Transcript
Kevin Dougherty: right, welcome back to Fright Central. I'm Doc, back here again, as always, with Keck, and we have returned from Halloween, even though I just put up ah the first episode recorded before Halloween today.
Keck: I'll remember Halloween.
Kevin Dougherty: So, but a yes.
Keck: How was your Halloween? Did you do on anything?
Kevin Dougherty: ah No, I watched, I watched, I did ah do my 31 movies for Halloween for the month of October.
Keck: Oh, that's pretty cool.
Kevin Dougherty: I'm at 31. There was some guy in the one of the groups I'm in, one of the horror groups I'm in, he watched like a hundred and over a hundred movies for the month of October.
Keck: Well, did you?
Keck: what what What is a horror group?
Kevin Dougherty: Yeah, there's, you know, like the friend central group, but there's, there's other, there's other, uh, there's other horror groups out there that I'm also a part of.
Keck: Oh, okay. Oh, you're just talking like through like social networking and stuff like that?
Kevin Dougherty: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Keck: Oh, okay, gotcha.
Kevin Dougherty: Yeah.
Keck: Did you go to any haunts?
Kevin Dougherty: if Somebody was posting. um i did I did go to knots with a bunch of people from Wasteland Weekend. I didn't get to do every maze, because trying to wrangle 20 people together to go do stuff is pretty pretty difficult.
Kevin Dougherty: Plus, we didn't have fast passes. And it was a little more crowded than we thought. um But then, ah yeah, I didn't get a chance to really do much else after that.
Keck: Yeah, your October was a little lamer than normal.
Kevin Dougherty: So it was kind of an end goal. Yeah, I mean, I still watched a bunch of horror movies, but I do that anyway, right?
Keck: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Kevin Dougherty: But ah you know it was ah yeah it was a little more quieter than normal. Plus, like, you know, Halloween was on a Thursday this year, and I got work the next day. So it's like, I'm not really out.
Keck: yeah Yeah, yeah, that's, that yeah, Halloween being on like a Friday or Saturday is fucking awesome.
Kevin Dougherty: Yeah, next two years, baby.
Keck: You know what I mean?
Kevin Dougherty: Yeah.
Keck: Yeah, ah yeah, we still have that. I went to one Halloween party. I had told you a little bit about it. Like, I really didn't want to go because um I had been told it was going to be like a real, like, kind of hardcore dress -up thing, like everybody.
Keck: And I just had a basic mask. You know what I mean? And, like, I kind of felt, like, lame doing that. Plus, I wasn't really feeling it, but my friend told me, she goes, Brandon, you know, um, it's just gonna be, like, a small gathering, like, no big deal. She said, you know, like, maybe, like, 40 to 50 people, because it's, like, a big house, and they have, like, acres of land out back. There's gonna be bonfires and stuff, you know. I was like, yeah, that actually sounds pretty cool. So, you know, I put my lame -ass mask on one over there.
Keck: There were hundreds of fucking people here.
Kevin Dougherty: but
Keck: And after being there for like 30 minutes, I was offered MDMA and cocaine. And I was just like, I think I sent you like um a text and I'm like, yo, man, I just took a bunch of drugs.
Keck: I'm going to do. Yeah.
Kevin Dougherty: yeah
Keck: oh All that stuff happened, except I didn't actually take any hardcore drugs, um except drink a beer and smoke a joint. But ah yeah, I mean,
Kevin Dougherty: Yeah, you did say you felt really underdressed.
Keck: Yeah, I felt underdressed and I felt like I should have been going there like with the mindset of raging it because like that's what it was a Rager I was alright because like, you know, I just stayed away from like the people that were going crazy but I had like gone to the bathroom at one point like this place was huge and ah To find the bathroom. I had to go upstairs and there were like a bunch of bedrooms and and they were all closed and I could hear like I mean I don't know maybe it was just like a guy and a girl but like it sounded like there was an orgy going on behind one of those doors like I heard like three different voices and this was just like I didn't stop an eavesdrop like I was just going to the bathroom
Keck: and I could hear like people fucking behind that door and it sounded like there were like either other people partaking or maybe there were just people watching or maybe they were just all fucked up and just having a conversation while two other people fucked but there was fucking going on behind that door and there were more than two people in the room so yeah dude it was a fucking rager
Kevin Dougherty: Yeah, I guess maybe I'll go um have to come to your party next year.
Keck: i I just think I would have had a better time if like I had known what the scene was going to be. so like i could have like
Kevin Dougherty: Yeah. Oh, to be surprised with that? Yeah, as we say.
Keck: Exactly. I could have put like more into the costume because the one girl that I went with, like she had like, I mean, you know, with girls nowadays, it seems like every Halloween is like, you know, dressed like somewhat slutty.
Keck: And like she had like, you know, a sexy like witch costume.
Kevin Dougherty: Yeah.
Keck: Like she was like the wicked witch of the West, like if the wicked witch of the west was also like a part -time prostitute so like you know she had that going on and it was like a real involved costume she looked really good i just had a stupid mask on so that was the only thing and like you know uh i would have liked to maybe have known that like it was going to be a real ranger with like a lot of drugs and sex shit going on that's the only thing but anyway so yeah yeah
Kevin Dougherty: Yeah, yeah. Well, I know you watched a, I know you watched a bunch of horror movies this past Halloween too.
Keck: I did.
Kevin Dougherty: So, uh, why don't we talk about some of those? I mean, there was a couple of news items that have popped up on my feed in the past month. Uh, like for instance, apparently, uh, stampede entertainment, who recently, uh, won back the rights to the original script of tremors is, uh, in the planning stages of a new tremors movie.
Keck: Yeah.
Keck: get the fuck outta here. how many well there I know there was Tremors 1, Tremors 2, and Tremors 3, and I think in Tremors 3 they could fly.
Kevin Dougherty: Yeah.
Kevin Dougherty: Yeah, I don't know how many they ended up making.
Keck: and
Kevin Dougherty: I wasn't really paying attention. But I know Kevin Bacon said he would come back again and do it.
Keck: really Well, because aside from the original Tremors, I remember seeing Tremors 3, and the only person I've recognized in Tremors 3 was that dude that had like the elephant gun.
Kevin Dougherty: Yeah.
Keck: You know, they broke it the the thing broke into his basement, and him, and I think it was Reba McIntyre, the country he sent.
Kevin Dougherty: Yeah.
Keck: And remember, like they like thought they were dead, and then they start hearing shots. That guy was in all three of them. You know how I'm talking about the guy with the elephant gun?
Kevin Dougherty: yeah i think ah think you Yeah, I think them. I think he's like the only one like that that's come back for every single one.
Keck: Yeah. Dude, he really... wait Was there more than three? Was there a Tremors Four?
Kevin Dougherty: Oh, absolutely. There's probably like five or six.
Keck: Oh shit, I didn't know. I thought there might have been a Tremors Four, but I don't think I saw it.
