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Unpopular Opinions 101

S2 E10 ยท The Bussy Next Time
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The gang talk opinions, popular and unpopular.

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Opening and Introductions

00:00:00
Speaker
One. Well, hello. Hello. Hello. Okay. Wait, was that a good RuPaul? Oh, I don't know. Let's do it again. Let's do it again. Let's do it again. Neither of you have seen RuPaul's Drag Race. No. Oh yeah. Yeah. I have, but I mainly, I mainly memorized lip sync for your life. So sorry. Y'all have a moment. Go ahead.
00:00:28
Speaker
Okay, no, no, no, no, do it again. Do it again. I feel like I, okay. Do it again from the top.
00:00:36
Speaker
Make it drop, make it drop. That's something else. For some, yes. Right? Oh my god. Can I talk? OK. When Ru walks into the work room, right? And all the girls are waiting for him. And they be waiting for Ru to come in. And Ru be like, hello, hello, hello. And then the girls be like, oh my god. Oh, yes. Yes, yes, yes. Because we'll be at the top of the stud. We'll all be doing their fashion thing. And everyone turns around.
00:01:03
Speaker
didn't hear you walking towards the door with your click clicks on. Right, because every episode she got a, she got a, she got a, a little, she got a, a shoe to make a noise. Every, every episode she got a shoe to make a noise. And they'd be like, did it hear you coming? Sorry, the teacher walking down the hallway talking about didn't hear you coming. I'm dead. Okay, well now that was ruined. No, no, no, we, we recovered.
00:01:28
Speaker
I wouldn't say that, but I love that you believe that and I see that for us. I love that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, how is everybody? Hi. Howdy. Hola. Oh, are we introducing ourselves or are we just, you know? Yeah, I was waiting for, you know, because I spoke the first minute and a half. I thought, other people might want to speak. Hey, yo, how you doing? It's Brio. I'm here. I'm just here. That's all I got. Put the baby down, Bronx.
00:01:59
Speaker
Okay. A regular, regular, regular girl from the Bronx. Why do you say it like that? I feel like what's really funny is that we're talking about is that we're popular or we're not.
00:02:17
Speaker
I feel like we're talking about, we got fans who want to know where we live at, and don't know if I listen to this, but 10 people. It doesn't matter, because when this is archived, it's one of those things where they're not going to give you your flowers when it's happening. It's one of those things when we talk about what we did in our younger years, in 20 years, and this is in an audio series. How long were you on there? We're going to be like, girl, we were on there for seven years. In the seventh year, we just got 1,000 listeners.
00:02:45
Speaker
And we were like, well, girl, we're done. So this was cute. We're out. No, we're going to have this really cool techy young person who's really going to lock this whole thing in for us. So it's not Aaron. And Aaron, if you heard that. No, no, no, no.
00:03:02
Speaker
I'm throwing zero shade to Erin. I'm not switching it up. Erin, Shelly just said that you are not that girl. No, I did not! This is awesome. Okay, let's loop back to about four episodes consecutively that I was saying. Hey, Erin. Oh my gosh, hey. Oh my gosh, I hope you're doing well.
00:03:21
Speaker
This is so much energy in the studio. It is. For all the listeners, they're like, okay, they're consistent. Every episode we start a real rowdy. It's a lot of neck. It's a lot of neck. It's a lot of neck to quita. It's a lot of neck to quita.
00:03:46
Speaker
You want to introduce? Yeah. Yes. Okay. So I'm excited because the topic today is unpopular opinions.

Unpopular Opinions: Lighthearted and Contentious

00:03:53
Speaker
I'm not prepared. So I hope you have questions. Why? All you had to do was come with unpopular opinions. There was no need for questions because you could have just came with unpopular opinions. Because last time when I said that folks just had to come with whatever
00:04:15
Speaker
The hell? I just said, oh, you come and share whatever. Y'all were like, oh, it's your topic. You're supposed to have questions. You were talking about reading fucking books. You know what this is? I know what this is going to be. Y'all remember when 10 seconds ago, we said we start off real rowdy and mech-y, and then we sounded like we were about to start the episode, but then all it did was give more neck and rowdy. Thank you.
00:04:41
Speaker
It was definitely getting my neck, my back. Your neck, honey, is working. Let's be clear, y'all, because I want to get into it now. I got time. OK. So Bria's been traveling. I have been busy. Shelly has been busy.
00:04:59
Speaker
We had a group chat, what, three weeks ago now, where I literally came up with this idea three weeks ago. And so I told everybody in the chat, everyone was like, yes, that'll be a cute moment. It'll be a cute moment for us to do. It'll be funny. It'll be cute. Great. Bria's showing up three weeks later. Did I not do this? No, no, no. Cause did I not do the same thing when I talked about books? I mentioned books more than one time. I wasn't trying to start a conversation with that.
00:05:28
Speaker
Y'all come with thoughts about your favorite books in media. And then y'all show up. Like, oh, Brea, you have questions. And we said, Brea, that don't make sense. And we said, Brea, that don't make sense because that means we're going to stay longer than an hour. Talking about three or four different books that none of us have all read that are the same. That is wild. That's not. That's the same. It's the same thing. It's the same. This is not the same thing. It is the same.
00:05:58
Speaker
You're reaching. It's the same thing. But anyway, y'all, you could go ahead. You could start if you want. Can I? Because apparently... Okay, so first of all, y'all, let's talk about it. Because, you know, at this point, we ain't got no topic because Bree don't know what to talk about. I can't. So we have a thing this week where we planned on finishing this episode in exactly an hour.
00:06:28
Speaker
Yes. Bria said that we have never had an episode that was less than an hour, and they are correct. We have not. So my challenge to the team was for us to do a episode an hour. I also feel some type of way, though, because it feels like the girls just came through and stomped on my idea. And I'm like, wow, the hateration and the holleration is the dancing. I am not even wearing butters right now. So what am I stomping on? I just thought you were going to have a guided, and you were going to guide the conversation.
00:06:56
Speaker
What if it's an unpopular opinion and people hold them all? What are we talking about? No, fuck that. What are we trying to say? We're seven minutes in. It's the bullshit from you. It's the bullshit from you. OK, OK, let's narrate what's happening.
00:07:15
Speaker
All of the wigs that we've had on have been ripped off. The girls are out here with wig caps on, ready to scrapple. It's giving kitty cat, kitty cat roar. If you all are wondering what the visual on set is giving, it's giving that. Okay, to steer away from this, I do have just one thing to intervene with, which is not related to this at all, but I just remembered. Yazzy is at home sick.
00:07:44
Speaker
Yassie has the flu. So I want to thank you. Yeah, Yassie had the flu. She had to miss Wakanda forever. She had to give up her ticket. Oh my gosh. I just wanted to... I hope you are a better cousin. I wanted to give Yassie a shout out. It's kind of ready to the end because I'm still going to dig in that ass. I can't believe you tried to diss me. Anyway, I was trying to stay up anyway, but you can go ahead. I'm sure I'll have something.
00:08:14
Speaker
Oh my gosh. Okay. Well, wow. Um, feeling dismissed, but it's fine. Um, so anyway, the topic was going to be unpopular opinions and I have quite a few, but I didn't want to start the episode because I feel like damn bitch you talk the most every episode. And I was like, give the other girls a chance to live and thrive. But apparently that's not the case because Bria has nothing as Shelly is. What do you do with Shelly?
00:08:57
Speaker
I'm really here for a great time and a long time. And just want to shout out all of those learners and conversational people that can't sit still and need to fidget a little bit because I'm currently cleaning up a ceramic with my hand as I interact with this experience. We love that. We love no divergence. Right. That is fair. I'm not upset about that. But it is. I have. It's beautiful. It's wonderful. I do have. I have.
00:09:07
Speaker
Oh my god! Oh my god! Oh my god! Oh my god! Oh my god! Oh my god! Oh my god! Oh my god! Oh my god! Oh my god! Oh my god!
00:09:28
Speaker
I have a thought that I feel like could be a good way to kick

