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S2E15: The "B" Sue
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Series spoilers abound! Today we’re discussing Season 2, Episode 15 “Black and Tan: A Crime of Fashion” and it’s GUS’ BIRTHDAY! Shawn has set up a whole night of Gus celebration when we find ourselves undercover as models at a club. But, as nothing can ever go as planned, someone ends up dying on stage! In order to find out more, the boys entrench themselves in model culture. We’re talking fashion, family, flirting, funny names, boiling lobsters and more! So head to your favorite arcade and join Kylie and Skyler on this next episode of Phsysics 101!
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Introduction & Episode Overview
00:00:21
Speaker
Hi, everyone, and welcome to Psy6101, where we discuss everything about the world of psych and the antics of Sean and Gus in sunny Santa Barbara. I'm Skylar, and this is my partner, Mr. Lipspanski.
00:00:32
Speaker
And today we will be talking about season two, episode 15 of the famed TV show, Psych.
Wordplay & Theme Exploration
00:00:38
Speaker
Black and tan, a crime of fashion. It's so good.
00:00:42
Speaker
A crime of fashion, yes, which I love. Oh gosh. Because it also, it harkens to that, you know, crime of passion trope that we always hear about. That is just clicking to me right now. As you were saying I'm like, oh, a crime of passion.
00:00:55
Speaker
Yeah, yeah, yeah. I always just thought it was like silliness, drama, crime of fashion. yeah Oh my God, that's so funny. But it kind of makes sense, too, for what happens in this episode. like You could maybe assume it was a crime of passion in some way, depending on how you look at the idea of passion.
00:01:12
Speaker
Yeah. Well, actually, like these are sort of these are extremely premeditated. Took a lot of effort, so in that i mean but they are coming from romantic...
00:01:25
Speaker
Yes, right. So that's kind of what depends. Yeah. It is a scenario in which you might expect a crime of fashion, but these are the very premeditated yeah opposite of crime of
Baking Adventures Inspired by the Episode
00:01:37
Speaker
fashion. Correct. crime of Then we've got the black and tan part, which...
00:01:42
Speaker
in honor of this episode we have not black and white cookies but black and tan cookies yes um which Kylie made from scratch because she's an amazing baker and I made a bootleg version and however so did you you made sugar cookies and frost them or did you buy sugar cookies I bought sugar cookies and then I frosted them very nice very nice Which, of course, one cannot find tan frosting, so I just bought vanilla and chocolate and then just mixed up with it to the vanilla.
00:02:19
Speaker
Yeah, I highly recommend the recipe that I used. Hold on, let find um
00:02:28
Speaker
it. They were vegan. ah yeah, we were kind of talking about it a little before this. and um Yeah, there were some really complicated ones like...
00:02:39
Speaker
I mean, and not complicated, but just like not um ingredients that I like tend to use and have on hand and want to deal with like aquafaba. Sure. I don't use that a lot. If I'm going to, it's like, that'd be a big to do.
00:02:53
Speaker
Yeah. And then coconut, Cream and coconut oil I don't really like to use a lot because everything tastes like coconut. was going to say, it's very overpowering. yeah, yeah. It really is. And like, I throw it in everything. And I'm like, you can't, you've call it a coconut cookie if you're going to do that. Agreed.
00:03:11
Speaker
um Like coconut milk ice cream. Mm-hmm. if it has coconut as a base i'm like i don't want unless you call it coconut chocolate or something and then i'm like i know what i'm getting right you want to come into it knowing that there's going to be a coconut flavor i tried new vegan ice cream the other week and i'm going to send you a picture of it because it was so delicious will send it to you okay i was like kylie would love this Yeah, I want
Food & Nostalgia Discussions
00:03:39
Speaker
to know.
00:03:39
Speaker
Was it like from the store? place and got it from um Whole Foods. it was just like in a little tub. Okay, let me know. And they had tons of flavors and they had vegan ones and regular ones.
00:03:50
Speaker
Okay. So fun for the whole family.
00:03:55
Speaker
um Okay, I'm going to show you because their little symbol is actually a bell pepper made into a pineapple. So it was extremely fitting. So fitting. The website is spabetti.com.
00:04:08
Speaker
How cute. Oh my gosh. What is that doll? Do you remember that doll? No. When we were kids, it was like... Was it Betty Spaghetti? Betty Spaghetti. Did you not? You don't remember Betty Spaghetti? don't I had Hold on. Wait. Okay.
00:04:21
Speaker
Now I got to find it and show it to you. Tangent. Tangent. You should have like a sound effect for tangents. I know. We need it. We need it. Betty.
00:04:32
Speaker
Spaghetti. They were like dolls. Oh my gosh. Vintage. It says vintage on here. That's kind of terrifying. Vintage Betty Spaghetti dolls. These guys.
00:04:45
Speaker
Oh, interesting. They're kind of noodley. Yeah, very noodley. And noodley, very spaghetti-like hair. Yes, hence the Betty Spaghetti.
00:04:57
Speaker
There you go. Maybe they're a fan of both cooking and Betty Spaghetti the doll. Get yourself a vintage Betty Spaghetti doll.
00:05:07
Speaker
It's like a commercial. Snyder's of Hanover.
00:05:13
Speaker
um Yeah, so I don't know how, like, I feel like the black white cookies I would have in New York were, like, really spongy.
00:05:25
Speaker
Yeah, they're supposed to be, like, cakey, aren't they? Yeah, but i I remember, like, a spongy texture, and I don't know if that's, like, real or if I just, I don't know. And then sometimes it's, the white is kind of lemony, the white icing.
00:05:38
Speaker
Interesting. I did not get that here, nor did I particularly want that. Fair enough. But this recipe didn't have lemon, but they do mention soft and cakey.
00:05:49
Speaker
o So, yeah, I don't know. like I'm sure there's lots of different ways to do it, and there are very particular people. you know you know New York is very particular about their black and white. This true, yes. hum So I don't know. like but they turned out delicious.
00:06:05
Speaker
They're really good. And how did you make the the tan side? Okay. I do feel like this is, you know, hot tip secret ingredient level status because the white frosting, I added some coffee, which did not make it tan enough, but I do feel like it added like a real dip of flavor.
00:06:23
Speaker
Oh, sure. Yeah, yeah. Um, Because there's also chocolate on there. So I'm like tasting it and I'm like, what is it? like you know there' it's like It's like complex. yeah What is it? And I'm like, oh yeah, there's coffee in there.
00:06:36
Speaker
So, um you know, throw some coffee in there. you White icing. yeah Highly recommend. And um if you were trying to make proper black and white cookies, it did not make it tan really at all. So I added some chocolate too and it's still like barely...
00:06:51
Speaker
Yeah, I think that's tan. Yeah, it's a very light tan. Yes. I know. At one point, I just like held it up to my skin and like, I feel like that's tan enough. Because otherwise, was like, this just looks beige.
00:07:04
Speaker
But I mean, I tan is a form beige. the same because I had it on a like a silpat thing. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That was brown. and I'm like, it's not tan. And my husband was like, put it on a white plate.
00:07:17
Speaker
You could see the contrast and and that did help. Yeah. There you go. Smart man. Yes.
00:07:24
Speaker
ah So yeah. um we'll We'll share photos. Yes.
Infiltrating the Fashion Event
00:07:30
Speaker
Check the Instagram if you would like to see the recipe in full. And some photos.
00:07:35
Speaker
Yeah, super yummy. In honor of Black and Tan. Yes, Black and Tan-Gus. Possibly the most iconic undercover roles that we ever have seen Sean and Gus in thus far and maybe forever. Yes.
00:07:49
Speaker
So something that I loved about this film undercover role here for the two of them was that because it's Gus's birthday Gus is kind of making all of the rules oh my gosh so one of the things that Sean does for Gus's birthday and kind of the kickoff to the show I guess we'll we'll go back to the flashback in just a second but they go to like a opening or a premiere for a clothing brand the premiere of a new collection and they get there and everyone it like shocked that they're models but not really gus because gus is like gorgeous right they're shocked that sean's a model and gus is like he's a foot model and sean has to go with it which is yes and yes he's like foot and ankle and i occasionally did some handwork
00:08:38
Speaker
yeah And then it becomes a running thing that he just has to keep with throughout the episode, which I thought was so fun because he never is usually the one that has to keep up with something created by someone else. yeah It was fun. I do think also like one of my favorite sort of i would say bits that psych does is like that we all just pretend that james jorday rodriguez isn't like gorgeous i know he's so funny every time they do that i'm like what are we talking about here i know i know well and that i think that's even that is threaded pretty partially throughout the episode like him staring in the in the mirror being like look at my jaw like
00:09:17
Speaker
phones or whatever he said yes it's like yes you're right you have an amazing job amazing but it is it's part of the bit and it's so funny like like we're all yeah everybody in the world is like what he couldn't possibly be a model hu and it is very funny and i feel like that's not the only episode that they play with that even like with um we talked about his hair for a little while like same kind of a thing yeah he has this great hair and he'll always be like my helmet of hair and no one else like gets it but he he has this gorgeous hair like a great head of hair
00:09:52
Speaker
So yes, our our main overarching thread for this episode is Sean and Gus accidentally on purpose turned themselves into undercover models for a couple of deaths that happened that they must investigate after Gus's birthday is
Witnessing a Murder & Childhood Flashbacks
00:10:08
Speaker
over.
00:10:08
Speaker
Yes. Well, we get another fun like... um sort of right place, right time, or wrong place, wrong time, depending on how you look at it. Because, like, not everybody wants to be present for correct somebody's death, but if you're Sean and Gus, it kind of works out.
00:10:26
Speaker
um But, yeah, and then, like, another, which, was that the last episode where, like, Lassie, oh, maybe it was homicidio where lassie kept like going places and they would be there and he was just like really yes like we get a moment like that yeah where they come to this crime scene and it's like there they are of course and they're witnesses so they're just being corralled there like it's so funny and i love that in this one lassie's just like what did you see he's like just tell me you don't need to go around this whole merry-go-round again like i was Yeah, it almost feels like in like more recent episodes, it's like this has been building to the point where Lassie is just like, okay, yeah yeah, of course you're here. Let's just get into it.
00:11:04
Speaker
and this is like, you know, i I wonder, and you can tell me, or maybe, have we talked about this? How big is Santa Barbara? I feel like it's not that big of a town. It's not.
00:11:16
Speaker
It's not really that big. Right. So I feel like they're bound to bump into each other anyway. Like, and they're in the same business. So I guess it's, it's maybe frustrating that they're always there before.
00:11:27
Speaker
yeah that's true. But yeah, they're bound to bump into each other. That is a good point. Yeah. I wonder like if Lassie is thinking of it like they just weaseled their way into a crime scene or...
00:11:39
Speaker
like, oh, well, they're actually witnesses. They actually were there. Although he does ask them, like, just tell me what happened Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, because that's true, because in some instances, they're They actually have no information. They've just snuck in. Yeah. But in this case, they actually did see what took place.
00:11:55
Speaker
I guess like the way they're sitting there, it does feel like they are part of this environment. And even like the, you know, they're in nicer outfits. and That's true. usually They're like, oh, they're dressed to go out.
00:12:07
Speaker
Yes, exactly. To be at the club. All right. So the episode opens in our flashback era. I think it's 1987 to be precise. And we're in Henry's house.
00:12:21
Speaker
Little baby Sean comes down the stairs and he's wearing a wonderful, what we would now describe as vintage Knight Rider. Yeah, that's true. At the time it was probably like brand new.
00:12:33
Speaker
Right. But now definitely like would be more vintagey. And Henry asked Sean what happened to the very nice sweater vest his mother just put him in for picture day. And Sean said, you know, we weren't we weren't really feeling it. You know mom loves Kit, who if you've never seen Knight Rider, Kit is the car yeah in Knight Rider.
00:12:52
Speaker
I've never seen Knight Rider. Have you? ah Yeah, I've seen bits and pieces of it. My dad is a big car person. Did they turn it into I think they might have also turned it into a movie, but it was originally a TV show yeah with um David Hasselhoff.
00:13:07
Speaker
okay A little bit of a sidebar, but maybe one of like our curriculum
00:13:15
Speaker
topics? Yeah. Forays? Yeah, forays, sure. um Should be, even though like I don't think we have like a Knight Rider episode, we should just have like an eighty s Oh, yes. Series where we watched like a bunch of the classics that were part of their lives.
00:13:31
Speaker
Well, when we go to, um is it the reunion? Yeah. I feel like that's based off of just so many. Yeah. 80s. John Hughes. John Hughes. Yeah.
00:13:43
Speaker
Movies. But there's stuff that they mentioned, like chips. Yes. likequa Like little Sean and Gus's favorite things. we Yeah. like a little That would be fun. That would be a nice, like, if we didn't want to start another season yet, but we just needed like stuff to do. You like background work.
00:14:01
Speaker
What would they call it if you're a police officer and you're trying to like, oh, intel? We're like trying to gain intel on the minds of people. Or build profile. The profile. There you go. Build profile and starting to dust by watching their favorite movies.
00:14:17
Speaker
Which I feel like, yeah, makes sense considering what we're doing right now, which is just watching their never life.
00:14:24
Speaker
Yeah.
00:14:26
Speaker
But yeah, i do I think that would actually be really helpful, especially considering how referential they are to all of those things. so So yeah, essentially Henry knows that Sean is lying and he you uses this moment to be like a half-life lesson.
00:14:43
Speaker
It's not a full Henry lesson, but you know, when a cop can tell when someone is lying and Sean goes, sounds like that. He's like, yeah, go upstairs and change. And then he like goes and that's, that's the end of the day, um which I guess.
00:14:58
Speaker
Yeah. I was just going to say that it's like another instance of Sean kind of playing with the boundaries of what, like, of breaking kind of rules or or pressing against rules.
00:15:10
Speaker
um Because we have seen him sort of grow into that. Like, you know, he used to be pretty malleable and just kind of go with whatever the parents were mostly henry was doing but we've seen a couple instances of him like not doing that not falling in line like the yeah um permission slip forging and like now he's like trying to dress the way you want so we're seeing that come come out more yeah and i think That's also kind of indicative of the age.
