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YCCMK Takes a Course At Spiritual U.
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Welcome to the You Can Call Me Karen Podcast. This week we are talking everything Woo! – This is part 2 of our deep dive into spirituality and religion. This week, we welcome special guest Lex Smith, the founder of Spiritual U. Lex is a seer, visionary, luminary, and an expert meditation and energy guide. With her extensive experience in spiritual consulting and astrology, she brings a wealth of knowledge on the mystical and "woo-woo" aspects of spirituality. In this episode, we explore everything from astrology and energy healing to visionary practices and how they intersect with traditional spirituality and religion. Lex shares her journey and insights into spiritual awakening, how woo-woo practices can enhance personal growth, and the deeper layers of connection to the universe. Whether you're a skeptic or a spiritual seeker, this conversation will leave you with new perspectives on the mystical side of life.
As always - a big thank you to Steve Olszewski for the art and images, Calid B and SJ Fadeaway for the musical mixings, and huge credit to Malvina Reynolds (writer) and Schroder Music Co. (ASCAP) (publisher) of the song “Little Boxes”.
Links to sources referenced in this episode:
@lexmsmith
@spiritualu
Lastly, please follow us on Instagram (@youcancallmekaren), TikTok (@YCCMKPod), and like/subscribe wherever you get your podcasts!
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Introduction to 'You Can Call Me Karen' Podcast
00:00:24
Manni
Welcome to the You Can Call Me Karen podcast, where we talk about casting spells, mixing potions, and practicing witchcraft.
00:00:27
Steph
Thank
00:00:36
Manni
This week, we will be joined by Lex Smith, the founder of Spiritual You.
00:00:36
Steph
okay
00:00:41
Manni
Lex is a seer, visionary, and luminary. She also is a meditation and energy guide who practices spiritual consulting
00:00:51
Lex
Mm-hmm.
00:00:52
Manni
and astrology. We are so happy to have her on You Can Call Me Karen to talk about some woo shit. Embrace your inner Karen and inner witch.
00:00:59
Steph
Thank you.
00:01:00
Lex
Mm-hmm.
00:01:03
Manni
This is going to be a good one.
00:01:16
Manni
Hey, bitches.
00:01:18
Lex
Thank you.
High School Memories and Humor
00:01:19
Manni
it's a And I'm saying bitches with an E, not an I, which means it's endearing.
00:01:25
Steph
a
00:01:25
Manni
Okay?
00:01:26
Steph
yeah
00:01:26
Karen, Steph, & Manni
Oh, is that the delineation?
00:01:26
Manni
Bitches. That is.
00:01:29
Karen, Steph, & Manni
Thank you.
00:01:29
Manni
yeah but So me and my friend Tara, Steph, I think you know this story, but me and my friend Tara in high school made up this song that was like, I used to spell dog like D-O-Double-G.
00:01:30
Steph
D-A-W-G.
00:01:41
Manni
Now I spell dog. Dog.
00:01:45
Lex
www
00:01:48
Manni
which means we spell it which way?
00:01:50
Steph
and
00:01:50
Lex
um
00:01:51
Manni
Which way are we now spelling dog?
00:01:51
Steph
yeah d aw
00:01:53
Karen, Steph, & Manni
With an A-W.
00:01:55
Manni
Yay!
00:01:55
Lex
w w
00:01:55
Karen, Steph, & Manni
I passed the test.
00:01:59
Manni
And I don't know why, but when I just said that about bitches, it reminded me of that song.
00:02:04
Karen, Steph, & Manni
It's a good song, Manny. It's a good song.
00:02:06
Manni
Thank you.
00:02:06
Steph
Exactly. Well done.
00:02:07
Manni
We had, there's a couple in our little toolbox there that Tara and I had. So um I'll keep bringing them out.
00:02:15
Lex
yeah
00:02:16
Manni
Keep you guys on your toes. um But yes, this week I am joined with um my two fabulous co-hosts, Steph and Karen. Hello.
00:02:25
Steph
Hello.
00:02:25
Karen, Steph, & Manni
Hello.
Lex Smith: Seer and Visionary
00:02:27
Manni
our special guest, Lex Smith. Hi, Lex.
00:02:30
Lex
Hi, guys. What a pleasure.
00:02:31
Manni
ah
00:02:32
Lex
What good company I'm in.
00:02:33
Manni
Yes, Oh, we feel the same.
00:02:35
Steph
Love
00:02:37
Manni
It's only because we're looking at you, Lex.
00:02:37
Lex
ah oh
00:02:39
Manni
um
00:02:39
Steph
you.
00:02:40
Manni
It's true. she's She's a beaut. You guys got to jump on YouTube and see.
00:02:43
Steph
Love you.
00:02:45
Manni
um Before we get started, though, ah Lex, can you give us a little brief peek into who you are, um what you do? Maybe you could just tell us like what those fancy words in your Instagram bio mean for those listeners.
00:02:58
Lex
yeah okay we'll see we'll figure it out together
00:03:02
Manni
Yeah.
00:03:05
Lex
i'm still trying to figure out yes
00:03:08
Manni
Yes, that's the best answer. We love you.
00:03:10
Lex
yes yeah that's fine Well, I should just put out there, i am always becoming, we'll just, we'll just say that right off the bat.
00:03:15
Manni
o
00:03:17
Lex
um
00:03:17
Manni
Yes.
00:03:19
Lex
ah My Instagram bio, I actually just rehatched that into seer, visionary, and illuminary because part of part of what I do is channel and work with energy and work outside of things that we can see with our two eyes.
00:03:36
Lex
And so seer, illuminary, visionary, um I have ADHD, so my brain works in these are really crazy and funny ways.
00:03:43
Manni
yeah
00:03:45
Karen, Steph, & Manni
Same girl.
00:03:46
Lex
Yeah. Yeah.
Perspectives on Healing
00:03:48
Lex
And so I'm very, very visual. And that visual, ah I say that my my brain is another eye.
00:03:50
Manni
um
00:03:56
Lex
And so I tend to see things more with my brain um rather than with my two eyes. And so that's where visionary comes from. see um Some people lean towards calling me a healer.
00:04:11
Lex
i actually steer away from that um just as a personal preference um because I believe that we all heal ourselves. I just illumin illuminate what needs to maybe be healed or looked at.
00:04:19
Manni
help
00:04:24
Lex
so Yeah, yeah.
00:04:25
Steph
Thank
00:04:25
Manni
Wow. She does not.
00:04:27
Lex
And then at yeah it'll probably change in another two years or so.
00:04:29
Manni
What's that?
00:04:31
Lex
so That's what I'm working with now.
00:04:31
Steph
you.
00:04:32
Karen, Steph, & Manni
that.
00:04:33
Lex
Yeah.
00:04:33
Manni
Gosh.
00:04:34
Karen, Steph, & Manni
like that
00:04:34
Manni
I was just going to say, like, your brand of humility is like what I aim for in life. I'm like, nah, bitch, I'm a healer.
00:04:40
Lex
yeah
00:04:42
Manni
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
00:04:44
Lex
but
00:04:46
Manni
yeah p
00:04:46
Lex
yeah that That word has been hijacked. Like that is my, that might be, at like that might be my reclaiming my Karen is that, that word has been hijacked, I think.
00:04:50
Manni
home
00:04:51
Karen, Steph, & Manni
Yeah.
00:04:57
Manni
Yeah. yeah
00:04:58
Steph
Mm-hmm.
00:04:58
Lex
Mm-hmm.
00:04:58
Karen, Steph, & Manni
I think you're right.
00:04:58
Manni
i I think you're right, too.
00:04:59
Lex
Mm-hmm.
00:05:00
Manni
I think you're right. um Speaking of
Cultural Anecdotes from Mexico
00:05:02
Manni
Karens, let's go ahead and and jump in with our Karens before we get too deep into the conversation with Lex.
00:05:04
Lex
Mm-hmm.
00:05:08
Manni
um So um in the spirit of our podcast, we do Karen stories, our Karens of the week. Lex, I believe you have a Karen um ready to share with our listeners.
00:05:18
Lex
She
00:05:20
Manni
But um let's kick it to the actual Karen on this podcast first to jump in with who who you calling in Karen this week.
00:05:24
Lex
did.
00:05:24
Karen, Steph, & Manni
Yes.
00:05:30
Karen, Steph, & Manni
Awesome. Yes, I can get us kicked off. So I just got back from spring break with my family and we were in Mexico. It was so lovely.
00:05:41
Manni
Ooh, did you show your titties?
00:05:41
Karen, Steph, & Manni
we were staying.
00:05:42
Manni
Remember
00:05:43
Karen, Steph, & Manni
um
00:05:44
Lex
yeah yeah
00:05:46
Manni
when MTV Spring Break was in Mexico?
00:05:48
Steph
Oh, yeah.
00:05:50
Karen, Steph, & Manni
that threw me off. I was like, why would I, nobody wants that.
00:05:51
Lex
Thank
00:05:52
Steph
I was like...
00:05:55
Manni
I can think of one man at least on this planet who wants that.
00:05:55
Lex
you.
00:06:00
Karen, Steph, & Manni
You're right. He does want that.
00:06:01
Manni
Hmm.
00:06:02
Steph
his
00:06:02
Karen, Steph, & Manni
Love you, boo. Um, yeah, we were, uh, we were not on MTV spring break in Mexico. ah we had our son with us. It was very PC. Um, we were staying at this lovely resort and,
00:06:17
Karen, Steph, & Manni
And admittedly, I thought I would come back from spring break with like a plethora of Karen story options. And on the last night there, Bob and I were sitting having a drink and discussing like that I needed to prepare for this.
00:06:34
Karen, Steph, & Manni
Yeah.
00:06:34
Manni
Hmm.
00:06:35
Karen, Steph, & Manni
And so he was like helping me think of Karen's.
00:06:36
Lex
Oh.
00:06:38
Karen, Steph, & Manni
I literally thought I would just like look over and find a Karen.
00:06:41
Karen, Steph, & Manni
It's just, you know, it's just the environment for it.
00:06:41
Steph
Mm-hmm.
00:06:41
Steph
Mm-hmm.
00:06:44
Karen, Steph, & Manni
um And shockingly, it was very pleasant, but there was one Chad. And so one night we were at dinner um and like
00:06:51
Lex
oh
00:06:56
Karen, Steph, & Manni
it's It's a kind of smaller resort. They have, I think, three restaurants, which actually, as I say that out loud, doesn't make it sound smaller at all. But anyways, smaller restaurants, ah smaller resort. And so you like have to make reservations, which is kind of annoying, but is what it is.
00:07:13
Karen, Steph, & Manni
And Bob was like, dude, this guy... So I kind of like peek to see what's happening. And it's like quintessential ah old white wealthy man with like a Navy sport coat that has like the white line lining.
00:07:31
Steph
Mm-hmm.
00:07:31
Karen, Steph, & Manni
i don't know what that is.
00:07:32
Steph
Mm-hmm.
00:07:32
Manni
Wow.
00:07:33
Karen, Steph, & Manni
um And like slacks and boat shoes and white hair. He was just owning his Chad and wasn't, it wasn't.
00:07:41
Manni
Sounds hot.
00:07:42
Steph
and
00:07:44
Karen, Steph, & Manni
Um, And he was like, ah apparently he was making a big scene because he made a reservation four weeks ago. was, it was 732.
00:07:53
Lex
Oh
00:07:54
Karen, Steph, & Manni
his reservation was clearly for 730. the person who was him was like,
00:08:01
Karen, Steph, & Manni
and the person who was seating him was like we're We're just we're just cleaning your table like it'll be it'll be one minute.
