Speaker
But if you if i if I hadn't Googled him, you you could definitely lie to me and say that this was, you know, a pornography director whose attempt at a feature film.
00:57:56
Speaker
but Just because like, boy, nothing makes sense. None of the behaviors of anyone makes sense. All the twists. hold The holes. The plots. Yeah. Especially... i think it's okay to ask this question now because I still don't quite understand it.
00:58:15
Speaker
The plot has... gone through they've gone through the plot. they They got the money. The check has been written. He's deposited it into his bank as they are having this sexual experience.
00:58:28
Speaker
Yes. Why do they have to wait to skip town? like He keeps telling them... That they have to wait and play it cool and not be seen together.
00:58:40
Speaker
i think it's because it would look suspicious if they all three skipped town at the same time. So they need to all graduate. Like the two girls need to graduate or finish school and then find like plausible reasons to skip town and then meet him at the appointed place where they can all live out their island dreams together.
00:59:02
Speaker
Okay, see, like, one line could have cleared that up. Oh, 100%. That's me writing that in for the movie. I did movie for, like, homework for are they just leaving? I don't understand why they aren't just going. That's the other thing. It's like, I don't understand Matt Dillon because Matt Dillon should have been on a plane.
00:59:18
Speaker
to a country with no extradition as soon as that money hit his bank account. He doesn't need to keep playing these girls. Like, he doesn't need to keep doing anything.
00:59:28
Speaker
That's true. Because it doesn't matter what they say about you. Like, oh, wait, he he was part of a scam. We were all in on it. Like, oh, well, he's somewhere you can't get him back from. Who cares? yeah But that's because his partners aren't these girls.
00:59:45
Speaker
His partner is Kevin Bacon. Right. that That's the thing. is The plot is too fucking convoluted. And he's a grown man with a big old grown man penis.
00:59:56
Speaker
And if you just run away out of the country, he's going to find you. Yes. guess. And Nev is like manipulating him the whole time. So presumably she's feeding him some nonsense.
01:00:09
Speaker
That's true. Nev does seem to be... She's the masterminds. I know that she's the mastermind and like, you know, you find out in the end that she has manipulated all of these people.
01:00:25
Speaker
But again, like when Matt Dillon had the money in his, but like, I still don't understand why he didn't just leave and not tell any of them. Because the plot needed him to stay. Well, yeah, duh.
01:00:37
Speaker
Duh. But like, give me a reason. I don't understand why he's not running away. yeah got nothing. yeah So Kevin Bacon finds out that they're, ah you know, that this is a problem. And he's looking at a bank website that looks like it was designed by me in 1998, as in me, child on Angel Fire. GeoCities!
01:00:58
Speaker
With my self-taught HTML, 100%. It would look great next to my Sailor Moon website. yeah it would be identical. um And he's like, see they're playing us. You know, this is all a big conspiracy.
01:01:13
Speaker
And everyone's like, shut up, Kevin. We don't care. And we don't believe you. And we're already in big trouble for having put this man on trial for a crime he didn't commit. Are you telling me we want to accuse him of another crime he may not have committed?
01:01:26
Speaker
That's stupid. We'll be hung out to dry for this. When is Kevin Bacon brought into the scheme? It is unclear.
01:01:37
Speaker
So in the, yeah. Cause timeline wise, basically let's, let's do a quick wrap up of just the end of this movie. Cause like base it just so the audience kind of knows where we're at with this.
01:01:54
Speaker
So if you haven't seen this, let's just hit the, let's hit every twist real quick. Okay. So just so we can find out that Kevin Bacon and Neve Campbell have a ah history together.
01:02:07
Speaker
In that, um, like they, like he killed a friend of hers in the line of duty, he claimed.
01:02:18
Speaker
Davey. Right. Then you find out that, uh, then they kill, kill, then, uh, Denise Richards and, um, Matt Dillon. Matt Dillon kill Neve Campbell.
01:02:33
Speaker
And hide the body because it seems like she's getting a little too, you know, freaked out and might, you know, tell somebody or back out. Spill the beans. Spill the beans. she's Then Kevin Bacon is like, so my god, they're gonna kill- He's going to kill Denise Richards next.
01:02:53
Speaker
And then he ends up, Kevin Bacon ends up killing Denise Richards. um Well, because she's good at guns. We've known she's good at guns since the beginning. She does some angry skeet shooting. and yeah which says but Best scene of the movie. Let's see if we're going to just keep saying that.
01:03:11
Speaker
yeah Yeah, my favorite part of the movie. So yeah, ah Kevin Bacon goes in to to warn her and she apparently, according to him, shoots him in the arm. He shoots back. She's dead.