Kevin Dougherty: There's a five.
Keck: Holy shit!
Kevin Dougherty: Yeah, five was 2015.
Keck: Wow.
Kevin Dougherty: um Then there's other ones that just say tremors 2018 with Kevin Bacon's name on it, but I don't know
Keck: So it's just a bunch but why is something that the chainsaw awards was said like what's the best tremors movie this year? Like they did with
Kevin Dougherty: yeah ah it says a TV movie 2018 that came to sci -fi it says a television reboot of the film tremors But was he and I mean I'd never heard of this I'm gonna have to look look for it now.
Keck: Well, I actually found out that there was a Friday the 13th short that I had missed.
Kevin Dougherty: Oh yeah, there's a bunch of like, fan -made ones too.
Keck: Yeah. Well, yeah, this one was just like, uh, it was like, with like two girls and I don't know, like I saw bits and pieces. They were like skinny dipping and I don't know. I didn't really like get into it because it just looked, I don't know, like,
Kevin Dougherty: I mean, i'm I'm backing one that, uh, I should be getting the digital copy, uh, that's already completed. I was a, like a cyberpunk, uh, Jason one for like in the future or some shit like that.
Keck: Oh, really? Oh, that's cool. Yeah, there's um a game I play on Xbox Game Pass called um ah Deep Rock Galactic. And ah as as the seasons change and as new holidays come up, especially Halloween,
Keck: they uh like in your base like everything changes and there's like you know jack -o'-lanterns and um new costumes and outfits that you can like purchase like you know not like for real money but like by doing quests there was a guy and i was i typed in like yo man you have this it was a full jason voorhees like outfit it was like um
Kevin Dougherty: Yeah.
Keck: He was and he tied back. He was like, yeah, this is from Jason 3D the outfit and it was like when he first gets the masks and he has like the overall things or it so fucking cool man like yeah that's the one thing about that game i like is that it's like one of those things that's ever evolving it's constantly changing and like recently it's like gotten a lot more horror based but yeah and it's like starship troopers basically you're constantly going and fighting these fucking bugs
Kevin Dougherty: ah
Kevin Dougherty: Yeah, I keep hearing things about that game. ah But speaking of ah bringing games to the big screen, ah the studio behind Saul, I guess with Lionsgate, is bringing Outlast to the big screen.
Keck: Oh cool.
Kevin Dougherty: I don't know if they're gonna, I mean, I hope they keep it like that found footage style, like the game is, but who knows what they're gonna do with that.
Keck: I really had to stop playing that game due to like it giving me like heart arrhythmia. Like, do like like ryan I was like, ah you know I heard this shit was like real fucking scary and shit. And I was like, I was playing with my butt. He'd shake and I was like, this is nothing I haven't seen before. And then there was like this sudden shock. and I jumped and he was like. yeah ah So, yeah, I mean, it was just it's still a lot of jump scares, man.
Kevin Dougherty: Yeah. And then there was this other headline that I thought was really funny because they're pretending the original didn't happen. It didn't get a big screen adaptation. It says Sega's legendary zombie shooter arcade game, The the House of the Dead, is getting a big screen adaptation from Resident Evil's Paul W .S. Anderson.
Keck: uh... oh yeah i know by no problem yes anderson but it well how yet
Kevin Dougherty: Yeah, but they're pretending that House of the Dead wasn't already made by Huey Ball. you know The one where they edit parts of the game into the fucking edit?
Keck: no idea what what they're talking about weight they're talking about a new movie we're making all i thought you were saying like they were to all you all yet yet well date you can't pretend that didn't happen
Kevin Dougherty: Yeah. yeah yeah
Kevin Dougherty: Yeah. but that's that big screen real big screen That's the way it sounded like it was worded. It's like it's it's getting a big screen adaptation.
Kevin Dougherty: It's like, yeah, it already got one.
Keck: yeah Yeah, exactly.
Kevin Dougherty: Yeah. think So it's kind of weird how they worded that.
Keck: yeah And it was on the big screen. It was an adaptation that was released exclusively in theaters.
Kevin Dougherty: yeah it's all Yeah, we saw it in theaters.
Keck: Yeah, like where are we like didn't people like we were like the only people in there except for like someone else and like I think they got up and left because I think we had gone for a double feature that night and if I'm not mistaken we had also seen the movie eight -legged freaks with uh one of the uh curry warrior I think Ernie uh I don't know I'm in love with her but uh
Kevin Dougherty: yeah
Kevin Dougherty: Oh, that movie's great.
Keck: Uh, and also had one of the arcettes in it.
Kevin Dougherty: Yeah, David, I can't.
Keck: Yeah. And I think we went from that into House of the Dead.
Kevin Dougherty: Yeah.
Keck: And like when everybody else left the theater, I think we were like in the back, like smoking pot or something like that. Like I can't remember if that was the case or, you know, I'm sure we were probably drinking.
Kevin Dougherty: but
Kevin Dougherty: I tell you.
Keck: but
Kevin Dougherty: Yeah, I can't tell you what else came out the time of that, but I remember being so fucking bad that we were fucking laughing when they started fucking editing clips of the video game into it.
Keck: Yeah.
Keck: Yeah, and but it that actually had, it had, um, I think yeah Ron Howard's brother who does like bad horror movies, you know, he's like short and like balding and, um, it had, uh, the guy from Das Bult.
Kevin Dougherty: Oh, what's this?
Kevin Dougherty: Yeah, but that's the thing with you, Ebola has all that money that he spends and on actors and shit like that.
Keck: and
Kevin Dougherty: But like he's just terrible at Because look at if you look at all the movies.
Keck: The writing was awful. He only had like, well, I mean, I would say he only really had one known actor in that. At least one that I knew regularly.
Kevin Dougherty: Yeah. Yeah.
Keck: ron howard brother Ron Howard's brother, like I just call him Ron Howard's brother because I don't know his name.
Kevin Dougherty: Yeah.
Keck: I mean, he's been in like, I liked him in the ah movie The Wraith.
Kevin Dougherty: very Yeah.
Keck: He was like the nerd in the movie The Wraith. Like, yeah. But yeah, I'm not going to spend any more time talking about House of the Dead.
Kevin Dougherty: Yeah. I mean, I mean, it's granted, it's like, it's only Paul Anderson who did like, I mean, the the only good thing that he's done was fucking event horizon.
Kevin Dougherty: And then he did a bunch of mediocre Resident Evil games where you can say bad adaptations of the video game.
Keck: yeah ah Yeah.
Kevin Dougherty: Um, but so I'm not, I don't think it's going to be.
Keck: Really, really bad adaptations.
Kevin Dougherty: So I don't think it's going to be that great, but it's got to be leagues ahead of fucking Huey bowls. So I guess that's, that's something, I guess.
Keck: Yeah.
