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S3 After Pshow: For the Love of Guest Stars
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Series spoilers abound! We’re looking at all of Season 3 in our no-holds-barred Psych After Pshow! We’re talking Quattro Quesos Dos Fritos, bloopers, behind the scenes jokes, and future themes. So grab yourself a pineapple and join Kylie and Skyler on this new episode of Phsysics 101!
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Introduction to Psy6101 and Podcast Overview
00:00:21
Speaker
Alright, everyone and welcome to the Psy6101 where we discuss everything about the world of Psyche and the antics of Sean and Gus in Sunny Santa Barbara. I'm Skylar and this is my partner Kylie and today we'll be talking about all of season three of the famed TV show Psyche.
Culinary Adventures: Making 'Cuatro Quesitos Fritos'
00:00:39
Speaker
We made it! After show, after show. do do do after show and it's a big one our biggest culinary undertaking oh my kylie i was questioning my life making these i know the amount research the amount of recipes i looked at videos i'm like
00:01:01
Speaker
and I really think there must have been an easier way to do this. Now, I don't, I don't know how. talk about it. What did you do? Okay. So we made cuatro quesitos fritos for anyone who's wondering, um because I am lazy.
00:01:12
Speaker
I bought some mashed potatoes because I figured croquette, right? I bought some mashed potatoes. I bought some shredded cheese, four different shredded cheese. I mean i bought like a packet, like variety for cheese, you know, and I put like an egg and some flour in the mashed potato and then I made a little ball put some cheese in it of course I'm going to put it into like a circle and then I breaded it and fried it and then afterwards to heat it up I put it in the air fryer so that it was two fries hey
00:01:45
Speaker
um But trying to make the mashed potato into a circle, it was such a mess. And of course, my cat was like, what are you doing? And I have just messy, gunky hands.
00:01:58
Speaker
right I will say my dog was just like sitting watching like the hours that I was in the kitchen. And feel like he's exhausted today. Just watching you.
00:02:08
Speaker
Time. Because he's like waiting for me to drop something. Yeah. What did you do? How did you make them? um I also went the croquette route, which I i know... ah So in reading recipes and in watching... There's like a little slumber party extra of Sean and Gus, quote unquote, like make... Talking about making them.
00:02:32
Speaker
um And they use like actual potatoes. But I was like, I want to make something that I'm going to be okay with eating. Yes. And I don't know, that didn't sound that good. And like, I'm not a huge...
00:02:44
Speaker
I was never a huge cheese person. Now I don't eat cheese at all. I did put vegan cheese in there. um i made like five with queso. And then the rest I just did Wow, yours are big. I feel like mostly because I could not close this stupid thing.
00:03:03
Speaker
just kept adding more and more potatoes. You know what also probably didn't help you was that you like having like... Well, maybe like with four pieces of cheese. Also, in um like in the videos, and I also watched like, I'm just like saying a bunch of starts of sentences.
00:03:23
Speaker
Baking with Babish. I watched that video where he made them. um And he was doing like cubes, I think. Yes, I saw the cubes. um Or actually, I think he graded them for the first go-round and then on his mashed potato version, he did cubes.
00:03:37
Speaker
ah But I just like got...
Deep Fryer Tales and Vegan Experiments
00:03:41
Speaker
um like some shredded vegan cheese and put like a little bit in there. Yeah.
00:03:47
Speaker
And I had also done like 10 without cheese before that, or maybe more. And so maybe that was a good practice run. And then I just was like putting a little bit of cheese in there. thats Um, but yeah, so I did the mashed potatoes also, despite the, the true way i kind of, I went based on a,
00:04:07
Speaker
a croquet recipe. Oh, that was smart. And so I went they started there and then um extrapolated. ah Yeah. And I broke out my deep fryer for the first time, which I purchased in February. How'd it um It went really well. I was like so afraid of it. you know like It is kind of terrifying. Even the directions make it seem like you are going to kill someone.
00:04:33
Speaker
yeah the The plug is called a breakaway plug. And so like it just magnets in. And then like if an emergency happens, you can just like take it out real fast. And I was like, this seat am I like...
00:04:46
Speaker
I'm going to burn down my house. I'm going to kill family. What is this? That's crazy. Wow. And then doing it, it was like, not that big of a deal at all. Like, I don't think it even sprayed.
00:04:59
Speaker
oh good. Um, I also made some apple fritters while I had it all going. Delicious. And i I did those first because I was like, I would rather have that flavor affect these. Yes.
00:05:10
Speaker
Than vice versa. Agreed. Good call. And I think that was a good practice run because with the freaking breakaway plug, it kind of loosened. And so at one point, they just were not looking good at all. And I was like, what is happening? And then I realized it was off.
00:05:24
Speaker
because the plug came out and so it's like i'm like i feel like it's not hot enough and then sure enough you were right unplugged yeah um oh man yeah last night i tried the cheese list and now i'm going for the i saved the cheese for this try the cheese let me know how the cheese is i know i was debating the potato version like the whole potato version until I saw Babish do it and he was like it's gummy and i was like oh yeah you that that doesn't sound good I know that's and it also seemed I mean the mashed potato you had to roll it up but like ah potato like keeping that shape and keeping it together and stuff seemed hard
00:06:06
Speaker
Yes. So, yeah. So blasphemous, but it is what it is. And then I'm not really, I've never in my life been a sour cream person, but I did get some vegan sour cream.
00:06:16
Speaker
I refuse. so I'm not a sour cream person all. It's actually, it's not bad. And um the interesting thing without the cheese in it, which I haven't even gotten to the cheese in there, but I was like, I feel like it does need something else.
00:06:28
Speaker
Yeah. I can feel that right now.
00:06:32
Speaker
a fried potato ball which could be worse for sure mean pretty delicious but I put like I just mixed like just I well didn't actually look at the spices but I couldn't find ancho chili powder that was like my thing I was like i guess I should look it wasn't in like the Latin section or yeah anywhere convenient so I was like whatever so I just put some chili regular chili powder in there and it's pretty good yeah it's not bad I think I see some melty cheese in there
00:07:08
Speaker
yeah i mean it's pretty good right i mean croquettes are pretty delicious so it's i feel like it's hard to go wrong with potato yeah exactly my son i never know what he's gonna think of anything but he saw them and he was like i want to try that oh all right and he yeah he loved it oh there you go cheese or no cheese No cheese.
00:07:33
Speaker
I had put those ones away already. but I don't know if he'd like the cheese ones. Maybe. I feel like I didn't put a ton in there either because it was hard to close it up. and i'm not I wasn't excited about that element.
Exploring 'Cuatro Quesos Dos Fritos' and Podcast Aspirations
00:07:49
Speaker
Went a little sparse on the cheese. but it's mar so Maybe he'd be cool with it. and I'm glad he liked them. so yes This was our our attempt at the Cuatro Quesos Dos Fritos.
00:08:03
Speaker
which I was hoping we watched where we listened to some of the psychologists are in for the last three episodes. I was hoping that they were going to discuss the Quattro Cuesos of Fritos, but they they kind of just lightly touched on it. that Yeah, someone wanted it have bit brought it up. Yeah, I think it's, you know, I mean, it's totally fun.
