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Smoke and Become Suppressive People with Us
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What is a suppressive person? An enemy of the Church of Scientology. And Dani and Kels are proud new members of this group! Join them and shit talk the abusive, money hungry, manipulative "religion" of Scientology.
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Transcript
Introduction and Podcast Vibe
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Welcome to Awakened Bigs, an educational, high vibrational, spiritual, mystical podcast from two girls, one joint and a journey to awaken what's inside all of us. In the words of the wise Wiz Khalifa, let's roll something and get the day started.
Technical Issues and Preparations
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All right, motherfuckers, today we are doing a smoke with us and shit talk Scientology. So we actually already recorded this episode and we have some technical difficulties.
Purpose: Critiquing Scientology with Humor
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So this is part two.
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And honestly, I'm more prepared. Obviously, I'm more prepared. We basically already did this. But I'm more excited for this, more excited for this episode, because now I know all the stuff that you shared from the last one. And it's growing my mind even more. So you guys, if you don't know what Scientology is, you need to go watch Leah Remini's Netflix documentary series, docuseries, whatever it's called, or do any research that you want. Because today, we're not necessarily going to teach you about it. We're going to talk hella shit on it.
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So you're going to learn a lot in the process of us shit-talking it, but we're not here to specifically educate you.
L. Ron Hubbard's Controversial History
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We are here for entertainment, commentary, and shit-talking purposes only, okay? We are here to earn our SP label. And to the Church of Scientology, SP is a suppressive person or an enemy of the church.
00:01:24
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And you can become this by just making a public negative statement about Scientology, which this entire, entire episode is dedicated to fucking Scientology.
00:01:35
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Yeah, so let's start off with the fucking person who started Scientology. So L. Ron Hubbard, if you don't know who this is, this is a science fiction novelist and author. He is the most published author like ever, right? He has over a thousand books that he's published. And he was a science fiction writer for a science fiction magazine for a very long time.
00:02:01
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basically this guy, right? He's a sci-fi writer, but not only that, he's also a notorious liar. So this is these motherfuckers leader, okay? Let me give you some background on Oldboy. He was in the, so after Pearl Harbor, right? I'm assuming that this is the Navy because I don't really know what else like this field would be, but
00:02:27
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basically he said that he was the command of a sub chaser and he says that he sunk two Japanese submarines but that's a whole fucking lie what actually happened was off the coast of Oregon he opened fire on a log in the ocean and he accidentally bombed an entire Mexican island so then they had to relieve him of his command which means fire him
00:02:50
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let him go and he's out here like yeah i'm like a war hero and like i you know i sunk to japanese submarines and it's like you actually bombed a mexican island on accident like like you're an idiot and a log a log literally
00:03:08
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Um, so that's, that's a little bit of background on this motherfucker. I'm like, how dumb can we be in it? It's like a simple Google search will tell you that he is a liar. So like, and his, his wife came forward. I might be ex-wife now, um, came forward and said like, no, like he fully lied. And like, when she first met him, she fell in love with him because she thought he was this like military tough guy who did like his service for his country. Had no idea that he was a liar who I like bombed people by mistake.
00:03:37
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They definitely ended up getting divorced before he died because during their separation, I don't know exactly what was happening, but he kidnapped his daughter and then he called that woman, his wife, and told her that he killed her, killed their daughter, which
Oppressive Practices in Scientology
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was a lie. He did kidnap her, but he didn't kill her. He just wanted to psychologically torture, which is funny because this is a man who doesn't believe in mental illness or psychology because they defrauded him. He was like, oh, but that's because that's not real.
00:04:07
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Um, which is not how that works. That's how crazy works. Right. He's literally so paranoid. Like all of Scientology, it's basically got like two halves. One half is like this whole Dianetics, which is the name of the book that kind of started the whole thing. And like Dianetics are like ways to, uh, to work and become a better person. It's basically like self-help and it's not all of that. Is it necessarily bullshit? But it is. Um,
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But like, yeah, he like tried so hard to get these people to like publish him and make him seem real. And then like, yeah, they just completely, completely threw that out because it doesn't even make sense. But then the other half of it is like, I don't know.
