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S3E3: True Story!!
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Series spoilers abound! We’re watching Season 3, Episode 3 “Daredevils!” in the most daringly emotional episode yet. The boys find themselves wrapped up in a private case with Dutch the Clutch, renowned daredevil. Someone seems to be out to get him– but who? We’re talking fame, alcohol, Jules having A FRIEND, and Dunkin’. So grab your delicious churro and join Kylie and Skyler on this new episode of Phsysics 101!
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Introduction to Sci6101 Podcast
00:00:20
Speaker
Alright, everyone and welcome to the Sci6101 where we discuss everything about the world of Psyche and the antics of Sean and Gus in sunny Santa Barbara. I'm Skylar and this is my partner Yuki the Hiccuping Terrier and today we'll be talking about season 3, episode 3 of the famed TV show Psyche.
Excitement for Psyche Season 3, Episode 3
00:00:39
Speaker
Daredevils! Daredevils! brown I feel like I say this about every episode but I love this episode. Love this episode. It's just, I think it might ah b that we have, we know, we already have some very lovable characters on the show that we get to visit every episode. But i love Dutch the Clutch.
00:01:07
Speaker
He is just such a lovable wackadoo. Great character and great performance. Like the levels that he gives us. I don't know his name. Let me look it up.
00:01:18
Speaker
Oh, yeah. I don't even know who the actor is. A proper shout out. Yeah,
00:01:25
Speaker
yeah because like You know, obviously he has a very heavy scene at the end, but like he has these moments throughout where like his main mode kind of is like just off the wall.
Skylar's Multitasking Struggles
00:01:37
Speaker
But then I also love like when they're backstage and like at rehearsal, like you can tell he's more muted. Like yeah you know that there is a character that he puts on and like that, I'm just looking up daredevils and it's not coming up weirdly. Yeah.
00:01:54
Speaker
Did you put the exclamation point at the end? That might be why. This is what happens when I try to multitask while talking. and It's very hard to be fair. yeah um Jeff Fahey.
Discussing Jeff Fahey's Roles
00:02:08
Speaker
What else is he in? Oh, he was in Lost. Oh, I never watched Lost, but I heard it was very good. And Wyatt Earp and the Lawnmower Man. ah Fire Country.
00:02:19
Speaker
That's like on now, I think. Oh, okay. Okay. So he's around doing stuff. i If this is any indication of like how awesome of an actor he is, I get why he's around. Yeah. Because fantastic in this. He really is. Yeah.
Dutch the Clutch's Character Depth
00:02:39
Speaker
Yeah. He's just really fun. Like he, he goes from being sort of like a caricature of like sort of a, redneck kind of guy and then like more subdued and stuff and just had like a lot of different gears um yeah yeah great yeah he's so good and I love like you know kudos to the writers I love all of the little like funny kind of quippy jokes they give him that he says before the true story
00:03:10
Speaker
I know they're just bananas yeah they are but they're they're so bananas But because he's so bananas and he's a daredevil, you're like, i do not doubt for one second that that was a true story. Yeah.
00:03:22
Speaker
And I love, like, everybody around him just left kind of blinking, like, what happened? I love like at the in the beginning after they've seen the show they've now got like brought quote unquote brought in backstage by Lewis they're like you know at that bar or whatever drinking and he just gets up on the edge and he's like who's gonna pay me a job who's gonna show me and everyone's just like damn it throw money at him I'm like wow this is amazing like everyone totally buys into this guy get it yeah like the kind of
00:04:00
Speaker
posse that he's got around him um
00:04:05
Speaker
and like the character is so interesting because like even here we go again jumping to the very end that's okay like the way sean sounds like i thought you were the kid with you know squirting milk out of his eye but you actually are like family is the most important thing to you and stuff like um like we really see that like how he thrives in that this community that he has around him and showing off for them and stuff but it's still like the people around him are like the important part and like he enjoys it because they're all there kind of which you know Sean says they're cut from the same cloth and there is absolutely that kinship of like yes Sean is
00:04:56
Speaker
Big, like everything he does a lot of times is just like yeah the showboating and stuff and everything is like that.
Sean's Admiration for Dutch
00:05:02
Speaker
But it's like Gus has to be there always. Yes. Jules and Lassie are part of the team. Like, yes, like it really there really is a parallel there.
00:05:11
Speaker
Yeah, definitely. Well, and I think think you get that in the episode. partly just from how like in awe you can tell Sean is for a large majority of the time. Like he'll just be like, um yeah I'm smiling, smiling with big eyes.
00:05:27
Speaker
Whenever Dutch goes to do something crazy or when, you know, they're called along to come with. It's because Sean, yeah, if anything, i would say Dutch is probably the most extreme character outside of Sean that we've seen so far.
00:05:40
Speaker
So Sean now is like, yeah have someone to look up to. i have someone to be more crazy like. Yeah. And knowing that, like, you know, this is someone Sean remembers from yes being a kid, ah presumably. He's like, Dutch the Clutch? Like, you don't remember? Like, this is this is a formative figure for him.
00:05:59
Speaker
Yeah. um So... Yeah, we I love, like, it we could talk about the flashback, but, like, we see kind of, like you say, like, we see, like, little Sean in him. Because he's just, like, a kid in candy store being a part of this world. Yeah.
00:06:16
Speaker
And I wonder, it's kind of interesting that Gus doesn't remember Dutch the Clutch, but Sean does. So I wonder if Dutch wasn't necessarily and someone on TV, but maybe he just was doing these like traveling shows and maybe Henry took Sean to go see a traveling show or maybe, you know, his uncle, his uncle seems like someone take him to traveling. Totally.
00:06:39
Speaker
and maybe like us just wasn't with them that time. But now. makes like the most sense. Because even in the flashback, like, you know, Sean is attempting this jump. So clearly he has gotten this from somewhere. you know Right.
00:06:59
Speaker
daredevil which like i'm trying to think like pop culturally like evil knievel i feel like yeah evil can be was like the but i don't even know where where i knew like how did i even know you know like i don't think i ever saw anything yeah do they do that stuff on tv um i don't i mean i feel like they must i don't know if evil can evil is like uh still practicing now i bet not um i could not tell you a thing about him other than his name evil knievel american stunt performer and entertainer
00:07:35
Speaker
oh yeah he died in 2007 um oh wow so maybe like right around oh yeah right around this time right before maybe Oh my gosh. Okay, he's totally based off of Evil Knievel because i need to just send you this picture.
00:07:54
Speaker
going to just show it to you. Boom. Wow. Literally, that is the suit. Yeah. That Dutch wears very stylish flancy that we're looking at. Just colors swapped.
00:08:08
Speaker
So yeah, he's definitely the blueprint for that. But ah yeah i don't really know if there are many stunt men anymore. Yeah. I mean, they did have that joke about like, and he jumps Springfield Gorge.
00:08:19
Speaker
Yes. So I guess like probably references to it in other movies is like where we kind of have this thing. But I could totally see if it if it is a sort of like county fair tour kind of thing. Like I could totally see his uncle taking him and Henry maybe not even knowing and getting mad. like a being a whole thing Oh my God. Yeah. His uncle being like, just don't tell your father. Yes.
00:08:40
Speaker
Exactly. Do this fun thing, but your dad can't know. would be like Absolutely. Let's go. Yeah. And I could see that even being just like right before the flashback, you know? Oh, totally. Like the weekend before and then he comes home and he's like, I'm going jump over a child.
00:08:57
Speaker
going to jump over a child. And also Gus wasn't there, right? you don't remember Gus because Gus would have never, eight never let this happen, but B, never let that child stand that close to the ramp because the physics don't make sense.
00:09:12
Speaker
Yeah. So true. gotta wonder about this kid.
Exploring Sean's Family Dynamics
00:09:15
Speaker
Because yeah, he's like, I did the math.
00:09:19
Speaker
Why are you still standing there then? wonder if like, the I'm curious if the flashback was like written for that to be Gus. Oh. And like maybe the actor could wasn't available or something. Because it it does seem like that would be a Gus line.
00:09:36
Speaker
Yes. But I can also see it making sense that like, Just Gus not being around. And we also know later, like, Gus does not have a relationship with these this daredevil culture. He does not care about it. Yeah. Or have any interest. And I could see him, like, maybe Sean, like, doing it when they're not hanging out because he knows Gus is not interested. Yes.
00:09:59
Speaker
Gus would not approve. Yeah. Yeah. but yeah I could see him even at, like, eight years old being, like... Gus can't be here for this. Yeah, absolutely.
00:10:11
Speaker
so Yeah, so our our flashback is Sean trying to be a daredevil and trying to bike his way up a ramp and over a child that we've never met with a bunch of other you know, his age children around him cheering him on.
00:10:26
Speaker
Yes. And the big, you know, gag is that at the end, right before he is about to get on the ramp, Henry grabs him so that he doesn't smack this child in the face and possibly hurt him, you know.
00:10:39
Speaker
And Henry gets very, very mad at him. And Sean gets really mad. He does. That is like the most like, you know, like that actor and that like baby Sean is a pretty like even keel totally guy. Yeah. um And like, he's like, dad, you ruined everything. He's really upset.
00:11:00
Speaker
Yeah. ah Which I was like, whoa, like this is, kind of felt like, know, we've talked about like when we start to see Sean rebelling in his childhood and like break, like when he we started to see him like breaking from Henry a bit more. And I feel like this is maybe like the biggest one yet. um that Oh yeah. Yeah.
00:11:19
Speaker
um sort of diverging yes and getting mad at each other yeah what is interesting because think we still see little bits of this even in the present day as in 2008 or now guess we're 2009 that's kind of terrifying 2009
00:11:37
Speaker
two thousand and nine sean When like, if he starts trying to nutshell and someone jumps in on his nutshelling, he's like, can you let me do this, please? Like he he gets annoyed with them. Not quite in the same, we'll say childlike way that like a big emotion. Little Sean did here. Right.
00:11:55
Speaker
But yeah, he definitely likes the attention and he wants the attention and the attempt to take the attention away from him does not end well. Yeah. Even though Henry was like, I think it was pretty clear that Henry was trying to be like, I'm keeping you and this other human from getting hurt.
00:12:13
Speaker
but Yeah. Which, you know, as a kid, it's like, who cares? You know, that means nothing. The theme is more important. I do love that character, like, backed out. Just that moment of like, you're just the kid Like, you're no better than the kid squirting milk out of his eye. And Sean's like, do you think I can be as popular as him?
00:12:37
Speaker
Like, he just wants to be cool. yeah yeah wants people He just wants people to like him. Yes. And this has been a, you know, a thread for Which... which I wonder if people really don't like him or if that's just his perception of the situation. you know what i mean Because to be like, you think I can be as cool as him? like that and To me, I feel like that implies that he's not cool or he doesn't have friends or he doesn't fit in. Maybe he does to a degree.
00:13:10
Speaker
But again, how much of that is perception? How much of that is is reality? Yeah. Well, and it might not even be like that. you know, he's probably just like somebody, you know, like, yeah, he gets along. Like he may not be like a total outcast, but it's like, he's not famous. Like they don't worship him. They don't like want to be him.
