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The Episode About Baldwin's 2nd Generation
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Ty and Bria talk about the end of Baldwin's 2nd Generation.
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Transcript
Introduction and Rebranding
00:00:01
Speaker
Oh my god, we're back! Ooh, ooh. Look at us. We're in this bitch, you know? Multiple bitches. We're in multiple bitches. Yeah, so welcome. If you don't know, now you know. It's the pussy. Next time. We are your hosts. I am a Berea.
00:00:28
Speaker
Um, I'm Tyrell, also known as Ty, formerly known as the baddest bitch you've ever met. And I say formerly because I have a new body now. You know, they were menage with the old body. What? All right. I don't know. Okay. I don't know what all that was. Okay. Well, yeah, this is the pussy next time. This is our podcast, you know, um,
00:00:57
Speaker
And I guess to preface the conversation, um, we can say that, you know, we are the artists formerly known as the directors of awkward segregation. Um, and, you know, this episode is about what happened with that. And it's just about, you know, new beginnings and changing seasons.
00:01:27
Speaker
And y'all can't see, I'm laughing because of Ria's face and you can't, people can't see it. And I just wish that y'all could see the dynamic. I'm just giving, I'm giving like, I'm just trying to explain the dimensions through which. I think not the dimensions through which is giving academia. It's giving, right? It's giving a conversation.
00:01:54
Speaker
about, yeah, like just. It's giving me PhD, it's giving me the dissertation tease. How do you slide off for that? Let me stop. OK, so I'm going to say that.
Community and Summit Challenges
00:02:08
Speaker
So OK, I mean, this conversation is so first of all, this this moment has been coming for a while. But I think that specifically having this conversation,
00:02:22
Speaker
on like the podcast was like, I literally texted Bria maybe like yesterday or maybe before. It was like, ooh, this is the podcast I think we should cover because I think that there's a lot of stuff I want to say and that I haven't been able to say on social media because I've been trying to keep it cute. And also things that I wanted to say that I think will like lend themselves to other people who want to make spaces like this.
00:02:43
Speaker
Um, so like to sum it up, uh, Baldwin second generation is a longer in existence. Um, if you follow our Instagram page that you see Baldwin's second generation, which is now, um, the busy next time we like act like our posts from like Baldwin's are gone. Um,
00:03:02
Speaker
discussions, I saved a couple lives and stuff, but for the most part, like everything else is gone. The name change is taking place across multiple platforms. And we're done, right? We're big done. And I thought it was, yeah, getting good to have a conversation about it. So like, where do, I know where I wanna start. Where do you wanna start? I mean, I was just gonna start by like explaining, I don't know, the effort through which bitches have been working hard for the past.
00:03:32
Speaker
three years or whatever. So you know, I mean, yeah, I was just gonna say for people who didn't know, Baldwin Second Generation started an effort led by Tyrell in creating this space for Black queer folks to gather and to be able to find community with one another. And you know, we started by hosting
00:03:59
Speaker
the only in person summit that we've been able to have. But the first the first summit, it wasn't a drag. It's not you know, there was there was a pandemic that happened after this. I feel like
00:04:14
Speaker
But, you know, the first in-person summit took place in Connecticut. It took place in an area where we felt like, hey, like, you know, the girls, it's hard to find, you know, the girls, the girlies who look like us, and to be able to connect and such. So we wanted to be able to create that space and play, especially, you know, that was the time we created the space somewhere where like it might be hard for people to be able to connect or whatnot.
00:04:43
Speaker
You know, and it happened, and it was a thing. And, you know, the people who showed up showed up, and that was fun. You know, I feel like, okay, because this is... I'm not gonna hold y'all. I'm finna spill a lot of tea. I'm not gonna spill everything, because if I spill it too much, I'm gonna have to fight the girls in the streets.
00:05:02
Speaker
But I'm going to spill some tea. So I think, so let's talk about it. So ball with second generation actually happened. Like the first one, April 27th, 2019, that very first one happened in Hartford, Connecticut.
00:05:14
Speaker
At the time I was living in Hartford, I had an idea and had been talking about it for a while and then got a job at another organization where I was able to wrap that into my role. And so it ended up getting funded because I was working with an organization that allowed me to turn that into work that was a part of my job for the community outreach. And of course it worked.