00:04:53
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There's the self-help portion and then there's the evil. I don't even know how else to put it. There's the people who are there because they truly want to find help and stuff but then he just made it into such a twisted, disgusting, dark thing.
00:05:11
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Yes, totally. One, it's all about money, too. He told his wife in the beginning, oh, I need to make a religion. That's where the money is. That's how you get all the money because then you don't have to worry about taxes. Like, it's giving Donald Trump when he was like, oh, yeah, I'm just going to run for president and brainwash all these people because they're stupid and like grab them by the pussy. And then he was like, I just didn't say that. You're just interpreting it wrong. And it's like,
00:05:36
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No, motherfucker. How that works. That is literally Elrond Hubbard. And he is quoted saying the only way to get people to do what you say and to listen to you is to lie to them. That's another one of his direct teachings. It's like this is your leader. But that's not like weird for the Church of Scientology guys. So the Church of Scientology is notorious for lying to the public. Um,
00:05:58
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And for just like being shady in general, they lie about like what they spend their money on and how much money they're spending on things. But because they don't have to pay taxes and worry about that, they have all this money. And just because they simply can, they will torture people, harass them, harass their families, harass their work, harass anyone that's close to them and like really ruin these people's lives. And it's like truly just because they can. It's fucking insane.
00:06:23
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There was an old term that they used when like L. Ron Hubbard started this whole thing called fair game. And that is like, so it's an extremely like written religion, which I hate calling it religion. It's an extremely written cult. There's a lot of laws and rules and they have like, you know, like their own 10 commandments and stuff like that. And like in their doctrine is that like if someone
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goes against the beliefs or like questions anything or basically steps out of line in any way they are then fair game and considered an SP as a present person and they're an enemy of the church and in their doctrine it says that like if someone is this if they are an SP then you are to like find what they care about and take it from them like no matter what that takes like they have separated families they have take like starved people they lock people in rooms like
Punishments within the Church
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oh my god and as punishment for there was this couple that was interviewed you can find the interview on youtube um it's like a very long uh documentary that i watched on youtube and this couple was being interviewed and they had they were like teenagers but they were adults still like they were 18 or 19
00:07:28
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Um, and they had sex out of wedlock and like they were born into Scientology. So I guess that's like one of the things is you're not supposed to do that. I don't know, but like, I don't, I, and again, I'm not saying that that's like what all Scientologists say, but basically like, yeah, you're almost supposed to be with people within the church and stuff like that.
00:07:48
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But I think they were both in the church, but regardless, they fucked and they weren't supposed to. And this bitch got thrown in a basement for weeks with minimal food and water, almost fucking died. And that's not to mention all the people that do die and go missing like, okay, so David Miscavige is the leader of- Now. Yeah. After Elrond Heather passed away, David Miscavige took over.
00:08:13
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Yes, exactly. Which he self-planted to. He didn't let anyone, he told everyone that he was chosen or something, but there was no proof of this. He basically just stepped in and took this role. Oh, so on brand for him. Right. Well, his wife went fucking missing Shelly, so his wife was a prominent figure in the Church of Scientology because when you're married to the leader, everyone knows who the fuck you are. You also have your own assistants. You also have your own people working for you and your own fucking friends and people who look up to you.
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So she disappeared in 2006 because she started to like kind of disagree with some of the practices and just honestly start questioning them, especially openly. And she went missing and to this day has not been fucking seen. But the issue is not only that she's fucking gone. It's that like this Church of Scientology does such an amazing job or I mean, it's terrible, but they're so good at doing it, at keeping these people missing and no one like ever finds them. It never becomes an issue.
00:09:09
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People who have raised flags about it and been like, what the fuck happened to her? Sometimes they go missing or something bad happens to them or they're then threatened. It is insane. Isn't that what happened to Leah Remney? She approached him at a wedding or something and asked about his wife and he
Celebrities and Financial Motives
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freaked out? Yeah. I don't remember the whole thing. I watched that documentary so long ago. Something like that. That was what had started when she started asking questions about the Shelly situation.
