Transcript
Brandon: Good evening. Welcome to Fright Central, where we talk all things horror. My name is Keck, and I am here with Doc, as always. And tonight, we are going to be discussing Friday the 13th's new short, Sweet Revenge. um But first, Kevin has some news, don't you?
Kevin Dougherty: ah Yeah, I don't know if I had mentioned this one time, like, kind of in passing and didn't really look into it before, but the there's a Clive Barker Hellraiser game coming out.
Brandon: No shit.
Kevin Dougherty: Yeah, and it's a ah called Hellraiser Revival. And, you know, i kind of just thought, like, oh, it's going to be another one of those, like, Dead by Daylight Friday the 13th games.
Brandon: Yeah.
Kevin Dougherty: But, a you know, not really looking into it. But once I, like, started reading about it, it's actually a single-player survival horror game set in the Hellraiser universe. And, like...
Brandon: Oh, so it like focuses on like single player campaign type thing? Like, oh, Wow.
Kevin Dougherty: Yeah. And apparently, like, you play as, like, this guy ah who, like, makes a deal, I guess, with...
Brandon: with the Cenobites?
Kevin Dougherty: with With pen of Penhead and the Cenobites and like he's you can you're like you can use the box to like open up portals for Cenobites to come out and fucking kill people?
Brandon: Oh, shit, that might have to be like a day one copying.
Kevin Dougherty: Yeah. Yeah.
Brandon: Yeah, I mean, i mean, I would think that's going to go one of two ways. so i think it's either going to be like very solid and decent or it's just going to come out and suck balls.
Brandon: Like, you know what I mean?
Kevin Dougherty: yeah here's the ah official ah Here's the official like ah blurb thing.
Brandon: It's just going to be
Kevin Dougherty: Discover the tale of Aiden who must unlock the dark powers of the Genesis configuration, a mysterious puzzle box help ah to help his girlfriend from a hellish abyss.
Kevin Dougherty: As Aiden, you'll harness the box's infernal abilities to survive your pact with the sinister pinhead and battle against the twisted cult that worships him and the Cenobites. Fail and your suffering will be legendary even in hell.
Brandon: It's interesting that ah they mention the Genesis configuration and not typical Lament configuration which is usually the configuration that the box starts in in its default configuration and then you can kind of like mold it into different configurations which like I think open up like different realms of very unpleasant places.
Kevin Dougherty: Yeah.
Brandon: um But yeah, that's and that's interesting. I wonder if that's like done intentionally, like if there's going to be um references to like Genesis and the Bible and stuff like that.
Brandon: like that Yeah, that's that sounds really interesting.
Kevin Dougherty: Yeah, I haven't watched the trailer yet, but just reading that makes me excited because I do like single-player horror campaign games. and not really that interested in that run-around-solve-things while trying to like escape from a killer.
Brandon: Yeah.
Kevin Dougherty: like more of a story-driven aspect to it.
Brandon: Yeah, games like Outlast and I can't remember, but that Alien Survival game actually was really good.
Kevin Dougherty: Isolation?
Brandon: Yeah, it was actually really good.
Kevin Dougherty: Yeah. Yeah.
Brandon: Especially if you had um the ah voice sensor features on with ah either your PC or console, because like, the alien would actually be attracted to your sound in real time. That was something kind of unique that I had never really experienced before. So, yeah. yeah and But, ah yeah, i I've had enough of those type of games. Like, I'm um'm ready to move on.
Brandon: So, yeah, that's that's something really exciting, yeah. And when did this news first break?
Kevin Dougherty: I want to say during Comic-Con.
Brandon: So, like, what was...
Kevin Dougherty: So July 22nd.
Brandon: Okay, so, yeah, all right, so we're we're about like a month behind, three three, four weeks behind, so that's not too, too bad, but ah yeah, I think if you had mentioned that before, I would have remembered.
Kevin Dougherty: I think I had brought it up briefly and when I was just, you was just like, oh, it's another one of those Friday 13 games and we didn't really talk about it more is is what I'm thinking.
Brandon: yeah, yeah, yeah. So we just dismissed it quickly. Yeah, yeah, I get what you mean, yeah yeah.
Kevin Dougherty: Yeah, yeah.
Brandon: I mean, it happens when you have so many of those type of games.
Kevin Dougherty: But then I...
Kevin Dougherty: Yeah, you just assume that, like, what else are you going to do with it, right? And, like, I'm not thinking story-driven where you can, like, use the box to open up fucking hell and torture your fucking enemies.
Brandon: yeah Yeah.
Kevin Dougherty: Like...
Brandon: Yeah. Yeah. I mean, that's, yeah, that's really, really, really cool.
Kevin Dougherty: perfect
Brandon: Especially if you had things like, uh, where someone could like invade your hell to like, you know, like wreak havoc, like, you know, maybe like somebody, like if you kill someone in hell, can that be like your like gateway to like,
Brandon: coming out of the blood-soaked bed, like, skinless, and, like, then you have to, like, merc people to slowly earn your flesh back and shit like that.
Brandon: Yeah, I mean, there's a lot of, like, ways you could take that, like, you know, even with, like, ah DLC expansions and stuff like that, you could build on that. So, yeah, that sounds like a lot of fun.
Kevin Dougherty: Yeah, yeah, I'm into it. On the more lower budget news, because they're crowdfunding this one, there's a Return to Living Dead game coming out or that they're working on anyway. You can like crowdfund this one.
Kevin Dougherty: It's ah called reach Return of the Living Dead More Brains Assault on Onida. And it's supposed to like follow more of the the meta sequel, Trash's Revenge, that's like a reboot of the original and sequel, kind of.
Kevin Dougherty: It's probably, i mean, I haven't seen it, but I'm assuming if it's like most of the Return of the 11 Dead sequels and remakes, it's probably trash.
Brandon: Yeah.
Kevin Dougherty: No pun and intended. Yeah.
Brandon: Again, we're being like somewhat like maybe like preemptively dismissive and like, you know, I could see somebody like listening this and say oh like, well, you know, you guys are trashing something like before you even, but I mean,
Brandon: It's just been like the pattern for so long that like, you know mean?
Kevin Dougherty: Yeah.
Brandon: Like I think like low expectations are probably the best way to look at something like this because if it exceeds your expectations, then it becomes a big win.
Brandon: And you know what I mean? But like, yeah, I i pretty much feel the same. I don't have too much more to add on that.
Kevin Dougherty: Yeah, I mean, the game is supposed to be like an expansion of that film, Trash's Revenge, and more like it picks up right after happens.
