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Babygirl (2024)
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It's the one year anniversary of the Erotic Thriller Club! For our birthday A24 blessed us with a second erotic theater outing with the new Nicole Kidman flick Babygirl! Jump to 17:20 if you're here just for the Babygirl chat. Also, we start the episode handing out awards to the movies we've covered over the 1st year!
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Introduction and Purpose of the Erotic Thriller Club
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Ladies, gentlemen, folks beyond the binary, grab your husband, wife, partner, mistress some lactaid and gather around the radio. It's time for this week's meeting of the Erotic Thriller Club.
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Hey everybody, welcome to this week's Meeting of the Erotic Thriller Club. As always, Garrett Callender and get Ryan here. And this is where we answer the genre's three most important questions. Was I aroused? Was I thrilled? And would I ruin my life for this person? We have a special little treat for you ah here at the beginning of this episode, don't we, Garrett?
Celebrating One Year and Introducing the Annual Awards
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We do, if you can believe it.
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We have been doing this dumb little show for one full year. One whole year! But we wanted to put together ah few a for all of the movies that we've watched this year. ah We compiled a list of nominees ah and we would like to share that with you.
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So yes, welcome to the first annual erotic thriller club awards. If you're here for baby girl, check the timestamp down below. I'll put where we actually start talking baby girl. Uh, we just want to do a fun little thing before we get to that, just to, you know, celebrate our first birthday here. Uh, does the erotic thriller club awards have a name or we like the hornies, the fuckies, the horny stabbies.
Special Recognition for 'Bound' and Hall of Fame Induction
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The Horny Stabbies is good, I really like that. But the Fuckies has a good ring too. I don't want to steal from the Adult Entertainment Awards. Yeah, good point. I think the Horny Stabbies, the Hornies, the Stabbies. Let's workshop it. Yeah, we'll make sure it's more official for the two-year anniversary. Obviously.
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This does only include movies we've watched in the first year of this podcast. So there are a lot of movies omitted and a very big one as well. We need to start by explaining why we have left Bound off the list, and that is because we realized it would sweep every single category. Most erotic, most thrilling, most would ruin my life for either of those glorious women. There's just no way we could include it. It wouldn't be fair to everyone else. We think it deserves its own special ah award category or achievements, what are like a Lifetime Achievement Award for Bound.
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a Lifetime Achievement Award and the first inductee into the Erotic Thriller Club Hall of Fame. Thank you, Wachowskis. Thank you, Jennifer Tilly. Thank you, Joey Pants. Thank you, Gina Gershon. Thank you, Chris Maloney. I'm trying to think who else was inbound off the top. Everyone, everyone, if you were the lighting guy or, ah you know, yeah the PA for that movie, we thank you because if you're the toilet that guy got his head slammed into. Yeah. Yeah. Thank you for that. Absolutely.
Award Categories and Most Erotic Scene Winner
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We're gonna kick it off with the first award here. We've got most erotic scene. We have seen a lot of parts. We've seen a lot of thrusting, but let's find out which ones really got us going. Our nominees are, The Roller Coaster Fingering in Fear, Dream Threesome in Embrace of the Vampire, Car Sex in Revenge,
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Great sex while mom watches in Arabella, The Black Angel. Elevator blowjob in Fatal Attraction. And the rain sex in Nine and a Half Weeks.
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And our winner is the Dream Threesome in Embrace of the Vampire. I believe this is the only one where afterwards I literally did have to leave and go have sex. ah Because it it just put me in the mood that much. And no one else can compete other than other than Bound, obviously.
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That is a thing that Kit told me either before or after our Embrace the Vampire episode. I believe after. and That movie really did it for
Most Thrilling Moments Nominees and Winner Debate
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her. that If the movie actually results in one of the co-hosts getting laid, that's an automatic win to me. And that honestly, that was a banger of a scene. and Absolutely. ah And maybe it was the earring, the one earring that did it for me. Garrett,
00:05:38
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Would you like to go ahead with our next category, Most Thrilling Moments? We have the dwarf reveal from Don't Look Now, an all-encompassing ghoul for body double, the merry-go-round in the attic from The Crush, Marky Mark in the peephole from Fear,
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and walking with the Nazis from Notorious, Alfred Hitchcock's movie from the 40s. And most thrilling goes to...
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The Ghoul from Body Double, because there's a fucking ghoul in that movie, kid. I don't care what you say, there's a ghoul. Garrett, please, I do not believe that you are actually giving this award to your made up ghoul over the king of cinematic thrills himself, Alfred mother frickin' fucking Hitchcock. You decided that instead your ghoul went. And I say your ghoul because he's not really a ghoul.
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So you know how some people look too deep into a Kubrick movie? Well, I'm thinking most people didn't look far enough into a Brian De Palma movie and y'all are dumb. That was a ghoul and he was scary. The ghoul gets the award and not coming to accept the award is the ghoul. Ooh.
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No, he was just a it was just a scary man in a Native American mask. So they say, I still give it. That thing scared the shit out of me. Let's go next kid. Oh, I have to move along, ah even though I 100 percent disagree. We're going to pull ah these were voted on. By the way, we both voted on this. No, she agreed. No, I didn't. That didn't happen. He is a liar. You are lying to the people. but Well, who would you give runner up to if the ghoul doesn't get it?
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I would give it to the Nazi walk in Notorious. That thing had me on the edge of my seat. That was really, really good. that ah Though that dwarf reveal and don't look now, I swear to God, I yelped when that person turned around and I, a little pee came out. Just a little bit.
00:08:07
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Why was she so scary? I don't know. I also have a lot of love in my heart for Murky Mark at the people with the, uh, good as it get in the house. Let me,
Person I'd Ruin My Life For - Men's and Women's Edition
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let me in that. Let me in the house. Let me in the fucking house.
00:08:26
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There it is. That's what I was looking for. And the way we go around. Yeah, that was good, too. There's I mean, like, listen, we picked all these because they're really good. Like the dream threesome and embrace the vampire obviously got my motor running. But like the rain sacks in nine and a half weeks is chef's kiss. Perfect. Would not change a frame. Yeah, it's exquisite. Let's go on to our next category.
00:08:51
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person I would most ruin my life for. We're dividing this up into two parts, a men and women category. If we had more movies with non-binary folks, we would put that in there too. ah Hey, shout out to directors out there, writers. We want some non-binary erotic thrillers. That would be really rad. We're ready. I'm ready for it. Get out there and shoot those movies. All right. Yes. First up would ruin my life, men's edition.
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First up, young feral Affleck reindeer games, Mickey Rourke, nine and a half weeks, Mark Ruffalo in the cut, Al Pacino cruising, aged emotionally battered, Affleck deep water. And the award goes to.
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Aged emotionally battered Affleck in deep water that as a handsome man, he wets his snails. He's rich, he loves his wife no matter what. And I just, ye you're not gonna, I love Affleck. I've always loved Affleck. I mean, I can't deny that. Although I really am also a big, big fan of Al Pacino in cruising. He is so beautiful in that those leather jackets
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We'll let the listeners know it was very close. like it It was very close between those two. Though I think it's not fair how not close Mark Ruffalo was, considering he's the only one of these four men, five men, that those are two different men. kit yeah Those athletes, those are different guys frank guys. One has seen some shit. yeah Mark Ruffalo showed his dick in that movie though.
00:10:44
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Mm-hmm, and he deserves better. It makes me work with just a babe. Yeah, that's true too. All right, woman I would ruin my life for. We have Alyssa Milano, Embrace of the Vampire. Oh. Kristen Stewart, Love Lies Bleeding. Oh! Charlize Theron, Reindeer Games. Oh my god, are you gonna keep doing?
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Sorry, I don't have to make a noise for each one. Natasha Henstridge in Species and Kim Basinger in Nine and a Half Weeks. And our winner is... Kristen Stewart, Love Lies Bleeding. Garrett and I du both agreed that absolutely 100% would take her home. A weird, horrible crime family and all. Yeah, I will.
00:11:41
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If I have to marry into bug guy, I'm there. ye There's do it worse things in life than dealing with bug guy.
00:11:52
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Absolutely. And one of those worst things would be living a life without Kristen Stewart. Yeah, no, not worth it. Bugs, bugs given to me. Angry with them. All right. All right. Our next category is most unhinged crime.
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First up, we have, dog gets yeeted out of window, single white female. Oh no, wasps in the dark room, the crush. Cowboy dick chop, Arabella black angel. Brother-in-law gets jawed. the Love lies bleeding. And the ghoul drills, body double. And the award goes to,
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Dog gets yeeted into the sun because, but folks. It doesn't matter what happens to a person in a movie, but if you touch a dog, everyone's deeply affected, and that puppy squished. It's so sad and so messed up. The wasps in the dark room was a particularly inspired option, whereas Dog Out the Window seemed more of a spur of the moment thing, but in terms of sheer, like, absolutely too messed up to handle, the Dog Out the Window is 100% our choice.
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And one of those, a man's penis gets chopped off and we see it. And then a detective eats a ketchup sandwich while looking at it. yeah But that dog, very cute, got emotionally attached too fast. He cannot fly. Congratulations, single white female. All right, our next category is best, best friend.
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And the nominees are Ted from Cruising, Gay or Not Gay Gary from Fear, Graham the Neighbor from Single White Female, Joey Pantoliano from Zandali, Lisa Kudrow, Dance with Death, and Jennifer Jason Lee in Single White Female.
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Your best friend till the end. Best friend till the end. Nobody deserved her. But I am in fact going to give the award to... Thank you. Gay not gay Gary from fear. Just a good guy.
00:14:18
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He's so good, he doesn't deserve what happens to him. He stands up for his friend, he gets the shit kicked out of him, and he still is ride or die. Love that guy. Mostly die. Die, die real bad. Yeah, Gary, if you remember, we're saying gay, not gay, Gary, because in an earlier version of the script, Gary was written as a gay man. They took that out, but some of it still kind of lingered in a way yeah that you're like- Yeah, you can sort of still tell.