00:15:43
Speaker
They're probably like late elementary school. yeah absolutely. At this point. And that's the time I feel like when you start to kind of, a remember things. Because who remembers anything before like fifth or third? I don't think anyone.
00:15:55
Speaker
So like you're starting to actually be... like a full-fledged individual. So you're trying to maybe stake that individuality a little bit more. And in this case, Sean chooses through fashion.
00:16:09
Speaker
Yeah. Which is wonderful. Why not? Again, and that makes sense because he is kind of, you know He likes to look good and stuff. And so it is also that also makes it funny that everybody thinks he does it.
00:16:23
Speaker
That's true. He is like so well-groomed. but He definitely takes care of himself. He's not like scruffy or you know someone who doesn't shower when they should shower. you know yeah he And he seems to be sort of interested in fashion and stuff. Like, I mean, the way Gus is too, like he sort of doesn't entertain it in this episode because he has other.
00:16:45
Speaker
And I think we see that kind of tantruming again. Yes, totally. In a different episode that I can't remember. Yeah. but Where, um, like Gus getting to do, I get, maybe it was Mira.
00:17:00
Speaker
Yes. Oh, because Gus was so inf invested in Mira. Was he throwing a little tantrum? I think so. Or like Miro was getting all the attention. like trump Yeah. So same kind of thing where like Gus is getting to be this model and like everybody who thinks he's so handsome and cool and Sean isn't getting that same attention. So he's just kind of like, yeah, nobody cares about the case. Just me. Yeah. like i yeah You know, which like if it if you were getting the attention, he wouldn't be like, no, totally.
00:17:30
Speaker
ah no totally And I think he's just so used to it He's just so used to getting attention that when it's not there anymore, he's like, what's happening? He doesn't know how to respond. He just gets angry.
00:17:43
Speaker
ah Which is also kind of interesting that this... think he kind of pauses that reaction for ah little bit throughout the episode.
00:17:55
Speaker
Where in the beginning, it's it really is all about Gus. Because it is Gus's birthday. So yes... Gus doesn't want to initially take on the case. He doesn't want to involved in all this. love that game so much of like, not until midnight.
00:18:12
Speaker
Yes. Yes. And so they like, it is my day. that they're playing When they go like, when they're at the arcade, it's like hold music. Cause Sean is just like fighting time. um funny. But Gus, you can tell Gus is having like the time of his life. I know. It's so cute.
00:18:26
Speaker
And that arcade looked like so much fun. don't want to that arcade. Yeah. But yeah, he, he kind of forgoes the tantrum for a little bit until then he doesn't get what he wants, even though he should be getting what he wants in his mind.
00:18:43
Speaker
That's when the. Yeah, that is true. And I mean, Sean, as much as he can be like self-involved and stuff, he like, he likes attention, which isn't, you know, that's a valid need.
00:18:57
Speaker
We all need attention. um
00:19:02
Speaker
But it is... So it's fun that, like... You know, he's a good friend. He loves Gus.
Friendship Dynamics on Gus's Birthday
00:19:09
Speaker
He has taken pains to create this, like, sick birthday for Gus that is so him. Like, Gus calls it the most thoughtful gift he's ever had. yeah um So, like, Sean really cares. and And he is... You know, he knows that one of the rules is that they're not going to work.
00:19:26
Speaker
And looks like it's like, there's a case going on, so it's really hard for him. But he... He's not breaking the rules. Yeah. Yeah. and um But then it's like, he has allotted that time to be Gus time. And then now it's like, still he's not getting yes any of the attention he wants. And so it's like, then the danger, because it's like, it's sort of like adds up.
00:19:47
Speaker
Like, you're right. It's like, he's comfortable. You know, he is foregoing it. Yes. During the time he yeah that you agreed to, but then yeah now it's like, okay, back to me now. Back to me.
00:20:01
Speaker
What? There was an episode where they where they did that. Where... Is it this is a Gus episode? Is that what you're thinking of? Maybe. When when they... when Yeah, Sean or Gus was like, okay, back to me. We're on me now. Exactly. like yeah yes ah And like Sean being the way he is, that's probably like a skill that Gus has had to develop. Oh, sure. To remind him that... like you know we're not on you sean like it's it's me like even with his birthday he's like no we're doing this now yeah yeah like he knows that he knows sean and he also loves sean for who he is yes and so it's like he can say that to him and he's not gonna like hold sean's you know the way sean is against sean because that's who sean is yeah um
00:20:51
Speaker
but it is say ah um Yeah, because some people do, like, you know, need more attention or like more attention. Sure. it makes them feel better. And, like, them being able to have that dynamic, you know, maybe we don't have as many tantrums as we could.
00:21:11
Speaker
but Sean isn't acting out in, like, other ways because yeah they have this dynamic. Yeah. I mean, really, without Sean being this way...
00:21:25
Speaker
they wouldn't have even been present in the first place to have seen happen. Very true. All right. You have to, you know, delay gratification for a couple more hours, Sean. Yeah.
00:21:39
Speaker
But we got to do what we got to do. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. The way you put that, like, that could also be like what Gus appreciates about of like with Mira too. Like we talked about how he is like sort of attracted to that.
00:21:50
Speaker
Yeah. um A very big personality. And it also like, forces him to get out of his comfort zone in maybe a way that he craves, but like can't do himself. Yeah.
00:22:02
Speaker
I could see that. Yeah. So Sean, like doing these outlandish things and getting all this attention, it's like, maybe Gus couldn't do that himself or it wouldn't be like the natural thing for him to do. Yeah. but he still like, likes it.
00:22:16
Speaker
Right. Yeah. Like, like going to this yeah opening or whatever. Clearly Gus is very, excited about going. But would Gus have, on his own, called these people, pretended to be some assistant from some other place, I don't remember what what country he said, and said that you need to put black and tan? Oh, is it the Philippines? Yeah.
00:22:42
Speaker
Pretending to be some Filipino assistant and say that models black and tan are going to be there and orchestrated this whole bit. Yeah. I mean, that's a lot of legwork. Yeah, he would not have done that. he wouldve just been like, whatever. don't need to that way. And part of doing that takes like some some narcissism, you know? Like, and we're going to walk in there and nobody's going to question us.
00:23:08
Speaker
Like, so to be able to do that, yeah, it's like Sean's skill of taking attention and like claiming it and owning it and like taking like being a character is what allows them to have these experiences yeah can we talk about the the black and tan bit oh my gosh while we're here so they and part of the reason why this episode is called actually the only reason why this episode is called Black and tan, a crime fashion is because to get into this party that they're going to for Gus's birthday, which is, ah like I said, a fashion show opening or something, um Sean calls in the models black and tan as being people who should be on the list. And him and Gus are black and tan.
00:24:01
Speaker
Now, the big bit at the beginning when they're trying to get in is that, you know, Sean says they're black and tan. They're retired. Check the list. And the guy's like, oh, my God, it is you. Sorry about that tan talking to Sean. Sean's like, I'm black.
00:24:15
Speaker
I cannot believe you just made that assumption. Shame on wrote and your family. Yeah. Yeah, that part where he's just like, you should be ashamed of yourself and your family. And your family.
00:24:27
Speaker
And he's so serious. And you know, from the moment, from the moment, he said that their names were black and tan. That was the joke he was going to make. you And it's so funny because it's like, again, Sean is just entertaining himself. He's roaming around the world.
00:24:42
Speaker
Like, nobody knows yes how funny that is. Just him. yeah like yeah You know, but I do love that kind of person. Like, I just love people who laugh at themselves. Yeah.
00:24:56
Speaker
Or like, who do things to make themselves laugh. like Yeah, like create fun. Yes, exactly. What is life without a bit of whimsy? You know? Yeah. I mean, we've talked about the Like their great lesson of being like commit to the bit.
00:25:09
Speaker
Yes. Like for us, a lesson for us. Yes. They are great role models of that. Yes. But this will come up multiple times where one of them will be misnamed and they are very understandably perturbed by being misnamed.
00:25:26
Speaker
We'll see a couple of instances of that in a little bit. But there were some great lines in this whole lead up to our first yeah murder. loved when they saw Berlinda and she's like the best model in the Santa Barbara downtown area.
00:25:44
Speaker
She's the gooey girl. She says gooey.
00:25:50
Speaker
I do like this whole episode, and I think um the the game of Gus, like them not being able to work adds to this, but like you have a really strong sense of like place and time.
00:26:01
Speaker
Like sort of, we've had... i think what other episode, maybe the speed dating one kind of struck that too, where you like you really feel like they are moving around this this town and it's all one night. I just, I love stuff like that where it's all like yeah one night.
00:26:21
Speaker
Well, because it feels like you're really spending time with them. Yeah. um You know, because otherwise, I mean, obviously you're still spending time with them if we're we're jumping around time wise, but it's more cozy, I think, when it's a more condensed period of time.
00:26:35
Speaker
Personally.
00:26:38
Speaker
yeah and we get we get the good treat it like a person then a princess then a greek goddess then a person again solidified for us we were wondering what we kept being we know there's something in there yeah yeah and we there's more i want to discuss about that but maybe we can get into it at the henry scene oh sure the scene that's fair i that's gonna be good doozy i know um
00:27:08
Speaker
Yeah, there there was just like a lot in here. You see all of the models kind of like in the background roaming. And um we get our first glance of Emily with Chow Bella, who they're like two other people who work at the company. Chow Bella is one of the founders. Emily is their assistant.
00:27:28
Speaker
And or I guess. Kind of. She's vice president? You learn at the very end that she's actually the vice president. They just treat her like that. Which, I mean, like, I don't know how Emily managed being the vice president, but being literally treated yeah like a second-class citizen.
00:27:46
Speaker
She is very, like, but her part of her characterization is just this very, like, sweet, yeah generous. So, i mean, I guess to some extent, a person like that can sort of let that happen or like not have boundaries. And she may also be thinking that like, you know, I think a lot of people in creative fields, like have this mentality of like, I've got pay our dues.
00:28:13
Speaker
Um, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's good. Some people can put up with that and some people cannot and don't stay in that industry. So, yeah, you know it's true. I mean, it pays off for her in the end, not because of good circumstances. yeah Yeah, really. I mean, working for these two terrible people,
00:28:31
Speaker
um Yeah. You could call this whole thing just like a karmic reward for yeah Emily. Definitely. Definitely.
Murder Mystery Unfolds
00:28:41
Speaker
Definitely.
00:28:42
Speaker
So this brand that Emily works for is called Chow. And it is run by Chow Bella and her husband, Gregor Uwe Stieb.
00:28:55
Speaker
And they are, I guess, here. to present the new fall collection and gregor gets up on the stage to talk a little bit about what's going on but the he's a tall man or a relatively taller man and the mic stand is very low and he starts making this whole big deal about the fact that he has to raise the microphone stand which i was like just raise the designs myself you know also just menial labor whatever it literally takes One twist of the wrist and then a pulling action like you're fine.
00:29:28
Speaker
Calm down. But in doing so, we end up finding out. It's a plant because he ends up getting electrocuted to death. And he dies right there on stage, which very traumatic. Like these models afterwards, I feel like are behaving way too normally for literally just seeing someone die.
00:29:46
Speaker
But they do go to quite a lot of lengths to describe just how low their IQs are in this episode. so There are a lot of funny jokes. There are a lot of, yeah. Yeah. Which I, you know, kind of mean.
00:29:58
Speaker
No offense to models. um But they are funny. And a lot of funny, like, language that they use, like... Yes. Simpleton.
00:30:09
Speaker
It's a fun word. Yes, simpleton. Stuff like that. They just creatively say different things every time they talk about them. Okay,
00:30:23
Speaker
I'm just making sure...
00:30:28
Speaker
Okay, one thing I want to go back to, because I just thought I'm like, wait, did we miss that? Is that after the treater woman like a person and a princess, etc., Gus is going to do something, and Sean like wants to wingman him, and he's like, let me hook it up.
00:30:46
Speaker
Or I'll hook it up. And then he's like telling him this advice, and guss is going to do something, he's like, Operation Colonel Sherlemons... I think it would be best to hear something like that.
00:30:59
Speaker
I don't think I have ever in all my many times of watching this, I don't think I've ever... even heard that like like it's never like sad in my brain because he i mean every they just talk so mean it's like lorelei gilmer you know we talk about the so similarities there but like he just talks so fast and everything's ridiculous and it's like wow and yeah and it's so jammed in like it's so dense the joke that if you just take a moment to think about one of them you've missed three others yeah and you really have to just be going with him yeah it's so fun like
00:31:31
Speaker
This project is so fun because we really have to like pay attention and focus. I like I pause a lot so I can write down the exact like the lines. Yeah, I can do nothing else when I'm taking notes for this. I literally at times have to push my cat away because I'm like, I cannot right now I'm writing. Like, yeah, you can't be distracting, you know, because yeah, it is. It's it's all of the minutia is what we're really looking at.
00:31:57
Speaker
So in order to do that, one must be very focused. Yes. um oh another thing from that moment just because i'm seeing my notes um was we see sean like taking in information which i think we've noted before like it's we have seen him do that without a case and it's like just fun sort of i guess yeah or interesting to remember that he is always taking in information and like sometimes it ends up being relevant sometimes it's probably not because he's always doing it yeah yeah i i
00:32:30
Speaker
I love how you phrase that because i I have never really thought of it like that, but you're so right. He's just always but noticing different things and sometimes it comes together and sometimes it doesn't.
00:32:41
Speaker
I would imagine That that has to be, well, maybe he's, let me just, okay, I'll say it. I imagine that must be relatively like overwhelming yeah to constantly be like taking in all of this information. But I was going to say maybe he's just used to it because he's been doing it for from such a ah young age. But it it almost feels like um you know how how people sometimes describe, like if you could read people's minds, like just the constant yatter.
00:33:11
Speaker
You know, that has to be kind of suffocating, i can imagine. Yeah. Well, I mean, he's probably used to it in the way that, like, he's never, you know, it's just the norm for him.
00:33:22
Speaker
But I do wonder if, like, all of the outward stuff, like, all the nonsense he puts out there is, like, almost a way to deal with it. Yeah. You know? Because it's like, he's just, it's almost like it could be, like, a distraction for him.
