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Three Years Later
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Welcome to The GALactic Podcast! In this episode, Andrea and Lauren chat about their 3 year journey of this show! They revisit one of their first topics they ever did, Prequels vs Sequels. They also give some life updates. Did Andrea enter the multiverse? Has their views changes on the Prequels and Sequels? Go listen and enjoy!
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Transcript
Return from Hiatus and Star Wars Series Preview
00:00:08
Speaker
Hello everyone and welcome to the collective podcast I'm Lauren Romo and with me as always is my cousin and fellow nerd Andrea Gutierrez Chachacha chair It's been a while here pal Wow Like over a month I think for us. Yeah Thanks I'm not gonna lie kinda has been
00:00:32
Speaker
Makes me appreciate it more doing this. Oh, no, yeah, we'll we'll dive into that a little bit. But yeah, we we've been gone. We'll we'll talk about what we've been doing and, you know, stuff like that. But yeah, we're we're back, baby. And doors around the corner. Then we have Bad Batch. We have Mandalorian season three. Like it's going to be fall into winter. It's going to be a lot of Star Wars. A lot of shows are coming out and then into next year or so.
00:01:02
Speaker
We got a lot of stuff, so we took a little break. But we have a little fun discussion today. I think we have teed up, so we're excited to
Introduction and Podcast Focus
00:01:12
Speaker
get back. Back to it, kids. But before we do that, if this is your first time listening to us, welcome. We are Star Wars Podcasts. Discuss anything and everything within that galaxy far, far away. In each episode, we will dive into one or two topics and have a general discussion on them. Topics could be movies, TV series, books, comics,
00:01:31
Speaker
A specific character, you name it. And we talk about it. So, yeah, we've been at a break the whole month of July. We were on a break. We were on a break. Classic friends, classic friends. So we've been at a break probably for a while. Like I said, like.
Lauren's New Job and Star Wars Fandom at Work
00:01:56
Speaker
over a month now because we were going to come back obviously with Andor was going to Andor was going to start supposedly on August 21st when they pushed that back a whole month to September now 31st 31st so we were supposed to get it this month they pushed it back to the end mid September September 21st
00:02:19
Speaker
So we were like, well, should we come back? Should we wait until Andor comes? So I think I pushed the envelope up. Well, let's get at least one episode in before we talk about Andor. Let's get warmed up. Yeah, let's get back into the groove here a little bit. But yeah, so I know I'll start us off with what kind of what I've been doing. We'll just do a little catch up. I got a new job at the end of July.
00:02:49
Speaker
So I've been going through training for that the past like nice five weeks. Thank you very much. Work from home gig. Very excited about it. So this coming up week will be my final week of training and then we're off to the races. So I'm very excited. So I've been, I honestly, that's been very, it's been very busy. It's like, it feels like I went back to school.
00:03:13
Speaker
there's just a lot of modules you have to take there's a lot of just material you have to learn yeah dude so it felt like i was back at school which was like you know a whole nightmare scenario for me because i hated school but it's been really great the trainers have been awesome i found some fellow nerd star wars nerds within
00:03:36
Speaker
within my crew, so it's kind of been fun. Yeah, so when, cause we had to have our cameras on when we were doing training. So my background, you can see it, Andrea, nobody else can see it, but I have a huge, I have the poster you gave me, which is one of my favorite posters of all time. And then I have some shelves up of, you know, random Star Wars books and some Funko pops. So it looks, it's a nice setup. So people have been commenting on that when they, when we've been meeting. So it's been kind of fun.
00:04:06
Speaker
But that's what I've been doing, literally just training. I mean, it's been it's been very busy pretty much every day, Monday through Friday, just going over materials and stuff like that. So it's been it's been good. But that's what I've been doing these past
Theme Park Adventures and Galaxy's Edge
00:04:20
Speaker
few weeks. Adria, what have you been up to, my friend? Let's talk about it. Listen, my life is never boring. This is true. And I can spin some tales of the life of Adria.
00:04:35
Speaker
And me and Carmen, we've been going to concerts, K-pop concerts. We got another one actually this week in Chicago. Nice, nice. We went to Cedar Point. If you live in the Midwest, Cedar Point is like a big deal. If you live in Michigan and Ohio, it's a big deal. It's something you do regularly. America's roller coast? Well, let me tell you, Lauren.
00:05:00
Speaker
I've heard the story. So wait, so you know how I I like roller coasters. I'm like, right. Yes, I can go on them and go hard and be like solid through through the whole freaking process. Right. Yep. Yep. Yep. That's why Emma likes going with me because she's the same way we can we can just go really hard on roller coasters. My son, he's he'll do it, but he's not like really pumped about it. Carmen, no roller coasters at all.
00:05:29
Speaker
The rest of my family, a little bit of the in-between. My sister really likes rides though. She hung in pretty well, but didn't go on some of the bigger, more aggressive ones. So we're like going, it's the day, right? And me and Emma have a fast lane plus and we're going on all the rides. Oh, you did fast lane? Like you were... Yeah, so we were like getting on the Millennium Force in like 15 minutes and getting on the Steel Vengeance in 20 and it was just wild.
00:05:58
Speaker
So Alex, it was his first time going on rides. First time ever going on the Magnum, going on the Gemini, any of that stuff. So he was loving it. And of course, I was just like the pusher. And I was like, let's go again, let's go again. We would get off and I'd be like, come on, let's just go on it again. It's great. Let's go on the Magnum. The pusher. Just pushing, pushing it. That sounds like a drug deal copy. I was. I was an adrenaline drug dealer.
00:06:29
Speaker
So, it's the end of the day, me and Emma, Emma, see, I can't, I'm gonna tell you how this has really affected me, so, because I am having problems. But anyway, me and Emma go on the Valraven, okay? So, have you been on that? No, you don't go on rights. You don't go, you hate rights. Okay, but it's like a...
00:06:52
Speaker
It drops you and swoops you and flips you upside down and all that crap. Super smooth, super awesome. So me and Emma go on that, walk right on it. Then right next to it is the Raptor. So we go on the Raptor. I remember that coming out a long time ago, but I remember that was a big ride. Yeah, it's an older ride. It has a track above. It flips you upside down. You do spirals, all that stuff. It's wild. And we take Alex on it.
00:07:20
Speaker
And he loves it. So he wants to go on again. And I'm like, sure, I'll go on again. So here's me going on three rides that flip upside down and go crazy within like 45 minutes.
00:07:33
Speaker
And prior to that, when me and Emma were in line for the Val Raven, I was telling her, like, the next time I go to Cedar Point, I'm only going with people that go on rides. And I'm just gonna hit rides like crazy. I'm just gonna go, I'm not gonna skip one. I'm not gonna say that's too, wait, it's too long. Boom, I'm going, I'm going on every ride. I was like, I feel solid. My stomach hasn't dropped. I feel so good. Like I could, I could get a season pass to Cedar Point. I am ready. Like I was ready.
