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Episode 121- Bad Batch Recap Season 2 Episodes 9 and 10
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Welcome to The GALactic Podcast! In this episode, Andrea and Lauren chat about The Bad Batch Season 2 episodes 9 and 10! The team is dealing with aftermath their mission on Coruscant. Tech and Omega have a heart to heart conversation. Kids running a mine? They talk these topics and much more Go listen and enjoy!
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Transcript
Introductions and Work Life
00:00:09
Speaker
Hello everyone and welcome to the Glide to podcast. I am Lauren Romo and with me as always is my cousin and fellow nerd Andrea Gutierrez. Yo, yo, yo. What up? Chillin. Oh man. Busy. Yeah. I mean like work for me and I think for you too. Oh, always busy for me. Yeah. It's off the charts. Yeah.
Bad Batch Episodes & Mandalorian Season
00:00:35
Speaker
Yeah. So.
00:00:37
Speaker
Episodes nine and ten is bad batch. We are gonna talk about it for sure And then obviously we know Mandalorian starts as we're recording in a few days I'm doing my Mando rewatch. Mm-hmm. I'm doing my book of Boba Boba fat. You're in there Did you do Mando or you just went straight to Boba just Boba? You straight to Boba? Okay. Yeah, that's cool. I'm watching doing Mando I don't know if I'll get I might try to fit in Boba. I
00:01:05
Speaker
I'm trying just to get season one and two of Mando for sure to see if I can pick up anything and maybe some threads they'll they'll throw in season three. But yeah, it's a it's a solid rewatch. We'll maybe that will be another discussion. But yeah, for
Challenges of Covering Star Wars Content
00:01:20
Speaker
sure. Yeah. Yeah, definitely. I'm excited. I mean, I am really pumped and it feels like it came up so fast. So yeah, we were trying to figure out a recording schedule for that, too, because we know that batch.
00:01:34
Speaker
Mando we're all coming at us. So it's a it's a delightfully Good time to be a Star Wars fan. Oh, yeah, but also frustrating as a content creator cuz at least for us gotta find the time we got there's so much to talk about that It's just yeah, you just got we got to find the time. I didn't take Wednesday off the first Oh my schedule around normally I'm on Mondays instead of Wednesdays so my my boss was like
00:02:02
Speaker
Why are you working on Monday? And I was like, Oh, you know, someone's off and someone's off. So I figured I'd do that to fill in. He goes, why do you need Wednesday off? And I go, okay. Okay. Um, season three is coming out that day. Sorry. I love that. I try to have employee need.
Deep Dive: Star Wars Universe
00:02:27
Speaker
Love that. I love that so much bright kids. Let's let's get into the fun discussion We're gonna have about bad batch episodes 9 and 10, but before we do that This is your first time listening to us. Welcome We are a Star Wars podcast to discuss anything and everything within that galaxy far far away Each episode we will dive into one or two topics never general discussion on them Topics could be movies TV series books comics a specific character you name it and we talk about it
00:02:57
Speaker
So we are obviously beyond the midway point
Bad Batch Episodes 9 & 10 Analysis
00:03:00
Speaker
now. We are in episodes nine and 10. And these were good episodes. We're going to talk about it. I know we, I think we both have thoughts, obviously thoughts and feelings for sure. But I think episode nine for me was really a good, it was a shining episode for a lot of reasons. Episodes 10 was good. It was a solid episode. It was fun. Adventure moves the story along.
00:03:24
Speaker
I do like how they did this all in a two episode arc instead of maybe trying to throw it all in under one. I know that's just me, but. And let's let's I'll kick it off to you first, as always, thoughts, feelings, emotions. How did you feel about these two episodes? And then we'll dive into them separately. But what's your overall thoughts, pal?
00:03:44
Speaker
Yeah, I really liked Nine, the Crossing, that's what it was called, correct? And I thought it was a good ending to the clone conspiracy and all of that that came right before it, because you know with Echo leaving and how that affects the bad batch, it was nice that they wanted to
00:04:06
Speaker
address that in the series and not just gloss over it and move on to like missions and fighting the empire and all that stuff. So it was great in episode nine to kind of reconcile all their, their feelings about what they were having about echo. So that was really great. And it was a, it was a great episode for, you know, feelings and thoughts and thoughts and feelings and, and what it's like to talk through those things. And we'll go into that, I guess a little bit later.
