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S3E8: Two Steps Forward, One Step Back
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Series spoilers abound! We’re watching Season 3, Episode 8 “Gus Walks Into A Bank”. This marks the 6th time that Gus has been held at gun point (!) while Shawn participates in his antics. Luckily, Shawn did not make it into the bank with Gus, and he will do whatever it takes to get his best friend out unscathed. We’re talking dating, drama, instincts, air ducts, and more! So grab your pair of brown wing-tips and join Kylie and Skyler on this new episode of Phsysics 101!
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Introduction and Episode Setup
00:00:20
Speaker
All right. everyone, and welcome to Fasci6101, where we discuss everything about the world of Psyche and the antics of Sean and Gus in Sunny Santa Barbara. I'm Skylar, and this is my partner, Hans Gruber.
00:00:32
Speaker
And today we'll be discussing season three, episode eight of the famed TV show Psyche. Gus walks into a bank.
00:00:44
Speaker
Definitely one of the most iconic episodes. Absolutely. Absolutely. there the tension the concern oh my gosh yeah it's and like a really like interesting plot yes and some more like jurisdiction yes kind of thing protocol protocol yes big thing which is it's interesting because i didn't know i don't think either of us knew before watching this that it's kind of based off of a movie the episode's kind of based off of
00:01:19
Speaker
yeah afternoon yeah yeah we ended up watching so we watched diehard which we talked about we were gonna watch and i think i picked that one just thinking of like what like i think i probably thought of like iconic hostage movies or or even looked up a list yeah um but then looking at the psych wiki they mentioned there's a lot of trivia for this episode oh really
Influence of 'Dog Day Afternoon' on 'Psyche'
00:01:43
Speaker
um Okay, they say this episode takes some inspiration, which I did feel I was like, it's not like a total.
00:01:49
Speaker
No, no, no. But this is a Dog Day Afternoon episode. Yeah. Yeah. um From the 1975 crime drama Dog Day Afternoon, which is also about someone who robs a bank under pressure.
00:02:00
Speaker
And when I read that, I was expecting it to be like, I think I interpreted as like under duress. um like that it wasn't their right well because that what what's it what that's what the episode is right which right i feel like that is kind of implied i don't know i mean i mean i guess he is under duress but it's not he's not being coerced into doing it he should but i mean the only pressure he's under is the fact that he's wrapping up language What's his choice? I don't know.
00:02:29
Speaker
Yeah, it's his choice, but it seems like, I don't know, there are themes throughout the movie of like he hasn't been kind of himself lately. He's been like extra intense. Yeah. He's trying to do this to help his wife.
00:02:43
Speaker
I did feel, and I was looking, what Shaft was like 1972.
00:02:49
Speaker
Was it just 1970 or 71? Yeah, around then, I think early. yeah And so this is 75 and they're both in New York. And I felt like it was a similar in terms of like sociopolitical yes like setting.
00:03:04
Speaker
yeah um I felt like this character also... was like, like there's a theme of, um you know, nobody has enough money to live.
00:03:15
Speaker
And like everybody kind of sympathizes with him. He becomes like a folk hero. yeah And um so definitely, I guess in that sense, he's under pressure because he can't get by.
00:03:30
Speaker
Yeah, I thought it was a lot of people. So interesting in in this movie, Dog Day Afternoon, which is based off of a real life event that happened in New York, which I was like, what? They said that at the beginning. And I was like, is this just part of the movie? Like they're trying to make it seem like. But no, like I looked it up. It's actually based off a real thing.
00:03:48
Speaker
Yeah. was like, that's crazy. But the fact that one of the things that really was kind of shocking to me was. that there were all these people, just everyday, regular people, like behind the police barricades, like cheering him on, cheering Sonny on, the main character, and like encouraging yeah what was happening here.
00:04:08
Speaker
And part of me at first was like, okay, is it just that it's like the 70s and there's nothing to do and this is exciting, so everyone's like, let's go watch? Is it this social, political, socioeconomic...
00:04:21
Speaker
instance of New York in the 70s, which is very different than New York today. like this i it was just very kind of shocking to me. Yeah. Well, I do feel like, I mean, I don't know.
00:04:36
Speaker
It was definitely like, I feel like Die Hard was more like obviously like a fun movie. Yes. Yeah, Die Hard was really fun. I was expecting – don't know what I was expecting.
00:04:48
Speaker
I think I was expecting a little more of like an action-packed thing. Yeah. I don't – I don't really think – I don't think I've seen a lot of Al Pacino movies, but my sort of cultural knowledge of him, I feel like I put him with like Stallone and like all these figures of like yeah yeah classic action people, which I don't know if if that's even accurate.
00:05:09
Speaker
um But I just think of him in that era of men. Sure. And so I was like not really expecting like a very like subtle – thinking movie. Oh yeah it definitely was. um But I do feel...
00:05:27
Speaker
like more than anything it was about like that tension between the public and the police and there was um the they had that moment where they chanted about um a prison riot they were chanting like attica which i read in the wikipedia was like yes recent to the time and like was like a very intense like prison riot and then like the suppression of that riot was like an extreme use of force where they killed many like 40 prisoners over 40 prisoners and um other guards and civilians like all by all except for one was killed by law enforcement so it was like just like very tense time yeah in terms of like that dynamic between people
00:06:17
Speaker
Everyday people and um the authorities. And yeah, I feel like you could really feel oh yeah that. And it was also another thing I looked up was like.
00:06:28
Speaker
um the history of like hostage negotiation because our first guy, the detective who's kind of running things sort of, seems really kind of out of his depth.
00:06:43
Speaker
In Dog Day Afternoon? Yeah. Yeah, he He doesn't really have like a handle. I mean, he even says like there's lack of communication out here. like He says it several times. Yeah. It just seems like chaos.
00:06:54
Speaker
um And he's yelling. It's very... is it's very Like stressful to watch. Yes. Like nobody seems in control in the way like, you know, in psych, you know, that guy walks in and he's got all the swagger and he's like, I am a proof of this.
00:07:08
Speaker
So don't even worry about it. Nobody. I mean, when the FBI comes in later, it they definitely feel more like calm and like they've done this before. But. But i when I was looking that up, um like the principles of hostage negotiation that I guess they still adhere to were like established in like 1971. So it was quite new.
00:07:31
Speaker
yeah. Like yeah the concept of that. So I could see these, this detective and these, you know, maybe the local, mean, it's still the NYPD, very big police force, but the more local please maybe not having that kind of experience and being out of their depth.
00:07:51
Speaker
um Yeah. so yeah, it was it was just like really interesting. And I feel like watching it now, I don't know what the lesson would have been then. more i feel like it's more just like a snapshot of a moment. Yes. Yes. But it did make me feel like the tensions and like that the struggles that we continue to have and see play out
Themes and Parallels in Storytelling
00:08:13
Speaker
is like, they've just been here for your yeah perpetual struggles. Yeah. yeah so yeah, that was kind of, I guess my takeaway, but it was, it was like, but it was also like funny and it was sad and it was, yeah, it was, it was, it was definitely a ah pretty heavy watch.
00:08:34
Speaker
I think it was,
00:08:37
Speaker
Yeah, it was sometimes very jarring to go from, like, this guy who is clearly out of his depth, like, didn't mean for this to turn into such a big thing, really doesn't seem like he wants to hurt anybody, like, he's letting everyone hang around. Like, it is kind of Yeah.
00:08:55
Speaker
Yeah. you know I was like trying to think of like what it really has in common with psych. And I mean, I mean, but it really, that's not even in common with psych. Cause I was thinking like the kind of relationship between the captives, the hostages yeah and the bank robbers, like we don't ever really see a rapport in psych now that I have watched that um again, but, but yeah, that's like a big part of maybe or noon I think maybe part of the, like, not really knowing what to do now that they're in this situation, i definitely think Phil is slightly derived from, like, Sonny and Sal.
00:09:35
Speaker
I could see that. Clearly not one-to-one by any means, but... Yeah, and not to jump way ahead in psych. We haven't even started. but there is that moment where they're kind of recapping what's gone down and they say like everything went south.
00:09:52
Speaker
And I'm like, what did they expect to happen? Did they just not expect a law enforcement response? I know like in Dog Day Afternoon, you know, Sonny is very knowledgeable about how banks work. And so he's like, right you know, don't take the last dollar. Don't do this. Don't do that. Because he doesn't want the alarms to go. oh and So maybe in that in psych, maybe they pat the the actual robbers i didn't expect things to be called. Well, would guess. Yes. My guess would be that the...
00:10:22
Speaker
Yeah, to spoil the whole thing, that the bank manager right was anticipating that him and Phil were going to like go to the back of the the of the vault, whatever. he was going to give him the diamonds and then Phil was going to leave.
00:10:37
Speaker
And that no one was going to notice that Phil had a gun. Cause that's really when everything starts going crazy. That's a great point. Yeah. Someone sees it screaming. She hits the thing behind the back.
00:10:48
Speaker
She really, a she, I was like, lady took a bite out of that role. She said, I am gonna. Oh, she did. And she did a great job, but I was like, and I get, I get that in the moment, like seeing a gun is terrifying. And,
00:11:01
Speaker
that is why they scream but i was also like you wouldn't think to like there's a gun we gotta get out of here like just totally also was like how would i react in that situation yes i don't know but i don't know if i would do that yeah i don't know if i would do that either yeah she's just screaming screaming so yeah i guess you're right that is when it goes south when things go very south well even because they say the um Yeah, at the end with the other guy whose name, Phelps, I think it was Phelps, he ended up getting like trapped, quote unquote, trapped as one of the hostages because he wasn't anticipating becoming more than it should have, I suppose.
00:11:43
Speaker
That is really interesting. Yeah, I wonder if they didn't plan for any kind of hostage situation. It was really going to be just like an exchange and they were going to be able to say like, oh, yeah, this guy came in. which I mean. And it would on the cameras.
00:11:55
Speaker
Although. Right. Manager did a terrible job acting. Oh my God, I know. Literally, that is all Sean needed to be like yeah him.
00:12:06
Speaker
He did it.
00:12:09
Speaker
But I mean, and even that, like that, that's also very similar to dog day afternoon, right? He he was anticipating getting in. Yeah. Taking the, what apparently is equivalent to to like a couple million dollars in today's money and getting out.
00:12:24
Speaker
But something got tripped or whatever. Who knows? Someone called the police, maybe the fire, the guy was on fire. just He set the register on fire, which I don't even really know what that is.
00:12:35
Speaker
But I didn't either. that seems be what gave it away. Yes. It seems like the smoke from setting the register on fire tipped off someone across the street that something was going on.
00:12:48
Speaker
And I was wondering, too, like... Did maybe the bank manager and this guy have like a code phrase or something? Because he he said to him outside, he's like, no, no, like it's all it's all good. I don't know though. I really felt like the bank manager was just like, I'm going to go through this. Yeah, let's just get it over with. Like I feel like he didn't really care. Like he was just like, get him in, get him out. I mean, it's not his money.
00:13:13
Speaker
No, it's true. And if anything, it seemed it really seemed like the people in the bank just wanted their people to be okay, which I think is that is a good mentality in a situation like this.
00:13:24
Speaker
um I really that. crew in there the chief clerk whatever her name was I loved her yeah she was great yeah um and yeah they' were all yeah they all really care about each other yeah um and even their their yeah their rapport with um Sonia and Sal was like there was like a sweetness to it I feel like that's what made that last moment so sad too like him just watching them walk away it was like it was all just like it was all for nothing
00:13:55
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. It was like, I mean, no, that was a bummer up but of an ending. It was, but you know, I guess it's tough when something's, uh, when something as serious as that happens, like there's going to have to be, Oh yeah.
00:14:13
Speaker
yeah Yeah. It was just like amazing. I mean, it I don't know. kind of was like, there's no winning. Yeah. There's just no winning there. Um, I mean like sympathetic to him. Yeah.