00:05:36
Speaker
It's really funny because there were people in the community who really did not fuck with me like the long way, like really had beef with me about my gender expression, about like how aggressive I was and how I was like this big black man. And if we all know I am nobody's man, my energy has never given man and has never ever, ever in my life given cis man. Even when I was a kid, it was giving who's that girl, very EBE. Like it was never giving
00:06:02
Speaker
Oh, you said that dress. I said EVE, that dress. Eve, who's that girl? Not a white woman on Black History Month. My God. No, that's her fave. So I feel like that's it. OK, that's not what the episode is for. We can have another argument later on down the line about being a white baby peach. I don't care. New Girl is great, and I love Nick. New Girl is great, and I love Nick.
00:06:25
Speaker
Okay, we did not. Anyway, so yeah, it happened to her friend. It's funny because a lot of people ended up not showing up because I was the person I put the space on. And it was a lot of beef with me that was happening in other communities that I wasn't aware of until after the summer had finished.
00:06:42
Speaker
That was interesting, too, because the same people who were like, I'm going to come, I'm going to show up, are the same people who had beef with me, and also ended up not showing up, but then also complained all the time about how there was no room and no spaces for us. And I was like, well, here's the thing. Your beef you have with me is laughable at best, right? Because it's not actual beef as you being problematic and ignorant. That ain't my business.
00:07:07
Speaker
Um, and then other like rumors that's going around about how I had still beside here from somebody else. And it was also reason why people didn't show up. Girl, we just, it wasn't cute. Um, and that was also really interesting because we had a group of five members who helped put the first summit together and a different group of five, of four members who helped put the second summit together. Um,
00:07:31
Speaker
And that experience was interesting too, because the first summit was, it went well, it was a lot. So if you came to the first summit, I don't...
00:07:46
Speaker
Somebody stormed out and left very dramatically. And they tried to drag us on social media. Somebody, the artist that we used was supposed to show up and ghosted us a month before the event and never said why. And I still remember his name and it's still a big side-eye to him, but I'm not going to blast him either because it's rude.
00:08:08
Speaker
And his artwork is very beautiful, like his artwork is very, very, it was like the, what we were able to like come up with for our pamphlet was because of his artwork and it looks so good. And the person who also handled, was supposed to handle the situation with him, you know what? It was a lot. Yeah, it was a lot. It was a lot going on behind the scenes. Right. And so I feel like that was the very first summer that we had where like,
00:08:32
Speaker
We pulled something together and something amazing came out of it. And shout out to the folks, because of course, me and Bria conceded to work together. Me and other folks no longer work together. But shout out to the folks who were in the very first cohort of the summit, who were on the first committee, because a lot of stuff happened. And though I only speak to two of those people, the rest of them I'm very grateful for, because I got to build up something that I had been dreaming up in my head and in my heart for a very long time.
00:08:59
Speaker
It's really hard to do. I feel like doing, putting all of that together, bitch. When I tell y'all, it was going to look at like spaces. On FaceTime. We weren't even in first place. We weren't all in the same place. It was looking at spaces. It was fucking having the money, getting catering, trying to figure out what's most accessible for people to be able to get to.
00:09:27
Speaker
Oh my gosh. Parking. Oh, parking. Parking was a lie. Parking is like, and that's the thing, right? So this, so the place we use, actually I want to shout them out. If you're ever in Hartford and if they ever start taking people like like events again, the Lyceum.
00:09:43
Speaker
And Hartford, Connecticut is a really great place to use. They're really affordable. I love the space for something else, like that we had, it was like smaller, but we had like breakout sessions and stuff. So that was funny too. But it worked. It really worked. I keep thinking like it works so well. We did such a good job putting that together, making it make sense. Random thought. I just really remember my memories of the summit is you like coming in the morning with like,
00:10:10
Speaker
took a donuts very mad, very upset, tired. I was so I think I was in the middle of some I was in the middle of somebody's panel. And then we were talking about not having utensils for the food. So I think you were doing something. So I like took your car. I took your car to go to the dollar general.
