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The MOST PASSIVE way to CLEAR limiting beliefs PERMANENTELY with Kate Patraw (Belief & Emotion Code) image

The MOST PASSIVE way to CLEAR limiting beliefs PERMANENTELY with Kate Patraw (Belief & Emotion Code)

E14 · She's Next Level
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If you are a high achieving woman, a woman with dreams & desires, a woman who is into manifestation & spirituality, then you KNOW that the most IMPORTANT piece to experiencing the life you desire is to REWIRE THE MIND. In my experience, the biggest missing piece is energy work to shift your energetic light body (which is what i am obsessed with) & the physical mind work which is rewiring through thoughts, emotions, etc.

What i love about Kate, is that she combines both. She uses energy work to help you release limiting beliefs in REAL TIME. This has been the MOST PASSIVE way i have experienced in rewiring my mind, and I am so excited to share her with you guys! If you are ready to uplevel without the constant "mental work", and want it to feel easier, this episode is your biggest blessing in disguise. 

Kate's launched her "Release to Rise" 5 month container, where she works with you 1:1 to help you transform into a brand new b*tch. (I've worked with her 5 months so far at the time of this podcast episode) so i know the work workkkssss. 

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Transcript

Introduction and Special Guest

00:00:01
Darshna Patel
Hello, everybody, and welcome back to the She's Next Level podcast. Today, i have a very special guest, near and dear friend of mine who actually I met in my intuition training. And I have been working with her for also like the past four, is it like five months now, I feel like?
00:00:18
Darshna Patel
probably like four to four to five months, kind of like that timeframe.
00:00:19
Kate
Oh gosh, I didn't know.
00:00:23
Darshna Patel
It's been a while. feels like it's been a minute, but I have seen some remarkable changes within myself and just being on this healing journey overall. And I wanted to have her on here because i want to kind of put you guys on into some magic that Kate has and the work that she does. And I wanted to like give her a little bit of a platform to share her work because she's growing and I'm super excited because like stay tuned till the end we have a special offer for everybody as well um if you do decide that you want to like work with her and get in on all of this juice but I want Kate to introduce herself Kate who the fuck are you like what do you do how do you help people
00:01:08
Kate
So many ways.

Kate's Healing Practices

00:01:11
Kate
Well, essentially the, the main gist of what I do, like I obviously use trained intuition, you know, from the coursework we've done and look at reflections and root causes, but what I do is called emotion, body and belief code work.
00:01:24
Kate
And so what that is, is basically you're taking stuck energy. So energy frequencies that get stuck within our body, because we know everything's energy, right? And that can cause a lot of different symptoms.
00:01:35
Kate
It can be physical stuff, emotional stuff, like you name it, we work on it, like money blocks, relationship blocks, like anything. And so what I do is I help release that energy from people so that everything can just flow a little bit better and then they can access the highest versions of themselves easier.
00:01:54
Kate
And in doing that, it can you know help alleviate you know any mental symptoms, physical symptoms, emotional symptoms, like I was saying, you name it. And so that's essentially what I do.

Journey from Teaching to Healing

00:02:05
Darshna Patel
What got you into this?
00:02:08
Kate
i So I was a special education teacher for almost 20 years and at the middle school level. And I loved it. Like, I thought that was it for me. i wrote It is intense.
00:02:16
Darshna Patel
That's an intense job, man. gotta have a lot of patience for that.
00:02:20
Kate
And I was burnt the fuck. out after 20 years, but, but I loved it. Like I was the kid that had a chalkboard in the basement when I was little and played school. And so that's what I thought I would be.
00:02:31
Kate
was so burnt out that physical symptoms really started to creep in and because I just ignored it. Like I, and I think that's very much a teacher thing. Like we just kind of ignore what's going on and you just push through.
00:02:43
Kate
And so I took a leave and I had been trying all sorts of stuff, like mold cleanses and like all this holistic stuff, nothing was moving the needle. And my, yeah, nothing.
00:02:53
Darshna Patel
Really?
00:02:55
Kate
Like I would get short term relief and think this is it. Like this is it. And then backslide into like digestive issues, reproductive issues. Like it was just autoimmune stuff.
00:03:07
Kate
Like it was one thing after another that was like, it was really just my energy and my emotional imbalances trying to get my attention. But I didn't know that at the time. You know, you just don't know what you don't
00:03:17
Darshna Patel
That's really interesting, because I know that in the work that we do, there's a lot of like emotional root cause things like everything is energy. So like there's always ah an energetic cause. But then I also have friends that like have autoimmune issues, and they have healed themselves through the practical ways of like Chinese medicine, or like all these like holistic things. And so ah I'm just fascinated that even that like it didn't work for you.
00:03:43
Kate
And i I think the reason it didn't, I would get some relief. Like my numbers would come down or I, but it was always at the sacrifice of something else. And I think the reason it didn't is because one, I think I was supposed to find this work.
00:03:56
Kate
Like I really do feel like it's my calling. And two, I think I wasn't addressing the emotional imbalances that were, you know, i was doing the physical tools, but I wasn't doing the energetic stuff.
00:04:02
Darshna Patel
Wait, really?
00:04:05
Kate
And so it was like, great, we're going to like give you some relief, but then I'm not addressing because I didn't know, you know. And so I went to my practitioner, gosh, once, well, every time, you know, with processing, I'd go as often as I could for a year or two.

Self-Healing and Certification

00:04:20
Kate
She taught me how to do the work on myself before I even got certified because she was like, girl, you're spending a lot of money on me. And she's like,
00:04:27
Darshna Patel
wait really
00:04:28
Kate
Yeah. She was like, you can do this on your own. and know And she, she's amazing. Like she's one of my best mentors. She really is wonderful. So she taught me how to do it like slowly, but surely I learned the steps.
00:04:40
Kate
And then I was still thinking I was going back to teaching. So i'm like, I'm going get certified and help my students. But then as I got certified, I was like, teaching just doesn't feel right to me anymore. And I just want to help anyone who needs it.
00:04:52
Kate
So that's kind of how I got into it.
00:04:54
Darshna Patel
Yeah, literally everybody in the fucking world needs it. Because, like, everything's energy.
00:04:57
Kate
have
00:04:58
Darshna Patel
Yeah.
00:05:00
Kate
Everything. And for me, like, have something finally move the needle, i was like, holy shit, this is important stuff. Like, it helped me in ways that I didn't expect or anticipate.
00:05:11
Kate
And I just, to have those experiences, I'm like, this needs to be everywhere.
00:05:12
Darshna Patel
Yeah.
00:05:15
Kate
So.
00:05:15
Darshna Patel
it does honestly it's so funny because when i like first discovered to you my friend put me on like she was like oh i'm thinking about doing a session with her and she's in our little intuition thing and i was like i never heard of her but for some reason i felt this like pull to like i'm also always like super curious about anything and everything so i always want to try like new things out but for some reason with you i was like this sounds really cool And I remember like, I did not even, i don't remember if I told you this, but like, I don't even,
00:05:30
Kate
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Initial Skepticism and Transformation

00:05:44
Darshna Patel
i didn't even look at any of your content.
00:05:45
Darshna Patel
Like I went straight to the DMS and I was like, let's book like, and then after I booked with you, then I looked at your content. i only looked at through your first video. And then I was like, yeah, we we did this.
00:05:57
Darshna Patel
Like, this is it. And I still don't have like a full idea of like, what the work that you do is like fully, I have like a little bit of an idea since I've been through it.
00:06:07
Darshna Patel
But like, I'm actually like really curious to dive deeper into that, because I'm really curious to understand like the energetics and the science and all of that, just because it's something that feels like
00:06:07
Kate
Mm-hmm.
00:06:19
Darshna Patel
woo woo, it feels like it would be it for a lot of people, right? It just feels like if you're not into energy work or like aware of all this kind of stuff, like a lot of people are, then it would be hard for them to believe that like this modality specifically is like the most passive like modality that I've ever experienced that I actually love.
00:06:42
Darshna Patel
where you just get to sit back and receive, like we, like anyone who's in the healing world and like does the inner work knows there's always fucking work to do.
00:06:43
Kate
yeah yeah
00:06:45
Kate
yeah
00:06:51
Darshna Patel
Like there's always something meant like a mental process, like work. But this was like the one modality where I was like, I just have to like show up and let her do the work. And it, and that's what really draws me in the most because, you know, I'm on this journey of like healing my feminine energy and like stepping more into the embodiment of my feminine and like,
00:07:09
Darshna Patel
helping people with that and like doing all the things that they love in a feminine way. And that is like, like what you do is literally like the embodiment of feminine. Like you are the masculine structure.
00:07:19
Darshna Patel
And then um i just show up and receive. And i don't even think I fully believed in it when we did our first session, honestly.
00:07:23
Kate
Yeah. Yeah. yeah
00:07:28
Darshna Patel
But there was a part of me that was just curious. And it was just like, well, let's just see. Especially when you did a distance session with me, like time. last time I was like, can it still work? one The moment I started feeling detox symptoms, i was like, oh, shit, this is real.
00:07:46
Kate
I know. I know. Cause I think it's hard to wrap our human brains around it, especially the distance sessions. I, the part that, and I think this comes just from like the special education heart of me is I love that this is inclusive.
00:07:59
Kate
I can do this on anyone, anywhere. Like you don't have to even be verbal. I do. i do this work with kids with autism.
00:08:04
Darshna Patel
Wait, seriously?
00:08:05
Kate
Yeah. Yeah. All I have to do is connect to your subconscious, which sounds like I can read your mind and it's, that's not what it is. It's really like, I'm tuning into your radio dial or I'm tuning into like your wifi network. I'm just connecting to your frequency. That's really all it is.