00:08:23
Speaker
But when the guests aren't like, James or Steve like someone who wrote or directed or whatever like maybe wasn't part of that whole process of inventing the fries and where i maybe just like it wouldn't be as they just maybe don't even know yeah that's good point yeah I do like I like hearing from the the guests I think it's really fun I mean i loved when um I loved
00:08:54
Speaker
James being there, I loved Jimmy Simpson being there was awesome. I loved hearing him talk about all the Mary Lightly stuff. yeah But it is... it is kind of fun to get the super behind the scenes take. Yeah.
00:09:07
Speaker
Of like the director or yeah, the writers or, or whatever it is like James talking about Tuesday, the 17th. I was like, Oh my God. Like I know that I was taking notes of stuff, like for foundations. i don't know if you noticed in that document. Cause I feel like way back when we were going to do scary, Sherry, we talked about like,
00:09:26
Speaker
if he had mentioned any slashers right that so we could watch one night yeah and he was like this is a reference to this is a reference yes so yeah more to come in slashers i guess but yes um we are we have time oh yeah plenty we're not even halfway through the whole series yet even though this is like episode 60 or something crazy Yeah, this was a good season. I liked the season.
00:09:56
Speaker
i thought it was fun to get to see us really getting in a groove of like what Psych looks like and how we interact with this world, but in our own particular kind of unique way, which I think is fun.
00:10:11
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah, something that was interesting from what James was talking about.
Psych's Creative Evolution and Network Challenges
00:10:18
Speaker
in the Tuesday the 17th was like the conversations that they were having with the network about like, can do this? We've never done this before. Like, are we like, can we show his visions this way? Can we like go this dark?
00:10:32
Speaker
Yeah. I love that they really did push it. I feel like we talked about sort of in the last couple episodes how it, it is kind of like they're throwing down the gauntlet. Like, yeah this is psych now. Like we do what we want. Yes.
00:10:47
Speaker
Yeah, totally. And so it does feel like a turning point for the show, those last two, because, i mean, Tuesday the 17th being so, i mean, feeling very different.
00:10:59
Speaker
Yeah, yeah. But also being out there in comparison. Yeah, like, I feel like we're so used to it, too, because we just cycle through the show all the time. Right, that's true. But, like, you really stop and think, like, they but just like he was talking about, like, to those were, like, incredibly bold moves.
00:11:15
Speaker
Yeah. And... in terms of tone and violence and all that stuff and and still being like really fun and then evening with mr yang also also going places they had never yeah gone before like and now it's like because they have done that it's like they can do whatever they want right Yeah, and I think they're just going to continue to push that boundary of like white what is acceptable. like i mean, come on, we're going to get to a point where Woody's eating food off of dead bodies, essentially. it's going to get...
00:11:52
Speaker
him yeah it's going to get so insane but yeah because it's funny it's like okay yeah ah yeah and we talked we i mean obviously we've talked i feel like several times about how like you know you couldn't necessarily put woody in season one right right and i feel like and they um in the yang psychologist talking to jimmy simpson about like mary and and how he's like definitely one of the best sort of bit parts that comes in yeah and and they reference Woody. And I do feel like having a character like Mary allows characters like Woody to exist, you know, like they're getting more specific and weird. um And it's just, the more they do that, the more they can do that.
00:12:44
Speaker
Yeah. Which is just really fun. Yeah. And I think Tuesday the 17th in particular is like a very, And Yang, for that matter. The two of them are very ah important for the series as a whole.
00:13:00
Speaker
um I mean, James talks about how, like, it's his directorial debut and how no one was going to let him fall. And it was all just, like, people who love and support him and who he loves and supports. um
Directing and Music: Behind the Scenes of Psych
00:13:11
Speaker
But I think what a successful Tuesday 17th does...
00:13:14
Speaker
does is allows them to really be as out of the box as possible. Because if they did the Tuesday of the 17th and it like didn't hit or people were just kind of like, that was a week, like, why did they do that?
00:13:29
Speaker
um We would have never really seen it again. But to have such a specific thing, and James even talks about how they initially wanted him to do a a Hitchcock. Right. next season's finale um and that maybe he said wouldn't have fit here um but this being successful allows them to then do a really wicked out of the box hitchcock version at the end of season ah four And that be successful as well because now, yeah, we've kind of like taken our slight, you know, hill upwards towards the more insane yeah versions of Psych.
00:14:04
Speaker
And I love how in that story, I think you were saying Steve was like, well, what else can you do? and And James's thing is like slashers. And and I feel like that.
00:14:20
Speaker
I see that with like SNL people when they work together. It's like, like when you do sketch comedy and stuff, it's like if people have a skill, h you put it in there. Right, right, right. And so it feels like that where like, yes, James and never directed before.
00:14:38
Speaker
But he has this wealth of knowledge about this genre. Yeah, oh my God. And so to take an episode and allow him to like really go for it on that and like just yeah throw everything out the wall, like every, like so many little references and stuff that are so cool to him.
00:14:54
Speaker
And then have all these other people who know how to make a TV show. Right. Like that whole combination creates something incredibly cool. Yeah. Yeah, I loved how he said at one point um that this experience was like getting to make a ah something along lines of getting to make a slasher movie with all my best friends and not having to raise the money to pay for it. was like, I love that.
00:15:21
Speaker
Like you can really i I feel like I was really like, oh, yeah, you were just having fun, which is so much of what we love about this show is just them really having fun. hmm.
00:15:32
Speaker
so yeah and it's cool that like psych evolves into this show where they can just take it all those places because
00:15:45
Speaker
like if you made like an indie horror film you know that's like a lot of new you know it'd be like different characters different sets and stuff but likes like psych just becomes like malleable in a way where you can put those characters anywhere yes um Like Twin Peaks, which, mean you know, you can just be like, let's take them there.
00:16:03
Speaker
Yes. Which is like kind of weird, but amazing. Yeah. James was talking too about um the Shining episode with Lassie in the apartment. i was like, yeah, you're right. Like on, in many other situations, I would have been like, this is weird and obscure.
00:16:18
Speaker
Like, I don't really understand why we're doing this, but it is kind of the backbone of what Psych becomes. Is that kind of off the referential? Yeah. Exactly.
00:16:29
Speaker
And like going all the way. Yeah. And they, cause they always had kind of references and, you know, they've done a little bit of like allusions to things like in Scary Sherry, like to go from Scary Sherry to Tuesday the 17th, like Scary Sherry is a, it's inspired by the horror genre, but it's a procedural TV show episode.
00:16:56
Speaker
Yeah. And then Tuesday 17th is like, horror movie that happens to be happens to be a psych episode wait did you hear that the um psych out that i guess is not anywhere which i was like holy god where maggie said it's the the creepy pinata that james made jumps out of the water i was like ah the scariest part of that movie thank god they didn't include that i might have just cried but yeah again like so referential and so funny and like yeah i don't know there's there's something very like oh
00:17:37
Speaker
So interesting. When someone can do that and has such, like you said, such a wealth of knowledge on a particular topic that they can use all of these different things, but also make it something new at the same time. I feel like that's really fun.
00:17:52
Speaker
Yeah. And bring it into this world and like make it still work on all the levels that a psych episode should work. And still make sense. Yeah. And I thought it was so interesting. James talked a lot about um the B plot of that episode, which we loved.
00:18:07
Speaker
We talked extensively about. And i actually found it very heartwarming that James was like so worried about about that because it's really a very important part of Lassie's character. And he even says it's like a turning point, like a mini turning point for him, which it really is.
