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Darkman 1990

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Today we’re peeling back the scorched layers of one of the strangest, most genre-bending entries in early '90s horror: Darkman (1990), directed by none other than Sam Raimi.

Before Raimi had Spider-Man swinging through New York, he gave us Peyton Westlake—a brilliant scientist turned disfigured vigilante, played with tragic fury by Liam Neeson. Burned alive, left for dead, and reborn through experimental science, Westlake becomes the titular Darkman: a creature of rage, synthetic skin, and unstable identity. It’s part Frankenstein, part Phantom of the Opera, and all Raimi chaos.

Transcript

Introduction and Film Selection

00:00:24
Speaker
Hello, welcome to Dead Notes, a horror and cult film podcast. I am Kevin, and with me is the man that is everywhere but nowhere. He's everyone but no one.
00:00:36
Speaker
But you can call him Alan.
00:00:42
Speaker
Yeah, that. And we're talking about Darkman. Darkman. From from nineteen ninety s Yeah, they should have shot this movie in Bastion instead of New York.
00:00:55
Speaker
Bastion. Back to car at Harvard Yard. I'm Darkman.
00:01:01
Speaker
This is our first Sam Raimi movie. the one maya One of probably both of ours, I'm sure. Yeah, I love this movie. Favorite directors. i mean he's definite Absolutely.

Comparing Raimi's Films

00:01:15
Speaker
He's definitely in the Mount Rushmore Yeah, and of course of course we would cover one of the more obscure of his movies instead of going straight to the throat with like Evil Dead. Yeah, or Evil Dead 2. Yeah, I figure when we cover it that's what we'll probably cover first is like Evil Dead 2 just like we did Texas Chainsaw. Yeah.
00:01:38
Speaker
Although, to be fair, I think Darkman was more successful than Evil Dead and Evil Dead 2. Not cult status successful, but box office.
00:01:49
Speaker
abby he had already Yeah, but he had already been out for a second, and I think Army of Darkness was right before this as well. so And that one had more notoriety.

Personal Anecdotes on Raimi's Works

00:02:00
Speaker
Army of Darkness was like 96 or something, I think.
00:02:04
Speaker
No way. Am I wrong? Yeah, you're right. You're right. You're right. Never mind. Yeah, because I remember... This is 1990, right? Okay, so... Yeah, Army of Darkness came out same year as Groundhog Day because I remember I had to buy ticket to Groundhog Day. Oh, This came out Army of Darkness. You're right. It came out 92. okay.
00:02:25
Speaker
so okay yeah Well, around the same era. so he was start This movie must have been what brought him to make Army of Darkness like such ah such more of a hit than what it probably would have been.
00:02:39
Speaker
but Yeah, well... Yeah, I remember sitting around with the VHS queued up waiting for the Army of Darkness trailer to come on because it was before YouTube and everything. And I had to buy me and Werewolf Jim had to buy a ticket to see Groundhog Day because they fucking carded us to see this movie.
00:03:02
Speaker
Oh, that's fucking funny. To see Army of Darkness, not Darkman. So yeah i bought a to I supported Groundhog Day to sneak into the theater to see Army of Darkness.
00:03:17
Speaker
Yeah, but Groundhog Day is still pretty sweet. Yeah, it's good. but And when I first saw Army of Darkness, I was a little confused. yeah i love it I love it now, but it was way different from Evil Dead and Evil Dead 2.
00:03:33
Speaker
Yeah, it definitely was. um It was one of the first ah movies my dad took us out and rented um after he after he split. ah And he had us for the weekend, you know? It was, like, one of the first ones that we weren't allowed to really watch.
00:03:49
Speaker
And Army of Darkness is pretty tame for the most part, you know? Not like Evil Dead. So I think that was, like, his, like, tester movie. You know what I'm saying? Like, okay, they're good.
00:04:00
Speaker
And then after that, it was just, like, Let's go. let's Let's watch all this shit. He's like, there's this new movie coming out called Army of Darkness. Yeah, it had just come out too, man. Army of Darkness from the director of Dak Man.
00:04:15
Speaker
yeah yeah he was like he did he was like, this guy, ah this is the part of like the Evil Deads or whatever. I remember that because i remember when Evil Deads first came out on HBO, we weren't allowed to go out there because we were super young. We weren't allowed to go out there and watch it with him and like my uncle and everybody.
00:04:36
Speaker
So we were like, me and my brother, my brother was super little. we were like peeking in through the... ah like the doorway or whatever, trying to sneak glimpses of it.

Sequels and Casting Choices

00:04:50
Speaker
You were like, Papa, is that the movie where the superheroes retarded? no no, it was Evil Dead that was playing. It wasn't Darkman. No, it was Evil Dead.
00:05:02
Speaker
why Why do you assume I was talking about
00:05:12
Speaker
i I bit the bullet and watched Darkman 2 and 3. And all these years, I've i've kept from kept myself from watching it for good reasons.
00:05:24
Speaker
Right. But when I first turned it on, I thought Billy Zane was playing Darkman. I was like, what the fuck is this shit? And i had to look it I had to look it up, but it's Arnold Vosloo, I think that's how you say his name, the guy that played the mummy.
00:05:42
Speaker
Okay, okay. and then In the newer mummy movies, I guess. Yes, yeah. And hes he seems like a ah fine person, you know, whatever, but man, he is not right for Darkman because his voice, when... um you know Liam Neeson, he does things like, take the fucking elephant! yeah
00:06:08
Speaker
You're not getting any of that from Boslu, because there's a scene, I think it might be at the beginning of part two, where he saves a guy, which we were talking about whether or not this is a superhero movie, because it's really a revenge story that has like ah superhero... ah ah kind of theme. It's dressed up like a superhero movie. but arowll It's like The Crow. I mean, it's the principle.
00:06:35
Speaker
Yeah, I mean, basically, ah Peyton couldn't give a fuck about random citizens in the first movie anyway.

Defining 'Darkman': Superhero or Revenge Story?

00:06:44
Speaker
But um in the second movie, he is playing like a Batman character. And it's so fucking funny because um there's a scene early on where he saves a guy and they do like the Batman thing because he goes, who are you?
00:07:00
Speaker
and he goes, I'm a goddamn concerned citizen.
00:07:07
Speaker
I was like, he doesn't say goddamn, but he does go, I'm a concerned citizen.
00:07:15
Speaker
I was like, okay, this movie's fucking... They completely missed the mark. one hundred percent 100%. You need to you need to like, ah play that, sample that, and play that in this episode.
00:07:27
Speaker
God. I'm a god damn concerned citizen. What the hell are you?! A concerned citizen. Thanks for the donation.
00:07:42
Speaker
It's like Darkman turned into Honky Cracker Man. Yeah.
00:07:49
Speaker
Hey there. Honky Cracker Man.
00:07:53
Speaker
Cracker Man. Honky Cracker Man.
00:07:58
Speaker
He should be one of our mascots. ah Yeah, and you know what doesn't help the whole, like, I mean, nobody argues that it's not a superhero movie. I'm just being, I'm just nitpicking here.
00:08:12
Speaker
But another reason that it kind of, you know, you can't help but call it a superhero movie is because Danny Elfman does the fucking score for it. Yeah. Oh, it's very triumphant.
00:08:24
Speaker
Yeah, basically makes it sound like a Batman movie. Mm-hmm. Oh, it's got that feel all over. It's written. just I mean, it's it's a comic. you know Oh, yeah. Yeah, a comic book movie is more suited. It's not really a superhero. More of a comic book movie. I still think that like he is, though. That's fine. that's fine and um He's got superhuman powers. he's got No, he doesn't. He's got the strength of dead men.
00:08:55
Speaker
Yeah, I was going to say, in part three, ah they say, I messaged Kevin about this too because I couldn't fucking believe they said it, but they say that Darkman has a strength of ten men.

Speculating on Raimi's Future Projects

00:09:10
Speaker
So, you know, the executives were like, ah yeah you know, at the meeting, the executives were like, so the superheroes retarded, huh? Genius. Yeah.
00:09:25
Speaker
They're like, no, he's just got the strength of 10 men. He's not. No, we never said that. And he's like, yeah, that's. Yeah, exactly. He's retarded. And and imagine their delight in the in the first movie when they cast Larry Drake as the antagonist.
00:09:44
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. the the ah The executives were like. Oh my God. We're doing retard versus retard. You're going to, you're going to take two retarded people and fight them in this movie.
00:09:58
Speaker
he goes, he is. What is he strong too?
00:10:03
Speaker
We already know that he's strong. That's so bad. I'm sorry.
00:10:15
Speaker
Oh, shit, yeah. That's where we're at. Yeah, and it doesn't help that Darkman is perched between two gargoyles on the top of a building a few times in the movie, too. Absolutely.
00:10:27
Speaker
I think if they do another Spawn movie, that they need to put it in the hands of Raimi and have him just fucking go to go to fucking town on it. Yeah, that'd be cool.
00:10:39
Speaker
I would kind of like to see Raimi do a Blob movie. Yeah, that would be fun, too. Yeah, the blob or the stuff. I'd like to see a movie where they fight the blob and the stuff.
00:10:51
Speaker
Who would you have? I think they'd cancel each other out. Well, the stuff how the stuff can mind control people, so I'd give the edge to the stuff.
00:11:05
Speaker
Yeah, but what happens once the blob absorbs all the people that the stuff is mind controlled? Good question, but what if the... This is something. Get on this right now, Sam Raimi.
00:11:17
Speaker
Make us a blob versus the stuff movie. And if any of you have ah any opinions on who would win that battle, please email us.

Humorous Tangents and Urban Legends

00:11:30
Speaker
Yeah, it's going to be... a What's our email again? Deadnotespodcast at gmail.com?
00:11:37
Speaker
Yeah, that would be it. is that Okay, cool.
00:11:42
Speaker
Oh, I used to always say just deadnotes.gmail.com. I'm just a goddamn concerned citizen. I wonder if this would be like, if, you know, this skin that he's making, if Ed Gein had gotten a hold of this technology, imagine how laid out his apartment would be.
00:12:06
Speaker
How do we know that's not what he was trying to do to begin with?
00:12:12
Speaker
I mean, all right he wasn't already doing that. It was just, it was old technology, right? I mean, yeah, he was, he hadn't perfected the method. How do we know that fucking, how do we know that fucking Durant's like long lost, you know, fucking, you know, like lineage didn't come in and fucking take his shit over, you know, maybe he was making shit.
00:12:37
Speaker
well i mean hey to be To be fair, i mean he didn't he didn't like yeah he didn't move the people until he probably had to, right? So it was all for science.
00:12:49
Speaker
All for science. Well, it was Peyton that was doing the the skin reproduction thingy. Well, how do we know he didn't get it from Gein, though? like How do we know that... like Stole it Stole his idea. He it.
00:13:03
Speaker
That by there done stole my idea. Yeah. Yeah. It was like distant well lineage. Well, they always come out every year and debunk a lot of the stories that we've heard about Ed Gein, about how his house had all these like skin lamps and shit. yeah you know One of the few intact rumors that they still say actually happened was his box of vaginas.
00:13:31
Speaker
which i imagine at some point they're going to debunk that, but they said that he had one of them painted gold. Remember that? Yeah. Yeah. No, he had it mounted there. He had, there was actually one of them that was, it's mounted. Yeah. He's like, guess which one, ah guess which one of them pussies there's my favorite.
00:13:51
Speaker
This one, this one is the gold one That big one in the back there, that's a pussy off a moose. Yeah.
00:14:03
Speaker
Well, you know, maybe they were, well, maybe they weren't even that though. Maybe, maybe they're, they were awards. So maybe he had one painted silver and he had one bronze. So Hank, he was getting ready to like hand them out to people in town.
00:14:16
Speaker
I would like to thank the Academy. there He was rewarding himself. of golden The golden pussy award.
00:14:26
Speaker
He was putting on a whole award show in his living room and just talking to himself. I love your mama.
00:14:37
Speaker
ah like i would like to congratulate myself for such wonderful collection of vaginators. Thanks for this. yeah Thanks for this. i got I felt this whole box full of Virginias. Virginias.
00:14:59
Speaker
what what i what ones i stole from the graveyard i'm sorry i'm derailing the fuck out of us here oh the award ceremony shit though all right ah the ed gein awards that like you get you get one golden but
00:15:21
Speaker
Peyton Westlake, you get one golden pussy for your work. I i would like to dominate you.
00:15:34
Speaker
Mr. Durant, you got silver. Work a little harder next year. yeah queer.
00:15:45
Speaker
um ba Oh, man. ah They need to remake ah Forrest Gump with ah Ed Gein as Forrest Gump. you got ah Let's let's ah let's get out get out of that. I'm going to end up going on forever. yeah so we get We can go... hey Send your ideas. Email us.
00:16:11
Speaker
yeah We got some here.
00:16:15
Speaker
I would like to thank the Academy. We could do, uh, we could do like, what was I talking about? Dark man versus doll man versus the fucking demonic toys. Yeah.
00:16:28
Speaker
Is that a real thing? I didn't look it up yet. No, no. Is it doll man versus demonic toys? Is that what it is? Yeah. Yeah. It's demonic toys versus doll man. I thought for a minute, I was like, versus the stuff versus the blob.
00:16:41
Speaker
Yeah, for a minute I was like, there's no way Full Moon got Darkman rights. And yeah I looked it up because I was like, that would be fucking sweet, though. Maybe it was just what was imprinted in my head. I always thought, oh, Darkman, you know, whatever, versus, you know, then I, yeah.
00:16:59
Speaker
You're like, that being that'd be fucking sweet. Fucking dolls versus a retarded man. Yeah. Oh.
00:17:11
Speaker
Oh, God. Sorry. I'm going straight to hell. Do not, Pasco.
00:17:19
Speaker
Let's get into this. Let's unpack this. Yeah, so the movie starts with ah their little gang meeting between Durant and Eddie Black. Robert Durant and Eddie Black at some fucking warehouse.
00:17:33
Speaker
Whatever. but That's where you always meet up and at like these gangster meetups and shit. You got to. Yeah, I need to watch this again because um apparently um Scott Spiegel is credited as playing one of the dopps dock workers and for the OCD in me needs to find him.
00:17:54
Speaker
Okay. Like that mysterious car in Day of the Dead? Yeah, well ah well that car is real. I found that. and I even circled it on the fucking picture I sent you, Kevin.
00:18:12
Speaker
Kevin's just like, i will choose. I reject your reality and substitute my own. These delusions. So he calls Eddie black calls Robert Durant's group of fellas.