00:09:37
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Yeah, because he got mad that she was like, inquiring about it, which is like, that was her homie. Right? That's what she literally said. Like, one of the interviews I watched was like, she was like, that was my friend. And I'm like, you're at a wedding without her? Like, why wouldn't you be here? Like, normal questions. Plus, one of his weird things. So David Miscavige is like, he's such a creepy little fuck. He loves to just like,
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humiliate people and torture them for no fucking reason. So like he would get people name tags and it would say something like fucking loser like on it like crazy shit like that like he loved to just like really humiliate his members all the time and sometimes he would put you in this thing called the hole where you had to confess to like imaginary or like supposed crimes that really didn't happen.
00:10:19
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But he would throw you in there all the time. It's giving Teal Swan. It's giving Teal Swan. The cult behavior was insane because they really do isolate you from your family and make everyone turn against you, even your family. And it's crazy because Leah Remini left, right? So she left psychology. Her best friend is J.Lo, and all throughout their friendship,
00:10:39
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You know, the church was like, get JLo in, get JLo in. And Lea was like, no, she's not going. I'm not going to do that. We're not doing that. Well, JLo's fucking dad is a Scientologist, but he's still allowed to contact and be in like touch with JLo and her family, even though she's best friends with Leah Remini who left the church. But since we're on this subject and on this team, do I have some motherfucking tea about it after this ad that we're about to take?
00:11:11
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Okay, so I am not trying to like, you know, talk about somebody's wife or talk about you know, like, anybody. This has nothing to do with like, the way I feel about these people as an actor or as like a woman and stuff like that. But
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Will Smith and Jada Pinkett Smith are kind of fishy with their affiliation to the Church of Scientology. And obviously, I don't know these people and I would love to clarify, but I do not know you. This is all hearsay. This is all alleged. Everything I and that anyone else can find out for legal purposes is alleged.
00:11:48
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Right, okay, I want to get that out there. Yeah, I'm gonna say it so So they first of all We're constantly hanging out at the Church of Scientology. They have gone to many events there They've gone to the church that they spoke with people who are higher up They've been very involved and integrated within the church like they have made themselves They say that they're not part of it like they are very clear about saying that they are not and never have been members and
00:12:12
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of the Church of Scientology. That does not excuse them. Why are you attending all their events? Right. And they they have studied Dianetics and like they both acknowledge there are some really helpful teachings in there that they think are super powerful and helpful but that they do not and have never considered themselves Scientologists. So I do want to make that clear.
00:12:30
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that they do not consider themselves. I'm just saying, they also started a school, an elementary school for young children that was run by Scientologists and had a lot of the teachings. Ooh, yikes. And a lot of people got really upset and raised flags and a lot of people took their kids out and reported it and got really upset. I don't know where that school stands as of now.
00:12:57
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but when I heard that I was like you guys like if you're trying to say that you're not part of this cult I would I wouldn't have gone in that direction I would stop involving myself with the cult. I feel like it's I feel like most people that we hear about that are like involved in this are the people that have like so much money and that's because it's insanely expensive to be a part of Scientology to be like
The Costly Path of Scientology
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a normal parishioner, like just a run-of-the-mill person, it still costs about a quarter million dollars. And that's like a kind of low ball, I'm quite sure. Like there's 12 books that you have to buy. So you start off and you pay $35 for like the introduction. The whole thing is set up kind of like a college. Like there's courses and like things you have to learn and you work your way through and the goal is to find like, what do they call it? Being clear or clarity? Yeah, yeah. Clear. Going clear. Going clear, which is like being like emotionally
00:13:50
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emotionally neutral, being Zen basically is like, you know, to use a word that we use more frequently, like it's just being completely. I feel like it's more just dissociating. Dissociating? Okay. I guess that's what they're actually doing. What they're actually doing. What he's explaining is like the what we all want.
00:14:08
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It's not what's happening. But like, those are things that we talk about all the time that like, are within you and like, I'm sorry, but you don't need books like in like, I mean, you can read books, but you don't need these courses and these things that are costing thousands of dollars. So the 12 books you start with is a $4,000 investment.