00:14:24
Speaker
There is no winning. Yeah, another – just meandering about this movie, but another thing that I was, like, not – I was, like, curious about – well, and something I saw on the Wikipedia page was, like, I love just a digest of everything that's ever been said about this movie, reviewed in the Wikipedia page, but whatever. Yes, very good. um One of the – a review, I think, referenced, like, Sal's kind of death wish, um which he did kind of say, like – we were supposed to get out clean or we were going to kill ourselves.
00:14:57
Speaker
Right. um And it kind of seemed like he was like, so let's kill ourselves. Like, I feel like that's kind of what he was saying. um And then when the FBI guy does show up and he, you know comes in and checks everything out and then pulls Sonny outside and he's like, we'll take care of Sal.
00:15:15
Speaker
And Sonny's like, what do you mean by that? Like, what was that about? That was, I mean, was he just saying like – Yeah. Will kill him? i I think so. And why? Why would he tell Sunny that?
00:15:27
Speaker
Right. So my my interpretation of that whole scene was that they... Okay. My interpretation of that was that the cops were interpreting the situation as Sal was the like violent mastermind behind all of this. And Sonny was like trying to get them all out.
00:15:52
Speaker
So because they had a rapport with Sonny, because he was the one coming outside and talking to them and trying to help the guy with diabetes and trying to let you know the guy with asthma out, it seemed more like he was not the perpetrator, maybe, like, the perpetrator.
00:16:10
Speaker
And Sal is the guy with the gun. <unk> like so He's like, Sal's going to kill someone. Like, Sal's going to do that. i don't I feel that. That makes sense. Right? And i I was wondering, too, with, like, Sal and Sal's death wish, like, they do mention a couple times that they're war vets.
00:16:24
Speaker
So I wonder if maybe they're – they clearly are dealing with a lot of, like, mental health kind of stuff. Yeah. I feel like that's another big part of just, like – The critique of the moment of just like yeah what these young men yeah are enduring.
00:16:38
Speaker
Absolutely. And then coming home and having no money and no – Correct. I mean, yeah. No support. Yeah. Yeah. And this kind of seems like the last ditch. The last ditch effort.
00:16:52
Speaker
So. Yeah. No, that makes sense. And it also kind of tracks with like how the FBI ultimately handles yes the situation, which is just to –
00:17:02
Speaker
kill Sal point blank and and arrest Sunny, which it was like,
00:17:10
Speaker
I don't know. It was interesting that that was, and I guess that's what really really happened in terms of the two real life people. So I don't know if they based it on like the real details of how that went down, but it was very like an intense moment where they, but it was, it did kind of seem like they were just like, we have to take out Sal and then, you know, whatever. And then we'll all be fine. I don't know. It was extreme. Yeah.
00:17:34
Speaker
I mean, and I guess from from their perspective, if they're hearing that, like, this is the violent guy, he's going to kill everyone, he has a death wish, like, okay, neutralize him. he can reason with Sunny, but can we reason with Sal? It seems like not. Yeah.
00:17:49
Speaker
Not to say that that should have been there their choice to just point blank kill someone, but in that situation, maybe that's what they were thinking. Yeah.
00:17:59
Speaker
But no, you're right. I mean, based on kind of the facts as they presented themselves. Another thing that I felt could was sort of reflected in the psych episode is just the, the way we move between and see outside of like the bank and just, you know, looking out and like all these, like the cavalry all being out there around,
00:18:26
Speaker
um so yeah and we did get a couple of like what felt like references or or near references to dog day afternoon like the pizza i thought even the like opening the locking and the unlocking of the door which was so like every time that happened i understand that in dog day afternoon like of course they gotta lock they gotta lock the door Unlock the door to go outside. Lock the door back because you don't want anyone come in.
00:18:57
Speaker
But every time it happened, it like cracked me up because I'm just like, this seems so unnecessary. A lot of business. And there were like the two doors. So it was a lot. It was a lot. Steps. So that's happening too in in the psych episode.
00:19:10
Speaker
I think, you know, Phil at one point is like, get them back, get them back. Like yelling at them to get away from him, you know, um not trusting the person who brings the pizza up because they're going to be a cop.
00:19:22
Speaker
So it needs to be like a regular person. Yeah. Oh, and I love that in the psych episode. Just the the way they construct that moment of yes, Sky is raising her hand. Yeah.
00:19:34
Speaker
From behind Oh, yes, as Sean. Yeah. yeah Me? and may Yeah, but like the way that – um Lunt makes him go back there and Stevins demands someone from a regular person.
00:19:50
Speaker
like So good. and um Can we also watch Die Hard? Wait, before we move do have one fun thing from Dog Day Afternoon. A psych connection. Because there always is one.
00:20:03
Speaker
Leon none other than Ashton Bonaparte from the Think Tank episode. What? Yeah. Are you for real? I mean, yeah a young... What? Yeah.
00:20:16
Speaker
That's crazy. I mean, that tracks. The hair in both. Spot on. Yeah. get I mean, and we see very, we don't see a ton from him in Think Tank episode.
00:20:26
Speaker
We really see his rage in Dark Day Afternoon. Yes. Yes. Yeah, all the acting was great. I felt like it was that movie is very much a like a very actor-y movie. I could just imagine like their Leon and Sunny scene on the phone. I was like, I bet this has been done in a million acting classes.
00:20:46
Speaker
Yeah, i could see that. um Yes, but then we watched Die Hard. Yes. Which I also forgot is our baby boy, Bruce Willis. I know, baby boy. Our best friend. Another side connection. Sort of. so ah Moonlighting connection.
00:21:02
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah, it was fun getting to watch him in this movie after watching Moonlighting. Because I could see like the, you know how so how actors say, or some actors say, I think I've heard Helena Bonaparte say like,
00:21:18
Speaker
part of the thing that you try and do in acting is like take yourself completely out of it but then every time you watch yourself in a performance you're like oh that's still kind of me so it was was interesting i thought to see Bruce Willis in these two similar but still very different roles
Bruce Willis and 'Die Hard' Comparisons
00:21:36
Speaker
and how he still has a little bit of that like goofy kind of silliness yeah in both even though the but character in Die Hard is not necessarily a Or inherently like a silly character, you know? Yeah. But he does need that. I mean, almost like Sean, like how he has to keep, like he kind of keeps joking, keeps, yeah keeps things light, which he needs to get him through this very intense situation. Yeah.
00:22:02
Speaker
Yeah.
00:22:05
Speaker
Yeah, but I mean, it was a blast watching Die Hard Alice. Yeah. Which I've seen it before once in a movie theater because it it was like a screen. Oh, fun. Very fun.
00:22:16
Speaker
Oh, my gosh. yeah I've seen like many of the iterations. Yeah, you said you've seen them all except for this one. Without a doubt. Are the others good? Yeah. I think they're all good. I mean, I really like Bruce Willis, and I think they, like, try to kind of up the stakes each time there's and a new one. you can't imagine up stakes from this. Oh, my gosh. Well, in one of them, like, his daughter gets freaking kidnapped and he' very taken, but taken as a kid.
00:22:42
Speaker
um And Bruce Willis has to you know go go figure it all out. but um Because it's like one of the movies that my you know my dad really liked. So if it was on TV, we watched it. Yes, action movies.
00:22:53
Speaker
But Die Hard proper, i didn't realize until we started watching it, I had never seen even like any clips of it. That's amazing. Yeah. And my only reference, which this is hysterical to me, my only reference is Bob's Burgers when they do...
00:23:10
Speaker
The kids do a a musical spoof of Die Hard and Working Girl. And it gets, like, mixed together. So they have a bunch of, like, jokes from the Bob's Burgers episode that I just kept saying in my brain, like, the entire time. Like, Hans Gruber, consider yourself grubed.
00:23:31
Speaker
Yeah. but Wow. do you So do you also feel like you understand that better now too? I do. Without a doubt. like classic study Yes. Well, there's this one great. So it's a play. It's a musical play. Like one of the kids writes it.
00:23:44
Speaker
It's like his passion project, writing a musical for Die Hard. He says to himself, why is no one singing? Why is no one dancing? like Oh my gosh. said And one of the scenes on stage when they're performing it is Hans Gruber falling off the tower and they have this like big,
00:24:02
Speaker
uh like canvas which they just bring closer and closer and closer to him and i was always like that's such a great shot like that is so like clever the way they did that and then i saw it in the movie and i was like oh my god makes total sense now i understand ah great shot then too yeah yeah and let's not forget speaking of great shots the director was the director of rollerball No way.
00:24:28
Speaker
Yeah. What? Makes sense. Makes sense. Makes sense. Yeah, there were a lot of really great, like, interesting shots in this Yeah, it's a very cool setting. And, like, it's cool how, like, and clever that the building is sort of unfinished or they're doing like, yes, renovations to the floors. So like every floor is different and it it just gives them a lot of mileage, even though they're in one location. indeed Yeah, totally. but Yeah. I thought, thought the whole thing was so fun. I thought like, even just the fact that Bruce Willis is kind of like this rogue agent, like on his own without any shoes on in like a white tank top. Like just, yeah, just so great.
00:25:16
Speaker
um Yeah, I loved. Okay, you know what i kept thinking the entire, as soon as Hans Gruber and his gang shows up, I was like, is this German?
00:25:27
Speaker
Does Kylie know what they're saying? What are they saying? i What were they saying some of the times? Were they like... go over there, do the thing, stop being annoying.
00:25:37
Speaker
Yeah, they were, like, saying, like, where they were going and, like, do this right now and... Oh, okay. so it was actual German. It was just Yeah, it was. it was I think they're probably... and Some of them are German actors.
00:25:50
Speaker
You know the other funny thing that I was thinking about, too, because I know... At some point, I don't remember when, but at some point in time, we had a conversation about how, like, German accents are so, like, interesting. And, like, German in English is so interesting. The German accent in English is so interesting because it kind of varies from, like, where you are in the country. So German accents sound very, very different in English.
00:26:13
Speaker
So listening to Alan Rickman play Hans Gruber, like, initially I was like, is that... like is it a german and then i was like who cares that's great like i could buy it well it is interesting like with german like people who are german and learn english like they'll and i'm sure this is true with other languages too but like if you learn from like a british person you sound more british or if you learn english from like american tv or whatever um
00:26:46
Speaker
Or if it's more from maybe like osmosis, it might be just like a more pronounced German um sounding thing. But yeah, so it totally varies. And there's so many different kinds of English, so it makes sense that would. Right. yep Yep. Very true.
00:27:01
Speaker
Yeah. yeah Yeah. it's I mean, it's just like a wild movie. Just thrilling. It really doesn't stop too. Yeah. You get the beginning and, you know, we're kind of force in everything. Yeah, it doesn't raise any time.
00:27:14
Speaker
None. Yeah. Like almost immediately Hans Gruber and his gang are like coming into the the tower and you're like, oh no, something's afoot. This is not good.
00:27:26
Speaker
And then Bruce, yeah, Bruce gets there. What is his name in this? I don't even, John? Oh, John McClane. I'm dumb. Okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah. John McClane. And, um... And he's there for like two seconds.
00:27:38
Speaker
Like literally like just showed up. see Yeah, he's still washing up in the bathroom. Thank goodness. I know. and then hostas chiu hostage situation and lack of shoes. It was, yeah, wild.
00:27:55
Speaker
Wild, wild. I thought the...
00:27:59
Speaker
Something that I actually really liked about the movie, which I'm not typically one for violence, but something that always something that always bothers me about like movies like this is you have these, or some action movies, I'll say, you have these very like intense criminals coming into somewhere, and then half the time they're like...
00:28:22
Speaker
not killing people. And I'm like, that doesn't feel realistic. You know what mean? Like, I can't imagine them being like, you're getting in my way, you're being annoying, but I'm not going to shoot you. Here, they were like...
00:28:34
Speaker
head of the business, you don't have any like benefit to me. Boom. Yeah. Annoying guy just helped me find John McClane. Boom. That was like that. I feel like that tracks. what It made it feel a little bit more realistic.
00:28:47
Speaker
Yeah, that's fair. um Yeah, and like thinking that their ultimate goal was to kill everybody by exploding the entire roof of the building while everybody was up there. Like, whoa.
