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GAL CHAT with The Bombadcast!
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Welcome to GAL Chat with The GALactic Podcast! In this episode, Andrea and Lauren had the pleasure of talking with Gerry and Scotty from the Bombadcast! They discussed a few "What If" Star Wars scenarios! From Ezra to Padmé they have fun talking about the possibilities and what could of been.
As always, please like, share and subscribe to the podcast where available. Follow us on twitter @theGALacticpod. And as always, may the that force be with you!
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Introduction to The Galactic Podcast
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This podcast is part of the Red 5 Network. For more Red 5 Network podcasts, visit red5network.com.
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All right. Well, hello, everyone. Welcome to The Galactic Podcast. I am Laura Romo with me, as always, is my cousin and fellow nerd, Adria Gutierrez. Yo, yo. What's going on, Ang? Oh, you know, just living in the mitten. Living that sweet life, that Michigan life. So you doing all right, pal? Yeah, I'm all right. You're doing good. All right.
Star Wars Podcast Growth and Camaraderie
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Well, we have a really good show today. We're going to have a lot of fun.
00:00:47
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So if this is your first time listening to us, though, welcome. We are Star Wars podcast to discuss anything and everything within the galaxy far, far away. In each episode, we will dive into one or two topics and have a general discussion on them. Topics could be movies, TV series, books, comics, a specific character, you name it. We talk about it, Andrea. Yo. So we have some friends with us tonight. I love friends. I'm excited. We have friends.
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So we have our good friends from the bomb bad cast. We got Jerry, Cannon Junkie, and Scotty, too cool for school, wears shades all the time. Jiggy, bro. What's going on, boys? Oh, it's great. Not much. What's going on, gals? Good to be here again, finally. Super stoked.
00:01:43
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Super stoked. Yes, we are. We are so excited to have you guys on. So before we get into our fun topic, what's what's been going on with Bombad? How you guys been doing? You guys doing all right during this whole kind of crazy quarantine life we're living? See, I'm a school teacher and yeah, it's it's been interesting. Don't get me wrong. It's been definitely a learning curve and a different process as to normally doing things. But yeah, I mean, making the best of it, watching a lot more stuff, doing a lot more like, you know,
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I guess mental health stuff. It's weird. And then I know that's kind of a strange thing to say, but like, I feel a little bit happier not having to go and spend a lot of money in doing stuff. But yeah, it's weird. How dare you show your humanity? How dare you let them peek behind the curtain, Scotty? That's the moment that they come to get you. That's the moment they let the next two out of the cage and it scratches your back and rips
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like basically your shirt into a mid-drift. And everyone laughs at you. Everyone loves it. Yeah, that's true. That's true. Did we really laugh or did we love it? We loved it. We loved Padme's mid-drift. Yes. Yes, because there was nothing like that was like the death throes of the 90s in 2002. Like, see, Britney Spears wears one of these, right? Yeah. We're hip. Okay.
00:03:06
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George. There's nothing. I don't know. Good, good old George. George. Yeah, it was just a small scratch, but the whole bottom half of her shirt just ripped right off. Right. I'm not sure how that happened, but OK. You know, at that time, breakaway clothing like, you know, they had the pants that zipped into shorts. So maybe it was a similar kind of shirt and just kind of. Yeah.
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That's fair. That's fair. Oh my gosh.
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What do you guys got cooking on the bomb bed though? I know you guys are coming up on your big in the big five. Oh, episodes guys. Oh my goodness. It's so weird. It really is so bizarre because like, it feels like yesterday that we were like, let's try it. You know, anything let's figure something out. And here we are, you know, like, and we found our footing and, and it's so weird. Like I felt like bomb bad cast and the got lactic podcast, like kind of grew up together. That might sound really weird.
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but like we were all finding our niches and what we did best. It's been really kind of cool. I don't know. Yeah. No, I 100% agree with you, Scotty. Yeah. It's been kind of a kind of, we did it at the same time, basically around the same time. So it's really, yeah, it's really cool.
00:04:23
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It's crazy. It's like that camaraderie that's built between everybody, you know, and you know, they said it couldn't be done. They really, a lot of people in Scotty's life actually never thought we could do 50 of anything. And yeah, here we are. So there you go. I mean, I guess here's one for the haters and the lovers.
'What If' Segment Introduction
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There you go. No, you can't. No, you can't beat it. Can't beat it at all. Well, again, thank you guys so much for coming on with us. We're so excited to have you guys on and just talk some silly Star Wars with us as always. So topic that we're going to do today and it's going to be it's going to be fun. So we're all familiar with Marvel and Disney Plus is coming out with a show for Marvel that's called What If and the concept is
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doing different scenarios within the Marvel Cinematic Universe, but if something was changed. So I thought it'd be fun if we did that with Star Wars. So we all brought has a couple of what if scenarios that we were that we're going to shoot out and we're going to kind of talk about for sure. So I want to start with Scotty.
What if Darth Vader Survived?
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Okay. Let's start with you. So what? Okay. Is that wise Lauren? I want to hit y'all with the mind blowing one first and then I'm going to come back with a silly one later. You know me. I got it. I got it.
00:05:58
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at the beginning, right? I gotta be a teacher, right? I gotta be, I gotta hook you in. I gotta make you think I'm actually pretty good at what I do. And for me, okay, so if I'm not mistaken, this might already be a EU story. I think, I don't know. I really don't know. Because the EU is kind of, let's be completely honest here, a what if.
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of Star Wars.
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suit, right? Oh, wow. And like, is that something Jerry? I know you're a kid. Well, I mean that that I've never read it. It's it's a dark horse comic that they did. They had a what if series. Okay. Or I think it's called Star Wars Infinites or something. Okay.
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Yeah, cool name. I mean, I don't know why they haven't rebooted it, honestly. And it's honestly because of, they've probably been on Twitter a couple of times, maybe, and seeing kind of how we freak out, or some people freak out about a certain, is it canon or isn't it? Anyway.
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That's the thing, though, like it was. Yeah, that was a real thing. Darth White Darth Vader, you know, white chocolate, Darth Vader, you know, chocolate and dark chocolate and eighty five, ninety five percent, you know, so. So my big what if is, you know, let's say Vader. OK, this is where my what if gets a little bit a little bit of a variance. What if Vader was there for Ben? Like truly in the end, you know what I mean? What if Vader was the one that that that could have stopped his grandson from going to the dark side? What would Luke have?
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made the mistake Lou made, you know, whenever he pulled his saber out over Ben, would Anakin have stopped him in that moment, or I guess, because he would have been Anakin. He would have been an invader. He would have been Anakin Skywalker. And I don't know how much, you know, and I would love to hear some of y'all's concepts and ideas that like, you know, immediately come to your head after this. But like, would Vader living really have made that much of a difference into what we have with
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everything dealing with Ben and Luke and Hanaleis, you know, mistake in regards to how they didn't handle their son properly. I think it's interesting. I don't know. What do y'all think? Oh, that is a good one because would it change? That's a, that's a good, that's a good question because you could argue both sides. I mean, you could say that maybe if somehow Vader lives, Luke is able to, I don't know, convince people somehow that'd be a huge, that'd be a huge
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huge thing to try to do is to convince people that this guy is not evil anymore after years and years and years of it. But I like that. That would have been interesting if he was the one that brought
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Ben back too. Like that's a, that's an interesting concept that I wish they would have maybe even did to some effect have an Anakin, maybe not Vader, but Anakin.
