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Speaker: Hello, welcome to Dead Notes. i am Kevin, and with me is a man who don't carry no purse no more. i don't carry no purse.
Speaker: Don't carry no purse no more. So, welcome. This is going to be a our Halloween finale, especial, whatever you want to call it.
Speaker: um you as especially you You're a special lady. My special lady. Um, if you are on the Instagrams, we recorded a a little live tidbit the night that we recorded this, but, um, we wanted to welcome it for Halloween.
Speaker: um We get pretty saucy.
Speaker: ah Disclaimer up front. What you're about to hear is Kevin and i just hanging out and talking shit about Nightmare on Elm Street 2. And um and a violatin he just I made the mistake of bringing vodka to this.
Speaker: Yeah. Yeah. So we were we we drank a little bit of vodka and then... A shit ton Iron Cities. shit load of beers.
Speaker: Yeah. So hats off if you can make it through this one. Yes, but please um yeah drink with us during this episode. um It's what, about three hours? No, it's a little over two, but it's not normal.
Speaker: ah It's definitely a ah challenging episode. Yeah, but it'll be fun. Just say the least.
Speaker: Yeah, so we happy fucking Halloween. If you guys ain't doing shit on this awesome night, go outside and just kick it and drink some booze and Smoke your reefers if you smoke your reefers and have fun with us.
Speaker: Yep. Happy Halloween, everybody. Happy Halloweenies. Good luck with
Speaker: this one. Bye. Bye. We're so fucking stupid.
Speaker: Hello. Welcome to Dead Notes, a horror and cult film podcast. We are doing this gorilla style in my backyard next to a campfire.
Speaker: i am Kevin. And with me is a man that the only reason why we're able to do this back here in my backyard, gorilla style, is because he really knows his way around a pop gun. And it got him through a lot of shit. So...
Speaker: so ah Yeah, whatever. I'm Alan, and we're talking about Nightmare on Elm Street 2, Freddy's Revenge from 1985.
Speaker: Electric Boogaloo. Electric Boogaloo. Nightmare on Elm Street 2. Electric Boogeyman. like And we're in Kevin's backyard sitting by the campfire. Yeah, it's it's pretty sweet. We haven't done this before, and we've been talking about it.
Speaker: Yeah. We just happened to have a beautiful night, and we're like, fuck it, we don't got anything else to do, so let's fucking go.
Speaker: Yep. You know, ah ah What? i don't know I don't know how to start this. I suppose um we can make fun of the director a little bit, because he, uh... He's a fucking idiot.
Speaker: Right, like, does even... What state, Jack? The state of California? I know what state I'm in, Jack. That guy has no idea where the fuck he is. like
Speaker: he He made a movie that is arguably gayer than um Rocky Horror Picture Show, and he claims that he didn't know that.
Speaker: Okay, so this is where I'm going to like put up the front. So this fucking documentary comes out.
Speaker: And i haven't seen it in a while. And i would I guess I should have... If I had more time, I would have like rewatched it. And it's an incredible documentary. Don't get me wrong.
Speaker: But... I haven't watched this movie in a long time. And I watched this movie after watching the documentary. And...
Speaker: Honestly, i don't i don't really think that those homosexual undertones are as prevalent as what this whole fucking documentary said they were.
Speaker: Like, honestly, i dude, I talked to my wife about it and because she loves the sequel, too. Like, it's... It's a great fucking follow-up. Maybe it's because I watched this movie when it fucking premiered on HBO.
Speaker: And, like, I watched the first one when it premiered on HBO. Dude, no. And after that one, I got so scared. And, like, my dad was like...
Speaker: if If I find out that you're sleeping on the floor, on the foot of the bed again, you know, you're never watching another one of these movies. You know, i was like, don't know, maybe like eight.
Speaker: I don't know. And then sure fucking enough, you know, after the first one, um that's where I slept. You know, he was so fucking mad. And then he's like, you're never watching another one of these.
Speaker: And then Nightmare on Elm Street Part 2 comes out. And he's like... You're never watching. He's like, he's like if you if you watch this and you end up on the floor again, he's like, you're never watching another one of these movies.
Speaker: You ain't no son of mine. was like, that's not going to happen. And that night I ended up on the floor at the foot of the bed.
Speaker: Well, we we can agree that Jack Shoulder is a fucking idiot. He is, but honestly, like this movie is fucking sweet. like it's It's a great continuance to Nightmare on Elm Street.
Speaker: I'm sorry. I don't give a fuck. Well, my you know, like i I told you earlier, I haven't seen any of these probably since they came out. Yeah, absolutely. Because you remember when we were kids, everyone was like, you're ah are you Friday the 13th fan or a Nightmare on Elm Street fan? Yeah, it was definitely divided.
Speaker: i was It was definitely divided. I was team Friday the 13th, even though I liked the Nightmare on Elm Street movies. A lot of them I haven't seen in years.
Speaker: And part two, ah I don't know. When I was a kid, I thought it was definitely the scariest one because the fucking pool scene. But now looking back and watching it again, it's kind of silly. Yeah.
Speaker: Well, let's let's go back to that pool scene. but since okay That was what freaked you out as a kid, right? That's that's what scared the shit out of you. like The intro, the bus scene. like I remember a bus identical to this picking me up.
Speaker: for school and um i was so fucking scared because it was so rickety and nasty and it was around winter time and the buses were just like that dude like they were just you know they're they were fucking running you know but they my bus looked identical to this motherfucker And for like two weeks, I waited for this goddamn bus driver to pull off the side of the fucking road.
Speaker: I went through this really paranoid era of my life when I was that young. And like I kept dude, it was crazy. i would literally like just have to like kind of brace.
Speaker: like the whole ride home and the whole ride to school hoping that it wasn't going to be Freddy Krueger because but it wasn't even like Freddy but it was just like what if this bus driver goes crazy and that's like what this set off as so i don't know that was my craziest scary moment I have an idea for a new title for this movie You want to hear it?
Speaker: Yes. The ambiguously gay duo.
Speaker: Honestly, a let's let's okay i'll let's let's go into that because I think Freddy is a bit of the antagonist as far in this movie as far as well what's going on.
Speaker: Yeah. um ah You're talking about... He's grooming. You're saying... think Freddy's grooming in this movie if there's anything. Did you see the dance scene? Well, yeah, absolutely.
Speaker: But, I mean... ah do you have something you need to tell me?
Speaker: i mean, it's it's a fucking... Honestly, like, in watching it, he goes up and he's all mad. I think, if anything... That dance scene is honestly harmless.
Speaker: Like, I think more so it was the director wanting to see him dance and pop that, that pop gun.
Speaker: You know what I'm saying? Like, I think I, and, and like think the director was just putting, I think he was grooming him. Absolutely. And I know they go into that But I think that, you know That's what was happening But honestly It was a it was the it was a time It was the fucking 80s, dude You know what I'm saying? like it was He was goofy He was wearing fucking stupid fucking eighty s He was wearing this, well, shit, because he was he did put on those glasses that that designer was wearing in a mannequin.
Speaker: Oh, you're talking about ah Jesus Christ. um You know I'm talking about. But even still, it was a stupid era, dude. Hollywood. i would Yeah, Hollywood. Hollywood.
Speaker: Shit.
Speaker: You didn't think I'd remember that, did you? Tried to pull one underneath you? Yeah. No, I don't know, man. like Honestly, in 85, there was so much goofy shit.
Speaker: And like in that era, like oh fuck I think I was age. whatever. And... you know so i'm like just kind of like witnessing the world you know or whatever and Fucking.
Speaker: Fuck, dude. I don't know. There was these glasses everywhere in the fucking just they were everywhere. Everybody had them. Kids had them, you know. So what the fuck? He's packed. He's unpacking his room because his room has been hot. He hasn't been wanting to do anything.
Speaker: You know, he's been bitching about it at breakfast. Well, Bert's been bitching at him. Bert's been bitching i'm get on it but he's like it's so hot you know like Bert which let's get into Bert Kluh Gulliger Gulliger dude it was so refreshing to see cause like I said I hadn't watched this movie in so long and you know i fucking love that actor like I've loved him and everything I think he's in Feast right yeah
Speaker: he's He's in Feast, right? i'm not I'm not sure. He's the bartender. Maybe. um I think, yeah. And i fucking love that actor. I loved him in Return Living Dead. Bert is Bert. boy. Yeah, buddy boy.
Speaker: Bert is Bert, right? So... Well, you know, I was thinking... ah I was thinking, too, you know what?
Speaker: Robert Englund lucked out with this part because, you know, Jason in Friday the 13th, you could put anybody in that part because it's a stunt man in a Jason costume. Right.
Speaker: Right? Yeah. Freddy, like Pinhead, did, you know... ah what What one was that that they did with the different actor that just looks silly with Pinhead? I forget.
Speaker: but oh the the was a Hellraiser series that have the Twinkie Pinhead? Is that what you're talking about? I don't fucking know.
Speaker: I'm not a huge Hellraiser fan. I love part one and two, but I haven't really kept up with the other ones. but um But Robert Englund lucked out because after they shot the first Nightmare on Elm Street, you can't really have anyone else playing Freddy, right? You got to have Robert Englund every time.
Speaker: yeah Yeah, you can't. like there's There's nobody else that can do Freddie, dude. I don't care. I don't care. like i don't care like Even in prosthetic, dude, you you don't have it it's That's the gem of our generation, dude.
