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kevindoc81: All right, welcome back to Fright Central. I'm Doc back here again with Keck, as always, and hopefully we are going to bang out a second episode real quick and not have any problems. So in case we...
Keck: What are you talking about? This is a totally new episode on a totally different day, on a totally different night.
kevindoc81: yeah very
Keck: We're a bit serious about this fucking cast, man. We're on a regular schedule. We take notes. It's not just some bullshit discussion. You think we're just like sitting around, like getting high, fucking having something and just recording it and putting up on the internet?
Keck: We are serious podcasters.
kevindoc81: Yeah, it's a fucking school night.
Keck: Yeah, sure.
kevindoc81: Yeah, fucking work tomorrow.
Keck: Yeah.
kevindoc81: It's late for both of us. But I'm off Friday for our birthday. So but don't care. I'll ill push through tomorrow. I'll see street trash at the new bev. And now unfortunately, I couldn't go see Hush Mike Flanagan.
kevindoc81: doing a Q and &A tonight.
Keck: Oh, really?
kevindoc81: But yeah, I didn't get done working time and they were sold out and you had to be there like an hour ahead of time if you want like the last few tickets. So I was like, I'm not gonna even bother talking about that.
Keck: And it was just to be in the room with Flanagan and where he answered questions.
kevindoc81: Well, you gonna watch his first movie, watch his first movie, Hush?
Keck: Oh, so there was a screening.
kevindoc81: Yeah.
Keck: Oh, okay.
kevindoc81: Yeah.
Keck: So it was a screening and a Q &A afterwards.
kevindoc81: Yeah.
Keck: We simply don't get that shit, really. or I mean, in New York City, maybe. there was that one theater that was real famous for it that closed in Texas, in Houston.
kevindoc81: Yeah, you've
Keck: We actually talked about it when it happened on a cast. I can't remember. It was after somebody passed away and, yeah, it was a...
kevindoc81: Oh yeah, forget they do stuff.
Keck: It was just sad it was well i mean was kind of like a sad story, but like it was like a theater where like famous actors would like go to all the time. like A lot of like just moviegoers were like recruited as talent and went on to have a career.
Keck: like It was like something really special. I can't remember exactly what it was called.
kevindoc81: Well, uh, I mean, Kevin Smith had bought out his old, uh, theater that was in his small castle and he does events there all the time where he'll have, uh, screenings and Q and A's with, uh, and all of the guests come in and stuff there.
Keck: Yeah, I remember hearing about that, yeah.
kevindoc81: So that's probably the closest thing you can get to.
Keck: Somebody back in the day said that you could see him and his cohort and yeah, um um um ah somebody told me back in the day, you could see them in New Hope.
kevindoc81: Jason Muse.
Keck: They were like a feature, they were, you know, like, I don't know if they had a house around there or maybe it was just Smith. And he had like a house in the neighborhood, but somebody was telling me that, you know, he would run into him at like the shops on the main strip in New Hope.
kevindoc81: No.
Keck: But like I never heard of him like living in Pennsylvania or anywhere around here.
kevindoc81: now No, he was born and raised in North Jersey.
Keck: I thought he was like pretty much like born and raised, so Cal.
Keck: Oh, yeah, but i'm what I mean, what yeah, born and raised was bad. I meant like as a resident, he was like pretty much like living in Southern California.
kevindoc81: oh Oh yeah, yeah, now he spends most of his time in between LA and Jersey because he flies by all the time.
Keck: Yeah, born and raised was like a very, it was not I was talking about like, you know, he he was solely residing in Southern California.
kevindoc81: Yeah. I was like, what are you talking about? He's in the Jersey border grade.
kevindoc81: Yeah.
Keck: I never heard of him having oh I could be totally wrong, you know, and I mean maybe this was like Well, no, he was already famous because dude was telling me you'd see him I was like, hey, how's it going that like so he was definitely like a known guy I was thinking maybe it could have been like earlier in his like career.
Keck: But yeah, uh, but somebody had told me that a wild actually more than one people had told me about that.
kevindoc81: Yeah.
Keck: I Don't know why I never heard anything about but anyway, I
kevindoc81: But anyway, we're going to talk about the Chainsaw Awards that aired last week.
Keck: yeah You don't want to go back to Kevin Smith and like where he may have lived.
kevindoc81: But yeah, I mean, it comes with all of everything he does.
Keck: But he bought his he bought his own theater and he does stuff like that.
kevindoc81: and and Yeah, we're in, you know, near where His old town there was a theater that was like his main theater that he used to go to all the time.
kevindoc81: He ended up buying that out. And his movie that just released maybe a month or two ago is called The 430 Movie.
Keck: Where is that theater located?
kevindoc81: as I want to say Highland Park. Yeah, it's a Highland Theater. I think that's what it used to be called. and Now it's called a smod Smod Castle Theater.
kevindoc81: But yeah, his whole movie that he just did was shot at that theater. But it's kind of based on like a younger version of him.
Keck: uh... that's cool yeah well tonight we are going to talk about the chainsaw wards but i can't remember i think uh...
kevindoc81: you know So like him like you know going to the movies and him and his friends like sneaking into movies and shit like that. So yeah, it was fun.
Keck: you had told me i had uh... first uh... said this uh... before we start recording the last cast we did uh... last week uh... and uh...
Keck: And ah just in case I missed it as news, well, first off, like every cast, I think we should have see if there's any Friday the 13th news.
Keck: If there is, speak it. If not, just say Friday the 13th. Again, no news. And you just have it very angry and tense like that at the beginning of every cast.
Keck: So there's always going to be some news and it's going to be based on Friday the 13th. But only news I had, and again, forgive me if I'm repeating myself, but the show that I'm looking for in terms of like sci -fi horror that I'm looking forward to the most is Severance, which is on Apple TV. and Doc did a cast on it.
Keck: either earlier this year or late last year and it has been announced that it is going to resume with season two.
Keck: I think Apple puts them all out at once and that date is
kevindoc81: No, they do week to week, I believe.
Keck: Oh, they do week to week? Oh, okay. i didn't I wasn't sure because usually when I see stuff on Apple, it's already been out for a while.
kevindoc81: Yeah. Yeah.
Keck: So I wasn't sure if they did that. So they're not Netflix. But they have labeled it for January 2025. However, there is at least as of last week, there was no actual start date.