00:08:08
Steph
Okay.
00:08:09
Manni
Jesus.
00:08:09
Lex
my gosh.
00:08:10
Manni
Yeah.
00:08:10
Karen, Steph, & Manni
And literally like one minute later they sat him but he was like calling the manager making a big scene like so talking about how he had the reservation four weeks ago and Bob was like this guy man.
00:08:10
Steph
What?
00:08:16
Manni
What?
00:08:17
Lex
my gosh
00:08:17
Steph
Okay.
00:08:19
Manni
Oh my God. Yes.
00:08:23
Manni
God.
00:08:24
Karen, Steph, & Manni
So, Chad, get it together. in fairness, like, but we were trying to be polite afterwards, ah like, once they got seated, and they, they were, he was, this Chad was old.
00:08:35
Karen, Steph, & Manni
I mean, he had, like, full white hair.
00:08:35
Steph
and her
00:08:37
Lex
I
00:08:37
Karen, Steph, & Manni
He, he was probably, i don't know, in his 60s or something, and, and he was with his, wait, but.
00:08:41
Manni
That is not old girl.
00:08:43
Steph
That is not my
00:08:43
Karen, Steph, & Manni
But wait, hear me out. But wait, hear me out.
00:08:45
Lex
can't get.
00:08:46
Karen, Steph, & Manni
He was with his parents. And so he had like really old people with him. And so Bob was like, well, maybe, you know, like maybe that's what he was being overly sensitive about because the old people needed to like, you know, sit down or something.
00:08:53
Manni
Right.
00:08:56
Steph
own.
00:09:00
Lex
Yeah.
00:09:02
Steph
Sit down.
00:09:04
Karen, Steph, & Manni
But either way, it was literally like they sat down at 734.
00:09:08
Karen, Steph, & Manni
So why?
00:09:08
Manni
Right.
00:09:09
Steph
Mm-hmm.
00:09:10
Karen, Steph, & Manni
Why are we freaking out right now, Chad? And also you're in a magical place on vacation.
00:09:12
Manni
Yeah. Right.
00:09:15
Steph
a You're to be late for sitting around.
00:09:15
Karen, Steph, & Manni
Just like take it down.
00:09:15
Manni
It's vacation.
00:09:15
Lex
and
00:09:16
Manni
Yeah. yeah
00:09:18
Karen, Steph, & Manni
So any anyways. Bed.
00:09:20
Manni
Right. You're gonna be late for while.
00:09:24
Karen, Steph, & Manni
Bed.
00:09:24
Lex
ah
00:09:25
Karen, Steph, & Manni
addd
00:09:26
Lex
Where else do you have to be?
00:09:26
Karen, Steph, & Manni
bed
00:09:28
Manni
Yes.
00:09:28
Lex
i know
00:09:29
Manni
And like the whole, this is the thing that irritates me about like traveling to resorts sometimes is the The Americanization of resorts, and I'm not saying this is what your um resort did, but when we went to Mexico, I felt like it was not like this, but I feel like a lot of resorts, like between the food and like the services, they like default to American culture.
00:09:53
Karen, Steph, & Manni
Oh yeah.
00:09:54
Manni
And it's like, I did not travel to want to be like embraced in American culture.
00:09:54
Lex
Mm-hmm.
00:09:57
Steph
Yes. Mm-hmm.
00:09:59
Manni
And I feel like so often, like the reason why you were expecting to see more Karens is because like, so often people forget that like culturally, like people are not like as on time.
00:10:11
Steph
um you know
00:10:12
Manni
when you travel into these foreign countries like we are in America.
00:10:12
Lex
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
00:10:16
Manni
And so like it just it upsets me because like what's the point in traveling to see these beautiful places and to interact with these different communities if you're still going to expect what you would expect back at home?
00:10:17
Karen, Steph, & Manni
Yeah.
00:10:22
Lex
hey
00:10:31
Karen, Steph, & Manni
Because we are a a country of Karens and Chads.
00:10:31
Steph
Yeah.
00:10:34
Steph
Mm-hmm.
00:10:34
Karen, Steph, & Manni
Like, we just expect everybody to be us when we're there.
00:10:35
Lex
Thank you.
00:10:35
Steph
Mm-hmm.
00:10:36
Manni
Speak for yourself.
00:10:38
Steph
Mm-hmm.
00:10:40
Karen, Steph, & Manni
So I expected to see more Karen behavior.
00:10:41
Manni
Yeah.
00:10:43
Karen, Steph, & Manni
And I was, I guess, pleasantly surprised. Maybe they're all just, like, listening to the pod and being kinder to everyone.
00:10:49
Lex
and
00:10:49
Karen, Steph, & Manni
i don't know.
00:10:54
Manni
That's the hope at least.
00:10:56
Karen, Steph, & Manni
It's definitely what's happening, by the way.
00:10:57
Steph
again
00:10:58
Karen, Steph, & Manni
Definitely. Definitely.
00:10:59
Manni
Certainly just like us getting sponsors, which should we break for that?
00:11:02
Karen, Steph, & Manni
Yeah.
00:11:03
Manni
No, I'm just kidding.
00:11:03
Lex
Manifesting.
00:11:04
Karen, Steph, & Manni
need. Yes.
00:11:05
Lex
Manifesting.
00:11:06
Manni
Yes.
00:11:07
Karen, Steph, & Manni
no need
00:11:07
Manni
Manifesting. Speaking of which, thinking of the manifesting, Lex, let's go to you.
00:11:08
Steph
You're
00:11:09
Lex
Manifesting.
00:11:13
Manni
Who's your, who are you calling Karen this week?
00:11:13
Lex
ah
Cybersecurity Concerns
00:11:16
Lex
All right. Well, I'm going to call. Okay. so based on that answer, I'm going to go bold as well. um
00:11:24
Manni
We're listening.
00:11:24
Lex
My Karen is ah the government. So we're going right on in.
00:11:28
Karen, Steph, & Manni
yeah
00:11:28
Manni
Right sis.
00:11:28
Steph
very black you're speaking my language.
00:11:30
Manni
we're listening
00:11:30
Lex
Hey, guys. I'm going call you. um'm in aqua I'm an Aquarius moon. My fight is not with individuals. My fight is with the system. So, yeah.
00:11:41
Manni
right on c si
00:11:41
Steph
Mm-hmm.
00:11:41
Karen, Steph, & Manni
Yes.
00:11:41
Lex
So...
00:11:42
Steph
Mm-hmm.
00:11:44
Lex
yeah
00:11:44
Steph
Mm-hmm.
00:11:44
Lex
so My Karen of the week. um I won't get into it, but um a lot of things that have happened to me this year have led me down a path of um going on a deep dive into my data, my taxes, my finances, my business.
00:12:02
Lex
Like I am in the weeds, like learning about just a lot of business practices, identity theft, things like that.
00:12:05
Manni
Oh.
00:12:10
Lex
um Rebranding all these things. Well, Long, long, long story short, because it is a long one. ah i it is a long one.
00:12:20
Lex
I found out that on my laptop, not this computer, but my laptop, um my firewall had been breached. And so, yeah.
00:12:27
Manni
oh
00:12:29
Lex
So for those of you that don't know, firewall is basically. um the system in which on the computer that keeps, you know, hackers, bots from coming into your network and just fucking shit up basically.
00:12:43
Steph
Mm-hmm.
00:12:43
Karen, Steph, & Manni
Mm-hmm.
00:12:43
Karen, Steph, & Manni
Mm-hmm.
00:12:44
Steph
Mm-hmm.
00:12:44
Manni
Yeah.
00:12:44
Lex
And so again, long story short, ah I have found out that, While my firewall was down, a network had come in and bypassed what's called my proxy settings.
00:12:59
Lex
And so I don't even really know what that means. So, you know, just pretend like we all know what that means.
00:13:02
Manni
shame on
00:13:04
Lex
Some network.
00:13:04
Manni
Yeah. Proxy settings.
00:13:05
Lex
yeah
00:13:05
Manni
Got it. Roger that.
00:13:06
Steph
member
00:13:08
Lex
Cool. So um they bypassed my proxy settings and that I found a network on here um that had bypassed my proxy settings. So in true Scorpio fashion, i am an Internet sleuth. I am a detective. I will find the truth.
00:13:24
Lex
I will find the truth at all costs.
00:13:24
Manni
Yeah.
00:13:26
Lex
um I traced this IP network address back and guess where it landed, you guys.
00:13:33
Karen, Steph, & Manni
No.
00:13:33
Lex
the Ohio, the Ohio, close, the Ohio State House.
00:13:34
Manni
The White House. ah
00:13:39
Karen, Steph, & Manni
Oh my gosh.
00:13:39
Steph
Mm-hmm.
00:13:39
Manni
What?
00:13:41
Lex
So, ah we're not getting all conspiracy theory here yet ah because as my very grounded, very harmonious Libra partner reminded me about eight months ago, the Ohio State House, the government got a data breach, a data breach.
00:13:46
Manni
Yes.
00:13:50
Manni
okay
00:13:57
Manni
on Yeah.
00:13:58
Lex
They probably breached their own data.
00:13:58
Karen, Steph, & Manni
Mmm.
00:14:00
Lex
Well, Anyway, okay, you know, fair, you know, the government's a mess, fine. Okay. Now, going forward, i am trying to pay my taxes, right? My Ohio State taxes, because I'm a proud business owner now.
00:14:16
Lex
ah My new firewall settings that I had set up on my computer, um when I went to go pay, ah get into the, it's called business gateway, to go and pay my taxes,
00:14:29
Lex
ah My new firewall setting is stopping me from going on to the government websites.
00:14:35
Karen, Steph, & Manni
Oh.
00:14:36
Lex
so good So the government websites still are not secure.
00:14:41
Karen, Steph, & Manni
Insecure, yeah.
00:14:42
Lex
Yeah. oh
00:14:44
Steph
No.
00:14:44
Lex
guys, that is my case government.
00:14:45
Karen, Steph, & Manni
Karen.
00:14:47
Lex
Get it together.
00:14:49
Karen, Steph, & Manni
Get it together.
00:14:49
Lex
Right.
00:14:49
Manni
Wow.
00:14:49
Lex
yeah
00:14:49
Manni
No. Yeah.
00:14:51
Steph
No.
00:14:51
Lex
Get it together if you want your tax money, guys. So now I have to go.
00:14:54
Manni
Yeah.
00:14:54
Steph
and
00:14:55
Lex
i have to drive my ass all the way to this tax department.
00:15:00
Karen, Steph, & Manni
o
00:15:00
Lex
and go pay my taxes. I know, right?
00:15:01
Manni
no why
00:15:02
Lex
o Big, o as if we didn't hate the process already.
00:15:03
Manni
anyway
00:15:05
Steph
That's a big deal.
00:15:07
Lex
Right?
00:15:08
Manni
yeah
00:15:08
Karen, Steph, & Manni
Yes, seriously.
00:15:08
Lex
ah Yeah.
00:15:09
Manni
Oh, my God. And like, imagine if you weren't your Scorpio self of like determined to want to do that.
00:15:17
Steph
yeah
00:15:18
Manni
Like that is how people get in trouble.
00:15:18
Lex
Listen.
00:15:19
Manni
so Like.
00:15:20
Lex
read listen
00:15:20
Karen, Steph, & Manni
a And it's not even your fault.
00:15:21
Lex
and and
00:15:23
Karen, Steph, & Manni
Yeah.
00:15:23
Steph
and
00:15:23
Manni
Right.
00:15:23
Lex
Right, and i it's only going to get worse, you guys. I feel like with it.
00:15:26
Manni
No.