Holiday Traditions and Gift Debates

00:09:31
Speaker
it off. I was gonna say, what is an unpopular opinion about the holidays that y'all have since we are in that season? Could be about the food, it could be like family time. Okay, unpopular opinion, I don't want turkey and ham twice. Wait, wait, you're both? No, they're both. I have a family that would make turkey and ham
00:09:55
Speaker
for Thanksgiving and then turn around and make turkey and ham again for Christmas. And I'd be like, why? We're awesome. My unpopular opinion is that I don't actually want turkey. I want ham only.
00:10:06
Speaker
I don't really feel like I mean, are you not smothering? Because our grandma, our grandma makes really good ham. So I don't really smothering the turkey and gravy. Are you like, fuck that? It's just not as good as him. Like I really know it's not not when the competition is there. It's giving like.
00:10:25
Speaker
When there are options and the competition is clearly winning, then just don't put it there. It's second place. Do not put it next to the ham. Don't put it next to some good chicken. Don't put it next to the other. Wow. But when the competition's not there, some turkey wings. Like, sure. Yeah. Some turkey legs. Okay. Some turkey wings. But I can do without it. Wow. I've been making, wow. Wow.
00:10:54
Speaker
Very unpopular opinion, I believe, honestly. Yes. That's fine. I'll take it. I am a person who I've been making Thanksgiving dinner for the last two years. And the turkey? Bitch. Moist, supple.
00:11:15
Speaker
She's delicious. She had a manicure and a pedicure before she went to the oven. Oh, that's fun. She's getting massages. Mama is very, I mean, very professional. Very professional. She's delicious. And at this point, I'm making homemade everything except stuffing, because I don't know. OK, I'm going to ask this because we talk about food. Have y'all ever had the thin stuffing with, like,
00:11:41
Speaker
I'm trying to explain it. I'm explaining it. Your answer is already, no, I got that. That's fine. Your answer already, though. But it's like the stuff my grandmother used to make when she was alive, and it would be like,
00:11:52
Speaker
And it was like bread. It was like thin bread, but it was stuffing of course. And it had like pieces of like meat in it. So she would come up with like sausage and like turkey neck and stuff, and she would put it in it and she would bake it. And it was like flat and thin and she would like sprinkle, like put gravy over it and you serve it with the turkey. And I'm like, I wish I knew how to make it to this. It's my favorite type of stuffing ever. And no one I know knows what I'm talking about when I talk about it. My cousin makes something like that.
00:12:19
Speaker
Our family doesn't typically put stuffing in the bird, actually. No, no, no, babe. We don't put it in the bird. That's nasty. So I thought you said it goes inside. No, no, no, no. It's outside the bird. OK. You serve it with the turkey and the gravy, and it's all drizzled with the gravy at the top. Yeah, nah. Nah, nah, nah. That's OK. I thought you were saying yes. That's OK. My cousin, which was like, I will say, was one of my top favorite stuffings I've ever had.
00:12:47
Speaker
It was a stove top stuffing, actually. And it was in a cast iron skillet, so it wasn't as deep as the other ones that go in the oven. And his was so good. I think he put sausage in his. It might have been like a turkey sausage. And then there was like peppers and onions and all these other things in it. And it was huge. But I feel like my grandma used to make hers with like
00:13:14
Speaker
um the bread like bread like actual like bread crumbs or like actual like you know bread and then and stuff and I was like okay how do you make it I'm distraught and also I could probably use I could probably also use stove tacos you know we love a good stove taco in my house as well yes yes cast iron it will do it but but we haven't we have we're not there yet so I'm trying to figure out what that would look like because I thought that would be delicious not in popular holiday opinions
00:13:49
Speaker
Oh, here's another one. Um, I enjoy. Well, I enjoy just getting money as a gift. People who say money is not a gift.
00:14:02
Speaker
Our fucking losers. Yikes. Just say your porno. Just say your porno. I think it's very, like, it's very chic. It's very, like, you know, when you just make a... What I do for my birthday and for the holidays is, like, make a Google Doc and, like, give it to people with links to the things that I want. And I just feel like, if you're not going to give me money, there it is, like, you know? When I tell you, it's wonderful.
00:14:31
Speaker
Yeah, I love it. I went straight to that link. Right. Bria will send us a link and be like, every year, this is what I want. Get what you want. Don't get what you want. That's fine. If you want to give me nothing, just send me some money and I'll buy what I want. It's the Virgo placement in me, honestly, truly. Right. Because honestly, right. There have been times where I've gotten some off the list and then there's been times where I very acutely just sent her some coin. That's right. I feel like, you know, my point is to really I don't I don't like stressing people out about what they should get me.
00:15:00
Speaker
But I do feel like there's just a lot of people who are like, I'm not gonna give you money. I can't just give you money. I said, who said that? Who said that? Who said that? Who said that? Who said that? Who? Who said that? Who? Who? Who? Who? Who said that? But if that's gonna be a problem, then I'm just like, I'm gonna give you the vibe of the sort of things I want. I would love if you get something like this.
00:15:25
Speaker
on this list or this specific or this specifically because that would be great.
00:15:38
Speaker
Okay, so I am realizing the older that I get, I'm into more sentimental gifts. Now, I will also be clear and ask people for money. If I know it's a person, I'm like, we cool, we know each other, girl. If it's something where I feel like I'm not that, it's a person that we have a relationship that goes deeper than I think a gift transaction or something, I'm like, money is fine.
00:16:01
Speaker
For folks who I feel like are just like want to get me stuff because they feel like I'll enjoy it. I actually like sentimental gifts. But I also want to be clear what acts for the money when I feel like that is really what I want.
00:16:20
Speaker
sentimental gifts again are cute but and I like them a lot but like if I'm like I want money for something specific I want money because I know that there's a thing I'm looking at and I'm eyeing and I'm like I don't want you to buy it because you might not buy you might you might buy the wrong thing or the wrong color or whatever like just let me handle it that's typically what I'm asking for money for. It's to buy or purchase something else that I've already seen that I don't want to buy myself because I feel like it should be a gift. Yes. I don't trust you to buy the gift.
00:16:45
Speaker
And I got friends and family members who you will send them something, and they will deviate every single fucking time. Oh, no. And I have an example. No substitutions. To my siblings, because I know none of them niggas listen to this. These niggas, OK, last year we had a stalking stuff for exchange. Not exchange, but the stalking stuff for situation. Four of us did it.
00:17:10
Speaker
We all wrote a list of five things we like, and we put it in on the list. We put the list together, put it in a group chat, and everybody had to buy one thing off the list. Now, my poor brother, one of them is really into dragons, and all of us bought him. Two of us bought him a chalice, like a chalice with dragon-made, like a dragon theme and base and carved chalice. Mine was better, but you know.
00:17:36
Speaker
He has two now. But for me specifically, everybody went off of, they just deviated from my list. I had five things on this list. Five of those things were amazing. They were great. They were clear and concise. Everybody bought me Avatar stuff because I had been watching Avatar, the show. But I didn't want any more cartoon shit in my very adult and cheek home.
00:18:00
Speaker
So like my brother, one brother gave me like a plushy head of like who we love, of Aang and like the DVD copies of like all the season of Avatar and then all of the Legend of Korra, which is cute, but it's not one of all the fucking, you deviated from the list. And so I'm like, what am I supposed to put this? Like there was a reason why I didn't ask for stuff like that. Cause where was I gonna put this in my home?
00:18:27
Speaker
Now it's my glass table and living room with all this other very nice expensive shit and like very like adult shit to me, very, you know, adult home with the random, you know, avatars of last ever in the bottom of the shelf. It's too much. Um, yeah, but I feel like I'm also a big fan of not deviating or unpopular opinion, I guess, to add to Brea's do not deviate from a list that people send you.
00:18:53
Speaker
Don't try to be like, oh, I know they want this more. If I did not put that on the fucking list, don't go buy that shit, because that's not what I want. And if it's not somewhere around what I said I wanted, don't go buy that either. Maybe it is because I'm a certain type of bitch. That's what it is. Y'all can take the drama this season. I feel it. My unpopular opinion around the holidays,
00:19:23
Speaker
One of them, I have two. One of them would be that you actually do have to gather and be in community on the holiday. It is an unpopular thing.
00:19:39
Speaker
Last year, I told everybody I was not leaving the house for Christmas and I stuck to it. And when everyone was like, where are you? I said in my home, like I told y'all at least seven times that I do not wish. And it was when Omarion was dancing through the street. So I said, I do not wish.
00:19:58
Speaker
to be there. I was so I love the engagement is because I thought I was like, what is it like? Am I on like touch like he was he was touching everyone, everyone in their lungs. Everyone was was being touched by the germs. Oh, so
00:20:17
Speaker
When that happened, I said, oh, no, I don't have that feeling to which I know oftentimes is like a pressure thing of like, this is the moment for us. We have to do it. And I'm just like, or also, we could have a cookout in the summer if it doesn't work out right now.
00:20:36
Speaker
the unpopular opinion that we have to gather, like literally we have to, which I was okay with. We're good, we're good. For Zoom call, honestly. Yes. And then the other one is that when you do gather, this also probably is because I am a part of a very large family, the idea that you have to get a gift for everyone that is present, not a fan.
00:21:06
Speaker
Like, if there are 25 people there, many people's opinions might be that you have to get a gift for everyone. Get a gift for everybody. Do not believe that you have to. I don't know. I feel like these people. You know, like, when you go places, they... Well, yeah, like, I feel like when we used to, like, when we would come to Grandma and Grandpa's house, I feel like there was an era where that was kind of a thing.
00:21:33
Speaker
But I feel like now that everybody's grown, we kind of just like get, I personally only get gifts for the kids and most of the time it's going to be books. Like I'm absolutely- That's the librarian. I'm solidified with being that person, especially now that, oh, I probably didn't share that I like got a new job, but I got a new job. So- I'm sure you didn't know.
00:21:58
Speaker
No, because I didn't really know because I didn't make this announcement to anybody yet, but don't drag me. Except for you guys. We're hearing the guy right here. He is very aware. I made this announcement to nobody. No, I didn't. It's cool. The only reason they know is because I was trying to figure out how, I was trying to figure out how to clean.
00:22:21
Speaker
Let me talk. This is so dramatic. I was trying to figure out how to quit. So that's the only reason why Tyrell was just there. I have been giving you a teleprompter speech on how to quit for the past year. Here's also the gag, right? Because I would argue with him, so I'm really going to get in trouble. Smelling all the tea, because actually I knew before that, I knew when you got the interview. I feel like I told everybody. And apparently not Shelly. I feel like I did it.
00:22:50
Speaker
because I know when you had round, the first round and the second round of interviews, I knew about all of that shit. Okay, fine. The point is- You know what I knew about the first round, when nobody heard you back, and when you didn't hear back from nobody, and then I was calling you, consoling you, telling you that if they really wanted you, they would hit you up, and don't let your spirit crumble off them. It is a job, the job will not make you, I was there. Oh no. But you got the second round and got the job and didn't say nothing, it's fine. Okay, the point is, the point is,
00:23:19
Speaker
Yeah, keep going, keep going. Working at a publishing, we go get the train back on the tracks, all right. And if this train goes off the track, pick it up, pick it up, pick it up, back to the scene. Okay, I can't. Okay, the point is that doing a lot of work that centers around like reading and literature, I'm always like, I'm very good for like, what book that baby need? Because I know y'all don't
00:23:45
Speaker
you know, are y'all building a library? I'm just saying, where's the library? I'm good. I also think
00:24:03
Speaker
It's not even like on a drag. It's just like, I don't know even what toys kids be playing with. Like I honestly don't know. Okay, can we talk about something? Kids besides books, because that's something I know. We frog again. Okay, I had an un... We frog was a banger, honestly. It was it. It was that girl. It was that girl. I'm not gonna hold you.
00:24:23
Speaker
First of all, I love the little bop-it and apparently there's still a makeup bop-it, and I loved playing bop-it. I was really happy with bop-it. Did y'all have like the skip-it, Johns? We had those- Skip-it, pop-it, pop-it, pop-it, pop-it, pop-it, pop-it, pop-it, pop-it, pop-it, pop-it, pop-it, pop-it, pop-it, pop-it, pop-it, pop-it, pop-it, pop-it, pop-it, pop-it, pop-it, pop-it, pop-it, pop-it, pop-it, pop-it, pop-it, pop-it, pop-it, pop-it, pop-it, pop-it, pop-it, pop-it, pop-it, pop-it, pop-it, pop-it, pop-it, pop-it,
00:24:45
Speaker
I always turn sound off if it did have a song because I don't remember that. No, I feel like I have an unpopular opinion. I have a couple that are really celebrity based though because I'm messy.
00:24:57
Speaker
This one specifically, I think ties to the holidays. Also, we're having another holiday episode next month. I know that it's something we haven't won now, but we are not. We're not. There will be another episode next month that is really holiday days. That are on my mind. But we are in the spirit, right? That is not what this is. It's the most wonderful queerness of the year. Now.
00:25:17
Speaker
It's the most best pussy out of the year. Right in the face till a nigga starts swinging. What are you doing? No, I was going to say, if you are a person that has children,
00:25:29
Speaker
And your children ask you for toys that do not fit into the gender binary. Get them the goddamn toy. I say that because I have worn an Easy Bake Oven since I was 11 years old. I am fucking 30 in a month. And I still do not have what? An Easy Bake Oven. I feel like they got Easy Bake air fryers these days. Oh, god. They probably do, though.
00:26:00
Speaker
I have an attitude about it as well because I remember having friends who were growing up, you know, good, good Judy's, good girlfriends, good girls.
00:26:10
Speaker
who wanted like action figures and stuff and their parents were like, no. So we would go to school together. We would trade our toys sometimes. Cause I'd be like, I got this Hulk and I don't want him, but bitch, you got the doll baby that I want. I wanted that Barbie with the fucking pink with the, I want a nurse Barbie with the hat and shit. So let's switch our, let's switch our shit out. Cause I want this and you want that.
00:26:29
Speaker
And he's going to be so mad, so mad. And I feel like now, maybe it's not as big of a thing as it used to be, but I still think a lot of parents expect, like, I think a lot of parents are still going to act a fucking fool with your child after something that you feel is in their gender identity. And I feel like if your child wants a fucking Barbie or I don't know, whatever else they told the girls got out here that the kids can play with, then by all means, please, it's a fucking toy.
00:27:09
Speaker
being on the iPad or like Fortnite. So I really don't know. Wait, wait, wait. Oh, we sound old. We are. We are. We are removed. OK, wait. OK, because I also feel like I've heard the girls playing with, like, some of the kids playing with. Paw Patrol. Thank you. But not just Paw Patrol. It's another one. It's Paw Patrol, but it's another one. Paw Patrol is not. The Bubble Guppies. Why is Paw Patrol the ops? Because we're playing with the operations. No, we're not. No. Bubble Guppies is still the thing that the girls go up for, too. The kids still love Bubble Guppies. I enjoy Bubble Guppies.
00:27:18
Speaker
period. What are these kids playing with besides Coco? I really don't know.
00:27:37
Speaker
I don't know who or Paw Patrol is. But Paw Patrol is the ops and somebody offered like a different, I have to look it up. There's like a, somebody offered like an alternative to Paw Patrol. So if you're out there, I don't look it up. No, it sounds lit. It's like, they're like, Paw Patrol is the ops because like people have made arguments, like actual critiques about how Paw Patrol kind of like portrays characters.
00:28:04
Speaker
Well, yeah, it's just like all of like the police dog is like very much like the like one of the like heroes and like blah, blah, blah. And then like they have a black woman as the mayor who's like really portrayed as incompetent so much so that like the dogs have to save the day. And then there's like misogynistic things where like the girl dogs don't really get to save
00:28:27
Speaker
like don't get to do as much and whatever. And it's just, it's, yeah. Damn Paw Patrol, you're not that girl. Just say that. I'm going to look up, I'm going to look up the alternative. I'm going to, I'm going to figure it out by the end of the episode, but we'll circle back to that. Um, I had another, um, what is happening?