01:03:27
Speaker
So, haha, joke's on everybody. All the girls are dead. Dillon's alive with his money. Then we see Matt Dillon out on the beach and who's in his ah you know fancy ah kabana But Kevin Bacon, who has been in on it the whole time. simple partner calls him partner. Turns out Kevin Bacon's job was to like steer the cops in the wrong direction by steering them in the right direction, but then acting crazy. it doesn't really matter. It doesn't make any sense.
01:03:59
Speaker
Kevin Bacon was in on it. So he is invited by Matt Dillon to go out on a boat together, which you should never do with someone you are in world of partnership with. Never. Someone owes you money?
01:04:11
Speaker
Don't go on that boat. Are you insane? I'm not going to lie. In this scene, Kevin Bacon and Matt Dillon, if it were Kit and I, I'm Kevin Bacon and Kit is yelling at me about boat terms that she read in a book. do.
01:04:25
Speaker
I've got my... ah you know sailing for dummies book. You've got your book on knots. which Which side is starboard, Kit? It's right side. The right side starboard. Goddamn right you fucking knew that. I knew you knew that shit.
01:04:44
Speaker
The front side. Of the boat is the... The bow. The bow. The back is the... za dern Stern. Stern.
01:04:57
Speaker
Left is port. Boom. Guys, I've been on a boat like twice in my life. I have been on a boat. Like maybe three. But this one time you read a boat book and it's just... I just... That's kid shit.
01:05:11
Speaker
I was just like... I am... No, John's kind of the boat person, actually, and he insists on using fancy terms sometimes. Anyway, it doesn't matter. Point is, they're out on the boat. Matt Dillon tries to kill Kevin Bacon. Kevin Bacon doesn't ah go down so easily, and then who shows up but Nev Campbell, who is not dead?
01:05:33
Speaker
Turns out... Campbell in a blonde wig. In a blonde wig. She's not dead. They faked her death because, actually, she was in on it the whole time, and Then they do kill Kevin Bacon. She harpoons him off the boat into the water.
01:05:49
Speaker
Great. Love it. She says, this is for Davey. Yes. And then and Matt Dillon are toasting. And he's like, ha ha ha. I'm drinking your glass instead because I'm afraid you you'd poison me. And she's like, you stupid. I don't even know how to hello meet you drive a boat. And he's like, it's not called driving a boat, idiot. And then he drinks.
01:06:13
Speaker
It is poisoned. It is poisoned. how yeah how How many twists are we at? Like count. oh Like if we could just say the beats of this.
01:06:25
Speaker
The first twist is the threesome. First twist is the is the is that they were is the it was a plot and nobody got raped. Second twist is that It was actually a scam for money.
01:06:41
Speaker
Yes, is that it was a scam for money. Third twist is... ah oh my God. Killing Neve Campbell. Killing Neve Campbell, and that was the plan.
01:06:53
Speaker
Fourth twist is killing Denise Richards, and Kevin Bacon was in on it. Well, but isn't Kevin Bacon's in on it? It's a separate twist, right? Yeah. Yeah, yeah, you know what? That's five twists. Kevin Bacon's in on it.
01:07:07
Speaker
Twist number six is Neve Campbell's alive. Twist number seven is she kills ah Matt Dillon and Kevin Bacon. Folks, folks, this is seven.
01:07:21
Speaker
Twist number eight is she does know how to drive a boat, can I just say? She did know how to drive a boat. Great choice. So, okay, we're going to call this eight twists.
01:07:33
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And then it says the end, but we get our first Marvel mid credit sequence of the shit. We couldn't fit into two hours.
01:07:43
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Yes. Because turns out twist number nine is she has like a 200 IQ and is a Machiavellian genius. Yeah.
01:07:53
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Twist number 10 is that i she was the one who set up for Matt Dillon to bring in Kevin Bacon, right? Is that twist 10? Well, I think- oh shit, there was another twist we missed where it was revealed during when um when Matt Dillon is like, uh, let me show you the files I have on these girls.
01:08:22
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It turns out that Denise Richards once threatened to kill Nev Campbell, who she was dating at the time. So their previous relationship, that's an 11th twist right there that they had a past.
01:08:38
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Um, Oh my god. think we can qualify the Neve Campbell being in on it, all the cutscenes as one twist, aside from Bill Murray. bill Murray being in on it. Yeah, because he shows up at the very end.