00:28:59
Speaker
i mean, these are, yeah, these people are no joke. yeah But also, like it's kind of fun or interesting how they like play with the motivation of people like this.
00:29:11
Speaker
That they like let people let the outsiders think that yes they have some ideological aim. But really, they just are buying time to get to the money because all they care about is the money. Yeah. It's interesting.
00:29:25
Speaker
Yeah, it was a really fun movie.
00:29:29
Speaker
I thought that they did a pretty good job with... like
00:29:33
Speaker
balancing the the action, which there was a lot of and a lot of different types of action. There was explosions. There were shootouts. There were like punching each other battles. There was a like a mini cargo backward like thing. You know, there's a lot.
00:29:48
Speaker
Yeah. Stunts. Yeah. Oh my god, so many stunts. Oh my god, him like jumping off the roof of the building and then shooting the window to get inside and then almost fall. I was like, this is crazy! I read on the Wikipedia page again that jumping, I mean, this is what it said, believe, if I remember correctly, but jumping off with the fire hose was his first scene!
00:30:10
Speaker
That he did. would have been like, no. Absolutely not. You're going to kill me. I'm going to die. Another thing that I saw was in that other, the scene where he's under the table and the one guy is like trying to shoot at him.
00:30:26
Speaker
Yeah. Walking over him. Yeah. And he shoots him all in the crotch um it was that he was like permanently part partially or completely deaf in like one year from how loud shooting those blanks were by his head yeah Yeah, I mean. Intense, intense. Yeah, very intense.
00:30:48
Speaker
Another thing that they did that I feel like you can also maybe kind of see in the psych episode, like I feel like they did a great job sort of moving, like being in the action and going outside, like like going back to the car yeah with Argyle.
00:31:05
Speaker
And like, freaking love Argyle. Oh my God. So good. so but Adorable. um Yeah. And, and just like going outside, just like, and it was like a great way to be like, Oh, like the tension's so high. And then just like take a step back. And I feel like we had moments like that where it'll be like, went to Henry's house or like, um yeah, that kind of storytelling too. Like, that like watching Henry watch the TV to like get information, like um love stuff like that.
00:31:34
Speaker
Yeah.
00:31:36
Speaker
Yeah, I think they were... I mean, I think they were two really good watches for the episode. huh I think they...
00:31:48
Speaker
I don't know. Like I i watched, i i always try and watch the background stuff first and then the psych after. So I can like see the but connections, I guess. um And i felt like watching the psych episode, I was like, got it.
00:32:01
Speaker
Like that, like, yeah. It makes sense that they would call him like a hostage guy. It makes sense that they was around in the bank like that. Like I understand why he's trying to whatever ah inside of the bank.
00:32:12
Speaker
Yeah. I thought it was a good, good reference points for the episode itself. Yeah. Yeah. And I feel like, I mean, especially because it's like, you know, we are following the the police, basically, and John.
00:32:28
Speaker
um So, like, those dynamics was interesting, too. Like, the jurisdiction thing. like in Because in both movies, like, in Dog the Afternoon, we see, like, tension within the police in, um like...
00:32:44
Speaker
Obviously from the detective not being able to wrangle everybody the way he needs to and like people kind of messing with the rapport that he's trying to build. um And then like the FBI coming in and then we basically we kind of never see him again.
00:32:58
Speaker
i mean, we saw him once. i yeah I was wondering if he was like not even there, but he we see him like once listening to the phone call later. um But that kind of jurisdictional thing where like, okay, they're here now, so you're done.
00:33:10
Speaker
Right, right. And then in Die Hard, we also see the tension between like this beat cop guy who really feels a connection to McClane and believes in him.
00:33:24
Speaker
um And then these kind of like... macho like um detective people who are like we're gonna be in charge now and you need to shut up um which that guy he ended up being more and more funny as the fbi got involved and there was one part oh when um everything blows up and it's like just the craziest scene and i and he's just like we're gonna need some new fbi guys
00:33:55
Speaker
but there is So there was like that tension and then their FBI presence. Those guys were like they were assholes and idiots. yeah like I mean, so just like the representation of all these different roles within law enforcement and like none of it's never cohesive, which is also what we see in psych.
00:34:10
Speaker
Yes. um Because they are like, They don't want, you know, Lassie obviously doesn't want anybody coming in. and She has to adhere to protocols.
00:34:24
Speaker
um And they they, like, have relationships with these people, but at the same time, like, don't like them. I was a little confused about if Luntz is FBI or he's SWAT, which I believe would be part of the local department. Because she mentions FBI and SWAT.
00:34:43
Speaker
But when he gets there, he must be FBI, but maybe he just comes with the SWAT people because the SWAT van says Santa Barbara on it, I think. I was going to say, he's wearing a vest.
00:34:56
Speaker
Is it a branded vest? I don't think his his is. The only people know who like really are branded FBI are when Sean and Jules are talking on the phone and they're listening and they have FBI on their vest. I would guess then that maybe he is SWAT.
00:35:16
Speaker
And that would also make more sense as to how Lassie and him have kind of a ah past, like a history. Because I can only imagine like FBI probably doesn't get called out that often. Well, mean, Chief does. I mean, she may just have to tell them. Maybe they don't get involved right away. But I mean, they could have like a, what do they call it?
00:35:41
Speaker
district department some sort of satellite office there i don't know because when jewel says how they met it's at like a law enforcement conference oh which i also suggests he could be anybody like he could be with anyone yeah so don't know but i don't know either but yeah we definitely saw in all three just sort of
00:36:08
Speaker
A lack of cohesion. Yeah, which I imagine must be like frustrating for them as well. It's clearly frustrating for the people inside the bank who are like, just get us out of here.
00:36:19
Speaker
Just figure it out. yeah But then outside too, like I think it it's shown very well in Psych where we know and trust Lassie, Jules, and Vic already.
00:36:32
Speaker
And they are essentially just pushed to the side and told, like, just watch. Until the very end when Sean's like, we have to go figure this thing out. And then he has to give Lassie a pep talk. Only then is Lassie or anyone going and technically breaking protocol to go and do what they're good at, which is...
00:36:50
Speaker
police and detect and try and figure out what else could be going on here. But otherwise, they're really just standing there. Like that has to be very frustrating as an officer who typically handles stuff like this or is used to trying to fix the resolve the issue.
00:37:06
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. And I guess in a typical
00:37:12
Speaker
hostage situation it probably would have been more detrimental like them interview like Sean intervening and stuff yeah because it was the situation it was right it's all fine because Stubbins is really not a bank robber so it's like um yeah it's interesting i mean ultimately it's a workplace so a lot of different opinions a lot of different people in charge like that's kind of you see in diehard it's like
00:37:46
Speaker
Too many cooks. Yes. Yeah, that was really interesting. I also thought it was interesting in Die Hard. Yeah, you get the different personalities, but then you also get this like kind of cliched like business, like corporate business personality coming into it too. Like that one guy whose name I don't remember, but him being like, ah like I know what I'm doing. Like I am the biggest earner at this company. Like I can clearly handle these crazy people. The gets killed?
00:38:15
Speaker
Yeah, that guy. Oh, he was awful. He was awful. But that's like, I feel like that's very like business bro. You know mean? Oh, yeah. Yeah. He was such a like finance bro kind guy. Finance bro. That's the term. Thank you.
00:38:27
Speaker
Business bro. I like alliteration. like business bro. But yeah, like it's it's interesting to get to see how the different situations warrant like different people's and bring out different people's personalities.
00:38:43
Speaker
Yeah, but I mean, I'm just thinking again, like the FBI was really presented terribly. i die um yeah there was that moment where they're flying the helicopter and they're like, I say, like, we'll lose like twenty five thirty percent of the hostages. I'm like, I can live with that. Like, what is the matter with me?
00:39:04
Speaker
What ended Anytime I think of the FBI guys back to Bob's Burgers, the musical, there's like two twins and they sing, I'm Andrew Johnson and I'm Andrew Johnson and we're on the FBI. I'm John O'Johnson. He's Johnny Stomson.
00:39:20
Speaker
Wow. I will have to watch that. Oh my gosh. Wait, let me, I to give you the specific season. It's called, the episode's called Work Hard or Die Trying Girl. because I've also never seen Working Girl.
00:39:32
Speaker
I've never seen Working Girl either. ah Again, my only reference to it is the Bob's Burgers episode. um But I definitely should watch it because Bob's Burgers episode. It is season seven. Hold on.
00:39:45
Speaker
Nope. Season six. Nope.
00:39:50
Speaker
Season five. Season five, episode one. Work hard or die trying, girl.
00:39:57
Speaker
Highly recommend. um Okay. That's really funny because have you ever watched Big Mouth? I have. I saw maybe like the first season or maybe like the first couple episodes of Big Mouth. Yes.
00:40:11
Speaker
In Big Mouth, at some point, there is a Disclosure of the musical, which is another, like, 80s movie. Oh, okay. um And so it's funny that there would be two animated series that would both have musicals based on movies from this era.
00:40:29
Speaker
but and So the creator of Bob's Burgers, which I am a huge Bob's Burgers fan, I have been watching it for... probably upwards of 10 years. like Yeah, I remember you watching it in college. Yes, in college. Dressing up as... Yep, Louise, absolutely for Halloween.
00:40:44
Speaker
Yes, and it's like it's my comfort one of my comfort shows. So I just, I've seen the whole thing so many times. But um Lauren Bouchard, the creator of Bob's Burgers, has argued on multiple occasions just how apt the cartoon genre is for musicals and for like singing and and musicality. Interesting.
00:41:04
Speaker
Yeah, they try often throughout the series to input like music and singing and songwriting and stuff like that. like though Even the... um They had a movie, Bob's Burgers the movie.
00:41:15
Speaker
Even that, there's like singing in it. Just for fun. Yeah. Yeah. That's interesting. Yeah, it's great.
Modern Pop Culture References
00:41:24
Speaker
It's a fun time. I enjoy the show. I have a running tradition now. They have a Bob's Burgers calendar.
00:41:29
Speaker
That has been the calendar on my fridge for the last like six years. ah get it every year for Christmas. ah Yeah. That is comforting.
00:41:41
Speaker
Yes, it is. It is. Everything is right in the world when there's a Bob's Burgers calendar.
00:41:49
Speaker
Should we officially go into the psych episode? Yes. Frame it up. We have. So this is Gus Walks Into a Bank, which, shocker,
00:42:03
Speaker
Happens because Gus walks into a bank. Yes. One of our episodes, one of our very rare, only every so often episodes where we do not start off with a flashback. Yeah.
00:42:14
Speaker
And I feel like this exercise, like in paying attention to the when things happen, when they don't. There are more episodes without flashbacks than I thought. Yes. Early on.
00:42:26
Speaker
I would agree. Still not many, but I was like, oh, wow. Yes. I think if you asked me at the beginning, I would have been like, oh, there's two or three. And we're only in season three and I feel like we've gotten like four or five. Yeah. Well, they definitely kind of, they basically stop at like, I feel like in season six around there.
00:42:46
Speaker
they? They do stop at some point. Oh my gosh. Pretty much. I never even noticed. That just tells you how much I've been banged. But I definitely, yeah. But I definitely didn't think they played with that as much in the beginning.
00:42:58
Speaker
Yes. So yeah, no flashback. and but My next note is, is that a normal reaction about the woman and the gun? Oh my gosh.
00:43:10
Speaker
That's so funny.
Setting the Stage for the Bank Robbery
00:43:11
Speaker
my My original, my notes here are just Sean being a silly goose in the car because it starts off Sean and Gus are sitting in a car and Gus needs to do like the regular business stuff of running a business, which they technically run together, which includes depositing a check.
00:43:26
Speaker
And he's trying to convince Sean to go into the bank with him to deposit the check. And Sean is, you know, being the child that he is doesn't want to. And of course, ends up just saying a bunch of very silly things like using the term glitch. Like, what's your glitch, dude?