Speaker: like We have that. No one could do like the Frankenstein like Boris Karloff, right? like The traditional, you know? ah You can't pull that off.
Speaker: Well, we'll see because that new one by Guillermo del Toro is coming out. This is going to be the one, and I don't want to go into it right now. I've i've already went in This is my shit, so I don't i can't go into it right now.
Speaker: But, like, I cannot fucking wait is all I can fucking say. Oh, yeah. I cannot fucking wait for so many goddamn reasons, like. And I was a huge fan of the Frankenstein's monster. Well, Dr. Frankenstein and the Penny Dreadful series. Did you see that? No, I never watched those. Crystal, my wife watched those. Okay.
Speaker: Yeah. There it is. That's the barker. You know what this feels like to me. You remember um Night of the Living Dead. When they cast Dwayne Jones as Ben, it was a character that George Romero wrote as, you know...
Speaker: I guess you could say it was written as a white guy, but when they ended up casting Dwayne Jones, they didn't change the dialogue. Right. So it never references him being black or anything.
Speaker: Yeah, it's just straight it's it's just normal dialogue. It's like how everybody talked. Which is how you should do those movies. Absolutely. You should not. there shouldn't you It should be just as you're writing the character. Right. You shouldn't be like, oh you're a black guy.
Speaker: just like when we get, okay, like the green room. You know, we get Picard. He's like the head this fucking Aryan nation. Right. Like this whole fucking Aryan brotherhood. Right.
Speaker: And he fucking plays that goddamn role. So fucking good. I don't care. And it was because it was a role written for anybody to play.
Speaker: They could have gotten some out of fucking prison AB motherfucker to play that role. Probably. But they went with him. So the reason I bring that up, because here's my theory, and I haven't heard this anywhere, but this is just what I'm assuming, is they wrote the role of Jesse for a girl, and when they cast a guy, they didn't change the script.
Speaker: Oh, okay. I think that's what happened here, other than the other than the gay bar.
Speaker: Right. Because ah he, like, um I mean, if you... He plays the final girl in this. Really? Yeah.
Speaker: He, I mean, he does, and that's what that fucking documentary circles around, but it was different, and... Had that shit been shot now, it would probably be a little bit different. I think because everything's so fucking, like, filtered now. Like, everything's got to have a goddamn category.
Speaker: i think in 85, you know, it was just, it was loose. I mean, this dude, this fucking weird-ass motherfucker got his hands on an opportunity.
Speaker: he already had it laid out in front of him, right? So... Yeah, changes had to be made, but I think it fucking works, dude. Fucking Mark Patton is fucking tormented as fuck in this movie, and he plays that fucking role extremely well.
Speaker: And in watching this fucking movie, like this whole fucking goddamn intro, he's waking up screaming from a fucking nightmare. You know what I mean? They don't fucking you know drag.
Speaker: Speaking of that, yeah here's something I know. Well, let's i'll I'll mention it in a little bit. but um You know this movie's in Ohio, right? You know Springfield's in Ohio?
Speaker: Well, yeah. it's like Or Springwood. It's Springwood, but Springfield ain't far, brother. I'm thinking of the Simpsons. But you know what? Springfield, it makes sense. In the nicer area of it But, like, Wes Craven, I saw an interview with him where he was explaining why he didn't direct this, and part of it was because, uh, the pool scene, because when Freddy... Like, you see Freddy in the daylight and shit, but in the pool scene, he's out standing amongst people that are taller than him, you know? Yeah, absolutely, dude. And he didn't want his, uh, his creation to be, um...
Speaker: kind of emasculated i guess really yeah so he was like fuck that i ain't doing that i don't want so i don't want some huge bitch yeah i need freddie to look like a huge bitch you know like when they made ah jason x wasn't yeah was it Yeah, Jason X, when he goes to space, yeah they were like, you can make the movie as goofy as you want, but you can't make fun of Jason.
Speaker: So Jason is still the same Jason he is on every fucking Friday the 13th, but the movie that they made around it is this goofy-ass space bullshit.
Speaker: I think it's, it's, I like Jason X. I do too. I'm just saying. I love, i actually love it. The kill scenes are great, but I think it it was a movie made exclusively we're so horny for the fans and like to get everybody pumped up for something. Freddy Krueger and Jason. You're excited. Michael Myers.
Speaker: Michael Myers wasn't even a fucking thing to me, really. Like, he freaked me out. But, like, I didn't give a fuck about him. You know what I'm saying? Like, my shit was Leatherface. Leatherface was my always my number one because he scared the fuck out of me.
Speaker: It was Reagan because I never got to see that. And I always just heard stories from whatever. But Freddie and Jason, dude, like I had two guinea pigs.
Speaker: And I wanted to name them Freddy and Jason. My mom wouldn't let me. My dad was going to let me. But my mom wouldn't let me, so I had to name them Fred and Sam. There was, like, as we were talking, there was a divide. Like, there was. It was like... And there was so much Freddy Krueger shit, like, starting to, like... It was starting to brew that fire. Not on this... At this movie at this time, but in our era, you know?
Speaker: Here's, like... I hate to beat a dead horse, you know, like I don't tend to do. But Friday 13th is special to me. I love it.
Speaker: I love And I know i just spent about 10 minutes or so shitting all over... In a violent nature.
Speaker: hey Not in this episode. Right, right. This is a couple back. But and because I know someone's going to say, well, Friday the 13th, you know, a child could write that.
Speaker: Right. Not really, though. But the the thing is, as I was a child when Friday the 13th came out. I was the demographic. Yeah, we were. Dude, me and you were exactly... and you were those two kids underneath that fucking bed in part six, dude. For real. So what did you want to be when you grew up? Right. That was us, dude.
Speaker: Guess we're fucked. But... But, yeah, those those two, those two the like, yeah, I'm the same way. Michael Myers was just kind of whatever to me. like Yeah.
Speaker: Halloween is a good movie, and ah John Carpenter is fucking master movies. ah His soundtracks, his synthwave soundtracks. He's fucking so much fun. Carpenter is so fucking fun. And i love Halloween.
Speaker: Like, I do. And I love all of them. You know, i I don't want to get into how I feel about, like, the trillions of fucking remixes of it. But, like...
Speaker: I mean, honestly, I love it, but I love part three. I don't care. Like, I love part three. And i wish she's great I wish that, like, they would have kind of, like, went with the original plan, but it is what it is.
Speaker: Well, that was the original plan, technically, because he wanted it to be an anthology. He wanted it to branch off, yes. And I like that. I like that a lot, but... It is what it is, and i love I love them all up through six, I think. Kevin likes part three because it shows Tom Adkins' butt.
Speaker: That's pretty much why. ah You put that up against Night of the Creeps with his tiny feet and them white shoes. You fucking laid me out, baby. got to see Tom Atkins' cheeks. You fucking suck it. You got to see them cheeks.
Speaker: Them cheeks. Them muffins. He is completely irresistible in Halloween. What Albert Fish call butt cheeks? I can't remember. I don't know, but he was. Oh, the sweet meats. I think he he called ah butt cheeks like the sweet meats of a human.
Speaker: That's what Albert Fish called the buttocks. He actually said buttocks, and, yeah, it was they were like the sweet meats of a human. Yeah, except his sweetmeats had all kinds of needles and shit in it.
Speaker: Well, his did. Not what he consumed. He knows better than that. He was more of a blood drinker, wasn't he? No. Not a cannibal. No, Albert Fish was straight up. How about drank that little girl's blood?
Speaker: Never mind. Well, he probably cook cooked her blood in her shit. I mean, but he was absolutely a cannibal and a sadist and a mastic because he was everything. But the funnest thing about Albert Fish is the times in the beginnings.
Speaker: In the beginnings. He's so fun. Well, no, this is this is the set this is a silly fucking thing. He used to roll himself up in a fucking carpet.
Speaker: And his kids would come down and he was just like laying there rolled up in a carpet. Like who the fuck does that? i get I guess the same person that puts needles like all up in their pelvic region and kills and is a horrible person. But it's so fucking stupid.
Speaker: That sounds difficult. Anyway. Anyway, I'm sorry. I'm rambling. And so is Kevin. Me too. But,
Speaker: but ah you know, i got since we're sitting out by Kevin's fire, i actually have the movie playing this time. So we're just going to go along with it. How does that sound to you, Kevin?
Speaker: I'm good with it, man. like We've been getting off track a little bit. I get it. i know. We're talking about Friday the 13th because, in my opinion, it's superior. but But we'll see. Maybe my mind will be changed. It's divided. It's divided, Alan. For real, like during the 85 era, like it really was. like Through 88, 89, into the ninety s I mean, look at all the Freddy Krueger merch that was out.
Speaker: Oh, the glove is fucking awesome. Dude, like so much. Like all of my trick-or-treats, I was haunted by Freddy Krueger. Like, you know, but I was never allowed to be a monster.
Speaker: I was never, i don't think there was ever a time where I thought Freddy Krueger was scary. But, because I'm a tough dude. ah No. of It's the idea of him, I think, is more so than like, and being a kid and the fact that he focused on children. Like, I think the idea Freddy Krueger. Well, he killed teenagers. He molested children, so.
