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The Kids in the Hall: Brain Candy 1996
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Welcome to Deadnotes, tonight we’re diving headfirst into the surreal, unhinged world of Kids in the Hall: Brain Candy. This 1996 cult classic from the Canadian comedy troupe takes a sharp left turn into a bizarre, satirical nightmare—a pill-popping dystopia that’s equal parts hilarious and horrifying. Is it a comedy? A horror? A fever dream? Grab your glowsticks and your questionable prescriptions, because we’re about to unpack the madness. Let’s get weird.
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Introduction to 'Dead Notes' and 'Brain Candy'
00:00:24
Speaker
Hello, welcome to Dead Notes, a horror and cult film podcast. I am Kevin, and with me is my guy that is upstairs masturbating to gay porn again. honey, you're home.
00:00:39
Speaker
i just got out of the shower. i i was just taking a shower.
00:00:47
Speaker
I'm Alan, and we're talking about Kids in the Hall Brain Candy from 1996 that I just found out was a fucking major flop.
00:00:58
Speaker
I thought it was huge. Man, that's all I remember from it, too. And... Incredible movie to this day. It holds up.
Pharmaceutical Satire and Dark Comedy
00:01:06
Speaker
um I think to watch it today, it would speak volumes just because of the pharmaceutical war that has been ongoing. And it's just it just completely makes complete fun of all of it to such a high degree. Yeah, it's kind of more relevant now than ever.
00:01:25
Speaker
Yeah, because back when it came out, we really didn't know shit. yeah We just knew, hey, everybody just prescribes you this and that. And that's what they're making fun of. Yeah, yeah. Here's here. Have you taken a drug for that?
00:01:38
Speaker
Which, um, which I suppose nowadays if they remade Brain Candy today, Gleamanex, the drug in the movie would have a side effect where you shot up a school or something. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:01:51
Speaker
Right. that'd be a little It'd be a dark comedy now. It was a dark comedy then, too, but it was just like, I don't know. I don't think the world was really ready for it.
00:02:02
Speaker
Oh, no. Well, it was also because, ah like, if you talked to anybody about Kids in the Hall back then, they would just disregard them because they called it, like, gay comedy or whatever.
00:02:14
Speaker
But fuck that, because it was way ahead of its time. Absolutely. These guys were just having fun. And I'll tell you, the funny thing is, too, a lot of people, you mentioned Kids in the Hall. What's the one thing they quote from the from the original series?
00:02:33
Speaker
Do you know? Uh-uh. Like anybody that knows. I crushed your head. Oh, yeah. Yeah, the infamous series. I crushed your head.
Cast Dynamics and Production Challenges
00:02:42
Speaker
That's probably part of the reason the movie flopped, because that got so popular and people just thought it was stupid humor, but it's not. I guess it did, because I do remember now, like, that's a lot of, like, what anybody ever really knew.
00:02:57
Speaker
and, like, the Chicken Lady, of course. Yeah. but yeah if you The Chicken Lady's incredible. yeah If you didn't watch Kids in the Hall, you just knew, crushed your head, and they all dressed up like women.
00:03:09
Speaker
Yeah, they played every single character, too. They played every character. And there were ongoing characters throughout the series, too. It was just incredible. Incredible. yeah Yeah, they got few cameos of their characters from the show in this movie. Yeah, it starts up with the taxi cab driver.
00:03:30
Speaker
Yeah, right. Or not starts up with him. It starts up with Scott Thompson Thompson as the homeless dude. Well, ah Dave Foley wasn't a member of the kids in the hall during this movie. Did you know that?
00:03:45
Speaker
No, no. Did he just but leave or something? or Well, well, he kids in the hall. The show ended in like 95. And yeah, and they made this movie in 96.
00:03:57
Speaker
But Dave Foley was doing news radio at that time. That's right. Because he kind of took off around that time. Yeah, right. yeah He's like the only cast member that got relatively famous, you know? Yeah.
00:04:12
Speaker
And this movie kind of tanked his career, too, unfortunately. but don't think so. I don't think so. um Well, commercially... Yeah, I guess if... I don't think he gave a fuck about that.
00:04:24
Speaker
Right. But, I mean, commercially it did. He never became, like, a household name. but Yeah. Because of... I mean, they credit it to this movie. Which is unfortunate, but if you look at the credits, like,
00:04:38
Speaker
That's why all the scenes with Dave Foley, like, he's the only member in the movie that never dresses as a woman, and they ah they think that that's because of something with news radio. they yeah I don't know. It's all bullshit.
00:04:54
Speaker
Up against the rest of the stuff that's in this fucking movie? Right. But also, he um if you no... if you watch it like he has no Like the lab characters.
00:05:06
Speaker
He's like the outcast. He's like the guy that just pops in. Like he had obligations to the movie, but he wasn't signed on. He had no writing credits for it or anything.
00:05:17
Speaker
Well, see, then that's even funnier coming around, which we'll get into later when he pops in and the science lab and stuff. So that that gives background to that because they're making fun of that as well.
00:05:29
Speaker
And he's in on the joke. You know what I'm saying? Like, yeah, I think that that's that's pretty awesome. ah Right. They were there. And um he was supposed to play Chris Cooper.
00:05:40
Speaker
Oh, was he? Yeah. And Kevin McDonald was not happy about that because he ended up having to play Chris Cooper. But he so he didn't get to like be as goofy as he wanted to be.
00:05:52
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. To be more serious. I believe Kevin McDonald and Kevin McDonald and. Ugh. I'm drinking some beer here. evan mcdonald Kevin McDonald and Dave Foley were the founding members of the Kids in the Hall.
00:06:10
Speaker
But yeah, they kind of wrote the movie with Dave Foley in mind
Personal Reflections and Cult Status Debate
00:06:14
Speaker
for the Chris Cooper character, which is the main character. Yeah. But here's here's why um this is probably why the movie's so funny because everyone on the set was miserable because the week before this movie started shooting Scott Thompson's brother committed suicide.
00:06:38
Speaker
Aww. And um Kevin MacDonald had a parent that died and he was going through a divorce. so Holy shit. Yeah, so the director, Kelly Macon, Macon, whatever, he directed a lot of the episodes too, and he did like the entire Amazon Prime series, the new one that we were talking about. yeah and If anyone hasn't seen it, go watch it.
00:07:04
Speaker
It's incredible as well. Fair warning, you're going to see some dicks. um But ah he said, apparently kelly Kelly said that he would have to stop shooting and give Kevin McDonald some time to just go off and cry.
00:07:24
Speaker
yeah I believe that. Which fucking sucks, but that's probably why the movie is so funny because there are scenes in this movie and there are scenes that are funny in this movie, but if you look into it, it's like they were fucking miserable.
00:07:38
Speaker
Well, it's dark, dude. There's a lot of shit this movie. I mean, and yeah the irony of the fact that they are going through such dark times in this movie, I mean, it's is dark as fuck. I mean, the...
00:07:54
Speaker
Oh, and another thing oh man another thing Kevin and I were talking about is that we thought this movie was like a cult favorite because, you know, Dead Notes is horror movies and cult movies. And ah this is my fault.
00:08:09
Speaker
And I don't regret it because we both love this movie. But
Character Wally and Social Commentary
00:08:13
Speaker
ah this movie doesn't really have cult status. Yeah. and I think it does. I mean, i don't know. i mean but we But we talked about that, too. It's like within our friend group, it does. But it ah even in the new um series, they make fun of it because at the yard sale in the new in the Amazon series, they have the VHS selling for one dollar. Yeah, I would have bought it in a heartbeat. would have bought their whole lot. I'd bought every one of them.
00:08:41
Speaker
Mm yeah ah I have given him $2. Yeah, I'll give you 100%. 100% markup on that. 100% tip. yeah ill give you a hundred percent hundred percent markup on that hundred percent Yeah.
00:08:54
Speaker
Yeah. but that's It's incredible though. Yeah. When we're, we're talking about that earlier and like how you made the comparison about how, you know, when you're going and seeing Dawn of the dead at all the theaters, when they're just releasing them randomly and you're expecting it to be like fucking crazy busy. And you being the only one walking in with like a tumbleweed, like floating through the aisle of the theater, you know?
00:09:20
Speaker
Well, yeah, it's like um I thought, you know, because of Facebook groups and, you know, just talking to people that are into the same stuff, the same kind of thing that I am, like you, you know, we all we all we all think this is a big deal.
00:09:35
Speaker
So I would leave. Remember, it was like an hour and a half drive when they did. Yeah, I know. mey yeah Anniversary movies. And I would drive out there early because I wanted to make sure I got a good seat.
00:09:49
Speaker
And I went like a total between the 3D version and the 45th anniversary version of Dawn of the Dead. i went about a total of 12 times. time
Comedic Style and Cultural Impact
00:09:58
Speaker
Yeah, you did, dude. And I was texting you every time pictures of the empty theater that I was sitting in I was literally the only person like most of the time. i think um Fucking sick, bro.
00:10:16
Speaker
I think out of every time I went, i could you could there were probably 15 other people out of every time. And that was like opening night. And then nobody.
00:10:27
Speaker
It was nice because I could sit in the center. ah you But yeah, it sucks because things like this get, um you know, we have a way we think about it. And then there's a way that the general public thinks about it. Because a lot of people, if you mention kids in the hall, brain candy, they're not going to know what the fuck you're talking about.
00:10:49
Speaker
But most of the people you and I talk fucking will love this. Yeah. Yeah. Bring it back. right Yeah, well and and well and speaking of bring it back, we'll go back to Kevin talking about the homeless piece of shit
00:11:09
Speaker
that the movie opens to, my man Scott Thompson. Yeah, yeah he's like, what, he presses his face up against the store window and he almost gets hit by the fucking cab.
00:11:32
Speaker
Yeah, with Mark McKinney. yeah who Yeah. You know, Mark McKinney is the only character sure that sometimes I'm not sure if it's him or not, because like if you look at some, he's like a, it's weird. It's like if you see him playing the lab, ah if you didn't know, like if you didn't know kids in the hall, I don't right off the rip, all I had do was put buck teeth in.
00:11:55
Speaker
Right. If you didn't know, if you're not like a fan of Kids in the Hall, I bet there were some of his characters that you wouldn't know were him.
Plot Points and Corporate Satire
00:12:05
Speaker
Like Don, the boss. I would never think that that lab assistant, because he's also the only lab assistant I don't really know what his name is.
00:12:15
Speaker
Yeah. he's He's like a side character, though. And that's because what we have, Baxter, which is Scott Thompson. And then Alice.
00:12:25
Speaker
Yeah. Alice. Alice. Bruce McCulloch. Which that character's played in so many of the Kids in the Hall episodes, yeah too, man. He like does the same.
00:12:38
Speaker
He does the same. Yeah. Bruce might be my favorite. i But like we said, it's hard I'm breaking up with you. Because fucking Scott Thompson has some fucking great characters. All of them do. All of them have great characters.
00:12:52
Speaker
But yeah, then, uh, but speaking of Mark McKinney, he drives by in his cab. I'm gonna tell you something about what's this going Out of my way, you homeless piece of shit.
00:13:06
Speaker
Ha ha ha. Ha ha ha.
00:13:11
Speaker
Yeah. Or no, hes he says, he hits him yeah and says, show some respect to you homeless piece of shit.
00:13:23
Speaker
He's like our narrator, kind of. He comes in he comes in at the beginning and the end of the movie. I mean, he has another scene, but he's not narrating at that point. Yeah, he just starts it and it just, then the movie takes off and it's,
00:13:39
Speaker
It's a go from here. like straight They did not waste any fucking time in this movie. goes quick. it goes like quick we go we and We go right to, and like we said, it's a dark comedy because we go right to the Suicide Club.
00:13:54
Speaker
Yeah. With Grivo Danzig. Yeah. Bruce McCulloch's Danzig character. if you don't If you watch this movie for anything, watch it for this because this was so fucking memorable.
