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When Evil Lurks 2023
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This episode, we’re diving headfirst into When Evil Lurks, the Argentinian shockwave that’s been haunting festival circuits and rattling seasoned horror fans. It’s a film that asks: what happens when possession isn’t a secret battle of wills, but a contagion—spreading like disease, infecting the land, and warping the rules of survival?
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Introduction and Macabre Jokes
00:00:24
Speaker
Welcome to Dead Notes, a horror and cult film podcast. I am Kevin, and with me is the only man that I would want to pull my rotting body out of a bed.
00:00:35
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Are you, are has rigor mortis set in at this point? I think so. You have angel lust? I'd say. You have angel lust point? With my nasty sheets, yeah, all shredding in your hands as you're trying to pull. That's some dirty ass underwear.
00:00:50
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Hi. I'm meowing.
Analysis of 'When Evil Lurks'
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Speaker
And we're talking about my favorite movie in a long time, When Evil Lurks, from 2023. We are in the future. but By far the most recent movie.
00:01:07
Speaker
Yeah, and the most fucking serious movie I think we fucking covered. Yeah, there's not a drop of... Well, I mean, unironically, there is some... ah I think Pee-Wee's Big Adventure was a pretty serious movie.
00:01:25
Speaker
Yeah. Phoebe. I think Brain Candy was pretty serious. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, but this one, this one, holy shit, what a fucking ride, and I will definitely agree. it is, it's, it's gotta be an iconic movie right now. I mean, it's,
00:01:44
Speaker
Probably got one of the most interesting tales of like possession. I think, I mean, it rivals it's up there next to exorcist in my opinion. I mean, as far as like from exorcist to now, I would say like, you know, it's, it's a, you know what I'm saying? Like, it's just, the story is just so different, you know, than what you're used to and typical like possessed movies.
00:02:11
Speaker
Well, yeah, because they kind of took, ah they went with the Sam Raimi route with ah Evil Dead, where the church doesn't get involved. You know, there's no, there's
Damien Rugna and Damian Solomon's Collaboration
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nothing, the church isn't coming to save you in this movie. it's It's, ah as they say a few times, God is dead.
00:02:33
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Yeah, they yeah. And the churches are dead. Yeah, everything's done, dude. It's, it's, yeah, it's something else. Incredibly shot. Like, your eyes are glued from start to finish. I mean, it doesn't really, it doesn't really let you get comfortable. You know, it just puts you right in it.
00:02:54
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Oh, yeah, the pacing is yeah better than anything I've seen in a long time. I mean, starts it starts right from the first minute of the movie. You're in there, and it just keeps going.
00:03:07
Speaker
And just keeps turning up, too. Yeah, they go from one bad situation to the next. But, um you know, ah speaking of Evil Dead, Damien Rugna, I think you say his last name is Rugna. I've been saying Rugna, but.
00:03:23
Speaker
We're probably going to mispronounce a lot, so it's okay. Well, his best friend, one of his best friends that he's known since he was six years old is Damian Solomon, the guy that played Jimmy in this
Impact of Violent Scenes
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movie.
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And so they're kind of like a Sam Raimi and Bruce Campbell duo here. yeah They came up and Ruggna was a director and Solomon became an actor.
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and now as adults are doing movies together. Yeah, that's cool. He's in all his... He's in just about every movie he makes, Damien Solomon. He was ah one of the leads in Terrified.
00:04:01
Speaker
Okay, yeah. And he was the That's a fucking excellent movie, too. Oh, yeah. that that's ah That's his other big studio movie, which I highly recommend. Yeah, it's all paranormal.
00:04:15
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and But I swear both of these movies are in like the same world because you'll see it. Well, to me, When Evil Lurks is a 10 out of 10 for me.
00:04:28
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I know there's there's issues people will have with it because it ignores some taboos, you know? Mm-hmm. And because no one's safe in this movie.
00:04:40
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if
Parenthood and Film Perception
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you If you're squeamish about child violence, this may not be the movie for you. It's brutal. ah But he does. On the same note, and we'll get into that later on, like when I was watching it, like, you know, I had a switch flip when my kid was born, you know what I'm saying? And like certain things I can't.
00:05:04
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Like just certain violent movies, I can't so much handle like I used to You know what I'm saying? Like, it's weird. It's a weird thing to describe. But this movie, even with those scenes, it like, you're like, oh, fuck. And then right after you're saying, oh, fuck, you're like,
00:05:27
Speaker
Oh, well, that's just fucking weird. You know what I'm saying? Like, it's just, it's, it's weird how many emotions it like pulls from you like at once in, in like seconds of a scene, you know what I'm saying? Like, it's, it's crazy.
00:05:42
Speaker
well I don't know if that makes any sense, but... yeah I would say up top that go watch this movie because it's fairly recent. Watch it before you listen to this because i'd hate cause we're going to spoil the shit out of it, obviously. yeah But um I will say about the kid violence...
Sequel and Film Rights Discussion
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and there's It's nothing sexual, so don't worry about that. And it's filmed in a way where is it will seem more disturbing the first time you watch it than it actually is because it it like happens so fast and a lot of it is off screen or out of focus. So it's not as bad as it is. Some of it is, yeah. Some of it is.
00:06:30
Speaker
Yeah. Well, yeah. But um we were also talking about the potential of a sequel, right? That would be amazing. Well, I was fortunate enough, and Kevin heaven ah told me about this, because I didn't even know it was a thing, but Second Sight put out the collector's edition for this movie.
00:06:55
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And, you know, it's so hard to find anything about this film because for some reason it's just not very popular. It was a successful movie because it was low budget.
00:07:08
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So it's for what it is. It's a real very successful horror movie. But. AMC and Shudder, Shudder got involved early on, and that's kind of how they got
Rugna's Musical Ventures
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this movie financed.
00:07:21
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Yeah, because that's where it was on for like ever. and think it still is Yeah, it's still on there. but um AMC owns Shudder, so AMC has owns the copyrights to this movie.
00:07:34
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So Damien Ruggna told AMC, he said, please don't let some idiot remake this or make a sequel. Let me do it. Yeah. Right. So and they're into it. And that is the plan right now. He said, while you're watching the movie, they might already be filming the sequel.
00:07:55
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Sweet. And that's in the, I haven't seen that anywhere, but in the collector's edition, he mentions that in the interview with him, that they're, he said they're either going to let him do it or he he'll be fired by the time we're watching this.
00:08:13
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He said either they'll let me do it or they'll fire me by the time you're seeing this. That's awesome. Well, that's great, but it does suck that that's the way Hollywood and everything works out, where you kind of, to get your art made, you have to have somebody else finance it, but then they own it.
00:08:33
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Yeah, that's how that is. Just like soundtracks, like there's always that talk. like For instance, like on the Crow soundtrack, Thrill Kill Cult song, what was it, After the Flesh?
00:08:44
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like That's like that's on what is it? The fucking album. One of the other albums, but it's a completely different version because they had to sell a certain version of that song because they would no longer own the rights to that song.
00:09:00
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It gets crazy how that works out, but. Yeah, it sucks. I mean, nowadays, nowadays, at least for music, you can mostly just release it yourself.
00:09:11
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Yeah. Yeah. With films, it takes it takes a, uh, like There's a lot of fingers. There's a lot of fingers in it. A director doesn't make a movie by himself. It takes a whole bunch of people.
00:09:24
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And to do that, you need a whole bunch of money. Yep. Absolutely. Also, um one more thing, I suppose. ah I sent Kevin the Damien Ruggna's
Film Reception and Subversion of Tropes
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metal band.
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Yeah. ah Yeah. They're called Pasco 637. um But the only reason I mention that is because ah they actually do a cover of a song called When Evil Lurks.
00:09:57
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that's where he got That's kind of where he got the name for this movie. And it plays over the ending credits of this movie. that's ah That's Damien Ruggna's band playing over the credits.
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He's the rhythm guitar player.
00:10:27
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Just something I thought I would mention because I appreciate it because, you know, it's not too often anymore that actual horror fans make horror movies and Damien Ruggna is a metalhead and a horror fan.
00:10:41
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Every interview you see with him, he's got a horror t-shirt on. Yeah. I hate... I love it. yeah Right, right. And, uh... you know and the I don't know. I could go on forever, but I'll just stop and we can we can but you can talk about this movie because I'm in love with it.
00:11:03
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Yeah. That's pretty awesome. It's firmly in my top ten in climbing. Mm-hmm. It's obviously never going to beat out Dawn of the Dead 1978 for different reasons, but it's probably going to end up being in my top five. and Another thing I suppose I should mention is when you watch this, be prepared.
00:11:27
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You have to read because it's subtitled. Don't watch a stupid English dub of it, which I don't think exist i don't think that exists yet, but don't do it.
00:11:38
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Yeah, if you're not a fan of reading the reading subtitles and like at all, but I would definitely say if you had to try to give a subtitled movie a shot, definitely let it be this one, because there's so much happening, and it'll keep you like locked in no matter what, and you'll just absorb it.