00:08:01
Speaker
You were all in. I was baby. I was all in. Okay. Second time we go on the Raptor. We're in the first cart. Okay. First cart. Nothing in front of us. And I'm like feeling good still.
00:08:16
Speaker
But then like feeling, I got kind of anxious because my seat wasn't like locking in and the guy that should have locked my seat in was like flirting with this girl. So like I was, I was like, the anxiety started setting in in that moment. I'm like trying to pull my seat thing and it's not locking. Jen and Alex's is locked. Mine's not locking. I'm like, Oh my God, are we going to go in the sky? He's not even going to notice. I'm not locked. So, but fine. So that I had a moment of stress like right then.
00:08:45
Speaker
All right, so I blacked out on the ride. You totally blacked out? Totally blacked out, but came to in the middle of the ride, and I did not know what was going on. I didn't know if I was still strapped into the seat. I didn't know what part I was at. It just kept coming in like flashes.
00:09:07
Speaker
literally thinking think like traveling through the multiverse like that's what it was just screaming and falling and like and it was wild absolutely wild because I knew I had missed something I and I'm pretty sure I missed like the big loop that comes right after the drop
00:09:26
Speaker
And that's why like I've been on these rides so many times and I know what they're like. I know that I flat out blacked out, came in in the middle of it and it was wild. It was so wild. And then so, you know, I like have really vivid dreams. I have dreams where I have to actually like question if I'm awake or question if I'm dreaming.
00:09:47
Speaker
So in that moment, that's what I was doing with myself. And I was like, Oh my God, I think I'm in a, I'm in a dream and I wanted to get myself out of it. But then I realized like, no, I'm actually on a roller coaster. Cause it was scary, dude. It was so pretty scary. So then, so we get off the ride and I was like, everybody's like, Ooh, yeah. And I was like, no.
00:10:09
Speaker
I was like, I totally blacked out and they were like, what? And I like told them what happened. They got me some water and then I just wanted to get over it. So me and Carmen went and walked around and we went on like some little rides. And then later on I went back on a big ride. I went on gatekeeper and I was like, whatever, but didn't black out.
00:10:28
Speaker
So the problem was is all week I have been like confused as hell and like my brain isn't working. I'm starting to feel better like yesterday and today, but like on Thursday, like people were trying to explain things to me at work about like orders and a delivery and I couldn't even like comprehend like what was going on.
00:10:50
Speaker
and couldn't even explain myself when I wanted to try to solve what was going on I was like straight up confusion straight up losing my train of thought like non-stop it was wild so my weirdo-ness I during that time where I was super confused and things felt like hazy I was like that's it I really did die and I'm in this other dimension or something and things are just whack
00:11:21
Speaker
Right? I saw a tweet of BTS without their shirts on. Jimin was topless. I was like, this doesn't happen in the real world. I must be dead. That's amazing.
00:11:38
Speaker
I text Carmen, I was like, is this real life? And she was like, yeah, I forgot to tell you. I go, no, I'm pretty sure I died on that ride. And now BTS is allowed to show their chocolate chips to everybody. This is one of the greatest stories I've ever heard. I was like, Park Jimin is naked because I went in another dimension. I'm in the dimension where BTS is shirtless. All because of you. All because of you.
00:12:09
Speaker
But I've come back to reality, I feel a little bit better, but still I keep losing my train of thought and just kind of like, wah.
Reflecting on Three Years of Podcasting
00:12:17
Speaker
That's scary though. It was really scary. I make light of it now, but it really was scary because, I mean, I guess it's one thing to like pass out and wake up on the ground and like have people staring at you, but to pass out and then wake up in the middle of a roller coaster was unreal. Yeah, this is why I don't do roller coasters. Oh, I'm still gonna do them.
00:12:38
Speaker
Of course you are. I'm ready to go to Halloween. Oh, yeah, that's a big that's a big time for Cedar Point is that when like after Halloween they come they shut down for the season, right? Oh, yeah. Yeah, that makes me think like if you go to Galaxy's Edge, would you go on the rides? So we did. I mean, we did rise as a resistance. We did Star Tours, which was fun. Isn't it like, is there anything aggressive?
00:13:06
Speaker
I mean, I mean, in the park, it's like within Disney World, Disney Land, there are. But within Galaxy's Edge, there's I mean, the Millennium Falcon, we didn't do it, but I don't that's, you know, animation and all that crap. Rise of Resistance is really cool. That's I mean, you're actually in person to see a lot of that stuff, which is which is a lot of fun. But Star Tours is cool. So you're like strapped in. I don't know if you ever been on it, but you're strapped in.
00:13:34
Speaker
And it's all visual, like a screen. And you're in different, you go to different planets. C-3PO is the captain of the ship that you're on. It's a lot of fun. Again, I don't like roller coasters that you go fast, go up, down, all that stuff. So there's nothing like that as far as in Galaxy's Edge. Obviously, within the park there is.
00:14:02
Speaker
But I think I would do Star Tours, though, more. We only did it once because, again, I will a at that time. And I feel I feel bad for Katie because she probably wanted to do it a lot more. But like it was like towards the end of the night, my feet were freaking hurting because we've been at the convention all day.
00:14:20
Speaker
And it was like, I don't know what was like late. It was super late. We left around like one or two. So I was like tired as heck, but it was a lot of fun though. That like that Star Tours that we went on was cool. I would do that more, but like the roller coasters themselves, no, I would not, I would not do it at all. So like if you went to Universal, you wouldn't go on any of the Harry Potter rides?
00:14:45
Speaker
Probably not. I would have to look, but probably not. I mean, or any of the rides at Universal, really like the Transformer ride, Spider-Man, like that stuff is all screens and just like articulating of your seat, but it's still super pretty intense and aggressive. I would like to see you on one of those rides.
00:15:05
Speaker
I can I don't have to say like that's how I kind of thought Star Tours wasn't like you're dangling but you were in a seat and it like moved you around and stuff and Like if you dropped you felt it so I mean it was okay. It was fun. I still like
00:15:21
Speaker
I don't know if I would do that again, cause it wasn't that bad. The other one though, like you're saying, like where you're dangling, that might be a little too much. I don't know. Cause I hate there. I just hate, I just hate heights. And I hate like that, that dropping motion when you drop real fast. I hate it. That's just, that's just not for me.
00:15:41
Speaker
When we went to Universal, we took Carmen on the Hogwarts ride. Carmen hates rides, hates them. And I assumed because this ride was in a castle, right, that it was just going to be like a screen and your seat articulates. Well, this was like you literally felt like you were one flying on a broom, getting chased by dragons and dropping like it was and your seat really like articulated down.