00:43:41
Speaker
I love what's your glitch. That's it's your glitch an excellent... Calling himself ah a wood nymph. What am I going to call you? A little wood nymph? I'm like, okay. A business man.
00:43:54
Speaker
Yeah, business. Exactly. have a business down too. Yes, talking about how he he hates this bank because they didn't give him a personal loan for a zipline police system to transport snacks from one room to the next.
00:44:07
Speaker
Which I do love thinking about this now, how um how much of a framing device the pulley system is. Yes. We come in with it.
00:44:18
Speaker
It's mentioned couple of times. Yes. Often, really. Yeah. it's Sean does not let that go. ah no And then he gets it. Yeah.
00:44:28
Speaker
And then we we get to have it at the end. Which I do love. And, you know, it's interesting, too, because I feel like... They made, because it's one of the demands, right, that Sean asks for, hence why he gets it.
00:44:42
Speaker
um I've always wondered about that. yeah So that is why he gets it. And like, did somebody just like started welding it as soon as, like, what is the story there?
00:44:53
Speaker
It's a good question. And I also feel like it's very high tech. Like if someone asked me to make a, I would have literally been like, here is a rope. Pull your snacks from one room to the next. Here's a gondola. Go.
00:45:05
Speaker
But this is like automated. Yeah. And there's a pineapple in it. Did they add that after? Did they do that? Yeah. As part of the demands. Yeah.
00:45:16
Speaker
this is definitely There's some TV magic there. Yes. And I'm for it. will buy it. Yes, of course. um And, you know, Gus eventually says, like, fine, I will go into the bank by myself and deposit the check.
00:45:30
Speaker
And I did think it was really funny that when Gus went into the bank, Sean's sitting in the car and the lyrics playing on the radio oh, yeah, you're a genius. Yeah, you just got it all figured out. And then... Ooh, I didn't notice that. Yeah.
00:45:43
Speaker
And then Gus is trapped in the bank. Like, oh. And Sean is kicking himself. Yep. For... Yeah, not going in with him. And that is also ah song by Steve Franks' band.
00:45:55
Speaker
Oh, well, very intentional then. Yes. So Gus goes into the bank to deposit the check. He's waiting in line. you know, he does all the things that you have to do before you actually deposit your check.
00:46:07
Speaker
And then, yes, we get this very intense reaction. Yeah. from this lady it does guess in her defense the the man who is also another fun psychism is what's his real name but cameron fry from ferris bueller's day yeah another john hughes movie yes he comes back right yeah he's in cloudy with a chance of meatballs reboot the remake alan ruck Yeah. And he, aye love him in this episode. He's great.
00:46:42
Speaker
He is so great in this episode. Like the, from the moment he walks in, I feel like yeah I can really totally buy him and the backstory of like, he doesn't really know what's going on. He's terrified that someone has his wife. Like he's just trying to save face and save everybody and wants to get out of here alive. Like I, from the moment he walked in.
00:47:04
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, he was very sympathetic. Yeah. Oh gosh. Yeah, he's so he's very funny without being overt about being funny and and also like like there's that moment where he says so when Sean's leaving and he's like, Sean, I love my wife.
00:47:26
Speaker
And it's like just beautiful. so you know, buddy. Quite a performance. Yeah, so good. In her defense, he just has the gun like in his jacket pocket.
00:47:39
Speaker
It's not like holstered or in any that's true any kind of situation where somebody might carry that, which, is you know, don't want people carrying guns out in the world. But yeah he just has it hanging out in his windbreaker pocket. So that is a little unsettling.
00:47:57
Speaker
That's very true. And I mean, I do... I get that the situation is also like the situation for a gun to be in is also maybe extra scary. For sure.
00:48:08
Speaker
Like for I don't want to see a gun at any point in time in my life ah personally. But I could see like, oh, gun in a bank. What is the only conclusion that you come to is bank robbery. So I guess I get that, too, that that is quite scary.
00:48:23
Speaker
Yeah. I also thought it was just so freaking funny that, you know, he pulls the gun, everyone's like down on the ground, and the security guard comes over, and he's like, drop the gun. then Phil's like, you dropped the gun, and he just immediately drops it. Okay.
00:48:36
Speaker
so okay He doesn't say anything, but he yeah he immediately And then does Phil shoot the clock? Yes, I think accidentally. On accident? And then he probably turns his safety on after that? Okay.
00:48:48
Speaker
Yes. That was always my my thought. Yeah, like in the panic, he... lets a shot ring out, hits the clock. And then I bet he's like, Oh, this is actually really dangerous.
00:49:01
Speaker
Yeah. yeah i don't want to hurt anybody. And this whole time, Sean is still just outside sitting in the car. Not. I love this cut though. Like everything getting so intense in the, Oh wait, is he, is he hanging out?
00:49:16
Speaker
I love the cut where it goes to Sean and you just see him sit up into the frame And he like looks over at the bank and it's like, yeah he just like senses that something is off.
00:49:27
Speaker
Well, he hears the, he hears the police sirens. Isn't that it? I don't know. Has he heard them yet? I mean, maybe it is, but I just love that scene that, or just that, that shot of him. Yes.
00:49:39
Speaker
Well, Cause he's theoretically just waiting for Gus to come back. So he's just chilling. And then like, Hmm, something, something is amiss. And this is when Lassie and Jules show up and they say that there's something going on in the bank.
00:49:55
Speaker
And Sean tries to push his way past the, you know, the two of them. Gus is in there. Oh my gosh. oh What a line. What a line. And then opening sequence.
00:50:10
Speaker
um ah Oh, I do love that when we get back from the the title sequence, Jules just Sean kind of gets like read really from Jules about being like, you're a psychic.
00:50:24
Speaker
Like, how could you not have predicted this? Like we were here. Why didn't you go into the bank? Like, how did you not know? Like someone coming into the, she's really questioning him. And it's especially for Jules, it's very rare for her to question him and his abilities.
00:50:40
Speaker
To his credit, he comes across with like a fairly reasonable answer, which is, I don't say into the future Jules, I read things in the present. Yeah. Well, I mean, consistent with the lore he's built for himself, like, we have never seen him really see the future because he literally can't.
00:50:55
Speaker
because Right. Because he's not a psychic. So, yeah I mean, he interprets the present. Yeah. um Yeah, it is. Jules does come in hot. and And he kind of goes off on her, too. He's like, you don't think I'm kicking myself? Yeah,
00:51:12
Speaker
yeah and then she kind of looks like chagrined that she... went off on him like that. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I, the spat for those two, we don't really see that a lot. And we had a couple spats in this episode. what and Yes.
00:51:29
Speaker
And when we said like in the last episode, talk derby to me, which again, like, you know, binge watching the show, it just kind of like flows over me. And I don't really think about like moment to moment, the plot development, yeah but for them to go from their roller skate date Yeah.
00:51:46
Speaker
To all of this tension with each other and then like the news that she's sort of dating this older man SWAT guy who's very cocky and doesn't seem to like Sean from the get-go.
00:52:02
Speaker
um Yeah, it's kind of a one step forward, two steps back kind of feeling. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I don't know. It's interesting because you're right. I mean, even from like the moment they kind of walk in I feel like Jules and Sean feel kind of not at odds, but yeah, there's just like something's going on, you know?
00:52:25
Speaker
Like the way that they're talking to each other, or the way that they're like interacting with each other is a little bit different than they have been in the past. And...
00:52:36
Speaker
i I do think, I don't know, this is an intense situation. So I think everyone is going to respond very intensely because everyone yeah ah stressed out, especially Sean, who's like my best friend in the whole wide world. The only person why I do any of this is inside that bank.
00:52:53
Speaker
um Like, yeah we've got to figure this out. At the same time, I don't necessarily think that her being like, why didn't you notice that this was going to happen? I don't really think that that's out of line, but I think it caught like the reactions just continue to build throughout the episode until we're at the end.
00:53:11
Speaker
And they're both like essentially mad at each other until Sean's like, you just, I just want you to be happy. just Yeah. Well, and we do kind of see Jules or we have seen her in the past sort of once they do kind of get close, like kind of reinforce the boundaries.
00:53:27
Speaker
So maybe that's kind of what she's doing. Like, Because in the last episode, you know, they they worked together. They had some sweet moments. And she was like, you know, no holding hands, you know. Like she like sort of lets it happen, but not all the way.
00:53:41
Speaker
And then maybe she, in the time between that case and this case, maybe she's like, okay, I need to take a step back. Right, right. Again. Yes.
00:53:53
Speaker
And to, you know, again, to her... To her, i don't know credit, but don't know what I'm trying to say. But i I get that. Like, this is a working, at the end of the day, this is a working situation, right? Yeah.
00:54:06
Speaker
So they do have to be collegial. And that is certainly blurring the lines of, like, what's allowable and what's not allowable. And we know that Jules already in the past kind of has this, like, there's a possibility of blurring the lines with her because she just wants to be like friendly with people and and like, and and all of this. So I could see maybe, you know, Pasquareti, maybe her like question things a little bit, you know? That's true. Yeah.
00:54:33
Speaker
um And she does, like, I feel like she, we see her acknowledge sort of what's going on between them and how she,
00:54:45
Speaker
She's like, I was going to talk to you about it. Like she knows this is going to be difficult. Right. And awkward for the two of them because of what's going on between them. So yeah, it's just like a very interesting like little interpersonal dynamic going on. Yeah.
00:55:03
Speaker
Yeah. It's, I think, very complex.
00:55:08
Speaker
Whereas, like, straightforward as it seems, this person likes this person. I think it's far more complex than, yeah, it seems on the surface.
00:55:19
Speaker
So, we realize that we've gotten a hostage situation on our hands. So, Vic has to inform the FBI and SWAT because it is, quote, protocol. It's protocol and you know it.
00:55:32
Speaker
just love the way she delivers lines. I know. and she's so She's just so iconic. Because because at at the end of the day, she's really not in, at least yet, she's really not in the episodes for that extended of a period of time. And yet, I feel like half of our favorite lines are hers.
Character Dynamics and Conflict
00:55:53
Speaker
She's just such a... I don't know. like She doesn't take the obvious route. Yeah. Yes.
00:56:03
Speaker
And I think, I do think that plays really well in... This series where you have James Roday Rodriguez, who also I feel like does not take the obvious route for most of his lines, but she's because she's the boss. She's always like a a tad bit more serious, but I think it like play they play really well together.
00:56:23
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah.
00:56:26
Speaker
So anywho, it's protocol. The FBI and the SWAT team show up to this just just blaring rock music and sirens, which I just love because you're like, oh, they're it. Like, they are the shit. Yeah, and they they think so, too.
00:56:42
Speaker
Oh, totally. Totally. Yeah. The back of the SWAT car opens. Luntz walks out, like, you know, pushing his hair back, all the swagger. And we find out he's the hostage negotiator. but I just love Sean's like mini monologue about him. He's like, and cut dripping with swagger.
00:57:01
Speaker
Love So funny. Let's roll it back. And I love Lassie's little smirk because Lassie is also can't stand these people, but he can't say anything.
00:57:12
Speaker
But Sean doesn't care. And then, and Buzz also is like enjoying this. It's very cute. I love Buzz. It cracks me up. Yeah, len the Luntz is our hostage negotiator who's dripping with swagger. He does not seem particularly fond of Sean. And I mean, I would guess it's because he's just meeting him and Sean's already making fun of him.
00:57:34
Speaker
Yeah. No, Sean is being a little brat. i But again, like, and Luntz clocks this pretty quickly. Like, he's behaving this way because this is personal and yeah he's afraid of what's currently going on. And we know that Sean has to break any serious moment with humor so he's just kind of locked on luntz just making fun of him i do like that he introduces himself as a dilettante of shadow puppetry and then has a swan kissing something else with his hands definitely you know that same kind of yang effect where it's like he keeps joking because yeah he must he must or else he's gonna go crazy yeah
00:58:19
Speaker
And we find out that Luntz and Lasseter clearly know each other, do not get along, don't particularly like each other, but Lasseter... They're two, like, alpha male macho men police people, so, yeah.