Brandon: Yeah.
Kevin Dougherty: But I mean, the game still looks interesting for being like low budget where you're just fighting through hordes of zombies.
Brandon: Oh yeah. Yeah.
Kevin Dougherty: I don't know what the ultimate story or goal is besides fighting zombies.
Brandon: Yeah, it might be like a smaller like a smaller file file size thing where it's like, you know just like a survival game where you fight like waves of zombies.
Kevin Dougherty: Yeah.
Brandon: Like, it's probably going to be like some multiplayer aspect where you can do like co-op and stuff like that with your friends. So, yeah, I mean, that could be interesting to check out. But, like, again, I don't have high hopes.
Kevin Dougherty: Yeah. yeah Neither do I. They need some they need to get some studio almost to like take a hold of that.
Brandon: Yeah, I mean, like what people have been doing with like game mods and like Nexus community. I mean, it's been goddamn downright impressive. But a lot of the big modders, like the people that do like the convergence mod for like Elden Ring and Dark Souls and all that.
Brandon: They have like a large team now. They're well-funded. A lot of them are being now hired by like professional studios and stuff like that.
Brandon: So, I mean, like I've seen the power of like the independents, but like yeah, if you want to make something that's going to be like entertaining, where people are really going to want to play something built from scratch, you need to go with a big studio or something.
Kevin Dougherty: i I mean, i know what you mean, but I wasn't talking about the video game aspect of somebody who needs to come in and take control of the franchise.
Brandon: I thought you were talking about like it being like a low budget game where like there wasn't going to be a lot of.
Kevin Dougherty: i'm
Brandon: Okay. Yeah.
Kevin Dougherty: I just meant the way the film franchise has gone.
Brandon: I. Oh, all
Kevin Dougherty: Yeah.
Brandon: right. I kind of wasn't picking up what you were putting down.
Kevin Dougherty: Yeah. Yeah.
Brandon: I understand now, but.
Kevin Dougherty: but they need not I'm not saying they need like a universal or you know something like that, but even like you know AMC you know with Shudder, even if they came in, or you know a Blumhouse or an a twenty four and they kind of took control over it, then we can maybe get some better stories out of what they've been doing.
Brandon: Yeah.
Brandon: Yeah, yeah, exactly.
Kevin Dougherty: Yeah.
Brandon: well I mean, it's the same principle if they're properly staffed. and
Kevin Dougherty: Yeah, it's it's also tough to like you know make something as good as the first one and try to recapture the magic the first one was, because everything else just kind of seems, you know.
Brandon: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean, it's gonna, I mean, to To try encapsulate some of that, you're going to have to be perhaps overly ambitious and like, you know, you more often miss than hit when, you know, you try to take on like something like that. But, you know, hey, you know, I'll definitely check it out. I'll definitely at least like check out like the early reviews and stuff like that. See if it's something that I'd be interested in like delving into. But, you know, anyway.
Kevin Dougherty: Yeah, again, I was mostly talking about the film franchise there.
Brandon: Yeah, I know.
Kevin Dougherty: the games
Brandon: i but um i'm thinking about I'm thinking about, I've been thinking a lot about games, like with the new Friday the 13th game and everything. Yeah.
Kevin Dougherty: I mean, I also just found out that there was a Predator VR game, and I was watching a little bit of trailer of that, and I was like, oh, this might be the game to get me back into VR, because I haven't put it on in a while.
Brandon: Yeah. yeah
Brandon: Isn't the Predator VR game? Because I noticed I was actually playing Batman Arkham Knight just before the cast actually on pc because I had it on um updated graphics and frame rates and it looked really good. um And I found out that there was actually another batman Arkham game, but it was apparently, it's like something like Batman, like Arkham Shadow, or called something like that, and I was looking to find out what platform it's on, so that I could like check it out, and possibly buy it, and I found that it was a MetaQuest 3 exclusive, and I was like, oh shit, so it's like a straight VR only thing, and yeah,
Kevin Dougherty: ah Because I remember there was ah like a Batman that was like kind of set in the Arkham World VR thing that was kind of a more short thing. It was kind of like a almost like well like a test ah game.
Brandon: Like a demo like type thing.
Kevin Dougherty: to see not Not really a demo. It was ah it was it had like a full story and everything, but it didn't seem like it like nowadays you'd play full 16-hour or however many-hour fucking video games.
Brandon: Yeah. Yeah.
Kevin Dougherty: Now, this was back when like they were only making fucking like 15 20 minute games because like it took so much processing power and all that other stuff and now you get yeah and now you get like full like lived in games nowadays so I think it was like around that time but it was a pretty cool ah thing where you go around and pick up stuff but there it's not really as much like swinging around and and fighting people as there there are probably in the the new one
Brandon: Yeah. yeah yeah yeah know We just didn't have the hardware to. Yeah.
Brandon: Yeah, yeah.
Kevin Dougherty: because he plans for MetaQuest 3, so it's got to be pretty new. I haven't seen that at all either. But yeah, but this Predator game looks interesting because you can play as the Predator and and like there's like a campaign or like there's multiplayer as well.
Kevin Dougherty: So I'd be interested in playing that.
Brandon: Well, i think that screams VR. You know what I mean?
Kevin Dougherty: Yeah, yeah.
Brandon: Especially when you think about the original movie where you first see the Predator's hand after that big skirmish at the village. Like, you know, when you first see that, like, you know, that would be, like, a great, like, intro to, like, your VR thing where, like, you see your predator hand like that.
Brandon: And, you know, it's just reminiscent of that scene from the movie that was, like, that big iconic, like, first glimpse of the alien. Like, yeah, that that would be really cool.
Kevin Dougherty: Yeah, oh.
Brandon: You know, that, yeah.
Kevin Dougherty: what if the ah What if the multiplayer aspect of was it was kind of like Halo, and you can have like two priorities going in?
Brandon: Yeah.
Kevin Dougherty: And we were both, and you remember how we used to play Halo on like Legendary, and like one of would just go in like full suicide?
Brandon: Oh,
Brandon: yeah.
Kevin Dougherty: Like, we just
Brandon: You kind of had to do that at some parts.
Kevin Dougherty: You just that you're your set your self-detonation fucking thing and then run into a horde of fucking Xenomorphs or something and just wipe them all out.
Brandon: Yeah.
Brandon: Yeah.
Kevin Dougherty: Yeah.
Brandon: Yeah, like, Doc, I'm going to go set off my nuke, and then, you know, you just wait for my body to respawn and make sure you're far away enough from combat that I get spawned back in and then you can do your suicide bomb, and that's how we'll take out, like, a really hard boss or something like that.
