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Top 5 of 2020 and more delays
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We talk about our favorite Horror movie and TV shows from 2020 plus news and more delays
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Introduction and Top 5 Media
00:00:03
Speaker
Ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls, die in times here. Welcome to Brighton.
00:00:28
Speaker
Alright, welcome to Fight Central. I'm Kevin Dock and I'm back here again with Brandon Keck and we are going to talk our- I was going to say my full fucking name. Do you want me to start over again? No, no, no. Why don't you just give out my address? I don't know your address. These are the times of day I'm not going to be home.
00:00:52
Speaker
It's in Jersey somewhere. I'm a Cali. This is this is what we're doing. Well, I'm out in the middle of the fucking woods. It doesn't really matter. Anyway, we're going to do our top 10 or sorry, top five movies and TV shows from 2020. And I also have some news that about projects have been delayed again because of, you know,
00:01:15
Speaker
things going on.
The Rise and Fall of Quibi
00:01:31
Speaker
They didn't go bankrupt, but they shut down. Yeah, they should. Well, they had very ambitious goals, I believe. Yeah. They wanted by a certain time to have like X amount of million users. And I think the they only had like 500 people that were signed or 500,000, not 500.
00:01:49
Speaker
It's like something like four to five hundred thousand and they were projecting like three to four million like that's what their target was so yeah I think they just they sold out right like yeah they they ended up just shutting down and then uh they were putting everything up for bid and then uh Roku the uh like I didn't know they uh had a streaming thing going on but they bought
00:02:11
Speaker
of the rights and $100 million deal. They didn't announce when they were going to start streaming it, but all the horror stuff, like the 50 states of right is supposed to come to equibi and it's all going to be free. There's going to be commercials, but it's still going to be free. So that's pretty good. I just like, I wonder, like I would think that the person like that had set up those projections is never going to work again.
00:02:37
Speaker
How did you either overvalue or how did you underestimate? Their set was to have like, it was something like, it was like five or six million, wasn't it? Yeah, I remember.
00:02:51
Speaker
Yeah, it was like the target was like to have like five or six million users. And I don't think they got the five hundred thousand. I think it was like four hundred and ninety. Like, how did you fuck up like where? Like, you know, I mean, like you didn't have deals like set up like you didn't have like clear projections from like experts. I like work like like that's fucking crazy. They didn't think the well, they started the last thousand users. Yeah.
00:03:19
Speaker
They started last April and I think the problem was the pandemic kind of kept everyone's home. So nobody was like, cause it was supposed to be here. You watch it, like on the go and stuff like that. So that didn't help at all. But yeah, I think they were a little overambitious and they spent a lot of money getting all these huge names to come in and do things. And then, uh, yeah, it just didn't really work out. Kiefer Sutherland, he made that thing. It was kind of like 24, I think.
00:03:43
Speaker
Yeah, it was the Fugitive remake. Yeah, Fugitive. I mean, breaking up a full-length movie into 10-minute segments, I don't know. I just never saw that as something like being realistic. Like, you know what I mean? Like, even if I was, I mean, I get like, watch it when I'm driving on the interstate and like, there's not a lot of traffic or something. Every time you come up to a stop sign or a traffic light, I don't know.
00:04:09
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but yeah i guess like you're in the doctor's office waiting room and you want to be able to see like the 10 minute like mark gave it that you're fulfilled like you're getting to the end of what we put out this week like you know i mean you don't have to watch five minutes of the movie in the doctor's office you know i mean and like you know you're fulfilled we've given you your fix that's your yeah that i'm sorry that never fly
00:04:36
Speaker
I mean, I don't like waiting a week to watch a 30 minute episode of something like, yeah, forget waiting a week for a 10 minute episode. But Roku is supposed to play everything. Like, yeah, they're supposed to play it all as like one movie, but like, it's gonna there's gonna be commercials in there since it's free. So
00:04:53
Speaker
that's much better. I'll wait till that comes out than ever getting Quibi. I was never going to get that anyway. I don't care what you threw my face. I mean, it's just, I don't know. I thought it was a pretty fucking silly idea. The point I was just trying to bring to it and I know I'm side barring on this a little bit. It's just like, that's just insane that they got it so wrong. Yeah.
00:05:15
Speaker
I know i mean it wasn't even close like who thought that that was a good fucking idea like i'd really like to meet like the brain wizards that like sat down and pitched this to someone and got those investors like to say yeah we think this is going to work like i just i don't know it's just fucking crazy to me fuck up that bad
Upcoming Films and Nicolas Cage
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Speaker
But, uh, the first thing that we got, uh, coming up is going to be the, uh, Joe Bob Briggs, uh, put a spell on you, uh, or sorry, put a spell on Valentine's special. It's a, I thought it was going to be put a spell on you, like, um, fucking.
00:05:53
Speaker
Uh, I can't remember the guy did it and Marilyn Manson remade the song. Yeah. It's fucking awesome. But, uh, yeah, I thought you were going to say Joe Bob, right? Yeah. Yeah. If he did a cover that he's doing a special, it's coming on the shutter, uh, on February 12th, Friday. So right before that, I don't know what they're playing yet. So I'll be looking forward to that. So I like how he's doing a couple new things every, uh, couple.
00:06:18
Speaker
I actually met him at a drive-in, at a Joe Bob Briggs drive-in event we went to, so I got an action figure signed by him and shit. It was pretty cool. It's an action figure of him? Yeah, yeah. I'll have to show it to you. I didn't know he had action figures. Yeah.
00:06:36
Speaker
I'll have to show it to you, but that's for another time. But then the next thing coming up also on February 12th is the new Nicolas Cage Willy's Wonderland, where it looks like he battles some possessed animatronics. It looks fucking insane. It's like a Five Nights at Freddy's.
00:06:54
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This is just a good like i was perfect for the genre like he's perfect like for the pandemic like when i think back of like the pandemic like hopefully it will be in like my rearview mirror like at some point in my life like and i think of like the pandemic i just kind of think of like nick cage is expressionless face.
00:07:19
Speaker
and that just like from that to like the extreme uh expressions him no emotion staring into a mirror and picture that like in the fucking like on a bus like that's just what i think about it yeah no expression the trailer for this looks insane and i'm excited for it i think he's been doing some great things in horror recently so
00:07:44
Speaker
He has been doing a lot of horror. I will say that he has been doing a lot. And like I said, like, you know, I didn't particularly like him in it, but like, I really respected Mandy. Like that was some of the most ambitious film making that I've seen in a while. Like, you know what I mean? So like, you know, I'm glad that I'm sure he attracted a lot of viewers to that.
00:08:08
Speaker
Yeah, Mande was fantastic.
Streaming Wars and Theater Releases
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Speaker
Then we've got the return of Walking Dead. Those bonus episodes comes the 28th to AMC. Then coming to HBO Max on March 26 is going to be Godzilla versus Kong. Because I don't know if you heard that HBO Max Warner Brothers kind of announced that everything that was on the slate this year is going to come same day as on HBO Max as it is in theaters. And Legendary blew up because they were like, yeah, we put up most of the money for this shit.
00:08:38
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So I guess they can't do an agreement and, uh, and Godzilla is going to be on HBO max now. So I didn't know about Godzilla per se, but, um, you know, you had told me about the HBO max thing. Um, when we were talking about like AMC tanking, you knew obviously about it before I did, but I walked into it after you had told me a little bit about it. And I don't know how the fuck did they cut that deal where they were going to be able to do that.