00:18:25
Speaker
um so like, yeah, he's getting to do all these really fun, like cool, wacky slasher things, but at the same time, not forgetting that there are other things happening to these characters at the same time. And that still needs to have the same amount of attention put to it.
00:18:40
Speaker
Yeah. That really is like a fascinating challenge, like for a director. Because you're basically making two different movies at the same time. Yeah.
00:18:51
Speaker
Or two different, you know, you're putting on two different things at the same time. Yeah, yeah. um Because in like a typical episode, you know, the A plot, P plot, like the vibes are pretty much, they're going to be the same.
00:19:02
Speaker
Yeah. um
00:19:05
Speaker
But yeah, and it doesn't feel incongruous or anything. like Both are so effective and complement each other in like a really fascinating way. And it is horrific what Lassie's going through too, but in a very different way. yeah And I wonder if James' touch there adds kind of just a unique specialness to how that yeah is executed.
00:19:34
Speaker
also loved how he talked like how they talked about him wanting to do the hardest shot ever and it reminded me how back in yeah last season's finale that steve franks also did his first directing or his direct royal debut he wanted to do everything and i just think that's fun that they're like yeah got the vision kindred spirits yes very similar yeah i loved that um One of the other things I really enjoyed that James talked about was his take on like music in the episode and how he actually will allow the actors to listen to the music that will be playing during the scenes so that they like get the vibe yeah of it. And he brought up that one song that we talked about, Gonna Be a Good Day. And I was like, oh.
00:20:21
Speaker
Yeah. I'm so glad Lassie heard that. I think they said like they knew that was going to be it like when they were writing it or something. like Yeah, they already had it. well to And I love like these being the kinds of filmmakers who are thinking about music that much. Yeah. That part of their process from the beginning.
00:20:41
Speaker
Yeah. Because, yeah, that's like such an effective moment. um i mean, they wrote it to that. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, and it what I feel like we even said it in the episode. Like, that was the perfect song for that moment. Like, gut-wrenching but hopeful.
00:21:00
Speaker
Like, things have been really hard, but something good is going to come out of this, you know?
00:21:07
Speaker
And then we heard so much about, i again, I loved having Jimmy Simpson hi the ah the Yang episode from The Psychologist. First of all, I just love the idea that him and James are like best friends.
00:21:23
Speaker
So cute. Yeah. Because they seem like, but again, kindred spirits kind of a thing. Like they like all the same kind of creepy, horary, slashery kind things. They have very similar humor. I thought it was funny when Jimmy was, I think it was a fan question of like if it was weird to, or more intense to do a serial killer episode or something. And he was like, but he's generally playing profilers for serial killers. So no.
00:21:48
Speaker
I mean, yeah. And I think we talked about on the episode, like ah how he is like, comes from like a creepy, like the Zodiac. Like we just saw him in a very creepy role.
00:22:02
Speaker
Yeah. Not a creepy role, but a creepy movie. Even if he wasn't creepy, it's like, he's still doing projects that are like. Yeah. That are a little, a little creep, a creepy. little maybey Yeah. Yeah.
00:22:14
Speaker
But yeah, he it was great. And I loved them talking about, we had a lot of questions about Mary and the physicality of Mary and like, where does a Mary come from?
TV Show Influences and Streaming Innovations
00:22:24
Speaker
Yeah.
00:22:25
Speaker
And I feel like we got a lot of that answered, which was cool. h Yeah. That they were going named Pam. Like that's hysterical. like How about Mary? Okay. Yeah. Pam's not allowed, but Mary. Okay.
00:22:39
Speaker
Whatever works. Yeah. And you know, that's a whole nother thing that I don't really think about when When watching shows or when like talking about shows, the network, like the idea of like big brother kind of watching over what you do, it's never something that really comes into my consciousness.
00:22:56
Speaker
But I guess they do really have the final say over what happens regardless as to whether or not it's a part of the vision. Yeah, I feel like that's what makes one of the things that makes TV, and especially like traditional TV formats like so cool is that they have all these challenges and like limitations.
00:23:20
Speaker
um Yeah. And it is there's so many people involved. Yeah. And so yeah bringing a final product and like having to work within the format, the like the structure of advertisements and, you know, whatever else and having like the network influence and all this stuff and like being able to produce something that is still so cool is like just even more cool.
00:23:44
Speaker
Yeah. You know what I've never thought about until just now when you've wouldn you brought it up? Like ads really had...
00:23:53
Speaker
ads really had an impact on our commercials really had an impact on the structure of tv but now that we're moving towards streaming so many streaming services don't have commercials or ads or you watch them like in the beginning you don't watch them in the middle do we think that's really changed like the storytelling structure too think it totally has i feel like the boundaries of ad breaks and And also just your your time slot, like seeing those loose. And I mean, maybe it's spring, but also like, I don't know. You know how sometimes when you have more constraints, like you are more creative and inventive and stuff? Yeah. Like I feel like losing that. Sometimes you see shows sort of lose their,
00:24:41
Speaker
the the urgency or like it just gets a little more unwieldy like like maybe some more structure would benefit the storytelling because it's just like maybe a little too loosey-goosey like all over the place and like yeah um yeah so I do I I am nostalgic for the the golden era of just like TV shows being on TV yeah
00:25:12
Speaker
Yeah, I feel like I've seen, i think it was Quinta Brunson maybe I saw her talk about like like new TV writers, like young people who want to become TV writers sometimes like not wanting to learn the structure of like a network sitcom or like being like, you know, a streaming area like we don't have to.
00:25:34
Speaker
But like she was advocating, if I'm right in it, it was her, advocating for like like you, you still need to know TV, like, yeah, the basics, like as a medium, because it's its own thing. And yeah, and like, I feel like we have talked about before, like, you know, streaming shows often just kind of want to be movies.
00:26:01
Speaker
Right. um Which is like, go make a movie now. Right. um But yeah, so it's interesting. It's like, it's such a, It's very in flux right now, as are a lot of things, because technology changes so rapidly.
00:26:16
Speaker
I know. It's changing so rapidly. Yeah, I was going to say, i i feel like that is a symptom, what you were just saying about you you know young TV writers or newer TV writers, I feel like it's just a symptom of the of the times right now, almost. Everyone wants to just have whatever they want to do they want to do it now. They will not necessarily like learn...
00:26:37
Speaker
All of the steps to doing the things. And and in some instances, and in some realms, um that's possible. In some realms, I would say it's not.
00:26:50
Speaker
Like music, right? You... need to learn how to play like an instrument or you need to learn like the scales ah before you can go and start doing interesting things with the information. Because if you don't even know what it means to begin with, how are you going to do something interesting with it?
00:27:09
Speaker
But, you know, maybe other things that's easier said than done. Like if you want to become a ah famous person on social media, you have one or two viral videos and there you go. Boom, you're done. Right. And that's just like kind of the algorithm. Sometimes I feel like that's just...
00:27:23
Speaker
Yeah. But I mean, even that, I feel like you're probably still putting out a bunch of stuff. Before that happens. one stay Yeah. Right. Right. And yeah, like.
00:27:35
Speaker
no matter what it is, there's probably blogs out there, whatever, talking about how to do it. It helps to know what you're trying to do or know like what, like I think, um, I see that with like, just, just talk about writing also like writing fiction. Like if you don't read books, you're not, you're probably not gonna be able to write a book.
