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S3E6: A Western On The High Seas
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Series spoilers abound! We’re watching Season 3, Episode 6 “There Might Be Blood”. The boys are stuck in a surf and turf battle between Chief Vick and her sister, Coast Guard Commander Barbara Dunlap, as they try to solve the possible murder of a Safety Inspector on an oil rig. We’re talking regression, childhood, oil, silliness, and more. So grab your minimalist life vest and join Kylie and Skyler on this new episode of Phsysics 101!
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Introduction to Versailles 6101 Podcast
00:00:21
Speaker
All right. everyone, and welcome to Versailles 6101, where we discuss everything about the world of Psyche and the antics of Sean and Gus in sunny Santa Barbara. I'm Skylar, and this is my partner, Captain
Analyzing 'There Might Be Blood' Episode
00:00:32
Speaker
Dale.
00:00:32
Speaker
And today we'll be talking about season three, episode six of the famed TV show Psyche. There might be blood. There might be blood, which is a reference, right, to there will be blood. There will be blood.
00:00:49
Speaker
Which we pondered watching, but we didn't. have We did. Her own sanity. Yeah, I mean, it's just, well, I guess it's about the oil boom in Southern California. So sort of relevant to like maybe the backdrop of the episode, but I don't think this is like a proper, like a true homage to it.
00:01:08
Speaker
But I don't really Yes. Maybe one day we can watch it. Maybe one. Yeah, maybe. When we have some extra time in our hands with each other. But and we'll throw it in there at some point.
00:01:20
Speaker
yeah Because it always, there might be blood always confused me when just hearing the title. Because in my mind, since I haven't seen there will be blood, that's not the reference. I hear blood and I think like vampire or murder. You know what mean?
00:01:33
Speaker
So hearing that. There Will Be Blood is about oil, that makes way more sense as to why. Yeah, I never would have thought that movie was about oil. Like, I feel like that is the name of a Like it's a title that is sort of in the ether. Like I think I was aware of it, but I would not have thought that that's what it's about.
00:01:51
Speaker
Yeah, right. And I don't even know like, I don't know what that means. yeah Yeah, I mean, I guess, I don't know. Maybe we should have watched it. Maybe. Maybe it's just that there like would fighting. Like, I don't know if it's a murder mystery or if it's like, because I could see it meaning like, like there will be like tension, you know?
00:02:13
Speaker
um because it's like yeah competitive industry sort of situation but don't know right and then in the context of the psych episode like there might be blood don't know if it's a play on whether they whether it's an accident or murder yes i think so i think that would make sense because that is kind of like the crux of the first two-thirds of the episode yeah did he actually get murdered or was this just an accident And that's also part of, like, the jurisdictional thing, too. Yeah.
00:02:43
Speaker
And it's interesting that... The two them.
Character Interactions and Investigation Themes
00:02:46
Speaker
Like, the Coast Guard representative that we have here, Commander Dunlap, is so adamant.
00:02:55
Speaker
Like, doesn't even want to look. And is it just because of the rivalry, think? like Like, that has... um I could see that. Sort of clouded her vision.
00:03:07
Speaker
I could definitely see that. Because if it's murder, then she does kind of have to give some onus to what Vic is saying. And it would make sense to be like, hey, Vic, come and help me. That's true. Yeah. It's like she has to let her in if it is murder. So she's like, obviously obviously it's not.
00:03:26
Speaker
Yeah. Duh. Hello. it's an accident. Calm down.
00:03:30
Speaker
Yeah. So that, I mean, that would be like my, my guess. Yeah. But I don't know. I mean, it does kind of seem like when you look at the, like the quote unquote facts of the case, or at least what we saw in the beginning, like it does kind of just seem like an accident. Like they were on the oil rig. It was a stormy night.
00:03:49
Speaker
Someone went to an area they weren't supposed to go. The safety guy was like, what are you doing? Be careful. Like, Don't go into the dangerous area. Yeah, and then I think it's interesting that later, because it's, the whole setup of the episode is interesting. Like, the vibe of that opening scene after yeah flashback is, like, very intense.
00:04:08
Speaker
Like, it could be on a different show almost, you know? Like, it's yeah dark and stormy and there's a, like, you see the murder, which is not something we always get to see. Yeah. and And it's interesting, like, later when they're talking to the people on the rig,
00:04:24
Speaker
ah They don't seem to know why he was out there, even though we saw it. Oh, yeah. Like, we know why he was out there. He was just telling somebody else not to be there. But, like, you know, they're like, I don't even know what he was doing in no man's land.
00:04:38
Speaker
Right, right. kind of an interesting. Well, I guess that that begs the question then. And this is jumping all the the end. I know. i have I feel like every single time we talk, I say, and jumping way ahead.
00:04:52
Speaker
And I'm like, I'm tired of myself saying it. So that's why I did it. I said it. I got it. I got it for you. But that's, yeah, we're jumping way ahead. This makes me wonder, the person who did it, were they the person in No Man's Land or were they the person that moved the crane?
00:05:12
Speaker
Because I always kind of assumed it was the person in no man's land. interesting. And they like in you know, ah enticed him over there by stepping into there. Yeah, how would they have gotten him out there?
00:05:24
Speaker
That is a good question. I wonder if we watched if it would like it because I didn't I never think about it when I'm watching that scene. Yeah. yeah But
Character Motivations and Connections
00:05:32
Speaker
I wonder if we did. I'm like really focused on that person if we'd be able to tell it all.
00:05:35
Speaker
We could figure it out. Yeah. Because yeah. And then knowing that the crane was tampered with which we find out way later. Yeah. But like yeah it does seem like how would they
00:05:50
Speaker
orchestrate that. It almost seems like you need to two people. Right. Unless it just happened, you just happened to get them out there and then it was like an opportunity. Oh, that that could be too.
00:06:04
Speaker
Yeah, that could, that maybe the crane was going to hit them no matter what and they just happened to be in like the perfect spot for it. So they were just like, let's do it now. Yeah, it is kind of weird. But i I do think Like seeing all of that, it does kind of make sense then as to why people would be like, it was probably just an accident. Like so many things have to be. Yeah, that does make sense.
00:06:26
Speaker
You know, in line, which kudos to Sean. He's always kind of the one who feels the one thing out of whack. Yeah. And I do feel.
00:06:37
Speaker
um mean Something I felt about our killer was that the person uses how underestimated they are like to their advantage. And so I could see that playing into it too, that like you wouldn't expect this person to orchestrate all of those pieces.
00:06:56
Speaker
But really, they're quite mischievous in many ways. Indeed. Indeed. Yeah, and it does all kind of compile at the end there. We start to see this person has done multiple things that really aren't super kosher.
00:07:10
Speaker
Yeah. And then in the end. Yeah. and you i yeah And in terms of like the performance and sort of the way that last few minutes plays out.
00:07:21
Speaker
i love that we're talking around it, but also talking about the other. But I feel like you really see that person like kind of lose it. Like, yeah you know, they're in way over their heads, basically.
00:07:34
Speaker
Totally. Yeah. I did make a note of a couple. Well, I guess ah couple of psych-wicky things because. Yeah. Specifically, I wanted to. see what all the references young sean makes when he's digging for oil um so we can mention that but another one i saw that i thought was kind of fun is that jay lynch who was our guest star for the episode commander dunlap appeared in the 1993 action film the fugitive with kirsten nilson oh my gosh and in 2016 was in so like much later which i think i remember actually was in
00:08:10
Speaker
the short-lived comedy series Angel from Hell together with Maggie Lawson. So that's fun. Some psych connection. Kristen Nilsen was in the... Apparently she must have been fugene pretty have to look this up. news I feel like that would also be a fun one for us to watch. I don't know if there's like a true... Oh my God, she's so little.
00:08:31
Speaker
Wait, did you find it? Wait. I'm looking. I'm trying. the fugitive oh my gosh she is so little oh she's so cute yeah i don't know if there's any like direct references or homages jane lynch is also quite little yeah gosh uh but to that movie but i do feel like it's such a classic we'll have to watch it it is it's a great one A very fun, you like, detective-y, whodunit, murder-y kind of a movie. But in a slightly different spin. and
00:09:09
Speaker
Yeah. And it'll be interesting because I'm trying to think of fugitive episodes that we have. We've done one with Tancana.
00:09:20
Speaker
Oh, yeah. um know maybe one with we'll have to be on the lookout because I feel like that kind of the reference of like every outhouse penhouse whatever like i all the places they're going to search is such a gimme and gets referenced all the time like yeah that's ining in shows like this like I wonder if there is anything but anyway maybe we could just watch it just because Kristen has in it with Jane yeah
00:09:51
Speaker
um say we do it so someday maybe the next foundations yes um so yeah i just wanted to mention that but anyway let's get into the flashback yeah so this flashback takes place in harry harry ah harry Nope.
00:10:11
Speaker
Henry. i was thinking Harrison Ford because we were just talking about the fugitive. And so this flashback takes place in Henry's yard. And Sean and Gus are in the back slash the front digging in the dirt.
00:10:27
Speaker
And i first of all, I just love the fact that the two of them are just digging because I feel like as a child, maybe before like the age of the internet,
00:10:39
Speaker
I feel like every kid dug in the ground at some point to do something. Find buried treasure, build yourself a pool, find some water, like whatever it was. Digging, I feel like it's a very childhood-esque thing. Totally.