00:09:08
Speaker
Like that gave them the rights to pretty much like day one, anything for a limited time. Right. I mean. Yeah. Everything that comes on HBO max when it comes out at the same time of the years only stays there for a month. And then it goes to VOD. Yeah. So it's like, I guess, like they can bring subscribers. I guess when you own WB, you tech, they technically own legendary and you own HBO max. You can just do what you want with your films at that point.
00:09:39
Speaker
Okay, so you're just going up right up to the top like, you know, like News Corp owns like Fox News shit like that. Like once you once you're at the very top, you just be like, well, whatever. Now I'm going to change our policies. Yeah. Profit us.
00:10:01
Speaker
The rules aren't the same anymore. I remember a lot of the filmmakers came out really mad about this, like Denny Vanu, who's doing the new Dune. I know he was real pissed about this. I think right now, I think... I've heard widespread criticism of this, but I also know a lot of the people that like it.
00:10:20
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Yeah, everyone's staying home to us. But I'm hoping to see Dune in theater. So luckily, that doesn't come out till like November or December. So we'll see on that one. They might even push that back. I think they're trying to they really want to release that in theater. So yeah, unfortunately for us, well, I mean, or fortunately, but like where I'm where I live,
00:10:41
Speaker
Well, there are very few movie theaters, but the ones that exist like the AMC's are closed indefinitely. So even if I wanted to go to the theater, I don't have the resources here.
00:10:56
Speaker
But they're all open in L.A., like movie theaters. Nothing's nothing's opened out here. I was going to say, like, you know, I heard something on the news about one in 10 people having the corona. Yeah, it's it's it's bad. No, there are some states I heard like Illinois was opening.
00:11:15
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more theaters this month or next month. I'm sure everything's open like Arkansas. I just was thinking like, I didn't think I'm like. And in other countries where they handled it better and are opening things back up again.
00:11:31
Speaker
They'll be able to see it. So like Wuhan, the theaters like Wuhan. I know Australia is, I think they had zero cases recently and New Zealand had zero cases. So there are countries doing well. I just found out about the pandemic like last week.
00:11:50
Speaker
No, they shut down in like pockets. So instead of shutting the whole country down, it's like wherever they have cases, they'll just shut down that section. So they've been doing really well. Plus, they pay people to stay home and they don't, you know, give everyone the run around and make everyone suffer.
Game Announcements and Horror Franchises
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Speaker
But yeah, anyway, the next movie after Godzilla vs Kong coming to HBO Max is going to be the new Mortal Kombat, which is going to be April 16th.
00:12:18
Speaker
I feel like that's going to be awesome or it's going to be really fucking bad. Yeah, it's going to be either really cool or really terrible. I don't think it's going to be like, oh, yeah, it was all right. You know, it wasn't great. It wasn't terrible. Like, I think it's going to be either great or terrible. Yeah, I think we need to make sure we go in with really low expectations. But that'd be best.
00:12:46
Speaker
I do have a game on here, the Resident Evil Village, which they just had a huge thing about. Yeah, I just heard about that yesterday. My buddy sent me a message about it. It comes out May 7th, and it's going to be a sequel to Resident Evil 7, so it'll be the same first person perspective. But then there's also it will include a six player direct sequel to Resident Evil 7. Yeah, that's what it was saying. I love Resident Evil 7. I was telling you like, you know, I don't play that one yet.
00:13:14
Speaker
But Resident Evil is because they just remade Resident Evil 3 like I think a year ago, like Resident Evil does not fuck around. Like they have content coming out like Appcom. Like, you know, I mean, they're just going to keep riding that wave. And for most part, they put out quality shit. Like I didn't like the remake of Resident Evil 3. The original Resident Evil 3 was my favorite of the series when it was first start coming out.
00:13:42
Speaker
But what you would call Resident Evil 7 was awesome. The remake of Resident Evil 2 was fucking amazing. And, you know, so I would have like I have really high expectations for Resident Evil. I did not know that it was a sequel to Resident Evil. Yeah, this is what I just looked up because I missed the whole announcement and I guess they had like demos and stuff, but I missed all that. But they said that this will also include a six player online multiplayer game.
00:14:10
Speaker
Wow, that's interesting. Called Reverse. It's not going to be sold separately, but the online version is going to be a third person perspective. So it's going to be like it's like a separate game than the main game, but it's not really different. It's interesting. It's going to be a sequel because like the last few Resident Evil games like took I mean, yeah, the characters like
00:14:35
Speaker
they developed but like it usually took place like in a totally different area like I think Resident Evil 4 was in Spain, Resident Evil 5 was somewhere in Africa, I never played Resident Evil 6 and Resident Evil 7 was like in a basement in Louisiana which doesn't even make sense because there are no basements in Louisiana but you know that's on to another thing usually
00:15:01
Speaker
Usually, a lot of time, at least in the last few, they're not direct sequels. It was like the first three, I think, were direct sequels. And then it kind of went separately. And that looks like it's going back to a direct sequel. I'm not sure. Was Resident Evil 3 a sequel, Resident Evil 2? I believe so.
00:15:21
Speaker
I can't remember. Resident Evil 4 took place like a while after that in Spain and it was a sequel for the character development but it wasn't like a direct sequel to like you know the previous installment.
00:15:38
Speaker
So, you know, obviously it's a sequel that characters of age and stuff. Resident Evil Zero, I think, was a prequel. Yeah. Resident Evil One. Like, they tried to be real clever and say Resident Evil Zero. Resident Evil Negative One.
00:15:55
Speaker
You hear what I'm saying, right? Yeah, yeah. A lot of times it takes place and I think Resident Evil 7, there were, except for the DLC where Chris comes back, Resident Evil 7 I'm pretty sure was characters that had nothing to do with any other Resident Evil game. Like Resident Evil 7 was like a totally like
00:16:15
Speaker
like a totally original idea. They took the series in like a different direction. Really liked it. Sorry. I'll have to try that one out because I do like first person better than third person. Might be on Game Pass right now. If not, it's been on sale a lot. Like for 20 bucks, it's totally worth it. And you get a free DLC expansion with that. It's free DLC. So totally worth the money. Yeah, I'll have to check that out.
00:16:39
Speaker
Uh, but then, um, uh, I have a question mark next to this one because, uh, I don't know if it's gotten pushed back yet. I haven't heard anything, but it's the, uh, the next Saul movie spiral, the one with Chris Rock. What, what are they up to?
00:16:54
Speaker
I don't know because I don't I think this kind of counts as a spin they have been really secretive like where this takes place in the whole soul universe so I as they want like a really like seven feel to it so I don't know if they're still gonna be traps or it's them hunting the serial killer so it's like less of a it looked up from the trailers or from what I saw it looked like less of a people trying to escape traps and more of like these cops trying to hunt the killer
00:17:24
Speaker
aspect of it in the guy from the salt didn't you like die off in like the third movie or something like that he's died he's had other people that he's you know brought into his you know world to like had like a debate back in like 2012 like
00:17:43
Speaker
it was like saw five was coming out and i'm like jesus christ they're really beating that to death and he's like no man i can't wait for saw five like i'm really looking forward to that i watched i watched a wall that was like eight or nine years ago yeah yeah i mean it's fun just to watch it for the traps past pretty much one i guess but uh
00:18:04
Speaker
yeah it got a little bit too gory for me i would have rather it be more like like a survivor series of like people trying to solve like intricate puzzles and stuff like the stuff that is in there it's just like a room of horror like you know i mean like just you know get through this room while watching pigs have sex and it was like you have to deal with
00:18:29
Speaker
You have to reach your hand into this like huge thing of heroin needles that probably it's just to get the key. It's like, yeah, I'll just, I'll just die. Thank you. Naked woman from freezing in this room. Like there was a thing where they had like this woman and she was like hung naked and like a meat locker and like the guy needed to free her because as soon as he walked in, they start squirting, freezing water on her. So her body was going to shut down.