00:15:28
Lex
Well, let's not put that out in the universe. Sorry.
00:15:30
Steph
might never
00:15:30
Lex
We're not putting that on another timeline.
00:15:33
Manni
edit that out
00:15:33
Lex
on it On another timeline, it's going to get worse. Not this one.
00:15:38
Karen, Steph, & Manni
Oh, boy.
00:15:39
Manni
Now this one, everything's fine. We're fine.
00:15:43
Steph
be a who
00:15:45
Lex
We're fine. We got this.
00:15:47
Manni
um
00:15:47
Karen, Steph, & Manni
It's so weird, Manny, that you and your girlfriend in high school just made up songs all the time. It's so out of character.
00:15:53
Steph
Yeah. Mm-mm.
00:15:55
Karen, Steph, & Manni
at all.
00:15:55
Manni
I know it's not something that you guys would expect of me.
00:15:59
Karen, Steph, & Manni
not at all
00:16:01
Manni
um All right. Well, that Karen blew my mind literally. And um yeah, the government, get your shit together.
00:16:11
Lex
Please, for the sake of...
00:16:12
Manni
As well as older white men who want to be treated differently at resorts.
00:16:12
Steph
Please.
00:16:13
Lex
ah
00:16:17
Manni
Those are your Karens for the week.
00:16:17
Steph
fifty
00:16:18
Lex
Same thing.
00:16:20
Steph
Mm-mm.
00:16:30
Manni
All right. So it's funny. Like I'm looking at my notes and it's like, I'm just going to dive in. And last week we were like, we're just diving in.
00:16:38
Steph
Yeah, you're
00:16:38
Manni
And then Lex said something about, I'm just going to dive in.
00:16:39
Lex
okay
00:16:39
Karen, Steph, & Manni
Yeah, we're diving.
00:16:41
Manni
We're diving.
00:16:42
Steph
good.
00:16:42
Karen, Steph, & Manni
yeah
00:16:43
Manni
We're diving.
00:16:43
Lex
Deep end, let's go.
00:16:43
Karen, Steph, & Manni
Lots of pool metaphors here.
00:16:45
Lex
ah
00:16:45
Manni
Yeah. I mean, it's only because we're in reality drowning. So we're just like, we have control of the situation.
00:16:51
Steph
you
00:16:53
Lex
and
00:16:54
Manni
Yeah.
00:16:54
Lex
You better start to learn how to swim.
00:16:56
Manni
Yes, you better.
00:16:57
Lex
and a
00:16:59
Manni
um So we'll just get started. This again, as Karen mentioned last week, is a two-part series on spirituality and spiritual practice. Lex, we all met you um around the fall at a sound bath meditation when we were traveling for an alumni reunion in Columbus.
00:17:16
Manni
A lot of our friends recommended you as, oh should I edit this part out? A healer. Yikes.
00:17:21
Steph
Mm-hmm.
00:17:22
Lex
Oh, it's fine.
00:17:22
Manni
Okay. They recommended you as a bitch.
00:17:22
Lex
it I'll take it. I'll take it.
00:17:25
Karen, Steph, & Manni
Bye.
00:17:25
Lex
I just don't call myself that.
00:17:25
Manni
No, I'm just kidding.
00:17:26
Lex
If someone else, go off, go off.
00:17:28
Manni
No.
00:17:29
Lex
Right?
00:17:29
Manni
um yeah they recommended you as a bitch no i just going to
00:17:33
Steph
yeah
00:17:34
Lex
Good.
00:17:36
Manni
no um
00:17:37
Lex
I'm reclaiming that word. Okay.
00:17:39
Manni
Yeah, its with an E, by the way, um who they felt connected to and we would have to agree. So last week, Steph and I were prompted by Karen to talk about our spiritual journeys. Karen shared a little bit about her background.
00:17:54
Manni
And I thought maybe you could start by telling us about, like, maybe you don't want to go deep into your spiritual background, but possibly you could talk about a spiritual awakening that you feel was valuable in landing you in the position of where you are today.
00:18:02
Lex
and
00:18:07
Lex
Yeah, yeah, well, it's a wild story. I'm not gonna lie. oh i just want to put a little disclaimer. I have had two spiritual awakenings, and now I think I'm in my third one.
Spiritual Awakenings
00:18:21
Lex
So what what a lot of people don't talk about is we don't just have one spiritual awakening because things change over time.
00:18:26
Manni
Right.
00:18:26
Steph
Yeah.
00:18:28
Lex
The world changes. We wake up to many different um awarenesses over the course of our lifetime. So not to get too deep into it, but my first one was when I was a teenager.
00:18:43
Lex
And this one, for anyone that wants to hear about oh, it was beautiful, and I found God, and, like, it was sunshine and roses, and I, you know, like, all these things. No. They...
00:18:55
Manni
you No, they're very yucky. The spiritual awakenings are gross.
00:18:59
Lex
they They are very, very yucky.
00:19:01
Karen, Steph, & Manni
Hmm.
00:19:01
Manni
They hurt.
00:19:01
Steph
Thank you.
00:19:02
Lex
And so my first one came ah when I was a teenager. I was in a pretty darn abusive relationship with a guy was a guy boo.
00:19:13
Lex
And so ah by the grace of God and my family and just, you know, getting out of a small town, um I was able to escape that. oh However, when someone goes through such a harsh trauma, um it does awaken you to the ways of the world, to people's, um you know, there's a lot of good people out there.
00:19:36
Lex
There's also a lot of Karens and there's also a lot of like malicious Karens.
00:19:38
Steph
Thank you.
00:19:40
Manni
oh
00:19:40
Lex
And so that was my first spiritual awakening um because I was pretty sheltered as a child. My mom and dad wanted to keep my innocence for as long as they could. um And so it always, it's always a guy, you guys.
00:19:54
Manni
Yes.
00:19:54
Karen, Steph, & Manni
Hmm.
00:19:55
Lex
And so that was my first one, got out of that. The second one came around, oh, what year was that? What is time? Time is a solution. 2015, 2016. was trying to heal from all this trauma and found yoga.
00:20:11
Lex
So I stepped into like yoga philosophy, got my yoga teacher training, meditation training, trauma-sensitive yoga teacher training. um And that awakening was much more beautiful.
00:20:19
Steph
um
00:20:22
Karen, Steph, & Manni
o
00:20:22
Steph
villa
00:20:22
Lex
um That's when I was very free and blissful and joyous and thought I would move to India, decided not to want not to do that, literally decided that wasn't for me and and stepped out more into the community.
00:20:32
Manni
eat, pray, love.
00:20:42
Lex
um The second ah time around, it was really more about, you know, finding purpose, like finding what I'm here to do. So, and ah
00:20:51
Manni
and
00:20:51
Karen, Steph, & Manni
a
00:20:51
Manni
Yeah. Yeah. I love that.
00:20:54
Karen, Steph, & Manni
And how are you feeling now? You said you're kind of feeling like you're going through something new.
00:20:57
Lex
yeah, yes. third spiritual awakening is what I would call, again, I'm still playing around with the language, but the great remembrance, I think is what I'm, ah and not only that, I think this is my awakening of becoming a leader.
00:21:09
Manni
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
00:21:16
Lex
and what what that means, what that means, and and how to lead, what the next um round of leaders looks like, and my place in that, and that I'm multifaceted and multidimensional, that I don't just have to be a healer or a seer or a visionary.
00:21:16
Steph
and
00:21:19
Karen, Steph, & Manni
Yeah. yeah
00:21:33
Steph
Mm. Mm.
00:21:35
Lex
i can also um be highly creative, and I can be like the world's best gardener, and I can um be a great partner. I can be a great dog mom. And so that's the next awakening of I'm just here to do it all.
00:21:49
Lex
You guys, I want just the fullest, freest life and I'm going to go get it.
00:21:50
Manni
know
00:21:52
Karen, Steph, & Manni
Mm-hmm.
00:21:53
Manni
Yeah. Wow.
00:21:55
Lex
Yeah.
00:21:55
Manni
I love that.
00:21:55
Lex
Yeah.
00:21:56
Manni
It's so powerful and so empowering. And we were just talking about that last week's episode of like, we are in lack of spiritual leadership right now and we are thirsty we need to drink from the well of people who are not going to put their ego into um spirituality.
00:22:03
Steph
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
00:22:04
Lex
okay yeah
00:22:12
Lex
Yeah.
00:22:14
Manni
There's enough ego in the patriarchy and, uh, where we, we are, we are suffocated by it and, uh, it's infiltrating every part and facet of our livelihood.
00:22:18
Lex
Yeah. Yeah.
00:22:26
Manni
And we are looking for something that is like way more like humble and that is going to create more harmony than what we see. So I love to hear that that's like where you are and, and that you are willing uh, to the
00:22:37
Lex
yeah yeah
00:22:41
Manni
two take t take on this um ah in your journey right now because yeah, we're we're looking for people who are willing to do that, you know?
00:22:52
Steph
Thank you.
00:22:53
Manni
Um, you said something in there too, that you were talking about, like, you know, in your first spiritual awakening, you found, um, that there, you found that there are not like, not everyone is here um, provide good, which we talked about a couple of weeks ago too, in our justice episode, which is very interesting.
00:22:53
Lex
No pressure. Yeah.
00:23:11
Lex
okay
00:23:14
Manni
And so we're seeing on Instagram and TikTok, a lot of people, and you were talking about this with reclaiming the word healer of like,
00:23:21
Lex
yeah
00:23:22
Manni
or like like people have weaponized the word healer. We're seeing people that are self-identifying as healers, shamans, guides, witches, media, psychics, sharing their gift with their audiences.
00:23:30
Karen, Steph, & Manni
Mm-hmm.
00:23:34
Manni
um At least that's my algorithm.
00:23:36
Lex
Yeah. yeah Yeah.
00:23:38
Manni
um But like, how can a person who is hoping to gain insight from the spiritual world distinguish a con artist from a real gifted person with abilities?
00:23:43
Steph
Thank
00:23:46
Lex
Yeah.
00:23:47
Karen, Steph, & Manni
a
00:23:47
Lex
I love this question. and I love this question. And first off, I just want to say, i i don't think there's a single problem with calling yourself a healer, a witch, um a reader, anything like that.
00:24:01
Lex
I, my mission is to say, if you're going to call yourself those words, think about that, what that means.
00:24:12
Lex
Like you're a healer.
00:24:13
Manni
Yeah.
00:24:14
Lex
Think just, that is a profound word, a witch.
00:24:16
Karen, Steph, & Manni
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
00:24:18
Lex
Think about what that word, that the connotation of that word holds, the history that that word holds.
Authentic Spiritual Guidance
00:24:24
Lex
So I'm very, very, um,
00:24:29
Lex
very particular with the language that I use when I do this work. um
00:24:34
Steph
Thank you.
00:24:34
Lex
So, yeah, I just wanted to say that because this next question, this next question, I loved it when I read this.
00:24:37
Manni
yeah
00:24:40
Lex
This is, I can't wait to dive into this because this is where I get a little controversial. Okay.
00:24:46
Manni
Yeah.
00:24:46
Lex
So buckle up, guys. um So if we're trying to distinguish from the algorithm, right, who's for us and who's not, um a couple of things, and this is just me personally that I find just based on everything that I've done, the research that I've seen.
00:25:04
Lex
um
00:25:06
Lex
got I got to talk to the divine really quick so I can find the right words to say. This is what I do.
00:25:10
Karen, Steph, & Manni
Mm-hmm.
00:25:10
Lex
I start channeling when I start talking. Like the the guides come in and say, all right, like say the right thing.