00:10:52
Speaker
And I love these are how far along they are. gosh. They're deep in the ground. They're deep in the ground. yeah oh yeah They are really deep in the ground for Gus to be like, and why are we doing this again? I just love that Gus goes along with every... He's just like, all right, sounds like fun.
00:11:14
Speaker
But they're digging because Sean is looking for oil Which there is also something very like sweet and childlike about him going, there must be oil in my backyard. Totally.
00:11:26
Speaker
i mean i mean, just like you're saying, like that like looking for treasure or whatever, like it's all very similar. And you probably watched... you know, one thing, which I'm guessing is, okay, I'll read this. So Sean has this line where all the great oil, all the great wildcatters, which must be oil people.
00:11:48
Speaker
I guess. Oil barons. People who drive wildcats. Just
Reflecting on Flashbacks and Humorous Elements
00:11:51
Speaker
know where to. Yeah. Oh, is that what it is? That makes sense. Because that's, is that, you call that a wildcat? Is that a thing? Isn't that a machine?
00:11:59
Speaker
Wildcat machinery. that makes sense. machine gosh we really should have watched there will be blood we would have known all this um yeah it looks like a plow and know okay okay that makes sense because I thought that was funny Like all of them know where to dig basically. And he senses it or something like he, he is sure that there's oil here because he's one of the great or whatever.
00:12:23
Speaker
yeah But he references, he lists them and he says, Getty, Clampett, Crisco and Wesson. And Getty is an actual oil company.
00:12:34
Speaker
Clampett is in reference to the family oil company in the Beverly Hillbillies, which I'm guessing is where he got this idea that make sense and crisco and wesson are both food oil brands which in the context of the moment i you know that did not hit me but that's like oh hilarious that list is so funny and so i feel like this is one of the most like ah grown-up sean shenanigans we've seen young sean do yes and like and the way he talks about it and stuff it feels like sean
00:13:08
Speaker
Yeah. Well, and so it's so silly to like, it makes so much sense, even though it makes no sense. Because as a small child, how much do you really understand about oil? Like, you don't know that it's like, thick, like tar or stuff in the ground made for like, you don't understand that. So for him to throw in like food oils.
00:13:25
Speaker
It's like, yeah, that makes sense. It's all oil. yeah It's all oil. It's so funny. It's funny because I feel like they're four there are four different reasons. Like, young Sean now is doing it maybe because he doesn't understand.
00:13:39
Speaker
like the differences but then adult sean will do it because do the exact say the exact same joke but for the opposite reason yeah that is true hard to say but yeah just yeah that was so funny but yeah he's just like so excited and so sure yeah and so sure that he convinces gus
00:14:01
Speaker
Oh, yeah. i think And Gus is like, me but your dad said not to dig in the yard, which is funny, too, because so they've done this before. oh of course, I'm sure. And Sean's like, he doesn't understand how rich we're going to be. yeah
00:14:19
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah, he'll be okay with it once we're rich. Like, that's really what matters here, Gus. Come on.
00:14:25
Speaker
And they do strike something. It seems like a water pipe. Like water main or something. Yeah. It was spewing up, which does feel like a moment from the movies.
00:14:36
Speaker
Yes, totally. When they strike oil. Yeah. but and then And then Henry, of course, arrives and is like, I want this fixed. Which I'm like, how are you expecting these two children to fix this water pipe? I know.
00:14:51
Speaker
He literally was like, we'll get the duct tape. I was like, what? ah How is duct tape going to fix this, Henry? Oh, gosh. I don't think will. Yeah. But maybe just for the moment, I don't know, because he also was like, I want this to look exactly like it was before all this happened.
00:15:05
Speaker
Which maybe it's just like his gut reaction and then he goes inside is like, God, I'm going to have to call someone. Do you call a plumber? Who you even call for that? Like City Works?
00:15:18
Speaker
Would a plumber just be able to fix it? Yeah, I guess it would be a plumber. Or like maybe would be like irrigation, like a landscape. type person? I don't know. Could be. I guess it depends. Maybe you start with the city and be like, what do I do?
00:15:32
Speaker
Yeah. Please help me. My child attacked a water main. Can you imagine trying to explain that to like a normal person? Sorry, my kid was digging in the backyard and they thought they struck oil, but in actuality, they just hit the water main.
00:15:45
Speaker
I mean, it may happen more often than we think. That's true. Although you had to dig pretty far, which I feel like that is that was hole. big hole It was.
00:15:56
Speaker
I mean, they were like girls standing in it. And I feel like they were kind of up to their shoulders. like It was was a pretty legit yeah job. Another thing that was funny was I had closed captions on.
00:16:08
Speaker
And as the scene was like ending and the water is getting muddy and falling on them, which what a thing to shoot that would have been for these children. But it says the caption was Gus and Sean crying, which I have never thought of that thought of it as them crying, but I was like, wow, are they okay?
00:16:33
Speaker
I can't imagine the two of them crying at that either. That seems like something... I don't know. They seem so...
00:16:43
Speaker
just like serendipitous that I feel like even if it was water, they would have water and dirt! It's mud! The mud! The mud is now oil. I could maybe see Gus crying. In his boy suit, almost.
00:16:59
Speaker
His dress shirt getting all dirty. Yeah, that's true. He's not super into grime. So that's kind of the setup. The setup for the episode is oil rigging and...
00:17:14
Speaker
I guess kind of chaos. And we get to see, as Kylie said before, the actual murder take place, which is very rare for us to see on this show. Let's just have a thought about the flashback.
Complex Investigations and Relationships
00:17:28
Speaker
We totally move on. Like if it has any bearing other than like just being about them digging for oil, but I guess it's sort of like digging for oil in the wrong spot.
00:17:39
Speaker
Ooh. Oh. I like that. I think that makes a lot of sense. It's very much so in the wrong yeah dangerous spot. Yes. yeah Yeah. I mean, imagine if they moved like two feet to the left, would they have just dug on forever?
00:17:59
Speaker
Who knows?
00:18:02
Speaker
Who knows? So we go to the oil rig present day. And it's the middle of the night and it's raining, which this scene always makes me think that they're on like a ship on the high seas just because it's like there's so much wind and the rain is like whipping around. And I feel like you get that on those like dangerous boat shows, if you know what I'm talking about, like those crabbing shows and things like that.
00:18:26
Speaker
So i in my mind, i am'm always like, oh, the... the rig is moving but i understand now that it's a solitary like so solitary is not the right thing it is a stationary thing anyway yeah middle of the night dangerous rainy and they are still it's a 24-hour operation they are still mining for their oil or digging for their oil so The job is happening and they have a safety inspector who kind of watches what happens and make sure that everyone is following all the rules that everyone stays safe. While someone drifts off into no man's land, which is like the area right by the edge of the platform.
00:19:08
Speaker
And the safety inspector goes and grabs this person and starts shouting at them, telling them that they know they're not supposed to be in no man's land. Yeah, because first he's like up on his whatever, don't know. It's like he's up on a platform.
00:19:20
Speaker
Yeah. And he's just like calling out. He's like barking out orders at everybody, like yelling at everybody. Right. And then and he yells at this person and that person doesn't. listen Which I guess maybe also speaks to the fact that maybe they are involved in what's about to happen to him. I don't know. But it's also like tyson extremely loud out there. so Yeah, very very loud. There's a lot of people. Again, it's like the wind is whipping. raining. does feel like crisis. Even though as you were saying that, it's like they're just doing their – continuing their operations. But it does feel like something like an emergency is happening because it's just like such extreme conditions, I guess.
00:19:57
Speaker
Yeah, it's very intense. Yeah. Yes, it does. It certainly feels very intense. And we actually get to see, like, the moment almost of impact, which I was like, oh, my God.
00:20:09
Speaker
We see a crane, like, swooping in going towards our guy, and then he gets hit and pushed overboard and overboard, over rail, over the side, and falls to his death.
00:20:22
Speaker
Which... Again, pretty intense considering what we're used to seeing on the show, which usually isn't isn't that. But again, maybe part of that is because they're framing it as possibly an accident.
00:20:36
Speaker
So, you know, we can watch it because it might not have actually. interesting point. Yeah. Right?
00:20:44
Speaker
So that's our conundrum for the day. And we have to try and figure out what's going on Whose jurisdiction it is because it's on the high seas.
00:20:59
Speaker
And the body washes up on shore, which i don't know if that plays into the jurisdiction discussion. Oh, that's a good question. bet it must, right? Yeah. And maybe that's why – because then we basically go to Vic – well, we don't really know who's on the boat. Just Sean and Gus on a boat.
00:21:16
Speaker
And they don't really know what they're involved in or why they're going out there, but they're all wearing like the SVPD, like seemingly life jackets, all the extremely minimalist life jackets. It's like just vests.