00:18:59
Speaker
And she was like completely naked, like hung there. I don't remember which one that was. I don't know. It was the guy, the guy who played the traitor in Braveheart. He was like the main character on there. He was like one of the scotch toward that sold out William Wallace. Yeah. He was the main character. Yeah, I think he's talking about who I'm talking about. But anyway, that was the last saw I saw. Yeah. Yeah. That was it for me.
00:19:28
Speaker
But let's see.
Pandemic Delays and Film Releases
00:19:30
Speaker
Here's where I have the actual pushbacks. Quiet Place 2 got pushed back to September 17th. Edgar Wright's new film last night in Soho got pushed back to October 22nd. Quiet Place 2 didn't already come out? No. It was supposed to come out last April. And then it got pushed to this April. And then it got pushed again. I know you saw it. I can tell you it was finished. Why would it be pushed back?
00:19:59
Speaker
Because theaters are closed? Yeah, why wouldn't it just go on to like some streaming service like maybe totally complete they could have released that like what like eight nine months ago, they could have released a bunch of these that they keep pushing stuff back as they want to make the money off I mean you spend the money to make the movie, you might as well you want your returns.
00:20:20
Speaker
but why wouldn't a quiet place too like have come out like this past October like you know I mean like right around Halloween or something like that. I mean if they decide they want to do on VOD but like I don't know it depends on they've probably looked at other places it depends on uh John Krasansky because he produced and directed maybe he wants to release in theaters you know there's a lot of different you know
00:20:43
Speaker
people you got to go through to like decide. No, no, I get that. I just assumed that it was like all going to be centered around what would make them the most money. I assume that that's how it works. And maybe they figure pushing it back to playing theaters is going to make them the most money. Well, man, then like, I don't know, maybe 2023, quiet place part two.
00:21:07
Speaker
Yeah, so like I said, Edgar Wright's new film, October 22nd, the Guillermo del Toro produced Antlers, which was supposed to come out last, like March or April, I think, is now coming out October 29th. Ghostbusters were supposed to come out last July, then this July's got pushed back to November 11th.
00:21:28
Speaker
The new Del Toro directed movie, Nightmare Alley, which actually just finished wrapping last year. So they were able to finish shooting that during the pandemic. That's coming out December 3rd. And the Sony Marvel vampire movie Morbius got pushed to January 21st, 2022. So it got pushed. It's almost like you should list the movies that are on schedule.
00:21:55
Speaker
Like, you know what I mean? It seems like, you know, that would be like the more extreme way to do it. It's just like these are the movies that are like not effective. Like, you know, they're totally on schedule from when the studio said they were going to be released. Like that would just be a list of twenty, twenty two movies. And even those have been getting pushed back because they're pushing back all these movies. So nothing's really on schedule. I was saying, like, there's very, very few things on schedule. Yeah.
00:22:25
Speaker
The only thing that would be like on schedule is the stuff that they've announced that's come into like video on demand or straight to streaming. Like those are the only things you can guarantee right now. Everything else is pushed back. How much of the stuff that's being pushed back would you say in your opinion based on what you've seen is going to not come out at all?
00:22:52
Speaker
Like what what percentage of that do you think that is not going to come out at all. Yeah, the project is going to have to be scrapped.
00:23:01
Speaker
Oh, I mean, everything that I know that's gotten pushed back has been filmed completely, or they're they only have a few things left to film. So like, yeah, this is all stuff that Oh, all right. Yeah, this is all stuff that's complete. This was supposed to come back like last year, they were supposed to release these because they were filmed in like 2019. I know antlers.
00:23:25
Speaker
I know that that was finished, and that has been pushed back a ridiculous ways. Obviously, Quiet Place Part 2. I wasn't sure, like, for example, like, I think John Wick, whatever they're on, like, four or something, I heard, had gotten pushed back a long ways. But they were saying that, like, they had just started filming it, I guess, what I mean, when everything went to hell. Yeah, I think they pushed that back.
00:23:52
Speaker
sorry they pushed that back because they were they wanted to do the matrix uh four first before they did that yeah i forgot about that that's crazy yeah i thought everything was very much resolved in the matrix i i don't know why that's whatever oh sorry we'll see yeah i have no idea but now that's all i have for all the pushback so far those were just announced a lot of those were just announced like this week so
00:24:17
Speaker
I guess everything else, as far as I know, is on schedule, but I doubt it. We'll see how well it goes with everybody, you know, getting vaccinated. And that includes television?
00:24:32
Speaker
I didn't do any of the, uh, I didn't have any pushbacks on the television. As far as I know, all the television stuff is coming out as scheduled so far. I mean, um, I know Castle Rock got canceled, hopefully, uh, at Hulu. So hopefully something, somebody picks that up. And I know Stephen King was starting work on outsider season two. I think he had an ID or whatever for it, but, um, HBO canceled that as well. And I believe he said that they're shopping it around.
00:25:00
Speaker
So we'll see if somebody else picks it up. You didn't happen to run across any news about the Fallout series that we were talking about after how The Mandalorian worked out so great. I think they're still in pre-production on that, so they're still writing because there hasn't been any cast and announcements or anything like that. So there's still an early production on that.
Streaming Services and Paramount Plus
00:25:23
Speaker
I did also hear that Paramount, you know, who does the CBS All Access, they're changing CBS All Access into Paramount Plus, which is gonna like include, you know, everything Paramount, except for, I mean, everything CBS All Access. I appreciate the name change because like I was, when that first, it was very confusing, I'm like, I get CBS. And then I didn't realize that CBS All Access was like,
00:25:51
Speaker
sort of like a separate entity from CBS. I thought it was sort of confusing because I remember them saying, oh, it's coming to CBS. I'm like, I have CBS. I don't have any of this fucking shit. No. Yeah, it was a separate thing. So they're changing it to include Paramount and all the other stuff. But the only thing it's not included in is Showtime. Honestly, if they really want to compete with HBO Max and
00:26:16
Speaker
and Disney, they would just include Showtime and they would call Showtime plus, because I think Showtime is a bigger, well-known name than Paramount. When I think Paramount, I only think of movies, though. I don't think a TV. Yeah, I don't. Well, I don't know. I think Paramount, well, they have the Paramount network, which I'm assuming is a subsidiary. But I would still only think about the movies that they would play on Paramount. Well, Paramount, I mean, I think the name Paramount's been along a lot longer than Showtime has.
00:26:47
Speaker
Yeah, but when you think of TV and movies for streaming services, you would think more shop clarity over like the last 10 years, you've heard a lot more about Showtime. And if you want to compete against HBO Max, you could price it at the same price as HBO Max. And if you include Showtime plus Paramount and CBS and all those, and even if you did like, you know, a free version that didn't include that,
00:27:13
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that didn't include Showtime or you did like, you know, pricing, different pricing plans. Like, I think that would be your best way to compete with HBO Max right now. Paramount, Paramount Network. Sorry, you froze. We'll say that again. Yeah, technology. Yeah. You had said, what did you say that it was called?
00:27:40
Speaker
What Paramount Plus is what's going on. I'm sorry. So you were saying Showtime plus. Yeah, I don't know. That's a difficult, difficult decision. I'm assuming their marketing guys did. And like that's obviously just what they decided to go with. But yeah, I guess over like the last like decade, I would say like Showtime would probably be here.