00:25:12
Steph
Mm-hmm.
00:25:16
Manni
Yeah.
00:25:16
Lex
um I find that if you are new to tarot or you're looking for answers around astrology, I find that go first to um women of color.
00:25:33
Lex
either black women or, or Latino women, um, or any, any woman of color.
00:25:34
Manni
wow
00:25:38
Lex
And here's why in my, in my, um, journey of reading clients and consulting with people, um, I have found that women of color, um, their ancestors are pissed and they are, and they are, and yeah, and right, right.
00:25:54
Manni
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
00:25:54
Karen, Steph, & Manni
I wonder why.
00:25:57
Karen, Steph, & Manni
i wonder why
00:25:58
Steph
Mm-hmm.
00:26:00
Manni
ah
00:26:01
Lex
And Those ancestors of those baby girls of that line that they have prayed for and fought for, they are going to protect those women at all costs.
00:26:13
Lex
So I find that um black women and women of color who are readers, um they are the most protected. They are the most... um willing to say the truth rather than just validate and and fluff, which is what we need.
00:26:30
Lex
um And I find that um black women and women of color that are in this work, and they understand how the world works. Do you know what I mean?
00:26:41
Lex
Like they, they, yes.
00:26:41
Karen, Steph, & Manni
and
00:26:42
Manni
Yes, I do.
00:26:43
Karen, Steph, & Manni
They've experienced it.
00:26:43
Manni
Hmm.
00:26:44
Lex
Yeah.
00:26:44
Karen, Steph, & Manni
Yeah.
00:26:45
Lex
Like i I say that like I know.
00:26:47
Manni
yeah
00:26:48
Karen, Steph, & Manni
this
00:26:48
Manni
nothing
00:26:49
Lex
And so when you're picking out readers, you want to take into account who they're getting their messages from, right?
00:26:57
Steph
Mm-hmm.
00:26:57
Lex
Because reading reading is a channel.
00:26:57
Steph
Mm-hmm.
00:27:00
Lex
When you're reading cards, when you're reading tarot, when you're reading astrology, you are channeling information from something bigger than us. Now, we in our human vessels, we don't quite understand everything that's out there. We have a good idea, but we don't quite understand.
00:27:17
Lex
And so ancestors, I find, are um big, big, um They can come in and channel and based on whatever your ancestors were working with when they were alive, um even adds to that.
00:27:29
Lex
So not to say that yet, not to say that white people are not doing fantastic jobs reading and, you know, healing and all these things.
00:27:30
Manni
Wow.
00:27:38
Lex
um But white people, let me make sure I'm goingnna say this right. The divine's like, OK, let's say the right thing.
00:27:43
Manni
Yep.
00:27:45
Lex
White people. white White people, we have a lot of unpacking to do, right?
00:27:49
Karen, Steph, & Manni
Mm-hmm.
00:27:49
Manni
yeah
00:27:50
Steph
Mm-hmm.
00:27:50
Lex
and And I'm saying this from experience. i my mom My mom's side is Italian. And when I started doing some of this work, i had um i had to clean up some mob ancestry. have ties to the mob.
00:28:04
Lex
So I had to clean up.
00:28:04
Steph
Mm-hmm.
00:28:04
Manni
wow
00:28:06
Lex
listen. and
00:28:07
Manni
it
00:28:08
Steph
Mm-hmm.
00:28:08
Lex
And so we're always doing this work. And, you know, if you think about the mob, that's some pretty violent ancestry, right? Lies, deception. um And so I have to be very, very, very, very careful um that when I'm reading for someone that I am engulfing us in the divine white light, I am working with God's source, um the light, whatever that word is for you.
00:28:30
Lex
um And that's why protection for me is just so, so important. But to keep answering that question of how do you know if someone's a con artist?
00:28:34
Steph
Okay.
00:28:39
Lex
I just like to stay away from certain language. I like to stay away from anyone that talks about twin flames. I just I just don't.
00:28:47
Manni
Yep.
00:28:47
Karen, Steph, & Manni
What is that?
00:28:47
Lex
yeah
00:28:48
Manni
Red flag.
00:28:48
Karen, Steph, & Manni
Sorry, I don't know what that is.
00:28:49
Lex
Yeah. So the concept of a twin flame, it's similar to a soulmate. um
00:28:56
Karen, Steph, & Manni
Oh.
00:28:57
Lex
Yeah. Yeah.
Debunking Twin Flames
00:28:58
Lex
So the concept.
00:28:58
Manni
yeah da
00:28:59
Lex
I know you're like, Oh, exactly.
00:29:00
Karen, Steph, & Manni
oh
00:29:00
Manni
e yep red flag
00:29:01
Lex
exactly Oh yeah So the idea is ah twin flame, harmonious, harmonious soulmate, karmic soulmate.
00:29:12
Lex
And a harmonious soulmate might be someone that you're married to a life partner, someone that just brings you joy and, and, and is there for you and grows with you.
00:29:23
Lex
A karmic soulmate can be someone, whether it's romantic, platonic, um friend, family, whoever that is in your life for you to learn a lesson. and know.
00:29:33
Manni
Yeah.
00:29:35
Lex
And then the, and then the concept of a twin flame is the idea that when your soul was created, it split into two, it split into a divine masculine and a divine feminine.
00:29:48
Lex
And we reincarnate over and over again. This is not my belief. We reincarnate, yeah, we reincarnate over and over and over again with our twin flame and we meet them and it triggers in us or illuminates in us the most potent of all truths of everything that we are have ever been.
00:29:54
Manni
okay
00:30:13
Lex
but And it's so so you can meet this person and it just like rocks your world. Right.
00:30:17
Karen, Steph, & Manni
Hmm.
00:30:18
Lex
ah Now, on the on the really intense side of this, this can be abusive. It can be narcissistic. It can be very toxic.
00:30:24
Manni
Right. Hmm.
00:30:25
Lex
And so that's why I just stay away from it, because you because it opens the door to us, to some people obsessing over relationships that have ended that were rather toxic or abusive or narcissistic even.
00:30:28
Manni
and
00:30:41
Lex
um And it gives us hope that we should. look to one day reignite reuniting with this twin flame now so a lot of people in the industry have taken advantage of that um if you guys have ever seen what is it the yet yeah yeah it's it's gross it's it's very cultish yeah um
00:30:48
Karen, Steph, & Manni
Uh, yeah. Yeah.
00:30:57
Manni
There's a Netflix about it, right? yeah Yeah. I watched a couple of episodes. Yeah. It's kind of like cultish a little bit.
00:31:05
Karen, Steph, & Manni
What, what is it called? I'm not familiar.
00:31:07
Manni
I think it's called Twin Flame, right?
00:31:09
Karen, Steph, & Manni
Oh,
00:31:10
Lex
Yeah, twin flame um something. Yeah, if you look it up on Netflix, you can find it.
00:31:13
Manni
Yeah. Yeah.
00:31:14
Karen, Steph, & Manni
okay.
00:31:15
Lex
oh But my belief is that with twin flames, I think we can have, I sort of think twin flame and soulmates the same thing, right. And I have a mentor actually, who believes that twin flames, we have a different one in each lifetime.
00:31:31
Lex
so
00:31:31
Steph
Mm-hmm.
00:31:31
Lex
Yeah.
00:31:32
Karen, Steph, & Manni
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
00:31:32
Steph
Mm-hmm.
00:31:32
Lex
Yeah. But it is a concept. the kind The reason that it's so popular now is there's the idea that because the world is shifting and changing so much right now that the millennial generation and the Gen Z generation, um we have reincarnated specifically to reignite with our twin flames so that we can bring about a world of divine union. Yeah.
00:31:57
Lex
Now that goes down a whole other rabbit hole that I don't know if you yeah but i don't know if you guys want to go down, but I know, i know.
00:31:59
Manni
yeah
00:32:00
Steph
more
00:32:00
Manni
if you Well, I kind of, I want to get back to black women.
00:32:03
Lex
Yeah, please. love black women.
00:32:05
Manni
um
00:32:06
Karen, Steph, & Manni
yeah
00:32:07
Lex
Please.
00:32:07
Manni
no
00:32:07
Lex
Okay.
00:32:08
Manni
But um
00:32:09
Lex
will
00:32:09
Manni
but
00:32:09
Karen, Steph, & Manni
Let's talk about how great black women are.
00:32:10
Lex
has
00:32:12
Manni
can we just like, no.
00:32:12
Lex
please yeah
00:32:13
Manni
um But Steph, didn't we have something that we were talking about on Instagram that we saw that you were like, I want to ask Lex this when ah she comes on a pod. Do you remember what it was?
00:32:23
Steph
Oh, um it was something like, it was, oh my gosh, I don't want to mess this up.
00:32:29
Manni
geez.
00:32:31
Steph
It was basically like, there it was a meme. It was like a tweet or something.
00:32:35
Lex
and
00:32:36
Steph
And it was like, if karma... is real then why are white people having such a good time
00:32:45
Lex
Oh, they're not.
00:32:45
Manni
It's hot here.
00:32:45
Karen, Steph, & Manni
I take this
00:32:45
Lex
Let me get real close up to the screen.
00:32:46
Manni
Yeah.
00:32:49
Lex
They're not.
00:32:54
Lex
No, it's perfect. What a great question. ah Can you see how it's... Let me pull up my jacket.
00:32:58
Manni
yeah hot
00:33:01
Karen, Steph, & Manni
um take this off
00:33:01
Lex
ah Listen, all right.
00:33:03
Manni
ah
00:33:04
Lex
They're not. OK, so this is I actually think I saw this.
00:33:06
Manni
yeah
00:33:08
Lex
I actually think I saw this meme.
00:33:10
Steph
um
00:33:10
Lex
um And so I'm so glad that we're talking about this. um White people in the 3D. Now, I also like 3D, 5D, spiritual, physical.
00:33:21
Lex
These are concepts that i kind of work with. um
00:33:23
Manni
Mm.
00:33:24
Lex
on the ah On the physical plane, so physical plane is is us. it's It's all of us doing all the worldly things. It's putting out the podcast. It's going to work. It's you know fighting with the Ohio State government, all this stuff.
00:33:36
Manni
Mm.
00:33:38
Lex
That's the 3D world, right? It looks like white people are having a great time because they have material things, right?
00:33:45
Steph
Mm-hmm.
00:33:46
Lex
they They have, um we have, I shouldn't say they, we, I'm a white girl.
00:33:50
Manni
I feel like I'm also not, I'm also not associating with white people.
00:33:51
Lex
We're stupid.
00:33:51
Steph
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
00:33:54
Karen, Steph, & Manni
no yeah
00:33:54
Steph
fair
00:33:55
Lex
I'm Italian.
00:33:55
Manni
I'm not claiming to be white either.
00:33:56
Karen, Steph, & Manni
Those people.
00:33:59
Lex
So we, i should put that in there. We, um we have all of the advantages, right? We have, um we have the privileges we get, we get the systemic and the societal just ah hand up as in, the in the material world.
00:34:16
Lex
But when we, when we go and we do all the right things, right things that our parents and society and the institutions have told us to do, we go and do all those things. So it looks like because we've done all the right things,
00:34:28
Lex
we should have all that good karma, right? And we do um to a certain extent. But for example, this is a great example. A lot of ah white kids these days, when they get out of college and they go into the workplace, um their soul is just crushed, like right off the bat, right?
00:34:45
Steph
Mm-hmm.
00:34:46
Lex
and And so the karma piece comes in. Now, when, can I say this? We have been told to do all the right things.