Padme's Survival and its Impact
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But if Vader was actually the one, like if, if Ben was following Vader, not knowing that he actually turned good and kept, you know, kept maybe the Vader persona. I don't know if he would have kept the Vader persona, but like, like you're saying, like seeing this, this helmet in that figure, but you know,
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Assuming he was bad, but actually he was good. Oh, yeah guys. Ooh, my mind goes crazy. I like this. Well, that's the thing, like, would he have got a, you know, a Buzz Lightyear helmet? Because I feel like the Vader helmet would have been too scary. Guys, stay out of my head. Stay out of my head, man. That's what I was thinking, because I'm like, does white Darth Vader look
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Great. Like, I don't I don't know. Like, it does it. It's a neat idea. Like, what would he do? I feel like he would want to do like we is already we know the Anakin's already got like a Buzz Lightyear scuba diving outfit. So I guess it's a space outfit. That's that's canon, man. Like spacesuits for Jedi when they put a helmet. It looks like Buzz Lightyear, right?
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It kind of does. I remember, just so random, but I remember when Rogue One was being teased, the description of, wow, why is my brain, Saw Gerrera, was that he looked like Buzz Lightyear and I'm like, that is the true reign this way to the surprise life. I guess it was a come here. Exactly. Straight, little man.
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Yeah, I guess my question really kind of really besides the what if Vader really live minds were what if What would have happened essentially to the Skywalker lineage? Would it have been you know a much better? Outcome for them because of Anakin's I guess redemption which he had but redemption and survival, right? Yeah
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Andrew, what do you think? I kind of go down the path where Leia would have really struggled with having a relationship with him after all of this. I mean, you hear the, you know, the story she tells Ransom Casterfo and Bloodline of him torturing her the way he stood behind her and held her when when Alderaan exploded. Yeah.
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She, you know, she had a lot of reasons to, you know, not believe in his redemption because it kind of even came across that maybe, you know, that's what Luke said, but she never got to see it. So I don't think I think that would be maybe would have tore Leia down a little bit too much. I wonder.
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would have maybe even broke up the Skywalker legacy more by him staying alive because I'm sure it would have brought some kind of rift between her and Luke because he believes his father is good. She doesn't necessarily. So I see it as as like a soap opera. That sounds really freaking dramatic.
Ahsoka's Influence on Anakin
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That would be the outcome, really. It would be it would be so proper level confusion. And then like, I mean, OK, I'm not even going to say because I know my next what if I'm not going to say that loud.
00:12:23
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Andrea you have made me want a story like this somehow because it would be it would almost be darker than the sequel trilogy that we got I feel like it for Leia at least a little bit if you think about it from her perspective because
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In canon, yeah, you've got that story where she's like, it really affected her and you've got to think. I'm like, and Luke, it's funny because in Return of the Jedi, Luke just drops it and it's just like, yeah, Vader's my father and I have a sister and it's you. It's like, oh, okay. It's like, you don't get that later. Like, wait a second. Darth Vader's my dad too. What the? You know, and just, but I don't know.
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That is an interesting, that would be an interesting story, just like an introspective story of what if he had survived, what would be going through, like what would each of these characters, true to themselves as we know them, how would they, not just Luke, Luke was the, he believed in Vader, he believed in Anakin.
00:13:18
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How would each of these people, Han was tortured by Vader, Shu was tortured by Vader, you know? All of these people were affected by Vader, I mean Luke was too, but Luke to an extent, I guess didn't get the torture as much as, I don't know, there was a lot of emotional stuff there for him as well.
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But you got to think that's got to be a twisty, dark, what's everyone's motives? Do they try to maybe, do they believe him? Do they try to investigate him? Do they even hire someone to maybe get rid of him? You know what I mean?
00:13:52
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There could be some real dark like almost What's what's the show? I'm thinking of like breaking bad type of stuff like you know Get into something. I don't know, but I also might be reaching a little bit, but I like that I like that I want that story now I think it could be done in a canonical sense. I mean not canonical. Sorry. Whoa, it ain't not canonical sense Home down on their Scotty
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Yeah, it's a cool scenario. I'm glad you liked it. Really? Yeah. All right. What's your other one, Scott? Oh, OK, cool. I can do my boat. Oh, great. OK. I thought we do a round. Oh, heck yeah. OK, so my other one. Well, this is your boat. OK, this is podcasting. Let's go. This is your own boat. It is.
00:14:41
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Okay, this is crazy because this one came to me whenever Andrew was talking, okay? Because it hit, because I thought, okay, Leia had her perspective, right? Leia, I don't know if Leia would be able to convince that Vader's a good dude after what she had been through, watching her planet get blown up, watching everyone she knows dies. It's just horrible. But my other, it came right into my brain. What if Padme had lived after that choke?
00:15:09
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where Anna can end up inevitably killing. I mean, kind of the cause of death, really. I believe it's the cause of death. I don't think she died from sadness, quote unquote. I do believe she died from that choke, essentially, is what kind of brought it on. But so what I'm trying to say essentially is what if Padme had lived
00:15:27
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after that choke, okay? So when it comes, when it kind of boils down after saying that out loud, it's like, she would have Luke and Leia, okay? She would probably go into hiding of some sort, or maybe hide out on Alderaan with Bael, would, you know, the Imperials have really gone and looked for her? Or do you think Anakin, you think Palpatine may have still told Anakin, oh, you killed her, and your anger, because Palpatine probably would have done that to like push Vader to the edge, you know?
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Yeah, and like would Padme have like maybe pushed the rebellion off more or maybe she would have put into hiding That's the thing. There's like 20 scenarios that opens up if Padme had lived, you know, and now it's it's only interesting because She would have dealt she would have
00:16:12
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You've seen Vader inevitably. It would not have been Anakin because it was Vader at that point. I believe that when, you know, I guess Anakin ended up choking her at that point, mentally, it was like Vader. And it's just weird because she would have had to have dealt with that, you know, and everything that came from that and then having kids by herself as a as a single mom. And, you know, I don't know. It's interesting. I never thought about it until until Andrea bring up those points about Leia, because Leia's
00:16:41
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You know, as much as we love Leia, she got that from Padme, you know, and I wonder what Padme would have done. Any thoughts?
00:16:48
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Yeah, you know it who? I think that that brings. Well, yeah, like you said, it brings up so many different scenarios that can happen. Like one, if she lives, does Vader try to find her? Yeah, I know. Does Palpatine keep saying that she's dead? But again, does he kind of go against Palpatine kind of like what he sort of does in the comics and tries to find out information about him?