Keck: Yeah, most of the adaptations he did, weren't evil like there were no games like Resident Evil. I think one was called Extinction. They just called it Resident Evil.
Keck: like There was no game that was like that. like That took place in those areas, like you know like pretty much only like the first one with Mila Jehovich, I think it was the first Resident Evil.
Kevin Dougherty: Yeah, who's the wife?
Keck: yeah like ah yeah because i think like that was like loosely based on the first one because i don't remember any resident evil game off the top of my head i could be making a big fuck up but i don't remember anything where you go deep into umbrella headquarters like deep underground
Kevin Dougherty: I don't think she was the wife at the time, but she is now.
Kevin Dougherty: No, the first one was just in the house. Yeah.
Keck: Yeah, and like and like they know stuff. So I mean, most of the Resident Evil games were just inspired by that story, or I'm sorry, ah the Resident Evil movies, not the games, they were just inspired by that.
Kevin Dougherty: yeah yeah pretty much yeah yeah didn't they do that with like didn't they do that with the reboot of resin evil that came out not that one yeah the last one that came out
Keck: I would like a movie where, you know, they had like, ah Chris Renfield and Jill Valentine, like, I think that would be really cool. I'd like this something that was in like a spooky mansion.
Keck: The reboot of what?
Keck: The latest movie? I'm not sure if I saw it.
Kevin Dougherty: oh yeah um yeah it was it's resident evil welcome to raccoon city yeah this is different this one's set in 1998 and it
Keck: What, you know what year? If they did, excuse me. i But yeah, I never, I never picked up on that one. Dude, the thing is, is like the ones with Mila Jovovich got so fucking terrible that like when I heard there was another one coming out, like I just skipped it in my mind.
Keck: You know, i they were all bad. Yeah. Well, there was a series that came out.
Keck: OK, because the series was god awful.
Kevin Dougherty: Yeah, and it does the mansion and and everything.
Keck: Oh, I missed that one.
Kevin Dougherty: And it's kind of kind of ah based on one and two. I mean, some of the story elements were kind of dumb, but like it does seem to follow the game a lot closer.
Keck: Do you have IMDB open? Was it well received by users and critics, or like was it mediocre?
Kevin Dougherty: Yeah.
Kevin Dougherty: the
Keck: or below mediocre yeah all right so below mediocre bad okay
Kevin Dougherty: ah Five point two, so mediocre. Yeah. Yeah. Speaking of Mila Jovovich, she apparently is going to be in the last, you know, Night of the Living Dead movie because apparently Romero had written a treatment or a script for Twilight of the Dead before he passed.
Keck: Yeah, I knew he had written something, but I was under the impression that like it was never really, they weren't going to really touch it because like he had only gotten like halfway through or something.
Kevin Dougherty: and there
Kevin Dougherty: Yeah. ah
Keck: Like it was it more complete or did somebody else like just pick it up and complete it?
Kevin Dougherty: I don't know. I didn't read that deep into it. I just saw that like she was cast as the lead and in the next one.
Keck: Uh,
Kevin Dougherty: And it just wasn't set on a tropical island.
Keck: I mean, it was, I guess like it was less ah ah against her and more, I mean, because like she, yeah like I've talked about this so many times, I mean, you can't out act terrible writing.
Kevin Dougherty: And she wants to shoot it next year.
Keck: Like if the writing is terrible, if the the story is just abysmal, and if you don't have a decent supporting cast, like there's only so much even the best act, you know, Donald Sutherland even could do, you know.
Kevin Dougherty: Yeah. yeah
Kevin Dougherty: Yeah.
Keck: um
Kevin Dougherty: Yeah. I mean, look at her in fucking Event Horizon. I mean, Event Horizon on Fifth Element, she's she's great in Fifth Element.
Keck: Yeah, yeah, I mean her performance kind of of made that movie like a little bit more well I mean, I guess they were looking for somebody really eccentric and she really pulled it off You know like that character was brilliant.
Kevin Dougherty: When she's giving her scripts, yeah. but
Kevin Dougherty: Yeah.
Keck: She was great. Yeah, that was Yeah, which is nothing
Kevin Dougherty: Yeah, I mean, I think she's good in the Resident Evils for what she has to work with.
Keck: except for the first one, everything she was handed was a steaming pile of shit.
Kevin Dougherty: so Yeah,
Kevin Dougherty: yeah. yeah
Keck: They were just like, here you go, Mila, just you know make the best of it and let us know. yeah but no The only other thing just to bring up real quick, um I think we should do this every podcast now,
Kevin Dougherty: uh but anyway uh that's that's pretty much all i got for now um so what movies did you uh watch this uh oh yeah our our news no news of uh crystal lake yeah
Keck: is Yeah we're gonna keep updating you with ah Crystal Lake News and I had told you that I found out recently that like it came way closer to getting completely scrapped than we ever had thought. I mean you know I had no idea of how I'm not going to get into it all but like if you guys want like look up Crystal Lake News and look up like the month of June and what they say about like the shade that was going on behind the scenes like I'm actually really surprised it didn't get scrapped which is what I predict it it's going to do and I still think there's a 50 -50 chance that will happen but yeah every cast we're gonna give some news and this cast is no news just nothing as far as we know it's still in production but that's it
Keck: It looks like something's going to happen, but yeah.
Kevin Dougherty: yeah i hope so i mean i did did hear uh brian fuller uh was it brian fuller yeah that uh since he's he was the one that was fired from crystal lake that he said never he said no he he was saying never say never on bringing back um mine hunter because he was all in the one that worked the only one was a david fincher
Keck: So yeah, but as for, yeah.
Keck: Yeah.
Keck: Selling.
Keck: David Fincher.
Kevin Dougherty: Oh, it's Fincher.
Keck: Yeah.
Kevin Dougherty: Fincher said never say never. He he might be bringing that back.
Keck: yeah David Fincher said that what he had said that he that was a quote, but he had finally said like say never What he said, yeah because like now like in order to well he had said never years ago and we talked about on the cast and now like I mean to get that cast together because you would need to get Holden Ford and um
Kevin Dougherty: Yeah, yeah.
Kevin Dougherty: Oh, okay.
Keck: the doctor I can't think of her name off the top of my head but like there's some key ah actors you would have to get back for that and I mean Fincher said that the project like he had kept hope alive but um it was something with Netflix like he had ultimately said like yeah I'm interested but you know anyway I i could go on with that for a long time but
Kevin Dougherty: Yeah.
Kevin Dougherty: Oh yeah, full Brian Fuller was on did Hannibal. They should bring that back.
Keck: oh Hannibal yeah that was uh an interesting interpretation to that story yeah uh yeah yeah literally yep yeah literally i'm not sure how you would really bring it back though i don't know they yeah they certainly didn't they certainly didn't and they weren't
Kevin Dougherty: and It literally ended on a cliffhanger.
Kevin Dougherty: Literally.