01:08:52
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He shows up at the very end, delivers her her money, you know, in cash. It turns out he's helped her get set up with all her bank accounts and whatnot. So... That's twist 13. Twist 14 was Kevin Bacon lied about how Denise Richards got killed because in fact he shot himself in the arm and then shot her. So that's a 14th twist.
01:09:19
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I will say in this world that we have built,
01:09:26
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forensics do not exist. What are you talking about? They found out that that tooth was Neve Campbell's because twist number 15, she pulled out her own fucking tooth to leave evidence behind. That she was just dead. she was dead.
01:09:45
Speaker
No, but like... I love... okay Go ahead. No, i was going to say the Kevin Bacon killing Denise Richards thing, because then it cuts to him. He's been shot. he in the you know He's in trouble. he loses his job because he went against direct orders.
01:10:00
Speaker
And shot a teenage girl. He also shot a teenage girl to death. His second teenage... a human being shooting death shooting fatal shooting of his career he loses his job but like nothing else because it's like clearly it was an you know self-defense she shot you but like she not only scratched his face with her fingernails like hello just look under her fingernails for the blood But she also bit his hand.
01:10:30
Speaker
yeah So he's going to have a bite mark on his hand, scratch marks on his face. None of the trajectory of those bullets would have matched up with the story that he told. Where are the forensics? Powder burns wouldn't nothing he would he would have shot He shot himself at close range. There's no way there'd be like powder burns that wouldn't have made sense if she had shot him from across the room.
01:10:53
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Also, no way he's getting away with this was just police procedure. He didn't announce himself as the police. He just walked in and then surprised a teenage girl.
01:11:05
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Ladies. An armed teenage girl. There is no need for forensics. When the police officer wears those short sleeve shirts with his, you know, all tucked in, looking that fucking Mormon.
01:11:19
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Would that Mormon guy lie? Would this Mormon man tell a lie? would not. Would this Mormon man who's already shot and killed one teenager lie about killing another teenager?
01:11:34
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he has very modest sex through a sheet hole. there That is not a man who tells a lie. Because, wait a minute, twist number 16... Those were the secret underpants in Matt Dillon's pocket.
01:11:46
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Twist number 16, by the way, is what we're up to, is that nev campbell getting sent to juvie was kevin bacon doing that to her specifically to shut her up and discredit her so that no one would believe her the murder of her friend yes via him yes so that's just 16 that we're at here was the Was it a twist that um one-piece swimsuit that Denise Richards is wearing in the pool when Kevin Bacon comes to talk to her?
01:12:24
Speaker
Is completely see-through? Yeah, that was ah she's at school. That's an iconic twist. swimsuit I think if we were to make a list of like top 10 swimsuits in movie history movie and television history it would be like Pam Anderson Baywatch Denise Richards wild things like it is up there and it is sheer you can see those nipples right through it she's being so sexy she gets out of the pool and you're like why is she at a public pool she has a pool and then you find out this is the school's pool and not only is this the school
01:13:01
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pool but also a a cop out of uniform can just walk up to a student at this high school and have a full on conversation with her where they shout profanities at each other yep yep yep First amendment.
01:13:24
Speaker
Yeah. Now that I see this swimsuit and have heard the title school pool, that should have been a USA up all night teen sex comedy. And i am going to finish that this weekend and get it sent out.
01:13:37
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Nev Campbell, not Nev Campbell, but Denise Richards will be the principal in that film. Yeah. Yeah, absolutely. okay so when I started this movie, like I am aware of the general rule of thumb for movies that by the fifth page, like around there, you should have someone state your theme of the movie, right? like That's a thing. John and I once, after he told me about this, went and went watched a bunch of movies right around the five minute mark to see how many we could find, and it's so too many.
01:14:08
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Wow. Like one of my favorites that we found was gladiator right around the five minute mark. It's when, um you know, he's out on the lines for war and the Senator next to him says like, people should know when they're conquered. And he says, would you Quintus?
01:14:26
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Would I? It's like, dang. All right. So right around, i was seven minutes in ah Kevin Bacon is says, what is a sex crime?
01:14:37
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in this senior seminar. And I was like, okay, great. We found our theme. What is a sex crime? No, that is not the theme of this movie. I was wrong. The theme of this movie is that guy putting his hand in an alligator's mouth and then pulling it back out again over and over and over.
01:14:55
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That is the theme of this movie is like people just messing with dangerous shit and then getting their hand bitten off. Yeah. You mean doing wild things?
01:15:07
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Hmm. Because I did. I thought this was going to be like a he said, she said what counts as sex, what's inappropriate, what's not inappropriate. That is not what this is about.
