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Hider In The House (1989)
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What more do you need to know about this movie other than it stars Gary Busey and has a title that once you say it you can't stop saying it?
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Introduction to the Erotic Thriller Club
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Ladies, gentlemen, folks beyond the binary, grab your husband, wife, partner, mistress, a piece of your secret crush's mediocre art, and gather around the radio.
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It's time for this week's meeting of The Erotic Thriller Club.
Exploring 'Hide Her in the House'
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Being a mom is one of the hardest jobs there is. Being a hot mom with a freshly released from the mental institution Gary Busey living in a secret room he built inside your attic is even harder.
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Can hot-ass Mimi Rogers resist the temptation to court her unwanted homicidal house guest? This week on the Erotic Thriller Club, hide her in the house.
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Hey, everybody. Welcome to this week's Meet into the Erotic Thriller Club. As always, Garrett Callender and Kit Ryan here. And this is where we answer the genre's three most important questions.
Mix of Humor and Personal Stories
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Was I aroused? Was I thrilled? And would I ruin my life for this person? Oh boy, Garrett. We're back, baby. We're back. You lost your voice. I lost my voice.
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Things were terrible. I was snowed in for like, a i'm not snow, iced in for a week and a half. I lived in ah one of those hell parts of where that giant penis shaped ice storm destroyed part of the country. Just penetrated the middle of America.
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Thrilling, arousing because of the shape. I think I got hit somewhere around the balls of it. It definitely ruined your life for a week. So there you go. I don't know if I'd recommend it though.
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We're coming back strong um with a movie that what it lacks in eroticism, it makes up for in the best title I've ever heard in my life.
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It's such a strange title. As a native speaker of English, this doesn't feel like a phrase that would ever come out of my mouth, right? Like this seems like something that was put through Google Translate about six or seven times, and this is what it spat out.
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Because it doesn't, it doesn't come, it doesn't, it rolls off the tongue in a strange way. Yeah. what do they What was it like that the the most perfect phrase words? Cellar door. Cellar door. Heider in the house. Heider in the house. Heider in the house. Heider in the house.
00:03:18
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That's my new one. Amazing poster. Oh, the poster's fantastic. But misleading because Busey in the picture is outside of the house.
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And then a photo of him outside of the house with a tagline directly on top of him that says, you can't lock him out. He's already in.
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Yeah, I feel like the the person who came up with the poster was a genius and the person who came up with the tagline was a genius, but they didn't collaborate.
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So just so you all know, this movie stars Gary Busey, Mimi Rogers, Michael
Scripted or Improvised? A Debate
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McKean. Oh, and I love Michael McKean so, so, so much.
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A legend. Absolute legend. Comedy genius. The movie was written by Lim Dobs.
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who Who is that? Also, are you sure? There were parts of this movie that I was convinced were not written at all that seemed like a, you know, you know Garrett, you you were in college once. You remember student films where like the director would just be like, okay, so like, ah you know, in this scene, like you two are mad at each other. So you're having a fight. ah Just like, go, go, go. Because they didn't really give a shit.
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That wasn't the point. They weren't writers. They were just trying to make a student film. And they they just relied on you to come up with the dialogue. This felt like that in many cases.
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Lackluster with a deadline. Yeah. Yeah. that Yes. i I don't know. I think there is a certain charm to this movie. And maybe it's because I can only, i think in my mind, call Gary Busey the hider in the house. Oh my God. No, I think the beats were written out and plotted, but like the individual lines of dialogue were very, very lame in many cases.
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There's a part where ah Michael McKean is like, all right, family, let's go for pizza. What do you like on your pizza to his own children who are like 11 and six and five?
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Like, what do you mean? What do you like on your pizza? There's some definite. He is a questionable parent. You know what? That's true. Maybe this is the the the this classic late 80s parenting that he just doesn't know his own children.
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ah You know who would know what they like on their pizza? The hider in the house. The hider in the house absolutely knows what they like on their pizza. I think that what's funny about him is that this movie, like none of his motivation seems sexual. It seems that he just wants this family to be his family. Yeah. I'm not even convinced that he wants to take Michael McKean's place necessarily. I'm not convinced he necessarily even wants to be the husband of the family because at one point when all the kids are saying goodnight to their mom, he also says night mom, like to himself.
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I
Lem Dobbs' Influence: Real or Not?
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think you part of him wants to be one of the kids of this family. it's his She's mommy. And honestly, Mimi Rogers is mommy. let me tell you what this man has written.
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So his guy his name is Lem Dobbs. This was the first film he wrote in 1989. But going through his his career, it's kind of funny. Dark City.
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The Alex Proyas movie. ah The Limey, he wrote, which Soderbergh directed. Wow. He did the score with De Niro and ah Ed Norton. And also in that movie, famously, because the movie was directed by Frank Oz and famously um Brando. Brando? Wait, wait, wait, what? Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. The person who wrote Hider in the House also wrote a movie with Brando in it?
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Well, in that movie, famously, Brando would only refer to Frank Oz as Miss Piggy, and it was a very problem set. That sounds like the Marlon Brando I know.
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The Soderbergh movie Haywire. And then as you go up to movies, John Travolta's Gotti. Wow. so So he either hits like out of the park or he completely whiffs it, huh?
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So I think he doesn't have a lot of misses after Hyder in the house. So I think that him doing Gotti is him going back to his roots. That's beautiful in a way.
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And he he did a rewrite, it says, on SWAT, which I like to call Dr. Pepper the movie because there's so much advertisement. But, okay, I want to say this movie- That's how feel the Waffle House Superman. LAUGHTER ah We're still Waffle House with Superman.
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This movie opens with Artisan Entertainment, which I think is a perfect name for a company that would make a movie like this. Because when I hear Artisan, it makes me think of a misshapen pizza that we're just going to call Artisan or Rustic. Rustic. and Yes. It makes me think of mediocre pottery.
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Yes! Yeah! Yeah! Oh my God, that pottery scene. I'm full on the husband's side in that scene. How dare you, sir? How dare you? You should know better as a husband that you need to support your wife's weird hobbies.
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Did you clock any other ah notable people in the um opening credits before we move on? No, should I have? Costume designer Colleen Atwood. No!
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Really? Legend! Absolute legend! She dirtied up a robe or something for this movie. Yeah, was gonna say, there's nothing all that particularly notable about the clothes. I assume Busey showed up in whatever he was wearing that day, honestly.
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so hit Hit us with the the beginning of this. Right, right,
Character Backstory and Motivations
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right. so where we We open with um some weird sort of choral music. Very strange.
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And a stereotypical abusive dad voice yelling about, you know, the food's bad and the house isn't clean. You know, that sort of thing. While there's ominous black and white photos on the screen of like a house and evidence from a police file. And then like the abusive dad voice ah is yelling at the mom and you hear like this kid, Tommy getting like dragged out from like a closet and and beaten. And according to the police files that are on screen, this ah Tommy burned the house down.
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There's like things of like arson photos and stuff like that. He burned the house down with his parents in it and he was locked up in a mental institution.
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for 18 years which i initially misread as him being released at age 18 and the picture of gary bucey attached to the file made me laugh hysterically thinking that this old ass man was supposed to be 18 years old but no he was locked up for 18 years so he went in at 15 and he's out at 33 and that that is our opening credits yeah just in time to get some murder and done You basically described Bender from the Breakfast Club's backstory if Molly Ringwald hadn't given him an earring. Yeah. like
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yeah He was that earring away from burning his house down with his dad And I did appreciate the attention to detail that like there's like they show a police photo of the kid with like cigarette burns Dotting his arm. And they did give Gary Busey the same burns on his arm in in as an adult. So like, you know. And the same complex as Frankenstein. yeah
00:11:37
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And so like you see loves, but he's got a real love hate with fire in this movie. Yes, absolutely. Because, well, you know, I think he loves fire. He just hates cigarettes, but then he smokes cigarettes, which I thought he would have an aversion to. But he just doesn't like when people are waving their cigarettes around and he nearly kills the guy at the front desk in the strange.
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I want to say like hostile type situation he's staying at. um because the guy's waving his cigarette around and it pisses Gary Busey off. And so he nearly chokes him to death.
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um So he's not adjusting great to life on the outside. He clearly was not set up for success. The hospital's sending him some money, but he they did not set him up with a job.
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i doubt they taught him about how to like make sure his bills are paid and you know any of the things you would need to transition from going...
Unexpected College Roommate Tales
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from a 15-year-old institutionalized until the age of 33. There's a lot of life skills that you are missing there. Clearly, in like they show he does not know how to drive.