Kevin Dougherty: Well, they didn't have the rights to Clarisse or like the signs of Lambs. So they ended it right at Red Dragon.
Kevin Dougherty: So I don't know, maybe they could get the rights to that and then continue the story.
Keck: Yeah.
Kevin Dougherty: but
Keck: um Unless they get like Ed Norton, like I'm not really interested. interested If they got like Ed Norton.
Kevin Dougherty: No, I like that dude that played a fucking Erwin Orr's character.
Keck: Yeah, it's just the story took like a really bizarre turn in like the third season. I don't know. ah um I'm good with it coming back. But yeah, so what ah what did you see recently?
Kevin Dougherty: Well, like I said, I watched like 31 movies on Halloween.
Keck: every yeah 31 31 movies in 31 days yeah yeah I did too I did too yeah I I I was watching stuff like that too
Kevin Dougherty: Yeah. dare but Yeah, I didn't watch a movie a day. Some days I watched like two or three. another day I didn't watch any but yeah I watched a lot of like older stuff a lot of like some of the I watched a lot of some like ah like I don't when I say older I mean like I watched some of the stuff that's like early 2000s some of the remakes things like I watched the Hills of Eyes remake I watched the town that dreaded sundown remake which is like really interesting
Keck: oh yeah yeah oh god I haven't seen that before that's early 2000s oh I think I'm thinking of the original yeah yeah yeah yeah
Kevin Dougherty: Yeah, I think so.
Kevin Dougherty: Yeah. Yeah. I like how they included the original in to this one. I thought it was a really unique way to do it ah with like the original events they made into a movie and that was the first movie.
Kevin Dougherty: And then like this was like years later and like people would have like, you know, an annual watch of that movie. So I thought that was pretty cool.
Keck: Yep.
Kevin Dougherty: Um, I had watched the remake of crazies And then I had watched uh, I was at went to the world premiere of the remake of street trash Uh, which I wouldn't really call a remake because upon watching it they mentioned the events from the first one like this one takes place in like south africa and uh, they mentioned the events from new york that happened and ah and it still has the the uh the Viper bottles and stuff like that were like the stuff that was, you know, pretty much making people turn to ooze and exploding.
Keck: Yeah.
Kevin Dougherty: yeah And it was directed by the guy who did Fried Barry and he was there doing a Q and &A and ah the actor from ah Fried Barry, he wasn't there, but ah he's in the new one. And so at first I was like, well, is this also a secret sequel to Fried Barry? Because he plays real fucking like nuts as well. so ah that ah theres it was It's funny.
Kevin Dougherty: it's like It's like trashy fun. So it's like just like the first one, the original one.
Keck: Yeah, i'll have to check I'll have to check that out. um yeah that that sounds like yeah well you know I was trying to get in the spirit like you too.
Kevin Dougherty: yeah
Keck: you know Watching a lot of the retro ah Halloween movies like always seems to... I know i get like um i watched ah one of my favorites from back in the day and I had forgot that Brian Cox was in it.
Keck: which made it even more special. ah I believe it came out in 2007 called Trick or Treat. I mean it doesn't get much more Halloween than that.
Kevin Dougherty: Yeah.
Keck: The whole movie's about like Halloween and Halloween rituals and customs and like if you break them there will be consequences and I saw a lot of like classic actors like Anna Paquin and a lot of um
Kevin Dougherty: No.
Keck: I don't know, I wouldn't say they went on to become stream queens, but a lot of young actresses just starting their careers and that brought me back. And speaking of reboots, I had watched the early Salem slot movies, like Salem slot in the 70s, I returned to Salem slot.
Keck: which was awful, um but I watched 2004, Rob Lowe, Donald Sutherland, Rucker Howard, Salem's Lot, and um rather than get it in the, I believe, the two -part miniseries, I found it in like a full movie format, and I preferred it that way.
Kevin Dougherty: Well, yeah, I would too.
Keck: um so and it seemed it seemed like a lot yeah i guess because of that like it's apparently this was supposed to include oh about five to ten minutes more content than the miniseries because this was like um like put together afterwards like it was initially received uh released just as the main series but for some reason it seemed shorter to me i get obviously because it was in the full movie format but And I love all the actors.
Kevin Dougherty: Yeah.
Kevin Dougherty: Yeah, not to worry about commercials. and Yeah.
Keck: Yeah, like Rob Lowe, like Rob Lowe is great.
Kevin Dougherty: Yeah, that's it.
Keck: Donald Sutherland we talked about before. I mean, the only thing that was bad about Sutherland being on there is like a discrepancy in actor quality. But I have forgotten that James Cromwell also plays a big part in that movie as the priest that gets turned into like, you know, a Barlow servant.
Keck: um And, you know, so I
Kevin Dougherty: in the new movie.
Keck: yeah well no they they oh wait no barlow kills him right yeah he goes saying he's like i'm a priest and he's like there's not he's like really he's like there's nothing sadder than a man who's lost his faith and i believe barlow kills him or at least
Kevin Dougherty: Yeah, but... They just kill him, yeah.
Kevin Dougherty: Yeah.
Kevin Dougherty: Yeah, I think he, or he turns him and then he's like, ah you can't go back and and in there.
Keck: yeah I'm not I'm not really sure I didn't really I mean I like the way ah they made Barlow look in the newest Salem's lot but aside from that I didn't really think the movie was special at all I yeah I was hoping for something more um yeah
Kevin Dougherty: Let me see if he kills himself or something like that. yeah
Kevin Dougherty: no You know, yeah. Yeah, it seems like, I mean, I know it was originally supposed to be closer to like three hours and they ended up cutting like an hour out of it.
Kevin Dougherty: And then they ended up dropping on HBO Max. You can really tell because it's just kind of like, it's just like, oh, there's been one vampire attack and then suddenly like the whole town's run with fucking vampires out of nowhere.
Kevin Dougherty: And you're like, wait, what the fuck? Like did I miss something?
Keck: Yeah.
Kevin Dougherty: Like there was no real slow build or anything.
Keck: My mother, ah I remember when I was a little kid, I remember my mother reading the book, and the book just says Salem's a Lot, and there was like a drop of blood on the cover.
Keck: My mother is like a real avid Stephen King reader, but she hates watching any of the movies. And she had
Kevin Dougherty: my dad read write a bunch of stephen king well watch the new these theory yeah
Keck: Yeah and she had said that Salem's Lot was like a really emotional, um a really emotional book too because like it was really like you know ah the vampires were kind of like a metaphor for like the town catching a disease and people seeing ones that they love fall and you know like die or and then come back in like these horrific ways and it was like a real like psychological thing And I remember her putting the book down on the table, like, and then picking it up like an hour later.
Keck: And I was like, Mom, can you read me? And she's like, no, no, I cannot read you. and this But, you know, that's a thing with Stephen King.
Kevin Dougherty: but
Keck: I mean, all his, you know, dairy catches the disease.