Detailed Scene Analysis

00:18:27
Speaker
Dinks. Is that a slur? Is that something that Sam Raimi made up? Is that a real slur? thing i don't. I've never heard. The only time I've ever heard anything close to that was this band called Dink that came out in like, I don't know, maybe like 93, 94 or some shit. And it's, I don't know. That's all I remember.
00:18:51
Speaker
I gotta look up what a Shrinky Dink is because that's probably what it means. Shrinky Dink, it was one of those those fucking plastic things you used to paint and then you'd put them in the oven and then they'd shrink up, but the picture would be all detailed.
00:19:07
Speaker
Well, in 2025, Dinks stands for ah these people that brag about having double income and no kids.
00:19:20
Speaker
Oh, I've never even heard anything close to that. I don't know anything about that shit either, but you know. but But Danny Hicks plays Skip, who is the fellow with a machine gun for a leg, which yeah isnn't really which basically means that Danny Hicks plays in a few scenes where he's just hopping the whole time.
00:19:42
Speaker
Yeah, it's awesome too. I like that his name is Skip too. ah Yeah. He's got one leg. Ted Ramey, yeah, and the guy um that smiles all the time is Smiley. you know yeah There's a theme here, but for some reason, Ted Ramey is just Rick.
00:20:00
Speaker
Theodore. and This is where we first meet ah Robert Durant. Yep. Benny. um Benny from Alabama.
00:20:13
Speaker
Hello, Eddie. God will provide. Look. look the retarded
00:20:29
Speaker
Penny. Don't get me going. i will Hi, Eddie. Hello, Eddie. That's terrible. I'm sorry. Or we could do him as Dr. Giggles. I can't even do it.
00:20:46
Speaker
I can't. even do it i right But man, he plays a fucking... Yeah, whatever. Yeah, like he plays a good, um surprisingly good crime boss, I suppose.
00:21:03
Speaker
He does, man. he's I don't know. I mean, it's obviously he's ah he's typecasted for a lot of shit. But um he does his characters very well. Everyone he's doing, he's just he's awesome.
00:21:16
Speaker
wow like He's a cold motherfucker in this, man. He's cold as fuck in this. Yeah. yeah And he's not like, a yeah, see? you yeah you know he's He's like fucking all business the whole time. He never... yeah I don't think you see him get upset until the end of the movie.
00:21:34
Speaker
No, you don't really see him. And even then, it's not until he's getting ready to really meet his demise. He keeps his cool, man. What? He dies? Oh, spoiler.
00:21:48
Speaker
no it's not a spoiler because part two is called The Return of Robert Durant or some shit like that. Yeah. Which is fucking stupid. and But he that cigar trimmer thingy that he has when I was a kid, I was like, that is fucking awesome. And he said that he hesitated to take this role because he didn't want kids copying that.
00:22:10
Speaker
you know yeah and little And little me was like, that would be sweet. ah food But obviously I never did it Those fucking things, like, after this movie, I got, like, weirded out by them when I was younger, we used to have to go to the fucking bowling alley on Friday nights, and there was this guy that smoked cigars on my dad's team or whatever, and he had one of those.
00:22:37
Speaker
And every time he fucking snipped his fucking cigar, it, like, made me, like, cringe. Yeah. that What Kevin's not telling you is that his history with this thing is that when he was slightly younger, he slid his little mushroom tip through there.
00:22:53
Speaker
and who on And was tempting fate. Maybe i maybe ah I'm having visions of when I was a baby and they circumcised Maybe Durant circumcised me.
00:23:05
Speaker
that's what they maybe it was maybe durant circumcised me
00:23:10
Speaker
So, yeah, so they, you know, he cuts off all the fucking, uh, all of Eddie Black's fingers. Uh, apparently we, so we see about two of them, but then it cuts to the title card and, uh, which we already got a little taste of it earlier, but then we go straight into Peyton, Peyton Westlake's lab where we see them, uh, synthesizing Yaka Tito's nose.
00:23:36
Speaker
Can you say that three times fast? It's a hard one, but yeah, Yacotitos.
00:23:43
Speaker
Yeah. Yacotito. he's have He's half Asian, half Mexican. Shut the fuck up.
00:23:53
Speaker
They were like, what are we going to name somebody half Asian, half Mexican? We're going to call him Yacotito. Jesus Christ.
00:24:11
Speaker
Oh my fucking God.
00:24:18
Speaker
So yes what i want what I want to know about this skin destabilizing, so they say, is it light, just light, or UV light that causes this?
00:24:33
Speaker
Because... ah Because um ah for a movie called Darkman, is fucking clueless. Every time he makes a mask, he goes out in the daytime. Well, yeah.
00:24:47
Speaker
That's the whole thing, right? he's He's trying to find the recipe to make it make it strong through the sun. I understand that, but if he's trying to, ah dan you know, his words, not mine, if he's trying to dance with Julie,
00:25:07
Speaker
ah maybe take her out at night, not in the daytime. Yeah, but he doesn't want her to think that he's a vampire. guess.
00:25:18
Speaker
What are you trying to say, man? Ha! I guess ah if he took the rest of his clothes off, though, she would see that he burnt his fucking dick right off.
00:25:29
Speaker
you know i mean, we don't know what the extent of the damage here is. I mean, I would think if he is going to go through all that trouble that he would completely synthesize a complete body for himself. We could see that he could do limbs and everything, and I mean, you know.
00:25:45
Speaker
He does hands and face, and somehow it makes him shorter and fatter, too, but... they are Right? Well, it's what he's like building, yeah. yeah His 3D printer.
00:26:00
Speaker
ah Yeah, but I mean, I'm just saying, you know, he never got he he always makes the mask. I suppose he needs to perfect it before he goes through the trouble of synthesizing an entire skin suit.
00:26:12
Speaker
Yeah. Because the head took like five days or something like that. Yeah. Yeah, he had to really fucking do his shit.
00:26:23
Speaker
But of course, the skin melts, you know, they and after 99 minutes it was, I think. Yeah, it starts to disintegrate. yeah and So why wouldn't you use like, I know it's gotta be like real, like synthetic and like real as possible, but you know, normal latex masks, if they're out in the sun for like years or if they're just exposed for years, they disintegrate as well. But you know, they get fragile and start flaking and stuff.
00:26:52
Speaker
Um, don't know, maybe mix in some of that.
00:26:58
Speaker
Just, just mix some fucking, uh, sunscreen in with it. Yeah. Like, that was the answer all along. It's the SPF 100, yeah. Like, some of that. Squirt a little in there.
00:27:11
Speaker
and Thanks, Kevin. You figured it out. Alright, that's the end of this movie. That's the end of Darkman. Kevin squirted a little bit of sunblock in it.
00:27:23
Speaker
I busted a little bit of s SPF in his face, and it was over. SPF bukkake.
00:27:32
Speaker
Jesus says Christ. Ah, take the elephant.
00:27:38
Speaker
ah Yeah, yeah making of speaking of taking the elephant. So we got Julie on the couch. With ah Peyton looking at old slides. And then sexy time.
00:27:51
Speaker
Well, that's when... What a hero. she does That's when he says, let's dance. Oh, yeah. When he's about to fuck her, he says, let's dance. Well, yeah, he's taking her in.
00:28:03
Speaker
And then he goes, take the fucking elephant. it It cuts to later, and you just see, boom, boom, boom. It's like... fuck i off You see all the explosions going off behind him when he's starting to freak out.
00:28:17
Speaker
yeah Like those were always there. Like that was nothing new. and the most important And the most important scene in the movie, obviously, is him leaving the coffee stain on the Bellisarius memorandum.
00:28:30
Speaker
Mm-hmm. The next morning. Yeah, right? Yeah. that's all That's the linchpin of the movie. It's like, that this is what sets everything off. I mean, honestly, this whole movie is Julie's fucking fault, because...
00:28:48
Speaker
I know that Louie and them are up to no good. Yeah. but everything but But everything that happens to Peyton is because he's with Julie.
00:29:01
Speaker
Right. Which makes it worse because she's kind of, I don't know. i don't know. She kind of rejects him a few times in this movie. Yeah. Yeah, absolutely.
00:29:11
Speaker
She's just like on her own fucking trip. bit a Yeah. But, and but, you know, she says she's going to confront Strack about the fucking um waterfront development project. You know, they're bribing people, which I think as far as crimes go, ah i mean, whatever.
00:29:37
Speaker
It doesn't seem, you know, it seems like a not a huge reason to do what they did, but I don't know. Yeah. What the fuck do I know? i don't I don't own nothing but an old house.
00:29:52
Speaker
I ain't no business owner. i don't know what they have to go through.
00:29:58
Speaker
I think they have the perfect fucking ah antagonist. Louis? Louis? Yeah. Yeah. he's ah He's a real piece of shit. He's fucking crazy.
00:30:11
Speaker
yeah come on yeah
00:30:18
Speaker
you can't he's like i you know am i the only one that watched this scene and when he shows julie the model of his plans for the city that ah to me i was like the fucking doozers from fraggle rock built that shit yeah It was all crystal clear. Yeah, yeah he tries the briber, then he tries... The fucking dozers.
00:30:44
Speaker
The dozers, man. but oh my god, I can't believe you brought that up. Jesus Christ. you bring up, if you Google Doozers construction, it will bring up a model that looks like what he just showed her.
00:30:59
Speaker
Dude, that's so fucking funny. Look at this right here, bitch. I guy i was i was inspired by watching the fucking Fraggle Rock show. So he gets in there with his little Fraggle Rock figurines and starts playing and shit. it says It's his little Doozer playset. It's his playset.
00:31:20
Speaker
I call this high steel. can't. Dropping me. He's got like a little dooter hanging upside down. Yeah. I can't.
00:31:35
Speaker
There's a fucking, there's a fraggle holding him over the fucking top the head. yeah the kind and
00:31:46
Speaker
can't. You can't live with yourself. What are you gonna do, Doc, man? You reach out. You fraggle.
00:32:00
Speaker
Oh, man. Holy shit. my fucking God, dude.
00:32:08
Speaker
Oh.
00:32:11
Speaker
But back to Peyton's lab. Yes. You know, this is when the movie really starts. Really, really starts, you know. Because we got a little ah little shot at the beginning with the warehouse, but ah this is where Yaka Tito Peyton are... Yep.
00:32:33
Speaker
This is where they find out that the cells are photosensitive. That's what it is. they They just can't be so shy. Yeah.
00:32:44
Speaker
They're like, don't take a picture of
00:32:50
Speaker
Take the fucking elephant! and and Don't take any pictures. Yeah, i don't take any fucking pictures. yeah and And