Kevin Dougherty: Yeah.
Kevin Dougherty: very
Brandon: Ranged nukes. Yeah.
Kevin Dougherty: ah but
Brandon: Oh, shit. Yeah. I mean, that yeah. But on a series, that that sounds really fun. um Yeah. that that And is that like um a MetaQuest um exclusive or is that available on VR, like on different platforms, like PS5 VR or something like that?
Kevin Dougherty: I think it's supported by Steam because that's where i was because I was looking up Predator games.
Brandon: but Okay. Okay.
Kevin Dougherty: And I think i said it said it was supported by Steam, but I think you might have to buy it ah elsewhere. I'm not really sure. So you might, it said like in the VR, you know, gaming section.
Brandon: so it' scott's too So it's got PC support. Yeah, yeah that's good.
Kevin Dougherty: Yeah, yeah, I believe so. so Yeah, I would like to check that out. But anyway, on to our ah topic for today, which is the new Friday the 13th short Sweet Revenge, which was ah now officially the first Friday the 13th product we've gotten in what they call the new Jason Universe, which is really just like the company banner name, I guess.
Brandon: Yeah, yeah.
Kevin Dougherty: So... ah What do you think ah about this, them doing it this way as being like the first thing to that they announced instead of being the first thing of the TV series?
Kevin Dougherty: ah Doing a short film first to kind of reintroduce people back to Jason?
Brandon: Well, just a quick side note that I ah said that I was going to just mention maybe like here and there. um This ah cast is going to be spoiler-sealed.
Brandon: bloody spoiler soak. So we expect, as you just described, like the universe and everything, we expect that like you've either seen the film or the topic of the discussion or you just don't really give a fuck.
Brandon: And like, you know...
Kevin Dougherty: or you at least you know something about Jason i don't know how like
Brandon: yeah or Yeah, or exactly, like maybe you're like, you know what, I want some spoilers because I want to see if this is like, you know, worth my time. You know what mean? There are some people like that, like that just like they don't give a fuck about spoilers.
Brandon: But anyway, that's just like a quick disclaimer.
Kevin Dougherty: yeah for a 15 minute uh short film um like I wouldn't mind if if somebody told me spoilers ahead a time but like
Brandon: No, no, no. i Yeah, I fought the urge.
Kevin Dougherty: It's also like for 15 minutes, for 15 minutes, just go watch it. You know what mean? Like, it's not going to take that long. It's not that big of a deal.
Brandon: Yeah. And well, I'm also saying that for like future discussions we have and stuff like that. And, you I'll, we'll try to mention that first. And, but, uh, to answer your, um, original question, I mean,
Brandon: This was the best short that I've seen, um at least, like, from anything, like, Friday the 13th related. I mean, we haven't – well, I mean, in fairness, in the last 15-plus years, because of, like, the whole, like, copyright thing, like, we haven't really seen very much content.
Brandon: I've seen some Friday the 13th, like, theme slasher content, like a few shorts here and there. Yeah.
Kevin Dougherty: Yeah, there's lot of fan-made shorts that you have.
Brandon: Yeah, exactly. I mean, i think you were talking to me at one point that you did like, um you were doing like a GoFundMe, like you were you had like basket it in somebody yeah somebody's project.
Kevin Dougherty: Well, I did help crowdfund a cyberpunk Jason one.
Brandon: ah so Yeah, exactly.
Kevin Dougherty: Yeah, it it was terrible.
Brandon: says something This was by far the best I've seen. ah you know in short i mean, the i was actually impressed with the production quality in general.
Brandon: Like, it seemed like it was, like, a pretty polished film.
Kevin Dougherty: Yeah, yes.
Brandon: um You know what I mean?
Kevin Dougherty: And the effect looks good as well. Like, yeah.
Brandon: Yeah. And I thought that the writing was very solid, although we're going to have to talk a little bit more about, especially about the ending, ah seems to be, like,
Brandon: the large like portion of discussions that I've heard in forums and on the other like ah YouTube videos I've seen, the ending has been like um a ah big sort of, I guess, open question to people's... It leaves a lot to the imagination. and But yeah, initially I thought that this was a pretty goddamn impressive.
Brandon: And, you know, what what what about you? I mean, that that was my that was my take initially. like What did you think?
Kevin Dougherty: Yeah, I mean, even when it just at first started off, like, you can tell just with, like, you know, the cinematography that that they were, that you can tell that they took their time and, like, you know, cared about this and wasn't just trying to throw, like, some homemade, you know, it could have easily been a Steadicam, you know, found footage Friday the 13th that they gave us, but, you know.
Brandon: Yeah. Yeah.
Brandon: what I was expecting, yeah.
Kevin Dougherty: Yeah, but yeah the then like when you see like the first like body or like guts or whatever, like you do get you're like, okay, they actually took time to make this look gory too, and the the effects looked good.
Kevin Dougherty: And the acting was...
Brandon: The foreshadowing when he mentioned the propeller blade, like, you knew that was coming.
Kevin Dougherty: Yeah.
Kevin Dougherty: He was like, oh yeah, tell your tell your boyfriend that this propeller is ready to go whenever.
Brandon: Sorry.
Brandon: Uh,
Kevin Dougherty: Yeah.
Brandon: I was like, all right, I know Jason's looking for that.
Kevin Dougherty: yeah
Brandon: ah Like, that's coming out.
Kevin Dougherty: Jace is the one that showed him. He was like, hey, this propeller is ready. He showed him his face.
Brandon: I just wondering whether or not it was going to be used on Jason or used on, like, one of the campers and whether it was going to be used in the lake or, like, somewhere else. And, you know, of course, that gets quickly answered.
Kevin Dougherty: Yeah, but I thought the acting was, you know, about the same as it is in pretty much any other Friday the 13th movie.
Brandon: Yeah, i agree.
Kevin Dougherty: Like, it wasn't bad, but it's not great. It's like, you know, and it, well, it's basically, you know, a group of four friends go to a cabin at Camp Crystal Lake and, you know, start to get murdered.
Kevin Dougherty: I mean, she finds out that her boyfriend or fiance is cheating on her with one of her friends.
Brandon: ah Fiance, yeah. So this is a very tight-knit group, yeah.
Kevin Dougherty: Yeah, so they drive out there at the cabin. Of course, there's a creepy old ah man that like rents the cabin to him. was like spying on him and
Brandon: ah And he's great. I mean, that the one scene where he talks about like, ah you know, yeah, revenge, betrayal, and lots of murder.