Connecting with Subconscious Mind

00:08:23
Kate
And then you.
00:08:23
Darshna Patel
so how does that work though like can you can you break that down a little bit for like people that are like whoa what the fuck and i'm also like whoa like what does that mean
00:08:23
Kate
double
00:08:31
Kate
Sure. Like in terms of the process, do you mean like what, ah what I do.
00:08:34
Darshna Patel
Yeah, like, like, just kind of like a BTS of like, what does that look like? What does that mean to connect to the subconscious mind? Because and I only ask this because like, from someone like, you know, that does energy work is going to be a big part of what I do to what I understand about energy work is everything's an intention, right?
00:08:42
Kate
Yeah.
00:08:48
Kate
her
00:08:52
Darshna Patel
It's it's your focus, your intention, right? So then what makes this different than just that? Because anyone can just set intentions like all day and do energy work like that.
00:09:00
Kate
Right. Right. Right. With this, it's, it's definitely in intention. I mean, that when I'm releasing the energies, I have to have a strong intention, but in terms of the connecting to the subconscious, that's really a permission.
00:09:14
Kate
That's really what it is, is I'm getting permission from you to access your energy. So whether we're distance or Zoom, in person, I don't have to connect to their subconscious because I'm in their space.
00:09:26
Kate
So I can feed off their energy and I can muscle test.
00:09:27
Darshna Patel
What?
00:09:29
Kate
So, you know, i use the ring and ring method so I can muscle test in their space. But if I'm not in their space, I need some sort of connection to them. And so I don't need a picture. I don't need a name. i just need permission. So when we do a distance, it's like, okay, I know that I have Darsha's permission.
00:09:47
Kate
so when I do my prayer before we start our session, i just bring in your angels. I bring in your spirit guides and I know that you've already given me permission. And so then I asked to connect so I can act as a proxy for, to release these energies because obviously we're not in person.
00:10:03
Kate
So I can't run my magnet.
00:10:03
Darshna Patel
Right.
00:10:04
Kate
I run the magnet over the governing meridian to release the energy. And when I run it back, it's kind of like, you know, in a credit card, the governing meridians from your forehead all the way back to the back of like the back of your head, kind of like the base of your neck.
00:10:11
Darshna Patel
What is that? Like, yeah.
00:10:20
Darshna Patel
Okay. So what is that?
00:10:21
Kate
almost
00:10:22
Darshna Patel
Like, what is a governing meridian?
00:10:24
Kate
ah Part of the meridians in the body and it governs what happens in the body.
00:10:25
Darshna Patel
What is that?
00:10:29
Kate
Like a truly that, you know, the name really similar.
00:10:31
Darshna Patel
Is that like the same as chakras? Or no?
00:10:35
Kate
Yeah. Similar, but different. Yeah. I mean, it's in the same area.
00:10:37
Darshna Patel
How are they different?
00:10:40
Kate
Different in that, hold on, I just got different in that they just have different names, but they're in similar areas. So like, you know how we have the seven chakras also have meridians that can become imbalanced.
00:10:49
Darshna Patel
Right.
00:10:54
Kate
And so for example, yeah, I can give you some names of them.
00:10:54
Darshna Patel
Oh.
00:10:57
Kate
Cause that might help. Cause we've, heard I've like, I've heard of meridians before, but then I'm like, Hmm, you know, I mean, you just don't what you don't know.
00:11:04
Darshna Patel
Yeah.
00:11:06
Kate
So we've got main meridians throughout our body. that are connected to organs and glands. So we have stomach meridian, the bladder meridian, mean, you name it. Then we have things that are a little bit more like on the Chinese medicine side of things.
00:11:21
Kate
That's where like the governing meridian comes in, the conception meridian, all of those things.
00:11:21
Darshna Patel
Huh.
00:11:25
Kate
So for the governing meridian, yeah, it's really interesting.
00:11:27
Darshna Patel
That's interesting.
00:11:31
Darshna Patel
So is he what is EFT tapping then?
00:11:31
Kate
It's really interesting.
00:11:33
Darshna Patel
Because I'm so I'm only familiar with EFT tapping as like, oh, you're tapping on the meridians. So like, is that like, is there more to that than just EFT tapping?
00:11:38
Kate
Yes. Yeah.
00:11:43
Darshna Patel
Like, that's just like one because EFT tapping is really helpful too, with releasing.
00:11:48
Kate
It is.
00:11:49
Darshna Patel
So it's like, how is this different with the meridians for that?
00:11:49
Kate
is.
00:11:52
Darshna Patel
And the versus like the thing that you do?
00:11:55
Kate
When I swipe. So for this, the way I release the energy, no matter where it is in your body, I just have to swipe on the governing one.
00:11:56
Darshna Patel
Yeah.
00:12:05
Kate
That's it. You don't have to tap any other area in order for energy to release. So you could have a trapped, let's see you have a trapped emotion of anger in your ovary. Okay. Which is where most of us women will, most of women store their energy, like they're trapped emotions.
00:12:21
Darshna Patel
Right.
00:12:21
Kate
Um, as I release it over my governing meridian, that will leave your ovary, but I don't have to like go to the conception meridian to do that. It really is just the base of all.
00:12:31
Darshna Patel
I see.
00:12:32
Kate
Mm-hmm.
00:12:32
Darshna Patel
It's like the main hub for everything to just release.
00:12:35
Kate
Yeah. In this case, yes.
00:12:36
Darshna Patel
Interesting. Interesting. You know, it was really funny when you were talking about like how you don't technically have to have consent, but when you're like, when a zoom, like a distance type of read, then you do.
00:12:38
Kate
Yeah.
00:12:48
Darshna Patel
Right. In my mind, I was thinking about like all the black magic shit that'd be going out there. And so like, how are they hacking your energy without your consent then?
00:12:58
Darshna Patel
Cause like you asked for consent.
00:13:00
Kate
Well, I think, yeah.
00:13:02
Darshna Patel
So yeah,
00:13:05
Kate
That's a good question though, because I think in terms of like what I do, this the energy I release is super specific. If you really think about it, like these are, for example, like the limiting beliefs that we release within your belief code sessions, those are specifically tailored to you and they're specific to your energetic field.
00:13:26
Kate
So I think that the reason I need that connection is because I'm not just doing a ah ah basic bland upgrade, which not that there's anything like wrong with that, you know, like EFT tapping is more like you hit these general guidelines and what you say is important.
00:13:27
Darshna Patel
you
00:13:42
Kate
Like as you tap the energy through with this, you don't have to do anything or know anything. I'm the one that has to investigate. So I think that's why I need your permission, because it really everything is so specific and so tailored.
00:13:50
Darshna Patel
e
00:13:55
Kate
And I can't release anything unless it's decoded as accurately as possible. So it's almost like your subconscious protects you in that way.
00:14:04
Darshna Patel
I see.
00:14:04
Kate
That makes sense.
00:14:05
Darshna Patel
Interesting.
00:14:05
Kate
Yeah.
00:14:05
Darshna Patel
i think it's also really cool how like you like technically speak with the subconscious.
00:14:05
Kate
Mm
00:14:11
Darshna Patel
It's kind of like you have a conversation with the subconscious.
00:14:11
Kate
hmm.
00:14:13
Darshna Patel
And I've been really fascinated about that just because like recently, I have been working on developing a healthier relationship with my subconscious. Let me tell you, girl, yesterday like yesterday i had and obviously the work that we did around wholeness, right?
00:14:21
Kate
Yeah. Yeah. Right. Right.
00:14:29
Darshna Patel
Feeling whole and complete. And my emotional and mental wholeness was like down. Yesterday was like the most craziest emotional like day where ah my body was just tired and it hurt so bad because I was just crying. i was just like so It was just not good.
00:14:46
Darshna Patel
It was good, but it was just like not enjoyable when I went through it.
00:14:50
Kate
right
00:14:51
Darshna Patel
hum And so like, I'm just curious, like, and then like, what made me realize is that, wow, like, it just like, you know, being in the healing world, we're so like, we're so like conditioned in a way to like, be like, oh, this there's a limiting belief, my subconscious is doing this, like, oh, this is happening subconscious.
00:15:10
Kate
I know, I
00:15:11
Darshna Patel
It's your subconscious mind. Like, it's, it's fault, right? But the way that you approach it, it seems like you work with the subconscious mind. So how does that like, How does that work when you're communicating with it?
00:15:23
Darshna Patel
Is it like, like are you when you're using, this is that when you're using your intuition and you're like, kind of like, how does that process work? I'm just kind of like, because you technically like nothing can be released unless it's your, so unless the subconscious mind agrees to.
00:15:34
Kate
i know i know oh
00:15:42
Darshna Patel
And so how does
00:15:42
Kate
Absolutely.
00:15:43
Darshna Patel
like Like if someone came to you, like just like me when I did and I was like, I want to fully release this whole thing, like buy everything. Right. And we've done like we've experimented before to make things more efficient.
00:15:55
Kate
yeah.
00:15:55
Darshna Patel
How do you know when it's like, no, like what are the consequences if you ever did? Because I'm sure you probably had clients that were like, hey, like I just want to get rid of this whole thing, like for good.
00:16:06
Kate
Sure.
00:16:06
Darshna Patel
Yeah.
00:16:07
Kate
It's yeah. And I get it too. I mean, and that's the thing, like, in terms of the work, your subconscious is going to guide me and that's what's safest for you, but that's where muscle testing comes in. So I use a bit of a combination of my intuition, but in terms of what I release emotion, body, and belief code, that's all muscle testing.
00:16:26
Kate
So that is when I use it, which is like, kind of goes back to kinesiology where, and there's all different forms of muscle testing, right? Mine is the ring ring. So as I muscle test, I'm constantly asking yes or no questions. A yes, the ring stays strong. A no, it breaks apart. And when you do this enough, you really actually almost can feel the energy before it even happens.
00:16:48
Kate
But I always just, yeah, because you just kind of, you can you know what to feel.
00:16:48
Darshna Patel
Really?
00:16:52
Kate
at first, it's really like, it's like learning to ride a bike or learning to like drive. Everything feels awkward and you're like, am