00:16:06
Speaker
So, um, Oh my God, she hated it. It's like we scarred her. And now that I blacked out on that ride, I'm like, is that like how you feel when we took you on the Hogwarts ride? God, I'm so sorry. Then I realized I'm such a jerk for pushing people to go on rides when they're like, nah, I'm cool, bro. Like I need to take, sit this one out. And I'm like, you're a wimp. Let's go. Millennium force.
00:16:30
Speaker
You have a better appreciation for that now? Yeah, I do. I would allow people to sit one out anytime they wanted to. Yeah, I mean, you know, I mean, ever since I was young, you know that like, hey, I was always short, so I can never really go on the rides to begin with. True. But number two, though, I just was not a fan. I remember, I mean, I remember going to see the point with like,
00:16:54
Speaker
you and all, you know, all the fam and like you and Joey and Nicole would go on stuff, but I loved them. Right. And I just, I was like, no, I'll go in the teacup. I'll do the Matterhorn. I'll let go. I'll keep the gate. I got Carmen to go on the Matterhorn. She loved it. That's not bad. I can do stuff like that. That's cool.
00:17:11
Speaker
We're on. I was like, this is the best. This is such a like, it's so simple, but so fun. Right. You go up, you go down, circle. I can, I can deal with that stuff, but yeah. So big takeaway here, kids, is that I hate roller coasters. Andrea likes them. That's a big takeaway from, from this conversation right now.
00:17:32
Speaker
It was a blast. I mean, I bet. No, it is fun. I mean, like you said, in the Midwest, if Cedar Point's huge, it's big. It's a big spot to go to for sure. So that's what we've been doing, everybody. I mean, just to give you guys a life life update for us. But we're back. We're ready to talk some Star Wars. But before we do that, though, Andrea, three years this month, August is three years of doing this podcast.
00:18:02
Speaker
What the hell were we doing? Yeah. That's kind of where I'm at with it for some reason. It's funny. I was listening to, and we'll talk about it in a little bit. I was listening to our episode two, which was like in August of 2019.
00:18:21
Speaker
I mean, we, we kind of, we definitely had like, had it had a good like beginning, you know, and we kind of had it down. But again, I am surprised that we still do this. I mean, I have a little too, but I think, I think we have too much fun doing it though, to be honest, you know? Yeah. And.
00:18:41
Speaker
When we first started, we were recording together in the same room off of the same recorder, and now we've evolved into being in different places, utilizing different pieces of software and equipment. I think that's part of the reason why
Opinions on Star Wars Prequels and Sequels
00:18:59
Speaker
I think we're still cool with it is because we have the tools, and we're good with tools, and it's not difficult for us just to jump right on and crank one out. No, I agree with you on that one.
00:19:11
Speaker
what we have done in three years, like I'm proud of us, like just being able to do this. I mean, consistently. I mean, obviously we take breaks. I mean, I think both of us would say if you do a podcast, I recommend taking breaks because it can get like mentally draining at times. Right. I mean, we've just been doing this three years and there's been times where you and I have taken breaks. We're like, yeah, I do. We needed it. Like we need to do it. Absolutely. We need to do it.
00:19:42
Speaker
But I think that doing this for three years, it has been so much fun just being able to talk Star Wars with you, but then also to know so many other people that do this, and we get to talk to and interact with, that's been a big highlight too. Just the fun that we do together, but the friendships we've made,
00:20:08
Speaker
It's just been a lot of fun. I mean, I remember our first, one of our very first like guest spots we did was with Jerry and Scotty.
00:20:18
Speaker
I'm so fun. Right. I mean, it was that was one of the first times we were guests on a show and then that turned into some more spots that we did. And then we just started just doing our show and just having a lot of fun with it. And I think that's been a huge, huge thing for me. But yeah, I I am a little bit surprised that we're still.
00:20:41
Speaker
We're still doing this a little bit. But again, like you said, though, we have everything in front of us and it's not that hard for us to just jump on and start doing this because we've been doing this. I mean, I know three years doesn't sound like a long time, but it kind of like in a podcast, I feel like in a podcast sense, it kind of is. Don't you? I don't know if you feel that way. Like three years is like a long time in podcast years, I feel like.
00:21:06
Speaker
I think so too because I think sometimes when people want to do a podcast it's like on a whim and it's like a phase. They get really passionate about something and then all of a sudden that passion dies down and that podcast just doesn't stick around.
00:21:27
Speaker
What's good is that we are obsessed with Star Wars and new content comes out all the time and we geek out on it every single time. So, um, I mean, that that's why I like doing this is just to be able to have these conversations with you. So, no, me too. Cause I mean, honestly, before this, I mean, it was just us anyway at our family functions. And we've told that story a million times. I mean, this is,
00:21:56
Speaker
what we do when we are at family functions. And we were just literally at our grandpa's birthday. And we were talking. We were talking Star Wars. Ninety four. Right. Ninety four. Ninety three. Yeah. Ninety three or ninety four. This is why. This is why we do this. Yeah. Gramps. But we were talking Star Wars. Like we were talking about like what we were thinking about and or all that stuff. I mean, the Andor trailer, I think, dropped at that time.
00:22:23
Speaker
so we were talking about that stuff so it's just it's been i think that's a big thing is that it's a natural thing for us just to talk star wars to just be able to
00:22:37
Speaker
express our feelings on it. And then we just literally took that and turned it into a podcast three years ago. And it's been a lot of fun. I mean, it has been, it has been a lot of fun. I three years and highlights any, any highlights for you? Any moments shows that stick out? I know we've talked about it, you know, often, but anything three years now, anything pop off to you highlight wise? Well, I don't know about how highlight wise, but looking back, um,
00:23:07
Speaker
the rise of Skywalker scarred me. We'll talk about it because my dog just snorted. We'll talk about that. Right. We'll talk about that because it was that was a cool moment though because that was the first Star Wars movie you and I saw together opening night. That was a lot of fun with our family.
00:23:28
Speaker
But that whole journey up to it was amazing. That was like a highlight for me is, you know, just us getting on and creating episodes about speculation and theories and our anticipation. That was really like the height I think of, well, I mean, not the height of us, but like the height of like just doing this very innocently, you know, and just like getting,
00:23:56
Speaker
thrown into the emotion of what we were getting ready to see. So it was really fun in those moments. So I really did the up to the Rise of Skywalker.
00:24:11
Speaker
But another highlight for me is really when we started this, I had only watched movies. I hadn't read a Star Wars book, a Star Wars comic. I had only watched some of the Clone Wars, none of Rebels. I wasn't into stuff like that and now that I am and it consumes my life. So that is my biggest highlight of this journey is being able to just learn new things about Star Wars.
00:24:38
Speaker
Yeah, I mean, just think about within that, within our three years of doing this, obviously, we've had Rise of Skywalker come out. But then we also had Mandalorian season one, season two, Boba Fett. We had Bad Batch. We've had Clone Wars season seven. We've had a lot of books, comics. Kenobi. Kenobi. We've had a lot of books, comics come out with all this time frame.