00:27:58
Speaker
Sure. So it's like, you can't just read like, fanfiction or whatever like it's just a different it's a different right structure different format for telling a story um and yeah and tv i feel like i've asked you about what books you read before I'm pretty sure you said you don't read mystery books, but I'm going to tell you.
00:28:23
Speaker
that haven't. I used to be obsessed with Bones, and I was going through some books from my mom's and found all my like Kathy Reich's books.
00:28:36
Speaker
Oh, nice. Who's the author slash forensic anthropologist who inspired that show. um So I definitely read some murder mysteries.
Unique Mystery Formats and Product Placements
00:28:44
Speaker
Okay. ah So yeah this conversation makes me think of one of my favorite newer mystery authors Janice Hallett who her books are created in like non-traditional what I would consider is non-traditional formats so one of them they're books right but the entire book is like a transcript of voice memos so you're reading voice memos
00:29:09
Speaker
And then as you go along, you start to like piece together all the you know different evident pieces of evidence from the case and and whatnot. um But what I love about her books is that although it's in a very nonstandard format, it still kind of follows the standard like mystery genre concept.
00:29:26
Speaker
Yeah. Structure, you know? So you always get an answer at the end. Like a detective always comes in and like tells you, okay, this is what you thought happened, but this is what really happened. Or like, oh, you missed this thing. You know what i mean?
00:29:39
Speaker
So you know what to expect, even though it is unexpected in the way it's written. If you know what Well, I do think that's great example of like someone who knows how to tell a story so they can tell it in a very creative way. Exactly. Exactly.
00:29:55
Speaker
Yeah. Yes. Highly recommend. You just came out with a new one. It's sitting on my... Yes. The Killer Question is the new one by Janice Halland.
00:30:07
Speaker
It's about like a quiz... I was going to say quiz bowl, but that's not really it. It's like pub trivia. um That's that pub trivia. Yeah. Interesting. oh I'm excited.
00:30:18
Speaker
That's fun. That's like... have you Did you ever read where Where'd You Go Bernadette? No. That's a great novel. But that plays with like structure too where you where you get sort of these like first you call them first person sources. First hand.
00:30:34
Speaker
Oh, primary sources. Yeah. that like You'll get like emails and yeah and it's it's been a long time since I've been in school, you know? It's fair. um But yeah, so like it will be just like prose and then you'll get like email exchanges and stuff yeah like kind of pieced together information it's a little mysterious too but yeah love not in a ah murder kind of way but um well Bernadette where'd you go Bernadette she disappears and then tries to find her yeah great book very funny written by a tv writer ah very good all right me write that down because that sounds like fun
00:31:18
Speaker
What else? We also watched the bloopers. We did. Which were so much fun. Yeah. I did actually make some notes on the bloopers. Oh, yes. Do tell. Watching Gus, well, do they run through the mud? That's like a serious stunt.
00:31:35
Speaker
That is tough. Like, he took a real fall. He took a real fall, and then I just, it was so funny, him standing up and going, I'm stuck. Yeah. and just looking down just covered in mud covered I wonder I always wonder in situations like that how many extra like pairs of clothes did they have that's what I was thinking how long did it take to reset that because that's gotta I mean he's covered like you gotta to yeah do that yeah and you think like in watching that episode I don't know I mean I don't really think about the behind the scenes much when I'm watching but like
00:32:11
Speaker
That there'd be movie magic or something, but no, they're just running through the mud. They are. Yeah, literally just running.
00:32:20
Speaker
I also find that fun, though, too Like, when it's just them doing stuff. Like, I loved Dulé in the first Psychologist that we watched talking about how, like, there was no golf ball. Yeah. Yeah.
00:32:33
Speaker
no golf ball and they were just there like pretending there was a golf ball acting amazing yeah like don't know there's something just so fun about thinking that they're standing in the police station yeah you or jimmy simpson talking about how um Was it in this one or the next one? Something about him being on a scooter, but he wasn't really on a scooter in this one.
00:32:59
Speaker
um And how when he's on the scooter, like a ah double had to do it because they didn't want him to do it. But you would never guess that it wasn't him because. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Watched his physicality for hours. i was like, that's.
00:33:13
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. Maybe it was in. Yeah, because I feel like they were talking a lot about all the stunts that they will do and all the running that they'll do. Yes, that's true. They did.
00:33:25
Speaker
Maybe it was part of that. ah Yeah, I think I think you're right. i think it was the second one.
00:33:31
Speaker
um We also got Dulé making a... It's like, these crap cakes are good. They must be from Red Robin, which I feel like we debated whether Red Robin was true product placement. It sounds like yes.
00:33:44
Speaker
I feel like that's, yeah, that confirmed it. We also got so much with the... So much with a three-hole punch that Kylie actually sent an additional video. And thank you because I was so like, did I miss something?
00:33:58
Speaker
Yeah. If you Google scythe three-hole punch, maybe you already know this. listen Maybe we're just on the loop. Yeah. I do feel like I am out of the loop on Psych Stuff because I wasn't really participating in fandom for it at the time that it was on.
00:34:18
Speaker
um I never really have. so like there yeah i never i haven't watched like on all their panels and stuff. so Me either, by the way.
00:34:31
Speaker
Yeah, I like that we... are, um you know, enjoying some of those things now as part of our revisiting. um Yeah. Psych three-hole punch through like a Reddit thread that shares a a YouTube video.
00:34:44
Speaker
That was how I came across it. um But it was also mentioned in the psych wiki and I couldn't, I like tried to figure out cause I went through all the episodes and And in one of them, it talked about how in this, it told that story basically that that in the script, it's a three whole punches.
00:34:59
Speaker
Right. um And James said it wrong. And so the writer came and said like, no, that's funny or you have to say this. And then how that became a thing. And then in the blooper reel, it like kept happening. And i was like, what is this?
00:35:09
Speaker
Is there more to this? Yeah. So yeah. Yeah. Well, like a real behind behind the scenes inside joke. that didn't really make it into the series but but it did say in the wiki that in the a nightmare on state street when gus holds up a three-hole puncher and all the zombies start laughing at him oh that's so that's really finally and like which is one day second to last episode or third to last um
00:35:41
Speaker
they got it in so now we have that foundation for us yes bonus besides six foundations my three-hole puncher
00:35:56
Speaker
yeah the christmas dancing was adorable oh my gosh the christmas dancing so cute and i also loved um the extremely heightened scream in True Realize when the guys are in the back of the car.
00:36:14
Speaker
They just... Yeah, they can pull a scream out of anywhere, can't they? They are, yeah. or In those laughs that they were doing, like, Suley's laugh especially with the three-hole punch. Like, it's like a specific... It is sort of fake, but like... So full-body, like...
00:36:34
Speaker
It's just incredible. And I love especially the one, the three-hole punch gag when they're in the car. If you remember the one that I'm talking about, I swear to God, Jule starts laughing and he's laughing so emphatically. Yes. James Roday actually starts laughing.
00:36:55
Speaker
Yeah, that was adorable. So cute. It's quite a skill. um Again, amazing. Yes. I know. It really, you know, i feel like the the characters in the show are just so synonymous with the people. I mean, you even hear like Maggie and Tim say like, oh, me, like when I did this.