Intuition and Muscle Testing

00:16:58
Kate
I doing this right? You know, but as you practice it, you really start to understand what the energy feels like.
00:16:59
Darshna Patel
Right.
00:17:04
Kate
And so what I'll do, yeah, yeah.
00:17:04
Darshna Patel
Do you feel it? You feel it? Like you feel it? Oh my God. You must be feeling a lot every time.
00:17:13
Kate
I feel like it's a little bit of exhausting work, I will say, but then like you just to have to clear your energy after each person.
00:17:16
Darshna Patel
Yeah.
00:17:19
Kate
You can only do so many people in a day just because it can like be really be taxing. But yeah, I felt it like I can feel that's I think where intuition also comes in because I'll decode something and I'll say, hey, you have this in this spot, but then I can feel what it really means to them, like anxiety or there's a backstory to this.
00:17:38
Kate
And that's where I use intuition. So I may decode something like you have this from this date and this is how it felt, but then i will decode what area of life and what was the situation.
00:17:49
Kate
And that's, so that's where intuition works with the muscle testing. And that's what I like.
00:17:54
Darshna Patel
Okay.
00:17:54
Kate
Cause then I can give people as much detail as much. Cause I don't, I don't have to look into it. Like I can decode the energy and release, which is good for some people.
00:17:59
Darshna Patel
Yeah.
00:18:01
Kate
Some people like, i don't want relive it.
00:18:02
Darshna Patel
Yeah.
00:18:03
Kate
I don't want to talk to you about it. And that's cool.
00:18:05
Darshna Patel
Yeah.
00:18:06
Kate
But some people want to know. Like some, that's part of their healing journey. And so that's when I use intuition to just give them more detail and really get to like the root cause of things and the reflection of things too.
00:18:17
Darshna Patel
So so something I want to know that I was curious about was you're releasing energy, right? But then we also know that emotions hold like stay in the body, right? When you're releasing those beliefs in that energy, are the emotions also being released?
00:18:31
Kate
They are. So they, and that's why you might feel tired. You might have like those crying jags where you're like, man, I can't stop. Or some people feel anger more as things are working out of their, out of your body.
00:18:43
Kate
You're going to feel that emotion more. And you're also going to feel the emotion that you tend to gravitate towards the most more because you're just, because as it's working its way out, you're, you're starting to get back to balance, but you're still energetically imbalanced.
00:18:58
Kate
And cause we're human, you what mean? Like we can only be so balanced. But yeah, that's a absolutely, yeah, it works its way out.
00:19:02
Darshna Patel
Right. Okay. Then do the memories that we have that have that emotional charge, do they get released from that too? Or would we still need to go and do that?
00:19:15
Kate
It depends. So with memories, it's it's almost like, it's not like you're ever going to lose the memory, but you're going to be more neutral around the memory emotionally.
00:19:25
Kate
So instead of when you think of that memory, like the angst or the anger or the fear or grief or whatever comes up, that doesn't.
00:19:26
Darshna Patel
And
00:19:33
Kate
It just is more of like, this was my experience. And when you come from a more neutral place, it just puts things in perspective. You're almost like, not that you're grateful for it, but you kind of are in a way.
00:19:45
Kate
You're like, this is just is what it is. And you move on. You no longer have like that emotional tie. Because once we can get neutral with things, that's when we really move past things energetically, emotionally, and so on.
00:19:55
Darshna Patel
Interesting. I think it's also really cool because like you focus on releasing, right?
00:19:57
Kate
Yeah. Yeah.
00:20:00
Darshna Patel
So like a lot of in the subconscious rewiring world, I noticed that like, you know, everyone constantly tells you like, don't focus on what you don't want, focus on what you want, because you're building that neural pathway, like you're building it, right.
00:20:13
Darshna Patel
But I love to hear your take on that, because it seems like what you focus on is the releasing, And then i don't, I mean, do you do a lot of like, integrating to or like new belief stuff?
00:20:26
Darshna Patel
Or how does that work with you?
00:20:28
Kate
It all depends on the client. So in every session is different. So let's say I release a belief system from you and you're right. It is a bunch of negative beliefs that are stuck in our subconscious mind.
00:20:38
Kate
After I release them, I always check and see if people just need a magnet to be run to make space for positive to come in or if they need specific positive statements.

