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Episode 9: Should Men Get Paternity Tests Automatically? (Day 5 of 30-Day Challenge)
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Tonight we’re going there. It’s Day 5 of our 30-Day Challenge, and we’re asking a loaded question:
Should paternity tests be standard at birth?
Is it about trust or truth? Protection or paranoia?
In this episode of From StartUp to TakeOver—Watch Us Work, we explore all sides—men’s rights, women’s dignity, and the messy middle in between.
💬 This one might ruffle feathers, but it’s time we talked about it.
Pull up every night at 8 PM EST for 30 minutes of real, unfiltered conversation. You might not agree—but you will feel something.
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Transcript
Renewing Marriage Licenses: Mandatory or Optional?
00:00:00
Kim Fletcher
even to change it but a piggyback off that since you're talking about paternity tests and um automatically they should get it so if if you're in a relationship and you've been married for a while should you renew your marriage license should you renew your relationship
00:00:18
Tanya Ruttley
Some people do. It's called renewing of the vows. Vow renewal. So, I mean, people do that all the time.
00:00:24
Kim Fletcher
okay so so
00:00:25
Tanya Ruttley
Yeah. You know, especially if um they've been married.
00:00:26
Kim Fletcher
like
00:00:29
Tanya Ruttley
I think I've seen a lot at the 20-year mark. They do vow renewal. My husband and myself said we were going to it at five. We didn't. um But people do it at different times. That's already a thing.
00:00:41
Kim Fletcher
so So you think license should be renewed.
00:00:46
Tanya Ruttley
Oh, you said licenses.
00:00:46
Kim Fletcher
um License not renewing your vow.
00:00:51
Tanya Ruttley
No, no, that's no, I don't think it should be, but it can be, I guess if they want, but if you change in the, let me ask you this, how does that tie in?
00:00:51
Kim Fletcher
License should be renewed.
00:00:59
Tanya Ruttley
Because if you're changing the license, does it change the date of your marriage?
00:01:03
Kim Fletcher
I don't know.
00:01:04
Tanya Ruttley
Girl.
00:01:04
Kim Fletcher
That's what I'm saying. So we can you can end the relationship or walk out on the relationship or whatever you want to do. So I think it should be a set time in that time where you should been able to renew the license.
00:01:18
Kim Fletcher
You want to you you know no longer want to be together, renew the license.
00:01:19
Tanya Ruttley
girl
00:01:23
Kim Fletcher
Cut them off.
00:01:23
Tanya Ruttley
Oh, hold on. You said if you no longer want to be together, renew the...
00:01:27
Kim Fletcher
Yeah, a leave.
00:01:29
Tanya Ruttley
but No, i what I'm saying, if you if you don't want to be together anymore, why would you renew a license if you don't want to be together?
00:01:34
Kim Fletcher
You have that choice, say you want to renew your license.
00:01:38
Tanya Ruttley
Oh, you're talking about for marriage.
00:01:40
Kim Fletcher
Yes, or, well, not relation, well, did you think it a voice to renew a license?
00:01:42
Tanya Ruttley
Well, isn't it just a divorce? Okay. Okay. Well, when you say, no, no, because when you said if you want out, then renew your license, you wouldn't renew it. It would terminate.
00:01:55
Tanya Ruttley
That's what's throwing me off. You said renew it.
00:01:56
Kim Fletcher
Right. So,
00:01:57
Tanya Ruttley
But if you want out, you're not going to renew it. You're going to terminate it, which is the same thing as a divorce.
Biblical Perspectives on Marriage and Divorce
00:02:02
Kim Fletcher
Well, I'm going to say like this. So say that you think you think you feel the relationship ran it course, but you're still married.
00:02:04
Tanya Ruttley
Mm-hmm.
00:02:11
Kim Fletcher
Should the license end?
00:02:19
Kim Fletcher
Say you're married?
00:02:23
Tanya Ruttley
I believe in divorce. If that's by you saying license, I think you're throwing me off. do I believe in divorce. But now with what I'm studying, I do understand divorce entails a little bit more.