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well i had a I don't know if I've ever talked about that on here. I had a schizophrenic roommate in college that was randomly appointed to us. and That's funny. I had an OCD roommate randomly appointed to me in college.
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College is funny like that. had traded... ah So my guy like knives. um but he No. day one Like just as far as handling money day one, his parents gave him like money for the semester. And on day one, he spent all of his money.
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on a pair of boots, a pair of Timberlands, two gallons of goat's milk, which he had never tried before and whole unprepared fish, like a scales, like of it. But you lived in a dorm. Did you even have a microwave?
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This was ah ah a college apartment, like the dorm apartment. So there was a kitchen. We had a full kitchen and everything. And he takes one sip of the goat's milk spits it out and says, this crap sucks. Very Beavis and Butthead. And then I watched him pour two gallons of goat's milk down the drain. He didn't ask if you wanted it?
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I didn't. Okay.
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Like that feels like a deleted scene from Busey where like now he burned all of his money on the goat's milk. And now he has to go find a new place to live.
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This scene. Yeah. Cause he didn't know how to cash the check that the hospital sent him. He asks the guy at the front desk, like, can you cash the check for me? And the dude's like, no, I'm not a fucking bank.
00:14:27
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Duh. and Yeah. I love though, that our next scene is just Busey, like boop, boop, booping through a neighborhood while just striking matches.
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Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. He's having fun playing with matches. Yeah. ah We see him talking to his therapist, though, first, talking about how like this is his second to last session that's mandatory, and we're going to, you know, how you how you doing on your own out here? And Busey's like, uh,
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it's fine. You know, got dreams for myself to live in a house someday. i want to live in a house. He's got house dreams. Big house dreams. Big house dreams. Because he currently lives in- Not Hyder dreams. In- I cannot properly describe that shithole that he is currently staying in. But, like, there's, like, a match- It like pay-by-the-hour hooker apartment. Yeah.
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yeah Or a hotel. Motel. Whatever. It's filled with people. Overflowing. I- And the, the, the, uh, psych guy, what am I trying to, his therapist or whatever says something like, do you have any violent thoughts? He's like, no, it's been a long time since my last one. We watched him choke a guy last night.
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He is a liar. He's a liar. He doesn't want to go back in Garrett. He's been in there for 18 years. Kit. It's under 10 minutes before he's a hider in a house. Yeah. And they get to the point title so quick.
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I was not ready. He just comes upon a house that's super nice, nice neighborhood in the process of being built, but like almost done. And I guess the day the people move in. it seems like it's probably the day...
00:16:17
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The night before the night before, maybe the day before. But yeah, like nobody's locked the place, which I find believable construction workers sometimes like, you know, screw up like that. But um he just makes himself a happy little hidey hole up in the attic with some extra boards that were laying around.
00:16:36
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Full-ass builds himself a room in the attic. Yes. And goes unnoticed. Yes. And I immediately just loves this family. The second he sees Mimi Rogers, he's just like, damn, this is my wife, mommy. These kids are horrible. They'll be my kids.
00:16:54
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And I'm her bad, bad little hider. Yeah, up in the attic. um It's a pretty decent-sized little cubbyhole he's built for himself. He's got a big window.
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um That's a lot of natural light, a lot of natural light. You love to see it. It is an open floor plan ah in that the one room does have to serve as his bedroom.
00:17:19
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I assume toilet. I assume he's shitting in a bucket and then taking it down to the toilet every now and then when their family's out of town or out of the house and and dumping it in there. Yeah, he's got a slot bucket. It's an all-purpose slot bucket. That's your sink. It's your drinking water. Absolutely. And then, you know, it's also got his little hot plate or whatever up there and his shrine that he's building to the family he's obsessed with.
Analyzing Busey's Unique Character
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It's all got to be in the one the one room Already, the description of Gary Busey's secret living in a house is the scariest plot of any movie I've ever heard. like And this isn't even now Busey.
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This is pre-motorcycle accident Busey, where he's just a guy. he's um he still looks like Gary Busey. He just doesn't look as Busey as we come to know him later. He's not...
00:18:19
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good looking he he's not a man you would everyone in this movie i know it is so funny when people are talking about him like he's good looking and i'm like you know it guys you you know you're looking at gary bucey right like this is i don't think gary bucey is a bad looking man i think like he has a very distinct look to him but i think there is a charm to bucey Not this Busey, but just in general, like Pappas from Point Break Busey.
00:18:50
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Okay. Two Meatball Subs, two. Okay. ah i I guess I'll give you that. But he's not classically handsome, we should say. Well, he's not Clooney, but like... Oh, okay. So your only options here are Clooney or Busey. There's no...
00:19:11
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There's no in between. You're either a Clooney or Busey. Get Clooney in the streets, Busey in the sheets.
00:19:22
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Honestly, I think the the most noble thing about this man is that he isn't just jerking off all over their house all the time. How do you know he's not? He has so many opportunities. And he Like he's watching her shower at one point. He watches her skinny dip. He is just in his hidey hole list because he rigs up. There's a monitor system like a ah room to room intercom system that he rigs so that he can just eavesdrop on them at all times.
00:19:56
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Motherfucker can't cash a check, but he knows how to wire some shit. and like I figure he he was 15 when he was put in. Maybe he was, ah you know, Cook industrial tech engineering.
00:20:08
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I don't know, man. I don't know. He it truly is, though, just... I love when he's living his best life, doing home alone, just you know, eating the Oreos, walking around the house, making himself at Shockingly comfortable immediately with just... Like, the first night, basically, that the family is in the house, he is just wandering around. He's like, ooh, I'm gonna wander over to the fridge. He's just like...
00:20:38
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Checking out the place, snooping through all of Dad's papers, and then the only time he gets nervous is when he spills some soup from his Campbell's soup can that he's eating cold soup out of onto Dad's papers, and he realizes he has to ditch the papers.
00:20:59
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Or he will be caught. If I were living in someone else's house, Garrett, I would be so terrified. I would be so quiet. I would be so careful. Especially knowing, by the way, that there are two small children. wouldn't eat red soup over papers? I would not eat red soup over papers. They have two children and a dog.
00:21:18
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What is wrong with that dog, by the way, that he was not a away awoken by Gary Busey snooping at night? Yeah, the dog was mostly only... wait, shit, was that after he killed the dog?
00:21:31
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Well, maybe it was. He kills the dog very early in movie. Which is... Yeah. Which, the first time the dog comes up in Snooping, because Gary Busey has a hidden door and also a little hidey latch thing that kind of looks like an air vent.
Violence and Tension in the Story
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And the dog is barking and he just starts stabbing through this air vent with a screwdriver in a way that I was very uncomfortable. Very uncomfortable with. And the dog quickly realizes he can just stand out of reach of the of the screwdriver and bark furiously. And these are terrible people who don't come find out what their dog is angrily barking at up in the attic.
00:22:13
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Well, in no world do you think you have a hider in the house. Yeah. True, but I might think we had big rats or something, and I'd be concerned about that. Well, eventually we do think there's big rats upstairs, and that's why we hired the exterminator. Yep, yep, yep. Who he has to have a fucking karate fight with. The exterminator, worst day of that man's life, because...
00:22:36
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Worst thing in the world is finding out that Gary Busey's a hider in your house. The second worst thing is like, ascent to that man who is just upstairs trying to spray for rats, that was like Leatherface opening the big sliding door.
00:22:53
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Except Leatherface doesn't have a chainsaw. He's just fucking, you are now in a hand-to-hand combat with a man that popped out of the wall. Yep, yep, yep.
00:23:05
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Which is where like some of the questionable dialogue pops in where the ah exterminators like, Hey, you're not supposed to be up here.
00:23:17
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I think what he should. So you're saying it would have been better if he's like, Oh, hundred percent. A hundred. Did you ever think that this movie deserved a theme song that was written by two theater kids and their keyboard in the Like a lot of like side to side jazz hands. Hider in the house.
00:23:42
Speaker
Hider in the house. Hider in the house. Yeah, exactly. Okay, but we're getting ahead of ourselves. The the family has moved in. Michael McKean has a classic stereotypical business boy job. He does capital B business. He has important capital C clients and a big capital P presentation to give. I think it's And a big pile of capital P papers. yeah Yes, that too. With a whole bunch of capital S soup all over it.
00:24:14
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Which is a cat another capital P per problem. When he loses the big A account. Calls his kid in. Danny, did you get soup?
00:24:25
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Why were eating soup at Papa's desk? Also, how did you open the can? Yep. Yeah. Yeah. Well, with, with a fucking Bowie knife is the answer.