01:15:18
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Incorrect. At all. We ditched that theme at minute 25. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, you're right, though. Like, the that that is actually a good ah reference image for this movie. The guy sticking his hand in the alligator's mouth and, like, kissing the alligator and, like, putting the alligator's chin under his chin. and like You're playing fire.
01:15:42
Speaker
And guess what? Y'all got burned. ah Except for my girl, Nev Campbell. Twist number 17 is that Nev Campbell talked Matt Dillon into this in the first place by blackmailing him because she had pictures of him having really kinky sex with Denise Richards already.
01:16:00
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He had a dog collar on. Dog collar and everything, y'all. 17. High school student. Yeah, I don't know any high schoolers that are like, that's advanced level. That's college level sex, y'all. Yeah, I do. i feel like you guys need to add a segment to the show for letterboxed reviews because my favorite, I i wrote down four that I loved, but one of them, Liam gave the movie three stars, and but he did have one criticism, which was needed more twists.
01:16:32
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Oh my God! Not enough twist. Not enough twist. Like, i know we've had some of these movies that we've joked about in the opening that is just twist, twist, twist.
01:16:46
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This is so many twists that it this is this comes to another moment where it almost feels like it's a parody of this type of movie because of the 30 minutes of circles it spends you in.
01:17:00
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yeah And it's not just 30 minutes. It's like... It is 30 minutes of you're spinning in a circle, but it's like the penny going around the thing at the mall. drop it And once it gets to the end, it's like going really fast. And that is the end credits. 100%. Garrett, of what a perfect metaphor for this movie, because that is exactly...
01:17:21
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correct yeah hayley on letterboxd uh gave wild things two and a half stars and her review was this is basically the what you say snl skit on
01:17:42
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oh also a good metaphor we're really doing this here yeah oh This is the erotic thriller club. We do need to go back to another erotic scene that we forgot to talk about, which is when Nev Campbell and ah Denise Richards are in. Well, first of all, they are fist fighting each other. yeahp um and Kevin Bacon's fine with it.
01:18:07
Speaker
Kevin Bacon does not seem to care that Denise Richards nearly drowns this girl twice. And this leads us back to our original question. When was Kevin Bacon brought in to there I don't know. But it's so funny that he is filming them thinking he's getting evidence and then when they stop fighting and start making out he just slow zooms in on them and when the other cops are like This isn't evidence This is soft core pornography This is a crime What you've done is make a crime To teenagers Without their consent On private propertyty well no property warrant And then and you turn back up At that private property And shoot one of them three times yeah But you know what We're gonna send you on your way You're right we have to talk about that pool scene Because it is
01:19:05
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exquisite y'all holy that's a good one if i thought the cruel intentions kiss like had a significant part in awakening me as as bi i had seen this y'all whoa holy shit and i like that it starts with violence her like You know, slapping and hitting and hair pulling.
01:19:36
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And then Denise Richards is just looking down at her and is like her eyes just fill with with love and pity and she just starts kissing her. And then next thing you know we're off to the races, y'all.
01:19:49
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What's a real Romeo and Juliet? Can can yacht girl and swamp girl? You know, this star crossed lovers separated by a single gator.
01:20:00
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ah cut on go to your house this I was really hoping that like, twist number 19 would be that Denise Richards was also still alive and she and Nev could, like, go off together on their new boat.
01:20:16
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Live happily ever after with $8 million in their beautiful lesbian life. Their lesbian boat life. Yeah, because i do think this movie...
01:20:30
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was made for 15 year old boys and girls hello 15 year olds to think wow what a crazy smart thriller and because i do think if i if my memory is correct i do think that i thought this was a good movie when i was younger not just that i was like whoa do they sex so sex like i thought i think i remember thinking this was a good twisty thriller and like re-watching it's like no i you could break this apart i mean in a million different ways like in in a million different places like why wouldn't nev campbell allow denise richards to beat the shit out of her if she was the mastermind
01:21:17
Speaker
ah mass mind yeah like right like if you're pulling her own teeth later you know like clearly like how i mean my god if you backtrack and try to like plot this out from the beginning what was nev's plan it makes no fucking sense especially if her main goals are get money and get rid like fuck over kevin bacon in some way Like, this is, this is complicated. And I don't care if you've got a 200 level iq There are too many external factors that could have gone wrong.
01:21:56
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No, in this case, she had a plan. She had an idea and every single thing went exactly how she thought it was like what she thought it was going to do. It would have been interesting to maybe see like the places where the plan didn't go as planned and yes and you got to see her like super smart figuring it out yeah figure out how to get to where she was but no it just seemed like everything worked exactly how she thought it was going to work that would have required an extra 20 minutes of credits yeah we can't oh we can't be here for 20 extra minutes of credits
01:22:32
Speaker
So i had to look this up. Oh God. So what this came out in 98, 98. So it must've been the 99 MTV awards.