Critiquing Media and Cultural Representation

00:28:51
Speaker
Okay.
00:28:52
Speaker
That really scared me. I don't know what's happening over there. I have another unpopular opinion relating back to books. It's not holiday related. Oh, I didn't realize she was at your house. It's not holiday related.
00:29:10
Speaker
So I saw like this tweet where people were talking about this one person was talking about having the struggle of like being a marginalized person and having to see yourself like in the classics or whatever, and mad people were like attacking them and shit. And I was just like, like many other people have said before, I don't know, it's not like the general consensus is that this would be an unpopular opinion. But basically, like the white literary canon is like,
00:29:39
Speaker
trash. It's like not good. Oh, it's not. Okay. So like, I am in two, bitch, I've been, I've been in three different fields. I've been in women's studies, I've been in women's studies, and I've been in sociology. Like all three canons are filled with white people. And the gag is, is what I think is funny about like,
00:29:58
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women's studies specifically and like black women's sexuality and gender studies, there's black feminist thought that exists and they still don't count that as canon. Yes, they don't. They don't count R.G. Lord or Horton Spillers or like all these other black women, other black folks who now who are doing like translated, like none of those are considered to be like canon and like
00:30:17
Speaker
in my field in particular but like in anyone else's field either I'm like well that's wild because these are the pieces that are shaping like that are shaping Kathy Cohen right they're like shaping the way that people are navigating you like the only white person I think who I know is not cis or like who is white but like has some sort of sis a little bit is Judith Butler.
00:30:38
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Mm-hmm, mm-hmm, mm-hmm. And that's a gender, that's a gender, like a gender study. Yeah, so like. I'll give, I'll give. I'll give Judas Butler that. Right, but that's it. It's the only way a person I think I'd be like, all right, but like, you might be like, you shook some shit up. I see it. But the rest of these white people was like, I'm gonna do, I'm gonna say the same shit that's four different ways. And also like, that's Canada now. It is not, it is not. This is dumb.
00:31:07
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This is fucking dumb. Yeah, I'm deeply saddened by the idea of how much white people... I mean, I'm not sad. It actually pisses me off even more than their existence does. The fact that their existence, entitlement, and space, the combination of all of it, it really has a deep pissing off of my spirit. But at my alma mater, they had a... It was like a
00:31:33
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Africana studies, like black feminists thought class, like it was something like that, like black queer feminists class or something like that.
00:31:44
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underneath sociology. And I said, oh, I'm going to eat this up. I'm going to eat this up real quick. I'm going to apply for the class. The class is full. I'm doing everything I can, writing the professor, writing the head of the department, all this stuff. Then I looked up the professor. After emailing her, looked up the professor on Google. It is a white woman. I said, what you don't have to do is worry about me. No, no.
00:32:13
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You know what I just thought about because of that? Shelly, did you read the Blueford series? Yes, I have it at my house, right? Wait, I can't. Wait, I can't go. No, please. I can't go. Wait, the Blueford series is written by a white woman? It's written by various authors, a lot of whom. Quite a few of them are white.
00:32:34
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I think it's written by two Black women. I think the rest of the authors are white. Two people. I think there are only two Black women as part of the collective. I'm so sorry to have this to you. The rest of them are Caucasian. Oh my gosh. I'm so sorry, because TikTok won this for me a couple months ago. I literally just found out. And this is like, we're going to bring it back because I'm just like. Was author written by Black people? Arthur, no.
00:33:01
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I thought it was never written by him. But he's coded as black to me.
00:33:04
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But he was not written back. But him and D.W., especially D.W. by C.I.T., D.W. was also D.W. and Francine. So I would say- Wow! D.W. and Francine were colored as black to me. Did y'all see the 25 year reunion special or whatever? I don't think so. It's an episode that flashes forward to where all the characters in Arthur are. Oh, they said it was like the last episode. They said it was like the show finale, yeah. But yeah, D.W. becomes a cop.
00:33:39
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I continue to be like, girl, mind your motherfucking rat business. Right. Not the rat. And she was like, I'm not a fucking rat. And he was just giving rats to me. And now, flash forward 25 minutes, she is a rat. Oh, man. And maybe they coded her and Francine. And even Muffy. Muffy gave me rich, unfriendly black bodies. What kind of animal was Muffy? What's Muffy, Muffy?
00:34:01
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Also, she was a messy bitch who talked a lot of shit and wanted to fight.
00:34:06
Speaker
I don't know. I was about to say a Muppet, but that's not an animal. Is that you, Tamar? Is that you? Stop. Not a Muppet. Stop it. Okay. Anyway, well, the point is like, I just feel, I don't know. I just, I mean, one, it does not surprise me that white people think that like the white literary canon is like this universal experience because there were so many people like jumping
00:34:30
Speaker
of, you know, being aggressive against this person's comment being like, you don't have to how terrible it like very ironically to me being like, you don't have to, like, see yourself in this old literature, blah, blah, blah, that wasn't like, that's like literally my our whole lives.
00:34:47
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Right. I'm like, y'all will use a white literary canonist. And again, depending on what, like, depending on what field you're in, it looks different. But like, in my field in particular, they use a lot of the white literary candidates. A lot of the canon is white for the three subjects I've studied. And in those three fields, they regularly try to use those white folks to determine, like, experience of black folks. Black feminist thought literally came along and was like, you can't do that. This makes no fucking sense. And I'm still not reading about some of those people. And my
00:35:17
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in my field and it's the it's really the reason for me why like when i was studying when i studied english lit
00:35:25
Speaker
in undergrad, I was like, I had to take some classes as a prerequisite or whatever. And like, I'm just in like 16th century Gothic, whatever the fuck. And I'm just like, this is boring. Like, I don't like this shit anymore. Niggas is talking about Midsummer Night's Dream and whatever the fuck. And I'm just like, girl, I'm out. I'm bored. I literally left class my senior year in high school.
00:35:52
Speaker
They put me in AP Lit and I was there for a week. I was there for a week. I was the sweet white woman that wanted to give me everything that she could around all the books that she knew. And I said, white woman, I've seen your curriculum. I see the direction that this is going and I don't want it.
00:36:19
Speaker
There's a creative writing class that they said, I have one week to make up my mind. I am leaving. I am going to party with the Black people. The other two Black people, I said, look, y'all, I know y'all were counting and you were counting on me, but this is not it. This is my senior year. I'm going to write poetry. I'm going to write poetry. I regret not making creative writing my, like,
00:36:45
Speaker
Focus in we should have been we should have been we should have been at what side we should have but We wanted to do naked shit. We wanted to go We wanted to go to bed and get haze and go to freshman hell week and cry about shit and You know practice outside in the heat and pass. I want to do that type of shit. It's so funny backfired
00:37:08
Speaker
I wanted for the band. And by senior year, I was ready to go. I was like, what band? What band? By the end of my sophomore year, I had quit marching band and everything. And all I did was concert. All I did was, and they used to be like, oh Tyrell, the new saxist coming in, they can't read music. Why are you telling me?
00:37:25
Speaker
I was not teaching them niggas. One thing I was not teaching them niggas. I was not teaching them niggas. I never did that. I want to still have mushrooms.
00:37:40
Speaker
Did y'all ever do that song as a marching band? No. We played different music. We played no but I'm just saying as a transition. We played two and a half. We sus for a second. Two and a half. Okay, I like this one.
00:38:03
Speaker
All right, y'all. Praise the world. Praise is what I have. Y'all played that on the... Yes. We were playing Negro spirituals. We were playing Negro spirituals. We were playing Negro spirituals. We were playing Negro spirituals. We were playing Negro spirituals. We were playing Negro spirituals. We were playing Negro spirituals. We were playing Negro spirituals. We were playing Negro spirituals. We were playing Negro spirituals.
00:38:28
Speaker
You know how many times I play stairway to heaven? You know how many times I play stairway to heaven? Do you know how many times? Do you? Do you, Diane? Do you? But yeah. Damn, way to fucking heaven. I had my unpopular, because we're coming at the time, because I feel like I'm in what I said, because I'm taking an hour. OK, you said you had a lot, so rapid fire. I did have a lot, but like. Let's go, rapid fire. I can't rapid fire, because they're going to be like, what? I can do a couple. One of them was, I don't think Halle Berry can act.
00:38:58
Speaker
But she was great in Catwoman. I love Catwoman. It was very campy. Right, I was very campy. She is fun, but doesn't mean she can act. Let's argue, continue. I mean, I feel like... I don't know if I'm arguing necessarily.
00:39:15
Speaker
I also feel like, what is his name? Oh God, I forgot his name. What is he from? The dark skinned nigga that everybody think is really fine. He an actor and he was there. What's it called, a daughter?
00:39:31
Speaker
Michael B. Jordan? Yes, he also can act. He was not one of them. He was not one of them. He was not one of them. Whatever you want to call it, don't even act either, and I want to argue about that. He can act in a popular opinion. I feel like Beyonce is never giving us visuals, but that's probably not in a popular opinion, because we all agree that it's not a popular opinion, but I feel like she's not giving us visuals. She will give us tour, but visuals... I think the visuals will be on the tour. We are the visuals, maybe.
00:39:59
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If you don't go to the tour, you don't get the visual. Imagine if actually, actually imagine if on the tour, Beyonce has just compiled her favorite like fan renditions of like visuals for the songs. And that's another homecoming, but just put more on the crowd. Yes, please.
00:40:21
Speaker
I'm like Beyonce, put us on the payroll. She got my outfit on. How does she do that? She got on my outfit. So fast. How? How does she do that? Girl, you have people who are studying you. There is a whole fucking game. This is not a game at all. This is not a game. Oh, man. Oh, Beyonce. Please. Twitter is about to end, Beyonce. Like, I need the visuals now. The way? Yeah, Twitter is. It should end, but not Black Twitter.
00:40:50
Speaker
I'll save that. That was actually something for later. What? For Twitter? I'm about to say because I actually only have a free Twitter for nasty porn shit. And so I don't actually know what Twitter. Oh my goodness. I mean, are we not telling the truth? Oh, yeah, we are. I don't. I don't. That's like the first OnlyFans.
00:41:12
Speaker
Any other opinions? I had one about a movie, but I think I feel like I want to keep it to myself, because I think it'll come back up later on in the year. No, but I think I'm going to come back up later. If it doesn't come back up, I want you to say it, because I'm curious. I will bring it back up at the end of the year. At the end of the year? Yeah, the end of this year. If it doesn't come back up, because I feel like it might come back up again in the discussion.
00:41:43
Speaker
No, you may have later. Yeah. So I'm going to hold on. Also, you're not missing nothing. It's not that this is. Oh, my God. OK. All right. I think I only have one unpopular opinion. I'm setting in another show. Go ahead. I want to go. When I tell you it's a shake the room, I'm popular because the girl needs to be upset. But I feel how I feel. I like a few more songs than I used to.
00:42:06
Speaker
But I still don't think it's going to be. I think she's giving like she's, if the girl, if the girl has come to the stage and they say category is and she's come.
00:42:27
Speaker
She's gotten dressed. She showed up. She made it to the ball. She is there. But once she starts walking, she gives a little bit. But is she really giving 360s? Is she really giving 10s across the board? I really hate this. This is your description. I really hate this. So you chop her. I hate this. It's my honor. OK, this is how I see it. This is the last thing. This is how I see it. I see it that all the judges, all of them have probably said 10.
00:42:57
Speaker
I think how I am in the room of Renaissance is all of them have said 10 and I'm giving a chop and it probably ruins it for her, but yeah, I'm giving it a child. I mean, you know how, right. You know how Barbara goes. If you get a chop, girl, that's typically it. Like you're not doing that off the floor on the off the floor. And I understand that that means we've called a legend to the floor. And that means that like,
00:43:23
Speaker
I'm trapping a legend, but I still don't think Renaissance as a collective. Body of work is going to be for you. I'll let you have it. The point is, it's unpopular. It is, period. I don't have many people who think it's unpopular. The point is, it's unpopular. The only point. She is a lonely girl on her own.
00:43:51
Speaker
I think that there are songs that could have given us more. I think that there are songs that could have been more gay and put more gays in it. But I do not feel like that's worth a chop for me. And you know what's funny? I was watching this video about this YouTube person I follow. Her name is T. Noire. And she had the video, and it's like Beyonce is Unrelatable. And I was like, I thought I was the only person who felt like that.
00:44:20
Speaker
No, I absolutely agree. But y'all, we aren't relatable and JT's an idiot. And I just was like, what? Like these, both of these niggas is wild and neither one of them read the shit they got to be reading. Like we still, I understand how over Jay-Z telling us that capitalism is made up and it's trying to keep Black folks down. I can't believe that. Finally, you and y'all are capitalists. They're calling me something that is offensive. That's a capitalist.
00:44:41
Speaker
And that's what you are. My nigga, what? You were in your white institution. He was literally. Thousands of people on top of each other in an unsanitary way, AKA Barclays. He was literally. Being a part of that period. It's like spaces trying to like drag people. And it's just like, girl. You've displaced people for the sake of making money. From inside the house. I wonder how many bags you stepped on to get to where you are.
00:45:07
Speaker
Because I feel like nobody who's a billionaire has become a billionaire in a way that's ethical. You have to do some shit to get there. What did you do, Jay-Z? What did you do? Well, Beyonce is not the billionaire, but what did you do, bitch? You did something, too. Ain't she? I thought both of them together were billionaires. I don't know if they're separately billionaires.
00:45:25
Speaker
I thought she was making more money than him. I thought that too, but I didn't think that they were... They said, what's better than one billionaire is two, girl. I feel like... Especially if they're the same, he was you, bitch. I didn't even realize that was the next sign. Yeah, so two black capitalists. Do you have a lyrics? Capitalist. Well, we are at nine, but we're gonna... It's a little prompter.
00:45:51
Speaker
I'm going to, no, I already knew. Thank you. Okay. I'm going, are there any like final thoughts before I get into Girl I Guess? Cause we got to go with Tiana. Please shut. Oh my gosh. Wait. Okay. I'm sorry. The model videos are really doing it. Well, that's not unpopular that I think Balenciaga is trash. Is that? No.
00:46:18
Speaker
I don't know. That's not for me, but I would say Balenciaga as in from the American Horror Story covers. Yes. No, I know. No, Chilly, you didn't watch it. No. Okay, let's move on. Let's move on. Let's go. Let's move on to what I did watch before. Wait, we're not... Okay, I'm saving that for less. Okay. Wow. So one of the things for Girl I Guess, here we are.
00:46:44
Speaker
One of the things is yes, Twitter is in hot water. If you have been paying attention to the social media streets, you probably have seen an assortment of things. Elon Musk bought Twitter, honestly, like a week or two ago.
00:47:01
Speaker
And everything has gone shit. You know?