Kevin Dougherty: Yeah.
Kevin Dougherty: Oh, the background. There's been so much. Yeah.
Kevin Dougherty: He goes, yeah, there's there's been lots of murder. And then he just goes, so much murder or something like that.
Brandon: it something Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Kevin Dougherty: yeah it's along those lines it's like a lot of murder and i just love the way he said that and i was like oh yeah i gotta write that down that was that was great and uh yes she's by herself like out by the lake while he said he was going fishing with one of his friends and uh
Brandon: yeah
Brandon: Yeah.
Brandon: After she makes a comment about, like, how she was, like, thinking swimsuits were optional, I would have just been like, you know what, I could fish any time. Fuck this.
Kevin Dougherty: Yeah, he even, like, you think he's going to go out there because he goes, what the fuck?
Brandon: Yeah. ah
Kevin Dougherty: And then, but then, like, he just doesn't go out there. And then when the next you see her, like, she's she said, what who said anything about bathing suits that she's wearing a bathing suit, which I thought was funny.
Brandon: Yeah, well, I think it was going to be like got deal where like if he came with her, but it was um just to do a quick zap back.
Kevin Dougherty: Yeah.
Brandon: It reminded me of a scene from Friday the 13th for the final chapter where a um ah co, well, you know, one of the campers was going to go skinny dipping with her boyfriend Paulie and Paulie decides well I think he either fucks off or he's already been killed by Jason And she strips completely naked and goes out onto that raft where Jason like comes under with the machete and like slices her in half.
Brandon: It was a great scene, but it reminded me of like sort that where like for no good reason, like they decide to like split up and like go off on their own, you know?
Kevin Dougherty: Yeah.
Brandon: So it's iconic with every Jason movie.
Kevin Dougherty: Yeah.
Brandon: And now that, yeah, that, that, that's good.
Kevin Dougherty: Yeah.
Brandon: That works, you know?
Kevin Dougherty: Yeah. And sure enough, she finds herself, you know, paddling out on the lake by herself. And then Jason comes up and grabs her underwater for hours.
Kevin Dougherty: I don't know if you noticed that because it was day when he grabbed her.
Brandon: It's day and then it's night and nobody even comes looking for
Kevin Dougherty: Yeah.
Brandon: That was another thing. Like, she goes up and, like, knocks on the window and they're all, like, bugged out. Like, oh, my God. Like, I would think they'd be out with, like, search parties and flashlights and shit.
Brandon: Hours.
Kevin Dougherty: Yeah, they did not give a fuck. Like, I assumed she was just dead, like, because she held, because he held her under there, and it was, like, daylight, and then she comes up with breath of ah air, and it's, like, dead night.
Brandon: Hours.
Kevin Dougherty: it's Like, not even sun setting, just dead night.
Brandon: Yeah.
Kevin Dougherty: And then I was like, what the fuck? i was like, so maybe she's dead, and she's now gotten the spirit of Jason or some shit like that is what I was thinking.
Brandon: yeah that Yeah, we're going to, yeah, that's.
Kevin Dougherty: I'm glad they didn't go that route, but like she sees her fiancé making out with, like I guess, her friend or one of their friends.
Brandon: Wait, she does see that?
Kevin Dougherty: And then Jason... Yeah, she's...
Brandon: she She sees her fiance like kissing that other. Oh, okay.
Kevin Dougherty: Yeah.
Brandon: You know what?
Kevin Dougherty: And that's when she goes up to knock on the window, and that's when she sees him.
Brandon: I was not.
Kevin Dougherty: And then Jason throws her through the window.
Brandon: Oh, that's why they were so startled. Okay, I think I might have just turned my head or lost attention for about five to ten seconds and, like, didn't see that because i would have been like, i was going to say before you moved on, i was going be like, wouldn't you be like, hey, man, where's your fiancé?
Kevin Dougherty: Yeah.
Brandon: Didn't she say she was going swimming naked like four hours? and Like you're not in any way concerned.
Kevin Dougherty: yeah that's why they weren't looking for her yeah they probably were hoping she died so they could make out
Brandon: Yeah, I get it. But like there was that other guy too. I'm not really sure what his deal was. The other guy that wasn't her.
Kevin Dougherty: he just came out of the room of like a door and like pulled his pants up. But like, how many people were there? There were only four of them. Was he just in the other room jerking off?
Brandon: Four of them, yeah.
Kevin Dougherty: Like, Oh,
Brandon: He might have been coming out of the bathroom or something.
Kevin Dougherty: oh
Brandon: I think that's what it was. I think he was coming out of the bathroom.
Kevin Dougherty: ah
Brandon: I don't think they were trying to insinuate that he was like frantically masturbating in the other room.
Kevin Dougherty: like he was spying on them making out and jerking off or something.
Brandon: No, no. i I do not believe that's what was inferred in that scene. But, I mean, I could be wrong, yeah.
Kevin Dougherty: Okay, I didn't realize he came out of the bathroom. i didn't know where he came from.
Brandon: I, that's what I, that's where I was assuming he came out.
Kevin Dougherty: Okay.
Brandon: It looked like he was like in there because I think he had been drinking a bit or something too. So he might've been like possibly sick in the bathroom or, you know, just coming the bathroom.
Kevin Dougherty: ah Okay.
Kevin Dougherty: Well, he's definitely pulling his pants up when he came out of there.
Brandon: Yeah, he was definitely pulling his pants.
Kevin Dougherty: Because I was like, oh, this is like the fuck shack where everybody's fucking each other.
Brandon: Yeah.
Kevin Dougherty: And then I was like, wait, there's only four of them there. And the one girl's staying out.
Brandon: Yeah.
Kevin Dougherty: So I was like, so what was that dude doing? I didn't even think about like bathroom. I just thought like everybody who's getting their fuck on or whatever. And then I was like, wait, there are enough people. That dude's fucking jerking off watching them or something.
Brandon: and And nobody thought to say, like, hey, where is your, you know, fiance who said she was going to swim naked hours ago?
Kevin Dougherty: Yeah, yeah. I think before that, as she's walking up to the house, either the cameras pass him by all these different things, or she walks by him and sees him. But you get the, I think the neighbors, I guess, or somebody, they were sitting in the lawn chairs whatever, and they're both, their throats are wet.
Brandon: Yeah.
Kevin Dougherty: And then you see a clothesline with people like purposely hung up to it.
Brandon: Yeah.
Kevin Dougherty: the clothesline, but they're like cut in half and like bleed. So i was like, i was like, oh, that means Jason like is thinking about what to do with the corpse afterwards.