01:22:45
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Please tell me this one, something bit best kiss. ah So I saw that it was nominated for best kiss. And my thought was what crazy shit could have possibly happened that beat this.
01:23:03
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but so okay So the nominees that year, Ben Stiller and Cameron Diaz, There's Something About Mary. Okay, that's fine. Jeremy Irons and Dominique Swain and Lolita.
01:23:16
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The three-way kiss in this. Clooney and Lopez in Out of Sight. And Gwyneth Paltrow in Joseph Fiennes in Shakespeare in Love. Okay.
01:23:29
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I didn't think their kisses were like pretty. Like, listen, I love Shakespeare in Love. Shakespeare and Love.
01:23:37
Speaker
They got the Oscar and Best Kiss. And they didn't deserve either of them. Incorrect. It's political. I will die. i will happily die on the hill if Shakespeare and Love deserved Best Picture.
Cultural Impact and Trivia
01:23:53
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It did not deserve Best Kiss.
01:23:57
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I think that Shakespeare in Love deserved Best Picture if Saving Private Ryan wasn't also nominated. What the fuck? Saving Private Ryan is overrated.
01:24:08
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That I will agree with as war movie for sure. Now I'm just picturing Fiennes and Paltrow together. And then Shakespeare is the third. And he's like, now you two kiss. Yes!
01:24:24
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Doth your lips touch in front of mine eyes? Why don't you dare take your drag off? You know what? At least that would have been, a ah you know, a little bit of gay, right?
01:24:37
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and be more i can't believe that one. And you know how you know that the MTV Movie Awards likes a scandalous moment, too. Yeah. For the award winners to come up, accept the award, swap spit.
01:24:49
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That's what we all want. What were they thinking? would you take this away from us? It's the only award they could have won in any in any award show. any award show.
01:25:02
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Who was president 99?
01:25:05
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clinton clinton that was that's a fucking he'd love that yeah this isn't bush era come on yeah a are you kidding me like national holiday day national holiday he watched this movie and said hillary i'm gonna go play some saxophone in the oval office and
01:25:30
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he might have done the music for okay now you two kiss ah oh lord can't take us home okay ashley we'll start with you scale of one to five were you aroused five
01:26:03
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ten ten yeah 30 yeah 30 how high can i go five's the highest five's highest yeah of course my god garrett garrett five I mean, this is this is bound levels.
01:26:20
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Because this is, like I said, this took me back to my childhood. This took me back to... Garrett, time traveled. Oh, I got in the DeLorean and it was... The masturbatory DeLorean.
01:26:36
Speaker
and It's so sticky. I hate this DeLorean. tech I'm not joking. I said to my wife after this, because um obviously I brought up Denise Richards, OnlyFans, which I feel like I should have Ashley say about the OnlyFans, what happens in Real Housewives, the sentence that is exchanged with Erika Jayne.
01:26:59
Speaker
what What is it? I don't even remember. ah Denise, Leah told me that Erika Jayne says something like, I could get your pack of nudes on OnlyFans for $15.
01:27:10
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And Denise Richards responded, I can buy a ticket to your Vegas show for $7.
01:27:20
Speaker
Sick burn. And that is why I still love Denise Richards. Queen. To this day. That being said, I did have that one sex dream by Eric and Jane. Okay. um But the last thing I would say is like, even if you took out the iconic scene,
01:27:37
Speaker
That swimsuit enough would get this five stars for me. or five yeah That shit will make you believe in God, I swear. Someone has blessed us. Five. so What do you think I am? five A maid of stone?
01:27:52
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Do you think I have no heart? No libido? That I cannot give this movie five out of five? five would i Would I have loved more? Yes, but do feel- Go further.
01:28:04
Speaker
Why did we cut so early? Why did we cut so early? Why did we not get Kevin Bacon and Matt Tillen to have sex? That would have been great. But I also can recognize that I am hashtag blessed to be born in this time, in this place where this movie exists, and I can watch it and look these beautiful people.
01:28:27
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They're so beautiful. Now, what would you have thought about this? Because um Sam Lombardo was not originally cast as Matt Dillon. Really? was originally Robert Downey Jr.
01:28:43
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Do you think he has major regrets about not being able? like Well, he should. my God. like every single one of us wants to be the Matt Dillon in that scene saying you two kiss.