00:17:14
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So like I could see that where he still kind of looks for information to see what was going
Padme's Survival - Rebellion and Skywalker Family
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on. And maybe if she is alive, he finds her. And then, oh, now that would be a that would be an interesting confrontation. So you imagine like Anakin as Vader. Oh, yes. Yes. And I imagine like Luke growing up with such a strong role model, he would have already been as strong as Leia was, you know, in terms of like
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her, you know, lay is obviously strong with her, just who she is as a person. She's a strong character and a strong individual. So like, I truly couldn't imagine where, where Luke would be as well. Luke would probably be pretty hotheaded. I mean, not that Padme wasn't, Padme is not hotheaded. Padme is very logical, but she has kind of a Han Solo, like, if you're not doing this, I'm going to get it done myself. Like Ginoza. That's why she's so interesting, right? Is that Padme, through most of the, like throughout the prequels is like,
00:18:10
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I am a like, I'm for peace. I'm for getting, you know, I don't want war. I don't want stuff like that. But if you are going to threaten people, innocent people, if there's not going to be any action taken by these politics, I'm going to do what I can. It's that spirit that Leah really shows, right? Like I'm going to do what I can to take it into my own hands and do what I can to fix it. Right.
00:18:35
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Yeah. Would she have started the rebellion earlier? And can you imagine her confronting Palpatine because she knew him as just chancellor. Think of her going to the Emperor. She would have no reverence for the man. Yeah. That would be the talking down of a lifetime and I want it so bad.
00:19:00
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That'd be interesting who would that be an interesting one? So when Scotty when you're saying that it could have possibly made Luke a little bit like more What did you say confident or like full? Yeah, yeah, like more resolved
00:19:15
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Personally, it could have done the opposite. It could have just instilled fear into both of him and Leia if they were in hiding all the time and always jumping from planet to planet and worrying about being captured or anything like that.
00:19:32
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That could have had a huge negative effect. Personally, I don't think Padme would have stood for hiding that long. I think that she eventually would have came out and possibly been like a fulcrum for bail and was very like behind the scenes.
00:19:48
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She used Leon Luke to recruit rebels and, you know, all of that. I think that she she would have, you know, kind of been in the shadows for a little bit, but then I don't think she could have, you know, held back for that long and she would have jumped right into taking taking the the galaxy back in and ending the empire. Absolutely. She would not have stood for an imperial run galaxy. No way. No, no. Absolutely.
00:20:18
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Yeah, it's just interesting because you it's so weird. Like I guess now and thank God the prequels are getting so much more love now because I imagine people. I mean, I don't know. I wasn't I wasn't old enough, but like I'd imagine to some extent people were very disappointed with Padme, but I have always grown up with her.
00:20:36
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Because I see her strictly as a strong character. You know, she's a confident, great leader. And obviously, Leia inherits those things innately. I mean, Leia was never around her real mother, you know? And it's just it's just cool because, you know, Luke has that somewhere within him as well. But Luke got a little bit more of that, you know, Anakin, like kind of not shyness because Anakin's not really shy. It's interesting. I don't know. We've we've gone down a rabbit hole here.
00:21:04
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I think that it is important that unfortunately Padme had to pass on because it serves the story of Anakin in the prequels. But it would have been interesting to have an original trilogy where Anakin Skywalker's former wife was still alive and maybe causing havoc for Anakin. It could have been literally a horrible divorce going on.
00:21:33
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Yeah. You can imagine that like her hunting, hunting him down almost. Yeah. Crazy. Yeah. I like that. I like that a lot. Scotty, two great what ifs. I love those. Those are really good one. Really good one. Uh, let's jump to Jerry. Jerry, what do you got my friend? What, what if scenarios do you got?
00:21:53
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All right, well, being the deep cut lover that I am, I'm just gonna, I guess, what I'm trying to, and by saying that, I mean, you know, I'm just such a good fan. Oh, man. I'm just kidding.
00:22:10
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I was just trying to really think because I didn't want to get something that I thought, because me and Scotty didn't really collaborate before this. I didn't want to take someone else's answer or anything or scenario. I really thought about what are some really off the beaten path choices that are pretty...
00:22:33
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I mean, if they had gone another direction, they would have, I think, had some lasting consequences for the galaxy. And so my first one is, I think, very apropos, seeing as that the Clone Wars just ended. And it is, what if Ahsoka had stayed in the Jedi Order? Would
00:22:58
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I guess the line of thinking that leads me to is, would that have made a difference to Anakin's fault? Interesting. She would have been with him most of that time. One of those things where if you have a friend who's got an addiction or something, if someone's right in the beginning of trying to heal from an addiction, if they're alone for too long,
00:23:21
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You know they can fall back into you know if they have stress or whatever they can fall back into their addiction and like almost if you have someone there with you like a sponsor to play like Ahsoka is almost she was almost like the last good thing about Anakin that wasn't a secret.
00:23:36
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You know, like Agme is good and all that, but their whole relationship is kind of like built on a lie that they're not married. But it's funny how many people now know, we know knew about it because it was very blatant.
00:23:52
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So now we realize, oh, they do have eyes. Okay, good. I don't know. What do you guys think? Do you think that that would have made any difference? Like, what do you think would have happened had Ahsoka decided to come back into the order? I know that, you know, Mace probably would have been a lot more, a little less catty to her there for the encounters. Don't even get me started, Mace. Anyway.
00:24:16
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It's an interesting idea because, again, you could totally argue where if he sees her and early on, like you're saying, early on, where he's still very, very conflicted, because I think, obviously, eventually, he just accepts him being as Vader. But early on, especially when you read the comics, that comic that came out from Charles Soule,
00:24:40
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He was very conflicted. So it's an interesting idea that maybe, maybe Ahsoka, you know, at that early time, like you're saying, Jerry, maybe she, she gets them and maybe she says, Hey man, let's get out of here. We can, we can change, you know, together. I'm going to be here with you through it and all that. I, I, I, you could argue that she could have, she, and like you said, she might've been the only one that could, she might've been the only one that could at that time, at that time, I bet.
00:25:08
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I think that if Ahsoka would have stayed in the Jedi Order and she would have stayed, you know, as Anakin's Padawan, that the Chancellor's slash Palpatine slash Darth Sidious would have somehow eliminated her. I feel like her end would have happened a lot sooner.
00:25:28
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because I feel like she was a really great influence of him being able to give himself his own advice. Every time he was giving Ahsoka advice, it was almost like he was giving himself advice and it had that great self-reflection on it. And he learned every time he was teaching Ahsoka and it was great to see and it made him stronger. And I feel like
00:25:58
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you know, Sidious would have noticed that, and I feel like he would have, he would have assassinated Ahsoka, or at least tried to. I like to lean towards tried, honestly, just because Ahsoka has proven how, like, bad A.C. really is, man.
00:26:16
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But but I yeah, yeah, that's man. I mean, think about that. That that is true. He would have definitely tried to eliminate her. So. Yeah, that's true. Dang. Anything good, anything good Anakin had? He's just.
00:26:32
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taken away. I think, you know, in its own weird way, obviously I feel like this is going to sound insane. Okay. And I'm sorry, surprising.