00:11:57
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You won't even realize you're... Well, it goes by so fast. Yeah. And... um and And there's it's not heavy on dialogue because that's another thing I like about this movie. There's no exposition dumps until the third act. And even then, it's a real small little... It's sparse.
00:12:17
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Yeah. Yeah.
Themes of Demon Possession
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Like, the movie stays ahead of the viewer. You know, like, when you normally watch a movie... especially slashers and shit, like, we know things that the actors don't.
00:12:28
Speaker
Mm-hmm. You know, we know that Jason's hiding behind this, or that Jason's sneaking up. In this movie, we know what the actors know. We get introduced to things as they're seeing it.
00:12:40
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So... Yeah, we're in it you're in it right along with him, man. You're like, what the fuck? Right, there's no stupid jump scares. It just builds the tension. he's He's such a master. at ah It's not... It's like... um It's hard to explain. It's like... It's just his way of filmmaking. it You have to watch Terrified, too. I don't know.
00:13:04
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I don't know. I'm just an idiot that loves this movie. Yeah. ah It's a good one.
00:13:16
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Yep. So, uh, I'll stop rambling this time. real This time for reals but real for real, for reals where evil works.
00:13:26
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Here we go. when you said where evil the man's mispronouncing the goddamn title of the movie yeah i already started usually this happens like the quarter of the way and i'll mispronounce something i'm firing off strong where it's gotta be that way we're looking be lurk and ah where you be where you be lurking where where you be lurking yeah where where did he be lurking Where did he be lurking?
00:13:58
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Where did he be lurking? Where do he be lurking? Where do he be lurking? Put all that baby oil.
00:14:10
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Oh, shit. All right.
00:14:14
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Yep, I'll just, uh, when the movie starts, it just, you got gunshots in the distance, right? Yeah. and you see And you see Pedro looking out the window, and and it it sets it up so quick, because he's just like, what the fuck was that? and Yeah. you know You know, and, uh,
00:14:35
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that Then it just says they'll go search at dawn, and then you get the title card already. You know, it's just it's just a couple gunshots to set You just open up, like, you just woke up in their life, like, basically. and Right.
00:14:49
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Yeah. It's like, here's this. Go look and go find out what the hell's going on. And that sets up the movie. It's literally, like, about five minutes, if that.
00:15:01
Speaker
Mm-hmm. then ah you're in. Right, then you're in because because right after you see the title of the movie, they're walking through, which is a cool, they do like the cool overhead shot and everything. other This movie is fucking beautiful.
Plot Points and Societal Commentary
00:15:18
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like yeah especially Especially towards the the last half of the second act, you know, when they are lighting everything with candles. It's just, oh man.
00:15:28
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Yeah, and that's only the light that you have. Yeah, it's awesome. But this is like the first time. yeah right I mean, and it's right away. So really, yeah, it's going to be the first time. But this, you get an idea of how used to this kind of life they are because they find a body ah in the woods.
00:15:48
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Mm hmm. they head out to right off their ri while They head out to look for the gunshots and the body the body they find has been fucking mutilated and they're just like, oh, there's a body.
00:16:01
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yeah Yeah, that scene, that's one of the ones I was talking about where I was like, that's gotta be like the cleaner, but why is he mutilated? you know You're like, what the fuck? And they're just like, okay.
00:16:13
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Well, then you find out later why he was mutilated. Yeah. But at this point, you're like, what the fuck? And they're like, OK. And they just keep moving.
00:16:25
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but Yeah, it's one of their breadcrumbs because they look through his belongings, you know, his chest of steampunk cosplay. Yeah. He has his outfit for the for the fest.
00:16:37
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He's got all all the... I am assuming it's a he. I mean, all we see is the legs and part of a hand. Yeah. it's Yeah, it's bits and pieces. But those are men's jeans.
00:16:50
Speaker
And it's got a belt on. Yeah. I will just say that's a guy. But he's he's got his steampunk cosplay chest. and there Yeah. But among that shit, they find ah Pedro finds the...
00:17:06
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the notes and stuff that the cleaner, which we don't know at this point, but that's what they call a cleaner in this movie, which is, I suppose, an exorcist and and like the equivalent of an exorcist in this movie.
00:17:18
Speaker
They're outside the church, yeah. They're the only ones that can that know how to drive away the demon correctly. Yeah, they know how to kill the rot correctly. Yeah, the rotten, yeah. Yeah.
00:17:34
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But they see a note in it with an ID picture of Maria Elena, we find out. So they go to her house. you know It's just breadcrumbs at this point.
00:17:48
Speaker
Which, we're probably ten minutes into the movie at this point, and yeah we they show up at Maria Elena's house, and she says, um he asks if she heard the gunshots the night before, and she says she did, and they thought that it was...
00:18:06
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ah he asked her something like, if you've been ah have you been expecting anybody? And they said, yeah, she she's been expecting a cleaner to kill her son, Uriel.
00:18:17
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right and But they've been waiting a fucking year for him to show up, yeah. Yeah, because this is like ah you know it's it's this is the little bit of commentary this movie has where it's just how the government is just like, fuck them poor people. you know they and don't take it They don't take their calls for help seriously.
00:18:39
Speaker
Yeah. That's his little bit of commentary, and it was about like how they were spraying pesticides in around the yeah countryside in Argentina and making all the...
Character Dynamics and Gruesome Scenes
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Killing everything and hurt and kill making everybody sick.
00:18:56
Speaker
Yeah, and the government didn't give a shit. That's kind of what inspired him to write this movie, but that yeah it's not heavy-handed. You only... You get little bits of that throughout the movie. Mm-hmm. But they finally see Boomer.
00:19:09
Speaker
Holy shit, it's Bigfoot! Yeah, the Boomer. Oh, man. You can smell this fucking room. Like, as soon as they walk in she brings them in, and you see Uriel, dude. That's a huge bit holy shit like it is wearing Kevin's underwear you know when they when they go to pull them out and that sheet it's just rot you know the sheets just plus and rot and it just shreds it reminds me of that always sunny where they fucking the one dude was when they were doing their high school reunion
00:19:46
Speaker
And they get him, he's like, I've been waiting to do this a long time. And he goes to give Charlie a wedgie and the fucking, it just rots. And he's like, oh
00:20:01
Speaker
Oh yeah, dude. It's so brutal, but yeah. Uriel is so nasty, dude. It's so gross. Yeah, if you've played Left 4 Dead, Uriel looks just like a boomer from Left 4 Dead. Yeah.
00:20:13
Speaker
It is. like The makeup is incredible. Like, he is just filled with sores just everywhere, and he's pussy. Like, every time he moves, yeah, every time he moves his mouth, the little bits or anything, there's, like, puss that leaks out. It's, like, he's literally about to burst.
00:20:30
Speaker
It's so fucking nasty. Yeah. Yep, Uriel is what in this movie they call a rotten, which is like a, it's what demons gestate inside of, right? They possess people and use them as kind of like ah shells to give birth to them, a demon. i I'm trying to think of a good way to explain it. It's like like ah they use a human almost like a cocoon.
00:21:03
Speaker
Yeah, yeah, um yeah, burrow. And then i yeah that's how they come to come to life. Yeah. And so like um he's able to talk to them because he starts taunting.
00:21:16
Speaker
Well, he starts talking shit to him as he does. Every time you see Uriel, he's talking shit. yeah Oh yeah, he's talking shit to them the whole time. And um also, if... ah clearly See, the way they gotta kill them correctly is so if they don't, this is what we're trying to learn because they say to each other at some point too, like, we can't just kill them, you know, because if so, it'll spread.
00:21:42
Speaker
Right? like wow Like a plague, correct? No, like no no it's already spreading. right What happens when you kill them is that is how the demon will be born. Oh, okay. That's, they don't want to bring, okay. that Okay. That makes sense. That's what I, that's another thing I got kind of lost on. I thought that like, if they didn't kill him correctly, that it would just go rampant.
00:22:03
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You know what I'm saying? Like, yeah Yeah, they explain that later where like ah things just start, it turns everything up to 10 because that's kind of like the the last trimester.
00:22:15
Speaker
Oh, yeah. everything's Because it's getting to the point where he's about to just... Because once the human dies naturally, then the demon can come out of it. And he's at full growth or whatever. he keeps him alive for as long as possible.
00:22:31
Speaker
But it can be born instantly if you kill the yeah host. but um And it's vulnerable. That's what the cleaners do, is they're there to kill it before it can be born.
00:22:45
Speaker
that's why it wants to be That's why it wants you to kill the host, so it can get out of there before somebody does something. yeah yeah It's kind of just waiting around.
00:22:56
Speaker
But it's it's handled so well. it's so There's like rules set up in this in this movie of things. like You can't use electric lights because the demons move around in the shadows from it.
00:23:11
Speaker
Shit like that. and they And you see a little bit of that later on. But we ah you also get introduced to a pivotal character sure that you don't know yet. I believe yeah his name is Eduardo.