00:34:59
Lex
Physically, in the physical world, we're having a great time, right? Because we're getting the accreditation, we're getting the recognition, but spiritually, the soul is crushed because because it goes from college, and that is a very pivotal age, I will say, from college into the real world.
00:35:09
Karen, Steph, & Manni
a
00:35:09
Manni
um
00:35:15
Manni
Yeah.
00:35:17
Lex
um The soul is crushed almost immediately, um and and that usually happens around the Saturn return, which, you know, don't let my ADHD keep going that way, but...
00:35:25
Steph
Mm-hmm.
00:35:26
Lex
ah So white people, as you get older, um we really have to start unlearning a lot of things. And so we don't keep accumulating karma.
00:35:38
Lex
And what I mean by that is we all have a purpose. We all have a purpose here. That's one thing I want everyone to like get, like we all have a purpose towards each other, towards community, towards connection, towards feeding the hungry, towards healing the world, towards justice.
00:35:56
Lex
um And so there comes a certain time around that age of where kids get out of um college and it looks like they're having a good time, but spiritually they're absolutely crushed.
00:36:09
Lex
So I know I kind of went in a circle with that, but yeah.
00:36:10
Manni
yeah No, I love that. You're reminding me, Karen, you brought up a part of White Lotus, um but this is reminding me of part of White Lotus where she's the British girl is sitting next to the American boy who I feel like he's like fresh out of college or whatever.
00:36:12
Steph
Thank you.
00:36:16
Lex
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
00:36:24
Lex
Mm-hmm.
00:36:26
Manni
And he think, you know, if you're watching season three of White Lotus, you know who I'm talking about, the older brother.
00:36:31
Lex
yeah
00:36:32
Manni
and he is like so disheveled after this one experience from the last episode. And he doesn't know how to like sit with that discomfort or sit with the truth of that experience.
00:36:44
Steph
Mm.
00:36:44
Lex
her
00:36:46
Manni
And he looks over to the girl who he's been trying to get with for weeks or for not weeks, however long they're at the White Lotus. And he's like, yeah, three days.
00:36:53
Karen, Steph, & Manni
Three days. Yeah.
00:36:54
Steph
Mm.
00:36:54
Lex
the her
00:36:56
Manni
Seems like weeks to him because he's getting rejected.
00:36:57
Karen, Steph, & Manni
Yeah.
00:36:58
Steph
Mm.
00:36:59
Manni
um But he looks over at her and he's like, why won't you just have sex with me? And she's like, because you're soulless.
00:37:06
Steph
o
00:37:06
Karen, Steph, & Manni
yeah
00:37:06
Manni
And she's like, having sex with you with with with with you would take away more from me.
00:37:07
Lex
Yep.
00:37:11
Lex
Yeah.
00:37:11
Steph
oh
00:37:12
Manni
and
00:37:12
Lex
Absolutely. Yeah.
00:37:13
Manni
um she's like, and I'm trying to do things to fill my soul. not deplete it you know and I just have loved it and she's like into astrology and not into it but like yeah she's very woo that's her that's her persona on the show and um I just when you were talking about that I was thinking about that of like you know we do things you know I think one of the things with purity culture that they get wrong you know it with sex is that of like you know
00:37:18
Steph
And.
00:37:18
Lex
Yeah. yeah
00:37:23
Karen, Steph, & Manni
She's very woo. Yeah.
00:37:25
Lex
Yeah.
00:37:28
Lex
Yeah. Yeah.
00:37:42
Manni
is the soulless act, right? Of like, you, you, you can have sex with whomever you want, right?
00:37:47
Lex
ah hey
00:37:48
Manni
But depending on where you are in your journey, is it going to feed you in a way that feels good?
00:37:51
Lex
ye
00:37:53
Manni
Or is it going to take away, you know, from your autonomy, from your power, from, you know, how you, your energy?
00:37:58
Lex
Yeah. Your energy.
00:38:01
Manni
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:38:01
Lex
Yeah. Yeah.
00:38:03
Manni
um And I was also thinking of, oh, sorry.
00:38:03
Steph
I have a question. Oh, sorry.
00:38:06
Manni
Go ahead, Steph.
00:38:06
Steph
Well, I have a question because um last episode, like last week, when we were talking, Manika brought up the different like planes and you Lex have brought that up.
00:38:17
Lex
no
00:38:18
Steph
um And so, and you were saying, you know, to the question of why are white people having such a good time? And you were saying in the material. um Okay.
00:38:26
Lex
Yeah.
00:38:28
Steph
So, which plane are they not having a good time?
00:38:31
Manni
I love you.
00:38:32
Steph
And like, and like, and like, how did,
00:38:32
Lex
hello All the other ones. yeah All the other ones.
00:38:35
Karen, Steph, & Manni
Steph's like, how do I know white people are suffering?
00:38:37
Lex
then Yeah.
00:38:39
Steph
Or like, what does that look like? You know, because we exist in the material.
00:38:41
Lex
Sure. Yeah.
00:38:44
Steph
And so like, what does it look like if they are not, you know?
00:38:45
Lex
yeah
00:38:48
Steph
And I felt like I was getting kind of a glimpse when Monique was talking about like the soul, solace and that can cause harm.
00:38:48
Lex
Yeah.
00:38:51
Lex
Yeah.
00:38:55
Steph
But if you don't understand that there's other planes to consider, what does that look like?
00:38:56
Lex
Right.
00:38:59
Lex
Right. Oh, what a great what a great question.
00:39:00
Karen, Steph, & Manni
Hmm.
00:39:02
Lex
What a great question. um ah You guys are going to get me going.
00:39:03
Steph
Yeah.
00:39:07
Lex
um So. The way that I interpret this, and this came from a book called The Seven Planes of Existence. Now, depending on who you talk to, there are way more than seven planes, but I find that seven is just a really easy number to remember.
00:39:16
Steph
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
00:39:19
Lex
So there are seven planes of consciousness that when I work with people, this is how I help them understand. um Now, some people say it goes all the way to like 12 or 24. That's way too many. um But yeah, so...
00:39:30
Manni
That's a lot. Yeah. Remember, at least.
00:39:33
Lex
And so here's an this is just for our ego mind to kind of understand consciousness, um because on an intuitive level, there is no hierarchy. Right. It all just exists together.
00:39:45
Steph
Mm hmm.
00:39:46
Lex
um But the first plane is the consciousness of vitamins, atoms, atoms, protons, electrons, neutrons, molecules. um And then the second plane is plants, plant consciousness, trees, bushes, flowers, things like that.
00:40:03
Lex
The third plane is our plane. It is ah humans and animals. And then the fourth plane is the spirits, which would be like our ancestors, the memories of our ancestors, um maybe what people would call ghosts.
00:40:17
Lex
ah The paranormal could kind of live in this plane. It's sort of like the plane of memories, if you can think of it that way. Then the fifth plane I'm going to get it wrong. with you Hang on.
00:40:30
Lex
Oh, the ascended masters. Yes. So the ascended masters is this is like the archangels, the Greek gods and goddesses, the mythic ah gods. This is um Jesus, Mother Mary, Mohammed, Quan Yin, all of that who we think of as that who have ascended.
00:40:51
Lex
ah That's why when you hear 5D, this is the fifth dimension. That's where star seeds, um ah people that, um, energies that walk in love.
00:41:01
Lex
They have figured out that true enlightenment is love, which is what Jesus, mother Mary, the archangels, things like that, uh, teach us.
00:41:05
Steph
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
00:41:09
Lex
The sixth plane is this one's this, this one will bust your brain. The fit, the sixth plane is the plane of universal laws.
00:41:15
Manni
Hmm.
00:41:17
Lex
So this is the consciousness of things like physics, um, um, karma, um, time, um, uh,
00:41:28
Lex
I'm trying to think a couple others, but those are like the big ones. So the laws, universal laws, space, things like that. And then the seventh dimension and then on up is more like that divine God consciousness source. What we would know, think of as like
Seven Planes of Consciousness
00:41:42
Lex
all knowing.
00:41:43
Lex
So to answer your question, ah they are only having a good time in that third ah consciousness.
00:41:43
Steph
and
00:41:50
Manni
Yeah.
00:41:51
Lex
um Because if you think about it, if you even move, if someone if someone with really ucky karma spiritually, if they if they live a life of like fast cars and um big houses, which there's nothing wrong with that. I love fast cars and big houses.
00:42:07
Manni
have
00:42:07
Lex
But its that if that's what you're doing to just live and you know bla blah, blah, blah, and you're not right and you're not giving back and you're not helping use your resources in some way with purpose and authenticity, then you're gonna you know you could potentially
00:42:08
Steph
And
00:42:13
Karen, Steph, & Manni
exclusively
00:42:25
Lex
die, go into the fourth dimension of that spirit world, and you're going to be a really sad Sally. You know, that's where we hear about really sad and mean ghosts and paranormal.
00:42:36
Lex
And so they're not having a good time in the fourth dimension. um And then if they're not having a good time there, they can't even get to the fifth dimension unless they reincarnate and do it all over again.
00:42:44
Steph
um um
00:42:46
Manni
Who wants to do that?
00:42:46
Lex
um set I'm like, this my last one. Yeah.
00:42:51
Manni
and Please send me to a star somewhere.
00:42:52
Lex
Yeah.
00:42:54
Manni
damn it.
00:42:55
Lex
yeah Yeah.
00:42:56
Karen, Steph, & Manni
I ah thank you for explaining these um planes.
00:42:56
Manni
Okay.
00:43:01
Karen, Steph, & Manni
Planes is what you're calling?
00:43:01
Lex
Yeah. I find it, yeah, it helps.
00:43:03
Karen, Steph, & Manni
Because I think like I feel like um I tend to be very cynical and very like science um minded.
00:43:08
Lex
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
00:43:13
Karen, Steph, & Manni
Like I need ah an explanation or i i I believe there is a scientific explanation for everything.
00:43:20
Lex
Mm-hmm.
00:43:21
Karen, Steph, & Manni
And it's really nice to hear the way that, you know, that that's organized. And that includes very close to the top there.
00:43:21
Steph
Mm-hmm.
00:43:28
Steph
Fine. Mm-hmm.
00:43:29
Karen, Steph, & Manni
That includes science, right?
00:43:31
Karen, Steph, & Manni
So like me, I'm like, there is an explanation for have the connectedness of everything.
00:43:31
Steph
Mm-hmm.
00:43:31
Lex
Right, right, right.
00:43:32
Manni
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
00:43:37
Karen, Steph, & Manni
And I don't know.
00:43:38
Lex
Yeah.
00:43:38
Karen, Steph, & Manni
I just that. And the way that you said, was it the fourth plane was like memories kind of?
00:43:44
Lex
Yeah. Yep, yep.
00:43:45
Karen, Steph, & Manni
Like, I like that too. That's something that my brain can, anyways, for those of us that are a little more skeptical, I think that that was like a really helpful explanation to think of kind of the order of everything.
00:43:48
Lex
Yeah. Yeah, it helps. Yeah. I'm sorry.
00:43:56
Lex
I'm so glad.
00:43:56
Steph
um
00:43:56
Lex
I love, I love trying to bring it more science-based with spiritual, because it's, to me, when I, right, when I do this, it's all energy and frequencies to me.
00:44:02
Karen, Steph, & Manni
It's all connected, right?
00:44:07
Lex
So that's how I see it.
00:44:08
Karen, Steph, & Manni
Hmm.
00:44:09
Lex
Yeah.
00:44:09
Manni
Yes. Mm-hmm.
00:44:09
Lex
But I also find that it really helps.
00:44:09
Manni
Ah.
00:44:11
Lex
One of the, just a little side note, I love that it explains that everything is consciousness. And so if we're even mean to the trees, if we're even mean to the animals, they, they feel it, you know, they feel it.