00:21:28
Speaker
Yeah. so yes And, and then Vic is, we realized Vic is piloting the boat and she sort of brings them up to speed that the safety inspector,
00:21:42
Speaker
fell to his death whatever and then the body washed up on shore and so maybe that's what how she knows to even go out there right o that would make sense well it sounds like too that they that vic at this point already had a conversation with the coast guard ah about this person because i'm sure when they found out that this person works on an oil rig you probably have to inform the coast guard because it's in yeah i wonder if any like body washing up on shore like involves some sort of like notification to the coast because maybe there'd be like there could be overlap like no matter what happened I guess right with what with anything they might be investigating maybe
00:22:28
Speaker
Yeah, I feel like it might must with something happening like on the water just in case. Is it like an animal attack? Was there a ocean liner that something happened to? Like, I feel like they'd have to be aware. ah Yeah.
00:22:45
Speaker
Even just for like preventative or safety purposes, not even for investigative for purposes. So, it yeah, it sounds like Vic the Coast Guard have spoken to each other about this, but Vic is seeming a little mysterious.
00:23:02
Speaker
Like, she's not kind of giving away of that. It is very... he was like, Gus... I just pulled up the transcript because I was like, what all was said?
00:23:13
Speaker
so guys a lot she Yeah, it's like a lot of like, because it's a debrief, basically. So it's just like a lot of information. Yeah. um But yeah, Vic explains the situation.
00:23:25
Speaker
And then Gus says, excuse me, chief, but how is this a police matter from what you've said? It's an accident. and mick says yeah that's what the coast guard thinks because and then she mentions that they got an anonymous tip about a week oh right right um traced to a pay phone outside the dive shop on the pier and the caller said something highly unsafe was going on out on that rig and that he was risking everything to warn us and then sean says dude harbor seal yeah
00:23:57
Speaker
it don't and then sean says did you share this information about the anonymous tip with the coast guard and vick says absolutely not i've had dealings with them in the past and i don't trust them and then that's like the first time where sean and gus kind of side-eye her like okay it's like right off the bat they're like this is weird Yeah, it's very adversarial. Like, you can see them feeling that, and they're kind of giving her a look, like, because it does seem like there'd probably be some
00:24:32
Speaker
procedure about like you know like we were just speculating that like they might have doing involved the Coast Guard inform them um of such things especially if they relate directly so right right yeah we're starting to get a sense that something's off here yeah something's amiss and I i wonder if part of it is like Vic is a relatively like formal kind of straightforward very true person and here all of a sudden we get absolutely not like we're getting very like oh my god like a teenager yeah which we have talked about is a big theme this season yes makes tons of sense but I'm sure they're like okay what
00:25:19
Speaker
what is going on yeah and then sean asks like okay well if you suspect foul play shouldn't your lead detective be here and and gus like julia shouldn't she be here and and they're like starting to see that like this is some sort of illicit yeah activity not right which sort of That is sort of not out of character, but I guess they don't really understand why. Because sometimes she'll be like, you know, okay, you're not here. But really she means like, you know, do that thing.
00:25:53
Speaker
right She kind of communicates to them in that way. Yeah, she often gives them like unspoken permission to do things, but it's very rare that she's like, come on, we we are going to collectively Yeah, she doesn't really initiate that.
00:26:06
Speaker
Not usually. She has to keep it very right above board, like we say. like She can't be involved in the shenanigans, but she sort of looks the other way when they do it. Yes, they get good results.
00:26:18
Speaker
But this time, she spearheading the shenanigans. Yeah.
00:26:25
Speaker
And it's just going to get worse. um So we find out that the oil rig... that this guy fell off of was the Bamford number seven, which I just love that name Bamford. Yeah.
00:26:37
Speaker
It really captures the, and when we meet Mr. Bamford later, like um just like a Texan oil man. he yeah. yes I love his accent.
00:26:51
Speaker
It all works. Yeah. It all makes so much sense. And, So we're going out to the Bamford oil rig. That's what we're doing. We're going to try and like get some vibrations while we're there. Even though this isn't strictly legal.
00:27:04
Speaker
yeah Until we hear the Coast Guard pulling up. They're like, prepare to board your vehicle or whatever they say. And this is the Coast Guard.
00:27:17
Speaker
And they, you know, stop the boat and the Coast Guard boards the ship. And immediately vick and the Coast Guard are like not having it. They are seemingly already at each other's throats.
00:27:31
Speaker
And the Coast Guard like pulls this thing that Vic's holding with like the rig information on it. And they're just going back and forth ah this over like snippy little things. Like, oh, so you're going to go investigate? Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Yeah. go Oh, my. Whoa.
00:27:50
Speaker
Even Sean and Gus seem kind of like, yeah, what's going on? And and Sean tri like tries to kind of step in because before he's really got a read on the situation. And Vic has told him to step back.
00:28:02
Speaker
but But he does it anyway. And she kind of seems, once he does sort of get in the middle, Vic seems a little like... Like, this is my my psychic, so. Yes. Like, she kind of puffed up a little bit, and Sean kind of explains, or tries to win over Commander Dunlap.
00:28:22
Speaker
Jane Lynch. Which she's not having. Yes. um and And, yeah, that doesn't really work. And then they start, yeah, really going at it, and then they get into, like, the oh i think does karen like push her or something like po are pokes her pokes her and gus is like can you do that to a commander and they're like getting all in each other's face and like my nose is touching yours and then sean's finally like you can if she's your sister and it's like yeah what a reveal
00:28:55
Speaker
Yeah, great reveal. And we said this last time, I think, but just great casting. Like, I can really believe that the two of them are siblings. They have a very similar vibe, but they're also very different, you know, which I feel like very sibling-esque. And, you know, they both go into some form of, like,
00:29:18
Speaker
law enforcement I think makes sense um and then we find out later that their like entire life has just been trying to one-up each other yeah which is they're both I mean they're both essentially at the top of their field there's not really else yeah anywhere else to go unless they like I don't know wind up politics or something um but Yeah.
00:29:41
Speaker
So it is interesting that they can be so competitive and wanting to one-up each other, but they are basically equals. mean, maybe Commander Dunlap would have some something on Karen being like from a federal oh maybe a body rather than just the city police department, which is and and not even a big city at that.
00:30:01
Speaker
so Well, yeah, and it's interesting, too, Like, I wonder what the backstory, what the familial backstory is for these two, because Barbara is kind of at this objectively, like, higher station because she's a federal body. She's the commander of the Coast Guard for this area. I don't know how like jurisdiction of the Coast Guard works, obviously, but you're right. She is of a like a higher stature, but she's still bickering with her little sister. Yeah.
00:30:33
Speaker
About stupid stuff.
Subplots and Relationship Dynamics
00:30:37
Speaker
So it's like, okay, there has to be something something that happened. Like maybe Vic was the favorite.
00:30:46
Speaker
So Barbara is just Do they say something about like a lunchbox or so or a thermos? A lunchbox? or am i making that up i totally missed that but they could have am i getting that from like a different show i feel like there was something where it's like it's just like maybe it's a different show i can't uh or maybe when they're talking about lassie at the end like something she was jealous of oh that could be they yeah i tune out all the lassie stuff at the end my god this is ridiculous
00:31:17
Speaker
Yeah, I don't know. Maybe I just invented that. But yeah, I'm sure there's a lot from their childhood. But it's, that I mean, it's similar to like Henry and Sean, you know, it's like they, there's so many years And so much ammunition that they have against each other. And they keep going back. Like when we saw Henry in the last episode, like get kind of triggered. And so he went back his like old faithful Sean insults basically. Yeah. So it's it's kind of a similar dynamic in a way.
00:31:50
Speaker
Mm-hmm. Yeah, definitely. You can tell that they have regressed to teenagers when they start full-on bickering. And the bickering doesn't even stop when they get to the station because the two of them are, like, bickering in Vic's office while everybody else is like, oh, my God, what's going on?
00:32:06
Speaker
and get some really creepy lassie lines. oh yeah. Such an alluring sister. And Sean just goes, creepy? Yeah, creepy. And then later, when Jules brings up her personnel file or something.
00:32:20
Speaker
Oh, okay. And is reading through all her accomplishments. And Lassie's like so impressed. then he looks and he's like, there's no picture. and Creepier.
00:32:32
Speaker
Creepier. Definitely creepier.
00:32:37
Speaker
oh Lassie. he dev Lassie definitely likes, what we find out here is Lassie definitely likes a strong woman, which we love. Yeah. Yes. Because Barbara is definitely powerhouse.
00:32:49
Speaker
Yeah. I feel like we've kind of talked about Lassie's case in the past. um I think so. Yeah. and Was there a different like... Because I feel like we talked about how it made sense for for whatever whatever we were watching at the time. Like we talked about Marlo is also Yes. Yes, yes, yes. Like a sort of has this... know, she's involved in crime.
00:33:14
Speaker
Right. And so like there's this desire for someone... Maybe who challenges him in that way, I guess. um And in a way, like, Commander Dunlap is, like, the opposite. But maybe it's, like, a similar, like, energy.
00:33:29
Speaker
Yeah, I could see that. Yeah. It's still, like, presents some sort of thrill to him, maybe. um Yeah. Her being in control.
00:33:42
Speaker
He's very... Lassie's very ambitious. So I do think she is... kind of like prestigious so maybe that is enticing to him like someone with yeah such prestige and power and wherewithal I don't know maybe just even the fact that she's yelling at Vic maybe that's like intriguing to him yeah
00:34:06
Speaker
I wonder if there is a little bit of like wanting to annoy Vic or something. I mean, he doesn't really show that or anything, but maybe subconsciously. Maybe. He can't be the chief, so he'll... Yeah. so He'll just date her sister.