Speaker: Yeah. Tomato, tomato, brother. i mean, you're fucked either way. You're fucked if you're a kid and you're fucked if you're a teenager, right? Yeah, at least fucking Jason wasn't a diddler.
Speaker: But it didn't matter he if you're a teenager trying to have a good time. We don't know that he has killed children, Jason. You know what I'm saying? We don't know if he has.
Speaker: As far as we know in the movies and all the films the children have been spared right it's all it's all been the counselors you know the the moral well and the grounds you know what i'm saying let's not go back into friday 13th right i was gonna say in the front of night around elm streets i don't think children get killed it's always you know in the 80s they always had like 20 to 30 year olds playing teenagers Right, but I'm just saying like the insinuation is that the reason why Freddy is dead is because he was a horrible child molester murderer, and you know he's coming back to take the children of the parents. the
Speaker: He's coming back to take the children from the parents of the people that fucking burned him, right? that's That's the whole point of this. He's haunting their dreams, right? like That's his whole point.
Speaker: Maybe in the first movie. Well, no, that's that's the running gag in all of them. That's the Yankee Rose in all of
Speaker: them. Am I wrong? Well, I'm just saying I don't think that the parents... I think that the... I don't know. i Honestly, I just bought these on Blu-ray because I haven't seen a lot of them since they came out, and I really need to do a rewatch. They explained it all in the first one, and it carries over into this one.
Speaker: That's what I'm saying. I think this is like... A really good fucking sequel. like I'm going to argue this like as we talked about. Well, right. I don't... I think it's Don't argue it. i think it will I'm sticking up for it. I think it's a fine movie.
Speaker: I think as a sequel, in hindsight, mind you. Yeah. Because it wasn't really a franchise yet. No, it wasn't. But in hindsight, hindsight being 2020, this is not a good sequel, only because it ignores... It's like the fucking director never saw Nightmare on Elm Street movie. Yeah.
Speaker: Yeah, you're right. ah but But in the context of there was only one out at the time. it was so new. Right. and The idea was so new. He had no fucking idea who Freddy Krueger was when he made this movie.
Speaker: And nobody did, really. So I think you can excuse all of. Yeah, you can. excuse No, that's what I'm saying. You can excuse a lot of stuff because this this idea was so new.
Speaker: And, you know, me and you were talking earlier. Like there was a lot of there's a lot of new ideas coming out these past couple years. One of which, you know, the one you love, the unviolent nature, I think is what it was called. Fuck you.
Speaker: You cocksucker. I'll i'll kill you i kill you. I'll kill you. I'll kill you live. I'll throw you in that fucking fire. No, but for real, like I think that like this movie came out and it was like a brand new idea and No one knew what the fuck was going to happen.
Speaker: Everybody's used to slashers. That's all that was out. Slashers and zombie movies, right? Like the beginning of of zombie movies, correct? I mean, 85, what was it? Return of the Living Dead came out.
Speaker: Yeah. It was the start of the pop culture of that. Day of the Dead and Return the Living Dead both came out in 85. But I would say that- What a year. but But I would say zombie movies. To be at those fucking theaters, dude, like that year. Zombie movies didn't really become pop pop culture until The Walking Dead came.
Speaker: Well, we're talking to about 28 days later. that The underground really started fucking cooking and bubbling and i around that time, around 85. Let me clarify something real quick because I just said 28 days later and I know there's people that are going to be like, 28 Days Later Ain't a Zombie Movie.
Speaker: I agree. Yeah. And I'll go into this event. It's simplified. Quick notes. I'll go into this eventually, but hear me out.
Speaker: Night Living Dead isn't a zombie movie either. so Chew on that. Not technically, no. No, because george romero car gould George Romero called them ghouls. The only reason he started calling them zombies was because movie critics and fans started calling them zombies. it so It's easier Right. No spoilers.
Speaker: a few moments later um no spoilers we'll argue about it later. Right. You know what I'm talking about? God damn it. No, I don't. I'm talking about The Toxic Avenger. Oh, I don't even want to go into that either right now yet.
Speaker: I haven't seen it yet either. ah Fuck that movie. ah really i really... Listen. It's not terrible. listen and It's not terrible. I haven't seen it and in Toxic Avenger is very fucking close to my heart and ah one of my one of my besties...
Speaker: I had like a slight like film film ah talk with you know couple different movies, and he fucking sold me.
Speaker: So I'm going to give it a shot, but I'm telling you, like i don't know. i just i just don't know. I will say that I am very glad that... Troma gave its entire blessing.
Speaker: And I am very glad that like, I don't know, like it's getting out there that Troma can get more recognized. out But I don't know. you know know, this is going to sound terrible.
Speaker: But it's like baseline Troma. There's not a single...
Speaker: That's cool. i don't want to talk about it, though. Uh-oh. I'll stop there. Sorry.
Speaker: There's no... Never mind. I know. I know. I want to talk about so bad, but I don't. You know what I'm saying? Because I want watch it. I hear you. You know what I'm saying? But... I'm torn. I'm so fucking torn. i My vote is... And I told Kevin this. He's fucking getting in the cooler, so I'm alone with you again. not alone.
Speaker: Not alone. So don't forget it. Jesus Christ. It's just a silly thing I'm going through.
Speaker: right. Nightmare on Elm Street. Part 2. Freddy's Revenge. 1985, baby. Electric Boogaloo. Electric Boogaloo. Electric Boogeyman.
Speaker: This movie got me feeling some feelings. I know.
Speaker: So I'm going to go ahead and just play the movie and we'll talk ah ah we'll talk about it as it goes because we're sitting out in the backyard. We're relaxing right now. You guys are in for the ride. So if this episode is like two and a half hour two and a half hours long, thanks for thanks for sitting through it with us. Right. We love you so fucking much.
Speaker: I brought the vodka. Yeah. Yeah. We're drinking some Scentsy Light. And it's fucking me up right now. Well, I got, um... I have, uh... Iron City beer, too, of course. Because I'm a Dawn of the Dead fucking retard. Yeah.
Speaker: But...
Speaker: But what do you think about the intro here, Kevin? Because let's go do this. Like I was talking about earlier, this shit fucked me up. It was incredible. I mean, what's scarier than a fucking being on the bus, just being an introvert.
Speaker: Well, I was like I related with this fucking dude because like i didn't sit with anybody on the bus. I don't know about you. like i wanted to I wanted to look it up, but I didn't yet.
Speaker: and But tell me that, Jesse, tell me this isn't a hot for teacher. oh it's totally the intro for it, bro. Like, it's just absolutely. Because Jesse's hair is just like Waldo.
Speaker: Yeah. Sit down, Waldo. Oh, my. Oh my God. He like, Jesse pulls up after Freddie. Listen, like Jesse pulls up to the school after Freddie enters his life and he's like pulling up and he's got the fur coat on and shit.
Speaker: No puns. I forgot my pencil. Oh. yeah not pulling down and yeah that down that now right my pencil Give me something ride on, man.
Speaker: Give me something to ride on, man. ah Tell me that's not fucking Waldo right there. But tell me this isn't the scariest shit. How? When they're fucking driving off the edge of the fucking road, they're driving off the edge of the fucking road, and, like, there's three of them left on the bus. You're like, body glove.
Speaker: The body glove sticker. Body glove ad. what What a fucking...
Speaker: Before we go into the heart of this, we noticed that it was Robert Englund driving the bus like in his true form, which is i forgot to talk about that earlier, but I think that's fucking awesome. I love what you said.
Speaker: In his true form. Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha.
Speaker: He's like, I form Freddy. yeah Yeah, as soon as he soon as he fucking passes that red line, dude, it's fucking done. ah So, ah so of what's up with the girls, though, man? Because Jesse uses them as human shields. Well, yeah. I mean, he was out for himself. This is our protagonist here, right? Right, yeah. and Oh, and I wish, because you see when the bus fucking first comes in, the way it's flopping around, like I wish they'd have been fucked up from that. Because if you was sitting in that bus when it did that, you'd be thrown. Dude, there's seatbelts on that motherfucker.
Speaker: They didn't have no seatbelts on. You get CTE for but yeah cte e from fucking speed bumps on those motherfuckers. You get CTE from your ride to school. Yeah. logins I don't read no good. I don't read no good, no more.
Speaker: I used to read, but I was the last one to be picked up and the last one to be dropped off. Yeah, I'll tell you, i had ah i had a friend when i was in high when I was in grade school, and he had a Freddy mask and a Freddy glove, and I thought it was the coolest fucking shit. Right.
Speaker: Because I was never allowed to have it, and like I had those friends too, and like my one buddy got like the hat. he didn't He wasn't able to get the mask yet. Yeah. But he had the glove and the hat, and, dude, motherfucker thought he was so cool.
Speaker: and like me He had the hat. He saved up Marvel proof of purchases. Yeah, yeah. His dad made him clip his fucking packs. yeah I used to have to do that shit. Did you used to have to do that shit? No.
Speaker: yeah I used to have, dude, my dad would pick us up and like, holy shit, my dad would pick us up and we'd it would be a night where he'd be like, all right, i'm bringing I'm bringing you over.
Speaker: And he's like, we're going to watch a pay-per-view, like what let's say like a horror movie. what Let's say Freddy's Dead came out. go watch something on HBO with you gay boys. No, no for real. like this one I remember specifically, it was when Freddy's- When Freddy's Dead came out, like, he pay-per-viewed it, and they mailed you the 3D glasses. Oh, yeah. And as soon as we started watching the goddamn movie...