00:02:34
Tanya Ruttley
um Biblically.
00:02:38
Kim Fletcher
Mm-hmm.
00:02:38
Tanya Ruttley
Consequences, right? So I always knew there was consequences.
00:02:40
Kim Fletcher
Right.
00:02:42
Tanya Ruttley
Let me say that. But I've been studying more on the true meaning of marriage, biblically speaking. Um, and it's really a lot more to it than it's ran its course.
00:02:56
Tanya Ruttley
So when you say, do I believe that the license, which is to me a divorce, um, should be terminated,
00:03:02
Kim Fletcher
Oh, well, let's just say you we get married. And they can put a law on and say in 10 years, you can renew your license to be married or not.
00:03:22
Tanya Ruttley
That's crazy. Okay, what happens in between two years? Can you do it at any time before the 10 years?
00:03:25
Kim Fletcher
Huh?
00:03:28
Tanya Ruttley
Can you do it at any time before the 10 years? what's What goes on in between the 10 years? Or do you have to wait to the 10 years? Like, it doesn't make sense to me.
00:03:34
Kim Fletcher
I may. museum Yeah, it doesn't make sense.
00:03:36
Tanya Ruttley
No. No, not going to lock me in 10 years like you lock me in five years with a car note or lock me in with a mortgage. Because what's happening in between the 10 years? Why say in 10 years you can reach?
00:03:48
Tanya Ruttley
I don't understand the logic behind that.
00:03:50
Kim Fletcher
Yeah, like renew your license. Say whether you want to, you renew your driver's license. They can revoke them at any time, so you get them renewed.
00:04:00
Tanya Ruttley
Okay. But when you look at a commitment that's supposed to have something to do with God, your license don't got nothing with God. yeah i don't... I think that's now getting away from what marriage is supposed to be about.
00:04:13
Tanya Ruttley
Cause see marriage is not truly intended for divorce.
00:04:13
Kim Fletcher
Mm-hmm.
00:04:16
Tanya Ruttley
Okay. So let's, let's be clear with that. So tying in a license to, from paternity test to license and marriage.
00:04:18
Kim Fletcher
by
00:04:25
Tanya Ruttley
I don't, I just don't think that goes together.
Infidelity, Family Stability, and Paternity Tests
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Tanya Ruttley
Um, because the reason why I was saying DNA slash paternity test was because of the infidelity that's very high. And the facts are, it always has been. So I'm not saying that um infidelity is brand new or the numbers are now astronomically high.
00:04:48
Tanya Ruttley
Infidelity has forever been out here, right? However, with marriage in play and God's true creation for man and woman to be married, And have children.
00:05:01
Tanya Ruttley
That was to protect that family unit. And if you think about if the family unit is protected. goes out in the world. And the world is better. It's just a better place. In my personal opinion.
00:05:09
Kim Fletcher
What's the better place?
00:05:09
Tanya Ruttley
But if you have the family unit. The husband, the wife. We're talking about on proper terms. god God's way of living.
00:05:17
Kim Fletcher
OK.
00:05:17
Tanya Ruttley
um then it would play out into your communities. That's why, right?
00:05:22
Kim Fletcher
Mm-hmm.
00:05:22
Tanya Ruttley
So when you have children that are not in a mother, father, parent household, there are issues. Even when they become adults, they're going to be issues. um But if you have, I think it's stronger for the family and the community.
00:05:39
Tanya Ruttley
If you have a mother, father, the married family unit raising children,
00:05:47
Tanya Ruttley
And again, this is biblically soundness, what I'm talking about, not the worldly way, because the worldly way we believe marriage all over the place.
00:05:54
Kim Fletcher
Mm-hmm.
00:05:54
Tanya Ruttley
I think that ties into saying get a license. That's all over the place. God did not have written god did not originally attend intend for us to divorce.
00:05:57
Kim Fletcher
Yeah. Mm-hmm.
00:06:02
Tanya Ruttley
That came up upon Moses' introduction, right?
00:06:02
Kim Fletcher
Mm-hmm.
00:06:02
Kim Fletcher
Right.