00:25:07
Speaker
So it's crazy to think about how much content there has been since we started three years ago. Like it's kind of insane. And then just like we were just talking about earlier, like what's coming down the pipe after, you know, Andor. We have Bad Batch season two. We have, uh, we're getting a vision, Star Wars vision season two next year. We're getting Mandalores in season three. We're getting Ahsoka. We're getting Andor season two.
00:25:38
Speaker
And then suppose we're getting,
Current Star Wars Engagements and Breaks
00:25:40
Speaker
we're supposed to get a movie. 2023 supposedly, supposedly. And I think real quick, I think we'll hear something at D 23 in a few weeks. I do. I have not Disney plus day, but D 23 that Saturday, which I think is like the eighth or ninth. I think they'll drop.
00:26:02
Speaker
the movie and the release date for it. I do. I just feel like that's going to happen. We'll probably get a director tied to it. I think that's when we'll get that news. I do. I do. Because I don't think we can, I mean, we can live off of Disney+. We have been for the past couple of years and it's been fine. But I think there has to be a movie. Do you agree with that?
00:26:28
Speaker
Meh. That's fair. I was scarred by the rise of Skywalker. That's fair. I will never recover. Well, there were some highlights in that movie. Yeah, we'll talk about that in a minute. Yeah, we'll talk about it in a minute. But I mean, so there's so much content.
00:26:51
Speaker
within any medium within Star Wars in the past three years. I have a whole bookshelf that I'm looking at of books that I have some read, some I haven't even touched. There's so much content to go through and I'm so behind on books. Yeah, what Star Wars have you been doing lately? Anything Star Wars-y you've been doing? Honestly, I played the Lego Star Wars.
00:27:16
Speaker
Literally, that's it. I mean, I actually did it. I watched Rogue One a few weeks ago when Andor dropped that trailer. I think I watched it before that, though. No, I don't. It's weird. Like, I don't know if this is how it happened. Like, I don't know if you're you are like this, too. But like when we started this three years ago, yeah, I was like all about all about it. I tried to keep up with all the content. Now I'm just like,
00:27:47
Speaker
If I can, you know, I'll listen to the audiobook like I'm in the middle of What's the book that just came out with Lando and Luke shadow of the set I'm in that like I'm trying to audio listen to that But I haven't read a book or comic in a minute like that's that's where I'm at. I don't watch I don't know why it's weird I don't watch the movies a lot and
00:28:14
Speaker
Recently, I haven't watched rebels which rebels is always my go-to That's always my go-to if I really want to watch since the Star Wars. I haven't watched that in a minute I know man. I don't know if it's just I needed like a total mental break from Star Wars
00:28:28
Speaker
But that's kind of where I've been the last, at least few weeks, maybe even before that though, for sure. I haven't really consumed a ton of Star Wars rewatches or anything like that. What about you? What have you been doing? All I watch is Star Wars. I mean, no, and that's great. I mean, sometimes I do breaks and I do a Netflix break and then I watch documentaries and things like that. But every night I watch a Star War.
00:28:57
Speaker
I read Shadow of the Sith. I read Brotherhood. I'm reading Rebel Rising right now. So I stay very well. And everyone's like, I watched the Siege of Mandalore the other day. Holy crap, that is so good. So good. Yeah, I got a Star Wars tattoo of Space Jesus. You know, I'm just super locked in in Star Wars.
00:29:27
Speaker
all the time. I'm kind of, it wasn't supposed to be so Jesus-y, but Jesus. It's a cool, it's a cool thing to do. It's Jesus. Have you posted that yet? Yeah, I posted it yesterday. Cause someone I drive through was like, cause I go to hand money to people and you can see it. And this person was like, is that Jesus or? And I was like, it's Obi-Wan Kenobi. It's our Lord and savior Obi-Wan Kenobi. Exactly. And they were like, yeah.
00:29:56
Speaker
I was like, yeah. Oh, that's I mean, when people see it, they're like, whoa, that's like Catholic Jesus lookout. But they're like, he bought you and McGregor and Obi-Wan Kenobi. So well done. It's it's beautiful. It's absolutely beautiful. Yeah, I know that's it is a salad tattoo for sure. But yeah, but you know, to to bring it back to how I bit like, I'm the same way with Marvel shows to like, I'll watch him.
00:30:24
Speaker
Like I haven't rewatched WandaVision, Falcon Winter Soldier, I like Loki, which I loved every single show, but I don't go back and rewatch him lately. Usually I have, like with Star Wars, when like when Clone Wars season seven came out, I rewatched a bunch of times. When, you know, Mando came out, I've watched that a bunch of times. I haven't done a Mando rewatch in a minute. I did it, I think I've done maybe
00:30:54
Speaker
to like fully rewatch of season one, season two since it came out.
00:31:00
Speaker
You know, I just, I don't know, recently I'm just like, I just want to de-plug a little bit from Star Wars and just other like geeky stuff. You know, but I've been really, again, like this whole training with many jobs been very consuming at this point. But I think once I get into the, you know, once that's done getting the job, I'll, I'll start rewatching a bunch of stuff for sure. But that's where, that's where I've been. That's where I've been. Anything else Star Wars you've been doing?
00:31:28
Speaker
No, just trying to figure out where I go from here. I keep playing with maybe I need to go back into the High Republic and get a little bit more acclimated since the next phase is going to be coming up. I'm still behind in High Republic too and I love that phase.
00:31:47
Speaker
but and then I think man there still are tons of books out there that I haven't read like Leia Princess of Alderaan or um I mean there's not much I've pretty much flown through a lot of it so um we shall see
00:32:04
Speaker
Yeah, there's just a lot. And you and I have talked about doing book reviews again, because that's been fun when we did those episodes. Those have been really fun episodes. So we'll have to get back into that for sure.
Prequels vs. Sequels: Changing Preferences
00:32:19
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But speaking of three years, Andrea, coming December, this December, it will be three years since Rise of Skywalker.
00:32:30
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five years since Last Jedi, seven years since The Force Awakens. Wow. That's crazy. That's crazy. Isn't that weird? That's super weird to think about. And our very, this is episode two of ours was when we talked about prequels versus sequels. And at that time, Rise of Skywalker hadn't come out yet. So that was a really fun conversation because we had a lot of theories like you were talking about earlier.
00:32:58
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which a lot of them didn't pan out, but that's okay. But I think what, for me, I don't know, like during that episode, we talked about like our favorite prequel, prequel movies and moments and things like that. I don't think much has changed for me as far as how I, how I would quote unquote rank that stuff.
00:33:26
Speaker
Because I mean, I like every single unit. When we talked about that in that episode, I like parts of every single movie, just like you said. I mean, you and I have talked about that a million times on the show that in every Star Wars content, there's something that we like and enjoy and gravitate to. So when it comes to prequels for sequels now or prequels, you know, however you want to word it. Now that we have the full trilogies of each.