00:13:33
Speaker
i see. Yes. And like, and maybe he sees,
00:13:38
Speaker
um like this other kid and like he makes everybody laugh probably and like everybody pays attention and like that could be super um intriguing for a young Sean and he may not like you know I feel like that's something that you kind of grow into like what kind of attention is valuable and like you know obviously he has his best friend in the world he has gus and he may learn in you know 20 years that he doesn't really need anybody else but like right he really craves attention yeah yeah well i mean i think what you just said is paralleled perfectly in the episode at the very end where he says to dutch
00:14:30
Speaker
you're the guy, you're the guy squaring milk out of
Dutch's Realization of Family Value
00:14:33
Speaker
his eye. Like that's why he's been so enamored with him the whole time. And then he, you know, Sean's a little bit maybe disappointed.
00:14:42
Speaker
When he's like, you know, I don't i don't know. Are you that guy? Are you not? I'm not sure. Who are you? And then we kind of get a flip up when Dutch is like, you're wrong.
00:14:53
Speaker
I am the kid who squirted milk out of my eye. Goodbye. And he goes away. Yeah. But it's all like, I think in that moment, like, I feel like Sean has realized that.
00:15:07
Speaker
it's It's almost like we're seeing Kid Sean for, like, the whole buildup of the episode. And then it's, like, once he sees the life insurance policy and stuff and, like, it all comes together for him, it's, like, it's so much more real than Kid Sean could have ever... Right....comprehended.
00:15:25
Speaker
and And so it's, like...
00:15:30
Speaker
Even... And even for Dutch, like, like the way Sean says...
00:15:37
Speaker
well, okay, nobody knows that he has a will an insurance policy or anything. And, or Lewis doesn't know the son, Dutch's son. And Sean's like, well, Lewis didn't know he was dying. It's like, that changes what matters.
00:15:50
Speaker
And I feel like even for Sean in that moment, it's like, I thought you were just that guy. Like you just wanted all the laughs, all the like, but that love. And even like the way Lewis describes it earlier of like,
00:16:04
Speaker
the love, the attention. I forget. I wrote it down because I was like, shot um
00:16:11
Speaker
Oh, give up the spotlight, the applause, the love. like even with that guy yeah yeah yeah um And then Sean's like, no, but you were like, you're all about family. Like, cause even, I think even now, like Sean understands life a little bit more that it's like, not all about the attention.
00:16:30
Speaker
Yeah. Um, And then i think for Dutch, it's like, well, he can be both. And so is Sean. Right.
00:16:41
Speaker
Yeah.
00:16:45
Speaker
Yeah, it I do love the...
00:16:50
Speaker
I do love like the kind of family ties that we get throughout this without being immediately aware of them. Like, I i like that Louis our second daredevil. i like that, you know, at the end that allows Sean to be like, your son wants to be more like you than you even know yet.
00:17:06
Speaker
was like, God. one Or like this, you know, one of the assistants read, it's like probably or possibly not, you know, related to them by blood, but is doing all of this extra because he cares about him so much to sneak in meds so that his biological family doesn't know that he's actually hurt, you know?
00:17:28
Speaker
Yeah.
00:17:30
Speaker
Yeah. It really like is a community and they like, they, they are, they love, Dutch so much and and that's I feel like well that's kind of what like Sean has to show him that and not even show him but like make him acknowledge it yeah yeah yeah because he even says like if you ask them you know what they would say yeah Well, because it's what he would say about them,
Sean's Intervention in Dutch's Stunt
00:17:59
Speaker
right? Like if the situations were flipped, like he's doing all this because he loves his family so much and because he doesn't want them to be in a bad spot when he dies.
00:18:08
Speaker
But he he if he could, he'd probably want to spend more time with them too. So, you know, just a reminder. yeah I mean, this is like a dark It is. It's really sad.
00:18:21
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. Like, if you really think about Dutch's headspace throughout this, like, before every stunt that he does, yeah he is planning on dying.
00:18:31
Speaker
know. Like, that is heavy stuff. Yeah. And he keeps surviving, much to his sugary. I was going to say, imagine, like, the... the internal like somersaults his body must be doing to think he's going to die and then he makes his way through it and then he's got to plan the next one and then again he thinks he's going to die and then he makes his way through it and then there's probably this like guilt of making it through again but then he's got to plan the next you know that's Yeah.
00:19:00
Speaker
And not let his family know. Yeah. In that last scene, like again, the way ah Sean is like, I know you don't have anything planned for a while. So I have a feeling whatever you're going to do tonight is foolproof.
00:19:13
Speaker
Like, yeah I know that is so heavy. and like, I love like the little moments, like when, um, Sean stops him from jumping. Yeah.
00:19:25
Speaker
um And they have this moment where Sean's like, tells him to lift his arms like he would to jump and he does it and it rips and everybody's like, and, and like you watch Dutch and know like knowing like we know because we've seen him a bunch of times that he knows that he did this on purpose.
00:19:46
Speaker
Yep. It's like, again, but ah performance i know is incredible, but it's also like but the construction of this narrative. Yes. Like this whole setup is just brilliant.
00:20:02
Speaker
Yeah. And again, we kind of talked about this at the end of last episode, but so different than what we're used to seeing up until now with Psych, where we always have a ah big bad at the end.
00:20:16
Speaker
And yeah we get to figure out the reasons why. And and you know we figure out the reasons why this time, but he's really not a big bad.
00:20:27
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. It's such a great way to have sort of a a twist in like in such an unexpected way because you know we could have a twist where just somebody you're not thinking about but it's not even that it's just that he has like these sort of noble This noble desire to take care of his family.
00:20:57
Speaker
Knowing that he, like, money is tight and he is wash like washed up, basically, and he can't really do anything else for them. Yeah. It's really quite sad.
00:21:08
Speaker
Yeah. poor Dutch. Yeah. And like imagine how he's feeling too coming down that big tunnel right before the end.
00:21:19
Speaker
Sees this guy who's been nothing but like a pain in the butt. It's such a powerful scene. I can't believe it. I know. No, it's really quite – it's so good.
00:21:31
Speaker
And when he, like, puts on the helmet and Sean keeps talking to him he's, like, saying all that stuff and then he, like, flips it up and you can tell he's, like, teary-eyed, but he hasn't cried yet.
00:21:42
Speaker
And then he's, like, you know smacks the macks the helmet twice and he puts it down he just drives off and you're, like – And sean sean Sean is like, what's going to happen? I don't know. I tried my best. James Roderick is also you know Emmy award winning. Should be Emmy award winning performance.
00:22:04
Speaker
you know He delivers that whole dramatic like speech about, you know. his family and what they actually want and stuff. And then, yeah, as he drives away, like the way he brings his hand to his head, like you can just feel the anxiety because he does not know what Dutch is going to choose.
00:22:22
Speaker
And like, I mean, the weight... talking about Like a heavy story. And then the weight that Sean must carry, like he promises he is not going to say anything.
00:22:33
Speaker
well And it's crazy to think had he gone through with it, there would have probably been an investigation. yeah i mean, i don't, or maybe that, maybe not, maybe it would seem like an accident. I don't know, but I mean, wow. And Sean is just like knowing that he is Whatever happens, if he chooses to go through with it, he he's going to carry that with him forever.
00:22:59
Speaker
Yeah. And I am obsessed with the way we experience that final. Yes. Stunt. Agreed. That we just watch Sean and we just hear it Yes. Agreed.
00:23:11
Speaker
oh Yeah, it's so good. And to see like the, not even relief, really, because there's not even really relief on Sean's face, but just like a, okay, I did something right.
00:23:23
Speaker
Kind of a feeling, you know? Well, and that says so much about, you know, speaking of Sean and sort of these two parts of him, the kid with the milk coming out of his eye and like the, you know, the grown,
00:23:40
Speaker
man who is dealing with real life things and has real relationships and stuff. but Like the way that Dutch is both of those, like, so is Sean. And it's like, he yeah, you're right. Like how that must feel to be actively making a difference.
00:23:58
Speaker
Yeah. Oh my gosh. For people. and Yeah. And to have saved someone. Right. Right. Because usually they're just figuring out how someone was killed, but not actually saving them. Now he was actually able to save someone.
00:24:10
Speaker
Yeah. And like, we know how much he cares. We've observed that he cares about the mystery and stuff, but this is kind of the, you know, one of the, um I'm like,
00:24:23
Speaker
thinking back, but I feel like it's one of like the first of like some real and like emotional resonance of oh him grappling with like, you know, he's part of that world now. He's met all these people. He knows what that impact is going to be. Yeah.
00:24:40
Speaker
And yeah, it's just. Yeah. and And again, to promise that he's not going to say anything. That's tough. I mean, even now I wonder like,
00:24:52
Speaker
Did he say anything? Did he mention to Gus, like, this is what's been happening? That's a great question. i mean, I guess maybe Dutch would have had to come clean.
00:25:05
Speaker
Right. Like, maybe Sean allows Dutch to tell his family he doesn't just go out and be like, by the way, your father has pancreatic cancer. like Yeah. And in coming clean, like, it may have become apparent that Dutch o was trying to kill himself, which...
00:25:21
Speaker
I know. Like, that would be so, so intense for his family to even, like, know any of that thing. Yeah.
00:25:33
Speaker
but Yeah. Again, ah very... Heavy topic. The show deals with some of the heaviest things. Murder. And I was thinking coming into this, like, i don't know what, but like what prompted the thought, but I had the thought of this is a filler episode.
00:25:53
Speaker
Hmm. Because. It is. yeah Like there's no, you know, there's no progress with Abigail or Sean's mom or anything in terms of like our serialized plot.
00:26:04
Speaker
Yeah. You know, they've got a case. Sean and Jules have a goofy sitcom plot going on. Not Sean and Jules. Sorry. Lassie and Jules. No, I just realized. Henry's not in this episode at all.
00:26:15
Speaker
Oh yeah, good point. Neither is Vic. That's so wild because the, show oh no, Vic is. Because Vic orders, Jules orders. Oh, true. Jules is saying orders, but like, was she did not really order her. Not really. In the beginning, Jules didn't even realize what she said, but then she's like, oh, I've been ordered to get past you a girlfriend. Yeah. And even Lassie and Jules, I feel like we we really don't see them that much.
00:26:41
Speaker
Yeah. So maybe that's part of very the fillery feeling. It's like it's not yeah really the whole gang. And I say that with the utmost respect for a filler episode. And I feel like this is such a great example of how.
00:26:56
Speaker
like effective they can be in terms of like a story. And like, we still have all of our themes, you know, we've got a lot of daddy issues playing out.
00:27:09
Speaker
Yes. In our, in our, you know, our case people. And then also, you know, Sean gets to kind of parallel that. um And, you know, we've got these like very character-y moments, but ultimately,
00:27:25
Speaker
It's just another case. Right. On both ends. And we, because we're also seeing Jules and Lassie just kind of do. Right. They're, they're running the mill yeah and work.
00:27:36
Speaker
Yeah, it's true. Cause they're not really, they're not really on a, they are. They're staking out. They're staking something out. Yeah. But it's not, we're not like following them through the whole thing into the resolution of it. It's just. Yeah.