00:10:37
Speaker
Like, and I feel bad because worse than that. Like if you recall, like people got, um, so Brianna went around the corner with my car to Donna General, which, and I know where you ended up going. And if the parking was trash or you had like, like dry, like it was, it wasn't great. Right. And it was, um, a lot, but.
00:10:55
Speaker
I had to send Aaron, who was like our marketing person, I had to send Aaron back home to my house because I had forgot the tilt with everybody's gift cards and their t-shirts and all their goodies for the presenters. So I had to send Aaron and Kamani back to my house to pick up, and that was a 30 minute drive. That was a 30 minute drive. They are in back.
Virtual Summit and Podcast Evolution
00:11:16
Speaker
Aaron was like, bitch, you owe me B. I'm like, absolutely. Yes. Yes. I owe you yes. But yeah, I really am grateful to those people who were on that committee with us because it was so, and mind you, some of us, because Bria was in Jersey, I was in Connecticut, and then partially VA, and then back in Connecticut, and then two other people, one of them was in Waterbury, one of them was in, I think at the time, Hartford,
00:11:44
Speaker
And it was like a lot, a lot, a lot. And I remember just being like, bitch, I'm exhausted. And if I'm being honest, my memories of that day are very like, they're not, I didn't get to enjoy the space that I created because I was the person who put the space together. So every time there was an issue, people were coming directly to me. And I remember being like, there's a committee of four other niggas in here, please.
00:12:14
Speaker
All of these other niggas are here. Tyrell, where the chairs go? Tyrell, what's up? Tyrell, someone's upset and they're packing their shit to leave. And I'm just like, what is happening? Oh, my gosh. Well, get out. It's real. I am putting on an event. It is. And I don't think, like, the amount of time and energy, like, again, it was a lot, right? And so, again, I'm grateful to those people that were on our committee because I really do stand by the work that we did with the first one and the second one, too, and partially the third.
00:12:48
Speaker
Yeah, so the second one right let's have a lot of memories because because okay so the second one was planned was slated for like August because we were like, Oh, we wanted to do a thing and we were working with something for the summertime and we wanted to people on our committee as um
00:13:05
Speaker
It was very well known, and we wanted to do something, because they have their own programming, and we wanted to do some programming with them. We wanted to be at night, and we wanted to be able to shake ass. And they do both of those things. They shake ass at night and charge the girls in the door. So we were like, oh, this is perfect. And it was stated for August 23, or something, 2020. And at this time, I was working at my job, at the org I was working at, and I had gotten a grant. So they had all of the funding that we needed was rolled into the grant, because I had written a budget.
00:13:33
Speaker
And I actually written a budget that was too big, and I knew it was too big. So I was like, I'm going to add to my dream budget for this if I could just spend all the money I could or wanted to pay whoever I wanted to pay. And it came out to like, I want to say it was like 15 G's. And they gave me like, I think it was like 20 or something. So I had more money than they did. And I also knew that in that dream budget, depending on what happened, we wouldn't use it all. And we weren't going to use it all. So yeah, I ended up like,
00:14:04
Speaker
We had, so it was four of us on the committee this time. Three of us had returned and we had one new person. So it was three of us from the old committee, one person from the new committee. And this committee worked a lot better.
00:14:16
Speaker
We knew each other from last time. One of the people that was on the committee had actually presented before, so that was great. We had put all this work in. Everything was going well. We had put a deposit on our venue. Everything was possible. Everything was ready. The after-party space was being created.
00:14:37
Speaker
And then COVID hit in March. And I went on, I remember going on vacation. I was like, yes, I put everything in place for the summit. When we come back, it'll just be like odds and ends and marketing stuff. And then I never went back. We just never came back. And I was so upset because I wanted to pay
00:14:58
Speaker
The people who have been working on this so badly because we had all done so much and all of our work had just fallen, like just fallen to the wayside. So we had to schedule a virtual session, but I was able to pay folks before, before my job did a thing and I ended up like going to Virginia and being furloughed. So, um, we ended up changing to a virtual summit and that happened in May.
00:15:26
Speaker
And that was a thing. That was a thing that happened, you know? That was a thing. I remember the live with Josh because it was really, really well done. That was really nice. It was well done. And I remember...