00:33:55
Speaker
Is there one for you that you do enjoy more than the other? And like, what is, is there reasons for that or, or have that, have your feelings not really changed that much within the past, like three years?
00:34:13
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My feelings have changed a lot. When I listened to the episode we're referring to, it's episode two, prequels versus sequels, I was not a prequel fan. I was appreciative of them and their connection, but I did not like them.
00:34:34
Speaker
I did and I didn't, but I definitely in that moment of time, three years ago, liked the sequels better. And I felt like it gave you more. They were more fun to watch because you did not know what was going to happen next. Like that was the premise of why I liked the sequel so much is just because you didn't know what was going to happen on the territory.
00:35:00
Speaker
I mean, in the prequels, you knew Anakin was going to turn into Darth Vader and the Jedi order was going to fall, like, and then the Emperor was going to reign over the galaxy, like, you knew what was going to happen. And the execution of the prequels, I had problems with. So I was like, sequels over prequels any day, right? But
00:35:31
Speaker
big change. What change? Yeah, whatever. So once the Rise of Skywalker came out, it
00:35:48
Speaker
it's that guessing game was no longer there with the sequels you know that anticipation of what if oh my god but what if this like you got it it wasn't anything any of us were really expecting and it wasn't actually
00:36:04
Speaker
executed as well in the Rise of Skywalker so it kind of as a whole dropped the ranking of the sequels all together like all of a sudden like it got put into this big group for me and I was like trash don't like it anymore you know it's completely disconnected there was no solid on storyline I hated it
00:36:29
Speaker
no more, let's go back to the prequels where I have more information that's helping me connect these parts I didn't like and I can appreciate it more, right? Because I started watching the Clone Wars and I was seeing the relationship of Obi-Wan and Anakin and the relationship of Anakin and Ahsoka and I was like, okay, I can totally appreciate more now who Anakin was.
00:36:57
Speaker
and what he did, because that was my biggest gripe with the prequels, was that Anakin was a whiny, emotional teenager and young adult that I just did not care for. I didn't care for the execution of that person. The connection wasn't there. Right. Yeah. And I also didn't care for the execution of what the Jedi were because I didn't get it. I didn't get that.
00:37:21
Speaker
We weren't supposed to like the Jedi that they were actually not what we thought they were and they were falling apart to their own like on their own. Like it was it was themselves their own detriment. Right. Yeah. It was like creating their failure.
00:37:37
Speaker
So now that I have more pieces, I love the prequels now. I even like Attack of the Clones. It's funny. I read Brotherhood, and there's parts in that book where Anna can reflect on some of those things he said in Attack of the Clones to Padme and thinks about how foolish he sounded. So it's kind of cool to get those little types of things
00:38:02
Speaker
Just, again, added more information to it, makes me change my opinion to it. So I watched the prequels the most now, I think. And I feel like it's more of a solid story. It has more purpose. I don't know what the purpose is in the sequels. I don't know. I just don't know. I don't know. You know? So yeah, I get it. I get it.
00:38:32
Speaker
I don't know if much has changed. For me, because I think when we first started, when we first started this, I was already into rebels. I believe at that point, I'd watch Clone Wars. So my appreciation for the prequels was a little higher, only because I had those stories told to me already. Like you were talking about like Clone Wars, like
00:39:03
Speaker
that connection of Obi-Wan and Anakin like made way more sense to me during the prequels after I watched Clone Wars. Just like you said, just like you were saying. So like my prequel love was there. It may be not my favorite. Like I talked about in that episode, like Attack of the Clones isn't my quote unquote favorite Star Wars movie, but I love that movie.
00:39:29
Speaker
so much because of what it did for a lot of different characters, for Obi-Wan, for Anakin, for Padme, for the Jedi Order itself. That movie really set everything in motion. And then Clone Wars picked it up, told a cohesive story, and then that led to Revenge of the Sith. So I love that whole connectivity of it.
00:39:57
Speaker
through the movies to Clone Wars to Revenge of the Sith. The sequel trilogy, again, I do appreciate a lot of moments in the overall trilogy. Like the characters of Rey and Kylo are still one of my favorite characters. Like Rey's journey, I loved it. Even though I might have not liked some of the aspects of it, I appreciate
00:40:26
Speaker
her character, because her character in Force Awakens made me want to dive into Star Wars more. I've talked about that a lot. Like, I will forever love Rey as a character. I will love Kylo, because again, I like his character. I like how it's very, not Anakin-esque, but it's that vein of bad to good or however you want to look at it.
00:40:53
Speaker
So I like the sequel trilogy as a whole as
Focusing on Positives in Star Wars
00:40:56
Speaker
well. Do I prefer the prequels a little bit over the sequels? Maybe, but again, I think it's because like we're talking about, we have a more complete story in that era.
00:41:11
Speaker
Like when we start getting more sequel trilogy content that puts more of that story together, that could change a lot, right? I mean, if we get a whole say animated show that like connects stuff in between like the gaps within the trilogy or whatnot, I might, yeah, I mean, I'll probably appreciate that sequel trilogy more.
00:41:36
Speaker
But until then I'll have to, I will have to default and say prequels only because again, we have more, like we're talking about more stories, more connectivity to that era than we have at the moment in the sequel trilogy. We have a lot of content within sequel trilogy like comics, novels, things like that.
00:41:58
Speaker
But I don't know if we'll, you know, hopefully this is my big hope is that they do give us some continuation or some type of, you know, connection more with the sequel trilogy. So I really do. I really do. Like, I hope we get like a ray, a ratio or a fin show or something like give us more of those characters. I don't want those characters just to kind of fade in the background.
00:42:24
Speaker
And they have, really. And I think that's why I think the sequel trilogy is like weak sauce. It's weak, like super weak. Like if you think about The Force Awakens,
00:42:39
Speaker
I mean, you even said it yourself, the story is a slight ripoff of A New Hope, right? In the moment, it was okay for us to see that because we were wanting nostalgia and wanting to feel Star Wars again, and that's what they delivered to us.
00:42:58
Speaker
I mean, don't get me wrong, The Force Awakens has some unbelievably amazing Star Wars moments executed perfectly. Some of the greatest Star Wars moments that I can put up in something, you know, it made me a Star Wars fan again. So I'm not saying it's bad. I'm saying the storyline is weak. That's fair. No.
00:43:27
Speaker
I don't disagree. I think there's aspects of the story that they, the, the, the thread within the sequel trilogy. It's not the greatest. Like you're saying it's not the, the, the, the, some of the threads aren't the best. I can't disagree with you, but what I, I think what you and I have done in the last three years, though,
00:43:54
Speaker
is look at, okay, what do we like and why? Could we totally come on here and just bash every single thing that we don't like on Star Wars? We could. We could, but we find the good. Exactly. That's what we have done the past three years and we will continue to do.