00:26:48
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If Ahsoka had not obviously been excommunicator, she excommunicated herself from the Jedi Order. I honestly think this is bad. I think she could have fallen to the dark side because she was already angry enough at the fact that the Jedi Order was so, I mean, they made her go through so much
00:27:13
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even though she did nothing wrong essentially, right? And obviously was not the one guilty. So I almost think, now this is crazy, but let's say Anakin was assigned that role by the Jedi Council to spy on Palpatine. I think Ahsoka would have been like, that's wrong. Like you can't do that. And then she might've been a little bit pushed over the edge, you know, in terms of like, you know, what she can and can't do. And then
00:27:41
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You know, knowing Mace Windu, knowing Mace Windu, I know that he wouldn't have let her go to the, you know, the Senate council chambers or Palpatine's office to stop this whole thing from happening, right? You know, and I don't know how well Ahsoka would have handed, you know, I mean, she probably would have defended her best against Palpatine. But I feel like, could you imagine if it had been Ahsoka?
00:28:04
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an Anakin that showed up. I don't think Palpatine could have convinced Ahsoka of the Dark Side. I don't know. But I think Anakin being so vulnerable, it would have been the greatest three-way battle ever, number one. But I don't know.
00:28:20
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I think they're both vulnerable. They're both products of the Jedi's hubris that they literally wasn't for Darth Sidious being such a good master manipulator. And then the Jedi being so arrogant and confused. And obviously, I don't know. I know that sounds crazy, but like.
00:28:40
Speaker
You never know. I mean, what if Anakin got killed somehow and then Ahsoka's the next one, the next step, because she's the easiest to maybe convince, you know, because she did almost join Maul, except for the fact that he wanted to go kill Anakin, you know, there at the end.
00:28:56
Speaker
That's a good point. Yeah. And I know when in this scenario is, is Anakin at risk of being killed by Ahsoka or Maul? You know what I mean? Right. It's just a confused situation that then exploits Anakin's weakness, you know? So it's a little weird, but.
00:29:13
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I think Ahsoga could have, because obviously in the Mortis arc, you see that her character is so pure. I mean, she is the light side incarnate, really, when you bring a Mortis, but like, I don't know. I mean, she has that moment where she gets possessed by the dark side and it could be a foreshadowing. I don't know. I know it's crazy, but it could have been interesting.
00:29:32
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Yeah, that would have been a very interesting if she did, like if maybe her aunt can maybe follow Palpatine for some reason. Like you're saying that you're saying like they were kind of both, especially if she stays even after the trial, like she does, she was already
00:29:48
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Like we've been saying, she was already kind of like leery of what the council is doing. So, oh, that's, yeah, that's an interesting one. She believed has been taken from, not even taken from her, has made her question who she is and what she stands for. And then to, I don't know, maybe be offered. I don't know. It's interesting.
00:30:08
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I've been very, I've felt a kinship. This is going to sound weird. I felt a kinship with Ahsoka Tano recently. Like I felt like almost just so like with the journey that she goes on with kind of her, her faith, right? Like her faith, like she almost loses her faith in the Jedi and the force and stuff. But on her journey, she learns this whole, you know, basically like,
00:30:34
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You know, she talks about in the siege of Mandalore like this is what the Jedi I know what the Jedi should be like what the Jedi should just be good peacekeeper like not like a Military force for the government or like people who work under the government. They should just be these people who help people who need help
00:30:52
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and stuff like that and I kind of really identify with kind of that coming from like a background of faith and stuff like that or you know just kind of as you grow you get doubts and then you kind of come back from it and I'm getting a little real with you guys right now so don't worry the funny stuff's coming. Just my personal journey recently has really been kind of like Ahsoka and to me what I see in Ahsoka
00:31:18
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is what if Anakin made the right choices with his disillusionment with the Jedi?
00:31:24
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What if he, instead of going out and marrying Padme, said, look, we can't do that right now just because of the way the structure of all this is and just left the order for her maybe or something. You know what I mean? Instead of trying to have his cake and eat it too, you know, like stand for what he believes in instead of keeping it in because I've been anakin' in that, but I've kept stuff in and not said anything. And then it just festers. That's all it does.
00:31:50
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You can't let it stay in there. And so anyway, that's just my, there you go. That's my personal theology of Ahsoka Tano. So there you go. I like it. And Scotty, I don't think, I think we might've said on our podcast, but I think that I've given the spot of the most Jedi to ever, the most Jedi to ever Jedi.
00:32:08
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to Ahsoka over Qui-Gon now. I mean, I think Qui-Gon and Ahsoka would have gotten along really well. That's an interesting one. That wasn't one of my wittest, but we can talk about that if you want to. I'm all about some Ahsoka.
00:32:23
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All right, what's your second one, though, Jerry? Go ahead. What else you got? I'm trying to say because I've got another Clone Wars one and then I got a sequel trilogy era one. So which way would you guys like to go? Let's go sequel. Yeah. Yeah. OK, this one's this one's simple, but interesting. What if Luke actually went to create? Oh, what if he actually showed up? How different would it be?
00:32:47
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And what would have the last Jedi been? And what would I'm not I'm not trying to start a whole debate on shouldn't have been on screen. I know we're all like shell shocked from all that stuff. But I thought this that just really struck me as intriguing. Like, would would it have made a difference to Ben?
00:33:07
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Would Ben have tried harder to kill him?
Luke's Physical Appearance on Crait
00:33:09
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Would Luke have had to like Obi-Wan in the desert with Maul? The way Ben was so angry there, that would have almost been one of those. Would he have had to do the classic Samurai, just boom, boom, three moves?
00:33:23
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and mercy killing, which again, now I'm a Ben Demptionist. I am totally for him and Ray having a relationship, Ray low, all that kind of stuff. You know, I'm not trying to say any of that. Look at me. I'm trying to put the caveats and stuff. Anyway.
00:33:40
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I don't want Ben to die, but I'm like, well, what would have that is interesting, right? Like, what would have happened? And then Luke just continues or would have would Luke have been I don't know, would he have gotten like sacrificed himself for them to leave? Actually, I don't know. What do you guys think? Oh, I kind of go down the line for me. If you if you go kind of like we're saying with Obi-Wan in A New Hope and how that whole fight went down and how he kind of sacrificed himself.
00:34:07
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for the greater good. So Luke could get away, so they could get away and hope still remain. I feel like that's what Luke might do. I feel like he would sacrifice himself somehow some way to keep the resistance alive, keep hope alive with Rey.
00:34:26
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And maybe try, like again, maybe try to teach Ben something like, like he told him, you should strike me down in anger, but I'm still going to be with you. Right. And that might even resonate with Ben more if he actually did it instead of figuring out that was just a hologram of his uncle.
00:34:42
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I don't know. That's right. Interesting. That is crazy. And I'm not against I'm not saying, well, Luke should have gone, by the way, because I that's just like one of my favorite moments in all of Star Wars now. Like I just I love that moment where he's not there at all. Anyway, good stuff. Good stuff. Andrea, what do you think?
00:35:01
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Well, I love the fact that he's not there because I mean, if you want to talk about Jedi doing the most Jedi thing possible, that's one of them right there is to not to resort to violence, to come to some sort of like the resolution that you need. I mean, that's exactly what he was doing in that moment.