Darkman's Transformation and Emotional Turmoil

00:32:57
Speaker
you'll be Yeah, you'll be good. You'll be fine. Yeah, and when he goes to answer the phone, it's like, ah is it Polly that grabs his hand?
00:33:07
Speaker
it Either way, it's like the guy was clearly standing right there. He's like, oh, oh, Jesus. they are They all somehow got into the room ah without them noticing. Oh, yeah. yeah Walked right in. As they cut the power off, yeah.
00:33:23
Speaker
Yeah, they didn't fuck around with that part either. like they They all just rolled right the fuck up in there. Like, what's up? Oh, yeah. Louis Sennett. ah Yeah, when this movie came out, it's like it's a comedy horror drama, whatever, but ah this scene was cold-blooded.
00:33:42
Speaker
Yeah, this scene's fucked, man. They start smashing up the fucking place and threatening Peyton and Yaka Tito. gets his head in a Kroger bag or some shit.
00:33:55
Speaker
yeah Oh, yeah. Saran wrap something. Yeah, they just start fucking everybody up, man. It keeps asking for the Bellasaurus.
00:34:06
Speaker
Is it Bellasaurus or Bellasarius? Bellasarius. Bellasarius. The Bellasaurus memorandum.
00:34:16
Speaker
oh I'm a dinosaur with big belly. like to drink beer. It's a fucking dinosaur with a beer. I thought they were fucking making masks and shit.
00:34:30
Speaker
kevin just created Kevin just invented a new dinosaur. I'm the beer drinking Bellysaurus. Bellysaurus. the Belisarius. I'm thinking like, yeah.
00:34:44
Speaker
He was the guy. You stopped at memorandum. You were like, I'm not even gonna fucking try that one. Memorandum. Hey! You got it! I got it. I could say that one. Yeah.
00:34:57
Speaker
Belisaurus. Belisaurus. Belisarius. Who the fuck comes up with those names, man? what the fuck's a Bellisarius? It's probably something from fucking Three Stooges.
00:35:10
Speaker
Yeah, might be. Peyton doesn't know what the fuck he's talking about, so Pauly starts smashing his head through the glass on the cabinets. That's what they'd be. They'd be like, where's the Bellisarius? was like, we're not working on Bellisauruses!
00:35:26
Speaker
ah We're cloning ears and noses, not dinosaurs.
00:35:31
Speaker
and Not dinosaurs. Not dinosaurs.
00:35:39
Speaker
ah oh skip me Old Skippy put a bag over Yacotito's head. I love the way when ah when fucking um when when he's talking to Peyton, when Durant is talking to Peyton and he mentions Yacotito, his houseboy's predicament, I love the way he like shoves him in the frame just for a second. Should your houseboy's predicament not jog your memory, you may bid him Godspeed.
00:36:08
Speaker
Oh. He's the lab assistant. For God's sakes, let him breathe. i heard the doctor. Ventilate
00:36:23
Speaker
For whatever reason, that little action is so Sam Raimi. I don't know what it Absolutely. There's so much of that in this, dude. Oh, yeah. it' so It's just fucking, it's so great. Like every little thing. And ah and um Durant is just calm and cool as he usually is, not even raising his voice. Just very matter of fact.
00:36:50
Speaker
He's just like, cool. He's just chill through this entire thing, man.
00:36:55
Speaker
Yeah, they fucking burn his hands up and then dunk his head in a chemical, which same their hands seem to be impervious to. Well, yeah.
00:37:08
Speaker
They're not photosensitive. It's a movie, man. They don't give a shit about being in front of the camera. Well, his face gets all fucked up from being dunked in that chemical, but they're but they're using their bare hands and none of them have any injuries.
00:37:24
Speaker
Just saying. Oh, we forgot about what Ted Raimi coming in and fucking shoots. ah Ventilates. Yeah. Ventilates. Yes. Ventilates. Yaka Tito.
00:37:37
Speaker
Yeah. ventilate him. baly fucking And Skip is standing... When Rick holds the gun up to Yacotito's head, Skip is on the other side. oh He's like, keep holding his head back a little bit, but I'd be like, you know, maybe we should rethink our positioning here.
00:37:57
Speaker
You don't give a shit. Don't blow his fucking brains all over my face. Yeah.
00:38:05
Speaker
I'll have to wash my fucking face off before we leave. I can't get on the... can They won't let me in a limousine with a face covered in Yacotito brains.
00:38:17
Speaker
ah Face covered in Yacotitos. Yacotitos. That's some kind of Asian-Mexican cuisine.
00:38:28
Speaker
Come on down to Yacatitos!
00:38:34
Speaker
We make burritos with rice. ah Except that's the twist is it's Asian rice. <unk> Not Mexican. They just make burritos with some plain ass rice. Shut up.
00:38:49
Speaker
Yeah. If you like your rice to not taste like anything, some plain ass white rice, come on down to Yonkajitos.
00:39:02
Speaker
So they they find the Bellasaurus. Bingo. The bingo. The bingo.
00:39:10
Speaker
Yeah, so yeah i find out what ah we they start dunking Peyton's head in the tank. and he's just God, that scene looks so fucking brutal, too. he's just like and looks Everything looks so agonizing in this. you know You feel it.
00:39:26
Speaker
um Much like you know his cigar snippers. you know it's like It's brutal. It's pretty fucking awesome, though. yeah As a young, soft-brained child, this scene was fucking brutal.
00:39:39
Speaker
Yeah, and it's going by so fucking fast, too. All the action in this is so fast, which is a trademark of his anyway, you know? Yeah, he... ah And the the way he rigs up the lab to explode, I'm like, how the fuck good a aim is he that he set the lighter out?
00:39:58
Speaker
ah he They use the little dippy bird Yeah, that shit is awesome, though. Yeah. It's fucking awesome, but he nailed it, man. He's fucking dead center target.
00:40:10
Speaker
Bullseye. It's probably just what he sits at home and does. It's like one of his little and little tricks that people do, you know? Yeah, yeah yeah except I don't know that he has, like, he does he have a dippy bird at home?
00:40:25
Speaker
I mean, he might have a cabinet full of dippy birds for all we do.

Hospital Scenes and Filmmaking Style

00:40:30
Speaker
Robert says, bring me the bring me that Asian boy's fingers. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, yeah, dude. I guess he didn't want Peyton's because Peyton's hands were all fucked up.
00:40:43
Speaker
Well, yeah, we learn what he does with these fingers later on, too. so Yeah, he puts them in his ass like fucking on a um poultry guy's he He practices, like, manicuring and shit and doing, like, them fucking, like, extended fingernails with the jewels in them and shit.
00:41:06
Speaker
And Julie arrives in a cab just time. Bedazzled nails. Yeah, a bedazzled. he That's what he does. He saves all the fingers so he can bedazzle them.
00:41:20
Speaker
made this one look like... I don't know. Whoops.
00:41:25
Speaker
This one looks like Patrick from SpongeBob.
00:41:35
Speaker
name's Patrick and SpongeBob's my best friend. I try on all his clothes when he's a sleeping bitch.
00:42:02
Speaker
care ah did you Pull that out. SpongeBob. Yeah. Well, you don't want to do grown up to watch SpongeBob.
00:42:13
Speaker
Fuck no, bro. I do i know some SpongeBob, man.
00:42:20
Speaker
Oh, my God.
00:42:26
Speaker
Oh. We're in the darkest time of a movie. We could bring up fucking...
00:42:34
Speaker
Well, we're about to see the... You know, this why this is a superhero movie, because we're about to see Peyton fly. yeah piece Yeah. We definitely see him fly.
00:42:48
Speaker
Because Julie arrives in a cab just in time to see the lab explode, and Peyton's... Peyton is in there? Yeah, well, kind of right when she pulls up, the ego's flying out the fucking window on fire. And she's standing right in front of the place, and she doesn't hear him going through the air like...
00:43:10
Speaker
there he He's screaming like... like ah Yeah. yeah know well yeah Yeah, figures, right?
00:43:22
Speaker
Yeah. She's like, I didn't hear nothing. Yeah. Oh my god! Selective hearing. my god!
00:43:33
Speaker
but I like the transition to her standing in front of there to the cemetery. It kind of reminds me. It's kind of like a Beetlejuice thing. Then they do that in Beetlejuice. Yeah.
00:43:44
Speaker
Something similar. pretty so Pretty similar. But it's it's always remind it's such a, um it's definitely like ah like you're turning which is fine the page to a chapter. You know, I think it's really cool because they kind of, it brings you more into that comic book feel too, you know. Yeah.
00:44:01
Speaker
Way to go, Sam. We love you, buddy. Yeah, yeah Sam's the man. Sam's the man. And yeah, I think it was something that was in Beetlejuice, but all these directors take from each other. You know how many people have copied Sam Raimi over the years?
00:44:20
Speaker
It's ridiculous. Oh, yeah. well I mean, everybody does. i mean, it's what it is. Everybody does it to everybody. That's how we get evolution, right? so yeah It's sweet. It's awesome that he's able to leave a mark enough to be noticed yeah by people to say, i fucking love that style, you know, and you always know.
00:44:40
Speaker
Yeah, I think ah one of the Sam Raimi trademarks is like the long traveling shots where they they like ah They even do it in the Coen brothers um do it in Raising Arizona where they take like where they take like a camera and mount it to a board and then they have two people carrying it and passing it through things like yeah that's how they get those shots where they go through cars and shit where you wouldn't you know. Yeah.
00:45:06
Speaker
That's just awesome like when they go over cars and shit theyre like they do it in Raising Arizona when they're zooming in on the the what's the fucking The Randall Tex Cobb guy.
00:45:19
Speaker
Yeah, so it cuts to Peyton being worked on at the hospital as a John Doe. And I think he's homeless, even though everybody knows about the lab explosion.
00:45:32
Speaker
Like, they never even tried to put that together. Well, I mean, it's... What do their homeless people look like there? Yeah.
00:45:43
Speaker
Must be very sexy. Yeah, it's fucking crazy. Yeah, they severed the nerves so he doesn't feel any pain.
00:45:56
Speaker
Little Easter egg here. This is the fucking American Werewolf in London scene. Because the nurse is Jenny Agater from American Werewolf in London. Holy shit. and but You're right.
00:46:10
Speaker
And one of the fucking ah ah students or whatever, the doc the people following around with masks on is John Landis. No shit. Yeah. That's fucking fun. And Ivan Ramey. Oh, yeah. Ivan Ramey's there, too. So you got ah you got Jenny Agater, John Landis, and Ivan Ramey are all playing little doctors in this part.
00:46:34
Speaker
That's fucking cool, man. Yeah, it's like their little American Werewolf in London nod. Yeah. wait That's a good way to do it, man. yeah That's funny. Yeah, i don't I have no idea what their relationship is. but ah you know when i When I saw this scene, I was like, I know her from somewhere.
00:46:51
Speaker
was like yeah and ah Sure enough, um John Landis is in the credits too. and If you watch the scene, you'll see him. It'll be blatantly obvious. it just has a He has a dust mask on his face or one of those COVID masks.
00:47:10
Speaker
That's fucking awesome. She's poking him with a fucking needle. Like, look, he doesn't feel a thing. Like, that doesn't mean you can poke. That doesn't mean you can stab shit into him. check Check this shit out. like they've but They've been like standing around fucking like stabbing at him for like the past hour. He's like, sure seeia jerk me off and see if I'll come.
00:47:33
Speaker
i bet you I won't. i I bet you I have no feeling down there either. I've, I've, That's what he has to do. From the looks of him, he'd look like he'd be like all nerves down there.
00:47:49
Speaker
oh yeah. well Well, wouldn't it be funny if ah that's how he came back to reality? Because when he has his like ah fits where he goes into his rage, like what he has to do to get some clarity.
00:48:05
Speaker
ah Oh, Jesus Christ. Knock a few protons off the old hype. ah Yeah. Take the fucking elephant.
00:48:20
Speaker
and and just And having just watched Brain Candy, isn't it funny that they've got him spinning on some fucking contraption for no fucking reason whatsoever.