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00:47:07
Speaker
What is happening on Twitter? So Elon Musk bought Twitter. Fired everybody. He fired over 50% of the staff. Oh, you don't know what that is? I'll give you like... Because it's so much. It's so much. Wait, he fired over 50% of the staff. Wait, quick visual. There is a movie of this guy that walks into a corporate office with a Nerf gun.
00:47:30
Speaker
shooting everyone like, you're fired. Get out of here. And or like, no, it has slime. It's like a slime gun. And he's shooting everyone like, get out of my office. They're saying that was him. I can't deal with it. So here's a lot of things. Elon Musk was already in a lot of trouble. We knew that like, he tried to buy Twitter before a couple months ago, and he was trying to re-nig against it, right?
00:47:55
Speaker
But the thing is, is that he kind of like led people to believe that he was going to do this thing. So he was going to get into a lawsuit for not actually following through with it. So he kind of didn't have any choice. And he bought Twitter for like a preposterous amount of money that it was not worth, like $44 billion or some shit like that.
00:48:14
Speaker
On top of the fact that Elon Musk is a broke boy, like he actually doesn't have that money. All of his other assets are like, are like depreciating, like Tesla is like in some shit, like all of his other shit. We should talk about the Tesla thing because I definitely
00:48:32
Speaker
drove by a movie theater where a whole bunch of Tesla things, it was empty. I'm like, are people still buying those cars? I rode in a Tesla in Vegas, actually. And I was like, this is such a weird situation of a car. People really go up the steering wheel and are trusting this man. Absolutely not. And it's making me so nervous. I told you that. Absolutely not. The Vegas Auto, whatever that thing is, and I said, no way.
00:48:58
Speaker
So the acquisition of Twitter by Elon Musk is actually on Wikipedia, which is hilarious to me. Basically, Elon Musk and his other companies are already in a lot of debt, right? So Elon Musk has a lot of debt on his back on the top of buying Twitter for like a preposterous amount of money that it's not actually worth. But he had to follow through with this $43 billion takeover because he like tried to renege against it. And the girls were like, Oh, we're gonna sue you.
00:49:28
Speaker
And so he had to. So he took it on. And then since then, he has fired a majority of his staff, including like, its security team, communications officer, officers. For the remaining staff, he told people who are working remotely, like with a very quick turnaround that they had to suddenly come into the office, like people talking about getting like an email at 2am saying that they need to come into the office. Having to work like
00:49:56
Speaker
preposterous hours. 84 hours a week. Um, 80, 84 hours in one. I would have just went ahead and quit any fucking way because I'm not working with a ridiculous white man to begin with. People he fired, um, apparently they were alleging that he didn't, he was doing so, he was trying to do so before like, I think the first
00:50:21
Speaker
Someone said he was trying to do so before the first so he wouldn't have to really pay like severance or whatever. But there were people that he fired without giving proper notice like he was supposed to give 30 or 60 days notice and they didn't get that notice so they're like suing. I think those folks are going to sue him for that.
00:50:40
Speaker
Then, OK, so all of these things are happening. He's losing money, right? Twitter is just plummeting, right? What he said, what he thought was going to be a good idea, is that he could make Twitter a subscription where people would pay. First, he said $20. Number one, pay for what? $20. First, he said $20 a month for a verification check. Oh, yes. So you can pay for that now? Yeah. Then, I'm not done. I'm not done. I'm not done.
00:51:11
Speaker
Then he, somebody said, I think Stephen King was like, girl, absolutely not. And then he was like, oh, what about $8? And so he made it $8 for people to subscribe to Twitter blue so that they could get they could just have a checkmark, right?
00:51:26
Speaker
go wrong with that. A lot of things could go wrong with that. Oh, it was so bad. Niggas were getting this verification check mark and impersonating any and everybody. They were pretending to be McDonald's. They were pretending to be George W. Bush. They were pretending- Well, if McDonald's and Murray King got beefing with blue check marks, are we going to laugh at that now too? Because I think
00:51:50
Speaker
The thing is that the reason why verification even became a thing originally is because when Twitter didn't have that feature, anybody could just pretend to be anybody. The reason why verification exists is so that those companies and more celebrities and whatever, they wouldn't get into trouble with that. So when you make those check marks available for everybody, niggas don't do nigga shit.
00:52:13
Speaker
One of the things is that I think it's like e-lily, or I forgot how it's pronounced, but it's like a pharmaceutical company that owns the like patent on insulin.
00:52:24
Speaker
somebody pretended to be them and said, Oh, we're announcing that insulin is free now. And their stocks plummeted like billions of dollars. I don't hate it. I don't hate it. I have heard there are a lot of other reasons for that. But I think if the Twitter controversy is
00:52:45
Speaker
related that Elon Musk is going to get into a lot of trouble from them and other people. I saw a post and somebody was like, yeah, that was wild. But the fact that we can see how our healthcare system is based on y'all charging ridiculous amounts of money and having shitty insurance and forcing folks to pay out of pocket for this shit. Because I used to have to take insulin too. And my insulin was curved by my insurance until it wasn't.
00:53:13
Speaker
And then when it wasn't, I was like, well, how much am I paying out of pocket? It was hundreds of dollars. It's sad that we can know that that is a joke when a pharmaceutical company would say something like that. Right, because we're like, I hope they're not real, because they would never make that. Right, never.
00:53:35
Speaker
accessible. They will start a war. If you want your insulin for free, you diabetic bitch, you diabetic bitch, you sugar issue having bitch, you're not getting anything.
00:53:54
Speaker
Oh my god. Thank you. Thank you sugar. Yes you have it bitch. You want to survive so bad. You want me to move to be just so you can live. That's crazy. You are live? Wow. If you want to breathe and thrive. How dare you want to go on trips and hang out with your friends and get married. Who do you think you are bitch? How dare you want to breathe? To breathe. I'm nasty. Breathe.
00:54:20
Speaker
So the aftermath of that is just 48 hours after it was announced and issued. Twitter Blue is no longer available. You can no longer buy those check marks. And Elon has stated that bankruptcy is a possibility for Twitter. Also, why those girls are very scary? I don't know who owned Twitter in the first place, but like,
00:54:50
Speaker
I looked it up. It was like a little white boy, whatever his name was. And then he like sold it. He like, I think he gave up his shares like a while ago or whatever, some shit. And so he's owned it, but he didn't have a share in the company. I think so. I don't know. I don't know.
00:55:10
Speaker
So wait, did Elon Musk ever give him all this money? Because I feel like he did it if he never had it to begin with. Well, that's the thing. Because I feel like that's the thing about folks saying rich people and debts. A lot of those things are liquid, whatever. It's not like he literally has the money. It's stuff he's supposed to have the money from his assets or whatever. Right. I got that. But I feel like where is my cut? If I sold this money for $44 billion, where the fuck is the $44 billion fucking dollars?
00:55:37
Speaker
owes a lot of niggas money right now is well and all i will say is given he's about to go put himself in a cave and start crying and act like he doesn't or ship himself or ship herself in his face one of the other i would just say build himself to cover very very funny
00:55:54
Speaker
I think it's unfortunate for niggas, really, niggas, most specifically. Because there are a lot of people who are just like, Twitter is a hellscape. Like, oh my god, I hate it so much. And I'm like, yeah, social media would be like that. But I also feel like niggas really built a community on Twitter. Oh, Black Twitter really did. Don't be other places. Because Instagram is not giving that. Instagram is not an information place to go to to find out anything. No.
00:56:23
Speaker
TikTok is not that girl either. TikTok is it for a good laugh, but I don't really like- The girls are sharing their emotional amendments. I don't know, because I've been seeing some good TikToks. I'm like, okay, wait. I mean, I do. I'm praying to my therapist? Is that me? The thing is, I don't want to have to post a picture of myself or a video to have to interact with people. I just want to be able to be like, damn, did y'all see Wakanda forever last night?
00:56:47
Speaker
You know what I mean? Right. The girls are crying in Detroit. And just have a conversation. So I, though I love laughing at billionaires, I do hate that this happened at the like detriment of people who are actually using Twitter for good and such. Or for building their businesses, childhood only, fans and girls.
00:57:04
Speaker
Or for laughing at the queen dying, because that was fucking hilarious. That was a good time. Or the collective mourning of, again, we're mentioning, like, Wakanda Forever, Charming Bozeman. That was fucking tough. And even with Leslie Jordan.
00:57:18
Speaker
Oh my God. Black folks love. We love for Leslie Jordan because watching him during the pandemic, act a fucking fool and listen up. That video was listening to what? That video was listening to what? He was flabbergasted. He was like, oh my God.
00:57:44
Speaker
Wait, y'all gotta see this video of when he is shopping for an outfit and he's coming out of the fitting room but trying on Nipah outfit. He said the girls have a new outfit. But it's like all of these cowboy outfits and I'm like, what the, where is he going? And then he puts it on, he said, mm-hmm, look at my new zoo. That's my baby.
00:58:07
Speaker
Look, we love Leslie Jordan. So I feel like those kind of things, right? That kind of community is not happening on Instagram, right? It's definitely not happening on Facebook. Oh, girl. Who's going back to Facebook? We don't know. We don't know. And then I heard that. So I did hear that Tumblr was like, hey, girl, y'all can go back to posting the news, but you can't post sexual content. And I was like,
00:58:30
Speaker
What's the point? We left for a long time ago too, could y'all try to figure out a lesson? I remember I had videos floating on Tumblr. I was very Tumblr, I was Tumblr. I wasn't famous, I was Tumblr popular. I wasn't Tumblr famous, but I was Tumblr popular.
00:58:45
Speaker
Tumbler was a moment. Tumbler was a moment for like early twenties, like 19 year old me. Like that was, that was like 20. I was young. I went to a Tumbler meetup. It was a cute time. I never had Tumbler meetups in Virginia. I met some of my friends from Tumbler. Shout out to Briepe and Dean. They did not fuck with us.
00:59:11
Speaker
I met some folks. The tough little girlies were like, you want to have a time with me to put Richmond? That's gross. We were like, wait. I mean, I met folks while I was in college, so. We were like, niggas actually also live here. And I'm not going all the way to DC to do a meet up. I'm not coming to Atlanta for a meet up. Y'all are fucking wild. Did I? Well, yeah, I went to Maryland. Not Baltimore. It wasn't Baltimore. That's even worse. It wasn't Baltimore. It was some other random ass place. That's even worse. No, stop. It was, um. What was it, writing sign?
00:59:39
Speaker
It was like University of Maryland, but like the nigga one, like not. College Park? Not College Park, no. There's a different one. There's like, no. You know what, don't put the spotlight. No, it's the HBQ. Well, they have Morgan State and they have Coppin State. Oh my God, that's not the one. Townsend? Oh my God, I don't even know. I applied to them and got waitlisted. Fucking Townsend.
01:00:06
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I applied to them and got waitlisted and I was so mad because I was like, it's not even hard to get in here. Eastern Shore. Eastern Shore. Oh, somebody I knew had a worse EPA than me. Eastern Shore was the same anyway. But yeah, Twitter, I mean, I don't know what's going on in the social media screens. Just want to point out that we are at an hour and 25 seconds. Wow, didn't make it. And it's upsetting me, because we have a lot of time with Twitter.
01:00:34
Speaker
Okay, but you could have gave me a
01:00:37
Speaker
I gave it to you. The neck is black and I actually was enjoying this. I'm having a beautiful day. Anyway, I will move on. But yeah, if Twitter is going down, you know, maybe share with us your favorite Twitter moments. I remember, speaking of the nigger navy, actually. Why is it a hard ER? Because you don't remember that?
01:01:05
Speaker
You don't remember that? That sounds like, whoa. That the nigger name moment from Twitter? You don't remember that? No. And why did you pick Twitter? What is it? Oh my god. What does it mean? I'm. I had to stand up because. OK, this was a black Twitter moment that y'all did not experience, and I need y'all to know. There was a typo. I'm going to recount it. Lord, the babysitter? There was a typo that I think. OK.
01:01:34
Speaker
So we're going to do bigger and bigger things and they put nigger and nigger things? No. It was a Yahoo Finance account. This happened like years ago. This happened in 2017. Oh, Yahoo's also trash. 2017. Yeah. Why do people in my family still have Yahoo accounts? I'm sorry.
01:01:51
Speaker
And the tweet says, Trump wants a much nigger Navy. Here's how much it'll cost. Excuse me? It was a typo, but people. No, it was not. I thought you had to put my horse back. Where has somebody's iPhone or someone's Google ever, ever, ever corrected a nigger to be nigger? It's like a message saying it with a hard ER. Uh-huh. Get the fuck out of here.
01:02:14
Speaker
And then, mind you, that is what he really wants. He says, come on, gather round, get all of the blacks, get all the blacks here, and put them in the front. Because we're Italian. They're black asses. That was my unforgettable Twitter moment to share. If y'all don't remember that or you don't know what I'm talking about, let's go look it up. No, I will not. Last time I was on Twitter as an actual participant, Rihanna and Ciara were fighting.
01:02:42
Speaker
I don't remember that. I don't remember that. I remember Rihanna and Azealia Banks fighting. No, Rihanna and Ciara were fighting because... What were they fighting about? What were they ever fighting about? I don't remember, but I remember Ciara being like... What were they ever fighting about?
01:02:57
Speaker
I think Ciara was like, I'll see you. Ciara was like, you can't see me on or off the stage. And Rihanna was like, good luck with that stage you speak of. And I was like, yikes. That's crazy. Wow. Because we know back then, Rihanna didn't give a fuck. She was cussing everybody out. She did it. Smacking niggas in her console with microphones.
01:03:26
Speaker
With money. Honestly. The way she busted that man in the hand when he tried to let her go at that concert, and she was trying to walk away. And she just took a motherfucker and busted him by the top of his hand. I was like, actually, yes. We're also like, oh my god. Speaking of the BET Awards with that, the wild cash, throwing it on his face and walking on stage. Speaking of. Wait, fun fact. I was just at the Blue Note with the man that she threw that money
01:03:56
Speaker
And I saw him, and I thought of it immediately. I thought of that gift like... Wow. Rihanna really chose that. You should have been like, could I have a photo? Could I have a photo? Could you keep the money? Okay. I should have just reenacted it and like did an effect. The inside of my... All right, all right, all right, all right. This is why we don't keep... Go ahead. You already, you already took it up.
01:04:18
Speaker
We have a chance of redeeming ourselves. It won't be an hour and 45 minute episode. It won't. It won't. All right. So speaking of Rihanna, Rihanna had her Savage Fenty show, Volume 4, which is like a feature-length fashion film, whatever.
01:04:39
Speaker
Um, debuting like Savage Fenty materials. It's available on Amazon prime video, which is the first time. No, she also, but she also had, I think there's like, there's like actual stuff from Savage Fenty on Amazon as well for you to purchase from Amazon. I thought so. Cause I don't know. I don't know if it's, I don't know. Here we go. I'm gonna go check my Amazon account right now.
01:05:03
Speaker
If Tyrell says that, y'all hold them to it. I just said, let me fucking check. Don't do that. Okay. Don't do that. I wish we had a visual podcast so that y'all could have seen the research face that Ty for the world immediately. Let me check. Oh my God. Shut up. While Tyrell is looking that up,
01:05:31
Speaker
Okay, there is savage Fenty on Amazon. It's like being sold from Fenty. Yes, it is up here. That's very interesting. That is ugly. Okay. Well, Tyrell says the stuff is ugly, so don't do that.
01:05:49
Speaker
Final report. Don't go. Don't go. No, not all of it. Some of it I recognize from the actual fashion show. And some of it I think is stuff that she had sold before, I think. And also, I'm like, I would rather have a savage account because women's romantic cord and lace and tulle maxi slip is $84.95. What? OK. I don't know.
01:06:20
Speaker
Um, so this Savage Fenty show happened. I did not watch it, but a lot of what people were talking about, uh, was y'all, it was the cast. Well, there were some people who were like, Oh yeah. Listen, Duke is in it. Cheryl Lee. Ralph is in it. Yeah. Taraji was in it. She was great. Great. Love, love niggas. Love that. Um, a lot of controversy came.
01:06:50
Speaker
When Rihanna announced that Johnny Depp would be a featured male model, whatever, in the show, and many of the girls were like, Rihanna, why the fuck would you do that? Right. Some of the girls dragged her over for Burnaboy too. I see shade. Oh, Burnaboy has
01:07:09
Speaker
Does her boy have allegations for things or am I making a joke? Yes, no. OK. All right. Most definitely. That came up. Yeah, somebody was like, so you chose all of the impute. Like, you chose several of you to do the Monsieur thing and say, look what I'm going to do. I mean, it was like, so there was, where was Dochie? You know, that's a good point. You know, one thing they're going to do is look at Dochie and be like, oh, that's cute. But they used her song. Oh, they used it. I watched it. I watched it. They used crazy.
01:07:37
Speaker
And I thought for a second that that was her, and I'm like, oh no, that's not her. Oh no, that stinks. But you used her song, but didn't call her. But you called Johnny Depp. And you called Brenna Boy. I find it very confusing, but unfortunately I do think this is
01:07:58
Speaker
getting to be on brand for. Brianna, yes. Yeah, because after this announcement came out and many folks were driving her rightfully so, they were also bringing up many other things from Brianna's past choices. She gave Zelly, not Zelly, she gave that white man, Sean King, yes, how come I, thank you. She gave him the award for that award earlier a couple of years ago. He was like, why? She also is with a nigga who was super anti-black and homophobic, but go off.
01:08:30
Speaker
None of us will ever approve of that partnership. And here's the thing, right? None of us even acknowledge it as a partnership. We don't acknowledge him. That's where we're starting. We don't acknowledge him. Right, we acknowledge her. The baby, thank God there was blood from her and somebody else. Love the lineage, but the mix. But yeah, this is not her first time, I think, like, siding on the, like, being on the side of work. Being on the wrong side of things. Right, and I also feel like
01:08:56
Speaker
for me like other celebrities do this too but I think in particular with Rihanna like bitch you got enough you got enough money to hire somebody to read some shit we just said anything about Jay-Z and Beyonce y'all got enough money to for people to read you or talk to you about things that are happening if you don't want to do it yourself y'all niggas just say fuck that I'm gonna do whatever I want to do and y'all have to deal with it and it's like as much as we love Rihanna as like a personality like the politic is not matching
01:09:20
Speaker
It's not giving. It's not giving. Because I feel like what people think is that, oh, Rihanna has a plus size line. And I'm not going to hold you. I do own two pair of sweatpants. But I bought those before this happened. So let's be clear. I did also have Fenty some stuff before this. Thank you. I also bought a pair of drawers and some sweatpants in the hoodie. So give me some. Before this happened, I wanted to do my neck. Before they come for my neck. But no, it just feels like, I feel like people are like, oh, well, she has a plus size. She has all these shades in her 15 makeup.
01:09:49
Speaker
That's true, but it doesn't negate all that shit can be true. Your politic can still be trash, right? Like you supporting, like fat folks are supporting another marginalized group is not negate the other shit that you do.
01:10:00
Speaker
And as a person who has so much power when you do shit like this, and also, to be clear, Johnny Depp's team is really smart. They're going to start introducing him to us, bringing him back into the public, into the public eye very slowly. And they started with this. And be honest with you, sure. That's why I'm here. I feel like this reminds me of what other people have been saying that, unfortunately,
01:10:21
Speaker
I feel like a lot of the aftermath of that case is there's just more space for abusers to be able to, especially well-known people.
01:10:31
Speaker
who are abusers to be able to come back into the public eye and also to like, I don't know, like to try to reframe themselves in whatever sort of way. Like the whole thing was like Dr. Luke or whatever is happening where he's like, he's suing Kesha for defamation in the same way that Johnny Depp was suing Amber Heard. But also that I just can't imagine
01:10:54
Speaker
someone being like, yeah, defamation. Are you kidding? But you know what? I was going to say what judge could see that, but I know several judges would probably be on his side. It's not about the actual harm. It's about like, do you legally have the right to talk about this very dramatic thing that happened to you? And when you look at things like that, I just really find it questionable for Rihanna to just get into the mix of some shit.