Brandon: Yeah. Well, that's what he usually does. Like, that's part of his whole thing is, like, posing the bodies to like, maximize terror. Like, you know, um I don't just kill you. Like, I fuck with your corpse afterwards to fuck with your friends.
Brandon: You know what I mean? Like, that's his, like, sadistic thing.
Kevin Dougherty: Yeah. I was like, as long as Jason's not like digging tunnels or running through the woods and jumping off roofs like like a ninja, then like I'm okay with whatever he does.
Brandon: Or, yeah, and, like, has, like, an elaborate, like, fucking power grid with, like, floodlights set up and, like, uh, intricate tool system where he's like meticulously like using all kinds of like modern age crafting tools to sharpen his machete and shit rather than just like pulling a rusted one out of fucking tree.
Kevin Dougherty: Yeah.
Brandon: You know what mean? So yeah.
Kevin Dougherty: Yeah, this is more best ah back to basics where he's just grabbing whatever's around.
Brandon: Back basics.
Kevin Dougherty: and Because she's the one that picks up the machete from the 12th before she goes to the house and sees her fiancé cheating on her.
Brandon: Oh, yeah, that's right.
Kevin Dougherty: And then he after Jason throws it through the window, Jason comes around the the door and kicks it in and then takes the the ah blade from the the boat and shoves it into the guy's face.
Brandon: That's true.
Brandon: Yeah, yeah, the per the propeller.
Kevin Dougherty: Yeah.
Brandon: And again, another iconic scene that Doc just described, Jason picking up somebody by their neck and throwing them through the window.
Kevin Dougherty: yeah
Kevin Dougherty: yeah
Brandon: I mean, that's like always like there's always a huge window that a body comes flying through in almost every Friday 13th movie. Like it's required.
Brandon: Yeah.
Kevin Dougherty: yeah and a door being kicked down
Brandon: So, you know, they were capturing a lot of all the fucking, you know what I mean? Like all the kills, like all those moments, they were able to fit them all into 15 minutes and 27 seconds.
Brandon: And yeah, but the moving on, the propeller kill. The first real gory kill, we say.
Kevin Dougherty: Yeah.
Brandon: How do you feel that scene went down? I thought they did a really good job.
Kevin Dougherty: Yeah, i thought it was pretty good. And then he but it picks up like half the blade and like ninja stars into somebody's back.
Brandon: Yeah, ah yeah you like like he had already sliced the dude.
Kevin Dougherty: Yeah. Yeah.
Brandon: I mean, it was pretty cool because I wasn't sure if like somebody was maybe going to come and rescue that guy from getting, but like not. Like Jason just goes right in and with the propeller blade and then rips off the propeller blade and takes the motor
Kevin Dougherty: yeah
Brandon: and stomps it in the stump of the guy's head. You know, his face is gone. His head is pretty much decapitated. And like he still stomps the motor on the open neck hole.
Brandon: husband I mean, that guy probably got let off the easiest because he just gets propeller blade to the back that kills him instantly.
Kevin Dougherty: Yeah, true.
Brandon: Pretty painless ah very painless way to go. Like, if i was going to get killed by Jason, like, that would be one of my more preferred ways to go. Like, it's just a quick...
Kevin Dougherty: Yeah, I don't want to see it coming to my face, that's for sure.
Brandon: Yeah. Yeah, it's exactly. It's about the equivalent of, like, Jason walking in with, like, a 12-gauge shotgun and just shooting you point blank.
Kevin Dougherty: ah Yeah, it'd be ridiculous.
Brandon: You know what i mean? Like, that's about it.
Kevin Dougherty: I don't want to see Jason use a gun, but yeah.
Brandon: Yeah, yeah. No, I don't want to see that either. I'm just saying, you know what I mean. like it
Kevin Dougherty: Yes, yes, yes.
Brandon: Most people don't get afforded the luxury of a one-shot death when faced by Jason.
Kevin Dougherty: Yeah.
Kevin Dougherty: yeah Jason turns his attention on the the cheating fiance and throws her around and the the main character trying to like grab her leg, grab Jason's leg like that's going to stop him.
Brandon: oh Oh, this is great.
Kevin Dougherty: And Jason just takes a machete and and just cuts it right right into her and then turns his attention back to the other girl who he like I guess takes a pie cutter to the face?
Brandon: ah No, this is, I have one.
Kevin Dougherty: cutter?
Brandon: um I've used these my whole life.
Kevin Dougherty: cookie cutter?
Brandon: It's for an apple. What you do is, yeah, um you slam it down on an apple it decores it for you.
Kevin Dougherty: Oh, okay. Oh, it takes the core out. Yeah.
Brandon: And the it just cuts it into like those like normal slices.
Kevin Dougherty: Yeah.
Kevin Dougherty: Four slices or whatever. Yeah.
Brandon: Yeah, my mom used to do that and give it to me with peanut butter as a kid. So when I saw that, I was like, good motherfucking choice.
Kevin Dougherty: Yeah, that makes me want to go out and get a fucking apple and some peanut butter and now.
Brandon: Yeah.
Kevin Dougherty: Fuck.
Brandon: Yeah, right? is
Kevin Dougherty: Bring back childhood their memories.
Brandon: but I will mention that apple cutter again in a minute. But ah yeah, this was my favorite part, I think, is the machete through the stomach and then him going at her with an apple cutter and then her pulling...
Brandon: the machete slowly out of her stomach and screaming. this ah This girl, I don't know her name, but like she really stole the show in terms of acting performances. I think she was the one that pulls the machete out of her stomach.
Brandon: I think she was ah by far the most talented actor in the short.
Kevin Dougherty: Yeah, was it Eve or Dana? yeah
Brandon: I'm I'm not, I can't really remember.
Kevin Dougherty: think it might have been Eve.
Brandon: I think it was Eve. I think it was.
Kevin Dougherty: Yeah.
Brandon: Yeah. And I think it's, I'm going to talk a little more about that, but, uh, so moving moving on, uh, as you said, she was going at the one girl with the apple cutter to the face and like starting to press it into her cheek.
Brandon: And then Eve comes out and he, she does stop him, right? Yeah.
Kevin Dougherty: Yeah, she takes the machete that she pulled out through his back.
Brandon: She shut the machete bruised. Yeah. Yeah.
Kevin Dougherty: Yeah, yeah.
Brandon: Yeah, through his back. And somehow she, at this point, I guess she's like transforming.
Kevin Dougherty: and
Brandon: Because although I don't think the machete would have like instantly killed her, most people would probably have like gone into shock. Or at least after pulling it out, like she's going to be sustaining substantial blood loss at that point.