00:27:48
Speaker
Yeah. Day in, day out kind of stuff.
00:27:52
Speaker
But I think that's nice, too, as we've discussed the importance of meandering. Exactly.
Appreciation for Character-Driven Stories
00:27:59
Speaker
Life does not, you know, each week of life is not necessarily a huge step towards the next milestone. Sometimes it sometimes it is just, you know, pandering through. hu And that's okay.
00:28:13
Speaker
Yeah. Not everything is a plot point. Correct.
00:28:19
Speaker
Okay. Well... So yeah, I guess so flashback and that's really the only time you see Henry. I also love the lesson that Henry is trying to teach him being that or it's just like an interesting lesson that that the people there watching him and interested in this kind of event want to watch you fail.
00:28:45
Speaker
Right. Yeah. um Which is kind of that like that idea i feel like for a lot of kids and like maybe teens who do struggle there's the idea of like positive versus negative attention and it's like we all just want attention h and so if you're not getting it maybe you try to get it in ways that aren't yeah like healthy for you or good for you um and I feel like that's kind of what Henry is getting at here
00:29:21
Speaker
And there is that other line later with Louis, I think, where he says, think when they're trying to ask if anybody had it out for Dutch, and I think Louis says, like, just everybody who's watching. Yes. yeah know Literally everybody wants to see him get hurt. Yeah.
00:29:40
Speaker
Yeah. i Yeah, that's a good... It's an interesting thing to think about that one would go to a daredevil show, which is all about theoretically this ability to do seemingly impossible things and not actually want to see someone do an impossible thing to actually see someone fail at doing that impossible thing. yeah and And I do ask for like, say that I do feel like that's not true. Like, and I think we see that in the moment where it I mean, I guess just before that, where Dutch catches fire and looks like yeah maybe he's okay. And like the silence, I feel like they film that really well, like the silence in that arena. Like you feel like you're in the arena.
00:30:16
Speaker
And there's a hush. Yeah. And the medic. And and it feels like really scary. And I don't think any person in that arena was like, yes. yeah He got hurt.
00:30:29
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. Maybe it's less of the like desire to see him get hurt, but more of the desire to see him get through whatever it is that happens. Yeah. Yeah. And the chance that he might get hurt.
00:30:41
Speaker
Right. makes it thrilling of course but yeah it's like you don't actually want to see him get hurt i'm sure had sean ran in to that kid and oh yeah and like had they both hurt themselves i don't think any of those kids would have been happy to see that i would hope not i would hope not kids are strange monsters children are ruthless but yeah i don't think i think they'd be like thrilled
00:31:06
Speaker
Yeah, let's let's hope not. um So, yeah, the episode really starts off with us going to what seems kind of like carnival-esque, you know, big top show like inside of a big tent.
Sean and Gus's Detective Work
00:31:26
Speaker
They've got churros and some other tasty snacks. with them and of course we must make a bunch of quippy comments as as we're there and they are shocked or Sean is shocked at least to see Dutch the Clutch because he was on That's Incredible when we were kids don't you remember Dutch the Clutch? I guess he was on TV is that a real thing? let's look it up oh I don't know that's incredible oh American reality show 1980 oh hey makes sense
00:31:59
Speaker
oh hey that makes sense
00:32:02
Speaker
I guess maybe this would be like watching, you know, like fail videos or something like people. want Yes. That makes sense. or the And a lot of fail videos, they do get hurt.
00:32:16
Speaker
That's true. I'm thinking America's Funniest Home Videos, which is like all about people getting hurt. Yeah, true. And yeah, while they're there, of course, Dutch is a darev So he's doing some crazy stunts. He's like riding his bike through a ring of fire.
00:32:32
Speaker
And as Dutch goes to do the crazy stunt, Sean clocks that there's a leak in the fuel line. And so when Dutch goes through the ring of fire, he also gets set on fire and falls off his bike and rolls down the ramp. and it's this whole big thing. And as Kylie said, there was a hush in the crowd.
00:32:50
Speaker
And sean and Gus are shocked that he has gotten hurt or seemingly getting hurt. And thankfully Dutch is okay. And everyone's like, what? And Gus is like, that was insane. Sean goes, no, that was attempted murder.
00:33:09
Speaker
So good. That's exactly how i wrote it in notes. Yeah.
00:33:16
Speaker
um So good. So, of course, because Sean now realizes that this is a attempted murder, he has to finagle his way in there. He can't let it go. Yeah. And I love, I mean, really is like an act of service. I don't know. Like, Sean does not have to do anything, you know?
00:33:34
Speaker
He has no one paying him yet. Yeah. And it it doesn't seem like they're gonna either. That's true. And even, like, when they're coming in, there the explanation of why they're there is because he took tickets and to this event as payment.
00:33:49
Speaker
I forgot about that. Or a case of finding somebody's teeth or something. and And he says, like, because Gus is, like, sticking out like a sore thumb. He does not want to be there. No, he does not.
00:34:01
Speaker
Which is funny because it really, you know, it feels like a white trashy kind of place. So I understand. Yeah, that's good. And ah Sean says, when your clients are carny folk,
00:34:15
Speaker
It was either this or like 10 rides on a rusty tilt-a-whirl or something like that. And it's like so cute. Like Sean is really in it for the love of the game. you know Totally. Yeah. Yeah.
00:34:28
Speaker
And I feel like, you know, knowing him and the kind of life he has led, I feel like being a fan of like a barter economy makes sense. yeah Yes, absolutely. Absolutely.
00:34:43
Speaker
I could see him, you know, being sort of a mutual aid kind of guy, you know, like I'll help you out. You pay it forward with tickets to whatever.
00:34:56
Speaker
Touch the clutch. It's better payment than any form of money. Yeah. So that was just really fun because I feel like it's a sort of a glimpse into one of their smaller cases that we don't get to see that evidently they've got work, you know,
00:35:13
Speaker
yeah just It is a private case for them. Yeah. I haven't seen too many of them yet. Yeah. yeah I mean, I don't know that we see another case like that until he has to like go get the Batman figurine and like season seven or whatever, like sneak into somebody's house.
00:35:31
Speaker
That little kid. Oh, no, no, no. Yeah. I know which, I know which one you're talking about. I'm trying to think if I can think of any others, like any side ones. Oh, what about, um, the werewolf one when's that one because isn't he like chain me down and tie me up with silver and that's a fun one but like just something so small of like i lost yeah yeah my teeth or whatever yeah why like i mean because you can't really make it a whole episode out of that no that's even the batman thing turns into a murder yeah um but it is just like you know there's no small pieces
00:36:10
Speaker
Only small detectives. Yes, indeed. But I love that for Sean. Yes. So such he's he's a good egg, you know? Yes, he's a good egg.
00:36:22
Speaker
He just wants to help people. Mm hmm. Yeah, so they go they go to try and find Dutch. Dutch the clutch. And, you know, there's a bouncer, big muscly crew member who is standing behind and not letting people get in to go talk to Dutch.
00:36:41
Speaker
And Sean is like, there's a there's a bouncer here? He's like the state fair. He's like so confused. this is what we're here about. got a you We're here about Yippee.
00:36:56
Speaker
And Louis, who is Dutch's son, eventually sees them and and comes and talks to them. And when they get to talking, they explain to Louis that they believe that Dutch is being ah someone is trying to hurt him.
00:37:13
Speaker
and Dutch and clutch Dutch the clutch who but and Louis whatever anyone him ah and Louis is like yeah it's a couple of kind of weird things have been happening like maybe you can sniff around but my dad like really particular about who's around him so can't talk to him about psychics or anything we later find out that he's like apparently very religious so maybe even just the idea of psychics would have not fared well with him i feel like um I also feel like that that kind of speaks to sort of how seriously he does take his like his crew. Yeah.
00:37:52
Speaker
Like he doesn't want just anybody. Yeah, of course. He has to trust. I mean, i get that. They're like a family. Yeah. so well And is at the end of the day, it is his life on the line. You know, if something did go wrong, not at his hand, someone else is to blame for that, you know, and...
00:38:10
Speaker
Hopefully. That's true. you would You would have to be, really trust the people around you. Yeah. Well, and it seems like, i mean, we really only meet a couple of people, but it seems like everyone is longstanding or family or like very close friends um that are a part of this crew. So yeah, it's kind of interesting that they were so easily just like, oh, hey, two new stunt guys. Great.
00:38:32
Speaker
I guess Louis. I know. And the weight is like... already? Like it seems like maybe yeah that day or something. Yeah. After the last two? Yeah, that was funny.
00:38:46
Speaker
What a job. What a job. I could not ever.
00:38:53
Speaker
It is a fun way in terms of just like devices. like um yeah Like for them to be sort of undercover as this. It's like a way to make them daredevils. yeah yeah Even like Because it makes sense that there wouldn't really be enough. Like they wouldn't just go undercover as a daredevil. Right.
00:39:10
Speaker
Right. They got to be in the crew. So yeah, it is. What I just love. i just find the whole thing so fun. Because at the end of the day, we we know that they're like kind of scaredy cats.
00:39:22
Speaker
like Yeah, right. should They're all talk. Well, Sean is all talk. Gus wants nothing to do with it. That's true. Like when they get in those like flame retardant suits and they stand in the kiddie pool.
00:39:34
Speaker
And the flamethrower goes on and they're ah! In the background. cha fell I love later when they're like, we're not actually daredevils. And Dutch is like, well, that explains all the screaming.
00:39:50
Speaker
Yeah. I know. You would think he Dutch would have, from the start, been like, why are you yelling? Like, just calm down. Are you okay? Like, what happened? All right. Yeah. Yeah, he might have been a little skeptical. Yeah.
00:40:03
Speaker
I wonder if it's a situation where like he trusts, like again with the trust, like he trusts his son so much that if his son is vouching for him, he's like, he'll let it slide for little while. I could buy that.
00:40:15
Speaker
i think that would make sense. Yeah.
00:40:19
Speaker
yeah And he seems to find them amusing, if anything, like, cause you know, they're, them they're quippy selves. That's true. Right from the start. He's kind of like, I like you. you maybe he's like, we'll keep them around. We'll see how they do.
00:40:32
Speaker
Just looking at some of the lines I have written down, I think this is how he introduces himself to the bouncer guy, but denture wearer, strawberry crepe enthusiast.
00:40:45
Speaker
Yeah.
00:40:48
Speaker
no There were... Honestly, there were too many good lines this episode. I couldn't ah so write all of them down. That's how they were. One of my favorite little parts in this scene.
00:41:00
Speaker
i think it's like as they were walking in and like Gus didn't want to do it. So Gus goes, I will punch you in the knee. And he goes, go ahead. And punch each other. I'm like, what the heck?
00:41:11
Speaker
This is wrong with you guys. It's such a like... They really are children. Punch you in the knee. Yeah. Of all places.
00:41:22
Speaker
The knee? Ouch. Oh, yeah. Then I guess we go to join Lassie and Jules. See what they're up to. separate journey.