00:44:14
Speaker
But we will not again, I think that's one thing you and I have done to the past three years is, hey, if we don't like something, we'll mention it. We'll talk about it. But we're not just going to like hate on it. We'll be like, well, you know, maybe we didn't like this aspect, but we love this. And this is why.
00:44:31
Speaker
You know, we have we have had those conversations. I mean, perfect examples when we did Boba Fett, that one episode, you're like, no, dude, I couldn't get down with the with the with the mod squad. Too shiny like that stuff like that made sense, because again, you weren't alone, though. You there were a lot of people that felt that way. You know, so again, if you look at the sequel trilogy, it's the same thing, like a lot of people.
00:44:56
Speaker
didn't like certain things about that trilogy, which I can't, again, I'm not gonna say your opinion is wrong. People can have them. We just choose, I think, to look at it differently and we choose to enjoy it in certain aspects. Would you agree with that? I think that's how we are.
00:45:17
Speaker
Oh yeah, absolutely. Um, because we're not like black and white people. We're not like, uh, it's good or it's bad. You know, I come back to a couple, uh, times where I've watched either YouTube reaction videos or I've, you know, even just
Defending The Last Jedi and Sequel Trilogy
00:45:36
Speaker
had conversations with my son and this one part just flicks them off from liking the entire, um, episode. And it's, it's weird to see that like, but there's still good in it.
00:45:47
Speaker
I will say this though about people, about sequel haters, okay? Anybody that hates On The Last Jedi, I have to really disagree on it. It is the best out of the three movies. It is the most well executed Star Wars movie.
00:46:12
Speaker
Yes, the story is weak, but the moments that you get out of it made you think more deeply about Star Wars lore more than things that happened in the original trilogy. Literally, fight me. I don't care. I'm dead serious. It made us truly believe and want
00:46:31
Speaker
force sensitive people to come out of nowhere, and they should have, and they absolutely should have. And the realizations that Luke brought to the forefront about the Jedi and the Jedi Council were right on. That story was right on. But yes, the entire storyline of the sequel trilogy
00:46:53
Speaker
trilogy is weak, but The Last Jedi is a freaking fantastic story and a fantastic movie. It is just perfect. And the way the rest of the trilogy kind of lost its impactfulness because the route they went with
00:47:14
Speaker
The Rise of Skywalker, it kind of, you know, it bothers me because it had such high potential. It really, really did. And I hate that a louder group, I think affected the outcome of the sequel trilogy altogether and made it this flat piece of garbage. So I will fight people on The Last Jedi. I do not think it's garbage. I think it's one of the best executed Star Wars.
00:47:43
Speaker
I agree. I mean, I can't. It's hard for me to understand that five years later, people will still complain about that movie. It's crazy. It's so good. I don't get it.
00:47:59
Speaker
Here's another like what I don't understand as well is again. You don't have to like to ride the Skywalker. That's fine You don't have to like the last Jedi. That's fine. You don't even have to like the force wakens you could not Have enjoyed the sequel trilogy. That's your prerogative. Go ahead like again. That's fine and We're not gonna sit here
00:48:20
Speaker
and say that everything in the sequel trilogy was trash, because it wasn't, I'm sorry, there wasn't. There was something in every single movie that I think enhanced the Star Wars lore and made it better. There are moments within The Force Awakens, Last Jedi and the Rise of Skywalker that made Star Wars better.
00:48:45
Speaker
That's something I will say you can fight me on because I honestly believe that. I do, I believe that there is something in every single movie that improve the Star Wars lore.
00:48:57
Speaker
whether you want to see it or whether you, you know, say no, that's fine. But I'll come at you or I would love to have a conversation with those people. They're like, no, the entire thing was trash. Was it all trash? Because no, I don't believe that. I don't. I don't think the entire trilogy was worthless as some some part of the fandom will say, like redo it, decanonize it, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
00:49:23
Speaker
No, I don't believe that I don't believe that that should happen. This movie, those movies were were important. It completed the saga, whether you liked it or not, that's fine. That's a whole that's a discussion that I would love to have. But there are moments within each movie that you at least I and I can and I'll let you answer this, too, but I think there are moments where you're like, man, yeah,
00:49:52
Speaker
This is Star Wars. This is Star Wars. This is why I love Star Wars. This gives me a deeper understanding of the force or a deeper understanding of this character, that character. Like there are moments within each movie that do that.
00:50:07
Speaker
in the sequel trilogy. I don't know if you agree with that or how you feel, but that's kind of how I feel about it. Yeah, I mean, what do you think are some of those moments? For me, the final scene with Kylo Ren and Harrison Ford in The Force Awakens, I mean, very impactful, very emotional. Going back to this struggle, inner struggle between
00:50:34
Speaker
um family and and all of that i mean just that that's top tier star wars right there you know um and then even the fight with fin and kylo and ray in in the woods and in the end and the sound and the music the execution around that um you know fin lighting the um lightsaber um ray grabbing the lightsaber i mean that that's again that's some
00:51:03
Speaker
Those are Star Wars moments that give me goosebumps and will continue to give me goosebumps. The battle scene on Crete with Kylo and Luke, I mean, that is the most Jedi. I mean, that's very reminiscent to the end of Return of the Jedi, of the way Luke executed that standoff.
00:51:30
Speaker
So the rise of Skywalker, hang on, I think I might be able to get a good part.
00:51:36
Speaker
There are good parts in it for sure. Yeah, I know. There are good parts in the Rise of Skywalker. We joke about that for sure. We do. You and I have had conversations about that, but yeah. No, there is. I mean, just to learn the connection of Kylo and Ben Solo and Rey and that different aspect of the Force and the way the Force problems were escalated in that movie was dope.
00:52:03
Speaker
I mean, it really was needed. I mean, let's push the envelope of what you can do with the force. And they did that in the rise of Skywalker. And I loved it. They did it in the Last Jedi too with bridging their minds. It was great. So yeah, again, those are moments that stand out to me when I see them and continue to watch them. I'm like, this is good, right? This is good. But overall, kind of weak.
00:52:27
Speaker
No, that's fair. I mean, that's totally fair. I think, I don't, obviously I don't think you're alone in the, in that feeling. I think for me, you know, again, when you look at the prequels, like, like you said, we, we knew as fans what the outcome was going to be. We just saw how it played out, you know, which was fine and it was good, but we knew that Anakin was going to become Darth Vader at some point.
00:52:55
Speaker
And we had that story, which was great. But again, I think what makes the prequels a lot more loved is because of Clone Wars and the connections that it made with those films.
00:53:14
Speaker
The other thing is with the prequels, I mean, it was a true Jedi story. You know, it was a Jedi story. The sequels, not so much. It's kind of just more like a galaxy story. So that's kind of a little bit why I love the prequels a little bit more now. It's because it goes back to Jedi.
