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Sleepaway Camp 1983
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Welcome to Deadnotes—the horror podcast that packs a flashlight, forgets the bug spray, and always dies first in the canoe.
Tonight, we’re pitching our tent in the blood-soaked woods of Sleepaway Camp, the 1983 slasher that asks: what if summer camp had fewer s’mores and more trauma?
We’ve got it all—awkward teens, crop tops tighter than the plot, and a twist ending that made VHS players across America pause in stunned silence. Seriously, if you know, you know. If you don’t… buckle up, buttercup.
We’ll roast the kills, toast the tropes, and dig into the behind-the-scenes madness that turned this low-budget oddball into a cult classic with one of horror’s most infamous final shots.
So grab your whistle, dodge the curling iron, and remember: at Camp Arawak, the counselors are sketchy, the cook is worse, and the lake is just one big murder magnet.
This is Deadnotes. Let’s get weird.
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Transcript
Introduction and Humor
00:00:24
Speaker
Hello, welcome to dead notes, a horror and cult film podcast. I am Kevin and with me is a poor fellow whose aunt really just wanted a girl and that's why he walks like one.
00:00:38
Speaker
I do walk like a lady. I'm Alan, and we're talking about Sleepaway Camp 1983, I'd be lying if I said I knew what the fuck a sleepaway camp was.
00:00:57
Speaker
Well, yeah, why are you sleeping away, too? sleeping away? Why are you sleeping away? are you sleeping away? Doesn't it just mean camp? isn't it Isn't it long form for camp?
Sleepaway Camp Film Discussion
00:01:15
Speaker
Pretty much. you have You have to add the sleep away.
00:01:22
Speaker
done my i don't even really know. um I don't even really know the origin of that. I guess I should have looked into that a little better. You go camping all the time.
00:01:34
Speaker
I was a Boy Scout and I don't fucking know. And I sleep away. You gotta sleep. You gotta sleep. You gotta sleep even when the raccoons are running around that tent.
00:01:47
Speaker
ah You gotta sleep with your chest up, butt to the ground so of them and counselors don't get you. Yeah, make sure you sleep really good.
00:01:57
Speaker
You gotta clench up.
00:02:01
Speaker
Clench up. the this This movie is a fucking banger. i love it. it is It is. It was way ahead of its fucking day. um Yeah, it was definitely stellar fucking movie.
00:02:18
Speaker
it's ah This is how low-budget movies should be made. yeah i don't know... I don't know what the... It was like a $350,000 budget and they made $11 million on this motherfucker.
00:02:35
Speaker
That's why you get all those shitty sequels, though. Unfortunately. Well, man, i don't know, dude. The second one was awesome. I think the second one was awesome. And, you know, and it was just it was just... It was meant for...
00:02:54
Speaker
so You know, just slasher fans. I mean, it was it was obviously taking stabs at everything, you know? Well, the 2008 Return to Sleepaway Camp, that one was direct ah that that one was directed by ah Robert Hiltzik. Hiltzik is how you I think it's how you say it.
00:03:16
Speaker
But yeah that's supposed to continue the this storyline. you know so it kind of it kind of ignores all the other sequels I don't know I don't really bring it back around.
00:03:32
Speaker
Yeah. Continuity in the sleep away. It's fucking fun ass movie. You don't, you don't need. Yeah. Continuities, whatever. I mean, you watch the rest. It's they're just, they're fun.
00:03:44
Speaker
And you know, there's no long drag in this movie. Um, honestly, it's pretty much from the start. I mean, you're already on the ride, you know, it's, it's you're, you're in it.
00:03:58
Speaker
And, uh, You don't really know. yeah They throw so many red herrings on this movie, you know, and it's crazy to me. Like the,
00:04:11
Speaker
where he came up with the come around for this, you know, it's, it's wild, you know, cause it was definitely ahead of his day, you know? oh well, you know what, uh, speaking, uh, I'm sorry to change the subject, but you know, speaking of box office, you know, what movie this beat the fuck out of in 1983, certain little three d film that you're a big fan of Amityville.
00:04:41
Speaker
Oh, he did Amityville three d No, he didn't do Amityville 3D. Amityville 3D came out in the same year and Sleepaway Camp kicked its fucking ass.
00:04:53
Speaker
Well, of course. I mean, yeah, because this ah we already we already had the Amityville. So we already had the Amityville and then they had two, which was great. I like two and then three. i fucking love three.
00:05:06
Speaker
But this movie coming out around and of course it would because everybody was still all about slashers during that era, you know, paranormal movies really kind of went, or underground, not underground, but they they didn't receive as much attention when they went into the sequels of it as much as the slasher.
00:05:27
Speaker
Because people wanted to see... those characters come back in some way, you know, or whatever. But yeah, so I can completely see why sleepaway camp would do it because you're going into it thinking, Oh man, you know, you know, you're fresh out of Friday 13th and shit.
00:05:44
Speaker
You're going into this whole new fucking idea, you know, at the height of going to camp for the summer, you know,
00:05:54
Speaker
Well, I only mention it because we were talking about it because I i got the anaglyph version of it on. Yeah. DB on Blu-ray recently. But it's of course. she's I can't.
00:06:10
Speaker
Well, umm I got Jaws 3D because I know. You need to invite me look over for a sleepaway and we got to Jaws 3D and then we got to do, yeah, we got to do a sleepaway camp. We can do it. We can go in your backyard reenact the ending of this movie.
00:06:29
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. I was hoping so. My wife comes out and then, you know, you're just going, and
00:06:40
Speaker
but you have a vagina. Yeah.
00:06:44
Speaker
Oh, yeah. Plus, you have you have you have three vaginas. Yeah, it goes the other way. It's got be weird, though. they They can't be like symmetrical. They got to be like zigzagged.
00:06:56
Speaker
It's got to look like somebody hit me with a hatchet. Looks like somebody took a baseball bat your vaginas. To my diner.
00:07:11
Speaker
It's funny because, ah well, I won't even mention that. look You know, just for, because I'm always the downer, you know, Mike Kellen that plays Mel, he died soon after the filming of this movie.
00:07:29
Speaker
Only because, you know, I gotta mention the low point at the beginning of every episode now. I guess what? It's not all sunshine and rainbows.
00:07:42
Speaker
i think ah I think it's terrible because could you imagine being a kid nowadays watching this movie and wondering if that's how people really dressed? Because I think everyone in this movie was wearing Daisy Dukes and crop tops.
00:07:58
Speaker
Fuck yeah, they are You were wearing that the last time we were hanging out. don't know what you're talking about. what was you What was your fucking number? Like, oh, you did the 69 because you're fucking crazy.
00:08:11
Speaker
I had my crop top. I had my Daisy Dukes cut so high that you could see the pockets. You could see the pockets hanging out the bottom. All the pockets.
00:08:23
Speaker
All the moose knuckle.
00:08:27
Speaker
Saw your prison wallet.
00:08:31
Speaker
I think, ah speaking a which, we'll get to it, but I think Ronnie is inappropriate. ah ra Yeah, you think so? I don't think I'd let Ronnie around my kids.
00:08:46
Speaker
ah all You don't think you're going to put Ronnie around your kids? What about fucking Artie? Hey man ah that's ah That's obvious But Ronnie Ronnie I don't know he seemed he
Camp Memories and Humor
00:09:05
Speaker
ah I was I don't know i'm not goingnna he plays a lot of softball That's Gene that plays the softball Ronnie ain't even out there Dude, he dressed just like all my older cousins when I was like a kid going to family reunions. I swear, dude.
00:09:27
Speaker
I had three at least three cousins that wore fucking crop tops in the big event. It was at fucking Sharon Woods. You remember Sharon Woods? It's still it's still there. It's still available.
00:09:40
Speaker
um But we used to go there and the big fucking thing was these goddamn softball games. And like they didn't give a shit if you're her like seven like I was or not.
00:09:53
Speaker
If you got up there and like struck out, you're playing against all these fucking high schoolers and 20 and 30, 40 year old drunk motherfuckers, you know, and they're like bitching at you because you're not fucking hitting shit.
00:10:07
Speaker
But I swear, like, there's three of them. Knee-high fucking socks, and you saw all the pockets, and then the crop top, just like you wore the other day.