00:04:36
Speaker
And then 10 was kind of, you know, I don't know, you know, I've said this entire season, like it's not filler, it's character development. It serves a purpose in the story. And but that 10, I just could not get a really good feeling out of it. It gave me a little bit of a feeling like there's there's bad all over the galaxy now because of the way the empire is. So there's that it's like there's these little pockets of bad all over the place.
00:05:06
Speaker
And, you know, it comes back to the theme of there's more of us.
Empire's Impact & Character Development
00:05:10
Speaker
So, you know, to me, I just wish like when we got to 10, the Clone Force 99 would have made a commitment to what they are, you know, or what they're gonna be. And since we're not there yet, it's a little frustrating, I think, but whatever. No, I like what you said. And I totally get that. That's a very valid, very valid opinion. For me,
00:05:35
Speaker
I do want to touch on what you said what you said though for sure because 10 was Good, like you're saying the overall themes of there's more of us, which we know is huge in Star Wars This is the the crux a main theme within Star Wars. We know that and then seeing how
00:05:57
Speaker
once the Empire took over how these other syndicates or how these other factions just started taking what they felt they deserved or what they just felt like they could just take control because there's no law. Make their own laws, right? Make their own rules.
00:06:19
Speaker
It's I get that and I in that for me Again big omega stuff throughout these two episodes huge omega stuff. Oh, yeah, you know and I think for Her to see in episode 10 that
00:06:37
Speaker
Juxtapose what you saw in episodes seven and eight well eight eight for her in episode eight Where was the Empire is evil now she even like seen for herself. Well Dang, dude, this isn't just the Empire. This isn't just Palpatine this is a problem overall and I get what you're saying where it feels like
00:07:03
Speaker
The bad batch should be at the point to where they feel they should be doing more as a collective. And maybe they do, and maybe we'll find that out obviously later on in the season. Maybe in the next episode, we get to see that because I think a lot is happening between them and Sid, which we'll touch about when we dive deep, because I think that's a thing.
00:07:24
Speaker
But yeah, I think these two episodes, big omega stuff, as always, which I love, big tech. I love tech. This is really good tech episodes, especially episode nine, the crossing. Again, the music.
00:07:40
Speaker
You and I, you know, we are obviously huge kind of fans. It's good music. Episode nine just had the nice little different vibe to it, like with just a different little Westerny kind of music. Yeah, it was very Western and the scenery, the location. Yeah, very.
00:08:01
Speaker
very western and it fit right the music that they chose fit you know so again overall again animation you and I can talk about that all day the animation is just stunning in every episode it's so good we meet new characters again we meet
00:08:20
Speaker
and see different, different planet and different, you know, how things are
Emotional Processing in Bad Batch
00:08:25
Speaker
run. So again, it, it opens, I think eyes, it opens the eyes of a mega, but then it does open the audience eyes as well, showing them that, yeah, obviously we know the empire, right? We know as huge Star Wars fans, we know the empire and we know the kind of ripple effect it had throughout the galaxy.
00:08:48
Speaker
you know, but seeing it again in these different pockets, it is, it is kind of eyeopening. And a lot of people have kind of pulled similar or compared like lady proxima to, uh, mock, uh, Mac, Mac, oh, was it Marco, Marco, Marco, something like that. Yeah, something like that. But they, it was, and that's an interesting compare though, because again, lady proxima, as we know from solo,
00:09:17
Speaker
did very similar things with like a young group of people that she was kind of controlling so again you get those kind of similarities but in just a different area of the galaxy and it made sense so yeah these two overall I really did like
00:09:37
Speaker
I don't, yeah, I don't like to use the word filler. You and I both say that we don't like to use the word filler. Cause I think each little step is a bigger moment for this crew. I think you and I have said that and we'll continue to say that it's a bigger step to each crew. Now maybe some of these steps are smaller and maybe we, we think they should be taking bigger steps.