00:06:05
Tanya Ruttley
Due to, as biblically it says, the heartening of our hearts.
00:06:09
Kim Fletcher
Right.
00:06:10
Tanya Ruttley
But when this marriage was created, which is not our institution, this is God's institution. And we're getting away from that. we want We want to make up the terms of what a marriage should be and who it should be with.
00:06:21
Tanya Ruttley
But the truth is, no, it wasn't supposed to be for divorce originally. um But that happened and that came into play.
00:06:29
Kim Fletcher
and it
00:06:31
Tanya Ruttley
So i don't if we make it worse now saying, give you 10 years and you can decide.
00:06:32
Kim Fletcher
but
00:06:36
Tanya Ruttley
ah
00:06:36
Kim Fletcher
Yeah. when i when i
00:06:37
Tanya Ruttley
Yeah.
00:06:38
Kim Fletcher
Some parts of what I've understood is how they got married in biblical days. it was There were no papers.
00:06:46
Tanya Ruttley
Right.
00:06:46
Kim Fletcher
It was just they had a feast and they gave the woman, the dad gave the mount woman to the man.
00:06:47
Tanya Ruttley
Absolutely. Mm-hmm.
00:06:53
Kim Fletcher
The woman moved in with the man, had babies, and they were married.
00:06:53
Tanya Ruttley
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Right.
00:06:57
Kim Fletcher
So there was no paper, no preacher, no rings.
00:07:01
Tanya Ruttley
like Right. Right.
00:07:06
Kim Fletcher
They were just there.
00:07:06
Tanya Ruttley
Yeah, what was the point of that, though?
00:07:09
Kim Fletcher
didn't they didn they didn't take paternity tests.
00:07:13
Tanya Ruttley
Well, I understand they didn't take paternity tests, right? But we have now moved, let's say, eons down the road where you have not not even just medical issues based on biological DNA, right?
00:07:18
Kim Fletcher
Right?
00:07:21
Kim Fletcher
Yeah. Yes.
00:07:30
Kim Fletcher
Mm-hmm.
00:07:30
Tanya Ruttley
So you can have sick children walking around.
00:07:30
Kim Fletcher
Mm-hmm.
00:07:33
Tanya Ruttley
And here's the thing, life evolves, right? There's the advancement of life. So if you have where you have sick children, right? and we don't know the true biological father because mom has lied, then that's not fair to a sick child, right?
00:07:46
Kim Fletcher
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
00:07:51
Kim Fletcher
Right.
00:07:52
Tanya Ruttley
So back then they didn't have DNA, baby, because DNA wasn't there.
00:07:52
Kim Fletcher
Right.
00:07:56
Tanya Ruttley
It wasn't available, right?
00:07:58
Kim Fletcher
Mm-hmm.
00:07:59
Tanya Ruttley
Now, does that mean they shouldn't have had it? You can't say that because it wasn't introduced yet, but it's here now.
00:08:04
Kim Fletcher
Right.
00:08:06
Tanya Ruttley
the To say, well, they didn't have a pregnancy test back then.
00:08:08
Kim Fletcher
yeah And I agree.
00:08:11
Tanya Ruttley
Well, it
00:08:12
Kim Fletcher
That's it.
00:08:13
Tanya Ruttley
No, of course they didn't.
00:08:14
Kim Fletcher
But, and I agree now because this, the, the, nowadays, this, this time, this time, agree somewhat you should be having paternity tests because a lot of things are going on now.
00:08:27
Kim Fletcher
A lot of things.
00:08:27
Tanya Ruttley
Now, lot of things
Gender Roles: Modern vs. Traditional
00:08:29
Tanya Ruttley
have always been going on. That's why return to death came into play.
00:08:30
Kim Fletcher
Yeah. Yeah. And I say now, because, you know, previous days we kind of, we were sheltered from knowing these things. So now it's out in the open.
00:08:44
Tanya Ruttley
Kim, stop giving these women a pass. They're out here flanging it.
00:08:47
Kim Fletcher
It is new um not going pass this out.