00:37:15
Speaker
Yeah. Yes, you did it. But it was, you know, it was Jules or it was Lassie or whoever. But they're so synonymous with the characters that it's really easy to forget. that they are acting through all this when they were like acting was like oh yeah I do feel like with James and Dulé particularly like watching them or hearing them talk as themselves they really do have like a different feel to how they carry themselves which is again a testament to the performance yeah
00:37:49
Speaker
well should we talk plot it did have some notes like the characters oh sure last time we talked about like where we left them and where we think we're going yes yes let's do it but something that came up that i loved in the tuesday the 17th discussion was james talking about how i think it yeah okay i think james and tim are kind of talking about the cumulative effect of Jules
Character Development and Relationships in Psych
00:38:22
Speaker
on Lassie. Like how that is demonstrated in yes this art, like in this whole subplot that she's not even a part of. Like right how that kind of growth for him is so much from their friendship and like the influence she's had. And then Maggie chimed in with how you also see that in her plot in that episode because yeah she has to really own that investigation and like is confronting a...
00:38:47
Speaker
A serial killer slash villain guy. Yeah. um And is it just like really has to be the one in charge.
00:38:58
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. and i thought that was really cool and i had not thought about it that way um and i feel like we can also tie that back to sean and gus like we were talking about how you know not feeling like a a very explicit gus arc ending here but i do feel like yeah we talk about that We have talked about the influence that they have on each other, of course, but like and what we do see from Gus in these last couple episodes is, like which which we did talk about, but like his commitment to Psyche and like how much more confident he is in these like very scary situations and... like
00:39:42
Speaker
with Yang, like, wanting to see it through and stuff, which, like, two seasons ago, maybe he would not have done that, you know? Totally, yeah. He would not have reacted that way to any of that stuff. Yeah. Which we kind of talked about, you know, just Fearless Guster being on display which is so much growth for him because he is kind of more of fraidy cat.
00:40:12
Speaker
and thinking about where he's been in this season like he was in a bank standoff robbery thing yeah whatever you call it I mean and maybe Fearless Guster is the arc for him because in episode one he is having to be Fearless Guster with the ghost m yes turns out to be a fake ghost yeah by the end of this season he is like holding his own with like even I already beat him like that being yeah yeah yeah I feel like you know if we're gonna you know if we're gonna talk about the whole like Lassie rubbing off on Jules Jules rubbing off on Lassie I think in this case Sean's rubbed off on Gus in the sense that like some of his confidence in this situation is kind of rubbed off like James can seemingly, James, Sean can seemingly walk into any situation and just seem as if like, I've got it. Right. like yeah I can figure this out. Don't worry.
00:41:14
Speaker
And Gus really functioned as that for Sean in these last couple of episodes or at least of the last two episodes. Of being able to like, I'm the rock. You do what you got to do, but I'm here. i we'll We'll be okay. I'm not going anywhere.
00:41:29
Speaker
I'm not going to run like you were saying he might have done two seasons ago. um But I've got us. And I think that that is a lot of growth for for Gus, who really came into this not confident in himself, not necessarily confident in Sean, and not necessarily confident in the whole business.
00:41:45
Speaker
And now he really will see it through. Yeah. Yeah. and We've talked too about like, you know, his, his sense of self-worth and like yeah this, the theme of how he is not living up to his potential.
00:42:00
Speaker
um And I feel like we can, in that confidence that you're talking about, like you also see how, what makes a valuable life is like not necessarily your day job or like, yeah, how you make most of your money or whatever.
00:42:22
Speaker
um and we kind of saw that, come up in the reunion episode because like he, he was talking about himself as a pharmaceutical salesman and stuff, which, which again is fine. you know, that's his job.
00:42:39
Speaker
It keeps him, and keeps them afloat. Yes. um and So like, that's an amazing job. um But that is not what earns him. Like, you know, that girl is not interested that.
00:42:55
Speaker
But then when he starts talking about the cases and stuff, it's like he is becoming a more well-rounded person where there's just more to him than like the box that people want to put him in.
00:43:07
Speaker
Right. Like he's just a pharmaceutical salesman. He didn't go to Ivy League college, whatever. Like he's doing so much more than any of that could ever represent. Yeah. Well, and I kind of feel like that's the show.
00:43:23
Speaker
Yeah. You know, that, like, we're not, we're, in you know, things are nuanced. We meander. Like, they're our favorite kind of things to reference with the show. Like, you know, you are not just,
00:43:40
Speaker
um you know, Juliette or Lassie are not, they're not just cops, right? Gus is not just a pharmaceutical salesman. Sean is not just someone who never holds down a job, right? Mm-hmm.
00:43:52
Speaker
They have much more to them. Yeah. yeah And they're not just. You know, Sean's not just like. interested development like right they're not just child children right they're not just grown-ups like that works for that theme too that yeah like everything and we've talked about like just living in this kind of these gray areas which a lot of times people don't want to exist in um but yeah we're definitely seeing that play out on many different levels here yeah
00:44:29
Speaker
Okay, so we've got Lassie, we've got Jules, we've got Gus. Where do we think, how has someone rubbed off on Sean? Because we know kind of how he ends with like the um whole Abigail Jules sitch.
00:44:45
Speaker
Yeah, and we also had. his mom, that was definitely that she's like the bookend. Yeah. I love when, when Tim said that, that's so, yeah, we start and end with her.
00:44:59
Speaker
civil. Yeah. And yeah, says so much. I'm, I'm reminded of this Ted Lasso line.
00:45:13
Speaker
Let me just. Yes. Ted says, Boy, I love meeting people's mom. It's like reading an instruction manual as to why they're nuts.
00:45:26
Speaker
Oh.
00:45:28
Speaker
You'd like, you know, we can apply that line what we saw this season with Sean. Oh, totally. I mean, i guess specifically for him, like, there's a lot he just didn't understand about his life that, um...
00:45:45
Speaker
And I feel like that's the way with kids, though, isn't it? Like, who there's so many things that as a kid you just don't get. Yeah. yeah Or you interpret in the wrong way because you don't yeah know life, you know.
00:45:58
Speaker
And then as you get older, you're like, oh, I understand. a my parents were just kids. And B, in most cases, they were just trying their best. Yeah. but i And I do feel like that also says something about like how it's important to communicate with children. Like I feel like a lot, you know, people don't see a lot like about talking to kids like they're just people.
00:46:20
Speaker
Yeah. um And I feel like that's an example, like keeping them, keeping things from them, and like, or not telling them the whole, I mean, and Sean was like 18. So I don't really, yeah you know, it's hard to we've,
00:46:33
Speaker
talked to at length about what we think was going on there but like but ultimately information well and it's it's a combination things because then on henry you know they already had tension and so that probably built and built and and really didn't help maybe Sean, you know, Sean being young, maybe wanted to see it a certain way too.
00:47:00
Speaker
Yeah. Well, I think the thing, think the thing with kids is that ultimately they're really perceptive. Like whether you tell them what's happening or not, they're going to know something's going on.
00:47:12
Speaker
Yeah. um And I think in, you know,
00:47:18
Speaker
In a situation in which you, this is going to sound weird, but in a situation in which you can tell the story, like tell the story. do you know what i mean? Like don't don't let the kids write it up to be something that it's not.
00:47:33
Speaker
Because you don't know what the repercussions of that are going to be. and And does that mean that sometimes you're going to have to have slightly harder conversations? Okay. But could that be preventing harder conversations down the road? Maybe.