00:10:00
Speaker
but they are steps, you know, regardless. And again, these writers are Dave Filoni and Jennifer Corbett for both of these episodes. And we had directors, Brad Rau, Stuart Lee,
00:10:14
Speaker
And Nathaniel Villanueva were the directors for these two episodes. Again, outstanding stuff. We talk about that every episode, and I will continue talking about it, how it's the team of the Bad Batch. It's not just Filoni, it's the team. It's the team that he has created or the team that is surrounded by him that maybe he has put together, however you want to say it,
00:10:40
Speaker
It's a solid crew, it's a solid writing, it's solid production at every level. And you can't deny that for sure. Let's get into episode nine, the crossing though, Ange, because I like what you said.
00:10:53
Speaker
that this was a nice little kind of continuation in the after effects of what we saw in episode eight. So talk to me about episode nine, big theme that you saw or any moments, because there's a lot. I think there's a lot in here. And it was more of a character driven kind of heavy episode. I don't know if you agree with that.
00:11:18
Speaker
But I feel like it wasn't, it was more of that. It was more with Omega, more with tech and kind of them, you know, talking and discussing a lot of getting emotional stuff, you know, human emotional things. So what'd you think about this episode for sure? Yeah, I really think, you know.
00:11:37
Speaker
Coming off of episode eight, the feeling of it was very solemn, like melancholy. You can get that right off the chest. Nobody seems like gung-ho to be doing another mission besides tech because that's how he processes things. He just does the next thing that he has to do because that's how he does it. And we get to that later in the episode.
00:12:03
Speaker
So it was, it was, we're still doing things for Sid. What the hell? We're talking about that, but yeah, it's a good opinion of that. We're still doing things for Sid. I totally, I like what they're doing. You know, I like the location that they're mining, that they have this, this mineral that's combustible, that's energy, like all that stuff. It's very, it's very cool.
00:12:29
Speaker
Um, but you can tell that everybody's a little off, right? Wreckers off, um, Hunter, everybody, Omega, uh, probably the most out of everybody. But she, I love when they allow her to mind the, the ipsium because it was just cool. Like, cause she's like this, this little like badass that can like do things, right? And like, yeah, I'll climb up in here and I'll stick this in here and flip this over. And I love it. I love it that she's like that.
00:12:59
Speaker
And then, you know, record just is record and loses the ship. And that's a huge deal, right? That's a huge deal. That's their home. And I think what this episode really did best was to show how different generations of people deal with things differently. And it's based off of, you know, age, time, progression, emotional maturity, all that stuff. And it's showing you the difference between those two, those two age groups.
00:13:28
Speaker
And, you know, some of them just see that as their ship and you can get another ship and but Omega sees it as their home. And you get that a lot in families where parents are ready to move on to another house and they want something new, but the children have an attachment to and can't imagine being anywhere else.
00:13:48
Speaker
It's teaching us that in a Star Wars-y way. So I thought that it was great. And I mean, the conversation at the end with Tekken Omega and him just explaining that he admits that he thinks so. He processes his thoughts differently, but that doesn't mean that he is different from Omega. It was a great teaching episode, I think.
Sid's Loyalty and Intentions
00:14:15
Speaker
um for kids and for parents and and for adults and in and anybody so
00:14:25
Speaker
It was a good episode. I enjoyed it, but I was also like, really, we're still doing things for Sid and then Sid shows up and she's a jerk. So what are we doing here? Why are we still running through this? So I was hoping that when we got to episode 10, we were going to address that, right? We were going to address Sid. We were going to address what the bad batch's purpose is going forward. And when we didn't get that in 10, I kind of was disappointed.
00:14:54
Speaker
No, I and I totally again, I could definitely understand that feeling because it did leave you like you're saying episode nine specifically.
00:15:05
Speaker
It was more of a, let's talk about our feelings. Let's talk about what is bothering us. Cause like you said, the team was off for sure from the, from the, from the start of the episode, them just walking down and just like Omega just kind of like, Oh, here we go again. Like you could just tell in her body language, like they just were not.
00:15:29
Speaker
They didn't they weren't about what they're what they were doing like they could care less and then you can see the progression of frustration from Omega and Then even frustration from you know, like you're saying wrecker from hunter a little bit but like you're saying tech was tech and I love that conversation like you said between him and Omega at the end when he was like, you know just because I process things differently and
00:15:57
Speaker
You know, it doesn't mean that I don't feel the same way you do. I'm just processing in a different way. You know, and when she says, you know, aren't we a family? And I like how he's like, yeah, yeah, yeah, we are. We are a family. And again, how he's processing what she is asking. And I like how he goes, you know, into like having to respect echo and he's even, he even mentions crosshair in that moment too.