00:10:20
Speaker
Well, yeah, but I make that shit look good. you do. You got to shave. Go ahead. No, I was just
00:10:31
Speaker
yeah you guys shave but huh go and so know That lightning bolt you did pretty sweet. You to shave before you leave the house in some shorts like that, and I don't mean your legs.
00:10:48
Speaker
See, you're a proper lady because you don't shave above the knee because that's for a woman of the night. um larry Everything else. a night So it looks like you're wearing like furry shorts, biker shorts.
00:11:00
Speaker
button a Button with a button on a fur coat. Mm-hmm.
00:11:07
Speaker
You say button in a fur coat. Button on a fur coat. ah that little That little wiener poking out from the hair. Yeah.
00:11:20
Speaker
ah
00:11:23
Speaker
Yeah. all right Alright. we open this fucking movie to like like i like I was saying earlier this movie just fires off. Like there's no I mean there's there's character development but it's all it's not boring. Like it keeps you going the way they introduce everybody. There's
Analyzing Sleepaway Camp Scenes
00:11:43
Speaker
character development?
00:11:44
Speaker
I mean, just with like the the surrounding people in this movie, usually sometimes it can get pretty boring. You know what I'm saying? like They drag it out or whatever. but and It's not that it's boring, but it just depends. but This movie is just so fast-paced that like the way they just kind of throw everybody in, it works. It works great, I think. I don't know.
00:12:05
Speaker
We don't need no stinking character development. Yeah. but
00:12:15
Speaker
Damn right.
00:12:17
Speaker
Yeah, so we go into a the lake. It opens to like the lake and everything. you know and it's It's beautiful and peaceful. Everybody's swimming. you know and
00:12:34
Speaker
And it's Kevin with his dad and his brother on a boat. but Yeah. ah yeah Yeah. That's exactly what it was in his secret life. you know It's so funny because it's like the you know the movie opens with like this douchebag lifeguard driving a boat with his girlfriend who's nagging him to get to drive. the She wants to drive the boat.
00:13:01
Speaker
yeah And as soon as he hands her it, As soon as he lets her drive, she kills people. She fucking, yeah. As soon as he gives her the wheel, she fucking beelines for a family.
00:13:17
Speaker
They're like, you should have let the dude drive. Every hit every time every time she like begs him to like drive his car, she gets in and completely beelines for a fucking curb. he's like yeah he's same fucking thing. yeah Yeah, it's not doing great things for the feminist movement here. This is pretty bad. She fucked it up for complete whole family. Woohoo!
00:13:49
Speaker
Yeah, completely. That shit is so funny because it's he hands her the wheel and she immediately kills people.
00:14:00
Speaker
It was like immediate beeline. He's like, here you go. He's like, Jesus Christ, here you go. And she's like, woohoo.
00:14:10
Speaker
What that boy needed was some post nut clarity. Yeah, it just would have been that would have been awkward. Mm hmm.
00:14:20
Speaker
Absolutely. You know that scene in Austin Powers when he's about to run that dude over with a fucking steamroller and he's just standing there. It's like they see him. They see the family from a mile away and they can't steer out of the way. It's literally if you just nudge the steering wheel, you wouldn't have ran them over. Right. Right.
00:14:44
Speaker
She was so excited to be driving a boat, though. Yeah, that whole scene is like, you you couldve she could have completely avoided this and entire disaster. Like, absolutely. 100%. What's the dad's name?
00:15:01
Speaker
John? i only ask that because his buddy that's standing on a beach when he gets fucking ran over by a boat just goes, John.
00:15:12
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah, we learned that it's more than his buddy. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. Did you notice like at the beginning like they show the little boy swimming after the ah boat ran over all three of them? So, i mean, it shows you which ones survived. This is kind of a spoiler.
00:15:38
Speaker
it It does, but it doesn't lead anywhere. It doesn't because it throws you completely off. Like, Well, you'd have to watch it twice, but the second time watching it, you'd be you'd be like, well, clearly that's the little boy that lived.
00:15:52
Speaker
Yeah. because then the other the Because then the other life jacket comes floating to the surface and it's all torn up. Right.
00:16:03
Speaker
Yeah, it's a yeah it's it's a tragedy.
00:16:08
Speaker
know they killed the survivor that we saw swimming is taken in by a Alan's Aunt Martha.
00:16:18
Speaker
You know, this is a really, this is really a coming of age movie for you. i think. Yeah. Like a porno, like Aunt Martha gets caught in a dryer. You're like, yeah, I find out. I find Aunt Martha caught in a dryer. She's stuck under the coffee table.
00:16:41
Speaker
Like, oh, you can't get out, huh? yeah You know, the this whole the whole scene, the scenes with Aunt Martha, i don't... they She seems like she learned how to act from watching Leave It to Beaver episodes.
00:16:57
Speaker
Dude, I don't... She's like, that simply won't... It's so fucking weird, and ah again, i don't i didn't watch any special features on this or nothing, but this I'm coming at it as just like a viewer of the film. Yeah, neither did I. It's so fucking weird, and like,
00:17:14
Speaker
But it fits like it fits for where the story goes. I think like it's so she's so over the top with it. You know, um is as fuck it's just fucked.
00:17:30
Speaker
she looks The house makes me sick. Huh? The wallpaper. Hmm. The whole house, man. you know what It makes me sick.
00:17:41
Speaker
yeah I don't like it. It's like if I was to be sitting and like the Golden Girl house, I would feel like I would have a permanent hangover. You know what I'm saying? like just The colors are just so nasty.
00:17:55
Speaker
don't like it.
00:17:57
Speaker
but You know what? I bet Aunt Martha is a wildcat. I bet she is. Woo!
00:18:12
Speaker
You can have it. she's She's like, what do they call it? ah so Yeah, she'd be. a Go into that hangover house.
00:18:28
Speaker
The crazy ones, you know, you know what they say about the crazy ones. Oh. And she did, she gives them their physicals to take to the camp and she did them herself.
00:18:41
Speaker
Right. Of course she did. We can't go to camp without our physicals now, can we? Just be careful not to tell anyone how you got them. Oh, no, no, I'm afraid that they wouldn't approve of that at all.
00:18:57
Speaker
but Yeah, because if the camp did the physicals, they'd be like, that there is a big old clitoris you got. oh and spoilers whoops that is one hell of a snicker bar you got there kid your snicker has veins in it
00:19:19
Speaker
they've all and they've already got their camp air wax uniforms on yeah yeah Like when they show up at the camp, ah Angela and Judy are wearing the same goddamn clothes. So did they mail?
00:19:38
Speaker
I don't know. I'm getting stuck in the weeds here, but did they mail the fucking uniforms to him? I mean, would think.
00:19:49
Speaker
They do that a lot in this movie. And I think it's it's just cannon fodder. You know what I'm saying? um But it works. It's weird. It just works. You know, um you don't.
00:20:01
Speaker
You can go into Aunt Martha. You can go into all of it. You know what I'm saying? But like, I don't know. I like the fact that they threw just so much shit at once. Like, you know, like, here you go.
00:20:13
Speaker
This is what's up. You figure it out. But it leaves you leaves you on the hanger through the film if you've never seen it. Because you're like, okay, yeah what the fuck did I just watch? Like, what the fuck? You know, her acting almost throws you off in and of itself.
00:20:31
Speaker
Because after all of that and all they all got their physicals, hey, we're going to camp now. And now it's like, um oh, we're introduced to a girl and a boy. you know like we have no fucking idea. you know like What the fuck just happened? you're Now it's like the beginning of Meatballs.
00:20:54
Speaker
but but well Meatballs 2 with Meatballs. yeah Yeah, Meathead. Yes. Meatballs 2, absolutely. I'm going on record now.
Fashion and Controversial Characters
00:21:06
Speaker
who Meatballs 2 is the best Meatballs movie.
00:21:13
Speaker
I think I want to get a tattoo of Meathead on me. like I think that'd be fucking... gotta have him doing something stupid, though. Get a Meathead tramp stamp.
00:21:24
Speaker
i Maybe. Yeah, maybe.
00:21:29
Speaker
Peeking out my butt crack with red eyes after he smoked the joint. That means. yeah Yeah. But really, it's pink. Go out immediately.
00:21:42
Speaker
It's really. It's got double barrel pink eye. He's been eating. he had COVID.