00:44:21
Manni
Yes.
00:44:23
Manni
Oh.
00:44:24
Steph
Oh my gosh, I just watched Wicked.
00:44:24
Lex
So, yeah. So we better be nice to you guys.
00:44:29
Manni
Ah.
00:44:29
Steph
And in yeah and you just said if you're mean to the animals, like, oh
00:44:33
Karen, Steph, & Manni
um Oh, yeah.
00:44:34
Lex
I haven't seen it. I haven't seen it yet.
00:44:35
Steph
oh, no, it's so good.
00:44:36
Manni
oh
00:44:36
Lex
oh
00:44:38
Manni
So good.
00:44:39
Steph
Mm-hmm.
00:44:39
Karen, Steph, & Manni
It's worth it.
00:44:40
Lex
Also, can I just say um there like you just said wicked.
00:44:40
Karen, Steph, & Manni
Oh, yeah.
00:44:40
Manni
Yeah.
00:44:44
Lex
There is so much truth to like ain't no rest for the wicked. um If this is just a little Karen side note, if people are complaining about not getting enough sleep, ah tell them to go get their energy cleared.
00:44:47
Manni
Mm-hmm.
00:44:47
Steph
Yeah.
00:44:47
Manni
Mm-hmm.
00:44:49
Karen, Steph, & Manni
oh
00:44:56
Lex
They might.
00:44:56
Manni
Oh, my gosh.
00:44:57
Steph
Mmm. Mmm. Mmm.
00:44:57
Lex
Yeah.
00:44:58
Karen, Steph, & Manni
Hey, Bob, are you listening right now?
00:44:59
Manni
Yes.
00:44:59
Steph
for
00:45:03
Lex
yeah
00:45:03
Manni
i guys yeah
00:45:07
Lex
Go get some Reiki. Go get some Reiki.
00:45:09
Karen, Steph, & Manni
Oh, I like that.
00:45:10
Manni
I was just listening to something about this and I'm not gonna get it right, but I was just listening to something about this, speaking of like white people and white societies. Like someone was just saying European communities have always had a difficult time with sleep.
00:45:22
Lex
Yeah.
00:45:24
Manni
And it was going through like like all the things that they've done to try to help them since like, you know, so that's that's been documented in the course of history, like to try to help them with sleep.
00:45:24
Steph
yeah
00:45:29
Lex
Yeah.
00:45:34
Manni
And like traditionally like indigenous and black communities and Asian communities don't have issues with sleep.
00:45:38
Lex
and
00:45:40
Manni
It's European ancestral ah ah ah communities that have really struggled with sleep.
00:45:40
Karen, Steph, & Manni
Hmm.
00:45:40
Steph
Oh,
00:45:40
Lex
yeah
00:45:46
Lex
yeah
00:45:46
Manni
It was it was fascinating. it was fascinating.
00:45:48
Karen, Steph, & Manni
Hmm.
00:45:48
Steph
um oh no, be that.
00:45:49
Lex
Yep, it's all connected.
00:45:49
Manni
I'll have to share that. Well, it's all connected.
00:45:51
Lex
It's all connected. Yeah, the...
00:45:54
Manni
And.
00:45:54
Karen, Steph, & Manni
It couldn't be like, it couldn't be like just torturing people through history. You know, that couldn't be it.
00:45:58
Lex
Nah.
00:45:58
Manni
yeah
00:45:59
Lex
where Our ancestors.
00:46:00
Karen, Steph, & Manni
I don't know.
00:46:01
Lex
but
00:46:01
Steph
it
00:46:02
Lex
The sins of our fathers, right? The sins of our fathers.
00:46:03
Manni
ah Well, that's what I was going to say.
00:46:05
Lex
Mm-hmm.
00:46:06
Manni
Another thing that's like circling around TikTok, and I think it's made its way to Instagram is this white guy that's like, just so you know, spirits cannot hurt you.
00:46:17
Manni
If they could, a lot of white people would be dead by now.
00:46:20
Lex
yeah
00:46:21
Manni
love it.
00:46:21
Steph
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
00:46:22
Lex
ah yeah
00:46:22
Steph
Mm-hmm.
00:46:24
Lex
they can just and They can just make you feel real bad.
00:46:24
Karen, Steph, & Manni
Damn.
00:46:24
Manni
ah you love it
00:46:26
Lex
Yeah. Yeah.
00:46:27
Manni
yeah
00:46:27
Steph
yeah
00:46:29
Manni
But it goes to, I think, how you were talking about, you know, the the ancestral ties and, ah you know, what I experience in my spiritual practice and contemplative and when I channel in my ancestors, you know, it's like, that's not what they want to have happen, though.
00:46:41
Lex
yeah
00:46:43
Steph
ah
00:46:43
Manni
That's not what they, they don't want the, they don't, they don't want the reverse, you know, um, that's not the messages that I received from my spiritual practice.
00:46:44
Lex
Right. Right.
00:46:47
Lex
Right.
00:46:52
Manni
It's very loving.
00:46:52
Lex
Mm-hmm.
00:46:52
Steph
Okay.
00:46:53
Manni
It's very community oriented.
00:46:54
Lex
Mm-hmm. Yeah.
00:46:55
Manni
It's very servant oriented. Um,
00:46:57
Lex
Yep.
00:46:58
Manni
And I'm thinking about, you know, I was sharing with Karen and Steph on our back and forth on Instagram when we send each other gifts and reels and stuff that like Muhammad Ali was like, is one of my favorite i civil rights icons of all time.
00:47:10
Lex
Mm-hmm.
00:47:13
Manni
And he has this quote that says service is the rent we pay for our room here on earth. And um to I just, you know,
00:47:19
Lex
Mm-hmm. So true. It's so true. Yeah. And it's so true. Like we I just like I want to go like back to black people for a second.
00:47:29
Manni
Sure.
00:47:29
Lex
um
00:47:29
Manni
and
00:47:30
Lex
the The fact that you I know you're like, I just gush over you. ugly
00:47:35
Steph
Mm.
00:47:36
Lex
That is that other big thing, too, why white people are so spiritually disconnected right now. It's because we have lost our culture. but If we ever had it to begin with.
00:47:43
Karen, Steph, & Manni
Mm-hmm.
00:47:45
Steph
and
00:47:45
Manni
Hmm.
00:47:45
Lex
Well, we did. We did. I shouldn't say that. um You know, Europe, there was a lot of European cultures, Italian, um Celtic, Norse, ah paganism, that kind of thing.
00:47:53
Karen, Steph, & Manni
who
00:47:55
Lex
But black people and people of color, they never they haven't lost their culture or their community. And those two things are massive, massive. in ah being connected to something bigger than yourself.
00:48:08
Lex
And so when we are so in our ego and we're so I, I, I, i capitalism, capitalism, capitalism, it's a zero, it's a zero sum game.
00:48:08
Steph
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
00:48:16
Manni
Yep.
00:48:19
Lex
We are just thinking about ourselves and we can't be of service that way. We can't be with some connected to something bigger than us.
00:48:25
Manni
Right.
00:48:27
Lex
And I find that community and culture is that connecting factor.
00:48:27
Karen, Steph, & Manni
with me
00:48:31
Manni
Yeah. All right. Well, we have i have one more question before we wrap up for today. um And it would be, what do you believe is the most important message from the spirit world or higher consciousness that people need to hear right now?
Divine Messages: Action over Prayer
00:48:45
Steph
Hmm.
00:48:47
Karen, Steph, & Manni
That is a loaded question.
00:48:47
Lex
They're talking to me. Yeah, they're talking to me right now. They're like, which one can come in right now and talk to us?
00:48:53
Steph
Hmm.
00:48:53
Lex
oh I would say. Sorry, I'm just channeling really quick. All right. We're just going you know what? Here we go. ah Direct quote. God is pissed.
00:49:05
Steph
Hmm.
00:49:05
Manni
Whoa.
00:49:05
Lex
yeah um Also, too. um I heard a great, I know, right? I heard a great quote the other day. it said, the time that we're going into now, ah God is going to require more than prayers.
00:49:20
Lex
And so of us, yeah, right?
00:49:23
Karen, Steph, & Manni
Gosh.
00:49:24
Lex
And so I think right now, spiritually speaking, what needs to be done right now is even if you're a good person, even if you believe in all the right things, even if you want there to be good in the world,
00:49:38
Lex
Even if you go to church every Sunday, whatever it is, if you are a good person right now, spirit is saying. you better get the F up. Like you have to get up right now.
00:49:48
Karen, Steph, & Manni
Mm-hmm.
00:49:49
Karen, Steph, & Manni
Do more.
00:49:49
Lex
You can't, yeah, you can't.
00:49:50
Lex
I think silence is almost just as evil as malicious, like malicious intent.
00:49:53
Steph
Mm-hmm.
00:49:56
Lex
um And that's kind of a direct channel right now too, especially where we're going.
00:49:56
Manni
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
00:49:56
Karen, Steph, & Manni
Mm-hmm.
00:50:00
Lex
um We're going into a season of, I was talking about before we jumped on Neptune and Aries. This is a time of the warrior of boldness, of courageous acts, especially towards women or especially towards women and children, I should say.
00:50:15
Lex
so Yeah, I think that's enough said.
00:50:17
Manni
Yes. Unless you're unless you're black. Sit your black ass down.
00:50:21
Lex
yeah
00:50:23
Steph
Yeah.
00:50:23
Lex
Yes, yeah, yeah. yeah
00:50:25
Steph
Yeah.
00:50:26
Lex
Oh, and I just also I have to say, please do.
00:50:28
Manni
We're resting. We're resting.
00:50:29
Steph
yeah Yeah.
00:50:30
Manni
ah okay
00:50:30
Lex
You deserve it. You deserve it.
00:50:32
Steph
Mm-hmm.
00:50:33
Lex
Also, here's something that I've here's something I've been channeling to just as we had the Black Lives Matter movement and Me Too movement in like 2017, 2018.
00:50:33
Steph
Great. Yeah.
00:50:44
Lex
I'm just going to put this out there because this is a big message I've been receiving. um Men are about to have the same collective awakening. So ladies.
00:50:54
Karen, Steph, & Manni
Oh.
00:50:54
Manni
Whoa.
00:50:54
Lex
Yeah. yeah Ladies out there, if you're a good men, seem like they're going through it right now.
00:51:01
Manni
Hmm.
00:51:02
Lex
Don't get in their way. Inspire them. Don't save them. Okay. Because they...
00:51:07
Karen, Steph, & Manni
Hmm.
00:51:08
Manni
Ooh.
00:51:09
Karen, Steph, & Manni
I like that.
00:51:10
Lex
Mic drop.
00:51:10
Manni
One more time for the people in the back, Lex.
00:51:12
Lex
i think
00:51:12
Manni
Please say that.
00:51:13
Lex
and
00:51:13
Manni
Repeat. Repeat.
00:51:14
Lex
Was that a mic drop? Was that a mic drop?
00:51:16
Manni
Yes, it really was.
00:51:17
Karen, Steph, & Manni
but
00:51:17
Manni
Those were some bars.
00:51:17
Steph
Mm-hmm.
00:51:19
Lex
Yes. So if your men are going through it right now and if they are good men, hardworking men,
00:51:19
Karen, Steph, & Manni
Inspire them, don't save them. Hmm.
00:51:26
Lex
They are about to have the same awakening that we had couple of years ago. Inspire them. Do not get in their way. Let them.
00:51:33
Manni
Wow. Same.
00:51:33
Steph
Mm-hmm.