Keck: on imdb and it has been pushed back twice already so i wouldn't say that i have the highest confidence that it will begin in january 2025 but i'm gonna keep my hopes up i know the entire thing's filmed it's just you know uh when apple decides to uh you know get off its ass and start dropping those fucking episodes, man.
Keck: Like, it's fun.
kevindoc81: Yeah, seriously. Um, did hear that they hired, what's her name? Amber mid thunder from, uh, prey. She's been hired a
Keck: Is that the one, the main, like, the karate check from Norwegian?
kevindoc81: main chick from France. Yeah. Yes. Yes.
Keck: Yeah.
kevindoc81: Uh, she got hired to be on the second season of, legacy of monsters, the Godzilla show, their apple that I did hear.
Keck: Oh, cool.
kevindoc81: But I don't have any probably 13th news. i Last I heard was they were talking about shooting in Australia at the end of this year for a Halloween debut for next year, but who knows?
Keck: yeah
Keck: I thought when you for some reason said the last thing I heard is that they were thinking about shooting and I thought you were going to say the director.
kevindoc81: but Well, it just hired the guy from Big Black Sails.
Keck: like they do
kevindoc81: but so
Keck: are thinking about killing killing the executive producers and finding more money or shooting the director or shooting the writers.
kevindoc81: It just hired a new show to go around.
Keck: ah ah Sorry, that shit's funny to me.
kevindoc81: Anyway. Friday the 13th, I mean. champion
Keck: and There is no Friday the 13th news back.
kevindoc81: Fangoria Chainsaw Awards. It was later than normal this year. and First of all, my biggest problem with this is I don't know what their cutoff date is for
Keck: book why was it later first do you know
kevindoc81: I don't i will't know. I don't know. They didn't even say why.
Keck: all right so there
kevindoc81: I guess, you know, logistics.
Keck: oh
kevindoc81: I don't know. But you know how like the Emmys will be like, okay, here's like, they might not do theirs to like, what, like April or May, but they have a specific cutoff date. It's usually like June to the July.
kevindoc81: Like I have no idea what they because like, they had some movies from all the way back in January of last year to like movies that came out like this summer that were on this list.
Keck: Why was it later first? Do you know? yeah So you're saying like their their span of like what falls into the timeline of what we're going to.
kevindoc81: So it was like,
kevindoc81: Yeah, so many. Yeah. and And like, sure, they put up the, they I mean, this is all fan, you know, surveyed, like they, they released the, the thing you can go online and fill out like what your, you know, pick a pick all your favorite things.
Keck: Yeah.
kevindoc81: So it's not like industry people, it's all fan voted on.
Keck: Yeah, to some degree I actually take that as like higher than like just like some critic assholes that I that might be people I've never seen eye to eye with Yeah, you just want to know what's yeah exactly like that's
kevindoc81: Yeah, yeah.
kevindoc81: I do too, I just need, I just need a clear date, a cutoff because I can't like, yeah. Cause there'll be some stuff on here that I'll be like, okay, but why'd you include that? But not this, you know, they came out around the same time or something like that. And like some of these categories are like, okay, I don't even remember voting on this. Like this is out of nowhere.
kevindoc81: and then there was uh and then it asked it always asked you like what your what the best kill was it was like okay but what what what's my time frame on this best kill you know i mean and and it's like i can't remember a year and a half ago what my favorite kill was you know i mean so like
Keck: Yeah, I'm actually looking to see if they have any information about that.
kevindoc81: like
Keck: And I see what you mean.
Keck: So encompassing all of 2023 and the first half of 2024.
kevindoc81: yeah that's a lot yeah they need to do it from like i could see whenever they're about to start let's say like the end of august like the 31st of august is when they should do the cut off and it should be but yeah that's definitive yeah but i mean if you're not showing the uh if you're not showing the the chainsaw awards to the following in october that's a long time to do an award show so you might want to do
Keck: That's vague. Yeah. So yeah.
Keck: Well, all of 2023, that's They're saying all that book.
Keck: Yeah. And they haven't published any information you found?
kevindoc81: But i don't they I don't know, but they need to do like September 1st through August 31st.
Keck: Yeah, exactly. now like You would have that on the website.
kevindoc81: So you're only doing a year of movies and not a year and a half of movies.
Keck: that's
kevindoc81: Yeah.
Keck: yeah yeah that's yeah that's Yeah, because it's normally every year, right?
kevindoc81: so
Keck: It encompasses 12 months.
kevindoc81: Yeah, they try to I mean I think last year was like a little bit earlier But like yeah a lot of times like I mean I like I don't mind the award show being in October like that's fine It's just a year and a half worth of fucking shit is a lot of fucking shit And then it seems like some shit that that would be you know the favorites for this year Kind of getting knocked off by something that would have been like a good last year or something you know what I mean like so I
Keck: And you're certain you have not been able to find on the line when the cutoff date was because yeah I get like it's you're talking about of ridiculous amount of content for you know if it's in October you would think like it would be till September 1st like you said or Well, they had the film it so I mean I would I would just assume September
kevindoc81: Yeah.
kevindoc81: Yeah.
kevindoc81: Well, they filmed it somewhat. They filmed it somewhat live, but they say live, but I don't know how live it is because it's like it's not on a stage or anything like that.
Keck: When did it first air?
kevindoc81: This past Sunday on the 13th.
Keck: This past on so it could feasibly be October 1st Yeah, yeah, so that would be
kevindoc81: Yeah, but I mean you want enough time for people to vote as well. So I would say maybe I would say July, even like July 31. So August 1, July 31.
Keck: Yeah, even even even the end of June, because you're still talking about that would be what January, February, March, April, May, that's that's a year and a half.
kevindoc81: Yeah.
kevindoc81: Yeah.
Keck: So if it's
kevindoc81: Well, that's what I'm saying. You shouldn't even june August to July to June 31st of the next year, July 31st of the next year.
Keck: Yeah. Yeah, it should be 12 months of content or 11 months of content would be all right.
kevindoc81: like that
kevindoc81: Yeah. yeah whether Yeah. Whether you want to do January to December or the middle of the month to the middle of the month.
Keck: Yeah.
kevindoc81: You just can't have like.