00:33:36
Speaker
um Like, it's just a way to put his mind on something else by, like, concocting. whatever. Yeah. And then, because when we we see it, it's like in a quiet moment where he's, Gus walked away.
00:33:49
Speaker
He's alone and he's just like taking in what he sees. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Well, and that makes me wonder too, does he sometimes... you know If he's always taking in information, and I'm going to just guess, we're only seeing some of the times in which he takes in information, or maybe some of the jokes that he makes, like, oh, I pulled this thing.
00:34:12
Speaker
Wouldn't that be so funny? Or like, oh, I did this, and that goes to that, and this goes to this, and then ha-ha joke. like yeah Especially because he moves so fast. Yeah. That would, somehow in my mind, that would make sense.
00:34:23
Speaker
If he was able to do that, like, pull from his surroundings to make commentary on what he's, you know, experiencing. Some of the things that he clocks is um that Chao Bella has, you know, some kind of weird looking fingers. We don't know what that means yet.
00:34:43
Speaker
um But some, like, maybe discolored, some discoloration on her fingers. And... Is that it right now? I think it might be.
00:34:56
Speaker
I know. I didn't really write down what he saw, but he definitely saw that. Yes. that one was That's a big one. And Gregor has now been electrocuted. And they have obviously told everybody that they need to kind of sit down and just wait for the police to get there for questioning. They're all witnesses to what happened.
00:35:15
Speaker
And this is when we get the first moment of Gus setting the boundary, which I was very proud of Gus for reinstating the boundary yes and then constantly reinstating the boundary with Sean.
00:35:27
Speaker
And Sean It's interesting because there's very clearly some boundaries that Sean is willing to just take a giant step over. Very true. So I was happy to see that Sean was like, okay, this is about you, Gus. I love you. This is your birthday. Boundary set.
00:35:41
Speaker
He's going to bring it up a bunch. Yeah. Himself. But he doesn't really do anything. like He doesn't pull Gus to the police station. He doesn't you know do anything kind of big.
00:35:52
Speaker
Yeah, like trick him. Correct. Kidnap him, which we've seen him do. That's actually like a really interesting point because I wonder to like where the line is for Sean of like, yeah, when he's gonna mess with Gus or when he's not like, does he just know that like, m but I mean, they've been friends for 30 years, almost.
00:36:11
Speaker
Like, is it Gus does not play about his birthday? Yeah, could be. ah be like Maybe he's done it before. and right Yeah.
00:36:21
Speaker
Yeah, he tried it once and that not end well. Gus, like, didn't talk to him for a month.
00:36:27
Speaker
Yeah, could be. Could be. If with anyone, I would expect that with Gus, that he would know where that boundary was because they were so close. Yeah, and, like, the birthday being something that happens every year. Mm-hmm. Like,
00:36:40
Speaker
they would have that boundary all the time. Like it's about Gus on his birthday. And maybe that's part of the agreement too, is because Sean makes a lot of things about himself all the time. And so it's like, no, for his birth, for Gus's birthday, it's about Gus.
00:36:53
Speaker
One day of the year. yeah It's about Gus. That seems, I mean, think that's the least Sean can do. Yeah. Literally least.
00:37:04
Speaker
Which in, in the hours of Gus's birthday, yeah. we do a couple more interesting things. Um, um Like in between this party and the eventual arcade that they're going to go to, we stop at Henry's house, which I thought was kind of a funny errand to do.
00:37:25
Speaker
Talking about, maybe that's like Sean's way of like, because he must do something. Yes, for himself. Yeah, for himself. He must make it about himself a little bit.
00:37:37
Speaker
yeah So he makes Gus come with him to, he has to drop something off by 8 Yes. yes And so he's doing it now because he's got a sleep in. Which is fair.
00:37:48
Speaker
Yeah. At least he knows himself. And they're like these half boots, like black and white half boots that are Henry's. They're like quite garish. Looking like mike snakeskin. Yeah, yeah. Hopefully fake.
00:38:02
Speaker
and Yeah. And this whole little bit is
00:38:10
Speaker
great great and it's it's been a while since we've seen henry dating but yeah so the first they hear voices right yes are they hear something yes they hear voices and sean says it's 10 43 he's easily been asleep for two hours
00:38:31
Speaker
and then they open our now confirmed door oh i didn't even think about damn it i meant to watch the door that door has been confirmed um okay a life door so i was thinking as i was reliving the door discourse yes um to put like the pull the pictures and stuff so they definitely by bounty hunters had it switched out and i don't know it's possible it was before then yeah um
00:39:04
Speaker
But I wonder, because I was like, then I was thinking, does Sean's mom show up in this episode? Because I was remembering that Henry and Sean had some weirdness and Henry kept trying to find him, which is kind of like when Henry keeps trying to get a hold of him to tell him that his mom's coming. So I was like, is that this episode?
00:39:18
Speaker
that this episode? But this is still an important moment where like Sean has to knock and then she jee opens the door. And so maybe it was because of this moment.
00:39:30
Speaker
Sure. I'm like, was there something in the script that was like, okay, we need to have a door there? Right. Because like the whole blocking of like Sean and Gus walking up that main way that they always go that we discussed a lot, whether it was the front or the back, but through that yard, yeah that beachfront side yard. Beachfront side, yes.
00:39:50
Speaker
And then like being at a door. Right. So... doesn't really mean anything but I think it being also opaque is important yeah it true slider very true and we can see what's happening on the other side there's not that like oh yeah when yeah it's cheap thick what are you doing here yeah and I guess I just love thinking about stuff like that in terms of like making a TV show or something where you like have to you're changing the environment. So that suits the story that you're telling or the bit, the joke you want to have or whatever. It's just fun to think about.
00:40:30
Speaker
So other than that, it doesn't really mean anything, but maybe it was for this.
00:40:37
Speaker
I mean, I do think it, it adds to the moment. If it was anything else, I think it would have been totally different. That's a very good point. And it is actually, the moment is,
00:40:48
Speaker
You know, it's interesting because we've said before, we watch this show so habitually. like We've seen it so many times. It is just a part of kind of the fabric of our lives that I hear things in the background. And again, we miss details of it.
00:41:02
Speaker
So watching this and really staring at them when they open this door in this very awkward, like, oh, my God. I was like, I never realized before. Yeah. Well, and I like my notice.
00:41:15
Speaker
sean's chief and then like the little like pleading sad face because he's like scared yes oh this is like this is not just his dad dating but this is like his work like his you know this is cheap yeah and like this is two worlds that can't come together yes absolutely and in that way too it's not even like henry and chief vic just talking to each other and like crossing the boundaries of family and work but now it's oh shit is my dad dating yeah again like is he talking to women what's happening and that woman is chief thick is he even allowed to do that like yeah not to bring up the santa claus too again yes but i'm reminded of like how charlie in the santa claus u.s feels when his dad is dating the principal
00:42:09
Speaker
Okay, season two of Psych is just a remake of Santa Claus 2. Yeah. but Without all the Christmas.
00:42:20
Speaker
Yeah, I mean, I... Just from that first scene, and we we're going to get a couple of scenes coming back to this, the feelings that Sean must be experiencing regarding this. But just this first scene, you can tell that Sean is not only maybe upset, but is really scared about what is going to happen. very boyish, very childlike response that we feel from him.
00:42:46
Speaker
And I think... I feel like that's kind of normal. Like we've we've talked a little bit before about how it's hard when you're put back into certain dynamics to behave any way other than those dynamics. And I think Henry and Sean have been trying to forge a new, more adult version of their relationship.
00:43:07
Speaker
But Henry dating, i feel like smacks that trauma of the divorce, like right in Sean's heart. So now he's just a little kid again. Like what's, what's happening? Why aren't you with my mom? You know? Yeah. And at this point we haven't worked through like the truth of what happened at all. Like Sean is still operating under this,
00:43:28
Speaker
sort of false narrative that like that Henry left her, um which Henry does say something later, which again, I want to really spend time with that scene.
00:43:41
Speaker
So I won't get too into it, but like make says the way he phrases it is like, she's not coming back, which again is like, she is the one who left, but henry um Henry, Sean is like, not really hearing any of that or seeing any of that. And and maybe it's because he's in this like,
00:43:58
Speaker
reverted version of himself that's like very in that moment yeah um of them breaking up but yeah it's it's funny because this is a like on a night about guests this is quite a quite a um journey for sean yeah this is very a very heavy very heavy thing to be happening for sean yes all of this So we we open the door. We see that it's Chief Vic.
00:44:30
Speaker
The boys have a oh moment where they think Henry is dating Chief Vic. funny. And you can tell like. And she's got like a drink. She's in like her street clothes. Oh my gosh. She looks so cute. She looks like she's having fun. Yeah.
00:44:42
Speaker
I love this dress that she has on. It looks so great on her. And you can tell it takes her a second to realize like why the boys are being so weird. And then her friend steps in to the frame and she's like, oh, oh, like I see how this looks. No, it's about Susan. This woman here. Hello.
00:45:02
Speaker
and then they're like, oh I got it. And I love how She has to very distinctly say that most people call me, I'm Sue, but most people call me Sue B. She so funny. Like, man, fun. I don't know if you know this. Maybe you do.
00:45:21
Speaker
But this is Corbin Bernson's actual wife. I didn't know that. Yes. Which I love stuff like that. I love that. Yeah, that's so cute.
00:45:32
Speaker
That's so funny. Especially with, like, the restaurant scene and everything. Yes. so funny. Yeah. I'm sure they were like, just ham it up. Yeah. More ham. It lasts for them.
00:45:44
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But she does a great job. So good. Like, she's so funny. Is she actually... Where is she from? Does she actually have an accent in real life?
00:45:55
Speaker
Yeah. It looks like she's British. Because I checked a couple different ways to make sure it was her. Because I'm like, was pretty sure. And then I was like, I googled like, Corbin Bernson wife, psych, and nothing from the episode came up. And I was like...
00:46:09
Speaker
am I did I make this up but it I'm like that looks like her and so I checked her IMGb and stuff and I'm like so okay it's her but yeah so British I think oh we love that that's awesome I wonder if we oh we do we do get some more of those later on in the season Dulé Hill's wife is in it.
00:46:27
Speaker
Yeah. Later on, later on. um Or is that the movies? Anyway, later on. Oh, movies. I think she does start in the movies. Yeah. Another fun thing in terms of reality is Maggie Lawson and Emily Bloom.
00:46:41
Speaker
They're best friends in real life. And they met on this episode. way! And they're like still like best, best, best friends. Oh, that's so cute. Well, they are very, like, they have a scene together later on.
00:46:55
Speaker
Yeah, that's what I like. So wholesome. Uh-huh. And I do feel like that scene probably was like. We're besties now. Started a beautiful friendship. Connected forever through a pair of red heels.
00:47:11
Speaker
yeah i Yeah, this was a great ah great little scene. Henry being upset about the fact that she's wearing a cardigan he cubed the cheese himself and she didn't eat any of it, which I thought that was adorable that he cubed the cheese himself.
00:47:26
Speaker
gary Also very, like, 80s feeling. ah Yeah, yeah. You have the fireplace going. I love the lion's. ah um you know it ladies night at club henry yeah yeah
00:47:46
Speaker
i mean it looks like a great time but also i can imagine probably kind of awkward Oh, incredibly. Literally Henry, Vic, and this one lady. Yeah. I mean, and I was also, when you were talking about Vic opening the door, like, I wonder if she had a moment of, like, why are my coworkers at this door? Oh, could You know? Like, because it is, it's like a code switch. Like, they have two very separate worlds just totally merging. And, like, throughout this whole episode, because even though it's not Henry and Vic, both of them want to talk to him about it.
00:48:19
Speaker
Yes. Well, and I love... how we see that depicted throughout the episode like whenever sean talks to vic and she's talking about sue she's very like girly and like excited and then she's get back to work like very you know when she's the chief which code switching exactly nelson always the delivery queen she does she is the delivery queen she does such a great job i also loved um when they're sean and henry are talking in the kitchen and henry goes she's a little nondescript and sean goes nondescript i've never heard a woman described like that unless she's a robbery suspect so funny i mean but it's so quaint in a way like henry does not know how to do this you know he hasn't dated really since he was married and
00:49:11
Speaker
He, yeah, he doesn't know how to talk about her. He doesn't know, like, what to do. He just wants... The only man in his life that he can talk about this with is his son. No.
00:49:23
Speaker
so i Yes, he does. He just needs some support at this moment. And Sean, because of all the feelings he's feeling, is like, nope, can't do it. Not happening. Just think there you know? Like, I'm sure, like, a lot of people don't really want to hear about, especially after divorce, like, kind of, like, that their parents love lives and be the confidant for that.
00:49:44
Speaker
Sure. I mean, it's just such a... fun for us. yeah because yeah yeah you Probably not fun for that situation for them. yeah but Because it's like, Henry is so out of his depth.
00:49:58
Speaker
And yeah to think about, like he doesn't have any friends. you know And to think that he and Sean have gotten close enough that like that's who he wants to talk to about it. That's whose advice he wants on this. like It's it's yeah weird it difficult and difficult, but it like really sweet too. it's just i love this yeah It's very yeah very much like life.
00:50:19
Speaker
Yes. Complex, complicated, nonsensical. ah But great nonetheless. I do love, just after reading that quote, the nondescript quote, and after hearing what you said about him being so like out of practice, it's funny to think that he's falling back on like police procedure to describe her.
00:50:37
Speaker
Like, okay, how do I take in this suspect? Yeah. but Yeah. Like he doesn't know how to talk to human beings and be a person. He doesn't know how to a person. so I mean, that's what we've said. know, like how he makes, I mean, maybe he never has, you know, as long as he's been on the job, he hasn't. Cause like ah the way he handles Sean, you know, it's like, he doesn't really know how to do this.
00:50:58
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. I feel like, actually, now that we ah say that, that's like a critical part of Henry is that he doesn't know how to do any of this. And he is trying. Yes. yeah He is always trying. Yeah.
00:51:11
Speaker
He's... he Yes. He feels like he's just not like a people person. You know, some people are just really natural when it comes to dealing with like elderly people or kids. Sean would be good example. Right. Exactly. He can talk to anybody.