00:23:24
Speaker
Yeah. Uriel's younger brother. Yeah. Or he could be his older brother. I'd love to see, you know, if they make a sequel for this, I'd love to see what Uriel looked like before he was infected because holy shit, man. Yeah.
Building Tension and Disturbing Elements
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Speaker
He's he's a brutal. just all a puss at this point. Yeah, he's just, dude, it's like if you move him, and it shows, I mean, they fucking haul him out. And put him in the back of a fucking truck. But that's that nasty scene, dude, where they were pulling him out by that sheet. And it's just, hey this sheet is just saturated underneath with just pus and, you know, all of his bed sores and gangrenous.
00:24:02
Speaker
And the sheet just is like liquefied, dude. It's so fucking nasty. And what they, he hits the stairs too, I think. Right. That's when it rips or something like the fucking nasty.
00:24:14
Speaker
Well, I'll catch us up to that, because Pedro and Jimmy try to tough talk to the police, tell the police about it, and their're base they don't believe him, nor do they give a shit.
00:24:24
Speaker
Yeah, they don't give a flying fuck. You can tell because it cuts to them, and they're like, whatever, dude. Yeah. so So giving up with them, they go to visit Ruiz Armando, yeah who owns the property that Maria lives on.
00:24:40
Speaker
yeah go So it's his problem because Uriel is on his property. there's a There's a rotten on my property! Oh shit, hold up.
00:24:55
Speaker
There's some fat pussy fuckface on my property! ah a big bitch? That's a huge bitch. That's a huge bitch.
00:25:07
Speaker
But yeah, so they visit Ruiz and Ruiz goes to he's he tells them forget about it. and Don't tell anybody because he's convinced that the state is just that the state planted him there to devalue his property so they could drive him out of it.
00:25:23
Speaker
You know? Yeah. Yeah. But it bugs the shit out of him. So he goes and visits Uriel on his own. That's a big bitch.
00:25:34
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ah That's a huge bitch. That's huge bitch.
00:25:41
Speaker
ah That's a huge bitch. But he's putting a shotgun on him already. It's like... they're the ah that's the thing about this movie. Nobody fucking listens.
00:25:52
Speaker
Nobody listens. and He's like, fuck that dude, shoot this motherfucker. Yeah, it's like, and they're standing there telling him, don't shoot him. If you shoot him, you'll die. Yeah, exactly.
00:26:05
Speaker
So, uh, Pedro is a bad guy, basically. He's, he's a bad person that's trying to do good things. Yeah. Ruiz tells him, uh,
00:26:20
Speaker
you know, he gets him to help with, which if he would have just left it alone, right? If Ruiz would have just left it alone and got a cleaner in there, which I understand they said that another cleaner probably wouldn't show up for another year. And Pedro was worried about Uriel dying because if he dies, they're screwed anyway.
00:26:41
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. You're fucked either way. Really? But Ruiz's idea, he's like, why don't we take this fat fuck and drop him off in someone else's town? Make him their problem.
00:26:52
Speaker
That's right. Dude, I was like, damn, dude. He's like, fuck this fat bitch. Get him out of my house. Get him off my property.
00:27:05
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ah Get him out of my property. Yeah.
00:27:10
Speaker
yeah But this is this is the scene Kevin's been talking about when they load his fat ass up onto the truck. Oh, dude. Good lord. When they fucking drop him the first time, when they try to pick him up off the bed, and they drop him beside the bed, and fucking snot and goo just starts blasting out of his mouth.
00:27:30
Speaker
Dude. Ugh. It's like a giant they like they're trying to move around this giant fat pimple. Yeah. It's brutal, dude. It's so brutal.
00:27:42
Speaker
But yeah, they're carrying him out and on with on a sheet. Because Ruiz says, get a rope, we'll drag him out there like a pig. yeah Which I think is what they should have done.
00:27:54
Speaker
Yeah, just tie him up. yeah Yeah, they carry him out whether they they care em about carry him out with a sheet, and it splits open, and he drops him on the ground outside of the little house. so So Ruiz yells at Eduardo and makes him get him a blanket, then it cuts to them. load you know He's all wrapped up, and they are they're loading him on.
00:28:18
Speaker
I bet Uriel weighs a good 500 pounds. Yeah. yeah it's like It's like, imagine trying to lift a 500 pound water balloon. Yeah. And he's just talking shit the whole time.
00:28:31
Speaker
Yeah, he's like, why don't you guys kill me? Come on. and Come on. It'll make it easier. What are you, gay? What are you, gay?
00:28:44
Speaker
You were a pussy? You a pussy ass head? Ruiz is like, i ain't gay, man. We'll see who's gay.
00:28:56
Speaker
We're going drop you off across the tracks over there. We're going to throw you out in a different town, fat boy.
00:29:11
Speaker
Oh, that's just so funny. ah ah Yeah, and there ah so it shows them driving down the road, and this is one of the only scenes where I i could see there being like, what the fuck just happened? ah you know I could see somebody having a problem with this, because yeah, I was like, a 500 pound fat ass falls out the back of your truck and you don't notice it.
00:29:33
Speaker
Yeah, that shit is crazy though, and Because the little kid is in the street, and... yeah
00:29:41
Speaker
And we see that little kid later, but, uh, potentially he was being controlled by Uriel to run in front of the truck.
00:29:52
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because Yeah, we see something like that later on, too, with the other kids as well. Yeah. But, uh, but, you know, yeah so they stopped the car, and, uh,
00:30:05
Speaker
Pedro rightfully is yelling at Jimmy because he was supposed to be watching to make sure Uriel didn't fall out of the truck, but he's like you know they're arguing about him almost hitting a kid. and Not only that, but Uriel's fucking gone, bro. like He's like, yeah took off.
00:30:21
Speaker
Yeah. I want to see that from a different angle. I want to see Fatboy running across. He's like, you stupid bitches. there should be a big splat of like brown slime and shit where he hit the ground.
00:30:36
Speaker
Yeah. Big snail trail. ah Yeah. Fucking snail trail where like how many kids do you think it would take to drag him off the
Character Development and Emotional Stakes
00:30:45
Speaker
street? Jesus. Oh, dude. It'd take a whole fucking class.
00:30:49
Speaker
I assume he rolled into a ditch, but Ruiz, rightfully so, is like, fuck him. Yeah? Yeah.
00:30:58
Speaker
Not our problem. Ruiz up to this point is like, fuck him, right? Yeah, that's that's pretty much what they did. They were like, alright, let's fucking go.
00:31:10
Speaker
But he immediately pays for that. Yeah, absolutely. Because the next fucking day, Yamana, I'm gonna say Yamana. Yeah.
00:31:20
Speaker
i'm going to say germa ah
00:31:24
Speaker
We hear her yelling outside. and This is like the iconic scene of the movie where it's not quite as disturbing as it gets so far. So they use this for the cover of the movie.
00:31:36
Speaker
Yeah, this scene's pretty brutal, though. Yeah, well, it's fucking sweet how they set it up, though, because he, like, um she's yelling for him, and he runs out there, and she points into the middle of the goats, and we don't see it yet.
00:31:51
Speaker
You know, they don't show it. Until he fires his shotgun in the air to scare all the goats away, and one of them stays. Yep. Man. But the way the camera comes up behind his head where the horns line up.
00:32:05
Speaker
Fucking awesome. Yeah. Yeah. and Yeah, dude, that whole seed suite. And you're like, oh, fuck. Because what, like, basically what's happened now, since it's been another day of gestation and everything, like the demons is just getting more powerful, right?
00:32:21
Speaker
And that's what's controlling so much. Yeah, well, he he carried some, like, it's releasing its essence. Yeah, anything anytime you get anything on you, it just follows you, because that's what we see throughout the movie.
00:32:35
Speaker
Yeah, because basically... Like a plague. and It's like a plague. Right, yeah, it's like a plague. Because basically the clothes that Ruiz has on, has that he brought back to his house with him, is already quote-unquote infected Yeah, he's got Uriel jizz all over him.
00:32:53
Speaker
Yeah, he's got Uriel brown jizz. You gotta see a doctor, boy. yeah yeah I don't think jizz is supposed to be brown. and why is Why is it in his mouth? What has Eduardo been doing? yeah Why is your pipes rusty?
00:33:13
Speaker
ah Eduardo's been bukkake-ing Uriel at night. they They've been using that cock box. Yeah, the cock block.
00:33:24
Speaker
Yeah, the cock block.
00:33:28
Speaker
Yep. Look that up. Yeah, cock block. Cock block sex toy. But when when he points the gun at the goat and the goat walks up to the shotgun and puts his head, forehead against the shotgun, that's kind of the point where I was like, okay, I'm all in. This is fucking awesome.
00:33:49
Speaker
It is an awesome fucking thing. Yeah. And he's like, okay, fuck you, you know, because you don't give a shit, you know, and and it's fucking crazy. Yeah, the goat is taunting him.
00:34:00
Speaker
It's like, come on, homo. You don't have the balls. Told you you were gay.