00:24:37
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Busey eats food in this movie, like the hobo and Dennis, the menace Christopher Lloyd hobo, just like eaten beans with ah the sharpest knife directly out of a can. Absolutely. um But yeah, so Gary's up there with his... oh When you described him having fun in his little hidey hole, you neglected to mention his little dollhouse. That there was the little architectural model of the house that he makes little figures for to represent all the family members. And then there's a little wooden figurine for him, too, up in the attic.
00:25:14
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He's... Then the dog figurine disappears. Yeah. But get the little figurine up in the attic, the little hider. Little hider. He's having a good time up there. So ah things are are not great in our our main couple's marriage.
00:25:32
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ah She's expecting too much out of reactions to her shitty art. Yeah. She gives... Michael McKean a present in a little box and brings two glasses of champagne because it's the first night in the new house which man that dude made a mess of all his papers within like three hours of being in this house i it's very impressive that the house is that lived in that quickly but this is their first night read him out to him yeah yeah yeah yeah and what she gives him
00:26:04
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is a pot that she made A little clay pot. It is i exactly as Michael McKean says.
00:26:15
Speaker
Nice. It's nice. It's nice. he yeah He didn't have a bad reaction to it, but it is a crudely painted sailboat on that. yeah And...
00:26:27
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And he reacted appropriately for what he was given. And it seems like she wanted him to react for minutes instead of seconds. I think she just wanted a bigger like, oh, it's so beautiful full instead of nice. No one wants to hear nice, Garrett.
00:26:45
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But he didn't say like nice. He said like, oh it's nice. He did a high-pitched man lie. he did a high-pitched man lie. ah And after that, even though she came in with champagne and was skinny dipping earlier with both Busey and the creepy neighbor peeping out the windows watching, ah now she doesn't want to fuck because ah Michael McKean didn't like her pottery.
00:27:09
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I think this is a woman who has who very badly needed to read The Feminine Mystique because like she is not happy. She has clearly turned to pottery because her children are old enough that her youngest is going to kindergarten now, meaning she is home alone all day with nothing to do make except make shitty pottery.
00:27:30
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And I think she needs more out of life. She even says, like, I could... I could go back to work. And Michael McKean's like, no, we agreed. You could stay home. You should stay home with and spend more time with the family. It's like, she she does. I don't think she's happy here in this scenario.
00:27:51
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but baby pottery though is not the move like i it's i'm happy she enjoys it um she expects too much out of all of our reactions to how good it is maybe take a karate class maybe i don't know write the great american novel yeah um why would you assume she'd be any better at that than the sailboat on the pot we tried the pot it's time to move yeah
00:28:23
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But yeah, only 20 minutes in. It says right here he does kill the dog 20 minutes into the movie. And I don't know when he had time to bury that thing in the in the garden, but he sure does.
00:28:35
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And still has... love that Time to do all this. no, as the movie goes on, we just... He's got a little graveyard going out back. I love his graveyard. The the garden that he puts these bodies in is so small.
00:28:48
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There's no fucking way. There's no way. It's tiny. It is a flower bed. It's not even a garden. It's definitely not a yard.
00:29:01
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ah Maybe one of the scariest things about this movie is, like, can you imagine... finding out that not only are these people missing, but they've been buried in your backyard. you mean my garden. Your garden. Yeah.
00:29:17
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uncovering that dog's snout. Oh, the, like the, Oh my God, like just the teeth. And it is, is scary. He is a scary person in this movie. Absolutely. freaking littlely And you know, they tried to give him, you know, this, this backstory that would make you at least somewhat sympathetic to him, which is so strange.
00:29:37
Speaker
The whole thing is very odd because Gary Busey is the point of view character. for the entire movie. So you're not, you're not. Yeah. I mean, but like you'd think the movie would be following the family as they slowly start to realize that there's a hider in the house, but no, this is a movie about and
Social Struggles and Isolation
00:29:58
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for and centrally focused on the, the life and times of the man hiding in the house.
00:30:06
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The hider, please. Sorry, the hider in the house. um So, ah
00:30:17
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Busey kills the exterminator. I think he gave decent performance. In this? don't think Busey gave a performance at all. He just showed up and was Gary Busey. No, this is Gary Busey pre-motorcycle accident. And I think that there's moments that are nice where you see him having to, like, gas himself up to be normal at somebody. Because...
00:30:41
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practicing lines like how he's gonna say and then the second it doesn't go exactly like he hoped in his head just like how he's like tapping his hand on his leg and you see like him just try the line again like it will bring a different i just i just didn't get the right delivery if i had just emphasized it you know a little bit differently then it would have worked let me just try it again I mean, yeah, he has no no skills for, at like, talking to people. He's been institutionalized since he was 15. He doesn't know shit.
00:31:16
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um I do think, though, that if we ever covered a movie that there should be a remake of starring Nicolas Cage. Mmm. Hide her in the house is the one. Holy shit, that would be so good. He'd hard.
00:31:30
Speaker
So yeah, he beats the the the bug man to death with his own flashlight up in in the attic. And then this is the least believable part is...
00:31:41
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In broad daylight, he apparently got rid of the body in that tiny little garden. When we know that the neighbor next door is home. Like we saw the neighbor handing a pie to the family as they left. So we know this dude is there.
00:31:58
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This is a neighborhood in broad daylight. And you're telling me this dude can hide a body and no one will notice.
00:32:08
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that is a so the It takes so long to dig a grave, Garrett.
00:32:14
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Kit would know. The bodies she buried that day were laid the foundation. That's why instead just throw them in a lake. You put it in a lake and then you don't have to dig the grave.
00:32:25
Speaker
Well, didn't we learn from Affleck and deep water, dark water, whatever it was called, that you don't weight it down properly, it floats to the top and now you've got to chase a guy on a pipe. What?
00:32:37
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That does happen, though. um Yeah. And then he gets into the exterminator's clothes and drives the truck away so that everyone will have seen the exterminator leave the house.
00:32:51
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But this is truly incredible. He does not know how to drive, because why would he? And so it's it's amazing watching him try to drive his way out of this out of this tiny little...
00:33:07
Speaker
cul-de-sac neighborhood This movie, I will say, 100% worth watching. this ah This movie was fun as hell to me. Disagree. i wildly tickled by the hider in the house.
00:33:21
Speaker
yeah Wildly. I love the title alone got me through so much. Just referring to the character, not by name, but as the hider in the house.
00:33:32
Speaker
Yeah. um So he apparently stashed the truck, I guess. Yeah, burned it or something. But when he when he kills the exterminator after his karate fight, I mentioned that he comes out like Leatherface and is fighting him as his room is being filled with you know poisonous fumes.
00:33:53
Speaker
The way he murders him with his own flashlight is like Leatherface dancing with the chainsaw on the road at the end. It's just wild, like Gumby arms flinging this flashlight. There should have been spray of blood everywhere.
00:34:11
Speaker
honestly i'm surprised that the the amount of uh rat killing gas that went in didn't kill bucey immediately because it's so much gas and our exterminator man is wearing a full-on gas mask like the kind they handed out in in world war two so like it's impressive that gary is not dead Well, if he hadn't gotten just straight up killed at the end of the movie, oh look who cares? He would have gotten cancer down the line. Obviously. That makes perfect sense. So... ah
00:34:50
Speaker
Yeah, he goes back to therapy for his last session because apparently all this has happened in only one week. Literally one week. And he's killed a dog and ah an exterminator and he's moved into the house completely.
00:35:07
Speaker
And ah he's acting real agitated during therapy. He's, ah you know, talking about how He now but knows that the fire wasn't his fault.
00:35:22
Speaker
um And he mentions that like he now lives with a family, making it seem like he's renting a place that also has a family living in it And he's like...
00:35:35
Speaker
you you know, it makes me want to have a family of my own someday. and he's like, a family of my own. And he's like, someday that they are possessed, someday that could happen. and he's like, I'm planning on it.
00:35:47
Speaker
but He is really... He's really good at executing his plan to make that his family. He is. I will it will give him full credit for that. He's he's absolutely...
00:36:04
Speaker
um A guy with a strategy. And the the therapist immediately knows something is off and tries to talk to his supervisor about, like, we need to get this man with more mandatory sessions, like, right now.
00:36:20
Speaker
I don't think. I don't think he's okay. And the dude's like, listen, man, he's been released. Unless you have proof or a suspicion that he is an imminent danger to himself or others, we cannot detain him. We cannot force him to have any more mandatory sessions. And then we never see these people again.