00:34:23
Speaker
does kind of seem like that from Barbara, like at the end. That Barbara, when she's like the thing with Vic, is like, you just... that whatever i you can't yeah I can have kind of a trope like yeah when like two characters ah dating but it's really about a third character yeah yeah I i could see it again feels very like high school mm-hmm And, ah we find out that the judge has officially ruled that the jurisdiction for the case goes to the Coast Guard.
00:35:00
Speaker
So the police are not allowed to investigate the matter. However, Barbara, Commander Dunlop, would like Sean and Gus to work with her, meaning the Coast Guard, on this case and therefore not the police.
00:35:15
Speaker
So she gives them instructions to meet her on the pier in about an hour to go and do some investigating. So they go and meet.
00:35:27
Speaker
And Vic is a little... Oh, she's peeved. Peeved. Yeah, totally. Totally peeved. And I do love... Yeah. Agreed. Yeah, I do love that later on, Sean sits down with her and is like, I hope you realize I did this for you so that I could tie a piece of information from there onto to the land because you're a land cop.
00:35:50
Speaker
And we can... investigate this together. I thought that was very sweet. He is so loyal and it's yeah like yeah like to her specifically because it reminds me gave him his break, you know? Yeah, true.
00:36:06
Speaker
For what a showboat he is, how he like quietly gets rid of that other guy who's going to be chief. Yes. The pick. Yes.
00:36:18
Speaker
And like makes it so she can stay and that only those the two of them know that they that they did that that was done yeah um and even now like okay yeah or even the fact now that he like to say this to vick he makes us leave the office later like that's very that's a regular that's not something that yeah that's a great great point And I love the fact that he started off and he was like, Karen, chief Karen, chief Karen thick. That feels a little long. like
00:36:57
Speaker
What's wrong with you? Like, how dare you call me that? Right. But I bet he's going back to exactly that moment when he was like, I've got you. Like, I've got your back. yeah Like, wait a minute. Let me explain, you know? Yeah. And it almost is like, like a similar thing to what we were just talking about. Like, it seems like Karen,
00:37:16
Speaker
Vic I feel funny calling her Karen also I know but like that she should know that Sean would not just like betray her but yeah she's in a very vulnerable state right now dealing with her sister and stuff like it she's yeah on guard basically and so it it makes sense that even that she would not see it even though you know, in a more secure place, she might notice that obviously Sean has her back.
00:37:45
Speaker
But yeah, you're totally right that he would send Gus away. Like, it's interesting. It's almost like he doesn't want to be seen caring um being nice or I don't know. mean, or maybe he feels like it's risky to like let more people know that maybe this is his plan.
00:38:05
Speaker
Maybe. I don't know. It is interesting. It is. i Especially with Gus, because it's like Gus knows everything. who Yeah, and when Gus is leaving the room, he says, like, for the record, i didn't want to go with your sister or whatever.
00:38:23
Speaker
i So, yeah, he's really not, like, letting Gus in at all on his aims. No, Yeah.
00:38:34
Speaker
we'll have to keep an eye on that we'll have to if that if he does that a couple more times because i've never really noticed that like him being like one-on-one with vic and pushing gus away but happened but in the sense like the like the chief thing is similar i mean had gus looked closely he might see that the photos were by bruton caster and put it together himself that's true that it was sean but like it doesn't seem like he was in on it or anything i mean he right he sort of scold sean for doing that kind of work just because he was up all night like he doesn't know what he was working on but guesses that that's what he was doing and he doesn't know right like has no reason to think it's about vick but um yeah he doesn't seem in the loop on any of that no which is interesting yeah it is
00:39:31
Speaker
All right, we're going keep, we're going to have watch. We're watch that. So as we're going to meet Commander Dunlop at the pier, we get a Guston Bia, and this time Guston Bia myopic chihuahua, which I thought was great. Ha
00:39:49
Speaker
And actually my my favorite part of this little scene, know they walk up to the to the pier. There's no boat there. There's a Coast Guard. And my favorite part is that they're like, oh, we're here to see Commander Dunlop at the Coast Guard.
00:40:03
Speaker
He takes off his hat. And in his hat is a note. I was like, what the? Did you put it in your pocket? And he's got like a vest. He's probably got a lot of pockets.
00:40:15
Speaker
That's an outfit with a lot of pockets. Lots of pockets. Put it in his hat. I bet they were just like, where's the stupidest place you can put this note? In his hat, of course. and It was so funny. Gives them the hat.
00:40:26
Speaker
I could almost see her being the kind of manager who like beats you down a little bit. so Maybe it's a humiliating thing. She like took his hat and put the note in there and then put his hat on it or something.
00:40:40
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. Keep that there. Yeah. Well, and it seems like people other than Sean and Gus really listen to her, like follow yeah follow her her you know instructions.
00:40:52
Speaker
So I'm sure if she said, okay, leave that there, they were going to leave it in their hat. Yeah. Yeah. She has like a honest ah militant energy. She does. Which I guess Coast Guard is military.
00:41:03
Speaker
so Oh, yeah. That's true. So, yeah, that would make sense. Yeah, others are literally following orders. Yeah, well, Sean and Gus are like, we don't have to do anything. We'll do whatever we want.
00:41:16
Speaker
And that's essentially what happens here. They get the note. The note says, like, stay put, essentially. and Don't do anything. Don't interfere. your Yeah, your job is to stay here and do nothing, I think.
00:41:26
Speaker
Yeah.
Unraveling Tensions and Secrets
00:41:27
Speaker
And of course, they do the exact opposite. They gotta. They gotta. I feel like there's two moments I noticed where... Which I don't know. I mean, it must have been on purpose. But they're like, we got to get out on that rig. And Gus is like, I know, but how?
00:41:46
Speaker
And that, heat they have like the exact same exchange later when they have to get back on the rig. And Gus is like, I know, but how? We can do that. They're like, we don't own boats.
00:41:57
Speaker
This is in the ocean. Such a funny like, but yeah, he says it twice. But how? But how? Yeah, so the first how that they see... this texan soldier texan man coming down the dock and a village a beautiful young woman with him and sean knows that that's bamford i don't know eventually the boat that they get on is like has bamford on it so maybe he oh so yeah sees where they're going or something but yeah he seems to know right off the bat that's who they're gonna talk to to get get out there
00:42:37
Speaker
Oh, and he says, but we're going to need cool names. Yes, that's what was just going say. We're going to need cool names. Like, of course you are. You can't do anything with without a cool name. They get on the boat.
00:42:48
Speaker
Somehow they managed to convince them, I guess by saying that they're oil investors, which is just so funny because, you know, Sean is usually the kind of person that like has...
00:43:02
Speaker
not At least like convincing knowledge to kind of back up what he's saying. Oh, yeah. And when they're walking to go meet the Commander Dunlap before they realize she's ditched him, he asks Gus, like, okay, fill me in.
00:43:15
Speaker
because Right. what does He knows nothing. Yeah. He doesn't know anything about oil. Which... Knowing that he was prospecting for oil at eight is surprising. um Maybe his his knowledge is from the ah Beverly Hillbillies, which I doubt went into very much detail.
00:43:31
Speaker
Yeah, Gus tells him like tons of information. don't remember. Specific details of like 30 something and like shifts yes and crews and stuff. And so ah later when they're on the boat and we learn it's Bamford's daughter.
00:43:47
Speaker
um yeah She asks him if they have ever process or ever invested for oil in oil before. And he's like, he yep. And starts listing like and absurd ah reproduction of what Gus has told him. Like was listing. 30 warheads and like 24 crews. 24 ships. Yeah. Whatever it is.
00:44:07
Speaker
Yeah.
00:44:10
Speaker
its and like twenty four crew four yeah Like something rid ridiculous. for Two hours each time. like Yeah. He heard the numbers.
00:44:21
Speaker
He heard the keywords. and said i was about he can produce... you know he can produce thing You know, like he remembers.
00:44:32
Speaker
So we've talked about his, you know, iDag memory or his training and stuff. So he can definitely produce a lot. But you're right. It's like he wasn't fully paying attention. And so he said, like, I think it's all the numbers correct.
00:44:44
Speaker
But yeah, but the details of what those numbers referred to. not so much yeah right over yeah and then the daughter's like that made no sense yeah and thank god gus was like actually no we're we're not we're new with this and then yeah and then she's pretty uh brusque with them and says well she is not interested in wasting our time so and then with fair yeah yeah and ah She just has this vibe of like, she's more involved in the business than one might think.
00:45:22
Speaker
Yes. When she's also, she's very like, to the point. She's yeah no nonsense. Like, it's she feels very business, you know? He, the dad, feels more like the...
00:45:37
Speaker
I don't want to say figurehead, but if you know what i mean, like the charismatic, likable, like social person who maybe gets people to that. Yeah, exactly. And he even says something about that, like like he apologizes for how unfriendly she is.
00:45:54
Speaker
Yes. And then dismisses her to let the men talk about business or whatever. And she's, yeah. Yeah. Oh, she's not happy. And I love Sean's line. You know, Billy Joe, it's the 21st century. Women have actually earned the right to be treated equally. like Yeah, actually they have.