00:08:48
Tanya Ruttley
I'm
00:08:50
Kim Fletcher
now but You didn't know we weren't, it wasn't in our faces so much.
00:08:53
Tanya Ruttley
fine. You're taking out these women.
00:08:59
Tanya Ruttley
Well, what we're past that stage and it's very obvious. um
00:09:03
Kim Fletcher
Yes.
00:09:03
Tanya Ruttley
A lot of women want to compete with men, say they can do what the man can do, you know. And then some some instances that could be the case, but um I'm not going to sling my body around because you slinging your body around.
00:09:11
Kim Fletcher
Why did you say that?
00:09:14
Tanya Ruttley
I'm just saying, but that's just a personal preference.
00:09:16
Kim Fletcher
so Why you say a lot of women want to compete with men? Why do you say that?
00:09:21
Tanya Ruttley
They say it. What do you mean? They say it's known.
00:09:23
Kim Fletcher
that right
00:09:24
Tanya Ruttley
They want to. Yeah. They want to be able to do the same thing that a man does. What do you mean?
00:09:29
Kim Fletcher
I'm saying, why do you call that competing? Why do you think they want to do the same thing as a man? Men want to do what women do. So what?
00:09:37
Tanya Ruttley
okay now are you talking about uh homosexuality or are you talking about just in job wise because i was talking about more so in job wise what are you referencing when you say men no you can't say in general because so that's why just said it for me when i say women won the competition they want to do what men do i'm talking about job wise careers what are you saying that men
00:09:42
Kim Fletcher
In general.
00:09:48
Kim Fletcher
In general.
00:09:56
Kim Fletcher
ah know me what women what What do men do that women want to do job-wise?
00:10:02
Tanya Ruttley
I didn't say that. You said that. ah you said, what do men do? um Okay. For instance, like um um when I was in the ah outside the military, once I got out, let me tell you, once I got out, there's something called infantry, right?
00:10:09
Kim Fletcher
yeah
00:10:17
Tanya Ruttley
They've passed it to where now women can become, so I guess they want me call infantry men. They're infantry women. um And infantry entails a little bit um longer of, let's say, sleeping outside in the woods.
00:10:30
Tanya Ruttley
um That's cleanliness. it's It's a lot that goes with it. um And they do want those roles, and it eventually got passed, right? So those are things that women do want to do, whereas it would be a man.
00:10:39
Kim Fletcher
Right.
00:10:45
Tanya Ruttley
Let's also go into when you look at mechanics, right? Being a mechanic. There are women who want to learn and be mechanics, right?
00:10:58
Tanya Ruttley
Well, for me, I think that's more so of a man. I don't want to go up underneath the hood. I want a man that will go up underneath the hood for me.
00:11:06
Kim Fletcher
But that's you.
00:11:07
Tanya Ruttley
So, well right.
00:11:08
Kim Fletcher
But that's
00:11:09
Tanya Ruttley
Exactly.
00:11:09
Kim Fletcher
wait Some women like to work on cars, fix on homes. Like, that is not just a man's job.
00:11:16
Tanya Ruttley
No, no, no. I'm giving you some examples, right? Because I also said about the infantry part, you picked the part where it it looked a little bit cleaner, but there's also some things.
00:11:25
Kim Fletcher
Nope.
00:11:28
Tanya Ruttley
Like again, military infantry that, um, it's not clean. it It's just not a very clean sanitary. Let me say it that way. Sanitary thing for women.
00:11:41
Tanya Ruttley
Um, but they, but but they fought for the right to be able to live like that.
00:11:41
Kim Fletcher
what what what
00:11:48
Tanya Ruttley
So when you, but, so that's why I say that, and i was talking about career wise, but when you say, cause you said there are men who want to be like women.
00:11:55
Kim Fletcher
yeah well they were one of one i mean maybe women's job but so i i can't say that i'm gonna take it back i said and i take it back because what's a woman job but what's a man job i'm lost
00:11:56
Tanya Ruttley
What, in what way?