00:14:09
Speaker
His fucking walk out on stage, dude. Oh my God.
00:14:15
Speaker
He's just like doom and gloom. Yeah.
00:14:20
Speaker
I work alone.
00:14:23
Speaker
where I walk alone. yeah
00:14:30
Speaker
So we cut to a suburban area where we get introduced to Scott Thompson's character, Wally Draczynski. He was probably one of one of the funniest fucking characters of this goddamn movie. His misadventures.
00:14:45
Speaker
So he's up there. It shows him up in his bedroom. And mind you, this is like super nice suburban, like perfect picture, perfect family, of course. And he's upstairs like masturbating to firemen, gay porn. Okay.
00:15:03
Speaker
and when his lovely stunning wife played by kevin mcdonald
00:15:12
Speaker
which kevin mcdonald has always played and even all the episodes he always plays like the best just like stressed out looking like yeah housewife you know he's he's always that type of character you know yeah awesome so she gets home and Wally throws water on himself and pretends he was taking a shower yeah he had a bottle of water next to his bed in case but kevin Kevin's character comes in and says where's your father and what do the kids say upstairs masturbating to gay porn um and she goes again
00:15:58
Speaker
it's so great it's such a great scene and then he comes running down the stairs with a towel on with like his head's all wet and he gives her a big hug honey you're home was just taking a shower
00:16:14
Speaker
um'm just so excited to see you
00:16:20
Speaker
ah yeah That was the 90s. That was the kid. Yeah, dude. it is Incredible. and fucking credible oh my god. and that you know We're not even within like the first... like what We haven't even yeah there made it into the fucking movie. there We're just introducing the characters at this point. Yeah, they're just kind of introducing like the little through threads.
00:16:44
Speaker
threads Yeah, like a fucking machine gun, though. Yeah, because we get
00:16:53
Speaker
the white trash couple. They're from they're from the ah they're from the original series, too. the Yeah. Bruce McCulloch and fucking... ah Mark McKinney, yeah. As the hooker. Yeah. did this Yeah. like come on Baby, it's my gift to you.
00:17:15
Speaker
Yeah. its he'd say Come on, baby. I need it. I need it. Yeah, he's in the truck, Ricky's Pest Rid. He's like, you stole this!
00:17:33
Speaker
That's so great, man. Baby, it's my gift to you. and i Don't shoot what says. He's like, don't shoot the messenger. And Bruce McCulloch is clearly the shortest member, but they made him look like... they When he got out of the van, they made him look so much shorter.
00:17:51
Speaker
Oh, I know. like and that's They've always played that, and he's always been like the buffest one of the bunch, you know? yeah But he's always been so short, dude. He's incredible. ah love Bruce McCullough, dude.
Controversy of Cancer Boy Character
00:18:03
Speaker
like I love everybody on this show. They're incredible people. But, you you know, when it pans up to the the yeah therapy you room, it goes by a window with me standing there flexing.
00:18:16
Speaker
Ha ha ha ha ha! showing up you know you know i i would fucking took a note of this because i was like man the fucking weird guy in the mirror like flexing that's me you you bought a ticket to the gun show no you didn't psych
00:18:38
Speaker
But yeah, they get up there and like Mark McKinney, once again, he's just sitting there. He's speaking wood German. Like, and it's, it's talking about these, the super dark shit and it pans over to fucking ah Dave Foley. And he's, he's like, sorry, i don't understand German. Yeah. i don't yeah And Mark says, shit.
00:19:07
Speaker
Yeah, the subtitles. The nipples of the mother of Mother Hope have run dry. Yeah.
00:19:17
Speaker
Oh. and Oh my fucking God. And we come full circle back to our boy Danzig, Grivo. Yeah, Grivo. Yeah. of
00:19:29
Speaker
This is the... Most days it's dark.
00:19:34
Speaker
I work alone. I walk alone.
00:19:39
Speaker
He's playing the same song every goddamn time. Well, he does write another song later, but... Oh, that's incredible. but this is It's a box office smash. This is where he does the typical diva shit. and he ah you He goes, I can't go on. This is bullshit. And throws the microphone down.
00:20:03
Speaker
That camera shot is really fucking cool too, or it follows the the microphone down. That's another thing about this movie, the way that they they cut and everything, like it it's it's sweet how they do it.
00:20:15
Speaker
But yeah, it goes to that, and then the crowd loves this, obviously. You know what I'm saying? don't know. And then now we get like to the fucking movie damn near, right?
00:20:28
Speaker
After all of this, we go to the underground lab with a sign that reads depression project. Depression project.
00:20:39
Speaker
and And we finally get introduced to our main character. He's doing some kind of, he's writing out some kind of equation. Is it accurate?
00:20:52
Speaker
well i don't know if you looked it I did actually put some of it in a AI just to see what it would come up with. Nothing.
00:21:06
Speaker
Yeah. ive i was I wrote that in here too. I was going to ask you if you're alive. They lied to us. Nothing will make you happy. but Tempered seven.
00:21:18
Speaker
ah Temporal sevenths. That's the equation. Equals happy. I don't know. We're going to have to consult a certain Chinese boy about this.
00:21:30
Speaker
We will. We will be reaching out.
00:21:37
Speaker
You know who you are.
00:21:41
Speaker
yeah they Yeah, he has a breakthrough, so then we you get we cut to Patient 957, Mrs. Hurticure.
00:21:52
Speaker
Yes. got Yet again. Yep, once again. Who, it's funny because Scott Thompson is also playing Baxter, who is feeding Mrs. Hurticure the pill, while one of the three, four people feeding her the pill.
00:22:10
Speaker
he It's so weird watching some of these scenes where the same guy is playing multiple characters in the, in the one scene, they just keep cutting genius.
00:22:20
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. They just keep cutting around or they have somebody sitting in you know, if it's like a backshot or something, it's genius, honestly. And they, yeah and look how much money you're saving. Oh yeah. Oh yeah. Yeah.
00:22:32
Speaker
you so Yeah, well, I mean, they brought over a lot of characters from the show, and and um obviously they had fun with it. I mean, the... Fuck yeah, dude.
00:22:42
Speaker
Other than Dave Foley, maybe, but he was just going through some shit, I guess. I mean, they all were, apparently. you know it's They made a fucking stellar fucking movie, though. Well, Friends have fallouts, and they came back together later and made something great, because the news the new series is fucking amazing.
00:23:02
Speaker
Yeah, it's like they never stopped, honestly. Yeah. and then they So they feed the pill to patient 957, and she has a flashback to her happiest memory.
00:23:16
Speaker
This scene is so fucked on like so many fucking levels. And it's hilarious at the same time. It's like its own little commentary about how dysfunctional real families are. Because it's not far from how a lot of our families are. i mean, how how just nobody really gives a fuck. It's like, you're my family, so I suppose I have to visit you.
00:23:43
Speaker
Well, with... with um With her, though, like, her story kind of comes around later, and we kind of see why he is the way that he is, you know?
00:23:54
Speaker
So what another genius aspect, which we'll get into later, you know, whatever, but, like, it's fucking crazy, yeah. So, yeah, he fucking comes in, he's like, My mom. He just brings what the three kids and his wife and they just kind of come in and ransack the living room and start tearing open gifts.
00:24:14
Speaker
Yeah. And he's just like she's just saying like how happy she is that they're all there. And he's just monotonely going. Yeah. Uh huh. Yeah. He's asking where the eggnog is, but then he just goes for the liquor.
00:24:27
Speaker
He doesn't even touch the eggnog. Yeah, he takes the slog out of that bottle and he just goes, ah all right, kids, time to go. yeah Yeah, and that's just that's just a little taste of just how fucking miserable the people in this movie are.
00:24:45
Speaker
but yeah But somehow it's still funny. yeah and it Yeah, and then she comes up with him, showed him like this fucking turkey, and the wife throws her gift on top of it, and she goes, oh, thanks for the gift. She goes, it's a harmonica, and they slam the door and leave. I wonder what this could be.
00:25:02
Speaker
yeah It's a harmonica. It's a harmonica.
00:25:10
Speaker
And it flashes back to the lab and patient 957 has a smile on her face. Mrs. Hurticure has a smile her face. Yeah, Hurticure, And when they ask her like ah how she's feeling, that fucking, I feel like a fresh towel. Yeah.
00:25:30
Speaker
Hanging up on a nice day. Yeah.
00:25:35
Speaker
It's so fucking funny, man. Scott Thompson is great. Yeah. He's fucking and hilarious. But they're all celebrating. And this is like one of your first little tastes of why how Dave Foley wasn't really committed.
00:25:49
Speaker
Yes. committed And I love this part. Yeah, they made it. Yeah, you mentioned this to me when we were just talking about this. And it's funny because it's like this is like first taste.
00:26:01
Speaker
of how Dave Foley was just kind of standoffish with this whole project. Yeah, that's what, yeah, you telling me that, like, brought it around, which makes this scene even even fucking greater, and the fact that they're able to interject comedy and make it fucking just amazing, you know, with with their own pain, you know? Yeah, right.
00:26:23
Speaker
Which is fucked up in itself, you know, like, oh my god. Because they're all celebrating, and he shows up and says what? Jesus Christ, I think we got it!
00:26:37
Speaker
and Cooper says, who are you? and Yeah, Dr. Cooper, who he was supposed to be playing, is like, who are you? He goes, just a guy. And he just goes, and like walks down the hallway. yeah He comes back around a little bit later on too when they're in the lab, which is, we'll go into that too. He makes another like appearance.
00:27:00
Speaker
Yeah. but we yeah But after that scene, we get introduced to the big bad, the antagonist, the whole fucking pharmaceutical company, Rorator Pharmaceuticals.
00:27:12
Speaker
Yeah, the the big dog. Yep. And Dave Foley's like main character for the movie, Marv, Yes, yes.
00:27:23
Speaker
they know They're watching him come in on the helicopter and they're like, how's this mood today? Not sure. And they say, any ah idea what color socks he's wearing?
00:27:34
Speaker
And they're like, red. And he's like, oh, shit. He's wearing red socks, red socks. And he's they send it down and they have to unroll this blue carpet at the elevator and they roll up this red carpet to match his socks.
00:27:46
Speaker
ah Right, and it speaks to his intimidating ah character because he doesn't say to change the carpet. All he does is yell out red socks and the entire place starts panicking.
00:28:01
Speaker
They know, yeah. They literally get the carpet and the blue carpet pulled away and the red carpet rolled just in time for the elevator doors to open. And when he comes through, the first thing he fucking does is lift his fucking pant legs to see if his socks match the carpet. And and this is our this is our main antagonist, kind of.
00:28:21
Speaker
Don Rorator, owner of Rorator Pharmaceuticals, played by our man Mark McKinney. That's right. He's incredible. he is fucking He's basically doing an impression of Lorne Michaels the whole time.
00:28:36
Speaker
yeah that's Yeah, a very fucking extreme version of Lorne Michaels. yeah yeah Which is hilarious in and of itself, too. right No one is safe. no one is safe Right, because Lorne Michaels produced this fucking kids in the hall stuff. so they're taking You're making fun of the guy that paid for all your shit. Right, they're taking shots at Big Daddy here.
00:28:58
Speaker
Yeah. Incredible. ah love it. No one is fucking safe, man. And at ah Natalie, the assistant, asks Don how the board of directors meeting went.
00:29:10
Speaker
Oh, yeah. Don clears the room and screams. So, you know, this is this perfect narcissist behavior where he just clears everybody out. Get the fuck out of here. i need I need to vent.
00:29:24
Speaker
It's all about yeah me I need the room alone for a moment. My empire is crumbling!
00:29:37
Speaker
ah Right, everyone back in. And he's like, okay, everybody back in.
00:29:49
Speaker
Yeah. Yep, and they're losing money because of his invention. Yeah, Stummies just aren't aren't bringing it anymore, you know, and they need a new drug.