00:46:12
Speaker
Yeah, it's like you don't often see like Sean get i don't know political yeah no well because he's usually just so wrapped up in his jokes but here he was like that was ridiculous please don't do that and still a joke but it's yeah it's like and it's ballsy to say that to this man and this man cracks me up i love this man's accent it's like very like clipped southern text and it sounds like he's got like
00:46:45
Speaker
chewing tobacco or something like like you could imagine him with like a piece of wheat yes it is yeah and well he's got like the 10 gallon hat yeah yeah it's it's pretty great and oh yeah and he even has the like southern like colloquialisms that's like even a blind man could see whatever and Sean's like well technically blind man can't see anything fer a joe yeah yeah because what she he kind of reveals that he knows they're not oh yeah real investors but he allowed them to come along so he could see what they were up to yeah so he is not as you know dumb as he might be
00:47:31
Speaker
ah playing he's playing them a little bit too, you know? Yes. Yes. And to Gus, not Gus, Sean, of course, has to introduce themselves once they've been bo exposed. Exposed.
00:47:45
Speaker
Yes, exposed. Thank you. Once they've been exposed. And he ah he introduces himself, of course, as psychic Sean Spencer. But Gus is his partner, Chesterfield McMillan and wife.
00:47:59
Speaker
he's both so funny he's chesterfield and the wife or is he his partner and his wife which we often see guests play along you know yes not react to those things but he gives them a little like what
00:48:16
Speaker
well countyba And then that's when we jump to the station for our B story with Jules and Lassie. And we find out that they have a missing person that they're looking into, Dr. Christopher Renaud, who works at the university.
00:48:35
Speaker
And Jules is, you know, going over to talk to Lassie. And he tells her that he is thinking about asking out Barbara. And would like Jules' opinion.
00:48:47
Speaker
is like, well, I think it's a bad idea. but I love Jules' whole energy in this interaction. Like, she's just got this, like like, crazy eyes a little bit and, like, a big smile. Like, what are you talking about?
00:49:01
Speaker
And it is funny because we're coming off sort of a recent thread of, like, Lassie needing a girlfriend. Yes. And so there's like the, there's this extra layer of humor in the fact that like both Vic and Jules have been like sort of right working on this delegating it and and Jules really trying and yet ah yeah this is of course now Lassie's choosing the worst possible person worst possible person and like maybe not personality wise like maybe personality wise they would have gotten along who knows yeah but like purely situational yeah think about it Lasseter like that Jules is like
00:49:46
Speaker
yeah she's the chief sister they're they're bickering all the time like are you crazy stop it yeah he's like if like we saw how they were yelling at each other and he's like yeah like he loves it and i think it's in that scene where he says she's a real snappy isn't she wow wow
00:50:09
Speaker
wow
00:50:12
Speaker
oh yeah wow and then they're like we'll just drop it for now like let's go work on the case yeah like yeah thank god ah go
00:50:24
Speaker
so that's like the super weird backdrop you get and it'll come back don't you worry o So we jump back to the oil rig where we find out our safety officer's name was Butch Hicks.
00:50:41
Speaker
And we do like a little... kind of walk and talk around the rig where we're seeing kind of the main places where we're going to go the geology lab because the dad mr bamford said like if once they revealed what they're actually there for shining us you know that they right think there might be some suspicious or there might be foul play with um hicks's death then bamford is like okay well if there was and i want to know about it so even though i don't like being lied to i'll let you come and look around yeah
00:51:14
Speaker
So he's actually very forthcoming and cooperative. Yeah. Which, I mean, I think is fair, especially like I would be worried personally as an owner of a business if my person who was in charge of safety a is no longer there and then B might have been killed.
00:51:34
Speaker
I'd be like, oh, this is a very dangerous job. Who's trying to kill the safety person? Please find out. Yeah. Thanks. And it does seem like they couldn't or he thought they had a good relationship. well When we get into like what act like the nut shelling, I guess.
00:51:49
Speaker
Yeah. feel like I have some questions about the conspiracy, but we can address that when we get there. All right. We will get there. so we ah yeah So we get get like kind of a walk and talk around the rig. We get to see little bits of how kind of this place works.
00:52:06
Speaker
And one of the big places where we land is the geology lab, which we find out is Ashley, his daughter's attempt at rigging. Oh, yeah. Okay. Go ahead. his daughter yeah his daughter's intent bringing them we haven't gone we're not going in there but yes we get no not yet we're just passing by yes we're finding out that this is like an attempt to make them more high tech to make them more like scientifically based instead of just guessing kind of where the oil is going to be with those you know feelings and vibrations that sean was talking about yeah because he's punched a few dry holes mr bamford right but i was like nobody to tell me where to dig
00:52:40
Speaker
Yeah, it's like, those are some interesting statements there. But all right, I'll take it because it's in a nice Southern accent. Yeah, so we get to Hicks, which again, Hicks is the...
00:52:53
Speaker
safety officer we get to his office and we start snooping around and trying to find some information and we start to notice a couple of things like we notice a dive canister from ah surf shop from the dive shop where the dive tip came in which yeah I don't think we mentioned it, but Sean, when they were going to the docks to meet Dunlap, he noticed the payphone, which Vic said is where they traced the anonymous tip call to.
00:53:26
Speaker
a Payphone in front of that same dive shop, and there's a camera trained on it. Yes, and we know it because it's like the same um um emblem. on both the dive shop and the canister.
00:53:40
Speaker
But we can't do too much more snooping because then the Coast Guard show up. and and um it was that One other thing that they kind of just see is that there's a ton of ah like written ah yeah violations written up and stuff. So this guy seems like a real stickler.
00:53:57
Speaker
Yes. So the Coast Guard show up and they're like, Mr. Spencer! Yeah. what are you doing here i thought i told you to stay there and do nothing yeah he's like i'm having a vision presumably they were already there around huh because like yeah they were going out to the rig and they left way a lot like earlier yeah way before so they just maybe heard that they were aboard now Yeah, could be. I mean, it it does seem like a very, I've never been on an oil rig, so I don't know, obviously, but it seems like a very expansive place. Like there's multiple decks and there's like outdoor, indoor, below. Like there's got to be, so I'm imagining like sleeping quarters and stuff like that just in case.
00:54:40
Speaker
So maybe they were in like a totally separate section of the rig.
Escalating Tensions and Evidence Gathering
00:54:45
Speaker
And therefore, like, just didn't cross paths. And then maybe they heard, like, there's a, you know, there's two random guys on board. What are those guys doing? Oh, Bamford got here. What's he You know what i mean?
00:54:54
Speaker
And kind tipped them off. Yeah. So they went and found him. Yes. And in the most compromising position, of course, where they're, like, actually looking for... Going through all this stuff. Yeah.
00:55:06
Speaker
But Sean, of course, takes it as a moment to have a psychic vision, which... And a pretty one. He's always fun. Yeah, it's fun to see him get to do it for like new people.
00:55:19
Speaker
And not just Vic and Lassie and and Jules. But he he tells Barbara that he can tell, he knows where the tipster is. He's in the morgue. Yeah, i love that build.
00:55:32
Speaker
ah Yeah. She's like, where? The morgue. And then end scene. Yeah. Well, then we come back to that scene, but commercial. Commercial break. Yes. And yeah he is guessing, obviously, that the tipster is Hicks because of the diving canister with the emblem on it, meaning that he must have gone to the dive shop, the dive shop being right across the street from the payphone. it would have been easy for him to stop by the payphone and make the tips.
00:56:01
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah, and I think also, like, he does seem like he takes security very seriously. So, like, it makes sense that yeah he would be the person. track like and And maybe, you know, he's in a position where someone could try to take advantage of him. So, like, the whole that he said, you know, he was risking everything that the tipster said. Right. he' was risking everything to tell them.
00:56:23
Speaker
Like, it all that does all make sense that it would be him. Right. And we get a very interesting response from Barbara, which is essentially that that information doesn't change anything.
00:56:36
Speaker
Which I was like, how does that not change anything? Like, I mean, I guess maybe on its face, like it could still be an accident, but it certainly makes it more suspicious. Like it it certainly makes one feel like we should look into it. Just make sure it's not. Yeah. If he's risking everything, presumably yeah that creates a ah level of danger Yeah.
00:56:58
Speaker
And just the fact that he's report like he's the safety person, so theoretically you would think he could report unsafe behavior. So the fact that he's not reporting unsafe behavior and is doing it somewhere else, like that kind of reeks of conspiracy yeah to me.
00:57:14
Speaker
Like that's his only option. Right. Exactly. Something's afoot. Something is. Something is. But Barbara gets mad at them, obviously, because they didn't listen.
00:57:26
Speaker
She seems very used to having people listen to her orders. So she tells them that there's a boat getting out of here in an hour and they need to be on it. So they have just an hour to interview everybody that they have to find out all the information that they have to on the rig until they're no longer going to be there.
00:57:42
Speaker
So they start interviewing people, some of whom include the daughter, Ashley, which I love her line here, regardless of how my father treats me. I'm not the cruise director here. Yeah. Well, they, yeah, they attempt to interview her.