00:47:46
Speaker
Yeah, and I feel like we get the sense kind of from Maddie that like she thought right he was fine. like She just didn't... And you know she has that line that's so weird and wonderful where she says, like sometimes I get the worst realizations.
00:48:03
Speaker
like Because i feel like she is so cerebral and stuff and clearly ah bit detached. like She has a very... um a career that keeps her very busy and moving and stuff.
00:48:18
Speaker
And that is clearly a priority for her, if not the priority for her. um And so it's like, she didn't see that. Right. How he was experiencing all of that.
00:48:31
Speaker
um And it seems that she, well, obviously she like regrets that, that she didn't, but like, that yeah that's, you know, that's like, we're all people doing our best as you said. Yeah.
00:48:43
Speaker
Yeah, so he's got that going on. yeah so yeah got you so yeah so maybe maybe the grown-up-ness of Gus has rubbed off a little bit on sean In the sense that he's willing to take a relationship more seriously.
00:49:03
Speaker
We talked about, you know, flirty Sean that we saw in season one. We don't really see Sean date. We just really see him flirt with Jules. And have a reputation.
00:49:14
Speaker
Correct. Of being very flirty. Yes. Well, yeah. Of his own doing. Yeah. um But now, yeah, he's willing to really take the big jump into something that he knows is going to be serious.
00:49:29
Speaker
And as I think we said last episode, that he like kind of closed the book on, but he's willing to reopen because of the possibilities of of what that could bring.
00:49:39
Speaker
Yeah. I love like when they were talking about Abigail on the psychologist podcast, i think Maggie said, like,
00:49:50
Speaker
the idea of going back to complete something that was left unfinished, which I think we kind of talked about. And, and I feel like with Sean, you know, there's, there's so much going on for him having to do with the past in this season. Like, it's interesting, like even like symbolically, like going back to Abigail is sort of like going back to that whole time. And like, yeah and we kind of talked about with Yang too, the idea of going back to Sean in order to move forward out of the situation that she's in.
00:50:22
Speaker
And Sean is kind of, you know, maybe that's him doing the same thing where he's like going back to move on yeah um and to move forward, which I think he has totally like grown up quote unquote a lot in the last few seasons, even just the fact that he has a steady,
00:50:47
Speaker
Yeah, it's true. And it's like, he's been doing for years. Yeah, that's huge for him. and he's, and hes He's very good at it. i feel like we see that come like that come out in the Yang episode too where he's just yeah so confident and also like dealing with um Henry sort of telling him not to do it even though it's like he has built this for himself, this this job basically and it's like him seeing it through yeah is like huge. He could totally just like but he won't.
00:51:26
Speaker
Right. Yeah. and And history, you know, before these last three years, we'd probably argue that he would flake because things are getting serious. But yeah, this means so much to him. Yeah.
00:51:39
Speaker
Yeah, you're right. Like, that would be the point. I feel like we have a line like that somewhere that I don't know where it is. But the idea that he would... I feel like it's a Henry line. Yeah, right? yeah As soon as it gets serious that he would just cut and run.
00:51:53
Speaker
Yes. But... This is as serious as it gets. Yeah. And he's like, no, I can win. i kid yeah I can do my job incredibly well. And I will. can get you. Oh, man.
00:52:05
Speaker
So good. Baby boy, Sean. I know.
00:52:12
Speaker
Okay. so So what are we hoping – not that Not as if we haven't seen the seasons because we've seen all the seasons. But I guess when we talk about like arcs, because I feel like that's maybe less of what we've paid attention to in the past.
Future Speculations on Psych's Character Arcs
00:52:27
Speaker
What are we hoping to see the characters like gain from the next season or what storylines are we hoping to see from the characters in the upcoming season?
00:52:40
Speaker
I know. is it I want to pull up the episodes and like see where we're headed, but should I not? Should I just think purely from this moment? Yeah, let's yeah that's just philosophical experiment.
00:52:54
Speaker
It is hard because I have to turn off the part of my brain that sort of knows what's going to I know, i know. um
00:53:07
Speaker
I guess I want to see what Sean looks like in a relationship. h with someone he cares about um i want to see
00:53:21
Speaker
him and henry be closer maybe have a little more mutual respect we've learned a lot about each other in this last season yeah very true
00:53:36
Speaker
um see I'm just thinking now about that about the Yang episode and like him coming into it so cocky and it becoming very real and him I don't know if he ever gets close to failing really um but it may just maybe with the stakes so high it may feel like he is I i feel like we've talked about like Sean and failure at some point that's tickling some pieces of my brain in the very, very back. Let me search my notes.
00:54:15
Speaker
I feel like that would be and interesting kind of storyline for Sean. Like what does, what does failure look like for him and how does he deal with that in the realm? I do think we, don't we get an episode like that where Sean just like keeps getting it wrong or something?
00:54:36
Speaker
Anywho, I think that'd be kind of interesting, a for like the the whole psychic-ness thing, but then also for the confidence of Sean, because he is, yeah, like you said, he's very cocky.
00:54:49
Speaker
He's good at his job, so he's like kind of earned it. But how will that almost like put him in check, I think would be interesting. Yeah. i also Yeah, sorry. Well, i I guess on that idea, like I think – i I am wondering if he's coming out of this with any like sort of reservations or like if he'll maybe overthink a bit more because of yeah the consequences that were so nearly wrought after one.
00:55:25
Speaker
And then going to Despro, like I think Despro is... We start with Despro! Yeah. And that is a character who does make Sean question his... Yeah. his wits more than maybe even, you know, more than Yang, you know, like really challenges how, and, and that actually is an episode where Sean looks stupid a bunch of times. Yes, you're right. You're right.
00:55:51
Speaker
Yeah. I feel like the, the cool thing with Despero is he really comes across as like an equal with Sean like he's just as clever he's just as far ahead if not farther ahead he's just as good of a liar like so you never really know where you are with him and I feel like every iteration of us seeing him you don't know anymore I still don't no yeah we're still not sure which is like also kind of it's also kind of fun I'm also I'm interested to see um and I hope to see
00:56:27
Speaker
lassie continuing to work on himself i think we saw in this last episode lassie working on himself for the hopes of no getting together or the benefit of being with somebody else but i hope we see lassie continue to work on himself for the sake of himself because he you know he wants to be ah better person and i think jules will continue to bring that out of him because that's yeah just kind of how jules is
00:56:55
Speaker
And I think it'll be interesting to see the, we kind of talked about this, but the Jules and Sean dynamic now that Jules has confessed her feelings. know. I know. lord
00:57:08
Speaker
Well, and it's interesting because like Jules has confessed her feelings. Sean's reaction to that was your timing sucks. Right. So they sort of both have. Yeah. So it's like, it's weird to be two people who spend a lot of time together and sort of know that both of you are having like both of you have feelings for each other and you're just not going to do anything about it and one of you's in a serious relationship now like yeah that's a lot that's gonna be super awkward yeah and i could see why like jules would want some to put some distance there
00:57:50
Speaker
ah Yeah, emotionally, that's really taxing. Like keep it more professional, which we've kind of seen her do when she was, you know, just not going to go there at all. But now it's like they've gone there and right they can't, you know, see it through. So I could see her yeah wanting to take that step back again.
00:58:14
Speaker
Yeah. Is this the season where Maddie and Henry get back together? Yeah, well, yeah, we left them on a kiss. I know. So we'll see that.