00:16:26
Speaker
which is super interesting, I think, that you can tell that still, again, that bothers him still. Even though he might not talk about it like Omega is, he's still bothered by it. But he is in the mind frame of, I had to respect what their choice was. And I process that differently than you, but it doesn't mean that I don't feel the same frustration or the same feelings that
00:16:56
Speaker
you are expressing outwardly to everyone to tackle, to the team. So it is, like you said, it's a great teaching moment, a great moment between those two characters. And I love that we have gotten a lot of that between those two. And even that little moment- Yeah, for sure, between those two. We really have explored that since the beginning of season two. So it's been great that that still continues through the rest of the season.
00:17:26
Speaker
Yeah, I and I hope it continues for sure like through the rest through the rest of season two but then even that little moment of him obviously, you know after she kind of storms off and Tech goes to talk to her After kind of being nudged by wrecker and hunter like did you gotta because even that line like I mean even him saying like what is your issue like You felt that
00:17:53
Speaker
being in Omega's perspective in like shoes, that you can feel like how that would be like, dude, what's my issue? What is your problem? But again, to Tech, he was just like, he didn't understand why she was so upset about losing the Marauder. Because again, like you said to him, it's just a ship.
00:18:16
Speaker
It can be replaced, like he said, we'll find another transport, it's not a big deal. And again, like he said with Echo, he wasn't here when we were, you know, the bad batch was here before him, it's gonna be here before him after. Like he could not, he could not understand why she would be so attached or so emotional about those things because he wasn't. But again, that conversation of him saying like, just because I don't express it the way you do, doesn't mean I don't feel that.
00:18:45
Speaker
It's just that that's, that's not how I process what is going on. And then that, even that little moment of him, when he does go find her and he's like, you know, yeah, he's like, yeah, this is definitely, you know, the ipsium is way more, you know, um,
00:19:01
Speaker
This hip seems way better than Sid's mind. So let's get as much as we can. And he says, you know, you know, I'm going to give you the tool and you can do it. She's like, you trust me with that? And he's like, well, I know you can do the task. And I think in that moment, I think she was just I think she really wanted him to say, yeah, I trust you. But again, that was his way of saying it. Like, I know you can do the test. So, yeah, I trust you doing that.
00:19:25
Speaker
Again, that just leads to that bigger conversation. But yeah, this was such a big Omega and tech episode that I loved it a lot. I really did. And then you get that because I do want to bring up Sid because, yeah, I. Not that I don't like Sid. And you and I have talked about this on the show before where.
00:19:50
Speaker
We hear about her past from Malady Malagi and you get the sense that there is something going on and that he even warns them like, you know, you guys gotta watch your back with her. And even at that moment, we were like, huh, that's interesting. Well, I think it's coming back around. You know, we're seeing what he, what, what he was saying to tack and hunter or to tack and wrecker and to Omega in that episode.
00:20:22
Speaker
And I don't know what's going on with Sid. There's got to be something deeper. Or is that just who she is? Because maybe that is. Maybe this is just who she is. Maybe she just sees them as just expendable pieces. Whereas I think maybe you and I,
00:20:44
Speaker
I've said before, maybe she feels like they are a little more, more family than maybe other, you know, people in her crew are. But the way she acted in that, in that, in that end, man, she was just like, that's, Hey, your problem, not my problem. I told you guys, I could dip, see him and leave. You lost your ship. That's on you. That's not on me, but for her to even be like the kind of have to be,
00:21:09
Speaker
pulled into even like, okay, yeah, give me a few days. Like that was, that was, yeah, I, that was crazy. And I love, I got, honestly, I love tech. Like, dude, we've done so much for you. And she's like, he's listing what they have done. And she's like, I don't need to recap goggles. Like, but again, what, what's the deal then? Yeah. What, I mean, what are your thoughts, Ang? Is it?
00:21:35
Speaker
Is it that, is something going on with her or is it this is just who she is? This is just who she is. I mean, what's, what's, what was your feelings about that scene?