00:14:25
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and then at any point during their time and they do it frequently they will come up with things that like oh well like this piece of paper just uh came together from like it was lost from L Ron Hubbard and now it's all different and we actually have to buy a whole new set of books so we'll just keep republishing and changing little things and stuff and you have to keep buying like to stay in the church you have to be present and up to date on all of like their merch essentially which is crazy and that you have to be rich
00:14:50
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Right? Like it even goes first. I can't remember what the beginning stages are, but then eventually you reach like this thing called operating Keaton. And that's even like, that's like, so a thetan is like essentially their word for spirit. Like it's not your physical body. It's not like your emotion, your ego body. It's like what we are, like your purpose person. Sure.
00:15:12
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And so like the operating seat ends is like the next level. And even that has like tons of different stages. They call it like crossing the bridge or something to get to like the highest level. They claim that L. Ron Hubbard never died. He just like ascended to the next level where he no longer needed a physical body. Which again, not a crazy thought. Like that I'm not calling and saying. But that's where the it is. They mix in stuff that sounds legit.
00:15:38
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And so, like, that's what they claim. So, like, to get to each of these levels, you have to, like, take these courses and pass these tests. And then, again, at any point of that, which can take years, they can then say, actually, it's all changed, and I get to start at the beginning. Or they can have, like, just someone be like, actually, I didn't like the way you did that. There's no, like, real rules. Anyone can just make you start over and pay again. There's no, like, repaying or, like, there's no reimbursement. There's nothing like that. They just drain your money.
00:16:05
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they tell you to like take loans sell your stuff like they will they financially destroy people yes it's like crippling they'll even tell people to take out loans to pay for other help pay for other people because like you're all part of the same mission and one thing that i thought was like hella fucking interesting is that everyone who's an organization member is also a potential staff member so there is something written in the field auditors page two where it says field auditors because
00:16:32
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come staff. It was written May 9, 1965 by Elrond Hubbard. And the part that I'm quoting says, promptly pays field staff members 10% of amount received for processing services and 15% of amount received for training. And then so basically what they're saying is if you bring if you are a member, and you refer someone or you bring someone with you to the church, and then they end up being a member,
00:16:56
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you every single fee that they pay from there on out you get a percentage of so and that's what it is for every member so like anyone who is brought in like whoever brought you in is getting a percentage of that it's all financial fucking base and that's so weird they're just like money hungry and everyone worships all around hubbard and i'm sorry but one thing about a cult like we said last time is when you think like oh it's this one this one person who can do no wrong and all that
00:17:22
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So, something super fucking crazy that Elrond Hubbard did, right, is he infiltrated the Nation of Islam. So, if you don't know about that situation, the Nation of Islam, they really pride themselves on, and I'm not, okay, not to speak for them, because I am not a member, so I can't, like, I've never, like, attended a meeting, but from the research that I've done, they really do pride themselves on being able to create jobs and a life for themselves that is completely independent of the white man.
00:17:49
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So they would be able to sustain without never needing to rely on the white man ever. But then Elrond Hubbard came in because basically some higher ups in Scientology, well, one guy, there was one guy in Scientology and he was like, yo, why are there no black people in Scientology? Why are we not in any black neighborhoods? Why are there no black people in these services and all of that?
00:18:14
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And Albert Hubbard was like, you're right. He calls Leah Remini. And he's like, you're going to bridge the gap between Scientology and the Nation of Islam so that we can start bringing in more people in the Black community. And she knew nothing about that. She knew nothing about the Nation of Islam. She knew nothing about how they were going to bridge the gap. But she was like, hey, I would love to just be helpful to bringing peace between various groups.
00:18:42
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And basically the way that he framed it was obviously with money, like to entice them with money. Like there's some type of financial gain going on, but he's tricking them. So he's secretly brainwashing it and then indicting them into his cult. So basically what they do is he's introduced Dianetics into the Nation of Islam. Now Nation of Islam has actually a collaboration and a connection with Scientology where you can move up in Scientology while still existing in the
Scientology and Nation of Islam
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Nation of Islam.