Darkman Rebuilds and Themes of Identity

00:48:33
Speaker
theyre Sam Raimi's like, put him on something spins.
00:48:38
Speaker
And everyone in the fucking hospital's on something that spins.
00:48:43
Speaker
so he said he's like i feel like I feel like a fresh towel drying on the line that was so sweet like what do they have him spinning on that thing for one does yeah the and none of the other doctors were like what does that do i feel like a fresh towel
00:49:20
Speaker
yeah I don't get it I pose nude for the art students now ah oh it's like Freddy Krueger Nightmare on my streets playing in the background oh my fucking god need to do indeed did ah my fucking god I wear the same hat and sweater every single day.
00:49:47
Speaker
And even if it's hot outside, I wear them anyway. um Holy fuck. fucking You're fucking killing me today.
00:50:09
Speaker
It's like ah straight out of fucking... um nightbreed where he jumps out the window and they go in there to discover the window open on a stormy day and yeah oh yeah absolutely breaks the restraints and escapes if i was them yeah would too man they've been fucking if i was them i'd be sweet i don't have to fucking deal with this shit no more freed up a spinner yeah ah
00:50:40
Speaker
Blast of five minutes later, there's some other dirty hobo attached to that thing. Like, what do you guys got me spinning on this for?
00:50:52
Speaker
She's like, check this out. I can poke this fucking asshole and he can't do anything about it. But I feel That's all they do. But feel it.
00:51:04
Speaker
well That's all they do all day. That's the only purpose. Attach people to spinny things and poke them.
00:51:13
Speaker
Oh, fuck. Then he finds his sweet-ass dump duster in the trash. Yep. how What kind of luck is that?
00:51:23
Speaker
You know there's some fucking trash pickers watching this movie like, bullshit! You know that? It's like ah but just like on the fucking crow when when fucking he's walking through the alley and he finds them boots.
00:51:39
Speaker
I don't find a fucking nice last pair of boots in the fucking trash can like that. Like fucking kidding me. Right. He gets can't rain all the time. Can't can't fucking can in Ohio. I'll tell you that fucking rains all the time. Can't rain all the time.
00:51:56
Speaker
can rain all the time Yeah, I was thinking more along the lines of sun Always Sunny in Philadelphia. when oh yeah. When Mac got his duster.
00:52:08
Speaker
Yeah. Sweet duster. That fucking duster, dude. Underneath the tough, muscular dude.
00:52:15
Speaker
He gets that duster, and he approaches Julie on the street, and this whole... He kicks open doors
00:52:26
Speaker
This whole scene is sad. Poor guy. yeah Then he's asleep under a box in water. you know it's not like it's It's not protecting you, Peyton. he can't feel it.
00:52:40
Speaker
so yeah He can't feel that he's getting trench body. Yeah. He's getting trench body. yeah Half of his body is like big and fat because it's all water impregnated.
00:52:55
Speaker
Yeah, because at this point, the way the since he's all fucking ate up, he his body just be probably sucking in all that fucking mud water. He'd be all bloated.
00:53:06
Speaker
ah You know, one of my pet pes right right one of my pet peeves about when they have like people missing their lips in movies and have have them speaking regular, like, making pee sounds and bees and stuff. Yeah.
00:53:22
Speaker
i'll yeah I'll forgive it, but it does bother me a little bit. But in a movie with a guy that's basically, you know, that's, I think I can let that one slide.
00:53:35
Speaker
Well, I mean, if he was like, then like what's that's what? What'd you say? He'd have to like repeat himself like constantly, like in these like great moments right before people are about to die. You know what I'm saying? Like,
00:53:48
Speaker
I'd go, what's your name? He'd go, Aiton. go, what? Aiton. Aiton? What is your name? Aiton.
00:53:59
Speaker
um we have no Aitons here. Darkman. Darkman's got a hell of an yeah back the lab peyton realizes that he's got vomit on his sweater already. Mom's spaghetti.
00:54:23
Speaker
Yeah. Yep. yep Definitely realizes all that. He comes back to see that his lab has been destroyed. I mean, aside from the fact he just got blown out of your lab, but your lab's been destroyed.
00:54:40
Speaker
he picks up that old ass monitor and starts wiping it off. Dude. dude get Give it up.
00:54:48
Speaker
Looks like you're calling the city since the fireman went fucking crazy with the water this time. yeah This is an apple too. This shit is brand fucking new.
00:55:05
Speaker
ah yeah, he starts like cutting his bandages. He's like, what the fuck do I look like? Takes his bandages off and he's a monster.
00:55:18
Speaker
I look like Freddy Krueger.
00:55:23
Speaker
I'm burnt up like Hoeney.
00:55:32
Speaker
They burnt my ass up like a weenie. Left in the fire too long. he's got the He's got the Phantom of the Opera. He's got like reverse Phantom of the Opera. i Where like one day one part of his face is okay.
00:55:48
Speaker
and The rest of it's fine. Yeah, he's got like a quarter of face. he's He's the bizarro... I'm the last dog on the roller. He's bizarro Phantom of the Opera.
00:55:59
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah, he's
00:56:10
Speaker
Oh, yeah. And he can't play the organ. Yeah, he well, he does do a little dance at one point. Yeah, he does. Oh, yes. And that is very reminiscent.
00:56:22
Speaker
Yeah, dude, that's so like used in Army of Darkness as well. Remember? wow and like Little goody two shoes. Yeah, yeah that's a that's Sam Raimi, definitely. Yeah. and fine fucking funny It was 24 days, not 5 days, because it's 571 hours and 57 minutes for the spatial reconstruction.
00:56:43
Speaker
Oh, shit. Okay. So, yeah, it would take a long time. That's a lot of minutes. It'd take a long time to... A lot of minutos.
00:56:55
Speaker
Yeah, it'd take a long time to get the rest of that together.
00:57:00
Speaker
To do the whole body. Like, what they don't know is my asshole melted shut. I'll poke a hole in it every day.
00:57:10
Speaker
gotta build a new one every day. i i jam it open with a dippy bird.
00:57:21
Speaker
i I gotta to stick a dippy bird in there to keep it from don't know why. i don't know He's got a fucking he's got he makes like new plugs every day. Well, I mean, I guess if he's not going out into the sun, i mean, it's not really going to be seen. So if that was indeed to have happened, then he could reconstruct one, right? And then just plug it.
00:57:47
Speaker
Well, I mean, yeah, you would think he would be able to reconstruct the rest of his body because he covers it up in clothing when he leaves. Yeah.
00:57:58
Speaker
But it seems like any light will melt it, not just UV. So I don't fucking I have no idea. I don't think Sam was like, you know, we're going to set these rules in place and they're going to be strict.
00:58:13
Speaker
ah that's I think you're just. Yeah. Okay. He was just kind of like, I don't know. Fuck it. The light melts it. Whatever. Yeah. He's used to three stooges logic.
00:58:24
Speaker
Yeah. Which is I'm on board. Yeah. his So we see him like he's like pushing this grocery cart. Yeah. through and just like everything that he could get his hands on that he was able to salvage that he can clean and hopefully get everything back up and running right so that never happens
00:58:46
Speaker
ah no it does it does he got apparently Yaka Tito was just there for the laughs or something because he didn't need him laughing He did fine by himself with his little kitty.
00:59:02
Speaker
He was able to really get that stuff up and running though. And I always found that interesting, but it's another thing that I really liked too. Cause it was, everything's cut in this movie like that. Like it's, you're not left to sit on this fucking origin of how he got this thing to work anymore. you know what I'm saying? yeah It lets you just fucking ride, ride it, you know?
00:59:23
Speaker
Well, um, and I think that's pretty cool. And I think, I think that this is a nod to evil dead too. and the next scene, well, same scene, but when he's working and he's, um, holding the thing over the flame and then his hand goes into it,
00:59:41
Speaker
Yeah, yeah. When he's screaming, they took my hands. That's what Ash does when he cuts his hand off. I bet, yeah. that yeah They took my hands. It's a very, very subtle nod, but I i haven't read that anywhere.
00:59:57
Speaker
But it seems like it's pretty obvious. It's a nod. Yeah, that's just a... yeah Nod to the ah nerdy nerds. Because Bruce Campbell was supposed to play Darkman.
01:00:10
Speaker
I didn't mention that yet, but he was... Yeah, I didn't know that. I didn't know that originally either. The executives didn't think he could handle the role, so... So ah they gave it to Liam Neeson, who was an up-and-coming actor, but I don't think he had any more clout at the time than Bruce Campbell did. i think this movie... I love Liam Neeson in this part, but I really think this movie would have been better, even with Bruce Campbell as Darkman.
01:00:40
Speaker
I don't know about that. I i just think that like bringing in like a fresh face, I think Liam Neeson fit the part pretty well. i mean Yeah, I agree. I think he did a great job, but I really, man, I would love to see a version of this with Bruce's dark man.
01:00:56
Speaker
Because the plan was, because at the end, as we know, the last look of Darkman is Bruce Campbell because they planned sequels that was going to have Bruce Campbell playing Darkman.
01:01:11
Speaker
yeah But what ended up happening is the sequels went straight to video and you know they Sam Raimi didn't direct them, so Bruce Campbell didn't play Darkman.
01:01:23
Speaker
But the original plan was to make a sequel with Bruce Campbell as Darkman. That's why he is the last Darkman in this movie. Yeah. showing like that face or whatever it was introducing you to what face it because he's a as he said at the end he's like he's no longer peyton you know whatever and it has to be said that fucking dark man's makeup after all these years holds up man it looks so good yeah thank god it does i was noticing that too man yeah I have the 4k version of this and even in 4k, like, you know, normally it exposes shit and in 4k, it looks fucking great.