00:41:34
Speaker
their separate journey And I did feel of all the everything going on, this felt the most like part of the thread that we're with because Lassie Lassie is really on the market.
Lassie and Jules's Friendship
00:41:47
Speaker
Yeah. In the last episode, we saw him on a date with Mindy. Yes, the banana. bitchiest banana world's bitchiest banana and then so we know he went on another date and jules asked how it went and it went she's the woman's neck out the bathroom window because he and i love i also love that this really shows jules and lassie are proper yeah friends now yeah like jules
00:42:16
Speaker
The way she knows kind of all his moves. i It's so good. It's so good. You told her about the dead clown, didn't you? Well, and that she clearly has been in the past, like, don't don't say the dead clown story.
00:42:29
Speaker
Like, cut it out. Don't do it. Women are going. Yeah, they've had this conversation before. It's starting to feel like like Sean and Gus, you know? Like, we're seeing them, like, rehash things that they've been rehashing for 20 years. and yeah yeah And now, like, Jules and Lafie are starting to have, I mean, obviously not that long of a history, but they have a kind of shorthand together, which is really fun.
00:42:50
Speaker
Yes. Yeah, and it's sweet to see, it's sweet to continue to see Jules care so much about, like genuinely care about Lassie, and the fact that Lasseter is now kind of willing to take it to, like at the end of it, when he goes, thank you for your concern, I'm fine.
00:43:11
Speaker
Yeah. You're right, that's really sweet. Yeah. And at the end, I mean, he seemingly is willing began to go on this date with Jules's friend, you know.
00:43:25
Speaker
um And I do feel like, too, kind of with this story, we're also seeing Jules like a bit more settled. Oh, yes. She has a friend. She has a friend. Yeah. I wrote that down.
00:43:37
Speaker
Jules has a friend.
00:43:40
Speaker
Yay! We love those having friends. Yeah, because we left her last year, last season. She was craving connection. So not only does she have a friend outside of work,
00:43:54
Speaker
she is tighter with lassie you know she still has a good rapport with vic she's even like chatting with buzz like she just i feel like she feels and then sean and gus come in and talk to her and they like you know banter a little bit and it's like she feels a lot more settled yes than just where we left her yes season two which is lovely to see yeah it is nice to see especially because Jules is just like such a such a nice sweet person like she really just wants what's best for everybody you know so it's nice to see her feeling more comfortable
00:44:37
Speaker
Yeah. It's also impressive that they're able to like convey all of that without it really being a Jules story at all or Jules episode. I mean, even from like the last episode, you know, she went to the reunion and stuff and she had her dress. Like even then, you know, she stayed, she hung out, she had fun with them and it wasn't like her story or anything.
00:45:00
Speaker
Like it's, it's impressive that I feel like we talked about last season how her arc is kind of subtle. Like the most pronounced episode about it is with, well, Pascaretti.
00:45:18
Speaker
but And other than that, it's it's not really in your face at all. And I feel like it continues to not be, but we like, if you really are looking like you can see how she really is more, yeah more settled into her new life here.
00:45:34
Speaker
Yeah.
00:45:39
Speaker
Oh, I'm happy for Jules having friends. Yeah. It kind of makes sense. I mean, have to, we'll see where she goes from here, but like, it makes sense that by the end of this season, if, if she is finally like settling into Santa Barbara, it makes sense that by the end of this year, she'll be like maybe ready to like take a step with Sean.
00:45:56
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. Like maybe it's like she needed things to kind of. Right. Yeah, she needed to feel a little bit more solid on her feet. Yeah. Before she introduced something as big as possible relationship with Sean. Love of her life. Oh my gosh.
00:46:15
Speaker
So, yeah, then we we jump back to to Dutch. And this is when we're like at the restaurant meeting Dutch really for the first time. And I put down a note specifically that Sean and Gus do not drink the beer.
00:46:31
Speaker
They walk into the bar. They're both given beer and they both just are like, nope, I'm good. That is really interesting. And then they drink like iced tea later in the episode, like like ice tea. Yeah, this is really, feel like one of the few shows like maybe I have ever seen where the main characters really do not drink.
00:46:52
Speaker
I know, it's so interesting. And I don't know if that's like a...
00:46:58
Speaker
Like a ah way for them to maybe subtly hint at the more like childlike nature of them. Or I could even just see like Sean and Gus love sugary things. Like maybe they just don't like the taste of alcohol. Like I could see that too.
00:47:10
Speaker
um They have a great time without it, you know? Yeah. But it is, it's interesting because now that I've been paying more attention with us doing this project, I've noticed it much more and it's really interesting.
00:47:23
Speaker
It's interesting because, yeah, it does stand out. Like, i feel as if the norm is more seeing people drinking, seeing adults drinking TV shows. Yeah.
00:47:34
Speaker
Yeah. And, like, you know, if they're not, there's usually, like, a story there. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, yeah. no It just seems like yeah Sean and Gus just really like, yeah, they just don't.
00:47:47
Speaker
Yeah. It's not really how they decompress or anything. And I mean in this moment, like maybe they have sort of an idea of like being on the job, but like they're not drinking either when they're just watching. Yeah.
00:47:58
Speaker
They're eating their churros or whatever. Yeah. Yeah. and I wonder they're so bad. Oh, we should. help That would have been sort of involved, but maybe for the after show we can make sure.
00:48:10
Speaker
and we got over I'm to start making notes because we said a pancake. That's a good call because we do always end forgetting. Yeah, and we'll have to like decide which one we're going to do.
00:48:25
Speaker
Okay. I have a note from last time. Okay. After show three.
00:48:37
Speaker
pancake manhole hugger or and or churro okay very good table that or churro the length
Snack Culture in the Show
00:48:49
Speaker
of a manhole oh the diameter right the diameter diameter of a manhole yeah but true that would be impossible to make. it How would we even, you know, ra yes just half.
00:49:05
Speaker
I know. I'm thinking we need a lot of oil. so Yeah. I did buy a deep fryer. Ooh. Like I think it was around the Super Bowl because I got it in my head. I was going to make all this stuff and then I didn't end up using it. still haven't used it Well, this would be a great time to use it. Okay.
00:49:22
Speaker
we will do that so Kylie gets to use her deep fryer. we could do churro flavored pancakes oh flavored churros we'll ponder okay yeah we'll we will also we could also maybe if we have like more things we want to make if we do some foundations in between we could have snacks as hard like we could keep it going i like this I like this idea.
00:49:51
Speaker
Snacks are always a good thing. Yeah. I mean, to be true to psych. Hello. One must have snacks. Yeah. One must. I know. we're And we've had so many like things now, either snacks or beverages, that when I am getting ready to come up here, I literally can't come up here without something anymore. like I can't come in to do this without something to drink or eat. I know, huh?
00:50:14
Speaker
Yeah. I feel that too. You know? Coffee. Coffee. Yeah, exactly. Whatever, you know, my Carlito Capacito. Yes. Oh, delish. I will have to make that again. Yeah, that's a very good observation.
00:50:30
Speaker
I'm trying to think if we see other characters. We've seen Lassie drunk. Yes. I feel like we see Henry with beers. We do. So it's not that it's just like they don't have it around. It's like it seemed it must be a conscious choice.
00:50:44
Speaker
Yeah. Sean and Gus. The Greekers. Yeah. And I think maybe I noticed it too in this scene because everybody else, like they're at a bar and everyone else has these like big, you know like tankards of beer. And Dutch even makes a comment and he's like, I've had a concussion since 1982.
00:51:06
Speaker
True story. Anybody else's beer tastes like metal. Yeah. Washing this thing around. Yeah. So for, yeah, everyone else to be like drinking and it's like kind of a part of this after party almost.
00:51:22
Speaker
And for the boys to just be hanging there, was like, oh, yeah, I guess they didn't. Yeah. Yeah. Another thing for us to keep an eye on. Yeah.
00:51:34
Speaker
The only time I think that really sticks out in my mind and where i really think they are drinking is when they're on a date with in the gabardine hightail episode oh yes well and the drinks i feel like are very like all very important like the type of drink that you order how you drink yeah mean in that episode yeah that would make sense being yeah i guess i feel like we've maybe had this exact conversation but maybe also in the um
00:52:09
Speaker
The bar after their softball game, we'll have to see what they're drinking there. yes, we did We did say this to you. Also, maybe the sort of hangover episode. I wonder we see them drinking pre-blackout.
00:52:28
Speaker
Yes. Oh, yeah, that would make sense. I mean, they they were drugged, I believe. but but Oh, yeah, yeah, I think you're right. Oh, Woody.
00:52:40
Speaker
I can't wait for Woody. I love Woody. I can't wait for him. I was looking up something, some episode for some reason, and it said, like, the first appearance of Woody.
Cultural References in Psyche
00:52:51
Speaker
Hold, please. Hold, please.
00:52:54
Speaker
One moment. I must find it. I was watching Jeopardy. As you know I do. I'm a big fan of Jeopardy.
00:53:07
Speaker
and You know, I watch it every night. If I'm at home with my parents, I play with them. It's like this whole thing. We keep score. Anyway, one night I'm watching and I literally have to pause the TV because I gasped so loud couldn't answer the question.
00:53:26
Speaker
So now I have to find it. i take I took a picture. oh here it is.
00:53:32
Speaker
It says Woody Strode. Okay. Okay. You'll have to read it to me because it's a little bit really on my end. is the title sergegen rutledge in a nineteen sixty western courtroom drama directed by this quintessential western amateur Woody Strode.
00:53:51
Speaker
So he was... It's a reference. Of course it is. I was like, are you kidding me? are you are you kidding Are you kidding me? Wow. It's a freaking reference.
00:54:03
Speaker
Everything's a freaking reference. Oh, it's a real person. Yes. American athlete, actor, and author. Huh.
00:54:13
Speaker
Isn't that wild? One of the first Black American players in the National Football League.
00:54:22
Speaker
Well, maybe before we meet Woody, we'll have to watch no his iconic roles. That's a great idea.
00:54:33
Speaker
Real Woody Strode. Yes. I'd be curious. Yeah. If they, again, kind of like with Scary Sherry, how we were like, is there like one, ah a favorite that they have? Yeah.
00:54:44
Speaker
Like, I wonder if there was, is like one movie that they felt like Oh, we want to use this guy. or Right. Well, when it's so interesting, Woody Strode, American actor athlete. When did he, Oh, 94. Okay.
00:55:00
Speaker
ok i was going to say, was this kind of like a,
00:55:04
Speaker
a like civil shepherd kind of a thing like they wanted him to play but he passed far before the show started he'd be pretty old yes um but it is interesting like if he's like kind of a western actor that's very in the wheelhouse of lassie oh very true
00:55:27
Speaker
He was nominated for a Golden Globe for Best Supporting Actor in Spartacus 1960. I was going to say, I've never seen that, but I feel like everyone always references it. Also, Holy Cheekbones.
00:55:38
Speaker
Yeah. He has amazing cheekbones.
00:55:43
Speaker
Wow. Wow, he's got a lot of stuff. Yeah, Woodrow Stode. Huh.