00:57:55
Speaker
yeah And Gus is hungry. And so, and they smell food. And so they like, and also Sean gives her this look like lip. curl like and it reminded me because i think we talked about watching The Breakfast Club that um Judd Nelson how his flirtation style kind of reminded me of Sean like I could see Sean or James getting yeah some of that from him and I felt like that was one of those moments where he gets like almost predatory but not in like a I mean like in a super weird way but not in like an actually predatory way but he has this like vibe and uh
00:58:34
Speaker
Yeah, it goes up to her. And i ah I like how they play with this because as much as Sean is like, you know, women are actually equal, like he is also completely underestimating her and treating her and in a way that like you know makes him not realize sort of what's going on because he's just yeah not even seeing her as a capable person in this environment.
00:59:03
Speaker
Yeah. So she disses them and is like, peaces out and they go find the mess hall. Yes.
00:59:15
Speaker
Where we get some nasty looking food. Yeah. This really shows the ah ruggedness of this workplace. Yeah, definitely. The people are like, you know, they clearly have been doing hard labor. They're in the elements.
00:59:32
Speaker
They're eating oh yeah chow. Chow. Chow Bella? What? Throwback.
00:59:44
Speaker
Yeah, and they do, none of them, no one that they seem to interview down in the mess hall, seems to be a fan of hicks they all have very choice for choice words and even the one person who does seem to be somewhat empathetic towards him they push back on him are like wow my gosh you're you know you seem like you're one of the only people that is like understanding and he's like no i wish i killed him first with a knife or a gun or whatever he said should have been a knife i forget yeah what i think it was a gun or a gun yeah
01:00:17
Speaker
Yeah, they're just not. I would have used a gun, yeah. Yeah. They're, yeah, they're not very understanding Hicks as a safety person. Yes.
01:00:29
Speaker
Could have been anybody and sort of where we're left. Right. There are yeah tons of people who seem to have a motive for his death. Well, think we go back to the station and we have the the moment with Sean and Vic, which we already talked about. But I have Karen, and chief care Chief Karen, Chief Karen Vic written down. That's what's next.
01:00:53
Speaker
Yes. He's like, that feels just too long. Yeah. and i Oh, and in that scene, he's trying to like convince her to let them go uh yes to hicks's house right think or at least a warrant or get them in there somehow yes and she says no and of course they break in yeah of course which i love that sean of course has to make the distinction that we didn't break in the window was open yeah Okay, pretty sure you're still in there without any legal reason to be in there.
01:01:26
Speaker
So yeah, they they break into the house, which I also think is very interesting that they didn't have a warrant because then this gets addressed later by Vic, who is like, you didn't have a warrant.
01:01:37
Speaker
And then they just gloss over it. Like, it didn't even matter because they found the dead body. I thought, I feel like every time I watch this episode, I think he's going to say like, you know, he's not going to cop right them having gone in all he can i mean he can sense that there's some layers of body in there like maybe i mean i guess it's already been moved so maybe they have to kind of that's that's what i was wondering could they not get him back in the closet properly yeah i also was noticing in this like also when they were in Hicks' room, they really take no precaution to, like, not leave prints or anything. no.
01:02:10
Speaker
Yeah. Which I guess is just the nature of the show. Maybe, like, suspension disbelief. um But, yeah, so had anybody looked into it, they probably could have True.
01:02:22
Speaker
They would know that Sean and Gus were in there. Yeah, that's fair. touching the computer. i guess just straight up types in the password. Like, there's still no issues.
01:02:33
Speaker
Yeah, and maybe it'd be, like,
01:02:36
Speaker
I don't know. But maybe in the sense that there's no one really there to press charges, I guess, unless he had family.
01:02:47
Speaker
Oh, maybe. Who, like, has rights to this house. But, like. Maybe. i mean, all because all Sean and Gus did was go into a place and and find a body.
01:03:00
Speaker
Right. So it's like, I don't know. I mean, they didn't even know that the guy wasn't, and they're not going to try him. He's dead. well he's dead. it's like, maybe none of it matters in this particular scenario. Yeah, it could be that. i Okay, that I guess.
01:03:21
Speaker
That makes sense. So, yeah. Maybe it doesn't matter. But it is funny that they're like, he went in without a warrant and Sean's like, suddenly I need a warrant. Yes. He makes the whole point to be like, I've never used a warrant before. Okay? Yeah.
01:03:35
Speaker
Fine. Which is funny because I feel like up to now there's sort of an impression that nobody knows that they're doing all this sneaking around. Correct. But yeah, he basically admits like...
01:03:48
Speaker
that they are doing this and not having warrants so I don't know no one ever pays attention what I do beforehand stop looking into it now okay yeah they find a lot in inside the house before all the cops get there um they find or Gus finds a computer they log into the computer because Sean clocks the password on the bottom of the computer and theyre the reflection of the CD which I love him using his own tells to fool Gus yeah because Gus knows that you know how he works that he just looks at stuff and like clocks it and so Gus is used to seeing him do that and that's what Sean does and then says Panther 21 and it works and Gus is like you got that from looking around the room and Sean's like no it was on the bottom yeah I can see it in an inflection so that's fun yeah so good and they get
01:04:46
Speaker
from logging into the computer that someone with the name bishop 77 is the tipster not hicks and this person has been sending hicks a bunch of information about the dangerous stuff that's been going on well like threats the ship yeah like having to do things like you have to or i'm gonna go to the authorities or something like i don't i don't remember what all the emails said but they were like yeah one line and like a lot of exclamation points and like Yeah, so it seems like... And this is where I get a little fuzzy.
01:05:18
Speaker
Yes. Who is Hicks... Is Hicks in on the risky drilling? Oh.
01:05:28
Speaker
We might have to, like, when Sean nutshells, we might have to read through that whole part of the transcript. Yeah. um no because I I feel like...
01:05:40
Speaker
To be in the know of the risky drilling, one would have to have some geographical awareness of where they are. But I bet when you're out in the ocean, like it's hard to tell.
01:05:54
Speaker
so Why does he kill? Well, okay. So then reveal. Yeah. What actually happened? Gus smells onions and gets mad at Sean for eating onions at lunch.
01:06:09
Speaker
which I and just love is so hilarious. Like, we've talked about this before. You can't eat onions. And he's very sensitive to smells, so you know, it makes sense that he would need to set some ground rules there.
01:06:21
Speaker
Yes. um And Sean says... he didn't eat onions he ate everything but onions ah um and then Gus goes into super smeller super sniffer mode and does this like bounce thing as he goes to the source of the smell which is the closet and I love that while he's doing this Sean is like smelling his breath and he's like it smells good that smells really good yeah so weird well Gus is also like I got you those mints take those mints
01:06:54
Speaker
All that banter is great. Popped a bunch mints. ah Yeah, it's too funny. And so inside the closet we find the dead body of Dr. Christopher Renaud, who is the missing person that Jules and Lassie were looking into.
01:07:10
Speaker
But that's a good point. why Why did he kill him? I don't really know i think Sean says... hix Hicks refuses to address because he's like seeing this play out in his mind. yes This is him telling Vic, Dunlap, and their respective teams.
01:07:30
Speaker
um Hicks, he refuses to address the issue probably because he's covering something up. And then, fearing that the truth would get out, Hicks... Hammer time.
01:07:43
Speaker
That's so good. The hammer time.
01:07:47
Speaker
So, so i guess Hicks is involved, but it seems Renaud is sort of also involved because he did the fake map? But maybe he has a conscience?
01:07:57
Speaker
I don't... Okay, because my... my read on that was that there was already a fake map and then renault made a real map right and that's what i kind of figured it out that's kind of also what i felt but then sean saying when they are comparing the maps like why were
01:08:22
Speaker
why would well um hold on let me look it up now
01:08:32
Speaker
to why would Renault hand draw a map that already existed? But maybe he yeah maybe he is just saying like because he hand drew it.
01:08:44
Speaker
Or no, it's when
01:08:49
Speaker
when he talks to Ashley, the daughter, and tells her later your father is drilling into a fault line, he made a fake map with the help of dr Renault.
01:09:02
Speaker
Huh. Well, that doesn't make much sense. I don't know. Maybe he... Maybe Renault just got, like, cold feet. Maybe he was like, we can't keep doing this. Like, we have to tell someone. And then Hicks was like, we can't tell anybody.
01:09:18
Speaker
Shut up. And then hammer time. And then... Yeah, maybe Hicks... Okay. Jumping ahead again, i guess... We're pretty much there anyway. know the To the whole reveal, which we haven't even said who did the killing, but I guess we can wait still.
01:09:37
Speaker
But when he confronts that person, he says, I know that's why you had Renaud make the fake map so that nobody would know you were drilling into a dangerous fault line.
01:09:48
Speaker
And when Butch Hicks found out about it, you did what any good child would do in your place. You had no choice. You had to kill him. Oh, so Hicks didn't know? And Renault did?
01:10:00
Speaker
Maybe Renault went to Hicks. and But then why would Hicks kill him? Yeah. i mean, maybe he didn't believe him or maybe he felt that... Maybe it was an accident.