00:14:47
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But yeah, it was it was kind of an ambiguous situation with Gary, but fuck a sweet man. That is a list of very, very nice best friends. We do gotta give Lisa Kudrow the shout out though, for as the reporter is on stage for the first time stripping and dance with death, Lisa Kudrow, like the mom and mean girls, is standing in the audience, like reminding her like, top off, take the top off.
00:15:15
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being 12! 12! Fuck, that was dumb. She would be the best friend in the category. All right, we're gonna close it out with this one. The They Deserved It Award. Somebody was doing either shitty, doing some dumb shit, and they got what they had coming to them.
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First off, we have the author driving away while sending an I told you so text at the end of deep water, car sex resulting in being paralyzed, Arabella, Black Angel, Billy Zane getting double-crossed by Laura Palmer in First the World, Then the Fireworks, Cary Elway's gets his car fucked up in The Crush, and Tom Cruise gets scared and eyes wide shut.
00:16:08
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We didn't pick a winner. Well, you're just gonna have to decide. and So on the fly right now, I have to choose which one of these. Yeah, you do. Which one is the most deserved?
00:16:22
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It's car sex kit. It's car sex. That guy was not looking at the road. He's going so fast on a windy road. What did he think was going to happen? Yeah. And it is a much worse sin than texting while driving that the deep water guy was was doing in terms of like, what were you thinking?
00:16:44
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That is funny though that he died because he was sending his wife a text like, I told you he was bad and I figured it out. But I realized, I don't think it was Car Sex. I think he was getting road head and he laid his head all the way back and closed his eyes. Yes. Yeah. He's so stupid. He a hundred percent deserved it.
00:17:02
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What the fuck? Dumb, dumb, dumb. You get the award. You deserved it, even though in the end you turned out not to be paralyzed. And- Well, he was paralyzed for a while, I guess, and then he got better. Look, it doesn't matter. He didn't do that on purpose. That led to some other shit. But let's get into it. A24 in one year gave us two erotic thrillers. Thank you. Thank you. Someone is keeping the genre alive for us.
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Romy Mathis is the CEO of a tech company that's hard at work to replace you with a robot at your job. Her husband of 19 years isn't doing it for her sexually, so naturally the only option is to make the hot new intern Mickey Rorcker around town like she's a nine and a half weeks. Will her husband find out? Will HR find out? Can you all just let this poor woman nut in peace? This week on the Erotic Thriller Club,
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baby girl. i was beautiful and yes why can't this poor woman nu in peace just because she's replacing us all with robots her job i saw this movie obviously two times because i mention that every fucking time I didn't really even think about her job. I think the majority of our erotic thrillers, a job is just so in the background. But in the second viewing, I was really looking at this job. This job sucks. She's still an evil CEO. She is still an evil CEO, but I think it really plays well into the themes of the movie in terms of like fear of being replaced.
00:18:43
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Right. Fear of being of being irrelevant in your own life, ah which her husband mentions. he You know, he asks, am I irrelevant in your life? And she says, we're all irrelevant. And, you know, there's clearly a lot of the things that she does, the plastic surgery, Botox, the whatever weird treatment she was getting. Like there's a lot of like clinging and trying desperately to stay relevant.
00:19:11
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even though the younger generation is coming up. That's clearly why she hasn't promoted her promising young ah protege at the company, is because like some part of her is threatened. And I'm not sure if the movie's what it comes down to in the end is just like, is the message that we should all just be okay with being replaced?
00:19:33
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Is that, is that what we're going for here? Cause that's kind of how it, how the movie wraps up. I don't know. What do you think? So the, so the, the moral of this story is replacement is inevitable. We're all going to die someday. Get your nut girl. Get your nut girl. Yeah. Life's too short. Life's too short to have bad sex.
00:20:02
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So the movie does open immediately into a sex scene. Awesome, love it. Huge shout out to Helena Raine on this one. She wrote and directed the movie. She was the director of the other A24 movie from a year or so ago, ah Bodies, Bodies, Bodies. Which I loved and I'm not normally a horror movie person, but I really enjoyed Bodies, Bodies, Bodies.
00:20:24
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Yeah, she did this movie because she's a huge fan of Adrienne line and Paul Verhoeven and wanted to make something kind of in the vein of that. And I think she succeeded. The movie is an erotic thriller. I think that is maybe a little debatable, but I love that we opened with the erotic like there's thrills, but it's there's definitely thrills. but dies Nobody Nobody's life is is in any imminent danger, but it has its own thrill.
00:20:53
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It's like low level personal ah thrills where like, how much do I care about somebody potentially losing their job and you know power dynamics, but great. I have to say, I felt a lot of anxiety watching this movie at first. um ah i Even though she is an evil CEO, there are no ethical billionaires under capitalism.
00:21:17
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um
00:21:19
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There was a part of me that was so anxious that they were going to make fun of her, that the movie was going to essentially be laughing at her for being an older woman who has desires and kinky desires at that. And I really, really didn't want that to happen. I didn't want her to be publicly humiliated, either the that it even if it didn't include the audience laughing at her I didn't want to watch the smug assholes in her office treating her like shit for this I just I foresaw so many ways in which this could go so badly and I immediately
00:21:59
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felt for her, you know? Even though she's Ice Queen Nicole Kidman, you can tell that a lot of what she's doing um is built to have this perfect image of the female CEO who has her whole shit together. Perfect family, perfect husband, perfect life, perfect company, right? And i But you could see the self-loathing at the core. And I just, i i I did not want that to go badly for her. I didn't want her to get embarrassed. And so I feel like in that way, the thrills really were there for me. That's awesome. I love that like i love when a movie can work you know differently ah for everyone else. And maybe that is just me watching it ah from a dude gaze.
00:22:51
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Yeah, I feel like a dick now, Kit. Aw, sorry.
00:22:58
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We see them having sex. she We see her having sex with her husband. She walks away. It's almost like we get that same shot from Eyes Wide Shut, which once again, this is as much of a Christmas movie as Eyes Wide Shut is.
00:23:11
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there are Christmas trees in so many scenes and you know what I don't think they use the same strand of Christmas lights for all of the trees so hey you know maybe maybe better than coobs yeah maybe better than coobs but after they have sex which it did seem like she had a fine time until she walks away naked down the hallway gets a little dressed as she goes down logs into her laptop lays on the floor and masturbates to pornography So we see like, she did not get off during that. is She did not have a great time as it appeared. A24 gave us two movies. I have a question for you, Kit. They gave us two movies this year. ah both ah They gave us two erotic thrillers where the lead character lays face down to masturbate. Is that a common position for a lady to masturbate in?
00:24:07
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It's not how I masturbate. I mean, I'm sure everybody out there was curious. But ev to me, it seems a good angle with your hand laying down. And but then again, maybe it's like because you're right. That's how Meg Ryan does it in. um And in the cut and the cut, she did it, too. Yeah, I was thinking Kristen Stewart. But yeah, this was your maybe this is just maybe maybe I'm the weird one. But like and and maybe it's something about like when you're laying on your you know, on your front, you know, you can get friction in different ways. But for me, it seems like it would be harder to get your hand to do the things you want it to do. Laying on your back seems like the easier way. But wait, what do I know? You know, everybody does. Everybody gets their rocks off differently.
00:24:55
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I did ask a couple friends and they all had the same... You pulled hold the... I pulled my lady friends. We asked 100 American women. How do you nut?
00:25:09
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um But no, they kind of all said the, everybody I've talked to said the same thing. And it actually makes me wonder if it was more of a practical reason. I wonder if she, if a lady on her back masturbated in a movie is a quicker way to get an NC-17 from the MPAA. And to me,
00:25:31
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We'll call this like, did you saw Nosferatu? And ah spoilers, if you haven't seen Nosferatu yet, I'm gonna spoil the way it looks. He has a mustache in that movie, but Bill Skarsgard's doing such a crazy voice in that movie. I think that mustache is to cover his mouth so they can ADR that voice easier.
00:25:49
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No, that mustache is there because um he looks amazing with it. He does look amazing. But I know like listening to the Cohen's talk about having Sam Elliott on the Big Lebowski and how they loved working with him because ADR in his dialogue was so easy because that mustache covers his mouth and that Skarsgard voice sounded hard.
00:26:11
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I mean, it is. It's a very ah powerful voice and it it rings through the theater much like ah Baines did in Batman 3, was it? Yeah. Yeah. So later, ladies, if you are going to have yourself a little face down, it's feel free to refer to that as Orlok's Mustache.
00:26:37
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No, I refuse to allow you, a man, to name a sexual position for a woman masturbating. You're not allowed. I take this away from you. We're gonna call it the Meg Ryan. Agree to disagree? But yeah, so you can obviously see that the first orgasm was an act like it was designed to please her husband by she has this beatific look on her face. She's glowing. Her hair is, you know, perfect. And she's making all the right noises to turn him on. And then when she's getting herself off, it's like she's she stuffs her hand in her mouth to keep from making too much noise. It's feral. It's it's much more feral. Yeah, it's much more raw.
00:27:25
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um That's one of the things I really loved in this movie was just it isn't porny acting sex scenes. It is just like you said, raw is raw is absolutely the word. And there's a couple different sex scenes or like fingering scenes, which we should have had a fingering category this this last fingerer for the awards. but And I think it's all shot so well. we're just With a lot of these movies that we've watched over the years too, the camera just doesn't move the way in the 90s and the 80s as it is capable of moving now.
00:28:07
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that these movies look so much more grand and beautiful, but when you get a scene where she is like laying down on the floor, faces right in the camera and it doesn't move for two full minutes while she's getting fingered to the point of orgasm and you were just staring dirty orgasm and you can see every look on her face as she feels So many emotions going across her face as she is. I mean, it's really powerful, I would say. it's Acting. That is. like That's ah that's the Oscar moment is a scene like that. It's so is that what you want them to play during the Oscars is the little clip for for Nicole Kidman is just her coming on the floor.