00:51:34
Lex
They have to figure this ish out on their own, just like we did.
00:51:36
Steph
Mm-hmm.
00:51:37
Lex
oh
00:51:37
Steph
Mm.
00:51:38
Lex
Inspire them. Love them. Don't let that take your peace or your energy. um And just don't get in their way. Let it happen. Because men need that camaraderie again.
00:51:49
Steph
Mm-hmm.
00:51:51
Lex
They need that brotherhood. And a lot of a lot of war wounds of their fathers and grandfathers are healing. So that's astrology based, by the way.
00:51:57
Karen, Steph, & Manni
and
00:51:58
Steph
Mm-hmm.
00:51:59
Karen, Steph, & Manni
yeah ah That gives me a little bit of hope because
00:52:02
Manni
same
00:52:03
Steph
Mm-hmm.
00:52:03
Lex
Yeah.
00:52:04
Steph
so
00:52:04
Lex
Yeah.
00:52:05
Karen, Steph, & Manni
we do have the patriarchy and they do need to be on board and driving change if things are really going to progress.
00:52:07
Lex
Yeah.
00:52:12
Lex
Right. Right.
00:52:14
Steph
Though I have quite a question about that.
00:52:14
Lex
Yeah.
00:52:16
Steph
So when you're saying um that men or will have an awakening in that, because I feel like the Black Lives Matter movement and the Me Too movement was, um you know, a force in looking for righting wrongs done to the Black community and to women.
00:52:18
Lex
but
00:52:23
Lex
I
00:52:33
Lex
get you.
00:52:38
Steph
So, but that's not what you're saying. i mean, because I'm just like, what wrongs
00:52:45
Steph
do men need righted right now?
00:52:47
Karen, Steph, & Manni
Maybe it's more writing.
00:52:48
Lex
right
00:52:48
Manni
Oh.
00:52:49
Steph
um
00:52:50
Karen, Steph, & Manni
Maybe it's more about them.
00:52:51
Steph
And um what kind of awakening do they need?
00:52:52
Lex
ah getcha Yeah.
00:52:56
Steph
Or is it a real a realization that there's change that needs to be made?
00:52:56
Lex
Right. Sure. Yeah.
00:52:56
Karen, Steph, & Manni
Awakening to their. yeah
00:53:00
Steph
Because I heard Karen say there, hope, and i was like, okay, so you mean, I need clarification.
00:53:00
Karen, Steph, & Manni
There.
00:53:01
Lex
and
00:53:05
Steph
You have to.
00:53:06
Karen, Steph, & Manni
They're going to fix their shit.
00:53:08
Lex
They better, yeah.
00:53:09
Karen, Steph, & Manni
They better.
00:53:09
Lex
I will say this. I'll say this. More so white men. I actually see black men already, this happening with a lot of black men already.
00:53:16
Steph
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
00:53:17
Lex
um I'm not so much in the ah indigenous or Latino cultures, but i do I have seen this already happening with black men. White men, and I should say probably this is more so blue collar and white collar working men.
00:53:32
Lex
who they are finally getting to a place where they're working hard and just have nothing to show for it. Whereas maybe their fathers or their grandfathers, it was different.
00:53:44
Lex
And so men learn different than women, right? God bless them.
00:53:49
Steph
Mm-hmm.
00:53:50
Lex
and Men learn different than and women.
00:53:50
Karen, Steph, & Manni
Hmm.
00:53:53
Lex
And again, it kind of goes back to that cultural and camaraderie thing of men have lost their camaraderie. They have lost their brotherhood and they're lonely. Like we've seen that there's an epidemic among lonely men, not to make this all about men, um but you know, society is half of them, right?
00:54:04
Steph
Mm-hmm.
00:54:04
Manni
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
00:54:04
Karen, Steph, & Manni
a
00:54:07
Steph
Mm-hmm.
00:54:10
Lex
So, And I'll say this, if your man wants to go golfing, let him go golfing. let him go Let him go golfing. Let him find that brotherhood again. um Because that that loneliness, um that is a soul crusher.
00:54:20
Steph
Mm-hmm.
00:54:24
Lex
That is accumulating karma.
00:54:25
Karen, Steph, & Manni
Hmm.
00:54:26
Lex
That depression, that lowness, that not feeling like men belong.
00:54:27
Steph
Mm-hmm.
00:54:32
Lex
And again, not to make it all about men, um but that is the soul crusher of spirituality right now.
00:54:36
Steph
Mm-hmm.
00:54:37
Lex
And us women, we're really holding our men up right now, but we're tired.
00:54:41
Steph
Okay.
00:54:42
Lex
We're tired.
00:54:42
Steph
Mm-hmm.
00:54:43
Manni
Yes, we are.
00:54:44
Lex
wait are you
00:54:44
Steph
you
00:54:45
Lex
We're tired and we're ready to receive. Yeah. Sorry. Does that help?
00:54:47
Manni
Yeah.
00:54:49
Steph
Yes, it does help.
00:54:49
Manni
I think too, for me, what I'm hearing the second part of that is it might look like, and in this all goes back to what you were saying in the beginning of like um how we are seers and visionaries generally as women, like it might look like destruction to us.
00:54:49
Lex
Yeah. Good.
00:55:05
Lex
Yeah, yeah.
00:55:06
Manni
right, as women, it could very well be what you are afraid of, Steph. It could very well be that. They might need to destroy some shit in order for it to eventually come back as what we want it to be.
00:55:13
Steph
Mm-hmm.
00:55:19
Steph
Mm-hmm.
00:55:19
Karen, Steph, & Manni
be rebuilt.
00:55:20
Lex
Yeah.
00:55:22
Manni
But like, that is not our right now, i hear what I hear and what like I hear from Lex and what I hear from like my spiritual practice is like, I'm, I'm, I'm, that's not
00:55:22
Lex
Right. All
00:55:34
Manni
anything that I'm going to jump into right now.
00:55:35
Lex
right. Right, right, right.
00:55:36
Manni
You know, like if it needs to be, and this goes back to the spiritual awakening, sometimes you have to break down before you break through, right?
00:55:36
Karen, Steph, & Manni
Mm. Mm.
00:55:44
Steph
ah he
00:55:44
Manni
And sometimes you have to destroy some shit and sometimes it gets ugly and sometimes it gets nasty before you're able to get to the other side of that.
00:55:44
Lex
Yep.
00:55:49
Steph
Yeah,
00:55:52
Manni
And walk you have to walk through it in order for it to look, to get to the beauty of it.
00:55:52
Steph
yeah.
00:55:55
Lex
Yeah. Yeah.
00:55:57
Manni
And I have to be, and this goes back to what we were saying about like death, you know, like I have to be unafraid of like dying in the process of that.
00:56:05
Steph
and
00:56:05
Manni
Right.
00:56:06
Lex
yeah
00:56:06
Manni
And, and, and, and I have to reach a place in my own personal, like solace with something that feels good and comfortable to me or my community of women that like, fine, I'm fine with that.
00:56:06
Lex
Yeah.
00:56:16
Manni
Like, like I'm fine.
00:56:16
Steph
yeah yeah
00:56:17
Lex
Yeah.
00:56:18
Manni
Like I honestly had the thought the other day that like, if they start like doing some weird shit and like enslaving people and whatever, fucking take me.
00:56:23
Lex
Yeah.
00:56:26
Manni
like
00:56:26
Steph
Mm-hmm.
00:56:26
Lex
we yeah
00:56:27
Manni
I'm oh like, good I'm done.
00:56:28
Steph
Mm-hmm.
00:56:29
Lex
and
00:56:29
Steph
Yeah.
00:56:29
Manni
Like, I don't give a fuck.
00:56:29
Lex
yeah
00:56:30
Steph
Yeah.
00:56:30
Manni
You know what I mean? Like, if that's what you are going to do, that's what you're going to do.
00:56:32
Steph
Mm-hmm.
00:56:34
Manni
I'm done. I'm not afraid of dying. I'm not, but I'm not going to live like that, you know?
00:56:37
Karen, Steph, & Manni
and
00:56:38
Steph
Mm-hmm.
00:56:39
Lex
Right, right, right.
00:56:39
Manni
um
00:56:40
Steph
Mm-hmm.
00:56:40
Manni
And so like the, the non-interference is like such an important lesson. and And you practice the radical way that we practice that is in every facet of our life.
00:56:45
Steph
Oh, yeah.
00:56:45
Lex
Mm-hmm.
00:56:50
Manni
I'm not um interfering and rescuing people and saving people.
00:56:52
Lex
Mm-hmm. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:56:53
Manni
And the minor moments.
00:56:54
Karen, Steph, & Manni
yeah
00:56:54
Steph
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
00:56:56
Manni
of interaction.
00:56:57
Steph
Mm-hmm.
00:56:57
Lex
Yep, yep.
00:56:58
Manni
That's what I'm getting.
00:56:59
Lex
Oh, bars.
00:57:00
Karen, Steph, & Manni
I don't, uh, I'm going to kind of jump to confessionals just cause I know we're at time, but Manny, like what that just triggered for me is like the evolution over my life of, okay, bear with me for just a second.
00:57:00
Lex
Bars, yeah.
00:57:05
Lex
Yeah.
00:57:13
Karen, Steph, & Manni
But like, um, um i would watch movies or read books hunger games is a good example and i would i would be like if this were real life i would be katniss like that was my brain you know like i am i'm i the bitch however as i've gotten older i'm like no i'd just be dead
00:57:21
Lex
Mm-hmm.
00:57:27
Lex
Mm-hmm.
00:57:29
Manni
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, of course. Yeah. Yeah.
00:57:33
Lex
hit here
00:57:34
Manni
Right. Right.
00:57:37
Manni
Yeah.
00:57:38
Lex
What I even play, yeah.
00:57:38
Manni
right
00:57:39
Karen, Steph, & Manni
I wouldn't even be part of the story.
00:57:40
Lex
Yeah.
00:57:40
Manni
but and
00:57:41
Lex
Yeah.
00:57:41
Karen, Steph, & Manni
I wouldn't be like, i it would I'm not there at all.
00:57:42
Lex
Yeah.
00:57:44
Karen, Steph, & Manni
Like i would have just I would have been deceased years before we got to Katniss Everdeen.
00:57:44
Manni
right
00:57:44
Steph
Mm-hmm.
00:57:48
Lex
see
00:57:48
Manni
yeah
00:57:49
Karen, Steph, & Manni
And like, and like, there's something little, that's what you're, what you were describing there, Manny, just made me think of is like, that's actually way more comforting to me.
00:57:49
Steph
Mm-hmm.
00:57:59
Manni
Yes, it's more freeing.
00:57:59
Karen, Steph, & Manni
Cause like suffering through that.
00:57:59
Lex
yeah
00:57:59
Steph
Mm-hmm.
00:58:01
Lex
the
00:58:01
Manni
and somebody
00:58:01
Steph
here
00:58:02
Karen, Steph, & Manni
Yeah, exactly.
00:58:02
Lex
and the
00:58:03
Karen, Steph, & Manni
I'm like, Oh, I'm already gone. I don't got to deal with
00:58:05
Manni
Yes, I'm on my way to that like sixth plane of quantum physics.
00:58:06
Lex
yeah
00:58:08
Karen, Steph, & Manni
Yeah.
00:58:09
Lex
I'm going to go there.
00:58:09
Manni
That's where I'm heading. See you later, bitches.
00:58:11
Lex
Take the elevator. Take the elevator.
00:58:12
Manni
ah Right?
00:58:13
Karen, Steph, & Manni
Yeah.
00:58:13
Steph
Yep.