00:58:34
Speaker
Oh, we also get a direct patch into the bank? Yes. On Luntz's phone. Yeah, and is it... Is Sean trying to...
00:58:48
Speaker
What makes Sean call Gus's phone? um I think he just wants to, he wants to go in there. think that's the big thing. like He wants to help. He wants to be involved.
00:59:02
Speaker
And Luntz is like, no. So if he can't be involved with them, he's going to try and worm his way in somehow, which the only way he knows is to call Gus.
00:59:14
Speaker
Would be my guess. Yeah, I can't remember now. Because I'm trying to just, like, make sense of where my notes – like, the order of my notes. Yeah. they're um But – yeah.
00:59:27
Speaker
And then they're starting to, like, push people back, I think. And Jules, somebody from behind the line mentions their boyfriend's in there. He's a diabetic. Yep. He needs to eat.
00:59:39
Speaker
Mm-hmm. Oh, yeah. This is when they're talking – when Luntz is talking to Phil. Mm-hmm. Because – he starts saying like can we get some pizzas in there um but yeah we see jewels go up to lunch and let him know about this and he touches her gently on the small of her back and they get very close together to exchange this and we see sean just clock that yeah and be like what what the heck what am i looking at um
01:00:13
Speaker
and i just love when sean goes i am sensing a relationship here like i love how he's like going through the motions yes like he barely a familial relationship an uncle yeah and last he's like oh not yet not familial yet yeah yeah i love lassie knowing yeah like that's really fun for like the partner it really feels like a workplace like yeah i mean you know like there's gossip and like people some people know but not everybody does and then it comes out and the person you like is like like yeah workplace drama
01:00:57
Speaker
Yeah. and And yeah, it was so interesting, like the whole to to what you were saying before, like Jules knows she was going to tell Sean. She knew this was going to be awkward. She didn't get the chance.
01:01:09
Speaker
And now awkward anyway. But they're also more so. Right. Because they're in a high stress situation. Like it's just too much. And Sean's like clearly peeved.
01:01:20
Speaker
And probably blindsided. Oh, totally. Out of, you know, kind of the... I feel like we're blindsided as a viewer. Yeah, like she's dating somebody? when this happen? just went roller skating. no just went roller skating. Yeah, exactly.
01:01:34
Speaker
Like, what's going on, Jules? And it seems like, too, like, it seems as if they've gone on a couple dates. Yeah. Yeah, the way she says it is interesting.
01:01:45
Speaker
It almost sounded to me like... They met and went on a couple dates. And maybe that was like some time ago. don't know. It's not super clear. Like, i don't know if maybe she went on a couple dates with him.
01:01:56
Speaker
They're probably both very busy. Yeah. And then maybe this is them like kind of reconnecting. Or if she's actively dating him. I wasn't super clear on that. Yeah. I'm not sure either. That's a good question. I mean, it's interesting because it seems like they're fairly...
01:02:18
Speaker
Like, at least in the episode, it seems as if they're they're fairly consistent. Like, they're supposed to be going on a date tonight. They couldn't go. Eventually, we find out they can't go on the date. They reschedule to tomorrow.
01:02:28
Speaker
Like, just the next day. Yeah. You know, i feel like that's not necessarily typical. You know, he says, oh, every no conflicts. Like, everyone's schedule worked out, you know.
01:02:39
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hu So, who knows? I could see either situation working. You know, if they're not on and either one of them is on big cases or anything. Oh, my God. And one of the other things that I noticed, which I was like, what the heck?
01:02:54
Speaker
Sean goes back to talk to Luntz to try and convince him to let him go into the bank. Luntz eats eye drops. What is that? Is that? Oh, is that? what do you I saw him wave.
01:03:07
Speaker
Like, he had that bottle out for something. What? Is that like a? I don't know what that is. I was like going That's such like sitcom-y like weird thing to give a character.
01:03:19
Speaker
was like is this people do that? They must not be eye drops. They must be something. They look just like my eye drops. Where's the? Maybe it's like liquid caffeine or something and he just like maybe delivers it to his mouth that way.
01:03:35
Speaker
Episode. I want to see what the transcript says. Transcript. I don't know what website you use but I'm picking the first one. Yeah, it depends.
01:03:47
Speaker
i can read. Here we go. You hear from the tombra of his voice. The fact that he doesn't use contractions. Yes. I have always, that's always boggled my mind. I am male child and I use plenty of contractions.
01:04:03
Speaker
You know, they're efficient. that's understandable. Apparently it's breath freshener. oh Which makes way more sense. However, i What does it say in the transcript?
01:04:14
Speaker
It says...
01:04:17
Speaker
ah did did did did did did did And he's a middle child. Pours breath freshener onto his tongue. So weird. I don't... Yeah.
01:04:30
Speaker
Yeah. I don't know what to make of that. Yeah. Which I guess maybe is like because he just realized that Jules was here and got very close to Jules. So maybe it's like, uh-huh, I gotta freshen up.
01:04:44
Speaker
that I'm gonna be close to Juliet. So weird. But yeah, such an odd thing. was like, ew! What are you doing?
01:04:54
Speaker
And this is when Sean gets put behind the place. Sean's really trying to get in there. Yes, he wants to save guests. wants to be involved. Yes.
01:05:05
Speaker
And... In the end, though, it works out to his credit, being you know ostracized behind the police barricade because... As Kylie mentioned before, the pizza gets delivered, but Phil notices that it's a cop they're trying to use as the delivery person, and he doesn't want cop getting in That's kind of a Dog Day Afternoon thing, like you said.
01:05:26
Speaker
Also, this is a little sidebar about Dog Day Afternoon, but the guy who was driving the limo, was that really a cop? you think that was really a cop?
01:05:36
Speaker
I don't know. Because in the beginning, I was like, that's not really a cop. But he played it in a way That it was like maybe. But I don't know what why that would help them. Just so that there's someone who knows where they are.
01:05:49
Speaker
So they like can't take another route, I guess. he can't But I just mean like why like they are going to put the FBI guy with him anyway. Why pretend, why have a fake cop bring the limo?
01:06:04
Speaker
For the heck of it? Like I don't know. Maybe they just want as few you I could also see them just wanting fewer like regular people just in general. Yeah. No, I totally get that. I guess I just mean like why pretend?
01:06:19
Speaker
Oh, to be a regular person? Why not just, yeah. Well, for that driver specifically because they like do all that theater. Yeah. Like a big – and they're like they won't let that guy go with him. So it's like.
01:06:30
Speaker
They were going to make him take the FBI guy anyway, so, like, right what was the point? I don't know. don know I don't know. In Dog Day Afternoon, though, was that a real pizza guy who brought it? It seemed like it was a real pizza guy.
01:06:43
Speaker
seemed like, yes, because he was like, I'm on TV! Yeah, and I was kind of surprised that it was. Yeah. But, uh,
01:06:55
Speaker
Yeah. So. but But yeah, regular guy. so I guess it's kind of paralleling that in. Yeah. In Psych wanting a regular guy, which they end up selecting Sean because he's regular but not regular.
01:07:08
Speaker
um And. Sean takes the pizza.
Sean's Involvement in the Bank Heist
01:07:14
Speaker
I love all the pomp and circumstance regarding the pizza. Cracks me up so much.
01:07:20
Speaker
They gave you this pizza. Half of them are vegetable. Yeah. And when said something about the ridiculousness of there not being any ham or pineapple. yeah No pepperoni. Like just clearly making a scene for the sake of making a scene and trying to get inside.
01:07:36
Speaker
And Luntz is screaming at him from across the the street. Put the pizza down and fuck away. He's just so mad at him. And then of course Sean gets taken into the bank because what else is all going to do?
01:07:51
Speaker
And This is when we get to see that the the door gets locked. Phil has the safety on. And he officially becomes the next hostage.
01:08:05
Speaker
And Sean has a little smirk. ah
01:08:11
Speaker
And then I love that we then go to commercial, obviously, because, yes, so serious. And when we come back, I love that they're all separated with their shoes off, which I just think is so hysterical. And it makes a lot of sense for, like, later on in the episode.
01:08:28
Speaker
But it kind of gave me, like, dog day afternoon vibes of just them constantly being like, go in the vault! Don't go in the vault! Go in the vault! Yeah, not really knowing what they're doing.
01:08:40
Speaker
It is interesting... what like if I wonder how much instruction Phil was given. I mean, well, assuming they didn't think they were going to have hostages, Phil came up with this by himself.
01:08:51
Speaker
Right. So i'm kind of surprised like we didn't see that in Dog Day Afternoon because maybe he didn't get it from a movie or something. Maybe. we Yeah, it could be. i Maybe Die Hard. Yeah. Did it?
01:09:02
Speaker
He doesn't have his shoes. None of you can have your shoes. Yeah. He just based it on John McClane. Yeah.
01:09:12
Speaker
Who knows? I mean, it's funny because I don't think that there was really any sense behind it. But Gus is like internalizing everything that is happening and is like, he's doing it so that we can't get away. like Well, Sean tells him that.
01:09:26
Speaker
Oh, is it Sean that said that? Yeah, Gus is like... it's like oh i think he's saying there's something off with this guy like he may stick off our shoes like who does that and then sean's like it's a way of containing people and he says it very matter-of-factly like which he he would know sean told him to to make people take their shoes off huh maybe well he hasn't become oh he's not running the show yet yeah yes Yeah.
01:09:55
Speaker
I don't know. I did. I have, I know, just our boys together. I'm so glad. that Like after all this tension yeah worry and worry, it's so nice to see them just sitting there together. but Yeah. And you can tell that Sean's like, I'm here now. It's all going to be okay. Like, don't worry. We're going to be Yeah. Yeah. He's very, this you sweet dollop of spicy goodness.
01:10:14
Speaker
Because Gus is like giving him a hard time for getting captured. Yeah. yeah And Sean's like, obviously I was doing that on purpose. Hello, come on. um So yeah, he is very like sweet to Gus.
01:10:28
Speaker
Yeah. Even his silly little isms that he does like are are kind. Yeah.
01:10:38
Speaker
yeah I think Sean believes that like now because he's like i said now because he's in on it, like it's it's all going to be okay. like he He's the one that's going to figure this out. And Gus is... taking it like a regular person and being like we're in hostage situation yeah like this is not this not good sean why would you want yourself inside ah hostage situation with me i mean he even says i've realized some things about life being in here sean's like you've been in here for two hours two hours hostage time stuff is different now i mean he like put you know puts up this whole thing later on when um
01:11:15
Speaker
when Sean says he's going to be leaving, like Gus, I mean, hugs him like it's the last time he's ever going to see him. Yeah, this is real. This is real for Gus. And it doesn't necessarily feel real for Sean.
01:11:26
Speaker
Yeah, well, especially getting in there. And I mean, I guess the main thing that he immediately notices, like you said, is that Phil has the safety on his gun. um And he's like, why would a bank robber?
01:11:39
Speaker
yeah like yep clearly not he's not planning to shoot anybody um right you know in an urgent way so um sean immediately thinks like there's just more to it and he's not who they think he is outside right right so yeah he like where gus is in a hostage situation sean's like There's something else going on here. Right.
01:12:07
Speaker
We'll figure this out. It'll be fine.
01:12:11
Speaker
We do also get some bathroom bits, which we get lots of bathroom talk in. Talk day afternoon. Clever. Yes. Um... And that could maybe be a diehard thing. Well, it is a diehard thing. Oh, that's true.
01:12:28
Speaker
Actually, and dark the afternoon. Just that people have to go to the bathroom. Which I mean, yes. and People do. but ah Bladder weights for no man. Yeah. um But also, like, Sean kind of being sneaky in the bathroom and calling Lassie and stuff.
01:12:46
Speaker
That's kind of a John McClane move. Yes, definitely. And I love this little line that Sean gives um Stubbins as we're going into the bathroom for the first time, which, you know, he's Stubbins is following him, you know, kind of threatening him as we're like going into the bathroom. And Sean's like, you know, I'm not a regular person. right I tried once and I failed. I'm just too unique and interesting.