00:28:04
Speaker
Yeah, it's a it comes out March, March 4th is when they're going to release it and it's going to include Nickelodeon Comedy Central MTV and BET. So I think calling it Showtime Plus or at least if they had changed the name were like, you know, they mentioned like Showtime in the thing like it was called like Paramount Showtime Plus or something like that, like put it in the title. So people are like fully like I don't
00:28:33
Speaker
Yeah, I don't know. Well, whatever. Let's see what happens. Yeah. So yeah, that's all the news I have.
Top Horror Films of 2020
00:28:41
Speaker
So I'm ready to get into our top five for last year, if you are.
00:28:45
Speaker
Yeah. Um, I, I don't have a top five exactly because like, I thought like last year was like a pretty difficult, like, uh, year for horror. And I didn't see, uh, a whole lot. And what I did see, I really didn't like, but why don't you start off with, uh, because you've seen a lot more stuff in the last year. I saw like 40 movies last year. Well, you have to understand too, like I went back to work this year. Like, you know what I mean? Like.
00:29:15
Speaker
I've been working the entire time, so no excuses. I'm just saying things have kind of changed for me in the last year, which has given me a lot less time to do whatever the fuck I wanted, though. You had a lot of time sitting in the woods. Yeah, well, yeah. And I'm getting, well, I'm not going to get into that, but whatever.
00:29:42
Speaker
But yeah, uh, so I've already, I'm, I'm started to keep track of this year already. And I've already watched, uh, I think 17 movies total this year and 15 of those were a horror or sci-fi movies from last year. I haven't watched anything new this year. I think there's only been like one or two movies released so far. So I'm trying to keep track. So I'll have a better idea of what I've watched. So you're saying you've only seen a couple of things that were actually released in 2020?
00:30:10
Speaker
No, I've seen 40 movies that were released in 20, I'm saying I've only seen a couple this year that were released last year. Gotcha. Yeah. Yeah. I'm still catching up on last year. I still haven't seen everything. There's obviously some that I haven't seen that are either not available streaming or I'm not paying for VOD or I'm not that interested in seeing there's movies like the host, which has gotten good reviews, but I don't want to watch a horror movie. That's a zoom call pretty much. I've heard it was good, but I'm not interested in it. So I'm going to pass.
00:30:40
Speaker
That is the premise of it. Yeah
00:30:45
Speaker
It's some like people doing a Zoom call and they're, they, uh, I think do a seance or something and like there's weird shit starts happening. I don't know. I didn't, I'm not interested in it. I don't want to watch a normal activity, but instead of like it happening to like two people, a couple in their house, like it happens to people that are like having like a zoom business conference. Yeah.
00:31:11
Speaker
so somebody on the other side sees like yo man like it looks like you got the same thing going so that's huh yeah i heard it was good though people people say it was really good it was surprising but i'm like yeah that that's nice like yeah but yeah there's a there's at least another i'm still going through my list i think i have about
00:31:40
Speaker
Um, 20 may know actually I have less than that, um, that are available. I have one, two, three, like, yeah, like 12 left. Um, that are, are available on streaming, but then there, I have another like 15 that aren't available streaming that I have on my list. And then I keep finding new ones all the time. So, I mean, I'm never going to be able to see everything, but I've come to that conclusion, but, uh, I did have, I did have a top 10, but I broke it down to like five.
00:32:09
Speaker
So, uh, do you want to start with TV or movies first? Well, let's start with movies. Let me just, you know, like I said, I don't have a couple. Um, and I would say, I said this tough year. Um, I think my number one would be the hunt. Um, I enjoyed it.
00:32:29
Speaker
I also kind of hated it too. Very, very tough for me. But that would be for me, that was probably my favorite horror film of 2020. Yeah, The Hunt. Yeah, when you told me about your top two, I was like, wait, didn't you hate those movies? You did enjoy The Hunt. I remember you saying that.
00:32:57
Speaker
Well, we talked a little bit about in the podcast, and I was sort of anti talking about it, because like, I thought it was like more, it was so politically charged. And like, I don't know, like, I didn't want to get into, like, the hardest sort of a metaphor for like, you know, to just be like, real, like, liberal, like, you know, liberal versus conservative, like, I just,
00:33:24
Speaker
I don't know, like I didn't, I didn't feel of it as like a, you know, conventional horror movie. I, you know, it was just very political and I didn't want to talk about politics on the podcast. Yeah. I mean, so that's why I was like sort of like against it, but yeah, I hated it, but that was like my favorite horror movie of 2020.
00:33:45
Speaker
Uh, my favorite I've talked about before, and I'll continue to talk about it. It's gotta be color out of space with a Nic Cage, uh, H you know, HV Lovecraft. It's on shutter right now. You can go, you can go watch it right now. If you have shutter or AMC plus, you can go watch it. Uh, I highly recommend it. I made sure that everything I picked is either available on a stream of service or is about to be shortly. So.
00:34:09
Speaker
I hooked you up, so you'll be able to watch all these movies. Wait, did you leave stuff out that were not available? Like, was that like a criteria? No. Or be on your top picks? No, I have other ones that are in my top five, but these are still my favorite, I think. I think these would still make my five. You know what I mean? So yeah, Color Out of Space was definitely my favorite of 2020.
00:34:39
Speaker
And I know a lot of other people like that too. I think you should check it out. Just a quick synopsis. I know the only thing I really know is Nick Cage. Nick Cage.
00:34:48
Speaker
But like a farm where he's like raising llamas or something. Alpacas. Alpacas. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But a meteoroid hit. Sorry. Yeah, I do know the premise. And the meteor, I guess, contains like some kind of like alien presence, like alien technology or an alien spirit or something that kind of takes over the land and weird shit starts growing. And there's like sort of like demonic forces about of an alien nature.
00:35:18
Speaker
All right, so I know the premise of it. Yeah, I missed that one. It's definitely. But he's not raising alpacas for the, you know, for the fur or, you know, not the fur, but, you know, their wool, he's raising them for the meat. He thinks it's going to be a huge thing.
00:35:39
Speaker
Yeah, it reminds me of like the there was an episode of Tales from the Crypt that had Judd Nelson and who used to be Superman.
00:35:51
Speaker
Oh, Christopher Reeve. I thought you were going to say, yeah. I thought you were going to say Dean Cain. No, no. It was not, but yeah, they opened up a shop and like they had this thing where they were going to serve like nothing, but
00:36:13
Speaker
Oh, fuck. I can't remember whatever. It's some weird meat, right? Like they decided to serve like, oh, it was squid. They thought squid was going to be like, like it was going to take over state. Yeah. Like, so all they were serving was squid and like ends up where like they're about to go under and Jude Nelson, he like.
00:36:39
Speaker
kills a guy and they start serving human flesh under the pretense of like a special steak.
00:36:47
Speaker
And actually, it doesn't really have a lot to do with that. I don't know, just made me, I'm getting older, my mind wanders. Yeah. Another one that I have on my list, which came out earlier, like a lot of these came out, like I actually saw these in theater because they happened before the pandemic. So I guess they might have stuck with me a little bit more because I got to see them in theaters. But I really liked Underwater. It's available on HBO Max now. The Christian Stewart in the
00:37:17
Speaker
the oceanic, uh, deep sea drilling company that, you know, the disaster happens and then they got to make their way out. And then there's other creatures and stuff. I thought the creature affects the tension. Everything was really good. Like it was supposed to be like based on like what happened in the Gulf.