00:12:09
Tanya Ruttley
So I do believe in gender roles, right? Gender roles um for certain stuff. And when I say gender roles, when you have a household, I do believe there are certain things the man should be doing. There are certain things that the woman should be doing.
00:12:27
Tanya Ruttley
And for me,
00:12:27
Kim Fletcher
so So a woman's job is to cook, quote, as quote.
00:12:31
Tanya Ruttley
you didn't let me finish talking. You interrupted. So you want me finish it?
00:12:35
Kim Fletcher
Now just want to say that.
00:12:35
Tanya Ruttley
Nope. Cause you didn't let me say it. You didn't let me say it.
00:12:38
Kim Fletcher
Oh, as quote.
00:12:39
Tanya Ruttley
So I believe in gender roles, right.
00:12:39
Kim Fletcher
OK.
00:12:42
Tanya Ruttley
In a marriage unit for one, you get structure. um But I believe when it comes to fixing cars, taking cars to get washed, lawn service,
00:12:50
Kim Fletcher
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
00:12:53
Tanya Ruttley
um I do, I would prefer that my husband doing now laundry, I think is more so mixed cooking. I think it's mixed cleaning is mixed um stuff like that.
00:13:09
Kim Fletcher
But I'm
00:13:11
Tanya Ruttley
Say that, say that again.
00:13:12
Kim Fletcher
those supposed to be women jobs.
00:13:14
Tanya Ruttley
But you just said there was supposed to be women's job.
00:13:15
Kim Fletcher
yeah what that
00:13:17
Tanya Ruttley
I was just telling you, not in my house.
00:13:18
Kim Fletcher
yes and
00:13:19
Tanya Ruttley
No, I don't think that i don't think that's a woman's job.
00:13:19
Kim Fletcher
like then
00:13:22
Tanya Ruttley
That's something that I think is simple. Cooking is simple. Washing clothes, doing laundry is simple. Cleaning is something simple. But you're talking about manual, cutting yards, edging the lawn,
00:13:38
Tanya Ruttley
fixing cars. Okay. Washing cars is not hard the anymore. You just take it to the car wash, right? Um, there are differences in that. I don't want to go out there and get up on a car.
00:13:51
Tanya Ruttley
I want my husband to do that. Now, I do know that there are some, they do, ah what do you call it, role reversals, but they still have separate. There are some where the man cook and the woman does, you know, i don't know, maybe the the yard, right?
00:14:08
Tanya Ruttley
She's into beautifying the yard. So she handles the yard, but i don't think she cut the grass. Like least the women that I know that do, The um landscaping, which is like the flowers, the shrubs, they don't cut their grass, though.
00:14:21
Tanya Ruttley
Their husbands cut their grass.
00:14:21
Kim Fletcher
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. But so you say, go ahead.
00:14:24
Tanya Ruttley
So.
00:14:27
Tanya Ruttley
and You said so I say that was I think that was probably. what
00:14:30
Kim Fletcher
Yeah, so you say, you, you, bivically, I'm going there too.
00:14:31
Tanya Ruttley
Mm
00:14:34
Kim Fletcher
So you say,
00:14:35
Tanya Ruttley
hmm.
00:14:36
Kim Fletcher
that though they should be doing me and that's a woman's and a man's job to together cleaning cooking those little bitty things but we go back again and i tell you that it says women are to be nurtured we are to do home we are to take care our kids show them how to take care of their home and their man that's what it says and it says a man is supposed to be the provider so which way are you living
00:14:59
Tanya Ruttley
So you think with being a provider, he's not supposed to raise and structure his children? What do you mean by provider?
00:15:05
Kim Fletcher
I didn't say, I didn't say, the Bible says that a woman is
00:15:08
Tanya Ruttley
but what What does it elaborate in? What does it mean?
00:15:12
Kim Fletcher
is supposed to nurture and teach their daughters or sons, daughters, because it says daughters in there, or kids, how to take care of their homes, cook, tend to their business, tend to their own business.
00:15:27
Kim Fletcher
That is what it says. the man is supposed to the Bible.
00:15:29
Tanya Ruttley
So is it is it daughters or is it children?