Media Narratives and Social Issues

01:11:20
Speaker
Even back when the whole Sean King shit was happening, I was like, girl, why would you do that? And we kept asking. We were like, girl, where are the schools at? Where are the schools at? Where's the money at? Where the money in the school's at? But look at the nice house you have. What's happening? It's not at a map, not mapping. Let me just throw that into somebody. And that's the thing. I feel like that's wild to me that you're still begging for money as if people have not asked you for the receipts for what the fuck the money is you already have. Where's the money you already have now?
01:11:48
Speaker
Like, where is it? That doesn't make sense for me to feel like, oh, I'm going to ask more money after the money. I can't give you no more notes if you want to apply my first set of notes. Then to be honest, tell them that. I can't give you another set of notes if my first set of notes are applied. OK. It doesn't make sense for me to apply. So the first set of notes have not been applied. So why are we on the second set of notes? Period. All of this is also reminding me how
01:12:18
Speaker
Somebody was calling out Hulu for being trash or also the person who had posted this, who they put up something where Michael Tyson was talking to this like spiritual person talking about like forgiveness and all this stuff. And somebody said to put this because the person who it was, it's like very known. It's like in this gentle spiritual way.
01:12:42
Speaker
And the person was like to put this up as if he is warranted of our forgiveness, as if he has not completely destroyed a woman's life. And like, she then was talking about how like the series is making it seem like he can be redeemed in any type of way. And even having a series about him is actually gaslighting the experience of all of these women who have had so many abusive partnerships. And it's completely invalidating like his allegations. And I'm just like,
01:13:12
Speaker
And there we go again. There. Who's there with Dave Chappelle? And then tried to gaslight us about it. We were like, what the fuck? And then tried to gaslight us and then fired the people who were like, this is not.
01:13:26
Speaker
Like this is not great. And then release a statement for those people to be like, if you like, we found, then we got the message that leaked the email that leaked saying like, it's like, there are some things that people are like, we're going to happen. People are going to like, and they feel like you can leave. Like that's a very different conversation from like, this person has actively been transphobic and harmful and y'all keep giving him fucking material. Like keep giving him spaces to do the same shit over and over again.
01:13:51
Speaker
And you know what, somebody had compared that to Kevin Hart, and I was like, no, Kevin Hart just whacked me, he's a loser. And I was like, I don't think he's funny. That's the difference for me. Kevin Hart is not out here, I think, giving too much neck, cheating on wives, lying short. But like, being a beautiful kid for me, although they got on his ass too when he talked about his kids.
01:14:13
Speaker
Oh, yeah. And his last special, and they were like, who doesn't? He don't like them. Most definitely. And I feel like if I was your child and I'm a teenager and I watch your special and you drag me on, but OK, so you got something you want to say? Right. Like, why are you talking about? Say it to my face. Like, you guys did all the rehearsing outside the studio, but you didn't you never went to rehearse in the house. Right. I'm talking about me and my momma like that. Like, I don't understand. Wow. Yeah. So Rihanna, get it together, hon.
01:14:40
Speaker
or don't, what does not buy your shit? Or don't, but you know. I'll just stop buying your shit. What rich people do, I guess. So the next one is, you know, just like a warning for gun violence and such. So as many people may have already heard, I think a week ago, perhaps, takeoff, unfortunately, passed away due to a
01:15:10
Speaker
active gun violence in accident, supposedly. Well, I mean, I don't know. I don't know all of the details. Where him and Quavo were like, I think at a party or like a kickback of some sort.
01:15:31
Speaker
and some other person was getting into an argument and Takeoff just kind of got caught up in the mix. It might have actually been shot accidentally by friendly fire. And so that has led to a lot of folks like sharing their memories of Takeoff and such. I think it was very unfortunate and I wish that that would make folks want to think differently about gun violence, but I feel like they're not gonna.
01:16:01
Speaker
Um, but you know, it's just, it's just like, damn, I really wish that we didn't have to keep seeing niggas. What got me though, was that the first thing niggas started to talk about was black on black crime. And I'm like, girl, no. So I wish I could see Shelly's face. We need to do a visual talk. We need to post clips to Instagram. I will give a description. It's giving, um,
01:16:31
Speaker
Oh, could I really give a description? Hey tilts down in 45 degree angle. Eyes almost forward. It's a side eye and it's a bitch what? That's what it's doing. You know, I was like, not this. I'm like, y'all already don't have the range. And like, there was a, one of my favorite YouTubers,
01:16:53
Speaker
had made a video about it and was talking about how bad it was. And I was like, I actually studied this while I was in undergrad. I'm like, I can send y'all links and articles about how black people are not killing each other more than any other. More than any other. It's talked about in politics. It's bought up in media more. Black death is a commodification. We're talking about necropolitics now, bitch.
01:17:17
Speaker
But like black death is commodified and used, right? And different ways by media to put different stories and ideas about us. And so like for people to be like, oh, we killed each other more. I'm like, that's not, for you to think that that's one thing, but there are research studies that show that we do not kill each other more than any other.
01:17:37
Speaker
race of folks. And speaking of that, and just the fact that there, I don't know if this was TMZ primarily or if it was just niggas on social media, but I absolutely need y'all to stop.
01:17:50
Speaker
posting videos and pictures of people's dead bodies. Please. For the world to see. Nobody needed to see takeoff laid out on the ground. We didn't need to see that. I was just looking because it happened like mad early in the morning. It was like 5am and I was just randomly awake and people were saying that takeoff died. So of course I like go and look.
01:18:13
Speaker
like in Twitter or whatever to see if anybody has like an article or something. But then like niggas start like sharing pictures and video and whatever and I just like scrolled past a picture or something. I don't know if TMZ probably did. I don't know. They're raggedy. I don't even know how they're even still functioning either. But reputable news stories. I don't know how the fuck they're still functioning.
01:18:36
Speaker
I don't think we ever saw them. No, the way that people treat TMZ is that people get their actual news from TMZ.
01:18:45
Speaker
They are not a reputable news source. They are not. But yeah, I need us to not do that. But I just feel like giving those black on black crime arguments are not what it's giving. I feel like it needs to be giving more of a like, ooh, why is the NRA, why are these politicians controlling the fact that America is a very much gun heavy country and we don't need to be like that?
01:19:14
Speaker
We don't. I also feel like y'all didn't care about white, white children dying. So I feel like it's not the first time that last one where you were the cops and around and an entire school got shut up and they were like hiding in stairwells or sitting outside with my child to get there and ran out. So yeah, I just, um,
01:19:38
Speaker
I also feel like what happened to with this was that Takeoff's allegations also came out because if people remember Takeoff was under the radar for a while and it's because allegations was happening and he was trying to keep it cute. And people brought it back up and people were like, why y'all always do this when a black man dies? I'm like, we do that with any of y'all.
01:19:57
Speaker
Also, let's get into it because why the fuck do y'all feel like y'all can cause harm to people and then you die and just get erased because you're dead? No, those people probably, those women wanted justice. Those people wanted justice and now they're not going to get it because this person is gone. And I think more than one thing can exist, right? People can mourn the loss of takeoff. People can have their feelings about him being killed by another black person. People can say the same things about him.
01:20:20
Speaker
Kobe Bryant and shit. Right. And we were like, OK, but that was a thing. And we talked about it. You could have a complicated relationship with someone. First of all, y'all don't really know these niggas. Let's be holding on to try to make sure that they have a legacy that's able to live and thrive and then rest in peace and all the rest of this. But y'all will peddly talk about anybody that you actually do know.
01:20:49
Speaker
Like, if somebody pass that you do know, you still might have some drama with them. People pull up to funerals with drama all the time. Oh, no, I'm not saying that. Girl, sometimes it's- Oh, my gosh. Sometimes it's called- Sometimes that bitch left, and I still wanted to fight her, so I'm going to go to the funeral. I'm just going to sit in the back and be like, I didn't forget.
01:21:11
Speaker
Maybe I'm coming to collect my things from your kin. Girl, you owe me some money. Maybe I'm going to go to the parking lot and be like, hey, that bitch owe me $3,000. I want you to roll up out of her policy. Figure out how you're going to get it to me. I'm going to start putting shit the fuck up. I'm going to try to land niggas out in the street in front of the funeral home. It's an easy fix. Don't do that.
01:21:34
Speaker
I can see it. I'm going to segue into the next thing because it's kind of related.