00:55:51
Speaker
Look at this. Hold on. We gotta, we gotta. I wonder if the psych wiki has anything about Why Woody is named? He shares his name with legendary athlete and actor Woodrow Wilson Woolvine Strode.
00:56:06
Speaker
There you go. Our psych Woody is Woodrow Juniper. oh go down of course he is Juniper. actually really like that. That's cute, Juniper.
00:56:18
Speaker
juneny Every time we find another one of these, I'm just like, how many things in this show are references? Is it really? As we on, does it just become everything? Because it kind of feels like that. And I'm all for it.
00:56:34
Speaker
I know. It is funny, like, because we've done so much work to understand more and we never, like, we'll never all. We'll never know enough. Yeah.
00:56:48
Speaker
I feel like we'll get pretty darn close. Like, I think it would be kind of interesting to, and this would be, a lot of work but i think it'd be really interesting to at the end of this whole project watch the series again i know right see if we pick up on anything new in like the beginnings you know just never stop i know just on repeat and it'll be like season three episode two part two yeah times two oh yeah we get the A reboot.
00:57:20
Speaker
A reboot of the rewatch. I love that. That would be so funny. That would be amazing. Decisic's 101. Rewatch reboot.
00:57:32
Speaker
Yes! Oh, I love that. I love that.
00:57:38
Speaker
Alright, where were we? Sorry for the tangent. um Yeah, where were we? Well... I don't know, but we talked, we went back, we were talking about, oh, because we talked about the hangover episode and Woody. Okay, got it. We were talking about the drinking. Okay, so we're back. We're at the scene um on the deck.
00:58:01
Speaker
We see you know Dutch continues to be there the kid with the milk screen out of Zion, jumps off the back of the deck and luckily ah lands in a pile of trash.
00:58:15
Speaker
back yeah do you think he clocked that beforehand or do you think he was just like I'm jumping off whatever happens I don't know that's a good question i mean I maybe he did because i don't know if his insurance policy if that would count as a stunt so oh I feel like it wouldn't have served him or his family if he died right there that's a very good point and Sean does mention later like how his instincts kick in and he survived, which it it makes sense that like, it maybe he's always, you know, kind of like how Sean is always seeing evidence, like Dutch is always seeing how he will survive something.
00:58:56
Speaker
yeah. yeah I kind of love that. That's so fun. Yeah. It is fun to see like, know, to really think about how people can be really good at completely different things, you know, like that is a skill that this person has.
00:59:12
Speaker
Absolutely. And not everybody can do that. And like, you might write them off, you know, like we have that moment where he says something ridiculous and just like, that's the worst English I've ever heard.
00:59:24
Speaker
So, you know, not great at grammar, but no great at this. Great at daredviling. Heck yeah. I think that might be really all we do with them. I think we might then actually just go back to Jules and Lassie.
00:59:36
Speaker
Yeah. Maybe we do. There is scene from The Office, but I don't know if we go to Jules and Lassie first.
00:59:46
Speaker
But my next note is when they're in the office and Gus is like on the phone with Louis and he's like, I love to, don't know, this was so funny to me, this delivery by Dulé, but he's like, thanks, Louis.
00:59:58
Speaker
That makes sense, I guess. And then he's like, apparently Dutch doesn't have a will because invincible people do not need one. Of course, yes. <unk>s not Which I just, and just knowing that Gus really does not get this scene at all. Just for me to be like, that makes sense, I guess.
01:00:16
Speaker
I don't know. It really made me laugh. But still we like to go along with it. like Yeah. I love this about Gus. Yeah. And Sean just being like, trust me and be cool. Like, it's okay. You know, all right.
01:00:29
Speaker
We're going fine.
01:00:32
Speaker
Yeah, and I guess, oh, and Sean's starting to like get his lead is El Diablo, which I think, that oh, they did learn about him. We didn't talk about that. But in the scene on the deck and stuff, they learn about El Diablo.
01:00:45
Speaker
Yes. Who is sort of an up and coming daredevil and kind of encroaching on Dutch's market a little bit. And Dutch doesn't like to hear about him.
01:00:58
Speaker
Fair enough. Yeah, everybody in the crew is like, you know Boo el diablo. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, i think, you know, my my question would be how how large really is the daredeviling space?
01:01:12
Speaker
You know, it's like a very niche, very niche thing to do. Like how much more? money is to be made. So I can imagine a new daredevil really is taking like livelihood away from Dutch in a way that maybe other careers wouldn't be. Yeah. That's, I mean, that is a good point. Knowing that Dutch has been along around for a long time and this is like a young kid that, that would be a risk.
01:01:37
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah, totally. The youth always. Gosh. Stealing. Those youths. But it doesn't even, like, laugh a little bit it reminds me kind of of uh chow the fashion company you know like it being like this big santa barbara thing and it's like is it just santa barbara like is dutch famous in santa barbara right or is it i mean i guess it's on tv but it i don't know it's always funny to me how big santa barbara yes themes in this show which it you know it's all part of the whole like
01:02:17
Speaker
tv construction it's the murder capital of the world yes everything that like everything comes through here american duos yes of course um
Sean's Skills and Memory
01:02:27
Speaker
but yeah yeah i bet like maybe in his heyday dutch was like traveling all around the country like making a lot of money and now maybe it's just not as lucrative for him. So maybe Santa Barbara is like the only place that really loves daredeviling.
01:02:44
Speaker
yeah Yeah. Or it could, I mean, maybe he was in the eighties, like on TV and stuff. And now he's kind of on the fairground circuit. Oh yes. would definitely be sort of a sub thing, but I could totally see it coming through the Santa Barbara fairgrounds or whatever.
01:03:00
Speaker
Yeah. Cause that's how i feel about like my personal fairgrounds. It's like, You know, it's it's sort of a a lesser tier. um terms It's the fair, know? Yeah.
01:03:11
Speaker
Everything and anything happens at the fair. Yeah. Come on. ah So, yeah. I mean, that's a good question. And then we – so what they're going to do, they're going to go talk to El Diablo or attempt – I forget how they enter this scene. That's something about, – It's like a car show, I think. Yeah, or like a motorcycle show.
01:03:31
Speaker
Yeah, or vintage. It's like vintage, yeah, something. Yeah. Yeah, they're showing – And he's going to be there, I guess. Correct. Yeah. um So, yeah they're going to go talk to him.
01:03:46
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And, yeah, this is kind of fun because
01:03:52
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maybe it was earlier where Sean says something about being a motorcycle guy also. Oh, yeah. And Gus is like, when's the last time you did a repair on your bike?
01:04:03
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Yeah. Yeah. it's Just adding a sticker count? and
01:04:11
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um No. So it's fun... That said, it's fun to see like motorcycle Sean. Yes. Really come out in a way we've maybe never seen.
01:04:21
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Completely. Except for maybe the the second episode, Spelling Bee. yeah He rides his bike gets run over or almost run over. Yeah.
01:04:33
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yes So they they go. Gus is told to don't be an old sponge with hair all over it. And we go and see a bunch of different bikes and cars and things.
01:04:45
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And they walk right up to El Diablo. They have like, no, they're not even trying to hide it. Just like, hi, we are psychic detectives. And this is my partner, Squirtz Macintosh.
01:04:56
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Yeah. Well, I they have no idea. Well, there's no reason for El Diablo to have any idea who they are. Correct. Correct. But he runs. Very International sign of guilt. Yes.
01:05:09
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I love that. I love that poll. I think that's so great because it's true. Like you run anywhere and everyone's like, you did it. And to catch them, because he not only does he run, he jumps on his bike and rides away, which, of course, is a very fast bike because he's a daredevil.
01:05:23
Speaker
They being Sean and Gus go and jump in a motorcycle and sidecar. Gus doesn't want No, but he can't leave Sean to his own devices. and I love that Sean's like, dude, you have no idea how to ride a motorcycle. Get in the sidecar. Yes. Which is like very cute because it's not often. We see Sean get to kind of be... That's true.
01:05:44
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I don't know. Like... the stern one the brains and the stern one yeah and like like but this again speaking of people's skill sets like this is part of what he is good at so yeah you get in the side part and then of course unfortunately they are not attached I love that bit that is just so funny Gus is like right and you know Gus is hunched over he's like ready to go he feel the wind in his face and then Sean drives off without him that's so good and of course we get a good chase scene
01:06:17
Speaker
Between our two motorcyclists. When we see Sean. Riding his bike. It seems very. you know they're not going like. Super fast. They're not like on a highway or anything. But it still very. Yeah it's like through a park.
01:06:29
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Yes. It still feels like pretty intense. You know there's people around. You're swerving around people. Like. it's a It's a big thing. And really the only reason that Sean even catches him is because El Diablo's bike kind of malfunctions.
01:06:44
Speaker
And he, you know, starts to sway a little bit. And that gives Sean the opportunity to get ahead of him and cut him off. And then El Diablo um rolls off of his bike. And we get to go see who it is.
01:06:56
Speaker
The mask is taken off. It's Louis!
01:07:03
Speaker
El Diablo's son. he Yes. And then Gus comes in on a tiny bike, which I freaking love. my god, it's so funny. Yeah, it's so funny that it's like commercial. then we come back and Gus is coming in. Puttering in.
01:07:19
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but Yeah, so good. And he's like, Lewis? Like, he's just as shocked. Yeah. As everybody else is. Yeah.
01:07:30
Speaker
I just have written down here, have no idea the context of it, but it says that the kind that loves bees in historical novels. Oh, yeah. What the context of that?
01:07:42
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Well, I saw the transcript. I know it's still in this scene because lo I have another Lewis quote after it. Okay. Well, now I have to mention some other lines. So when Gus, what this, I don't know if this is the actual script from the actual script, but it says Gus arrives on a tiny putt-putt motorcycle.
01:08:05
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And he says, Lewis, and then Sean is like, that is the sexiest thing I've ever seen. Yeah.
01:08:13
Speaker
Which is so funny because then we get it. We get another joke about like them going to the prom together that does not land at the end of this scene. do you remember? Yeah. Yeah. But like this one lands. i'm like That's so funny.
01:08:25
Speaker
I forgot about that. um gammie guss says you're guilty of attempted patricide and sean says and you tried to kill your dad
01:08:37
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and then louis says i never tried to kill anyone you really think i'd hire detectives if i wanted to bump off my own dad what kind of psychic are you and john says kind that loves bees and historical novels there you go makes sense so there you go yeah so fun see I love I love that um patricide kill your dad joke because it comes back to that whole thing that we talked about regarding sha Sean a while ago that he plays this like disarming dummy but in reality he has to actually know what Gus is saying in order to make the joke yeah like he knows that Gus is saying kill your dad but but he's just saying it not in Latin for the fun of it I love that
01:09:21
Speaker
so good because very silly yes silly man and then yeah so we basically get the whole daddy issues subplot yes where lewis wants to be like his father and his father forbade him from doing that because it's dangerous which like no doy um and lewis says do you know what it's like to have your father tell you not to follow in his footsteps?
01:09:51
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And Sean goes, I wish. i I do love this ah so sort of, I guess, parallel, but that is so opposite of what Sean just experienced. It's just like a fun, yeah.