Conflicts and Disguises

01:02:03
Speaker
Yeah, all the makeup was great in this. Like, the fucking masks, when they start bubbling, was great. Like, just the tricks that he uses are amazing in this movie. I think the guy that did the effects was Tony Gardner. I'd have to look that up.
01:02:18
Speaker
But he was the... Yeah. like yeah yeah He did quite a few of Sam Raimi's movies post-Evil Dead 2 and past, you know? Mm-hmm. But yeah, I just thought I'd mention that. bruce I would love to see a version of this with Bruce Campbell.
01:02:36
Speaker
I don't know. yeah I think Liam Neeson did great. i will you know but i would um just I would love to see what... I could see it because see they set it up at the end. They set it up to go two ways at the end. i mean You know what I'm saying? Which is kind of genius if you think about it.
01:02:51
Speaker
wow This was a one-off movie. one It ended fine. one You can hear Bruce Campbell screaming throughout the entire movie. he He does ADR on a lot of these fucking deaths.
01:03:05
Speaker
But ah we go to the ball, the City of the Future ball first from Strack Industries. and jewel gro city And Julie's there. And
01:03:21
Speaker
Strack's asking her about her decision on the Belisarius memorandum. And ah Julie says it was destroyed in a fire, but we know what she doesn't is that... Well, I don't think at this point do we know... Yeah. ah Louis lewis Strack has the memorandum, which I don't know why why he didn't destroy it right when he got it, but whatever.
01:03:47
Speaker
he's got to hold it. you know He's one of those people. but like Follows into his story. ah Slick Louis gets her to dance with him, and you know that's... that's
01:03:57
Speaker
hey ah peyton Peyton watching crying from outside. Poor guy. It's just this burnt up weenie outside the fucking window watching his woman get romanticized.
01:04:12
Speaker
Yeah. She moved on pretty quick, too. Yeah, I know. How long? I don't know what the time passage here was, but she was like, ah she's like, the best way to get over your ex is to get under a new one. Yeah.
01:04:26
Speaker
Maybe she was, you know, she could be just trying to get inside. Yeah, I mean, she takes the elephant quick. ah She takes Lewis's elephant fast.
01:04:37
Speaker
Well... ah
01:04:41
Speaker
yes so Yeah, yeah, Peyton sees Rick, and he gets, like, fucking triggered from the night of of him killing Yacotito.
01:04:54
Speaker
I'm sorry. You're just saying Yaka Tito. know. And Rick is Ted Raimi, just to be clear. Yeah, we got our boy Ted.
01:05:07
Speaker
Ted. Theodore. Theodore Raimi walking in a dark alley and Dak Man grabs him. Takes him underground like he's some fucking ninja turtle.
01:05:20
Speaker
i love this fucking part, dude. It's like it's fucking awesome. He just fucking scares the living fuck out of him. I know,
01:05:38
Speaker
know you da like butd like to pretend you did are he's like
01:05:51
Speaker
Yeah, he's all about his shit, dude. It's great. And it's like a tight little area, you know? Well, this is... I'm sorry to slow this down again for just one second, but this is another one of those Sam Raimi trademarks where he filmed this scene in four frames a second. He does he does it all the time.
01:06:12
Speaker
Yeah. yeah ah He'll film it in four frames a second and then play it back at 24 frames a second, which is what movies are typically played at. And that's that's what makes everything look like high speed, like fast. And so when he sticks ah Ted Raimi's head up through the through the um manhole, that whole scene where the cars are going by, the reason they look like so fast and everything looks so frantic is because he filmed Ted Raimi acting in four frames per second for that scene.
01:06:45
Speaker
Yeah, yeah. And it's awesome, dude. It's a little another trick. Yeah. it's a it's I don't know how many people do that. I'm sure he's not the first to do it, but he definitely made it his own. It's in it's in all his movies.
01:06:59
Speaker
Yeah. you It absolutely is. It's awesome. He does it quite a bit in this movie. He does it all the fucking time in Army of Darkness and Evil Dead 1 and 2. evil dead one and two Well, yeah, he was he was messing around with so much stop animation, too.
01:07:16
Speaker
So, I mean, he's got all that shit down. Oh, yeah. All that experimentation. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. like It's incredible. The claymation, like the stop motion animation when he's using his computer, like his left hand is...
01:07:32
Speaker
not burned up for whatever reason, which is the one that we saw get burned up, but we'll ignore that. But his right hand is all burnt up and it's animated, but they have them yeah but they have them in the same scene. ah It's pretty cool.
01:07:47
Speaker
Yeah. um Little things. Yeah. Little itty bitty details. Now he's a super spy because he's outside doing, uh, uh, watching Pauly and, um,
01:07:59
Speaker
rude paully Pauly, Rudy, and Skip meet up at the deli. That's right. Which I guess they do all the time. Yeah, that's there that's their meeting spot. Yeah, and I hand them the blue face. They're in a gang.
01:08:13
Speaker
That's important because then, you know... ah because obviously ah that scene, that little exchange at the deli takes, ah is kind of important for later because Darkman, Jackman, takes pictures of Polly and then gets back to the lab again and ah starts replicating Polly's head.
01:08:37
Speaker
Polly's head and hands. But, man, I mean...
01:08:45
Speaker
I can't say that without fucking
01:08:56
Speaker
He replicates Polly's head and hands, which somehow makes him short and fat, too. yep Yep. He uses that trick with his body where he can suck up all the water out of the mud puddle.
01:09:11
Speaker
ah he He just got trench bodied. He just late and laid in a puddle of water until he got fatter. And shorter.
01:09:23
Speaker
He spends 24 hours. Yeah, he's got to prep 24 hours before. He's just got to lay in a fucking mud puddle. Suck up all that mud water. You know, I don't know if you noticed this because you watched it on VHS, didn't you? Yeah. he um if you you know They added contacts to Liam Neeson's eyes when he plays Darkman, so they're like a bright blue.
01:09:45
Speaker
so every So every time he replicates somebody, the way you can tell them apart is the rep like the one that is Darkman has bright blue eyes. and i guess ah and yeah and they I noticed they were blue on the VHS or whatever, but I didn't notice if they were like, you know.
01:10:03
Speaker
Yeah, even when he ah copies Durant, ah like Durant has bright blue eyes anyway, but you can still tell the difference between them. because they pick yeah And when they show the close-up, you can see the outline of the contacts.
01:10:18
Speaker
Right. right you know, just a little thing to look for if you're watching it. is ah It is cool too because it does it does take you a little bit... um After a while, you're like, what the fuck? Who's who? It throws you through a loop a little bit.
01:10:34
Speaker
Yeah. Pretty fun. Yeah. If you have, ah like like I said, I watched it in 4K, so if you it's a little easier. But if you have, like, probably even DVD, it might be easy. In the scene when Drake is playing, when um he's playing Drake, or, um said see, I said Drake.
01:10:52
Speaker
Ha, ha, ha, ha. Ha, ha, ha, ha. Larry Drake, Robert Durant, when he's playing Durant, ah even in a scene where they're in a turnstile together, you can tell the difference just by the eyes are little bit bluer.
01:11:08
Speaker
little bit bluer. ah Just something to look for next time you watch. Yeah, I love that scene too. fuck? You know, but ah the next ah fucking he we cut to Polly's apartment where ah Dark Darkman Peyton walks in and he goes, hey, Polly, does this smell like chloroform to you?
01:11:31
Speaker
Yeah.
01:11:36
Speaker
Huh? Yeah, that's fucking great. ah He saw Pauly's dong because he changed his clothes. He put them in a suit. Maybe he didn't take his underwear off, but...
01:11:48
Speaker
Too sensitive for underwear. He's got to probably go fucking... Go Commando. Oh, yeah. almost said go Rambo. go Go get... You, we'll stay... ah You go fuck them, we'll stay here and masturbate.
01:12:06
Speaker
What the fuck? Yeah. Yes, sir. ah yeah Oh, yes, sir.
01:12:15
Speaker
And he puts he plants tickets for Rick and Pauly. You know, yeah and plane tickets and everything to make it look like they were gonna run away together with the money.
01:12:27
Speaker
ah Yeah. hey yeah Because I guess I, I guess I kind of skipped over that. But when he, when he dresses like Polly, he goes to that deli and does a fake. Oh, well, no, they haven't done that yet. He drugs him first. Yeah.
01:12:43
Speaker
So nevermind. Yep. yeah he Yeah, he makes it look like ah he's getting ready fucking split with all the money. He gets it all set up and he he fucks him up good. And he splits with everything.
01:12:56
Speaker
Bingo. And yeah. and well and and Well, he doesn't really. I mean, he just makes it look like he's going to leave with everything. Well, yeah, I mean, he makes it look like he's getting ready split. He does a pretty good job of it.
01:13:11
Speaker
Then we see that he's perfectly replicated them. Yeah, right. He would be the greatest impressionist of all time because he nails the voices.
01:13:23
Speaker
Yeah. He's on it, man. But we see him short we treat see him doing that, period got you know what I'm saying? Like, trying to record people. and like he does it with, I think, Durant, doesn't I think he would do a better Donald Trump than Shane Gillis. yeah he's got the He's got some skills, man. Yeah.
01:13:45
Speaker
Or a better Dr. Phil than Adam Ray. Yeah. dr phil then adam ray
01:13:51
Speaker
yeah He might. i don't know, man. Out of Rain's pretty fucking good. Dark, dark, dark man is that as Dr. Phil. Yeah. You'd just know because you'd have those beautiful blue eyes.
01:14:05
Speaker
Yeah. But, uh... But yeah, he he so he meets up with ah with Skip and Polly at the at the deli, and he takes the money.
01:14:17
Speaker
So then when he disappears, we get the shot, we get the whole scene, which was like one continuous shot with a handheld camera. The whole scene with, uh, in Polly's room is fucking awesome. If you, if you, if you go back and watch it, keep in mind, it's sweet. Like it's basically a guy in the room. I don't know that Sam Raimi did it. I'm not sure if he's the one that shot that scene, but, uh, mm-hmm.
01:14:43
Speaker
It's just one whole scene with a guy holding a camera because he's doing all this whip panning where he's swinging the camera around the room focus on And that's another like ah Sam Raimi thing. like He does whip pannings into like snap zooms where he'll yep he'll whip the camera around and then zoom hard fast real fast into someone's face.
01:15:07
Speaker
and he does Yeah, he'll bring you right the fuck in there. Yeah, that's awesome. Yeah, and he does like all the Dutch angles and shit where he just has the camera off-skew just a little bit just to make it... It's fucking sweet.
01:15:23
Speaker
A lot of experimentation. was really cool. Yeah, and Pauly has no fucking clue what's going on. He's like, why am I wearing a suit? Yeah. ah I know you've woke up like that before. Like, what what the fuck am I wearing? Yeah.
01:15:38
Speaker
I've woke up and been like, how'd I get to this bar?
01:15:44
Speaker
I woke up. I don't know how old I was, but, um, ah I up at my brother's. hoing ah Yeah. oh I had crashed up my brother's house and we had gotten like pink. I don't know. was twenties or something.
01:16:00
Speaker
And, um, I fucking woke up and I had his stepkids' coat like halfway up my arm in the sleeve. And he was like 11 years old.
01:16:14
Speaker
But they have like a coat rack like on the back of their door. So at some point, I like just grabbed the wrong jacket. And I woke up and had this like my arm like not even halfway through like this coat.
01:16:27
Speaker
well Like big guy in a little coat shit. Perfect.
01:16:33
Speaker
yeah you I used to think of it like teleporting because if i the more alcohol I drank, I would just appear um else somewhere else. Like, whoa, I get here?
01:16:44
Speaker
We need to make our own alcohol where it's like the catchphrase is like, drink enough of this and you can teleport. Yeah.
01:16:54
Speaker
I'm surprised they haven't done that already. Yeah. But, uh, the moon, but Robert, Robert and Rudy wake Polly up and, uh, they throw his ass out the fucking window.
01:17:07
Speaker
fucking do. ah man. They don't, so they walk right up in on him. Yeah, he's like, God, dude, that would have fucking seen. Yeah, because like right when they fucking busted, he's like, what the fuck? You know, he's like, why am I in a suit? He's like, where's the money? And he's like, well, what the fuck's going on? Like, he has no idea. And there's like a suitcase playing tickets like we're talking about to Rio. Yeah.
01:17:34
Speaker
And fucking. Yeah. That whole scene, it's just the shock in Pauly's face. It's just so like on point. like He's like, I don't know what the fuck you're talking about. Next thing you know, he's like getting picked up and thrown out a window. like What a fucking rough day.
01:17:50
Speaker
chaos What a way to wake up. like yeah like What the fuck? What the fuck? what the fuck He lands on a car, and this is our Sam Raimi cameo, because he walks right by in this scene.
01:18:03
Speaker
Yeah, that's fucking awesome. when when um When Polly hits the car and you see the woman realizing that the guy sitting on the bench looks exactly like him, when ah yeah and yeah when it's looking back at Darkman sitting on the bench, Darkman Polly sitting on the bench, Sam Raimi walks right by right through the frame.
01:18:25
Speaker
Yeah. like Don't mind me!
01:18:30
Speaker
You're doing great. Doing a good job.
01:18:36
Speaker
and Yeah, this is when we get to see the bubbling of the mask and stuff. like This shit, man, I love how they did these masks. And they make these masks seem like like fleshy. like Even when they get pulled off because they're all squishy sounding.
01:18:52
Speaker
you know like It's so weird. yeah But it's fucking wicked. Yeah, I think they made a lot of it out of gelatin so they could melt it. So they could make it look like it melts, you know?
01:19:05
Speaker
um Yeah, yeah, sweet. Yeah. And, um, but this is what I was talking about. Like, cause it cuts to that night and dark man's on the roof in between like two gargoyles. He's like, Oh God. Yeah. What have I become?
01:19:20
Speaker
That's like, my that's like one of the, you become a very rich man is what you become. ah Yeah. You just, you just stole all that monies.
01:19:30
Speaker
And they don't know who the fuck. And where are we going? Where are we going next? Kevin?
01:19:44
Speaker
You caught me off guard for a second.
01:19:49
Speaker
I had them Darkman eyes. Back to the lab. Back to the lab again.
01:20:02
Speaker
and my man. This is this where he loses his mind and starts dancing. yeah Yeah. this is Yeah, this is fucking great. the The total dance, dude.
01:20:13
Speaker
Come see the freak. Only five bucks. Come see the dancing freak. What am I? Some kind of a circus freak. Is that it? Is that it? kind of a freak? Maybe I should be wearing a funny little hair.
01:20:29
Speaker
you like it? Yeah? Yeah? See, you're dancing freak. Pay five bucks. This is the dancing freak. Only five bucks to see the dancing freak.
01:20:45
Speaker
He
01:20:48
Speaker
he somehow had the fucking little funnel. Like, why's he got a... I guess he would have a funnel. I guess he would need a funnel for, you know, cum collection.
01:21:00
Speaker
I mean, I don't know. Come see the dancing. Beer bonging. Yeah, beer bonging. ah It would be in the mirror. and beer I wouldn't try to. I would completely understand if you were beer bonging, if 90 some percent of your body was burned up like that.
01:21:17
Speaker
and Oh, absolutely. Put everything in there. don't even care at that point. But he starts losing his shit and smashing his lab up just as his fucking face reconstruction completes.
01:21:33
Speaker
Yep. He gets to go to try to line up his weekend. He's like, holy shit. I might get to give her my fucking elephant.
01:21:47
Speaker
Because how fucking weird how fucking weird would this be if you were visiting your ex's grave? and I would be so fucking pissed. Like, no matter who it was, like, if, like, you know, you know we didn't me and you didn't see each other, like, all these years or whatever, and then I was like, oh, there's this grave that you showed like, hi, Kevin.
01:22:08
Speaker
mean, i was just I was just in a hospital. They were just poking me with needles and spinning me on top thingies. Spinning me around. yeah They were just spinning me around and poking me with needles.
01:22:24
Speaker
and they There's a whole line of us.
01:22:30
Speaker
There's a whole bunch of us. i freed up ah I freed up a spinny thing for one of the other hobos. and He lifts up his leg. He's like, look at my fucking i' leg. It's still all fucked up because he hadn't printed a leg yet.
01:22:43
Speaker
i wait till you see my dick. he's wearing He's wearing nude pantyhose. His dick looks like you microwave the hot dog where it splits down the middle.
01:22:57
Speaker
It fucking really got me there. God damn. He's got a button, he's got the zipper like infused, ah the zipper from his pants like infused down the top of his dick.
01:23:13
Speaker
ah What cool fucking pure body modification would that be? God damn polyester. Look at my fucking zipper here.
01:23:24
Speaker
Ha!
01:23:27
Speaker
Oh, yeah, it'd be a fucking suit with with a plastic zipper. Oh, God. Just melt right into it. my God. Poor Darkman.
01:23:39
Speaker
Yep, he's been through a lot. Poor Peyton. Yeah, he's been through a lot. or So, you know, obviously she freaks the fuck out, you know, as anybody would. Like, what the fuck are you doing, you know?
01:23:51
Speaker
um Then we cut to them like sitting and talking about like what happened. and He's got this whole story you know and background and well the needles and everything else.
01:24:05
Speaker
This is where I'm saying he should have met her later at night. Like, why don't we meet tonight? Yeah. you know Yeah, I mean, you'd think that he would, in a way, um move forward to do that, but maybe he was just antsy in the pantsy.
01:24:21
Speaker
yeah Yeah, but he does it a couple times.
01:24:26
Speaker
So this is on him. He needs to think outside the box a little bit. is Start at nighttime and just perfect his... Now, I suppose we need to excuse it a little bit because he has been touched by Jesus.
01:24:42
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah, but we don't know that yet. Yeah, we don't know that. But she don't know that yet. And we don't really know that until part three. Yeah. That's retconned.
01:24:55
Speaker
but Yeah. He's been touched by Jesus, so we know that. ah And I want to know what kind of ten, this tranks the strength of what ten