00:30:02
Speaker
but They're going have to start trimming the fat. Fucking Stummies. what What a great name for some, I'm guessing they're antacids.
00:30:14
Speaker
I want to say there's something. There's some and there's some psychological, pharmaceutical, painkiller, fucking whatever, you know? Like Advils? Something, yeah. What is the ah period pill? The fucking... For period cramps, it's something like that.
00:30:35
Speaker
What, the ah morning after pill? No, you know that. Oh, wait, no, that's the...
00:30:44
Speaker
No, my doll, that's what it is. my Okay. I was way off. i hey Yeah, you're like yeah like, fuck them kids.
00:30:57
Speaker
Period pain, abortion. okay yeah You know when your stomach's hurting, you're like, fuck that kid. yeah yeah Kill the head and the body will die.
00:31:12
Speaker
It'll clear your cramps right up, right? Yeah, that like that would definitely take care of your cramps.
00:31:20
Speaker
Probably give you some more. And mental cramps. anna And a guy who's fallen on hard times, but we all remember him fondly, has a cameo here.
00:31:32
Speaker
Yeah. Because regardless of what you think, you know, Brendan Fraser has fallen has had some rough years. But back in the day, he gave us some good shit. And it's awesome that yeah he... I don't know what the deal was, but he didn't have to be in this movie. He was a huge star. He was a huge star at the time. I mean, he had just come out of fucking Encino, man, not too many years prior. He was riding high, man.
00:31:58
Speaker
um And I forgot that he was even in this fucking movie until this part. So it was like, holy shit, I forgot. he had like zits all over his face. Everybody had zits all over their face. It's funny you said you forgot that he was in this movie because I'll tell you what my memory was.
00:32:15
Speaker
I remembered this scene, but later when he's in the movie, I thought that he was playing the character that Scott Thompson is playing. Oh, yeah. In that scene, I remembered it that way. Like he was the one okay that came out of the room last, you know?
00:32:32
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. But when I rewatched it, I was like, Oh, there goes Brendan Fraser. So, and then I was like, Oh, it's Scott Thompson. That makes sense. Yeah.
00:32:43
Speaker
You'll know what I'm talking about later, but this is, that's, that's how I remembered this scene. But yeah, Brendan Fraser there, there apparently I, uh, they have their placebo group and Brendan Fraser's catching on because all the people in his group have pimples and Yeah, from all the sugar pills.
00:33:02
Speaker
Yeah, and he's like, what is what's in this? He goes, I'm in the placebo group, aren't I? They're like, take this pill. He's like, no! Yeah, yeah, and hats off, man. i'm ah I'm a fan of his. I don't care. He was huge for a while. It doesn't matter. he was he's Just that he was in this movie gives him... I got respect for him because he certainly didn't have to and he wasn't credited.
00:33:27
Speaker
so yeah He's just a fan. He's just a fan. He's a friend. Yep. But we go back. ah You know, when they are walking down the hall, what is that thing called that Mrs. Hurticure is spinning in? Oh, that fucking gyroscope fucking thing. I wanted to look that up because I was like, I would love to fucking have one of those in my house.
00:33:51
Speaker
But I wouldn't even begin to know what you would Google for that. I think it's just a gyroscope or something. To find out like what you would... Didn't South Park come up with the bike that was based around that? Well, it was a circle, but it wasn't the same thing.
00:34:12
Speaker
the um What was that thing called? the where Where when you pedaled it, it shoved a dildo in your ass? Yeah.
00:34:26
Speaker
And you had to steer it with, you had the thing that went in your mouth and that's how you steered it. ah Yeah. Yeah. Right. Yeah.
00:34:35
Speaker
I need to, you know, I need to start watching South Park again. i haven't seen it in so long that in the background, that's my fucking, uh, tornado siren going off. So I might get getting ready go down. Yep.
00:34:50
Speaker
Ohio's getting ready to go. uh, but you know, there, uh, uh, Marv, our boy, uh, Dave Foley comes to get Dr. Cooper to take him to meet Don.
00:35:06
Speaker
That's right. And while they're walking, one of the characters that I remembered, uh, while, while he's taking him up to meet Don, one of the characters that all these years I, I quoted,
00:35:21
Speaker
all the time was ah Bruce McCulloch's character when he's telling him about the drug he invented. When I clean that bird's gleaming guts off my windshield. No, that's Cisco.
00:35:35
Speaker
Oh, Cisco, yeah. That's still Bruce McCulloch, but it's Bruce McCulloch. Oh, the fucking, yeah, worms with ex-girlfriend, yeah yeah. That fucking, I forgot about that, yes.
00:35:46
Speaker
Oh my fucking god. I remembered that over all these years because i for whatever reason that scene stuck out in my head. It's a pill yeah to give worms to ex-girlfriends.
00:36:00
Speaker
and But what does it do?
00:36:03
Speaker
It's a pill that gives worms to ex-girlfriends. It is a drug for the world to give worms to ex-girlfriend he's like you don't get it you guys just don't get it and he's like look this is just an informal chat we were wondering what you were working on in your lab well i've invented a pill that gives worms to ex-girlfriends they're all so great man i hope someday this movie's gonna catch on
00:36:41
Speaker
Oh, dude. ah and and It needs to be... it needs to i mean, oh my god. And Scott Thompson's character ah when he's telling them about the drug he invented.
00:36:55
Speaker
Yeah. It's kind of like Stummies. yeah It's exactly like Stummies. Yeah. it But it's a much bigger pill. Yeah.
00:37:09
Speaker
ah And Natalie, I think it is, the assistant, she leans in and says, as long as there aren't any flipper babies. Well, there there has been a couple flipper babies.
00:37:25
Speaker
Look up flipper babies. It was a real thing. so It still is, yeah. Yeah, it still is. But yeah, flipper babies. I think it's a dying generation, but yeah, it's still there. It's still there. But I fucking love Bruce McCulloch's.
00:37:43
Speaker
It's a pill for the world. You don't get it. You just don't get
00:37:56
Speaker
They bring Dr. Cooper in and they, they pressure him to tell him what the new drug is that they've heard about. And he said, well, it's a drug that cures depression. So he's like, Oh, tell me more, you know? And they basically pressure him into saying, he was like, well, don't have my notes. And Natalie's like, here's your notes. And he's like, well, appears I do have my notes. Yeah. I guess I do have my fucking notes.
00:38:20
Speaker
Yeah. and they but yeah they hadn't fully tested it yet you know aside from what they had already seen yeah they're all just pressuring him into releasing it which is kind of commentary on true life that's why we said this movie's relevant even more now than ever Especially, yeah, because of just how everything's out now with all the shit that they were already calling out to begin with. Right, because, and this movie kind of points it out, where, ah you know, pharmaceutical companies, i this isn't funny, but pharmaceutical companies, you know, if they make $10 billion dollars off a drug and get sued for killing thousands of, hundreds of people, and get sued for, like, $4 billion, they still made $6 billion. dollars So...
00:39:06
Speaker
Yeah, and they still fight it. like still They still fight it. right yeah That's why motherfuckers are getting shot in the street. ah ah Just saying.
00:39:17
Speaker
But this movie's a pretty pretty ah good commentary on that kind of shit. yeah But anyway, ah you know, he goes back, ah Chris Cooper, ah Kevin McDonald, you know, he goes back to the lab and tells everybody that the drug's been approved. that there Yeah, he's like, yay!
00:39:40
Speaker
Yay! And they go out and get shit-faced. Well, we see a come-around with Foley's lab character that pops in out of nowhere, and he's like, ah yeah yeah, let's celebrate!
00:39:53
Speaker
ah So then it cuts to them at the bar and Foley's not even there. So it's just like, it's just like whenever we've had Lizzie Borden open for us and like, they never show up. Yeah. Fucking assholes.
00:40:04
Speaker
Every time you book them, like, and they just never show up. they know it's amazing They need to change their name to the unreliables. Unreliables. Unreliable. Just like, just like Dave Foley 1996 was unreliable.
00:40:21
Speaker
unreliable Yeah, it was awesome, though. i like to I like that they still brought him back around, like, fuck it, let's put him in this scene, you know? And then he's just not even there, like, when they're all getting drunk.
00:40:32
Speaker
Yeah. and then you but know also But knowing what we know, it makes sense, right? Yeah, yeah. he's not in scenes like that, because... But it's cool, like, I don't know, it's still, it just goes to show how they fucking pulled off this comedic genius.
00:40:52
Speaker
so yeah they're everybody's getting all drunk and stuff and uh what's uh what's the one lab assistant that uh i'm an elephant rider yeah he's i'm an elephant rider but he comes up to the table and he was like you want some drink you want some drink okay well he keeps going back and forth then he comes back and he's like you want some the drink and then you want some you want some of the drink that's kind of what was so aggravating is that that's the character that I don't know his name.
00:41:24
Speaker
And I'm assuming it's Simon maybe because he's, he's got a character that he's got. He's credited as playing Simon as one of his characters.
00:41:35
Speaker
But they don't really ever call him that No, they know they never they never say it. And that's what's so aggravating about this scene is because he's the one that buys the beer, so he's like, Chris, Baxter, Alice, you sit down and let Baxter order the drinks so we can find out what the fuck your name is.
00:41:55
Speaker
right Yeah, and that's why they probably did that on purpose. And it's such a silly little thing, but that's another thing I remembered over all these years of, you know, it's been probably decades since I've watched this movie, unfortunately, because it's fucking phenomenal.
00:42:12
Speaker
but Yeah, it just popped up after we talked about cover, and was like, holy fuck, I haven't watched that in forever, and I'm so glad I did. And that's one of the things that, for whatever reason, stuck in my head was ah Mark McKinney.
00:42:26
Speaker
I'm an elephant rider! It's not even funny, but for some reason, I remembered that from this movie. Yeah, which is why they put it in there.
00:42:38
Speaker
Well, I think it's because it's leading up to one of our favorite scenes, both of our favorite scenes of the entire movie, and I'll let you explain it. Oh.
00:42:49
Speaker
so
00:42:53
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So Chris and Alice are sitting there and, you know, they're talking about Basically, like, you know, what got him into this. And Chris is like, I had a father that suffered from depression.
00:43:09
Speaker
And we cut to a flashback of of ah of young Chris Coop young Dr. Cooper, like fixing a tire on his bike and. Kevin McDonald as playing his father getting out of the car.
00:43:25
Speaker
And he is the most disheveled shell of a human that you've ever seen. and he just saunters up to his son. He is so fucking relatable in this scene. Watch this scene and tell me you've never felt like this. basically brought...
00:43:40
Speaker
the epi he basically brought because he really bro Because he was really miserable during the shooting of this movie. So it really helped. like it kind I think he added that into this. Right, right.
00:43:53
Speaker
He goes, hi, hi, son. And, you know, this is like, hi, dad. And he just strokes his forehead as limp as he possibly could. And he's like, did you clean the house?
00:44:08
Speaker
And he's like, yes, dad. And he's like, that's a good boy. Just like, oh yeah yes, yes, yes, yes. yes yes yes yes yes he's How about the gun? and Did you clean the gun?
00:44:21
Speaker
Did you? Really good? Did you give the gun a good cleaning? Yeah, that's what it was. Yeah, yes, Dad. He strokes his forehead again.
00:44:33
Speaker
about the gun? yeah what about the gun? What the gun? Did you give the gun a good cleaning? Yep.
00:44:44
Speaker
good boy he goes on he's okay son goes he say i love you and then he like walks to the house and as he hits the stairs his briefcase just falls open and everything falls out of it such a subtle little fucking add to the scene absolutely that is like If you are in that mode, if you're that depressed and your briefcase opens up like that, it's just like you're in your brain you're going, the fucking hits just keep on coming.