01:10:10
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yeah like a fun little element to this story. Yeah. Well, cause cause it's the opposite of what Sean experienced, but in ways they are still experiencing similar things.
01:10:21
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Very true. Cause dad's still laying down the law. Right. Exactly. So that's, yeah, that is interesting that like the, a parent can like limit you either by wanting you to be something or wanting you to not be something.
01:10:42
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Yeah, really. I mean, Gus also kind of has that too. Yeah, yeah. Because they, I mean, his parents sort of behind his back, like his parents are funny because they aren't vocal really about what he should be doing, but they like do things or did things to prevent him from yuy from having certain futures, which is. Yeah.
01:11:09
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That is also a funny technique. Parents. there's There's a line in this song on an album I've been listening to recently, which is essentially like they didn't mean to, but they did. oh you They didn't mean to right you know not have Sean do whatever, whatever, or not allow Gus to do whatever, whatever, or not live up to the expectation that they had, but they did.
01:11:30
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you know yeah It's just one never knows being a parent, I suppose. Yeah. i mean, thinking about like Dutch and Louis, specifically like he wants to protect his son right done but it's a very dangerous line of work and yeah it is funny that like he would continue to do it but say like you don't get to because yes it's dangerous um but yeah that's like that's protection an attempt at protecting your kid and then with henry he's just like
01:12:02
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is obsessed with his line of work and you know really wants sean to to be the the same here's a thought i just had okay do we think henry wanted sean to go into policing because he was a police officer or do we think he wanted sean to go into policing because he thought that he meaning sean would be good at it like What do we think the motive is? Well, I think he made Sean good at it because he wanted him to... To go into it. To go into it, yeah.
01:12:36
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Okay. So he just like pushed too hard. Because, like I mean, it is funny that he was like training Sean.
01:12:47
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Right. such a young age. And that makes me wonder, though, like is this is this a skill that...
01:12:55
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Is this a skill that everyone can develop? Or is this something that like, because Sean's dad is a cop and his mom is an auditory, whatever, whatever, like able to do, but it's not like something you can just, do you know what I mean? Am i making any sense?
01:13:19
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Yeah, no, totally. I mean, I do think Sean has abilities that like, I don't know that. everybody could like teach themselves to have a photographic memory. I mean, know more about psychology and the brain and stuff.
01:13:33
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Is that a thing? I don't, I mean, I can't imagine that you, I feel like when people say I have a photographic memory, it's something you have, not something you like practice, but I don't know. Yeah. I mean, and even like photographic memory is kind of like a misnomer. We talk about like eidetic memories, but it's not necessarily like,
01:13:54
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photographic meaning like absolutely perfect recollection everything that's ever happened to you. I mean, theoretically, the long term memory is completely expansive. Like we don't actually know the limit to it. So I mean, like I guess I don't know enough about memory to as much as I know about it. I don't know enough to know if that would be the case. I know some things you can train like you can train the perfect ear.
01:14:21
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Like someone you can train yourself to know what like a middle C is.
01:14:28
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I mean, maybe it is from like him, like Sean being so young when, cause that's true. I mean, I guess we do see him learn it because he's tested constantly. Right. Right.
01:14:41
Speaker
So maybe there is like, you know, I mean, he's, he's smart. He might, that might naturally be, part of him, like the ability, like certain proclivities, that the right word? Or is that like taste?
01:14:59
Speaker
I think that's the right word. I know what you mean. Whatever. but like, um but yeah, I guess he is sort of trained to operate at a higher level than anyone else.
01:15:12
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And I guess if you, I mean, I guess like learning any skill, if you start really young and you practice lot, it will probably stay with you. That makes me wonder what Maddie's deal is. Did she work at it?
01:15:26
Speaker
Oh, intrigue. Is her dad like Henry? Is this all just daddy issues? Whoa. Whoa.
01:15:37
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who Could you imagine? That is really interesting. Hmm. Hmm. Shall ponder. Yeah. Oh, no. I mean, I would i had Googled eidetic memory. Oh, yes. And it's looking.
01:15:53
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huh and And there is a section, trained. oh okay. Mnemonists. Okay. Which suggests training.
01:16:06
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All right. And an example of extraordinary memory abilities being ascribed to eidetic memory comes from the popular interpretations of chess grandmasters.
01:16:18
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Okay. Individuals identified as having a condition known as hyperthymesia are able to remember very intricate details of their own personal lives, but the ability seems not to extend to other non-autobiographical information.
01:16:36
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So, this is interesting. I mean, I guess this is making it seem like it is a skill that you work on. Eidetic memory is typically found only in young children, as it is virtually non-existent in adults.
01:16:54
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Intrigue.
01:16:59
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Eidetic memory has been found in 2 to 10% of children aged 6 to 12. to twelve Huh. I feel like that's higher than I would have intuited. Yeah.
01:17:13
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It has been hypothesized that language acquisition and verbal skills allow older children to think more abstractly and thus rely less on visual memory systems. Ah, okay. So younger children must rely on visually visual memory systems in order to be able to get things done, essentially. Hence why they might be more eidetic.
01:17:36
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Sorry, I'm just like reading about this. No, it's okay.
01:17:40
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a few adults have had phenomenal memories, not necessarily of images, but their abilities are also unconnected with their intelligence levels and tend to be highly specialized.
01:17:53
Speaker
According to Herman Goldstein, the mathematician John Van Neumann was able to recall from memory every book he had ever read. Wow. That's really impressive.
01:18:05
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That is. It's funny because, um,
01:18:10
Speaker
I feel like that is such a TV trope. Like yeah you would think that like half the people in the world.
01:18:20
Speaker
yeah It's like, it's so common on television. I don't know. um and i And a lot of detective shows, I feel like there's always a character who's got this special skill, which kind of drives me crazy a little bit.
01:18:34
Speaker
um I feel like it works for Sean because
01:18:39
Speaker
The fact that he's not annoying about it, which isn't necessarily true. He is totally annoying about it. i But I guess not in a way that I find annoying. I don't know. I think for me, the in my mind, the reason that Sean can get away with it is there's a reason that he has this skill.
01:18:54
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It's not just a specialized, like, miraculous magic thing he has. He was trained to have it by his dad, and that is explicitly explained to us over and over and over again throughout the show.
01:19:05
Speaker
Like, yeah, it is it is kind of frustrating when... on a show someone has this skill that is almost like the the win all you know something happens that no one else is going to be able to figure out this case unless you have this special skill which you have yeah you know it's sort of like a like a chosen one trope too yes like oh they're just so special which is like sean feels very grounded even though he does have all this going on you're right like we see him learn it um
01:19:37
Speaker
So, yeah, that is but has really interesting. and And we see with Sean, too, there are instances in which he is not the only one who solves the case or solves the mystery or whatever it is.
01:19:52
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Actually, many instances in which that happens. doesn't happen or people solve the case alongside him. um Like I love when Henry and Sean are working together and Henry gets to stuff first because it just like knocks Sean down. And yeah. And he has those skills too, because he might worked at it too. Like he taught Sean based on how he trained himself.
01:20:11
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Yeah. And I guess also like when we see like Sean's running with Lindsay Lichen, you know, it's like, she has also developed those skills. Like they are looking for things.
01:20:24
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Right. about people to draw conclusions. And then I guess then it comes back to like the Sherlock Holmes thing. Like these people are just very observant and good at deductive reasoning.
01:20:35
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um So yeah, I guess I've kind of convinced myself now that he was taught to do it. Although I am curious about the Maddie of it all because that does suggest that maybe, maybe they have, maybe the way they're wired.
01:20:52
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made that training more effective. Yeah. I was going say, maybe he has like a good predisposition yeah to it. Yeah. I feel like that is the the word.
01:21:04
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The deeper in the show we get, like, just the more tangents. I know. The longer they get. ah Well, I feel like the more, the longer we go into this, the more in-depth knowledge of the show we have to reference. Like, we already have knowledge of the general outline of the show because we've seen it so much but as we talk about it now it's like we have you know five folders worth of things for each season yeah you know instead of just a couple of note cards so yeah there's there's always just more and more and more ah to talk about uh-huh yeah and now i'm thinking about like our memories and how i
01:21:48
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Because I do – sometimes I surprise myself with, like, the amount of detail with which I can remember TV shows, which is maybe not, you know, maybe not where I should be spending that mental energy, but it's all there. Why Why not?
01:22:02
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But that's also, like, what what does your brain deem important? Like, that's also – You know, you can remember details about probably your favorite shows because how many times have you watched them because they're comforting? like Yeah.
01:22:15
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There's reasons behind that. Like, I can almost recount the entire movie Ratatouille from beginning to end because it's a comfort movie. And I saw it so many times. Like, at its face, saying like, oh, I can recite this movie seems ridiculous. But then when you listen to, like, the rationale behind it, makes sense why your brain would hold on to something like that.
01:22:39
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Yeah. Yeah. And the human brain is like, has a great capacity for memorization. It was like when like books became a thing, people like mourned the loss of like recitation.
01:22:53
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but and so i was like at that, like when, stories were more oral, like maybe ah like probably a lot of people just like had them, you know, kind of just in their head.
01:23:06
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Yeah. i have to But that is a skill. or And also like navigation, like we all have like, you know, Google Maps or whatever. So we don't, you know, that part of our brain is weaker because we've outsourced that.
01:23:19
Speaker
Yeah. um So, yeah you know, I guess, yeah you know, we can all work on being a Sean. hmm. So he had quite the head start. Definitely. Yes. If we all had a parent like Henry, we'd all be like Sean. Yeah. And thankfully we don't. No offense, Henry, but.
01:23:38
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We love you, but you're tough sometimes, dude.
01:23:42
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ah All right. Where were we now at an hour and a half in? Oh my gosh. Okay. ah Okay. So the father, the footsteps. So,
01:23:55
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Yeah, I mean, so we we know who El Diablo is now. He's no longer really a suspect. They're kind of back to the drawing board. And I guess, oh yeah.
01:24:06
Speaker
So that then they have the idea that maybe be the agent right right is the one. Because
El Diablo's Investigation
01:24:11
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not to actually try to kill Dutch, but he we did hear him say earlier that people love the drama.
01:24:20
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Yes. People love the explosion that happened. So it like that suggests that maybe he would try to plot something like that for ratings. Right. Right. And so then we go to the station.
01:24:32
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Yes. And see Jules. And see Jules. And this is when we're talking about, like, telling them kind of about what we're doing and the whole daredevil casing. yeah And we also see Jules working on her ah um her orders to find Laxia a woman. So we see her.
01:24:53
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When Shana goes walking, she's just like... very awkwardly like stretching and staring at people like so unsubtle also as if she's gonna like find someone in the in the station but which i guess even though she has one friend like she doesn't maybe know a lot of people so oh that's fair yeah okay she's gotta look where she can yeah and i wonder if she's thinking too that like
01:25:22
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knowing Lassie, he's talking to dates about murdered clowns. Maybe somebody in law enforcement would better suited. Yeah, that's I feel like that's fair.
01:25:33
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Maybe, you know, i would start not in the same department because they... Someone who doesn't know him Yeah. That might fare better. yeah And ah yeah so then then we talk a little bit about the daredeviling and Jules is like, I don't understand it.