00:34:09
Speaker
Yemena said that when she has sex with you, it's a
00:34:19
Speaker
You're bad in bed.
00:34:23
Speaker
You're bad at eating chocha. Oh, shit.
00:34:32
Speaker
oh shit You know, if Sam Raimi directed this, the goat would say that. Yeah.
00:34:39
Speaker
Yeah. Sam Raimi and get Sylvester Stallone as like a advisor. He'd be like, why don't why don't you make the goat say he's like gay or something? And Sam Raimi's like, that's a good idea, Sylvester.
00:34:55
Speaker
Let's go. ah Sounds like a great idea, Sylvester. Sylvester.
00:35:05
Speaker
Why do we bust all of our favorite director's balls so much? Well, Sylvester Stallone's not. Well, gravy He's not even close. It's so funny. Yeah. ah But this is the... ah So the goat's taunting Ruiz. You can explain this scene if you'd like, Kevin. This is the... Oh, yeah. This scene's fucking sweet. like So, yeah, he fucking blasts the goat, and then...
00:35:34
Speaker
His wife comes up behind him. And like fucking. Plains him with the axe right. And then. He just fucking starts going to town on him.
00:35:46
Speaker
Right. No she only hits him once. Yeah. yeah And then she pulls and turns the axe on herself. And starts fucking. Bashing her face in with it. And it's.
00:35:57
Speaker
In fucking credible. You're like holy fuck dude. Yeah, and and it's kind of like, but it suits the tone of the movie, because the way he frames the shot from the side when she's hitting herself in the face with the axe. Like, she's not hitting herself with the blunt end, she's hitting herself with the sharp end, right in her own face.
00:36:21
Speaker
It's just, dude, it's so brutal. Yeah. but but But the way he frames the shot is to kind of show you like what you're in for, because the thing we haven't mentioned yet that you see clearly when it shows her from the side is Yamena is pregnant.
00:36:37
Speaker
Yep. So this is a pregnant woman that just killed her husband and then chopped her own face with an axe. Yep. that's the movie were and That's the movie you're watching right now. You're getting introduced to some brutality. Yeah.
00:36:53
Speaker
And that kind of, ah you know, after that, um you know, it has like a small transition scene, but you kind of see Pedro and Jimmy at their house and they start noticing weird shit too.
00:37:06
Speaker
Yeah. like ah Jimmy sees the shadows of the antler moving and Pedro's trying to smoke a cigarette and a window keeps closing on him. He has to block it open.
00:37:19
Speaker
He has to block it open, which doesn't seem like a big deal. It's just there to tell you that something's not right. Yeah, there's something there with them.
00:37:30
Speaker
Yeah, especially since they still have it all over their clothes. but yeah You're still gay, I see. Why don't you just tell them that they don't like women?
00:37:43
Speaker
Right after they see this shit, Eduardo shows up. Yep.
00:37:51
Speaker
Because his mother allegedly disappeared, right? Mm-hmm. And ah he's cold and homeless, so he wants that he wants them to let him stay there.
00:38:04
Speaker
And Pedro lets him stay in the in their ah room saddle room. Yeah, the saddle room, yeah. Yeah. But, uh, and Jimmy rightfully so is against us. Like I said, Pedro is just making bad decisions through this whole movie. Yeah.
00:38:20
Speaker
Because Eduardo is not innocent. Yeah. They don't know that though. They just know that he's, they say was like autism or something. and then he's saying that his mom disappeared. So now they're like something really weird is happening right now. You know?
00:38:41
Speaker
Right. But to add to Pedro's list of bad decisions, he says, let's go oh let's go to town, get the kids, and get far away from here.
00:38:52
Speaker
Yeah. Get the fuck out of town. and Right. Well, it's like, you going there put the kids in danger. Yeah. But he didn't know that... You know what I'm saying? i mean, everybody is going to be in danger eventually once the shit got out, you know?
00:39:09
Speaker
but right Right, but it's not um definite. yeah They don't really know what's going on. yeah Yeah, and they all know the rules and everything. This isn't a new thing that's happening. It's, from what I could gather watching a movie, this is something that's been happening for like 40-ish years or so.
00:39:29
Speaker
Yeah, it's like they get these waves of like this plague or something that comes through. Well, and they... And they say it's real popular in the cities, but it's really rare in rural areas. That's why they haven't and encountered it before.
00:39:44
Speaker
Yeah. That's kind of why the police disregard them. They say, oh, you know, a rotten and in this area at the edge of nowhere. Yeah. but We ain't dealing with it. It's not a big deal.
00:39:55
Speaker
Yeah. but and But... And it's keeping it away from their city, too, so... Yeah, yeah. They get, um, but he, but they go to the, they go to, uh, Sabrina, his ex-wife's house, and she's got her new cuck boyfriend, Leonardo.
00:40:15
Speaker
Yeah. He just walks in the house and starts taking his clothes off. It's like, you should have did that earlier. Don't take clothes Because anyone who's stripped, if you've been at work all day and you got a good sweat going on and then you get home and take your clothes off and throw them
Intense Scenes and Psychological Impact
00:40:35
Speaker
on the floor, the dog is going to be you sniffing around in your drawer.
00:40:40
Speaker
Yeah. But that's immediately what happens. The dog's like, something stinks over here. Yeah, he's like, what's this? You know, he's fucking goes and sniffs. And then, you know, he's like, you got to get all the kids. She's the wife's like, that's wife's like still wondering what the fuck's going on. And he's like, I need clothes. She still doesn't know what the fuck's going on, you know? Right.
00:41:03
Speaker
He's trying to tell them, but they're screaming at him the whole time because yeah This is where you get like little bits of information. like She has a restraining order on him, and you're like, well, why the fuck does she have a restraining order on him? What's the story behind this? you know And they explain it later, but ah it's funny because some of the some of the story you get from the demons in this movie, yeah and ah it's like, they're not lying. I mean, they have no reason...
00:41:33
Speaker
when They're just speaking with, yeah, that's and that's what their job is to do. I mean, that's how they get to you, you know? Yeah. But we find out later that Pedro tried to kill himself and his sons.
00:41:49
Speaker
That's what all this drama is about. Yeah. You know, um and that's why she thinks he is calling him a lunatic. Get the fuck out of my house, rightfully so. Right, we after we know that, yeah, because right now he's just a shovel, ripping his clothes off in the front in their house.
00:42:04
Speaker
ah yeah Yeah. Trying to get all the kids to go with them, you know? Yeah, yeah and ah yeah because we get introduced to Jair, who is the autistic boy. Yeah.
00:42:19
Speaker
So if he was in um Tropic Thunder, you know what they'd say about him because the actor here is not is clearly not autistic. Yeah. but he went full autistic in this movie.
00:42:33
Speaker
But until later, you know, because there's because he clearly couldn't pull off a scene he does later if he was in the condition he's pretending to be in. yeah But we also get introduced to little Santino, who might be the cutest little boy ever. yeah And little Vicky.
00:42:51
Speaker
And Vicky. And that comes in into play because they're like the sweet, innocent children. and Damien Rugna is just a mean bastard he got like the two cutest little kids to play his part oh yeah you had to cause it breaks your fucking heart holy shit yep because the ah good boy but good boy that's sniffing Pedro's drawers Roger it's not Roger laughing laughing
00:43:29
Speaker
Yeah, you ate my dog. Yeah, and this is a big-ass dog, man. It's, I don't know what kind of, some kind of weird Mastiff mix or some shit, but he's a big fucking boy.
00:43:39
Speaker
He's a big boy, though. And he goes over and is sitting next to Vicky, you know, and she's like, oh, ha, ha, ha, playing with him and stuff. And then, boom, he fucking... um just grabs her by the head and just starts whipping her around. And, you know and dude, you see her go under the table and she's just here screaming and then do like those weird death rattle fucking noises.
00:44:10
Speaker
i was like, Holy fuck, dude. And of course the, the, what is it? Uh, Santino's screaming on the stairs, you know, Well, see, that's why I said I think the way these shots, ah the way these scenes are shot, you can remember them differently because that is ah Santino doesn't say a word and she doesn't scream. All this is being done in the other room while the parents are arguing in the kitchen. Yeah, it happens quick. Like he grabs her and you just see him drag her off in the other room and then you see her getting dragged under that table in the background and screaming.
00:44:47
Speaker
Well, Santino's standing on the stairs, and he like goes into shock. So he drops he drops his little toy. Yeah, that's right. And the camera follows it down, and you just see Vicky's legs as she's getting dragged away. getting dragged, and the noises, though, is what fucked me up, dude. Goddamn.
00:45:07
Speaker
Well, he's well, that's what I'm like. When he first bites her, he bites her, but then come there's no blood like he grabbed. You don't see any blood. Yeah. screen Yeah. Like the only time you see blood here is when when ah Santino looks under the table, there's blood on the floor, but the body isn't bloody. That's when yeah that's when he sees her like that's when he sees Roger like shaking her body around.