00:45:18
Speaker
This just fucking sealed it. Right. It's like the fucking whole world is against me because my briefcase opened up on the stairs. but its yeah The last moment, that could have been his like last straw of sanity just making it into the house and his fucking briefcase popped open again. Literally the last straw.
00:45:38
Speaker
yeah Fuck this. It's time. Yeah, so we hear him go in and young ah dr but young Dr. Cooper gets back to work on his bike and we hear a fucking gunshot and it's a fucking close-up on his face like, holy shit, and then we hear, my foot!
00:46:02
Speaker
Oh, my foot! And then, pow! um foot
00:46:12
Speaker
It cuts back to the fucking Chris and he's like two hours later he hit a vital organ and finally bled out. And Alice played by Bruce McCulloch who couldn't give a fuck what he's saying just wants to fuck him.
00:46:32
Speaker
He's like, oh Chris! Oh Chris! And they almost kiss and then she runs away. Yeah, they are they almost kiss. Yeah. We're not there yet.
00:46:44
Speaker
yeah Yeah. But that fucking scene is so great. It's so memorable. ah Oh my god. Oh my foot!
00:46:56
Speaker
Ow! My foot!
00:47:00
Speaker
And that's probably how it would have gone for us had we followed down those dark roads back on our younger days. Yeah. It'd take two hours. no No gun safety training. You just pull it out with your finger on the trigger.
00:47:14
Speaker
Blowing fucking toes off and shit. Yeah. Fucking and blasted off every fucking toe before I finally made it to where I needed to be.
00:47:26
Speaker
and spent two magazines worth of fucking shit, you know? Fucking, such a great scene. This is getting expensive.
00:47:37
Speaker
Yeah, how many bullets did he have if it was two hours later? Jesus Christ. He must shot a thousand rounds.
00:47:47
Speaker
Oh my god. know like Pop, pop, pop,
00:47:51
Speaker
ah finally achieve you keep trying to shoot and you keep moving out flinching and moving all the way
00:48:03
Speaker
that's fucked up okay so yeah we're laughing hysterically about suicide here so sorry that's what this movie is yeah it's a lot of crazy shit yeah enjoy enjoy So Chris arrives back at the lab hung over his shit.
00:48:24
Speaker
Marv's waiting to take him to see Don. Yeah, and this is this is where we get to meet Sisko, who's the biggest hot piece of shit asshole in the whole movie.
00:48:36
Speaker
Dude, I'm telling you. And it's funny because he's the marketing guy. So it's like, is that commentary from them about ah trying to... Because when they made this movie,
00:48:48
Speaker
ah ah well, I kind of touched on it a little bit, but Bruce McCulloch... wanted uh they wanted cancer boy in the movie well well i'll talk about that later we can just go on because the cancer boy thing is really kind of ah really uh a touchy subject but it's funny why they kept it in the movie i think it's great that they did yeah it is it's touchy just like the suicide stuff and you know like Us having our little suicide laughter there. It's not, you know, everybody takes us seriously, but like, it's a sense of humor. It's a sense of humor so a lot of people that, especially when this movie came out, definitely, definitely but did not get.
00:49:36
Speaker
You know what I'm saying? Like, it's one of those things. Their motives, their motives for keeping... cancer boy in this movie were respectable though and we'll yeah we'll get to that because yeah they were pressured into taking that whole scene out of this movie yeah I believe every bit of that too because no one will everybody you know it's touchy man just like all of it but don't know Right, because cancer fucking sucks. And for somebody to watch this movie and think that the kids in the hall are pro-cancer because of this fucking character, yeah how fucking stupid are you?
00:50:12
Speaker
Yeah. But it's we'll get to that. Against all the rest of their sense of humor. You know, you just have to have that. i don't know. It's hard to explain if you don't have it. It's commentary, but yeah we'll get around there.
00:50:25
Speaker
But we meet Cisco, who's the biggest fucking scumbag, and they're trying to decide. beock His face. His fucking face, dude. Well, he don't have the eye patch yet.
00:50:39
Speaker
ah No, not yeah yeah But when they're deciding the color. what is this this is just when they're talking about they're deciding on the color Right, yeah, but they're in there and everybody's laughing. And what he fucking... ah This guy turns around, they introduce Dr. Cooper, and but he doesn't know it. He's like, what's he say to him? Something about, you got you got my sandwich or I'm going to have my fucking hand off.
00:51:10
Speaker
ah And then he goes, they're like, no, no, no, this is... Dr. Cooper, this is who like invented the drug. And he goes, oh, thank you for inventing your wonderful drug. Thank you for inventing your wonderful drug.
00:51:25
Speaker
That's why Bruce McCulloch fucking rules, man. i Man, it's tough because they're all so great.
00:51:37
Speaker
but yeah He's almost Cabbage Head's cousin, too. like That's who he reminds me of. but He's like yeah nephew, like Cabbage Head's nephew. But of course, Chris Cooper, Kevin McDonald, he says, well, the drug in its unsynthesized state is kind of a bluish hue because they're trying to come up with a color for the drug.
00:51:59
Speaker
Yeah, that's all they give a shit about. Right. And Cisco suggests orange. And he's yeah he says that it's, I think it looked better as a blue in the unsynthesized state, the bluish hue. I think it looked nice.
00:52:13
Speaker
Yeah. But they're like, I guess we're going to, we're doing orange. It is. Yeah. Yeah. Don. So orange. It is. Okay. Okay.
00:52:27
Speaker
It's like they fucking ask him for his opinion and they don't even fucking give a shit. Right. They just brought him up there to ask him. And since he gave him the answer they didn't want, they just ignored him.
00:52:39
Speaker
Yeah. There's like, okay, orange. It is. It's one of those things where they kind of wanted him to say like, or they wanted him to say orange so they could pretend it was his idea. Yeah.
00:52:51
Speaker
You know, but he ah he gets back to the lab and clearly overwhelmed by everything happening so fast. And our girl Alice, Alice comes up to him and she's having issues because, you know, they're not connecting yet.
00:53:07
Speaker
And yeah, she says that everything's just happening so fast. clearly not understanding that Chris is going through all this shit with Don Marr.
00:53:18
Speaker
You know? yeah So Alice runs away, knocking over one of our favorite characters. but Mrs. Hurtick here. yeah
00:53:29
Speaker
I feel like a fresh towel. You sound just fucking like her. Drying on the line.
00:53:41
Speaker
Holy shit. Oh my god. So yeah, she fucking, he picks her up and she's just hugging him and tell tells him that she's out of the old folks' home and she's working part-time as a nude art model. Oh
00:54:00
Speaker
oh my god. Fucking funny as fuck, but and then we see And then we see Alice in the background. you like peeks her head around. She's like, oh! everyone runs back off.
00:54:15
Speaker
and And then this is where we go back to the boardroom where they're trying to come up with the name. while they ah Cisco has come up with the name for the drug. yeah Gleamin X. As I was cleaning that burnt gleaming guts off my windshield, it came to me.
00:54:34
Speaker
Gleamin X. but as soon as i got depressed i got undepressed cause as i was cleaning the gleaming guts of that bird off my windshield i thought of the name for the drug
00:54:48
Speaker
You know, here's something funny that I noticed during this scene, and it might be because money is a an issue nowadays, but Cisco is like a rich asshole, right?
00:55:01
Speaker
Yeah. Well, he says, he mentions, he goes, He's advertising like whoever's in charge of marketing or something. Yeah, yeah's but he's basically a rich asshole anyway. That's like boiled down to the bare minimum. That's what his character is. He's just a rich asshole.
00:55:21
Speaker
yeah he But he's talking about driving around in his $62,000 car. I was like, how fucking times have changed. Yeah. $62,000 is like a basic fucking car nowadays.
00:55:36
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. you You'd probably be like, ooh, $62,000, that's a deal.
00:55:44
Speaker
Yeah. For brand new car, yeah. Isn't that fucking crazy? Yeah, it's average price now. Yeah. But back then, yeah, I mean, you know, it nicer car back then. Back then, you could buy a house and a car for that.
00:56:00
Speaker
Yeah, you could. You could. You could put... You could buy a brand new car and then fucking them put a huge down payment down on your house and almost be paid off. and Well, not that far, but yeah, close.
00:56:10
Speaker
I did notice, I think it's in the elevator, but when there're when they're in the elevator, the Muzak that's playing is the Grivo song that he plays in the Suicide Club.
00:56:24
Speaker
Is it? didn't realize that. But it's like a Muzak version of it. it's like a muzak version of it Right, yeah. i That's fucking funny.
00:56:36
Speaker
yeah I'll have to keep an ear out next time watch it. Yeah, and ah when they cut to the Queen of... I guess he's supposed to be the Queen of England, because he really yeah fucking looks like, even though this movie is Canadian, and it was shot... Well, no, but that's but that's why, because, you know, they especially then, but they they'd have the Queen played by him.
00:56:59
Speaker
It was shot in Canada. Yeah. canadia yeah but yeah just so that uh she could approve it as well but distribution let me try this because when they do this ah when she stamps it's scott thompson playing the queen of england by the way yeah that's who that's who played her in the episodes too yeah when he's stamping approved on the drug you get like the scientific name for the drug and I'll try to pronounce what Gleamanex really is, it's Durofloriximinimum 602.
00:57:37
Speaker
I wonder what that came from. Durofloriximinimum 602 is what Gleamanex's scientific name is.
00:57:48
Speaker
Huh. Which is probably nothing. It's just commentary on how fucking yeah how crazy they name these drugs. Yeah. You know, it's probably just some your doctor's like, what are you on? And you're like, I can't fucking know. I can't pronounce it. It could be like an inside joke.
00:58:05
Speaker
You know what I'm saying? As some of these things are you know? Yeah. Whatever it is, it makes it feel like it's 72 degrees in your head at all times. Oh, no, Kevin. You're ah you're a subject of their packaging and promotions.
00:58:24
Speaker
yeah I am. hey yeah I've been adopted. You're chanting, Kevin. Yeah, you're chanting. I've come a long way from the placebo group. It makes it feel like it's 72 degrees in your head all the time. It makes it feel like it's 72 degrees in your head all the time.
00:58:42
Speaker
thank you part of that You're part of the company. Disco has you. You're a cog in the wheel, man.
00:58:51
Speaker
Oh my god. ah yeah So we get the montage of like the drug production of the Gleamnex heading out, shipping out into the world. and Didn't they just use a bunch of random stock footage?
00:59:07
Speaker
Probably. Yeah. That's what it looked like. i mean Because they did that again with like the big crowds at the awards show later on. It's just like a bunch of old old fucking footage and they didn't do anything to like make it look like it fit in the movie, they were just like, here you go, here's some B-roll. They should have recorded off like the award shows in the past, you know? They should have took B-roll from the Nickelodeon Slime fucking awards or some shit. Yeah, that would have been stupid. That would have been awesome.
00:59:39
Speaker
So, yeah, we get the Nina Bedford show, which is not played by our boy. Yeah, our fucking chameleon, Mark McKinney.
00:59:51
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And first thing, when she comes out, is, hi, y'all. You all like my dress? And they're like, boo!
01:00:02
Speaker
But this is where you start to see Mr. Cooper, Kevin MacDonald, starting to like the attention that he's getting. So this is kind of the turn in the movie here.
01:00:14
Speaker
yeah Yeah, when he's up there, and she's asking him, dumb quet a dumb question, and then the audience start asking him questions about, like, nothing relating to the drug, essentially. Yeah. And then, what, they get him up and get him dancing?
01:00:29
Speaker
Yeah. the Looks like he's got some swinging hips or something, and he... not unusual to be loved by you. Oh, that's what it was. Who'd they say he looked like? Fucking, uh... That motherfucker.
01:00:40
Speaker
I forget who they said he looked like, but, yeah, he was, uh... But that's the song that you're singing, and that's who sings it, and he caught up and... Yeah. It's somebody really famous that.