00:21:45
Speaker
Uh, for me, like, I don't think we're going to get like a twisty twist out of Sid. I think we've been told what she is and now it's being proven. I mean, that's just where I think we're going to go. I think it's going to be very straightforward. If it's not, and it ends up like she's being held hostage, you know, outside of the, the transmission and, and that's why she really, who knows, right? But, um, for right now, I think.
00:22:15
Speaker
The bad, the, I don't, it's kind of like being in a bad job, right? You're in a bad job and you have bad managers and you like want to leave, but like this is all you got, right? Right, right, right.
00:22:32
Speaker
And so you put up with it and then you think in these small moments that these people appreciate you and they don't. Number one, this is not how I am as manager. I just want everybody to know that. Just to clarify. I'm going to bring some guests on next week just to clarify completely.
00:22:51
Speaker
People get stuck and they're stuck right now, which is frustrating because you think that they have bigger hearts and minds to overcome that. And I just wish they would get away from Sid. And I think maybe that's all this is, is them just being stuck and then needing to move on. Or maybe there's some bigger lesson here. I don't know what it is, but right now I'm just gonna see it as they have a bad manager and they need to go find another job.
00:23:23
Speaker
And it's really interesting because again, I think there, there has been moments in season one, season two where she, you do get the feeling that she does care, that she doesn't just see them as expendable, but then you, we have gotten these moments, right? We have gotten these moments of her just being like, well, sorry, not sorry kids. Like I don't, I don't know what to tell you. Like this is,
00:23:51
Speaker
I think it has like that very small feeling of George Lucas's message of selfishness and self-centeredness is like the root of all evil and what puts you in the dark side or in the wrong end of the galaxy. And to me, that's all we're really seeing from Sid right now is selfishness and self-centeredness. So maybe that's also the lesson, I don't know.
00:24:20
Speaker
Do you and I and I like that pull it's a really good pull and I think that makes a lot of sense for her character Because maybe whatever happened And that episode of the racing Maybe they did change her because of dealing with her past. Maybe something's going again We don't know like you said, maybe she's being held hostage on the other end of that transmission We don't we don't know like we don't know but it definitely is
00:24:50
Speaker
something that you would think at this time, the bad batch as a crew would be like, all right, do we need to go? But we have seen that though, as well. We've no tech tech has said this multiple times now in the season about having to bail her out.
00:25:09
Speaker
you know, and just why are we keeping to do, why are we keep doing this to ourselves? Same with Echo and Echo came to the point where, you know, he left, he left. What is Hunter's problem? Let's be honest, it's a Hunter problem. That's a good point, that's a good point. I don't know if it's just he wants to believe in her or again, this is just,
00:25:37
Speaker
who they are as they just do the next mission, right? Just has all the clones that we know, especially in the last two episodes, like they didn't want, you know, they didn't care about pensions. They just wanted to be able to go on the next mission. And maybe that's just, again, that's just who he is and how he processes things. But I do think now we're at the point where I think, and I hope it comes to
00:26:08
Speaker
a realization for him that, okay, we do have to do something different because this is, this isn't working. And maybe they reach out to echo and say, Hey, you know what? You were right. Or whoever they reach out to or someone reaches out to them and they realize like, okay, this is, this is it. And I think more realization happened in episode 10.
Omega’s Influence and Growth
00:26:33
Speaker
Specifically with Omega again seeing that it's not just the Empire themselves But it's just these greedy corrupted people that are just out for themselves and then that reflects and Changes other people's lives Poorly and now she's seen that It's not like the bad batch doesn't know because tech says at the end of the episode. Yeah, we you know
00:27:04
Speaker
That's true. This is, you know, the empire isn't the only, the only problem in the galaxy right now, but there's more of us. And that's, and again, it's a strong message. It's a very strong message, but I hope this does change moving forward, how they interact with Sid. And I hope this makes them want to
00:27:30
Speaker
Again, do more for that cause that they did in this episode to help others. Cause I think that's what I hope is ultimately what they're going to do is help others, but specifically help other clones, right? But didn't you feel like it wasn't so much towards the end? It wasn't like, let's help others. It was like, let's get our ship and go. Yeah. No, no, no. I get what you're saying. No, I get what you're saying for sure. It did feel like they were like, okay, peace out.