00:53:39
Speaker
the force. It's so much stronger with that lore than the sequel trilogies are. Yeah, I think the sequel, what the sequel trilogy did in my eyes too, is that, you know, like if you look at the original trilogy, it was a, it was a movie about a small group of people, right? Lucan, Leia, Chewie, like it was their story. And I think that's what the sequel trilogy
00:54:05
Speaker
was doing as well as you were following the small group of Ray, Finn, Poe, Chewie, C-3PO. You were following that group and what they were going through at that time.
00:54:22
Speaker
You know, whereas like you're saying, the prequels really set up a more, for me, a more galaxy wide, like, oh, this is what was going on in the galaxy. Like this was what was going on in different parts of this entire world. You know, whereas I think the original trilogy and sequel trilogy were more concentrated stories of certain characters.
00:54:50
Speaker
Dark side light side right right. That's fair. That's fair. No, I I agree So again, I mean it's fun. It's fun to reflect on these last three years because again three years has a Skywalker five four Last Jedi and seven for the force awakens like that's that's crazy to think about that. We've had seven years
00:55:16
Speaker
three new movies within those past seven years. And how much other content have we've had in these past seven years? It's been insane. You know, like the rebels really kicked it off. Cause that came out before the force awakens. I believe I'd have to, I can't, if I'm remembering correctly. So like you had a lot of, a lot of content. We've had, we have had a lot of content since the force awakening came out seven years ago.
00:55:46
Speaker
And even in between all that, we had Solo and we had Rogue One, which are some great movies. I love those movies. Those did some really great character development stuff in those films. So again, you don't have to love everything that comes out and has Star Wars on it. And that's fine. We're not saying you have to.
00:56:14
Speaker
But my thing is that don't just hate it just because a certain group tells you you should hate it or don't hate it just because your own thoughts and what you thought was gonna happen didn't come true, so you hate it. I understand it can be frustrating, right? Because as fans, we want what's in our head to like, oh yeah, see, they were on the same page as we were.
00:56:43
Speaker
But that's not gonna happen every time. Will it sometimes? Yeah. Yeah, it will. Like we, I mean, like, for example, when you and I talked about Boba Fett, we understood what they were doing with that character. And we, and a lot of other people did too. Now I'd say I'm not just say us. A lot of other podcasts and a lot of other people understood what the story of Boba Fett was telling. It was telling about the story of a guy that was going through a lot.
00:57:10
Speaker
And how that changed him and what changed he went through and how that happened. And the directors and creators even said that and behind the gallery, they were like, yeah, dude, we're not going to tell a story of a guy just going around kicking butt. What's the story? You know, that's, you know, I'm paraphrasing what John Favreau said in that, in that gallery, like.
00:57:32
Speaker
There has to be, what's the, you know, what's the, what's the story? What is a story? Like, I think people get, want so many things, you know, like everybody, I mean, and we've talked about this too, like everybody's like, well, I want a Vader series. I want a Vader series. Okay. What's the story? If it's a good story within that timeframe you want, yeah, I'll also, I'll watch it. But I, I don't want a Vader series just so you,
00:58:01
Speaker
or whoever wants to see Vader just kill people all the time. What is that? What story is that? We've seen that a bunch of times now. What's the story? Give me a story. That's where I think we need to get to. I don't know if you agree with that or not. I would love to see Vader killing things. I know you would.
00:58:27
Speaker
No, you know that's not true. I would love to see Vader struggle internally and show that he is, there's something going on behind all of his mechanics. Which we know is true. You know, we've seen it in the comics. Like, we know the internal struggle. That would be a great show to see, right? I would love to see Hayden Christensen play as Darth Vader struggling with his thoughts and emotions.
00:58:56
Speaker
So what I, I, again, that's a story. That's a story. And within that story, right. But within that story, like you're saying though, but right within that story, he's gonna rage out and he's going to have to like hurt people. Okay. I get it. That's part of the story. But what's the other half of that though? Right. And I think that's what kind of Favreau was saying. Like,
00:59:18
Speaker
Yeah, Boba Fett could kick bubble. What's the other half of that story? Oh, the way that was executed was perfect. I mean, honestly, it was it was perfect. It was not what I was expecting, but exactly what it should have been. That in that's that's what I want out of Star Wars. Like I want to see stories that I did not expect to see. And I just don't feel like the sequels produced that. So that's why I in this moment in
00:59:47
Speaker
August 21st of 2022 I'm a little bit of a hater on the sequels overall but I mean we saw every with the expectation of what we saw was everything we've seen before besides the Last Jedi but the the bookends of it really was and which is a pretty big disappointment
01:00:07
Speaker
So now we get to see some great content on Disney Plus from creators that are all in on this, right? So that's the other thing I have somewhat of a problem with, right?
01:00:22
Speaker
the choice of JJ Abrams, right? So that he's not an all in Star Wars person. He's he is good at directing a story and special effects and and those types of things. Um, but I don't feel like his commitment to Star Wars Star Wars was enough to give you a quality story. Ryan Johnson was hands down. Like you could see like
01:00:48
Speaker
He he not only he didn't do his homework. He's been in it the entire time. He knew it was up He came not came prepared. He is he's in it like he knew what was up so That there will always be another complaint of mine not that different people directed stories but that One of the choices was not as strong as it should have been hands down
01:01:15
Speaker
That's fair. No, that's fair. These are all legit. I think concerns. I think a
Potential Vader Series Discussion
01:01:20
Speaker
lot of people have, you know, and it's not hating. I wouldn't say it's hating. It's just expressing your concern or what, you know, some issues or gripes you might have. I hate them. You know what I'm saying? I just watched the take of the clones and when Anakin says to Padme, I hate them. Oh, look, I feel that.
01:01:49
Speaker
But yeah, I again I I Will still I think overall I will still love the prequels a little more than the sequels But again if we start when they start and I hope they start because I don't want these I think I think you and I both agree with this like I don't want those these characters that they created in a sequel trilogy to fade away and
01:02:13
Speaker
Well, I mean, they kind of have like so with Shadow of the Sith. I mean, they really tied up the rise of Skywalker. Like what Lando is on Passana, like Lando was searching for Ochi with Luke. Like what? Ray's parents, Ray's dad is is, you know, Palpatine's whatever like like there's he was cloning things like.
01:02:40
Speaker
It was like, what? And it was like real fast. The Shadow of the Sith really gives you and the Rise of Skywalker novelization really gives you the in-between the line of explanation on those things, which has been great. It does make me appreciate the sequel trilogy a little bit better. I just I just feel like it was a little bit too much backtracking.
01:03:04
Speaker
Like, I don't feel like the Clone Wars is backtracking. I think it's enhancement. That's expanding. Yeah, I see what you're saying. No, that's fair. And maybe again, maybe when we get these stories post The Rise of Skywalker, maybe that will expand those movies, you know, like if we get a ratio or if we get a fin or whatever, like,
01:03:31
Speaker
Maybe that will enhance or expand the sequel trilogy overall. I hope so. Again, we'll, I think both you and I have said, we will watch all those movies, prequels, original trilogy, sequels.