00:37:36
Speaker
No, it's not based on anything, really. It's it's just a, you know, it's got. Oh, I thought it was based on like what happened with the BP oil spill, but then they put a spin on it where like they open up like like a portal, like to another dimension. No, it's not like a tool who doesn't.
00:37:57
Speaker
It's a deep sea. Yeah, there's a deep sea monster, but it's not like from another portal or anything. It's just something that's been awakened that's been down there the whole time. I had seen like some of the trailer and like I thought like they dug their way into like some like mysterious realm where like, you know, like a creature comes through like, you know, from another dimension or something. I think you're thinking of a Pacific Rim.
00:38:25
Speaker
Maybe, I don't know. Well, South Park also had an episode where they were doing the BP oil thing. And they did. Yeah. All hail. Yeah. So maybe that's what it was. You're just mixing, mixing things together. Like some of a trailer. And that's what I thought. Like I knew there was a creature and shit.
00:38:45
Speaker
You should check it out, man. I thought it kept the tension up pretty well. And it starts off within the first two, three minutes. And then it's just constantly going through. Yeah. I have it on my list. That and everything else, right? Well, that and the Invisible Man are the next two on my list. Now, was that one of your favorites? I did really enjoy it. It did not make my top five, though.
00:39:13
Speaker
on just a note screen rent gave it their top spot on their top 15. So I mean, I thought that was like, yeah, I definitely want to catch that. Um, you know, um,
00:39:26
Speaker
Yeah, I- Oh, you haven't seen that yet? No, I started watching it with, um, I started watching it with the girls, but I fell asleep within the first five minutes. And when, not because the movie was bad, it was just like waiting. Not, you know what I mean? Uh, everybody else stayed up and watched it. And I heard, I heard good things about it. Um, I just never got around to it. So that and Underwater are next on my list.
Recent Films and Foreign Cinema
00:39:55
Speaker
Another one that should be on your list should be VFW, which is on shutter right now. I have it. I have it. Like I have it on the computer. I just haven't. I just haven't watched it yet. Yeah, so the Stephen Lang, William Sadler, Fred Williamson and Martin Cove and it's a group of old ward veterans put their lives on the line to defend a young woman taking shelter at the local VFW post who's on the run from a deranged drug dealer and the relentless army of drug adult punks.
00:40:25
Speaker
I like the sound of that. Yeah, it's very like, it's got a very 80s throwback style like assault on precinct 13. You had told me to get on that like once. Oh yeah. Like you had specifically text to me, have you seen VFW? Like I think that was the text. Like have you seen VFW? I said no.
00:40:45
Speaker
and you sent back, get on it. I have it physically on my computer, it's cued the watch and the VLC. I haven't watched anything in like, I haven't watched any film or television in probably like the last three weeks.
00:41:05
Speaker
So wait no that's not true I watched the Mandalorian so that was I did watch that you had told me to watch it I watched that but that's not in our written that Mandalorian is not really in the purview of like it's sci-fi but it's not that like gritty sci-fi where like there's like intent yeah it's
00:41:27
Speaker
the second i was the second or third episode of uh mandalorian had the giant ice spiders that was kind of hard that was yeah but it's not like star wars it's not like we wouldn't discuss the new star wars thank fucking god we want so i mean i i think i think enough people talk about mandalorian we don't need to yeah yeah i agree
00:41:52
Speaker
But yeah, then one I watched this year that came out in 2020 was the son of Cronenberg, you know, Brandon Cronenberg. Yeah, I'm aware. Yeah, his new movie, Possessor, that made my list. I do have questions about the end that I would have to discuss with you. I don't want to spoil anything.
00:42:17
Speaker
but uh it was it was good. It follows a agent who works for a secret organization that uses brain implant technology to inhabit other people's bodies ultimately driving them to commit assassinations for high paying clients. So it's sort of like this show, Hannah.
00:42:33
Speaker
I watched that this year. That's, again, I mean, it's sci-fi, but it's not really something we were taught. It reminds me of like what they did to the female assassin checks and Hannah. Like they were trying to build them to like, so that they could control them and like they could make them kill. And like, you know, it was like a switch that they would turn on or something.
00:42:53
Speaker
Oh, but this, this one's more of a, this person goes into a machine and then they like use the brain implant in this person to like take over, to take over their body. They were able to completely take over them. Oh yeah. All right. Yeah. That's a little bit more intense than what they did in Hannah. Yeah. Hannah was more of like a brainwashing thing. Yeah. So they use this trip to like basically like go into their mind. Yeah.
00:43:22
Speaker
take full control of them. They were like able to see through their eyes or something. Yeah they have full control over their body and then they commit the murder then they get them to like kill themself or like you know uh suicide by cop or something like that. Yeah. Yeah. So yeah. Oh wow. Yeah that's it's very very interesting and like I'm really digging I saw his first uh film antiviral before this and I'm really liking the uh it's very old school like Cronenberg like he's got I think he's got a bright future ahead of him.
00:43:53
Speaker
I wish I could go into somebody's body, take full control. I would have like half the Senate resign. That'd be awesome. I thought you were going to say, I wish I could just be David Kรถrnenberg's son. No, no, no. I'd have half the Senate resign. Or shit, if Kรถrnenberg gave me my uncle, that'd be cool. That's not where I was going with that.
00:44:21
Speaker
The other film, this was the most anticipated horror movie for May of 2020, and that was Antebellum. But I have on this cast like publicly denounced it. Yeah, I think that one was really interesting because of the trailer. And it was my most anticipated. Yeah. Yeah, it made it really anticipated because then. Yeah. And I heard that Malone girl, isn't it? Who I really like a lot.
00:44:51
Speaker
Jenna Malone. Yeah, yeah, like, so like, I really wanted to say it, like, as a her too. And, um, wow. Yeah, it didn't work. I'm not, I've already talked about in this cast, so I'm not going to get into why I disliked it. But, um, I guess that's sort of my lack of vision, but I thought I, I would mention it.
00:45:12
Speaker
because it was by far like I was really really stoked for that film and uh you know so that's but yeah I haven't seen that much but that was the only other thing I had on everything else was like wishlist type stuff
00:45:28
Speaker
Well, Possessor's going to be on Hulu February 1st, so you'll be able to watch that. Hopefully it's the uncut version, Possessor. Hopefully it's the uncut version because I hear that's the version you need to watch. I'm not even sure I watched the uncut version. I think I did, but I got it off of Amazon.
00:45:46
Speaker
because it was like $1.99 to RAMP, but I don't know if it was the uncut version. It looked like it was, but I don't know. Hopefully it's the uncut version on Hulu. Sometimes I like to look up before I decide which version I'm going to watch first, because sometimes there's people that say, like, you know, watch the original theatrical version, like, don't go for, like, the special edition. Yeah, I prefer that too, but this is what Cronenberg wanted. I always go for whatever the director wants me to see, so that's what I prefer.
00:46:14
Speaker
I love DASPO. It's a very, very intense psychological submarine movie about constraints and claustrophobia and depth charging. There's like 10 different cuts. The one I have, which is apparently the most ultimate, is like five hours
00:46:36
Speaker
And that's it. Yeah, it's like five hours. I thought you had like the seven hour cut or whatever. I think that I think the actual length of the movie is like three hours and 10 minutes like the first thing.
00:46:50
Speaker
If somebody were to ask me about that, I would say, watch like the theatrical version first. And then, you know, if you know, I mean, like, if you're really into it, then check out the five hour. Yeah, I would never start. I don't think what you were talking about was like someone adding two hours. No, this was just like, you know, more gore.