01:00:52
Speaker
ah God damn it. I know his name because he. Yeah, that's not. He was all the parent. Oh, the wives wanted to bang him back in the day or something. Yeah.
01:01:03
Speaker
Yeah. and But this is kind of where Chris Cooper starts to like the attention. And and of course, he does when he's swinging his hips. Yeah, and his sis goes waiting on the side of the stage. He's like, fucking asshole.
01:01:20
Speaker
Yeah, he's like looking at him like, say it, say it. Because he says, it makes it feel like it's 72 degrees in your head all the time. And everybody's like, whoo.
01:01:32
Speaker
So this is another one of those iconic scenes from the movie where we go to two police officers played by Mark McKinney and Bruce McCulloch.
01:01:43
Speaker
You know, the characters from the show still. Yeah. yeah But they're awesome. ah But they're talking about the Nina Bedford show, which we just saw.
01:01:54
Speaker
And Bruce McCulloch's character mistakes it for an episode that he thinks he saw about toast fucking.
01:02:07
Speaker
Yeah. and And Mark McKinney's character's like, what?
01:02:14
Speaker
And he says, you know where you fuck or get fucked with toast. And then they just kind of graze over it because he says, oh, maybe that was just a dream I had.
01:02:26
Speaker
Yeah.
01:02:31
Speaker
Hey, did you see that Nina Bedford show this morning? Yeah, that thing about toast fucking.
01:02:40
Speaker
Toast fucking? Yeah, it's the new thing where you fuck or get fucked with toast. No, the show this morning was about that new drug.
01:02:50
Speaker
must have been a dream i had is it it's uh mark mckinney that goes to the bathroom here right yeah yeah but you know what when he opens the door and goes in the bathroom you know what runs out of there it's about ah about 50 dudes that were that kept falling down with their pants around their ankles in the bathroom it's about 50 uh good guys good guys yeah
01:03:19
Speaker
25 gay guy couples. 50 gay guys. So, yeah. So this is coming back around coming back around on fucking fire. oh wait. Yeah. um we got We got our boy Wally.
01:03:35
Speaker
like Terzinski. oh
01:03:43
Speaker
he's the only one it's funny because when they all run out of the bathroom uh bruce mcculloch his police character is pointing a gun at all of them freaked him out he's gonna execute him they all came fucking running out dude and the only one out of all those people that gets caught is our boy wally Yeah.
01:04:12
Speaker
They stole his wallet.
01:04:17
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ah Yeah, so he says. He stole his wallet.
01:04:24
Speaker
ah so He's fucking naked.
01:04:29
Speaker
They decide not to charge Wally, but instead bring him naked back to his wife because they thought that was punishment enough. I love when Scott Thompson plays like the whitest straightest guy is and fucking credible.
01:04:46
Speaker
Like every time. Cause it's so like oh over the top. Oh, no. Well, I don't know. I don't know if I mentioned this yet, but just for some context, Scott Thompson is the only openly gay character of the kids in the hall.
01:05:05
Speaker
nice Oh, i guess. Yeah, I guess we never really said that at all. yeah Yeah. You know, that's comes back to like when we were younger, like a lot of people referred to kids in the hall. It's like the gay comedy thing. But yeah. And a lot of people didn't watch it because of that because they're fucking stupid.
01:05:21
Speaker
Right. Right. But he's the only openly gay a cast member. But come on, that was ahead of it that. was That was kind of ahead of its day. it still kind of was in 96 for sure. it was ahead of its time.
01:05:35
Speaker
It was in, but that also allowed them to skirt a bunch of stuff, you know, being censored and it's, comparative to the Chappelle show and the, the humor, I would say between these two like type types of shows are identical as far as no one's fucking safe.
01:05:57
Speaker
It's fucking hilarious. right You know, you shouldn't be laughing at it, but you are, you know, and it's, and it's making you happy, not in that way, but it's just, it's giving you some kind of fucking joy, you know?
01:06:08
Speaker
Yeah, and they were they were fucking brothers. These guys loved each other. So all right yeah Scott Thompson being gay gave them like a um a way to an angle that they could play where it's like, ah you can you can criticize them all you want.
01:06:26
Speaker
They are not homophobic. Yeah, they're not. yeah They fucking love that dude. And he's fucking hilarious. He's incredible. He's an incredible person, man. Some of the jokes they do because of that is fucking great.
01:06:41
Speaker
And ah yeah it wouldn't have happened otherwise. So whatever. there can All their chemistry together is just incredible. you know And I think it's because they're all different. you know All their comedy is so different from each other. But they meld.
01:06:57
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I just wanted to mention that because he goes pretty hard. yeah he does on this. It might seem like he's making fun of gay people, but he is gay. So yeah keep that in mind. He's not he's not being an asshole.
01:07:11
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Yeah. Because when they bring him home... Yeah, oh, dude. I want you to go ahead and take this part, because this fucking hilarious. Oh my god. The police bring him up to the house, and yes, he's naked, and he's just holding his dick and balls in his hands. You know, he's handcuffed.
01:07:34
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And they bring him up to the house... the house And um she says, ah she, meaning Kevin MacDonald, playing wife yeah his wife, his lovely, beautiful wife.
01:07:49
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She says, were the handcuffs really necessary? And we find out that those were at his request. yeah And that smile on his face when they say that.
01:08:03
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what was What was his excuse that he gave her? he said i'm I'm going to try my best, but ah like i it's hard to remember. But he says something like, I was driving around and I saw what i had to take the biggest pee in the world.
01:08:20
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And he says, ah and i went in and it was full of those types, you know, queers and queens. And he says, one of them, one of them, uh, what I'm trying to, his pants were down around his ankles and he fell over or something. One of them, uh, gripped me by the bar. He says, they it did oh no, he's, it cuts to him eventually at the therapist. And he goes, didn't you tell me that you had gripped him by the buttocks and pulled him?
01:08:48
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yeah that's yourself Well, yes, but his pants were down around his goddamn ankles. I was concerned he might fall.
01:09:07
Speaker
Watch this movie, trust us. Scott Thompson's fucking Wally character is fucking amazing. is so fuck it He's off the fucking chain, dude.
01:09:19
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It's fucking crazy. No, no, no. I went out driving, because as you know, I love driving, when suddenly I had to take the biggest pee in the world. So ah I saw this washroom. So I stopped in, and but it was full of those types. You know, queers and queens.
01:09:36
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So one of them tried to kiss me, and I said no. No! No, no, no, no! Yeah, but he cuts the therapist again as Dave Foley, you know, listening to him. And he goes, oh so Doc, why do you why do you think this happened?
01:09:54
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Something, he's like, why do you think this happened to me? And he says, you're because you're gay. um yeah because you're gay.
01:10:05
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He's like, I'm not following, what do you mean? Yeah.
01:10:11
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He goes, hey, he's like, everybody knows it. God, dogs know it. Yeah, he's...
01:10:21
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Oh my God, this is fucking great. He prescribes some Gleeman X to him and he says, if I take this, will I still be in denial?
01:10:32
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And Dave Foley says, no, hopefully you'll just be Yeah. yeah
01:10:44
Speaker
What incredible fucking dialogue. Oh my god. oh This whole scene is like the fucking... but this is if If you don't watch this movie, watch this fucking scene.
01:10:57
Speaker
Scott Thompson is fucking hilarious. He's fucking... yeah he I had to take the biggest pee in the world.
01:11:07
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And it was full of those types.
01:11:12
Speaker
I don't know his goddamn ankle.
01:11:24
Speaker
Oh, I'm in fucking tears. This fucking movie, dude. I was in fucking tears. I watched it again last night. You know, watched it the other night. i was fucking just all by myself, just fucking dying, dude. i was like, oh my god.
01:11:38
Speaker
Fucking crazy. I'm fucking Scott Thompson. He's an American treasure or a Canadian treasure. going to say, he's a Canadian treasure.
01:11:50
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he' But we and we love him. Canadia. Yeah. We ain't like them other types. We love you.
01:12:00
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Yeah. We're not like those queers and queens.
01:12:07
Speaker
Oh, God. He's something else. So, we're in the in the taxi ride with Scott Thompson again. Yeah.
01:12:23
Speaker
When ah Mark McKinney's cab driver explains what Gleamon X is made from... It's monkey cum? It's made from monkey cum.
01:12:37
Speaker
Yeah, dude. That's just... Oh, my God. Oh, man. Fucking... Yeah. And Kevin MacDonald is playing a woman again in that scene. Yeah. He just plays the... That guy plays, like, the ugliest, poorest, unfortunate women.
01:12:57
Speaker
Every... Like I said, dude, every woman... It's just because he's just got the face for it, but, like, every woman he plays, even the acting is, like... so fucking done with like life in one way or another.
01:13:10
Speaker
you know what saying? This one, what's she say to the cab driver? She's like, you are a horrible man or something when they get out of the cab
01:13:23
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cab. And then we go right back to our boy, Glenn Danzig. Yeah, we got Grevo back. hey He stops the show. He's like, I want to talk about it. It's funny because he's playing like Glenn Danzig, but when he talks, he sounds like i want to sounds like me. He goes, I want to talk about this drug.
01:13:46
Speaker
It's supposed to make you happy. And they're all guessing, and then he goes... Then he says... I think he mentions Gleam... He says Gleamon X. I don't know if he's name of the And then says, fuck happy.
01:14:02
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Yeah, he goes, fuck happy!
01:14:09
Speaker
Then they go right... ah du da da da da da The crowd's just eating it up. Oh, they're loving it. They fucking... That... um I skipped over it at the beginning, but when that girl puts the cigarette out on her arm.
01:14:27
Speaker
Yeah, oh, I wrote that fucking down too. It's our boy fucking Mark McKinney next to her. Playing another character. Oh my Oh my Yeah, dude. Yes.
01:14:41
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yeah do yeah He has the braces in. Yeah. That character's been in a bunch of episodes. Six foot tall with the braces in. Clearly in her.
01:14:55
Speaker
Oh my god. Oh my god. And then he starts mimicking her because she like puts her hand up in the air. yeah So Mark McKinney does too.
01:15:08
Speaker
And like, that's, it's fucking incredible. It's like, my character's not in like the rest of the movies just, they just threw him in. Like, here you go. You know what I'm saying? Like, we got all these characters. It's fan service, you know?
01:15:21
Speaker
Absolutely. Absolutely. and it's awesome. Yeah. Oh my God. Oh my God.
01:15:35
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oh one of our actually One of our obligations of Dave Foley, his appearances, he has to come in and give Don a copy of Drug Variety magazine. Yeah.
01:15:49
Speaker
Where he downplays the success of Gleeman X. Mm-hmm. And it's number one in pharmaceutical drug sales. By a fucking mile.
01:16:00
Speaker
By a mile, yeah. We beat penicillin!
01:16:06
Speaker
He tells him to clear the boardroom again so he can yell at it. And it's only him and Marv. Yeah. ye He clears it out, though. And I have the room.
01:16:17
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We beat penicillin!
01:16:25
Speaker
But I'm gonna let Kevin have this next one because we go back our favorite. probably but Probably our favorite character of the movie. Yeah, Wally.
01:16:37
Speaker
Our boy Trudzinski. are Our boy Wallace. Our boy Wallace. So he's we come back to him and once again and he's in his bedroom taking a shower again. Watching his gay porn and he's he's like, he decides to take his fucking Gleeman X. So he takes it.
01:17:01
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hate takess He flashes back to when he was in boot camp.
01:17:15
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Oh, yes, sir.
01:17:22
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And it's our boy McKinney doing that part, too. Yeah. Heart muscles. Oh, muscles. and Then it's suggested that ah Scott, our boy Wally, he's got... You know, he's a yeah full staff.
01:17:43
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Oh, yeah, he's full staff at this point. Boned up.
01:17:49
Speaker
He's boned up. Fucking Wally is yeah such a great character. hey He's fucking carrying some of those movies.