00:36:42
Speaker
Like, he is not going back to therapy. Well, that just shows, you know... The problem with mental health in America dates back long, long ago. I will say- You're just letting these buceys out on the street. They made a pretty compelling case at every point where you're like, someone should have intervened at this point in the movie. Someone should have intervened at this point in the movie. They do a really good job of explaining why it didn't work. Like, why-
00:37:13
Speaker
he was able to slip through the cracks somehow why the exterminators you know can't find the fact that their guy is missing well they do like start asking around but you know all they found is the truck right so they can't do anything about it yes this was the last place he was known to be seen um and yeah there are people who have extremely good survival instincts in this movie that I am very proud of.
00:37:43
Speaker
ah Like when Rita, the best friend is like, he's lying to her about why he's in the house. And she's just like, I don't believe you and tries to leave.
00:37:58
Speaker
like I don't believe you. I think you're hider in the house I think you're a hider in the house. But anyway, businessman has failed his business presentation because his business papers got soup on him and Gary Busey threw him out to avoid getting caught. So he's yelling.
00:38:16
Speaker
Because he thinks his wife moved his papers. And ah this is the part where I was like, i don't. She's always souping my shit. yeah No matter what I'm doing, she brings me pottery that sucks and then she soups my shit.
00:38:32
Speaker
And so um this is the part where I was like, ah did did they actually write this movie or are they just making this shit up as they go along? And it's because ah Michael McKean accuses her because she's like, if it's money, that's a problem. like If you're worried that we can't afford the house, like I could go back to work. And he's like, no, you're supposed to spend time with your family.
00:38:53
Speaker
then he's like, you're spending too much time with the house and not enough time with your family. i was like, what the fuck does that mean? Mean.
00:39:04
Speaker
What do you mean by that? Too much time with that. Does he think she's having an affair with the house? With the house. With the house. Because like, and so far all we've seen her do with the house is ah that she called an exterminator when they needed an exterminator.
00:39:26
Speaker
That skinny dip in the pool. Oh, shit. She is fucking the house. I take it all back. Garrett, this is the the the problem is not the hider. The problem is the house.
00:39:37
Speaker
The house. The house is possessing everybody. I do want to say, because we kind of glossed over the pool, as soon as she is naked...
00:39:48
Speaker
Gary Busey's little window pops open so fast and he's just like, hell yeah, mama. And then he looks over and sees the neighbor who's the creepiest person in the whole movie. And that is hard to do in a Gary Busey movie.
00:40:02
Speaker
But the neighbor looks like if handsome Squidward and Crispin Glover had a love child. Does um
00:40:16
Speaker
does he Yes. Yes. But also was wearing like one of those satiny sports jackets and short shorts.
Manipulation and Conflict Escalation
00:40:28
Speaker
but He never clearly he also has head damage and he never left high school. Oh, yeah. And he'll say very vague things like I've got to go watch my local sports team. I know that was so amazing. That was another one where i was like the writing in this like was was there some rule that they couldn't say what town this is taking place in?
00:40:49
Speaker
Like they couldn't they hadn't decided and it was vague in the script and they never filled it in. He just, he just read in parentheses local sports team. My favorite sports team.
00:41:02
Speaker
That is probably what happened. That is actually actually, yes, that is absolutely what happened is that that was something that someone intended to fill in later once they had decided based on where they got permission to shoot and what it looked like and what they thought they would, you know, be able to sell it as.
00:41:21
Speaker
Holy shit. You're right. Yeah. i it It was supposed to be filled in with like the Buccaneers or whatever. He had on like a Phillies jacket, but it's funny that they're just on set that day. they're like, shit, we never filled this in. Where's Lib Dobbs? And he's just like up napping on Gary Busey's cum mattress in the hidey hole. Yeah.
00:41:43
Speaker
So ah this was the time when I wrote, how is there still an hour left in this movie, by the way? because it seems like we were running out of ideas of what to do with a hider in the house. He'd already killed the exterminator and the dog. I was so wrong. There's so much more to do.
00:42:03
Speaker
We have this housewarming party where they invite all of their old friends to see the new house. And Gary overhears Michael McKean talking to his friend about how he wants to cheat on his wife again.
00:42:18
Speaker
And light bulb goes off and Gary abuse his head. And he is, he is a mastermind of breaking this family up. You wouldn't think that he is as bright as he is, but he really i thought first comes up with a plan execution. It was a dumb plan. I thought for sure that his plan was psychotic because what we see him do is come downstairs dressed in what I assume are the husband's clothes because where else would he have gotten a suit and tie?
00:42:49
Speaker
And he goes to a nice restaurant at a hotel and calls. stop putting the knife on his face. Won't stop put touch, like stabbing his own face, not stabbing, but like rubbing the butter knife on his own face. But that aside, he calls the ah house and invites the wife to lunch saying I'm a guy who works at your husband's office and he got done with all his work early and he wants to meet you for lunch at the this hotel restaurant so come on right away and I'm like what is his plan this is a dumb plan do you think are you gonna trick her into having lunch with you you absolute lunatic no
00:43:35
Speaker
He instead hands a ah note to the maitre d' saying, my wife is going to be joining me for lunch. um This is what she looks like. This is her name. And when she gets here, will you give her this note?
00:43:47
Speaker
And when she does arrive, the note says like, hey, babe, I'm upstairs in room number whatever. She goes up and catches him with the other lady.
00:44:00
Speaker
Only nudity in this film. Yeah. Yeah. What do you see in it? It's a great plan. It's an incredible plan. Because everyone's going to be too deep busy dealing with the fallout of the the the cheating to even think about, like, who left the fucking note?
00:44:22
Speaker
You know? Like, who called? What is any of this about? It is actually pretty good thriller writing, but when you said he calls the house...
00:44:33
Speaker
The house is a person now in my mind. So I'm picturing this. There's something about Mary ending where the husband is like, who's this? And it he's like, I'm the hider. And then the house is just standing there like, hey, I'm here too.
00:44:49
Speaker
The house shows up at the restaurant. I i thought I was being invited.
00:44:57
Speaker
So um she throws him out. You know, she's not listening to anything he has to say. Kick his ass to the curb. Busey scores big on this one. um The little girl and and boy have to be told by mama that daddy's staying with a friend for a while while mommy and daddy work out what's going on And ah then we see Busey in the attic remove one little figure from his house. Yep. Yeah.
00:45:29
Speaker
Time to move the figure from the attic into the living room. Maybe. Maybe Busey sleeps at the foot of the bed now. alone That you also don't have.
00:45:43
Speaker
He actually does sit in the chair at the foot of her bed and watch her sleep. Have I ever told my sleepwalking story on here? i don't think so.
00:45:54
Speaker
In grade school, I was at a sleepover. i think it was like a baseball team sleepover. And I just woke up in a chair at the foot of this person's parents' bed.
00:46:06
Speaker
Wow. you You absolute Edward Cullen. i Thanks for not calling me a hider in the house. Cullen's a compliment. I know, right?
00:46:21
Speaker
Yeah, but ah ah Gary is related is definitely feeling like he he is can be the Edward Cullen here and watch watch everyone sleep. So he sits in the the rocking chair and watches her sleep, only then to realize you he fell asleep in the chair, just like Garrett did as a wee lad.
00:46:41
Speaker
um And now he has to like jump out and hide in the bathroom, uh when you know the kid comes to wake mom up um horrifying man in the shower jump scare when she walks into the bathroom and you see him through the shower door just creepily standing there so upsetting so upsetting so very upsetting that's my nightmare Once again, as many times as see him hide and creep on people, give the man credit where credit's due.
00:47:16
Speaker
He never jerks off. he He is a creep, but he's not a sex pervert. How do you know that? You don't know that he's not jerking it. Because they would have shown that.
00:47:30
Speaker
Would they have? Are you kidding me? Like this guy wants to come by his relationship honest. That's why he's practicing his lines. He's writing letters where he's like, you think he's not jerking it to those family photos that he stole from the house and put up on his wall. You don't think he jerks it while looking at that picture?
00:47:51
Speaker
Well, I saw the mattress, but also he's allowed, but he's not doing it while he's looking at you in secret. Yes, he's hiding in your house. He is a hider in the house. He has to. It's his title.
00:48:04
Speaker
I love what you've just done here. You've put me in a position where I have to say, i guess that's better. because It's better! It is! Because like there was once a guy i had to describe um to to a a friend, and I was like, he gives me the creeps. And she's like, what do you mean? I'm like, I don't think he'd rape you. He'd just peek through your blinds at night.