00:21:53
Speaker
So, yeah you know, COVID ah covid you take away your sense of smell and taste. So me, Ed took that as a opportunity to get his brown eyes. So he, he, he licked a butthole and got both his eyes.
00:22:15
Speaker
That quarantine makes you go crazy, man. That Bobby Peru don't come up for air. But ah you're missing... you so Don't forget, after once they arrive at camp, we get to see Ronnie with the the first banana hammock of the movie.
00:22:34
Speaker
This one's black.
00:22:41
Speaker
yeah You know when the when the buses arrive and Ronnie and Mel are standing out there? Ronnie has those fucking shorts that are his.
00:22:53
Speaker
Oh, yeah. That is inappropriate. There are children around, Ronald. There are children. The motherfucker plays is fucking softball, man you got it You gotta you gotta to respect the game.
00:23:10
Speaker
Hey man, I give those fucking shorts he's got on. that That takes balls and I can see them. If we ever do a live watch and we cover this movie, then and you to... I'm Mel, you're Ronnie.
00:23:27
Speaker
I'm Mel, you're Ronnie. You're absolutely not. You're totally Ronnie, bro.
00:23:38
Speaker
Oh, you know. Absolutely. also also be em I'll be your Aunt Martha. i'll be your I'll be your weird Aunt Martha. No, don't be Aunt Martha. I might put moves And I'll patronize you the entire time.
00:23:52
Speaker
um might set out a dryer for you to get stuck in. Yeah. yeah Please. but You'll be like, oh my god, I can't get out of here. What should I do? i got the vapors.
00:24:08
Speaker
But immediately after that, we get introduced to Kevin's favorite character of the movie, Artie. oh, fuck this motherfucker. Oh, man.
00:24:19
Speaker
You know, dude, if this movie was made now and they had this fucking character, this movie would be so goddamn controversial. Like, it would be like, I mean, everybody, everybody, no, what I'm saying is like, everybody be like, did you what?
00:24:34
Speaker
Oh, it's so messed up. It's so dark. It's so dark. And it is like that. But um It's so fucking weird just because of the culture then, you know, because it was fucked up.
00:24:44
Speaker
He says he says Artie, who is cook, one of the the head cook at the time. Yeah, he's the head. Yeah, he's the head cook. sir As the children are getting off the bus, says, and I quote, look at all that young, fresh chicken where I come from. We call them baldies.
00:25:06
Speaker
And then he says, it makes your mouth water, doesn't it? And yeah all the guys standing around him are like, Artie, you're so you you so funny.
00:25:20
Speaker
Yeah, everybody's so complacent. like And they're like, oh, whatever. like This is just normal. This is just Artie. Look at all that young, fresh chicken. Where I come from, we call them Baldies.
00:25:36
Speaker
Like, you know, what the fuck? Yeah. Yeah. Mel knows he's a fucking creep. You know what I'm saying? Like, oh, yeah. Well, he's just kind of laughing and playing along. He's like, already. You so you so crazy.
00:25:51
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. You know who Mel, you know. You know who Mel is? you know who plays that You know who plays the character? Or Ben.
00:26:04
Speaker
You know who Ben is? Yeah. the yeah guy i have his What other movie was he in? robert well Robert Earl Jones? Yeah, that's James Earl Jones' father.
00:26:17
Speaker
Get the fuck out of here. Yeah, it is. I didn't know that. 100%. That's awesome. That is James Earl Jones' father. So basically, that's Darth Vader's father. ah Luke's grandpa.
00:26:38
Speaker
He was just a cook. He was just an assistant. He was an assistant to the pervert cook and was complacent yeah child molestation. That's why Luke's so fucked up.
00:26:50
Speaker
That's why Anakin was so fucked up. That's just crazy. I don't know why, because it's not like he... It's not like you can be retroactively famous, you know?
00:27:01
Speaker
no yeah I mean... So he's not going to be famous because his son is famous, you know? But it's still crazy to see him in a movie like Sleepaway Camp. No, he's famous because because he played a bit part in a campy underground fucking slasher film, right?
00:27:20
Speaker
just within the 2000s became popular again yeah yeah I mean that's ah it's a good movie he died he told he told his son he was like I will be remembered by this movie someday and he said okay dad that was it you were like I gotta make us up pretty quick
00:27:48
Speaker
So yeah, we get we get our intro to fucking Artie. fucking It's crazy that nobody reacts. like They're all just like, that's funny, Artie.
00:28:00
Speaker
Yeah, they're all complacent with it. like This is just normal Artie. And unfortunately, back in that era, that shit probably really fucking happened. You know what I'm saying? And like everybody's like, whatever, just fucking weird.
00:28:14
Speaker
You know, it's it's fucking crazy. But we're getting the intro. i went to these camps as a kid and, you know, I wouldn't say that, like, there was, like, weird shit with, like, us kids, but there was definitely weird shit with, like, the older people in charge of the counselors who were teenagers and shit. You know what I'm saying?
00:28:39
Speaker
Like, but I don't know. It really... Did a number on my self-esteem because I went to Bible camp when I was a kid. Oh.
00:28:53
Speaker
and i never i never got And I never got molested. yeah fucked me up. I was like, am I fucking ugly? but What is wrong with me? You fucking...
00:29:08
Speaker
That's why you are with that's why though you are the way you are now. Yeah. That's why you beat yourself up in the mirror every day. Yeah. I'm like, you fucking ugly bastard. Couldn't even get molested.
00:29:23
Speaker
You go to Bible camp and can't get... They didn't pick you to play with the balls. You can't get molested at Bible camp, you fucking loser. You fucking a piece of shit. ah You might as well kill now while you're ahead.
00:29:39
Speaker
was i was in Bible camp. I went to Bible camp. i went to I was in Boy Scouts and Cub Scouts. As far as I can remember, I was never molested.
00:29:52
Speaker
Never, and I didn't have it in Scouts. I never had any weird shit. I remember one time um we were camping and I found a fucking, it was like a tuna can. It was the size of a tuna can out in the woods when we were out running around.
00:30:08
Speaker
and like, I was like, oh, man, going to throw this in the fire, see what happens, you know? in my head, I was like, it might explode, you know, whatever. And this fucker exploded, dude, and it shot hot tuna over at least five other fucking scouts, and everybody went running from the fucking fire. And to this day, I'm sure the statute of limitations is up, so, like, my scout troop's not going to come after me anymore.
00:30:35
Speaker
But, uh, yeah, like, no one knows to this day whoever did it. But, yeah, it sent fucking hot tuna all over my fucking troop, dude.
00:30:47
Speaker
Everyone got a hot load in their face. I remember it so fucking vividly. So fucking vividly. And it made a boom, too. It was like, boom! And then, like, just tuna.
00:30:59
Speaker
And everybody was like, ahhh!
00:31:06
Speaker
Kevin's shooting loads everywhere. yeah yeah Yeah. I went into an old abandoned house with some friends when I was a kid and we found this old dirty refrigerator.
00:31:20
Speaker
I don't know how long this house was there, but everything looked like it had been a hundred years. and i doubt it was that. But there was a can of spam in the refrigerator and one of the guys I was with opened it and fucking ate it.
00:31:35
Speaker
And didn't die. He was probably okay, though. ah Right. And that makes me question what the fuck is it in spam because that shit lasts forever.
00:31:47
Speaker
Don't knock it. It's got its own key. Right. Don't knock it. It's got its own Spam is 100% bomb shelter food.
00:32:00
Speaker
So we'll go to them having lunch, I guess. And me tell Meg, who met earlier, but we didn't really mention, you know, she tells Ronnie, she's one of the counselors. She tells Ronnie, who is Ronnie the and banana hammock guy, great who has a red one on at this point.
00:32:23
Speaker
And you can see clearly his dick and balls. It's like, that's not appropriate. These are children. Put on some looser fucking shorts. He's playing a art novel being and hardball, man.
00:32:37
Speaker
i if he is. ah ah Those shorts are not appropriate, but he tells her, you know, because Meg tells him Meg tells him that Angela is not eating or speaking. So he says he's going to take her into the kitchen and find something that she really wants to eat.
00:32:58
Speaker
Yeah, she's Meg's like a bitch like through this whole fucking thing and she's just looking for a reason to fuck with Angela. So yeah, she's like, she ain't eating, she ain't talking.