00:47:08
Speaker
to the it's a possessor it's not necessarily like some people think the gore takes away from it takes away from the actual horror and takes away from this story some people don't like this movie i don't know when i when i watch horror i'm a big fan of gore so that's that's those my two favorite things are tension and gore if so i'm not a real big gore i mean look i mean i like you know uh i appreciate it like
00:47:37
Speaker
You know, I mean, dead alive, like can imagine like trying to watch like a son, son, son, sort of. You know, so like for certain movies that like base it around the gore and if the gore is like sort of funny, also like Evil Dead, you know, I mean, a lot Evil Dead, like the gore was so great because it was like funny. And so
00:48:02
Speaker
Yeah, I'm not a real big gore fan in like I said, there's certain movies that incorporate the gore really well. Yeah. Oh, yeah.
00:48:12
Speaker
respect that but like I agree it shouldn't be centered around gore yeah like no but yeah you shouldn't you shouldn't have to cut because of uh gore but yeah i think if you get this right dead alive like there are there are certain well dead alive is just fucking disgusting yeah that's what they you know it is like a horror comedy as well it's not a straight up horror so you're allowed to go and horror comedies are allowed to go i thought it was a documentary that took place i thought it was a documentary it took place in real time
00:48:41
Speaker
You mean that non-narrative documentary about New Zealand? But yeah, the next one I have on my list, I heard a lot of people had liked this one as well. It was straight to Netflix. It was from Spain, the platform. I don't know if you've heard of that. I haven't heard of that at all.
00:49:03
Speaker
Yeah, it's basically a vertical prison system where there's two people per level, and this platform moves from the top level down, and it has enough to feed everybody on it if everyone were to take their share, but clearly it doesn't happen that way.
00:49:19
Speaker
And the, as the platform goes down, you know, less and less food happens until it gets to the bottom. Are they aware that as long as everybody does their own stuff, they could all survive? Some people have figured that because yes, because every, I think every month, uh, they switch levels. So they like, if you were on like a bottom level, you would get a higher level. So like the, they, they figure out that they would have enough, but people, most people don't.
00:49:49
Speaker
give a shit. They're like, Oh, I'm a higher level. I don't know how long I'll be here. So I'm just going to gorge on food. Cause then I might, I might not have any for the next 30 days. So yeah, it was, it was very interesting. I kind of, I kind of really liked that movie. So yeah. Sounds like sort of like the distribution of wealth in a way. Yeah. That's basically what they were going for. It was, it's a lot of that. It's a lot of distribution. Yeah. But yeah, it's definitely something worth checking out.
00:50:16
Speaker
That's interesting that I enjoyed another one that I just saw recently was the beach house on shutter and had a very lovecrafting vibe to it as well. It's about a couple who go to
00:50:29
Speaker
his father's cabin by the beach and they run into like one of his father's friends that also was going there that they didn't know each other was going to be there so they're kind of an unexpected guest and then like then something there's like an environmental kind of disaster or something happening almost like at the same time and it's
00:50:54
Speaker
It's good. That's all I can really say. It was kind of a mix of like the mist and the fog, you know, but without like.
00:51:04
Speaker
like the mist meets the fog and there's like a battle of creatures like the creatures from the mist and then the fall creatures they fight each other it's kind of it's kind of a mix of the fall creatures and the mist creatures there isn't really like these giant other dimensional you know creatures but there are
00:51:25
Speaker
you know something's happening to people who have been infected and it was good like I wasn't like I wasn't really expecting that to happen you know I mean like it was like okay this starts out kind of basic okay it's these people at this beach
00:51:41
Speaker
okay these the this other couple's a little weird what's going to happen then like it just kind of goes like more and more bizarre and like this this kind of fog kind of rolls in and yeah it gets it was good i really enjoyed that one's on shutter now too so yeah then that sounds pretty interesting goddamn do you get alerts for these
00:52:04
Speaker
I mean, I kind of constantly look for, for shit. I mean, I follow like Fangoria, Blight, Disgusting, Dread Central. I follow all the horror sites. So whenever they're like, and Shuttle, yeah, I love it. Oh yeah.
00:52:19
Speaker
I'm like, all right. And then when they released their top movies, their favorite ones, like the different writers that work for these companies, when they released their favorite movies, I'm like, all right, that was your favorite. I'm gonna check it out. That's almost kind of the best way to do it. Instead of trying to go through.
00:52:37
Speaker
you know of any application that actually will give you like can you like that you could set to a particular because I tried to do this with tv time and it it just really like you can discover and it'll take your viewing history and give you you know shows based on your viewing history but like you can't really do it with genre and
00:53:00
Speaker
I was just thinking like it would be, I think I would be able to see more content or at least like have an idea of what I should be watching. If I had like something that would like kind of like alert me to like upcoming shit and I haven't been able to find that. I mean I can just text you when upcoming shit. I can be your app.
00:53:23
Speaker
Yeah but I was asking if you knew of anything like that you obviously don't know. That would be a good idea for an apple a lot better than that fucking quibby crap or whatever it was. Yeah I mean I'm constantly following hard news so I'm constantly hearing about new shit coming out and like
00:53:44
Speaker
And I watch trailers. I have a huge list that I'm never going to get through, but it's like I'm starting to go through by the highest IMDB ranking. I'm like, all right, most people like this movie. Let me watch this one. And then I work my way down, even if I like a trailer for one that doesn't.
00:54:00
Speaker
Uh, it doesn't get as good ratings because I can't be, I mean, obviously with like movies like Antebellum, you can't really base shit on trailers because that's never a good idea. Yeah. So that's my, uh, that's my list. On PBS the other night, they said that one of the, um, one of the, uh, most knowable phrases of 2020 is what are you watching?
00:54:29
Speaker
You know, because obviously more people are consuming like like television media now than they ever have in like their existence. So I think it would be advantageous if somebody made like an application that would, you know, kind of
Top TV Shows of 2020
00:54:47
Speaker
give people it'd be really cool if you could do it by genre. Yeah.
00:54:51
Speaker
mean, and then you can, uh, uh, it's just something that came to mind. Like I said, my mind wanders, but, uh, television wise, uh, was a little bit better for me. I would say, um, and I had forgotten about dark, but for television in 2020, I think, um, it's hard for me to say what my absolute favorite was. I didn't out of the list.
00:55:21
Speaker
I think the outsider has to be my number one. Yeah, outsider was definitely my favorite as well. It was just so fantastic. Yeah, I was juggling it. I think it was the clear vector. Yeah. For me, a close second would be Lovecraft Country. I know you didn't finish it and get through it, but I really liked it. I watched it twice and I would watch it again.
00:55:46
Speaker
Well, I didn't finish that. It was intentional. It was intentional. I couldn't get through it. Yeah. It wasn't like I just like decided to like start watching it and then like I just never got around to it. You know what I mean? It was a conscious decision. I just want to be clear on that. Yeah. Oh, yeah. I know. Yeah. I mean, I watched the first season. I read the book and then I watched the first season again and hopefully it gets a second maybe or maybe not. It could be completely fine if they didn't get a second season. I'd be all right with that.
00:56:17
Speaker
The other one that I liked that you didn't like that much was raised by wolves.
00:56:23
Speaker
Yeah, that would not make my list. Yeah, see, I thought raised, but now, look, Raised by Wolves, you have to understand the last three episodes just went off the fucking rails. Yeah. If it was not for the last three episodes of that and it was just the first six, six and a half episodes, would that make your list then? Because I thought, like,
00:56:50
Speaker
The first six episodes were some of the best sci-fi i've seen in a long time like classic Ridley Scott was definitely very Ridley Scottish but i mean that make your would that make your list if.