01:28:55
Speaker
You two kiss now. he His substance abuse issues were like full swing. And apparently the insurance to- weigh too much. Yeah, half him on the cast was so high and they went with Matt Dillon.
01:29:09
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And the director was like, we got the right guy in the end, which you have to say. You have you can't be like, I really wish I got a guy. Honestly, to this day, Downey Jr. still credits like one of the biggest movies he ever made as being that remake of the Shaggy Dog.
01:29:25
Speaker
Because that was them taking a chance on him. that Well, no, that was that was his comeback. Because no one, like, they thought he was too much of a liability. And that was the first movie to take a chance on putting him in something that led to him getting Iron Man. Iron Man.
01:29:43
Speaker
It's hard for me to picture this movie... here's the thing is I'm already mentally erasing Matt Dillon from that scene. So like it, in many ways, it doesn't matter who you fill it in with, but you know what?
01:29:57
Speaker
Maybe it would have been better with Robert Downey Jr. It's hard to say, but Ashley, there was a person who auditioned for Susie that I think would also change it to where none of us would be mad.
01:30:11
Speaker
Natasha Lyonne. Wow. Right? Yeah. I also know. oh my god. I don't know which part she auditioned for but I know Tara Reid auditioned for this movie.
01:30:27
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And this was before she you know
01:30:33
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yeah checked out
01:30:37
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yeah or this as we're talking about the the eroticism we've always said that if somebody is willing to show dong that basically moves it up a point okay And in this movie, it's not like this is the first one that not but we're not just seeing like it flaccid in a sexual situation where it shouldn't be flaccid.
01:30:59
Speaker
We're watching him in a non-sexual situation where he's half cocked. Yeah. Which I appreciate. i think Kevin Bacon is just always half cocked. It's entirely possible.
01:31:10
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I feel like the the night vision shot of, or the heat vision shot of him in um ah The Invisible Man. What the fuck did that? Hollow Man. Hollow Man. And Hollow man he was also hanging some serious dong. Mm-hmm.
01:31:26
Speaker
Mm-hmm. And I refuse to believe that was a body double. Mm-mm. I mean, if he didn't in this, I i honestly think he probably... i think his penis was so well-received in this, and he got so much press attention, which he said he got zero in Europe and a lot in the United States.
01:31:43
Speaker
That checks out. I mean, here we are, how many years later, talking about it. It's yeah something to behold. but yeah It's a big deal. i'm I do...
01:31:57
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I don't think we needed more boob. but Like, I think we got plenty of boob. It is sad that Neve Campbell couldn't show her boobies because I don't think she would have been against it. She was just on Party of Five. So it's like you can't. like i thought there's no I thought this was post Party of Five, though. I thought she was done because this was filming at the same time as Scream 2.
01:32:19
Speaker
Really? like When did Party of Five end? I thought she had a no nudity because of Party of Five. i See, I thought this was her trying to pull away from the Party of Five thing, which it's funny because we've talked about certain movies like this before, like Alyssa Milano doing all the... the I mean, have we've seen her in, what, two, three movies now?
01:32:41
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And then Elizabeth Hurley in Showgirls. yeah And this is probably of like the kind of child star trying to pull away from what you thought
01:32:56
Speaker
I don't know if it's the best movie, but it was the least damaging. You are not going to believe this, but um Party of Five went to 2000. Wow. But Party of Five is still on.
01:33:12
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Party of Five is always on. yeah will Yeah, one of my favorite movies actually that is that movie for a lot of people is a movie um called Rules of Attraction. yeah Yeah, which is based off of a Brett Easton Ellis novel um who also wrote American Psycho.
01:33:36
Speaker
And it's like James Van Der Beek and the the main ones. There's a lot of like ex-child stars in this, but James Van Der Beek and Jessica Biel. are in this doing cocaine Jessica Biel gets gang banged James Van Der Beek is having like really horrible sex with several women um i mean it's like it's a pretty dark movie and that was specifically why Jessica Biel and James Van Der Beek and the kid from Wonder Years. What the fuck was his name? Oh my God. Fred Savage also in this movie shoots heroin into in between his toes.
01:34:17
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Fun. And starts saying things like, I can feel my dick. I can feel my dick. Like it is very much so like very clearly their attempt to be like, we are adults now. adult.
01:34:29
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And for anyone that still owns a copy of that DVD, pop it in. There is a, in quotes, mystery commentary. Pop that on.
01:34:40
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The mystery commentary, you get to watch the feature length film with the audio stylings of Carrot Top.