00:33:12
Speaker
Take her back to that fucking pederast in the back and see if you know you can find some fucking food to feed her. so what? Ronnie just basically takes takes her back and is like, hey, here's Artie.
00:33:27
Speaker
He's not weird at all. And he's like, oh, I got something to show you. yeah Ronnie takes her and feeds her. Yeah, he basically fed her to Artie.
00:33:38
Speaker
And you know what? The great thing about Ronnie... Yeah. yeah ronnie ah Ronnie is a he's a um He's one of my favorite characters. Hey, you want to go back into the fucking kitchen and find you something? Yeah, he's a Stallone.
00:34:02
Speaker
It's a something, yeah. Hey, you want me to... I didn't hear no bell. didn't hear no bell.
00:34:14
Speaker
Yeah, Ronnie...
00:34:17
Speaker
Angela! But he takes her back into the kitchen and feeds her to Artie. He's too daft to fucking see it. Yeah, and then Artie takes her into the fucking refrigerator and almost molests her.
00:34:33
Speaker
And her her angel brother Ricky comes in just in time to save her. And get no one fucking and it he's like, you you!
00:34:44
Speaker
Yeah, well, they come running out of the the fucking freezer, and he comes out behind them buckling, buttoning his pants up, and nobody thinks anything it. Dude, listen, everybody looked right at his shit while he was buckling, and then just went, that's old Artie with his baldies again. They're just like, oh, that's just old Artie, you know. He's just yeah silly.
00:35:08
Speaker
Yeah, like his... The shit that's coming up for him was like great for fulfillment. Like, that's another good thing about this movie. Like, it gets you so fucking mad. And then like.
00:35:22
Speaker
What's coming up, you know? um My question on this scene was, you know, if I haven't made pasta in a long time, but when I used to, I would boil it When I would ah try to get the fucking pot to boil, it would take forever.
00:35:41
Speaker
i couldn't imagine how long that big-ass pot took to boil. I'll tell you, i have experience. I have experience with this because yeah we had to do pasta at one of the many of restaurants I worked at back in the day. But like we had pots just like that.
00:35:59
Speaker
And yeah, it we had to boil lot. Yes, absolutely. You had pots like that? You had boil it to like... Yeah, we got it to where it was like not quite al dente, but like right there to where we could just throw it in like stir it up with like some food and it would cook like immediately.
00:36:22
Speaker
Yeah. I'll be honest with you. i have no fucking idea what al dente means. Anyway, like i've I've fucking done shit in those pots and that shit's for real.
00:36:33
Speaker
And I've had to fucking stand on fucking step ah step ladders in order to like stir shit to where I wasn't. My arm wasn't like touching the pot. You know what I'm saying? So so some asshole could have done this exact same thing to me at any point.
00:36:48
Speaker
How fitting. ah Well, we don't even know if Artie dies from this. Because he he's yeah he's pouring salt into the pot and some man who is clearly not Angela because he's veiny fucking hands comes up and pushes on his butt cheeks.
00:37:10
Speaker
No, actually, if you look at it, man, it's not that veiny. Those are some veiny But yeah, he's like standing over this fucking pot and like you're like, you're like
00:37:22
Speaker
du I love this fucking scene. So he's like, you fucking stop it, you motherfucker. know what I'm saying? Like whatever. and then, yeah, they just fucking pull that fucking ladder and that whole fucking pot just pours on top of him.
00:37:36
Speaker
The effects in this whole scene are incredible for the budget that they had. All of their fucking effects are incredible and fucking credible.
00:37:47
Speaker
Yeah, i think the um Ed French worked on this. He worked on Terminator 2 and Creepshow 2. You know, he did ah right ah did a lot of the effects on here.
00:37:59
Speaker
So, I mean, there's a reason he got those bit better jobs. They're off the chain. The effects in this movie are pretty good. And I mean, who wouldn't want Artie to feel this kind of pain? Dude, I wanted so much more of it.
00:38:14
Speaker
I hope he didn't I hope that like that character didn't die in like he just had to like live with like exposed nerves the rest of his life from all of his skin being burned away.
00:38:27
Speaker
Yeah, absolutely. Oh, yeah. He definitely does. And the acting is really good, too, because, I mean, fucking sells it. Like, he's in fucking pain, dude. And it, like, turns up, if you notice. Like, he's like, oh, fuck.
00:38:40
Speaker
You see the shock in it, and then it just turns up from there. you know what I'm saying? And obviously his fucking skin's all blistered and melted and shit. He got turned up. Incredible.
00:38:51
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah, he he sells it, but he sells it kind of like a pro wrestler. but But it's still great for... He does good, though. He does good, though. I mean, I will say the actor did did the role very well.
00:39:06
Speaker
Yeah, he was great. And I I i heard some ah interviews with Phyllisa Rose where she said, ah you know, who plays Angela? Oh, I said that that guy was a sweetheart in real life, but she really liked him with most of the time. The guys that are like total sweethearts like that, they like they could play a role like that. and And it's just as crooked as fuck, dude.
00:39:31
Speaker
yeah Like John Lithgow. like ah John Lithgow is the Trinity Killer. It was awesome. Roles that you wouldn't typically think that they would be good in.
Themes and Unique Storytelling
00:39:43
Speaker
you know you know um You know what ah Angela's brother's name is in this movie? The brother that died, allegedly? No, I don't. It's Peter.
00:39:55
Speaker
Of course it is. of course is. Spoiler. Spoiler. a
00:40:04
Speaker
ah spoiler if spoiler no
00:40:11
Speaker
spoiler
00:40:19
Speaker
Peter oh my god it's Peter how dare you his name her name whatever i don't fucking know yeah
00:40:31
Speaker
and it is and Ricky Ricky's kind of a fucking troll as he's not though man like honestly he's he's like he's he's fucking protecting her Right, but he gives Mozart a hard fucking time, a hard way to go, man.
00:40:49
Speaker
Because in the next scene, he's the ringleader where he gets Mozart to do the sit-up. Dude, that shit fucking crap. I forgot all about that fucking scene when I watched it the other night.
00:41:06
Speaker
I've watched this movie twice in like two weeks just because I i haven't watched it in forever. And I was like, oh my god, dude. he's He is, but he's like the seasoned camper bringing in the new blood, you know? He's fucking right into his fucking right into a fart. He's a fucking troll, man.
00:41:28
Speaker
It just sounds like you smack a fucking half a pound of chopped ham or something. Yeah. What if that boy got pink eye?
00:41:39
Speaker
Yeah. Did you notice jeans fucking crop top in this scene with the ass in the face? What a beautiful shirt. If I wore that If I wore that outfit and use some spray tan, would that be a cross on the line? If I just tan myself a little bit, I cross top? Speaking of spray tans...
00:42:07
Speaker
We forgot the whole part about after Dickhead gets fucking boiled to death. Yeah, we get Mel. really get to Mel and his kind of character. He's the camp.
00:42:21
Speaker
runs camp. he owns the fucking he runs the camp and he's he's this grizzled old man you know you could tell like he's just cool hard knocks You know, he's fucking he's callous from head to toe.
00:42:41
Speaker
So he comes in and he's like, you know, ah this is all an accident, right? You know, and everybody's, oh oh, yeah, boss. Oh, yeah, you know.
00:42:54
Speaker
It's clearly an accident. He shouldn't have been getting up on the ladder, right, guys? you know oily You can't have this with the camp first opening because, you know, all the kids and everything else.
00:43:11
Speaker
Yeah. myoon reputation ruin My ruined my pristine reputation. shit ah ah he he goes He looks at Ben, who was you know second in line next to Artie. Did you see that movie? Darth Vader's dad.
00:43:27
Speaker
And he's like, he promotes him to it a head cook. And you know what? He also tells them an extra 50 bucks a week doesn't sound so bad, does it? As long as he keeps quiet.
00:43:40
Speaker
but So Darth Vader was living on the dark side from the get go. I think that's what this was happening. His complacency. No, no, no You know, not talk about it.
00:43:53
Speaker
Hold up. Wait a minute. 50 bucks would have been like 100 bucks, bro, a week, which would have been awesome. And an extra 100 a week would have been awesome. This is 1983. 50 bucks would have been awesome.
00:44:07
Speaker
But he said 15 bucks. ah He didn't say 50. Oh, man, I misheard it. I thought he said 50. I was like, man, he's generous for being a stingy fuck.