Keck: But at the very least, you should publish exactly from what point to what point you're going to and they have not done that.
kevindoc81: Yeah, because it yeah, it seems like there's some movies that like that would get released and then there would be and then there's other ones that are are included. And it's like, wait, this movie came out like a month before this one.
kevindoc81: Why isn't that one included on this list or whatever? i Like, you know what I mean? Like.
Keck: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
kevindoc81: it oh
Keck: Well, they so they were not very specific. I mean, at we at least in terms of what's been released in 2024.
kevindoc81: Yeah, I'll go through some of the nominees for like I'll list the movies. I'm not going to list everybody's name and everything.
Keck: last Last question I have before you get into that is they're doing, that like you said, like 2023 and 2024, they didn't have a chainsaw awards last year.
kevindoc81: Yeah.
kevindoc81: No, they did. Yeah. That's still available on YouTube, though. Actually, it's still available on Twitter to watch.
Keck: And but what I don't understand, though, and just there what did it encompass last year? It didn't encompass 2023.
kevindoc81: No, it encompassed like 2022 and 2023, I think.
Keck: Then why would they say that this train saw awards encompasses
kevindoc81: This year is including 2023 and 2024 almost. You know what I mean?
Keck: what But wouldn't they be wouldn't there be redundancy? if there Wouldn't they be nominating movies for a second time if they're doing both 2023 and 2023?
kevindoc81: i'd I'd have to go back and look at the winner to see what the crossover is.
Keck: It's confusing, yeah. but The bottom line is Fingori is doing some stuff that seems to be confusing to me and Doc.
kevindoc81: Yeah.
Keck: Maybe normal people, like you're like, dude, what are you dumbasses talking about?
kevindoc81: Yeah, yeah.
Keck: I'm turning this off. And yeah that that's totally fine, but like based from what you're saying, is like it's it sounds very confusing.
kevindoc81: Yeah, yeah, exactly.
Keck: And that they're not you know yeah being clear about what they're considering.
kevindoc81: Yeah.
kevindoc81: Yeah.
Keck: So anyway.
kevindoc81: Well, the first, uh, the first category was ah ah so they do it, they did it like randomly, which, uh, which is fine. Uh, so the first one was best supporting performance. And the, the, some of the movies were knock at the cabin, talk to me, Renfield, infinity pool, Abigail, I saw a TV glow, the blackening and an evil dead rise.
kevindoc81: And I'll Lisa Sutherland one for evil, dead rise. Which I agree with, I thought she was great. you know she was though She was the mom that turned into the...
Keck: Yeah, but out of out of all those ah out of all those, I've only seen two, and Evil Dead Rise is one of them, so I'm gonna go with that.
kevindoc81: Yeah,
Keck: But yeah, I i well i love her. you I really like her.
kevindoc81: yeah if you liked, if you liked Ready or Not, did you just see the movie Ready or ready or Not with Gary?
Keck: Yep.
kevindoc81: If you like that, you'll like Abigail. It's the same same same directors. So, I just rewatched it recently, it was great.
Keck: Yeah. Yeah. She was she was amazing in the evil dead rise and I also had watched a little bit of like a beast behind the scenes like it wasn't really behind scenes he was in the interview with her and she was talking about like how Physically challenging that role I mean because most of it was you know all like CGI type shit but like she had to a girl into all these awkward angles and I
kevindoc81: Well, that would be like, yeah, she went on, I only watched like a little bit of it, because you'll see when I got to the, when I get to the next category, I turned it off.
Keck: you know what I mean now yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah
kevindoc81: But like, she and like talked to she was like, Oh, yeah, I share this with my stunt person, and because she did a lot of that, that recording and stuff like that. So But yeah, so the next category was best first feature.
kevindoc81: Well, first, I want to go back because Talk to Me was on here. And yes, that came out last year, but I could have swore that had won, that should, at least have should have won an award last year for or something.
kevindoc81: But then I don't remember seeing it anywhere else on this list, so.
Keck: Well, see, that was what I was trying to get ah ah to before we started with the awards, is wouldn't there be a redundancy issue here if they had already done a 2023?
kevindoc81: Yeah, I think they're all on. yeah
Keck: So, I mean, I don't know if I had known about this before doing the cast, like I just found out from you, I would have probably done some research on it.
Keck: But it sounds like you tried to like figure out what the fuck was going on. And I just don't know.
kevindoc81: Yeah, I mean, I probably should have looked at last year's as well just to see like when about when they cut it off.
Keck: Yeah.
kevindoc81: But yeah, I don't know. It's weird.
Keck: Unless like good the people publishing it got it wrong and like they're not actually considering 2023 awards, but at this point we can only go by what we what they've put out.
kevindoc81: But
kevindoc81: yeah well, most of most of these other movies like Evil Dead Rise and all are the only ones that came out that I can think of that came out this year where I saw a TV glow.
Keck: So anyway.
kevindoc81: and Abigail. And I think Knock at the Cabin might have been this year, or was that last year? I don't know. But I think everything else was last year.
Keck: if it was this year it was very early early I didn't say it
kevindoc81: Yeah, because I know Abigail was like January, I think, or February. So that was sort I remember that being pretty early. but So best first feature, the the nominees were Angry Black Girl and Her Monster,
kevindoc81: Birth, Rebirth, It Lives Inside, Stop Motion, and Skinema Rink. And Skinema Rink won, and I turned the fucking show off because how did that fucking - how is it - it's got fucking like 4 .3 on IMDB.
kevindoc81: And I - this - this is the first movie that I've walked out of the theater in like 20 some fucking years.
Keck: Oh, that was the movie. Yeah, you were telling me about we were talking about we were talking about the worst movies we had even ever seen. And we were talking about how we were in the theaters watching House of the Dead.
kevindoc81: Yeah.
Keck: and know were it were yeah, like at the end, it was literally just clips of people playing the game, which was like on Nintendo.
kevindoc81: You watched the whole movie? Yeah.
kevindoc81: Yeah.
Keck: And yeah, yeah it was like, and it was an arcade game. Like it was just somebody there with a ah ah plastic gun shooting the screen.
kevindoc81: Like i I had to ask Miner and he said the we walked out of Hannibal Rising.