01:17:59
Speaker
His fucking mustache, dude. Like... like He's got the porn stash. It's, yeah, it's like borderline, like it's right on the edge of like the big porn stash, but businessman, you know, like it's right on that edge.
01:18:16
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so But he has, but it goes to the scene where he has the uncomfortable moment where Kevin's got turn to turn the volume down. Not let the family see this scene because it's uncomfortable.
01:18:31
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Oh yeah, it's all... Wally comes downstairs and he's like, guess what? He's like, gay! And they're all like, yay!
01:18:43
Speaker
His lovely wife and his two kids. Yeah. but And then he fucking has this entire song, dude.
01:18:55
Speaker
Oh my god. His I'm gay song. Yeah. Yeah, the movie stops for a minute so Wally can have his one man. Well, it's not one man. It's his little cult. It's like his cul-de-sac.
01:19:08
Speaker
Yeah. Gay pride parade the middle of the movie. It's awesome. Everyone's just like, duh. Yeah, there everybody's like, really? You just figured this out? like Yeah, it's fucking hilarious, man.
01:19:24
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But we're about, but, you know, ah Wally might be our favorite character, or maybe. he's Yeah, he's definitely one of them. i mean, there's... He's up there.
01:19:37
Speaker
But we are about, if you've made it this far in the movie, you're about to meet the man. Yeah. The man, the myth, the legend. Cancer boy. boy Cancer boy.
01:19:52
Speaker
Hello, I am Cancer boy. So I've talked a little bit about this earlier, but I'll just get this. Sorry, my marrow is soft. I'll get this out of the way before we talk about Cancer Boy, just because this is why he's in the movie.
01:20:09
Speaker
Okay. I've been wanting to hear this cause I don't know this at Paramount wanted to cut Cancer Boy, right? yeah And um because it offended... Well, right rightfully, if this is their real reason, they said it offended one of the executives who lost a loved one to cancer, right?
01:20:29
Speaker
But... but The reason Cancer Boy is in the movie is not to make fun of people who have cancer. It's to make fun of Hollywood people that use people that have cancer as like a... They exploit them.
01:20:45
Speaker
You know, yeah for their own... as They make them an anchor right for their for their shit. ye Right. So they wanted to cut Cancer Boy, and Bruce McCulloch was like, fuck you guys, Cancer Boy staying in the movie, because he felt like he they needed to make this point with the movie. You know, how how Hollywood exploited people with ah diseases or dis disabilities or whatever.
01:21:09
Speaker
Which they do. Absolutely they do. Yep. Calling it for what it is. So in retaliation, the fucking assholes, this is why this movie tanked, and this is why it's probably not at cult status, because... um the ah executives cut their promotions by two thirds. So because of that, really?
01:21:36
Speaker
Wow. They fucked them because they had cancer boy in the movie. And they're like, no, fuck you, we're gonna keep it in here, and it's gonna be fucking hilarious. That's what I'm saying. Hats off. Yes. yeah do we We do not think cancer is funny. That's not what this scene is about. This scene is about the way Hollywood exploits cancer.
01:21:57
Speaker
So keep that in mind going forward with this. And ah kind of the reason the movie just flopped so hard is because they had this character in the movie. Yeah.
01:22:08
Speaker
Everybody got offended. Yeah, everybody well, ah for the mostly they just cut all their promotion funding and everything. as Well, yeah, that too. has Because they were we were they were basically making fun of Hollywood for exploiting these, you know.
01:22:24
Speaker
Yeah, they were trying to turn it around on them. Yeah, and ah hats off to the fucking kids in the hall and Bruce McCulloch for keeping this character in the movie, because he's awesome all that aside, this scene is fucking hilarious. Yeah, all that, yeah.
01:22:40
Speaker
Yeah, all that other the way. Oh my god. And he's of course, he's playing Cancer Boy. Yeah. So, ah Marv, you know... He's got the flannel flags on his... gay Dave Foley introduces...
01:22:57
Speaker
ah Marv introduces Chris to Cancer Boy and...
01:23:07
Speaker
He says, are you on the drug? he said no, but... There is no hope for me. but there is no hope for me.
01:23:17
Speaker
My parents, they are so very low. Not because of me, but because my brother was born with his heart on the outside of his body.
01:23:33
Speaker
I'd like to thank you for your marvelous drug. Oh, are you on it, Cancer Boy? No, there is no hope for me. But my parents are on it, though.
01:23:46
Speaker
They were so very low, not just because of me, but because my brother was born with his heart on the outside of his body.
01:23:55
Speaker
And then he fucking hands him this little pastry. What the fuck is that? He's like, eh, eh, and like hands it to him and he gets it and then he like shakes his hand and he's ow.
01:24:12
Speaker
Does he say my merit my marrow is low? Oh, it's okay. My marrow is just low. Yeah.
01:24:26
Speaker
This fucking dude. And when they when they walk away, he starts moving back and forth in his wheelchair. Did you see? Did you see? Did you see when you hit the doctor? Did you see?
01:24:39
Speaker
yeah like, did you see the doctor in me? Did you see? Did you see the doctor in me? Which is, knowing what you just said leading up to this part completely just fucking like gave you it's was the punchline of the fucking joke right there. Because he's like, did you see the doctor in me? Right, he's just making fun of this shit. Blatantly, yeah. yeah Did you Did you see?
01:25:05
Speaker
The doctor in me? Did you see? Did you see? oh my god. Fucking cancer boy.
01:25:13
Speaker
it's a terrible It's terrible on paper. you know yeah oh yeah But if you have context and you know why they kept it in the movie, it's just Just the, uh, I mean, just ah even reading this, like reading this outline, like I can imagine when they're reading like the treatment or whatever, but even reading the outline that that you made, it's just this, is you know, cancer boy, it's just written in there. It's like, you know, it does. It looks horrible. If someone was to read this and go, what the fuck kind of movie is this?
Cult Status and Unique Elements
01:25:46
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Did you
01:25:47
Speaker
Did you see? did you see the doctor in Did you see? oh and Oh my fucking god. Oh, we ain't done yet either.
01:25:58
Speaker
no no That's like the transition period to three months later when... There's no hope left for me. ah There's no hope left me. No, there's no hope for me.
01:26:13
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My parents are so very low. They're so very low. Not because of me, um but because my brother.
01:26:31
Speaker
fucking... I have no idea why this movie does not have cult status. I don't either. I'm i'm i'm calling it cult, man. I don't give a fuck.
01:26:42
Speaker
I feel like it's always been that way. Yeah. Yeah. yeah But...
Character Developments and Success
01:26:49
Speaker
That leads into three months later when Chris has clearly let the success go to his head because he's in a meeting trying to decide a name for deciding whether a dog should be the mascot for Gleamanex for pets. Which right dog should be?
01:27:11
Speaker
Which dog, yeah. They're just staring at this dog. Gleamanex for pets! Yeah.
01:27:20
Speaker
Yeah, and he's just sitting there staring He's like, nope, not this one. I'm not seeing it. You know, just one also, you might get to see Cancer Boy again pretty soon. Yeah, that's what i was saying. We're not done yet.
01:27:33
Speaker
We're not done yet. He's coming. Because we go back to the Suicide Club and our boy Grivo, I don't know. and They say it in the movie.
01:27:45
Speaker
Grivo? Is it Grivo? I think it's Grivo, yeah. he He stops the show because ah he's got a new song.
01:27:57
Speaker
Yep. He's got a whole new thing for his fans, man. in this fucking shit right here. Happiness pie. Yeah, he gives, he has them bring out a fucking acoustic guitar. They put it on him and he's just, sing us, sing us a couple bars there, Alan.
01:28:19
Speaker
I forget the words. I wish I would have written them down. He says something like, uh, sadness is a barnacle on our boat of happiness or some shit like that. What'd you say? Come, come with me.
01:28:32
Speaker
I have pie. ah Happiness pie. And we get like this montage of shots of just random characters like jumping in the pie.
01:28:43
Speaker
One of which is the dude that's in a towel and he's getting blessed by a fucking like priest or some shit. I was going to say most of the characters in this little montage or his video are like people we've seen throughout the movie that are miserable.
01:29:01
Speaker
Yeah, and we hadn't seen the bath towel guy yet and then he makes an appearance. Yeah. His towel's red this time, his towel's usually white.
01:29:13
Speaker
He's just staring at the camera. And Grevo wins the award for best new contemporary song. Happiness High. They walk him out on stage, and then he goes to leave, and he starts walking the wrong way. They turn him around. He's like, ugh. He goes, oh, yeah. Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey.
01:29:38
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well oh we get okay we get the comeback around here so yeah with the beautiful supermodel played by who ah scott thompson klem tour think they were like was it chris cooper Yeah, Chris Cooper and k Clem Tor are presenting a ah ah the boys, the what is it? The best new Cancer Boys new song, Whistle wa When You're Low.
01:30:13
Speaker
Yeah, Whistle When You're Low.
01:30:18
Speaker
Can you whistle us a couple bars? Oh my god, it looks like... um Remember those old... Remember when you would go to like the malls and they would have those booths that you could get in that would do like the... Music videos? Yeah, the music videos. That's exactly what this looks like. That's exactly what it looks like, yeah. background I mean... he i can't it. I don't...
01:30:47
Speaker
He's got the flannel, the red flannel blanket and the red flannel flags. And he's not moving. It just moves him into frame and he's sitting in his wheelchair.
01:31:01
Speaker
That's so bad, but funny. It's so bad, yeah. but
01:31:09
Speaker
Holy shit. And backstage when Chris is leaving, he's got ah like crazy fans now. And this is when Cisco Cisco gets the seagull to the face.
01:31:23
Speaker
Yep. Loses one of his eyes, allegedly. Yeah. I wonder is... The bird made its comeback. Is that like... When did that thing happen to Fabio? Remember when Fabio got the bird? he on the yeah he's on the roller coaster. Yeah, was that... That was around then.
01:31:42
Speaker
i wonder if that was before or after this movie. I wonder if... It was around then. yeah he took it to the nose. It blasted him in the nose. Yeah. That shit's so fucking funny. Yeah.
01:31:56
Speaker
I'm sure he's a very nice man, but it was still funny. But, you know, we go to the next morning and Chris wakes up and he's got two women in his bed.
01:32:06
Speaker
Isn't that nice? Oh, he's and he's letting it all go to his head. Well, like a proper fucking nerd, he still got his shirt on, too.
01:32:18
Speaker
Right. But I was wondering, is Sisko cuck? Because he's sitting in a chair watching Yeah. Even when he wakes up, he's just sitting there looking at him.
01:32:33
Speaker
With his fucking face. Like, what has Sisko been doing all night? and He's just sitting there with his fucking face.
01:32:42
Speaker
With his eye patch now, because last night he got hit in face with a seagull that took his eye out. And I guess he didn't go to the hospital, he just got an eye patch.
01:32:54
Speaker
Cisco's fucking hard as fuck, man.
01:33:00
Speaker
Oh my god. And lovely, beautiful, sexy Alice shows up.
01:33:09
Speaker
this is With Sigmund the rat. Yeah, this is another one of those scenes where it's funny because Bruce McCulloch is playing two characters here. He's Sisko and Alice.
01:33:23
Speaker
Yeah, two polar fucking opposites. Polar! Yeah, that's what I was gonna say. this is You can't get more polar than that. ah Yeah, it's like the most feminine woman and the most fucking asshole masculine male playing in the same scene.
01:33:39
Speaker
yeah yeah Kind of. Obviously, they're cutting. Yeah. You never see them in the same frame. Genius, man. Like i said, the way this movie's put together is just fucking genius.
01:33:53
Speaker
Yeah, but Alice alice fucking breaks up with Chris. Yeah. What's she saying? They're breaking up. That's tough. Yeah.
01:34:05
Speaker
Heartbreak, man. Chris is like, maybe you so should take my drug. Yeah. He's locked in. Yeah. Oh, my God.