00:28:52
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Helen Mirren and Meh Meh Meh. And then it's like, I keyed, but ah it was, I don't know, we're skipping around a little bit there, but like you said, I think it's a, right off the bat, you know that the husband is not satisfying her, based on her going- She's sad, because he's Antonio Bendetas, you look at him and you're like, damn, how could you not to be satisfied in that relationship? The man is not less a step, he is beautiful, he is aging so gracefully, ah but apparently,
00:29:34
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He's got some old fashioned ideas about ah women's sexuality, we find out. Kit, in the 80s and 90s, Steven Seagal would have it in his contracts where he would not lose a fight on camera. I'm pretty sure there's something like that in like the Fast and Furious movies where they have to balance out the leads, how often they win or lose a fight. Yeah, where are you going with this?
00:30:03
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We need to fire Antonio Banderas' agent because it should absolutely be in his contract that he makes a lady cum every time. Otherwise it is slander. It's not true. so Like, I mean, I can only suspend my disbelief so far. And do you know how hard, okay, so let's just pretend for a minute that guy can't make a woman cum.
00:30:30
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I can't believe it. I mean, I guess there is the possibility that a man who is extremely handsome has never had to work to win over a lady and therefore has been coasting on good looks the whole time and never learned any technique. But that's not the find you get from Antonio Banderes. It's just not it's not his his ah he' fucking Zorro kit. You tell me Zorro can't fuck good. ah no So.
00:31:00
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like a little bit later in the movie, like way down the line after she's already cheated and everything's happened, she admits to her husband that she has not come in 19 years. He has never once made her come in their marriage. And if you want to see acting as good as her masturbating,
00:31:17
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A man who only knows that he's the sexiest guy ever finding out that he's an adequate lover and the shame and the like confusion and the that also is acting and I think we throw Antonio's that in his reel when he gets nominated for this too. 100% and I actually I really loved his monologue when he takes her down after he finds out that she has cheated. I thought that was also masterful acting.
00:31:44
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But back to the point, he is a Spanish man. There's just no way that he he doesn't believe in pleasing a woman. I just can't wrap my brain around it.
00:31:58
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Somewhere there's so there's a sad guy in Spain listening to this that's just like, you know nothing about us. This is so common for me that he finally played a character I can relate to. You know, Garrett, I think what you mean are that there are several Spanish ladies listening who are saying, yes, I have it all wrong and this is depressing and they're the ones who are suffering.
00:32:25
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yeah Trust me, there are certain guys out there that know they aren't good at it. Kit, I have absolutely been in sexual situations where the reaction I was getting, I knew for certain, was beyond my abilities to elicit such reaction to where it took me out of it. We were in different movies.
00:32:55
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I'm just saying, don't assume that every man thinks they're good at sex. Like they might pretend, but I think up here, maybe that's just me and like my, me voicing my inadequacies and like my ah fears as a lover. But trust me, some of us know our abilities. But he does have the face of a man who'd be like, yeah, I am making her make this noise for real.
00:33:21
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But the the part that that's upsetting is that she does try to get him to do something a little different. like she she She has to say it from under a sheet because she's so embarrassed of what she wants. um But she says she wants him to like cover her face with a pillow. And he like kind of tries and then is like, no, no, I can't do it. It makes me feel like a villain, he says.
00:33:46
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and Uh, I kind of like, I had a conversation with my partner about this afterwards about like, you know, who's at fault for the fact that this marriage doesn't work, right? Is it her for not conveying her desires to him? Is it him for not listening when she did try to communicate? And John pointed out that, um, that there's the real problem is that the best time to tell someone that you are into some kinky shit is not while you're already having sex.
00:34:17
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Uh, because that is when the man is or partner, whoever is most vulnerable, right? Like they've already made themselves vulnerable by initiating sex. And then you start critiquing their sex and that's going to hurt more. They're going to be like, wait, what, what do you mean? The conversation about like, Hey, I think I'd like to try something different tonight should happen. but Like when no one, when all clothes are still on.
00:34:47
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so that no one is feeling particularly ah you know um what's the word i'm looking for like we are vulnerable, I guess is the word I'm looking for, that no one is is put in a a precarious position while you have the conversation.
00:35:04
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So well, that might be most ideal. I do see where when you're both half naked, it feels more opportune in a way that, but you're right. Let's try this, but I'm just saying, i I can see that that is both a thing that you would really think would be the best time to talk about it, but is actually not the best time to talk about it.
00:35:30
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I guess like that moment though seemed, it was very real. like There are definitely like significant others I've had where like you kind of know what each other like quickly, where a conversation happens fast. But i but you know you can also be with somebody where the precedent is set so early almost of what sex is like together, where you aren't necessarily comfortable with just bringing it up, even if it's somebody you are comfortable with and everything else. I think that sometimes in relationships, this stuff can come out a lot later. I think that's true. and but The longer you wait, the more uncomfortable it is. Yes, she waited 19 years. Yeah, that's a little late. That's too late, darling. I mean, I guess that you had your own stuff to to work through, but girl, come on now.
00:36:27
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Yeah, so she she gets intrigued after her little meet-cute with ah this new intern ah when she sees him ah be a dog whisperer, I guess? Mean dog on the street barking at people. He comes over and, yeah, you're phrasing it, right? Harris Dickinson whispers to a dog, gets down, pets it, and the person's like, oh my God, thank you for helping my dog not attack somebody.
00:36:57
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As we get introduced to his character, and then shortly after that, she's the CEO of the company. He's an intern. All the interns come to get introduced. And he says, I have a question. And he asks a very serious question about robotics. A inappropriate question, too, about, like,
00:37:16
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I don't know, he's like basically calling her out for the fact that that her robots are gonna replace everyone's jobs. And it's a job, it's a comment that absolutely should have gotten him kicked out the same day. Do robots really lead to sustainability or are you just trying to get people to like robots? That's like, yeah, that she should already see like, this is a problematic worker. Yes. He is going to get people to turn on my robot ideas.
00:37:45
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hu But I would say quickly into this movie, he is very awkward to me. He is immediately a guy that comes off as super cool. he He almost comes off as autistic to me, like where he, it's not like he's,
00:38:06
Speaker
But like he's like they they explicitly say that he's very good at intuiting what other people want and how to manipulate them. But you don't really see that so much. I mean, yeah obviously he gets with her, he's like, you want to be told what to do.
00:38:24
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Like he gets that, but you don't really see it in other places that because you in that, um, when they first have their discussion, like he gets made, uh, her men, she gets made to be his mentor. And so they have this one-on-one discussion and he's very awkward during it. Uh, he's like doing math on the ping pong ball. How many ping pong balls would fill a room question? And it's like.
00:38:54
Speaker
I don't really get how that shows what he's supposed to be good at, which is intuiting and understanding people. That doesn't show that at all. Because he's rain man and shit, he's math and he's autistic, I'm telling you. Right.
00:39:12
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it doesn't make any sense. No character as they establish him later in the movie where he's like I'm so good at manipulating people it kind of scares me which is like a real and interesting thing they could have delved into with this character. I do think he's one of the thinner characters here that doesn't get explored deeply enough I would love to know more about him and you know what he's getting out of this relationship and why he's attracted to this particular dynamic and what you know his interior life we really don't see all that much.
00:39:46
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Yeah, we do like one moment we get a glimpse into his past as him showing up to her house and he's already sitting with her family eating breakfast and kind of talking about his dad and where he fatal attraction type thing you show up is already in your house. I think there's certain things.
00:40:09
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with this movie that I am, I'll be honest, even on two viewings, it didn't really feel like some of that stuff was manipulating. It just felt like stuff that happened. Like there were two times that he kind of had to go be near her because of work and circumstance that- Well, I mean, he chose her to be his mentor. So like he did that to get close to her.
00:40:37
Speaker
Yeah. Where this really starts, he makes her coffee. and Then she goes to kind of an after work function. She's got kind of an assistant that is throughout the movie trying to talk to her about getting promoted and talking about like helping women within the company. They're at some sort of outing and he is also there, but in the corner of the room and sends a glass of milk to her table. Yes.
00:41:06
Speaker
Have at this point in the movie, have they already kissed? No, they had not. So he just sends her a glass of milk. yeah She knows it's him because of a glance. But it is completely unprompted from really anything. I don't know why milk. I mean, I guess I do know why it's a very symbolic drink, right? Like.
00:41:36
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It is an odd thing to do, and it's it's an interesting choice. um And then she drinks it while looking right at him. She just c chugs the whole thing in one go. um I hope she does not have some of your problems with lactose, Garrett.
00:41:51
Speaker
We were gonna do a thing where we each had a big glass of milk. Kid is not lactose intolerant. I am very lactose intolerant. I'm talking a white Russian over here. right we We were gonna do kind of a peewee's playhouse. Like if a secret word got said, I would have to drink milk, which would result in me feeling like I have knives in my tummy like due in the morning. And I realized you guys wouldn't see that part and I'd be torturing myself for no reason. It's true.
00:42:20
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And also, thanks, Kip, for not like taking full control over me and just making me do that through a webcam. You're welcome.
00:42:32
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um Yeah, so there's a lot of this back and forth between them of, you know, she's obviously hyper aware of the fact that it would be very inappropriate as the CEO for her to fucking intern.
00:42:49
Speaker
and ah There's so much going on with that power dynamic than mixed with the fact that but he is the dominant one in the relationship. So it's it's hard. They're obviously doing a really interesting job of playing with what power means in a relationship and and how to navigate that. I'm not saying that um that she's not to blame like she. Listen, she would rightly have gotten fired if she had been caught.