00:51:25
Speaker
Effortless. Like he doesn't even have to think about what to do. Henry is just, yeah, not that person. But he tries. it's Like you said, he tries so hard to get it right. Mm-hmm. but it just doesn't come naturally to him. It just like doesn't it doesn't click, which is interesting when you consider how much he knows about like psychology and like criminology and like victimology. like he But it's all from that perspective of like... Yeah, I guess so.
00:51:51
Speaker
The dynamics of crime, which is like not super helpful. Yeah, when it comes to dating, you know. yeah
00:52:00
Speaker
That's true. Well, and he even goes to... He goes to Sean specifically asking for his opinion. And he says, come on, Sean, you have an opinion on everything, especially when it comes to women. So, yeah, I guess it would make sense.
00:52:13
Speaker
Yeah. He's like, well, Sean's good at this. Right, right. Not thinking. Which is kind of cute that, like, he sees Sean as, like, a... As someone who is good with... but like yeah like to see Because he doesn't think of Sean as being good at anything very often, or we don't see him say that. And so it's interesting for him to go to Sean for this.
00:52:33
Speaker
Yes. He's like, well, you're better at this than I am. but yeah i Yeah. In terms of Henry never being good at this, his wife was from the same world so like that could have even yeah know that weirdness could have been a part of their relationship in a way that like doesn't work with everybody yeah because they're both probably pretty weird and she understands people in the same ways that he does yeah definitely so yeah like just being released out into like the regular world with the regular people yes he was kind difficult for him yeah well what i do
00:53:11
Speaker
what I do end up liking about this is that she's really not a regular person. Like she's just kind putting on the facade. And with all respect, I would think she's fascinating and great. But like, do we think in this early scene, was she like just nervous, didn't know what to show him?
00:53:32
Speaker
Is any of it false? Like, is she putting on a front later? Is she trying to be something he wants? Like, that's a great question. I just don't know what she actually is. Because we don't spend a lot of time with her. No, we don't. And it's interesting because in both situations, she seems very convincing, if that makes sense. Yeah.
00:53:50
Speaker
It doesn't feel like one of them, other than the... the um extremeness of the second scene it it doesn't really feel like she's putting on a show do you know what i mean like it it feels like that is really her like she's somewhat comfortable in that at least I wonder if maybe the difference was Vic like oh in the first scene she's there with Karen yeah And she's like at Henry's house and she's being presented by Karen. and Yeah.
00:54:18
Speaker
She's just with him. I mean, there are other people there, obviously, but she's just with Henry. Uh-huh. And Karen being the interim chief of police and her being someone who works in the mayor's office, they may know each other in a professional, or they may have met in a professional capacity. So it's possible Vic doesn't know, you know, that side of her.
00:54:38
Speaker
Yes. Her wild side. yeah And so, yeah, you're right. Maybe she is like kind of presenting more. Not that it's not who she is, but like just that more poised. Yes. Quieter.
00:54:48
Speaker
and And she does seem nervous the way she introduces herself as Sue B. Also, my question was, do we think she's Sue B because her last name starts with B or because she's the second Sue?
00:54:59
Speaker
Oh, my God. we did not think of it that way at all, but now I'm obsessed with that. I just, I want there to be like, yeah I want there to be five Suis and there's like Sue E. and Yeah, they're just A, B, C, D. That is really funny.
00:55:17
Speaker
I feel like, well, just the version of her that we meet in that scene, I could totally see her just being the second Sue. Yes, totally. Not Sue, you know, Berg or something. Yes.
00:55:30
Speaker
The B Sue. And just like allowing that. And maybe... that's Maybe that is her main like person. like Her main persona um is this more quiet person.
00:55:46
Speaker
moving Something about Henry makes her want to just like show him.
00:55:52
Speaker
but who she Still waters run deep. Yes, this is very true. it' very true they There was something else that was going to... What were we just saying?
00:56:03
Speaker
Sorry, I got thrown off by the Bisou. That's now the title of the episode. Oh my gosh. The Bisou just sounds so great.
00:56:12
Speaker
You she said she seems a little nervous. I'd be pretty nervous too if I was just being brought over to some random man's house, whether my friend was there or not. I'd be like, this is kind of odd. like i don know't And then his son shows up? Like, now you're meeting the family? And then she leaves?
00:56:26
Speaker
Yeah! Like, what happening here? Yeah, and maybe that's part of what Sue feels is like, maybe that wasn't where she feels she shines.
00:56:37
Speaker
Yes. That whole like set up environment and like, you know, it's not neutral ground either. You're like at his house. Yes. That's kind of weird. Yes, definitely. So yeah, maybe she just wanted to like take him somewhere.
00:56:51
Speaker
Well, he picks Yes. But just be somewhere else. Yeah. You're right. Neutral ground, like you said. Yeah. Oh, excuse me. Yes.
00:57:02
Speaker
Should we talk about that scene while we're here? or
00:57:07
Speaker
don't think so. I think we should chronologically. right Let's keep going. It's because I'm seeing the next things.
00:57:13
Speaker
Which kind of like um when they're leaving, like Gus giving him like a pep talk, Sean, a pep talk. Like oh your dad's going to be dating. like Oh my gosh. I know. What a good friend.
00:57:24
Speaker
Yeah. Because you can tell like, I mean, Sean does end up saying like essentially what the hell is he thinking? But you can tell that Gus right off the bat was like, yep, that was weird, but it's going to be okay. Like don't take a breath.
00:57:36
Speaker
It's all right. Also my birthday. So let's keep going. like That was kind of why I was like, let's go ahead. I'm Cinderella and this is my ball.
00:57:47
Speaker
but So good. And I love that they chose to go to an arcade for his birthday because just the first and perfect, perfect enmeshment of like child, but adult, because now you have all of your own money. So you can spend the arcade and he gets this massive hot dog, like piles it high with toppings. They're playing DDR, which is so much fun. What a throwback.
00:58:05
Speaker
Yeah. And they are horrible at it.
00:58:11
Speaker
Hysterical. like the The dance moves are just so good. And the background music for all of this being just like... dude Yeah. Just like they're on hold.
00:58:23
Speaker
So good. Okay. And I love the mini air hockey scene where Gus is like going hardcore on the air hockey and Sean is just standing there talking through the case. Gus goes,
00:58:39
Speaker
Not moved at all. I just, so ridiculous and so fun. And then the clock strikes 12 and Gus is willing now, finally, to hear the case. So they have been going to go into the station.
00:58:55
Speaker
I just love it. Like, that's such a, I mean, it's kind of healthy, you know? It's like... Oh, yeah. Okay, at this time, we can begin that, but up to this time, it's my time.
00:59:07
Speaker
and yeah nothing theyre like And when it does happen, it's like ah child at screen time. yeah You know? like
00:59:15
Speaker
Yes, definitely. it's like Once it's over, you might get to throw a fit, but Gus doesn't. He's like, okay. Yeah, that's good. I think partly that's because maybe he set the boundary. like He said, and these are the confines of what I need.
00:59:31
Speaker
And then after that we can do whatever. but Yes. I was, again, i i wrote it like all over the place. I'm just so proud of Gus for setting that boundary and being willing to really stick to it.
00:59:42
Speaker
Yeah. Even the way you said that, like of what I need, like that is in order for his emotional needs to be met for his birthday celebration. This is what they're going to do. And honestly, we should all do that because I think a lot of people have their birthday, me included.
00:59:56
Speaker
And it's like, you know, you try not to act like you want anything. And then like, maybe nothing happens you feel sad or like a lot of people are let down by their birthdays and it's like if we all had contracts like this we're like we're doing this and then at midnight we can change i think that's how all birthdays should be yes this is actually person brilliant should just say i want to do this and i want to do that and i want these people here and it ends at this time thank you good night take ownership yes that you are made happy by your own birthday look at gus
01:00:29
Speaker
She's having fun. Yeah. Love Gus. So we, you know, we go to the wee hours of the morning.
01:00:40
Speaker
And my question is, but do, so detectives, I don't know this. I may be throwing it to the ether, but if you happen to know Kylie, please let me know. Do detectives work?
01:00:52
Speaker
like 20 hour shifts or something or do because in my head I'm always like oh detectives just work a regular day shift and then they go home and they come back the next day it's a regular day shift but this is definitely like two o'clock in the morning so yeah i they're getting overtime well or they're working late they probably they could have been well they would have been like probably on call and then someone died and so then they respond and then they are on until oh They hit probably like a natural lull or like um shift, maybe like somebody else would take over something. But like they, I think they definitely would keep continue working if there was an active case like that.
01:01:37
Speaker
Okay. So it's kind of.
01:01:40
Speaker
It's kind of like like doctors and babies. Like there's a doctor on call if a baby's being born and and then you're going to deliver the baby because you're the person on call, except in this case, murder.
01:01:52
Speaker
Yeah, you're going to. I mean, you know, somebody's got to bring people into the world. Somebody's got to take them out. true It's true. They are the usherers of death. Terrifying. I'm in the corner. No, man.
01:02:08
Speaker
Woody, I cannot wait till we get to Woody. my gosh. Sometimes I forget how long it takes for Woody to arrive. two Especially because Woody is just the perfect freaking addition this character. Yeah, it's such a testament to how well he fits. Because it is it's like you forget that he was ever not there. Yeah.
01:02:31
Speaker
I'm honestly sad when he's not there. Yeah. But at the same time, I also feel like... if um maybe we talked about this like with Cloudy with a Chance of Murder or something.
Model Loft Antics & Identity Swaps
01:02:43
Speaker
Woody being, like if you put him in season one, he probably wouldn't have been. would none of Absolutely. Yes. so it's like It has this natural progression where suddenly it's like,
01:02:54
Speaker
Woody belongs. Yes. Well, yeah, I think that's exactly the episode when we talked about, house like, how Psych gets more and more yeah extreme of a version of itself. Yes.
01:03:06
Speaker
And Woody is definitely an extreme version of of Psych itself. You know, like, the jokes that he can throw with Sean, like, his eccentricities, like, definitely wouldn't have played his earlier seasons. Yeah. Because he's, like, a very absurd...
01:03:22
Speaker
Yeah, very absurd. We're a little more grounded. We're not quite there yet Yeah, yeah, yeah. This show does get pretty absurd. It does. It does. But it happens. It's almost, you know, like they say about so grass boiling ah an animal that like you wouldn't even know. Like a lobster. Like it that you don't even realize it's happening. You know that thing? It's like it happens so gradually that you don't even know.
01:03:44
Speaker
You have never heard of that? It's like an animal. I don't know how do you phrase it. Yeah. um I thought you were going to say like a watch pot never boils. Oh.
01:03:55
Speaker
I was like, what? I know. Well, i it's like a slow burn. Like it's so, so gradual. you you never noticed like that kind of a thing. Yeah. But it's like a book, but specifically with a boiling pot.
01:04:10
Speaker
That's thing. know I'm not good with idioms, so I'm not the person to ask. I think would be the main one. Maybe like frogs. I don't know. That's why I said animal. It all makes me sad. So like to abstract it.
01:04:24
Speaker
but also remind us that we're talking about animals, living creatures. and When you boil them, yeah, it's like a gradual thing that it's like suddenly it's boiling, you know?
01:04:34
Speaker
oh Anyway, I feel like that's what psych does to us. Yes. It happens so gradually that suddenly it's ah it's insane and we didn't even notice. Completely, completely.
01:04:48
Speaker
Without a doubt. But also like, It's interesting that, yes, it is so insane at the end, but not so insane that it feels unrealistic for these characters so that if I were to start the series over again immediately, I'm not like, whoa, you know? Right.
01:05:05
Speaker
It's an interesting... ah So true, Yeah. Yeah. ah but I mean, I feel like they still feel like themselves. They never, it's never like a jump the shark kind of situation. It feels like earned.
01:05:20
Speaker
And like, they still feel familiar. And like, the and the little bits that are like, maybe there's the concentration is more later, like they're still there. early on like oh even in this next scene when they um I forget what they even said but Carlton is like I'd rather shower with a bear which I think is the first time we get that but he does that a lot I'd rather he does yeah He does.
01:05:50
Speaker
um But yeah, so like those little bits and just like and you have these moments of like, you know, Sean being just like really big, like the visions being really big. And so like that is happening early on. But it's just like by the end, it's like just even it's just more and it's all the time.
01:06:07
Speaker
Yes. So we just got to the station and it's the middle of the night and there are just a whole gaggle of models everywhere, which I just, I also love that they're all standing about in model poses.
01:06:23
Speaker
Oh my gosh. Also, it's really funny, like, Okay, the sense of time and place and everything. But like, this is just the Santa Barbara modeling scene. And these people are so like, think they were like in Milan or something. yeah they're taking it very seriously.
01:06:40
Speaker
and it's funny that they're so uppity. Yes. You're just, you're Santa Barbara models. You're not. I know. I don't know. I wonder what the modeling scene in reality is like.
01:06:53
Speaker
I don't think that a town like that would even have a modeling scene. Is that a thing? I have no idea. I know nothing about the modeling scene. I know. We're really not able to speak to this.
01:07:06
Speaker
But I guess, I mean, well, another thing is that they have this seemingly sort of moderately big fashion label, Homegrown in Santa Barbara, which Juliet says, think,
01:07:22
Speaker
I think that they're homegrown, whatever. yeah, yeah. So maybe that necessitates a modeling scene or like sure ah allows one to kind of crop up if in this alternate history where we have this really, this pretty big fashion label there.
01:07:41
Speaker
Yeah. I mean, think that would kind of make sense. I mean, especially if they maybe wanted to use local talent. since they were like homegrown and we know they have the loft and everything. So they certainly are yeah and investing into these people in some way.
01:07:59
Speaker
But yeah, it is kind of funny that there are so many yeah that are like so serious in this relatively small town. Yeah. I mean, I guess maybe all the people at the station aren't all from Santa Barbara. They were just all at the event. Maybe just like all in a five or six or whatever. I mean, yeah or the four. Yeah.