00:35:21
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So to think that he would have actually went there and maybe did the, you know, like you said, the three samurai chop and been done with Kylo Renner, Ben Solo, it's just not in Luke Skywalker's blood. It just is not.
00:35:36
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So it's why he couldn't do it back when he was he didn't mean to what he did like back in the hut, right? Yeah. Yeah. And even like I think of, you know, like Return of the Jedi, him throwing off the lightsaber and telling the Emperor, no, it looks showing up to actually defeat the First Order with it by himself is just wasn't in the cards for me. Right.
00:36:00
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If he would have showed up on it, even if he would have been physically there, it still would have continued to be the same sacrifice that he did, you know, either through the forest or physically. So if he shows up, he's still toast. Yeah. Yeah. I agree with that. It's interesting because, well, from, I'm going to approach it from a little bit of a curve perspective, because I think since Luke was exerting so much force power and force power, but
00:36:28
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He was just a Dodge commercial. What's going on? Exactly. Exactly. In the force so much. I don't think he could have done what I'm about to say. Now, if he was there, I almost feel like he could have made some sort of force field around himself whenever he was getting blasted by, you know, the the the what's the name of it? So I can see that.
00:36:53
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I mean, if you think about Kingman, he kind of did that with the fire in a way, like he kind of. Good point. So he does that. But I think how Luke would approach it, it would still be in a way like Obi-Wan did to be a distraction for everyone there. And so the resistance can escape.
00:37:14
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You gotta think about it this way. If he was there, I think he would utilize the force in a much different way. I almost think that Luke, in some capacity, could have not dismembered, but disarmed Kylo Ren, and got away with his lightsaber, and almost had a talking to rather than any sort of samurai-esque duel, which would be great, don't get me wrong. I think it's still, and he probably still would do it, and you know what he would have too, he'd have the green saber, and that would have been sick. Also, so.
00:37:44
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I almost think Luke would have. Oh, it would have been great. He would have just like come. He might even he honestly might have dismembered him. I will. He might have. I don't know what Luke cut off Ben Solo's arm. That'd be interesting. Maybe just as a lesson, you know, that would have made that that would have made the old school fanboys happy. Right. Well, all right. Well, you lost a limb in the second one. Yeah. What would it be?
00:38:08
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Andrew brings up a good point because Luke is still Luke in this scenario. He's still going to handle things the way Luke would have normally handled it, but being there physically would have been very interesting because I really do think it would have been way more of a talking to than a, Ben, I failed you, I'm sorry, whatever he says.
00:38:31
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I'm sure you are. That's it. So like, I don't know. I think I think he would have shown more force powers. And this is on the super EU, but he probably would have like, you know, maybe deflected one of those blaster bullets back at the other Walker, you know, and maybe destroyed it. I mean, like if I mean, obviously, Luke has enough ability in the force to literally conjure himself up in a completely different place. And I don't know. It's insane. But careful, careful, Scotty.
00:39:01
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Careful. You were both so correct because he would have he still would have been Luke. That's what's so cool about what he did and why and now I'm like going back on it like I don't want this. It would be an interesting what if it's interesting but I love what he does because he he stays true to his ideals and still protects people. That is what being a Jedi is. You've got
00:39:28
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Qui Gun Jin, Ahsoka Tano, Luke Skywalker. All on that playing field, man, to me. Oh, yeah. Yeah, that's a good point. It's a really good point.
00:39:37
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What's your prequels one or are you? Oh, you said Clone Wars, Jerry. What's your Clone Wars one? Yeah. Let me see here. Let me get a thing. I was searching. Those are all terrain mega caliber six walkers. Scotty, I'm going to make sure that was an ATM six with a proper acronym. I mean, it's right here on the is all terrain mega caliber six, which just sounds like a Dodge commercial. This is the.
00:40:04
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This is like the heat. I get like text from in the middle of the night of Jerry's like, it's actually this. I mean, it's all very mean and insulting stuff. I mean, I hate it, but yeah, you know, whatever. So, yeah. OK, so my my third scenario is it's prequel era. It's more it is again, it's more Clone Wars. Just there was a lot of interesting stuff brought up in Clone Wars that could have
00:40:33
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could have definitely changed the way that the rest of the films went. I mean, again, if they had made them in order or whatever, you know. But, and Scotty brought up when we were talking about Ahsoka, Mortis. What if the sun actually left Mortis? How would that have went down? Would it have been just kind of like a
00:40:55
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a big, like, judgment day, doomsday scenario, would he just have, like, gone, like, I don't know, I guess the, the, this is dumb, this is really comic book-y, but it's been like, like Galactus or Thanos, like, in Star Wars, just going through there, like.
00:41:14
Speaker
You know, like, ah, I'm all powerful now and I can just do whatever I want. Like, I don't know what it would have they have been able to stop him, I guess. And I guess that would mean that Anakin would have been still like or Anakin Anasoko, however, he escapes. They could have either either he killed them and got away or stranded them or Anakin came with them, you know, like all knowing the future, what it was going to be like. I don't know. How would that have gone down for you guys, do you think?
00:41:41
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Oh man, that's an interesting one because again, the implications, I mean, obviously the sun wasn't, he was in the dark side, but was he really a Sith though? So like, what would have been his purpose? Like, we know that Palpatine was a Sith and he wanted to rule the galaxy and all that stuff.
00:42:02
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I wonder what the son would have been doing. Like you're saying, would he just been going after certain people or just wreaking, like you're saying wreaking havoc? I kind of go with that. Like he just wreaks havoc all over the galaxy with no remorse of whatever he's doing. And so that leads me to think of, man, what if him and Palpatine
00:42:23
Speaker
Like that's immediately where I went to. Yeah. Interesting confrontation, those two. You know, I kind of think that that scenario goes, he just basically grabs Palpatine and squeezes his head. I don't know. I don't know because Palpatine is highly he's crafty. But I just think that would be such a video game moment of just like, you know, true. True.
00:42:50
Speaker
It's like just grab him, go, I'm I'm the guy now. Andrew, what do you think? I think it would have been awesome. I don't think Anakin would have like went with them, even though it was very clear in the mortis arc that Anakin was destined to go to the dark side. I feel like it would have made Anakin
00:43:11
Speaker
actually turn more towards the light because Anakin always wants to be he wants to be a hero hands down until he was completely manipulated by Palpatine. Anakin was about winning and being a hero and saving the people that he loved. So if he still had Obi, you know, if he was still fighting for Obi-Wan Ahsoka and Padme and there was a bad, bad, bad guy out there wreaking havoc.
00:43:40
Speaker
Anakin's chosen one status would have came up a whole lot quicker and would have been a lot more prevalent in the entire galaxy. I think it would have been like a showdown. It would have been like doomsday and Superman. That's how I see it. Interesting. I like that. Or to give a Marvel reference, even Tony Stark and Thanos there, right? Yeah, absolutely. Yeah. But even more what you were saying. Yeah. Yeah. That's
00:44:09
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man. Yeah. And I guess I was thinking that I forget I got to rewatch that arc and stuff, but I was thinking he would. I don't think he would go willingly with them. If I was worrying if he was or even Ahsoka were still under his spell, like would they have gone? But I I like that, like the thought of.