00:15:33
Kim Fletcher
Let me go back and make sure it's not saying just daughters.
00:15:37
Tanya Ruttley
Yeah, because it's going to matter.
00:15:37
Kim Fletcher
makes But if she's supposed to be at home nurturing, if it's a male or a female, she's supposed to be nurturing both.
00:15:39
Tanya Ruttley
So if it's if it's daughters, then who's doing anything with the sons if it's just the women supposed to nurture?
00:15:50
Tanya Ruttley
Oh, no, I'm asking because you said daughters and then children. I just want to know which one it is.
00:15:53
Kim Fletcher
I'm gonna add and I'm gonna take away.
00:15:54
Tanya Ruttley
That's all.
00:15:56
Kim Fletcher
i'm I'm not adding, I'm not taking away, but I'm going back and check and make sure it says your daughters or children.
00:15:57
Tanya Ruttley
Yeah.
00:16:02
Tanya Ruttley
Right.
00:16:03
Kim Fletcher
But I know what it says that. So that's why i'm saying which way, which what do you believe?
00:16:07
Tanya Ruttley
Which that? You said it says What do you mean?
00:16:10
Kim Fletcher
It says that a woman is supposed to be a nurturer. She's supposed to be at home taking of the daughter, teaching them how to take care home and their husband, their man, and how to mind their own business.
00:16:13
Tanya Ruttley
Oh.
00:16:21
Kim Fletcher
That is what it says. And it says a man's supposed to be a provider. That is what it says.
00:16:25
Tanya Ruttley
Okay.
00:16:25
Kim Fletcher
It says the first year when a man takes a woman, he's supposed to be at home and treating her like a queen. That is what it says. her didn't say by the kids. It says he's supposed to be treating her like a queen for the first year.
00:16:38
Kim Fletcher
Now, after that, I haven't really gotten into it.
00:16:40
Tanya Ruttley
Oh, hold on. For the first, it gave it in specific terms of in the first year. Huh.
00:16:45
Kim Fletcher
You did.
00:16:47
Tanya Ruttley
gonna have to study that tomorrow. I don't, I don't think I've ever heard that the word it says in the first year.
00:16:49
Kim Fletcher
Got it.
00:16:52
Tanya Ruttley
So then what happened? So, so do you think the Bible gives a step-by-step in, in life?
00:16:54
Kim Fletcher
yeah ah
00:16:58
Kim Fletcher
I do because I think it's a blueprint and I live by it because if I go through anything, I'm going to look it up.
00:17:03
Tanya Ruttley
Huh? Hold on. You said it's a blueprint for, are you saying in a, remember I said step by step.
00:17:11
Kim Fletcher
It is. That's step by step, a blueprint.
00:17:13
Tanya Ruttley
Correct. And you think the Bible actually gives you step by step.
00:17:17
Kim Fletcher
I do. yeah
00:17:18
Tanya Ruttley
Hmm. Okay.
00:17:19
Kim Fletcher
now I do. I do because you can go in there and ask Google to ask the Bible something that's pertaining to you. And it's going to give you scriptures to you, to for you.
00:17:29
Tanya Ruttley
Mm-hmm.
00:17:30
Kim Fletcher
Not for you to give to me, but for you, because you're asking.
00:17:30
Tanya Ruttley
Mm-hmm.
00:17:33
Tanya Ruttley
I believe the Bible is a um blueprint, but I don't believe it's a step-by-step that I don't. It don't give you step-by-step for life. There are things in between that you have you have got to go in there and figure out, um and especially when yeah when we get on the part about nurturing.
00:17:42
Kim Fletcher
Well,
00:17:50
Tanya Ruttley
For one, we got to find out if it is nurturing the children or if it's specific as what you're saying, because then... I think there's going to be more context that's missing if it is specific to just nurturing daughters.
00:18:01
Tanya Ruttley
Because if we have boys and girls, and if the woman is to nurture daughters, and you're saying the man is just supposed to provide, what is happening to the sons?