01:13:13
Speaker
and wrote that down too. Oh, Sean. So funny. And he tells him he's a psychic and that he knows he's a middle child, which of course he got from once. And that he's not a bank robber.
01:13:25
Speaker
And Phil immediately, like all pretense, just yeah goes away and is so happy to know that someone else knows he's not a bank robber. He hugs him and he's like, how's my wife? Is she scared? And I'm like, oh.
01:13:37
Speaker
And I love watching Sean's like wheels turn. Yes. And then when when Phil says, can you get a message to my wife?
01:13:48
Speaker
And Sean's like, sure. And Phil gets really close and does like an exposition jump. And I love that Sean's response.
01:14:00
Speaker
Wow, that was just so jam-packed with information.
01:14:05
Speaker
And breathy. And breathy. It's just so good. Like, I love. Yeah, it is. It is, you know, writing-wise, it's like, I mean, I guess it's not. This is a kooky guy, and he's just trying to tell his wife what happened. So it's not, like, totally, like, awful, like, exposition dump.
01:14:24
Speaker
But it is funny to have Sean comment on. Yeah. Just the amount of information he's just been able to gather yeah with this device.
01:14:37
Speaker
Yeah. And the that whole little scene too is just played so well by the two of them. Like Stubbins like kind of grabs Sean and is like, this ear
01:14:51
Speaker
this morning i was confronted by a man he's so in and sean is just like dead face like okay and i love like when he's done and then sean and then phil comes back to keep talking It's like, you don't have to do that.
01:15:15
Speaker
Yeah, we're good.
01:15:19
Speaker
Yeah, it's so good. i feel like yeah it also... On top of Sean already saying to Phil, like, I know this isn't you. I feel like that talking about the wife and the closeness, like, it it builds even more of like, this rapport between these two guys very quickly. And, and you know, Sean says, okay, we're, like, in this together. We've we've got, like, a couple of of rules now that we, like, got to go by, right? Well, he does first go to the bathroom. Or does he...
01:15:47
Speaker
Is he going through the those rules already? Rules first. Yeah, yeah. Keep up the crazy guy's routine. Oh, yeah, yeah. Don't talk to anybody without me, meaning Sean. then three, i do have to use the bathroom.
01:15:57
Speaker
Yes. And he, so he goes and calls Luntz initially, but Luntz doesn't really want to hear any of what Sean has to say because it seems like, again, Luntz still just looks at Sean like a nuisance because he's never worked with him before. like He doesn't know what he does. His antics.
01:16:16
Speaker
Right. And I'm sure, too, like we were saying before, this guy is like very egocentric, so he's probably thinking, like, you haven't proved yourself to me. Like, I don't know your purpose. Like, you don't know what you're doing. And this is a very intense situation. And people's lives are at risk. And Sean is just, like, muddling with all That is fair.
01:16:34
Speaker
But, you know, i would think at least from like Jules and Lassie and Vic's perspective, Sean does get results. So maybe if it was someone who knew him a little bit, they would be like, yeah, let me hear what you have to say. But we do have to take this seriously. He's not even willing to to hear him.
01:16:50
Speaker
So.
01:16:52
Speaker
So Sean instead afterwards calls Lassie, but he calls him something silly
01:16:59
Speaker
las las lasops lasops lasops lasopsos i think lasopsos there you go i wrote it down but i was like does even pronounce this and um he tells him what stubbins just very clearly expounded to him on which is that his wife has been taken and um and someone needs to check like is that actually what's happening is the wife actually not where she's supposed to be so Lassie ends up sending McNabb to check on the whites.
01:17:33
Speaker
Skeptical at first. He doesn't, he's like, he's been talked into or put in his place. Yeah. It's not protocol. He's not supposed to be doing anything. And Sean's like, what's the harm? Just send a couple black and whites out.
01:17:48
Speaker
Yeah. And I think it's tough because I think both of their stances have merit. Like, I think Lassie, again, at the end of the day, this is his job. He does have to follow protocol. If, you know, universe forbid something happened in him not following protocol, he would be held responsible for that.
01:18:04
Speaker
But Sean also has this insider information. So what is the harm? hmm. Yeah. And when Sean starts that conversation, he frames it. He says like, I have something that's going to put you back in the driver's seat of this case or something like that. Like playing on Lassie's ego too.
01:18:25
Speaker
Lassie also wants to be in charge. Yeah. um But I do feel like
01:18:33
Speaker
this episode has kind of
01:18:37
Speaker
a fun slash sweet element of like Lassie and Sean's dynamic because I feel like ultimately Lasseter would not do this if he did not trust Sean. Totally.
01:18:48
Speaker
To some extent. Which Sean is even says later like I know you don't like me which yeah I don't think it's true but that's the game they play and don't it's just I like that thread for them.
01:19:01
Speaker
Yeah. Well it's some you know I think we've gotten a lot and we've talked about this we've gotten a lot of like Sean and Vic development we've gotten a lot of like Sean and Jules development we've seen a lot of like Sean and Lassie interacting but I don't really know if we've seen very much like forward trajectory in their relationship so far yeah it's been a while since we've really seen because like The motorcycle episode, that the first Cloudy with a Chance of Murder, that was season one, right?
01:19:41
Speaker
And that's a big Sean and Lassie episode. And then
01:19:48
Speaker
the planetarium one, that's also season one, isn't it? I think so. Yeah, i don't know if we saw anything in season two, really. Yeah, it's been a while. So to get kind of back on that thread, I like. Because we're going to get really, the two of them are really going to develop as a pair um by the end of this.
01:20:11
Speaker
So yeah, Lassie sends McNabb to check out Phil's wife. And
Uncovering Motives and Culprits
01:20:17
Speaker
in the interim, Sean decides to put together some demands for Phil to give to Lassie.
01:20:22
Speaker
Which are just wonderful. Of course, an airplane to go anywhere. up By Phil, yes.
01:20:31
Speaker
Airplane, makes sense. Also, a dog day afternoon thing. Yes. Tour bus blue with groupies.
01:20:40
Speaker
$5,000 in unmarked bills and the zipline snack pulley machine. Of course. A must. A must, indeed. And while is...
01:20:54
Speaker
conversing with Luns, talking to Phil. They're like in the bank manager's office. They've kind of segregated themselves to this area of the bank. And Sean ends up noticing a couple of important pieces of information that Phil's house was foreclosed on and that there are many other houses that the bank has recently foreclosed on sitting on the bank manager's desk. Like there's a document.
01:21:20
Speaker
with it And they have like little handwritten kind of notes by them, one being vacated. Importante. Indeed. so
01:21:33
Speaker
Oh, yes. Luntz calls into the bank. We get a whole back and forth between them regarding, like, what's going on. And and Phil essentially says, you're not going to talk to me. Sean's in charge now. And Luntz is like, no, no, no, no.
01:21:48
Speaker
Yeah. Absie's like, this freaking guy, absolutely not. Yeah. Just imagine if you were Luntz coming into this. You don't know Sean at all. And you're just like, who is this nut?
01:21:59
Speaker
Yes. He's like, are you actually kidding me? He's ruining everything. Yeah. ah And to his credit, he tries to ruin it even more. He's like, you know, put Juliet on the phone.
01:22:12
Speaker
And I love when he also is talking to Lentz and he's like, Pierce, I am making the demands now. And then he says, is the timbre of my voice telling you why?
01:22:24
Speaker
yeah He is so cocky and I love, yeah you know, being lover of sean i'm like yeah yeah go buddy yes yeah so he starts talking to jules and questioning their her romantic dynamic with lence and um i forget all the things and she's like showing half the Santa Barbara police department can hear yeah us.
01:22:59
Speaker
And he's like, oh yeah, sorry. you Let me just ask you this. Does he have those old man boobies?
01:23:10
Speaker
oh too much. It's like, Sean, this is not, this is not the time. It's amazing how he can go from like, just like brilliant and effective to
01:23:23
Speaker
a total brat i feel so bad for jules throughout this whole thing because i'm sure like if this were me i would go home and be like this was a crazy this was a bad day like too much too much stress too many questions like too much things that i didn't want to explain now the entire department half the santa barbara police department knows about what's going on i feel like yeah yeah no cannot tolerate this anymore Yeah, I'm not sure how that wraps up. But yeah, my next note is also about the bank manager. Yeah.
01:23:56
Speaker
Okay. Well, yeah, Sean goes out and sits next to Gus and and the manager. Yeah. Nathaniel Griesling. Yes. like I don't remember his name.
01:24:07
Speaker
and And I love Gus in this scene. Me too. He's being an actual hostage. Yes. and And he doesn't have, you know, the confidence that Sean does that everything's, you know.
01:24:20
Speaker
It's to pan out and that there's more that meets the eye and stuff. And he also doesn't know as much as Sean does right from having just talked to Phil. But the way he interacts with the bank manager, he's like, oh, wow. Yeah, he's such a good listener, like a great active listener.
01:24:39
Speaker
It almost is like the negotiation thing of just like really building a rapport and like, I don't know, he really gets stuff out of him. Yeah. So I really loved Gus.
01:24:52
Speaker
Yeah. Yes. He was very like, I feel like Gus is so always so committed to the bit as we discussed. He felt even here just very committed to what this guy was saying and like very concerned and like, oh.
01:25:04
Speaker
Wow. Yeah. And they get, like you said, they get a lot out of the bank manager. They find out that Stubbins was here on the day of the diamonds being put in the safe. And they're like, well, how would he know that the diamonds were put in the safe? Oh, well, he had an appointment and, you know, we had to push him back because this was like a VIP client. And, you know, my mistake, I shouldn't have done it, but I like said that they were putting some like very important stuff in.
01:25:32
Speaker
in the safe and and as he says saying all everything like we also see sean remembering yes seeing the security footage where the bank manager you know he's describing how phil walked in and like got his attention which is not what happened no he just went to phil and they went into the safety deposit room and and he and phil pulled a gun ah Which the guy's arms went up before Phil, before even seeing Phil, like he wasn't facing Phil and Phil hadn't pulled his gun yet.
01:26:10
Speaker
and So yeah. So Sean is piecing together that he's in on it. yeah And yeah, Gus is doing an amazing job, like psychic detectiving, getting info from this guy Yes.
01:26:26
Speaker
Yeah, exactly. Especially because... No one else in the bank knows that the two of them a site. Very yeah You know, so he, you're right. He is really being the like detective. The only thing is that and In theory, and and maybe he's not telling the truth, but the bank manager does say that he remembers Sean's loan application, small business loan application, and they do bank there. So they may have an idea who these people are, but I i mean... ah that's a good point.
01:27:04
Speaker
He must not be thinking about it. Yeah. Yeah.
01:27:10
Speaker
Yeah, and and maybe he's just like, you know, he I could imagine him being like, well, psychics aren't real. So this guy's never going be able to figure out like what happened anyway. That's very true. And also knowing that Sean did put in small business loan application for a snack food. ridiculous. Yeah. Holy system. He's like, these guys aren't real. Right.
01:27:30
Speaker
don't have to worry about them. Yeah. There's no problem here. Yeah.
01:27:36
Speaker
Okay. And then strongng goes the bathroom. This is what happens. Sean goes the bathroom. Oh, right, were right, right. And calls out at the bank again, essentially saying, hey, the bank manager's in on it.
01:27:47
Speaker
I'm not quite certain how yet, but he is. So just like letting you know, here's all the info that he gave us. And when he comes back out... He sees that Phil standing by the window. So he like goes over and starts talking to Phil and Phil's like, oh my gosh, they're like meeting all of our demands.
01:28:00
Speaker
Sean's like, even the snack pulley system? And he's like, yeah, all of it. They called me over here to check the tour bus. You know, it's it's not blue, but is it okay? And Sean's like, well, yeah, of course. And Sean, the way he runs up to him, he's like, Phil, what are you doing? Like he does seem to have...
01:28:16
Speaker
A sense that he really shouldn't be standing next to the window. Right. And but then he's like thrown by they're meeting all the demands. Right. And I mean, that's fair also because they were meant to be kind of ridiculous. to me Yeah.