01:34:49
Speaker
Wow. What? That is on your DVD that's in your house right now. I do own that DVD. It is in my house right now. Yeah, I know. You never chose the mystery option and that's on you. I never chose the mystery option.
01:35:07
Speaker
That is on me. I need to honestly, after youre discovering this gem that has not been taken out of the traveling DVD case that it's been in since 2004 probably, um i do need to go back through. that There are some real good ones in there.
01:35:24
Speaker
Scratch to hell. her But they're going to work. All right. but I'm going to do my copy of ah Willard soon. It was back
Sequels and Series Curiosities
01:35:34
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there with Wild Things and the W's.
01:35:39
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all right ashley cassidy scale one to five were you thrilled
01:35:46
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um fucking hard to say because the whole time was like what's going on but it is that yeah in its own way thrilling
01:36:01
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This is truly a hard question. You're just getting spun in circles. You don't have time to process anything to think, oh cool, because we're already like on to the next thing.
01:36:14
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Yeah. Yeah. i Because I will say like when Neve Campbell got killed, I was like, oh, my God, they killed her. And then but immediately I was like.
01:36:25
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Did they, though? Because we didn't see it happen. You didn't see but... I mean, you saw them wrap put wrap something in plastic and put it in the back of... yeah You see her face!
01:36:36
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Yeah, yeah. You see her face through the plastic. observably Denise Richards like helped wrap this girl in plastic. While she pretended to be dead and Denise Richards didn't know, which is wild.
01:36:52
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But again, i didn't see that. I feel like they kept a lot of the thrilling stuff off camera to disguise it. Yes. don't think I was very thrilled. i would say i teeter at like 2.5. Okay. Okay.
01:37:06
Speaker
Garrett? Garrett? I think the most thrilling thing in this entire movie really is that slow-paced car wreck off the side where it doesn't... Not only does it not hurt him, it looks like it's inconvenienced him. like He looks like he's more annoyed that his shirt is now wet than his Jeep has rolled into the bayou. Because I'm still in Louisiana. slowly His Jeep slowly, slowly carefully...
01:37:38
Speaker
rolled itself into like he's fine and it's a jeep it'll get out of it he's gonna be okay he's gonna be okay his jeep's gonna be okay it really is kind of a minor inconvenience he does receive that ass beating like honestly i am hoping that one of the three sequels to this film does follow the the boat boy that's fucking denise richards there's sequels Kit.
01:38:05
Speaker
multiple We have Wild Things 2 which I also own on DVD. There's Wild Things Diamond in the Rough and the one that I've been waiting my whole life to watch until I had this podcast and we're finally here.
01:38:18
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Wild Things colon foursome.
01:38:23
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Oh, what a world we live in. and if you're wondering, these all take place at ah Blue Bay High School and exist within the same universe.
01:38:34
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No! that. It does say they're all kind of rehashings of the same story, but my guess is worse. And you have to have more twists than the one that came before it.
01:38:48
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You can't have a sequel that has 19. were up to 19. These movies are 12 hours long and they're still going. No, but um thrills too.
01:39:02
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I'm going to say that the many, many twists, I will consider those thrills in their own right because it did it keep me on the edge of my seat being like, what?
01:39:12
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And give it a three. so I think we're all in about the same general area. And dumbest questions of all time. Let's do it. Would you ruin your life for Denise Richards?
01:39:25
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Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Easy. Yep. Yep. Yep. yeah yeah' not yeah yeah and ah you gonna ruin your life for nev gamble yeah yeah
01:39:41
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no no was her Nope. doesn't do it for me. No. Yeah. The scene where she's like just in her bedroom waiting for the cops to get there, which I love because she calls the police to report this rape and then they get there and she's like really sassy to them. And they literally are like, you called us.
01:39:59
Speaker
What's up? She's literally like sitting. There's like scenes where she's talking to the cops and smoking a joint. i just like I could be getting butt fucked but right now. Or like yeah literally says that.
01:40:11
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um Like her attitude. Love the attitude. she has a great taste in music. Great taste in clothes. She has great taste in movies. I think we would get along really well. Also, she's a millionaire. And she can sail a 40-foot yacht by herself, which is next to impossible for even like a grown man to do. So that's very impressive. but Yes, I would ruin my life for her.
01:40:35
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Yeah, yeah. Sam. She wouldn't put up with me on that boat. Like, i would get harpooned off the side of that shit so fast. That is what we are asking when we ask the question, would you ruin your life for? It does. Are you willing to get harpooned in the chest if it means you got have- Are you getting on the boat?