Speaker: He fucking throws me and my brother these bags of fucking empty packs of cigarettes to start pulling the fucking miles off of. And that wasn't the first time, but this was extra hard because i was so excited to fucking see this fucking movie in 3D. You know what I'm saying?
Speaker: And here I am fucking with 3D glasses on, chipping Marlboro miles off of fucking packs of cigarettes, dude.
Speaker: Oh, man. Nobody, no young young man won't know the struggles. Yeah, dude. I'm telling you. it was fucking, it was something else, dude. My brother will fucking, my brother remembers, like, it was fucking weird.
Speaker: But, you know, you cherish those moments. Oh, yeah, definitely. But this fucking scene is so funny because Jesse is supposed to be the fucking protagonist, but he's using these random girls as human shields.
Speaker: As you would. No, I'm just kidding. tell me this wasn't written, this wasn't supposed to be a final girl. Tell me Jesse wasn't supposed to be the girl.
Speaker: I think that the director just cast him and didn't change the script. I think that that is a high possibility and most likely happened, but on the same note...
Speaker: It was such a new idea when it came out. Why not make a dude the final? You know what I'm saying? Because everybody was used to the slasher films as the final girl.
Speaker: and and And all of it, right? Except for the more obscure ones. ah But, like, you know what I'm saying? So maybe he was trying to change something up. I'll tell you why not, because nobody gives a fuck if Jesse dies or not. Do you?
Speaker: I mean, the dude's going through some shit.
Speaker: i I kind of feel bad for him, because as far as I know, he hasn't done anything. Yeah, he hasn't. The movie opens with fucking... Freddy fucking driving there or Robert England driving the bus until they fucking hit the line and then it's Freddy and he's ready kill everybody. So I feel bad for all of them. Be honest with you. Like as far as we know, they didn't do shit.
Speaker: I'm just I don't I don't know. Look at him. He's fucking hiding behind him. Well, yeah. ah he and and and And then he wakes up and he screams like a girl.
Speaker: Mommy, why can't Jesse wake up like everybody else? Oh, honey, he's all right. He's just having a bad dream. I'm cool with it. I don't care. at all that bubble wrap. i just Man, he's been slacking in his room.
Speaker: hey Look, I don't give look at that fucking bulge, though. Oh, shut up. That's a
Speaker: That's 70... Look at them balls. them balls. That's all balls. But, okay, so... And look... Enter Bert. No, hold up a minute, because I'm gonna tell you, no self-respecting gay man is wearing whitey tighties.
Speaker: Right? 1985, dude. Oh, yeah, I guess. He's a teenager in this movie, bro. You might be right there. i mean, it's 1985. He's a teenager. Probably didn't have any other options. I'm sure as introverted as he was, he probably wasn't too concerned about what kind of fucking undergarments he was wearing, regardless of the undertones that people say that this movie holds. You don't think that Jesse is gay?
Speaker: No, absolutely. i actually don't. I think that this movie, as far watched it- Oh, never mind. You think Freddy's gay. Yeah. Freddy's a motherfucker, and we'll get into that. Freddy's a motherfucker doing that I'm with you on that. I kind of agree with that.
Speaker: I think Freddy, in and of himself, is a motherfucker that's trying to experiment, because clearly he's a fucking pervert. That's why he got fucking burned. Yeah. Am I wrong?
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Speaker: Yeah, he uses those girls as human shields. And Klu-Gulliger. guliger I don't know how to fucking say his name. Listen, for the sake of this, i'm wantnna he's Bert.
Speaker: Bert. I don't care. Like, you fight me. yeah words Email me at deadnotespodcast at gmail.com. Nailed it. In this life, his name is Bert.
Speaker: in this life his name is burket
Speaker: He's the eldest. He's the firstborn, and he's a boy. He's a mama's boy, okay? He's not a fucking Targaryen. It doesn't matter. like they They put that divide as, again, 1985. The firstborn son.
Speaker: Yeah, it is. I mean, he's he's got prospects. he's got a He's got a business to run. He's got, you need a, he's got to run. well there Were those human shoes? Hold up.
Speaker: Hold up. Wait a minute. Something may right. Oh, yeah. His fucking girl Lisa just shows up at the house. Like, we get no introduction to her. She's just like, give me a ride to school.
Speaker: Yeah. She's supposed to be the rich girl, right? Yeah. Yeah. She's got a pool. i don't have a pool. Yeah, she she comes from very... ah What do they call it? Fluent family?
Speaker: Affluent? Affluent? ah we are flu We are fluent in Mexican. We are fluent in Spanish. Donde esta el sanitario? My man.
Speaker: So we get his. All right. So that's gravy. That's Grady. that softball? Is that a baseball or a softball? I can't tell. I can't tell by how they're pitching underhand. I didn't look at it.
Speaker: I think this might be softball they're playing. you wear a jock straps during baseball? I did. Look, he just got hit in his temporal lobe.
Speaker: That's where Freddy got in because he got hit with a softball.
Speaker: freddie Freddy slipped in because it's easier control. Okay, I have a thing to say here about... um It's easier to take control of simples. No, I have a thing to say about Grady.
Speaker: Like, he looks identical... To the guy in the first movie? Absolutely. tough Is it not him? I don't fucking know his name, but it's not the same dude. How fucking crazy is that, though? He's from the same island.
Speaker: What the fuck? Dude, that shit. fucked me up. i was like, did he seriously, like, recast? And I'm too lazy so like, pick the same fucking... Look into it, but, like, tell me back to... but We will... I will post a picture on our Instagram page of a who who wore it better, I guess.
Speaker: Just like I did with ah our very first episode it with... a ah Gary Newman and and what what's his fucking name? mar I can't remember. That was our first episode. Trick or treat or whatever the fuck.
Speaker: It was shit. Night of the Creeps. Or not our first episode. It was. Let's move on. i feel like there's something. We'll be right back. Let me see.
Speaker: So, ah yeah. So is this when um is this when Jesse first meets Grady? Yeah, because Jesse's been giving him shit.
Speaker: And, like, jesse Jesse took a fucking ball to the fucking head, as we talked about. And, you know, now you know they're playing fucking back and forth because he hit the ball out and he pulled his fucking pants down.
Speaker: And the motherfucker pulled... Fucking, he's got a jockstrap on. Ron fucking pulls Jesse's fucking pants down. They start fighting.
Speaker: But they become friends because, i mean, just what it is. The coach gets off on this shit. All the way around, you can tell they've been building this character.
Speaker: that's That's my argument for later. I forgot to look this up because what the fuck is the coach from? look how they're look how they he' fucking look how they cool Look how they framed that. Tell me they didn't want it to look. He's from fucking Total Recall. he's Oh, yeah, yeah. He's fucking... oh With the fucking little babies. God damn it.
Speaker: The um basket case baby sticking out of him. Yeah, Kevin's ignoring me because he's Googling shit. Let me say about in a violent nature... I'm kidding.
Speaker: ha, ha.
Speaker: Mary, shut the fuck up with that. I'm trying to find out what the... We're going to go beyond this because I'm going to go into a fucking... I know who you're talking... Yeah, we know who we're talking about. So... Anyway, like... Did you ever have to take fucking gym... Did you ever have to take showers in gym class?
Speaker: Yeah, eighth grade. And it was for... I did too, and it was just like that where... identical. was identical. Where we had, um, the, the coach, our coach had a fucking, his office. Shut the fuck Tell me his office wasn't right in front the locker room. And it had a window. yes And he, his, and his, and his desk was facing the fucking lockers. Yes.
Speaker: Ours did too. And if you didn't take a shower, he wouldn't let you leave. Ours gave us detention. We'd have to do ah we'd have to do ah detention a one-day detention if we didn't take a shower after gym class.
Speaker: Man. Yeah. How fucked up is that? Tell me that's not fucking... ah He should be on a list. Yeah. Well, absolutely. i was like, I was like, you didn't even.
Speaker: Yeah, he probably is now. I can barely do a helicopter. When they when they go into retirement is usually when they're more vulnerable to go into a list. So fuck fucking that was crazy.
Speaker: Fucking. ah But I'll tell you what. But how fucking relatable. So that's like why this movie like hits so hard with us. You know what I'm saying? Like, it's just, it's it makes you feel like you're at school.
Speaker: Like, their locker room looks identical to my fucking school's locker room when I saw this. you were you were You had a friend like Grady that you found... No one had a mirror.
Speaker: That you found irresistible. Yeah. But they're buddies, right? like They fought, and then that's old school. like You beat each other up, and then you're like, this is fucking stupid.
Speaker: Now you're friends. like You're like, this is cool, whatever. like Now we're BFFs, right? yeah The temperature in this movie is incredible.
Speaker: Like, it makes you feel so so uncomfortable, I do have to say. Like, it's incredible. So... I know at that point Jesse or Grady tells Jesse about the house.
Speaker: Yeah. Do they? Do they at this point think that that is Freddy Krueger's house? They say that that's when that's where everything, like, went down.
Speaker: You know what I'm saying? like Because that's... The girl went crazy and, like, you know what I'm saying? Nancy. Yeah. They're talking about Nancy. And she saw Johnny Depp across the street fucking with his TV on his lap squirt all over the ceiling. Well, yeah, they're but in this, they're like, oh, did you know that, like, there was, like, this huge burden? Fucking...