Integrating Positive Beliefs

00:20:49
Kate
And it depends, everyone's different.
00:20:50
Kate
A lot of times you might need what we call an empowering core identity. And then I run my magnet to instill that. And then it's, that becomes an ingredient that, you know, the client can then start to clock micro moments if they so choose.
00:21:02
Kate
But yeah,
00:21:03
Darshna Patel
Okay. So they still have to like physically, they still have to root to it.
00:21:07
Kate
I think they should, my recommendation is always to teach them about micro moments, just because I think that expedites things.
00:21:12
Darshna Patel
Yeah.
00:21:14
Kate
And I'm all about trying to get people to heal. the fastest, most easiest, most effective long-term way. Cause like, we don't want to be doing this shit the rest of our lives. Like we want healing.
00:21:23
Darshna Patel
Well, that's why i work with you, because I love efficient and I like easy.
00:21:27
Kate
lets
00:21:27
Darshna Patel
ah
00:21:28
Kate
Yeah, yeah, exactly. And so I'll run them. And some people are like, okay, you know, but other people really take it seriously. And you can tell the difference in their energy when they come back to me, if they've started to clock things, their, their subconscious starts to reprogram much quicker because essentially what I'm doing, no,
00:21:43
Darshna Patel
Is it? Keep going.
00:21:47
Kate
Essentially what I'm doing is getting rid of all those negative beliefs and that energy is transmuting. So then there's space in the subconscious for positive to come in. Well, the best way for that to come in is to do those ingredients and that rewires things quicker as opposed to just acknowledging the ingredients and then moving on.
00:22:04
Kate
You know, if you really make it your homework, o the healing is exponential.
00:22:07
Darshna Patel
Yeah. Yeah. I think is it easier for because the biggest thing with that, and for anyone that just doesn't know what ingredients are, it's just something that we learned from our mentor, I call it like my belief statements, I call my EMF field, my belief field.
00:22:17
Kate
Exactly.
00:22:22
Darshna Patel
But it's basically like ask formations or affirmations, I personally like ask formations, because you're constantly asking your subconscious mind for proof of a statement. But like,
00:22:34
Darshna Patel
Um, so that's basically what it is, but I've noticed, and I'm doing like a lot of, ah you know, beliefs right now, like I'm doing around 36 and then I have my evening ones too. and is it more effective?
00:22:47
Darshna Patel
You said that it depends for each person. So is it more effective when you implant them and then the person starts doing it versus them doing it themselves without you doing that? Is there some type of energetic, like advantage there that they can benefit from if you do that?
00:23:01
Kate
Yeah. I think for them, yeah, in those cases, yes, because i I think that it helps just instill the ingredient within their subconscious. And then as they find those little pieces of evidence throughout their day of like, oh, that's when, you know, I am worthy of love.
00:23:18
Kate
Oh, there was an example. There was an example that just strengthens the neurons. You know what i mean? Like it just strengthens the everything.
00:23:24
Darshna Patel
I'm just like, why not't why doesn't this why doesn't this like part of the big process?
00:23:24
Kate
yeah.
00:23:28
Darshna Patel
like Why can't everybody do that? Because like the whole process of this is releasing, but then also integrating and strengthening the newer pathways to like constantly look for that.
00:23:36
Kate
It Yeah. Yeah. It's what I've learned with this work, which is really frustrating for me because you know, I'm like, let's be efficient and let's be effective is I have to respect wherever somebody's subconscious is. And some people aren't, they just need the space open and they're not ready yet for the positive to come in yet, or they're not ready yet for specific statements because maybe there's more to release. Cause really the work that I do, it's like, you're just constantly peeling back layers like an onion. So I'll release energy and then more shit's gonna come up that we have to release because we're humans. Like we've stored and have trapped energies within us, you know, since birth and even before birth, I've released stuff. So it's, I think that it's really respecting where they're at and that the process for some, the pace is just gonna be different for every single person. And it really also depends on where their energy is for that session.
00:24:30
Kate
Cause you could come to me
00:24:30
Darshna Patel
What does that mean?
00:24:32
Kate
meaning you could come to me for one session and like you're open, you're ready to go. You could come to me another session and you might have other things on your mind or other, you know, and that might in like impact the session we have and what you're open to.
00:24:46
Kate
I always miss the test to make sure everybody's ready for it, as you know, you know, but i think the more open people are, the more that comes up in their session.
00:24:46
Darshna Patel
i Oh.
00:24:56
Kate
so it's just
00:24:56
Darshna Patel
So the more present that they are, the more open to like whatever, like letting go of that control of what's going happen.
00:25:02
Kate
Yes. Yes. And then the more intentional they are.
00:25:04
Darshna Patel
is
00:25:06
Kate
Yeah. yeah rehe Yeah.
00:25:07
Darshna Patel
Interesting. I feel like when I work with you, I'm like semi-intentional, but I also trust you at this point, which I even did in the beginning too. I was just also trying to make things efficient. Yeah.
00:25:18
Kate
Which I appreciate. That was amazing and super helpful because now I do that with everybody. Well, everybody that wants it.
00:25:23
Darshna Patel
Yeah.
00:25:24
Kate
Yeah.
00:25:24
Darshna Patel
Yeah.
00:25:24
Kate
Yeah.
00:25:25
Darshna Patel
Tell me about that, though. Like the bulk releasing that we do for everybody that doesn't know, like we, you know, Kay and I like we're working together and we like came up with a way to like bulk release a lot of beliefs.
00:25:30
Kate
Yeah.
00:25:38
Darshna Patel
Right.
00:25:39
Kate
Yeah.
00:25:39
Darshna Patel
Two questions to this. My first is like, how is that technically work? And then because I'm still like, how? But then have you ever had a moment where like somebody didn't fully release, you know,
00:25:53
Darshna Patel
everything that you intended to that it just didn't do what it was supposed to do.
00:25:59
Kate
The, so in terms of, have I ever had a moment with, no, I haven't had a moment where someone just didn't release anything. By the end of the session, there's been moments where, you know, muscle testing was off or something wouldn't go or I released it and it came back. And all that meant was I just needed to do a little bit more digging. So there was an extra energy that needed to be released because there a lot of the energies that were releasing, they aren't just single energies. There's like groups of them that almost create a little energetic ball.
00:26:28
Kate
And so I can't release any of that unless I start from the bottom and release every part of that. And so that has happened. And that's just, that's a practitioner thing where I've got to go, okay, start, start looking. And you just start muscle testing and you really figure out kind of the missing piece of the puzzle. Then once you do, it's like dominoes, you can release, release, release, release. Yeah.
00:26:50
Darshna Patel
interesting
00:26:50
Kate
and yeah Yeah. So it's really, it's a, it's a fail safe. Like the teacher in me likes that. It's like, you have to check your work, you know, which is cool.
00:26:58
Darshna Patel
Yeah.
00:26:59
Kate
Yeah.
00:26:59
Darshna Patel
Yeah.
00:26:59
Kate
Yeah.
00:27:00
Darshna Patel
How many sessions do you feel like you've noticed like in your work, where if somebody like, hot like for me, right? i don't want to use myself for example. But like, let's say so like a good, like good enough is a big one for a lot of people, right?
00:27:14
Darshna Patel
Like just a core emotional, like root cause thing. How many sessions do you feel like on average, it takes to like fully transmute that?
00:27:25
Kate
Oh, you know, it's, it's so unique. It's hard to say, but it's always more than one or two, you know, because I think it's, that's one of just as humans, I think that's our, one of our bigger,
00:27:31
Darshna Patel
Yeah.
00:27:37
Kate
issues that are bigger kind of obstacles and challenges in life and just why we're, we're here to figure out, you know, or what we're here to figure out. So it's, I would always, you know, say at least try two for that.
00:27:47
Kate
It also depends on what other people are doing. So if they're solely doing my work, it's going to be like three to five sessions, you know, but if they're doing other stuff, like let's say what you're doing, where you, you have the knowledge and the training from other courses and stuff, then you can also kind of move that needle along a little bit quicker in what you do.
00:28:06
Kate
And there's no right or wrong. You know, I think it's just based on what people are here to learn and figure out and achieve, you know?
00:28:12
Darshna Patel
Yeah, that's why I also really love like the containers that you're putting together for people because we were talking about this and I was like, the heart of everything is in your self image.
00:28:13
Kate
Yeah.
00:28:23
Darshna Patel
And like, I remember telling you, like, I want to work on the core foundational things with you because those are the things that are like the most needle moving, you know, like, because there's so many intentions that we can work on, you know, but what is like the root, the root, the root, the root, like the motherfucking root of them all.
00:28:35
Kate
Oh, gosh.
00:28:40
Kate
Yes. Yes.
00:28:41
Darshna Patel
to work on.
00:28:42
Kate
Exactly.
00:28:42
Darshna Patel
us That's what I've been like doing with you. And what I really like is that, you know, you're creating like, I believe you have, i don't know if you're going to create another container, but the one that you have, I'd love for you to speak on it because I do feel like you're also incorporating some self-image stuff in there.
00:28:58
Darshna Patel
Right.
00:28:59
Kate
Yes.
00:28:59
Darshna Patel
So could you share with everyone like what, you know, the thing is and like, who would it be perfect for?
00:28:59
Kate
Yes. Good
00:29:03
Kate
job.
00:29:06
Darshna Patel
and all the goodness.
00:29:07
Kate
Yeah, absolutely.
00:29:08
Darshna Patel
Yeah.
00:29:08
Kate
Yeah. So it's, I, I kind of came upon it after you and i started working together because we had worked on the bulk