00:19:09
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And what they've done at this point is when you get to a certain level in Scientology, in collaboration with Nation of Islam, there's a section where it just totally indoctrinates you. Like it's the full testing. You start going, you can start going clear. You fully become like, you can like move all the way up to be in, but to basically be a Scientologist. But also that's when Elrond Hubbard officially says that there's no Christ in Scientology and that
00:19:37
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You're not supposed to believe anything except Scientology and like what Elrond Hubbard teaches, which directly goes against what they believe. Right. And what Nation of Islam believes. So that's just so interesting, too, how this man has been able to like, this is like very typical of coal leaders, how they're able to get
00:19:55
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a mass group of people under their influence. Yeah. And he is secretly brainwashing them to be a Scientologist. They're already learning Dianetics. They're already learning all of his, like, from his textbooks and stuff. His textbooks. His science fiction books. Exactly. It's so funny. Guys, we haven't even gotten into, like, I couldn't even explain the whole thing, but essentially what Scientologists believe is, like, their enemy in this world is, um,
00:20:24
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75 million year old, old volcanic outer space ghosts from another planet, like that's genuinely where they feel their pain lies and like where they what they need to fight that's what they're fighting against and they're also like
00:20:40
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It's instilling so much paranoia into its followers because it's all about everyone who isn't, nothing is your fault, or actually I guess it's more everything's your fault, but it's because other people are bad. It's not, I don't know, it's such a separating and divisive thing from the real world and then these people.
Leadership Controversies
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It's hard to meet. Stone or cough, but it is fucking insane how
00:21:10
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like the type of control that, you know what bitch, you take the lead, you take the lead. Like David miscarriage, yeah. And like what's funny, I just call him David miscarriage, David miscarriage. That's a hilarious name for him. Hey, he's a pretty funny guy. Honestly, he is. He's a little like Napoleon syndrome bitch. He's the one that's, that's the other thing that's funny as fuck about him is he's a whiny little brat. So like,
00:21:37
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David Miscavige, aside from probably killing his wife, what I heard was that she hired someone he didn't like, and that's something as minuscule as that. So that's his reaction to that. When he wanted to buy a part of their big centers in Clearwater, Florida,
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and when he wanted to buy like a piece of land that was part of the aquarium there and the city the city said no he threw like a big hissy fit and then tried to like get his own politicians elected and stuff um and that blew up in his face because then uh either it proved that he instead of having 6 000
00:22:12
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Scientologists in the city of Clearwater, Florida. He either only has 2000, because that's how many votes the Scientologists got, or they voted against their own guy, which proves that they're probably just terrified. But we spoke about how becoming clear is the whole purpose, or the whole goal is to find this piece and be completely dissociated or neutral. The outer world does not affect you.
00:22:37
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David Miscavige and Miscavige, I just said it again. We'll keep it going, I like it. Right? If only. David Miscavige and Elrond Hubbard were both like insanely abusive, full of rage with Snap on a dime. Like if you said the wrong thing, they would like either physically, like emotionally, mentally abuse like in front of other people if they've been seen. Like there's so much evidence
00:23:03
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of their rage and abuse that they actually, in 2009, the FBI started investigating them for human trafficking and abuse. But because they are a religious organization, it's very hard to get access to any of their materials and stuff because they have so much protection by the First Amendment because they can do anything. We have a freedom to like your religion. And since the IRS declared them a religion, which they never should have done, but the IRS is corrupt,
00:23:33
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Uh, so because they did that, they have this like exemptness. So that's why like they're untouchable. David Miscavige is very hard to go after because anything that he says or does, like his wife being missing, I'm not saying this is what he says, but he can easily say something like, well, she's on retreat or something.
Hollywood Influence and Criticism
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Or my wife doesn't speak, like because of our religious beliefs, my wife, there's nothing that they can do to make him feel that she's okay.
00:23:52
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Right. That's the crazy part. They have so much power. They run so much shit too. You guys have no idea. Most of Hollywood is run by Scientology. Most actors are Scientologists. And when I say most, I mean a lot. But when I say most corporations, companies, businesses, like production studios, like Hollywood is entirely run by Scientology. I promise you.