Speaker: Let me suck your dick. ah Pull out your boobies. Pull out your boobies. So this is, I think, the first dream sequence here where Jesse... Well, it's technically the second because we yeah enter with the first. this yeah the first first one is the scoo buses yeah this is This is the one. He's walking down the cake stairway. Remember in the first one where the stairway was made out of cake?
Speaker: I got so hungry during that. You're making me hungry. I know. I want some cake. i I want some cake. i don't I don't be eating cake. I like some cakes.
Speaker: Yeah. I'm going to treat myself. Yeah, I...
Speaker: It's hard. The problem I have with this with the dream, like I said about the director, is he seems like he has yeah it wasn't a franchise yet, so yeah I can excuse it. We have to keep in the mindset that like this movie, when it came out, it kind of like...
Speaker: Blew a lot of people's minds and they didn't really understand, I think, because it was such a new idea, you know, and it was very direct for the time. So to come with a sequel, like you're walking into.
Speaker: You're walking into a big-ass hole that you gotta fill. You know what I'm saying? Well, I think he thought he was just making a generic horror movie, so he kind of ignored all the rules and made up his own shit.
Speaker: But it still carried on good. Like, he followed the first one. i think this This dude's, like, going fucking batshit right now. you know what I'm saying? Living in the house that, like... but All the shit went down in? Like, it's crazy. Right. I understand that, but this movie this movie has him, like, you don't have to be dreaming. Like, he pulls him out of the dream.
Speaker: Uh... Like he shows up at the fucking pool. He jumps out of the pool. Because he's gained his power because he's trying to take over Jesse's body. And we see that later, obviously.
Speaker: He's brewing. he's manipulated He's gaslighting well Jesse right now. Because he loves him so fucking much. I guess my point. He loves him so much.
Speaker: i guess I guess the point I'm trying to make is that the ah Jesse is the only person in this movie that sees Freddy in his nightmares. Everybody else sees him in real life. Well, that's what happens. Well, no, not necessarily. all here see Oh, here it is.
Speaker: You've got the body. I've got the brain. Let's make lots of money. You've got the body.
Speaker: I've got the brain.
Speaker: ah But for real, though, like, I think that, like... Look at those contacts. He's obviously, like... he looks That's a shame that Freddy looks so fucking awesome in this movie.
Speaker: Because he's... They made him look... Look, they gave him the pointy chin and the pointy nose. Dude, Freddy's fucking awesome in this movie. He just ripped his fucking scalp off and showed a fucking brain. Yeah, he rips the skin off his scalp and he doesn't a skull. That shit fucked me up when I was a kid, too. he and I loved it. His fucking brain is just right under the skin. like Yeah, it's fucking sweet. I've seen people that look like that. like They got bald heads and they got like it looks like their brain There was a guy walking around Kentucky. like
Speaker: He had to get his like plate taken off, and his girlfriend hit him with a car. Lick my plate, you dog, bitch. He had a metal plate in his head, and it got all fucked up. and He was schizophrenic, unfortunately. and They had to take the plate off, and he wouldn't stay in the hospital. So he left, and everything healed up.
Speaker: and He's got a big divot in his head. He goes, I don't know if I'll go sailing down no hill with nothing between the ground of my brain. This fucking world is fucking nuts.
Speaker: But look how sweaty Jesse is. Well, yeah, this whole movie, the temperature's up. You know, he finally, you know, he goes down and talks to his mom and dad.
Speaker: Like, you know, we're getting into the part where he's getting into, like, getting ready talk to his mom and dad. And he's like, it's fucking hot in here, man. Like, something's wrong. And Bert's like, yeah, something's wrong.
Speaker: Well, we'll get into that here in a second.
Speaker: He's losing sleep. We've seen that. They built that up, right? So he's he's losing sleep, and he's fucking out of his head right now. Yeah, now him and Jesse are firm friends.
Speaker: Well, yeah, they're buddies now, dude. I mean... Look at all that pastel. Is that pinks? and It's 1985, dude.
Speaker: I would fucking love to go sit in a classroom in that era. Oh, yeah. I'd have to get a lot of, like, don't know, immunizations, I guess. don't know what the fuck's... Actually, I'm good.
Speaker: I think I fucking made it through. my My mom. Yeah, I can go back. i i'm I'm good, dude. I've got a fucking steel trap.
Speaker: Yeah, oh man, I remember. He's got a Swatch watch too. Look. Is that a Swatch? Synchronized Swatches.
Speaker: that's why That's why they're buddies. That's why him jesse's got a rodney and Ron are buddies. Jesse's got the Rodney Dangerfield shirt on.
Speaker: is To quote Wayne's World 2,
Speaker: well Is that you or the snake? I don't i don't not understand this scene. This scene is kind of stupid.
Speaker: Like, who put the fucking snake on him? ah You know, that's... And the teachers... You're telling me that fucking snake traveled down all those desks to wrap around his neck.
Speaker: Well, you know what's coming up, though, I do. I do. I'm just talking shit. You know what's coming up, though. i I know. I'm just talking shit.
Speaker: Oh, yeah. See there, Lisa, at the pool, at her fucking at house. At the estate. It's not a house. It's an estate. ah Back then, you didn't have a pool unless you was rich.
Speaker: you have this This is just showing off that Lisa's rich. Well, yeah, they're trying to like show that she's... And it's cold. yeah you It's also cold out there.
Speaker: Yeah,
Speaker: yeah oh my God. But Kevin's favorite scene in the whole movie is coming up. This is where Alan honed all of his dancing skills at the goth club.
Speaker: on This on repeat growing up. Yes,
Speaker: I'll leave the two of you alone. Excuse me. So overwhelmed with so many boxes. What what is he to do? I know what I'm going to do. They should have had Kevin Bacon play this part. but They should have.
Speaker: Remember in... What is that? You got to pop in that mixtape. He got mad. What the fuck is that? Hold up. What is that movie called? Where Kevin Bacon gets mad and starts dancing?
Speaker: Footloose. Footloose. That's it. That's basically the inspiration for this scene, I think. He gets pissed off and he's like, I gotta fucking dance. Yeah, he's bad.
Speaker: I gotta dance. I'll put my stuff away. I'll show you how good I put my stuff away. and have Right, yeah. Because Bert told him to put his shit away. i'll shove I'll shove all my shit in your drawers.
Speaker: Oh. ah
Speaker: I see what you did there. yeah So if you want to look up this song, it's called ah Touch Me All Night Long by Wish. Touch me, baby, all night long.
Speaker: by yeah By the band Wish. What does she say? Find me, hold me, touch me, baby.
Speaker: ah hey ah no oh Fire me before you hire me for vocals.
Speaker: Oh, here's the first set of sunglasses. We got some Ray-Bans. Yeah, first set. And this is, you know, him shoving his shit in the drawers or rocking a baseball cap.
Speaker: It looks like a dunce cap. He's dancing. I mean, this is what you would do if you're a fucking pissed and you're trying to go well swim. Oh. Oh. We're trying to go swim with this fucking rich girl, right? He calls that drawer with his butt, though. Yeah. the same fucking thing.
Speaker: Man, what if that little fucking pop gun blew in his face?
Speaker: Hey, Alan, tell me that you don't have a Simple Mind song on your playlist. Look at those tight pants, man. 1985 dude, denim.
Speaker: We already said. Acid wash. He's ball heavy. Well, yeah, that's what she's been looking at this entire time. She likes those big balls. Holy shit. That's like the whole thing. Like, that's why she's so interested.
Speaker: yeah He was like, he said he was like doofy. He's like, I was i was cleaning in my room. She is like, look at them balls.
Speaker: Look at how many balls he has. Look at the balls.
Speaker: Oh, man. Wouldn't that be great? But look, she comes in and shows him how it's done.
Speaker: Jockage. Yeah. He's like, uh... He's like, you're a girl. Can you clean my room? Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha.
Speaker: Organize me. And funny, he's got Probe as a game. My grandma had that game, Probe. That's what the aliens are going to do to us in November. Although I think it was delayed. Now it's like December.
Speaker: Yeah. Well, the rapture already is supposed to have happened. When the aliens are going to be here. What was it? September 25th, the rapture happened? I don't fucking know. guess we're in hell now. Look, we got a buddy.
Speaker: Look at our spider. I'm left behind. Leave be. Let him just do his thing, man. I don't kill spiders. I was going to... know. He likes the light, dude. He's he's on a trip.
Speaker: Oh, they found Nancy's diary. one One of her diaries. and Doesn't she have fucking two of them in this movie? No, I'm thinking of something else. Yeah, this one's like... It was like up in his closet.
Speaker: Yeah. She's like, look, she used to flick her bean to Johnny Depp across the street. She drew pictures of it. Yeah. That's true. It was that fucking cut-off jersey.
Speaker: So, enter...
Speaker: Horny Jesse. He's sleepwalking. I'd fucking lock my bedroom door. Yeah, like I would lock my myself. like After all these nightmares, I would absolutely lock my ass.
Speaker: I would like give my my friend that came, help me like organize my room. I'd be like, take this key. Here's the lock. Walk me the fuck in my room because I'm doing weird shit.