Release to Rise Program

00:29:16
Kate
release things. And then as I took intuition classes, i was like, there's just more, we really needed the physical to come in with the energetic. So it's a five month container. It's called the release to rise program. And essentially what I do is the first thing we do is a roadmap call where I get on the phone with you. We talk about your symptoms, symptoms, your obstacles.
00:29:36
Kate
We, I scientifically start to measure where are you in that process? So if it's, I don't feel good enough. Okay. Well, is that a reflection? Is that a root cause? We dial it down as, as specific as possible.
00:29:48
Kate
And then I go, okay, on a scale of zero to a hundred, where are you in this process? Because I want to measure, like, I just, I love getting the numerical stuff. Cause then you can,
00:29:56
Darshna Patel
You're like a nerd, like a nerd at heart.
00:29:58
Kate
I'm so nerd. I'm like, i'm I do. I totally nerd out on it. So then we make a whole like plan for the five months. And then you get five energy sessions because typically we would do one a month just because of the processing time. You really need to have time to let the energy work its way out and transmute.
00:30:15
Kate
And you get an integration call because after the first session, it's kind of confusing. i mean, and you've experienced it where it's like, i have all these questions. Things come up afterwards. So we hop on a call. I explain stuff.
00:30:26
Kate
And then throughout the five months, I'm at you know people's disposal via text where they can ask questions in between check-ins.
00:30:28
Darshna Patel
What is that?
00:30:34
Kate
But then the other part, which I think is the real like ultimate package, is adding the physical toolkit. So after each energy session, yeah so after each energy session I will intuitively say, okay, do you need what do you need to physically help reprogram the brain as this moves its way out?
00:30:53
Kate
So as you're processing the energy, what can help you expedite the process, solidify everything so that it's permanent change? Because like we're done with surface fixes, like we want, you know, root causes to be changed. So that would be anything from like reprogramming ingredients, you know, things like we just talked about, statements that'll help rewire your brain or somatic exercises, or is there something in nature you need to do? Is there something food-wise, nutrition-wise, like what do you need to do to put you in the perfect space to not only have that energy transmute, but then also have you reprogram things, reprogram your body so that those changes are final, like it's lasting.
00:31:34
Kate
And then, if yeah.
00:31:34
Darshna Patel
I like that.
00:31:36
Kate
And I just, because there was something, I love the energy work and the energy sessions alone. They're great. Don't get me wrong. But when you add that physical, oh man, it's like, I don't know the growth that I've seen, not only in my, cause I started doing it on myself and I was like, Ooh, it just, it just moves the needle much quicker.
00:31:53
Kate
Much farther, much faster. And, and, you know, that's what I'm all about. And then I think, end I mean, ever since I started intuition courses, I would like start, I just kind of started playing around with it.
00:31:57
Darshna Patel
How long have you been doing it on yourself?
00:32:06
Kate
And then, you know, creating my own health and fitness plan or creating my own somatic. Like, what do I need? What song do I specifically need? Like I muscle test everything now. So like today for my somatic, it yeah, it's almost kind of a little out of control, but it's like, it's so nice.
00:32:16
Darshna Patel
That's so interesting.
00:32:21
Kate
Cause you know, you're just like subconscious, hire yourself, take over. But like i muscle test and say, okay, what song do I need to listen to today for my somatic work? What do I need to work out of my body right now? Go to the song, do my playlist. And it's just,
00:32:34
Kate
You know, and that's what I do every time now. And it just really, don't know, it's it's shifted it quite a bit for me.
00:32:41
Darshna Patel
Yeah, it's so wild too, because I never heard of this, like this modality ever, like until I met you. And I'd love to know like more of, because I know the founder also has a book on it so people can learn, right?
00:32:53
Kate
He does. Yep. Yep. And that's the thing. So anyone can do this work. Anyone, you just have to, if anyone wanted to, the first thing I would do is tell you to just practice your muscle testing and read the books.
00:33:05
Kate
So Bradley Nelson is the creator of it. He's a chiropractor. He really felt like he got a download from God, from source, whoever you want to call it.
00:33:09
Darshna Patel
Hmm.
00:33:13
Kate
And through his chiropractic work, he honed and refined this over He's in his late 60s now, I think. So it was like decades. He really worked on this. There's two books, Emotion Code and then there's Body Code. I would recommend starting with Emotion Code because that's really your base layer.
00:33:29
Kate
They don't have a belief code book yet, but they have a new book coming out in December called Heart Code, which talks all about just opening your heart and the different energies that get trapped around your heart, which can cause all sorts of ailments that we don't even realize. So that's coming out too, but I like the books. They're easy to read. They give you instructions on how you can do it, how you can practice it. So really anyone can do this work.
00:33:53
Kate
It's pretty accessible.
00:33:54
Darshna Patel
That's wild.
00:33:55
Darshna Patel
What's the difference between a belief code an emotion code then?
00:33:55
Kate
Yeah.
00:34:01
Kate
It's really, I think for them, i think this was kind of their level of creation. So they started with a emotion code. Emotion code was really all solely about trapped emotions.
00:34:11
Kate
which are called trapped motions, compound traumas, or heart walls. So those are three different types of energies that I would release and explain.
00:34:17
Darshna Patel
<unk>ing Is that like nervous system work?
00:34:21
Kate
All of it is, yeah. it is it That's the thing with this stuff. All of the energies are also associated with different systems and different organs and different glands. So as we're releasing emotional energies, you're also raising your vibration of your reproductive system. You're raising your vibration of you know your heart imbalance, or your stomach, or whatever it may be. So it's funny because people come to me with emotional stuff, but then they'll get like physical relief from like stuff they didn't think was associated because truly anything can cause anything in this work. So you really have to be open-minded to it.
00:34:54
Darshna Patel
Interesting.
00:34:54
Kate
But yeah, so then there's, so there's emotion code, but then there's body code. So body code includes emotion code, but then also talks about like pathogens and toxins and lifestyle stuff and organs, glands, systems, you know, anything like that, brain circuitry, like we can reconnect your brain, you know, that type of thing, um, in terms of energetically and then belief code that includes body code and emotion code, but that gets to like your deeper subconscious programming. So the, the, the subconscious beliefs that are holding you back that you probably have no idea are you might,
00:35:27
Kate
But a lot of times you don't. Like a lot of times you're like, sure, I didn't i thought I was good with that. And you're not, you know, on a subconscious level at least.
00:35:33
Darshna Patel
Yeah.
00:35:35
Kate
Yeah.
00:35:35
Darshna Patel
Yeah, wait, so technically belief code includes all all of the everything.
00:35:40
Kate
Yep, it does. Yep.
00:35:42
Darshna Patel
So that happens automatically. Like as
00:35:44
Kate
It happens automatically. Yeah, because through belief code, then you also need to use body code and that includes emotion code. So they really kind of stack on top of each other. Yeah.
00:35:52
Darshna Patel
Interesting. Interesting. so how do you know, like when you're fully shifted from a belief from the work that you do? you ever get people asking you that?
00:36:01
Kate
Well, yeah.
00:36:03
Darshna Patel
Like your client, like, am I did may i really over this?
00:36:04
Kate
Oh, yeah.
00:36:06
Darshna Patel
Cause my biggest thing with this is this seems like to be the easiest thing ever. and that's a big fucking programming in, in the society, right.
00:36:11
Kate
I know.
00:36:14
Darshna Patel
For, especially for women for it's like, Oh, it's no, like work hard or like it has to, you have to earn it or has to be, you know, versus this.
00:36:16
Kate
Yeah.
00:36:22
Kate
Yeah.
00:36:22
Darshna Patel
It's like, it's showing you like, Holy shit. It gets to be easy. Like you can literally heal yourself within a split of a, fucking second of deciding and releasing right and so i'm just like but but something that's like really on my mind is like how come we can't do that ourselves when we need something like this to do it when it literally is all about just releasing with intention
00:36:34
Kate
Yeah. Yeah.
00:36:49
Kate
I don't know. That's a good question. i think it's one, I think it's an awareness. I mean, cause like you said, I didn't, I didn't know about this work until my acupuncturist was like, try this. And I was like, okay, you know, whatever, I'll try anything.
00:36:59
Darshna Patel
ray
00:37:02
Kate
I think that people are becoming more aware of different modalities, but I think that this isn't like the most popular known thing really. When I look at the practitioner map, there's like, I mean, there's people from all over the world, but it's under, it's for maybe around 5,000.
00:37:17
Kate
That's really not a lot of people.
00:37:18
Darshna Patel
That's it?
00:37:19
Kate
Yeah.
00:37:19
Darshna Patel
That is nothing. Wow.
00:37:21
Kate
That's nothing. If you really think about it, you know?
00:37:24
Darshna Patel
Yeah.
00:37:24
Kate
But at the end of the day, like we could all do this. I think that this specifically though, you have to be trained if you want to get really, really detailed and really specific. And I think that's, that's the difference with this work compared to like Reiki or EFT or something like that. They're all great and they all serve its purpose, but this is really honing in.
00:37:44
Kate
And I just think that takes people practice and knowledge and awareness and that type of thing.
00:37:47
Darshna Patel
Yeah. Yeah.
00:37:48
Kate
But yeah, we all could do this. We really could.
00:37:52
Darshna Patel
Yeah. So how come the processing time takes so damn long?