00:48:27
Speaker
Is this Puppet Monster? No, this a different guy. I'll tell you afterwards. um But that, like, which is not a good thing, right? But like here you're like, would you rather he be hiding in your linen closet and masturbating while looking at you or looking at a family portrait that you took and masturbating to your picture? And it's like, I guess i guess I'd obviously rather, yeah, yeah. like just It's not as bad. Okay, sure.
00:48:57
Speaker
As scary as he is, taking my fear of sexual assault off the table makes my ride in this movie much more enjoyable. does. It absolutely does. knowing that and Because you know how with how he reacts that he is not going to rape her. Ever. Like it never even crosses your mind that he would do that.
00:49:19
Speaker
There are other things that he might do, but not that. Will have to fist fight the entire family? Maybe. Maybe.
00:49:27
Speaker
We'll see. We'll get there.
Non-Threatening Relationships with Children
00:49:29
Speaker
So, ah yeah, he then hides in the linen closet while watching her shower. And um the the son, Neil, is not doing well with dad being gone. He gets into a fight at school with the the school bully.
00:49:46
Speaker
And Busey, like, times it perfectly so that right as mom's car is pulling up, he jumps in and pulls the kid off of... of uh uh or pulls the bully off of her kid so that he looks like he just you know helped save her son and he this is his chance introduce himself once again to the hider in the house's credit He never buried children in the backyard of their home. No, he he likes the kids. He genuinely seems to want to to be a father figure to them. Oh, yeah yeah, you're right. He could have been like, obviously the way to help him is to bury that kid next to the dog and the roach man.
00:50:32
Speaker
and her fruit Oh, yeah. um So ah the kid, you know, mom's mad at him for that. But, you know, Busey's like, no, the other kid started it.
00:50:46
Speaker
i was just walking by on my way home as I. Do you know how good of a job Busey is doing? It's seeming normal to her. It takes a while before he hits with like a hard red flag. Yes. Luckily everyone in this movie is kind of smart. Yes. So she immediately sees the red flag. It's like, that's fucked up. I'm going to not like let this go further. Yeah. Yeah. yeah That's what i'm saying. I think this is one of the few erotic thrillers where everyone has pretty decent survival instincts the entire time. Like people's radars are pretty good.
00:51:23
Speaker
Not perfect, but pretty good. ah So... ah The kid then starts a fire in the attic that night because he's mad at dad for not having called and for the fact that, um you know, dad moved away and he thinks he's never coming back.
00:51:44
Speaker
And ah mom manages to... smell the smoke and get up there in time so that Busey doesn't have to pop out like Freddy Krueger to then put the fire out and ruin all his hiding in the house.
00:52:03
Speaker
i love his bedroom. I love that he's a hider in the house. I love that he kind of has social anxiety and you can see that he really has to bottle it up and be normal in front of people, but then can be weird in his little room where he can be himself. Don't we all need that? We need that. with a knife We all need our own little private space where we can be weird and eat soup with a knife.
00:52:31
Speaker
you know what, that actually is what we should have been doing throughout this. ah I got a can of Italian wedding. You got some minestrone. Yeah. Knife and scoop into our gullet. That's beautiful. So Neil brings home Busey one day because Busey just happens to be passing by.
00:52:49
Speaker
And so now, um because the horrible neighbor has offered to help bring in groceries, this poor woman has two men awkwardly standing in her kitchen while she's trying to put away groceries because neither of them can take the fucking hint that they need to go now.
00:53:07
Speaker
um And then the creepy neighbor like ah is like, oh, let me put that on the high shelf, and he puts his hand on her lower back, and Bucy... Pulls his hand away.
00:53:20
Speaker
Makes the creepy neighbor stop being as creepy. Good job, Buse. Hey, get the fuck out of here. You don't knife another man's soup.
00:53:32
Speaker
And Busey shows himself to, you know, he's sort of ingratiating himself. He knows that he should compliment her crappy pottery because, ah he i mean, he does it with surprising deafness where he's like, where did you get these beautiful pieces? Oh, I made them.
00:53:50
Speaker
You made them? No way! just stares in shock for like three straight seconds. That's the reaction she wanted from her husband that she couldn't get.
00:54:04
Speaker
Well, he heard it all through the monitor, so he knows exactly what he needs to do. And I do think that his ability, I know like we're both people with anxiety, and there's times where you have to like turn it on to be in a social situation, and then you just turn into a giant puddle of goo when you get home.
00:54:26
Speaker
And I think as a person with anxiety, Busey is relatable in how well he can flip the switch to be regular and then just fucking, you see him start to crumble as the social battery drain. Absolutely. It's so hard to be regular, but he does now. That's why I think there are moments of decent acting in this movie.
00:54:49
Speaker
If you say so. So ah her best friend Rita comes in right about now and Busey cannot handle having to be normal in front of two people at the same time. Like this is just two women in particular.
Acting and Character Dynamics
00:55:04
Speaker
Like he just you could see his brain short circuiting, which I guess you're right. That's excellent acting. You could see his brain going error error does not compute. matt Abort, abort, abort.
00:55:18
Speaker
And he's like, I've got to get out of the house or I'm going to start knife soup and shit. And everybody's going to they're going to be onto that. I'm weird. And that I'm a hider in the house. So he makes his, uh, his exit and Rita's like, ah there's something going on, which this woman's husband has been out of the house for.
00:55:43
Speaker
what At most a week. Right. Like, time is a little squiffy in this movie, so it's hard to say exactly. Listen, Kit. Uh-huh. Rita's a good friend, but she's seen the pottery. She knows what Mimi Rogers needs in this film. you got a man who'll compliment your pottery? Damn, girl.
00:56:06
Speaker
Get that shit. So, uh... He's gonna be hiding up in them guts. Hey! ah She's like, if you don't want him, if you don't want him, I'll take him off your hands. And I'm like, Rita, Rita, what the fuck? Have you looked at his face? Have you looked at his mouth specifically? The weird crooked smile that he gives that really shows off them horsey teeth.
00:56:34
Speaker
Is that really what you want?
00:56:38
Speaker
Yes, he's got unique face. ah And he's complimentary. He's nice. They have no reason to believe he's a hider in the house. No reason whatsoever. So Rita goes and helps her with her gardening, which is where they find the dog in the garden, which technically shouldn't the exterminator be on top of the dog in this burial ritual?
00:57:08
Speaker
Are we mistaken? Did he drag the exterminator body into the van? No, he absolutely didn't because we see him close up the van and he's just out there with just the exterminator equipment that he loads into the van. There's no way for him to have gotten the body into the van because the neighbor was watching the whole time, which is why the neighbor is like, I saw him drive off. He was drunk.
00:57:29
Speaker
That's the only explanation for why you'd be driving as badly as Busey did. So driving that That was masterful cut to just car van wildly swerving down the road. Yeah. So, um, what I mean, he does there's no other doesn't have a mass grave. There is no other place for him to have put the roach man's body other than in that garden, which again tiny.
00:57:58
Speaker
But yes, she finds the dog um and is they're both rightfully very upset. And she's on the phone with the police and the police are like, this sounds like it's an animal control problem, I guess. And she's like, no, but someone killed my dog and buried it in my backyard.
00:58:18
Speaker
they're like, it's on private property.
Unraveling Tension and Suspicion
00:58:22
Speaker
If you want to dig it up and prove that it's your dog and then you want to make a claim about someone killing your dog, that's fine. But we're not going to dig it up for you.
00:58:33
Speaker
Yeah. Call us back if you find a hider in the us back if there's a hider in the house.
00:58:41
Speaker
um So then Busey teaches our kid how to fight. This is eighty s parenting at its finest, because at first, you know, when he's teaching the kid to like boxing style, like put your arms up in front of your face, keep your dukes up, protect your face, like hit my hands, that kind of thing. Mom thinks this is so charming. This is classicla the shit out of him classic right here This is how you father a child, you teach him to fight.
00:59:12
Speaker
But when Busey takes it a little further and is like, so then you kick him in the balls and mom's like, all right, okay, that's fine. And he's like, then you punch him in the face and grab him by the hair and throw him on the ground.
00:59:25
Speaker
And then you curb stomp him. That's when mom's like, okay, I think it's time for you to go inside, Neil. It's,
00:59:37
Speaker
His social battery was just getting so, that's what happens. If you don't let Busey escape to recharge, the crazy comes out so, like the end where he's like, and then you punt him in the nose. Yeah. And it's just like, Jesus Christ. He's taking Wally's down.
00:59:54
Speaker
Well, notice that like in all of these fights, Busey's first move is a kick. He kicks Exterminator in the belly. He kicks Michael McKean in the belly. He knows that they're not expecting that. He knows they're expecting you to start with a punch, so he starts with a kick.