01:08:21
Speaker
ah Yeah, four. Because it's the two guys and then the two girls. Okay. So maybe those are like the models. Yes, like the The Chao models. The faces, yeah, the people of Chao. The people of Chao. The faces of Chao. And then everybody else is like people from LA who came up or whatever. Sure.
01:08:40
Speaker
That would make sense, especially if this is like a launch event. yeah you would invite a lot of important people yeah well sean and gus barely made it in i know black and tan black and tan um there's some great lines in this little scene i love one of them can't even confirm the spelling of their own name Which is hysterical.
01:09:03
Speaker
And they confirm later that it's Berlinda. Which makes sense. That would be a difficult name to spell. Berlinda. Berlinda. Is it U? Which is the one that Gus is like unloved.
01:09:15
Speaker
Yes. I also love when Vic comes out of her office to grab Sean, but sees all the models and everyone everywhere and she starts talking to them and then she looks at Lassie and she goes, change that tie, detective, and keeps on talking
01:09:31
Speaker
to be fair was not his best tie he's yes a very nice time this one is not one of them it's like his main journey for the episode is yeah his tie well yeah oh okay intrigue everyone has a little bit of a fashion journey yes i i wrote that later like i love and i'm sure we see others but like a case like this where it it has influence on everybody yes it has or it has an influence on everybody yeah And then Chief grabs, Chief Vic grabs Sean. And I thought it interesting that I feel like for the first time in a while, we got a real clear interim chief. Yes.
01:10:10
Speaker
Which I think pretty much anyone else would have assumed by now that she was just the chief because she's been in this position for so long. But no, she's still the interim chief. Yeah. And you know why? I bet they put that in there because the next episode is when they resolve that.
01:10:27
Speaker
Oh. Perfect. So that was, I bet they were like, okay, we need to make this beat here so that when we talk about it next episode, people remember that that's still a thing.
01:10:39
Speaker
Yes, that totally makes sense. And I mean, it does it does make sense too for what she's talking about. Like, you wouldn't want there to be a tarnish on the reputation of the interim chief. Yeah, because wants the job.
01:10:53
Speaker
yeah Yeah. I mean, why wouldn't you? Totally. That's funny. Like... Also, like, um just thinking how we haven't seen Vic in every episode yet. I don't know, like, I feel like get to a point where she is in every episode, but don't know. Yeah, totally.
01:11:09
Speaker
Yeah, but she hasn't been. But this episode and the next episode, there's, like, some strong Vic plots. so Strong Vic plots.
01:11:20
Speaker
Yeah, I'm trying to think because she's not in the main title sequence. She's not um credited in the main title sequence yet, but she will be eventually. And I bet that's probably when we start seeing her more consistently. Although, again, I'm still not very clear on how all that works. but I think it's all very vague.
01:11:40
Speaker
Yeah. and want Okay, before that happened, is that...
01:11:46
Speaker
Did they already agree to allowing Sean and Gus to continue to be black and tan and be on the inside? Yes, I believe so. Because I just want to mention when Sean was saying, like, they already think we're models. that's when we get the everybody look at my jaw.
01:12:00
Speaker
Yes. a lot um But he was saying how they will only talk to people like them, shallow, judgmental, cruel, and gorgeous. Yeah.
01:12:09
Speaker
so funny and then shallow judgmental and gorgeous yeah yeah that tracks yeah and then after his moment with Vic I think he calls them marbled chiseled simpletons marble chiseled simpletons yeah yeah yeah so funny oh I'd like I like that. Marbled chiseled.
01:12:32
Speaker
Because chiseled makes sense in the respect of like defined, but also literally chisel marble. Yeah. Yeah. Very true. Actually, i think i that's like when they get to the loft. so I'm sorry. I skipped a hit.
01:12:43
Speaker
That's okay. Still a great line. The way they talk about the models is really funny to me.
01:12:50
Speaker
Yes. Okay. So going back to Vic. Yes. We're in Vic's office and Vic is seemingly there to ask some very serious questions about the case, but no, she just wants to know, did your father say anything about my friend, Susan?
01:13:06
Speaker
yeah and sean is like man what is going on with everybody i don't blame him but i also think this must be like pretty fun for vic too to be like setting up my friend yeah i think he doesn't love that like to really get to i mean everybody likes a little human interest in their lives yeah So then we see the boys go to the model loft, which has been bought and is right across the street from the Chow studio.
01:13:37
Speaker
It's bought for the Chow models and they live there. And seemingly the last person who happened to live here just moved out. So Sean gets him and Gus a bunk without telling Gus. Yes. I love the moment where Gus is like explaining how well he fits in. He's like, I have these shirts.
01:13:56
Speaker
I have these whatever. That's my exact whatever. And that picture of my mom parasailing in Montego Bay.
01:14:06
Speaker
Yeah, so good. He like doesn't put two and two together until it's starring him right in the thing.
01:14:16
Speaker
But it's like, it makes so much sense. I mean, I guess not if they're retired, why they would be in the monologue. That's good question. But putting them in there to gain extra information. Yeah, it funny how like easily they just...
01:14:33
Speaker
join right in with this world but i guess the models maybe that is also like like making the models so dumb allows them to kind of get away with yeah whatever questioning yeah that's a good point i do love the hassen pfeffer is that his name oh my gosh he is hysterical i don't know the actor's name but his delivery of every single line golden Yeah.
01:15:00
Speaker
um Oh, they also, Gus mentions, he's like, I wonder if it's like the one in Head Over Heels when they're going into the loft, which I loved that movie when I was a kid. I don't remember the details, but.
01:15:11
Speaker
I've never seen it. It's like about, it well, and I was actually thinking about it leading up to this I didn't realize that they referenced it, but I'm like thinking of like, oh, if we watched a movie for this. And I thought of that one because it's like about models who like witness a murder through the window, I think.
01:15:24
Speaker
Oh, and I'm like, that's kind of the same. Yes. That would have been very fitting. Yeah. Well, maybe we'll. We can watch it post humorously. Yes. Or post episode.
01:15:38
Speaker
ah But yeah, I love that, you know, Gus gets the bed by the window. Sean gets the bed by the closet. He asks Gus to help him set up his clapper, which who doesn't love a good clapper? Sean is like so ready to settle yeah deep in i mean this is a good gig because yeah true but like what is the what's the rent situation here is it yeah we don't know where sean lives right now he always lives in weird places so it's true could this just be the next weird one yeah does he move out after this we don't know no him and emily seemed to really hit it off that would be really funny if like with several episodes from now we just like we just found out he was still living oh my gosh i hope so that would be very very fitting of him
01:16:22
Speaker
And yeah oh, yeah, Gus is like Gus realizes that he's going to fit in, but he's not too keen on staying until Berlinda comes out of the shower, essentially. And he's like, oh, I'll have the the bunk by the window.
01:16:39
Speaker
And yeah then they go downstairs and the boy models try to like haze, I guess, Sean and Gus into the lofts with a pillow fight.
01:16:50
Speaker
Oh, yeah. But they call Gus Black instead of Tan, which is his, Tan should be his name. yeah And Gus smacks. smacks him like all his force with this dang doll I mean crazy and you could see the other guys like oh my god and Sean goes it would really behoove you guys to get our names right in the future and I love that I'm like did behind the scenes like decide like this was gonna be a really
01:17:23
Speaker
yeah this is gonna be a really big deal for them or i don't know it's just like so funny that they're on the same page about like the very extreme reaction of course We get the names and then, oh, oh, oh, then Berlinda gets dressed. She comes down the stairs and Gus was like, essentially, I think we should like hang out, answer some questions, like get some stuff done, you know?
01:17:43
Speaker
She's like, no, I think we should go to the club and do some which I was like, is that something people do? The models decide it's time to, i guess, go to the club or like go out.
01:17:57
Speaker
Yes. Go party. That's their probably their lifestyle. Yeah. And So they all get dressed up in their outfits of black and they model walk down this alley.
01:18:11
Speaker
She was like, okay, yeah I get it for the sake of the the model walk premise. But then I was like, how? I mean, Henry pops out of nowhere. And Sean asks the question that everyone is thinking, how did you find me?
01:18:23
Speaker
This is a very strange spot. And Henry's answer didn't really help me much. But he said, I was a detective for 20 years. You're not hard to find. I was just like, this literally, though, he's...
01:18:34
Speaker
in a random alley it is kind of funny yeah cause like what information does henry have that sean is undercover working a case and so he's gonna do we think he's chipped oh my god because it's not like they have oh that's what i was just thinking i don't think that they or if they do i don't think they are advanced enough yet to be like tracked Or not, like, without a police warrant.
Technological Ponderings & Personal Changes
01:19:00
Speaker
Yeah. I mean... Do we see them with cell phones now? Now that I'm thinking that, I can't even recollect.
01:19:09
Speaker
Uh... Hmm. I know. I don't know. There's so much of our world it's like hard to even like... It's like they're like furniture, you know? like i don't think about them when I see them. No, I know.
01:19:22
Speaker
um But they... They must. Yeah. Okay. Thinking of a moment when Sean is talking to Lassiter. Yes. um Outside the club.
01:19:36
Speaker
The Monarch Club. Monarch Lodge. Whatever. Lodge. Yes. Okay. I was also thinking, sean doesn't Sean get Henry? Nope. Henry gets Sean a psych phone case.
01:19:49
Speaker
Yeah. At some point. Okay, so they're, yes, they're about, but they're probably still like the Razor flip phones. That's what I'm thinking. Oh, I'm thinking Delbecchio's phone.
01:20:01
Speaker
o Or maybe it wasn't Delbecchio, the other guy, but in that Bounty Hunters episode when it's waterlogged, you know? Yeah, it might have been Delbecchio's. I don't know, but that was a Razor. home Well, let's take a moment for the model lock.
01:20:15
Speaker
Oh my God. it's They're in a line. lot like i mean i guess that's why they need an alleyway they can't go yeah down like a regular street because there wouldn't be enough room for them to all stand in a line like that and walk on the sidewalk silly so and they're all like doing like smolder yeah and there's like fog and we've got like um I've got the brains.
01:20:44
Speaker
We've got the looks. Let's make lots of money. We've got that song going on. And it's just like a great sequence. And then Henry pops out like a record scratch.
01:20:55
Speaker
And they're all like, what? Yeah, but who how are you? are Yeah, and he's also wearing like a A very brightly colored, or maybe it's not even that brightly colored, the shirt, but just in contrast to them all wearing black. Like, what does that mean? also, Sean is wearing like a little scarf and a matching hat. Yes, a matching hat. They're like crocheted.
01:21:18
Speaker
They're very nice high fashion. Yes, very high fashion. And yeah, thought they all looked very cute. Mm-hmm. They all looked adorable.
01:21:30
Speaker
But... Yeah. Sean gets stopped by Henry. and the other models keep going. i know. They're so mean. Well, and... If they... I don't know. If they're really as dumb as they keep making them out to be, maybe they literally were just like, who's that weird person? i don't know. Keep walking.
01:21:51
Speaker
Did they really think about it? and don't know. But then when they get into a limo, I did think it was really funny when they were in the limo. Gus was like, we thought we would catch wrinkles. I know.
01:22:02
Speaker
Gus is like the... An awful version of himself. Yes. Totally. And like the way he's like... We didn't like how you hung out with your dad all the time.
01:22:16
Speaker
Yes. Like all the time. As in when? When else did you see Sean with his dad? You haven't. It's so strange. Also, how did you even know that that was his dad?
01:22:29
Speaker
Only Gus knows that that's his dad. Yeah, the whole thing is is kind of bizarre. But you can definitely tell that Gus is being like... yeah He's drinking the Kool-Aid.
01:22:40
Speaker
Oh, yeah. Kind of a thing. I'm really trying to win over Berlinda. Yes. You know, this is a lesson that he may never learn. But it's, you know, it's not going to last if you have to be someone you're not.
01:22:55
Speaker
Totally. Totally, totally. And especially if the main crux of this is that you have to be a model. Yeah. It's not going to last forever. i mean, maybe he just wants to hook up with her and then yeah then it would be okay but maybe i would hope not for gus but you know who knows but henry wants some more lady advice we keep coming back to making sean very uncomfortable and i pulled two lines out of this that i thought were really interesting sean uh henry said that he wants simple assist on dating protocol
01:23:33
Speaker
Oh my God. Back the. So funny. I didn't even catch that. To the like cop speak. yeah Yeah. He like has just like you're saying he's clueless. He just has no idea what to do.
01:23:45
Speaker
And Sean essentially sets his boundary and says we're not talking about this. I am proud of the fact that I've never been in therapy. Which is such a funny line. i Yes. I. Thank you. So Sean, I guess.
01:23:57
Speaker
I know. No, literally, exactly. That's exactly what I was thinking. I was like, Sean, what? We all need a little bit of therapy. Maybe you should go to therapy, Sean. That would actually be very helpful. But maybe we have to remind ourselves that this is 2008.
01:24:09
Speaker
It is 2008. Also, though, his mom is psychiatrist or psychologist. So that's a really interesting thing, too. Like, maybe that's what he... Like, maybe because...
01:24:21
Speaker
she that's her work maybe he thinks of it in a context where like that is for not just other people but for people doing like way different things than does even though now he is in the line of work that she would have been Like doing psyche evals for people who do the work that he does.
01:24:41
Speaker
Yeah. Well, so that's a great question. Yeah. What does he think of when he thinks of therapy? Because if his only frame of reference is psyche evals, then yeah, that's like a serious thing that you don't want.
01:24:53
Speaker
Theoretically. to be having to do, right? For someone to be like, you're not competent to do what you're currently doing or you are extremely mentally ill or whatever it might be. Yeah. Or it's like you went through something really traumatic, which like from his perspective, he has not...
01:25:08
Speaker
Right. But that's not what therapy always is. It is often just talking about your life and working there yes working through things that have happened.
01:25:22
Speaker
Because it's always good to have a trained, professional third-party opinion. um And oftentimes, they would likely point out things that maybe Sean doesn't want to hear but needs to hear.
01:25:38
Speaker
Yeah, he really might benefit. think he would. I think they all would. Honestly. Yeah. Everyone yeah in this show would really benefit from some therapy.