00:43:23
Speaker
But I don't know, I feel complicated about it. What exactly is her kink in this movie? So is it being emotionally dominated? I mean, it's he is basically having to do the Mickey Rourke nine and a half weeks thing, except she's a little bit wanting it. But there's also, there's a moment after the Christmas party when she comes in the next day and sees his tie on the ground.
00:43:53
Speaker
And she picks the tie up, goes to her office, closes the blinds, puts the tie in her mouth and masturbates. I get the feeling that what she's looking for is um that she wants to be the the dog. She wants to be, you know, ah told what to do and praised when she does it correctly. And as someone to both in a sort of way, take care of her, but also in, you know, dominate her. ah And she wants to be the weaker one, the one who gets told what to do. And it's a bit of a cliche that like, obviously, the domineering CEO secretly wants to be submissive.
00:44:42
Speaker
And I'm aware of the fact that that is a cliche and the movie's clearly aware of it, too. I get the feeling even she's aware of it and thinks it's and that's part of her own like self loathing is that she knows this is a stupid cliche, but it's how she feels. And that's probably part of why she hasn't tried to get her husband to go along with it. OK.
00:45:07
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But yeah, and she also does say though that it's it's the risk, the knowing that she could get caught and her entire life would be destroyed. That is part of the thrill for her. Like just general naughtiness of cheating.
00:45:23
Speaker
the naughtiness of cheating, of knowing that like you're you're gonna lose everything. but You're gonna lose, yeah, yeah. It's very high risk fucking, very high risk clothes on fucking for the whole first half of the movie, mind you. like He never sees her nude until two thirds of the way through this movie. Yeah, and it's a ah very telling fact that she does not want to be entire. like that it is an actual thing where he has to command her to take off her clothes and she does not want to. And I felt so, so bad for her that she hates herself this much and hates her body and hates the fact that she is old and
00:46:12
Speaker
irrelevant and not you know a sexy 20-something like her interns are and like her assistant is it's just you can see how much she hates herself and it's a really nice moment between the two of him when he says you're beautiful and she's like no I'm not and he says it again and you really believe him when he says it like no genuinely I'm not saying this to make you feel better like it Cause she is, like if Nicole Kidman feels bad about how she looks, what the fuck chance do the rest of us have? Jesus Christ. This is another one of, this was another situation just like an Eyes Wide Shut where this is a role for a less attractive person.
00:46:59
Speaker
We're like, we did get a comment on one of the the YouTube videos about Eyes Wide Shut where somebody commented and said something about Nicole Kidman has no sex appeal. And that's an insane thing to say. Like she's like she can not be your type, but you also like she is just a.
00:47:19
Speaker
If you can't look at things genie takes off for clothes and eyes wide shut and like kicks the dress to the side if you can't understand why that would be attractive to a lot of people and I just don't feel like you're really looking all that carefully. Yeah, like if tall, beautiful woman isn't your thing. Oh, I didn't realize. I get it, different, you know. Strokes for different folks, but like. Yeah, there's different flavors of ice cream for everybody, but I don't, yeah. There's a reason everyone in the orgy at Eyes Wide Shut looked like Nicole Kidman. Clearly people wanna fuck her.
00:48:03
Speaker
Yeah, that's that's somebody who's watching Eyes Wide Shuttin's like, yeah that's a room of fuckin' ughos. I mean, listen, we talked about how it needed more diversity and that not everyone is going to be attracted to Nicole Kidman and you can't have an orgy with only Nicole Kidman's. Nicole's Kidman? They all had very perky tits, but under that mask they all looked like Richard Kind.
00:48:27
Speaker
I want to be fair as well, I do think Richard Kind has sex appeal. If you have not seen him in an eye patch, that's ah that's a look. Right. And so they their relationship escalates very quickly. All of this happens and there are still Christmas trees up. So it is all happening within about a month span of time. And they're having sex at the office. They're having sex in a Creepy motel. It's all the motel. The motel fingering scene is the one we were talking about at the beginning. and Like, I mean, I didn't time it while I was in the theater, but it is. And I didn't really appreciate it as much the first time. But when you when I sat there and realized like, oh, my God.
00:49:15
Speaker
I'm really taking this in as so one shot, one camera sitting on the floor directly in front of her face. And all I'm seeing is her face and kind of blurry in the background, his hand going in and out of her from behind ah where she's essentially getting exactly what she does to herself, but from another person, which is yeah the best case scenario for you. Obviously. Yeah. Yeah. That, that scene is,
00:49:44
Speaker
front runner for best sex scene of the year next year on this show. we have to come back to it Yeah. and And there's a lot going on with him too, in that he's clearly not immediately comfortable with what they're doing. You get the feeling he hasn't been in a relationship quite like this before. He like.
00:50:09
Speaker
breaks character and or kayfabe or whatever a couple of times. Appreciate it. And thank you. While they are while he's giving her orders, like he's like kind of laughs a little bit. He's he's not immediately comfortable with the idea.
00:50:28
Speaker
um which works and doesn't work. It's very realistic. It's very believable. But I don't then see why she was attracted to him or this if he doesn't have that kind of quiet, controlled feeling to him that like Mickey Rourke had. Yeah.
00:50:53
Speaker
Yeah, I don't know, I never really got, I mean, obviously he's with a beautiful lady and that's why he's doing that, but so many things he did at the beginning were just risking this internship. For not really much of a reason. For no real reason? Well, okay, but that just adds to the fact, yeah, he's an overconfident, 20-something idiot.
00:51:17
Speaker
he he he has a fucking man he's white man who's used to like never having things go wrong for him so of course he thinks he can get away with saying dumb shit to the CEO and of course he thinks that like he can get this woman even though she's the CEO like he he is so blissfully unaware of what life is really like. And she says multiple times, you're so young. And he's always like, no, I'm not in the way that like, all children say that. yeah I hear kids talk all the time, nine year olds will be like, when I was a kid, I'm like, you're, you are a child now, you are a child now. It's like young people always
00:52:03
Speaker
deny that they are young for some reason. They don't feel young, I guess. I think one of the worst young people things about him is his tattoos. Oh, God, yes. I know a lot of our movies we watch, we see some shitty tattoos, sometimes a badass one, and I always suggest you and I need to get matching of that tattoo. You already know what tattoo I think we should both get from this movie.
00:52:34
Speaker
No, I don't. You're going to have to tell me. It is a cherub cupid in a ski mask with an AK-47. Oh, no, I forgot about that one. How do you forget that tattoo? That's so many. They all just were in a wash of like, ah, yes, Gen Z shitty tattoos. Of course.
00:52:58
Speaker
Sorry, Kenzie. You have a bad taste in tattoos. It's not your fault. Different taste. Yeah. This is your wretched kind in a man.
00:53:13
Speaker
But yes, it does help highlight the differences between them, that he is of the era where he gets his ah tattoo ideas from fucking Post Malone. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, he sucks. Not Post Malone. I think everybody kind of likes that guy. um Well, um the number of times I've thought about Post Malone in my life is like three, including right now.
00:53:39
Speaker
I'm looking through some of the notes here. When he meets her at the hotel, they like wrestle on the floor and he tells tells her to take her clothes off and he makes her get on her knees and eat that piece of strawberry rock candy. Oh, yeah. Like she's a horse, like eating a sugar cube. It was supposed to be like the dog, Garrett, the dog from when she first met him. But sure, if you want to think of it as a horsey with a sugar cube, you go right ahead. and But then as he starts fingering her and she's screaming like, don't stop, she's like, I don't wanna pee. What's happening there? we Did I miss this? She said, I can't, I'm going to pee, I don't want to pee. I wrote this line down while I was in the movie theater.
00:54:30
Speaker
on the second viewing. And I heard it both times. And that is a genuine fear. They always tell you to pee after sex, but the problem is that sometimes you really want to pee before sex because yes, if you lose control during your orgasm, you can lose control of your bladder as well and pee. It is a real thing that can happen.
00:54:50
Speaker
ah And that's the hotel's problem. And that's why you do this at this hotel. That's what those other stains are on the floor. oh god good And that place is filthy.
00:55:03
Speaker
After the fingering, she breaks down crying, because it's the first like true orgasm she's received from certainly from another another man in at least 19 years that we know of. And then we go into a montage of her with her family, her fucking this guy. And it's just like, she's at work, they're talking, then they're banging in a room.
00:55:26
Speaker
It kind of made the case for a polycule in many ways. Like, it seemed like she was really happy with her life like this. um And it kind of made the case for like, hey, what if you just, he gets along well with the family, invite him in. Fair, but what?
00:55:47
Speaker
What that got me thinking about was a lot of these scenes were like, I mean, it's not super explicit. But it is a lot of kissing and whatnot. And I usually don't think about the actor's significant other, but like. We think Keith Urban thought watching that. I'm going to say that I think with what I know about Keith Urban, which is admittedly. Practically near nothing. you're nothing ah That he is ah secure enough in his marriage that he found it hot.
00:56:26
Speaker
See, I think the same thing. I think Keith Urban was like, this rules. Hell yeah. I can watch this anytime my wife isn't here.
00:56:36
Speaker
That would be weird if that becomes his thing where later Keith Urban's got a sheet over his head and he's like, I want, I want you to fuck. I can't do an Australian cowboy accent, but he's just like, I want to have sex with you, but not look at you, but watch you having sex with Harris Dickinson.
00:56:54
Speaker
You know what, if that's what they're into, more power to them. She's going to find that out in about 10 years. After every time they have sex, he doesn't nut and goes into another room to masturbate to this movie on a laptop.
00:57:11
Speaker
um Sorry. i I am actually not sorry. I think there needs to be more Keith Urban side bars throughout this. I know, basically nothing about Keith Urban. We already established this. Short Australian country singer. That's it. I saw them to get... They but they live here in Nashville.