Processing and Energy Layers

00:37:56
Darshna Patel
I've always wondered about that.
00:37:58
Kate
I know you're always in processing jails for long.
00:38:00
Darshna Patel
I'm always like, what the fuck?
00:38:03
Kate
I think it it depends on what kind of session you have. but But since we've been doing the bulk releases, people typically need 25 to like 30 plus days. And I think it's because we're releasing a significant amount of energy. So when we do the bulk release,
00:38:18
Kate
It's not just there's these four parts of a belief system, negative programs, limiting beliefs, a faulty core belief and a faulty core identity. And I decode all of that. But if we don't do the bulk release, we're just releasing like that one negative program.
00:38:31
Kate
When we do the bulk release, we're releasing every matching negative program that you've ever had in your life from conception to now. Well, shit, that's a lot, you know, especially like our deep, hardcore, like our real core struggles.
00:38:45
Kate
You know, that's a lot. So I think that's why, because it's not just like it's a one and done, it's layers upon layers that are going and being, having to be transmuted and our body can only transmute so much.
00:38:57
Kate
So obviously our subconscious is going to protect us when we release. And so it's going to release what we can handle each day.
00:39:02
Darshna Patel
Right.
00:39:04
Kate
And so that takes time.
00:39:06
Darshna Patel
Interesting. I also wondered about this because I know in the beginning, like I would, we know when we had finished, I was just like, that's it.
00:39:07
Kate
Yeah.
00:39:13
Darshna Patel
Like it's done. It's gone forever. And it's just like, I didn't really feel anything.
00:39:14
Kate
Yeah.
00:39:16
Darshna Patel
Right. But then like, I've noticed this pattern within like a few days, i will feel like some type of like emotion or some type of thing that like kind of basically makes me feel the thing again, like the, the pain again.
00:39:17
Kate
Yeah. Yeah. Mm-hmm.
00:39:32
Darshna Patel
And then I'll notice like after that, like the period of time where I just don't really feel like anything for the most part, like it's it's not as like constant.
00:39:32
Kate
yeah
00:39:42
Darshna Patel
Right.
00:39:43
Kate
who
00:39:43
Darshna Patel
So like, how does that, why is that? Like, have you ever had somebody where they just didn't feel anything and it still worked?
00:39:51
Kate
Sure. Yeah, that's.
00:39:54
Darshna Patel
How do we get people to believe that? Like, it's just.
00:39:56
Kate
I know well and that's the hard part, because like it's true, I mean, there's everybody processes different.
00:39:56
Darshna Patel
Yeah.
00:40:01
Kate
And like I've told you before, and after your own sessions, like you're going to process different every session we have just depends on where your energy is at the moment and like what's in your field. But I've had people who. have gone to sessions and they were like, I didn't, I didn't feel tired.
00:40:15
Kate
I didn't feel weepy. I didn't feel like I felt nothing, you know, like even some people will feel more calmer or relaxed, you know, after a session, they're like, I felt literally nothing.
00:40:23
Darshna Patel
Wow. see.
00:40:25
Kate
But I think that what I've noticed, the pattern I've noticed is those clients that I have that come back again that didn't feel anything, by the time we get to their second or third session, they do start to feel processing. And I always wonder if their body was just kind of like protecting them a little as they were processing through.
00:40:43
Kate
and then once they were like, okay, I'm going to try this again, like we got to deeper layers. So they got to release some stuff that was a little bit harder to release. And then I think that's...
00:40:51
Darshna Patel
i see
00:40:53
Kate
yeah
00:40:53
Darshna Patel
does that Does that have to do all with like having safety in the body? Like, like you're like the relation, like what does that have to do with that? Like with people that are not.
00:41:02
Kate
I think safety is a big thing. I think it's where your energy is too. I think it's where your frequency is and how imbalanced or balanced you are. I mean, at the end of the day, like we're all imbalanced.
00:41:12
Kate
I don't ever want anyone to feel bad when I like, well, you're yeah like, it's just like, if you were, I'd be like, okay, Jesus, like, awesome.
00:41:14
Darshna Patel
Yeah, no one's like 100% healed.
00:41:21
Kate
Nice to meet you. You know, like it's not going happen. Even he had imbalances. So, you know, it's one of those things where, I don't know, I think, shoot, I lost my train of thought. oh we What was I saying?
00:41:35
Kate
It'll come to me.
00:41:37
Darshna Patel
It's circling back somehow.
00:41:39
Kate
Somehow it'll circle back. don't know, I lost my train of thought, girl.
00:41:41
Darshna Patel
I think what I was saying was like something around like, um, how do like, like the part where like people feel and don't feel, but like, does that have to do with the safety in the body?
00:41:53
Darshna Patel
Like that person having like feeling safe in their body versus them not like trusting their something to do with safety and trust.
00:41:53
Kate
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:41:59
Kate
Right. Thank you. for I think safety helps for sure. But you don't have to have that, you know, because at the end of the day, like the energy is going to go no matter what.
00:42:12
Kate
That energy is gone. Whether you believe it to be gone or not, it is gone, you know, and that.
00:42:17
Darshna Patel
Oh, thank God. that I think that's a big piece.
00:42:18
Kate
ema Yeah.
00:42:20
Darshna Patel
That's a big piece for everything.
00:42:20
Kate
and what like Yeah. It's like, you could look at me and be like, Hey, you are full of shit. And I'd be like, cool, that's fine. That energy is still gone. You know? um I think too, sometimes people,
00:42:33
Kate
will do if they feel safer in their body, I think that it processes a little easier. Also hydration is huge. It's funny to me that hydration plays such a big part, but if people aren't hydrated enough as they're processing, it can hurt a little bit more.
00:42:48
Kate
If they're hydrated, hydration is what helps the energy flow.
00:42:49
Darshna Patel
Why?
00:42:52
Kate
I don't know. It's something about the way that you process. There's people that I haven't been able to work on because they didn't drink enough water that day. And so I'll be like,
00:43:02
Darshna Patel
Wait, that's interesting.
00:43:03
Kate
Yeah. Yeah. And then there's people who feel awful when they process and, and they, they've like mistakenly thought, Oh, well I drank this like tea and I drank my coffee and I'm like, no, you need water to help.
00:43:15
Darshna Patel
Water.
00:43:16
Kate
with her
00:43:18
Darshna Patel
Yeah, thank God I love water, because I drink water all the time.
00:43:18
Kate
Yeah. It's just, I know. Right.
00:43:23
Darshna Patel
ah
00:43:24
Kate
I know. I know.
00:43:25
Darshna Patel
That is so interesting. Is there, like, has there ever been someone that you worked with that just like, that just was super skeptical?
00:43:27
Kate
That is.
00:43:38
Darshna Patel
Or like, you know, just wasn't and then like, what was the journey like? yeah I think because I just feel like I don't know about other people, maybe the people in my community are a little bit more open.
00:43:49
Darshna Patel
I hope that they are because I'm very open. But a lot of people aren't open.
00:43:52
Kate
Yeah. Yeah.
00:43:55
Darshna Patel
in general Like they don't believe yeah that it that that's possible.
00:43:55
Kate
Yeah. Oh, yeah. Right.
00:43:59
Darshna Patel
so like, or they don't believe like even some of the beliefs that came up for me, I was like, Oh my god, like, what the fuck?
00:44:00
Kate
Yeah.

Client Experiences and Results

00:44:06
Darshna Patel
I even know I had this, right?
00:44:07
Kate
Mm-hmm.
00:44:08
Darshna Patel
Have you ever had any like people like that? And like how did you like work with them that were skeptical?
00:44:15
Kate
i Yeah, I've had a few, my brother being one. um and yeah yeah, there's there's two people that stand out in my mind the most. Um, one, I'll give you an example of my brother and then I'll tell you about the other one. So with my brother, it was while I was going through my certification and you have to have like a really rigorous portfolio so that by the time you get done, you feel really confident in doing sessions because you've done so many over the three certifications.
00:44:41
Kate
So my brother was having awful neck pain, like neck pain, neck stiffness. He didn't want to go to the chiropractor. He was going to the doctor. Nothing was helping. And I'm like, listen, I need somebody for my portfolio. Can I work on you? he's like, absolutely. But he didn't believe in it. And I knew he didn't believe in it. He's very science minded. And he felt this was very woo woo.
00:45:01
Kate
So I did a session on him. By the end of the session, it was a distance session. So he was going about his life. And I was doing the session. By the end of the session, his neck pain, gone.
00:45:11
Darshna Patel
Wait, what? No way.
00:45:11
Kate
Gone.
00:45:13
Kate
Gone.
00:45:13
Darshna Patel
it remain gone?
00:45:14
Kate
Yeah. And so, and his stiffness, it remained gone. The stiffness was still there, but the pain was gone. So I was like, okay, we got one layer gone.
00:45:24
Kate
Yeah. And so for him, once he physically felt the processing, he was like, oh, there's something to this. The other example, I know it was wild.
00:45:32
Darshna Patel
Holy sh...
00:45:35
Kate
Like he's my best story because he was so, he wasn't like, it's not like he was unsupportive, but he was just like, okay, you know, like,
00:45:41
Darshna Patel
It's magic!
00:45:43
Kate
And he's like, holy shit, I can, it's like the pain. So the other one was the a husband of the woman I was, was, because she was coming to me and she was like, my husband's gotta to come.
00:45:54
Kate
And he was like, so honest. It was adorable. He's like, I don't know what this is, but whatever. And what got him to buy into it was when I like decoded all the energies, when I decoded all the energies, he, um, the dates resonated with him.
00:46:11
Kate
the certain experiences that I was intuiting, he's like, oh shit, this is so, there's something to it. And then he felt better, you know, within like the next 12 hours. Cause a lot of times people leave sessions and they feel calmer, they feel lighter, you know, that type of thing. So he felt the physical effects as well, but it was like kind of the information in the physical. Yeah.
00:46:32
Darshna Patel
okay so we're gonna get a little bit beauty over here could this help somebody with like let's say they were seeing white hairs for their hair like you can help them reverse that could you help people reverse like weight loss stuff or like um could you help people with that or like youth maybe even like you know reversing age stuff with this
00:46:36
Kate
Yeah.
00:46:55
Kate
you You can in the sense that this will release the emotional energy that's causing those things. So let's say like white hair, that's not listening to our intuition, right? We know that on an energetic level.
00:47:07
Kate
That can come up in your energy session with me because there's limiting beliefs we have around our intuition. Or for example, like wrinkles in the skin or anything like that.
00:47:19
Kate
We can also, you know, let's say it's like ah something in your forehead. Well, we know that energetically, I know that's how you're thinking about how people perceive you, right? Well, we can decode energies through emotion, body, and belief code that are causing you to be kind of more aware and influenced by what people think of you. When we release those, then you don't worry about what people think of you.
00:47:43
Kate
Then those lines go away. So it can be done. could be The only thing is it's not like you're directly like take away the wrinkle, but you're getting to that route. And that's where that five month container is good because that's what we like.
00:47:55
Kate
We get to the root and the reflection of stuff and that I think makes it more powerful.
00:47:57
Darshna Patel
Interesting.
00:48:00
Kate
Yeah.
00:48:01
Darshna Patel
And I feel like this could also apply for people that are on a weight loss or I call it weight, weight release, weight release journey.
00:48:06
Kate
Yep. Yep. Awesome. Yes.
00:48:09
Darshna Patel
and I know it's a little with weight release, it's a little bit more intricate than just what's the main thing. Cause there's so many different, you know, areas and stuff like that.
00:48:18
Kate
ne Yeah.
00:48:19
Darshna Patel
um But I think it like, I'm just like, holy shit, this could literally be used for so many different ways. Yeah.
00:48:25
Kate
good Yeah. I have a client who is trying to move the needle with her weight loss and all the belief system stuff that came up about not feeling safe in the body, betraying herself, and then like not being motivated to be held.
00:48:36
Kate
Like all this stuff that holds us back energetically, we released and now she's doing better. She's she's doing better.
00:48:42
Darshna Patel
Really?
00:48:43
Kate
Yeah, in terms of just like her nutritional choices, she's like, I'm not going for the sugary stuff. She's like, I don't know what you did. But she's like, oh you know, she's like, I just don't crave it anymore.
00:48:54
Kate
So it's, it's, it's that type of thing.
00:48:55
Darshna Patel
oh God.
00:48:56
Kate
It's not like, yeah, it's like you really get to the root and then it just balances everything else. So your body can be what it wants to be, you know?
00:49:03
Darshna Patel
I feel like starting next year, which we're like, literally right there, I want to start working with you on that.
00:49:09
Kate
Okay.
00:49:10
Darshna Patel
Because I've, you know, i'm I'm healing, like I'm going through a body cleanse right now that I went to it.
00:49:10
Kate
Let's see.
00:49:15
Darshna Patel
It was really interesting. I don't know if I told you about this, but I went to a chiropractor because I'm working on my posture. i had an intuitive, like just pull to work on my posture.
00:49:21
Kate
So cool. Yeah.
00:49:24
Darshna Patel
And then he also does magnet testing. But like what he does is that he has like certain vials with like certain energetic intentions to it.
00:49:35
Darshna Patel
And then he puts a magnet here and a magnet by my feet. And then he like puts it and then he muscle tests me for each thing. And so we figured we found out that I had like um candela or some shit or like protozoa, like I had certain like parasites and stuff like that. So I'm going through like a 21 day body cleanse right now. And it's so interesting how energy even works because And I do feel like your higher self plans this too, because literally when he told me, i looked at the cream puff I had in my car that day. And I was like, I'm just going to eat half of you.
00:50:08
Darshna Patel
and then I have to let you go for for three weeks. Because it's really like, I can't have tomatoes.
00:50:13
Kate
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Mm-hmm.
00:50:14
Darshna Patel
i can like I cannot have a lot of things. But I made that decision. Then I was like, no, we're done. and I'm going to do this. And I'm going to make it fun. and I've literally done genuinely like do not get any cravings anymore, like just right off. And it's only been like a week and a half, like I still have a week and a half left to go. But the the habit that i just had a shift within me, it was just so instant, where I was like, I'm just not that person anymore.
00:50:41
Kate
Yeah, that's interesting. I wonder if that also impacted yesterday's emotions that you were experiencing, you know, because you're purging.
00:50:50
Darshna Patel
Well, this was like a while back. um
00:50:53
Kate
was it? Okay.
00:50:53
Darshna Patel
I believe, yeah, I believe this was before we did our, like honus for me.
00:50:54
Kate
Because I was going to say, I'm purging.
00:50:58
Kate
Yeah.
00:50:59
Darshna Patel
um But yesterday was just like the first round of like that. And I've been a more emotional. Like it's just, they watched wicked the other day and I was just like, at the end with like, I saw the sisterhood in love and I was just like, Oh, this is so beautiful.
00:51:07
Kate
Yeah.
00:51:17
Kate
I know. I've been too. i have been too.
00:51:18
Darshna Patel
Yeah.
00:51:19
Kate
And I think it's also energy releasing because I've been doing a lot like with opening my heart and I'm like, oof, this is great.
00:51:25
Darshna Patel
Oh my god.
00:51:26
Kate
And also I'm crying at Love is Blind and I'm crying at like crazy stuff where I'm like, get it together.
00:51:31
Darshna Patel
Yes.
00:51:33
Kate
It's just, it's the energy that's got to move, you know, so you got to kind
00:51:35
Darshna Patel
Are you for the heart stuff? Are you like, um is it the new modality that you're talking about that you're working on?