Drake's Lyrics and Public Persona

01:21:40
Speaker
But yeah, I feel like there's a fun thing after it, so it's fine. The next thing after this, which I feel like y'all would have opinions on, so that's why I feel like I wanted to bring it up, is the Drake
01:21:56
Speaker
and 21 Savage making the stallion bar. We are going to bring it up because it's related. Do I have an opinion on it? No, I'm going to recap it for the audience. Please don't. I say that it's related because in the wake of the takeoff thing and niggas are crying about all of this stuff, right? So segues that niggas are crying? Right? No. You're not listed.
01:22:23
Speaker
The segue is that because of people feeling a way about take off dying and feeling like, oh, it's unnecessary with gun violence and such, we segue into Drake and 21 Savage who released this album that's called Her Loss or some other shit. I don't know what the fuck. He stayed crying. I didn't listen to it, right? But there is a bar that Drake
01:22:52
Speaker
Yes, there's like a bar. A line said. A bar that he gives that it's like about, many would argue is about Megan the Stallion. He says some shit. What is it? You couldn't just skip this story altogether, but you did not want to. No, because I'm trying to give support to Megan the
01:23:17
Speaker
We care, we just don't want to talk about fucking Drake. Like, please, that nigga is an abusive loser and he sucks. Okay, that's great. If that's what you have to offer, what I'm trying to say to the people that are listening is that Drake tried to offer this bar where he says shit like, oh, he's like not, um,
01:23:36
Speaker
He don't fuck. Oh, it's on Circle Loco is the name of the song. I don't know the name of the song because I didn't listen to the whole album. Actually none of us did. We love ourselves. None of us did. I didn't listen to any of it. But basically he's like alleging, you know, talking about some girl that he don't fuck with because of like her getting shots or whatever. But she's still a stallion though. So many people were like, oh, he's talking about Megan Thee Stallion. In the aftermath of that, basically long story short,
01:24:03
Speaker
Drake and apparently like Lil Yachty for whatever reason is coming. A lot of other niggas are coming to his defense and be like, no, he's just saying like, he don't fuck with girls that got like body shots and shit.
01:24:16
Speaker
No. So we just all stupid. It wasn't like it was clever enough for you to really have a solid like, okay, maybe I can see this. It was very blatantly that. And again, this is the same nigga who was hugging up on the stallion all up in her face and photos and shit. Like who knows a couple of months ago or something like that. It was all in her grill. He also called Serena Williams husband a groupie. He married her. You're the groupie.
01:24:46
Speaker
Oh, hey. Um, so yeah, like many people have said, Drake is just a very, very sad, like, skin man. My nigga approaches these more successful women.
01:24:58
Speaker
And he feels whatever, I don't know, just whatever sort of spurned, scorned against them when they reject his advances or they leave him or whatever. And he feels like he still needs to write songs about them or whatever. They may have a conversation about how Serena Williams, they went on a couple of dates and they didn't work out. They were dating for a little while. She never really publicly claimed him. But neither did Rihanna.
01:25:24
Speaker
I mean, no, neither do you. And that's the gag. You talk about you in love with her and you've been in love with her for such a long time.
01:25:33
Speaker
Well, that's the thing. I feel like Drake is very much. I don't recall Rihanna ever saying I feel the same way. Drake gives very much a manipulative person. Yeah, he does. Among other things. He got a son, Jesus. But all of that to say, y'all need to leave Megan Thee Stallion alone because she is very true that y'all always like the baby not too recently, not that long ago.
01:26:00
Speaker
tried to make his album that is going triple Dust Bowl pop. I was nervous when you said triple. I said, right? I was like, who are you? I heard the concert. I heard the concert. We're getting, we're getting canceled. The only thing.
01:26:26
Speaker
The only thing niggas know about that album is that he put some sort of bar that he like fucked her or whatever. First of all, I don't even believe that. That's the only thing niggas know. I absolutely don't. Because I feel like he's always been with somebody. That niggas always been dating. Niggas cheat, but I feel like Megan's not giving that. Not with the baby.
01:26:47
Speaker
And Megan is accurate when she says niggas will put her name into something because they know it'll get them attention. That's the only thing that keeps them relevant. And honestly, it's true. The only thing I heard about DaBaby is that. The only thing I heard about Drake and 21 Savage in this album was that line. The music wasn't done. The music wasn't done.
01:27:15
Speaker
I also heard, they were also talking about, cause I heard another lyric, I guess he had made about like, about the song, about a song, not a song, but I think he was like, the lyric was like something about like him
01:27:29
Speaker
like, oh, he was an Oh Her Music someone I've heard enough, you can turn it off now or something like that to that effect. And someone said that was about Ice Spice. Yeah, Ice Spice was like, well, I heard that. But then someone also was about Megan. And I was like, either way, I feel like this coming from a nigga is wild. But it's coming from a nigga like you was wild because your last two albums, all of us have paid. First of all, he just put an album out.
01:27:52
Speaker
in June and nobody's talking about it. And he painted. Why are we calling these albums and why are we saying that there are bars that exist anywhere? That's what we should start. I didn't say lyrics. I didn't say bars. Okay, whatever. Why are we saying that this is an album? But why are we saying this is an album? He's trying to because the labels technically would say that. I just want to know what it is, okay?
01:28:15
Speaker
Because it's giving a leaked journal entry that he happened to have performed at her studio and recorded. I'm dead. When the girls put out 50 song projects. Is that Chris Brown? Is that you? Because please. But I think that's what the girls are giving these days. Just lackluster. I'm like, this is also the same person who put out an album, like a disco, whatever album. It flopped. We weren't fucking with it.
01:28:40
Speaker
Because when have we ever seen you in a disco? And not just that. Why did you think that you could pull off an album like that without any queers?
01:28:51
Speaker
People really think that they can make somebody dance without the clearest, number one. Number two, the thing that is like, it's not even hard. You have access to this one person that we all have collectively agreed on. It's one of the legends, the actual, well, yes. Well, no, Big Freedia has already done many things, but there's somebody that they don't put enough respect on.
01:29:14
Speaker
in many different capacities. And that's k-tranada. Like if you really want to make the girls dance. Because we love k-tranada. You don't even need to talk. If you really want to get somebody, if you want some intersections, get a Haitian gay man. Well, let Drake tell it he doesn't like gay men. Well, I will stand by myself. And that's OK. Don't look in the mirror ever again. Take all your mirrors out of your home.
01:29:45
Speaker
Take all your mirrors out of your home and keep the confessions of your heart to yourself. Why would you eat her up like this? Right here. Oh, my God. I'm sending MC Deborah on her. Sickle. Sickle. We could send anybody. You cut a new color, a new dew. OK. No, I was also like, and people don't remember this, but like, McConan had a whole thing fall out with Drake.
01:30:14
Speaker
Very much, yeah. And people like, when I mentioned people are like, that happened. I'm like, yes. And here's the thing, I actually like Mccona's music a lot. I'm probably one of the few people I think that might like his music. I don't know about anybody who doesn't know his music. He had, I'm going up on a Tuesday. That's one of the... For people who want the most popular one, if you're name dropping, because we will name drop the girls, but if y'all are not up to date with the girls, then there is the popular one. Right, the popular girl.
01:30:44
Speaker
No, McConan and Drake had a whole thing where they had a hole falling out. And McConan was like, Drake had essentially like, was like, you gay, you're, you know, caught him a faggot. It was basically like, don't talk to him, don't hit on him, all this other stuff. McConan was like, I had never even thought of Drake. I was never seeing it for you, period. Right. And so, like, McConan fell off the face of the earth for like four years and like moved to like the mountains and Colorado and got a house and then like started to give a music. He had a song with, it's a song with him and,
01:31:13
Speaker
What's them two likes and niggas? They used to rap together. They both had love, but one of them had a lot fun though. Oh, Ray Shrummer? Yeah, he got a song by Ray Shrummer. And it's cute. It's very, very cute. It's also older, but it's a song I still vop to. It's good music, but I didn't forget about Drake's show on Hotomophobic Asking It, either. And it's also the same niggas who went and played with Frida in a fucking Nice For What video.
01:31:38
Speaker
It takes the whole Big Freedia song. The song is carried by Big Freedia. There is a whole intermission in the middle of the song that is Big Freedia.
01:31:54
Speaker
Girl. So, yeah. So, girl. So there's one last thing that is, you know, ended in an honor present.