00:57:34
Speaker
And I saw them together at, we went to a screening of the Northman, she did a Q and&A. We had already seen the movie the day before, we just wanted to see the Q and&A, and we split after she did it before the movie. And when I walked out, they were out there together, and I was like, oh, goddamn, he is the same size as Tom Cruise. She's got a type. It seems like a perfectly fine guy.
00:58:01
Speaker
Keith, you a your wife is beautiful. thanks Thanks for donating your reindeer every year to the gardens here so we can go look at him. Oh, does he now? Yeah. Sorry. Merry Christmas. She loves Christmas. she's like She owns reindeer in real life. and she Nicole Kidman is as much a part of Christmas as Mariah Carey is. They are now co-queens of Christmas.
00:58:28
Speaker
yeah i It is not Christmas unless I see a dress drop and reveal Nicole Kidman's behind. ah ah And then you hear, all I want for Christmas is you, and then your Christmas is complete.
00:58:41
Speaker
her okay so her family she's got two kids in this movie one might be kind of non-binary I don't know she's got the haircut of like this could be your non-binary character I don't know she does say um like a lady in it dress very Billie Eilish is you know the vibe from that character as well and then there's the other one who does dancing and is perky The other daughter seems like she's supposed to be nine, but visibly is 15. And later we do see her have her sweet 16 in the movie.
00:59:18
Speaker
We do, cause I, in the, so ah you see happy 16th birthday written. I thought it was the other girl that was having the sweet 16. it Is it hers? It's really hard to tell. Cause one, this cake had soccer balls on it and like this kind of scene, like non-binary with a mullet. I didn't get a soccer vibe from her. You got a soccer vibe from the little dancey girl. Come on. Are you kidding me? That kid looked like they had crazy ADHD and would love to run up and down the field. You might be right.
00:59:56
Speaker
Either way, scene kid, as I think we will now refer to them, or mullet, mullet kid, scene kid. did Yeah, they have like a very trendy mullet. Yeah, is also cheating on their girlfriend, ah which when she tells her mom about this. Which her mom witnesses. Yeah, mom sees them fooling around out in the pool and is like, hey, what about your girlfriend? And they're like, yeah, I also like this though.
01:00:26
Speaker
And I don't know, I don't feel like that's how a mom necessarily should react. I don't know, Garrett, what would your mom have done? Never bring it up. Never, never bring it up at all. Shit, you're right, that's what mine would have done too.
01:00:47
Speaker
Yeah, I think one time I had a girlfriend home from college and we slept in the same bed or something and she was like, I don't like that. You shouldn't do that. And I think that's maybe as far as any sort of conversation like that ever ah would have happened yeah for you. Did you get a sex talk from your parents, Garrett? I remember at one point I did start to get one.
01:01:12
Speaker
And I quickly was like, I don't want this from my mother right now. So I said, and I remember this, I was in the car with my mom and my sister in the back seat. Wait, your mom decided to have this conversation with you while your sister was also there. She decided this was a conversation Beth had with two children at once. I might have not. Like, honestly, I at this point,
01:01:38
Speaker
Cause my sister and I are four years apart. So I might've been a senior in high school. I might've been a junior. Like it is well beyond maybe, you know, anyway, it happened way too late, but either way it started to happen. And I remember saying me.
01:01:55
Speaker
Maybe you should talk to her. She's the one watching Gilmore Girls where the mom had the daughter way too young so that she could have a best friend. And ah that seems like a problem you should address currently. And then it turned to her. Throw your sister under the bus. But then I didn't have to deal with it. ah So um not I didn't say I was the hero in this story. yeah
01:02:21
Speaker
You're not the hero we need, but you are the hero your sister deserved. And all she did was watch Gilmore. I watched Gilmore Girls, too. Looked fun to have a kid that age. You fast talk. That's true. They are real quippy. Much quicker than me and my mom ever were. I'm going to say it's basically just me and you. Oh, we are them. We are the Gilmore Girls.
01:02:51
Speaker
So we mentioned how she comes home and he's already there talking with the family and she comes in and is like, hey, what are you doing here? And he's like, oh, ah you left your laptop at work. And so they sent me to to bring it to you. And he just happened to just stick around, I guess, instead of just dropping it off and instead chatting it up with dad and the kids, telling them his whole life story about how he was a ah military brat growing up or something like that.
01:03:20
Speaker
I think it was, and. Yeah, yeah. So you might have answered this. I don't know. I thought this scene was really weird because as I was going back and reading kind of plot synopsis of this movie, all of them got to this point and made this seem like this was him being manipulative. But I don't necessarily get that. Like, I think he brought the laptop. I think that was a real story.
01:03:50
Speaker
I think that they were like, come on in. You're all you drove way out because they have two houses. They have a house in the city in New York and they have a country house, which you have to imagine. He drove at least an hour outside of the city to get to this things. They're like, come in, never have a have a juice. We're having breakfast, whatever.
01:04:09
Speaker
Yeah, I genuinely do not think it was, he doesn't read as manipulative in that way. It's definitely not like Glenn Close showing up, right? Where you're immediately like, oh shit, she is here to fuck something up.
01:04:25
Speaker
You know, um instead, it's much more that I got the vibe that he was kind of just young, dumb and kind of curious. Like he wanted to see what her life was like and meet her family. And he didn't. I don't know if he's just that if he's actually that stupid, but he doesn't actually seem like he understood that he did anything wrong.
01:04:47
Speaker
Well, that's I don't even know. That he wanted to do like, I don't think he thinks anything of this like when they're they have a she basically takes him out to the car and they have a she has a conversation like never come near my family again and.
01:05:04
Speaker
He describes their relationship as he's like, I just kind of look us at us as like two kids playing like, I don't think he's not in love with her. He is just a guy having sex. he says He has like no interest in ruining her life. And I believed him, you know, that that he didn't want to ruin her life that he has no interest in destroying her marriage or her career. I didn't think that otherwise.
01:05:29
Speaker
Well, and he says to her, he's like, I'm not looking for a girlfriend. He said, you look like a mom. Like it is pretty insulting. It's really hard for him to say that, but at the same time, like.
01:05:43
Speaker
He's not looking for a girlfriend. You're married. You know, he knows that this isn't going to be a long term commitment. And nicole I think the one gets mad when he's dating. um What's her name? Esme, her assistant. Yeah, yeah her assistant. um She's the one who gets mad and is like, I want you all for myself. And he's like, isn't that your husband over there, which is totally valid?
01:06:10
Speaker
A hundred percent. That's why, like, at a certain point, like, yes, he's weird. But I think a lot of what you're saying, you're right. Like he you can chalk it up to him just being kind of young and an idiot and honestly not really thinking as much about this as she is.
01:06:26
Speaker
Yes, and I think that is absolutely correct that that he isn't thinking about this as much as she is because why would he? He's not the one with a career in a billion dollar company at stake. she He's not the one with ah a husband and two kids and mortgages to pay on your two houses. Of course he's not thinking about any of that. He's just thinking that this is fun and this hot, older lady is showing him a good time Well, and that's where in this scene he tells her that this is the part of the movie where he's she's like, you will not come to my house again. You will not do this. You will not do this. And he's like, wait a minute. I have the power here. He's like, I could ruin your life with one phone call. Yeah. But but at no point did it ever feel like that was a legitimate threat. That was just him saying, like, I could do this. I'm not going to. Why would I like?
01:07:25
Speaker
ah like I don't even really know if he's an asshole as much as he is just kind of an idiot who like has taken on the role of an asshole because that's the sex game he's got up in. and Yes, I think very much that that is true. that he and Because he's not, like I said before, he's not immediately ah comfortable with the role of the dominant. You get the feeling he did some quick Googling and after he figured out like, oh shit, she's gonna be into kinky shit. And he's like, oh, let me find out all I can about BDSM. And he brushed up on it a little bit and he comes in having done his homework like a very good,
01:08:01
Speaker
ah He may have literally just watched nine and a half weeks. Right. He didn like he did a looked at a Reddit thread. Yeah. Because he wants to have sex with the hot older lady that is his CEO. And he will do this because it's what she wants and he wants her to come.
01:08:21
Speaker
Well, and at this point in the movie, it feels like so much has happened, but we've only hit the hour mark of a nearly two hour movie. So it's at this point when they like really ramp up the role play and the like, you will do whatever I say. But once again, it doesn't feel like manipulative. They're just like, he's having to come out to a party and like, yes.
01:08:47
Speaker
It feels like he read more about consent because he does. She's like, what the hell did you just like Google all this shit? And it's like, yeah, I think he did. And and I think he's right to have because he said, like, we need to establish a safe word. We need to establish, you know, um that you will do what I say, because otherwise you're topping from the bottom and that's not acceptable.
01:09:14
Speaker
So when we get to their sexing, because they go out to a ah dance club. ah She meets up there, they end up back at a hotel room. And I love this scene, I think is going to kind of be the iconic scene from the movie where the George Michael song Father Figure plays as he just does this like.
01:09:37
Speaker
awkward white man dance around the room. It is so believable as the drunk 20 something shirtless, just sort of grooving and she's into it. The music cues. I do want to give a shout out to whoever picked the soundtrack for this movie, because the movie goes between two things.
01:10:04
Speaker
dead fucking silence where there is no sound, like there's no score, everything, you're just, you're taking in the orgasms and everything and this is just silent otherwise, or really good songs. They have a Latigre song in there. They used the Robin song, Dancing on My Own at a company Christmas party that made it look fun as hell. Oh, absolutely. Yeah. Also our second erotic thriller to use that song.
01:10:33
Speaker
yeah I think I think the Affleck movie, I think Deepwater might have used it because that's one of the newer movies we've done. And then this like very good use of a George Michael song that I wouldn't ah probably normally listen to, but was like super into the usage of just all of the placement of the songs in this movie.
01:10:56
Speaker
Yeah, it really works. And this is the scene where we get our, ah you know, really iconic shot of her drinking from the saucer of milk that is on the floor. um It works. I thought I thought it was. um This is where she gets full nude. We see she has a six pack like that's what like Pilates, baby. She has the torso of like a 30 year old.