Keck: And we still stayed.
kevindoc81: of like I think it was the part where he pulls out like the samurai sword and he was like I'm done this is too ridiculous I probably would have stayed if I was by myself but since he was leaving I was like fuck it all fucking go so like that tells you normal i yeah that's how much I sit through fucking shit this I could not
Keck: i would have i would have I would have stayed and just started laughing. what did He must have had like high expectations for that.
kevindoc81: I don't know what expectations he had for it. But yeah, I mean it was fucking stupid. But yeah, I was sort of stayed through it because it's like still you can still, you know, watch it.
Keck: Was that the one in Italy?
kevindoc81: I don't know. I don't know. I don't remember anything about it. So for like, he pulls out a samurai sword or something.
Keck: Which part no, I'm just saying which part was it in the hand like the Hannibal Oh Without like the the prequel thing.
kevindoc81: It's like the one he's a kid. It's like.
Keck: Oh, yeah, I don't think I actually ever saw it Wait, did he go get his money back or he just like bounced from the theater?
kevindoc81: yes three Yeah. Yeah. I think we, I don't think we made it that far into it, but, uh, yeah, I think we did.
kevindoc81: but well I mean, I don't know.
Keck: Oh
kevindoc81: This is fucking like 20 some years ago.
Keck: Yeah, yeah, yeah, and I'm sorry anyway.
kevindoc81: Yeah.
Keck: I I just I didn't actually know this story I didn't realize he just walked out like I did not know that What was the pot
kevindoc81: Yeah. well the skinner rank was nothing but like you know handy cam like dark hallways and it's like the ceiling corners and shit the floor and they and like I don't fucking know.
kevindoc81: I left 15 minutes into it and I googled, I was like, is this movie nothing but fucking shots of the ceiling? And it was like, yes. And I was like, I'm fucking done with this. And I've heard other people be like, dude, I fast forward this whole thing just and just to see.
kevindoc81: And and it was like nothing but that too. And like, i I don't know. It's like something that should have been like 10, 15 minutes total. They made into like a full length movie and it was fucking awful.
Keck: And in the first 15 minutes, you could decipher no plot. It was just shots of the dark ceiling and then corners and stuff.
kevindoc81: It was like, it'd be like a fucking shot of a fucking ceiling or like the corner of a ceiling or a doorway or like the back of somebody's head or something like that. It was like, no, no,
Keck: And it was like somebody with like a flashlight like going around. like i'm i'm trying that there's I'm just trying to understand, was there dialogue?
kevindoc81: am i yeah
kevindoc81: now no, there was fucking in the first 15 minutes. I don't remember there being any dialogue.
Keck: It's a bunch of artsy assholes.
kevindoc81: Yeah.
Keck: And they like were like, oh, well, we need it. There was something there. you know The director was trying to say something that like we know we're supposed to be smart enough to understand, but we don't.
Keck: So we're going to vote for it.
kevindoc81: Yeah. It should have been, it should have been a 15 minutes short and that's it. Like that's, that's a short movie.
Keck: And was a total of 90 minutes.
kevindoc81: That's not a fucking boy. It was like fucking a full hour, hour and a half or something like that. I don't remember what it was.
Keck: and it won and it won and won for what award just to uh best first feature i'm gonna have to check it out
kevindoc81: I laughed after 15 minutes.
kevindoc81: Best first teacher.
kevindoc81: Yeah.
kevindoc81: Yeah. I'd rather watch any of those other ones.
Keck: Because I would say for you for and again the last time you walked out on the movie 20 years ago You did so because the person that you went there with walked out So it would have been kind of awkward if you didn't also leave Yeah, yeah yeah it Exactly.
kevindoc81: Yeah.
Keck: Yeah, unless he said yo, I'm going the UNO I'll be at the bar
kevindoc81: 'all walking home. team
Keck: But yeah, so ah ah the point is is I would think that this would be one of the worst movies ever because it's so rare that you would, especially a theater movie, like it's so rare that, I mean, other than other than Hannibal Rising when you left because Jamie left, what's the last movie you walked out on?
kevindoc81: Yeah, like I'm there for the thing bad. Yeah. like
kevindoc81: That was the last movie.
Keck: So that this is the first movie in your life you've walked out on?
kevindoc81: And I can think of sense that animal rising.
Keck: in theaters.
kevindoc81: Yeah. Everything else that sat through good and bad.
Keck: That's something. That's something. I'm kind of intrigued by this.
kevindoc81: but Yeah, it's it's available streaming. You can watch it on, I think it's on shutter.
Keck: Gotcha.
kevindoc81: Yeah.
Keck: Gotcha.
kevindoc81: Uh, the next category was best nonfiction series or miniseries. Last driving with Joe Bob Briggs one, of course.
Keck: Nice.
kevindoc81: Uh, I don't even know what the, oh I think the other categories were Amityville, Origin of Story, the Boulet Brothers.
Keck: I saw amavel origin story.
kevindoc81: Uh,
Keck: It was not good.
kevindoc81: yeah. Uh, the Enfield Poltergeist and Sven Gulli. I don't know what those are, but, uh, Best documentary feature was Legacy of Texas Chainsaw Massacre.
kevindoc81: The best creature effects one was Evil Dead Rise. I agree with that one. Best makeup was also Evil Dead Rise.
Keck: Yeah, well, I mean, yeah, these, I mean, and yeah I mean, it's like one of the highest budget movies on there probably as well. So I mean,
kevindoc81: Yeah. Oh, I mean, uh, well, best costume design, poor things, one. I still haven't seen that movie.
Keck: See, I feel like we talked about the Chainsaw Awards last year and we mentioned Amityville as maybe winning or so or because we found out that there was something like a hundred different Amityvilles or something.
kevindoc81: I've been interested.
kevindoc81: We did.
kevindoc81: Oh, there was a.
kevindoc81: They had a, they had a best.
Keck: If you put shorts, yeah.
kevindoc81: They had a, they had a category for like best Amityville that year, whatever.
Keck: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
kevindoc81: Cause there was like. the refuge
Keck: So we definitely taught, yeah, well we go back and look at that cast.
kevindoc81: Yeah, best video game text chains on massacre one, but this is over For best video game for last year the text chains on massacre one You know what else came out?
Keck: Best video game?
Keck: I never played it.
kevindoc81: What else came out last year was the evil to evil Resident Evil 4 remake the dead space remake the killer clowns from outer space game and Alan Wake 2 And you think Alan Wake 2 would have won?