01:28:33
Speaker
But Sean does eventually come around to like, oh, window. ah Bad. People out there moving around quickly. Bad. Someone on the roof. Also bad. Oh my god. Red dot on your chest. They're going to shoot you.
01:28:46
Speaker
He very dramatically... you know, tackles Phil to the ground right before the shot gets him. The window shatters. We hear, you know, from the the cop side, like, what happened?
01:29:00
Speaker
I don't know. We just fell out of my scope somehow. And Sean and Stubbins are lying on the ground, like... We zoom in, tight close-ups on all these angry hostages. Yeah, can you even imagine...
01:29:17
Speaker
like your Tough situation. Brave of Sean to be like. Very. Oh my god. Yeah. But he's committed. He's always committed to the truth.
01:29:29
Speaker
Yes. And in this case, he's pretty certain that this is more than it seems. Which we find out that is. So... We end up seeing, oh yeah, cut to commercial, come back. Henry is watching TV about the developments at the bank, like he's watching the news. And they very clearly say Sean Spencer is now like calling the shots.
01:29:54
Speaker
And Henry's just like, oh, this can't be good. ah john And I love that Henry is not like, holy shit. like Exactly. He's just like, good Lord. like yes boy Not surprised. no, no. Oh boy.
01:30:09
Speaker
Yeah. And to his credit, he does end up going down to the... He does. And I feel like he also... We see, like, how he also respects Sean.
01:30:24
Speaker
Yeah. In a way that Lassie does. Like, he also knows that whatever shenanigans Sean's up to here... Yes. You know, he's probably got ah reason.
01:30:35
Speaker
Yes. And all he really, which is not in this exact next scene, but in ah and a couple of scenes, like just tells him, you know, what he knows about the escalation that's probably going to happen. Right.
01:30:46
Speaker
And then, yeah, yeah so then back it to the bank.
01:30:55
Speaker
Sean comes to sit with Gus and Gus is like, I don't want to be seen with you. Yeah. Everyone thought they were going to get out. You're the guy who saved him. i don't need everyone to hate me more. Thank you.
01:31:07
Speaker
and And Sean informs him that as a gesture of goodwill, Phil and I are going to release a hostage, which I love Phil and I. Of course. Because
01:31:21
Speaker
Sean is holding hostages, essentially. It's true. Yeah, technically. And Gus is like, oh, my God, thank you. Like, thank thank you. Thank you. Like, thinking it's going to be him. Because, of course, who else would it be in his mind?
01:31:36
Speaker
And Sean's like, no, it's not. It's not you, buddy. And he's like, oh, my God, you're right. me There's, like, women and children in here. Like, why would I? Old people. Why would it be me?
01:31:47
Speaker
And and yes thoughtful that he's so, like, He feels so bad for even thinking that he would be the one. He's like, of course not. And Sean. And then Phil comes up and he's like, Sean, are you ready? Are you ready?
01:32:00
Speaker
Gus is like, are you kidding me? Yeah, he then puts on this big like...
01:32:09
Speaker
Big show. um my gosh. Of the release. Yeah. I just just need to let you know. Oh no. Not even. Oh God. Oh yeah. Before the release. I need to let you know. care about you.
01:32:19
Speaker
But so sincere. I appreciate. Oh yeah. I appreciate you. and I love you Sean and I'm like I do feel love this and any shipper it would be happy with this episode because we have duels and Sean stuff we have Gus and Sean moment we have Lassie and Sean yes yep everybody's happy here all of all of the Sean yeah so sweet and yeah yeah Gus this is really making us reevaluate not for the last time you know this this job yeah actually this has nothing to do with his job this just happened to him yeah what he's what he's doing and i also love earlier which I I don't think we mentioned it but when he was first saying
01:33:10
Speaker
yeah it was earlier when he was first saying like how like hostage time yes like things move fast in here stuff and he was saying That he needs to be – let me look up what he said.
01:33:23
Speaker
Do you have the transcript open? I do. Let me grab it. Yes, but two hours hostage time. Things happen fast in here, Sean. Life is fleeting and I need to live it. I need to say the things I'm feeling and act on those feelings before it's too late and so do you.
01:33:36
Speaker
And so do you. I feel like that, I was like, it's so – it's almost like throwaway. Like he says it so fast, but I feel like for where Sean is in his whole journey with Jules and stuff, that is very – totally sincere advice.
01:33:51
Speaker
Like Gus is watching all this play out. Yeah. So, yeah. And I wonder too, like we don't often get to see ah Sean and Gus talk about Jules, but they're best friends. I'm sure they talk about this and you know, the kind of weird dynamic that they're playing back and forth with. So I'm sure he's just like, do it.
01:34:12
Speaker
Yeah. Just need to do it. When is the outbreak episode? Oh. Because I feel like that has a similar moment where they think Jules might yeah die Yes. It does. And he's like at her bedside. he's like Yeah. And Gus like you can see 13th episode of season four.
01:34:30
Speaker
okay. And Gus really plays a a role in like whether
Team Dynamics and Investigation
01:34:36
Speaker
Sean's going to yes because so they he finds out she's not and so he's like gives him a chance to like not say don't know but yeah but yeah he is definitely aware yeah so yeah yeah lots very sweet um sean and gus and sean's just like okay okay yeah because also sean is not worried sean's like we're we're literally gonna be fine like nothing's happening here and gus is like i'm gonna die like i'm literally not gonna get out of here alive and as much as sean knows there's also a lot he doesn't know he doesn't know that there is an actual bank robber yes uh hidden in the mix yeah who will kill people if he must yes very true
01:35:22
Speaker
So Sean gets out. Of course, right beforehand, Phil tells him, Sean, I love my wife. Sean's like, I know you do, man. So sweet.
01:35:34
Speaker
Yes. And then Sean makes a big freaking show of getting out of this bank. He's been in for like half an hour. Like he's in the dark and she's like, everybody's cheering for him.
01:35:46
Speaker
And you can tell the cops are like, oh my God. Like freaking guy. Yeah. Yeah, and then they kind of fight over who's going to debrief him. And then Vic says, we'll debrief him first and we'll let you know.
01:35:58
Speaker
Yes, he's our guy. I'm impressed that they got away with that after all the yeah jurisdiction-y stuff. That's true. That's good point. So Lassie gets to take Sean. He like takes him to the side, which I don't know why they wouldn't just debrief at the same time, honestly. But whatever.
01:36:13
Speaker
I guess for the tension. um Lassie goes to pull Sean. We see Henry in the crowd. lets him know that once is not messing around anymore you've got maybe an hour and which is interesting i mean i guess i i'm thinking of doggy afternoon feel like another thing that made that escalation so different is how sunny had somebody else in the bank and he kept saying like he's gonna kill people if something happens to me while i'm out here right he'll kill people yeah um
01:36:45
Speaker
And, but it is interesting that like that went on for so long and like this is like, hours yeah. And this, Luntz is done negotiating after like maybe three.
01:36:57
Speaker
Yeah. Maybe. Yeah. this is We can't keep doing this. Yeah. So yeah, it's interesting. But yeah, and great scene with, yep.
01:37:12
Speaker
With Sean and Lassie.
01:37:15
Speaker
yeah They want to go look for the wife. Mm-hmm.
01:37:22
Speaker
You just go out life by the little Lassiters. Yes. And follow your instincts. yeah And then he's, I know you don't like my methods. I know you don't like me. And I love the way he says that. That is not like jokey Sean. That is serious Sean. Yeah, totally.
01:37:35
Speaker
and And I feel like he, that's very vulnerable in a way to like yeah sort of admit that so explicitly. And because he plays so many games with Lassie, but like.
01:37:52
Speaker
Yeah, he's like, I know you don't like me, but... Right.
01:37:58
Speaker
And he's just, yeah, he's just trying to convince him to go with him on this. Right, yeah. But ultimately, like, we know astounds Lassiter. Like, how could he not?
01:38:13
Speaker
Yeah.
01:38:17
Speaker
And then I love... Lassie's like, you take shotgun. And Sean's like... you're so sexy right now. Yes.
01:38:27
Speaker
Yes. And then i love that they have to, they have to bring Jules along. So Sean, Sean's like, let's go. Trying to get her attention, like across the crowd. know I know.
01:38:39
Speaker
I'm always so curious why she walks all the way around the van and then walks all the way back. I was thinking the same. I wonder if maybe there is a barricade. maybe she like went around and also to make that comment. I didn't one, but could be, I guess.
01:38:54
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. And the way she says... What does she say? She walks by Luntz and he's kind of like, where you going or whatever? And she's like, you're not the only one with job to do.
01:39:09
Speaker
yeah And she says it kind of sassy. like She does. Luntz really hasn't said anything to her. And earlier she was like, look, I'm fine taking a back seat on this, guys. Yeah. I trust him. I like him.
01:39:20
Speaker
Yeah. But all of a sudden she's like, hmm. yeah my own thing um and months is like are are we still on for dinner later yeah you sound so dopey um so yeah so we got our gang they're off they're gonna go to that vacated foreclosure yeah sean's gonna psychically lead them there because he's pretty sure that's where phil's makes sense of be yes where else could she be And we get a little like spat in the car between and Jules.
01:39:56
Speaker
You two know I'm in the van, right? I freaking love that line. and last he was so entertained. Like he was like smirking like, which it would Yeah.
01:40:07
Speaker
i yeah To be in his shoes. Like I wonder what he must be thinking about their whole thing. Yeah. That's a good question. Cause I, I don't think as much as Sean doesn't think that Lassie doesn't like him.
01:40:21
Speaker
I don't think that Lassie dislikes Sean. Yeah. But I think he, especially over time, becomes extremely protective of Juliet. h So I'm sure this is like, a is he a good person for you?
01:40:36
Speaker
Kind of a ah situation. Yeah. While also knowing that there is a lot of, there's a lot going on between the two of them. And also probably not really wanting to get involved because he's Lasseter and he kind of hates him.
01:40:48
Speaker
So, so I'm sure, yeah, this is very comical for him in ah this very high stakes. Yeah. I do feel like at this point he's just entertained. And like, I wonder if he even conceives of how serious it might get or if they just have this kind of flirtation. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
01:41:03
Speaker
and But yeah, I think ultimately they do have this sort of understanding like that they are, they have Juliet in common and they would both.
01:41:16
Speaker
Yes. The end of the earth for her. Yes. They both just want her to be happy at the end of the day. Yeah. So they get to the house. And Sean is told to stay in the car, shocker. He doesn't.
01:41:28
Speaker
left And Jules go to set a perimeter. And in the process of setting up the perimeter, um Sean, you know, pops out at Juliet and essentially is like, you Very reckless.
01:41:42
Speaker
Oh, my God, extremely. She has a gun. without the safety on. We don't know who's going to pop out. Yeah. Very true. and And I feel like him he's like really distracting her. Like she needs to focus. on Completely. I do love the shift. Like she's kind of just like, what, what, what?
01:42:00
Speaker
And then when he finally does say like, I just want you to be happy. And then they kind of turn the corner. oh like he's asking her about the date. going to take her. and And it's Mario's. And he's like, Mario's, it's not a little stuffy. And then she's like turning around the corner. And then it's like you see her just change. And she's like, yeah like their bread. And she is like, yes, focused. Yes. In it.
01:42:19
Speaker
Yes. He's got job to do now. And they get inside and the wife the wife is there. Yeah. Yay, Sean. And this part always confused me a little bit. they They noticed that someone just took off running through the yard. And I understand why Sean got to that conclusion.
01:42:38
Speaker
However, we never see who that person is or like how they're connected. So I'm always kind of like, oh, there were three people involved? There were three because they do say... Like the next thing they say, i think when they're maybe in the car, when they're getting going back or whatever.
01:42:54
Speaker
Let me find it. But they say that that person, or I think gave up the other guy, Phelps. Ah. So we never see this other person.
01:43:08
Speaker
Okay. Okay. Yeah. Morgan Phelps is the second man inside the bank. Canine caught the guy running away from the house who gave him up. But I don't get the bank manager. Grizzling knew the bank was going to be robbed. So yeah, there are the three people.