01:10:14
Speaker
We hit him with a hammer a bunch of times on accident. Was it a hammer? Or was he just saying a hammer? No, it was a hammer. Oh, okay. He hit him with a hammer a bunch of times accident. Yeah, no. Okay. Let's go back to that. Hold on.
01:10:31
Speaker
Clearly we are unsure. I mean, this is a tough one. There's a lot of people. Yeah, there's a lot of moving parts. He refuses to address the issue probably because he's coming he's covering something up.
01:10:45
Speaker
So we realize, right, that so we've realized that Renault is dead at Hicks' house. We got to get back to the oil rig in some way.
Climactic Confrontation and Resolutions
01:10:56
Speaker
But no one wants to take them there. Yeah, they're all like, okay, we're go investigate. don't know why. Are they mad at him because he went in the house? I guess. I mean, I feel like that makes sense.
01:11:06
Speaker
Yeah. They just like don't want him involved anymore, I guess. But of course, the boys have to find a way to get there. So they go to the only person that they know that has a fishing boat, which is Henry. And Henry is not having any of their shenanigans.
01:11:20
Speaker
Not to mention, apparently his boat doesn't go out that far, which I didn't even realize that boats did that. But yeah is both ah he seems like almost sort of like he would, but he can't.
01:11:33
Speaker
Yeah. Like he's worried about something happening to the boat. Yeah, like it's just not designed for that. But it is also funny that with Sean and Gus trying to like create a ploy, kind of like dresser but the the bookshelf in the last episode.
01:11:48
Speaker
Yes, the bookshelf. They want to go fishing. Right, of course. Finally. and And Henry mentions that the last time Sean got out of it with a one word excuse books books
01:12:05
Speaker
and then um and then they like riff about how like they heard fish are biting and biting yeah and Henry is like oh it's not pike is it and they're like yeah it is and he's like okay well that's a freshwater fish so you dumb dumb really going on So he says, you know, he can't take him out, but Captain Dale can.
01:12:29
Speaker
He'll just have to do some chores. And they're like, all right. Well, we cut to this sort of cliched man. like could like My husband was watching and he said, is this a Jaws reference? Which I haven't seen Jaws in years, so I don't know.
01:12:49
Speaker
But... I don't know if that was some sort of Jaws reference, but he said there's character like that. So we will have to watch Jaws when they do the shark episode. So maybe we'll see. um But yeah, he just is like a real caricature of almost, I mean, could be like a backwoods serial killer or just, I mean, but he's like on the ocean and he just like grins at them he out water.
01:13:14
Speaker
this bucket of chum like yeah bloody fish parts yeah and it is tough this episode was tough on the tummy between the mess hall scene and that yeah full yeah definitely a little gross But they do manage to get there. Thank goodness.
01:13:35
Speaker
Because of of Captain Dale, even though Gus smells like fish. Amazing that they did it. i'm like i know them I know. I guess they were just like, it's this or nothing.
01:13:47
Speaker
don't need to. Which, there's going to be another... and it is. It's the shark episode, isn't it? Yeah. where and I just feel like that guy is a similar character. So maybe that is Gus thing.
01:13:58
Speaker
I don't know. But we'll see. Yeah, we'll have to talk about it again when we get to the shark one. Because you're right, the shark episode and this guy, they feel very similar.
01:14:10
Speaker
So they break into the geology lab and... This is when we find out all the information about the clear map. And they're digging in a spot different than where they say they're digging. They're actually digging on the Oak Ridge Fault Line.
01:14:28
Speaker
Which is apparently super dangerous. So they are realizing that this is the thing. that the anonymous tipster was talking about the fact that they were digging on a dangerous fault line. I also love the fact that there was a little riff in here as they broke into the office about how Gus's credit card is now ruined. Oh my gosh.
01:14:49
Speaker
It had 29.7% interest. I did you a favor. That was so funny. 29.7% like, know holy crap. Pretty steep, Gus.
01:14:59
Speaker
And as such a, you know, financial, financially minded guy. I'm surprised that he would do that. Maybe a good rewards program or something. That's true. Good.
01:15:10
Speaker
Yeah. Did we mention that now the their running theory is that Renaud is the tipster, right? We did not mention that, but yes, that is that is their theory now. Because Renaud was Bishop 77.
01:15:24
Speaker
Yes. And Hicks killed him. So again, hammertime you know, adds, yes, hammer time. That does add the stakes are very high with whatever their cover...
01:15:36
Speaker
whatever is being covered up yes just thinking again about how i don't really know how everybody's involved but oh well well so let's let's just kind of walk through until the nutshelling so then we can discuss it so ashley bamford walks into the geology lab and sean pretty much tells her everything that they just found out and hit and really like says it's so soft and like babies kind of yes And candles are like a delicate flower, which I feel like it's just like.
01:16:11
Speaker
And she like she's kind of playing it up. She does. She uses it to her advantage, which I feel like doesn't make like she's another very interesting character who yeah really resents how she's treated, but uses that as a way to play other people.
01:16:31
Speaker
Mm hmm. And play other people she does, because she tells the boys, all right, let's go to the radio room, and we can radio up to the top deck and let them know. And as they walk into the so-called radio room, she pulls a gun on them. Turns out it's not the radio room. It's a closet full of, like...
01:16:49
Speaker
toxic chemicals yeah makes Gus very upset and she locks them in there pretty much and goes up to the top deck yeah but first before Sean is like he's like pointing his finger like wagging his finger and like I might have made a mistake yes yeah yeah because he was explaining to her that her dad did all of it Right. She was like, oh no, I can't, I can't believe it.
01:17:19
Speaker
Also another thing from like the map room to the end, it's like so thrilling. Like I love the music when they're in the map, in the geologist room and like comparing the maps and stuff. It's like and very, uh, suspenseful music.
01:17:36
Speaker
Yeah. And then, yeah, there's like these stakes and then when, yeah. So then she goes up to the top deck, leaving them there. And, uh, The cavalry have arrived. Thank goodness.
01:17:48
Speaker
Everyone is there. Lassie, Jules, Vic, Barbara, and they are talking Ashley like, we're just a little confused. We've checked the alibis of like everybody else on the, I was say the plane, on the rig.
01:18:03
Speaker
And everyone else is accounted for, except for you. and it's so interesting because, you know, a chopper came in on that night and they told us everyone that was there was on the manifest except for one person. And that person again was you.
01:18:18
Speaker
Interesting. Pray tell. Yeah. Yeah, and the the way this is all, like, cut together is also very, like, it just feels so intense. And there's, like, I think they, did they get here on a chopper? Like, it's very loud, and they're, like, yeah yelling over the sounds. and And she looks like a caged animal, just, like like, looking for an exit route, kind of. And I feel like she uses that energy in how she's playing Sean and Gus, too, because she's, like, sort of,
01:18:45
Speaker
um i mean, and it fits for her, like, being you know, like, oh, there's an emergency, but really she's, like, feeling cornered, I think, and yes and you really see that here, because there's, like, these five people, like, rapid fire, like, and so, and this, and this, and this, and this, and she's just, like, ah, I, ah, and then Lassie notices she has a gun,
01:19:09
Speaker
And dives in front of everybody and says, she's got a weapon. And then all hell breaks All hell breaks loose. Yeah.
01:19:17
Speaker
She runs down into the oil rig, into like the bowels of the oil rig. She pulls her gun. are shooting. And this is so exciting too. Like this is, I think it is like our first proper gun battle.
01:19:30
Speaker
Yes. I think you're right. Because, and and I was wondering, again, maybe if we'd watch There Will Be Blood. I don't know. I was like, is this? Sort of an homage, because it almost felt like a Western or something, which we do have the Bamford character being sort of that kind of um character.
01:19:50
Speaker
and And yeah, it's just like so heightened for Psyche. Yeah. um And yeah, so that was fun. And I wonder if it's sort of nod to anything, but...
01:20:04
Speaker
I don't know. We'll have to watch and and get back. you on that But yeah, the the shootout in the in the bowels is very interesting. you know Everyone's like hiding behind stuff and looking around corners and Sean and Gus are I always think it's so interesting when Sean and Gus are are involved because they don't have weapons.
01:20:25
Speaker
yeah Like, ever. Yeah, and I forget. So they were, like, banging on the door because they heard the gunfire and they're, like, banging on the door and Gus is like, shouldn't we stay here? aren't we, like,
01:20:37
Speaker
like pretty sure the first rule of gunfire is you don't run towards it um but yeah sean really wants out obviously gotta be a part of everything um and then last year jules open it the door and they he's like it's ashley bamford and they're like and last he's like we know we're in pursuit it's just like all so exciting Yeah, it's very intense.
01:21:00
Speaker
And he's like, you stay put. And then and then Sean's like, uh-huh. And as soon as they're out of like eye line, Sean's like ready to go. And Gus is like, didn't you hear? It's a strange expression. I was never put to begin with. He riffs on expression of stay put, as he is wont to do.
01:21:21
Speaker
And yeah, really throws himself into the firefighter. oh and yes but Did they talk about Gus as a tale before they got out? no Or is it as they're going over there?
01:21:34
Speaker
As they're going over there. Which I love. Yeah, so funny. you you can't really i know you remember our favorite prank from 7th grade.