00:58:28
Speaker
That for them. Again, a going backwards maybe to go forward, if you will. um And Chief Karen Vick.
00:58:38
Speaker
What we want for Chief Karen Charles Vick?
00:58:44
Speaker
I feel like she, well, we met her sister. Mm-hmm. um I guess maybe more confidence for her too. Because like in the finale of the last season, she became chief. but Right. she wasn't the first choice.
00:59:02
Speaker
Right. um Oh, yes, Sean. Right. I'm remembering everything. Yeah, Sean... in one of his sweetest little secret subplots ever. Yeah.
00:59:14
Speaker
Um, outed the, the picked chief for well having an affair, I guess. Yeah. Well, and now they've, they've caught and one of Santa Barbara's most notorious criminals. Yeah. And she was like straight up yeah scared in this season. She was like, and i feel like, I mean,
00:59:40
Speaker
when we talked about that in the episode too, and in reference to Zodiac also, but just like the impact of this sort of game on the people playing it.
00:59:52
Speaker
Right. um Especially on like the law enforcement side, like feel like Karen was bracing herself for a civilian dying on her watch.
01:00:03
Speaker
Right, right. at the hands of someone who that has been operating in this city for almost 15 years. um So yeah.
01:00:17
Speaker
Whereas like maybe Sean is coming out of that maybe a little more humbled. I wonder if Karen would be coming out of it like
01:00:29
Speaker
more confident yeah like yeah because yeah that is huge and like as far as what we saw her throughout the season like in with her sister you know the sibling rivalry like her sister is more impressive a more impressive version of her you know having that interim label even though it's freshly removed like I could see all that kind of being
01:00:58
Speaker
like weighing on her a little bit. And so, yeah, maybe this will give her a renewed or just a new sense of like ownership over this role. Yeah. I hope so. Cause you know, she's wrangling a lot of geese, if you will.
01:01:14
Speaker
I don't think that's a saying from anywhere, but she is herding cats. That's it. Wrangling geese. I like it. You know, that sounds like a harder job. I but guess they both can be little,
01:01:26
Speaker
a little
01:01:29
Speaker
um they can do some damage, both geese and geese. Yeah. They've got sharp teeth, dude. I mean, so do cats. but I feel like geese are kind of famously mean. Yes, they are. they Yeah, they definitely are.
01:01:42
Speaker
they've got the long necks. Like, they can really reach you yeah if they if they try. um But she yeah, she's got, like, a lot going on. Not to mention a freaking rogue psychic and his best friend that, like, kind of do whatever they want, essentially.
01:01:55
Speaker
um But she does do a very good job of managing everybody and kind of keeping everybody on task to the best of her ability. So, and when she feels like she can't, she's even able to to admit that and eventually bring in Henry to kind of work as a it Go between, you know. Yeah, I was thinking of that too. Like that move in itself is, you know, her taking ownership of that department in a way.
01:02:21
Speaker
Like, I mean, she brought in Sean. I feel like she is a very creative leader of this department. Like applying what we were talking about in the context of TV writing to Vic.
01:02:32
Speaker
Like she she knows how it works and because of that is able to kind of push the boundaries. And like how she works with Sean great. ah great example of that like how she sort of blesses their like yeah their nonsense but like looks the other way in a way but like not explicitly she doesn't know the extent of nonsense i think that's where we landed yes yeah i don't think she can Like legally speaking. Yeah. the extent of the nonsense.
01:03:06
Speaker
But allows them to be present. um And yeah, so this next move of like offering Henry a job. Yeah, she's just kind of continuing to make it her own.
01:03:18
Speaker
Make it function in the way that she sees.
01:03:23
Speaker
Would be effective. So yeah, like we'll just see her come into her own even more. Yeah.
01:03:31
Speaker
And then seeing your Guster.
01:03:35
Speaker
I want to see, you know, want to see how Gus now handles Sean having a girlfriend. Mm. Yeah. Because they're like, I mean, even the last scene of the last episode, they're two freaking peas in a pod.
01:03:49
Speaker
So how is that going to and we already know that like when there's even a whiff of Sean having another partner, is, you know, yeah jealous and butthurt. So how, yeah, how is he going to respond to this? And then also, are we going to see like a, not an overcorrection, but are we going to see him be like, well, now I need a girlfriend. So like we can do stuff together. Like, are we going to see Gus play in the field at all? Like,
01:04:13
Speaker
Or so some more about work. I feel like we really haven't gotten the the Gus work dynamic in a while. We get like little tiny bits of it here and there. But I would love to see yeah some more of him actually balancing these two very important pieces of his life.
01:04:26
Speaker
Yeah. Well, I do feel like kind of starting the season on ghosts was an effective way to be like, this is dealt with for now. For now. Yes. So like, we kind of didn't need to see much because it's like, they have, well, Sean has dirt on everybody. And so nobody can say a word to guys.
01:04:48
Speaker
um But, but yeah, yeah. I'm trying I mean then the other like main work episode I like remember is the one where that guy dies oh yeah and got mess with the crimes I feel like that's later isn't it yeah I think it's later um maybe like season 7 that one's great I love that episode that episode's his um um
01:05:21
Speaker
I just think about like all the crying Gus does. Oh my God. it gives Like, it's just like.
01:05:29
Speaker
So funny. Oh, so good. Right. Even just, even if it's not like Gus at work, I would just love to see like more of him actively trying to balance it. You know what I mean?
01:05:40
Speaker
Cause even if, you know, they're not allowed to say anything, he still has to go to work. Like he still has to actually do the work. So yeah. What does that, what does that look like for Gus?
01:05:51
Speaker
Yeah. When do we get the COG episode? That's not for a while, right? Oh, yeah. I think that is in while. Oh, we get another. I'm looking at the episodes. Okay.
01:06:02
Speaker
We get another Black Pella group or episode. Oh, I love that episode. That episode is so good. That theme song that used to be the ringtone on my phone because I loved the acapella version of the theme song. It so good.
01:06:17
Speaker
I've said another, but is this the first one? That's the first one, yeah. Okay, okay. So we get the black Phillips. Yeah, quarter black, as Sean says they should be. um
01:06:31
Speaker
That's a fun one because we get to see Gus, kind of like what we were talking about, sort of wanting, like... Who is Gus without Sean? Right, right. and And we get to see Sean be a little jealous and like, how do I fit in here?
01:06:47
Speaker
i do have to say, i love that. like I love, because if, yeah, it feels very much like Sean is the the linchpin, if you will.
01:06:59
Speaker
And Gus is always coming back to Sean. who But yeah, Sean needs Gus just as much as Gus needs Sean. Yeah. well yeah we definitely saw that in his it just really makes me laugh how he's like it's blue the car is blue gus it's it's blue like you're all standing right next to each other but but tell us oh we see sean takes a shot in the dark oh that's a great one too yeah
01:07:34
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That's a great Sean Henry episode. like Yes, it is. Just didn't the teaching and the... Yes. We get to meet Jules' brother. Oh my gosh.
01:07:46
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That's fun. That's a big one for Jules. I was going to say... we meet So we meet Ewan first, and then we also meet Dad this season, or no? Is he not until next season? No, not Because it's not until Sean and Jewel are together, I believe. Because he brings... Sean, like, gets him...
01:08:11
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doesn't he bring him in some way even though Jules said don't or something like that think you're right yeah yeah um okay yeah that's a really fun one getting to see Jules with with Ewan yeah and it It's another test of her, you know, her values.