01:00:10
Speaker
Um... Yeah, and so she rightly says, like, I don't really want you teaching my son this stuff. And he says, well, that's, you know, sometimes you need to know that. And she's like, that's my decision.
01:00:24
Speaker
i'm his mother. And she's like, yeah, yeah, you're absolutely right. I'm sorry. I'm really sorry. And so she seems like she's gonna let this one go.
01:00:36
Speaker
But then...
01:00:40
Speaker
Why are they why is she not in the house? Why is Rita supposed to be there? I can't remember why. They're going to grandma's for the weekend. Yes. And so Busey apparently overheard them being like, we're going to grandma's for the weekend, but didn't overhear them saying at any point, and Rita's going to stay here? so He goes full Macaulay in the house. Yeah, yeah. He's wearing ah dad's robe. but He's...
01:01:07
Speaker
Pop an aftershave and screaming because he's 30 and hasn't used aftershave before in prison. i mean, considering never grows any facial hair, and i don't know how he would have shaved up there. Maybe he just doesn't grow facial hair all. Rambo knife slot bucket. He's got everything he needs. You just belly shave Oh, didn't think about that. Oh, okay.
01:01:34
Speaker
Anyway, Rita comes by and is like, why are you in here wearing Phil's robe? And my first thought that I wrote down is this garden ain't going to be big enough.
01:01:50
Speaker
Because we're just going to add another body here. And ah she is ah does not believe him shockingly when he says that like, oh, she didn't tell you that she and I are together now.
01:02:04
Speaker
We're together now. We're seeing each other. And she's like, but why are you here when she's not here? And he's like, well, because live here.
01:02:16
Speaker
I live here with with them. Listen, you just don't understand. And he just keeps like trying to, like he seems to think that there's some way he could explain this without revealing that he's a hider in the house that she will believe.
01:02:31
Speaker
And she does not. And so she's gonna She's like, I think you need to leave. And he instead grabs her and like Lenny from Of Mice and Men accidentally it kills her while he's like wrestling her around the house as she's screaming her head off trying to get away from him.
01:02:55
Speaker
Which I am very surprised the nosy next door neighbor did not call the police. Biker of the neck.
01:03:06
Speaker
and Has a little cuddle with her. Yeah. ah No, he feels bad about this one. He does. he This is the only one he seems sad about. Well, did you mention that like when he's Macaulay-ing around the house that he humps a pillow a little, he's smelling her clothes? No, I not. That's the closest he gets to creepy. to creepy.
01:03:28
Speaker
It's the closest. Not watching her sleep. The soup was accident. Well...
01:03:37
Speaker
Don't make me defend. Yeah. Yeah. Garrett. Yeah. Yeah. You're right. You're right. He's a creep. He's a creep. He's hiding in the house, eating their soup. And rude. Yes. Creep. No.
01:03:49
Speaker
So, uh, it turns out they all, that also, um, this, all the struggling broke the fishbowl. So first of all, this fishbowl made me unhappy when we first saw it because it is not very full of water the entire time. And it's like, I feel bad for the fish having to live in this tiny little fishbowl. It's not great.
01:04:12
Speaker
And, um, fishbowl broke fish is definitely dead and he does replace the fish which i was like that is the least of your fucking problems right now dude like you have you have a body to bury but somehow he once again manages to bury a body in broad daylight and he has time to go to the pet store and buy a new fishbowl and fish This is a big fuck up because he just gets a a fish.
01:04:44
Speaker
And in this situation, he could have just replaced the bowl and just put the dead fish on top. And they come home and like, oh, the fish died. It's floating. Right. Like what?
01:04:56
Speaker
That would make perfect sense, especially if like it looks like Rita never made it. So like nobody was there to feed the fish over the weekend. So maybe that's what killed it. There are lots of ways. But if he doesn't want the kids to be sad. They already lost their dog.
01:05:10
Speaker
And the fish wasn't bothering him at all in the attic. No, fish was not concerned about him at all. um So the fish part is extremely funny because. ah Would you like to take in a movie this evening? ah Yes, he has been practicing his lines and that's the best one he could come up with. Well, the kid's been in a fight at this point, too, and does punt the bully's head. oh yeah. That happened before this. So the kid's in trouble. Like, she's already mad that this has happened. And now this fucking weirdo's over here.
01:05:48
Speaker
After we see him practicing the line, would you like to take in a movie this evening? Yeah. And when that doesn't go well, says, well, did read about a circus in the paper. Don't go to the circus with the hider in the house.
01:06:01
Speaker
I read about the circus. And she's like, the circus? completely correct reaction which um they're also like it's weird rita isn't here we thought she'd be here so she's got a lot going on like her friend's missing her son kicked the shit out of a bully like this there's a lot going on here and this strange man is asking her to the circus and she's like no
01:06:28
Speaker
no I'm not gonna do that and so ah the funny thing is like she gets out of it with like a no uh and he's like did I catch you at a bad time she's like yes so like you know she's about to close the door and he's like what what what and he's and like you're right he tries the same line again seeing if like maybe he said it differently if that would do it and he will not give up and he starts to have a complete fucking meltdown um Hiders losing Hiders losing it because this was like his one shot and he absolutely blew it because he was over eager. You know, he pushed a little too hard and now she's creeped out and she's like, I don't think you should come around here anymore. That does not go over well with him.
01:07:19
Speaker
Well, because yeah also like as around this time, the husband shows back up as well. And during that time, Busey was deleting messages that the husband had been sending, hid the flowers that he had been sending. Yes. Which fucking bullshit.
01:07:37
Speaker
dad Dad knows when the family is home. He never called once while his wife and kids were home. He didn't call after school or around dinner time ever He only calls in the middle of the day when no one, including his children that miss him very much, will be able to actually talk to him.
01:08:00
Speaker
He just calls from work. Like, this is, so he's such a bad dad. Well, we don't know where he's staying. Maybe there's no phone. He said he was staying with his friend. He's at that slum Bucy lives at. He's actually in Bucy's room. No, he's playing with the friend that he was like, I think I'm going to cheat on my wife. And the friend's like, are you sure?
01:08:21
Speaker
staying with that guy.
01:08:25
Speaker
you're right That is a real dick move. But, you know, when you when you have a man who is being crazy, taught your son to violently kick a face and then invites you to the circus, your husband starts looking real good. If anything, husband needs to thank Busey. Yes. For really. Saving this marriage.
01:08:45
Speaker
um i think he saved the marriage. Busey is Hitch. Because I also forgot to mention that like she notices that the fish is like three times bigger than her old fish. And that's right when Busey knocks on the door and is trying to invite her out to the circus. And so she's like, ah i don't like mentally she's not there for this conversation because she's still trying to figure out what the fuck happened to her fish.
01:09:12
Speaker
And he's like, fish get big. Fish get bigger. And she's like, it's not the same color. I don't think it's the same fish. and he says, well. Did you read about the circus? He says, no. He says, well, maybe your friend who was here.
01:09:27
Speaker
And she's like, Rita? Oh, you saw her? Like, because she's missing? And he's like, no. Well, then how did you know she was here? i didn't. guessed. I guessed.
01:09:39
Speaker
What the fuck do you mean you guessed that their friend was here? Busey's having a meltdown. He's losing it. Like he's slipping. He doesn't know what to do. These aren't lines he practiced for. Busey can only handle lines that he prepared and the mirror. And and action now we're entering uncharted territory. Necessarily always deliver those ones either because the one about reading in the paper that the circus was in town was also like, it's not a great line.
01:10:13
Speaker
Well, it's not a good line, but he did write it. He practiced it. It came out flawlessly. um So yeah, she probably should have called the police because he's freaking out on her doorstep. But instead, yes, dad comes home.
01:10:29
Speaker
And, you know, they're both crying and she slaps her husband and ah they're hugging. And then now, sorry, Busey, you just got to listen to their makeup sex from your hidey hole in the attic over the intercom.
01:10:47
Speaker
He's just in his Edward Scissorhands house, like crying on his cum mattress. And then in in an event that I'm sure would have traumatized the children for life if ah like when they thought about it afterwards, if not for everything that happened afterward, that would absolutely erase this from their memory. Yeah.
01:11:12
Speaker
The kids were basically right outside the door, just like Busey, listening in like waiting for mom and dad to come out and say, yes or no dad is coming home and going to live with us again. Just waiting for mom and dad to come so this horror show can end. And daddy can finally move back in. Because they got to talk to their dad for 0.6 seconds before mom was like, dad and I need to talk.