Kevin Dougherty: Or be bleeding out. Yeah.
Brandon: And would need pretty much immediate medical attention. So it kind of, to me, infers that whatever happened to her in that lake about five minutes prior kind of did something transformatory to her, like the visions of Jason's mother pulling ah the camper down under.
Brandon: And I don't know, like I felt like the lake had some kind of like very rare that we've never seen before in the Jason universe or Friday 13th universe where the lake has some kind of transformatory magical power.
Brandon: What I mean.
Kevin Dougherty: Well, yeah, here's what I got from that and what I mentioned earlier when I thought like, oh, maybe like, oh, if you get killed by Jason, you get like, she's going become Jason.
Brandon: Yeah.
Kevin Dougherty: I think if you drown in that lake, it'll bring you back.
Brandon: Yeah.
Brandon: Oh, yeah. Yeah.
Kevin Dougherty: So it does kind of have some magical power because that's how Jason's brought back. He drowned in the lake. So if like Jason drowns you.
Brandon: Jason had drowned mad other campers in that lake, though, and they didn't know that.
Kevin Dougherty: Yeah, well, this would be a new thing that they're adding to the lore. Yeah.
Brandon: true ne True that. True that.
Kevin Dougherty: that like if ah So that's that makes sense of while she had been down there for hours, she definitely would have died and drowned in that lake.
Brandon: Yeah.
Kevin Dougherty: And now she comes back and you can see it on her face as she's getting looking more and more haggard.
Brandon: Yeah.
Kevin Dougherty: And the fact that she was able to pull that machete out made meant like, because Jason pulls the machete out of him and goes right back after them. So she was becoming...
Brandon: Yeah, that's a very interesting take.
Kevin Dougherty: Yeah, so she was becoming like Jason, and you see it like later on when she grabs the knife from the kitchen, and she she like leaves with the girl the other girl that she saved, and they get in the car, and she's driving, and she's like, I'm so sorry, and she fucking cuts her, and they fucking stabs her in the throat, and they crash into the car, and she gets out unscathed.
Brandon: Yeah.
Brandon: That is real funny.
Brandon: I like first the key thing. Yeah, sorry.
Kevin Dougherty: Yeah, so, sorry. Sorry.
Brandon: Wait, the keys. I'm sorry. I just wanted to mention before getting to the very end, i there was a part where she's like, oh, God, keys. And, like, the girl goes, like, they do the, like, you know, the ah the screeching music where Jason, like, usually is raising up with his machete or about to make a kill.
Kevin Dougherty: yeah yeah
Brandon: And they make that sound. And she, like, yeah doesn't look at her at all. She just quickly, like, raises up the keys with one arm, like, no luck. And yeah, I thought that like, you know, the element of comedy, like they really encapsulate a lot in that 15 minutes.
Brandon: But sorry, please continue, Doc.
Kevin Dougherty: yeah no no i'm glad you brought that up because yeah that was really good shot yeah
Brandon: Yeah, I just wanted to mention that one scene because I thought it was really funny, but.
Kevin Dougherty: Yeah, then she does it again when she gets in the car and she's like she's like, what are getting in the car? and then she gets in the car and she does it again with the keys, like right to her face without looking at her.
Brandon: Yeah, yeah.
Kevin Dougherty: yeah
Brandon: yeah so Yeah, it's kind of like a double take, you know what I mean, at that point.
Kevin Dougherty: Yeah. Yeah.
Brandon: And yeah, that's when I knew there was something going on, and I knew the girl driving was going to get it.
Kevin Dougherty: Yeah.
Brandon: I just wasn't sure
Kevin Dougherty: you
Brandon: how
Kevin Dougherty: You would think you would wait until like you got someplace where she wasn't driving anymore and you would do it. But yeah, she stabs her in the neck and they crash. And this is where it comes into, again, where she can survive anything because she now has like the same power as Jason.
Kevin Dougherty: So she gets out and she you know picks out the knife and she's standing face to face with Jason.
Brandon: yeah
Kevin Dougherty: They walk towards each other and you get coast of blackness. So...
Brandon: Yeah, she has no fear. Like, she's like, yo, I'm not running. Like, I'm coming after you, which I had ah read something about, like, the creator, like, when he was writing this.
Brandon: He had different ideas at one point, like, he was going to say that, uh, it is Eve, right, where I don't want to, like, fuck up the name. I don't. Because I was thinking Eve, like as in Adam and the Eve, like her being the first.
Kevin Dougherty: Yeah, exactly.
Brandon: So I thought there was maybe some symbolism there, whether or not that was intentional or not. I wasn't sure.
Kevin Dougherty: Yeah, it definitely feels intentional.
Brandon: But I thought that was interesting.
Kevin Dougherty: Yeah.
Brandon: And I saw something about where like they had an idea where Jason was going to notice that like, you know, She obviously came back from the dead. She's more than human.
Brandon: And like there was an idea where Jason was going to kill all the other campers. And he was just going to like follow her around for a while or something.
Kevin Dougherty: No, that's good.
Brandon: Like stalking her but not killing her because he realized that she was probably like him and couldn't die. And he just didn't know what to do. And it was going to end with like Jason confused.
Brandon: Which I guess they kind of did pull off because like Jason had to be kind of confused because he's never had somebody step to him like that before.
Kevin Dougherty: um Or do you think that maybe like when Jason was stalking them during the day before he kills her in the canoe, like he was already in the water and he could see the other group of friends or whatever fishing and maybe already saw them ah making out.
Kevin Dougherty: So he was like, oh, like she'll be a perfect candidate to be able to come back because you need ah a good revenge to be able to come back from the dead and like a good reason.
Brandon: me
Kevin Dougherty: So he was like, maybe he saw like, like okay, Like I'll, I'll, I know that they're cheating on each other cause I saw them all come together or whatever. Like he figured it out. Like, uh, obviously it would change like the story of Jason being this, like, you know, not unthinking, unrelenting killer.
Kevin Dougherty: Like he'd obviously put some thought into it or you could say that the mother was at like, the maybe the mother's still alive in this universe.
Brandon: Kind of like the spirit of the mother went into her was another like theory that like I had in my head.
Kevin Dougherty: Kind of like how Freddy was controlling Jason and Freddy versus Jason by becoming a mother and was like, this is what you should do, Jason.
Brandon: Yeah. Yeah.
Kevin Dougherty: You should go this way or whatever. could be something like that where it's like, oh, you should kill this girl because she'll come back and see that her friends are hooking up and she'll have a perfect reason to become like you.