Keck: I gotta tell, well, I just started playing some Alan Wake 2. I haven't even gotten into where really anything happens. You just wash up on the shore looking like a naked blob. But the graphics were like really impressive, but the Evil Dead 4 remake
kevindoc81: Resident Evil 4.
Keck: <unk>s I'm sorry, the Resident Evil 4 remake.
kevindoc81: yeah
Keck: The first one, that's a lot of people's favorite Resident Evil. And it got an HD remaster like a year before that.
Keck: And this remake, I mean, is a remake of most people's favorite Resident Evil game. So I would think that it probably, for me, would have been Resident Evil 4 over Alan Wake 2, just based on like the user reviews I've seen.
Keck: Like I said, I have not gotten very far into Alan Wake. I'm still in like kind of like the area where he was figuring shit out. But like I would think Resident Evil 4 would have won.
Keck: I didn't even know Texas Chainsaw Massacre had a game.
kevindoc81: Yeah.
kevindoc81: Yeah, it just, just came out.
Keck: umm here yeah
kevindoc81: So, but yeah, apparently like, you know, it's like those other games, the, you know, four V one, uh, game, the real, what's the real popular one?
Keck: Yeah.
Keck: Yeah. ah So this is an online thing? Yeah, it's...
kevindoc81: It's another dead by daylight as far as I know.
Keck: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
kevindoc81: When I understand like a lot of people, like sure, they started playing it right away, but then, you know, a bunch of players.
Keck: Does it show how many people voted on the Chainsaw Awards site?
kevindoc81: i mean
kevindoc81: No.
Keck: so it doesn't show out how yeah see I'd be interested to see those numbers.
kevindoc81: and we
kevindoc81: Yeah.
Keck: you would think if you know it's all an online
kevindoc81: Like how close to a race it was or something, you know what I mean?
Keck: Yeah, exactly.
kevindoc81: i mean
Keck: And Fangoria is doing this all online, right? You register and you vote online. So you could easily have a counter right there where it would yeah't just show how many people voted.
kevindoc81: Yeah.
Keck: And then you could have percentages. i mean
kevindoc81: Yeah, and it's not it's not like something you can use like, you know, bots and stuff for because you have to like, give them your email address, like you have to register.
Keck: Yeah, you have to put in a one knee. I mean, you could make ah ah you could have like four different email addresses if you want.
kevindoc81: Yeah, yeah.
Keck: But who the fuck is going to try to rig that? Like, you know what I mean?
kevindoc81: Yeah. Why are you gonna?
Keck: like
kevindoc81: Why are you breaking the chainsaw awards?
Keck: Yeah, and I think that that there they would have to have some kind of algorithm that would probably show a pattern if somebody like Alan Wake just suddenly got like 2 ,000 more votes and over like a 24 hour or or like in an hour period or something where somebody was like trying to hack, you would hope they would have something but it sounds like they have provided it very little.
kevindoc81: Yeah.
kevindoc81: Yeah. Yeah. Uh, best cinematography, poor things, one as well.
Keck: Oh yeah, i I'm like halfway through that. That is a very interesting film.
kevindoc81: Yeah. I really want to see it. I just haven't gotten, uh, I haven't gotten to it yet.
Keck: Yeah, ah ah I watched half of it it. The acting is high caliber, so.
kevindoc81: Yeah. Uh, best score was Godzilla minus one.
Keck: Nice.
kevindoc81: Uh, this was a weird category, which I don't remember voting on. It was best. Felicia Rose movie.
Keck: Best what movie?
kevindoc81: Felicia, Felicia Rose shoes.
Keck: Oh, the the actress.
kevindoc81: And, uh, yeah, it was, it was.
Keck: That's a category? is how Was she in a lot of movies like ah ah last year?
kevindoc81: I don't know, but the winner was Craven. I don't know if it's like her best of all time or her best movie of that year. I don't know. Because I don't remember seeing this category until it came out as a best of all time.
Keck: I would just assume it would be in that like, which was ah ah what they're implying is that she was in several movies if it's only urine.
kevindoc81: or it's like Or it's like a lifetime achievement type of award. Like, hey, what's her best one or whatever. There's just a weird one.
Keck: I would think that they would make that in like a separate category, like after like all the winners for like, you know, cinematography or.
kevindoc81: Well, like I said, they just did these randomly. then yeah Best television television series was The Last of Us.
Keck: OK. All right.
kevindoc81: Over Chucky, Fall of House of Usher, Interview of the Vampire, and Yellow Jackets. I don't know if I quite agree with that. I mean, it was good, but over Fall of House of Usher and Yellow Jackets?
Keck: the
Keck: Well... Wait, hold on, get in the eye again?
kevindoc81: like the For Best Television Series, the nominees were Chucky, I don't remember which season, season two or three, Fall of House of Usher, Interview of the Vampire, Last of Us, and Yellow Jackets.
Keck: Never fell on me. Yep.
Keck: Didn't.
Keck: And Last of Us won.
kevindoc81: Yeah.
Keck: Yeah. yeah i i i i agree with i think i agree ah ah based on the game oh wait no this isn't bay i'm sorry this isn't based on uh uh now that you uh i think i'd go with usher
kevindoc81: No, House of Best Television Series. Yeah. I don't know if I agree with that over. us
kevindoc81: Yeah, me too.
Keck: Yeah, i mean to be honest with you, there were there were several episodes of The Last of Us that I could have just skipped.
kevindoc81: Yeah.
Keck: like I really didn't like the one with the that the cannibal people that they like interacted with, where like Joel gets hurt. and like like I didn't really like that one.
Keck: i like yeah i don't know
kevindoc81: It did seem a few of those episodes they did kind of like, you know, would introduce like this villain and then kill him off by the end of the episode.
Keck: Yeah. And then there was one filler episode about a character who apparently was like not even a big character in the game at all. And they made like it the longest episode.
Keck: I mean, there's been a lot of controversy about it, actually. I don't want to get into that. But yeah, I would say I agree with you. I have not seen Interview with the Vampire the show.
Keck: because To my understanding, it was poorly received.
kevindoc81: It shows pretty good.