01:11:28
Speaker
um Yeah, choking, kissing, finally have naked sex for the first time. He fingers her mouth hole in a way that is like that was like, damn, like this is this is something that is going to make the new generation uncomfortable in a movie because this is exactly what they don't want to watch on screen. All right.
01:11:52
Speaker
Um. But then after they have. OK, sorry. Next is the birthday party. Oh, but before that is like so. but So let me restart. The words are hard.
01:12:09
Speaker
So after they do that, is that the scene where they're laying in bed together? And he asked her to do like the therapy thing that she does, which is like a pseudo hypnotism thing. And she's like, no, I'm not going to do that. I'm not a therapist. And then he asks her to hold him. And that's one of the really interesting times where you start to see like, oh, and I think that's another example of the fact that like, this isn't his natural role. This isn't what he really wants.
01:12:39
Speaker
this is something he's doing to please her um because some part of him really does want to be held by a mother figure and I think that's so interesting and I really wish they could have gotten more into that that actually maybe he's even secretly a submissive himself in many ways like or at least that he's switch and like that's a side of him that if he were with someone other than her he could explore Yeah, because we don't really see a lot of real moments between them. It's a lot of negotiating and then just the sex acts and like right before the sex acts where we're working on getting to them. Yeah. So, yeah. um Sorry, we because it's our birthday, we might have been drinking a little bit and.
01:13:36
Speaker
A thought just popped into my head of something that's mentioned at the beginning of the movie by her assistant. That is an odd moment that never comes up again about her history and where she came from and how she was where she's raised in cults.
01:13:53
Speaker
Yeah, and that does come back when she's talking to her husband when it, you know, when it all comes out and she's like, maybe it's because of how I was raised in like the trauma of her childhood is why she has these desires. um And ah it is so bizarre that it is just like tossed off like, oh, by the way, she was in a cult. What? yeah What do you mean? that Yeah that felt huge where it like almost ended up feeling throw away there's a couple moments that end up being a little throw away to her husband is a theater director like on broadway and and after the first time she cheats on.
01:14:34
Speaker
him or maybe she just kisses the boy or whatever. She's feeling guilty and she goes to visit her husband at the theater and he's feeling awkward about like, he's like, whoa, what you're here? He said the last time you came here was 1987 when you thought I was cheating. Yeah. Yeah. Which goes to show some of the fault lines in the marriage, right? That she's clearly not, um, you know,
01:15:01
Speaker
taking enough of an interest in his work or supporting him yeah in the way that he supports her, you know that clearly he is irrelevant in her life, just like he was afraid that he is. And at the start of that scene, though, just because you know we like to talk about Pei Pei's gun, ah it did start with a lady shooting a gun like right down the barrel of the camera. And I don't even know at that point if we knew he was a play director.
01:15:32
Speaker
And we're just on stage with that gun shooting. So my brain kept thinking like he does have access to a gun. And I feel like that was a reminder where as the movie gets further down, where we do hit the climax of this movie, the potential of danger was still there, even though it goes more in a humorous direction. Yeah. So we should get to how this all comes out, I suppose.
01:16:02
Speaker
um So next is the birthday party where he shows up to my super sweet 16 with the assistant as his date. Nicole Kidman kind of freaks out. ah She wants them all to herself. They break a plate when Esme walks in as they're fighting with each other. And it's pretty clear that she understands immediately what's going on. And then yeah, he's going to be in trouble. And once again,
01:16:32
Speaker
I think like multiple things I read made it seem like this scene was him being manipulative. But I could also see like he's kind of dating her assistant or whatever this this lady's job is. She invites him to this thing. He I get the feeling that that he wasn't even going to be invited to this thing that she was like she invites her yeah to come to her daughter's birthday or whatever. And obviously she's like, oh, I'll bring the guy I'm dating who also works at this company. It'll be good for him as an intern to get more, and you know, FaceTime with the boss. This is great for his career.
01:17:10
Speaker
You know, i'm I'm doing him a solid. And what is he going to do? Say, no, I'm not going to come because I'm also having sex with her and she'll get freaked out if she sees me. Yeah. And she literally does say she does say in dialogue, like, I hope that's okay. I brought him.
01:17:27
Speaker
Like I know, like you invited me. I hope it's okay. I brought him. It didn't give the vibe of he asked to come. You know, I didn't get any vibe of manipulation there. And he is allowed to date her. He's married for God's sake. Yeah.
01:17:44
Speaker
I feel like a lot of people have been in that situation though where you have a partner and there's another person that you're interested in that isn't dating anybody, but deep down inside you're like, I don't want you to ever date anybody. I want you to live constantly mooning over me. Yeah. I've never done that. No, but I understand the feeling. I get it.
01:18:10
Speaker
No, no, no, like, you know, at least like a smaller version where you're like, oh man, well I am with somebody, that makes sense, they're allowed to. But you were my backup option. You you were plan B. You were my plan B. I was expecting you to stick around forever. You exist on this earth. You be my plan B.
01:18:39
Speaker
All right, so the assistant comes to her and this is a fascinating scene all on its own, where she's like, I need to talk to you about this. I know what's going on. I have no interest in destroying you. But you have to stop this.
01:18:57
Speaker
This is this, if I found out other people are going to find out it's going to ruin everything. They're one of the only female CEOs out here. I need you to be the better version of yourself, the version of you that I can look up to. And I don't want you to give me a promotion just because I have something I can hold over you. I have again, no interest in destroying you. I just need this to stop. And I need you to actually finally give me that promotion that you've been talking about forever, just because that's what I deserve. And.
01:19:28
Speaker
Yeah, it works like i i I bought it. This is to me the start of the third act sticking the landing on this movie in a way that made it a better movie. Absolutely. I think the whole third act elevates this movie in a way where I did not necessarily enjoy the second act, but I wasn't I didn't feel like I was headed towards a movie where I'm like, oh, this is a good movie. Like, this is a movie I'm going to tell people you should see.
01:20:01
Speaker
But the third act bumps it up that extra little step where I, and this is absolutely the start of that for me. Yeah, the way this gets revealed is so interesting and that she's like, you need to be a better person, be the the the badass female CEO we need you to be, and stop fucking an intern. And it's kind of the wake up call that she needed, you know? Stop doing dumb man shit um and be my fucking hero again.
01:20:28
Speaker
Right, and it works. She, you know, sends that guy off to Japan or whatever. But that's later. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So we're yeah we're close to that part. um But she confesses to her husband. She realizes that she's going to have to do this.
01:20:49
Speaker
because this meeting is at her house. So she's been told this in her own living room. Assistant fucks off after that and she is sitting distraught with her thoughts in the living room. Husband comes in and she spills the beans.
01:21:06
Speaker
Well, partially spilled the beans. She can't bring herself to say, yeah, it's that guy you met. And it was multiple times. Instead, she says it's someone you don't know. It was one time. And oh, it's so more upset. Yeah, it's a soften the blow. That's a huge lie.
01:21:26
Speaker
Cause if, man, if Antonio saw what happened to her, I don't know if he'd ever recover. No, he would never, he would never recover from seeing that shot of her face as she's laying on that filthy motel floor. Not, not like Keith Urban giving himself a self high five.
01:21:48
Speaker
He's like, I'm going to write a song about this that CMT can never play. This is for Keith. yeah
01:22:02
Speaker
So, yeah, she confesses sort of and he sort of rightly turns it back around on her and is like, what do you mean? Why are you trying to tell me that this is like somehow due to your childhood or your hang ups or whatever? Like none of that makes what you did OK. Why would you do this? Why would you risk our family and and do this to our children? And he's 100 percent correct. And it's a really powerhouse monologue. Yeah. Yeah. like ah a very great moment where in the moment, him delivering a monologue like that that isn't, he never goes over the line really with anything he says, he just delivers facts, like undeniable facts for the most part, if i if I'm remembering correctly.
01:22:50
Speaker
Yeah, and he tells her to get out. And she does. She goes off. Goes to their cool country house. Their cool country house. That's the benefit of having two houses is when your husband kicks you out, you got a place to go. I love that she gets to her country house. She's there five minutes, looks outside and just a hot little piece of ass boyfriend is just swimming in her pool. Yep. And once again,
01:23:20
Speaker
I don't know if he knew she was there. Like, he knows a lady with a pool and she's not home. No, this is one of the few times where I'm going to disagree with you on this one. Okay, okay. Yes, he did know that she was probably coming there. He was a ghoul the whole time. He was a ghoul the whole time. Stupid Malice.
01:23:46
Speaker
And so she's like, this is this has got to end. We're not doing this anymore. It's all got to go downhill. And that's, of course, exactly when Antonio Ben Dittus comes in and he's like, wait a minute, you were fucking him. And he realizes he's been lied to twice. And that really stings.
01:24:06
Speaker
the vibe of the scene when he walks in and boyfriend is trying to calm him down and like touching his arm. And he's like, don't fucking touch me. And you feel it. You feel it. Don't fucking touch Antonio Banderas right now. Don't fucking touch him. Don't touch it.
01:24:26
Speaker
Yeah, the fight between them is very realistic in that the younger man absolutely kicks his ass and the whole fight looks really messy and it cuts to ah Nicole Kidman bringing both of them ice packs. It's very funny. And this is maybe the most Christmasy moment is her two lovers having to ice their battle wounds with a Christmas tree beautifully staged between them.
01:24:57
Speaker
And there's some really interesting dialogue in this scene, too, where ah the Antonio Banderas tries to say yeah that ah female masochism is just a male fantasy. It's not real. And ah the boyfriend says like that's outdated or that's an outdated way of thinking. That was the best thing he said, the whole movie. Yeah.