Raimi's Humor and Filmmaking Choices

01:25:05
Speaker
men? Because some guy, you know, what if it's like ten old old weak men or men or and young strongman.
01:25:13
Speaker
don't know. yeah yeah but ah we That's hard to That's very interesting. We get a new character introduced in the next scene.
01:25:27
Speaker
Well, not introduced, but mentioned. And I gotta wonder if Sam Raimi was like, he ah because they called the guy Hung Fung Fung Fat.
01:25:39
Speaker
Sam Raimi's got such an innocent sense of humor. He was probably thought this was like the peak of comedy. loves that shit, You know he tells dad jokes all day long.
01:25:56
Speaker
Well, that fucking drag me to hell, that part with the goat, um he wanted ah puppet goat in that scene um because of how kind of silly it was, especially the part when it's like, you whore. Like, he got such a big kick out of that.
01:26:16
Speaker
So he does, because they were going to use a real goat through that whole fucking scene. But he was like, no, I want to use the puppet goat because it's it's so much sillier.

Darkman's Manipulations and Financial Struggles

01:26:26
Speaker
But we get to see Robert's finger collection.
01:26:30
Speaker
And he... A couple of them have been predescent. Yeah, this is what we finally get to see. Like, why... yeah He's got them. He's got, like, all of them, like, painted, like, different colors. Like, like he's, like, practicing, like, doing press-on nails.
01:26:45
Speaker
He's got some with, like, Hawaiian, like, sunsets with, like, palm trees.
01:26:50
Speaker
Well... ah This is where Darkman is basically spying on him so he can mimic his voice and ah find out that where he's what he's doing, what his next move is, because he's hurting for money, apparently, because Darkman stole all his money.
01:27:11
Speaker
so Yeah, he just took a big chunk out of him. Yeah, so he's got to go collect some money from Hung Fat. Yeah.
01:27:21
Speaker
or or he's gonna make hung fat he really hit him hard man whatever however much money was in that suitcase yeah you know like it's a that that must have been an incredible hit he must not like small bills yeah or whatever youate that's a lot Durant's house is fucking sweet But yeah, it's fucking crazy.
01:27:43
Speaker
What if like he, what if Peyton dropped his briefcase off and it was just filled with IOUs like off gum and gummer? That one there is a car.
01:27:54
Speaker
and You might want to hold on to that. that Yeah, that one there is an Apple. 250 two hundred That one there is for two Apple IIs. Yeah, and you get an Apple too and they got this thing coming out soon called an iPhone.
01:28:11
Speaker
Hold on to that one. You won't believe it.
01:28:17
Speaker
It's funny. He takes... ah his he bla He robs that liquor store whatever, and he blatantly he like stops and looks at the camera. He's like, my name is Robert G. Durant.
01:28:28
Speaker
yeah yeah Oh, yeah. That's fucking awesome, dude. oh Just so they'll arrest him. Just so they'll arrest him. Yeah. He fucking sets him for the old okey-dokey. But want Yeah, so that that way that way the police arrest him and he can go to the meeting with Hung Fat.
01:28:51
Speaker
Yeah, it's like, Robert, it's so funny because he's like, okay, i'm just going to cut to the chase and, you know, make this motherfucker just go in and rob us some like random little corner market.
01:29:03
Speaker
Like, you know, this fucking big time gangster. Just to get him fucking arrested. of I fucking love it. Yeah, and stop and look at the camera.
01:29:15
Speaker
My name. Yeah, dude. Incredible. Like this big time gangster. Yeah, right. He's not going to go take down this fucking $200 cash register. I
01:29:29
Speaker
i love it. It was fun. was fun. Yep, and ah we'll go on... He's like, what the fuck? he got it What the fuck? Yeah. and So, yeah, we'll go to the meeting with ah Hung Fat, because ah he gets and because Darkman, disguised as Durant, ah gets to the meeting with ah Hung Fat, and Hung Fat tells him he doesn't have any money, and they bring in their big boys to try to intimidate them.
01:30:03
Speaker
Yeah, shake him down. Yeah. And ah he sits in the fucking, he sits in Hung Fat's chair and starts burning his hand. He says, you will give me he says something like, you'll give me the money that's owed before of my I'm done with this cigar.
01:30:18
Speaker
And then he cuts the cigar down to like one inch. Yep. And then burns his own. He's like, shit, I had, he's like, I got time. And he'll, oh shit, I don't. Yeah. Then he holds a match under his hand like, that's what did it?
01:30:31
Speaker
Mm-hmm. Okay. Yeah. Like, I don't know. It didn't seem very intimidating to me, but ah while all this is happening, Robert, the real Robert gets out of jail and heads for the Hong Kong restaurant to because he knows he knows that Darkman's interfering here.
01:30:53
Speaker
Yeah. Man, if they had this i if they already had those iPhones, this scene would have been over quick because he could have called him, FaceTimed him. He could have.
01:31:04
Speaker
I said FaceTime from Hey Fuckface. Yeah. yeah Right? Yeah. how What are you doing?
01:31:16
Speaker
Hey Fuckface.
01:31:29
Speaker
You will provide us the revenues owed to us by the time I finish this cigar.
01:31:37
Speaker
It's awesome. It's awesome. But Durant shows up, Chess is there leaving, and we get that cool scene in the, uh, I don't know what that thing's called, the the revolving door, the glass door, but both yeah there's revolving doors Durant and Robert, Robert, Darkman Durant get stuck in there together.
01:31:59
Speaker
I love that scene too. yeah They start running after each other for a second, which is kind of comedic and stopping like, what the fuck? Yeah, you get to see Danny Hicks trying to his best to run with a fucking fake leg attached.
01:32:12
Speaker
Like he's got a fake leg. yeah he said He said he did yoga, like kind of yoga leading up to this to get him used to having his real leg taped up behind so he could Oh, yeah. That'd be fucking... Well, in scenes like this, I'm sure he was just pretending, but in the scenes where it shows his leg is gone and they, you know... was about to say, man, he's he's really going for it. Yeah.
01:32:39
Speaker
Yeah, this is a

Unveiling Darkman's True Appearance

01:32:40
Speaker
scene where he... wore his leg taped back for like three months to get ready for this role. Yeah. He's actually participating in this scene, though, because he's firing a gun. He's not just standing in the background hopping.
01:32:51
Speaker
Yeah. Poor fella. Poor fella. Poor little guy. robert Robert yells at Skip, says, where's Rudy? He says, I thought he was with you. yeah but they chase dark Darkman through the street shooting at him, and they see his mask bubbling on the ground. so It's like, I think he would be easier to find one once the mask came off.
01:33:15
Speaker
Look for the guy with the fucking burnt up head. I think he's got multiple masks, though. yeah like Yeah, because he does that at the end. I don't think... he does he He pulls them all out. like one set Once that scene's over, we get another scene with ah Peyton at the fair in the fucking daytime.
01:33:35
Speaker
You know, they have fairs. Well, yeah, it cuts right to that, too. So we go to this like crazy fucking scene where he just pulled the okey-doke on everybody. He's being shot at. Masks bubbling. Cut to, like, happy days.
01:33:48
Speaker
You know? He's like... At the fair, you know, with Julie, like, walking around. Like, it's so funny. Yeah, he says. Like, this all happened today. What'd you get into today? Oh, nothing.
01:34:00
Speaker
i was i was gonna get up in them guts. Yeah. I was hoping to get up in them guts. You gonna take this youre going to take just fucking elephant?
01:34:13
Speaker
Ah, this this is the scene. Because the carny fucked him over. And, uh, he, uh, he, cause they go, they go to play the game where he knocks the three bottles down with baseball.
01:34:28
Speaker
And obviously he has the strength of 10 men. so well, yeah, dude, he fucking like fucking whales into those balls.
01:34:41
Speaker
ah I didn't have a better way to say that. I need to clip that out. Yeah. He wails into them balls.
01:34:51
Speaker
He's like, work, work, work. Well, into them balls. Look at them balls.
01:34:58
Speaker
He does. um and The fucking the car. He fucks him over. Scumbag. Yeah. And rightfully so. Peyton gets angry. But, you know, because his ain't because his emotions are heightened for whatever reason.
01:35:14
Speaker
They explained it in the hospital. But ah his emotions are in height because they they cut they made it to where he can feel no pain. So for whatever reason, his brain is like, fuck it, we're going up to 10.
01:35:29
Speaker
and Yeah, there's no filter. they He just gets sees adrenaline surges if he's triggered. and it And that's what like causes... yeah I love the little ah little montage that it shows in his head of him like losing his fucking mind.
01:35:46
Speaker
I fucking always have this scene. Anytime that I've gotten so fucking mad, you know, that's what I feel like is happening in my brain.
01:35:57
Speaker
You know what I'm saying? Like, just the collage of shit. It's it's so awesome. And then it goes back into his face, you know? Yeah. And he breaks the fucking carny's fingers and throw hold them back throws him through the back of it. And then he grabs the elephant and he tells fucking Julie, Take the fucking elephant!
01:36:18
Speaker
and the fucking of no Take like the fucking elephant! He was like, before that, man, that carny, dude, he was like, fucking, he was such a prick. He was like, nope.
01:36:31
Speaker
Sorry, man. And he what he kept saying to him, he fucking... ah camera did He was if you a fucking dick, though. If you showed me a picture of that guy and said, what do you think he does for a living? I'd say carny.
01:36:43
Speaker
Fucking dead on. a Perfect, perfect. Step over the line. Step over the line, buddy. Doesn't count. Yeah. Perfect. I'd like to have the pink elephant.
01:36:56
Speaker
Take the fucking elephant. Sorry, buddy. Cross the line. But as Peyton begins the bubble, he runs you know he runs back to the lab again.
01:37:07
Speaker
and Julie follows him. follows This time. Back to the lab.
01:37:15
Speaker
And she sees his mask melting on the table. He's like, oh, shit.