Keck: but you you think that it's better, it you would definitely like you would definitely recommend it.
kevindoc81: Yeah. Cause it's kinda like, it doesn't necessarily like, you know, clear out, you know, the original series at all, you know, the original movie, it's kinda like, ah ah he's meeting up with like the interviewer the years later.
kevindoc81: that that he had done an interview with in the past and he's kind of retelling the story in like, but with more detail in a way. And obviously like things are, but but if Brad Pitt was black.
Keck: So it's like if Brad Pitt met up with Christian Slater like years later and was like, yeah, I want to like revise some of that story.
Keck: And bla bra pitt with have Brad Pitt Brad Pitt goes out and they're like, what if Brad Pitt just shows up wearing blackface?
kevindoc81: Oh, dude.
Keck: He's like, as you can see, there's been changes in my life.
kevindoc81: Yeah.
Keck: Also, I'd like to revise some parts of that story that I told you about, you know, how I've been alive for 300 years.
kevindoc81: You know, like the whole part where you're maybe white in the story.
Keck: Yeah.
kevindoc81: Yeah. Yeah, it's it's basically like, mean, there's obviously some changes that were made to fit the the character better, you know, because it takes place in like, sometimes in New Orleans in the in the south.
Keck: Yeah.
kevindoc81: So and if you're your lead character is black, you can't just, you know, dance around the racism of the time.
Keck: yeah
kevindoc81: So
Keck: Yeah, no yeah no no doubt.
kevindoc81: Well, I don't know. I like to show the second scene.
Keck: I don't think there were any black vampires in the movie.
kevindoc81: No, I don't think so either.
Keck: There's Antonio Banderas, who is, you know, you know, Latin American. But yeah, I don't.
kevindoc81: Yeah.
Keck: Yeah, I thought it was like, you know, because they say in the film, they say, you know, ah there's certain people that are forbidden to become vampire like they were against like children.
Keck: It was like sort of like a code you're not, which makes sense to me. I just assumed that like, you know, it was they had a code that like was like anti
kevindoc81: Yeah.
Keck: Like the vampires were racist.
kevindoc81: Yeah, yeah.
Keck: so that's That's it.
kevindoc81: Yeah, yeah. It's cool because it goes through it start the first season is like in new Orleans and the second season is him traveling in And when that's when he meets Van Der Sis' character.
kevindoc81: Because yeah the first season is him and Lestat and then the then the girl.
Keck: Okay, so it does follow the exact same characters it doesn't like make it like I cuz I wasn't sure if they kept it if they changed like characters and just kept locations or if they were andnna actually Not even include like New Orleans like they could have done their view of the vampire and could have been like a totally different place
kevindoc81: miss
kevindoc81: Yeah. No, just some of the settings are a little different.
kevindoc81: Nah, yeah, it's the first one is still in New Orleans. The second season is like, I think in France is where they end up at the
Keck: Yeah. And that's where they're hunting for vampire trying to try and define more like them.
kevindoc81: Yeah, and they joined up with that theater group in the second season.
Keck: Yeah. Okay. Yeah.
kevindoc81: Yeah.
Keck: Yep. Yep. Okay.
kevindoc81: Yeah.
Keck: So it's same story. Gotcha.
kevindoc81: Yeah, pretty much. Yeah, there's just a few changes to that. that but I don't know. I dig it. I like the show. Then some of the other categories were like editor editorial eye on the future, which I don't know what that's all
kevindoc81: But Dwayne Perkins for a vision video one and best. Oh, there was some other one. but i Oh, Dwayne.
kevindoc81: Parkins and Vision Video. There's somebody else. Oh, Dusty Ganon from visit Vision Video. Then Best Screenplay was Late Night with the Devil, which I'm pretty sure came out this year.
Keck: Did you see that one?
kevindoc81: Yeah, it was good. Yeah, that's the one where the TV shows ah ah tv show host, ah David Dashimal, he's been like fucking everything. He's a classic character actor.
kevindoc81: He hosts this TV episode where they do like an exorcism like on like live with like a live studio audience and shit.
Keck: It's just hard to keep up with the amount of content you consume.
kevindoc81: Yeah. best international movie was When Evil Lurks. That was really good.
Keck: Yeah, I saw it. I saw that.
kevindoc81: Yeah. Yeah, I like that movie. I don't agree with this one either.
Keck: What was the category?
kevindoc81: best
Keck: I'm sorry. What was the category it won for?
kevindoc81: up Best International.
Keck: Best international.
kevindoc81: Best Limited Release Movie. I saw the TV glow. I and don't agree with that.
Keck: I've never even...
kevindoc81: I thought it was less ah ah less of a horror movie, more of a coming of age story that kind of fell apart at the end. It didn't really, like it seemed like it had a message you wanted to say and then the end it just kind of didn't.
kevindoc81: But like it won over Cobweb, which I think was an excellent fucking film.
Keck: And the category was well limited release.
kevindoc81: Limited release, yeah. saw that in theaters. I saw cobweb in theaters. Suitable flesh I didn't catch in theaters, but that was also one that that was probably a better horror movie than I Saw TV Glow.
kevindoc81: But again, ah I Saw TV Glow is a lot more artsy. and But it was also like head like the trailer, you're like, oh, this looks interesting. And then like, those are the the only horror parts of the fucking show.
kevindoc81: You know what I mean? so
Keck: Yeah, well, so yeah, there was very yeah, so wasn't horror what it wasn't sci -fi It wasn't that didn't have like was it was there suspense Yeah Yeah
kevindoc81: It's very little.
kevindoc81: it was just like the no it was more like It was more like a coming -of -age story. It was like these two people that bonded over this you know TV show that they used to watch together and like the one moves out and disappears and the other one's kind of struggling with like his sexuality and stuff. so
Keck: Yeah, so sore what you're saying is you don't even think that it should have been considered in the awards, really, because it doesn't sound like it's within the purview of the chainsaw awards.
kevindoc81: yeah i don't i wouldn't even call it a horror movie yeah i don't know yeah but anyway let's see where was my last where did i leave off oh uh here you go uh best streaming premiere was vhs 85 i don't remember even liking that one uh
Keck: Yeah, so that may, yeah. oh
Keck: Best limit.
Keck: that's for And streaming premiere is basically like the best movie to be released on a streaming service.
kevindoc81: Yeah, so like, no one will save you, which I thought was excellent. Sick is on there, total totally killer. and Where are the Devil Realms I haven't seen, but I've seen a totally killer and I've seen no one will save you.
kevindoc81: And I thought no one will save you was an excellent one.