00:44:21
Speaker
I watch this shit with the subtitles on. He said 15 bucks. That's like a thousand dollars today. Darth Vader's fucking dad was just like 15 bucks sounds good. Five nickels.
00:44:42
Speaker
I'll keep my mouth shut. $15 month. I'll shut the fuck up about this murder. Shut the fuck up.
00:44:53
Speaker
Yeah. i Shut the fuck up Whatever yeah you And then we go right into the softball game To establish like The beef between like the other camp And like Or the other boys of the camp Or whatever because you always have that You know you always have like the two sides The other fellas with the Daisy Dukes on Yeah you you have the other Yeah you have yeah absolutely
00:45:25
Speaker
I mean, honestly, the first time I watched it, well, not the first time I watched this, but when I watched this for us doing this, ah I was thinking maybe it was to pad the run time.
00:45:41
Speaker
how was like, because this movie is like an hour and 20 minutes long, and they had like a 10 minute intro. They did, but it comes back around.
00:45:52
Speaker
that I'm thinking the softball game was just filler. Yeah. I could see that. I mean, it was, but it it established the animosity because it it offered more people to fuck with Angela.
00:46:10
Speaker
they needed They needed cannon fodder. They needed people for her to kill. and clear like she only killed people... Well, in the beginning here, she only killed people that really just fucked with her and just kept pushing her and bullying her.
00:46:24
Speaker
Or them. However, no i don't know. I haven't talked to Angela personally, so um I'm sorry. You know something. You know, something kids nowadays will never get to will never get to understand from this is the trauma of being taunted by a man and Daisy Dukes.
00:46:47
Speaker
Yeah. yeah They're just talking shit. It's like nowadays you would be like, hey, you got Daisy Dukes on. and Shut the fuck up. Yeah, I know.
00:46:59
Speaker
And the fucked up thing is they're sitting there talking shit and they got a pool chain there the entire time. They would just put them down, right? Yeah. Oh, and Gene is playing with him, too. He's out there with his fucking crop top and Gene short is Daisy Dukes on.
00:47:18
Speaker
Yeah, he's got everything he's got. Gene has the he has the crop top and it's not a crop top. It's like extreme crop top. It's all the way.
00:47:30
Speaker
Like if you pulled it up a little bit, you'd see his dimples. But he's got that on. That's how they establish their... You can't have two bulls in the pen.
00:47:42
Speaker
You know... He's got the crop top, the daisy dukes, and the socks pulled up to his calves. Yeah.
00:47:53
Speaker
the daisy duke and the right and the so board up do his calves yeah ah He is so eighty s Oh, dude, it screams it. I mean, but it's the era that was like comfortable.
00:48:11
Speaker
If you really wanted to be a man, then you would cut your shit all the way up to where, you know, it just it just crested your the tops of your nipples like and then air everybody would just fucking bow to you.
00:48:25
Speaker
Those he's got those would should be our those should be our dead nodes crop tops. They will be only be in male sizes though. They'll just crust your nipples. I would love to. So you basically be Porky Pig in your nipples with these shirts.
00:48:46
Speaker
Email us. If you want one of these motherfuckers, I will make you one.
00:48:53
Speaker
Deadnustpodcast at gmail.com
00:48:58
Speaker
that i want guy i want pictures or it never ever never happened. God damn it. That fucking guy His name is Frank Saladino.
00:49:10
Speaker
the guy that plays Gene. I would fucking love to see hear his opinion about that outfit today. Of course his last name is fucking Saladino. Those are the only motherfuckers that wear this shit. Hey!
00:49:24
Speaker
hey a Hey, he's... Why you me? Why you dog? Why you me? I hear no bell.
00:49:39
Speaker
Yeah, he's fucking... That confidence. If you can wear an outfit... I'd love to hear his ah opinion on that outfit nowadays.
00:49:52
Speaker
like oh he's probably still wearing it. I promise you. promise you. He's probably still wearing it. but Let's Zoom meet him. I promise you he'll pop up there and he will be in that fucking thing. It'll be the same one too.
00:50:05
Speaker
I've been wearing this for 30 years. no one hires me. yeah No one hires me anymore. I didn't start making money until this movie got popular again in the 2000s.
00:50:18
Speaker
Open for a new sleepaway camp. I've been working as a fry cook. It happened. ah I i was working in the back of KFC.
00:50:33
Speaker
Colonel's Secret Recipe. They didn't want anybody to see me in my outfit. It's part of me. This ain't a costume. It's a way of life.
00:50:44
Speaker
So they go to a dance. It's a fucking costume. It's a way of life.
00:50:52
Speaker
I like it spooky. i like it softball.
00:51:00
Speaker
So they have like a dance or something. I don't know what it is. It's like a community center kind of place. But you know, when they showed the overview of the the campground, I didn't see no building that big.
00:51:19
Speaker
yeah they had a whole barn or some shit. i might be paying too a whole barn I might be paying too much attention.
Film's Quirky Nature and Humor
00:51:29
Speaker
You have that Kenny and Mike that walk up and it they walk up to Angela she's sitting on the bleachers and it reminds me of that scene in O'Vara, Mistress of the Dark where a the two henchmen like go up to her and he's like... rolling alley Yeah, the bowling alley. That's almost exactly how this played out. Because one of them was going up like, hey, blah, blah, blah, you know.
00:51:59
Speaker
And then they're like, why don't you talk? Blah, blah. You know, like started going off on her. And it was just like, it was like, how about blowjob? What are you, retarded? Yeah, what are you, retarded?
00:52:10
Speaker
And the other one was like, get out of the way. Let me do this. How about a blowjob? He didn't say that, but it was pretty much exactly how it played out. Yeah, and fucking ah her brother comes her brother comes in with the cowboy hat on, and he's a he's the enforcer, because he's always sticking up for her, but I don't know why he's so loyal to her. they don't It's his family, man. he's just He grew up with her. Yeah, but or she never taught she never says a word to him through the whole movie, does she?
00:52:44
Speaker
i think the only perk I think the only person she talks to in this and whole and this entire movie is Paul. She talks to him. He like talks to her and she follows him and she's always looking for him. like he he is her protector. Right.
00:53:00
Speaker
Right. I get it. He does talk to her, but I don't think she talks to him. i don't know. and Like I said, I'm getting stuck in the weeds. Well, basically what we're seeing is like it's it's it's her family members sticking up for That's like what we're seeing. You know what I'm saying?
00:53:16
Speaker
And it's going to it's going to speak for later on. You know, it it's all loading up for like things to unravel here in a little bit because. This is when we really get to see him.
00:53:28
Speaker
We really get to see Ricky come in and be like, yo, you motherfuckers, you know, like he don't give a fuck, dude. He's like ready to throw down. He's like South end fucking, you know, I'm ready to fight you.
00:53:41
Speaker
but Let's go motherfucker. You know, he's like, I already put somebody's face in a fart today. you want me to come beat your ass? Like what you want? What you want? You know? i'll give I've been drinking green tea all morning And you're about to bring the demons out of me Ricky is always Ready to throw down I'll give him that Yeah man I like Ricky man i i fucking I'm so happy About this kid Cause fuck all these motherfuckers And he don't give a fuck Bought to his Lucas forever Holmes
00:54:19
Speaker
And, you know, once Ricky gets hauled away by Gene, fucking Paul makes his move on his sister. absolutely. Rude. You don't fuck your... That's that that breaking the code. You don't fuck your friend's sister. Come on, Paul.
00:54:37
Speaker
ah Yeah, but he his... His... is ah sheep's clothing is pretty, pretty well done because he really like kind of like opens her up and stuff.
00:54:50
Speaker
Yeah. Well, this is the first time you get to hear her speak because she says good. She actually like says something to him, you know? She says, good night, dickhead.
00:55:01
Speaker
Paul.
00:55:04
Speaker
and then if And then if you're upset because every movie we see has a bunch of titties in it, well, in Sleepaway Camp, you get to see a bunch of asses. men Man asses.
00:55:18
Speaker
dude, this movie is chock full of man ass. Like, there's a lot of man ass. And there's a dick in it. Oh, well, yeah.
00:55:28
Speaker
ah Yeah. Yeah.