Speaker: You know? I'm sleepwalking. Which, that's where Freddy's power is in this movie. Because clearly he's a fucking sleepwalker.
Speaker: but is that pizza? Never mind. No, it was a fucking rake. And I noticed that when I watched this, I was like, who the fuck hangs their rake up in the basement?
Speaker: That's a garage or shed item. Am I wrong? I don't know. Fucking... Ollie's got the Freddy glove. You know, I almost bought a Freddy glove at fucking Spirit Halloween.
Speaker: But they got one on... Shit. Shit. I saw this. this Trick or Treat. that's sure Go ahead. Sorry. Oh, no. You go ahead.
Speaker: The Trick or Treat Studios has a Freddy glove that's like $250. But, man. It's fucking sweet. I've seen that one. It's tempting, but I'm not a huge Freddy fan. But, man, the glove is cool.
Speaker: I was at Whorehound some years ago in, like, There was a vendor there that had like like straight like different types of Freddy gloves, and they were actually made out of metal.
Speaker: It was fucking sweet. like I thought about just making one. yeah it looks It looks like ah soldered, not welded. like he He uses the kitchen knives. like You remember the beginning of the first one?
Speaker: It was kind of like... He was filing down different razors. They look like like ah straight razors is what they look like. I wonder if... um Terrifier was paying homage to that because they kind of did the same thing at the beginning of the first Terrifier where it shows them at the beginning...
Speaker: Getting everything ready. and Yeah, like behind the scenes kind of thing. Absolutely. It was a homage. Absolutely. I don't know. Maybe. Maybe.
Speaker: oh ah When are we getting to the gay shit, man? Come on. Honestly, like, in that documentary, in that fucking documentary, this whole fucking movie is, but that's what I'm saying, like,
Speaker: it's i don't I don't fucking view it as that. And I'm going to argue it. like it's This is a great fucking follow-up. Regardless of how much of a fucking goddamn weirdo the director is, this goddamn movie is incredible. I don't think he's a weirdo. He's just fucking clueless. This is an incredible sequel.
Speaker: I think it follows up great. like Some new motherfuckers get in. This fucking... The coach, dude, like...
Speaker: It harbors our fucking fear of coaches in school, as we talked about earlier. It, like, just bruises it. It bruises it.
Speaker: So, obviously, that director had the same shit happen to him that happened to us when we're, you know, his fears. You know what I'm saying? So, i think that speaks.
Speaker: we We come in and we got Bert yawning. And it's fucking hot as shit. I want to go into this scene because... He says it's 97 fucking degrees.
Speaker: Yeah. And now, just now, it's 97 degrees. And he's like... He's like, I guess I'll... And that hasn't even... That hasn't even tipped it. Let's go into this fucking...
Speaker: One eternity later. So now the temperature's in the fucking house. It's up to, like, 97 degrees. is that Is that what Bert's talking? 97. And he's like, oh, i better turn the temperature down. He's like, something's wrong here.
Speaker: takes the faceplate out. Finally, after, you know, all this stuff. So now the Bert starts freaking out. Bert's like... Lift the curtain.
Speaker: going to brain it. I'm going to brain it with a pickaxe.
Speaker: That's not a bad question, Bert. It's not a bad question, Bert. And Jesse's like, I don't know what to do, Bert.
Speaker: The bird fucking clips Bert. the bird red bird the bird a word bird of The bird, bird, bird. bird is a word. Yeah, and you know he fucking blames the shit on Jesse. Yeah, he does.
Speaker: How could this fucking bird is fucking going nuts? it Because everybody's... It's hot, and the bird's going batshit. but That's cultural appropriation. I love the first-person perspective from the bird. Looking at everybody, and then it it explodes.
Speaker: Wow. Wow. And a burst of green feathery confetti. ah Yeah, he's sprinkled. It's got to be the gas line.
Speaker: So Bert's trying to pull the fucking because he's like, it's got to be the fucking gas line. It's like just burning and burning. That don't make no goddamn sense.
Speaker: He's got this big-ass band-aid on his fucking face. Bert's awesome, dude. like I fucking love this guy. Oh, and he hit his head on the hood.
Speaker: He's like, fuck you. Fuck you. Fuck you. Yeah. You're cool. Yeah. he looks at he He looks at the daughter and he's like, you're cool. He's like, I'm out. I would have been out, dude. Like, straight up. Like, I would have been fuck out there.
Speaker: Soon as I hit my head on the hood of that fucking stove, I would have been like, honey, I'm going out to the garage. don't want to be out there for a while.
Speaker: I need to go out here and masturbate. need to go out here and... I need some clarity. Yeah. It's crazy, dude. there's This movie's chaos from the start, and that's why it's beautiful.
Speaker: like There's no slow parts to this fucking movie. I mean, honestly, it's straight chaos from the get-go. He's cold. He's cold. Zach called, though.
Speaker: This is a dream. fucking Zach, though? Like, that's written on the board. Lightning. ah Man, come on. You know it's a dream when lightning hits your dishes.
Speaker: ha.
Speaker: He's sleepwalking, though. It's gay bar time. You know, I've had, I've got stories of my sleepwalking. I'll be honest. And I've done it.
Speaker: And I've fucking done it, but I have never walked my happy ass. To any kind of bar in my life. There was a time where I pulled some hammers out of my, like, hardware drawer and just set them on the counter and then, like, turned on the faucet to my sink.
Speaker: But that's about the extent of it. I've never... gone unconsciously to like this crazy goth bar that he's going into this looks like outland the original outland back in the day i was gonna say uh i ain't gonna lie dude like this is straight up what it felt like or uh mustards like going into mustards for the first time this is exactly what it felt like two thousand years later He clearly wants something.
Speaker: ah He gets his butt snapped with some towels. He's clearly, which the irony is here, like, this coach is, like, really fucking weird and borderline pederast.
Speaker: The irony is that Freddy's a fucking pederast and is taking his ass down. Maybe Freddy's jealous. Well, he's taking. Well, well, see, Freddy is.
Speaker: I mean, Freddy did diddle some kids. Absolutely. That's what I'm saying. Like, that's why I can only like I is after after his butt. He wants that. But he wants that. But in this motherfucker, this motherfucker got in the way.
Speaker: Oh, he wants Jesse's butt. No, yeah, he wants Jesse's butt, but the fucking coach was probably preparing to rape Jesse. Boom! Ah, shit, I missed it.
Speaker: The coach was probably preparing to rape Jesse, and Freddie was like, no, that's my ass. I'm going fucking towel whip you into oblivion. Freddie snaps him in the fucking ass.
Speaker: I'll tell you what, as ass snapping with towels might seem friendly, but he's fucking so he was fucking snapping him with the strength of ten men.
Speaker: You will remember for a lifetime the first time that you ever got slapped in the ass with a fucking towel. He's like, bro, why are you wearing a sweater in the fucking shower?
Speaker: Why are you wearing a sweater? The only way to go out with your shoes on. oh yeah. This is another thing, man. I don't know if I like in this sequel that Freddy is kind of using Jesse to kill people.
Speaker: Well, yeah, he is. He's possessed him. is Oh, wait a minute. Wait a minute. You know what this is, right? the fucking scene where the police bring Jesse home?
Speaker: I was driving around and I saw one of those washrooms, right? And I had to take the- His pants were down by his goddammit! I had to take the biggest pee in the world!
Speaker: Good evening, guys. Does this belong to you? Yes, sir. He's my son. And we found him out on the highway wandering around. he was naked. I'd keep a short leash on him if I were you. And I went into this washroom, and it was full of those types, you know, queers and queens and queens. And one of them grabbed me by... Do it.
Speaker: Yeah, you're already in. You're already in. He said, well...
Speaker: Tell me this isn't that scene. It's absolutely that scene from Brain Candy. did yeah ah Did you have to bring him home naked? Yeah. Because that was his idea. Yeah.
Speaker: His pants were down by his goddamn ankles. He goes, what does he say? He's...
Speaker: One of them gripped me by the buttocks and pulled me closer. You mean him? I was concerned he might fall. I mean, his pants were down around his goddamn ankles.
Speaker: Tell me this isn't that fucking scene. It's absolutely that scene. this ah Look, in this like dude, the guy on the fucking right, that white dude, he's fucking laughing about it. Yeah. He's like, dude, what fuck's going on?
Speaker: And Bert's like, bring him in. I'm going to brain him. You're going to brain him with that axe. Yeah. I had to take the biggest pee in the world.
Speaker: Tell me that's not that scene. That's absolutely, it was, yeah, it it was Dead to Rights. I don't even know which one came out first. Was it this or Brain Candy? It was definitely this one.
Speaker: It's 85, dude. ah Brain candy was like late 90s, my dude. Yeah. oh He's naked, too. Bert's like, on that pot?
Speaker: ah you on are you on po Are you on the Marijuana? Are you on that pot? Where did I go wrong?
Speaker: He's like, was it all the neglect? And then we notice that Bert is securing the windows much like Nancy's mother did. Bert got fucked up by that bird. We forgot to mention that, too. He's got a band-aid. Yeah, got a big-ass band-aid on face. He's a band-aid on his face.
Speaker: The one they didn't brain. They didn't brain it with the axe before a fucking snagged him.
Speaker: That bird was in the cage going, What are
Speaker: we going to do, Bert?