00:45:32
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. It's so fucking brutal. and he finally snaps out of it and starts yelling at the adults. He's like, Roger hurt Vicky. and Yeah. And ah Leonardo, is that his name?
00:45:48
Speaker
The cuck boyfriend? yeah he Yeah, he looked, yeah, leo Leo, I'll say, he looks over chest as Roger is running out the house with his daughter in her fucking mouth. Yep. Holy shit, dude.
00:46:01
Speaker
Holy shit. there holy shit It's rough, dude. It's rough. It's rough. And then, but see, this is the comeback around though.
00:46:14
Speaker
Right? So then out of nowhere, you know, Vicky reappears, you know unharmed, you know, Right, right. Well, Leonardo goes after Roger, and Pedro's begging him not to shoot Roger, but then he walks up on him. it's it's i because i don't They do the same thing here, because I hate animal violence in movies, but when you see Leonardo shooting Roger, it's out of focus. Yeah, you don't know. Yeah.
00:46:47
Speaker
Like, you see a straight-on shot, but before he fires the gun, the the Roger and Leonardo go out of focus, and it focuses back on Pedro. And that's the point where he's like, it's time to get the fuck out of here.
00:47:01
Speaker
Yeah. And again, with how fast... All this shit's happening so fast, but yet you're absorbing just the the a lot of this fucking trauma.
00:47:13
Speaker
it's... For not having to show a lot. Like it painted the pictures in your brain like perfectly. Like yeah brutally, I should say. Brutally.
00:47:25
Speaker
It's one of those things like it has the effect that Texas Chainsaw Massacre has where you can you remember it being gorier than it really is. You just remember how fucked up it was. But then if you really break it down, there's not a lot of gore. It's all psychological. Like it's all the what they what they set up for you what you now would paint, you know.
00:47:48
Speaker
And don't get us wrong, this movie is gory as fuck. It's just, you know, with Vicky's with vicky's um alleged death. Because she shows back up without a scratch on her.
00:48:01
Speaker
yeah And then you're like, oh. but It like takes that shock away for a moment. i was like, oh, she's okay. And it has to be said, Sabrina's acting during this whole scene when Vicky is gone.
00:48:17
Speaker
Sabrina's the the woman who played Sabrina is, I mean, you could swear you were watching a police fucking yeah ah body cam video. The way she's acting.
00:48:29
Speaker
Fucking perfect. yeah Perfect. The way she's just hysterical. yeah Oh, yeah. it's It's beyond words. You know, it's incredible. And Pedro's trying to gather up ah Jair and Santino to get them in the car. and And also, another thing that needs to be said is Jimmy's not involved in any of this because Jimmy dropped Pedro off and Jimmy went to their mother's house and their plan was to meet there, but we don't know that yet.
00:48:57
Speaker
Yeah. So Jimmy hasn't seen anything yet. jimmy Jimmy's seen Uriel and that's it. Yeah. He doesn't know all this other shit's fucking going down. But, uh...
00:49:09
Speaker
But want some once Pedro gets Jair and Santino outside, or a Jair outside, Santino runs up to him and he's like, hey, Vicky's alive. Vicky's great.
00:49:22
Speaker
ah And he looks over and sees Vicky unscathed. you know Pedro looks over and sees that Vicky's unscathed. So he's like, get the fuck in the car. Yeah, get in the car now, yeah.
00:49:34
Speaker
He puts Santino and ah Jair in the car. And ah when they start to drive away, here's Leonardo. oh yeah. Pulling up. Yep.
00:49:47
Speaker
Reappears in the truck and smashes. While Sabrina is holding Vicky in her arms. Smashes them both in the fucking building. Yeah. Yep.
00:49:58
Speaker
And his airbag, you know, he's laying there. Everybody runs up to the truck, they're like, are you all right? And he looks up from his airbag with blood all over his face, and he sees Vicky dancing around and celebrating.
00:50:11
Speaker
Yeah. Yep. It's fucked, dude. It's so fucked. Oh, and right before he hits her with the truck, Vicky tells her mother, Sabrina, she's like, Dad is going to kill you.
00:50:23
Speaker
Yep. That's right. Yeah, she's like... She's like, he's going to take the truck and boom. Yeah. Like, Jesus Christ. Yeah. it's It's so much, dude. And like, at this point, like, you're you're fucking, you have to buckle up for the rest of it. I mean, you're in at this point.
00:50:43
Speaker
Like, so even ah even if this whole series of events, like, you're like, I can't
Storytelling and Emotional Resonance
00:50:48
Speaker
go on. and You have to, because it's it's just, this is where you have to just keep going.
00:50:54
Speaker
Because it's an incredible movie. like And you get a little relief at the end anyway, because you see Vicky just dancing around and laughing. and you know If that's the relief you want, because in the context of the movie, she's a demon at that point.
00:51:11
Speaker
Mm-hmm. But Pedro heyedro goes to pick up his mother, Sarah, with Jimmy. And they start heading out, and the mother talks ah tells all the rules, you know.
00:51:27
Speaker
Yeah. to She's in the backseat talking to Santino and kind of rattles off the rules, like, um don't use electric lights, which we've talked about. So stay away from animals, which, too little, too late.
00:51:41
Speaker
Yeah. don't have or take anything that was close to them, like the clothes you were wearing. Yeah. You dummies. Yeah. Don't hurt them, which you kind of fucked up on that too.
00:51:56
Speaker
And she says, ah there's the, don't shoot them with firearms and, uh, never call evil by its name. And she starts rattling off demon names or, you know,
00:52:10
Speaker
And ah there's a seventh rule that they don't know yet, so it's important later, but the last one there that I wrote down, that's not really important yet.
00:52:23
Speaker
It's don't be afraid of dying. Basically, don't don't show fear, which is important because Pedro, the whole reason that they went after Pedro's kids is because he was afraid that they would do that.
00:52:40
Speaker
ah Yeah.
00:52:43
Speaker
If he wasn't afraid of his kids getting possessed, they would have never gotten possessed. That's the gist of it. Right. Kinda. But that makes sense, yeah.
00:52:55
Speaker
Yeah, and they're running out of money and shit, so and gas, so they Jimmy suggests that he knows somebody that can help them. you know you know Wait, he gets a call from his wife, right? Or his ex-wife, and she's dead?
00:53:10
Speaker
yeah Yeah, Sabrina calls him. That shit's fucked up. Yeah. She's like, I was fucking all your friends. She's like, that's why you can't fuck me, right?
00:53:23
Speaker
Poppy?
00:53:26
Speaker
and You are bad in bed. Yeah, you are bad. and Small dick. he so He smashes his mom's phone and she never even mentions it.
00:53:39
Speaker
Yeah. Because because s Sabrina calls his mother's phone, and his mother hands the phone to Santino. And at this point, ah even Jimmy doesn't know that Sabrina is dead.
00:53:53
Speaker
Yeah. Because he wasn't there. each ah He just knows that for whatever reason, Vicky, s Sabrina, and Leonardo are not with him. Yeah. But Vicky isn't Pedro's daughter.
00:54:06
Speaker
Vicky is Leonardo's daughter. Yeah, Leonardo's daughter. boys are Pedro's. But yeah, he smashes the fucking phone and ah she never she never once goes, hey, what'd you do with my phone? and
00:54:25
Speaker
Where's my phone at? Yeah, where's my phone? But Jimmy takes him to his old flames house, Myrtha, who he used to bang, which they don't say straight up, but ah Pedro alludes to it.
00:54:42
Speaker
Yeah. And ah Jimmy all but confirms it. That's the thing, is there's some of quite a few little things that are left up to... interpretation, but Jimmy was banging Myrta.
00:54:57
Speaker
that That is confirmed. And she's like, Jair looks like but like shit. yeah Yeah, she tells Jimmy that Jair looks rotten and yeah jimmys Jimmy's like, nah, man, he's autistic. Yeah.
00:55:19
Speaker
oh
00:55:23
Speaker
she's like that's what I said what I said he's fucked up yeah this next scene coming up though man it's just getting turned up you know but they're all staying there and Sabrina shows up to Murtagh's after everybody's asleep and dude it's just fucking crazy It kind of reminds me of that scene in Terrified. You remember when the ah lady with the head on back, like upside down, runs out to the car?
00:55:57
Speaker
Yeah, dude. that It sounds stupid, but that scene is fucked up. yeah it's so fucking weird man yeah like Jesus Christ yeah it's so fucking weird Sabrina Sabrina follows follows them to the house because uh Pedro is scared of that happening so that's why it happened yep he broke the rule well yeah it's just I mean and that's that's one of those that's almost impossible to not break the don't be afraid yep Jesus Christ
00:56:34
Speaker
Tractor all the way there. Yeah. It cuts away, but we don't see the interaction between Sabrina and Jair, but we ah we find out later that he is he's possessed after this.
00:56:48
Speaker
Mm-hmm. and Sarah, who's on fucking sleeping pills, which I get it. I wouldn't be able to sleep and during this time either. But maybe don't drug yourself when there's demons chasing you.