Emotional Outburst at the Fair

01:37:22
Speaker
She calls out to him saying he didn't have to lie and she'll help him and all that shit.
01:37:26
Speaker
But he just cries. Yeah, he just cries. Darkman cries. He has a lot of reason to cry, though. I mean, ah you know, he he should be in ah he should be yelling out, this is all your fault, bitch!
01:37:44
Speaker
Right?
01:37:46
Speaker
yeah Every fucking thing! I was doing fine! I was making dinosaurs! i made dino chicken nuggets! I made him fight on my plate and the ketchup was the blood. That was stupid.
01:38:09
Speaker
Back at Strack's office, Julie's breaking up with him, finally, after she had already been out on a couple dates with Peyton. Yeah, yeah. And she's just now breaking up with Strack.
01:38:25
Speaker
You fucking bitch. You can't wait. See? So then that answers all the other shit from earlier.
01:38:35
Speaker
You just can't wait. Yeah, you just fucking... He's a... I don't know who's the bad guy here. I mean, i mean obviously Strack is, but for for Peyton, I would almost want to kill her, too. feel like, bitch, you fucking... You got me fucked.
01:38:56
Speaker
You got this guy to fucking burn my face off, kill my fucking lab assistant, And you fucked him?
01:39:05
Speaker
And he's crying about her? Psh. Psh. Psh. i
01:39:17
Speaker
She'd get that fucking elephant up her ass.
01:39:23
Speaker
But she's there breaking up with Strack finally, and he gets a phone call, and she sees the Bellisaurus memorandum on Strack's desk with the coffee ring on it from earlier.
01:39:37
Speaker
Why Strack didn't destroy it as soon as he got it, I don't know. Exactly. Why didn't he set that thing on fire? Maybe it was a trophy. Or shred it.
01:39:48
Speaker
He just has it laying there. Like, maybe she'll find it and then I'll get to kill this bitch. Maybe that, or he just wanted it out. heard Just for, just because it's a trophy.
01:40:02
Speaker
ah But... she realized she finally puts it all together that Strack had Peyton's lab burned and he shows her the the progress of the construction of the city that he's building, which all things considered, I don't think his intentions are horrible.
01:40:19
Speaker
It's just his the means by which he went about it, you know, where he, you know, killed... Because it was over bribery. You know, he killed Peyton and everything.
01:40:31
Speaker
But,

Strack's Sinister Plans and Corruption

01:40:32
Speaker
uh... Up to that point, his biggest crime in the movie, at least in the timeline we have, is just bribery. Big fucking deal. Yeah, right. I wouldn't necessarily call him a bad guy at that point. I'd just say he wasn't.
01:40:47
Speaker
I don't know. But once he burned up, once he sent Durant after him, that that's when it turned. Yeah. Yeah. But either way, I mean, he is... What an asshole. Because he says he's going to create thousands of jobs. I mean, i don't know. think that he's like, you know, he's he's just a madman. He's involved with, you know, he's involved with the gang, obviously. We think that, like, the gang's like the big...
01:41:17
Speaker
issue here right you know and we find that they work for him you know so it's like corruption with these big powers you know well she fucks she fucks off she leaves and our boy bennie is our boy Benny is waiting out in the waiting room ah um Robert Durant I wanted to call call him Benny you're retarded Benny
01:41:50
Speaker
And Strack basically tells him, hey, she knows about the memorandum. You must go kill her. and and dark man And Peyton is still alive, and she'll guide us to him. And that is what sets us so off right into the finale of the movie.
01:42:09
Speaker
Yeah, it sets up good, man. Like I said, it just goes, and it's fucking cool. The huge finale of this movie. I mean, this is where most of the budget went, I assume.
01:42:22
Speaker
ah's ah like I think this movie cost them like $16 million, dollars but you would swear it was a lot more than that. Oh, with all the practical shit, dude. its It's a lot.
01:42:33
Speaker
It's everything. Because as soon as she arrives at his lab, the fucking gang arrives immediately and starts shooting at Darkman. Yeah.
01:42:44
Speaker
Yeah. And they got a helicopter involved and everything. Dude, they didn't fuck around. And, you know, again, Drake's up there fucking shooting everything. Like, he doesn't give a fuck. He's just got a helicopter full fucking weapons.
01:43:00
Speaker
Well, yeah, he's got, like, that grenade launcher. he says shoot This is like when you first see him get mad when he's shooting at Darkman and he's fuck he's like, ah son of a bitch!
01:43:12
Speaker
Yeah. But Darkman attacks Rudy and ties his hands up, puts a fucking smiley mask on him, which is yeah ah pretty cool.
01:43:26
Speaker
and this shit This scene, man, he's got... Yeah, go ahead, I'm sorry. I got excited because I like this scene a lot. No, you go ahead. No, you're good. He puts a ah he puts a smiley mask. He puts a smiley mask on top of a Rudy mask.
01:43:43
Speaker
No, on top of a dark on top of a Peyton mask on top of ah regular Rudy face. Right. Yes. Yes. Yeah. Something like that. But he had his fucking mouth duct tape shut.
01:43:56
Speaker
And, like, it's fucking great. As he goes running up to him. Yeah, and when he pulls the mask, when he pulls the smiley mask off, it looks like Rudy, but then he starts screaming.
01:44:07
Speaker
Or no, it looks like Peyton. and Yeah. And he goes to shoot. He shoots Peyton, but right ah as you see when he starts screaming, there's something wrong in his mouth. and It's because he has duct tape on the mouth of Rudy,
01:44:22
Speaker
which he has Peyton mask over top of, if that makes sense. it's fucking so It's fucking... So he he runs in and he's going, and it's Smiley, right?
01:44:35
Speaker
And that's why it looks so weird. You're like, what the fuck? So but see he Smiley fucking kicks... kicks him and he's laughing. And then, yeah, he, he like gets down there and he's like going, Oh, no but you're like, what the fuck's in his mouth? You know, you don't realize.
01:44:51
Speaker
And he pulls that mask off. Then it's fucking Peyton and he gets up and it's scares the shit out of him. Yeah. And then he rips that mask off and yeah, it's fucking, it's awesome. yeah it's all It's confusing to talk about because it's like he's he's smile.
01:45:06
Speaker
He is Rudy with a Peyton mask on and a smiley mask on top of that. So he's double masked. And then and then he comes in with the sp went dark man comes in with a smiley mask on and looks straight at Smiley. So you you got to think Smiley's head just fucking blew out the back of his, you know. Yeah. His brain just blew out the back of his head. Like, what the fuck is going on?
01:45:34
Speaker
Yeah. He's like, what the fuck is happening? Yeah, dude. It's awesome. and dark Darkman beats the shit out of Smiley. And and we it cuts to the helicopter landing on the roof, and Darkman immediately begins, you know, he starts attacking Robert, so they take off.
01:45:54
Speaker
And we don't know quite yet what happened to Smiley, because they cut away from it.