00:55:34
Speaker
Mom and Dad, I'm not gay. The dude's pulling me. Yeah. It's my dick in his mouth, mine. Yeah. i Not his dick in my mouth. I'm straight. Get my dick out of your mouth, you fag.
00:55:51
Speaker
what are you doing? Oh, man. All right, you made it into the frat.
00:56:03
Speaker
You're good.
00:56:05
Speaker
Don't talk about this. No secrets between sailors. Yeah. up And Kenny takes Leslie out on the canoe and to tips it over.
00:56:22
Speaker
And while he ends up getting drowned, Kenny ends up... Total rape move. Yeah, because of the implication. Mm-hmm.
00:56:35
Speaker
But Kenny ends up under the canoe by himself and somebody appears under there. We don't know who. nope But it, he or she, i don't know what or who drowns that motherfucker.
00:56:52
Speaker
and Absolutely.
00:56:56
Speaker
And I don't know what else they do to him. Gurgle, gurgle, bitch. Yeah.
00:57:04
Speaker
But the ah the effects the next day when they find his body are fucking sweet, man. They're fucking, dude. ah I look forward to every... Yeah, dude. it's It's incredible. And it holds up right now.
00:57:20
Speaker
Yeah Except for the little garter snake Except for the little garter snake You know Those were iconic and everything They always fucking threw snakes And fucking weird shit And they were just like put some snakes on it Because it makes it look slimier really all it is And it does Yeah just put some snakes on it It'll make you feel better
00:57:47
Speaker
Take three snakes and call me in the morning. Yeah, that's it. I ain't too far from reality and in certain times. but oh Oh, Kevin, you can fucking dick hurts. Put some snakes on it.
00:58:01
Speaker
I love this scene, though. What? I said, oh, Kevin, your dick hurts. Put some snakes on it. Put some snakes on it.
00:58:14
Speaker
Well, like, you know, that scene where the body gets discovered, I think was like pretty awesome because he's like fucking pissed because like everybody thrashed everything. We know it was it was Angela that most likely thrashed the beach and threw all the fucking tables into the fucking water and shit.
00:58:36
Speaker
So he's already like, God damn it. I got pick all this shit up, you know, and he fucking kicks over the canoe and that's how we see the body. I like that like it opens up, it throws you off.
00:58:48
Speaker
like Each scene like throws you off before you you get to see like this dead body. you know You know it's coming, but it's like, i don't know. I like how it's set up.
00:58:59
Speaker
yeah I mean, for the fucking budget, I mean, it's not like a low, low, low budget movie, but it's a low budget. but it's, but for the time, I mean, it wasn't, they had this shit wasn't popular then, man, so there they're risking it for a biscuit.
00:59:19
Speaker
The effects were great. I mean, and like I said, I mean, i I'm a pretty fucking, uh, critical person.
00:59:32
Speaker
I tend to judge movies pretty harshly and Sleepaway Camp's a pretty good movie. even It's clearly a being. You didn't judge violent nature very harshly. It's clearly a B movie I'm not even responding to that i will not say that I will not talk about that movie ah anymore Until we ah We need to You know what I'm gonna put that on the list I swear to you I'm adding it for A week or two from now Yeah I'm going to
01:00:10
Speaker
i don't i don't think I don't think we'll be able to fucking do it. it It'll be like a challenge. Yeah. I like challenges.
01:00:24
Speaker
Alright, so he finds the body and then, you know, it cuts to the fucking volleyball game, right? We go to like this whole... yeah Everything's so competitive in this movie.
01:00:41
Speaker
Yeah, this is like the whole ah Paul and Angela you know getting to know each other and all this bullshit. They don't really go too far into it, but you know he ends up kissing Angela And, um, of course, Ricky is pranking Mozart again, you know, shaving cream shit.
01:01:04
Speaker
He's fucking trolling that dude. And I guess that, that kid was getting pranked. That kid was getting fucked with for real on the set. So, uh, really had, there was, Oh yeah, there was some bill that for drama for kid.
01:01:20
Speaker
There was some drama over that, you know, kids ah Kids are fucking cruel, man. Yeah. And Meg being a bitch, you know, she' you know the the whole scene with her trying to get um Angela to swim. That's kind of what sets off.
01:01:40
Speaker
It's kind of what triggers what happens to her. ah wow. Right. I guess, you know, because she tries to throw Angela in the water and Ronnie intervenes with his banana hammock.
01:01:58
Speaker
Don't throw her in the water. Let me distract you with some balls. Yeah. And your boy Mel comes in again after they find ah Who was it that they... The kid that they found under the on the beach? I forget his fucking name. Ricky or something? Not Ricky. It wasn't Ricky.
01:02:23
Speaker
Did you notice when Mel's talking to the police about it? It's Kenny. Kenny was the one that was drowned. Yeah. Did you notice that the police officer?
01:02:35
Speaker
um i forget his fucking name. I don't I don't know if he had a I don't know if his character had a name. The cop. He has a real mustache at this point of the movie.
01:02:49
Speaker
Yeah. Because later on. oh my God. a nice one. He has the fake. He has the fake. It's looking mustache. Oh, yeah, and Ronnie's sporting the black banana hammock this point the movie.
01:03:08
Speaker
So you can't quite see how many balls he has. ah Right. Smuggling plums. ah hu i we're um I'm going to make you guess.
01:03:28
Speaker
I put black on it makes my nuts look smaller. So like they're going out Judy is like starting shit with Angela.
01:03:40
Speaker
And again, about like why she don't shower with anybody and just fucking with them. you know Leading to Susie coming in just slapping the fuck out of fucking Judy. And like what the fuck? Leave her the fuck alone, right?
01:03:57
Speaker
Angela's walking out and gets hit with a fucking water balloon from a bunch of this opposing softball team hanging out in there yeah in their fucking Daisy Dukes on the roof.
01:04:10
Speaker
Yeah, the rivalry. Yeah. And they're like, and like, they're, they, but see, what's funny is prior to Angela getting hit with water balloon, these motherfuckers are just like chilling on top of a roof.
01:04:24
Speaker
And like, they're literally throwing water balloons at each other within like five feet of each other. and they're like all wet. And they're just like, Oh,
01:04:36
Speaker
ah ah So Angela gets hit. Yeah, all like, yeah. yeah The one with the crested there the crested crop is what it's called.
01:04:47
Speaker
was like the dominant, you know? He's like the the alpha the alpha infected. Oh, Billy. Yeah, oh, Billy. Yeah.
01:04:59
Speaker
so They decide like, oh, there's a girl. Yuck. And they throw like a balloon and you know, fucking hits her. And Ricky comes out and he's like, I'll fucking kill you.
01:05:11
Speaker
fucking. This is a shit, dude. yeah dude look
01:05:24
Speaker
He just loses his fucking shit. And then you got Mel coming coming in here. He's like, you boys get down here. And he's like, you guys all lost your canteen for the week. And they're like, oh, man. And then Ricky's and he's like, and you too.
01:05:40
Speaker
from What what does he say from your poopy mouth?
01:05:47
Speaker
The cool, the cool guys who are clearly like in their thirty s but they're supposed to be teenagers. Clearly they're not as cool as Mel because Mel is trying to hook up with a fucking teenager and he's clearly in his fifties.
01:06:05
Speaker
What are you talking about? Mel's like 20 years old. Yeah. Yeah. yeah he must He's like, ah yeah, he he's got he's got game, I guess. I don't know.
01:06:22
Speaker
i guess the old man uniform with the tan khakis pulled up to your belly button and the polo shirt tucked in, you know. You don't just don't know. the mask twill.
01:06:36
Speaker
That twill might be 20 years old. Are you sure the fuck ain't?
01:06:42
Speaker
Billy gets, this is a scene with the ah bees because Billy has to take a wicked dump. Yeah, he goes running in and his whole fucking cabin of boys, he's like, oh, be right there, man. gotta take a wicked dump, brah.
01:07:00
Speaker
And then, i you know, I did notice that when he took his dump, he must fucking go commando because he pulls his shorts down and there ain't no underwear in them. So no, man, they're not where none of that shit ever happened then.
01:07:16
Speaker
And that little fucking air wicking back then.
01:07:21
Speaker
The only air wicking that existed was Rambo. I hope he knows what a courtesy flush is because Jesus Christ, a wicked dump sounds horrible.
01:07:33
Speaker
You know, I wonder after they found his body, if they're like, man, he did say he had to take a wicked dump, man. Well, you forgot.