01:25:49
Speaker
This is such a funny like... It's almost like intermission or something. That is exactly what it feels like. And that's hysterical because literally after the end of this, I actually took an intermission.
01:26:03
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Like stopped, a paused for like a day and then came back, which is really funny. It's such a funny bit. Like it it feels like it would be... Like in real genius something. Like the kind of sense of humor. Like airplane. of Like like i don't get why people care about this.
01:26:19
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So we stop everything. Let's do it. And we. Well they have to prove a point. Yeah. It's just in a way of place it's just really funny. But yeah they end up trying to.
01:26:31
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Well first Gus jumps two chairs. Yep. Right in the middle of station. And everybody is like whoa. Yeah. And they just keep adding more chairs. And then we just, so we end up with this really long line and Buzz is going to take a turn.
01:26:48
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oh Buzzy. And he bites it. Bites it. yeah and Yeah, and then everyone else is just like, oh we're we they're done we're out now. It is like so, just like an odd little interlude.
01:27:03
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And then they're like... you get it now? And she's like, yeah, all right. Yeah, that's, yeah, her just like total acceptance of this. after It's also funny because like the only, they go to her to get some background on the agent and she knows him.
01:27:21
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She like knows the name and she's like, oh yeah, we we dealt with him a bit with a couple, like some get rich quick
Dutch's Daredevil Persona
01:27:27
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schemes. right And that's pretty much the extent of their need for her insight.
01:27:34
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And then it just becomes ah stopping everything to watch. You know, I feel like that tracks for them. Like that makes sense. They can't go anywhere without being kind of hooligans.
01:27:46
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Yeah. Yeah. I wonder where Vic was. Oh, that's a great question. and No, definitely out of the office. which one 100%. I feel like after the first two chairs, she would have been Duster, put the chairs back.
01:28:02
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Yes. What are you doing?
01:28:05
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um Oh, and then we had the flight suit scene. And I thought. When they're in the kiddie pool. oh my God. No. Are we already in the kitty? Wait.
01:28:17
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My next note is them doing the flight, like where he's going to jump off the building. Does that come later?
01:28:25
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Oh, yeah, a little bit later. Just a little bit. I didn't take any notes in between them. Yeah, so the boys go back to, I guess, like the stunt lot, the place where they practice all of the the different stunts that Dutch is going to do.
01:28:37
Speaker
And they're walking around just trying to, I guess, find somebody. And Dutch pulls in in his car. And they're going to talk to Dutch. And know all of a sudden, the car blows up out of nowhere. And they're like, oh, my God.
01:28:49
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Dutch comes out. He's on fire. He's like coughing up a lung. Yeah, and Sean says something like, well, this is just a rehearsal. So he should be safe for now. or i forget.
01:29:00
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ah why he said he's safe for now but it's like he should be safe for now and then but boom yeah yeah yeah this whole big thing and they're like scared like are you okay and of course dutch is like i've done that a thousand times like you have a really good dutch ah thank you thank you think yeah and he's fine he's like it's no no big deal so they go and they they get him get they get the boys and they go and they suit him up In a kiddie pool.
01:29:29
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Flame retardant suits apparently. They're told to put on some like flame retardant masks. And someone comes over and starts you know putting some substance on them.
01:29:40
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And Gus is like, is that gasoline? And then you get... i Flamethrower. And the boys just start screaming. Which is hysterical. And of course Dutch tells some ridiculous story.
01:29:56
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about something, I don't even remember what it was, and shouts, true story, at the end. And then they go to the, oh, I know how they get this clock tower. Manny comes driving in and he's like, Dutch, El Diablo just got ran over by a fan. And we're like, oh shit. have the connective tissue there. yeah So good.
01:30:18
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And he like broke his shoulder so he can't do this. Jump off of the nearby clock tower. And I got you for it. And he's like, right on Manny. Like he's so excited. And jumps in the car with him. Manny's like, it's happening right now.
01:30:32
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So you gotta go, right? They go to the tower, they're on the top and, you know, they're retrofitting Dutch with this flight suit ah of some sorts. And Manny goes and whispers something in his ear. There's this whole strange tangent about Dunkin' Donuts. Oh yeah, I wrote that down because i feel like we've talked about like the constraints of television stuff and like when they do things for this show, like they do it so well. And I feel like that was for sure placement. 100%. And it was so funny. It was so good.
01:31:02
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And it it is awkward.
01:31:07
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But it's like they're they're so weird anyway. It's kind of like whatever. and the Yes, that's exactly the thing. It was just so... It fits so well, literally until the moment that we saw the Dunkin' Donuts patch on the back of this guy's jacket. I didn't think anything of it.
01:31:23
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Well, it is funny because they also talk about things like that that are not product placement. Like the Red Robin bit. Right. but just the way It didn't sound like that was for anything. Like they just wrote about Red Robin. And Red Robin gets a mention here too. it's like my God.
01:31:39
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are like I don't think any that is actual like advertising, but this, yeah so like for them to do this, it's just like, Yeah, wouldn't even phase you. Yeah, totally. And also, even like the patch being in the air, it's like, they're a part of our world.
01:31:54
Speaker
Yes. There is Dunkin' Donuts. Yes, there is Dunkin' Donuts. So, yeah yeah, that was really funny. Yeah, it was great. I also really liked this scene.
01:32:07
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Like, it felt very Santa Barbara. Yeah. Like the the look of the building and stuff. Yeah, with the tiling. Yeah. There's like a really pretty building in down. Yeah, I think it's City Hall.
01:32:23
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And like, I feel like it really made it feel like that. If you Google Santa Barbara. Oh, no, it's a courthouse. They might have even said like, because i I caught clock tower, but they definitely said something else with it. So they might have said like the courthouse clock tower.
01:32:37
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Maybe. it i have um but yeah, it really like felt like that. So I thought that was fun. Yeah. Yeah. So they're about to, after our product placement of Duncan, Dutch is about to, you know, jump off the tower. He's got his flying squirrel suit going and he's standing on the edge and Sean clocks that the suit has essentially been stitched together with thread.
01:33:04
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So instead of... i don't know saying dutch don't jump ah he goes and grabs the man by the torso i guess it's a good thing he did because dutch wanted to die so that's true but i was like the i remember the first time watching this when they fall over the edge my heart like even this time i was like out of my child i didn't remember you know like oh yeah um As I'm bragging about how much I remember my TV shows, but I was like,
01:33:37
Speaker
Yeah, it's scary. And especially knowing that they're on top of likely one of the tallest buildings in Santa Barbara, to fall over the edge. Yeah, i mean, phew. Very scary, yeah.
01:33:48
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But thankfully, Dutch has managed to catch them because, again, his instinct's kicking in. So true. And they are just kind of hanging off the side of the building. And Gus is going to grab, give me arm, give your arm, you know, grab grab Sean. And everyone else is going to grab Dutch.
01:34:04
Speaker
And they get back on the top of the clock tower, safe from harm. When Sean reveals to Dutch that he had a feeling that he he needs to lift his arms. He's going have his psychic premonition or whatever he called it in that moment. Because everybody's pissed at Sean.
01:34:20
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Of course. Because Vicky is like, you almost killed my husband! She's just knocking him and everything. um So then he kind of has to come clean and tells Dutch that he needs to pull his arms up like he would in the stunt. And he does it and the whole thing rips apart.
01:34:36
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So he certainly would have... would have been injured at the very least doing the stunt. We then end up going back to essentially because his dressing room.
01:34:51
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It's like his trailer. trailer And everyone is now needing to discuss what has been happening. And this is when we find out that Dutch is not happy a psychic was involved.
01:35:07
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Yeah, I do love their first
01:35:12
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He's trying to get him to tell them what's going on. and And John's like, okay, we are not daredevils. And I think that's when that explains all the screaming. And then he's like, we are animal activists. We are here to stop you.
01:35:30
Speaker
but He points to like the rug or something. Using animals in your act. Dutch is like, I don't use animals in my act. And Sean's like, oh, okay. Okay.
01:35:44
Speaker
And I also love Gus just like nodding along as Sean does this. And it, yeah, it was, it was
Jules's Matchmaking Attempt
01:35:51
Speaker
really funny. And then Dutch is like, okay, the next thing better be the truth.
01:35:55
Speaker
Because he, weirdly didn't believe the animal activist excuse. ah Shocker. Yeah. So, ah yeah, they have to come clean. They're a psychic. They were hired by Lewis.
01:36:06
Speaker
And... I can't remember. Does Dutch just like kick them out? Yeah, Dutch like fires them. This is when Red, one of his like assistants, comes and grabs them and takes them out of the trailer and this is when Sean sees that Red has a Viking tattoo, like the word Viking, on his arm but he clocks that The V-I-K-I, Vicky, in the beginning of Viking, is ah slightly different than the last couple of letters. So he intuits that to mean that Red had a Vicky tattoo and Vicky is Dutch's wife.
01:36:46
Speaker
So maybe Red is the one trying to kill Dutch. Yes. And then we go back to the station. Or no, then we go to the stakeout. Yeah. Yeah.
01:36:58
Speaker
have a note that's just, oh no. Oh no. Oh no. and i think Yes. But this is before she comes, right?
01:37:09
Speaker
Is it not? No, it is. So this is. right, right, right. Okay. It's coming back to me. It's coming back to me.
01:37:17
Speaker
Jules and Lassie are on a stakeout. And, you know, Jules is still trying to get Lassie girlfriend. So she's like, why didn't you wear that maroon sweater? And and why, don you know, like put on some cologne. Like I like that cologne. It is funny the way she says it.
01:37:35
Speaker
She's like, I really liked you in that sweater. Yeah. And with short hair. Yes. And with short hair. Yeah. Yeah. And Lassie, understandably so, to be fair,
01:37:47
Speaker
Yeah, because the way she phrases it is like, yeah, I liked you in that. Yes, exactly. Lassie is like, you know, when a female officer. i think he just says a junior officer.
01:37:58
Speaker
Junior officer, sure. And a mentor officer, you know, come it makes sense that one might develop feelings. And last Jules is like, oh, no, no, no.
01:38:10
Speaker
no no
01:38:16
Speaker
oh my god, no. Way to lay it on there, Jules.
Life Insurance Revelation
01:38:21
Speaker
But then ju ah Jules, you know, let's slip or like she says to lassiter not me i don't like you vick told me vick ordered me to find you a girlfriend not me a girlfriend and she tells him that she has this friend you can meet later who likes cops so you know she was trying to get him to like look nice so that when he goes and meets this friend he would be looking his best which also funny because like what
01:38:51
Speaker
They're going to meet her later. What time is it? Where are they going? Take out. Yeah, it's probably the middle of the night. Yeah. What in the world? It's like, it's pretty dark out. I don't know what time of year it is.
01:39:03
Speaker
That's true. could be like nine o'clock. It could. I don't know. So yeah, all very funny. A lot of miscommunication being sewn in here. yeah And some of the lines that Lassiter says after this, I'm just like, oh, Lassie. Okay.