00:57:01
Speaker
Yeah. Maybe just wait. stupid bitch. Why are you so stupid, stupid? Why you so stupid, stupid lady? Yeah, so we see Sabrina fucking holding Santino, and this only gets better.
00:57:18
Speaker
Oh yeah, little Santino. Yeah. yeah and ah fucking Jimmy wakes Pedro up because he's sleeping out in the car with Jair and he didn't hear Sarah for whatever reason.
00:57:31
Speaker
Or Sabrina. yeah he goes and When he goes inside and goes upstairs, little Santino is in Sabrina's arms and he just looks up at Pedro and goes, Papi!
00:57:42
Speaker
Yeah. And then she jumped yeah then she jumps off the fucking roof or whatever. Yeah. Well, it's the second floor, but still. The second floor, yeah. You got the got the kid in your arms, and she yeah she just trucks it because she disappears. It's like ah Halloween, at the end of Halloween, when Dr. Loomis looks outside. Yeah.
00:58:05
Speaker
and And Michael Myers has fucking sprinted away. Yeah. Fucking out of there. But Myrta has a cleaner kit. Yeah, because she used to be, she's an ex-cleaner.
00:58:19
Speaker
She used to go lot of them steampunk conventions. Yeah, she used to dress She was a madam. It was like a furry convention, but for cleaners, they just had like brass shit all over them, banging each other.
00:58:36
Speaker
i don't know. and don't go to these fucking things. Well, we find, too, that ah Jair's possessed.
00:58:47
Speaker
You know, he's he's he's a rotten. Yeah, because now his hands are all fucked up. Yeah. Which, why is it that his hands would be fucked up? like Is that like the sign or something that he's becoming rotten?
00:59:00
Speaker
Well, Myrta
00:59:04
Speaker
mita says that the rotten that the demon possessed him, but in autistic people, they can't figure out their twisted brains, so they get trapped in there.
00:59:15
Speaker
And that is just a sign of the demon trying to take control of him, but it can't quite do it just yet. Huh? It's trying to figure him out.
00:59:25
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. So that's another thing that kind of flew over me. It's like, oh shit. What the hell do I do? But he he solves that puzzle eventually. yeah Whatever's inside Jair, he figures it out.
00:59:45
Speaker
Mm-hmm. But, uh, Merita Merita says like a lot of the past, like they worked at a church or something and her and her husband and they were frauds and that, um, and the area they were at was the first place that the demons started showing up.
01:00:03
Speaker
Oh yeah. Their church. Yeah. And, um, and she said that, uh, at first she thought it was like people that they had been paying like actors and once they found out it was real and God wasn't helping them, like, some monks taught them how to dispose of the rotten properly, and that's what kind of birthed the whole cleaner thing. Yeah.
01:00:28
Speaker
They just have a process they have to go through to kill the... the demons without releasing it. Yeah. Kill the, kill the body that the demons possess without releasing the demon.
01:00:41
Speaker
Yeah. and and that's kind of, and, um, you can, you, you can watch a scene. Like if you, if you listen, like she says why, but like Pedro and Jimmy split up and cause Pedro wants to go after Santino.
01:00:56
Speaker
Yeah, yeah. And Mirta tells him that because you want to go after him is exactly why you can't, and you must understand why that is.
01:01:06
Speaker
Because if he goes after him, it makes it worse. It empowers the demons, because he's scared of what they're... What's gonna happen, yeah. And Jimmy's not... You know, it's his nephew, but he's not quite as...
01:01:19
Speaker
He really, up to this point, hasn't seen anything. So he's not he's not nearly as frightened as Pedro is at this point. Yeah. And boy, does Jimmy get a fucking good first time.
01:01:33
Speaker
Holy shit, dude. He gets his cherry popped in the worst way possible. Dude, this scene...
01:01:42
Speaker
Yeah, he pulls he pulls up on her, dude, and like she's just walking, and you can see that she's just carrying this little lifeless body from the back, and he gets up on her, dude, and she's totally just eating his head.
01:01:55
Speaker
It's fucking crazy.
01:01:59
Speaker
Well, it has to be said, too, though, this is one of the coolest fucking directed scenes I've ever seen. It's so fucking awesome. the Because he pulls up on her, and you can't quite see what she's doing right away. She's walking all fucked up, and like, yes what oh, it's so weird.
01:02:18
Speaker
You can see she's holding the kid, and you can see that she's wearing like a white robe, and he's driving slow, and he pulls right beside her, and the camera is panning around inside of the car. You kind of see yeah from his view what he's seeing from the car window. Mm-hmm.
01:02:37
Speaker
And... as he gets closer you can see her reaching into his head and just pulling stuff out and eating it yeah and uh and she ignores him when he drives by yeah she doesn't even acknowledge him yeah it's fucking creepy because he and this is the first thing jimmy's seeing other than yuriel at the beginning of the movie yeah absolutely But he backs up the truck, and this is the second time within like 10 minutes that Sabrina gets taken out by a car.
01:03:14
Speaker
Yeah. She gets hit by another fucking car with a different kid in her hand. Yeah. Stupid bitch. Stay out of the fucking road.
01:03:26
Speaker
He's like, You know, I thought one one thing that would be cool, and I know it it'd be in bad taste. Tell me how bad taste this would be.
01:03:37
Speaker
Imagine... ah So, you know how movie theaters have been on this kick for special popcorn buckets? Yeah, I'll do one of... Santino's head.
01:03:48
Speaker
the whole Santino? Yeah.
01:03:53
Speaker
ah of the whole of the whole sanantino yeah Well, and ah if you and if you got it, that you could do like a challenge to watch this movie while eating chili out of it.
01:04:04
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah, that's pretty bad.
Climactic Themes and Character Decisions
01:04:09
Speaker
Santino, get your limited edition Santino popcorn bucket.
01:04:16
Speaker
I mean, it's right there, right? i mean Patent pending, patent pending. Yeah, well, the movie's been out for two years, so... Maybe if they show it at a horror marathon, they'll do that.
01:04:30
Speaker
yeah Make Santino popcorn buckets. Trademark. but Dead Notes 2025. twenty twenty five
01:04:41
Speaker
Oh, shit. Yeah. And this is another part where this all but confirms that Jimmy was banging Sabrina while he was married to Pedro. Yeah. no yeah No one in this movie is innocent because they're alone. It's not like she's saying this to piss him off because there's nobody else around.
01:05:01
Speaker
Because when he hits her with the car, her head is through the fucking car covered in gore. Yeah. And she looks over at him and says, I thought you loved me, Jimmy.
01:05:12
Speaker
While her brains are dripping out of her head. Yeah. Yeah, so jimmy you so Jimmy was banging Pedro's wife. Yeah. Everybody's cracking.
01:05:23
Speaker
And it's weird how all these like little insights to their life just keep sparking up throughout the movie, too. You know? Because we didn't know anything about these people when we first started up.
01:05:35
Speaker
You know? Yeah, I love that i love that um it's kind of... Like, he leaves it fairly vague. I think you probably would have to watch this movie a few times to catch a lot of this stuff.
01:05:47
Speaker
but and it's worth it. Watch it over and over. Buy it. Support it. Wait for part two. Go watch. Make sure you watch this before part two comes out. Yeah.
01:05:58
Speaker
We can all be excited about it. Yeah, absolutely. But this is the next scene is where um the old demon that was inside Jair finally solved that Rubik's Cube.
01:06:12
Speaker
Sure did Because, and I'll tell you all these, um this is another reason I love this movie because, and why don't, I don't typically like possession movies.
01:06:24
Speaker
Because every time a demon gets in somebody, they're like, um i I'm gonna fuck you in your fucking car. You know, yeah all this shit. Jair walks in the living room. of the house of Myrta's house with Sarah sitting on the couch. And he's just like, I'm cold.
01:06:40
Speaker
yeah Can you get a, can you make me some tea or something? You know, he's really polite, but the thing that Sarah, the thing, the reason that the, the thing that's clever about this is It's not spoken of, but the reason Sarah is so fucking terrified is because she has never heard Jair speak.
01:07:04
Speaker
he Right. Or walk around. She just sees her fucking grandson walk in the house and suddenly seems okay. All completely like art articulate and everything, yeah.
01:07:17
Speaker
And she knows what why that is. that's why That's what makes that scene work so well. Because it's not like he doesn't come in and goes, I'm gonna you know start doing like weird fucking walks. He doesn't walk weird or do any goofy shit. He just comes in and says, Would you please make me some tea, mama? Granny?
01:07:36
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Yeah. would you please make me some tea ma brout granny yeah And somehow that is fucking terrifying to her. And I mean, he's like, all right, shit's fucked. Especially since what, uh, Murta said that he's possessed anyway, but yeah.
01:07:57
Speaker
Yeah. Well, I mean, it's confirmed. I mean, he is 100%. That is not Jair anymore. that That's a fucking demon that walked into the living room. It's, it's crazy because it's like it figured out how to operate the vehicle.