00:15:43
Speaker
I remember one of the workshops because we ended up having people. So also I want to point out that same weekend, a black person had been killed and everybody was like in the streets protesting. And so we had planned, we had planned the date for this event. Um, I want to say it was like the, like the week of like mother's day or something, or I can't, it was a weekend after something like that. Like the weekend after.
00:16:09
Speaker
And I remember being so excited and everybody was like, so the people that I knew that were coming in were like organizing stuff, they all were out. And I was like, we had maybe 75 registrations for the virtual one. And most of those people were organizers and activists. So when this thing happened and everybody was mobilizing their communities and going to protests, we lost 60 people.
00:16:35
Speaker
And I was like, this is not happening! Like, so... The one thing I do remember was like...
00:16:45
Speaker
And maybe, you know, this fed into what became the podcast. Because I feel like the one thing I remember, I feel like at the end we did some like sort of bullshit hot topics, whatever the fuck. Yeah, that was me. That was just not like a planned, like, panel thing. No, I was done. So I was getting there. You were just like, bitch, I'm just bullshit. I was getting there.
00:17:11
Speaker
The second thing I remember was the person that was supposed to do the workshop also ended up going to protests and ended up canceling during the actual workshop, during the workshop that was happening prior. So we were in a group chat, like, oh my gosh, what are we supposed to do? How are we supposed to fix it? I'm like, you know what, y'all? Fuck it. I'm going to bullshit it. Fuck it, fuck it, fuck it.
00:17:34
Speaker
So I was like, let's just do a Q hot topics. And it was funny because the first, like the live had like 50 people in it. And then, and I think the total number was like a hundred and something people like that had came in and out. And then the other workshop had like nine people in it. And then mine had like 20 something. And I was like,
00:17:56
Speaker
Where did all these people come from? And also, like, why are we all keying about BS? And I remember, like, covering over, like, an hour, 40 times an hour of me just talking about raggedy shit and, like, Kiki and with the girls. And the girls are weak. Right. And I do think that that was because people, I had, someone had mentioned you started a podcast before, and I was, like, absolutely not. It's saturated. Oh, my girl, we have the read. We got Kieferri and Crystal. We don't read nobody else. And then here we are, right? Like, a year and a half later.
00:18:25
Speaker
where I'm like, actually? Doing precisely that. Podcasts like, bitch. So that was the second summit.
Nonprofit Work and Community Critique
00:18:33
Speaker
And in the third summit, we were planning for it to be in Atlanta. And there was an after party going to happen with one of my favorite drag queens. We were going to try to. Taylor Alexander. Yeah. They were going to pull together some reason. It was going to be dope, right? It was going to be great. They were going to do some things. We were going to do a party after party thing after the summit this year. And we canceled and shut all that shit down.
00:18:56
Speaker
Now, recapping all of the shit that happened, the questions people may have was like, why didn't we actually go through with this summer? And why is Baldwin's just randomly dissolved after all this time? Would you like to start, babe? Would I like to start? I mean, I think just in my opinion, after being a part of all of those efforts,
00:19:26
Speaker
I just feel like there's, especially now working through the world being a piece of shit place to be. It is a lot of like extra labor for, you know, black queer people to be doing. And it's like, I work in, I do nonprofit work, education, you know, all sort of shit. And I feel like, you know, yeah, the work is fulfilling and it's good to be, you know, helping
00:19:56
Speaker
you know communities of people that I care about but also like it's still labor and it's also like a lot of work and you know and it can be really tiring like just because you're doing non-profit shit um especially if you're not really making money from it and you know people are not expecting you to be able to sustain or whatever um
00:20:20
Speaker
It can be really exhausting, really. And we're doing all of this on our own time. We're doing all of this outside of our regular lives and the regular jobs that we have. You were trying to find a job in this whole experience. And that's like a whole other. It was so terrible.
00:20:42
Speaker
You know, and I feel like to me, you know, I feel like it can be a lot like I feel like we put a lot of weight on ourselves to be everything for everyone in our community and to be able to help.
00:21:00
Speaker
But sometimes it's just like, you know, we all have to do that. And it's okay to take steps back from that, especially in the effort of taking care of yourself because, you know, yeah. Yes. Big time. So I think for me there were, well...