00:28:01
Speaker
but they did help again, maybe not intentionally. They didn't go see, right? They didn't go do that just to do it, but they got thrown into it, but they did help instead of walking away or whatever. But again, well, I mean, I guess they really didn't have a choice in the matter because they were going after the ship, but I agree. They, they could have maybe stayed and help or they could have maybe done more
00:28:28
Speaker
But again, I guess they're just not at that place yet as a collective group. And maybe, again, I'm hoping, like you're saying, I'm hoping that we get there in these next couple of episodes. But this episode, then again, we got, again, interesting side of the galaxy. We see kids mining this ipsium for Marco. Marco. Marco. Moco.
00:28:54
Speaker
I think how Benny says it is so in Benny was the one that actually steals. Yeah, he says as Marco Benny was one that steals the ship and I thought for a hot second in the last episode it was Hondo
00:29:08
Speaker
It looked like Hondo. It had Hondo. Vibes. It had vibes. It did, yeah. It had vibes. So I was a little disappointed it wasn't Hondo. But again, we get this interesting character. We meet other characters that are like him. These, again, many kids that are doing this for Sid. And he's just treating them as, again, disposable people, not feeding them.
00:29:33
Speaker
like scaring them to saying well there's not enough but there clearly is because he's feasting on crap in his little office you know and he's just giving him one bowl for like seven people and he's forcing people to do like harder work longer hours to be able to get maybe a bowl for themselves and
00:29:55
Speaker
Like it's crazy. And again, it does give you lady proxima vibes for sure from solo. I like that comparison. But as a whole, again, I love the bad batch, again, helping out. Showing that, well, and it was really Omega. Omega was the one that showed Benny what was going on. And if it wasn't, again, it wasn't for Omega. Who knows what it would have happened. They might've been in that 10 years for mining
00:30:27
Speaker
But because of Omega, because of her heart, because of her caring, and then again, even that little moment that I think really did it was her giving Benny her ration. And he was like, why are you giving this to me? She's like, well, you helped. So yeah, here, here's, here's some rations for you. You know, you can see how desperate he was because in earlier in the episode, he ate one that was on the floor and like,
00:30:56
Speaker
You know blew on it dust came off and like he was like alright cool. Yep. This is I'll eat this like that's how Desperate he was and again, so you get why he did what he did But then again, it was because of Omega and her thoughtfulness her heart changed once he really saw you know what was going on that I
00:31:18
Speaker
Marco was holding everything back from them. He was, you know, the ipsium wasn't degraded as he was telling them. It was fine. He was keeping basically all the profits and barely giving them their fair share. So, you know, RIP Marco barely knew you, but that's okay. I didn't, I didn't mind that at all. So.
00:31:39
Speaker
So Ange, episode 10, your thoughts, feelings, any moments took out to you as well? Thoughts and feelings, thoughts and feelings. I kind of was like, you know, I wasn't invested too much into Benny or Drake or any of these little kids.
00:32:02
Speaker
Hard to do in one episode, really. Yeah. Yeah, I get you. But it put Omega in a situation where she has to choose to do the right thing, which she does, which is good. I find it interesting at the end that when Omega asks what they're going to do, and they're like, oh, we're going to continue to mine the ipsium.
00:32:25
Speaker
And then she tells them that they can pretty much be whatever they want in a big galaxy. Like, why isn't she saying that to Hunter? You know, it's just kind of interesting that they're not realizing yet that they're also kind of not in the best situation either. So when is that realization going to come?
00:32:47
Speaker
So, overall, it was just all right for me. I wasn't really feeling this episode and I'm just, I don't know, I was just kind of like, all right, cool, gotcha, sounds great. Again, it's moving the story for sure. I don't know if this was, again, it was a baby step. I don't know if that's how you feel.