Rewatching Star Wars Films
01:03:47
Speaker
anytime we want, and we will find enjoyment. I mean, you and I saw the Rise of Skywalker, what, six times together in the theaters, I think? Yeah, I mean, I went and saw it a lot because, one, again, like you said, I like Rey. I like Rey as a character. I also like Rey in the Rise of Skywalker because I think she's at her highest potential there. And I really like her in the Rise of Skywalker. So, yeah, I went and saw it a lot.
01:04:17
Speaker
But but then again, I just like feeling Star Wars and being in Star Wars. The threads, I think, like you're saying, the threads aren't as tightly woven than you could say in the prequels or original trilogy. But to be fair, though, too, I mean, it's if you look at each trilogy, like each trilogy was on its own, like a little sometimes like wonky.
01:04:47
Speaker
Like, for example, in the original trilogy, right? Luke, you thought that Luke and Leia and Han would be like this love triangle, right? Well, then what happens in, you know, Return of the Jedi is we find out that Leia is Luke's brother. Like after they kiss in Empire Strikes Back. That's weird, bro. You know what I'm saying? Like, but you know what I'm saying? That's not that I mean, but you know what I'm saying? Like,
01:05:15
Speaker
It's not always planned. Star Wars at times has not always been perfectly planned out to be fair. You know what I'm saying? Like George didn't go, okay, each original trilogy, Leia, it was always going to be Luke's sister. No, that wasn't the case. You know what I'm saying? It went from movie to movie almost. And that's kind of how the sequel trilogy felt.
01:05:46
Speaker
many ways for me like that's how I felt like it went from movie to movie it wasn't the thread wasn't as tight as it should have been that's like yeah but the thread was like okay so we go from Poe like being this star ace pilot leader of the resistance to he used to be a drug dealer
01:06:07
Speaker
Right. He used to run Spice. So these changes that were made in the sequel trilogy did not strengthen the story. It actually made you think like, what the F? That's fair. No, I get what you're saying.
01:06:24
Speaker
famously obviously and and Also, like Ray could have been a nobody and the four that I'm present and then they're like, nope Choose Palpatine. That's probably my biggest Biggest gripe or biggest I think they missed the mark with the sequel trilogy is having Ray be from lineage and
01:06:49
Speaker
And you and I talked about that on our episode, prequels or sequels. I wanted her to be brave from nowhere. I loved what they set up in The Last Jedi, but they didn't follow through. And that's fine. That's a choice that they made.
01:07:05
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is what it is, and I had to get over it, you know? So I'm cooler with her being a Palpatine now after reading Shadow of the Sith, because I knew that there was this storyline of her being sought after. That's fair. Going into this now. So I'm like, oh, I, because before it was just like, she was from nowhere, like, and then all of a sudden we're going to make her something huge, like,
01:07:32
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Now reading Shadow of the Sith, I am cool with her being a Palpatine. But they had to, like you said a little bit. But not a Skywalker. They had to backtrack a little bit. Yeah, they did. Right?
01:07:45
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So I'm cool with her being a Palpatine. I am cool with her being a Skywalker, too.
Rey's Lineage and Saga Impact
01:07:50
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I mean, I don't think it was necessary. I do think the choice of title for that movie was garbage. They never should have had it called The Rise of Skywalker. It was complete fan service. They were just trying to bait people. Rawr. I mean, that's fair. That's fair. I don't hate.
01:08:07
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her being named or being a lineage of a Palpatine or taking the Skywalker name that I've never had issues with it. I just wish they didn't go that route. That's just been my thing. I always wish they would have just kept her. Like just the vessel from the force, and it kind of chose her to be this this person, but that didn't happen. That's OK. I'm going to be a Skywalker. Did I tell you?
01:08:40
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Did I tell you I'm like, over my last names? And I was like, you got two Skywalker? Yeah, I mean, my middle name is Ray. So I was like, Andrea Ray Skywalker. It's perfect. I kind of like it. I mean, I'd be down for it. Why not? Why not? Do it. Do it. Do it. Do it.
01:08:58
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Anything else and you want to bring up before we wrap it all up. No, this was fun No, this was fun. This was a fun conversation. These are like the typical conversations It just feels right out of podcast so yeah, I think overall again We We enjoy
01:09:22
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Each trilogy on its own in different ways. Doesn't mean we love it and you can never like backtalk it. Or I would never stop watching it. Like people that won't rewatch The Last Jedi, that blows my mind. Like that, that's ignorance right there. Like you, you're not going to watch it again. You're not going to take in a little bit more information and watch it again. That blows my mind.
01:09:53
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That's fair. No, I agree that there there's a point where you just have to either I I just want to say accept what what is but like it's almost to that point where like listen, they're not gonna change anything They're not gonna like take away what they made
01:10:09
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So you don't have to love it. But like you're saying, why are you gonna take that stance of like, oh, well, I'm never watching that again. Not my Star Wars, not my Luke, not my this, not my that. I mean, it's just like with She-Hulk. People are all pealed on that. I'm just like, really?
01:10:26
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Really? I watched it. I loved it. I liked it. You know what my problem was? It had nothing to do with She-Hulk. My problem was Bruce Banner. I actually don't like Bruce. I do not like Mark Ruffalo as the Hulk. So that actually was my problem. I like Mark. Mark Ruffalo's good. And he was doing way too much mansplaining. I get it. She called him out on it. And that was great. But I was like, dude, this man is annoying. He needs to stop.
01:10:57
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I love that show. That was good. It was a good good intro to that character. I'm excited to see See where they go with that. But Anyway, alright kids, that's it.
Closing and Andor Series Tease
01:11:07
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That's a show. I'm glad we're back We got and or coming up. So we'll get all that done where I have some guests line up I got to reach out and get all those dates squared away, but we do know we're getting three episodes and
01:11:20
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that first day, which is insane. So that's going to be a big deep dive. That first breakdown will just be you and me on those three episodes, which is probably gonna be like two hours.
01:11:35
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So expect a long long episode of that one. But before then, we'll probably we're going to do a a pre heading into and or episode and kind of where we're at with it, how excited we are. We'll get into that, too. So stick with us, kids. We're back slowly. But surely we're getting there and we're getting back into the swing of things. So again, thank you for listening to us as always. And you can follow us.
01:12:04
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on Twitter at the Galactic Pod. And we are on Apple Pod, Google Play, Spotify, all the major platforms. So go give us a rain review, do all the kinds of stuff that you can do for us. We would very much appreciate it. And you can follow me, lowroknows on Twitter. What about Instagram? You're not on Instagram. I don't really use, I don't really use Instagram a lot. No, you can follow me, Andrea, Guti, Erez, Andrea, Ray Skywalker.
01:12:34
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at r2d2step on Twitter. I don't really tweet about Star Wars too much. As always, may the force be with you. Always. Always.