01:25:50
Speaker
But in in talking to Henry, Sean ends up missing the limo. Mm-hmm. And therefore, oh, and Gus won't tell him where they're going. So he ends up following Emily, which o yeah yeah I thought that this was also cute.
01:26:07
Speaker
um And I don't know if it was meant to read as like kind of flirty, but I took the two of them as kind of cute and flirty. You know, that's funny that you say that because I have never taken it that way, but only in this last watch at the very last scene when he says, I'll come back later. And she says, I like that. I was like, oh, interesting. Like, is this like a romantic scene?
01:26:27
Speaker
thing yeah yeah yeah i always thought just because she's like really giggly and like she's pretty um like forthcoming about like sharing stuff i don't know she seems like oh yeah you seem sweet but we gained some valuable information here by Meaton Emily, we see that she has a bunch of sketches of different designs that she has apparently, this confused me, never shown anyone before.
01:27:07
Speaker
But then later on, we end up seeing the designs turned into clothing. So if... If what we eventually end up finding out in episodes that Gregor and Chaubella have been stealing her designs, so she obviously would have noticed this, right?
01:27:24
Speaker
I think she definitely knew that they were doing that. And I think that was maybe part of, maybe she just thought that's just what happens. You know, kind of like what, like the idea of like having to pay her dues, like,
01:27:35
Speaker
ah someone more powerful taking credit for what you have done she may just think that's just part of what you know her making it yeah yeah level eventually okay so her saying that she's like never shared the designs maybe just means she's never shared them like outside of this working relationship. I'm guessing. Yeah. She like anyone, but not counting them.
01:28:00
Speaker
Okay. Those was two people. Yeah. Cause I feel like especially that, like I could guess in, other fields you know maybe you could kind of hide it but if you walk into a store and see your clothes you designed on the rack like that's kind of yeah no i think she for sure knew okay okay okay that makes sense then oh and she's working like these really late hours she said she just finished her lunch and it's like 9 p.m this poor girl yeah she is really paying her dues yeah she's definitely on motive
01:28:37
Speaker
Yeah, and opportunity. And means. yeah Yeah, she had it all, really. yeah um But we find out later on that she didn't actually do it.
01:28:50
Speaker
Which, good for her, that she's a genuinely nice person. She is. I have some... What happens next? Because the next thing I have written here is, don't be surprised if your pillow smells faintly of my butt.
01:29:04
Speaker
Yeah. I think, yeah oh, Sean goes home to the loft. Okay. And that's when we get like him sad in bed in the clap off.
01:29:16
Speaker
i Yes. Oh, oh, oh. Yes. And, okay. So we had a note made at the beginning, closer at beginning of the episode when we first got to the loft, that Gus was going to take the window bed.
01:29:30
Speaker
o And Sean is on the phone to Gus, leaving him a message. So he does have a phone. And he says, essentially, don't be surprised if your pillow smells faintly of my butt.
01:29:43
Speaker
And I'm taking the window bed. But then he falls asleep in the bed by the closet. And I was like, Sean, you're mad at him, but you're not that mad at him?
01:29:56
Speaker
Oh, I didn't even realize that. was like, that's kind of sweet. Oh, Sean. He's a big softie. He is. Especially when it comes to ghosts. Okay, so then Sean gets up and he's got like bed head and in his jammies and he walks out and everybody looks beautiful and put together and he's like, what did you guys wake up at dawn?
01:30:17
Speaker
And then Haas and Pfeffer is like, we got up five minutes ago. Yeah, his accent, we got up five minutes ago. Like, it's so...
01:30:30
Speaker
He's a very like stereotypical German. Oh, is that what he is? I didn't know where he was supposed be from. was just like, this is fantastic. I was just wondering.
01:30:44
Speaker
Yes. And then Gus said something, but what I have is Sean saying, sweet, let's call it the chief and get paid. Because gus has he's really frustrated with Gus not working on the case, which is like a fun thing because like Gus is usually the one that's like worried about money and stuff but Sean again is part of his tantrum is like I'm the only one who cares about this yes yes totally and well and he I think Gus tells Sean that at some point before they go to the funeral that Chau Bella suspected one of the models of or Gregor of cheating on her with one of the models
01:31:26
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. I think Sean asks if he if he learned anything while he was out. and And first he's like, I remember Linda did something. yeah yeah And that's what Sean's like, great.
01:31:37
Speaker
Let's call it. yes and get paid um yes okay so now we know that gregor was having an affair yes and this is when we meet sigrid which i always thought her name was secret oh my god said it weird but then i looked in and it's that would be funny s-i-g-r-i-d model name Yeah, right?
01:32:00
Speaker
And very fitting for this episode. yeah um And Berlinda asks her if she's going to go with them to the funeral and she said, I would rather eat my own earlobes than spend another hour with you callous monsters.
01:32:17
Speaker
And this, she, this is a little sidebar, but this actress comes back for Cloudy with a Chance of Murder 2.0 remake or whatever it's called.
01:32:29
Speaker
Oh, is she the secretary? Yes. Oh my gosh. I didn't realize that was her. Yeah. guess without all the black eyeliner. Yeah. Yeah. Playing a very different character. But I feel like that says she must have a great time.
01:32:43
Speaker
Yeah, totally. They have been buds. And then because we'll have to point out the different people who come back because they bring back a lot of people. They do. From various episodes for that. Yeah.
01:32:56
Speaker
Yes. So that's her. Oh, and then we have... They're going to head to the funeral and then we have Jules going to question Emily.
01:33:10
Speaker
I think so. Wait, no, I missed i missed the funeral. i think i have I have a note about her being Saudi with a chance of murder after the at the end of the funeral. So, we have backwards.
01:33:21
Speaker
Rewind, rewind. Yeah, so they they get to this funeral that seems very... um
01:33:30
Speaker
put together, I'm going to say. Not that funerals aren't put together, but like everything is black. The chairs are black. it'll trust in black like It's very like aesthetically very aesthetic. the word I'm looking for. Thank you.
01:33:43
Speaker
and um every you know It's an open casket, which you know wouldn't personally be my choice, but is someone else's choice that's fine and um the models are walking past the open casket saying honestly some really horrible things yeah nobody liked this guy it's like and at his funeral like people can hear you you know this right like but it seems like this is the culture that they're in like everybody knows it's like i know like what what did i didn't write down what hassanfeffer said but it was so ridiculous he's like on the phone oh oh go ahead
01:34:21
Speaker
I am the one who peed in the jacuzzi or the hot tub. Whatever he said. And then he boops him on the nose. I'm like, oh, gosh, no. That was so funny. Yeah. And what does Gus say? You reap what you sow. Yeah. It's so ridiculous. It's so funny because Gus is so in character.
01:34:40
Speaker
Yes. And then like doesn't know. And that's what Sean's like. You don't even know him. Yeah.
01:34:47
Speaker
Yeah. it Yeah. But you're right. He is. He's so stuck in like this model mind. Yeah. He's just doing what everyone else is doing. And I also thought, do you know what the culture is surrounding wearing black to funeral? Like, is it a strict wear black to funerals or is it kind of like a case by case basis? I think it really depends.
01:35:09
Speaker
Okay. I think usually people will say. okay. Because some people... like, you know, maybe want you to wear, like, different colors, like, because they were really happy person or something. Like, I don't know I think it really does.
01:35:24
Speaker
Okay, just, I was thinking, Gus came across the, was going to say the stage, I don't know what you would call it, but he came across, talked to Ube Shtib, and he's wearing this, like, bright blue shirt, and I was like, is that a statement of some kind? i don't know.
01:35:36
Speaker
But if that's, like, a not not a hard and fast rule, then that is fine. So they walk off the stage, and
01:35:46
Speaker
Sean is talking to Gus and notices that Sigrid is coming across the stage and in her hand is holding a love note that she gives to Gregor. So Sean figures out Sigrid was the mistress and he starts dancing and Sean goes, and Gus goes, you can't dance at a funeral, Sean. And Sean goes, suddenly you're the arbiter of good taste.
01:36:08
Speaker
It's fair point. The two of you together are not the arbiters of good taste. um But he, you know, tries to play it cool. And they go and and take their seats and Jules and Lassie are there, obviously, because of somewhat suspicious death.
01:36:22
Speaker
Yeah, because Sean, like, wants to do something, right? And then Gus, like, won't let him and Sean's like, fine, I'll call Jules. Yeah, I think he maybe just wants to, like, intervene or, like, interview. I don't think he says anything right then, but yeah, he...
01:36:43
Speaker
He wants to get the ball rolling. Yeah. And Gus's main thing, feel like the whole time, is that he does not want Sean to break their cover. Yeah. Of course not, because then he's going to break with Berlinda. Yeah, exactly.
01:36:56
Speaker
This lie. And then Chau Bella gets up there and gives her big speech and turns around, says her last goodbye to our main man, Gregor, gives him a kiss on the lips, which I was also like, I guess people grieve in their own ways, but that strikes me as a little icky.
01:37:18
Speaker
um Yeah.
Fashion Show Drama & Personal Growth
01:37:20
Speaker
And then she dies right there. yeah her body goes limp hanging off the casket. i Yeah, what a i don't want to say like what perfect timing.
01:37:34
Speaker
But in a way. But in a way, yeah, to just go limp right there on the on the body especially when we later on find out why it's like very very fitting that the two of them are here together you know Romeo and Juliet yep yeah um yeah a much more sinister version very yes very sinister
01:38:00
Speaker
And then they, oh oh, oh, yes. So Sean must tell Jules about Sigrid because then they interview her down at the station. And she confesses to the fact that she was the mistress, that she misses Gregor, that he wouldn't even let her drink from the same glass, that comparing her and Ciao Bella was like comparing Cleopatra to Miss Cleo.
01:38:25
Speaker
And then she says Emily Bloom is the one that you should be looking at. She's the next in line. Now she soul control. Now that Chabella is dead.
01:38:36
Speaker
Yes. They treat her like an assistant. She's the vice president. They just treat her like an assistant. Something to that effect. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, ah she calls out Lasseter for his wearing the same suit.
01:38:50
Speaker
Oh, my gosh. and And her reaction is, like, completely appalled. It's the same suit. I get a more than one wear a suit in a work week. It's the same time.
01:39:01
Speaker
She's, like, thoroughly disgusted. Which, I mean... Like, I could understand... Okay, how do I explain this?
01:39:13
Speaker
Clothes that are, like, touching your body? h That makes sense to me, because, like, you get sweat and, like, you know, stank and stuff on it. But, like, a over, like, a jacket? Like, I feel like you could wear that twice. A tie? Like, you could wear that twice. It's not even touching your neck.
01:39:28
Speaker
Yeah, I feel like her point is not about, like, the the the hygiene or anything, but more just, like, mix it up man yeah yeah yeah like put a little effort in h that's fair that's fair yeah i guess especially to people who take such pride in the appearance exactly yeah it would be silly to wear the same thing not only twice in a week but two days in a row Then we go to the piece de resistance, the birth of a friendship.
01:40:00
Speaker
Yes. Down at Chow, we get a very devil wears Prada walking through the hallways kind of shot, which I loved. You hear all the like, you know, dance music in the background. She's got her headpiece on. She's signing things.
01:40:15
Speaker
um And Jules so is obviously there along with Emily as she's doing all these things, trying to talk to her in a more... I guess, professional location or a more secluded location, maybe.
01:40:28
Speaker
Yeah. And Emily's making all these big changes to Chow, which I thought was actually really cool that she, you know, gets right in the position and she was just like, let's go, let's do it. Take away animal testing.
01:40:43
Speaker
Let's go sustainable. Yeah. But from like Jules and Lassie's perspective, that makes it look like she's been planning this for a long time. Of course, yeah. Like there was a real motive behind killing the two of them.
01:40:56
Speaker
And again, we we spoke about how she had the means, the motive, and the opportunity to kill them. But it really seems like through this whole interaction that Jules and Emily are having, that Emily is just this really so sweet lady. And Jules will say that later on.
01:41:16
Speaker
And they seem to kind of hit it off really quick. Yeah, she's seen. Yeah. And I think that's what Jules kind of takes away from all is that all of this is that Emily just is ah really nice person.
01:41:28
Speaker
And that is definitely ah conflicting or a difficult thing to deal with when she's in the middle of a murder investigation. Yeah, literally in the very middle of the whole thing.
01:41:40
Speaker
And then we get our little pieces of wisdom from Emily to Jules saying, you know, there's no reason you can't dress to a rest, is there? And I love the little, like, posturing that Jules does after this where she's like, hmm.
01:41:56
Speaker
She, like, puts her shoulders back a little bit. She's like, yeah. Yeah. Yeah, the way it, like, affects everybody it' so it's, like, subtle kind of, but, um yeah. And it is fun because, like, Jules,
01:42:10
Speaker
Because that could be, you know, sexist too. Sure. To like,
01:42:19
Speaker
think that Jules has to present herself any kind of way just because she's a woman or whatever. but um But you can tell the way they, like, the way this goes. It's like Jules wants to present herself in a certain way.
01:42:37
Speaker
And like, Emily is kind of like... reminding her or telling her like that she can and showing her that like she could kind of like even with Lasseter and his tie it's like even just a little effort can make her feel more herself or more yeah like um however she wants to feel, whether that's more feminine or or more sexy or whatever in out in the world, which, like, you know, valid wants.
01:43:08
Speaker
Yeah. So, yeah, it's kind fun. I like that this episode seems to really have an impact on them, especially because i think a lot of times fashion can be looked at as a very like vapid, unnecessary um thing for people to be interested in or for people to be I don't want to say like obsessed with, but involved in, you know, there's like so many other things going on in the world. Why do you have to care about, you know, how you're dressing or whatever.
01:43:40
Speaker
But i think what this episode, like you just said, shows us more than anything else is that it can change like how you feel. And in doing that, it can help you in whatever it is you're doing, whether that's policing or whether that's modeling or Henry turtle necking his neck, you know, whatever. Yeah.
01:44:00
Speaker
I didn't think about that in the context of fashion, but yeah. Well, I think in that point it was function, but yeah. Yes. well With also fashion.