Black Panther 2: Cultural Impact and Themes

01:32:07
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Okay, y'all had a lot to say. So here we go. Girl, we could have skipped something. Right! Shelly! Shelly, no. Shelly also agrees. Shelly agrees. Here's the thing. No, here's what I'm saying. Before I go to the last thing.
01:32:20
Speaker
If you want to do, girl, I guess, yourself and bring the topics here, you could do that. The neck is back. The neck is back. Neck in my back, sit the neck is back. Otherwise, you go, let me do my job. All right. What's next, Quita? So, no, enough. The last one is going to be
01:32:47
Speaker
So spoiler alert, if y'all have not watched the Black Panther sequel, Wakanda Forever, all of the niggas in this room have watched it. So weird. That includes Shelly. I'm up to date, y'all. Shout out to me. On this one movie, though, I'm sure they have not watched the other. Oh, I wasn't. One thing that I could girlize us, I could girlize, I guess I could leave right now. You do not. One thing y'all do not have to do
01:33:13
Speaker
She's worried yet again, worried about me. And it's fine. It's fine. And they can want to celebrate one thing and all the niggas throw tomatoes. Tomatoes, throw tomatoes. OK. So I was including us all here. But so we saw the Black Panther 2 sequel, Wakanda Forever. It is the last film in the MCU's Phase 4. So yeah.
01:33:42
Speaker
I'm not going to talk about my immediate thoughts first, but anyone else. But you should, because you want to be a girl like Guess Girl, so do your job. Do you not want to talk about it? No, you should. We can just close it out. You said, see, I'm tired. I'm tired. If you don't want to talk about it, it's Jesus. Anyway, what I would like to say, my first immediate thought,
01:34:07
Speaker
for my experience. Excuse me? Wait, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Now it's both of y'all. I'm tired. I'm tired. Oh, now it's both of us. It's everybody but you. It's everybody but you. It's everybody but you. I'm having this last name. I know you have wanted to come this way, but don't you worry about us. You want to come gather where we gather, because what? You love us. But what do you want to do? Act up, because you think that visitors are in this space. And one thing about it,
01:34:36
Speaker
One thing about it is I will be on the chat on this next episode. So everything y'all need to hear from me, I promise y'all it will have to be translated in another way. I will send a robot for y'all. What I will not come here for is the violence. This is the Lord's day.
01:35:00
Speaker
I want y'all to hear it one, I will have a conversation with the Lord and the Lord only. Okay, Shelly, me and you, me and you are going to talk about this. I want y'all to be very clear though. Shelly, me and you are going to talk about this. The violence was okay when it was me and Brea, but what Shelly got involved in about this issue. Me and Brea was even, it was okay because Shelly had a, that wasn't supposed to do with it. That wasn't their business, but now, I said Shelly shut up and I was like, uh-uh, fuck that, uh-uh. Because you think about it, I'm not about to shut up. Like, what?
01:35:30
Speaker
Whatever. Anyway. I didn't even do anything. I was standing outside of the boxing ring, and you jumped out of the ring to fight me. Hey audience. Take your battle in the ring. Hey, girlies at home. So I'm going to talk to you about my experience, because I don't know what's going on in this room. So I went to go see. I went to go. I went to go. I couldn't take a look on the oil spill. Oh my god.
01:35:59
Speaker
Can you not? I'm paying attention. I promise you, I'm paying attention. I went to go see Wakanda for every Friday night at 11pm. Okay.
01:36:09
Speaker
Did you take a nap before you went? I did not take a nap. I did not take a nap. What I did take was an edible. So that is just sitting. Oh, one time. And you watched it in 3D? We saw it in IMAX, actually. What does that mean? It's like the very large screen, the super huge screen that's really wide.
01:36:32
Speaker
So yeah, went to the city, got some snacks. This is probably a popular opinion, but absolutely bring as many snacks as you can muster. Oh, please, please. Every time. Y'all, it is a three, think about three hours. That is how long it takes to get to Maryland. It was long. That's how long it takes on a flight from here to Costa Rica. So yeah, I absolutely needed that.
01:37:01
Speaker
Also, this is me being high, right? I started feeling it when we was in the Walgreens, and I was like, oh, this is me looking at these chimps. I really, really need that. But we go to the movie theater, and first of all, I'm bugging because they started showing the Avatar trailer, like the Blue People Avatar trailer.
01:37:27
Speaker
And I'm just like, Whoa, this is like way too much going on right now. This is I don't know what the fuck the storyline. They showed a John Wick trailer first. And then I was like, they did. John Wick for us. Wow, this looks like cinema. That's crazy. And then and then they showed the avatar trailer and I was like, nah, this is too much stimulation for me. I got to relax. Okay. But, um, you know, of course, relax. What did you do to relax?
01:37:55
Speaker
I had to take some deep breaths because first of all, I'm in the IMAX. I'm like seat 24 in the middle of the row. There's like no escape for me. I can't like hop out if like there's too much stimulation. So I'm like, bitch, you gotta relax. You gotta like, you know, take some deep breaths. I'm eating my Twizzlers. Okay. I'm just like taking a moment. Um, and I'm like, Oh, if the visual effects get to be too much, I'm just gonna like center myself by looking at the seat in front of
01:38:21
Speaker
Um, that worked pretty much. Um, so, you know, the movie starts and we know that again, spoiler alert, if you haven't watched it starting now, um, you know, starts.
01:38:36
Speaker
And the drama starts within a millisecond. Immediately. And I was like, oh my god. You don't even get a chance to like, breathe? No. You should be running around the screen. And I'm like, what is happening? No, that's how I felt. I felt so scared. It's funny. It kind of felt like I saw it. I kind of felt like maybe something about the app. Because the way they started the movie wasn't like the regular like, Marvel shit. It was all chat with Boseman photos.
01:39:02
Speaker
Well, they did that after. No, they did it after. Shuri is panicking. Oh, I don't think they have heard. I don't think they have heard. No, it's a cold. You got to see it. It's a very hard start. It's a cold open. The movie cold opens to Shuri and the rest of her scientists in her lab. Panicking. Panicking. And again, me, hi. I'm like, oh my god, I'm in the room. I'm in the OR right now. But of course, it felt like it. It felt like it.
01:39:30
Speaker
And I'm just like, bro, what the fuck is going on? And, you know, obviously they're like revealing that T'Challa Chadwick's character.
01:39:40
Speaker
has undergone some unnamed illness. And Shuri is very desperately trying to find a solution. And we also, which I completely forgot that fucking Michael B. Killmonger did this. I completely forgot. He destroyed all of the food. I forgot that he destroyed all of the food. He destroyed what? He destroyed all of the food.
01:40:03
Speaker
all of the heart shapers, like where they like vibrating. Yeah. And like, that was also a thing too, because I remember that and I remember thinking like how it is because they only have one left and they gave that one. I did not remember that detail. They only had one left at the other women. They gave it to, they gave it to T'Challa, T'Challa to take because he was about to die. You know, he was in the snow and shit. And he got, got tossed over the bridge and shit by, by Killmonger. So like they gave, that was the last one they had and they gave it to him.
01:40:31
Speaker
So Shuri is at this point where she's been trying to replicate the heart-shaped curve. Hold on, y'all. We can't go through this. We are at an hour and 40 minutes. We cannot go through this entirely. OK. OK. But I'm trying to unpack the beginning, because you didn't remember the first part. OK, I mixed up one scene. I was like, nah, I forgot. That's crazy. Go ahead, sis. Do you want to? Go ahead. Go ahead. I'm just, you know. Go ahead.
01:41:02
Speaker
What were your thoughts about the film? Kitty cats are purring. Can I? Okay. All right. So Shuri is like replicating the heart-shaped herb and such, but it's too late and she's not able to like find a cure for T'challa.
01:41:32
Speaker
I was really, I thought that the funeral scene was very emotional, but it also felt like overwhelming, not like because of the drugs, but it felt like overwhelming because of that. But it felt like, you know, like it felt like, damn, like as Shuri and Queen Ramonda's characters, I'm like, oh my God, like this is like so much to like be, to like not have to be able to like sit with this person that you were very close with, like passing.
01:42:01
Speaker
And then everyone in Wakanda is just having this very, very beautiful display for him. But I was like, damn, that has to be a lot. When they turned to look at his mural, I was like, oh, that was a lot. And then it goes into the Marvel opening, which is where I cried. And it was the only point where I cried in the film. But where I cried was the Marvel
01:42:28
Speaker
that was focused on Chadwick. And that was- I cried at quite a couple of moments. You wanna share with folks all of those times you cried? I cried, again, spoiler alert, some already been given, so if you have not seen it, bitch, keep it pushing. So I cried at the beginning when Shuri, when Queen Ramonda comes, it's like, girl, it's too late, he gone.
01:42:55
Speaker
She said, well, she said, hey, what the ancestors now and that kind of take me, but then we're like, like also that cut to the funeral was really quick, right? Like there was no like in between, like it was like, oh, Sherry finds out and then the next scene is literally there at the funeral. And I was like, fuck. So cried about that. I cried when
01:43:17
Speaker
I'm trying to go in order. I cried when Queen Ramona died, obviously. I also cried when Shuri went to the ancestral plane and she ended up seeing... You cried at that? I'm gonna tell you why. Because Shuri had said something along the lines of like, my family didn't come for me. They didn't come for me. I did feel emotional.
01:43:46
Speaker
Okay. To be clear, Shuri has lost a brother, a father first, then a brother. Right. Unnecessarily her mother. Within a maybe what year or two timeframe. And I'm also like, cause the argument Kim was making was like, Oh, I don't believe, like, I don't think that you believe any ancestral parent like in the afterlife. I don't think that's the case. I think mama is grieving.
01:44:14
Speaker
And it's trying her best to salvage what she can and to keep it pushing and going while she's actively trying, like running a collect and became queen in a way that
01:44:27
Speaker
It's really fucked up, right? So imagine you, like, imagine you can visit your ancestors, you can sit in an ancestral plane and like, they're not waiting for you. It's a nigga that y'all, it's a nigga that y'all don't fuck with. And now all of a sudden he's offering you advice about who you want to be and how you should be here with situations. But that nigga's also dead on the ancestral plane by himself, not even with his daddy. That means Killmonger and his daddy are on two different areas of the ancestral plane. That is wild.
01:44:55
Speaker
Yeah, it was. And I thought it was so fucked up for her to have to watch her mother die and then have to turn around and do this, figure out how to do it, get the things together to do it. And then we don't even get like a solid like confrontation between the two of them. Her mother should have died in the first place. Right. But not just that. I feel like the way that they try to handle like her going to the central plane and be mad because I was like, so you lost her mother. There were no goodbyes. There were nothing. And like now you have an opportunity to talk to her. You're trying to tell us that like she can't do that.
01:45:26
Speaker
Yeah, I think there were a few things at least for me that felt like between that relationship was a little like, like there were gaps between the relationship and how they were talking about the two of them, like, even how
01:45:44
Speaker
we were seeing that the girl was going to survive and choke up some water, but Angela is over. And I'm just like, even watching that scene, I was just, that's when I start going into my very like sociology mind of being pulled out of the movie and being like, okay.
01:46:01
Speaker
This has to do with institutions in the real life, because this must be a Hollywood thing. Angela must have another gig. We don't know about this. There gotta be something that is happening because for it to happen in a sudden way where you're trying to have the mother there consoling and negotiating, the mother is teaching about ancestral things. You're learning about their connections to not only themselves and how they're having,
01:46:28
Speaker
a relationship amongst one another, but a relationship to the ancestors and then sis dies and becomes an ancestor, but she isn't even able to talk to her in that way. Like she taught her, she dies and then she's not able to practice the ancestral things.
01:46:44
Speaker
I think it relates to the way that like comics and like, not that this was like a Ryan Cooper thing, but that it's like just the way that like the comic industry kind of like handles their superheroes. It's just like everybody has to have like a super dramatic tragic backstory. They'd like if they're a young person, they don't really have support or like parents or whatever. And I was thinking like after the movie, it was reminding me of like, I don't know if I don't remember if y'all saw No Way Home.
01:47:14
Speaker
But it's reminding me of how they got rid of Aunt May. Why? I remember being like, this doesn't make sense. It doesn't, right? But the thing is that it's more like, not that it's just comic book accurate, but it's just like, oh, they need to give. They really stripped MCU, Tom Holland, Peter.
01:47:37
Speaker
of all of this stuff to kind of get him to this origin, back at this origin story that makes sense for who Peter Parker is. And Peter Parker is a person who loses these people that are significant to him. I remember Uncle Ben dying. I remember Uncle Ben dying. Because the MCU doesn't have an Uncle Ben equivalent, right? So a lot of the push, I feel like, that they put for comic book characters is that they have some
01:48:02
Speaker
traumatic experience. And usually it's like they lose somebody they love who dies. Like Ruby Williams, she loses, I think her dad and her mom are one of her close friends. Her mom's alive. Her dad is dead. Yeah, I haven't read the comics in a long time. But in the comics, they die because of a shooting or whatever.
01:48:22
Speaker
Um, and so like I've kind of saw it as like that, but I feel like it's like removed from like those things that you were talking about Shirley like the this like black experience that's like happening in the film where like, you know, like Shuri and Ramonda are like talking about being connected and like processing past grief and it's like not a tank taking account for those things instead it's just like Shuri has to go through
01:48:46
Speaker
But I'm also like, I'm like, to lose. And she's like, by herself. And now she has to do things by herself. And like, that's where comics try to take you to. I'm watching and I'm like, this also is fucked up because I really feel like, because even if, and we don't even get like a conversation about our relationship with her father, right? Because like, it really seems like that nigga was just there and he fucked with T'Challa and that was it.
01:49:10
Speaker
Um, it seems like the relationship that he had with Sherry was non-existent because that's who I thought was going to be on the throne when we turned around and got to the ancestral plane, but he wasn't even there. So I'm like, you're losing people left and right. And like, I can't, I can't sympathize or empathize because I feel like one, it wouldn't happen in the vacuum like this. You would have communities where you would have people around you. Right. And two, I feel like.
01:49:35
Speaker
It does feel very institutional and that like, especially like break down like black characters in this way. It also like a stereotype to be honest. Like we don't, like, we don't got no parents. People don't care about us. We just be out here in the streets. Like when you're younger, you just like, you know, like. Angry. Angry and misplaced the way we're telling. And even with Shuri like watching her, like obviously mama's gonna, the first time we saw her cry about Chadwick was at the end of this, Chadwick.
01:50:00
Speaker
about childhood at the end of this fucking movie when she was in there for an hour. The entire end. The entire end. We watched her be bitter, tried to kill them more. All that stuff happened, but we did not see her mourn her brother properly or in a way that I think made sense until the end. And then we found out- Until after the credits began. Yeah. Right. After the end.
01:50:20
Speaker
And I feel like I saw that as a critique of like, damn, like even in this sort of like idealized, you know, society, like damn, like black people, like still not making it or like having this space for grief or, you know, loss or whatever. The other critique that I saw that I also was like, oh girl, this is really the comic industry. And I don't know, like where we see ourselves out of that is just like the fact that the whole,
01:50:50
Speaker
So like, even though I loved the film, and I loved Ooh, Namor, and very much, very much. I love him and his people. I feel like the beef that I have with
01:51:07
Speaker
The MCU, but also like comics at large, because this happens in books very often is just like, there's no space for like, like, imagine what it would have been like if the black and brown people in this story would have actually been like, actually, vengeance is good. Like, let's team up and like, not fuck with these white people. Like, the the article that I read that I'm blanking on this person's name, and I'll find it and I'll share it when we post it, but
01:51:35
Speaker
She wrote about how the fact that the Wakanda revealed itself for people to
01:51:44
Speaker
for not for like Africa to like not there's no like allegiance with Africa that we really see Wakanda have between Black Panther and Black Panther II at all. But Wakanda reveals itself to like this white supremacist like United Nations and then like also magic gets fucked up because of that. And like, but like the moment where there's like one like this respectability politics moment of like, oh, don't do vengeance. Like,
01:52:10
Speaker
We're better than that sort of thing. That's some superman, white superhero type shit, but I feel like they put black comic characters into this respectability politics thing as well.
01:52:23
Speaker
Ooh, you should march and do these sorts of things, but violence is not the answer. I'm like, nigga, we're comic books, superheroes. Violence is always the answer. Why? Beat your ass. Beat your asses. What I was completely not a fan of, which that's why I was like, I'm going to hold my opinion when y'all said whatever you said about it anymore, is that I spent most of the movie pretty pissed off not saying that I did not enjoy watching it.
01:52:49
Speaker
But a good amount of the movie, I was pissed off because I'm just watching.
01:52:54
Speaker
I cried, I think when I was having that moment seeing them even have a conversation at the beginning around indigenous folks, around Namor's mother, all of that stuff. When he comes up from the water, it reminded me of the deep. It's all these things that I'm just like, wow, I love this. This is really doing a thing. But then when they made that nigga beef with all the Wakandans and most of the movie then becomes a war,
01:53:23
Speaker
I said, I hate this because then we call the colonists like, hey, colonists friend, what are you doing? Hey, we're going to break you out of jail, but we're not about to pull up on France. Why would we not pull up on France? I would have rather the grata-ta-ta instead of killing thousands of Wakandans. Not even just Wakandans.
01:53:56
Speaker
Why were they dying? Also, it's telling to me that I feel like this is the route where they took. So I have two communities of color be at each other's throats like this in a movie where they could have had a very different. And I don't know. White men at the beginning of slaughtering. Yeah.
01:54:22
Speaker
I was gonna say I feel like that's the thing with like comic book history and also just like the MCU very steeped in like the military industrial complex and all of these other things like they're not gonna have
01:54:32
Speaker
Like Black and Brown, they're not gonna make a movie essentially. And this is what that like article that this person was writing about was that it sucks that they're not gonna make a movie about like Black and Brown people, like marginalized people coming together and like fighting back against their oppressors. Like Disney and all these niggas not gonna allow that. And it just sucks that like we can't see what could have happened if like, you know. Because even like, even at the end of the movie no more is like,
01:54:58
Speaker
It's not over yet. They'll come to us for help and you'll watch. You'll see it. You'll see it. I'm like, you should have took that nigga out. He was a problem in the beginning. We should have wiped the slate clean with my homeboy and it's been done with this shit. Because now it's going to be a situation where whenever we get another movie, I'm sure he'll be in something else. And so I'm sure he will probably make me too.
01:55:21
Speaker
I don't want to go back to this, right? I don't want to come back to the storyline. I think it's a fucked up one and it's a shitty one. And I also feel like one of the things I thought about too was like the reinforcement that like, one, people are angry, which is some bullshit, but two, that like we have, that black folks have other people, other communities of color. And like, we're the ones that be like the, like we be out here like starting shit. And I'm like, one, that's not true. And like two,
01:55:46
Speaker
This is fictional, but it feels like there's a message here specifically about how communities of color are engaging with each other. And I'm like, I also don't think that the people who wrote this are the folks who should be talking about how about people that interact with anybody else. That's literally what I was thinking. Once I finished it, I was like, what this looks like.
01:56:03
Speaker
for all this box office sales, all this stuff with as many people that saw it. I said, I want to know what people's perception is because the number of people that I was with that I experienced, they're like, I loved it. I loved the movie. And I'm like, not to take away from y'all love and how people are feeling about it, but to see the violence that is happening at this current state.
01:56:25
Speaker
of the world, of life, of mental states of people to see a movie that is three hours long, that at least probably collectively an hour of that is either strategizing for a war between Indigenous and Black people, or it actually is a war. It's not a representation that I am begging to see. I promise you my kid is not going to see this.
01:56:49
Speaker
It's not going to be something that I'm like, holds on to this because it meant something to me that I need you to hold on to. It's not doing it. The war is not doing it for me. No, it wasn't great. It wasn't great. I mean, I saw for it and I like enjoyed like the aspects of like sitting with it for, you know, thinking about
01:57:18
Speaker
I don't know, I feel like I saw it for like what it was as far as like thinking about loss and like an actual person for us to lose and like what does that mean for like the world that was created that he was a part of. And I feel like, yeah, I feel like
01:57:37
Speaker
I don't know, I definitely kind of just looked at it through a lens of like, I know that Disney is not going to make this kind of movie. So I know I peep where this is going to go. But yeah, I was just, you know, thinking about the Namor and the indigenous peoples very much thinking about the deep and thinking about what could have been really.
01:58:02
Speaker
Yeah, I would have loved to have seen when the war was actually killing those white people too. It's just many parts of the movie that there was no white person harmed visually.
01:58:16
Speaker
And that's the thing that I'm not a fan of. Well, there were some. There were some. And I think that... How about I say, do my face show them dying? The people that were walking off the ship in the beginning? When they first showed up to sort of show their powers and shit, they would sing. First of all, I was high and they were singing and I was just tripping. I was just like, bro. No, that's what I'm saying. The jump off the boat, I understand that.
01:58:39
Speaker
But the part of the black people, the indigenous folks, and there are spears going through their chests, very violent stabbings and killing of them. But it was like when the white people died, there was some, like they cut to the scene of something else and the war does all this wild stuff and then they're all on the ground and the building's on fire. I'm like,
01:59:02
Speaker
The helicopter going down. We didn't even see it. We saw it, but we didn't really see that shit. We just saw that shit. We saw the air one minute. You got it? It was in the air one minute, and then the next minute it was just like in the water. It was gone, and then the communicator cut out. Right. And then we were like, um.
01:59:20
Speaker
So we're not going to see her like, right. I mean, we're not going to get beat up. Right. Or I mean, I mean, maybe they captured and tortured her. Like, what's it giving? Because I was also a capture and torture would be fine with me as well. That also did not happen. But specifically her white whore. Right.
01:59:40
Speaker
Because she thought she was going to get away. And then she said, and then they said, who is it? She was like, it's the fucking Wakandans. And I was like, that's not right. I'm like, that's not right. And that too, the conflation, the conflation of how people, I think, see all of people of color as one particular, one phrase, one group of people. Because that wasn't the first time somebody had complained about the Wakandans with these other folks. I'm like, wait, y'all haven't seen these people. No, they don't look like the Wakandans. They don't look like the Wakandans. They were just like, oh, these niggas got vibranium. So it's just.
02:00:10
Speaker
And I was like, okay, so did we all see the... They turn underwater when they're blue, but they're still the one caused. Right. And I'm like, that's not even accurate. Like, what are we talking about? So we all look the same. All people of color look the same. Thank you so much for your support. When I saw that white woman running up the steps to the helicopter, I said, wow, they really have funded money. I mean, yes, I know this, but I'm like, wow.
02:00:33
Speaker
white people really steal shit. They strategize to steal stuff. And then when they're under attack or when they're losing, they're like, they're coming to attack us. They want to kill us. I'm like, you were under water where you didn't belong, Robin, niggas. And you said, why are they coming for us? Like, girl. That was, wow.
02:00:58
Speaker
Yeah, but I have no more to give to the white people or whatever they were doing for that movie. Well, I would like to see no more in his people again, but I would like to see them in an even more destructive capacity. I again, you know, the fuck alone. I know that like the
02:01:22
Speaker
I know the way that these Western movies operate. Disney is very much like, ooh girl, we're not gonna rock the boat too much. We gave you some blacks and browns and this is what you get. They're brighter than the queer too.
02:01:36
Speaker
I would like, because, um, two of the normal logic, they apparently are in a relationship and I guess it was a millisecond. We're like, was that gay? There aren't like queer characters in the comic in the comic, but I didn't know no shot, but the one that is the queer one in the comic.
02:02:00
Speaker
was the one in the movie, I believe, that was like... Well, yes. I think that's something you're supposed to be saying. Yeah, but I feel like it was giving very much not. Yeah, but the way that it was done with the forehead kiss and the slide, you know, I was like, oh, just like the people were like, oh, I remember when Avengers Endgame came out, everyone was like, oh, my God, it's gonna be a gay character. That white boy that was supposed to be gay, the gay character, was in a movie for literally 0.3 seconds. Who was gay? Remember, there was a guy at the beginning of Endgame
02:02:28
Speaker
America's ass was the therapist, the fake therapist, whatever, he was talking to people in like the circle and there was a white guy who was talking about how he went on a date with somebody and they cried at the dinner and there was another guy at the table that he did a little bit. I don't even remember this person. I remember the circle.
02:02:45
Speaker
He was talking about random extra. Oh my god, it's a gay person in the show. And we'd be like, that's not, that's not representation. Who is he? That's not even a person. The script literally says random encircle. I was like, that's not, that's not the representation you think it is. And people were like so excited. And I was like, that's not enough.
02:03:10
Speaker
It's not enough. It's not enough. They're making it enough. That's what they told us. They're making it enough. They're making it enough. And it's not OK. They said, you niggas want to stay mad forever because we don't give a fuck.
02:03:22
Speaker
But yeah, but anyway, like for what it was, I definitely just enjoyed being able to cry about Chadwick for your