Speaker: ah Bert's like, What are we going to do, Bert?
Speaker: I'll call my friend Ernie Cochton Bruner. Bruner. Who the hell's Ernie Cochton Bruner? But can you trust that bastard? Yeah.
Speaker: Oh, okay. Let's not... Oh, that's a fine line because we'll get into that fucking movie. Yeah. You mean ah Return of Living Dead?
Speaker: don't say that Don't say it. All right, so we got Jesse. He's like running up. He's like, what the fuck, dude? His buddy Ron's like, man... Like, it's just fucked up, dude that Someone killed our gay coach. Yeah.
Speaker: Someone killed the gay coach. Someone had enough of the coach's shit.
Speaker: They were like, big gay coach down. coach down. gay codes sound
Speaker: I gotta get me another beer. let me Let me talk here for minute while Alan's getting a beer. I'm gonna go pee. I'll give you a second to talk because I gotta go pee.
Speaker: Look at them balls. Look at them balls. You are so dumb. You are really dumb. For real. So Jesse is waking up and like again sweaty as shit.
Speaker: Clearly a bunch of shit went down. Coach is dead.
Speaker: Wait, Coach is dead?
Speaker: The coach is dead. Oh, shit. He got butt snapped. Yeah, he got butt snapped to death. And then slashed.
Speaker: He got butt snapped to death. Let's move on. i feel like there's something. We'll be right back. So he's like walking in, and he sees like one of the girls singing like the Freddie chime.
Speaker: You mean the... dead didn
Speaker: do do Do the Freddy chime. He's burnt up like a... He wears the same hat and sweater every single day. And even if it's on outside, he wears them anyway.
Speaker: She was jumping rope singing that to him. Nightmare on my street. He's burnt up like a weenie and his name is Fred.
Speaker: He opens the door and she's rapping it at him.
Speaker: Jesus Christ. Oh yeah. Fucking Lisa takes Jesse to the plant, the factory. Yeah. The actual play plot where he took everybody. The factory that just that Freddie worked at because because I'm because that's where Freddie took all the kids.
Speaker: Well, I'm confused with that because people like, you know, they say they say like the the house that he lives in. I think that was later, though. That was later. They burned him in his factory that he worked in.
Speaker: Yeah, they cornered him because he's ah That's where he ran because that's where he kept the kids. Because he was diddler. So they kept, in this one, they still kept the theory of Fred Krueger, right?
Speaker: He had a cool idea with the glove, though. Say what you want. Yeah, he did.
Speaker: He was like, I might diddle kids, but check out this glove. Yeah, this glove is fucking sweet, dude. Like, it was, yeah, again, brand new idea for the time.
Speaker: You know, it's incredible. And I gotta to give his girl credit because she's sticking with him even after. She clearly knows he's fucking crazy.
Speaker: Oh, dude. That's his ride or die right there. That is. And she fucking loves him, right? like And they make out here in a little bit, actually. But like you know clearly. He's like, ew. Gross. Gross.
Speaker: ah hardest The hardest part of his career, I'm sure. But, like, you know, whatever. Yeah, yeah he's like, it's not even that you're a ginger. It's because you're a woman.
Speaker: it's because she's a ginger. Yeah. yeah he goes That's turned him gay. He's gay because she's a ginger. Yeah.
Speaker: It affected them that bad. Yeah. Oh, my God. I could say that because I'm a quarter ginger, so it's cool.
Speaker: What the fuck does that mean? I am You got red balls. Dude. My grandfather on my mother's side was a fucking day walker. He's like, my grandma i had the biggest, reddest bush.
Speaker: No, my grandfather did. grandfather. ah Oh. ah Dude, he was so ginger, he was fucking transparent, um my dude.
Speaker: For real. ah he He was... Like, I saw through him. I saw his, like, circulatory system. He was luminescent. That's how ginger my grandfather was.
Speaker: He was luminescent. Oh, we get... oh ah The first person perspective. He's like a glowworm. And he's coming up from the basement.
Speaker: ah You a fucking... um
Speaker: oh this is where Jesse comes up from the basement. Yeah, because Jesse got the glove, and he's going into his sister's room. Pervin' on his sister. ah Yeah, and he gets right to him.
Speaker: I want your body. I i like your body. But then like he's like, oh shit.
Speaker: ah You know what saying? Like... You know, um i think this scene was one of the things that Wes Craven... The pool scene. I think this was one of the things that Wes Craven said he didn't want to be attached to this movie for. Because this scene out of all the scenes?
Speaker: Well, I mean... A genuine Freddy Krueger scene. Like, a whole cookout? Like, your whole 50s cookout, and Freddy comes out and annihilates?
Speaker: Right, but he's not in a dream, for one. That's one strike. Two strikes is Wes Craven didn't want Freddy Krueger to be shorter.
Speaker: get that. i guess He didn't want him to be like the little guy and he does kind of come out because I think Robert England was like 5 foot 10, which isn't which is average, I guess.
Speaker: But as Freddy Krueger, you want him, you know, like with Jason, they don't want him to be smaller than, I don't know. But, um, and also it shows him in the, you see him in full light and everything. So he kind of just didn't like this scene.
Speaker: I don't know why, honestly. Like, I think this scene's fucking sweet. Um... Oh, and Lisa tries to bang Jesse. Well, they start going for it, right? They start going for it.
Speaker: But, again, Freddy's taking over him. And he's getting close. It's like the whole fucking demonic position thing. Oh, you're inside me, Freddy.
Speaker: Right. Freddy is all about wanting to be inside Jesse. he wants to get up in them guts. He does. any And he does.
Speaker: He does technically get up in them guts. And we'll be coming up and investing here soon. Well... ah i'll I'll tell you, when I was a kid, I thought this was the coolest fucking scene ever.
Speaker: Me too. I fucking loved it because I used to go to Devonshire Pool in Columbus, Ohio growing up. And there was a lot of fucking goddamn bullies there.
Speaker: And after I saw this movie... Like, when those bullies would get me, I wished that Freddy Krueger would come up out of the fucking pool. Kill them, motherfuckers. And annihilate these sons of bitches. You wished death on people that were picking on you.
Speaker: No, I just wished that Freddy Krueger got them. So it was like... You know what I'm saying? It wasn't wishing death. i was just wishing Freddy Krueger.
Speaker: That's the same thing, man. is not?
Speaker: I wanna... Let's put it into reality. wanna wish Robert Englund come in and fuck these people up. Robert Englund? Yeah.
Speaker: Five foot... All five foot ten of them? Yeah, all 5'10 of coming in and beating these bullies up. let's Let's look at it in that perspective. This fucking pool scene comes out of it nowhere, kind of, because I honestly never even put it together that Lisa was rich because of They only show, like, the one scene of her swimming in the pool, which is the setup for this because, you know...
Speaker: Who else fucking... I get it. i get all of that. And... I always thought this scene was weird because it's clear that, like, she's, like, this rich kid or whatever.
Speaker: They went into way too much background with the parents, like... But I get it because... touching her boobies? it sir It's her fucking birthday or whatever.
Speaker: You know... Oh, a fratty tongue. There it is. You see that? Fucking, he was touching her boobies and it made his... You know, if we were teenagers then, this movie probably would have hit us a little harder.
Speaker: Well, I'll tell you this. I do know that being older and seeing the pool scene, i was a little disappointed because when I was a kid, i was like, man, this is the coolest thing ever because when he...
Speaker: jumps out of the pool and says, ah you're all my children now. Yeah. I mean, but it's true for Well, he kills, think, three people.
Speaker: And when I was younger, i was like, you know, i i remembered it. He slaughtered everybody. Yeah. I remembered it differently, but I think he only kills like three people during that scene, which is ah which is about to happen here because, you know, we're watching it on my laptop here.
Speaker: I remembered this as being a lot more brutal than it was, but it's really kind of tame.
Speaker: It is. absolutely is. But that's me speaking from a 2025 lens where, you know, we've had movies that just, like Terrifier, you know, movies like that where it's just all gore, no fucking...
Speaker: But yeah, I remembered this a lot different than it actually turned out to be because I remember when I first saw this as a kid, I was like, this is the fucking craziest shit I ever saw. yeah But as adult- You related. as Well, as an adult watching it, I was like, ah that's not so bad. He only killed three people. Well, you're a fucking adult.
Speaker: you know You know, like when this shit came out when you saw it, you're a fucking kid. here will He only killed three people, Kevin. But it's still. All these motherfuckers looking in this fucking house, they're like, oh.
Speaker: This burned up motherfucker with knife hands. Yeah, look how fucking slimy and shit he is. like they It's awesome. Right, but you remember ah New Nightmare, was it? He just looked like a plastic doll or something. Well, we'll get into that at another time.
Speaker: but Well, I'll have to... i I really have to re-watch all these movies because I'm not... um
Speaker: i We'll get into it at another time for sure because New Nightmare is one of those... like
Speaker: Look at that. A lot of discussion. Look at that. He doesn't even have a glove. He's just got, he's got like Wolverine fucking, uh, because he took over Jesse's body knives coming out of his fingies because he has embodied Jesse.
Speaker: I'm scared of Grady.
Speaker: Something is trying to get inside my body. Yeah, and she's female and she's waiting for you in the cabana. And you want to sleep with me. Look, I don't care if you believe me or not. What if every time Freddy came out of Jesse, Jesse just moaned like it was the... Yeah, I wish it would happen, Michael. Ugh.