Understanding Heart Walls

00:51:42
Kate
So it's, yeah, so it's not, it's not new. It's been there. But it's called heart walls. And they're actually like, they actually are a good thing in the moment. So heart walls basically form when you go through ah grief, heartache, anything that's like really intense and your body just can't process it yet. So what your heart does is it pulls from trapped energies or creates new and it makes a little energetic wall around your heart.
00:52:09
Kate
And so it really protects you in the moment.
00:52:09
Darshna Patel
What?
00:52:10
Kate
Yeah, it's a good thing.
00:52:11
Darshna Patel
Wow.
00:52:13
Kate
The problem becomes when we can't process it and then the heart wall stays up. And so when the heart wall stays up, that can cause ah it can cause physical stuff like neck, shoulder pain, that type of thing. But it also can cause us to feel more disconnected from people, feel more negative, just feel a lot of anxiety, depression. just You just don't feel like like you're with people, but you don't feel like there's a connection with people.
00:52:38
Darshna Patel
Right. Yeah.
00:52:39
Kate
And we all have heart walls, we all have them. But the past two sessions I've done on myself, I'm like, I want to see how many heart walls I have.
00:52:41
Darshna Patel
Right.
00:52:45
Kate
And the amount of inherited heart walls I have was insane. So I've been releasing stuff that I inherited from my mom, my dad, five generations back on my dad's side.
00:52:50
Darshna Patel
Right.
00:52:55
Kate
Like it's just out of our control.
00:52:56
Darshna Patel
Right.
00:52:57
Kate
And the more I release it, the more I feel more present and more whole and more, i just feel more open.
00:52:57
Darshna Patel
right
00:53:06
Kate
i don't know like i feel like i i can take compliments in where i used to not be able to there used to be something that would be like yeah
00:53:11
Darshna Patel
That is such a big thing for me. Yes. i think we did heart walls too, right? For me that came up.
00:53:17
Kate
they i think some came up yeah yeah and and then it depends on what the intentions are for your session you can hone right in on them or you can just say hey whatever we'll do whatever and and they will come up organically throughout a session but We all have them and they all just, you know, can cause just all sorts of stuff.
00:53:20
Darshna Patel
Right.
00:53:37
Darshna Patel
Yeah. So, so what does it look like to process it in a healthy way to avoid having so many?
00:53:38
Kate
Yeah.
00:53:46
Darshna Patel
What does that look like?
00:53:47
Kate
In terms, oh, like so that when you do after you have that long.
00:53:49
Darshna Patel
Like when that happens? Yeah, like you said, if we don't process then like, you know, but then how can we what does that look like to process it so that we don't create so many of them?
00:53:54
Kate
Yeah.
00:53:59
Kate
I honestly think it's physically having to feel the emotion, cry, work it out somatically. Like I think a lot of why energy gets trapped specifically in the heart wall is because we don't somatically move.
00:54:13
Kate
We try not to cry in front of other people. Like, you know how it is. You start to cry and you're like, oh, sorry. And then it's like, well, shit, why we apologizing? You know, but it's that kind of stigma.
00:54:22
Darshna Patel
Not me anymore. even cried at a cafe the other day.
00:54:25
Kate
Yeah. Yeah.
00:54:27
Darshna Patel
i wasn't crying out loud, but I was just like, and no one paid attention. No one, like, I just, no one fucking cared.
00:54:34
Kate
Right. Everyone's just living their own life. Yeah. But if we don't like even like anger and overwhelm, if we don't move our bodies and we don't get that energy out so that it can transmute, I think that's a lot of the reason why things get stuck as a heart wall. I really do.
00:54:49
Darshna Patel
Interesting.
00:54:49
Kate
Also, if we're if we're imbalanced, it takes a while for it to go. So it's so that's the other thing, too.
00:54:55
Darshna Patel
Interesting.
00:54:57
Kate
Yeah. Yeah.
00:54:58
Darshna Patel
Something that I've been doing recently is like whenever I go to the gym or like I love moving my body. And so whenever I do anything like that, I do set the intention to like release any stuck emotions and energy that's in my body that's not in alignment for like my soul path or whatever.
00:55:10
Kate
Yeah.
00:55:14
Darshna Patel
Does that like... Does that count? Like, because I tell myself to do it subconsciously so that I'm not like, literally in the gym crying or like, whatever. I would if it if that comes up, but usually it doesn't.
00:55:28
Darshna Patel
And somehow I just like trust that that's happening, right? Is that like, how it still works like that? Like, we could still do that even if it's like, you know, crazy emotions? Yeah.
00:55:41
Kate
Absolutely. i think it's all intention. i think, I think, yeah, there's some physical part to it, depending on the severity and like how deep the emotion is in this situation. But if, if,
00:55:53
Kate
And any any energy works in tension. So if you intend for it to move as you're working out, it's just going to go. It's just going to go.
00:55:59
Darshna Patel
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
00:56:00
Kate
And the fact that you trust it, it's gone. Like it's moving. It's transmuted. It's when we have that doubt that that's when it gets wonky and it might not actually work.
00:56:10
Kate
But you have such trust in yourself and your intentions are so strong and like so intentional, for lack of a better word, that it's gone. Yeah, that's super helpful.
00:56:19
Darshna Patel
yeah
00:56:20
Kate
Mm hmm.
00:56:20
Darshna Patel
I mean, and honestly, I feel like with this trust piece, like trust is still a big thing for me, like my intuition. And when I started doing it, all I would do is just use my my yes and no's with my body, like just intuitively checking of like, did it work?
00:56:35
Darshna Patel
yeah And I'll get a yeah. And I'm like, okay, I guess it worked, you know, because I know my intuition doesn't lie. So that's just how I started like training myself to do it. um But there's always exceptions to the rule, right? Because like,
00:56:47
Darshna Patel
I literally do a lot of energy work myself. And when I went to go see Wicked, you know, I, I, you know, cleared the energy of the room. I did all my like stuff and I still ended up having some like like negative energy on me after it.
00:57:01
Kate
Yeah.
00:57:02
Darshna Patel
But it was when I asked intuitively, it was because I like got emotional. And so my shield, energetic shield came down and that's when I was like vulnerable to like, you know, get all that on me.
00:57:06
Kate
Yeah. Yeah.
00:57:12
Kate
So far.
00:57:13
Darshna Patel
um but I obviously I clear right away. But interesting, interesting, interesting.
00:57:19
Kate
So
00:57:20
Darshna Patel
My girl, this was amazing. We're coming up about an hour and I'm like, I don't want to take too much of your time.
00:57:23
Kate
far.
00:57:26
Darshna Patel
I feel like I definitely have a better understanding of belief and emotion code, like technically belief code.
00:57:31
Kate
good
00:57:33
Darshna Patel
um way more than I did before. And just the appreciation for it. Because like, I just feel like, yes, even though it's annoying that it takes so long for each intention to like fully, you know, I do feel like healing compounds. And I feel like, you know, from the beginning, when I came to to where I am now, like, I do feel like you know, a lot that has transmuted for me.
00:57:58
Darshna Patel
And there are certain things that do come up where I don't maybe it's my higher self, like the other day, like good enoughness came up for me again, and we worked a lot around that.
00:58:05
Kate
Yeah.
00:58:06
Darshna Patel
And so, you know,
00:58:07
Kate
yeah
00:58:09
Darshna Patel
I just trust that it's always going to keep compounding. Like the wholeness piece is a really big thing that we're working on. So i'm I'm so excited to like see end the year and see like where I'm at with that. um But I do want to like, I know we mentioned it during the, the um interview today, but I do want to, if there's anything that like two things, if there's anything that, is there anything that you want to share with everybody that may not be aware of this stuff that may just be like,
00:58:39
Darshna Patel
Like what? Like, I don't get it or anything that you want to share from the heart with everybody around what we talked about today and just this work.
00:58:49
Kate
Yeah, sure. I mean, I think for anyone who's really doubting it and not sure, would love to have a conversation with you because there's so many examples I could share just of my own journey. This work truly saved my life. Like I wouldn't have be here physically on this planet if it wasn't for this work. That's how much it helped me. And so for anyone out there that's like doubting or they don't think it's the right fit for them,
00:59:15
Kate
talk to me because I would be so happy to just share my story. And now I have so many client stories of how it's helped because for me, i just, I hate seeing anyone suffer and to know that this is so easy. and so inclusive, like if anyone could benefit from