00:57:05
Speaker
like it didn't have like the horrid direction they decided to go. I'm still not clear as to why they did that. I heard rumors about the pandemic, you know, but that could be that that was only a rumor. Like, I don't know that from certain that they were in lockdown restrictions. Like, I don't I don't know that. But my question remains, like, if it was just for the first six or seven episodes, would that make your list or you just really didn't like it very much? Maybe.
00:57:34
Speaker
It might, I don't know, but okay.
00:57:37
Speaker
Yeah, I'm gonna give you a maybe on that. Yeah, for me, for me, it was really, it was really, it was really clear. I mean, I think that like the first seven episodes, like outshine the shit that the last three brought. Yeah. So, um, you know, I, I really enjoyed that. And that would probably, I mean, that, yeah, that's definitely my top thought. Even though haunted a blind manner didn't make my
00:58:04
Speaker
list, I would put that above race by wolves. Yeah, yeah. Gotcha. Yeah, I mean, I would put there's a nod. I mean, I liked I enjoyed Hellstrom, I enjoyed lock and key. Those were both interesting. I have, I haven't, I just have not watched lock and
00:58:26
Speaker
When I talk to people about that, and at least my understanding of what Pritik said was that it was a very average show. It wasn't terrible, but it wasn't very good.
00:58:44
Speaker
I hear it's not it wasn't as good as the comics from what I understand. I haven't read the comic, but it's it is very like young adult horror, but like I kind of enjoyed like the the world. It was in the different keys and what they do and stuff. So I thought that was very interesting. So I look forward to a second season anyway.
00:59:03
Speaker
Well, you had already mentioned it, so I'll just say, um, you know, uh, the haunting of why manner, um, was definitely one of, I'm saying in, in the genre.
00:59:15
Speaker
in the year 2020 it makes my list it would not add any other like in any other like normal times like i do not think that it would have made my list but there were things i really liked about it um you know i mean i thought i also thought like i thought the first few episodes were pretty fucking good and then it just kind of like went to shit like right after the
00:59:43
Speaker
I think it was called like Alter of the Dead or something like that was the name of the episode. Like I thought that, I think we actually talked about that very episode when we talked about Hill House and Bligh Manor. And I think we both said that was like a really good, so I, it was more a tale of two halves for me. Yeah. Like first and it fell apart. But yeah, in any other like normal year,
01:00:11
Speaker
where, you know, things weren't like disrupted so much and there wasn't like the kind of chaos we had. I don't think Bly Manor would have made my list. Yeah. But, you know, it did this year. Yeah. What we do in the shadow season two made my list as well. That continues to be great. I don't know if you've started watching that yet. I have not. Oh, man. You've seen the movie though, right?
01:00:33
Speaker
what we do in shadows yeah yeah if you like the movie i think i think you'll really take the show so i mean it's it's been a little bit but i do remember liking the movie like you know i mean uh
01:00:45
Speaker
But yeah, I mean, that's, yeah, that's, that's on my list. I'm aware of it. It's definitely something I plan to watch. Where would that, where does that rank on your list? Did you do, did you just do a list of like, you know, your top five in any order, or have you been doing it in the order from like what you like the most the least or are they all.
01:01:05
Speaker
No, I would do most of the least. I did, outside of Lovecraft Country, what we do in Shadows, that would be my number three. Dark was my number four season. Dark is your number four? Yeah. Yeah, I mean, I'm on par with that. Like, I didn't like Dark season four as much as... You mean three? Yeah, there was no four. A little confusing. I didn't like Dark season... I like Dark season three a little bit more than I like Dark season two.
01:01:34
Speaker
But I still thought the first season was the best. Oh, absolutely. But I think that you don't remember a lot. I think that show is a whole like it just really. Well, that's how it's supposed to be. Yeah, that's how it's supposed to be viewed. Like, you know, I mean, that's one of those ones where like if somebody had said to me like right after the first two seasons, like right, a season three was coming out.
01:02:00
Speaker
And they said, should I watch that show? I would be like, yes, but you should wait like a month for the third season to end and then try to binge watch it as much as possible because that will be, you know, you'll have an advantage that way. You know, I mean, you need to have shit.
01:02:18
Speaker
fresh on your mind as you go into the next episode, you know what I mean? And also, Dark Season 3 was pretty good because it gave me a whole new idea of how to deal with rain. You know, it gave me a whole... Oh, about just going out and not never rocking the umbrella. It seemed like it was raining a lot in Dark Season. Like, I mean, it seemed like it was raining hard.
01:02:45
Speaker
and the characters that are in this like brutal
01:02:49
Speaker
constant downpour seem to be like totally unfazed by it. The one guy with the yellow jacket is the only one prepared. Everyone else is just like, yeah, it's really well. I don't know if you remember, but I sent a, I actually went on Reddit to see if anybody else felt this way. And there was a whole thread about it. Oh yeah. We talked about that. Someone else was like, I think their quote was like,
01:03:16
Speaker
Is this just how they deal with rain in Germany? I thought that was great. But yeah, so Dark Season 3 is definitely up there. Then the last thing I got on here, I watched it recently. It's Truth Seekers, the new Simon Pegnick Frost.
01:03:42
Speaker
kind of a poltergeisty comedy. It's got Malcolm McDowell in it. It's got Nick Frost. It's got Simon Pegg. And Nick Frost is the main character. He plays this guy who works for an internet company who's installing 5G or whatever. And they're getting 100% in this area. But on the side, his side job, he also does paranormal investigation stuff.
01:04:09
Speaker
and it was it was pretty funny and i enjoyed it like i think malcolm mcdowell was malcolm mcdowell he just will not die is not that's good like i love him just i mean he was in a he played the devil in a
01:04:27
Speaker
No, I was thinking it was a television show. He played the devil and he had a band that was like, you know, a band of nobodies and he like, you know, had the band sign their soul over to him.
01:04:43
Speaker
And they became huge afterwards. But like, you know, he would also have him do like real evil shit. Like, like he made like he made the band like a band of chaos, where like the fans will like kill each other in the like, it had Sam from Game of Thrones and he was like their manager.
01:05:07
Speaker
Yeah, I don't know. Yeah, that was the last thing I saw Malcolm McDowell in and yeah, it was harder. So yeah, I mean, but yeah, he was the devil. It was kind of cool. I think I've seen that one as well. I just can't remember the name of it. Oh, you know the movie. It sounds it sounds vaguely familiar. Yeah. And at the end, they like they list a bunch of quotes from different artists like
01:05:34
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like Lenny Kravis and Carlos Santana where they were like talking about how like one of them talks about how like when they when he goes on stage like he meditates and goes to like the the like the macro verse and shit like like it sounded very Stephen Kingish you know and like yeah they tried to like say like I don't know it was it was interesting but it
01:05:58
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fucking absolute raging sidebar. Sorry. Yeah. Oh, you know who I would give my best actor award to this this past year, even though the movie did not make my list would be Vince Vaughn and Freaky. Like, even though I didn't think the movie was did anything new with like the body swapping, because it's like a body swapping serial killer and Vince Vaughn body swaps with like this teenage girl, like this high schooler. I thought he was fantastic in it. And I thought he was really funny, but
01:06:27
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I didn't think the movie really did anything, you know, new and exciting, but after true detective season two, there was a thing on IMDB or no, it wasn't IMDB, but it was like screen rant or like one of the, one of the, it was a respect of public.
Notable Performances and Series Reviews
01:06:45
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They had said that like they thought his career might be over.