Keck: I think I saw no one will save you.
kevindoc81: What were the check where there's almost no dialogue for like 40 minutes and she gets attacked by the aliens?
Keck: Yeah. yes Yeah.
kevindoc81: Yeah, I thought that was great.
Keck: Yeah. Yeah. It was, I mean, I thought the silence like really built up like the suspense for me.
kevindoc81: Yeah.
Keck: Like, you know what I mean? Like, Oh, cause I, at one point I thought it was going to be silent, like pretty much throughout the entire movie. Like I was, like, I was a little caught by it, but yeah.
kevindoc81: I saw this movie called Asriel that was with Samara Weaving that just came out not that long ago and there's no dialogue in that movie like at all except for like one little part and the dude speaks a foreign language so you don't even understand him. And by the end of the movie I was like,
kevindoc81: All right, but it could have used some dialogue to explain some character motivat motivation. Like I didn't know who these group of people were, why they were hunting her, and what this whole baby situation was about. not Like there was just some things that like didn't make sense that I was like, they could have used a little bit more than just like, hey, the rapture happened and now people are fucking like, have like decided not, they weren't going to speak anymore. And like, that's all the information they give you. And then like,
kevindoc81: these people start hunting Samara Weebie and she's just like, you know, trying to get away and then, you know, gets revenge and shit.
Keck: What if they made that movie, that real tweaked out movie with ah Jennifer Lawrence? What was it called? Where you know they break the baby and eat the baby?
kevindoc81: Oh, mother. Oh,
Keck: What if they like just decided to make that silent? like like um All that shit started popping off, but like there was no dialogue.
kevindoc81: You hear mom was but there's done they could have done that and you would have been a little Yeah yeah a Best kill was uh, which this this is the one you have to enter in in a violent nature The yoga kill one and this movie came out like this summer.
Keck: Yeah, you could have heard like like rabble art, right? You know, like mumbling, you know, like stuff like that. But like otherwise, dude, now that that would have been really fucked up.
kevindoc81: That's what I'm saying. Like there was no real cutoff
Keck: do what What date did it come out?
kevindoc81: Like, this movie just came out June or July?
Keck: and where What month did it come out?
Keck: June and July, so...
kevindoc81: It came out but not that long ago. it's like stream It's just streaming now, so it wasn't that long ago.
Keck: What was the title again?
kevindoc81: In A Violent Nature, that's the one where it's from the POV of the killer, and he's walking through the woods, and most of the movie is just him walking through the woods.
Keck: Oh yeah!
kevindoc81: There's a few good kills, but then the movie just sorta ends.
Keck: It's just 5 .6 on IMDB with 19 ,000 people voting.
kevindoc81: But this is a problem, alright?
Keck: um um I'm just wondering if I could find the exact date. It just says 2024 on rated. Usually IMDB will list I just looking up just see if it sheds like any light on it of release date June 28th, 2024 United States.
kevindoc81: Yeah.
Keck: I don't know if there were any earlier releases like there sometimes are in like other countries like in Japan and stuff like that. But yeah, it doesn't have any other release date.
Keck: So that's so we know it's.
kevindoc81: So let's see, that's a year and six months movies right there.
Keck: Yeah. Yeah. out A minimum of a year and six months.
kevindoc81: Yeah.
kevindoc81: Yeah.
Keck: A minimum.
kevindoc81: And that's the only category it's even mentioned is cause that's a, that's a user input, uh, category one.
Keck: Yeah.
kevindoc81: Uh, so we'll probably hear about that movie again next year for the 2025, uh, award. Do you know what I mean?
Keck: Yeah, we'll have to talk more about this in the future about like how they do this and like are they do they have like some kind of formula to prevent a redundancy, you know, and I mean to be unless like it's part of their platform or like they're like, oh, we think, you know, we'll assign the same movie two years in a row going like that's just the way Fangoria rolls.
kevindoc81: Yeah. Yeah, if they don't, they need to, but, uh.
kevindoc81: Yeah.
Keck: I don't know. Maybe that is the role.
kevindoc81: Yeah. Best lead performance. Uh, David Dashemel, uh, won for late night with the devil. That's over, you know, Tobin Bell, Saul X. No one will save you. First Omen, Lisa Frankenstein, Quiet Place Day One, Poor Things, Evil Dead Rise, Immaculate, and Talk to Me.
Keck: The one film I have not heard mentioned, which is probably, well, the last horror film I saw was Salem's Lot.
Keck: And then a couple of days before that, I saw Maxine.
kevindoc81: Literally.
Keck: And I haven't heard her, she's that was 2024.
kevindoc81: Yeah, that came out like around the same time as End of Violent Nature, I feel like.
Keck: it's not not That wasn't on up for anything.
kevindoc81: And that wasn't up for anything anything, so we'll probably be on next year's.
Keck: That is fucking weird, man.
kevindoc81: So that's all I'm saying.
Keck: Like, so there... But it says, yeah I mean, I know we're just talking in circles, even mentioning it, because it doesn't seem like there's information about it.
Keck: But yeah, I don't know. I wonder if there's like printed rules for what that fangoria put out where it says like, if a fan wants to vote for the same movie in the second year, and we're still covering that period, like that's cool.
kevindoc81: Well, it seems like most,
Keck: But like, even if that was the case, why wouldn't Maxine be on there?
kevindoc81: when they do the, yeah they put out the survey, they only, they they release, you know, which ones you can choose from.
Keck: there's no way that wouldn't be nominated yeah yeah I yeah that's that really doesn't make any sense there's no way the chainsaw wards would not have that fucking at least nominated like you know what I mean that
kevindoc81: There's only one or two categories you can actually insert anything. So I don't know how they're picking it as much.
kevindoc81: Yeah, seriously. I guarantee it we'll see you fucking next year.
Keck: And I mean, I would be like in extremely surprised, especially for like a fangoria audience based on like, I mean, I really like Maxine, like I said.
Keck: And, you know, I would think that would be a winner of at least a single award, you know, if not multiple categories.
kevindoc81: Yeah. two categories left and it's, uh, Best Director, Lee Cronin, Evil Dead Rise.
Keck: Yeah.
kevindoc81: I was like, all right, I mean, I mean.