00:18:02
Kim Fletcher
We don't
00:18:11
Tanya Ruttley
And that's that's why it's when I say something, I want to be careful because...
The Bible as a Life Blueprint
00:18:18
Tanya Ruttley
it has it can't it can't be loosely stated, right?
00:18:22
Tanya Ruttley
So that's why I was asking about the nurturing part. What does it actually say?
00:18:29
Kim Fletcher
have time for me to look it up.
00:18:29
Tanya Ruttley
Because, yeah, right, right.
00:18:32
Kim Fletcher
Yeah.
00:18:32
Tanya Ruttley
No, but going to look it up.
00:18:33
Kim Fletcher
Yes, yes, yes. Okay.
00:18:33
Tanya Ruttley
Yeah, I'm going to look into that tomorrow.
00:18:34
Kim Fletcher
Right.
00:18:35
Tanya Ruttley
That's a good one. That's a good one for me to study on.
00:18:36
Kim Fletcher
we every yeah yes yes yeah
00:18:39
Tanya Ruttley
Yeah, absolutely. m Because if it is just nurturing daughters, then that do tell me then, okay, something's missing, right?
00:18:49
Tanya Ruttley
Because, and meaning, right? Not that it's not in the Bible. I got to find it, right? that That deep dive studying to find them.
00:18:56
Kim Fletcher
right
00:18:57
Tanya Ruttley
What is he saying about boys? And then another thing that I'm learning with this study in the Bible, these words don't mean every exactly what we think they say, what they mean in English because the translation.
00:19:12
Tanya Ruttley
That's another thing that I've been studying. And that's why I want, I was asking you specifically what it said, children or daughters, And then even with the nurturing and then the provider part. So that deep studying of the Bible, when you find out about the translation and how it got to it, it's a lot. It gets heavy. Like with work, I learned work is not your job.
00:19:34
Tanya Ruttley
Work is you. You are the work. not going to a job. And I'm 48 and just realizing this. That's that's what also helped turn my thought process to go really heavy on this entrepreneurship thing because the work is me.
00:19:52
Tanya Ruttley
That's that's what it is. So it just takes a lot of studying to ensure that the translation is proper and not how we see it as far as the word that we use here in the English term.
00:20:06
Tanya Ruttley
That's all. When it was, you know, originally translated biblically. So they say, you know, like Hebrew and all that other stuff.
00:20:09
Kim Fletcher
yeah that there That's why you have to read the whole kind passage in content so that you know. And you read it in more than one.
00:20:20
Tanya Ruttley
You got to get it from Hebrew. Hebrew is the, so Hebrew translation is huge in their language at the time to tell you what that stuff means. You can't just read the regular Bible and get it.
00:20:30
Tanya Ruttley
You can, yeah, you're going to be low.
00:20:30
Kim Fletcher
That's right.
00:20:32
Tanya Ruttley
Yeah.
00:20:33
Kim Fletcher
different Bibles to make sure that all of them line up the same.
00:20:36
Tanya Ruttley
Yep.
00:20:38
Kim Fletcher
Even if have it in Google, it better line up with a Bible that I have in this home that I can read.
Future Discussions Teaser: Nurturing and Independence
00:20:45
Kim Fletcher
That's the only way. It has to line up.
00:20:47
Tanya Ruttley
Right.
00:20:49
Kim Fletcher
So, yeah. But we will revisit. We will revisit.
00:20:53
Tanya Ruttley
Yeah, that's the good one. But we didn't get to finish on the thing about the paternity test. But it's about time for us to go.
00:20:58
Kim Fletcher
We kind of
00:20:58
Tanya Ruttley
They were always so short. Huh?
00:21:01
Kim Fletcher
wait kind of You know, summed it up, like, we maybe they you feel they need paternity tests in this climate, in this day, yeah. um um I agree with you somewhat.
00:21:14
Tanya Ruttley
Right. I wanted to, um I was going to try put some comments in the chat, but I didn't get to do that in reference to the paternity testing. we got on about the marriage. um
00:21:27
Tanya Ruttley
I need to go over that to see how we can start implementing the comment stuff, but yeah.