00:58:14
Manni
Like that's where I think it's so comforting knowing about those planes, right? Of like, we don't have to be scared of staying in the material world because beyond that, right?
00:58:21
Lex
Right.
00:58:24
Manni
It's some other like cool shit.
00:58:24
Steph
Mm-hmm.
00:58:25
Lex
Yeah, that's.
00:58:27
Steph
Mm-hmm.
00:58:28
Lex
It is. And that's actually a question i get asked a lot. Like people are very, very um curious about this. I like a lot of people say, Lex, what happens when you die? And I'm like, it just, keeps it just keeps going.
00:58:39
Lex
Like it just keeps going.
00:58:39
Manni
Right.
00:58:39
Steph
Mm-hmm.
00:58:41
Lex
And it's, and I've channeled people that have passed over, not calling myself a medium by any means, but um almost every person I have channeled that has crossed over that wants to bring comfort comfort to their loved ones.
00:58:54
Lex
There's nothing but peace. Like, it's just so beautiful.
00:58:56
Karen, Steph, & Manni
Yeah.
00:58:57
Lex
It's so beautiful.
00:58:57
Steph
and Yeah.
00:58:58
Lex
So just for all your listeners, you know, not to get a little morbid, but.
00:58:59
Manni
Yes.
00:59:01
Karen, Steph, & Manni
That's
00:59:02
Manni
No, but it is. Yes, I yes, I would encourage going to see a medium at some point in your life, at at least one that brings in love and light.
00:59:04
Lex
you know
00:59:05
Karen, Steph, & Manni
comforting.
00:59:08
Lex
Yeah. Yeah.
00:59:09
Steph
it.
00:59:10
Manni
All right. So um we do something which we've rebranded on this podcast when we have guests on.
00:59:11
Steph
It was,
00:59:15
Steph
no.
00:59:19
Manni
It used to be called.
00:59:21
Karen, Steph, & Manni
We never branded.
00:59:22
Steph
we never called it it was no
00:59:26
Karen, Steph, & Manni
It was never. It was never.
00:59:28
Steph
Don't even say it.
00:59:29
Karen, Steph, & Manni
Keep it snappy.
00:59:31
Manni
on the On the fifth, in the fifth dimension, it was called Keep It Snappy.
00:59:31
Lex
Oh, boy.
00:59:36
Karen, Steph, & Manni
No.
00:59:36
Lex
All
00:59:37
Karen, Steph, & Manni
I refuse to accept it.
00:59:38
Steph
We never accepted that.
00:59:40
Karen, Steph, & Manni
No.
00:59:40
Steph
We never...
00:59:40
Lex
right.
00:59:40
Manni
But here on this material plane, we're calling it the carrot interrogation.
00:59:45
Lex
Oh, okay.
00:59:45
Steph
if
00:59:45
Karen, Steph, & Manni
Oh.
00:59:45
Manni
So you you have – so what we've been doing is like you've been thinking about your answers and you've been, you know, channeling.
00:59:46
Lex
oh Okay.
00:59:55
Manni
We need you to get – spirit guides, go the fuck away. No, I'm just kidding. I would never talk to you like that.
00:59:58
Steph
Ooh.
00:59:58
Lex
yeah
00:59:59
Manni
But like – but like let – this is just like off the top of your head, okay?
00:59:59
Steph
and and
00:59:59
Lex
like who's talking to me okay all right oh boy adhd go away okay
01:00:05
Manni
You've got to answer these questions off the top of your head. Okay. So – and – and and Keep it snappy. ah Okay. um Yeah. Yes.
01:00:16
Manni
Goodbye. All right. So if you could hang with one witch for a day, who would it be?
01:00:24
Lex
stevie nicks
01:00:25
Manni
oh o
01:00:26
Steph
who
01:00:26
Karen, Steph, & Manni
Oh, good answer.
01:00:28
Manni
a
01:00:28
Lex
I was also going to say, i was going to say Princess Diana, but she's not really, she's more of an astrologer than a witch.
01:00:28
Karen, Steph, & Manni
Yes.
01:00:32
Karen, Steph, & Manni
Oh.
01:00:34
Steph
Mmm.
01:00:35
Lex
I know.
01:00:36
Manni
We don't have time for this. Okay. um
01:00:37
Steph
Oh my god.
01:00:38
Manni
ah But you got to explain that answer later.
01:00:40
Karen, Steph, & Manni
Manny, keep it snappy, girl.
01:00:40
Manni
Okay.
01:00:40
Steph
ah
01:00:41
Manni
Where were you on January 6th, 2021? Oh,
01:00:46
Steph
it
01:00:47
Lex
twenty Was it that long ago? my gosh.
01:00:50
Karen, Steph, & Manni
No.
01:00:50
Lex
I was actually taking a lovely walk, I remember.
01:00:54
Manni
oh
01:00:54
Lex
And I was like, look at these crazy MFers on the Capitol.
01:00:57
Manni
yeah
01:00:58
Lex
I was like, I'm going to continue my walk. Okay.
01:01:03
Manni
um In a parallel world, you're living your life as a
01:01:10
Lex
Flower farmer.
01:01:12
Manni
flower farmer. ah
01:01:15
Lex
know.
01:01:15
Manni
That is so delightful.
01:01:16
Lex
I know that's what I want to do.
01:01:16
Manni
Oh
01:01:18
Lex
That's what I want to be when I'm an old lady.
01:01:20
Manni
oh my God, I can totally see that for you, Lex.
01:01:22
Steph
Mm-hmm.
01:01:23
Manni
We're manifesting.
01:01:23
Lex
ah
01:01:23
Steph
Mm-hmm.
01:01:24
Lex
manifest it.
01:01:26
Manni
um Your favorite sign to vibe with is
01:01:30
Lex
Sign? Like an actual sign?
01:01:33
Manni
ah Astrology sign. Yeah.
01:01:35
Lex
Oh, oh, okay. I was like a stop sign or what?
01:01:38
Manni
yeah ah
01:01:39
Karen, Steph, & Manni
but
01:01:40
Lex
My favorite to vibe with an Aries or a Libra. I will say. Yeah.
01:01:47
Manni
That's none of us. Right, ladies.
01:01:48
Steph
it's none of us i'm a virgo
01:01:49
Lex
ah yeah
01:01:50
Karen, Steph, & Manni
Nope.
01:01:50
Lex
love you guys though too.
01:01:50
Manni
So. but yeah
01:01:51
Lex
I like Aquarius too. Aquarius are the aliens. I love Aquarius.
01:01:58
Manni
Darn, still not in there. Okay.
01:01:59
Lex
but it but What are you guys?
01:01:59
Manni
um Finish this, I'm a Leo.
01:02:03
Lex
Remind me what you are.
01:02:04
Steph
um a virgo
01:02:06
Lex
Virgo.
01:02:07
Karen, Steph, & Manni
Pisces.
01:02:08
Lex
Pisces. I love my Pisces. I love Virgos. I love you guys.
01:02:11
Steph
and hi
01:02:11
Karen, Steph, & Manni
Hmm.
01:02:12
Lex
And Leo, right?
01:02:14
Manni
Yes. Yes.
01:02:15
Lex
I love Leo.
01:02:15
Manni
Lex has done my birth chart before. So that's also a part of our...
01:02:18
Steph
and
01:02:19
Lex
Love my Leos.
01:02:20
Manni
Thank you. Thank you for saying that because you know, Leos, we really need that.
01:02:24
Steph
I really loved that.
01:02:24
Lex
the
01:02:25
Karen, Steph, & Manni
Yeah, I'm like, moving on.
01:02:25
Lex
in
01:02:28
Lex
The only sign that I don't S around with is cancer men.
01:02:28
Manni
yeah
01:02:32
Lex
So we'll just put that off.
01:02:32
Manni
Oh, okay.
01:02:32
Karen, Steph, & Manni
h
01:02:32
Lex
in
01:02:33
Manni
Cancer men. Good. Cause you know, Brie, Brie is a cancer shout out to Brie.
01:02:34
Lex
Yep. I know. Wise.
01:02:36
Manni
Forgot to shout Brie out this episode. So here it is.
01:02:38
Karen, Steph, & Manni
ah but Brie. Hey, girl.
01:02:39
Steph
you see
01:02:41
Karen, Steph, & Manni
Still to you.
01:02:42
Manni
Okay. Finish this sentence. Dead people are.
01:02:47
Lex
wise
01:02:50
Manni
Great.
01:02:51
Karen, Steph, & Manni
I like that.
01:02:51
Steph
ah really well
01:02:51
Lex
we
01:02:52
Manni
All right. Two more questions here. um Who's your favorite host on the You Can Call Me Karen pod? And why is it me?
01:03:02
Lex
oh man don't give me a cute late and like any karma here
01:03:07
Karen, Steph, & Manni
Manny, you're evil.
01:03:08
Lex
oh i love all of you guys
01:03:09
Steph
you
01:03:10
Karen, Steph, & Manni
Next question. Next question.
01:03:12
Manni
ah Yes. Last question.
01:03:13
Karen, Steph, & Manni
It's clearly me. Next question.
01:03:14
Manni
um yeah Okay. what ah Last question is, where can our listeners find you if they want to see more information about what it is that you do?
01:03:23
Lex
Oh, that's an easy one. Okay. www.spiritualu.org. ah Instagram, Lex M. Smith, super simple. um And I'm trying to think what else?
01:03:37
Lex
YouTube. YouTube is just spiritual you. So, yeah.
01:03:40
Manni
Okay. Wonderful.
01:03:41
Karen, Steph, & Manni
Spiritual and the letter U, right?
01:03:43
Lex
And the letter U. Yes.
01:03:44
Karen, Steph, & Manni
Yeah.
01:03:44
Manni
Like university?
01:03:45
Lex
Yes.
01:03:45
Karen, Steph, & Manni
And we will link
01:03:45
Manni
Yes.
Rebranding and Gratitude
01:03:46
Karen, Steph, & Manni
all of this in the show notes as well so that everyone has access.
01:03:46
Lex
Mm-hmm.
01:03:49
Lex
Yes, it's a good time over there. And I will say this, I'm going through a rebrand right now.
01:03:52
Karen, Steph, & Manni
Hmm.
01:03:54
Lex
I'm cleaning some ish up for this new timeline that we're all on. So bear with me. Yes.
01:03:59
Manni
all Of course, we'll invite in so much grace.
01:04:00
Karen, Steph, & Manni
Hmm.
01:04:00
Lex
it's
01:04:01
Steph
Mm-hmm.
01:04:01
Manni
You've been such a wonderful guest and we are so thankful for this conversation.
Engagement and Season Finale
01:04:06
Manni
Thank you guys for listening to You Can Call Me Karen. Please like, subscribe, follow us on Instagram.
01:04:14
Manni
um Tell us in your comments who's your favorite host so that we can really settle this question.
01:04:19
Steph
Mm-hmm.
01:04:19
Manni
And don't forget to leave us a comment about your Karen for the week on Wednesday or Thursday when we post that on Instagram. And we'll see you. ah This is the last episode for a while.
01:04:30
Karen, Steph, & Manni
Next season.
01:04:32
Manni
We'll see you next season.
01:04:32
Lex
Oh. Beautiful.
01:04:32
Karen, Steph, & Manni
and
01:04:34
Manni
We're wrapping up this season too, and we'll be back, I think in May or June.
01:04:34
Steph
Hey, I think we
01:04:37
Manni
So um yeah, it's been real. We love you.
01:04:41
Karen, Steph, & Manni
Thanks, Garens.
01:04:42
Steph
think you can.
01:04:42
Manni
Thanks, Karen.
01:05:01
Lex
Thank you.