Speaker: Oh, Freddy. Oh. ah I know that I would be, as soon as the beer started, as soon as all the beer started, like, popping off, I'd be like, I'm out of here. Well,
Speaker: I'd be out of there as soon as the little guy with the fucking claw glove jumped out of the pool. i would have been out there before then. Look, one. There's one. Okay, that's fine.
Speaker: get it. I get it. There's one. But he's losing power. up. I got my hand hurt. Yeah, he got his hand burned, but... Water's boiling.
Speaker: We got one. We don't know how many people fell into the pool, though. So you can't say there's just three. Because there's two that fell in the fucking pool. Mom and dad was banging, and they got interrupted.
Speaker: there's There's at least five right there. Nope. Dude tried to like jump the fence and like died in a pile of flames. You know in movies, if you don't see someone die, doesn't they're not dead.
Speaker: Bullshit. I saw two people jump in the water. There's two. There's six. That's two. That's six. Freddy didn't kill anyone else. There's two people that jumped in the pool before it caught fire.
Speaker: Look, that's Two people jumped the fence before they caught fire. This is why Wes Craven was like, fuck this shit. Because Freddy's, look, that dude's taller than him.
Speaker: That's fine, but it still looks awesome. He's got a big ass head. It doesn't matter. He's just trying to be nice to Freddy. Freddy's got a little head. um They bought that hat for him at fucking Keds or something.
Speaker: I bet he's got little hard-soled booties on. thought it was really stupid that they had a guy here. That's number seven. ah That's three. That's 2.5.
Speaker: Look, you're all my children now. And he's got the fucking, uh, he's, oh, dad with the shotgun. And he has the fucking security board. Look at those eyes though.
Speaker: but One of the, probably the best looking. What are you doing? Why do you want to shoot this random guy? Probably the best looking Freddy. He's awesome in this. i don't give a fuck.
Speaker: The problem is... oh hey he's the Pardon me. The problem is he's not that intimidating looking.
Speaker: He is menace, but he doesn't look the part. Like, if you saw Freddy, wouldn't you just be like, fuck this guy, ah hit him with something?
Speaker: If some fucking dude boiled, if I had a pool... and some asshole boiled the water in my pool that people were trying to sleep in then jumped out and started fucking slashing people.
Speaker: be fucking pissed. Fuck that guy. I'd fucking shoot him. Imagine Freddy dying from getting shot. okay the fucking um nice ball Imagine Freddy if they ended the series because Freddy got shot.
Speaker: ah They should have fucking shot him.
Speaker: Insane. And Lisa, Lisa, this is the the final set piece. all These fucking weird dog things, dude, are awesome.
Speaker: Yeah, if you watch it And they're really fucking weird. Let me say, Kevin watched this on VHS on 13-inch screen.
Speaker: It doesn't, they're not as awesome on Blu-ray. I just watched it on your laptop and they look pretty sweet. They look like dogs with masks on. They look like dogs with masks on on the VHS too.
Speaker: But it's still fucking sweet. It's fucking weird. and what How imaginative, right? Like how fucked up is that? It's Aphex Twin. Right. I love it.
Speaker: Come to daddy all day. Come to daddy. Yep. Yeah, dude. I'm a window licker.
Speaker: as You know what I'm saying?
Speaker: Yeah. Yeah. It looks like. It was fucking sweet. Yeah. So sweet. I'm surprised they didn't do Freddy faces on though. It's really weird.
Speaker: they Yeah, I mean, they could have done anything, but I don't know what the fuck the masks were. They were sweet, is what it was. It's a dream sequence. It's supposed to make you feel, like, fucked up.
Speaker: That's the beauty of these movies, is it's like this weird fucking fantasy because it's all in a realm of nightmare. So. Yep. Oh, I fucking hated this at the end when he's scraping his fucking nails. Yeah, that shit's always been, like, irritating as fuck. God,
Speaker: Come on, man. Come on, man. Like, what's she what's he you wanting anything to do with her for anyway? She's not a child.
Speaker: That's a full-grown woman with boobies. But she's the daughter of the child that he wasn't able to get a hold of and the daughter of the families that have fucking taken him down. Because he was a diddler?
Speaker: Because he was a diddler.
Speaker: Ugh. You're making me feel hungry. So in the argument between like if you're a Friday the 13th fan or Nightmare on Elm Street, if you're a Friday the 13th fan, it means you don't like a diddler.
Speaker: Right. So team Friday the 13th. Well, you know, like Nightmare on Elm Street, it's a whole different realm of horror. Again, it's like a new vision of horror.
Speaker: Friday the 13th was a slasher, and that's what was going on during that era. I mean, how many slashers came out? A million. Right. Nightmare on Elm Street was a whole new idea.
Speaker: Of a slasher. Because this is technically a slasher. But this isn't like... It's a slasher where the slasher acts a fool. Well, it's completely different, though.
Speaker: It's not some weird fucking Look, from like, that's right. What the fuck is happening? She's just like, ain't scared of you. so Because he fucking possessed Jesse. Jesse.
Speaker: Yeah, and Jesse's inside wishing she was Grady. Freddie's inside Jesse as much as Jesse's inside Freddie. Balls deep in Jesse. Right, balls deep. and oh she kissed him.
Speaker: So at this point in the movie, he is losing his power because all of all he can think about is Grady and how sad he is. No, because she says she loved him.
Speaker: She said she loved him? And that's what brought Freddy all the way down. He's like, I can't handle this. This relationship's going too far too quick.
Speaker: Bitches be tripping.
Speaker: Yep. Yeah, like, he's gonna die in fire even though he's melted. his his whole body has been on fire.
Speaker: All it took was love, dude. That's like the... ah ah They're doing like the... remember... when This movie came out and hit HBO.
Speaker: And then, like, about a week after it was out, they released, like, the behind-the-scenes, you know, special edition, pumping this movie up or whatever. It was really awesome.
Speaker: And they were, like, showing all... I remember seeing all this stuff, especially when his face started melting off. They were, like, showing all that shit. It was really cool, like, how they did it.
Speaker: i I think I was like eight years old, nine, ten maybe. This is funny, though, because, like, um I just don't get it.
Speaker: I mean, i don't know. i got to rewatch this whole series. I don't think any of them tie together, though. None of them do, man. It's all a different fucking vision of fucking Freddy fucking your day up.
Speaker: Because Freddy came out of Jesse. And here at the end, Jesse is coming out of Freddy. Yeah. So, Freddie got cooties because she kissed him. And that's what rotted Freddie was cooties.
Speaker: So, she kissed Freddie. Freddie got cooties. Freddie fucking died. Jesse came back. Right? Sure.
Speaker: and they obviously end the movie with the setup for the sequel. Oh, yeah. I'm sorry, dude. They're like, of course Freddy's not dead. Because in part one, you know, he's picking him up in that fucking Plymouth Fury, and the top rolls up, and it's Freddy's sweater color. Did you see he's riding a short bus?
Speaker: Well, they were all kind of short back then. Look. And there are a couple now. Yeah. Everything's perfect. Everything's pastel. Purples, blues, yellow, pastels.
Speaker: hu Pasta. Hey.
Speaker: Hi, Duke. I got a dog over here resting his face on me. It's your best friend. Aw, you want give me kisses? He loves you so much.
Speaker: Alan, he loves you so much. But see, we end this movie on a high note. They drive off into the desert. but I know. Was that the dream? that Was it?
Speaker: Or was that whole movie a dream? And then he woke up to the reality that his reality is his dream. We will never know. Because we don't give a fuck. We don't give a fuck. That's about us's about right.
Speaker: But we do. But we don't. I don't give a shit. I like this movie well enough. fuck awesome Friday the 3rd Nightmare on Elm Street. Oops, I said the fucking Friday the 13th. Violent nature.
Speaker: No, don't mention it.
Speaker: This movie is fucking awesome. Like, I don't give a fuck. Like, whatever is is fucking awesome. Great follow-up to the to Nightmare and on Elm Street.
Speaker: I don't know. I liked it well enough. it's Yeah, it was good, man. It good follow-up. I got to watch all of them to decide which one is my favorite.
Speaker: They all are fun. I think ah Dream Warriors is the most popular one. It's kind of like the Friday the 13th Part 6. It's absolutely Friday 13th Part 6. It's absolutely that. So I'll have to go through them all and see but ah Because ah in my memory, Dream Warriors is the best one, but I'll have to go through them.
Speaker: Whee!
Speaker: yeah I still remember dogging dude rockin with dogging rockin with dogging yeah man anyway I don't know we gotta wrap this up because it's been going on for quite a while now happy Halloween this gonna be your Halloween episode happy Halloween well it'll be in October anyway yeah It'll be a silly one for you.
Speaker: I'm going to try to leave in as much as the bullshit as I can because we were fucking... I leave in all the stuff with Kevin Pien and everything. Yeah, you know.
Speaker: All his love for violent nature. But anyway... Thank you everybody for fucking listening to us this entire time.
Speaker: um yeah It's incredible. we We much appreciate it Happy fucking October and Halloween because the best month ever.
Speaker: The best fucking month ever. so Agreed. Yeah. So I guess that's it. Bye. Fuckin' violence.