Brandon: yeah
Kevin Dougherty: know yeah.
Brandon: I mean, they don't fail to leave the human imagination to really wander.
Kevin Dougherty: yeah
Brandon: So that was something that I thought that they did very effectively there. ah Because, you know, at one, you know, it looks like they're about to like, because she gets like a smile on her face right as she goes at him at the end. So like, that's something Jason definitely never experienced. to Somebody like coming at, like stepping to him and yet stepping to him with like,
Brandon: no fear and maybe even confidence and like you know i mean and i it also though leads you to wonder do would they actually go at it were they going to battle or were they going to go up and jason was going to do that thing where he kind of like tilts his head like you know what i mean like that weird luck thing you know what mean where he does the uh
Kevin Dougherty: Yeah,
Kevin Dougherty: yeah yeah, like a dog. Yeah, yeah.
Brandon: incorporated that in the South Park where they had Jason in there. And, you know, um I was wondering, like, would they just come face to face and just stare each other down?
Brandon: And then, like, she would just, like, kind of go off with the butcher knife and he would just kind of stalk after her with the machete and, like, they would start killing in tandem. Like, you know what I mean?
Kevin Dougherty: You get this half of the lake, I get this half of the lake.
Brandon: Like, his mother reborn...
Kevin Dougherty: Yeah. Yeah.
Brandon: Yeah, like his mother reborn, and like Jason goes off, and yeah, Jason starts wiping out one half, she starts wiping out the other half, and they meet in the middle. And then the cycle just repeats.
Kevin Dougherty: there there
Kevin Dougherty: yeah but
Brandon: you know Because Jason, the one thing I hear what you're saying about how he was waiting for in the water and everything, but I had to figure, it seems like most of the kills we see are off camera.
Brandon: Like you pointed out how everybody, so the majority, we only see three actual kills, I think, with the fiance, the propeller guy, and then the girl that had the apple cutter who gets stabbed.
Kevin Dougherty: yeah Yes, yes.
Kevin Dougherty: Yes.
Brandon: So I think that's the only kills we actually see on screen and everybody else. So Jason was doing a substantial amount of killing. So he was working his way through like systematically.
Kevin Dougherty: Yeah, he was he was straight daytime killing. Like, he wasn't even waiting until the night.
Brandon: Yeah, daytime killing, and it seemed like he just, like the two people on the patio, it seemed like he just walked up to them.
Kevin Dougherty: Yeah.
Brandon: ah Like, hey, I'm Jason, you're dead.
Kevin Dougherty: Yeah.
Brandon: Nah, nah, nah.
Kevin Dougherty: Like, they didn't even bother to get up. He was like he's like, don't get up, we'll make this quick. But, like yeah, like the fact that he was just he wasn't out there you know just you know not doing anything during the day like he normally will hunt at night, but he was out there murdering people during the day, like people, broad daylight, people can see him.
Kevin Dougherty: So yeah, overall, I liked this short very much.
Brandon: Yeah.
Kevin Dougherty: And I just watched it before we came on.
Brandon: Yeah, me too. Yeah.
Kevin Dougherty: So it was like real fresh. So i was just throwing
Brandon: Yeah, you were saying wanted it fresh. And I think the fact that we're about, we I mean, it was a 15 minute short and we've been talking about for what about a half hour. I think that's emblematic.
Brandon: That like you know it really merits like a discussion, you know, a lot work went into it a lot of thought and it had good production value and I will just say this.
Brandon: um And you know you can tell me what you think, but you know i've been. Very vocal on this cast about how skeptical I am about the reemergence of the Friday the 13th franchise.
Brandon: But with the new, very positive news coming from Crystal Lake that's a little bit hard to deny now, the confirmation of a new game and you know the apparent ceasefire and the legal entanglements with Cunningham and that other idiot.
Brandon: It does appear with this short, this is exactly the way you would go about raising interest to a franchise that just simply hasn't existed in the minds of a lot of you know teenagers and you know young adults these days.
Brandon: So this this is the national campaign. The fact that it was free for everyone to say, like, this is how you would want to reemerge a franchise.
Brandon: So I am now, i said I was never going to, like, give in until I actually saw something. Well, you know, I have seen something now. And my outlook is slowly but surely changing.
Kevin Dougherty: And now there's behind the scenes photo of Crystal Lake, the series.
Brandon: And yes.
Kevin Dougherty: So you can actually see something from there. And they're shooting in New Jersey at the original where they originally shot the first one.
Brandon: Yes.
Brandon: And ah in Phillipsburg, where we've been many times, we had a friend whose band played up there. I mean, you went up there and we spent some time up there. Yeah, I mean, it's way up there north of Frenchtown.
Brandon: think it was an old steel mining town, and, uh, yeah, I mean, there, it's a very hilly, uh, lots of, uh, lots of, like, rocky wilderness terrain, so, yeah, I mean, definitely a good place, uh, to shoot, i'm really glad that they're shooting it on location where they shot some of the, uh, early, uh, earlier films, so, uh,
Kevin Dougherty: And it looks like we're actually going to see some of the town this time. I mean, feel like in one of the other ones, I can't remember which one, that there was like some houses that they went to that weren't far from where the cabins were.
Brandon: yeah
Brandon: Yeah.
Kevin Dougherty: I believe it was Jason Lives.
Brandon: it
Kevin Dougherty: ah
Brandon: I think so, too.
Kevin Dougherty: No.
Brandon: Well, it was, it might have been, it might have been the final chapter.
Kevin Dougherty: No, it was Final Friday.
Kevin Dougherty: Final chapter, yeah, because it was Corey Feldman, I believe.
Brandon: Yeah. Yeah, it was the, it was the fourth, it was the fourth film.
Kevin Dougherty: He lived in house.
Brandon: Yeah.
Kevin Dougherty: He lived in a house in that town, so but we didn't really get to see like the whole town, so we'll actually get to see some of that in this series, I hope, which will be really cool.
Brandon: Yeah.
Kevin Dougherty: um But yeah, um last thing I wanted to say about the the short was, like you said, it is a very good start and a good good way to bring back you know, the series. And what I, another thing I liked about it was it wasn't just like a regular ah kill thing. It like, like we, like I just watched and didn't read anything else about it and was able to like, you know, figure out, Oh, okay. She drowned in the lake. You know what mean? it Without it holding your hand, it told you the story without holding your hand and telling you what was happening.
Kevin Dougherty: It made you come to the, made you come to the conclusion of that's what happened at this lake on your own without being like, Oh,
Brandon: Yeah.