00:33:12
Speaker
Yeah, I'm definitely not going to be like this show sucks. Oh, right. This is the end of Star Wars, you know, kind of like how I was with the most like how I was with the most Vespa squad. But I mean, that really got me going. And this one, like it serves its purpose, right? It serves its purpose to to
00:33:32
Speaker
use a platform like animation to teach people about the way to be. And I think that's what shows are now is their teachable life experiences. And that's what you got out of this episode. So to me, it's fine, but I'm not going to rewatch it and I'm not going to like, you know,
00:33:54
Speaker
talk about it and get hype about it. It just wasn't one of those, but it doesn't mean that it was bad or that it was the end or that it discredits the rest of the season. It just was what it was. It was an episode that moved the story along in a way. Yeah. No, and I totally agree. I am interested to see, again, like you said,
00:34:21
Speaker
Does this change anything for the Bad Batch moving forward? Like you're saying, Omega sees it. Omega, I think, I don't want to say the only one, but she is definitely the one that is vocal about what she's seeing.
00:34:42
Speaker
Again, it's I feel like that conversation between her and tech at the very end of this episode Showed that tech understood. Don't you think like I feel like he understands? The bigger issue but yeah completely but then where they go right what what about hunter and wrecker Do they not care or this just again are they so
Anticipating Bad Batch’s Future
00:35:07
Speaker
next mission, next mission, so cloned, you know, soldier that way that they just can't, they can't see it for some reason.
00:35:15
Speaker
I don't know. I don't know what it would. How do you feel? I mean, I think record is, I think again, I, we've said this before, Hunter's just trying to keep Omega safe. Yeah. He's not doing a really good job at it. That was a cool move though. Real quick. When he like rappled, uh, grappled gun, she fell. He swooped. That was cool. That was awesome. That was very cool. Yeah. That was a good sequence. Um, so it's like.
00:35:41
Speaker
He doesn't want to fight the empire because he doesn't want to draw attention, but it, you know, it's, there's gotta be a tipping point, um, coming. That's going to make them choose sides. Right. So episode 14, I think tipping point.
00:36:02
Speaker
Yeah, I think you are. I think that is the episode which is then leads into the last two episodes, 15, 16. So again, I think we are, it's maybe it's just a slower journey than as an audience or as fans. Maybe we want them to get there more quickly, but this is their journey. This is the steps they have taken that they are taking to, I think, get to that point of what you're talking about too.
00:36:32
Speaker
realize that they are in a bad situation with Sid, that they can be doing more for the clones and that they should be doing more. You know, and I feel like I don't know if it will be something that happens in the next couple of episodes, but eventually we are going to get to, like you're saying, that tipping point of them saying, okay, this isn't enough is enough.
00:37:01
Speaker
We have to do something. Is it, you know, maybe is it because Rex gets in trouble and, you know, Rex and Echo get in trouble. So they had to go save them. Is it something else that gets their attention that makes them realize, you know, time will tell. But I I do see what you're saying, though, as far as. Maybe they should have been seen who Sid really is sooner.
00:37:30
Speaker
But I think you're right in the fact that I think, A, Hunter just wants to protect his team and Omega. That's all. So he is, that he is in his head trying to avoid those situations like going to Coruscant, like getting more involved because he doesn't want to draw that attention. But I think it, something, and it has to come from him. I agree though, right? I mean, it has to be Hunter.
00:38:02
Speaker
He's the one that has to, I think, see the light. Because I think the others do. But they're just following him because he's the leader, right? So I don't know. I think he will. Again, I think that's just where we're going. I mean, I think we do see and get to a point where they want to do more and they maybe are part of the
00:38:27
Speaker
I don't want to say clone uprising obviously or clone trooper revolution, but it's them getting other clones safe or them helping other clones get out of the situation they are in. I mean, I don't know if that's how you feel, but I think that's where we're going. Would you agree or do you think this is going in a different direction? I don't know. I mean, I don't know.
00:38:54
Speaker
And I like being in that space. I don't like feeling like what's coming up next is going to be obvious. Good point. I think that's good screenwriting. I think that's telling a story. You shouldn't be able to predict the end. So I like that I don't really know what their fate is.
00:39:19
Speaker
So that's what keeps me coming back every week and watching another episode. But I don't want them to continue to do missions for Sid. I'm done with it. I want them to be done with it. I want to be done with it. I want them working towards either fighting the empire, helping the displaced clones. I want them doing something like that. There has to be a bigger message. There's small messages. There needs to be the big message.