Marvel's Future and Representation

02:03:29
Speaker
time. And I feel like that's just what I'm taking. I deeply was also like- And also I really did enjoy the performances. So that's- I wanna say, I'm not gonna hold you. There were moments in the movie where I feel like Sherry was not giving me enough.
02:03:49
Speaker
I feel like there were moments where I feel like Angela was giving and Lupita was giving and Okoye, I forgot her real name, Okoye was giving, thank you, was giving and like the girls were really performing the House Down boots. And I feel like Shuri was like, girl I guess. And it was funny too, cause I felt like
02:04:12
Speaker
I feel like we, I feel like I knew sure everything was going to end up being Black Panther. I didn't think that was a secret, but they kind of make it, they try to make it sound like she wasn't going to be Black Panther. I'm like, well, who else is it going to be? I mean, I don't know why people thought it was going to be somebody else. Yeah, I was like, who else was it going to be? I wasn't even thinking there was going to be one. I was like, do, I thought it was going to be like, like Woman King or something where they're just like, we're going to get Dora Milaje to tear y'all up. And there is no Black Panther. No, I didn't think that because I think the Dora Milaje are getting their own sort of,
02:04:41
Speaker
serious, maybe. Which I thought this was that. No, no, it's like, it's like a television series. I'm just like, I also will say Marvel has been giving me a lot overall. And I'm just really overwhelmed by all the shit that they've been putting out and I haven't been keeping up with a lot of it.
02:05:01
Speaker
So I haven't seen, I haven't seen a lot of things. I haven't seen a lot of things either. And I'm not probably, I'm not gonna rush, but I'm not gonna rush. I will not be watching She-Hulk. I don't care what the girls say. I'm not watching She-Hulk. It was just okay. Yeah. I'm not watching She-Hulk. I'm not watching, um, I might, I may go back and watch
02:05:20
Speaker
What's his face? Hawkeye? I may go back and watch that. It wasn't right. But I'm probably not going to. I didn't watch Black Widow's movie either because I felt like you're fucking lame. I didn't watch that. I'm not going to watch that. You're lame. That should have happened. She should have had her own origin movie before. I didn't care about that when it was going to be a thing. I just feel like Black Widow was not an interesting character to me. See, I love Black Widow.
02:05:45
Speaker
But I also feel like, for me, if you're going to do origin stories, the rest of these men got origin stories at the beginning of the MCU. And you gave Black Widow a movie after the fact that Bitches already did. Like, I just don't, like, even if you don't like her as a character, right? To me, I just like that some fuck shit. Because all these other male characters were able to get these origin stories and stuff beforehand. Yeah, I mean, I didn't care. I didn't care anyway. Yeah, it's already, we already passed that time.
02:06:15
Speaker
But yeah, so yeah, I didn't see Ms. Marvel. Did I see that either? There's something else I didn't see. Oh, I never saw Captain Marvel in such related things. Oh, the movie? Yeah. Oh, I liked it. But I also like... I didn't see Shang-Chi either. I heard that was a right. It was actually good. I liked it. It was very... It was so... I loved it. Maybe I'll take that. Maybe I'll take that. I feel like I missed. Then it goes fine.
02:06:43
Speaker
I heard that actor is not great, like as a person. Oh, what did he, damn it? It's in that. Oh, no. What did he do? Sometimes you have to surprise. What did he do? I mean, the girl, I have to. Because he was a fun fact. He was also in Rihanna's Vinci show. Oh, I feel like I may have heard that. I don't know. What did he do? I just.
02:07:08
Speaker
Yo, what? Can you sum it up? No, because I don't feel like summing up anything else. But... That was tired. I am. But yeah, I don't know. I feel like there are things happening in phase five and maybe I'll revisit to see what's planned, but... I'm also like, are we gonna get back to... I know how some of the girls weren't particularly feeling... What was it called? Fuck.
02:07:37
Speaker
It was the one movie that came out of this for this phase. People were like, like, people were like, Oh, Eternals? Cause I love this. Yeah. Okay. So are we going to come back to the phase five? Because I need us to come back. I need us to come back to the, to the turn. That's my top three niggas can fight me. And Brian Tommy Henry looks so delicious. Um, some things I'm just going to throw out some things. Ant-Man on the Wasp is I guess the first thing in.
02:08:00
Speaker
Oh, yeah, cuz cuz I saw Cain the Conqueror and I was like, damn, I'm excited for that. I definitely want to see. Wait, so what is on black man, black man from the country, Lovecraft country? What's his name?
02:08:17
Speaker
Jonathan Major. Jonathan, what is his role in Ant-Man? He is playing a character called Kang the Conqueror. He's a villain. He's just like an alien with a big conqueror stuff. Yeah, I know he's fine, but I was very confused when I saw his face appear. I said, whoa, baby.
02:08:34
Speaker
What are you doing here? I am ready. His character first showed up in the Loki series. Which I watched because I actually love Loki. I think it is kind of important to see, to like know kind of what's happening. I also love Loki and I'm hoping that we see more of him. That was one of my favorite things. WandaVision, I enjoyed. WandaVision, Concompetition, Contebrink, which I'm on the mission. Come to bumpy, pump the pump fiction. To the cat, kitty cat, kitty cat. Speaking of that, OK. So the things that are happening are Ammon and the Wasp Quantum Mania,
02:09:02
Speaker
Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 3, I don't think I saw Vol. 2, so I'm probably not going to watch that. I haven't watched Vol. 3 only because I feel like Patista said he was coming back. Something called the Marvels that I don't entirely know everything about. Another Captain America film, New World Order, that's with Mega Bird.
02:09:24
Speaker
Um, thunderbolts and the blade movie though. I think that's being pushed back because there's a whole lot of production. I'm not sure what happened out. Well, I think like there's some disagreements between, um, what's his name? The actor. Oh my God. Marcela. Yes. Like, I don't know. It's like, it's like some things like, like disagreements about like shit and whatever. I don't know. Tell Marcela we need him to be fucking blade.
02:09:51
Speaker
I don't know. I just feel like maybe the girls are stretched too far, too thin, because it seems like they're doing too much. Y'all need to give Blade some time, all right? Then for series, there's Secret Invasion, Echo, which I don't know what that is. I think Loki's coming back. The Ironheart series is coming out, which Riri made her first appearance in this movie. I really enjoyed the comics, so I'm excited for that. And I like the actress.
02:10:19
Speaker
She's very, she's very bronxy. Can we argue? She is very bronxy. Very bronxy. Agatha Coven of Chaos is coming out. And I've heard that there are a good couple of niggas that I enjoy that are going to be in that. So nice.
02:10:35
Speaker
And then Daredevil, they're like continuing the Daredevil series, I think maybe, so. Are they? Yeah. With the same actor? I don't know. I don't know if it is like a remake or something or like continuing where they were at all times. Raymond X-Men, I'm tired. Where's Storm? They're not going to do that yet. They're not going to do that yet. They literally just mentioned mutants in this movie. They did. They did. He was like he was a mutant. And I was like. Everybody clapped. Everybody clapped in my opinion.
02:11:04
Speaker
He said, I was a mutant. I said, so in the more the first mutant we're getting introduced to, also is he an actual mutant from X-Men or did they make him a? Well, it's not like a mutant from X-Men. It's not like everybody's a mutant from X-Men. It's just like, this is a world where mutants exist. He's just the first one that, I don't think he's not like an X-Man or something. Oh, cause I was like, they said a mutant. I was like, where are the other mutants? Where are the others? You know, they also, cause people were joking about, this is my last thing.
02:11:34
Speaker
Namor, like also like Susan Storm who's like married to like Mr. Fantastic in the Fantastic Four like Green Richers. Like Namor in the comics, Namor and Susan Storm are always like having a thing like she breaks up and like she goes with Namor and she be like having a whole affair relationship.
02:11:54
Speaker
But niggas were cool niggas were saying like this thing more would not want no white ass like at all he is indigenous he's like get that common arts and white bitch out of here come from under the water and literally bring an ocean over her head and i said i heard there was a fan cast for nicole bahari um
02:12:12
Speaker
I don't know. I don't know if I made that up. I heard that as a fan cast. And I was like, I would love that and eat that up. I would love her as soon as I was a woman. I want more of Nicole Berry, whatever we can get her at. In everything. The way that she acted and ate the fuck out of that scene when it was her and Anthony Mackie together, and it was at the table. She was just like...
02:12:33
Speaker
And she was like, do you still love me? Is it me? Is it me anyway? So you used to walk past me in the kitchen, head on my back. You don't let me anymore. Right. She was like. She was selling it. The acting was it. The acting was it. I want more. Thank you.
02:12:48
Speaker
Um, so yeah, lots of things happening in phase five. So we'll see, we'll return to more Marvel talk. That is it. Right. Cause bitch it is two for every hour. We went an hour. It's two o'clock in one hour time y'all. If you're wondering what time it is. That is not true y'all. It's not. It's not true. That's two p.m. That's two a.m. to the elders. Surely acting like we holding them hostage. Right. My ancestors actually, my ancestors are on the altar like, so I'm hungry.
02:13:18
Speaker
period. And I am of that same energy. The gag is, I think it's hard. You don't know what you're about to eat. Wow. I'm not gonna feed them that.
02:13:30
Speaker
I'm not giving them that shit. I can't stand when I gotta have a struggle thing or I gotta explain to them. I'm sorry, y'all, but y'all cannot. This is all we got. Yeah, I'm not fighting with y'all about how you didn't like it, because I just feel like they always do that. You just, I'm not gonna put a, I'm not gonna put it on y'all. They might use them petty because you gave them some craft making. Yes, yes, and I just don't trust it. Y'all not about to be arguing with me over the fact that you didn't like the seafood salad that I found at the grocery store and I should have made it by hand. I'm not doing that, so you get nothing today.
02:13:57
Speaker
I like a good seafood. I will feed them before I leave, though, because I'm coming back to Virginia on the 20th. So I'm going to do a big spread before I go. And hopefully that's enough for them to hold them over. So I get back in January. Hold you over, period.
02:14:16
Speaker
Um, any last thoughts? No, bye y'all. Shit. Two hours and 14 minutes. Y'all. Speaking on Valentine's day. Love you. Okay. We can leave it at 2.13. No, we can't. I thought about something too. Cause I feel like only the same eight people listen to us. So like, if you make it this far, shout out to you.
02:14:35
Speaker
Yay. I love that. Because I really feel like we don't got a listeners for real. You. My number one. Besides like y'all peoples, and then like maybe one of my friends, maybe. First of all, we need to make your friends like listen. Who's friends? Do all of your friends listen? I don't have a lot of friends. OK, but I know that you have at least five. I do feel like I shared with them, so. Are they listening?
02:15:04
Speaker
I don't know. I can't say that. Shay, are your friends listening? I can't say that. One thing about my friends is that I put it in front of them. No, no, no, no. This is all that I'm going to say. I be telling them they should listen, and I constantly will... They've been around during the episodes, everything. Then I'll be like, send me the link. Send me the link.
02:15:21
Speaker
So I don't know if it really counts as a listen, because I don't trust that there always will listen. So I end up playing it around them sometimes. So it'll be played from me. It'll be like, oh, listen to this. Tell them they got to follow. That's what will make it count. Yeah, it's like I'll play it for them. They'll be like, oh, what are y'all talking about? And like, I'll just play it from my phone. We have one listener, and that is, is that your God sister?

Listener Acknowledgment and Episode Wrap-up

02:15:51
Speaker
Oh, yes, yes, she sucked in. That is the only one that probably listen to us regularly. I'm waiting for an episode. Okay, yeah, I see this episode is for you. I'm about to say, I just want to point out that we're not popping like that, y'all. But anyway, now we can go. So you, instead of letting it be lovely at 214,
02:16:11
Speaker
We let it be stinky at 2.16, just to say our country is stinky. That's the energy we're bringing. And that we're not locked in. I think it's fun for us, but I'm like, you know, as far as like us being, I'm like, if you get this far in the episode, you do like, you know, you do, you speed us up to two times to get through the two hours and 16 minutes. I'm not gonna listen to the whole thing. This is what we have to be remembering. There are times outside of us, they may not be paying attention to us now. This is shorter than the film that we was just talking about.
02:16:41
Speaker
But it's also the longest episode we have ever done. Is it? I don't believe that's true. It is. I don't think so. This is embarrassing. OK, let's go. Anyway, bye. Bye, bitches.