01:40:51
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Are you getting on the boat? Susie, it's too hot. My boat shoes are still slippery. Like, boom! I can sail a boat by myself, bitch. getting that boat Matt and Dylan. I'm floating out there like a buoy with Dylan.
01:41:04
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and I'm not getting on that boat for Matt Dillon. No way. No how. I would get on the boat for Kevin Bacon in... Footloose.
01:41:16
Speaker
No, I wouldn't do it for Footloose. I would do it for Stir of Echoes. Okay, okay. Tremors. I'd probably get on his boat. Tremors. oh I think late in life Bacon is really charming.
01:41:31
Speaker
Yeah, he's he's a hottie now. I wouldn't say that I was into him when he was younger. of course, I was a child, so that makes sense. But that's not true, because my first crush ever was Jack Nicholson in One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest. Explains a lot. That explains so so so much.
01:41:51
Speaker
So much. No, I'm not going to ruin my life for this Kevin Bacon. There are many other Kevin Bacons I would ruin my life for, but not Not this this police brutality cop. Not the Chicago cop who likes shooting teenagers. Yeah, no. the real question real question for everybody is, would you get on a boat with Robert Wagner?
01:42:13
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i
01:42:15
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so You think he has a clause in his contract that he can't be filmed on boats? Yeah, that's he's like, I can't be in the boat scene. I can be at the yacht I can be in the movie. I can be at the yacht club. i can't be on a boat.
01:42:29
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Outside the yacht club. ah love it's Boats have restraining orders against Robert Wagner. You stay away from that dinghy.
01:42:40
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and The boat commission is like, absolutely not. Stay away from these boats. I think you harpooned the wrong guy off the boat. Well, Ashley, thank you for coming back.
01:42:54
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think it's unfair to people like Anthony, though, that you've come here and not had to take a little peek inside Papa G's treasure chest of dog shit.
01:43:06
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So I think... yeah we kind of eventually need to have you back to watch the worst thing you've ever seen. Sorry. i only watch bangers.
01:43:19
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Sorry, every movie I watch is gold because I'm the one watching it. ah One thing I do want to say before I go, that the crew did find a dead body when they were filming this. No! Where?
01:43:32
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yeah the evidence? A gaffer found a body floating in a river during... Stop it! Outdoor scenes next to a river. And what they did... I'm just saying, though, was...
01:43:45
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was further for more social george viguer and a bolt before I don't know who the body was, but I do know that because they were filming and they only had a certain amount of time to film, the body was anchored to the harbor until the police could conduct their investigation.
01:44:09
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So there are scenes of this movie that are shot with a floating dead guy. off screen stop it the yeah thank you for bringing that up because I forgot like so well that slipped my brain and that's the craziest fucking fact about this movie never have I been more glad to come on to one of these having not looked at any of the trivia because my god this has been an experience treasure actually does that bump all of our thrills up one star because there's an actual dead body yeah yeah
01:44:44
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I'm going to hit it up. I'm a three
Podcast Highlights and Closing Remarks
01:44:46
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now. Do you think that there's somebody that's just like Nana was in that whole scene and they just left her?
01:44:56
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And they just let her float there while they finish this horrible dialogue. Oh my God. God damn it. Yeah. Ashley, thank you for coming. you want to plug your shows?
01:45:11
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Yeah, of course. Yeah. ah Follow Keep It Weird at Keep It Weird Cast. Check us out on YouTube, youtube.com slash Keep It Weird Podcast. And Losers Club as well. i don't know their socials. I think it's just at Losers Club Podcast on Instagram and Twitter. And that one is a Stephen King podcast.
01:45:31
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We are just about this year, actually. The podcast, I've only been on the show for so... The podcast itself has been going for like seven years.
01:45:43
Speaker
And this year we will be caught up. We will have read every single thing that Stephen King has ever written. Oh my God. That's incredible.
01:45:53
Speaker
Wow. That is. I don't know King has read everything King has written. Hey. King doesn't remember some of the things he wrote. Well, it depends on how much cocaine he was on at the time. How much cocaine would be on.
01:46:08
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I will say i did see the monkey and it ruled. So I cannot wait to see the monkey. You're going to, you're going to love it. um Can't wait. Yeah. Thanks everybody for listening.
01:46:20
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ah Sorry. you know, about last time when we did flesh tone, that's why we gave you wild things this time. But as always, that we take it away as always at erotic thriller club. but on instagram and erotic thriller club at gmail.com if you have any questions comments concerns tell your friends recommendations yeah we would love to see any movie recommendations we love to see people tell us what their uh ratings were for movies uh so comment subscribe like rate review whatever you know all that good stuff that helps us find more members of the club
01:47:02
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