01:06:48
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yeah he just didn't really fit that role like yeah he's he's definitely fits the comedy a lot better so i didn't think he was so bad in that movie that his career yeah yeah i didn't think that either like but like i had heard that like they were like you know vince bones not getting work anymore and i was like what
01:07:11
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because like him like old school stuff like yeah I mean he's an actor that's made for comedy he just I don't I don't know what it is typecasting wet but you just I don't see him as like a
01:07:24
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in a drama role. Yeah, I mean, he did that one where he was in he played he's like a prisoner. I thought that was pretty good. His head shaved. Yeah, forget what that was called. But that was good. I think he played a serial killer in the movie, too.
01:07:41
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Yeah, he split up some serious roles now I think about it that I've really enjoyed it was just that one He just didn't fit that role. I think for somebody really fucked up and was ridiculous Well, I think they fucked up in writing that season as well Yeah, yeah, it's fucking nuts. But um, yeah, so I guess that's that's pretty much like
01:08:04
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the best and worst. Well, I guess for me, it was like the worst yours. Yours was your your your best or what can I say? I'm fucking I don't know. I'm grim. I don't know. Yeah, I don't do anything else after work, but come home and either play video games or watch movies and TV series like I finished season two of
01:08:28
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Oh, God, I don't even know the one that was on Showtime that got canceled that we just talked about.
01:08:38
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There's a lot of stuff that's gotten canceled now. Oh, just a quick note, Babylon Berlin, I would say season three, it's not the final season, but Babylon Berlin season three, it came out, I believe in the US, it came out in February of 2020. I think in Germany, it may have come out in December of 2019.
01:09:04
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but in the US, or maybe it was like the first, I know it came about in the US like a month or two later than it came up, but it came out on Netflix in February of 2020. I would say that was probably one of the better things I've seen. I really liked it.
01:09:24
Speaker
that show I thought that season one and two were better but it's just so surreal like it's just fucking I don't know it's it's really really cool because you wouldn't think like a detective noir horror um it was very it is it was very good I'll check that out uh it was a penny dreadful is that I finished the second season of that I have one more season and then I have the the new one
01:09:55
Speaker
Oh yeah, we should probably talk about that.
Upcoming Shows and Closing Remarks
01:10:01
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And if you're listening to this and you're wondering why we haven't talked about the stand yet is because we both thought it was going to be aired all at once, but they've been doing week to week. So we will be talking about that once it finishes airing and we'll watch it.
01:10:13
Speaker
Yeah I haven't I haven't even started yet because I also thought it was all coming out at once. Yeah I figured we would have already done and then I was like wait this is week by week I'll wait till it's over. Yeah I think there's another three episodes. Yeah I think there's a couple more yeah.
01:10:28
Speaker
There's a few that I'm looking forward to. Actually, one that's already available, I think, on Netflix right now that came out in December last year. It's called Sweet Home. It's from Korea. It's about humans turn into savage monsters, one troubled teenager and his neighbors fight to survive and to hold on to their humanity. And that's been getting a lot of good reviews. It's got a 7.4 on IMDb and 80% rotten tomatoes right now.
01:10:55
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So I've heard good things about I've seen the trailer once or twice when it popped up and off to check that out, but uh, and then the other one I believe is on HBO Max right now, it's called 30 coins.
01:11:09
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And I believe it was a Brazilian show, if I'm correct. It's in Spanish, I know. Oh, no, it's in Spain. It's about this exorcist, boxer and ex-combat exiled to a remote town in Spain, enlists the help of a mayor and a veterinarian when a series of paranormal phenomenon begins to occur. And that's been getting good reviews too. So on HBO now, I mean, sorry, HBO Max, it's got 7.2% and an 88% around tomatoes.
01:11:36
Speaker
So those are two shows that I'm looking forward to watching soon. There's a strange contrast between internet movie database and Rotten Tomatoes. I've seen shit that's gotten great reviews on IMDB, but was kind of shit on Rotten Tomatoes. And I've watched shit that was considered to be pure gold based on
01:12:02
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and shit on IMDB. Yeah, I've done the same thing. There's been a few. I don't really pay attention to rotten tomatoes. Yeah, I don't really either. I usually just go by IMDB, but I know a lot of people go by, like swear by rotten tomatoes. They're like, oh, it's the best. I'm like, no, it's not. Yeah. I disagree with a lot of what they say. I don't know. But I'm glad that it exists. It's good to have a different
01:12:28
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You know what I mean? I like that, but I don't agree with a lot of what they say. Yeah, it's not bad to look at both and kind of, you know.
01:12:37
Speaker
judge it by that and they both seem both of those seem to rate rate it pretty high so it seems like it should be uh it's it's something i've heard other people recommend to me and not through uh any of the review sites it was like personal friends that have been like hey you need to watch this like this was really good so i think um so sweet home has already finished uh season one so that was available on netflix
01:13:01
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Uh, the other one was out in Spain already, so you could watch it, but it's going week by week now on HBO max. I believe it just started airing like the, in December. So there's still a few more episodes left of that. So I'll wait till that's over to finish to watch that. But I've, I've heard good things about that. And, uh, and that's all I've got for now. Right now.
01:13:28
Speaker
Anything you're looking forward to or besides the list of movies I gave you to watch? It was on the tip of my tongue and I've been meaning to mention it for like the past 10 minutes. I was going to say this is what I'm looking forward to, what I want to watch next. I'm totally drawing a blank now.
01:13:49
Speaker
Like you were talking, I'm like, I'm gonna mention this at the very end of the cast. And I, now I can, I cannot remember what it was. It's fucking terrible, man. My short-term memory is just totally shit these days. And it's crazy because like, I was actually like Castle Rock was going to be on like my list. Yeah, me too. And I had to look that up. I feel like time has like,
01:14:19
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really like been warped like in this year you know what I mean with the isolation and it just seems like every day is like five days to me yeah like you know I mean so like yeah I'm just I'm not yeah with Castle Rock I think it's because we did our cast in January
01:14:38
Speaker
I knew it really felt like it aired in March or something.
01:14:51
Speaker
Yeah. And see, I also felt that the outsider was in 2019. Yeah. You didn't mention that. And I was like, how are you not going to mention outsider? I came out like last summer. Yeah, I did not. I did not. Like, yeah, my like perception of time is all fucking skewed, man. Like all fucking like my science project out great stuff. I find movie on anyway. Well, hey, man, it's good to see you, bro.
01:15:20
Speaker
Yes, good talking to you. I guess the next cast will probably be talking about The Stand. They're depending. Should finish by mid February. So yeah, I'll probably have watched a few more movies that we could probably talk about. It's like Psycho Gorman, which is supposed to come out on Shutter, but it's on VOD right now. It's like a B style horror movie.
01:15:47
Speaker
you got to check out the trailer for that that that that looks good and i've heard good things about that i've been waiting for that one but yeah i'll have a few things uh more to talk about by the end of february so and hopefully the stand hopefully we can do the stands well you had said that you re-watched this stand like the original miniseries so i'm thinking maybe i should probably get on
01:16:10
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Yeah, I haven't finished watching it. I had started it and I was going to do it in small chunks. Uh, then I was hoping by the time I finished that the other season would end up, but it hasn't. So I'd watched like the first hour and the very end was like really, really hard for me to take. It was really bad.
01:16:29
Speaker
Yeah, we'll talk about that when we get to when we get to it. So yeah, definitely. But thanks. Yeah, thanks for joining me. Thanks for listening. Follow us on in our Facebook group and check us out on iTunes at Fright Central. And I've been doc and I am CAC and everybody take care of yourselves and be safe. Take care. See you next time. Peace.