Kate's Transformation and Outreach

00:59:34
Kate
it. Like, I just, I feel like everyone should give it a whirl.
00:59:37
Kate
Cause girl, we're all unbalanced. We're all just walking around this marble and balanced as hell and just trying to do our best.
00:59:43
Darshna Patel
I know. But the next the next thing I'm working on is how is my imbalance good enough? You know what i mean? Like how is even my bare minimum good enough?
00:59:49
Kate
Yeah.
00:59:51
Darshna Patel
Like how is it all enough? And so that's always, that's been like the big thing for me. um Amazing. I honestly really felt that. Like I really, I was like tearing up a little bit because you just got me open, girl.
01:00:01
Kate
Yeah.
01:00:02
Darshna Patel
Like I've literally been so emotional. Something happened yesterday.
01:00:06
Kate
Yeah.
01:00:08
Darshna Patel
I was just, I don't know. feel like a I feel I feel, yeah, I love to know where people can find you and work with you. And I know that i just want you to kind of share again, like just the the rise to release program.
01:00:22
Darshna Patel
We do have a special code for everybody that is interested in joining. Honestly, when I looked at the pricing and I looked at the offer, I was like, Kate is just so generous, man.
01:00:33
Darshna Patel
Like you're just so generous compared to like, the the potency of the work that you do. And then like, versus all these other things that I personally tried that I'm aware of like, this is what I want to deliver in my brand, in my world.
01:00:44
Kate
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
01:00:49
Darshna Patel
And to you guys is like the best of the motherfucking best, like underrated talent. And also like pricing is subjective, but for the best motherfucking price and deal. And like just the best offer ever to my people. And like,
01:01:04
Darshna Patel
the best of the best because everyone deserves that everyone deserves to give themselves the opportunity to work with the best and i do feel like you are that and it obviously shows because you're very like confident in what you do you love what you do and it's it shows in your work and in like the way that you talk about it um so yeah feel free to share everything just give us like a little breakdown again and then i will be putting in the description box below it'll be 150 her program I'm using my code Darsh, D-A-R-S-H.
01:01:19
Kate
Yeah.
01:01:38
Darshna Patel
Everything will be in the description box. You guys do you want to like work with her, reach out to her, ask her any questions that you have. But yeah, share with us what you are offering again.
01:01:48
Kate
Yeah.
01:01:48
Darshna Patel
just as a reminder.
01:01:48
Kate
Yeah. So I do the one-on-one sessions. I think the best bang for your buck though, like you said, is the release to rise program. So definitely check that out. You can check it out on my website, Kate Patra.com.
01:02:00
Kate
Um, and socials, Instagram, Tik TOK, or just Kate.Patra. And if you want to learn more, that's where you go. That's where I'll do stories and different videos explaining things. And then you can always reach out to me via email, Kate at Kate Patra.com.
01:02:13
Kate
So I'd be happy to answer anybody's question, hop on a call, you know you name it, because want to make sure that...
01:02:17
Darshna Patel
Yeah. And I also will say, i also will say like, yes, you have your one on one sessions. But if you truly want like those motherfucking results where it's like, if you're gonna do something like you're gonna make it the best for yourself, like you're not gonna half ass it because you're you want to receive the most benefit out of it.
01:02:36
Darshna Patel
Then I do recommend joining Kate's program just just because you're going to need the physical tools. You're going to need that physical integration. I still do believe that like without that, like it's going to be half of the results that you would get.
01:02:50
Darshna Patel
Like you'll still get the results, but it it's not going to be as potent
01:02:51
Kate
Yes.
01:02:53
Darshna Patel
And it's not going to be as efficient unless you do, you know, receive that support. For me, like, we've been in the same kind of world together. So like, I do have access to energy work and like all the physical tools and stuff like that. So it's easier for me. But for anybody that's like not into that hasn't trained their intuition that hasn't like, you know, learn energy work and done all of that, like,
01:03:16
Darshna Patel
it is important if you're gonna do this I actually recommend just working with Kate on the with the program that she has because you're going to receive the support that you need to receive that full transformation because it's not just like yes we release but it's not just like a one and done it's like it is a process and that's why i know you created this program with that intention of like we're not just here for quick results.
01:03:29
Kate
okay yeah
01:03:40
Darshna Patel
Like we're here for a long lasting transformation and you're going to need those tools that she will give you with her intuitions, always spot on badass. Like, ah um, so yeah, I just wanted to mention that piece.
01:03:54
Darshna Patel
Cause it's, yeah, it's going to be, it's, I think honestly, everyone should start there with you.
01:04:01
Kate
I do too, because i think I think it's a better deal, to be quite honest. Because if you don't have the physical tools, the energy work is going to work, but you might need more sessions. If you bring in the physical tools, you might not need as many energy sessions.
01:04:13
Kate
So for me, it's like, why not respite?
01:04:13
Darshna Patel
yeah next fight
01:04:14
Kate
You owe it to yourself to feel better as fast as possible. And don't we all want that?
01:04:19
Darshna Patel
yes easy breezy only he's easy my three favorite like love language words are like easy efficient and effortless
01:04:19
Kate
you know Because life should be worth living. That's right. That's right.
01:04:30
Kate
That's why we get along so well.
01:04:32
Darshna Patel
Yep. All right, my love. Thank you so much for joining us and just sharing all your wisdom and all your knowledge. Guys, hit her the fuck up because I'm telling you, like, five months in, I'm literally going to be, like, working with you, like, for the whole fucking year or, you like, forever, honestly.
01:04:51
Darshna Patel
It might be, like, until my higher self's like, you're done, bitch.
01:04:51
Kate
Good. I'll
01:04:54
Darshna Patel
You don't need it.
01:04:55
Kate
let you know.
01:04:55
Darshna Patel
I'm like, I still do.
01:05:01
Darshna Patel
All right, guys.
01:05:01
Kate
Mm-hmm.
01:05:01
Darshna Patel
Thank you for tuning in and I'll catch you guys in the next episode. Bye.