Final Confrontations and Explosions

01:46:01
Speaker
But when he wakes up, he realizes that Darkman set up an explosion, kind of the same as they did to him with the Dippy Bird.
01:46:09
Speaker
Yeah, yeah. But with a twist. He's got his own cabinet, cabinet dippy bird. hey Yeah, he got dippy bird. He's like, this one was up my butt.
01:46:21
Speaker
ah Keeping my butt from healing closed. Now it's yours. like Luckily, he doesn't touch it because he he reaches for the hologram.
01:46:34
Speaker
Yep.
01:46:37
Speaker
and ah Fucking sweet. Yep, he realizes he's been duped and the whole building explodes. And you know who was in that building that we don't know if he's alive or dead and they never explain?
01:46:49
Speaker
Skip. Who? Skip. Oh, yeah. I guess you don't really you don't see Skip through like the rest of it, do you? ah No, Skip just disappears. We can assume he died in the explosion.
01:47:02
Speaker
Goddamn. Okay. Yeah, we'll just... See, r i b they did record... Question mark? They did record his death, and it was earlier in the movie, and Darkman throws him across a room and punches a bunch of holes in the wall and asking him for information. So the line that he gave to Rick...
01:47:23
Speaker
Ted Raimi was the line that he was supposed to give to Skip because he was supposed to say, I told you everything, and he goes, let's pretend you didn't, and then kills him. yeah yeah They apparently filmed that. I'll have to look and see if I can find the deleted scene.
01:47:37
Speaker
But yeah, Skip died off-screen, basically. he He died in the outtakes.
01:47:46
Speaker
and and the o Oh, okay. Yeah, so his his death scene wasn't included in the movie. They cut it. But we can pretend watching the theatrical version that he's still alive.
01:47:59
Speaker
Right, yeah. but so I gotcha. But so outside, Darkman is holding onto the helicopter and Robert kicks him out, but he holds onto that ah hook that they got hanging from it. Yeah.
01:48:11
Speaker
And yeah that whole fucking scene, they had like several stuntmen working on that and none of them wanted to go twice for good reason. Absolutely, yeah. scene's fucking nuts, man. Yeah, they're getting flown around new York City hanging by a fucking...
01:48:28
Speaker
cable from a helicopter, that would be terrifying. Yeah, he's like, get it off! Get him off! Get off! You know, ah you gotta watch this whole scene again because it's, did you notice, like, went this is the only time in the whole movie that the police get involved, and did you notice when the police helicopter pulls up next to him?
01:48:51
Speaker
It's clear, it's a black guy, ah police officer is a black guy, but it's Sam Raimi's voice. No, I didn't realize that. Well, you see this black dude lean out of this helicopter with a bullhorn, and he goes he and then he starts to talk, and he goes, Set the man down gently and land your craft.
01:49:13
Speaker
But it's a black guy, and it sounds like the whitest dude ever. this is Police 712. Set down the man gently and land your craft. Put down your craft.
01:49:24
Speaker
um That's awesome. Set the man down gently and land your craft. That's awesome. Yeah. and That's so funny.
01:49:38
Speaker
i love this is this next part. They lower... Well, this part's fucking funny. They lower him down. When they lower him down, he goes through the tunnel and his little legs, he's like... Running super fast. cartoon.
01:49:53
Speaker
he gets hit by the classic. Yep. The Oldsmobile, man. Yep, that's in all of his movies. You know, Raimi Yep. Ashley. Good car.
01:50:05
Speaker
Ash's car. Or, I don't think, Ash wasn't driving it, so it might not have been his car. But the car from Evil Dead. Yeah, it's Evil Dead's car. Sam Raimi's first car.
01:50:16
Speaker
Robert blows up police helicopter. And then the fucking, um, this is where I have to say Robert Durant is dead because dark man attaches the cable to the top of that semi and they drag him into an overpass and the helicopter loads.
01:50:36
Speaker
And, uh, but he somehow survives for part two. why Watch this scene and ask yourself how the fuck he could have survived. But okay. so That's all you see is him going...
01:50:51
Speaker
well and And I'll spoil it for you because you're probably better off never watching part two. but um i probably won't watch it unless it's like on somewhere. i'm not going to go out of my way.
01:51:03
Speaker
Yeah, so you know how they kill him in part two? They blow him up in inside of a limousine, as if that's worse than getting blown up inside of a helicopter.
01:51:15
Speaker
Like, he's dead now. He blew up in a limousine. and Okay. How did he come back? Did they explain how he came back? No, he just appeared and was like, yep, it seems like I survived.
01:51:27
Speaker
Yeah.
01:51:29
Speaker
He's got like a little tiny scar on his forehead where he bumped it. Basically, he's walking with a cane and he has a little cut on his face.
01:51:40
Speaker
It's fucking crazy. And they were talking about, because Sam Raimi didn't direct it, but I believe he produced it. And they were talking about making a part three with him in it. You know, he's not in part three, but Sam Raimi was talking about doing a third one with him in it.
01:51:56
Speaker
And he said, but you blew me up. You blew me up. They did make a part three, but he's not in it. And no if if, no, that's what i'm saying. If Raimi, like, But, it yeah, but Raimi was like, ah we can bring you back. Don't worry, it's a comic book.
01:52:11
Speaker
yeah like Yeah. Everybody comes back.
01:52:16
Speaker
But they meet up at the at one of the construction sites with Strack and Robert Durant, who is Darkman at this point. This guy is Durant. And Strack has Julie at gunpoint, and they take the elevator to the top of the building.
01:52:32
Speaker
Yep. And he says, I'm glad you survived, Robert. but I'd hate to see your kids deprived of a role model. Yeah. And he goes, what do you say? He's like, they do look up to me.
01:52:48
Speaker
know. A forced line if I ever heard one. They do look up to me. know. Sam Raimi was like, nobody will notice. Just put that in there. That'll work.
01:53:00
Speaker
That's so funny, dude. ah If you watch, if you watch ah the there's four people up there. There's Julie, ah Robert Durant as Darkman, as Robert Durant, and Louis Strack, but then there's the fourth guy. That fourth guy is Liam Neeson's stunt double.
01:53:23
Speaker
Oh, yeah. Hell, yeah. ah Clearly, why that's just one thing. Robert doesn't have any kids. And pulls a he does a Scooby-Doo thing and pulls Darkman's mask off. Yeah.
01:53:36
Speaker
See, that's the whole like that right there, like as Darkman, you followed this guy. You know what I'm saying? like you You tracked him. Why wouldn't you look to see if like he had children? Because he clearly is a man that doesn't Wouldn't probably have children. and Yeah, I mean, well, don't think.
01:53:54
Speaker
I'm just. No. ah this does I don't care. Yeah. Yeah, I would be like. don't know. This guy ain't got no kids. He's got fingers. I just wouldn't respond.
01:54:06
Speaker
I'd be like, my fucking ass itches. Yeah. And then he'd be like, Robert's ass does itch. Robert's ass. He just, yeah, he speaks in third person.
01:54:19
Speaker
Robert Durant's ass itches. Whoops. Whoops. Excuse me for a moment.
01:54:35
Speaker
julie julie Julie tries to knock the goon off. and well um yes sir he started ah Strack starts shooting a fucking um rivet gun at him.
01:54:48
Speaker
Right? At Darkman. yeah I guess that's not quite yet. but ah It's not, no. Because she tries to knock his goon off the stunt double, and she somehow gets saved by Rebar that she must have passed right through.
01:55:09
Speaker
Rebar for saving the day, man. Rebar save the day. i mean, I don't know how the physics line up here, how she, how her handcuffs got caught on there without her body getting completely split in half.
01:55:24
Speaker
But right. Don't think too hard.
01:55:29
Speaker
Don't think too hard.
01:55:33
Speaker
let's go into it Let's go down the wormhole. i Yeah, let's let's start to talk about the logic, the physics and everything. And, you know, ah when... um If you ask Sam Raimi about it, he'd just say, Fuck it.
01:55:49
Speaker
Lay him down gently. When he knocks the... When Darkman hooks the fourth guy, the goon, up with the the yeah hook, this is where... when he and he drops him off the building. You can clearly... This is 1,000% obviously Bruce Campbell screaming. no!
01:56:12
Speaker
Help!
01:56:29
Speaker
i Yeah, I did notice that one. Absolutely. There is no doubt about it. Yeah. It's totally him, man. But that's when Strack picks up the rivet gun and starts blasting. Blasting.
01:56:42
Speaker
I'd like to know what kind of air pressure that thing takes and where his compressor's at.
01:56:49
Speaker
It's fucking sweet. like I was like, what the fuck is that? And yeah, it's like those rivet punchers or whatever. fucking sweet and he just picks it up like it ain't shit too but then he does talk about like how he grew up being up there walking along all the uh all the metal and stuff you know well you know what loves his buildings you know what fucking really sets it off he shoots one of those rivets in the dark man's hand and pins him to the wall and then and then he tells dark man that he banged julie
01:57:26
Speaker
i do yeah he's like while you was in the hospital I was banging her and that that fucking sets him off he rips his fucking hand off the wall he's like what'd he say he's like her tastes are varied like so he just fucking burned her like but she don't like freaks Yes, she don't date freaks. She don't date gay guys.
01:57:54
Speaker
a all What if that's all it took? was He was like, what are you, gay? And he fucking...
01:58:04
Speaker
Yeah, dude. He fucking starts punching him and he gets distracted. So Stratt gets the fucking. So he has to swing out and save her. This is the superhero moment.
01:58:17
Speaker
Spider-Man.
01:58:20
Speaker
Definitely Spider-Man moment. this where Sam Raimi's like, if I shoot this scene someday, they might offer me a Spider-Man movie. You know, you could actually probably watch this movie and then go straight into watching Spider-Man and you could be like, yep, I see everything, you know?
01:58:38
Speaker
and The whole fucking time he's swinging on that cable, Strack is just blasting rivets at him, laughing. He's like... yeah
01:58:50
Speaker
What perfect asshole. He's making a machine gun noise with his laughs. He's like... he's me
01:59:06
Speaker
He's making machine gun sounds. He's like...
01:59:15
Speaker
he's like uh yeah he's like a grown 11 year old ah yeah he's fucking great though he's a really good villain and it's funny because the whole movie you think durant is like the evil twisted one but it turns out that louis is he's the crazy one yeah yeah I was banging your chick.
01:59:42
Speaker
Buddy swings back towards him and kicks him off the fucking building, but he grabs him by his ankle right before he falls. And he's still talking shit the whole time Oh, yeah.
01:59:55
Speaker
He's... a You can't do it. He's like, go ahead, drop me. You can't. Go ahead.
02:00:07
Speaker
Do it. Do it, Westlake. But think of this. You let me die, and you become as bad as me, worse.
02:00:19
Speaker
You can't. I know you too well. Dropping me, it's not really an option for you. It's not something you can live with.
02:00:42
Speaker
I'm learning to live with a lot of things. like You can't live with yourself. a
02:00:52
Speaker
He's talking shit the whole time. Like, yeah hanging up not an ounce of fucking fear in this guy. Yeah, he don't care. Hanging upside down, held by his ankle, just talking shit.
02:01:04
Speaker
Mm-hmm. he said All the way to the end. He says, you couldn't live with yourself. And we get his... I'm learning to live with a lot of things.
02:01:17
Speaker
And he drops his ass. Fuck yeah, he drops him. What? Drops him good. Wash his hands of it. He's like... How dare you give my girlfriend the elephant?

Darkman's New Identity and Journey Continues

02:01:33
Speaker
He's like, yeah.
02:01:38
Speaker
I'm the only one.
02:01:41
Speaker
I've got to live with these sores. Yeah. So they take the elevator back down. him he you know him He gets Julie, takes her back down while they're in the but elevator. She finally gets to look at his fucked up face.
02:01:54
Speaker
See him for who we really what he's turning into. he's ah he which during this, you know, when um once they get to the bottom, because he says, ah he he tells Julie that he's changed and can live with the way he is now, but no one else can. And Julie calls out to him when he's walking away, and he turns around and says, Peyton is gone. You know, because she's calling for Peyton.
02:02:21
Speaker
What he should have said was, this is all your fault, bitch. Fuck
02:02:31
Speaker
You're fucking welcome. yeah I'm sorry, but if you were that up if you were that upset about somebody like ah ah Louis Strack banging her, wait till you see what she gets next because she's not going to stop.
02:02:46
Speaker
It only took her a month or so. Yeah. what Yeah, for something that traumatizing, absolutely. Yeah, you just gave each other a pass. She's like, fuck yeah, I'm gonna go get fucking... it ah She's gonna get all kinds of elephants.
02:03:04
Speaker
She's gonna go ruin somebody else's life. She's gonna get pink elephants, brown elephants, black elephants, yellow elephants.
02:03:14
Speaker
Gonna go get some pink eye. Yeah, you know, let somebody fart in her pillows.
02:03:23
Speaker
ah And she doesn't notice when she goes when she goes out on the street looking for him. She doesn't notice because all of a sudden he's this young, handsome Bruce Campbell.
02:03:38
Speaker
She's like, no, too sexy, too sexy. It'd be funny if like in the other ones, he came back around, you know, if Bruce Campbell did it and came back around just to like date her again as a different person yeah get her back and meet in like show somebody documents in her life that they're not supposed to see. Yeah.
02:04:00
Speaker
He, he, got he, the next movie is just a revenge story on her. Yeah. Groovy. Groovy.
02:04:10
Speaker
You know there'd be all kinds of shit like that. yeah Good, bad, I'm the guy with the gun. Yeah. It'd be Darkman with a shotgun. it would basically be It would basically be Hobo with a shotgun. Yeah. start with the shotgun long Long before Hobo with a shotgun was ever a thing. It'd be like, I think this movie's copying off Darkman 2.
02:04:39
Speaker
Yeah. Call me Darkman. Call me Darkman. Call me Darkman. Call me Darkman. Yeah. Set the plane down gently.
02:04:51
Speaker
Set me down gently. What another incredible movie. And we love you, Sam Raimi. We're not. We're just having some fun.
02:05:02
Speaker
Having a go. Yeah, Sam Raimi's in... No one's safe. Sam Raimi's in my top four or five directors. Absolutely. Definitely. We were fans of his long before the Spider-Man movies.
02:05:17
Speaker
and I'd totally leave ah leave a marshmallow on his front porch as well if we ever went by his house. i highly recommend this movie, and we're trying to... we're We're getting back into doing some horror here, especially with October coming up.
02:05:34
Speaker
Yeah, we're we're coming right back into it. so Yeah, so look forward to that, because I'm excited for it. I love the... You were saying earlier this was a good transition wanted to cover, because it's kind of got like a little bit of all the elements in it.
02:05:51
Speaker
Yeah, it's a good it's a good crossover movie because it's not quite horror, but it's by one of our favorite horror directors. And there is a lot of horror elements in it.
02:06:03
Speaker
So it's a good crossover movie. It's good. This is a great movie for somebody that doesn't necessarily like horror, but just wants to see a good Sam Raimi movie.
02:06:14
Speaker
Mm-hmm. Yeah, it's fun, man, all the way around. is fantastic. but It's a go from the moment you you hit play. yeah Yeah, definitely. But I'm pretty excited about what we're doing next week and obviously in October because Halloween, man, that is the best month. It's coming.
02:06:36
Speaker
ah best mon coming on so It's coming. Halloween gonna take that elephant. But if if you have any, if anyone has any suggestions for something we should do for Halloween, because I think we pretty much have our picks, but I'm open to suggestions.
02:06:59
Speaker
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