00:44:27
Speaker
Anakin, because he is the he he's Palpatine used his own his own weakness. The guy's weakness was that he loved too much. Yeah. It's like, you know, Michael Scott says that, but Anakin really lived it, you know, that was his weakness. And so, yeah, yeah, I like that. I like that a lot. He definitely would have, I think, stepped up to the challenge. Scotty, what are you thinking, Bill? Well, you know,
00:44:52
Speaker
When you really kind of go down to it, the brother, right? That was his name. Am I correct on that? Yeah. The son. I say the brother. I don't know why I thought he calls him like the daughter. Daughter calls him brother brother. Yeah. But, um, you know, it's almost a weird situation because.
00:45:12
Speaker
he probably would have more caused more havoc, you know? Um, but I don't know what he, that's a weird one. I honestly don't really have a strong opinion on, I haven't watched them where his Arkham since like 2016. So I really need to kind of go back on it. Like get on that. I do. I had a strong arc. Don't get me wrong, but like,
00:45:34
Speaker
I don't know. It's it's dense. It's dense. It's dense. And that character pretty much we almost get that character manifested in a mall in a weird way. Not exactly. But like mall kind of a kind of a weird motif that you can kind of the broken dark person who just thinks his only option is to be dominated everything before someone else does and gets rid of him. Right. Yep. That's a small in a nutshell. He feels like he has to do that.
00:46:02
Speaker
Because that's all he knows. Sorry, we're about to go down a mall road. So that's all I have to say is I see a lot of I see a lot of, you know, I see a lot of mall in him or a lot of, you know, the brother within mom. So I don't know. I don't know. See, I almost see it. Am I wrong in seeing the sun is almost a Loki like character, maybe a little darker than he is.
00:46:25
Speaker
But like he has that he wants to do things for his own benefit, but he has like he has a little bit of compassion. Yeah, it's like empathy. Yeah, like he's not like that's what Palpatine is not like that, like Palpatine thinks that all that's weakness. Here's this guy who's like steeped in the dark side, but still are not even a guy like these God people, whatever they are, whatever they are, man who
00:46:52
Speaker
who, I don't know, it seems like he feels sorry for them and like, hey, I know what you're going to become or whatever. I'm going to use you for my own thing, but also maybe, I don't know, maybe we can help each other. I don't know. I don't know. Very well. Yeah, that is very well. It's a really good. It would have been an interesting interaction, just having him out and seeing what would have happened with that. Yeah, that would have been a really good one. That's a really good one.
00:47:19
Speaker
All right, Andrea, what's, uh, I know you got one and I actually really like it. What's yours? I only have one guys. Okay. All right. What if Leah would have went to Tatooine and Luke would have went with Baylor Ghana. Oh my. That's good. Mmm.
00:47:43
Speaker
Personally, I think that, I don't know, could you imagine like Leia like whining over having to get power converters at the Tashi station? I mean, I think she would have just like started her own stage or like made her own. I don't know.
00:48:02
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She says she would have I think she really would have excelled as a moisture farmer. I think that or I think maybe she even would have got into the Academy because Luke was a little passive about it and, you know, didn't really hold his ground. But I don't know. What do you guys think?
00:48:19
Speaker
Man, that's I I think she would yeah, she would have excelled like she would have been the best at moisture farming and then tried to do other things to make it easier for other people and I think she probably would have like Started like she probably became like a local politician almost if I just feel like that's in her cards Yeah, like get into something like that. Like she almost she probably would have stopped all the the you know racism speciesism against the Tusken Raiders like, you know, I
00:48:47
Speaker
Don't call them sand people and stuff like that, Uncle Owen. That's not very progressive, okay? That's not nice. They were here first. I just feel like she would have really advocated for people and stuff like that. Not that Luke, you know what I mean? Luke's got his blinders on, right? He's a dreamer.
00:49:09
Speaker
Yeah, he's total dreamer. She would have cleaned up. Yeah. She would have cleaned up. Oh, I'm sorry. She would have cleaned up wisely. Like no longer. Yeah. Could Kenobi say that it was the hive of like scum and and all of that because they would have had it all cleaned up. Yeah. He would have just looked at her if that scenario still happened and gone. Good job.
00:49:30
Speaker
I didn't even mean to, but that's always calling back to Attack of the Clones. I mean it this time. Yeah, you did a good job, kid. Looks nice. It's shinier. Now, this is interesting because would, this might sound kind of bad, but would Leia have listened to Obi-Wan, you know, as well as Luke did, because Luke's pretty gullible and Luke is a dreamer, whereas Leia is a doer.
00:49:58
Speaker
Would Leia have gotten off that planet sooner? Would Obi-Wan would have been given the runaround? Like, oh my God, this person is way more difficult than what I expected, you know? Like, it's interesting. I don't know. What do you all think? You know, honestly, Leia would have already known who the Jedi were or about the Jedi. And no, like, he's like, yeah, I was once a Jedi. Oh, yeah, that we fought in the Clone Wars like that. And Obi-Wan just sit there like.
00:50:25
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You want to hear about it? I can tell you some stories like, no, no, I've read it. I've read it. I read all the history. We're good. That is a great idea, Andrea. Man.
00:50:37
Speaker
I feel like it's very interesting because I mean, does that change anything? Does Luke, does Luke still become the one that is going to be trained down the line? Is he the one that still goes to Dagobah and all that stuff? Does Leia, or does that all go fall down on Leia? Because as we know in the Certain Point of View book, no one wanted Leia. So does that really change who becomes who? I mean, obviously, I don't see Luke becoming a senator or anything like that.
00:51:08
Speaker
He probably would have joined the Imperial Academy and kind of been like a man on the inside there. I almost see it coming like a Poe Dameron type, but more with like tension for the Force, you know, maybe. All right. But yeah, that's an interesting idea.
Leia's Tatooine Upbringing
00:51:22
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If Leia is the one that goes to Tatooine and everything kind of revolves around her, kind of like Rey-ish, if you kind of want to. That's right. Yeah.
00:51:32
Speaker
Wow. Very confident, very like sure of herself. Never thought about that, right? It's kind of like if Leia were to be on Tatooine in a weird way. Yeah, in a very, in a very weird way, because I think she is. Yeah. I mean, I think you could, you could kind of compare and contrast those two, but yeah, very interesting idea though, Andrea, because again, that man, that would, that would look and feel different if Leia is on Tatooine, Luke is on
00:51:57
Speaker
you know, Alderaan being groomed to whatever we like, we don't even know. Would he be a senator or would he just kind of just grow up and, you know, follow his follow Bail's footsteps? Very interesting concept. That's a very interesting concept. I like that. I like that a lot. Stories, all of them. Now I want it to happen. All right. So I got two and they're they're around animated characters.