01:44:11
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. There's that. I mean, of course, like anything, there's there's nuance. like Yeah. I mean, like we also see some of the darker sides of fashion and modeling in this episode with like um the eating disorders and like there's several like comments and jokes about that.
01:44:30
Speaker
So like that kind of thing. But yeah, just the idea of like dressing to express yourself and and that's part of what emily is trying to change too with chow she's like we want real real figures real whatever like yeah um so like all those little little things yeah and like and the the ethics of the production supply chain and stuff like she is trying to make a difference from an from like an industry perspective which is is cool to have that yeah introduced into an episode about or featuring a lot of characters who kind of represent this like more familiar older version of fashion
01:45:12
Speaker
Yeah, and I wonder how common those conversations were that point in time. That's a good point. Almost 20 years ago now, 17 years ago, was sustainability in fashion and lack of animal testing, were those commonplace? I feel like they're pretty commonplace now to discuss, but I don't know.
01:45:37
Speaker
Well, I mean, in some ways... I don't know. at all it There's like ups and downs because like like fur, for example, I think around this time would have been like we were like done with it.
01:45:52
Speaker
And it was like very like not like a lot of brands weren't going to use anymore because the public didn't sure agree with it anymore.
01:46:03
Speaker
But then now feel like you are starting to see like leathers and stuff coming back in um Because it's almost like the public pressure hit like a fever pitch and now it's like it turns on itself.
01:46:19
Speaker
And like suddenly like people think like it maybe it's more sustainable to have like wools and leathers, which I would disagree.
01:46:31
Speaker
But um so I don't think it was... not like those conversations weren't happening maybe like in terms of like production like the what she's trying to do there and also i think the um like the kinds of models she wants to have and like the kinds of sizes she wants to have I feel like that was very much not um yeah as as talked about like and I think we talked about before for something like the way the two thousand s were like yes skinny thinness was like a big yes yes yes part of the aesthetics like i cannot remember me either but we definitely did i yeah remember that conversation maybe was the weight guessing moment oh yes could be that would make sense
01:47:22
Speaker
Yeah. Because now we have a lot of ethical brands like we do, but also we have like a ton of overconsumption and like fast fashion is a huge problem in a way that like, I mean, not, it probably wasn't the time because we didn't have like.
01:47:38
Speaker
you know you couldn't order something and get it the next day and yeah the access was just yeah yeah um so yeah and the and like influencers and like unboxing videos and all of that kind of stuff which adds to that culture like yes um so in in ways like there are things that are better now but there are also things that are worse sure so
01:48:01
Speaker
But yeah, okay, so that makes sense. So maybe some of this was a little, like, new agey. Yeah. But this wasn't, like, completely out of left field for a company at this point in time.
01:48:14
Speaker
And then we get the, what I, in my brain, have ah tokened the early 2000s telephone, telephone game. Mm-hmm.
01:48:25
Speaker
which is where henry and vic are talking to each other ed and then sue calls vic and then henry calls sean and then they're all talking to each other and then so fun so cute like we have call waiting yeah i mean and you say like 2000s i'm also thinking like it's similar to something in when harry met sally which is 89 um oh where like harry and sally are talking to each of their best friends who are in the same place. And then like, they've got like split screens and they're talking.
01:48:57
Speaker
but oh well, in a different point in that movie, they have split screen with each other, but it it does remind me of that scene too. Cause they're like calling their friends to talk about what they just did together. Yeah. Each other. And ah so, um, yeah, I mean, it is, it's a great, um,
01:49:18
Speaker
convention for this kind of like gossipy like yeah relationship stuff yes i thought it was very cute and vic being like super disappointed in the beginning and then at the end being like he called her like everything's okay now i thought was so cute so funny and then like you said she like changes immediately and it's like now go get me a murderer yeah yeah so sweet
01:49:46
Speaker
And then the music for that was really funny too. Yes, it was. And maybe that's like circus music or something. Yeah. Yeah. yeah It was the whole thing was really great. Yeah. Like elevator kind type music. Yeah. Yeah. yeah Oh, and there was that line where like Henry's like, should I take her to this or this? And like the crab check, like that kind of thing. Like Henry places.
01:50:11
Speaker
And John's like, those can't possibly be real places. Yeah. And to be fair, when we go there, I'm also like, this this can't possibly be real. Like, what is happening right now? But yeah, they are they are legit. Both, both very ah nautical.
01:50:27
Speaker
Yes. Choices. Yeah. Fishermanly. Yeah. c yeah And, you know, Henry-esque. Makes sense that he would pick somewhere where he's kind of comfortable. Mm-hmm.
01:50:41
Speaker
Oh, this is also after. We didn't talk about the... um Oh, was it then? No, it's after. Never mind. Ignore me. Hold on. We'll go back to it. I was going to say another one of Sean's piece of advice, but that's later on. um Yeah, so then we're back at the office. Our first look into the office this episode.
01:51:02
Speaker
And Gus is oiling his head with some lavender. Because Berlinda likes her men to shine. my gosh. And he's wearing a very familiar shirt to Sean.
01:51:17
Speaker
Yes. Because it was actually one of Emily's designs, but Gus quotes it as and Gregor Uvestib from the new Fall Line and This is starting to click all of the pieces together for Sean.
01:51:34
Speaker
Clearly, there's been some stealing afoot okay on the part of Gregor and c Chao Bella. But he still doesn't have it completely solved. He just realizes that, you know, we're a little bit more intertwined than maybe we once realized.
01:51:50
Speaker
And she's got some more
01:51:55
Speaker
motive. Although, I feel like he hasn't even been really
01:52:01
Speaker
thought of it like that yet no she's just got a little more explaining to do and then we go on the date
01:52:13
Speaker
yes um and my my line or my note for that scene is henry at dinner laughing face well and we we kind of we kind of go there and we come we go yes away and back several times and there's like more phone calls and stuff so the phone calls do some fun work in this episode too of like moving between places um excuse me sorry yeah yeah how do we begin because then
01:52:48
Speaker
So they are sat down in a booth at one of the prospective crab shacks. And we have Susan, this time with her hair down, but still in one of her sweaters.
01:53:04
Speaker
And Henry's on the other side, just being in Henry. And they're are they looking at the menu? Have they ordered yet? I don't think they have. I don't think they've ordered yet.
01:53:15
Speaker
And she just starts laying it on. Yeah. she Does she pull out the six pack? yeah Yeah. She oh pulls out the six pack. She pulls off her sweater to have this like bustier.
01:53:28
Speaker
Yes. On. And Henry is like very quickly like, whoa, 360, 180, whatever the term is, what happened? And then we jump away.
01:53:42
Speaker
Yes. To Jules in the station, looking like a cutie. Well, and Carlton with his tie supply bag. Tie supply. Oh my God. Yeah. Tie supply. Yeah. Now he's got a nice blue tie.
01:53:54
Speaker
And Jules in police officer chic. Looking very cute.
01:54:03
Speaker
And she makes a comment about how she's a woman and a cop. She's not going to, you know, deny it anymore or something along those lines. going to dress like one.
01:54:14
Speaker
Yes. Yeah, because Vic is like, what? Which fair? And then, and Lassie's like, you can't do that, O'Hara. And then Jill's like, is that a new tie? And then Vic is like, is all of this in service to something? Sure.
01:54:29
Speaker
That's such a great one. What is happening? we just wanted to do this right now. I do love that she was like, this on my lunch break. It's okay. Yeah. Yeah. paid for myself. Yes. Not wasting police department resources.
01:54:43
Speaker
And then we jump back to, oh oh no, no, no. Then.
01:54:51
Speaker
Wait, no, something happens in there with the steak. Do remember this? Oh. Something happened. They get their food. Henry and Sue get their food. Henry's eating something. Sue's eating steak.
01:55:03
Speaker
She cuts her steak. She like leans across the table to give him steak. And she eats his fry out of his hand. Oh my God. Yeah. Yes. Again, just let butter in butter in the biscuit thick thick thick yeah she says you want me to butter your biscuit yes and he's like what yeah what's happening right now and then and she asks him like why he retired he seems pretty young And she's like, did you take a slug?
01:55:29
Speaker
Or are you just tired of being good all the time? Yeah, yeah. And he's like, he's like a deer in the headlights. There's not know what to do with this woman. I think he was just like, well, I mean, and tell me your take.
01:55:41
Speaker
But I think he was just kind of like smacked upside the face. Like he wasn't expecting. no I mean. All of this. Yeah, he meets two different sides of her. so yeah, I don't think, I mean, he's like kind of.
01:55:53
Speaker
He wasn't sure about her to begin with. Yes. And then he's kind of taken another chance here. And now she's so different than she was. And he didn't know. and feel like he doesn't know what he wants, but he also doesn't know.
01:56:07
Speaker
Like, like he doesn't know. how she would need to be different to like be appealing to him. He doesn't know what he should want or what he does want. Yes.
01:56:18
Speaker
He still doesn't know the procedure. Yes. He doesn't know the protocol here. He just wants to know what's going on. So like now he's like, whoa. And um he's, i mean, he's definitely attracted to her. Yeah. And so I think that's, and maybe that's like surprising too to him. Yeah. You know, like not something he has felt in a long time. Sure.
01:56:38
Speaker
And he's probably not used to like, just someone coming on so strongly to him sure sure
Solving the Murder Mystery
01:56:45
Speaker
so yeah he's just kind of got his head spinning yeah you can tell he needs like breathing room yes because he drops the fork and he's like i'm gonna i'm gonna get my phone i'm gonna and then this is when he calls sean and it sounds like he's reaching out to sean again for more advice but he ends up just saying the best line she's this carnivorous mink and then she comes out of nowhere
01:57:11
Speaker
grabs him and then that's all we get into last scene in the bathroom yeah yeah presumably and then and then sean hangs and he's like that was weird that was weird um And they are arriving at Chow, right?
01:57:28
Speaker
Yes, yes. They're going to go get Emily Bloom because now we have all this information. Oh yeah, that's what they were talking about with Vic. ah She's just got a lot of motive. But Jules really would bet the farm that she didn't do it.
01:57:41
Speaker
Oh, Oh, and um they the tox screen came back and the ah poison was in the protein powder or superfood powder, which Sean had previously seen Emily handing Chaubella a poisoned smoothie. So yes Sean's like, well, not looking good.
01:58:03
Speaker
I think you lost the farm on this one, Jules. Yes. And so, yeah, so we go to Chow Bella and it again seems like the middle of the night. I feel like most of this is taking place at night. Yeah, true. Yeah, well, Henry's out to dinner, so it must be. Oh, true. Yeah.
01:58:18
Speaker
There you go. And we get to like a production area and Emily is passed out or she looks like she's dead. Really? She does. At the sewing machine. She looks so dead that they don't even check if she's dead. Yeah, they don't even check That's a great point. They're like, well,
01:58:34
Speaker
ah yeah Yeah, two have already dropped, I guess, is the third. But she's, like, you know rigid and like, head back. is It is a really funny, like, TV moment because so good that is the twist that it would be. It's like, oh, this person who they thought did it right wound up dead. And so it kind of makes sense that, like, they don't even need to check because plot-wise, that's what happens next. Right, of course. And She's like... And they have this just...
01:59:01
Speaker
beautiful group scare yeah the gasps from everyone beautiful there is and it's fun because like we don't get to see all five of them together all the time but like it's so true when we do it's always just like a fun shot kind of like them walking into the to go meet um that that fake that other psychic lady and and the guy at the home depot like when we see them all walking down the street together and it's like oh yeah it is it's very the it's very cute bea She's alive somehow.
01:59:34
Speaker
yeah And they get her to the hospital. It was kind of ah you know nice to see them after they all go, like they all kind of spring into action after that, which is kind of also sweet. But they bring Emily to the hospital. They pump her stomach. She's okay, seemingly.
01:59:47
Speaker
And Sean is at her bedside and she's like, Black, what are you doing here? I forgot until like later that she didn't know who he was. He's like, what's going on?
01:59:58
Speaker
Not like he's like starts to maybe like kind of explain. He's like, I'll come back a later. Yeah. I got it. I'm ready to go. Yeah. And he. So, so hold on. So, yeah, so he he starts talking to her and he realizes something's amiss.
02:00:13
Speaker
it Oh, is it? Oh. Oh, is it that she mentions that she had one of the smoothies? Yeah, she had the smoothie. Okay. that says she, yeah, she didn't know it was poison because she would have drank it herself.
02:00:25
Speaker
Right. Which then causes some confusion. So Sean's like, okay, I'm getting more of the puzzle, figuring it out. And then he, they go to, don't know, some other party?
02:00:41
Speaker
Yeah, good question. know Oh, this is the actual reveal of the line, I think. This is maybe, and a memorial. Wait, maybe it's just a memorial? Because there's like a shot a slideshow going on talking about them. Maybe it's just a memorial.
02:00:57
Speaker
Okay, we're going to call it a memorial. Yeah. They go to a memorial. It's a fashion memorial. so It is. It's still a party. Of course. And I love Sean's look for this.
02:01:08
Speaker
Yes, it is so great. Like a silky white button up open over it. Yeah, it is good. The the motion of it, the flow of it is very good for when we get on stage.
02:01:19
Speaker
Yeah, so we get back to the original location where they were doing the reveal or whatever they were doing. Now they're doing some form of memorial. And again, we have the projector playing.
02:01:31
Speaker
And in the background, we hear a couple of like interesting things that, you know, Chow Bella designed this beautiful gown of lights that this day in particular marks their 10 year anniversary. We're like, oh my gosh.
02:01:42
Speaker
And Sean slowly starts to piece all love like, cause he's like, I know. yeah I know it. I could, I could totally go up there. yeah Yeah, bargaining.
02:01:54
Speaker
You cannot go up there and start winging it. That's not how we operate. And Sean's like, dude, where have you been the last two years? but Yeah, yeah. Literally, what are you talking about? I love this, like, because I don't know that we've really seen it quite this way, where Sean is just like, really wants to get up there. And yeah like he's like, if I start talking, I'll figure it out. Like, he doesn't know it yet, but he's got some of it.