01:34:17
Speaker
So she was trying to tell him about the fucking ah ah rat, right? It's in a coma. Rat coma. Rat coma. Yep.
01:34:28
Speaker
That's what she was trying to let him know about or whatever. Yep. This is like our first flipper babies. Yeah. we get We get comas instead of flipper babies, but I'm not sure which is the lesser of the two evils.
01:34:45
Speaker
Maybe comas. Could be bad. no And Chris gets a little perspective here and kind of comes back down to planet Earth. Yeah.
01:34:55
Speaker
Like, oh shit. Yeah, there's there's bigger things happening. And another one. He arrives at the fucking... Yeah. He arrives at the fucking Depression Project lab. He turns the lights on and scares out about 50 gay guys again.
01:35:13
Speaker
50 gay guys.
01:35:17
Speaker
Or a bunch of guys with their that have their pants down around their ankles almost falling. They had their pants down around their goddamn ankles. Goddamn ankles. And then what? you said I didn't see Brandon Frazier in this part. Like you were telling, like we're talking about, but like, I'm going to next time I'll watch it. I'm going to keep an eye out. If you watch it, he's about halfway. He's right dead center and screen.
Themes of Ethics and Consequences
01:35:40
Speaker
And he's carrying, he's carrying like a rat cage.
01:35:44
Speaker
he Oh, yes. Okay. Yeah, I do remember now. Okay. I was thinking he was like running. Okay. I do remember that. Okay.
01:35:53
Speaker
And of course, Wally. But when I remembered it as Right. Right. I remember it as... here's Captain.
01:36:03
Speaker
He's got them little panties on.
01:36:11
Speaker
He's got a polo shirt on with some little tight-ass hot pants. Yeah.
01:36:22
Speaker
So stupid.
01:36:26
Speaker
Oh, my God. But Chris is starting to realize that there's bad things happening, so he goes to Mrs. Hurticure's house.
01:36:37
Speaker
Oh, God, yeah. Cat on my head! Cat on my head!
01:36:45
Speaker
He goes outside the fucking kids fucking looking up her dress.
01:36:55
Speaker
Them kids trying to look at that old puss. One kid's just underneath it. He's like, get out of there. He should have started hitting him with the newspaper.
01:37:07
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Get out there, boy. And she's just like out there at her lawn, just pouring an endless like tea kettle. Yeah. Into nothing.
01:37:18
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Which you would go, okay, so this just happened a couple seconds ago. Right. those kids are just opportunists. ah Yeah, ah absolutely. Stop for a second. Let's look at that post.
01:37:33
Speaker
Yeah, so basically what we're seeing is it's locking them into like this coma state where it says what it just keeps replaying like that same memory and they just get latched on.
01:37:44
Speaker
yeah Yeah, it's kind of like the idea because he said like it just keeps replaying your happiest memory but now it's like consuming you to where you are just trapped in it.
01:37:58
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You're not a functional human being. You're just living in this memory.
01:38:04
Speaker
and And i I don't know. i mean, this might be... um ah This might not be a popular opinion, but I think I'd be okay with that.
01:38:17
Speaker
I'd be like, give me that drug. don't give a fuck. don't give fuck. Right? Yeah. I mean, you know, we've all had those moments. Absolutely. i will say um not a stranger to it.
01:38:31
Speaker
Yeah. I mean, if you're in any kind of pain or depression, you know, if somebody said, hey, you could live out your happiness, happiest memory for the rest of your life.
01:38:42
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nine out of ten people are taking that pill. In a very low point, yeah. I mean, you know, you're always looking for something that will take it away, essentially. You know, that could be spoken, but...
01:38:56
Speaker
And, uh, Chris, so Chris tells Don and Marv about patient nine, patient nine, five, seven, Mrs. Hurticure, uh, going into a coma because of the drug. And, you know, at this point in the movie, um, Don and Marv already know about this.
01:39:15
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yeah They already know about the comas. Oh yeah. And, uh, And Chris tells Don that they need to go to the press about it so people quit taking the drug, right?
01:39:28
Speaker
Yeah. and And they're like, that's very important. he's He's like, that's very important that you feel that way. And he fucking, he just like walks him down, right? They like go down to the talk to go talk to the press.
01:39:43
Speaker
And they take them down into the room where it's like all the patients are in this one big room just in there. on As Don calls them the acceptable losses. That's why we're saying, that's why me and Kevin both are saying that this movie is relevant today more than ever. Yeah.
01:40:01
Speaker
Yeah, it goes through and it explains all of that shit. Yep. And it's fucked. Like, it's so fucked. This whole scene is, like, entirely fucked, too. But, like, because you're seeing, like, how everybody's locked in, you know? and But it's true.
01:40:14
Speaker
You know? It's what they it's what happens. Yep. It's clearly very... It's parody. Very ah blatant parody. But it's it's also relevant and very true to today.
01:40:28
Speaker
Like, acceptable losses. If you take anything away from this movie, that's what you should take away. Because... yeah ah Yeah, that's some real shit.
01:40:39
Speaker
It is. It's some real shit. but Fucking Don and Chris getting into a bit of a scuffle. I fucking love this because Kevin MacDonald reaction the fight almost is perfect.
01:40:59
Speaker
Perfect. Because he's almost crying, but he's not. Yeah. yeah He's like, I hurt my fucking finger. Yeah.
01:41:13
Speaker
Or he says something. He's like, ow, my fucking finger. Yeah. it like Like it hurt his soul that this just happened in some weird way But he's like holding back tears because he's like, because they got in their little fight. He's like, he's so mad.
01:41:34
Speaker
He's so mad. He's crying, which makes it fucking hilarious.
01:41:40
Speaker
Is he so pent up?
01:41:47
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My empire is crumbling. empire is crumbling.
01:41:55
Speaker
and no And then we get, and it's not really a montage, but Chris walking down the street seeing everybody in a coma, and and then he comes up on ah Wally yeah with his boyfriend, and they're dressed as sailors.
01:42:12
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Yeah.
01:42:14
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And the other guy's like, come on, no secrets between sailors.
01:42:27
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Yeah. This is like the clarity moment for Chris, because when Wally falls to the ground and the pills fly out of the bottle, and then he picks one up, and it kind of triggers all his memories of the bad decisions that he's made up to this point.
01:42:42
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Yeah. Yeah. It brings it back around. ah Yeah.
01:42:50
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Wally was the trigger here. Yeah. Our boy coming back around to save, to bring somebody back down to reality. Yeah. We're back at the office building where Chris has gathered his media information.
01:43:05
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That he could, which includes the college radio. Hey, bruh. Yeah, hey, bruh. That's exactly what the dude looks like. And ah Weapons and Helmets magazine. and What are these queers?
01:43:20
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Yeah, and of course we can't miss, like, girl beat. Hi, guys. Hi, guys. Hi, y'all. Wait, I... That girl, she looks like she's, like,
01:43:33
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18 or something but she had the look on her face she looks like a 10 year old girl i know it's so funny when a when they say girl be she's like know right
01:43:48
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so funny dude we got it's so stupid the little things it's just funny they got like the most innocent looking girl to play that character it was Yeah, yeah like they got like the most random fucking pics of media. They're like, let's use these people. Marv shows up once again to ask Chris if he could spare five minutes, as he always does throughout this movie, and then takes him into this whole fucking world, and he says, this is the real press conference.
01:44:23
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He tells them where the snacks are and all his fucking team, all his college radio weapons and helmets and girl beat all go off to the fucking food. They don't give a fuck about him.
01:44:35
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They don't fucking care. Bye. And thanks to, thanks to Chris, we're breaking ground on the first of 10 new Rorator comatoriums.
01:44:53
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Comatoriums.
01:44:57
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And we get another one of Dave Foley's, uh, he feels bad, so he's shooting a scene for him, you know? Yeah. Because patient 957's in a coma, as we learned earlier, because the neighborhood kids were looking up at that, at that, uh, old lady, old lady cooter. Yeah.
01:45:20
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Old lady cooter. Yeah. He's like, we were giving the cash worth $10,000. Which I bet in 96 was a shitload of fucking money.
01:45:34
Speaker
Shitload of money now. Well, yeah, it's a shitload of money now. You ain't wrong, and there's something wrong with that. I know. That's kind of fucked up.
01:45:47
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I know, right?
01:45:50
Speaker
That should be nothing now. I know.
01:45:54
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Now I'm kind of sad.
01:45:59
Speaker
i was like, man, eight ain't inflation a bitch? um Yeah. but but oh Because of that, i mean, $20 sounds good to me.
01:46:12
Speaker
ah Yeah. A knuckle sandwich sounds good to me sometimes.
01:46:21
Speaker
Yeah, that sounds pretty... ah You know I am kind of hungry. I'm kind of hungry. I'm kind of hungry. Don't make me sandwich. No, my goddamn food. And ah Chris gives a little speech about not being happy all the time, kind of like... It's okay.
01:46:40
Speaker
Yeah, kind of like ah if every day is a sunny day, what's a sunny day? Yeah, it's okay to not be okay. Chris gives us a little speech about importance of not being happy all the time. and Yeah. to Don, Don, uh, tries to, he, he yeah he's not a doctor. He's just a fuck. He owns the company.
01:47:01
Speaker
This is the company that, uh, makes drugs. And he tells the, uh, reporters that Chris is certified depressed.
Dark Humor and Character Dynamics
01:47:13
Speaker
Right. And he has to take the pill. Because Cisco says that legally Chris has to take his own drug now. Now this is where the right, you know, obviously let's ignore that.
01:47:25
Speaker
The loose writing here.
01:47:30
Speaker
You can't make Chris take that fucking pill, but in this road, absolutely.
01:47:39
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But Chris is like, well, if the drug is so safe, Don, why don't you take it Yeah.
01:47:48
Speaker
So he makes Marv take the drug. He said, oh, of course I will. Marv, take the drug. Yeah, and Marv's happiest memory is having another man piss in Don's cappuccino.
01:48:04
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know I think he was jerking off into it, actually. Was Yeah, he was jerking off into it, because when he um when he drinks it, he's like, hmm, creamy.
01:48:15
Speaker
Chris grabs Don's dick and balls and squeezes till Don opens his mouth and then spits the pill into his mouth.
01:48:24
Speaker
What a nightmare. happiest memory that he latches on to was him drinking the cappuccino that Marv just made for him and his flashback where somebody jerked off in it.
01:48:42
Speaker
Because that was like his happiest day was drinking this creamy cappuccino.
01:48:49
Speaker
hey you would think that he's a simple man by that story. Yeah, it's pretty. That's pretty easily pleased right there. Yeah. Yeah. Right. if Your happiest memory you're a fucking cappuccino.
01:49:04
Speaker
I don't know that either. That tells one of two things. Either you're a really simple man or you're a miserable bastard. I don't know, man. There's been a couple of times where I've had like a really good, and I'm not like a coffee, like snob or anything like that.
01:49:21
Speaker
You know, i don't drink a lot of coffee. Um, but when I do, there's been a couple of times and it's been like the most amazing cup I've ever had. And it made my fucking day. Like, and I was, it took me into the next day. And then I just had it happen again we were in Chicago at that museum or whatever.
01:49:41
Speaker
Dude, I don't know it was just because of the atmosphere or because Martin Atkins made it for me or whatever, but like it was probably the most incredible cup of coffee I've had since that last incredible cup of coffee.
01:49:54
Speaker
like you're You drank the coffee and you were like, this is the best coffee I ever had. and yeah and it's i could be wrong. I could be right. yeah yeah you yeah it It flashes back to him jerking off in all of our coffees.
01:50:12
Speaker
That's protein coffee. Yeah, it was whole milk.
01:50:20
Speaker
Just joking. We're going to flash forward to me and driving a cab. Dude, this was fucking you.