01:11:41
Speaker
And you need to go. you You need to go to your rooms. And then when they come out from fucking, she's like in a negligee. Don't know why you didn't put your fucking clothes back on. It's the middle of the damn day.
01:11:54
Speaker
um and they're like bed tousled hair like daddy's come home. He's staying with us.
01:12:04
Speaker
Those children would have thought back on this day with horror later in life, but no, the more exciting stuff is about to happen.
01:12:15
Speaker
Garrett. Oh my God. Is this where she hears like some noise goes up to the attic and Busey Busey slipped. He's been s slipping. Hearing the sex was the last thing he could do.
01:12:27
Speaker
Forgot to close his little door. She comes in. like, what is this? It looks like when somebody's made a home under a bridge. Yes. And dad is gone with the kids to go pick up his stuff from the hotel. So she's alone in the house in her little negligee.
01:12:45
Speaker
With a gun. With a gun, but she doesn't have it on her. She went up. No, not yet, but it has been established that it exists. Yes. um So. And this.
01:12:58
Speaker
When the dad comes in and Busey's there and he's like, who the hell are you? This is the, it's up there with one of the best scenes in the movie because be all Busey can do is fight both of them at the same time without saying anything. Yes.
01:13:19
Speaker
What's he going to say? I'm the hider in the house. I'm the hider, bitch. Kicks dad in the balls. Palm strikes Mimi Rogers, then turns back around, slams Michael McKean through a glass table. And I am just losing my fucking mind while this is happening. I was never expecting him to just turn and immediately hit Mimi.
01:13:39
Speaker
No, I was not either. I was not expecting it either. But but before we get to that part, ah when she's looking around in his horrible little hidey hole and she sees like her pot that she gave him there and she knows the hider in the house is Busey.
01:13:54
Speaker
And then when he stands up out of the corner... horror movie shit like he's doing not for rato michael myers 100 he's just crouched down in the corner waiting for her to come in and he stands up as she's there and she has the most incredible skills of any any woman we've seen in any one of these because her immediate thought is I have to placate him. I have to, to like, you're right.
01:14:27
Speaker
I shouldn't have taken him back. Cause he's like, this is all your fault. You lied to me. and she's like, how did I lie to you? And he's like, you said to stop by anytime, but then you told me I had to go.
01:14:38
Speaker
like okay, all right, this is what I'm dealing with. And it dawns on her that this is what she needs to do. So she's like, okay, so what we're going to do is we're gonna go downstairs. Because the only reason I wasn't with you is because I didn't think I had a choice. I didn't know. You didn't tell me that this was your plan. If I knew this was your plan, I would have been in on it with you from the start.
01:14:59
Speaker
100%. Let's go downstairs. And then when my husband comes home, we can tell him together that we don't need him anymore. you can you can be the dad to my kids. We don't need him anymore. And he's like, that's a great idea. So they go sit down there together and he's like got one arm around her and she's standing there completely petrified and like um excellent acting, excellent survival skills, 10 out of 10, most likely to survive any bad situation. This woman gets major props.
01:15:35
Speaker
Well, it's funny too that when the family walks back in and the kids are both like, Hey, it's the hider in the house. And the dad is just like, who the fuck? not Like a week. And this man is, why does my whole family know this man?
01:15:53
Speaker
And, uh, you're right. Like, ah cause, uh, Michael McKean's the only one who doesn't see, he doesn't seem to be getting like her telepathic messages she's trying to send of like, this is a dangerous man.
01:16:07
Speaker
ah he's just like, there's a man in my house. And he steps forward. Like he's going to try and fight them. And she just yells out like, watch out. He's crazy. and then he goes for the balls. Yeah.
01:16:20
Speaker
And then he you're right, he turns around and palm strikes her, which ah was not expecting. ah And then goes for the dad and brilliant child to smartest child we've seen in one of these. ah Neil grabs his sister and runs straight to the creepy neighbor's house and bangs on the door and says, open up. Someone's trying to kill my parents.
01:16:42
Speaker
And the fan of the local sports team, kind of looking like a hunk, saves the day. Saves the day. Way to go, creepy guy And so ah mom and Neil really killing it here. um But yeah, so he knocks out the dad by throwing him through the the glass coffee table. Note to everyone, do not own a glass table.
01:17:06
Speaker
All it exists to do is be shattered when your body falls through it. It's what it's for. Beyonce knows this. Beyonce knows this very well. So um he drags her back up to the attic and starts throwing kerosene on her.
01:17:25
Speaker
Because the only way this man really... Fires his move When he's run out of options, he's played all the cards that he has. You know, he's got a limited set of skills to work with. One thing he does know how to do, start a fire.
01:17:39
Speaker
You back a hider into a corner. If the ball kick doesn't work, he's going to burn you. um But Dad's back up. ah They're fighting. Dad gets, like, thrown down the stairs. Shit stabbed out of him with a fire stoker. Holy shit. my God, the stairs. Yeah. Kit, you said the stairs. That stunt man took a ball. Holy shit.
01:18:04
Speaker
head first down a flight of stairs. And I felt every step. Every single step. Those were old, like not old, but they were wooden stairs. There's no, there's no carpeting. There's no padding or anything. It is wooden stairs all the way down.
01:18:20
Speaker
That was a rough day at the office for the guy that took that. Seriously. Well done to that man. um And then, yeah, Busey's stabbing him with a fire poker and over and over, over, brutal over being like, ah you know, ah the kids don't deserve a shitty parent like you.
01:18:41
Speaker
Right. You know, they deserve better. Your wife deserves better. And then kabam, mom came back in with the gun. But unfortunately, Busey's bulletproof. Yeah, he does the classic. And she's she's doing well. She keeps the gun trained on him as she's walking past his body on the stairs to get up to her husband. But as soon as she turns her back like Freddy Krueger, the man pops back up again and does one of the scariest things I've ever seen
Climactic Showdown and Resolution
01:19:12
Speaker
this.
01:19:12
Speaker
This is horrifying. He puts her head next to his, like right up to his temple to her temple, and then the revolver to his other temple, and he's going to blow share that bullet both of their brains out.
01:19:30
Speaker
And then we hear the shot. It's the cops from behind having just come in the door. Holy shit, Garrett.
01:19:44
Speaker
it's It's funny because you look through and like there are things that are very dumb about this movie, mostly the title, and a handful of lines. But even you said you thought this movie wasn't written that well. But as we go through, you're like, actually, this was a really smart thriller thing. This was a smart thriller thing. just think individual dialogue was was kind of clunky. But as far as it being plotted out, you're right. It is actually pretty clever.
01:20:11
Speaker
That was the gun to the temple. like in the What's funny though, like because from this moment, you know we kind of just back out of the house, cops, it's done. And we just see the house and then we see the hider's light turn off in the attic.
01:20:26
Speaker
Now I'm thinking this because of something we said earlier. That isn't his light turning off. That's the house winking. one Someone else here still wants to get in her pants.
01:20:40
Speaker
Winking. Come have a dip in the pool. I'm not so easy to shoot, copper. Move over, Leatherface. Move over, Ghostface. Move over, Freddy Krueger. Jason, you're out. The Hider in the House is the horror icon. There should have been eight of these movies.
01:21:01
Speaker
He's got so many different houses he could hide in. to hide it The next one's Hider in the apartment complex. Then you have Hider in the bungalow. Hider in the lodge.
01:21:13
Speaker
Hider in the Airbnb. There's so many houses to hide. Hider in the mansion. Hider in the castle. Yeah, you've seen him hide in a house, but have you seen him hide in this house? No, you have not, because this one is Dutch craftsman style.
01:21:32
Speaker
So at the beginning, i said, i think this movie is worth watching because I had a lot of fun. Did you change your mind as we discussed it? I did. I changed my mind as I discussed it. I hated watching it, but talking about it was a lot of fun. So I have a feeling if I had watched it with you or even someone, because John can't stand movies that are just like people almost getting caught doing things, which is why he hates a lot of the movies we watch.
01:22:00
Speaker
um So he could not tolerate this one. I think it would have been more fun if I had not watched it by myself. But but I did not enjoy watching it, but I've absolutely enjoyed talking about it. And like there are bits that are really good.
01:22:14
Speaker
um Like putting the gun to both of their
Busey's Performance and Script Analysis
01:22:18
Speaker
heads. That's a move we've never seen before. That's new. That's exciting. Well, and I think just watching his acting of a man who is trying to be so normal as he is melting down and repeating the same line, I think there's like legitimately some decent acting from Busey, like playing this guy, because he doesn't go crazy over the top with the character. I'm not saying it's like a perfect role or great, but I think we've absolutely seen worse. think the script needed one more pass.