00:24:19
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Look into it. It's going to ruin you. Obviously, we all know about Tom Cruise and his Scientologist upbringings or I guess roots. I don't think he was brought up that way. But however he came about this, there's a hilarious interview.
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of Seth Rogen talking about how one time Tom Cruise like convinced him and Judd Apatow to like come to his house or his I don't know one of his houses and like have a meeting about comedy so they went and like for hours they talked about comedy kind of but he's Tom Cruise he's a weird guy so like he was really strange and then at one point like it just got really like quiet and awkward and Tom was like
00:24:57
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I know that you guys hear a lot of weird stuff about me and this whole Scientology thing, but if you just give me 20 minutes of your time, I'll convince you that it's real. And like Seth Rogen was like, I literally had to look at Judd Apatow and be like, please say something because I know I can fall for this right now. I'm my shit. I'm susceptible. That's awesome. They didn't.
00:25:16
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But yeah, I can't imagine, okay, first of all, Tom Cruise is just a crazy human to me. I think he's the most chaotic energy. From the beginning of my life, I've just not understood him. But the fact that he is a Scientologist and such an interesting Scientologist, because we hear from Leah Remney so much about it, and not really from him about it. I mean, he'll kind of defend it, but it's still not super open because you can't, you can't talk
Closing Thoughts and Patreon Invite
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about it.
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But it's so funny how there's the different sides and the celebrities of how it's being handled. At least she's coming forward and saying stuff. I hope more people do if there's that many of them there. That's what I'm saying. And the problem is I could see why they wouldn't because Scientology controls everything in Hollywood. And once you openly speak out against it, you become an SP. We are SPs right now. Guys, I hate to say it, but the Awaken Bay community is a bunch of SPs.
00:26:12
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Welcome. Maybe they'll put us in the hole together. I hope not. Honestly, I lose my chance. I really shouldn't joke about that. It's not funny. No. But yeah, isn't that crazy? Y'all like that's some shit. They're insane. Like, and like, okay, so we talked about teal swan and how like you shouldn't let someone tell you your purpose. And like with this, if it doesn't make sense, or if people are telling you that like,
00:26:40
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The key to spirituality is secrets and insane shit. I don't know. Money goes. And money, right? I think as soon as money comes into it, it's like, nope, now it's bullshit. It's like you get those messages from people on Instagram that are like, oh, I have a message for you from your ancestors, pay me $15 and I'll give it to you. That's not real. That's never going to be real. Anything that's pay for the knowledge is never, ever the truth.
00:27:07
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Yeah, so just know, you know, we're giving it to you straight. We're giving it to you real. I shouldn't have said straight. We're giving it to you. We're giving you the truth. So fuck Scientology. Oh, openly, honestly, fuck them. One of our merchants is going to be SPs. We're going to have Suppressive Person merch. Shut the fuck up. I love this. And then we can have, honestly, we can have Fuck Scientology merch. Yes, I would.
00:27:37
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Oh my God, I love us. I love Awake and Bake. Also, thank you guys so much, you guys. We were trending as number one. We were charting as number one yesterday. For all spirituality and religion. And also, there was another one. I can't remember what it was. There's a spirituality column, and there's all spirituality and religion. And we were number one on both. We beat out Scientology this week.
00:28:04
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Fuck yeah, we did. Fuck Scientology. And Christian. Hey, we beat them all out. Guys, awake and bake is the answer. No, I'm just kidding. We're not a cult. We're a community. Pay me $5.
00:28:15
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No, it's only three dollars for our Patreon, which on our Patreon right now we actually are doing the dark feminine rehab series. So that's like a really cool journal course that Kelsey is taking everyone through that she also is creating right now. We're getting to workshop it in real time with her. Honestly, I'm fucking obsessed with it. She brings up things that I haven't even thought about. I'm still hooked on hooked on day four.
00:28:43
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I'm gonna give them a little taste, y'all. Think on this while we leave. What was your first experience or introduction to feminine energy? Think about that. Make sure you stay hatin' on Scientology and stay high. Bye.