01:25:25
Speaker
and And I think it does does make him cry, but I think it goes along with the themes, right? Of, of being, you know, okay with being replaced is like, you have to be okay with your old ideas being replaced as well. You have to be able to take in new information when it comes to you. You have to be able to rethink things you thought were true.
01:25:49
Speaker
And one of those is his idea of with female sexuality, which is a thing that like generations upon generations have had to deal with is changing sexual mores and changing sexual attitudes. And you just got to, you got to roll with it. The time is going to move on without you. People use different pronouns now and your gay people want to be out in the open and you're just going to have to Fucking get over it. You're gonna have to, you know, reevaluate the things you thought were true. And you know what? He does. He does. Because also like Antonio is a fucking theater kid at heart in this movie. He gets it. He's around Broadway people all day. He realized that he is a big boy man in charge and he's going to order you around. He will do that.
01:26:49
Speaker
And scene. Yes, we end with another orgasm. ah She is on her stomach and ah we are back to to to to him making her come. And it actually is that more guttural, realistic animal sort of.
01:27:09
Speaker
uh orgasm sound and also she is picturing uh her boyfriend with yeah the dog with with that dog and i thought that was fascinating yes you are allowed to think about other people while you're having sex it's not a big deal don't worry about it She also ah has one of the big men at her office, makes a president of the company or something, yeah like making some veiled remarks about how, you know, this intern's gone and that's a good thing for you, isn't it? And like, maybe you want to come by my house and she says, if I wanted someone to humiliate me, I'd pay them for it.
01:27:52
Speaker
get out and don't talk to me about this ever again. And it's like, hell yeah, girl boss, but in a good way, like in a real way where she's like, she's not as fragile before she was so tightly wound that like, anything could topple her over, anything could make her snap. And now she is getting more sex.
01:28:15
Speaker
better sex so all her problems are fixed why did she need therapy all she needed was better sex so i i remember ah even after seeing it twice i don't remember does it end on the president of the company scene or does it end on the no it ends on the orgasm it ends on the orgasm where the orgasm She's face down, her face is covered.
Exploring Themes of Vulnerability and Power in Erotic Thrillers
01:28:38
Speaker
She's imagining him taming the dog. But the last like real bit of dialogue, her saying that to the president, because we do find out earlier when in the first meeting she has, like the first mentor meeting with Samuel, which I had to look up his name now.
01:28:55
Speaker
two viewings at the end of each movie. I said to myself, what the fuck was that character's name? I could not remember either while I was watching it. When she checks her phone, it pops up with Samuel. I'm like, oh, is that his name? Yeah, we find out she got the job because she had to go through like six rounds of interviews with all these people. And she they asked her the how many ping pong balls would fill this room.
01:29:22
Speaker
And she told him to go fuck themselves and got up to leave. And then they hired her and her telling him to go fuck himself again. Was awesome, but he knows that that's how she is, but ending it.
01:29:37
Speaker
with just that if I wanted to be humiliated, I'd fucking pay for it. Like it's joke that she's like reclaimed her power in multiple ways and that by by being able to be because that's another theme that is mentioned multiple times. Like she's when she's giving some announcement to the company and she uses the word weakness, like we're going to, you know,
01:29:59
Speaker
get rid of our weakness or something like that. And they're like, no, vulnerability scene is seen as a good thing now. And that's absolutely what she was missing this whole time is because she couldn't just be vulnerable with her own damn husband and tell him what she wanted. She was living this.
01:30:17
Speaker
ah incomplete existence, I guess she was living this this very highly strong, you know, everything and I think that's also the thing about like the fact that she works in robotics, right? Like robots are perfect, especially the ones they show in this movie, they're all in like this intricate ballet, and they're all shiny and new.
01:30:37
Speaker
And beautifully shot. Oh, yeah, it really is. And she is this flawed human being with a flawed human body and hang ups from her childhood, which ultimately aren't all that important. Right. Like you are what you are. And that's OK. And she's most powerful when she can accept that about herself. that Like, yes, I am. I don't have the body of a 22 year old.
01:31:06
Speaker
And I'm I have these sexual desires that may come from some trauma or may just be what I'm into. Either way, it doesn't really need to weigh me down, you know? Yeah, man, the discussion that came out of this movie.
01:31:25
Speaker
is I don't think what either of us would have expected to get out of a movie like this. yeah And if we can keep getting this level of erotic thriller for the next few years, like people who grew up on the movies that we're watching, making their own now is such an exciting time, especially when it's ah such a competent filmmaker.
01:31:50
Speaker
yes absolutely because then they can comment on the tropes of the genre right like you can have him show back up at the house in a moment that seems like it could be Glenn Close like about to invade your family but it's not it can play with your expectations you think everything's gonna come tumbling down but actually she's stronger and better off at the end than she was at the beginning and You know, I'm not saying that like she's allowed to be flawed in such interesting ways, too. And I find that so refreshing. I feel like I don't give a shit if people are like, oh, well, she's doing a bad thing by fucking an intern. Of course she is. Yes, she is doing a bad thing. She should not fuck an intern. But I don't need characters to be perfect. I don't want them to be perfect.
01:32:40
Speaker
I want them to do things that are heinous sometimes and learn from it. That's what being human is. like This movie is all about the ways in which we are flawed, fucked up people who make bad decisions sometimes. And that doesn't mean your life needs to be ruined because of it.
01:33:01
Speaker
which is so the opposite of every erotic thriller from the 90s and 80s, where it's like, you fucked up, your life's ruined. Goodbye. Good night. You and everyone you know will die. It's a, yeah, we, your dog dead, your best friend dead. We get a lot of similar stories, uh, and that makes for the fun, goofy conversations. But then you get a movie like this that,
01:33:27
Speaker
ah Instead of, you know, occasionally I bring up Keith Urban and how he feels, but you get more actual analysis than you get of a real movie. I was just like it gave me a lot of interesting thoughts while I was having it about like how do I feel about my own I mean, I'm only in my 30s, but like I have all kinds of anxieties about growing older and becoming Irrelevant to society because society decides that like oh once you're not of a fuckable age You are worthless to us and that sucks It sucks a lot. And so yeah, I definitely
01:34:08
Speaker
connected with the movie because of that and connected with the characters because of it. And that's not something that usually happens when we're watching an erotic thriller.
Nudity as Metaphor and Film Analysis
01:34:18
Speaker
Yeah. I mean, very few of them that we've done have been written and directed by women we did in the cut and off the top of my head. That's the only one that's immediately coming to me. I might be missing one. um Do you think it's interesting, though, that
01:34:37
Speaker
Helena Raine, we do only see Nicole Kidman in this. we This man done doesn't show us cheeks, neither does Antonio. We're still only getting female nudity in a way that is, I mean, basically like the majority of these, like other than in the cut, which actually did show us a penis, the the one that a lady made. yeah I do because the nudity in this is very much designed to be a metaphor. like yeah Yeah, naked for him. It is for a specific reason. It's and it if not is purposeful. Yes, there's not much reason to have him be naked other than you want to look at this.
01:35:22
Speaker
You want to look at the sass because I know you do because he isn't ever vulnerable to that extent with her and neither is Antonio Banderas. So like make a sequel where we investigate that guy who who's off working for Kawasaki or whatever they said his new internship was.
01:35:41
Speaker
And he figures out his shit. and He gets sent to Japan. Literally, he is gone from the country. But no, you're right. Like of any movie we have watched thus far, this might be the most purposeful nudity. Like most the only nudity even maybe that was essential to plot. Essential to plot and character development. Yeah. Wow.
01:36:10
Speaker
Damn, good job, Alina Rain. Yeah, seriously, and great job to Nicole Kidman as well for for being able to portray such an interesting character.
01:36:24
Speaker
who who is going through so much shit and it all shows on her face. There are so many close-ups on her face and you can see her feeling all the things that she is feeling and the thoughts that she is thinking without her ever having to say them. It's all very obviously written across her face.
01:36:44
Speaker
much in the way Tom Cruise doesn't. There are so many shots of him walking through the streets of New York and you're like, I think he's supposed to be thinking thoughts, but he is not.
01:36:59
Speaker
ah I did think though, I know in the eyes wide shot one, I said something ah to the the effect of Tom Cruise never did another drama again. He actually did make another movie that was kind of an erotic thriller. I actually would say it is an erotic thriller that I fucking love. And I feel like we got to throw it out there. um Vanilla Sky. Oh, shoot. Is that an erotic thriller? I haven't seen it in so long.
01:37:27
Speaker
There's murder, there's eroticism. There's- Are we doing that next? Are we are we just on ah on ah Nicole Kidman and Tom Cruise? like Well, I will tell but I'll give the audience that as of now, we only have one more movie, like actual planned. Everything else is going to be a little on the fly. But Wednesday, ah the 5th of February, we are going to be doing the Lou Diamond Phillips directed and starring film Dangerous Touch because it will be the anniversary of the day the music died.
01:38:07
Speaker
You know, Eddie was a big bopper. This is the best tribute we could come up with. This is the best
Film Direction and Emotional Thrill Discussion
01:38:15
Speaker
tribute. This is the best tribute. The man that was in La Bamba wrote, he directed and starred in an erotic thriller. And to celebrate the day the music died, we will do dangerous touch. Which is not a thing we could celebrate.
01:38:32
Speaker
It's like saying you're celebrating Pearl Harbor Day. Like you don't celebrate it. You memorialize it. You memorialize it. Fuck. Hey. We've been recording for an hour, 45 minutes. We'll see how this gets added, but just know we've recorded that long. We had to do the award stuff before we hit record. I've been drinking a while. And now after all of this serious analysis of a good movie, a movie that I'll tell you on a second viewing.