Kevin Dougherty: Yeah.
Keck: And it just goes on and on.
Kevin Dougherty: Well, Midnight Mass, well, you know, Mike Flanagan's ah TV show really feels like a Salem slot adaptation, even though it wasn't.
Keck: but
Keck: Yeah.
Kevin Dougherty: we were ah You know, it's a small town, a vampire comes in and slowly like takes over and and takes out of people.
Keck: yeah i Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Kevin Dougherty: Yeah, it wasn't obviously a direct adaptation, but you it definitely feels like it it could have been.
Keck: Yeah.
Kevin Dougherty: And he probably should the you probably should have been the one to do it because Mike Flanagan fucking
Keck: No, I see all that.
Kevin Dougherty: does great and everything he does. so
Keck: Yeah, yeah he's been he's he's been very successful. But um what about ah more recent? Because you had recommended a few films to me that ah just came out.
Keck: I think they were all 2024 titles.
Kevin Dougherty: Oh, yeah.
Keck: ah The one thing that I missed was, ah i um I think Alien Romulus was a last year, was it?
Kevin Dougherty: No, this is here.
Keck: is that it was this year that's the one that I totally screwed the pooch on and I want to watch and talk about and I didn't say um really well that's interesting yeah well if you're in
Kevin Dougherty: This is calmer. Yeah.
Kevin Dougherty: that one is actually getting a glow -in -the -dark VHS release yeah they're like i think they were like $60 but it's like a limited release or whatever oh no that sorry it was late night with the devil that's getting the the glow -in -the -dark uh release but uh but that about alien rhyme list is also getting a uh a VHS release too but yeah they were both like $60 or something like that and it was like
Keck: Oh, okay.
Kevin Dougherty: What's the point? i think and Yeah.
Keck: Well, if you're into like the material collection and stuff like that, like I can kind of see that, you know, if it's something you want to put on your bookshelf or, you know, but that's not really me.
Keck: Um, but, uh, as for like the latest movies, um, I saw Terrifier 3, which I believe we saw in theaters reaction.
Kevin Dougherty: that
Kevin Dougherty: Yeah. That's all on theaters. Yeah. Well, I mean, I don't know. I didn't discuss it on the cast, but I definitely told you that like it was weird because um there was a group of like six people that had walked out, but there was like guys and girls.
Kevin Dougherty: And I don't think they had seen either of the first two.
Keck: Exactly, yeah.
Kevin Dougherty: And so they, and it was kind of, and like, there were definitely parts of that movie that were a little boring or like you were just like, why is this happening? Like there was no real, like it felt like there was less of a story in this one almost for these parts of it anyway.
Keck: ah Yeah, going back to All Hallows' Eve, I would say that, like, All Hallows' Eve was the only one that was, like, more, which, you know, you could really call All Hallows' Eve, like, the Terrifier 1.
Keck: But like aside from that, which was really just a collection of shorts, I thought this was the most incoherent
Kevin Dougherty: Yeah, it wasn't even incoherent. It was just like, why aren't you editing all this shit out? But anyway, then there was two people sitting next to me, and they both kept looking at their phones half the time.
Kevin Dougherty: And I'm like, dude, just put your fucking phones along.
Keck: ah So that was gonna that's all automatically going to distract you, and it's going to affect your overall experience.
Kevin Dougherty: Yeah, but I mean, i was still like I still thought it was probably the funniest of all three, because i thought went especially when he's like slapping her around at that one point.
Keck: Yeah, I yeah, did I did yeah, i did oh I didn't want to sound like a misogynist or anything like that, but yeah, I Yeah that what that was that was girl He really hated her, but I mean
Kevin Dougherty: and
Kevin Dougherty: It was just the way you did it. It was just funny. and
Kevin Dougherty: Yeah. But like if you had walked out on the second one without getting to the post -credit scene, there's a scene in the third one where like his his head's just on the ground in the psychiatric hospital, and it's just like you're like, wait, what the fuck?
Kevin Dougherty: Because she gives birth to the fucking head. like None of that fucking makes sense. Then they go to the fucking house, and they and they just fucking she just sits in the bath, and he just sits in that chair till somebody comes and bothers them.
Keck: Yeah.
Kevin Dougherty: like why why is that happening why are they just going to fucking sit and relax yes like it should have been in 90 minutes like there was so much random shit in that movie that it was like all right
Keck: Why was it a two hour and four minute movie?
Keck: Maximum an hour and 45 minutes, maxed.
Kevin Dougherty: Yeah, it was like, all right, that was a cool kill. But like, what was the point of all this? Like, you could have cut all that out. Like, streamline the fucking list. That's what I liked about the first one. It was much more streamlined. It was like, OK, these two girls like encounter the Terrifier than the the ter Terrifier. I mean, Art the Clown just fucking like, you know, fucking harasses them and fucking you know hunts them down the whole fucking movie. Nice and short to the point.
Kevin Dougherty: You know what I mean? Like it doesn't need a whole like ah eccentric story where they started to get into the second one with like him being like some demon, her being some angel, which didn't answer any of those questions in the fucking third one.
Keck: And also...
Keck: No, no, no.
Kevin Dougherty: Like she was just like, Oh, I'm back in the fucking psychiatric hospital.
Keck: The little...
Kevin Dougherty: Then like, but we're not going to like really, you know, answer any of the questions about me being a fucking my dad and how my dad knows all this fucking shit. Didn't get into any of that.
Keck: Yeah, no, no, no, I mean, they, there was like a flashback that Jonathan who like was barely even really in the movie. He was just like a college and though like, there were like a few scenes with him in it.
Keck: And, uh, you know, I don't like, apparently he had become like they were, he was like a national celebrity.
Kevin Dougherty: Oh yeah, then he just dies off -screen.
Keck: and like everybody knew him they wanted him to do their like ah horror podcast the one like groupie that was like all over him and stuff like that and uh yeah off screen they nothing said you know and and jonathan's on high alert at that time too like you know his sister like lets him know
Kevin Dougherty: Yeah, yeah. But then, like, our heart arches us on some down and kills him off -screen.
Kevin Dougherty: but not america is yeah yeah yeah like that's like you could have you could have used like something like you could cut out one of those other random see i mean i thought the scene where he goes to the fucking bar was funny and gets the santa claus costume but like the whole beginning fucking scene didn't make any sense because like okay why is he terrorizing these people just for the reason all right yeah
Keck: Yeah, I don't know what happened to that little girl or like why he specifically so brutally targeted that. Well, I mean, art has shown like his character has shown that he just doesn't really need any reason to target you like he'll just go fucking crazy.
Kevin Dougherty: No, but still, like...
Keck: But like usually there is something that like happens a little bit. Yeah. And they like after that whole introduction sequence of events happened,
Keck: They then go, I think they go five years earlier.