Ezra's Possible Turn to the Dark Side
00:52:26
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So my first one is Ezra, Ezra Bridger. I've been rewatching Rebels. I love that show so much because of what it does. It ties in the prequels in the original trilogy so well. And I love Ezra's character. I really do. But for me, you know,
00:52:47
Speaker
At the end of season two, heading into season three, you I felt that maybe he was going to go dark for a little bit, you know, follow that dark path. He obviously and he didn't do that, obviously. But man, here my what if scenario is what if Ezra does kind of go down a dark path for like a season, maybe even a season a half?
00:53:08
Speaker
And obviously, Kanan maybe has to come and save him somehow or whatever, but like, what if he follows Maul? What if he becomes Maul's apprentice? Like, man, to me, that just changes rebels, first of all, and maybe within the galaxy, because then Maul has somebody that he always wanted an apprentice. You know, we know he wanted Ahsoka as an apprentice.
00:53:31
Speaker
Now he has, you know, he would have got Ezra as an apprentice and maybe he, his grand plan of kind of just taking out his enemies would have, would have happened. What do you guys think?
00:53:43
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Man, I like that because that was honestly where we all thought season three was going, right? This is pretty much. Yeah. Like from the beginning, like that first episode, he does some really dark stuff. Yeah, with the AT ad ad walker. Yeah. Yeah. Just like makes the guy walk. That was so the darkest thing we've almost ever seen a character do not.
00:54:10
Speaker
And then he was so nonchalant about it, though, too, on Sabine. I remember that episode, because it's one of my favorites. And Sabine was like, who talked to that? He was like, no one. I was like, oh, my god. Oh, yeah. Like, Decana didn't teach you that. He did it. He almost says it like a horror movie villain.
00:54:26
Speaker
Yeah. You know, expect that after it, you know. Yeah. Oh, man. That would be very interesting, though, because then that whole season is what it's that's when Canaan is dealing with the Bindu, correct? Like trying. He's trying to get that point. Right. Yeah. Trying to get connected with how he can connect with Ezra again and get his confidence back.
00:54:51
Speaker
Can you imagine the insurmountable obstacle of, I've got to not only just be there for this kid, but pull him back from the dark side and from all and stuff like, oh man, crazy. I don't know. What do you, what do you, Andrea, Scotty, what do you guys think?
00:55:06
Speaker
I mean, I absolutely think that, like you said, it was something that was a huge possibility in all of our minds while watching that show. I feel like Kanan was up for the challenge if he had to pull Ezra out of the dark side.
00:55:25
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like right there considering that he might have to do it with him hearing Maul's voice and all of that. I would have loved to see it. I would have loved to see a little extra season. I don't think it would have been filler. I think it would have been some great character development to see Azir fall to the dark side, Kanan having to save him, him redeeming himself, what kind of things would have happened, who knows what Maul would have had him do. I think it would have been excellent to see
00:55:56
Speaker
So I think, you know, Andrea is right. I think it'd be really cool to see because, um, it would have been the first time really, besides Anakin that we've, we get it. Like we truly get someone, one of the docs that are flirting with him and like being fully tempted by it because Anakin does it, but he gets so seduced by that. He like becomes so a part of the dark side, you know?
00:56:19
Speaker
He like manifest it to where there's no return essentially until Luke saves him. But that's interesting because he would have, he would have, you know, he's got no parental guidance technically. I mean, his parents are gone. But like, you can tell he struggled with Cain in those first two seasons. He didn't he didn't he didn't know if he liked that dude or not.
00:56:37
Speaker
Like really, it's down to its core. And, you know, even at the very end, the very end of Ezra's journey as we know it in terms of a story, even Palpatine was like, I can give you all you want. And for a second, he's like.
00:56:53
Speaker
about to go through the portal and he's like, no, I can't do this. I gotta save my friend. So maybe, maybe, yeah, I wonder. I'm kind of glad we didn't get it, but I would have loved to have seen it more fleshed out. You know, it felt like it was a little abandoned by the end of season four. And we, you never know, we might get them the rebel sequel, you know, show and we might really get something very interesting out of that.
00:57:17
Speaker
Yeah, that's true. I just would have loved to see him in kind of that whole dynamic of, you know, Canaan trying to bring him back. And then even if he does, you know, if he does come back, like, what does that do with the, with the whole ghost crew? How does Sabine feel? How does Zeb feel? How does Hera feel about, you know,
00:57:35
Speaker
the kid that they trusted goes to the dark side, but they obviously bring them back. I mean, that trust has got to be there. So it's just been a minute. It would have been a very interesting storyline, I think, if he would have went down the dark path for even a
Ventress Surviving and Killing Dooku
00:57:50
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little bit more. Because like you said, we see it early on in season three, like the first two episodes. And after that, it's kind of goes away for sure. But man, I would have loved it. I think that just would have been a very cool storyline for not only
00:58:05
Speaker
you know, Azra but Kainan. Yeah. You know, to have see what Kainan to go through, you know, he loses a sight, and then to lose his padawan, man, that would have been a that would have been a heavy, heavy, heavy, heavy hit for Kainan, I think. Oh, yeah. Very interesting to see.
00:58:21
Speaker
All right, so my last one is, again, another animated character, Asajj Ventress. Your favorite. She is my favorite. She is one of my favorites. So obviously we know through Dark Disciple that obviously she sacrifices herself for... Oh God, I'm blanking his name now. Quinlan Voss. Quinlan Voss. Thank you. Quinlan Voss.
00:58:43
Speaker
Dryden Voss? No, no, no. Dryden? But what if, what if she doesn't die? I would have loved to know what she would have done. Like, if in, if, if she's the one that actually, her and Voss are the ones that actually defeat Dooku, and it's not Anakin, it's not Obi-Wan at the beginning of The Revenge of the Sith.
00:59:05
Speaker
I see that changes that that changes that whole thing. But in in Dark Disciple, what if those two, especially Asajj, is the one that kills Dooku and changes the kind of the whole landscape of her and everybody else's path like does she does she.
00:59:24
Speaker
Does she still kind of stick with the whole I'm a bounty hunter? Does she maybe say, hey, maybe I am better on the good side and maybe becomes kind of like a Jedi, not accomplice, but, you know, kind of somebody that works with them exclusively? Like that's where my mind goes. What do you guys think, Jerry?
00:59:51
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It's an interesting one. It's an interesting one. This is a thinker because you've got to think, what are the consequences of, so you're saying she survives and her embossed defeat Dooku, right? Yes, she's the one because that was her whole thing. Obviously we know through Clone Wars, she wanted to destroy him. What if she does?
01:00:09
Speaker
Oh man, does that take away Palpatine's like, and we know Palpatine, Palpatine has plan upon plan upon plan. Does that take away a big token that he has on Anakin to use like to kind of help push him farther to the edge?
01:00:28
Speaker
I mean, I know there's other people, there's other things that Anakin does. Like, you know, we've seen he kills Trench in Clone Wars very viciously or very, you know, without mercy, which you can't, I don't know, never mind. I was going to say, you can almost argue that, like, that that guy might have been beyond mercy or is anyone beyond mercy. I'm getting too existential.