01:08:11
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Yeah. And Sarah is like, oh my fucking God. But that's what makes that scene work. And that's what, may to me, makes it stand out from other Possession movies, the way it's handled.
01:08:23
Speaker
Yeah, because it's not just off the charts, you know, like not off the rip. Like he ain't coming in flicking his tongue and shit. and Yeah, he's not doing some creepy walk or any bullshit like that. It's just what's terrifying is that... Walking him backwards.
01:08:38
Speaker
What's terrifying is that he's not walking like a weirdo. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Wait, why aren't you doing that fucking weird shit?
01:08:49
Speaker
Or she's not from New York. She's. Why? Why are you not doing that, puppy?
01:09:00
Speaker
Why are you speaking to me so clearly? Yeah.
01:09:05
Speaker
Mirta and Pedro, Mirta decides to go look. They see the sign for the school, so they decide to go look at the school, and her reasoning is she says that um evil likes children and children like evil, which is probably true.
01:09:24
Speaker
yeah i don't have kids. I think they're all evil. you know It's easy to, you know, obviously... As you know, he offers offers up a lot and they just take it, you know, they're easy to take over. Yeah.
01:09:39
Speaker
But they, they see all the kids sitting in the school at the desk, just sitting there. And Mirto's like, I called it, bitch. I told you, told you, told i told you ah told you joe ask i told you, I told you, I told you.
01:09:56
Speaker
Did you know Jimmy fucking your wife? yeah Did you know that? I told you. was jim Jimmy's fucking every woman in this movie. Yeah. This wick's been dipped into a lot of poison.
01:10:09
Speaker
But them them kids keep coming out and trying to fucking mislead him. So ah here's another scene that parents may not like. Pedro knocks one of them little girls down with the door of the truck and starts slapping the shit out of her.
01:10:27
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He's like, bitch, shut your fucking mouth.
01:10:33
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ah Yeah, it's funny, too, because the actor, Ezekiel, I don't know what his name is. can't pronounce it. But he said um he said that's the one scene where he really didn't want to do, and he tried to get Damien Ruggna not to make him do it.
01:10:51
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Damien Ragnar was like nope it has to be this way yeah and he said that is not a little girl at this point that is a demon yeah and he was like okay and just slapped shit out of her he slapped him and told him to go do it yeah yeah he's like do it like this he's crying a little bit like gets him on the ground why do you keep hitting yourself But Myrta realizes that they're trying to set a trap for him by telling him to go to this house or there, you know?
01:11:25
Speaker
Yeah. and And she's like, he's in the school, you know? Come on. Why are you so stupid? Yeah, they already know he's in the school. He's like controlling everybody, you know?
01:11:38
Speaker
And ah when they find the area with the stage, it looks like there's white ash everywhere, but I watched this again and ah the little girl says that they spread lime all over the place to hide the smell.
01:11:52
Speaker
Yeah. So all that white shit. He's covered in lime, yeah. Yeah, it's all over the fucking place. And she she starts setting up her cleaner equipment, which we never get to see it fully set up.
01:12:06
Speaker
that's yeah That's another thing. Nobody ever accomplishes anything. and We don't ever get to see it in action. We don't get to see what it does. I don't even think we fully, because there's a device almost identical to this in Terrified as well, and we don't get to see that fully work. We get to see it kind of work, but it's not.
01:12:27
Speaker
Well, with this especially, I like that. I like that. Because this is we're almost at the end of the movie, but this is a bit of a spoiler. There ain't no happy ending here. Yeah.
01:12:41
Speaker
ah this movie and I hope I hope that if they do a sequel that he doesn't change it and make a happy ending to the sequel I hope he keeps it I hope he keeps the same tone all the way through we have enough fucking movies with happy ending yeah every once in a while we need a gem like this to give us some perspective yeah but But when he finds ah when he finds Uriel under the stage, um this is kind of where he confirms that um Pedro tried to kill his kids because Uriel says, you wanted to kill yourself with your children. You can do that with me now.
01:13:22
Speaker
Yeah, that's how he has manipulated him. Yeah, because he's trying he's talking shit. Every time Uriel's on screen, he's talking shit. Yeah. Yeah. He's like, come on, what are you, gay? Are you gay?
01:13:36
Speaker
posty so You are put you're a
01:13:44
Speaker
What are you going to do? What are you going do? What are you going to do? What are you going to do?
01:13:59
Speaker
so What are you go do? What you going do? Yeah, he fucking, he's just talking shit the whole time. And, and, you know, ah Pedro is just a constant fuck up because he asks one of the demons to help him. Cause he's trying to get Uriel up because, uh,
01:14:17
Speaker
Myrta tells him that she needs to be able to get that ah blade into the nape of his neck, the back of his neck. yeah And obviously Pedro's not going to able to lift that fat bastard. So he's trying to get one of the little demons to help him. i'm like, you fucking moron.
01:14:36
Speaker
yeah did and Does he not realize that they're all demons, though? like He does! Myrta has told him. wondered that. yeah But maybe he's not believing it. because Maybe he's still in disbelief.
01:14:51
Speaker
I think he's just satcha he's just such a fuck-up. yeah Which is good. and Don't get me wrong. i The guy who plays him... ah as z as and Is it Ezekiel something?
01:15:04
Speaker
Let me see. ah yeah the guy who plays him is fucking an amazing actor they're all great in this movie there's a couple of the kids in this movie that kind of give questionable but even little Santino Santino is a great actor and as a little kid yeah they all did great yeah but the little girl says hey there's an axe in the director's room why don't you go get that
01:15:36
Speaker
And Mirza's like, she's lying to you, asshole. We can't be separated because if he separates us, then they they we're more vulnerable. We're less scared when we're together. Yeah.
01:15:49
Speaker
That gives them power. why Yeah. feet They feed off your fear, so... Yeah, and and when they get separated, they lock him in the fucking room because clear the axe isn't in there.
01:16:03
Speaker
and Yeah, because why would the fuck would you believe a demon... Right. Because you're Pedro. Yeah. it He's like, okay. The demons... Now, because as soon as he goes in he finds that the axe isn't really in there.
01:16:20
Speaker
Duh. Yeah. and the the They got me. Right. right I'd never think that... they Why would they lie to me? I'm gonna talk to their parents.
01:16:31
Speaker
The whole time, Myrta's like, they're lying to you. Don't listen to them. They're demons. And he's he's like, whatever. You said it's over here?
01:16:42
Speaker
over here then? That's a huge bitch. Holy shit, it's Bigfoot? Yeah, and they lock the door behind him, and as soon as the doors close, you hear fucking Myrta in another room going,
01:16:56
Speaker
Yeah. yeah They're dragging her away and a little girl is beating her on the head with a hammer. Yep. Fuck, dude.
01:17:07
Speaker
Like those innocent little children that you didn't want to see slapped earlier. Yeah. Yeah. Just whacking her on the head with a hammer as they're dragging her away. Yeah, dude.
01:17:19
Speaker
It's so fucked. Yeah.
01:17:25
Speaker
Vader is like, fuck, what do I do now? You know?
01:17:30
Speaker
ah well, uh, I shouldn't have listened to that demon. well yeah Well, he still does, though. mean, kind of, because when he turns around, fucking Uriel's fat head is sticking out from the stage like a fucking whack-a-mole. He's like, hey, Elmo, what you doing?
01:17:53
Speaker
But ah Pedro picks up a piece of the fucking ah cleaner equipment, and ah he starts charging for Uriel. And and if you watch this again, i only know I've seen this movie several times now, and I've only noticed it recently, but when he starts running towards ah Uriel, Uriel starts laughing right before he hits
Chilling Finale and Sequel Hints
01:18:16
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him.
01:18:16
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He's laughing the entire time. Well, he just laugh he just starts laughing like right before he hits him because like, what are you going to do? i thought this was Argentina.
01:18:28
Speaker
What are you going to do? What are you going to do? But he beats him in the head. And of course, um that sets off that lets the little demon loose.
01:18:40
Speaker
Yep. Which is a which is a cool scene, too. And yeah, I've heardve heard I've heard. criticism about the ah blood on the little demon kid but like looking like wax or something.
01:18:54
Speaker
And there's reasons for that. ah Apparently in Argentina, their rules... I mean, throughout this movie, they had it was super tricky for them because there's a lot of kid violence in this movie. Yeah.
01:19:07
Speaker
But with this scene, like they had to put blue shit all over him and use CGI to make it look red because they't you know they didn't want to traumatize the kids.
01:19:17
Speaker
Oh, yeah. that's why That kind of explains away why that blood looks so weird on the kid. Yeah. it's I guess that's true, yeah.
01:19:28
Speaker
They had to get kind of get through. That makes sense. Yeah, they were just trying to find a workaround to cover a kid in blood without... Without covering him in blood, yeah. Without covering him in blood, yeah. And ah and that's not the end of the movie, because the well the little demon comes out, and it's like one of the one of the promotion things they use for the movie, where he drags his fingers across Pedro's forehead and marks him. Like, this is the dumbass that let me out, so blame everything I do from this point is his fault.