Kevin Dougherty: Yeah, they go right to where the two left off where he gets his head blown, and the cops are coming in.
Keck: right ah And so I'm thinking at the end of the movie they're going to explain that introduction.
Kevin Dougherty: Yeah.
Kevin Dougherty: Yeah, and they didn't go back to it all.
Keck: That explanation never comes ah despite the fact that it was a two hour and four minute movie and like ah just real
Kevin Dougherty: Yeah.
Kevin Dougherty: They sure get the Santa suit.
Keck: Yeah, it say but like just real quickly, I just want to get into the budgets real quick to just give you a comparison because like ah his budgets have gone up exponentially.
Kevin Dougherty: yeah
Keck: All Hallows' Eve, was this was just a projection between $15 ,000 and $25 ,000.
Kevin Dougherty: Yeah, because there were three shorts that they put together.
Keck: the first yeah Yeah, yeah, that was just right.
Kevin Dougherty: Yeah. yeah
Keck: Yeah, I mean that's fun. Terrifier 1, which, um you know, subjectively for me was my favorite. That was only a $35 ,000 budget movie total.
Kevin Dougherty: Yeah.
Keck: And I thought they did some pretty dope shit in that for just $35 ,000. Especially considering like they have to make a fresh cast of Art's face every single time they do any take.
Kevin Dougherty: yeah
Keck: Then the second one, which, you know, hey, I thought I thought it was very solid. I mean, they had a much larger budget at a quarter million dollars. But I mean, I thought they made the most of it. And I i like the upgrade. I mean, I liked I mean, I didn't really understand exactly what the deal was with the little girl, like if other people could see her or if she was just in art's head.
Keck: because at first she seems like she's invisible but then like at the end like um the uh xena warrior princess girl i can't remember whether name is but like she could clearly see her so it was
Kevin Dougherty: Thank you.
Keck: and then she walked away with the head at the end and yeah I'm not gonna go back and like re -summarize all of it but um this was my least favorite Terrifier and it had a massively larger two million dollar budget um yeah that's what I was going to mention there's definitely going to be a Terrifier for
Kevin Dougherty: Yeah, I agree, yeah but I mean it's also, you know the highest growths in unrated film which Oh,
Kevin Dougherty: yeah yeah, he's already said there's gonna be a four maybe a five but we won't see anything beyond five is what
Keck: Yeah. And just to say, ah you know, I said it had a $2 million dollars budget. ah The numbers currently for North America are at 53 million and global 63 million. So that's a pretty good return on your investment, Frank Studio.
Keck: So, I mean, yeah, we're gonna see at least one more Terrifier. And, I mean, if it were too gross that large again,
Keck: It could, you know, because I ah could send um an interview about Terrifier 2 where he had said that he had never planned to make Terrifier 3.
Keck: Like, it was in between Terrifier 1 and Terrifier 2.
Kevin Dougherty: Yeah.
Keck: It was a promotional interview. I could send you a link on YouTube and they were, like, making Terrifier 2, and he said that, like, he said, yeah, I mean, it's possible, like, that Terrifier 3 could get made somewhere down the pipe, but, like, he seemed like that really wasn't, but, like, Terrifier 3 got made, uh, just a few years after Terrifier 2, right?
Keck: So...
Kevin Dougherty: Yeah, yeah.
Keck: I'm just saying, like, I could see us looking back at this while we're watching Terrifier Part 8.
Kevin Dougherty: In space.
Keck: you know and hey never say never well out of the three how would you rank them you this was your favorite one two three okay yeah we're were the exact same yeah yeah and i mean all hollows eve would be like my least but you know
Kevin Dougherty: He said no he thought he would never go to space, but I think if you go i think if you hit 10, you have to go to space at that point.
Kevin Dougherty: 1, 2, 3. No. 1, 2, 3, probably. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, 2 had some great
Kevin Dougherty: Yeah, I mean to add that the great uh kill and the with uh, the thanksgiving dinner and and all that ah volunteer Yeah, and and but like Yeah, there were some good kills in this one But like it was almost at the same time where you were just like eh Like like some of the kills I was just like yeah, that's not that special like you you didn't top yourself in this one Yeah
Keck: Oh yeah. All of them had good kills.
Keck: You have a favorite scene? Aside from Art knocking her around. Which, yeah, I like the lot too.
Kevin Dougherty: Yeah, where they're all tied to the chair and like uh, he puts the fucking uh rat thing in there and and um forces that down or third No, I don't know.
Keck: Yeah.
Keck: Yeah.
Kevin Dougherty: I think the chainsaw scene was no it's either the chainsaw scene or the bar scene with the same Oh Yeah That was an unnecessary scene Why is that like you could have cut that all out too, but yeah, you know
Keck: My favorite was the mall scene when the kid opens the prayer and it just blows away all the children.
Keck: i like them all I like the mall scene. that that That was just my favorite scene.
Kevin Dougherty: When does he start using fucking bombs? That was ridiculous.
Keck: well he he seems like the type of guy that would never use a gun and then like randomly he'll just be like fuck it and pulls out a Glock and just starts blowing people away like you know what I mean he's got a lot of shit in there
Kevin Dougherty: yeah yeah and yes I guess we don't know what's in that fucking bag trash bag that he was always carrying around. yeah
Keck: but I mean the only other memorable scene and I mean it's fucked up to say but I mean it was over the top and they obviously meant it to be shocking I mean you know I like the infamous a girl cut in half scene was when Vicky takes a broken shard of glass and starts masturbating to art like chopping this guy up and making him suffer and she's masturbating with a shard of glass
Kevin Dougherty: oh Yeah, yeah That was that was like the when she comes out of the top right in the beginning has been yeah Yeah, yeah Yeah
Keck: And yeah, that happened.
Keck: Yeah, I think so. She hears, like, art brutalizing a guy, and she becomes ah demonically sexually aroused. And yeah, takes a shard of glass to her crotch. So that happened.
Keck: um but uh yeah that was my that was my least favorite um but yeah Terrifier 4 I'm definitely gonna check out as soon as it comes out so you know that's saying something in itself you know that you still have an audience and yeah but yeah yeah yeah yeah that's just the way it is
Kevin Dougherty: ah
Kevin Dougherty: Yeah.
Kevin Dougherty: you
Kevin Dougherty: Yeah, we're looking at something, of but we'll see another one. yeah ah Then, I um mean, I've also seen a Strange Darling and The Substance.
Kevin Dougherty: I don't know if you've seen either of those two.
Keck: Strange Darling was like my favorite out of all your recommendations. I really liked it. um What was your reaction to that?
Kevin Dougherty: Yeah, i think so ah I think Strange Darling and The Substance are going to be my top two. I need do need to do another rewatch Strange Darling, but I've watched The Substance twice now. And ah yeah, I love The Substance. But yeah, Strange Darling, they were both movies that I went in knowing nothing about.