01:00:53
Speaker
But there could have been other maybe pawns for Palpatine to use, but it's kind of a big one because that's a big thing at the beginning of Revenge of the Sith. And it's a big thing even in the Clone Wars, whenever Obi-Wan tells Ahsoka and Rex and them that Anakin killed Count Dooku and stuff, it's like, whoa, what? Really? Whoa, okay.
01:01:19
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Yeah, man, I don't know. It would have been really cool though to see Asajj still be around. She had kind of gone off, was doing her own thing, right? During the Clone Wars and all that. Yeah. So it would have been cool, like, you know, parallel universe. And, you know, if all this was made before Empire and stuff, or if, you know, George was doing even more special edition, Scotty, Scotty, calm down, calm down. It's okay.
01:01:46
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I think if they put like, you know, someone in like that mask, like a very slender like, you know, figure in like that one little mask that she wears as a bounty hunter and stuff, whenever Vader is tasking all of like Boba and all them to go hunt down the Millennium Falcon. Think about just a masked, you know, slender figure in the background, just like all of us would go, you don't have to say anything, all of us would go, that's Asajj.
01:02:14
Speaker
You know, interesting. Well, you know, it's one of these things because like you got a size of interest who's probably one of the best characters ever in Star Wars in terms of like what she becomes inevitably the end. Um, if she still has her inevitable turn, I guess you could say, um, I wonder because
01:02:36
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She would have made a great companion to Ahsoka because Ahsoka is a little bit more, um, a little bit more relaxed, the Jedi in terms of what she does and what she believes. And she said she has very strong morals, but you know, she's not like, she's the most Jedi Jedi because she's not the failing Jedi of the council. You know what I mean? So, right. So Asajj Ventress is not technically a Sith either. So she's the most not Sif to not Sif.
01:03:03
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Ever. It's interesting because she she realizes, you know, that she's just a pawn in the game and and mall also realizes this. So I don't know. I think I think I know. I know. I know. I know. No, I'm going to say it.
01:03:21
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I'm sorry. They had teamed up. And that would be interesting. But that's just me. I was going to say, what if it's almost like like Asajj is the Ahsoka to malls. And again, you go. It's like, yes, she makes she finds out she's a pawn and just is like, no, I'm done. I'm out. And whereas, you know, malls, I keep on calling mannequin is like, no, I got to I'm going to make this giant underworld army to take out my master. Exactly.
01:03:51
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Wow. You just blew my mind, Scott. I love it. I don't think Asajj would have stayed dark side user. I just don't. I think once she fell in love with Quinlan Boss, it changed her.
01:04:07
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Because even when, towards the end of Dark Disciple, when she still feels the dark side in Quinlan, she wants nothing to do with him. She just is done with that. So I like the idea of what Scottie said. Like what if she like teamed up with Ahsoka and that was like some sort of like, I don't know, just like, I can't even think of a cool duo right now.
01:04:37
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I mean you get a tease of it you get a tease of it whenever yeah you know you sort of see it because Asajj has such a she has such a heart you know and really even when she was the dark side user
01:04:52
Speaker
She was really just trying to please Dooku and she had gone through a lot by losing her master and the rejection of the Jedi and all of that stuff. And when she found love and loss, it completely changed her. I do not think she ever would have teamed up with Maul. I don't even know if she truly would have went after, would have wanted to kill Dooku.
01:05:14
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some of those conversations that she was having with the Jedi and dark disciple, man, I would have loved to see her turn more into that, like becoming like this affiliate with the Jedi. That would have been dope. I would have loved to see her, you know, doing side missions for them, giving Mace Windu the business, having great conversations with Yoda. I mean, that's where I would want her to be is, you know, just staying in between that line of
01:05:42
Speaker
Uh, just being her own, her own person. I love that chick. She's dope. She's awesome. Good answer though. I kind of liked that idea though, of her kind of being, like I said, like affiliated with the Jedi in a way. And the Jedi, like you're saying, but she helps them. And who knows who knows if she may be again, kind of like you were saying, Andrea, her, you know, when her and Quinlan got together, that did really change her for the better.
01:06:10
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And I think that would have continued on. I really do. I think that would have been you done if she would have if she would have lived. So interesting, though. Interesting stuff to think about for sure. For sure. Man, guys, this has been such a good what if what? Oh, my God. Lucasfilm, he's the higher all of us. I mean, at least Marvel Comics, right? Like we got story ideas for you guys. Come on. Yeah.
01:06:37
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I'm here. We're all right here. But yeah, first of all, Scotty, Jerry, thank you so much for coming on and having some fun with us today. Always. Yeah, thank you. Thank you so much for having us on. Yeah, it was this was a lot of fun. We got to do it. Do it again for sure. Watch you guys tell everybody where to find you guys at. What and all that stuff. Give them give them the download of the Bombad cast. Jerry.
01:07:04
Speaker
All right. You guys, you can find us just pretty much anything you can type words into on a computer or whatever. Maybe not a calculator. I don't know. It's hard to do that these days.
01:07:20
Speaker
Just type in Bombadcast, you can find us. And you also can go follow our new network page with... We are proud members now of the Beyond the Blast Doors Network. And so you can follow that on Twitter and see all the stuff that us and our fellow
01:07:43
Speaker
podcast show network people things. What do you say? Our fellow networkites. All those fun people over there are a little beyond the blast doors family. So yeah, yeah, you can go check out our stuff there.
01:07:59
Speaker
Yeah. Definitely. Yeah. Follow them guys to be on the blast doors network. It's a good place. A lot of good podcasts over there. I'll see you with the bomb bad boys. So a hundred percent. Go follow them as well. Again, Scotty, Jerry, you guys are awesome. Thank you for coming on the show. Yeah. Thanks guys. So much fun. So much fun. I had a blast. Man, anytime in the universe. And we are talking about, no, I'm talking about me and Jerry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry.
01:08:25
Speaker
I'm just kidding. GAL is short for GAL bladder. Like I have my GAL bladder removed. So that's what he's referring to. I removed it. It was awesome. It was really cool. It's like one of those faith healings where the guy sticks his hand in, but there's no word. It was really sweet. Callie Ma. Callie Ma. Oh my gosh. The Temple of Boom. Yes.
01:08:51
Speaker
Anyway, no, seriously, we got to do this again soon because it does feel like our podcasts have a bit like we're like a family shows. You know what I mean? Like we're to get like we have been in this together. It's a Potter and family, man. That's that's our hashtags for real. So guys and also also good to be on a show with fellow Michiganders. So yeah, you got that.
01:09:13
Speaker
Alright guys, well, thanks again for listening to our show. Hope you guys enjoyed this really fun discussion we had with Scott and Scotty and Jerry You guys can follow us the galactic podcast on Twitter at the galactic pod You can follow us on Apple Pod Google Play Spotify Podbean and most importantly we are on the red five network.com you go to that website
01:09:36
Speaker
Check out all the other podcasts on there. A lot of good stuff just like Beyond the Blast stores as well. So a lot of podcasts to enjoy Star Wars-wise. So check them out as well. You can follow me, Lauren Romo, at LoRoNose. You can follow me, Andrea Guti Erez, at r2d2step on Twitter. And may that force be with you guys. Always. Always.