01:22:49
Speaker
Uh... fill in a couple boys fill in a couple blank spots y'all missed um and i don't know i feel like they could have played a little bit more with uh her ah like with with one making us wonder if she's actually gonna fuck the hider in the house uh because that was never really on the table i didn't think that was ever gonna happen he never got that close uh He couldn't, like, he knew, though, that in his mind, I bet he's like, we go to the circus.
01:23:23
Speaker
I will fuck this woman. Yes. That's how this works. But this but I have to see the report the elephants first. Never been on a date before. He doesn't know how this works. He probably assumes that's how you get a wife.
01:23:35
Speaker
You go to the circus with her and then, ta-da, you're married now. Not the worst instincts. Yeah. this is yeah let's have an important question though before we get to our main questions would you still live in the house afterwards it has a graveyard out of it i can't i would absolutely demolish the hiders room i wouldn't save that as a little you don't want to remodel it and make it into your little girl's bedroom Did we ever even say that they didn't notice that window was just missing? I know, right? Like, how pissed would you be if your house had this big, beautiful attic window and then, like, you went into the house and for some reason that window is completely walled off?
01:24:23
Speaker
like Like, maybe that was the thing they just didn't notice yet. Like, if you'd given them a couple months in the house, they would have figured out, like, oh, that is weird. what are all these soup cans doing up here also it's such a huge attic that like i'm surprised it wasn't you know like just finish the attic and make it a useful room like why are you leaving it looking so bare could have made that i mean they used the attic everybody's up there doing shit yeah little girl plays dolls up there a little boy starts a fire up there so you know what else do you need
01:25:04
Speaker
It's funny. like I'm just saying they should have made that into dad's office. And then yeah his papers wouldn't have gotten souped, maybe. Well, it'd be closer to the soup. to the soup.
01:25:19
Speaker
A
Erotic Thriller or Not?
01:25:20
Speaker
movie like this, I would normally really miss there being more sex or any sex or nudity. But I mean, I don't even know if this is technically an erotic thriller. It's not erotic. No. not Well, Mimi Rogers sucks. And Mimi Rogers is an erotic thriller. I actually got caught watching one on my in-laws couch while we were watching something else.
01:25:46
Speaker
And I watched that and then looked to see what the ah the writer had written. And he had written this Mimi Rogers one. And it's just her getting naughty massages. And I found it on Tubi and was watching it. And that's just not, that's a weird movie to get caught on a laptop with like one in the morning in the living room. Garrett, you absolute monster.
01:26:06
Speaker
Hey, Busey didn't do it. Garrett didn't do it. and Okay. Well, I mean, I'm glad you hold the same standards in your life as Gary Busey does. like What are you watching? It's research. It's research. Do you want to go to the circus? Do you want to go to the circus? read in the paper that the circus is in town. Would you like to take in a movie?
01:26:27
Speaker
Garrett. I read in the local newspaper. Were you aroused? One to five. No, no. But, you know, like Mimi Rogers would get a little butt. There's hardly a boob in this film, even. The sexiest thing is the she goes skinny dipping. You don't see anything. And there are two creepy men ogling her from windows. So you don't even really get to enjoy it.
01:26:52
Speaker
Mom butt in jeans. Hey. right No, it's it's like a a one. It's a zero. it's This is not an erotic film. But were you thrilled?
01:27:05
Speaker
Oh, no, I'm on the same page as you. Absolutely. Zero, one, whatever. Thrilled? Thrilled? Fucking five. Those karate fights, the the gun to the head at the end, Busey popping out like of like a Dracula in that room. Like, Busey is just a scary person already. And when you give him a mental disability and yeah he's horrifying. This is a scary person. yeah i I very much enjoy him punching her in the face. Yeah.
01:27:41
Speaker
was the biggest surprise I've ever had. Like in this, was it wasn't expecting it. So honestly, five is five is too high, but I'm going to leave it.
01:27:52
Speaker
I mean, it does have the benefit of the fact that you are both feeling the tension of, is he going to get caught? And is he going to do something horrible to these people?
01:28:03
Speaker
So you have tension coming from like multiple sources. It's not,
Unrealistic Elements and Tensions
01:28:07
Speaker
um, you know even though you don't identify with him and you want him to get caught, it still makes it tense somehow that he might get caught.
01:28:16
Speaker
um But then again, he gets away with so much shit that he absolutely, like he's climbing up onto the roof multiple times a day and night constantly. And no one in this neighborhood ever sees this man on the roof ever. installs his own steps to get up there like put screws in the side of the house yeah to walk up like he's he's getting away yeah the fact that handsome squidward crispin glover guy never it's like hey who's this guy that's like just keeps popping in and out of and out of the attic window that's weird um so i will say that um that
01:28:56
Speaker
made it pretty clear that like, okay, we're, we're bending some rules of suspension of disbelief here. Um, but yeah, it was, it, there was a lot of tension. Uh, I will say I'll give it a three and a half.
01:29:14
Speaker
Absolutely reasonable. i got a five. And, uh, are you going to ruin your life for Gary Busey Garrett? Not Busey. I didn't. But maybe
A Debate on House Features
01:29:26
Speaker
Mimi. Are you going to go live in Mimi Rogers' house and eat soup with a knife so that you can spy on her and try to take her family?
01:29:40
Speaker
Would I be a hider in a house? Would you be in a hider in a house for her? How claustrophobic are you, Garrett? Pretty, pretty claustrophobic, but also big picture family, got big picture window, and family, big picture window, hot wife. I can act that the pottery is better now that I know that's the case. He did pool that you don't get to swim in, but you know, it's there.
01:30:08
Speaker
Yeah, I'm going to I'll hide in the house. OK, next question, though. um Would you ruin your life for that house? Would you be willing to accept a hider in the house to get to live in that house, which does have that heated pool and it's a pretty big, nice house?
01:30:25
Speaker
In this economy? Yes, you've got to ruin your life for that house. That was the thing when when I was like, would I still live in the house afterwards? I was like, in this economy? Ain't no way I can afford to to sell this house at a loss because people are going to know that's the hider in the house house. So I'm not buying that for full price. Absolutely not.
01:30:47
Speaker
so ah and and then to take So to take a loss on that and go move somewhere else? Nah, I can't afford that. So, yeah. So in order, would I ruin my life for Gary Busey? No. Would I become a hider in the house and ruin my life for Mimi? No. um Would I ruin my life for the and accept a hider in the house to live in that house?
01:31:16
Speaker
I'm going to say no. I'd live in it after we got rid of the hider in the house, but I would demolish his little room, obviously. And
Appreciation for Film's Quirkiness
01:31:23
Speaker
then I would turn that room into my pottery studio. And every time he walks in, he has to go. Oh,
01:31:36
Speaker
wow. That's the most wow beautiful sailboat I've ever seen painted on a vase. How could you draw a triangle so perfect for the sail? perfect.
01:31:47
Speaker
Ah, and the colors, the blue of the ocean and the blue of the sky are different blues. Wow. Ah.
01:31:58
Speaker
Kit, it's good to be back. i'm happy that we came back with Hyder in the House. Hyder in the House. was delighted. Hyder in the House. I can't get over how strange that title feels to say. And I don't think that anyone who doesn't speak English natively would understand why, because I can't articulate why. It's just wrong somehow.
01:32:23
Speaker
Just looking at the folks, look at the poster. I'll post it on the the Instagram main feed. But just, yeah, those series of words next to each other. It's wrong. Hider looks weird. I don't know if I've ever said hider. I mean, because you don't use the word hider.
01:32:40
Speaker
yeah Then again, how often do you have occasion? How often do you have occasion? Unless you're playing hide and seek and you're talking about the hiders and the seekers. Really, you have no no use for it.
01:32:58
Speaker
Yes, Garrett, as you cackle to yourself while looking at Gary Busey's face. I'm just looking at the poster. Like, if you look at this and then zoom in on his face, everything about this poster is perfect.
01:33:12
Speaker
Like the move the the movie is smarter than the poster. It is the du like this makes it look like it's going to be so much dumber than it is. And it's pretty dumb. It's pretty dumb.
01:33:27
Speaker
But this makes it look even dumber. i'm I'm happy we exist in the same timeline as this film. I'm happy that our friend Austin Hanner recommended this. Oh, this was Austin's recommendation. Thank you, Austin.
01:33:43
Speaker
And also, folks, Tubi provides. Tubi
Engaging the Audience and Farewell
01:33:47
Speaker
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Speaker
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