01:07:44
Speaker
It's just, I don't know how effective this would be. Like she takes, or the killer, i don't know who it is, takes a beehive and like sticks it through the screen. But I don't know why they would start attacking. I don't know why they would attack him.
01:08:05
Speaker
was like a wasp nest is what it was. It was a wasp's nest. And yeah, cut the screen and threw it in there. Mel gets feeling that there's a serial killer and he vows revenge on him.
01:08:19
Speaker
Oh, dude. Mel is losing his fucking marbles. His dementia set in.
01:08:27
Speaker
No, I mean, he is right, though. mean, he ain't wrong, but I mean, his focus is on the wrong person, you know, as we'll see. And it focuses quick. It's really fucking weird because of his poopy mouth.
01:08:42
Speaker
Paul, you know, Paul, he tries, he finally tries to make his move on Angela because he takes her to the beach and tries to bang her. yeah And she starts having visions of like... he's Yeah, all the whole vision thing. But what triggers it is he ends up being just like all the other boys where he's like, what's wrong with you?
01:09:06
Speaker
you know what I'm saying? like So he completely, she went into her like weird fucking eye mode, you know? And then what? It was ah her and her cousin sitting on a bed together.
01:09:21
Speaker
Well, ah she has like a hallucination of two men on a bed. Oh, it's her dad and his lover.
01:09:31
Speaker
that what it's supposed to be? Because her and her brother are watching. all yeah. It's her dad and his lover. It's her dad and the guy that was standing on the beach that said John when he got hit by the boat.
01:09:45
Speaker
Yep. That's where the camera on. Oh, man. i wonder if they dock. Oh, all day. All day. He puts his penis into his boyfriend's foreskin. Yes.
01:09:59
Speaker
Fuck yeah. Rocking with Dokken.
01:10:07
Speaker
Yeah. But she comes to and realizes that Paul's basically trying to fucking stick his wiener in her. So she runs away. As you do cause she's like 13 years old during the, this movie, leave that girl alone. You are, he was like, you know, he was like, you know, he got to her and she was actually opening up and he was like, Oh, he just, he, he showed his fucking ass, you know?
01:10:36
Speaker
And just so you're clear when I say this, the kids are playing some kind of capture the flag Yeah. yeah yeah the Yeah, that's that's yeah nice inside joke.
01:10:52
Speaker
You have to enunciate. Capture the flag. As ah yes i learned the other night when we were on ah guest on another podcast.
01:11:05
Speaker
and i was i was I was talking about flag football and they all got silent and said oh you they said they i don't know don't know what kind of game that is and I said you've never played ah you've never played flag football off your belt it where you had like a ah ribbon hanging off your belt They thought Kevin was talking about.
01:11:36
Speaker
And then they were like, now I get it. And I was like, yeah, the one you guys are thinking about, you don't start playing that till you're in high school. They thought he said fag football in you i thought he said fa football yeah case you didn't get away everybody got silent ah love those guys, man They're so much fun. i hope we do another fucking guest spot.
01:12:05
Speaker
It's so fun.
01:12:09
Speaker
Yeah, it threw me off too because i was like, wait, I'm just talking about like a game we all used to play as a kid. What are they?
01:12:19
Speaker
Maybe i'm playing the wrong game as a kid. i don't know. But the only reason it's worth even mentioning the flag game, it's not flag football. I don't know what it is, but yeah the only reason I mention it is because Ricky has a plan to get the flag, and that's how Angela sees Paul making out with Judy.
01:12:38
Speaker
Drama. Yeah, straight up, Because she don't want nothing to do with him, man. Yeah, she wasn't. she aged He aged out.
01:12:53
Speaker
Like, who cares? like All that means is that Paul probably has herpes now. Yeah, he just threw away his test results. No big deal. Judy's a super spreader.
01:13:06
Speaker
and She's giving herpes everybody. yeah. yeah Everybody's got pink eye. Yeah.
Dark Humor and Narrative
01:13:15
Speaker
and Oh, yeah. You know, if ah if you were a 13-year-old boy and you went to that school, you'd have herpes, too.
01:13:25
Speaker
Judy's fucking everybody. You have foot-mouth fucking disease.
01:13:36
Speaker
Fucking smallpox. Locked-in syndrome. Yeah. who third person syndrome.
01:13:47
Speaker
I got double barrel pink eye. Double barrel. I got blasted. Well, you know, the initiation, the initiation to, as we saw earlier, I mean, I'm sure all those kids, Ricky and his gang, that was like the initiation. Like you had to get pink eye in order to make it.
01:14:10
Speaker
And if you survived it and you made it through, then you're good. Cause they're straight giving each other pink eye the entire time. Yeah. you If you survived it, you had the antibodies to take another blast.
01:14:26
Speaker
So you were in the club.
01:14:31
Speaker
You could take a head on. and then when you're mature enough, you get the clap. So it's all good. And Judy's spreading that shit around like crazy. So we get Megan Judy again. assholes.
01:14:46
Speaker
And they're fucking with Angela again about like not swimming. And of course, you know, Angela doesn't want anything to do with anybody because fuck all of you motherfuckers. So.
01:14:59
Speaker
They escalate it to the point where they're like, oh, no, we're going to come. Why are you swimming? They pick her up, start taking her down and throw her in the fucking water.
01:15:11
Speaker
Fucking bitches.
01:15:14
Speaker
and She's going to get her dick wet. I'm out. Whoops. The water is cold. I mean, ah ah that's cold on your balls.
01:15:25
Speaker
But Ricky, who always saves her, is being held by Mel because Mel thinks Ricky's the killer. He's like, you're not. Yeah, he's like, you're not going to work.
01:15:36
Speaker
Yeah. Uh, but Ricky obviously eventually gets loose and comforts Angela. Cause he's, a he's the best fucking cousin you could ever wish for.
01:15:48
Speaker
it's He's loyal, man. yeah It's her brother, man. Very weird, Mother. He's fucking loyal, though. well no you know Honestly, he to talk about Ricky, Ricky's actually turned out to be a pretty average kid considering how fucking goddamn weird his mother is.
01:16:08
Speaker
You know what I'm saying? like He's got a pretty level head on his shoulders for as fucked as his mom is. I mean, straight up. Well, you know what the most fucked up thing in this movie is? Is Meg is legitimately excited about asking Mel out about their date that night.
01:16:30
Speaker
Oh, dude. You see Mel, dude. He fucking. He's like, oh, guy, I get to the general store at the campground and buy my bottle of brew. It's fucking Stetson.
01:16:42
Speaker
My mom bought this for me 20 years ago. I finally get to use it. I do not get this. They never address the age issue. They they don't.
01:16:54
Speaker
That's just and we well see that in part two as well. And I don't want to get into it because eventually I do want to cover part two um because there's some actors in there and the characters they play crack me the fuck up.
01:17:09
Speaker
And I'm not going to go into it. But anyway, Yeah, they don't they don't fucking talk about the age in this. Like, it's just... no It's just what it is. Mel's clearly a grizzled 50. You know what I'm saying? Mel looks like he's about Okay, I'll give you old.
01:17:36
Speaker
fifty eight years old and then we got mel who is herba rather make ah Who's what? 17. But he's just like, she's been flirting with him, obviously, because that's the type of person she is.
01:17:53
Speaker
And he's just like, oh, shit. You know, who knows what her plans were? Maybe she's into that. I don't know. But it's so fucking weird. It's so weird.
01:18:06
Speaker
83. was he was like 60, 61, something like that. sure When this movie was made. And she finds him irresistible. All I can think is Mel's packing.
01:18:20
Speaker
Those fucking twirl pants and that fucking shirt. He had his first two buttons undone. And I think that's what sold it. this was This is the same Meg that just threw fucking Angela in the water yeah against her will.
01:18:36
Speaker
fucking bitch. And I'm not saying it's related, but Meg fucking gets her ass killed that night. yeah You know what? don't know we a fucking Honestly, all these motherfuckers had it coming.
01:18:49
Speaker
If this would have been a movie about Angela having like a fucked up like upbringing and being forced to you know do whatever and then she just went to this camp and everybody loved her, this would have had a complete different outcome.
01:19:04
Speaker
You know, but unfortunately, all these people decided to keep fucking with her. So she gets fucking stabbed through the goddamn shower wall, bro. Like right in the of her fucking shower.