01:20:04
Speaker
yeah yeah Yeah, it's like a dunce cap. yeah
01:20:10
Speaker
This guy has autism. Yeah, now you're autistic. Yeah, he kind of got touched by Jesus right there. But it made him He gave him Jeyer's autism.
01:20:29
Speaker
Yeah, it might have cured his autism at this point. Freaky Friday today, buddy. Yeah, maybe from now on he won't be making such bad decisions.
01:20:42
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Because every time he looks in a mirror, because it shows him trying to wash it off, and of course it doesn't go anywhere. Because you done been marked. You been branded. Jackass.
01:20:55
Speaker
But the movie's not over yet because Eduardo shows, you know, ah Jimmy. You see Jimmy talking to Eduardo, who is still... Because um ah apparently this all happened... this Well, I mean, clearly it happened in one night.
01:21:11
Speaker
but Jimmy goes to the saddle place, the saddle room, is that what was, where Eduardo was sleeping? Yeah. And and ah it seems like Eduardo is freed from the demon's control at this point because he's speaking clearly and telling him He's the one that at the beginning of the movie, the body that they found in the woods, that was the cleaner, and Eduardo is the one that killed him, and he tells him that he ate some of him.
01:21:40
Speaker
Oh, yeah, that's right. So a lot of the missing pieces, I don't know how these demons eat, but the missing pieces of the cleaner, apparently Eduardo ate.
01:21:56
Speaker
Yeah. and And ah Jimmy's asking him, he says, what happened to your mom? artard ah And Eduardo says the same thing that happened to your mother. Yeah. Because if you remember, we didn't get see how Sarah died. We just saw Jair walk into the room with her.
01:22:14
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Yeah. Yeah. But when Pedro got back to Myrtha's house and met up with Jimmy, they were outside crying and ah Jair was just standing at the door back to his normal self.
01:22:27
Speaker
yeah Apparently, at this point, I think everybody that the demon was possessing has been freed from Oh, yeah. And now they're stuck with like...
01:22:40
Speaker
Yeah, thats what she said oh that's kind of what I understood because like Jair is back to being autistic and and um Eduardo is like upset about all the things he did and confessing them to Jimmy.
01:22:57
Speaker
But Pedro finally, ah at the earlier in the movie, the way ah Pedro got Jair to get find the keys for Sabrina's car was he offered him apple ice cream.
01:23:12
Speaker
and So i they've been looking for this throughout the whole movie. We haven't mentioned it. but But he finally gets his apple ice cream. Because they're back and they're back at Pedro and Jimmy's house, you know, where the movie started.
01:23:26
Speaker
And they've got apple ice cream in the refrigerator for some reason. I don't know. I've never heard of such a thing. But Jair starts choking on that shit.
01:23:38
Speaker
Yeah. it's almost like It's almost like he ate about a million blood capsules. Yeah. Like Charlie Day. He's like, i didn't know you were so I didn't know you weren't supposed to swallow him.
01:23:52
Speaker
Yeah. Frank's pretty woman. Bringing back Sonny. Yeah. ah
01:24:05
Speaker
yeah fucking he starts choking on the apple ice cream and pedro starts digging around in his mouth to see what he's choking on and fucking he starts pulling out these clumps of hair and shit blood and hair and then he hacks up his mother's necklace pedro's mother so javier's grandmother So apparently the way I understand it is Jair ate Sarah.
01:24:33
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Yeah.
01:24:35
Speaker
Yeah. He, he just ate her. Like there's, an I don't know if there was anything left of her, but I'd like to see, well, maybe I don't want to. might Well, we saw how, how, uh, much that fucking cleaner was ate up in those fucking woods.
01:24:53
Speaker
Right. ah Yeah, and we saw Sabrina eating ah yeah Santino, ah eating her popcorn. so but But, yeah, I'd like to know how much, if he fucking ate her whole body.
01:25:10
Speaker
Yeah. Jesus Christ. Yeah, they got a fierce appetite. It's no wonder Uriel was such a fat prick. You fat ass humans be fattening.
01:25:23
Speaker
That might be why he got so big, because he was rotten for so long and he was eating. They were feeding him people. Yeah, he was before he could stop walking, I mean, walked his happy ass to the school.
01:25:39
Speaker
Right. he he but he He might have just kept rolling like a boulder. Yeah. Well, like on fucking Tommy Boy when that boulder came down the hill that just happened to be like a school at the end of the hill.
01:25:54
Speaker
Gooshin' brown shit the whole way Yeah. Great. I have pudding in my pants.
01:26:03
Speaker
Jair's like, fuck, man. I was... Yeah. yeah and he's He's autistic again. He was like, I wasn't autistic for one day and I ate my grandmother. Yeah. i I want to go back.
01:26:17
Speaker
Yeah. This non-autistic life sucks. Yeah. guys are You guys are horrible people. Yeah.
01:26:29
Speaker
But, you know, i love I fucking love the way this movie ends because, you know, it Jair just spit up Grandma and Pedro walks outside. And again, Jimmy doesn't know what's going on yet.
01:26:41
Speaker
But it ends with Pedro just falling to his knees and giving up and crying. yeah es I love it. I love the ending. But, you know, ah pedro Pedro didn't intentionally fuck anything up, but there is a saying that should have been the tagline for this movie.
01:27:03
Speaker
ah The road to hell is paved with good intentions. Yeah. yeah Because Pedro did not intend to do anything bad. he just Everything he tried to do to help his family and people around him made everything worse.
01:27:21
Speaker
Yeah. ah yeah every mr Every decision he made ended up breaking one of the fucking rules. And then he was breaking one consistently. He was so easily manipulated and just fucking naive and And his brother, Jimmy, yeah he just was along for the ride, which I should say that dude, Damien Solomon, I'm a fan. he's He's in all of Damien Ruggna's movies.
01:27:50
Speaker
Well, the ah ones. and he's ah I've seen some of his older stuff, too, but it's really low budget and some of it's overdubbed. So it's just, eh.
01:28:02
Speaker
like uh the last gateway i think you can you can see one of his older movies called the last gateway it's on tubi i think okay i don't know it's ah it's okay it's yeah you know i would if you want start if you start with this make sure you watch terrified because if i'm giving this movie a 10 terrified is probably a nine terrified it's it's awesome They're both amazing.
Movie Rating and Sequel Potential
01:28:27
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and And I'm pretty fucking picky about how I rate movies.
01:28:32
Speaker
And this is personal because I have no idea what Kevin would rate this. I know he likes it, but ah this is just my personal rating. I i definitely give it a 10. I mean, there's just so much to it, but I want to see.
01:28:46
Speaker
ah definitely would like to see a sequel and then they just that's it. You know what I'm saying? um i want to see. what this demon child's going to do you know, it's going to go to the city and start a new life.
01:29:00
Speaker
ah Get a wig. First, first stop. He's going to get a rug. Yeah. You're going to buy a Donald Trump wig. Walking around with that, that golden hair.
01:29:13
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I'm the greatest demon. I'm the greatest. i want here i said, Oh, what a great demon. ah
01:29:23
Speaker
Yeah. It lines up. i no i I would be happy if this was the last one. First and last. I would love for this to be a standalone movie, but I know because it was successful to a degree. for being its Surprisingly to me, it doesn't seem like it was very successful. like I don't know anyone that talks about this movie.
01:29:46
Speaker
Yeah. Except our kin. Yeah. Right, right. It's like, uh... I think the, um... subtitles is a barrier for entry.
01:29:58
Speaker
For some people. you know It is. But promise you, you won't be disappointed. Yeah, it's a shame because this... I mean, fucking... Get AI to fucking... I'm sure by now AI can just translate it to English while using the original actor's voices. Yeah.
01:30:21
Speaker
yeah I don't know. I don't know. i would I highly, highly recommend this. And we'll get back to more funny movies next week. um but Not funny, but you know horror more traditional horror, not so heavy.
01:30:37
Speaker
I just wanted the i just want to pick this movie because it's one of my favorites in a long time. Yeah, awesome. We're lucky. We've been getting a lot of good horror movies these past couple years coming out. New Imagination and stuff. It's been pretty nice.
Appreciation for Horror Movies
01:30:52
Speaker
I want more people to watch this, though. i want i want I don't necessarily want a sequel, though, but I do want all the merch. yeah I want a hoodie. I want... You know, but they don't make anything for it.
01:31:06
Speaker
They don't make anything for it yet. So come on, guys. I don't know. but Anyway... That was one of my favorite movies in many, many years. When Evil Lurks. Mine too.
01:31:18
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Really good. funny ah But um if got any horror, horror comedies, you know, that you want us to take a look at that possibly we haven't seen, but between the both of us, we're pretty fucking big losers. So we've probably seen most of them.
01:31:37
Speaker
But.
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01:31:38
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01:31:48
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Bye.