01:21:45
Speaker
Gus's table. And I also just think it's so funny because every time and this might be because they use Gus as a table a couple times throughout this series. But I always think in this episode that he's going to go out and actually be a table.
01:21:59
Speaker
But he doesn't. Yeah. It always shocks me. i always forget. I know. it i mean, it is shocking that Gus would leave him hanging out there. i know. And he's like, Sean literally walks into like the line of fire. He's standing right in front of Ashley Bamford, like trying to talk her down from this crazy ledge she's on.
01:22:19
Speaker
And he's like, I'm putting my cards on the table. And
01:22:26
Speaker
Gus is like, I'm not a table. Gus is statue. Yeah.
01:22:33
Speaker
Gus is a sellout.
01:22:40
Speaker
Accurate. Gus is terrified. Leave him alone. But john you know Sean does a very good job of talking Ashley down. He does. He does eventually get the gun away from her. But this is after talking about like you know all of his daddy issues essentially. understanding interesting. like As much as he he really hasn't shown up to this point how much he has assessed that situation you know like he makes that one comment when they're on the boat to like which suggests he recognizes that he that the dad is very dismissive with her but like then at this point he's like no i get you and then he like really yeah he really sells to her that he completely understands where she's coming from and like and why she had to do all these things which is you know classic tv how to handle it
01:23:32
Speaker
yeah A crazy person with the gun. Yeah. yeah yeah and he I mean, he manages to get the gun away from her. She's like, you know, near tears.
01:23:46
Speaker
And again, I always think that, you know, they're going to like hug or something. Lassie just and tackles her.
01:23:55
Speaker
Right to the ground. And then he's like, de Barbersee. Lasseter. Yeah. Not the correct priorities. I know, and I feel like that really puts his whole behavior from the moment they got on the rig into perspective.
01:24:11
Speaker
Like, just diving in front of them, like, she's got a weapon, and he's just really in hero mode. oh I forgot. You mentioned you were like... you know you mentioned you were like Trying not to pay attention to Carlton, but we also didn't mention when they were at Hicks' house and Vic, like, says, like, well, Sean tries to say, like, okay, so here's what I think we should do next. And Vic is like, Lasseter and Jules are going to investigate and, like, kind of ditch him.
01:24:44
Speaker
And Lasseter says to Jules, like, this is great. Barbara just saw me, or just saw Vic choose me over Sean. And Jules is just like, oh, God. Yeah, Juliet is like, literally, what is happening?
01:24:56
Speaker
Like, this can't be happening right now. That's like shot or Lassie's, like, whole thing is he is just like, how is he ah being presented in Barbara's Eyes?
01:25:08
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. Which, i guess, works to his favor. Yeah. It all works. They arrest Ashley. Yeah. And we get back to the station. The boys have gotten Vic a beautiful gift basket, which I was like, oh, my God, so thoughtful.
01:25:22
Speaker
So cute. So nice. And then Barbara walks in and, you know, before now it seemed like the sisters have kind of made amends. Yeah, and Vicki even says, like, thank you for, yeah I should be thanking you for bringing us back together. Yeah. And they seem in good spirits when Barbara walks and they start talking to each other. And Barbara's like, I'm thinking about asking out Lasseter, Detective Lasseter.
01:25:46
Speaker
And Karen was like... ah no like don't don't do that and sean and gus in the corner are also like oh o yeah uh bad bad call and this starts another bickering session about lassie which i'm like this is again so high school like so unnecessary just absurd you just want it for yourself but She's like, I'm married. you know And even if I wasn't, no.
01:26:16
Speaker
and let last No, no, no, no, no. no no no no no It's like Lassie. It's like Jules when Lassie was like, you know, when a senior officer and she's like, no, yeah and na no and no, no, And, that's it. Yeah. And so, and then it's, he was like, then she wants to even more.
01:26:39
Speaker
Yeah, of course. So she walks out of Bix's office and passes Lassie and the haunt is like, you, me, lunch. Yeah. He's like, yes, ma'am. Or whatever.
01:26:49
Speaker
I would have loved to see how that lunch ended.
01:26:54
Speaker
You know, ah as much as Lassie, as much as her vibe appeals to him, I kind of feel like he couldn't cut it. I feel like he's too much of a softy, really.
01:27:06
Speaker
Yeah, I don't think so. I think it would have ended like, I think it would have ended very similarly to the Sean and Gus thing with Barb, where I feel like she almost just asked him to, like, annoy Vic, maybe.
01:27:19
Speaker
And I think she would have sat down minutes. Although she into conversation wanting to before they, like, fell out again. That's true.
01:27:31
Speaker
Yeah, I feel like Lasseter can't actually take the the intensity of her...
01:27:38
Speaker
No. Her comments and her authority. Yeah. um Well, it's kind of like the whole opposites a attract thing. Like, I think Lasseter is very intense like that. Too similar.
01:27:49
Speaker
Yeah, I think it'd be maybe too much intensity. Like, that's why him and Marlo work so well. Because Marlo's, like, interesting and, like, keeps him on his toes, but is very soft.
01:27:59
Speaker
and Yeah, and I feel like that, too. Like, I think Lassie on the inside is very soft. Yeah, agree. He's like a hard candy. He's got a hard shell. Yeah.
01:28:11
Speaker
He's like a Tootsie Pop. Love Tootsie Pops. The world may never know. to
01:28:22
Speaker
Yeah. yeah Yeah.
01:28:25
Speaker
Very fun. Fun but episode indeed. So we've gotten a A Sean and Gus throwback to high school. We've gotten a Henry throwback to high school. We've gotten a Vic throwback
Preview of Next Episode and Conclusion
01:28:37
Speaker
to high school. We just need a Jules throwback.
01:28:38
Speaker
And then we've gotten everyone. Well, funny that you say that. I don't know if it's quite the same, but maybe. but next we have a Jules episode. Talk Derby to me.
01:28:50
Speaker
Yes. I do love this episode. This episode's so much fun. Mm-hmm. And I feel like maybe the way Jules gets so into character or going undercover is almost like a similar thing.
01:29:07
Speaker
um And maybe she is sort of living vicariously through those and by getting to. be like a different version of herself yeah um so yeah maybe it will will fall in line with sort of what we've been seeing so far i hope so that'd be great are we gonna watch the whip it think was whip it yeah yeah never seen it so oh it's so good that should expose us to the the culture of i'm so excited roller derby
01:29:41
Speaker
It's intense. It's definitely intense. I don't know what to expect. I can't really imagine like a whole movie about that. Well, so as follows it follows like a character getting into roller derby and then like the camaraderie and and all that.
01:29:57
Speaker
But it's good. It's enjoyable. I really liked it. thought it was fun. thought it 2009. When is this episode? I like maybe we did this research already, but we'll see.
01:30:11
Speaker
Oh, 2008. It predates Whippet. Oh, it really? my gosh. Wow, that's really interesting. That is very interesting. Because I would have thought that maybe that like put it in they're on their radar. but Yeah, that was my thought too, but no.
01:30:29
Speaker
Interesting. I wonder if there is anything that was like beforehand. Yeah. or Derby movie.
01:30:43
Speaker
1980s? Let's see.
01:30:46
Speaker
Okay. A notable roller derby movie from the 1980s. Hell on Wheels.
01:30:54
Speaker
Finders Keepers.
01:30:57
Speaker
Roller Boogie. Unholy Rollers? Is this like a whole genre that we didn't know about? Rollerball? Maybe.
01:31:07
Speaker
The best roller derby movies of all time. right eyes on with it Whippet's number one. Kansas City Bomber is number two. which That doesn't seem like it should be about roller derby, but that's okay.
01:31:18
Speaker
ah Number three, Alita, Battle Angel. Number four, Rollerball. Number five, Unholy Rollers. Number six, This is Roller Derby. Number seven, Hell on Wheels. Number eight, Roller Derby Girl. Number nine, Derby. Number ten, Blood on the Flat Track.
01:31:34
Speaker
So, yeah. Seems like there are at least a few.
01:31:42
Speaker
At least two handfuls. I guess Whippet is number one, so we can still watch it. Should we watch anything older? Like anything that might have been something Sean and Gus would have watched?
01:31:54
Speaker
Yeah, maybe. Maybe something reference point. Even though not really them.
01:32:00
Speaker
But I guess, I don't know. you think, just kind of getting into the next episode perhaps, but do you think Jules has any relationship with Roller Derby? Like, would she have seen any of these movies to like... Maybe.
01:32:16
Speaker
Sort of know how to behave?
01:32:20
Speaker
Like she did some... Some background. Yeah, or even if like if she had seen that in her youth, like would that have made her even more excited to get involved? Maybe.
01:32:32
Speaker
I feel like probably, right? Yeah. I think it's also sort of got like a bling ring kind of vibe because they are like troop of roller derby yes people who are involved in crime. Is there any movie like that?
01:32:45
Speaker
We'll have to do some research. Okay. So... yeah The only one I know is Whip It. yeah now yeah Now it's like a whole thing. We might have to stop to a whole Foundation series on roller derby movies. Just on roller derby. You can do a course roller derby in film.
01:33:06
Speaker
Alright, well, if you would like to join us back here next week for some roller derby madness, ah feel free. of course, we're here every Tuesday. You can join us back here then. Season Episode 7.
01:33:21
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