02:02:16
Speaker
I definitely know two thirds of it. Yeah. Yeah. and you like um yeah I think that's like maybe the common law thing like he it's yes he's seen together yeah and then and then he sees the lights thing yes and that's what cues him to the electrical wiring yeah And is that when he's like, oh my god, this is a doozy. that Oh, and Lasseter and Jules arrive too, and they're like, why are we here?
02:02:43
Speaker
yeah Because he must have called them. Assuming he will solve it. Yeah, of course. Where else would he solve it? He needs a crowd, you know. Yes.
02:02:55
Speaker
He gets up song gets up on stage and he he starts his nut shelling. ah Possibly one of the best nut shellings we've gotten because we get yeah glorious model. He calls it later the most stylish wrap up ever, which so true. think so Yes.
02:03:06
Speaker
He looks very model-esque. Yes. I'm just reading like the quotes I have. But I'm really not black. And i'm not a model.
02:03:18
Speaker
Yeah, I know this might be something hard for you to believe, but I'm not really black. ah and i'm not really model my partner and i are psychic detectives or something and then gus is out there like oh no and verlin is like you're not models not yeah gus is like well i only i'm only a detective part-time my real name is tengus tengus yeah and sean ends up revealing that They killed each other, essentially. Gregor has been poisoning the superfood smoothies, but Chow Bella is bulimic, so she would not get all of the nutrients and or poison from the superfood smoothie, so it took a longer time for her to die.
02:04:02
Speaker
And Chow Bella rigged the electrical wiring on the mic stand in the very beginning to kill Gregor. The whole reason they did this is because their 10-year anniversary in California would mean that they'd have to split the company down the middle 50-50, and neither one of them wanted to share.
02:04:21
Speaker
Yep. At some point during this Lassie interrupts, I forget what he says. But Sean's like, do I come out of your office and bother you while you're working?
02:04:32
Speaker
Yeah. All the time. All the time. Yep. That's fair. Sean just keeps going. I know. What even a, like, what a question for him to have. Like, what do mean, sir?
02:04:44
Speaker
um then Jules. Oh, Jules is like, oh, I think Lassie's like, what, well, what does Emily Bloom have to do with all this? And Jules is like, she was drinking this the smoothie. Yeah.
02:04:56
Speaker
And then Sean's like, really, Jules? You too. I love that That's like a recurring thing. He hates people to steal his thunder. Yeah, he needs the attention. Yeah, I love also how this nut shilling is like super dramatic, but also super anticlimactic. Because at the end, he's like, I mean guess there's no one to be arrested. what do I do with these? Yeah. Sean's like, you can put those away. but Trying to make it more than it is.
02:05:23
Speaker
lastly, I love, it's like, Could have told me that over the phone. Hell, you could have put it in an email. Yeah, but what what drama is that? need the drama. We need the gusto.
02:05:35
Speaker
I think maybe it is the fall or I keep saying fall line. Is it the fall line? I just keep saying it. The new line reveal. um I think because Gregor died, they didn't get to reveal it well last time. that makes sense. And part of Sean's like spiel is like make sure you check out the new designs or her new designs, Emily's.
02:05:59
Speaker
right to advice right right and he's like everybody deserves to feel beautiful and i love we get um like a shot of like a reaction shot of jules and lassie and jules is like just nodding a little and it's so cute it's like this really did sort of hit her you know yeah she really got something out of this totally and she really likes himaly um so i think she's happy for her It's kind of funny to think like these people all live in the same town.
02:06:28
Speaker
Yeah. I wonder like if there was a little romantic thing there with Sean and Emily, like I wonder Emily maybe backed off because of, because she also was friends with Jules.
02:06:43
Speaker
Yeah. or I would think so. Vice versa. like Yeah. It's interesting to think of like them. Yes. Continuing to live in this place. And maybe if Jules and Emily hung out at all.
02:06:59
Speaker
Yeah, I would like to think that off screen, Jules and Lassie hang out. Jules and Lassie. Jules and Emily. I'm so used to just putting them together. Yeah, right. Jules and Emily hang out all the time.
02:07:09
Speaker
Yeah. And i I would like to think that Jules like confides in Emily about her feelings for Sean and her conflicted sense of self here. and maybe that's why. It would be interesting to think like how conscious she is about any of that.
02:07:24
Speaker
Yeah. Later for sure. Yes. Yes. We'll have to see if we notice some some shifts. Shifts. Yeah. Maybe at the reunion.
02:07:35
Speaker
Oh, yes. Oh, yeah. Totally. Yeah. And then we have our final scene. The scene that we've been talking about but not talking about.
02:07:46
Speaker
Okay.
Family Dynamics & Emotional Resolution
02:07:47
Speaker
The scene. The scene. um Yes. So Henry calls Sean to the house. Yes. He is summoned. Yes. It's like a funny... Everything about it is weird. I feel like Henry makes things weird.
02:08:02
Speaker
So awkward. Because he's trying so hard. Yes. But he he's wearing his turtleneck. Yes. Which Sean finds very funny. Yes. He does look very Connery.
02:08:14
Speaker
Yes. It's like, why are you dressed like Perry Como? Which I don't know who that is, but Sean makes a lot of jokes. He does. Makes a lot of fun of him. That's funny. Which I feel like you know something's wrong.
02:08:27
Speaker
Henry's really humoring him. Yeah, he's trying to soften the blow of this. yeah he Because he when he knows he needs. I feel like that Sean, yeah. Yes. That's how he copes with this.
02:08:39
Speaker
Yes. Yeah, Sean needs a little bit of comedy, but Henry also needs to get this off his chest, which I'm sure is a very difficult balance, who especially with someone that you love so much, like your child.
02:08:59
Speaker
to say like I know you need this but also I need this and we need to kind of figure out how to mutually yeah this thing together that's got to be so tricky to navigate on top of Henry already not knowing how to navigate things yeah yeah and I feel like like him he's sort of trying to butter Sean up a little bit by like really like and you know kind of humoring him about his jokes and stuff and just kind of taking it yeah um because ah he is the butt of all of them He's wearing a turtleneck because he has hickeys. That's the yeah real thing you need to know.
02:09:35
Speaker
yeah When Sean's like, oh my God. Yeah. You have a hickey. You called me over here to show off your hickey? That's sick or something. Something like that.
02:09:46
Speaker
He's very distraught. Yeah. and Which it would be insane for Henry to do that. Like he's rubbing it in his face, which is how Sean takes it. But obviously that's not what what's happening here. Yes.
02:09:57
Speaker
Because if it was, he wouldn't be wearing the turtleneck. um But Henry clearly wants to have a conversation with Sean about the fact that he's going to be dating. And I didn't write the full line down, but I wrote the beginning.
02:10:09
Speaker
I called you over here because I don't want to feel guilty about living my life. Yeah. Oh. ah Which is exactly what you're saying. It's like... to To an extent, this is for himself. like yeah he He knows this is hard for Sean, but it's also so hard for him. and He wants Sean to know that for himself, he is going to be doing this.
02:10:31
Speaker
and yeah He doesn't want to feel guilty, which is like, wow. yeah and I have just the part written down where he talks about Sean's mom.
02:10:43
Speaker
She's not coming back. I hope she's happy. I mean that.
02:10:49
Speaker
But he like he's got to move on. and they have to move on yeah as a family. And again, this is when therapy would be so helpful. yeah Because Henry needs some like grief therapy.
02:11:04
Speaker
Sean needs some like grief therapy. But then they need some family therapy here. They need to be able to like voice how they're feeling about all this and their differences in perception. Because I feel like that's really one of the big...
02:11:17
Speaker
issues between the two of them is they just have no yeah they have no concept of how the other one sees this and even if sean's perception of what happens is inaccurate it's still his perception and still his reality and it's still reason why he's treating henry the way he's treating him so even allowing henry to hear that from sean i think earlier on at least would have been really helpful for their new budding adult relationship Yeah.
02:11:49
Speaker
And I got to wonder about the mom that she didn't like intervene more a, like a mental health professional. I know. We're goingnna have to do some real analysis of her when we get her. Yeah. Because only get her in little bits. but Yeah.
02:12:04
Speaker
feel like she's really important to all of this. Yeah. Because, I mean, we talk about how important these scenes are. And it's like, she's the third party here. like Right. but But she's never around. And we don't get to see her much. Yeah, she's never really around. We don't really know how much contact they keep.
02:12:22
Speaker
Yeah. We have to see if we can get a sense of that. Yes. When she does come. Yes. Yes. But in some ways, I feel like her lack of presence allows Sean to kind of romanticize her in a way. Totally. Totally.
02:12:37
Speaker
In a way that, like, Henry is eternally the bad guy because she's the good guy. Yes. Yeah, it's kind of like that whole like don't meet your heroes thing. Like when you have when you have an internalized image of someone, you can make it up to be something that it's not.
02:12:56
Speaker
And clearly he's met his mom, obviously. yeah But when she's gone, he can write up scenarios and in very specific ways that enforce the narrative that he already has.
02:13:08
Speaker
Yeah. And if like this original sin of like their divorce is Henry's fault, then like maybe her lack of presence and stuff is all Henry's fault too. right Like, yeah. Like, oh, she can't be here because of what he did to make her or to leave them, even though she did physically leave.
02:13:27
Speaker
Yeah. um Yeah. yeah heavy heavy stuff but that's why this it's so rich i know it's so good um you know been years talking about it and we will and we've been
02:13:47
Speaker
but then sean much to his dismay is very kind Yes. In the way that he can be, where he's, like, leaving and he's like, don't, don't wear that.
02:14:03
Speaker
Let her admire her work. Yes. And he, like, gives him some advice. I'm like, remember, you treat, that that's when the line comes back. Yes. You treat a woman like a person and then a princess and then a Greek goddess and then, and Henry he says, and then a person again.
02:14:20
Speaker
Which made me wonder, is this something Sean invented? Hmm. Because I think we thought maybe it came from Henry, like when we brought it up in the past, but I feel like it's something that came from Sean and Henry has just heard him say it.
02:14:37
Speaker
Yes. ah Which I feel like makes that more cute yeah that Henry is like, remembers this thing that Sean believes, I guess.
02:14:47
Speaker
Yes. Yes. I like that reading better that it's come from Sean and Henry is now confirming that he listens to sean and yeah his opinion yeah and also like kind of for him as we talked about for him to go to sean for this at all like sees him as an authority in this area the area of women yeah huh and that And that, yeah, that this has maybe come up before.
02:15:18
Speaker
But I wonder if it's like maybe just something almost like Henry overheard. Like, you know, like Sean was saying it to Gus or something. Yeah. Like this is never advice that Sean gave to Henry. Yeah.
02:15:29
Speaker
And maybe that also adds to like how sweet it is that like now he is. And ah do we don't get any more like heartfeltness in the next episode, right? Yeah.
02:15:43
Speaker
i don't think between them i don't remember there's much with henry in the next episode because i'm i'm just trying to think like where because the next episode's the season finale sean and gus of the dead another iconic episode is this the mummy one interesting should we watch sean of the dead oh my gosh I guess so.
02:16:08
Speaker
They're not mummies. They're zombies. They're mummies. Yeah. yeah Is there a mummy movie we should watch? Ooh. Can we watch The Mummy? The Mummy? Sure. Because I have never watched it and I know it's like a classic and I think I will really like it and and I've been meaning to for years.
02:16:22
Speaker
I think there are months multiple mummies. so Okay. The one with... them That's a good point. Okay. The Mummy. Okay. I think 99 is the one I'm thinking of.
02:16:35
Speaker
Okay. but want think there's like i That seems like the
02:16:41
Speaker
the OG, perhaps. Based on The Mummy 1932, but I don't think we need to go back that far. Oh, 32. Yeah, no. I don't think Sean would have seen that movie.
02:16:53
Speaker
Also, I don't know if we did it last time, but the murder count is currently 31 murders this season. Oh, thank you. You're welcome. We added two more murders. So 31 deaths in total for the series. 12 for the season.
02:17:09
Speaker
Did I do that math right? I did not. 31 for the series. 14 for the season. I'm just looking at the mummy. Its development began in the late 80s.
02:17:22
Speaker
So I think maybe it will have the feel of an 80s movie. Okay. Even though it didn't come out to 99. So I feel like it fits in our whole. Perfect. Our whole world. Let's do it. um Okay.
02:17:33
Speaker
Yeah. Classic episode. I feel like what a real heartfelt story of that episode has to do with Chief Vic. Wow. Yeah. So I don't. Yeah. So maybe that's a good point. Maybe in a sense, this is sort of the season finale of Henry and Sean.
02:17:49
Speaker
Yeah. And the next episode will kind of wrap everybody else up. Yeah. Yeah. And also setting them up for season two or season three. Correct. Oh, my kid. A true my kid. Had to be one. Where we really see like his mom come into the picture stuff.
02:18:07
Speaker
Yes.
02:18:10
Speaker
A lot to look forward to. Indeed. I can't believe we're already at the season two finale. I know. Me either. and this is a great one. This one's so much fun. Yeah. You get all of the iconic psych-isms in it.
02:18:24
Speaker
You get some blueberry action. you get some running away action. yeah Actually, now that you say it, I feel like it is sort of... It feels like a turn in a way.
02:18:36
Speaker
Yeah, yeah. I feel like it kind of creates... some conventions that maybe we haven't worked with as much.
02:18:47
Speaker
Yeah. And also it's our last episode on film, I think. Oh, intrigue. Okay. We're going to have to really. dive into it deep then if it's our last um last on film because we're going to get a totally different vibe season three yeah I feel like this is it's a turning point in in the feel yeah I think that groundedness that we've talked about like that's when we really start to see it change yeah and maybe having like a supernatural episode as that makes sense because that is inherently less grounded yes that's true
02:19:25
Speaker
I'm excited to watch it and watch the mummy. i haven't seen the mummy in forever. So if you want to watch both of them with us and join us back here next week, we'd love to have you where we'll be discussing season two finale.
02:19:38
Speaker
How is that possibly happening already of the fame TV show? Psych. Bye. The say six one-on-one would like to thank and credit the design efforts of Olivia Genesis, musical talents of Skane Music and Mikael Hunt, the production abilities of Kyle Dalton and Skillard Jensen, and and of course, the support of our friends and family.
02:19:58
Speaker
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