00:39:52
Speaker
I agree, I do wonder now if how much we, A, get more said this season, and do they start pushing back more than they have with her? Like if she gives them a mission, are they able just to say flat out, no. We're not doing that one. We're not doing this, like when is that moment? Because I feel like it's coming.
00:40:20
Speaker
I agree. I feel like it's coming to the point where they're going to say, you know what, Sid, thanks for all that you've done for us, but we're out. Cause clearly she doesn't, it seems like she doesn't care, care enough about them to again, go out and rescue them. I mean, she's a trained ocean. Let's, I mean, fair. Let's call a spade a spade.
00:40:51
Speaker
That's fair. There are no good ones. There's not a lot of good trained oceans. That's fair. That's fair. That's fair. But what is right? But does she again, does she change in some way, shape or form? I don't, like you're saying, I agree with you where I think this is who she is.
00:41:15
Speaker
This is who Sid is, whether we are hoping that she changes or not, or whether she says and tries to tell herself that she's changed because she tried to tell that to herself a few episodes ago when she's talked to Malaygee, Malady, Maluggie. She tried to say, no, I changed. Does she believe that? I don't know. Maybe she feels it, but is she really showing it because
00:41:44
Speaker
Again, I think if she really cared, like really cared about them, she would have like, okay, yeah, I'm coming. Or she would have found a way to help them. But the way she acted is very sus. It really is. So yeah, I, I, I'm with you. I'm kind of,
00:42:04
Speaker
I'm kind of overdoing missions for her now. Like I really want them to start doing more meaningful, if that makes sense, more meaningful things moving forward than just going to get ipsium for Sid and then getting caught up in some local issue. Like I get, I mean, I get that's just part, again, that's been part of their journey though too.
00:42:32
Speaker
is doing these missions, getting caught up in these situations and helping out locals. Right. But again, I see what you're saying. Like where, when is the point of them realizing, okay, this is, this is it. Like we have to move on. Like this can't go on anymore. I agree. I agree. But still like you're saying,
00:42:56
Speaker
great episode, good show, doesn't take any weight from the show overall, and still moves the story along.
Speculation & Season Progression
00:43:05
Speaker
Maybe again, maybe not at the pace that we would like, but at a pace to where they're telling this story and they feel this is how the story should be told for this crew. And we'll wrap it up. Any final thoughts, feelings on these last two episodes? Anything you want to bring up before we skedaddle?
00:43:26
Speaker
No. I mean, the animation is beautiful. The music is right on. I mean, it's beautiful to watch. It's good storytelling. I'm, you know, I'm just ready to kind of sew some ends up, right? And get a little bit of payoff from a couple of things that happened in the beginning of the season. So.
00:43:49
Speaker
No, I agree. Again, overall good stuff. We can talk about the animation overall. The music is so good. It's just, it's just really good. It's just really, really good. So yeah, can't wait to see where they go from here. Can't wait to see how this, where this leads to. Cause like you're saying, it could lead to a lot of places. Could lead to a lot of places, but
00:44:16
Speaker
They are telling it the way they want to tell it. And we will find that out towards the end of obviously this season. And again, do we get more? We talked about that before too. We'll see. We'll see if they, if they are getting, if we are getting another season, I hope they hold that announcement until after this season. I know they announced season two before the end of season one, which was fine. I mean, that kind of made sense.
00:44:44
Speaker
But if they do and are actively doing like a season three, I hope they hold that off. Cause I want to see how this, how this ends. I want to see how the season ends. And then I want to see if a, does it leave it on like a cliffhanger, so to speak, or do they wrap it up?
00:45:04
Speaker
So I don't want to really know the answer if they say like season three is on its way before the finale. But we'll see. If they want to do that that way, then that's their prerogative too. They can tell us. They can tell us for sure. More Star Wars, the better for sure.
Podcast Wrap-up & Social Media
00:45:18
Speaker
All right, kids, that's it. That's the show. Thanks for listening to us.
00:45:23
Speaker
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00:45:43
Speaker
J-Hope's going into the military, guys. I'll give you the BTS news. Is that for reals? Realsies? Yeah, yeah. He's doing his enlistment soon. That's breaking BTS news, kids. Breaking BTS news here on The Galactic Podcast. Craziness. All right, kids. That's it. And as always, may that force be with you. Always. Always.