Kevin Dougherty: Oh, how did you survive? You've been drowning for hours. You know what mean? Like, it like, I like that.
Brandon: Yeah.
Kevin Dougherty: It didn't, it didn't tell you what was happening. It showed you and made you come up with your theories on what had happened.
Brandon: Yeah.
Kevin Dougherty: So, yeah.
Brandon: and did that And in that respect, a kind of like extends. Yeah. the movie beyond that 15 minute marker, because, you know, you're going to be, you know, uh, like I said, we've already been talking about, uh, the movie for, you know, over, over a half hour. And, uh, yeah, I mean, the, the imagination is just going to carry.
Brandon: And, uh, yeah, I just think this is a great way jumpstart the franchise again. And, uh,
Kevin Dougherty: yeah
Brandon: that's That's pretty much all I have. Do you have any final words of wisdom or any other news that you have on the horizon?
Kevin Dougherty: yeah i mean i'm not sure no well i'm just not sure how i would like i liked how they did it for the short but going forward for the series and other movies i'm not sure how i feel if anybody just drowns there they come back as a ah thing but they're gonna they i mean they're gonna need to explain that a little bit better and maybe like the crystal lake series can it's some like ancient evil or something in the fucking lake or something but i kind of always like the theory that uh he was brought back using the necronomicon and like so then it's i think because i believe that ties into um the freddie versus jason versus ash
Brandon: Agreed.
Brandon: Don't they talk about that in Jason goes to hell? Uh, in, in, then it was the ninth movie. And, uh, I think, like I mean, it was real ridiculous.
Brandon: Jason's spirit basically passes from person to person like that creature did in, uh,
Kevin Dougherty: Yeah, yeah.
Brandon: Kyle MacLachlan, The Hidden. and ah But and don't they make references to the Necronomicon in that? I think they do, but I'm not 100% certain.
Kevin Dougherty: It might have. It's
Brandon: But I think they make well they make a reference that like an ancient evil has brought them back. And then in Jason X, Jason in Space... in the very beginning, the guy says, we're keeping Jason alive.
Brandon: His ability to regenerate human tissue is, you know, something we've never seen before. That's why we have him in, ah you know, Carbonite, and we're studying him.
Kevin Dougherty: Yeah, yeah.
Brandon: So, you know, but with with me, I don't think they're going to show that at all.
Kevin Dougherty: I think it was in
Brandon: I think it was just in this short. I don't think it's going to be present in the series or in future films.
Kevin Dougherty: Yeah.
Brandon: I don't think anyone is going to come back from...
Kevin Dougherty: Yeah.
Brandon: you know, death in the lake. That's mine.
Kevin Dougherty: Besides Jason.
Brandon: Yeah.
Kevin Dougherty: But yeah, I think it definitely has to be something with his mother using some type of, you know... magic or some spell or something like that for it to make sense for him to come back.
Brandon: Yeah.
Kevin Dougherty: And like because that's why I hope it is. I hope it's not just some dude. You know what i mean?
Brandon: Yeah.
Kevin Dougherty: I don't want it to be just some guy. I want it to be this unstoppable supernatural force.
Brandon: yeah
Kevin Dougherty: And I believe the Necronomicon actually tied into it in the Freddy vs. Jason vs. Ash, which was originally supposed to be the next movie. But they and ended up turning that into the comic book series. Because I believe it's like Freddy's using Jason to get the Necronomicon to um get Freddy from the dream world into the real world.
Kevin Dougherty: And Ash is trying to stop him. I believe that's what the comic's about.
Brandon: yeah
Kevin Dougherty: Or that that might have been helping or that was what the original that might have been what the original script was.
Brandon: i'm not I'm not familiar with it, so i can't really i can't really speak to that, but I'll have take your word for it.
Kevin Dougherty: I can't remember. but yeah because i haven't gotten I didn't read all of the the comics, so I don't know.
Brandon: Yeah. I know the Necronomicon is mentioned, i believe, somewhere in the Freddy universe. I think in, like, the sixth film they, like, mention – They mention, like, how he escapes from hell and all that stuff and, you know, shit like that.
Brandon: But, I mean, I just never really put too much into into those stories and those obscure references. I mean, you know, ah that's not why I was watching those movies for.
Kevin Dougherty: Yeah, yeah. I mean, I wouldn't mind this happening at some point down the line where if they are able to reboot um Nightmare and on Elm Street without, you know, with a new Freddy Krueger, like, without...
Brandon: Yeah.
Brandon: I'd rather not see Freddy and Jason Tangle ever again.
Kevin Dougherty: ah final I want to see...
Brandon: I don't want to see them like, you know, you know, I mean, unless somebody like maybe mentions Freddy Krueger in a Friday the 13th movie or something.
Kevin Dougherty: um don't want to see
Brandon: I don't ever want to see them occupy the same space in the same film or the same series ever again.
Kevin Dougherty: Yeah, I think the only way I want to see either Freddy or Michael Myers in the Jason universe is if it's a ah movie that also exists in that universe. Like somebody's watching it on somebody's watching Halloween on TV or something like that in the movie.
Brandon: Yeah. Yeah.
Kevin Dougherty: That's fine with me, but. I wouldn't mind having the Necronomicon in there. I mean, they obviously, you're not going to get Bruce Campbell to come back as Ash, so we'll never see Jason versus Ash.
Kevin Dougherty: But just including, I think, the Necronomicon itself, even if there's no other links to with Evil Dead, because I think that's a really, like, the Book of the Dead is a great way to bring somebody back to life.
Kevin Dougherty: So I would like it.
Brandon: No, of course, I mean, yeah, I mean, that's one of its main purposes,
Kevin Dougherty: And it could just be more of an Easter egg to the other movies and never actually crossover, which, which I think would be cool.
Brandon: true that, true that, no, I mean, I think we, uh, covered this, um, like I said, you know, this, uh, made me very enthusiastic, I felt very happy, I watched it twice, and, uh,
Kevin Dougherty: But yeah, that's all I got. Did you have any final thoughts?
Brandon: I skimmed over it again a third time before the cast, and you know I'll probably watch it a few more times while I'm waiting for more content to come out. But yeah, no, that's all I got.
Brandon: Thank you for joining us. Good night and good the luck.
Kevin Dougherty: And don't forget to follow us social media. It's Fright Central on Facebook. And we will be back same time ah next week, even though I will post this way later than I normally do.
Kevin Dougherty: I've been changing it up to Fridays instead of Sundays. So, yeah, keep a lookout for that. All right. Thanks.