01:39:18
Speaker
So what if I saw a frozen dinner in half Ichi? Oh, yeah. Lassiter. he's Yeah. Yeah, that's interesting. Like, we're we've seen Jules kind of, you know, she's kind of getting more settled. And now Lassie's like the really lonely one.
01:39:35
Speaker
Yeah. I know. We same each other. Yes. And Sean and Gus. Yes. And then. oh and then we go.
01:39:47
Speaker
To Sean and Gus sneaking around. They're like watching Red, seeing what Red's up to. Because they're suspicious. And they think he's going to sabotage the bike.
01:39:59
Speaker
But he doesn't touch it. And he grabs something. and then he goes and meets Dutch. And he hooks him up to like an IV. ah and Sean like squints and like reads out like what what would you have if you are taking this in this and discuss this like wow you were nowhere close to the pronunciation
01:40:25
Speaker
But I love that Gus still knows exactly what Sean's talking about. Yeah. We know that this is probably like a running bit. Like Sean probably i mean intentionally. yeah those are Oh, that's And also they are hard to pronounce. Yes, totally.
01:40:39
Speaker
I can totally see him not having those in the back pocket. But I do love that Gus has his encyclopedic knowledge. Yes. You know, there you go. Speaking of what the human brain can do. True,
01:40:53
Speaker
And different skills. Gus has his pharmaceutical knowledge. He knows that it's likely pancreatic cancer, which is very sad for Dutch.
01:41:07
Speaker
Yeah. It's very intense. And we can tell, like, you know, they're kind of in a back room in this arena. It doesn't seem like anyone else is aware. it Yeah, yeah. It's definitely...
01:41:22
Speaker
Yeah, back corners, back alley. What's the, what am I thinking? Behind the scenes. Yeah, all of that. All that. You know.
01:41:33
Speaker
Oh my gosh, wait, part of what I loved about this whole progression of the scene is they're like, they're snooping, they're snooping, they see the medicine, know, Sean says the whole thing, but they're like hiding, they're crouching behind something, and there they find a dispenser of peanuts.
01:41:48
Speaker
Oh, I didn't even notice that, I don't think. He, yeah, dispenses peanuts for them, passes some over to Gus. Gus is like, I'm being the jackal. Yeah. okay yes i remember the jacket it's hard sometimes because i'm like taking notes and so i feel like i miss something there because there's always something going on was so funny i was just like of course you guys would just be eating nuts in the middle but must be eating at all times yes must yes must always be eating And then, yeah, they kind of come to these interesting questions for themselves and in this case. Why kill someone if he's already dying?
01:42:26
Speaker
And who knows that he's dying? Because this doesn't seem to be common knowledge. Like we said, this is like a backdoor deal that they're doing here with this IV trip. So the boys think maybe there actually is a will, even though they've been told by Lewis that there's not. Maybe there's like a secret will hidden somewhere. So they go back to his trailer.
01:42:45
Speaker
wait, because Sean said, um like if you were dying, wouldn't you like make well, cause he's like, Lewis doesn't know that his dad's dying. So he wouldn't know about the will.
01:42:56
Speaker
right And then Gus is like, I've had my estate planner on speed dial since we started this stupid business. Do you know how many times I've had a gun shoved in my face because of you? And I love Sean, like three.
01:43:09
Speaker
Well, and Gus, that's like wrong answer. And my question is, Is that actually the wrong answer? I bet that's actually the right answer. And Gus was just looking for like too many. Do you know what I mean? I know. Like have some sympathy. Yeah. Come on.
01:43:23
Speaker
Right. I mean, three is a lot. Three is a lot. Or that. Three is far too many. But yeah, it is really funny how Sean takes a moment and like counts. yeah Three? and is Yeah. Yeah. It's unfazed by that.
01:43:36
Speaker
Yeah, of course. Well, because I bet between the two of them, betwixt the two of them, um Sean has probably had a gun in his face more. So he's like, three? That's true. Not that many, you know? Come on. Just three?
01:43:46
Speaker
Just three. It'll be more by the end of this, bucko. Don't worry.
01:43:52
Speaker
So they're in his trailer looking for the will, looking all over. Gus is like, we're not going to find it. And Sean clocks the most minute thing. tiny little difference in the floor like vinyl of this trailer and prize it up lo and behold underneath there is a packet we assume it's a will however sean passes it off to gus because he doesn't know what any of this legalese stuff means and gus reads through it and realizes that it's a life insurance policy
01:44:24
Speaker
Not actually a will. But it's very, very good particular. Yeah. Very particular in that if Dutch dies of natural causes, his family gets nothing. No one gets anything. But if he dies in the middle of a stunt, his family gets a million dollars.
01:44:42
Speaker
And this is very important information. It really makes some things click in Sean's mind. And very sadly, he says, Gus, I know who our killer is.
01:44:59
Speaker
And then we go to our sad tunnel scene. Oh, the sad tunnel. and yeah I do love that moment too. Like the way he like his head falls back and yeah. yeah
01:45:10
Speaker
I know. for, what was his name?
01:45:15
Speaker
Jeff and also claps for James. Yes. I do also love the little bit in in here with um looking at the will before they realize that it's a life insurance policy.
01:45:30
Speaker
Gus was like, you were never good with legalese. And Sean was like, I got us our 401ks. Oh my gosh, yes. Gus was like, you mean our 601ks? Because India doesn't have 401ks. And Sean was like, we've made like 900 rupees.
01:45:43
Speaker
Gus goes, that's $13. It's a growth economy, Gus. Just good. So good. Oh gosh. And yeah, the sad tunnel scene, which we've talked a lot about already, but i moments, a couple specific moments when Dutch looks at him and goes, what are you going to do now?
01:46:09
Speaker
b And then the way they shake hands. The way Dutch runs and rides away. And we get to see Sean experience that.
01:46:21
Speaker
And the way he hears when he's like done it successfully. i know it really is ah very moving impactful scene.
01:46:37
Speaker
Yeah. One of the most serious scenes scenes we've ever had totally yeah and certainly not like one not involving like character drama terms of like you know it's not a sean and henry scene you know i feel like usually yeah when we're talking at length about a scene it's a sean and henry scene yeah um and very like emotional i feel like when we we have some really dramatic scenes, it's like high drama because of like the danger that they're in or something, you know, weapons or someone's about to die or, you know, doom. And this is I mean, I guess this is also kind of that someone could be about to die. This could be impending doom, but it's so like emotionally charged that it's hard in a very different way than I think we've, we've experienced yet.
01:47:33
Speaker
Yeah, it's so deeply sad. Yeah, yes. And like both characters are so sad. Like both characters involved in this conversation.
Emotional Depth and Future Episodes
01:47:44
Speaker
and Sean, i feel like feels sort of helpless, which for someone who likes to be a girl, we've talked a lot about that.
01:47:56
Speaker
He is really not like it's not going to be his decision. Yeah, he has absolutely no control in this. and And figuring it out doesn't resolve it. Yeah. It doesn't make it better. That's a great point.
01:48:10
Speaker
Which usually it's like solving it. Oh, he saved the day, you know. That's so true. Yeah. And like to that he has figured out and he knows.
01:48:22
Speaker
But if it goes south, like he doesn't get to say anything. Like doesn't, he's just having to carry that too. Yeah. And to know that like couldn't save him, like had it gone a different way.
01:48:37
Speaker
Like, wow. yeah poche when that's Yeah. I feel like too, we talked last time about sort of it, Or I think in Ghosts, that was like the realest it has ever gotten for Sean and Gus in terms of just like what they're going through in their life and like the stakes.
01:48:55
Speaker
And we're sort of staying in that gear you know like yeah yeah like to just tackle something so heavy not that murder is not but usually it's like after the fact right and um you know we don't have the same stake and it's not maybe as emotionally charged or the emotions would be more like anger h um but this is like real life or death stuff and like like relationships and emotions and like your like legacy and like what your responsibility is to the people that you care about and like like that is like some serious grown-up yeah well and it's it's interesting because we we were kind of asking that first episode back
01:49:48
Speaker
in Ghosts, is this going to be theme that we see throughout the season? And it seems like so far they are staying with the theme of like, we're doing the internal work.
01:50:01
Speaker
like Things are going to be emotional. We're growing up a little bit now. Yeah. I mean, this is making me want to kind of look ahead a little bit. Yeah. What's next? Okay. Next is the greatest adventure In the history of basic cable, which I feel like then is like going, okay, now we're back in kidville a little bit.
01:50:19
Speaker
Is this uncle? Uncle. Oh yeah. Okay. So like, it's, we're sort of like, you know, going between the two sides of, of Sean and of sort of their journey of like, kind of being in the, being a kid and adult and kind of the balance between the i think that makes sense for the you know the ethos of the show yeah and then after that we have disco didn't die it was murdered which is like huge reckoning for henry love that one yeah and like you we're going back in time again which yeah we've been doing a lot of that yeah
01:50:58
Speaker
and again I mean that kind of really relates to the reunion one you know the idea of like a moment and a choice and like yes because it's all about like Henry making a mistake and then there might be blood where we meet Vic's sister which again like it's those relationships it's that childhood like that is her version yeah ah of like turning into your teenage self. Like, right. Was that exactly what we were talking about? Yes.
01:51:31
Speaker
Oh, I'm excited. Oh my gosh. I'm excited. leave Could write an essay. i I mean, is this not the longest essay we've ever written? if you happen is me and Well, I'm excited to talk about the next one. I think it's going to be interesting to get to see Henry's brother.
01:51:56
Speaker
And to talk a little bit more about that dynamic, especially especially since we've at least momentarily met their father. So thinking about like what that dynamic in a house would have been like and how that yeah impacted Henry and and therefore Sean.
01:52:12
Speaker
think it'll be interesting. Yeah. and I think we're also going to watch Raiders of the Lost Ark. Yes. A great one. I'm excited. We talked about watching National Treasure 2, but I don't know. That is a lot of homework, and we have both seen it many times. So I don't know that have to, but I guess it could be like extra credit if you feel like if you get by Raiders the Lost Ark. I like that.
01:52:34
Speaker
I like it.
Podcast Conclusion
01:52:35
Speaker
So if you'd like to join us back here next time to talk a little bit about some adventure movies, if you'd like to watch Raiders of the Lost Ark, National Treasure, and then discuss it, of course, you could join us back here next week.
01:52:48
Speaker
And the psych episode too. And of course the psych episode. Duh. Does that even need to be said? Of course it does. Since we do talk about a lot of other things. We talk about all things. This will be a psych episode one. Yes.
01:53:01
Speaker
We'll talk. Yeah. We'll use the. We'll use our two homework assignments as jumping off points. Yes. We're discussing the episode. Not the other way around. You can join us back here next week to do that for more of a psych 6101. Bye.
01:53:17
Speaker
FSI 6101 would like to thank and credit the design efforts of Olavia Genesis, musical talents of Skane Music and Mikael Hunt, the production abilities of Kyle Dalton and Skillard Jensen, and of course, the support of our friends and family.
01:53:31
Speaker
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01:53:38
Speaker
I'm just going to cut my mic out right now. I could do that.