Keck: you evil that Evil Dead was the cleanup, yeah.
kevindoc81: Yeah, I mean, Infinity Pool was also nominated, so it's talked to me, When Evil Lurks and First Homing. I understand why When Evil Lurks didn't, because ah ah you already had that in the other category for Best International.
Keck: Yeah.
kevindoc81: ah ah Talk to me was really good.
Keck: yeah
kevindoc81: Infinity pool is really good. I don't think I agree with first omen being on this list but uh, I thought that was this year as well, so and I thought immaculate was better than first omen but And best wide release movie was Godzilla minus one, which I absolutely agree with
Keck: yeah wide release see i'm just looking see evil dead rise that's release date in the united states was april 21st 2023 and then the last one i believe was that we had just mentioned was june 28th of 2024 so we're at least going from there yeah
kevindoc81: yeah
Keck: In a violent nature was the other one so between that we got april 21st to june 28 yeah there's just no there's no reason to that i don't know.
kevindoc81: and of my ownation Yeah, I don't know.
kevindoc81: I mean infinity pool, I'm pretty sure it came out of February of 2023.
Keck: because i was just when you had said like i was like you know i love the evil dead rock but like i was thinking like i'm forgetting a lot of stuff it seems like it was like it came out like a really long time ago
kevindoc81: Yeah. Yeah. Let me look up real quick. We're in a legacy where no.
kevindoc81: Yeah, January 27th, 2023 was when Infinity Pool came out. So you expect people to remember from January all the way to the end of June?
Keck: You're pushing two years.
kevindoc81: Yeah, like you need to fucking tighten up your fucking nominating state.
Keck: Yeah, that's ridiculous. Yeah, that is ridiculous.
kevindoc81: is
Keck: Unless there's something that they clearly printed out that we both missed.
kevindoc81: Yeah.
Keck: Because as you've been talking, I've been like looking up different dates on the Fangoria, seeing if I could find anything to add to the discussion, because I know we are repeating ourselves in this brain twister that is the Fangoria Texan, or Texan, I was about to say Texas Chainsaw.
kevindoc81: and
Keck: but you know the Fangoria Chainsaw Awards it you know Fangoria Chainsaw Awards 2024 that just should not be the name you know because you literally have that would take it back to it's you know October now so depending upon well it could be up to
kevindoc81: Yeah. Yeah.
Keck: Yeah, yeah it could it could be up to 22 months.
kevindoc81: we have to time to the dream next
kevindoc81: yeah Yeah, because you got yeah Maxine I just looked up came out July 5th, so it was like a week after so if their cutoff is Yeah Yeah
Keck: yeah
Keck: No, it's possible that could, because Maxine would have to be in there, maybe their cutoff was June. Because that, yeah, when evil, unless, the only other way we could find this if we went through all those other movies and looked up their early states.
kevindoc81: yeah I'm not doing a lot.
Keck: I'm not that committed to that anyway. I thought this was
kevindoc81: This already went way longer than I intended it to.
Keck: Yeah, but you know what?
kevindoc81: but
Keck: There was a lot of you know there were a lot of interesting things to discuss here about like how the awards were set up themselves. And there were several films that you had mentioned that I hadn't seen that I had some questions about.
Keck: And know ah you know you're like one of the most prolific content consumers I know of sci -fi and horror. so you know Yeah, I expect this to be a bit shorter, but hey, you know, there's there is a lot to discuss.
kevindoc81: Yeah.
Keck: Most of it was about Fangoria's fucking system here. But, you know, we'll try and maybe in the next task.
kevindoc81: Yeah. I mean, the other thing I think I would like to say, I mean, their award show is kind of like, you know, they kind of do these little like skits and like, it's, it's, it's fine.
kevindoc81: But I think when they do like, they should, you know, announce the nominees, you know, play like a little, I think it's only like an hour, hour and a half show as it is. So it's not that long of a show.
kevindoc81: They do kind of go through it pretty quickly. But you know,
Keck: And they don't have like the highest budget either.
kevindoc81: No, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Keck: Yeah.
kevindoc81: Well, I mean, it'd be cool to have, like, some clips of, like, the nominees. but Like, hey, and the the nominees are, you know what I mean? But they kind of just go, and the winner for this category is blah, blah, blah. Then they then they then they have the person that that won the award, you know, do a quick little, oh, thank you, bla blah, blah, bla blah, blah, blah.
kevindoc81: And then they move on to, like, the next thing or whatever.
Keck: Yeah. Yeah.
kevindoc81: So, I mean, I do like that aspect, but, you know, I, like, would like to, like, hey, maybe show some clips of what else was nominated. Like, it's like, why did this movie win? You know what I mean? like
Keck: maybe it's simply a matter of budget constraints you know they just don't have the money and I don't know maybe it would behoove them to in the future try to you know fundraise for that or to seek a revenue source
kevindoc81: Yeah. mean
kevindoc81: Maybe they don't have the rights to show.
Keck: that that yeah That is of course a possibility too, but yeah ah yeah ah as things of evolve we'll see.
kevindoc81: yeah
Keck: Anyway, that was the Fangoria 2024 and according to their website, 2023 Chainsaw Awards.
kevindoc81: Yeah.
Keck: If that makes any sense.
kevindoc81: Yeah.
kevindoc81: But you can always go watch the, uh, 20, you can watch last year's and you can watch this year's. They're both should be available still on shutter or AMC plus. You might be able to find them on YouTube.
Keck: I think they're on YouTube.
kevindoc81: Yeah. I think you can find it on YouTube as well.
Keck: yeah yeah so i yeah Good night and good luck.
kevindoc81: So it's still a available. You can always always always go back and watch it. Um, but yeah, that's it. That's, that's my list. That's all I got.
kevindoc81: Yes. And, uh, and again, happy Halloween.
Keck: Happy Halloween. Be safe everybody.
kevindoc81: maybe maybe maybe Maybe happy Thanksgiving. I don't know where the next episode's gonna be.
Keck: well We'll say before Thanksgiving.
kevindoc81: Yeah. Alright. I'll talk to you later.
Keck: the
kevindoc81: Follow us on Facebook. Yes. Let us know what you think of the winners and what and who you think should have won.
Keck: yes
kevindoc81: And I'll catch you later.
Keck: yes
kevindoc81: Peace.
Keck: Yes. Yes