Keck: Yeah, you you had told me to go in cold and um I had like heard something about the substance that didn't even really make sense about drug dealing.
Kevin Dougherty: um
Keck: But like, you know that really didn't give much away because you know, it goes fucking berserk.
Kevin Dougherty: Yeah.
Keck: But a strange darling, which you know you had recommended to me, um yeah I went in totally cold. And what caught me was that I was so... um you know I mean, I don't know, focused and into it.
Keck: And I mean, two thirds of the movie are pretty much just two people talking in a car, very confined space, just two people talking, nothing else going on.
Keck: And then two people in a enclosed motel room that was, you know, a very small, sleazy motel.
Kevin Dougherty: And then in a house.
Keck: And again, no, it was a motel.
Kevin Dougherty: Yeah.
Keck: Yeah.
Kevin Dougherty: No, I'm saying that then in a house at the end.
Keck: Yeah, but that I'm talking about i'm talking about like the first half or the first two, if you put it in thirds, at least half of the movie was just them in the car and then them in the motel.
Kevin Dougherty: There was like three. like
Kevin Dougherty: Oh yeah, yeah.
Keck: I think it was a little bit more than half of the runtime. And it was still like, you know, I was very interested. And that just, I didn't really know the guy that played the sheriff. I'm not sure what his name is or if I so have seen him in anything else before. So he was kind of like a newcomer for me. And the same thing for The Electric Lady. I did not recognize the actress off the top of my head.
Kevin Dougherty: The electric lady?
Keck: the electric lady was the serial killer in the movie she's the guy that picked up yeah they i just assume you have yeah so there yeah watch
Kevin Dougherty: Oh, right, right, right. Well, spoilers. If you haven't seen Strange Darling, and the if the count it's a game where you're not sure, well, I mean, yeah, you're not sure who, she's just called the lady in the in the film. ah Yeah, I didn't see her or anything before. The guy I somewhat recognized
Keck: Did you, I wasn't sure maybe if it was like the beard and mustache, like if he did.
Kevin Dougherty: It was the mustache that threw me off. But ah he was he was in the first Smile movie.
Keck: Yeah, I wasn't sure.
Kevin Dougherty: That's where I recognized him from.
Keck: Okay, yeah see, that's the thing I missed.
Kevin Dougherty: When I went back and looked at him, I didn't.
Keck: I missed the smile movies. That was the big thing I meant to watch and I did not watch. I watched ah another film called Kata Lake instead, which I'm sure we're gonna talk about in the future, but that's, it just recently came out.
Kevin Dougherty: I haven't seen that one, so yeah.
Keck: But yeah, for Strange Darling, like I said, the first half, you know, it's just two people in a car, two people in a motel room. If you're able to keep the audience engaged with like just that, like that's, you know, that just speaks to the caliber of the acting and um the fantastically written script that I thought that maybe had. And then we get, you know, you want to take, well, I should say this.
Keck: There's a pretty big goddamn twist in this movie.
Kevin Dougherty: Oh yeah, yeah.
Keck: Do you want to talk a little about that? Because I thought that the guy was the killer.
Kevin Dougherty: Well you're not a smart you kind already said it when you said the electric lady it was the serial killer, you already said the twist.
Keck: Well, I mean, yeah, I guess I did. Well, you know, all right, that was my fuck up, my bad. But I mean, yeah, the whole movie set up to make you think that the guy is the killer.
Kevin Dougherty: yeah
Keck: I was just calling her the electric lady, and you seem to not know who I was talking about.
Kevin Dougherty: Yeah, because I don't remember, I didn't remember her being, because I saw it when it was in theater, so I didn't remember her, like, your name.
Keck: So, yeah.
Keck: yeah she's apparently like one of the most like brutal and notorious so serial killers alive and I actually had to look it up afterwards because you know they tried to do like uh the whole like um you know this yeah this is all based on a true story and I actually was like I don't remember yeah I was like i don't really know
Kevin Dougherty: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Kevin Dougherty: Well, based on the true story thing, yeah, yeah. I did the same thing. why I looked it up and I was like, is there a fucking real? Yeah. And I was like, oh, they did a bar go on us. but
Keck: Yeah, because I mean, most of the serial the female serial killers I know used poison on their victims. There was a famous nurse, and there were a few other ones, and you know poison was usually like ah they're wet.
Kevin Dougherty: Yeah.
Keck: But I was like ah you know like, I wanted to make sure that I wasn't just totally ignorant of like this prolific, young, beautiful femme fatale. And yeah, it was totally made up.
Kevin Dougherty: Yeah, but it was still fucking fantastic. It definitely kept me like I was like, oh, where's this going? I was like, oh, and then even with the the twist, once you do find out, you're still i and it's still like a cat and mouse fucking game between her and this guy.
Keck: yeah
Kevin Dougherty: And it's still really like, oh, shit, is she going to get caught? Is she going to get away? Like, like, I still thought it was really well done.
Keck: Yeah.
Kevin Dougherty: And like, they're both pretty like he was only in that one other movie and he wasn't even like ah yeah Like the main star in smiley was just like a kind of like a secondary background actor I mean to the live recognized.
Keck: So you looked up his credentials and he's only been in two feature films.
Kevin Dougherty: ah Yeah, I mean
Keck: But he's been in more than just two films or, you know, he's only been in two films and the rest are like shorts or something.
Kevin Dougherty: like he was in he was only a little bit in smile too he was in smile okay but uh the passenger mother may i what comes around oh he was in scream the 2022 one yeah
Keck: Yeah, i I don't know. I think I did say it, but what I wouldn't recognize him, but I mean...
Kevin Dougherty: he's been but he's only started around i don't know what 2018 it looks like okay it goes
Keck: Yeah, so he's a relatively relatively new actor. But yeah, his his performance was great.
Kevin Dougherty: It goes further back. Oh, nevermind. He's been in a bunch of stuff, but nothing like...
Keck: Oh, all right. Well, read regardless of what he's all been in, ah his acting was fantastic because um with the writing ah in the introductory scene where you see him chasing her, he goes through that house and he's acting like a real stalker.
Kevin Dougherty: Yeah, you can watch. Yeah.
Kevin Dougherty: Yeah.
Keck: with at a 45 fucking rifle and he's I mean to make the twist better in the writing every time he goes and shoots in the place where she thinks he's hiding in you know the cat and mouse game in the house he goes here kitty kitty so like when he was saying that i'm like oh man this guy's a sadistic stalker i'm thinking he like and she's wearing like nurses scrubs so i'm thinking like oh man he's had her down in his like rape torture dungeon probably for like weeks or months or something like that and she just broke free
Kevin Dougherty: Yeah.
Keck: and to be able to turn that all around to that guy being like, not only like severely traumatized, but she made him relapse. He basically does the Popeye thing from Wolf of Wall Street.
Keck: She drugs him with ketamine, and to get out of the K -hole, he gets up to the bureau and just starts snorting piles of cocaine.