01:39:05
Speaker
I liked it the first time. I loved it the second viewing. This was a movie that hit harder the second viewing where I was actually sitting there with my notes, you know, taking notes as I watched the movie, but it's still, I don't know, it played different a second time where I was just taking in shots and taking in the story, there's a lot of elements of the movie that just are really masterfully done in a way that we aren't used to. we are not from you were We didn't even know how starved we were until someone gave us a banquet feast. Well, that's even, um fuck, what's the the name of, um what's our gut? Yeah, like even an Adrian line who is technically you know like the master of this genre with the most
01:39:56
Speaker
You know, I don't, I don't know if they're necessarily the best ones, probably at least top tier ones that have made money under his belt. Like this is just visibly a better filmmaker. But that doesn't mean we can't subject it to the same criteria that we always do. So Garrett, scale of one to five, were you aroused?
01:40:22
Speaker
On a scale of one to five, I give it a big old Keith Urban yee-haw. That's not a number. I've been drinking for like two hours. Yee-haw. It's one, two, three, four, five yee-haw. I'm in Nashville, kid. You're in Chicago. What what ah is it? One, two, three, four, five da bears up there? what the It is actually.
01:40:48
Speaker
But yeah, me and Keith Urban later are gonna go hang out, eat some hot chicken, down at Kid Rock's Big Ass Honky Tonks. And self-high five each other. We both high five ourselves next to each other at Kid Rock. Oh, okay. Sure, sure, sure. And no, no, no. I hate now being like, this movie, boops. Listen, the erotic scenes,
01:41:16
Speaker
worked, I would say like I have to dock at a point for no male nudity, you know, ah but it has to fit the same criteria, you know, like just because it's it's potentially an award winning art film. Yeah, it doesn't mean we can't also be mad. We can get some schlong. So I give it a four out of five. And I give it whatever Yeehaw with Keith Urban is. Sure, sure, sure.
01:41:46
Speaker
that shot of her, like where you're literally no nudity. But just such a unique moment. There's few of these movies that we get a unique camera angle or something that separates it from the rest. With Bound, what puts it in the Hall of Fame is, I mean, in that they do that circular shot during the sex scene. ah yes Where we did it so that the fucking dirtbag producer couldn't cut it add more nudity in later, because he'd fuck up a beautiful shot.
01:42:18
Speaker
That's such a cool piece. And to make an orgasm like Sex in the City in New York, that orgasm was a character in the movie. No, that was that was awesome and hot. So, yay yeah, yeah. All right. Garrett, scale of one to five, were you thrilled? So Going to be low. However, the third act does give you the sense that something might happen. I was like, like we kind of talked about this. She teeters on the edge. She teeters on the edge of something bad happening multiple times. But I never thought anyone was going to fuck her life up because I didn't get the vibe from the character. That just he didn't seem vindictive.
01:43:06
Speaker
And neither did the in or the assistant. When she she never had the vibe that she was going to be a grasping, ambitious, like horrible bitch who wanted to ruin this woman's life. Like you never got that vibe from her either. The only people who might ruin her life would be HR or yeah ah one of the douchebag men that work at the office that would have been happy to see her tumble so that they could take her spot. But that didn't happen.
01:43:34
Speaker
It didn't and then like the part where they're fighting, where the the music changes or maybe the music completely disappeared and it was just another silent moment in the movie. I don't really remember off the top of my head but I know the vibe changed momentarily where I didn't really want there to be a dumb moment where now husband and wife have to dispose of a body that they accidentally killed.
01:43:58
Speaker
But it didn't not seem on the table in that moment. So if you're watching like a seismograph going, it definitely peaked at thrilling during that fight where the fear was there. But I might still go one and a half. Like it's still a low fear for me. that my yeah I think it was higher for me because of the the anxieties that I was like attaching and connecting to. um The fear of the humiliation and some of that was just like maybe on a second watching, I wouldn't have that feeling because I know that that's not the tact that the movie is going to take, that it's not going to embarrass her and humiliate her and make her feel bad for being
01:44:46
Speaker
a woman in her fifties who wants to have sex, goddamn it. Like, but for me, I would put it at like a two and a half, I think. Yeah, yeah, no, I think that's that's all emotional drills, all like. But there were times when I was like squirming in my seat because I was like, no, please don't have anything that I can't handle it.
01:45:09
Speaker
And honestly, from what you said at the beginning of this podcast, we started talking about this movie. I almost expected you just from the personal level of it to go higher. So I'm kind of surprised two and a half. That's a. I would say, yeah, two and a half or three um just because like.
01:45:28
Speaker
You know, I can't put it on the level of, you know, the Nazi walk in notorious merry go round in an attic. round attic. There's no ghoul as Garrett would call him.
01:45:42
Speaker
Yeah, it didn't get to idiotic levels of just like ah erotic thriller schlock. Like it didn't hit the levels of why we started this podcast to begin with. And would you ruin your life for Sam the Intern?
01:46:00
Speaker
Sam the intern, no, not my type. But here's the thing, apparently he's a master manipulator. And if I got a look at that that tattoo of a cherub with a ski mask and an AK-47, I'd be like, what does he know that I don't?
01:46:19
Speaker
No, I wouldn't. I didn't really like him. I didn't think the actor was bad, but also maybe that's a knock on the material he was given to work with that like in this movie, it's the dude who's not like. Fleshed very much to like. Yeah. And like he's not what I would look for in a Dom type guy, if that's what I'm looking for. Like I wouldn't look for a 22 year old who doesn't who's seem like he's ever done this before or know what he's doing. Uh, so I would not ruin my life for Sam, the intern. If I'm a high powered CEO and Sam, the intern is hired, I don't think I'm ruining my life for him. How familiar were you with him prior to this movie? Not at all. So I'm looking up his filmography right now. And was he the lead in that? Okay. He was.
01:47:13
Speaker
So he was in ah the lead in a British movie I watched last year that was really good called Scrapper. never um About a dad that is kind of a scumbag but finds out that he had a kid a long time ago but was never able to see her and is trying to reconnect with a daughter he like knew he had but wasn't allowed to see and that was great. But that was also a movie of him like kind of being a good dad. So I guess in my mind, and he was in the Von Erich movie, The Iron Claw from A24 where ripped his shit, but with a Lord Farquaad haircut. So how sexy is he really? I don't know. I guess I just look at him as a good actor now. Shit. All right, but would you ruin your life for Nicole Kidman? Hell yeah. Hell yeah. Hell yeah. Are you kidding me?
01:48:09
Speaker
All I got if what's going to ruin my life is a punch in the face from sad Antonio Banderas. I can take that all day, ma'am. That's a good point. Yeah, that's fair. And I'll yeah also be uncomfortable dominating somebody.
01:48:23
Speaker
ah
01:48:26
Speaker
You know, I just need a pocket for a little Werther's originals. And what else do I need? I don't know. You need to be a dog whisperer. So work on that. No, like if anything, I would be giving her too many compliments. Like you're obviously a beautiful lady. Like this is insane that you are self-conscious about this because you don't need to be like, honestly, I would be the opposite of dominating. I would be such a little, little just like, you Hey, it's okay. You're beautiful.
01:48:58
Speaker
No, you don't you don't have to do that to me. ah It's fine. I'll just do it to you. What do you want? What do you want? Yeah, I can't deny that I would ah i would ruin my life for Nicole Kim and sure. Yeah. Yeah. You're done good, Keith Urban. You're done good. Fuck. One year anniversary in the book. yeah A24 gives us two good movies in one year. Not just movies, but two erotic thrillers in a year. lucky
01:49:29
Speaker
And I love that A24 is dipping their toes into this and hopefully seeing that we like it enough that we kind of keep the genre alive because- Absolutely.
A24's Impact and Podcast Reflections
01:49:39
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Yeah. There's so, it shows that there's so much you can do with the genre, and so much more than just what it started as in the schlock of the eighties, you know, where it's just there to so much more with it. You can have really interesting conversations about sex and power and relationships. And I'm here for all of that as well as for the Schlock. I love it all. Yeah. A24. I love that you're giving Helena Raine the camera and a pen and letting her do this. But also maybe find an idiot. Maybe find
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Like I need equal opportunity between good and bad filmmakers because this is an area where bad filmmakers used to thrive. Good point. Yeah. We're going to have to follow this up with something from Papa G's treasure chested dog shit. You got to have balance. You can't hit me with fucking Stanley Kubrick and then this piece of art ah that I enjoyed thoroughly. Yeah, you're right. You're gonna have to go digger. Some for y'all to look forward to. All right, Garrett, send us some. Hey, everybody. Thanks so much for listening. EroticThrillerClub at gmail dot.com. Questions, comments, concerns at EroticThrillerClub if you want to hit us up on Instagram. Also, why didn't any of you listen to the Reindeer Games episode? It was such a hilarious drop off on downloads.
01:51:13
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for the reindeer games one that I thought we lost our whole audience. I thought like so few people listened to the reindeer games episode, I thought it was a computer glitch. But y'all came back hard for Eyes Wide Shut, where you just yelled in our face, we don't want reindeer games. And I love you, but you're fucking stupid.
01:51:37
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I've been drinking for two hours kidding. It was a goo. It was a goo. So tell your friends, maybe not about this one, because Garrett's going to yell at him. But the like, subscribe, rate, review, blah, blah, blah, all that good shit. Tell a friend. ah We always love having new people in the club. Garrett. It's a new year, baby. Do you have a a do you have any erotic um ah resolutions?
01:52:06
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Do I have none that I'm willing to talk about on camera? Well, as always, my ah my resolution is to cry less and come more. All right. Hey, hey. Kidmans, maybe that'll be hers after, ah you know, she finishes out the her holiday season. Try less, come more. Love it.
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It's actually a tagline for a movie written by an idiot. ah ah All right, everybody. Happy New Year. We love you. Thank you for spending a year with us. This has been fun as hell. And I can't wait to do it for another year, kid. I love you to death. And I love you too, Garrett. This podcast existed for two friends to get to hang out and watch dumb shit together. And it turns out we got to watch some beautiful shit too.
01:52:54
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um Wet your snails. We want to shake you naked, need you alive. Have a good week.