01:08:31
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Yes. There's that one with the what river rafting. Gus does have a girlfriend. Yeah. Very short-lived. Very short-lived. You test half one.
01:08:43
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Yes. The jewels...
01:08:48
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ex-witness protection episode, Fairy Juliet episode. he She's looking for someone. Oh, yes, at the train station. Yeah. Yes, okay, yes, yes, yes. Oh, intrigue. Okay, yes.
01:09:03
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So, Jules romantic without Sean. Like, what does that look like? What does a romantic Juliet look like? That's interesting. Yeah. And then right after that is the outbreak episode where Oh, Judd Nelson.
01:09:21
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Yes, Judd Nelson. And
01:09:26
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that's a big one for Jules and Sean. Oh my, you know what?
01:09:33
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I didn't realize that that episode happens and Sean and Abigail are still dating. Yeah. Oh shit. Well, we really, feel like we don't see a whole lot of Abigail because she, when does she go
01:09:50
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Abroad. That's a good question. I feel like it's kind early. Did Yin get her? It's when she's coming As she comes back. Yeah, yeah. so but do they do they break up?
01:10:03
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Is that the thing? No, I think... Wait, when? Before she goes. they I don't think they break up before she goes. um But it's like... okay there Yeah, their kind of long distance...
01:10:21
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Okay. So a big test of their relationship. And then... because it And they do... It is a little... fighty think tank after outbreak that's a great one of Sean looking foolish yes um hard to watch I never really like watching Sean look foolish I need him to i need him to win in the end he does though he does win in the end but it can be hard to watch but the themes we were just talking about that plays right in there
01:10:56
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um then and believe the Jaws episode Oh, that's fun. So we'll have that to look forward to, everybody. oh gosh. It's too bad it didn't come a little earlier because we could have gone and seen it in theaters. They just had it in theaters for its 50th anniversary.
01:11:11
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Oh, wow. Have you seen Jaws? No. i'm like I believe I have actually seen Jaws, but know. Well, you watch like Shark Week and stuff, right? uh i used to wear when i was younger but i i do you know love sharks i don't like the um jaws caused a lot of shark hatred and shark shark hysteria murder so don't like that um i'm not a big fan of um the open ocean don't know if you know this about me i'm terrified of boats i do not like boats at all
01:11:50
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i So the idea, and not of it just being a shark, but the idea of like anything underneath me in the abyss of the ocean is like totally terrifying. How do you feel about like lakes?
01:12:02
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I don't like lakes either. I don't like anything. Anything where I don't know what's beneath me. Like when I was a camp counselor. Pools only. And even pools freak me out. So you just don't like water.
01:12:14
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I don't really. And I love swimming. So I like don't really understand why. I mean, I do. that's so sad. Yeah. love swimming and have nowhere to go. i know Just, yeah, just clear pools is really all I can do.
01:12:26
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But when I was a camp counselor, we had a lake and we would do like boating was like one of the activities. And I had to mentally be like, okay, can't freak out because the children will freak out. So like just deep breaths as I boat these children into the middle of a lake and hope we don't fall out of this canoe. Like it was. Yeah. No, it is very freaky. I mean, I think that's a totally rational fear.
01:12:48
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So the idea of like ah shark or anything like popping out of the water, like touching my legs, I'm like, like, don't. the Yeah. I mean, just people it's very scary yet to just think of being on top of something and just like a whole world is beneath you and like anything.
01:13:05
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yeah You just don't know what's coming. Like I could never do space. Like space, that seems so. That's even. Yeah. even bigger yeah like good for those people who are like i know i i really don't have a desire to go to space either no desire no desire to go to space no desire to go on a cruise i've noticed
01:13:25
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ah yeah thank god my family is not like they've never been like let's go on a like let's go a disney cruise or like a cruise to a place because i would totally be out i could never do never, never do it. like And just the idea of being in like the middle of the ocean with nothing else around, that sounds terrifying.
01:13:44
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Like submarines, that's terrifying too. Who wants to do my gosh, submarines I cannot imagine. Like not only are you in the middle of the ocean, gary but there' it's like you're in space. There's like nothing anywhere. And if anything goes wrong, you're dead.
01:13:57
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like Yeah, it just seems like way too much to go wrong. Too much, right? Too much. So Jaws, I don't think necessarily freaks me out because that's where we started.
01:14:08
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I don't think Jaws necessarily freaks me out because of the shark part. I think it freaks me out because of the, yeah, the like something in the ocean yeah coming to get me. Like that's just creepy. Like there's a, I saw a and ah photo of people like watching Jaws sitting in inner tubes on a lake.
01:14:26
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Worst nightmare. My absolute worst nightmare. That sounds horrible. Never, never. I'm going to have to be like sitting on the floor, my entire body pressed on something as I watch this movie.
01:14:40
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Modern nowhere in sight. Yes. Nothing. Can't even be drinking it. Yeah, no. All full contact with objects. No liquids. I mean, luckily it is old.
01:14:54
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Okay, so are the effects kind old too? feel it look that scary. Okay. Then maybe I'll be okay. And what i think i'm also i think what I'm also gaining from this you know foray into thriller and and horror movies is that I don't know where I got the assumption that they were like the entire thing was scary, but that is kind of the assumption that my brain has that like every minute just terrifying.
01:15:27
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um And i my brain is slowly coming around to the fact that like not every minute is scary. There's like a story behind all of it too. And um the scary parts, you know, come up every once in a while. But so I think it'll be interesting kind of like with Friday the 13th to watch Jaws and see like How does my preconceived notion of it actually fit with the movie itself?
01:15:51
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Because we watched we've watched some like classic movies. yeah horror movies and stuff but they're it's still niche but I feel like Jaws is like it's popular culture like yes even if you don't watch horror movies you may have seen Jaws like or you probably have especially if you're of a certain age yeah a little older than us but um I I feel I think I have seen Jaws so like I feel like that even says a lot because I'm it's not really my kind of movie yeah um
01:16:23
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but yeah that'll be fun we have a lot we'll have a long lot to watch this season right after that as Mysterion Presents which oh my gosh jam packed a whole festival of films we're really getting to the point where it's just episode after episode there's some that I'm very excited like Let's Get Hairy we're gonna have to watch that episode um I think we'll have to watch an American Werewolf in London, Paris, there's a couple.
01:16:56
Speaker
Yeah, ah Paris might be the bad sequel. um Or is it Teen Wolf? We have to watch something for that. Teen Wolf. That will be a fun one. can watch that too.
01:17:07
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Bollywood Homicide. o Yeah, lots to look forward to.
01:17:14
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probably come back in December. Yes, with some foundational work. Yes. Some important, yes, foundational understandings. Yes. And if you haven't been with us before to know what the foundational, the Cy6 foundations is, we essentially watch things that are a little bit more tangential to psych, but referenced in psych that will help our understanding and our viewing of the the references and and kind of the world in which they live. So last time around, we did a bunch of like eighty s movies and some creature features yeah if you haven't if you haven't listened to those go back because yeah like those are fun they are really fun well because again we say this all the time have very very few rules very few rules here um but when we watch like a one-off movie it's we kind of just talk about it it's uh yeah really very little structure so sometimes we end up falling down very interesting rabbit holes for a period of time
01:18:13
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01:18:30
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01:18:46
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01:18:54
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