Kevin Dougherty: yeah
Keck: And like you find out that he was like you know an addict that's like in recovery.
Kevin Dougherty: Yeah, yeah.
Keck: you know and i mean so like you know And he had been sober for a while and was a respected sheriff. The one guy I did recognize at the end of the movie was one of the sheriff backup sheriffs that got ah called in ah from Breaking Bad.
Keck: I'm sure you recognized his character too. He was Hank's partner.
Kevin Dougherty: Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, OK.
Keck: Breaking Bad, I think his name was, I can't remember what his name, I think his name was Danny in Breaking Bad, but I recognized him like right off the bat.
Kevin Dougherty: Oh, yeah. Oh, and you know, did you recognize? Did you see who did this? Was you reading the credits? Did you see who did the so cinematography for fee for this movie? Was Gene Yvonne?
Keck: No, no, I don't have it like Russ where, you know, I'd be like, oh, of course, I knew that was the costume designer.
Kevin Dougherty: Well, you would recognize his name because it was G. Yvonne Rubisi.
Keck: Oh, no shit. I did not know that.
Kevin Dougherty: Yeah.
Keck: I did not know that.
Kevin Dougherty: Yeah, he did the
Keck: I didn't actually know... Well, I knew that Giovanni was into like ah other things outside of like just acting. like I knew he played producer roles in like a lot of films that he didn't act in, but I actually did not know that he um was a costume designer at all.
Keck: i Is that the only time?
Kevin Dougherty: you know cinematography yeah yeah yeah that was his first uh it was his first film doing cinematography on and uh yeah i thought it was fantastic yeah i was like what are you talking about let's just talk about cinematography yeah that i don't know i just know it was his first uh
Keck: Oh, cementography, sorry. No, I did not know that. I did not know that he played around in that.
Keck: Really? Yeah, I didn't mean to say costume design. That's what I meant. Yeah, I don't know. But, ah well, has he directed anything before?
Kevin Dougherty: It was his first cinematography gig. I can look real quick. But yeah, I mean, I thought the cinematography was great. The story was great.
Kevin Dougherty: Everything about it was.
Keck: yeah i Yeah, like I said, the twist was done, like excellent.
Kevin Dougherty: Just an episode of Sleepy Pete and then a couple of music videos.
Keck: um Wait, was... um And who was the director of Strange Darling?
Kevin Dougherty: That was... Now I don't know about the page.
Keck: Because I feel like I just watched an M. Night Shyamalan movie recently and I don't think he was the director but
Kevin Dougherty: JTMolar?
Keck: Okay, so it was not, I watched an M.
Kevin Dougherty: We don't know.
Keck: Night Shyamalan movie, like his latest one recently.
Kevin Dougherty: Trap?
Keck: I can't remember what it is.
Kevin Dougherty: The one with the...
Keck: Oh, Trap, yeah.
Kevin Dougherty: Rapia.
Keck: Yep, that's Wiz. That's the other movie aside from Strange Darling. But do you have any like final thoughts on Strange Darling that you want to mention?
Keck: Because like I said, I loved it. And um I liked the very ending. um when she ah talks to the sheriff and he's like, you know, why the fuck did you kill all these people? And she reveals that she has some kind of mental illness. And because she seems to mainly have like her aggro towards men.
Keck: you know she tells the women yeah i'm sure you notice that that she kind of tells the women like look i don't want to kill you but i will like you know like and tries to like let them off but like she ah appears to have something where if you're a man she says that she sees demons often so i don't know if they didn't really get into that in the story i don't know if she had like sexual abuse growing up but apparently it doesn't really matter because by the way they looked at her it seemed like she was like known to have killed like hundreds or something like that you know and she always carved like el into their flesh and uh yeah i really liked it um i i thought it was really impressive for uh the very few uh locations it was uh filmed in but uh anything else for you
Kevin Dougherty: Okay.
Kevin Dougherty: Well, no, I just thought it was fantastic. And I definitely think we'll be mentioning it again when it comes to our our best of the year, that's for sure. Because it was my favorite.
Keck: yeah yeah yeah really good um other than that um like i said i saw a movie uh called kado cabo lake
Kevin Dougherty: I definitely want to watch it again when it comes to streaming.
Kevin Dougherty: Cata Lake?
Keck: hercado like yeah um
Kevin Dougherty: I think it's Cata Lake? yeah one
Keck: it just came out i believe it came out on hbo came out just like a month ago but um before discussing it i want you to watch it and give me your feedback
Kevin Dougherty: Yeah, so maybe we'll save that and we'll talk about the substance ah on the next.
Keck: on
Keck: Yeah, definitely next time we meet, I want to talk about the substance.
Kevin Dougherty: Yeah.
Keck: I mean, it was ah it was an incredible um incredible film, really. um Like I said, I went into it cold, and if I had known more about it,
Keck: I think it would have been like a lot less of like a surprise for me. like I think my like ah enjoyment overall was like not looking at any reviews or anything like that, but um I think that that deserves like a larger conversation. So that's all I have for tonight, Doc. Any closing words or wisdom you want to know?
Kevin Dougherty: Uh, yeah, I mean, if you get a chance before our next cast, if you have, if you're listening and you haven't seen it, uh, the only place that you can watch the substance right now is on MUBI.
Kevin Dougherty: That's M -U -B -I. Some, uh, they're the producers of it.
Keck: What is that?
Kevin Dougherty: I don't know, some news service that they're, I guess they're producing and they're doing their own thing.
Keck: Oh, man.
Kevin Dougherty: yeah so there's a they don't have much on there uh but you can get a free trial of it uh you get a free seven day trial watch the substance and then cancel it if you want yeah because i don't know what else is on there so i think the um because it's uh this i forget her name but uh it was a french uh lady that did um
Keck: And then cancel. yeah
Keck: but
Kevin Dougherty: strange darlin and her original one revenge is on there which is also on amc plus and shutter and revenge is worth checking out as well uh but yeah it's it's definitely uh worth doing so for for a seven day trial just to watch the substance and again don't read any reviews just go and watch it dummy morgan's fantastic performance dennis great ben up andform and margaret quay fantastic performance performance
Keck: Yeah, yeah.
Keck: Yeah. Yeah, yeah, she does.
Keck: Yeah.
Kevin Dougherty: But I doubt anybody will get any rewards because we know how the rewards people feel about horror movies.
Keck: yeah Yeah, you just can't, you just, yeah, yeah. but ah mayor Anyway, but yeah, that's ah that's all I got.
Kevin Dougherty: All right. Yeah, that's it. So follow us in the Facebook group. but um That's all I got. And thanks for listening. And we'll catch you again before Thanksgiving, hopefully.
Keck: and All right. Hope everybody had a happy Halloween.
Kevin Dougherty: hope everybody
Keck: Peace.
Kevin Dougherty: Yeah, peace.