01:19:17
Speaker
Brutal. pretty She gets gutted. I mean, it doesn't show much of it. love it. Yeah. She fucking stabs her and then just slices up through her. Judy.
01:19:28
Speaker
Judy's death is right after this. ah she gets the employee you know it's implied i don't know i can't verify but we think she gets a curling iron right up the puss yeah we we see the the dive bomber scene of her getting knocked the fuck down yeah and then like the
01:19:57
Speaker
And then we hear a sizzle. So we pretty much know whether she died or not. She's ruined for life. ah Yeah. essentially and And cartoonishly, you see her hands like the shadows of her hands like the jazz hands.
01:20:12
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. because that yeah to say ta but such shadow but yeah hot such such Mel eventually catches up to Ricky and beats the shit out of him because he thinks that he's been the he's been the killer the whole time.
01:20:29
Speaker
Yeah. and Oh, dude, that whole fucking scene, he went complete like chimpanzee on him. The first time I saw this movie, I thought he beat Ricky to death.
01:20:41
Speaker
Well, yeah, because that's what they say. There's only when he finally confronts Ricky after all that. Like, yeah. He pummeled the shit out of him, but there's that short scene later on where they go, he's still alive, you know, but let's get him in. Let's get him in, you know, and take him away. But we don't see anything from Ricky after that.
01:21:08
Speaker
So all we know is Ricky made it, you know, because he's a hero in a lot of ways. so Well, and this whole, you know, because ah Paul wants to get back with Angela, and this whole movie is building up to the one scene at the waterfront with Paul and Angela.
01:21:34
Speaker
ah ricky Ricky lives, but I mean, you really don't... That's really kind of the last time you see him movie. You don't know what happened. Yeah, they you find that he's alive because Angela fucking blasts Mel through the fucking eye with an arrow.
01:21:52
Speaker
And had she not done that, then Ricky would have died. You know, fine timing by Angela for a guy that's like helped her out her entire fucking time there, you know, like.
01:22:05
Speaker
Makes it they're just in time to blast somebody in the face with a fucking bow and arrow right when he's like on the peak of death. But he survives. We don't know what happened to Ricky. he went on the right He went on to write novels about um his mother and like you know how he never really ever wanted his sister. he was fine with having a boy cousin, but his mother insisted that she always wanted a girl. you know There's a whole book on it.
01:22:37
Speaker
We can get it on Amazon. It's about five chapters. Well, let's see how this plays out because I'll let you do the reveal, but um Susie, it's Susie and Ronnie.
01:22:54
Speaker
They go to the waterfront to find Angela because Angela tells Paul to meet her there, right? Yep. And this my this this is the the scene that made this movie famous and still people talk about.
01:23:12
Speaker
Yeah, it's it's the scene, the defining moment of this entire movie. And if you haven't watched this movie yet and you really want to fucking know, then stop listening. You shouldn't have even listened to this goddamn episode anyway. But if if like you've made it this far and you still haven't seen this movie, don't Just pause this part and like watch the fucking movie and then turn us on afterwards, I guess.
01:23:40
Speaker
Or fuck it. You know, YOLO. Just spoiler. Yeah. But, uh, but anyway, yeah, they pull up Ronnie, Ronnie and Susie show up at the waterfront and um I'll let, uh, I'll let Kevin, uh, explain the final twist of the movie.
01:24:01
Speaker
Go ahead.
01:24:05
Speaker
a twist Is it a twist or is it a tuck?
01:24:10
Speaker
It's definitely not a tuck. Or is it erect? Or is it sat and shriveled and hanging to the left?
01:24:21
Speaker
It looks like a swamp hag is ums foraging mushrooms. don't know.
01:24:33
Speaker
All right, so they hidden pull up and they're on the beach, you know, and and Angela's just humming this song, stroking the hair, stroking Paul's head, you know.
01:24:48
Speaker
Like, he's ah this she's comforting him. He's laying his head on her lap. Yeah, yeah, she's comforting him. cla So we come in, yeah, and we come in and they're like, Angela, you know, uh,
01:25:10
Speaker
and Angela fucking pops up the camera, the camera fucking pans. And we see that this whole time, Angela has been,
01:25:22
Speaker
And Andrew yeah completely. Yeah. He's been a Peter. Angela is in fact, Peter.
01:25:34
Speaker
yeah With a Peter. theater Yeah, it is. And it's so fucking weird. She fucking or they rear up and eyes to the side, both eyes. And they're just like pissing.
01:25:52
Speaker
And it's like the weirdest thing. It's like.
01:25:59
Speaker
it That fucking noise he's making freaked the fuck out of me was kid. Yeah, it was super weird. And the way she's looking off to the side, you know, I've seen Phyllisa Rose take a lot of pictures with fans and she does that face.
01:26:18
Speaker
That's what she does. Yeah. yeah But the funniest thing, I'll say this, I think this is the funniest part of the whole movie. They did a sleepaway camp at State Theater, and she was there. This was like four five years ago.
01:26:37
Speaker
I think the funniest thing of this whole movie is that during this finale, it's terrifying. She's ah like got Paul's head like she cut Paul's head off.
01:26:52
Speaker
So she's clean. She's covered in blood. She's covered in blood, holding a knife. And Ronnie, the the funniest thing in the whole fucking movie is this scene is so fucked up. And Ronnie just goes,
01:27:07
Speaker
Oh my god She's a boy
01:27:12
Speaker
Like That's the only thing you're focusing on dude Like That's literally the only thing you're focusing on She's covered in blood and hissing like some demon.
01:27:24
Speaker
where There's all has so much happening at this moment. like There's literally so much fucking happening at this moment. And Ronnie seizes the dick. He goes, he's like this. he Ronnie goes, ain't it. Ronnie's like, yo he dead yeah yeah yo, is that dick?
01:27:49
Speaker
Fucking dick all the time You had dick You mean I've been looking at dude ass That's bigger than ah You wanna borrow Some of my shorts Yo you got a big one a hanging Yo that's bigger than mine if You see mine I'm like 80% balls Get yourself a pair of Daisy Dukes To put that back in
01:28:28
Speaker
She's a
01:28:34
Speaker
Yeah, that's fucking the end of this movie is so crazy. It's ah I assume I imagine that it's controversial nowadays, but I don't give fuck what people think.
01:28:48
Speaker
It's not. It's funny to me. If this movie was made right now, it would have been a little more controversial, but as it stands now, it's not. It's a gem. It's a gem of horror. I mean, and as it should be. Mm-hmm.
01:29:01
Speaker
just It is a phenomenal movie. It's how low budget movies should be made. The acting is great in it, though. I mean, it's it's it's the time, man. I mean, it it's it's sealed in time.
01:29:17
Speaker
I mean, it's it's a good ass fucking movie. If you haven't watched this motherfucker, then you need to get out there and watch it. Set up a night for it. Yeah, it's on Tubi. Go camping and watch it. Yeah, go camping and watch it. Make it even better.
01:29:31
Speaker
It's one of those kind
Conclusion and Appreciation
01:29:32
Speaker
of movies. It's on Tubi, if you if you know somebody who hasn't seen it, ah don't tell them about the ending. Just watch it. yeah and Don't listen to this episode. Or don't tell them.
01:29:46
Speaker
And when the ending happens, just don't even watch it. Look at their faces. and but and Because it'll be priceless. It's a boy.
01:29:59
Speaker
yeah but I got I did it all for you, baby. i don't know. i think it's a great movie. It is. It's awesome.
01:30:10
Speaker
Email us some fun stuff. Yeah. email Email Kevin pictures of yourself in Daisy Dukes. Yeah.
01:30:21
Speaker
Send us your crop top recommendations. that That's Sleepaway Camp. Fucking great movie. next week Next time, we're going to do a movie that has to do with corn. I'm not going to give it away.
01:30:40
Speaker
But look forward to that, please. We appreciate everybody that listens. We're doing an introspective on on ah Jonathan Davis. And the children of the corn.
01:30:54
Speaker
I don't know. i didn't say all that.
Humorous Farewell
01:30:58
Speaker
Thanks a lot, everybody that listens. Thanks guys for listening to yet another episode. We made it.
01:31:06
Speaker
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01:31:20
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01:31:34
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