01:43:21
Speaker
Got it. Got it. And yeah, one was with the wife. one is in the bank. And then there's the manager. Got it. Okay. That makes sense. I think I always glossed over the or it washed over me. Yeah. It all goes so fast. like It does. They talk so fast. They say so much. It does. And that, yes, that's very true. Sometimes it's easy to miss little,
01:43:44
Speaker
um little details i do love that once you know they've called someone to go catch this guy or like lassie goes in the general direction that they they're like very gentle with phil's wife and yeah on immediately is like i have a message from your husband yeah just like so sweet such a beautiful little like call back to that moment yeah and yeah and he is very He can just be very kind.
01:44:14
Speaker
He can when he wants to. Yes. And they end up getting some information out of the wife, which is very helpful. We end up finding out that um she, although blindfolded, could see the shoes of the perpetrators. And one of the pairs of shoes was very distinctive. It was a set of brown wingtips. And I am obsessed with the shoe montage.
01:44:39
Speaker
Oh, it's. it's so good yeah and seeing how his brain works yes exactly i think that's why i love it so much because you get to kind of see the inner workings of not just him identifying things but like literally in real time remembering all of the shoes identifying the correct shoe and then like quote unquote psychically placing the shoes on each person's foot yeah yeah Figuring out which one it matches with, which one it fits, which one it wouldn't make sense with, and then coming to the conclusion that it's the right guy. like He finds the right guy in the end, which is crazy.
01:45:16
Speaker
Yeah. Amazing. just love it so much. Yeah. Did we... I feel like we're kind of cut – like the movement between them and the bank starts going faster, I feel like.
01:45:29
Speaker
And so in the bank, like, well, it's kind of being revealed that there's a third guy, and then we go back to the bank, and Gus, fearless Guster. Fearless Guster. Yeah.
01:45:40
Speaker
Oh, because Phil kind of loses it and goes off on the manager and says and like makes him get up. and Because Sean mentioned that we know that the manager is in on it to Phil. um And so Phil drags him away. He's like, tell me where my wife is, blah, blah, blah.
01:45:56
Speaker
And Gus kind of follows. And then we get the reveal. There's a third guy. And then... Phil gets knocked out and there's a gun to Gus's head once he gets there.
01:46:12
Speaker
Yeah! Oh, Another? what it This is another thing we're counting. Is this five times that a gun's been pulled on Gus? Yes. At least. If you count.
01:46:24
Speaker
mean, you could count the whole bank robbery as one, maybe. That's true. Six times. We'll call it six. Yeah, there you go.
01:46:36
Speaker
And, yeah, this is when Luntz Gases the place, essentially. Jules and Lassie and Sean are on their way back. They're hoping that everyone's still inside the bank. Yeah, they we've got to get there before they go in. But they don't.
01:46:49
Speaker
They get there and it's already been tear gassed or whatever. Because it doesn't really seem like anyone's eyes hurt. But regardless, everyone's out of the bank. Yeah. I think, yeah, I feel like it is tear gassed. But in in a TV, in a psych way where no it's fine.
01:47:06
Speaker
It's not actually damaging. Yeah. Yeah. So they they get there and we finally have Gus like back with us outside. Everyone is apparently gone. They're interviewing the bank manager, but Phelps is like nowhere to be seen.
01:47:22
Speaker
So they go inside the bank just to, I guess, scope out the place again. And they're like looking around, looking around, looking around. And Sean notices that in the manager's office, one of the air vent...
01:47:38
Speaker
grills meshes i don't know things filter metal plates does not have all of the screws in it that it should some of them are on the ground but instead of mentioning that out loud he says that he went to the sewer he's psychically being directed to the sewer and convinces essentially luntz that he needs to go luntz is skeptical at first he is but maybe by this point he's like okay fine yeah goes into the sewer and almost as soon as Luntz is out of the room Sean is like he's in the air vents like we yeah well yeah even before even says that he's like Gus help me boost Lassie up Lita doesn't even tell them what's going on but no what oh yeah actually I think it yeah and he's like Phelps is inside one of these decks and Lassie's like what yeah how and yes they're all so convinced by his original performance
01:48:31
Speaker
Oh, of course. Well, he is an actor. Absolutely. Um... And I'm always, I love the like bit of someone being in the air vents because it's so unrealistic, but also just so much fun.
01:48:46
Speaker
and turns out he is also a diehard thing. Kind of. Yeah. Totally a diehard thing. Yeah. But that, I mean, I feel like that's one of the iconic scenes is him. Yeah. wished In the air vent. um Or duct, whatever it's called.
01:48:59
Speaker
um Oh yeah. I guess that's the vent.
01:49:04
Speaker
the
Resolution and Reflection
01:49:05
Speaker
middle of the heart the rest is the duct. You got there. Yeah, you know. So Lassie gets boosted up into the duct and, you know, kind of crawl crawls in there and ends up finding Phelps after some wrestling and grabbing of a leg. Gets him by the ankle. don't know how they get out of that situation. always think that too, but I guess...
01:49:29
Speaker
You know, maybe someone cut them down. Who knows? He drags them out. And ah Sean's like, good job, partner. And of course, this causes, you know, Gus to go into a little tiff of partner.
01:49:40
Speaker
Excuse me. What was that? Better than boy cat. Yes. And it is fun because last episode, Gus was giving him hard time about Jules being his new partner, too. So it's...
01:49:53
Speaker
we're kind of seeing just like the team yeah really for yeah because there's just every with they're all partners yeah it's a unit yeah yeah totally sometimes they you know veer off into different subsects of the of the unit and uh that's it we've been we've been caught the hostage situation is over the robbery is over And we head back to the site. amazing knowing that they weren't there.
01:50:22
Speaker
Like how, I wonder how everybody made sense of Phil, the manager. Like did they get all the right people? guess we assume they did, but I wonder how that all shook out.
01:50:34
Speaker
Yeah, I would guess so because the manager was still in the bank. They caught the third guy before the tear gassing and then Lassie grabs Morgan. And yeah and phil is tied up so it would be clear that he was not calling this right right
01:50:55
Speaker
very exciting stuff back to the psych office so cute jewel stops by in her adorable date night outfit Even though the date's been canceled because Cameron couldn't get the sewer smell out of his skin.
01:51:12
Speaker
which Weird. Weird. Yeah. Imagine that. Huh. her And i I love that this turns into like a little date for them.
01:51:26
Speaker
of Sean having, of course, on the zip line some, what does he call them? Ballpark Franks. Yeah. And I love, too, the like the contrast between the last episode, like he made that fancy dinner when she appeared like to try to win her over. And then like this is a lot more them. um And more similar.
01:51:49
Speaker
And it's more similar, too, to the like the roller skate date. Yes. Like they're kind of, as we have talked about, like reliving high school, that's kind of, you know, the roller rink and the walk on the pier, like, which is also what you did with Abigail.
01:52:03
Speaker
Yeah. Or would have done, but didn't. ah Correct. Correct. And then but also the contrast between like her date she's would have had her is going to have with lunch, which is at Mario's, that stuffy, like a much more older person.
01:52:19
Speaker
Yeah. Date, which is more like the crab cake dinner that he was working on. So just there's a lot of layers between like yeah yeah these little dates. And it's fun that they are like, they are sort of dating.
01:52:33
Speaker
Yes. This is their second date in two episodes. Like, yeah, there's some dating, but there, yeah, there's no like, no handholding. Yes. Like they're not calling it dating. they're Right.
01:52:45
Speaker
Yeah. There's no finality to it. Yeah. Yeah. It's a slow burn. Oh my god, the slowest of slow burns. The best things. The richest things. Oh, yeah.
01:53:00
Speaker
Yep. that And that's it. And then roll credits. Yeah.
01:53:08
Speaker
Oh, such a good one. So good. I can't believe we're like We're here. know. Season three. i feel like every episode in season three is so iconic. It is.
01:53:22
Speaker
It is, which is interesting when we consider, like, we've been talking about how season three is dealing with a lot more, like, serious themes of, like, failure and, like, struggle and two steps forward, one step back, or whatever the the saying is.
01:53:38
Speaker
um It's interesting that they're still so, like, iconic and they still all do fit so much together. you know, in like the unique episodes of Psych Funny, but still very, still serious.
01:53:52
Speaker
We're serious, but still funny. Yeah. Yeah, had a lot of steaks. Yeah. Oh gosh. Also, I'm remembering as we were talking about like the different dinners and stuff, we mentioned, I was listening to our last episode. episode Oh, yeah. ah There is some awkwardness when Jules comes in to the crab cake dinner.
01:54:11
Speaker
that's what going to call it. And he's like, I don't know, you know, what,
01:54:19
Speaker
he you know Whatever he says. And were' were talking about how it's similar to Henry calling Maddie and being like, I mean, I thought maybe, you know, if you hadn't eaten, she had a salad. so but boom but but
01:54:37
Speaker
So funny. And it's very cute to think. And especially Sean being so suave with the ladies as he yes pretends to be. It's fun too.
01:54:50
Speaker
ah see some sort of hereditary awkwardness hereditary awkwardness i love that yeah well it i you know i feel like the stakes are high with this one yeah exactly like it matters yeah with maddie it it matters like he's in love like he loves maddie you know what i mean and it matters with jules it does you know so it's not it's not so easy to just be like that's another date you This could mean something, you know?
01:55:21
Speaker
Yeah. And really trying, like, i mean, all the effort. Yeah. But it's not very Sean, like this fancy dinner and stuff. And that's why, like, it is sweet that they end up having – you know, he these dates, quote unquote, that are a lot more suited to them.
01:55:42
Speaker
But it's like, he you know, he knows this matters. He's trying to kind of put his best foot forward in this. Yes, woo her. Yeah, exactly. So, yeah, very sweet.
01:55:54
Speaker
Yeah.
01:55:57
Speaker
Yeah. And then our next episode. Oh, yes. It's Christmas again. is this? So yeah you said last time Christmas Joy, right? it Was the title? Christmas Joy. is this the one with joy? This is joy.
01:56:10
Speaker
oh my. Talk about two steps forward, one step back. Yeah. Oh, my God. Yeah. Oh, my gosh. Wow, I'm excited. And I hope, I mean, we've got to come up with like a treat to have or something.
01:56:22
Speaker
Because it's going to be a Christmas party. Yes. We got to pick one of the things that they have. What do the, because we, is this when we get the, no, no. We got Guster sniffing stuff beforehand. There's got to be something that they, because there is like a meal and like a, some kitchen time.
01:56:38
Speaker
Yes, there is. Right. So we got to, we got to discuss what we're going to do. I just, I love anytime there's like a Gus family episode. Yeah. I just love it because we get so much of Sean family and Gus is so much a part of the the dynamic here that when we get Gus family, I'm like this, I understand you so well now. Like, you know? Yeah. i feel like And it's so fun to meet Joy because – Yes.
01:57:03
Speaker
I mean, she is very much an invention. Like, we've never met her before. i don't think we ever talk about her again, really. yeah um but But she – She fits.
01:57:15
Speaker
She does. Anyway. Totally fits. Which is fun how effective that is. Because I, you know, not every show can do that well. Yeah. And I think it's fun to, like, she fits within the world. She fits within in the family. She also, like, just so perfectly fits into, like, the life and time of Sean.
01:57:36
Speaker
Like, i I completely believe, like, everything that happens with two of them, you know? Yeah, and it's fun to see that too, like high school childhood Sean and his best friend. thirty Yeah.
01:57:50
Speaker
And like reliving it because again, these themes. very excited. Yeah, we'll come up with a treat. Me too, yeah. We'll let you know what we're what we're making. If anything, just maybe like hot cocoa.
01:58:02
Speaker
Yeah. Always a good Christmas time. Cocoa cookies. Yes. Ooh, cookies. I love cookies. All right, we'll discuss. And if you'd like to join us next week, Feel free.
01:58:13
Speaker
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01:58:35
Speaker
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