01:50:30
Speaker
Oh my God, dude. If this wasn't you. I don't like the world now. I don't like the world now. I mean, before I always knew I was a son of a bitch, but now I'm the only son of a bitch I know.
01:50:45
Speaker
I swear to God, Alan, this was you the whole trip to fucking Living Dead Museum when we got into all the traffic. These motherfuckers. That's not really true because the whole time we were going to the Living Dead Museum, we were talking about us if we were in the fog.
01:51:05
Speaker
or the Well, yeah, when we hit that mist, yeah. But then, man, when we got time in the afternoon, we were driving through the fucking town, man. You're just like, these motherfuckers eat shit.
01:51:19
Speaker
If you've ever driven through Pittsburgh, it's terrible. Tell me ah I wasn't. It is the worst city. You weren't wrong. It is a nightmare. We stopped by at Tom Savini's house, you know. Yeah, you know, because you do, bro.
01:51:34
Speaker
We just stopped by at Tom Savini's house and we had to park like in the middle of the fucking road. Yeah. Remember, remember, and there were just people just hanging around like yeah, kind of away fuck there but I was like, we got to get back to the car because I'm not feeling okay about this.
01:51:55
Speaker
It's crazy. chance so and he was like I got these yahoos banging on my door again. don pay a couple of gay guys. Yeah, we went.
01:52:08
Speaker
so There's his motherfuckers. We went and found his house and he's notoriously crabby.
01:52:16
Speaker
We went and found his house and took pictures in front of it. And it says right on the front of it that it's got security cameras up and everything. So we were like, once we get over here to the museum, he's going to find us and be like, was you the fucking gay guys that was in front of my house? but We walked by him and shit and he like looked at us. And I was like, look, man, he's fucking he recognized us.
01:52:41
Speaker
side eyeing us yeah but he does that he does that he probably never saw us in his life he does that every he does that he was rolling his fucking he's cracking his knuckles and rolling his sleeves up these fucking gay guys get out of well we still love you man yeah we love you Tom Speaney you grumpy bastard we'll we'll bring you marshmallows next time we promise yeah We'll leave a... From Ohio. but He would definitely kill us if we put a marshmallow on his steps.
01:53:14
Speaker
Oh. He'd fucking... We'd see him at the mall and he'd just fucking ball it up in his fist and start punching us. We'd be at... I'm so honored, Mr. Savini. We'd just be walking casually and then all of a sudden Greg Nicotero's got us by our collars and he's lifting us up and taking us to him.
01:53:37
Speaker
pulling us by our ears. I got him, boss. Come with me. Come with me, boys. Yeah, I got him, boss. Are you responsible for this marshmallow?
01:53:53
Speaker
I've got like, i'm like i don't I've never seen that in my life, and I've got like a pocket of marshmallows.
01:54:04
Speaker
fucking stupid. We would never do that, Mr. Savini. No, we love you, Mr. Savini.
Light-hearted Deviation and Admiration
01:54:10
Speaker
Don't hate us.
01:54:12
Speaker
he Please, please. It was Kevin's idea.
01:54:21
Speaker
Run! Run! yeah I don't have to outrun him, Kevin. I just gotta outrun you.
01:54:31
Speaker
ah ah You would too. You'd fucking throw he throws shit down behind you so I'd fucking trip. I'd hit you in the knees and start running.
01:54:44
Speaker
Ball check me and run. yeah While you're confused, a five foot two shadow comes in.
01:54:58
Speaker
Are you the gay guy that was in front of my house? Is this your marshmallow? the shadow The shadow starts to engulf me and it only comes up to my chest. It only comes up to my chest.
01:55:13
Speaker
It's like that shot from the new Nosferatu movie where the shadow is just going over the city. got this five foot two. It only goes up to just below the mailbox.
01:55:27
Speaker
Fucking gay guy.
01:55:32
Speaker
but
01:55:38
Speaker
holy shit we completely fucking we're sorry Mr. Savini you've been you're amazing you're the best we're just having a go at you a little bit yeah we're having a go at you I mean we went to find your house we clearly love you yeah yeah that's Kevin's marshmallow though
01:56:08
Speaker
Oh, holy fuck, dude. and Okay. So, anyway. So, we go back to the underground lab ah where they're trying to come up with a cure because they have parades of all the people in comas because those are the acceptable losses.
01:56:29
Speaker
And did you know during the parade, if you listen to the music, it is a Muzak version of Happiness Pie? i Yeah, i did recognize that, so that's funny. Yeah, which is fucking funny as fuck.
01:56:45
Speaker
Tadness is a barnacle. fuck Yeah, that but um they have like their Batman lab now, underground, yeah with Patient 957 again, yeah yeah they give them their new pill that's supposed to cure happiness.
01:57:06
Speaker
Yeah. To bring everybody back. oh Well, it's funny because they they Chris, um well, anyway, um Patient 957 has the memory of the kid, you know. Yep.
01:57:24
Speaker
Which this is what's bringing around the very beginning of the movie. Right, right. With them the misery, allegedly, why his son is not happy with her.
01:57:35
Speaker
Possibly. Yeah, possibly. Possibly. but you gave her She gives her grandson a bunch of balloons that... wit Which I choose to believe that kid died. i know they said he came down because cause they say he comes down two days later.
01:57:53
Speaker
no way are you holding on to something for two days. Impossible. That kid's dead. Patient 957 is giving us a little bit of revisionist history here.
01:58:06
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. But... they They deem it a so ah success because when patient 957, Mrs. Hurticure, takes the pill, she starts crying, right?
01:58:21
Speaker
Yeah. but and chris Alice says it's a success, and Chris says a pretty good line. He says, we've only depressed one old lady.
01:58:33
Speaker
We've got a whole world to bum out. Ha ha ha ha ha.
01:58:39
Speaker
Yeah, dude. Incredible. Would've come around. Yeah. It's okay to not be okay. Right. It's okay not
Final Message on Happiness and Emotions
01:58:50
Speaker
to be okay. And, uh, uh, if every day's sunny day, what's sunny day?
01:58:55
Speaker
Yup. Now with a whole bunch of cloudy days, which is most of our lives, come on, give us a sunny day. I'd take this fucking pill in a minute. Or if you're Eric Draven, it can't rain all the time.
01:59:09
Speaker
The movie, the only way to be happy is to know that you won't be happy every single day. That's right.
01:59:24
Speaker
And then we're informed by the cabbie that patient... fortunately yeah Unfortunately. Go ahead. go her car Her grandson survives. Yep.
01:59:36
Speaker
Bullshit. That kid is dead. Revisionist history. Not in this world. Yeah. Well, that that was fucking... i I'm so fucking happy...
01:59:53
Speaker
that we put this on the fucking list because i forgot about it for so, so long and watching it again and like watching it with the eyes that I have now is just, it, it completely is a whole new movie and is even more incredible than the first time I ever saw it.
02:00:10
Speaker
Oh, it's one of those movies you should probably watch every so often, you know? Yeah. I would say, man, if you if you really want, like, a good combo, something that comedically would speak to you about the goings-on in the world, if you need a laugh, put this, and Idiocracy.
02:00:29
Speaker
Knows particular order. And you'll have the answer to everything you need going on in America. I feel like for real. So, or what we're, what, what's happening and what we're heading into.
02:00:42
Speaker
so this is, I love you, Kevin. Cause you called i you called you called it, you're a crazy, it, you're a crazy. Yeah, I know. It, you're a crazy.
02:00:53
Speaker
I love that. So it, you're a crazy. Idiocracy. Idiocracy. Not idiocracy. Idiocracy. Oh, my God. Stop it. and I'm going to pass out.
02:01:08
Speaker
I got a broom here, you know. Idiocracy, bro.
02:01:15
Speaker
Idiocracy. It's kind of harder to say it that way. I know. oh My brain works. Idiocracy. you added You added a brand new syllable. I sure did. My man.
02:01:28
Speaker
um Like I said, man, it's it's it's explaining everything that's going on in the world right now. I think I just like completed that. Hey, Kevin. Idiocracy.
02:01:39
Speaker
This one goes in your mouth. this Yeah, oh my god. Oh, I mean, wait. Wait, are you... one Wait, Kevin, there's that fag talk they were telling me about. That fucking scene, dude.
02:01:52
Speaker
Oh my God.
02:01:55
Speaker
Well, basically, it says, came back, it says you're tauted. It's all right. My wife's tauted. Watch this and Idiocracy. and It's pretty good. You're right. Watch this and Idiocracy.
02:02:09
Speaker
watch this and idiococracy That's a great fucking combo. You're right. Double feature. It is. it's It's a superb double feature. it's it's so Everything's so relatable.
02:02:22
Speaker
It'd make you an idiot. I didn't even look to see... Did you stream kids this movie?
02:02:33
Speaker
No, we were talking before, like i i don't I never owned it yet because I was trying to find it and the wild on VHS or whatever. yeah um ah But i just I just bought it off of Amazon, if that counts. Okay, well, I'm just trying to think of how I still want it on VHS. Well, I have it.
02:02:54
Speaker
I'm giving it to you. Yeah, you're ah you're blessing me with it. I'm blessing you with it. It's found me... I've got my OG copy that's in great condition. I pulled the cassette out.
02:03:06
Speaker
It looks fucking brand new. It's going to a good home because Kevin's a VHS enthusiast. Yeah, I'm a fucking nerd. i mean I'm an idiot.
02:03:17
Speaker
I live in the world of idiocracy. This idiot loves those slabs. Idiot. Yeah, them slabs, man. Keep them slabbing.
02:03:28
Speaker
Yeah, keep it slabbing. Keep them slamming. But yeah, this wasn't a horror movie, and it may not qualify as a cult movie outside of our friend group, but I would love to see someday this become a really true cult classic.
02:03:49
Speaker
But your do your.01% and check this thing out, because this movie is fucking wonderful. Absolutely, and tell your friends if they haven't seen it. And then make a whole new circle of friends that only know of this movie to carry it on, you know?
02:04:05
Speaker
Well, because that you know that could be the difference of maybe someday us getting a whole new movie from them, where we see them naked yet again. Yeah.
02:04:16
Speaker
Yeah, all their other stuff too, their entire catalog, if you've never watched any of the stuff they've done, watch everything. And they put out, and i still I should have looked it up before we did this, but that movie we were talking about, or that miniseries that they did, I forgot the name of it, but um that's awesome.
02:04:39
Speaker
and then I it written down. Give me just a second. Yeah, can't remember. I dropped all there. Then we have the new... yeah Death Comes to Town. That's right, yes.
02:04:51
Speaker
it's scott It's amazing. um Yeah, there there they were misunderstood, and I think, ahead of their time in the 90s, but I think a lot of people would love this show now.
02:05:04
Speaker
Absolutely. They totally would. and that It's time. Don't watch the um clips of the I Crush Your Head. That's not what the show is about. That's just something that was silly and quotable. If you want to watch any clips, watch the Chicken Lady.
02:05:19
Speaker
Well, watch the fucking WALL-E. Just get a WALL-E compilation. Yeah, oh wall yeah absolutely, dude. Oh my god. You'll be like, yep, I'm watching it.
02:05:31
Speaker
I had to take the biggest pee in the world.
02:05:37
Speaker
Yeah, definitely highly recommend. um This is definitely going into mass rotation for me, so... And if you'd like to suggest anything, email us ah deadnotes podcast at at gmail.com.
02:05:54
Speaker
Yep. And I would like to take two seconds to dedicate this episode to my lovely boy, Frosty. Yeah, buddy.
02:06:05
Speaker
And that'll be it. So, bye!
02:06:33
Speaker
Narzinski!
02:06:35
Speaker
Yes, sir. There are enemy over by the wall. Do you see them?
02:06:42
Speaker
Got him. Okay, Wally. You're my best man. Now, here's the plan. You go over there and fuck them. We'll stay here and masturbate. Yes, sir. Go!
02:06:53
Speaker
Now, there goes a man.