00:21:32
Kim Fletcher
and We will jump because it's raw.
00:21:35
Tanya Ruttley
Uh-huh. Yeah. We're going to jump.
00:21:37
Kim Fletcher
We will talk about whatever it's coming, you know, whatever feels right or whatever the spirit wants us to talk about. We will talk, jump from here to there. So
00:21:51
Kim Fletcher
keep joining in. We surely will.
00:21:53
Tanya Ruttley
Yes. Now, tomorrow, we don't know where we're going to go, but we'll be here. um Or do we?
00:21:59
Kim Fletcher
But we will.
00:22:00
Tanya Ruttley
Wait minute. Do we know what we're going to talk about? We did. um
00:22:03
Kim Fletcher
We will be revisiting the the nurturing.
00:22:03
Tanya Ruttley
Real quick.
00:22:07
Tanya Ruttley
Yes. Mm-hmm. Because, you know, also with that, I think it's good to bring that part in because with the nurturing and the men being providers, these marriage homes are broken.
00:22:18
Kim Fletcher
Mm-hmm.
00:22:21
Tanya Ruttley
How we going to repair them?
00:22:21
Kim Fletcher
Yeah.
00:22:22
Tanya Ruttley
Because, you know, but you can't repair them all because they are not all about being biblically sound.
00:22:22
Kim Fletcher
All right.
00:22:29
Kim Fletcher
Yeah.
00:22:29
Tanya Ruttley
They just aren't.
00:22:30
Kim Fletcher
Okay.
00:22:30
Tanya Ruttley
So, but we're talking about being biblically sound.
00:22:34
Kim Fletcher
and
00:22:35
Tanya Ruttley
how How does that get corrected? Right. um And then that also going to go into about the should men get paternity test automatically.
00:22:39
Kim Fletcher
That's
00:22:43
Kim Fletcher
right.
00:22:43
Tanya Ruttley
And I'm going to tell you, I still believe they should get it done because no one is perfect only because people aren't perfect.
00:22:47
Kim Fletcher
Yeah.
00:22:50
Tanya Ruttley
That's the only reason why I believe in it.
00:22:51
Kim Fletcher
for
00:22:52
Tanya Ruttley
There's no such thing as perfection. No matter what life we're living, things happen.
00:22:56
Kim Fletcher
it that's great
00:22:58
Tanya Ruttley
And look, I got four boys. I want to know if those are really, truly my grandbabies.
00:23:02
Kim Fletcher
yeah
00:23:03
Tanya Ruttley
So I'm sorry. um Anyone in the future that marries my sons? Yes, we are going to get that done. So, but what tomorrow, um we kind of went over what's going to be tomorrow.
00:23:11
Kim Fletcher
OK. yeah
00:23:16
Tanya Ruttley
um You wanted to discuss.
00:23:19
Kim Fletcher
Nurturing.
00:23:21
Tanya Ruttley
It was one other thing, too.
00:23:22
Kim Fletcher
About when should we should we be cooking breakfast, lunch, and dinner for our little ones?
00:23:30
Tanya Ruttley
Yes, tune in.
00:23:30
Kim Fletcher
And when we can't cook.
00:23:31
Tanya Ruttley
Yeah, we want to tap into whether or not parents, well, the timeline for when parents should start letting their children, their little ones start to gain a little independence.
00:23:39
Kim Fletcher
Yep.
00:23:44
Tanya Ruttley
So what's happened to those things tomorrow? Nurturing, providing an independency for the children. That's a good one.
00:23:54
Kim Fletcher
Okay.
00:23:55
Tanya Ruttley
All right. So check us out tomorrow, you guys. We are three minutes over and I know my boss is upset, but um yeah, we won't be as bad tomorrow.
00:24:03
Kim Fletcher
Have
00:24:06
Tanya Ruttley
So from startup to take over, watch us work podcast.
00:24:06
Kim Fletcher
a good night.
00:24:10
Tanya Ruttley
We are out. We will see you guys tomorrow. Goodbye.
00:24:14
Kim Fletcher
Good night.