00:21:23
Speaker
So a few things came up, right? I think one of the things that was the biggest to me is that I was asking the people I was closest with and had, I think, the most intricate and complex and amazing relationships with to take this ride with me. And I didn't feel like the work that we were doing was being reflected.
00:21:44
Speaker
I think that not that I need awards and accolades or anything like that. I just have a big natural recognition for the work you were doing. But our community wasn't even invested. And granted, we only had two summers of working on a third before we ended everything. I was like, even like, when I tell you all Aaron is brilliant, Aaron is, of course, the ex-marketing director. Now that's my homegirl. Because we no longer do that shit.
00:22:11
Speaker
When Aaron put together our visuals and we do our videos and we edit our podcasts and all, I mean, our visuals, we've had some really beautiful things that Aaron has created. And the fact that they would go through and get one or two likes and people just wouldn't see them, we would promote them and share them and we'll lose followers for sharing our people's work was weird, right? That's a good girl. Right. And I was also just like, at some point, because, OK,
00:22:36
Speaker
Because I think this rolls into the other thing. I realized that people weren't interested in who was putting on the summit either. I think people were more concerned about what person was doing it versus the fact that the space was there. Because there were other people. So we haven't talked about this. But there have been three people who have reached out to me directly, whether it was email or through my phone number or when somebody found me.
00:23:05
Speaker
Somebody found me on another particular app that I will not name, because that's not what the app was for. But yeah, people have been like, hey, I want to do a Black for something. I got the idea from you. And I wanted to see if you were interested in doing X, Y, and Z. Could you help me get some pointers? And after doing this for three years, I was like, I can definitely give you some pointers. I can definitely give you some support. Other people.
00:23:32
Speaker
have chosen to do it, and then didn't acknowledge the fact that they got it from another person, and also didn't acknowledge the fact that you took the entire idea of how the ball was layout worked. And not just that, you did it after we asked you, or after we had worked with you on other things, or asked you for support recently, or asked you for support, and you just bugged. And not only one person did that, two people did that.
00:23:59
Speaker
And so like, I'm in a place where I'm like, just say you don't value the people who are doing it, right? And I think it's even harder because we've wanted to have these really amazing people come in and do the work, but like, we don't have that kind of budget. Where are we getting the money from? Like, and we're also like, we're black, like it's okay. And this leads to something else really quick. If you are a black and queer trans person and you don't make your services available to other black and queer and trans people, what the fuck are you doing?
00:24:22
Speaker
And you cost so much fucking money that the people that you're talking to and the people that you're a community with can't access you, you are not accessible on purpose and you are a part of the problem. And you work with big organizations, big corporations and other like schools and shit, and you're able to get $10,000, 20 people for two days of work or whatever the fuck, some of you bitches can do that. If I call you and I'm a small space in a small org with X amount of money and another big budget, like there should be some room where like you can show up.
00:24:53
Speaker
There was a point where we were trying to get people to show up for the summit, for the first summit, the second summit that was virtual, who wouldn't even give us the time of day. Because they were so big and so well known. Or they were asking for a ridiculous amount of money for an hour of our time. And I was like, you're not accessible to the people that you claim to be accessible to. And yes, your time is valuable.
00:25:22
Speaker
How does that make any sense? The community that you're talking about, that you're just using your voice for can't access you. And not personally, and not your love life, but we can't even ask you to show up to a space that you claim to want to be in, because we don't have enough money. So it's not about community. It's not about support. It's about you making your coins about capitalism and you getting a check.
00:25:48
Speaker
And yes, I feel like value your work and value your time, but how does that work when the niggas that you, the niggas who you're talking to don't have the money over time and you are a part of a community and you know that. You see the girl. Cause I'm all about, I'm all about like, like white orgs and white people should be paying us a ridiculous amount of money. Just, you know, just give us, you know, I'm talking for 10 minutes, give me $500. Like I don't give a fuck. Very bad.
00:26:16
Speaker
And I'm so I'm all about supporting people, you know, getting that coin and not doing those sorts of free panels or workshops, you know, especially like, you know, I hear that all the time also just like as a writer as a creator, you know, like I just feel like there are a lot of organizations that actually do have the funds and the ability that could take advantage of you, you know,
00:26:43
Speaker
But I feel like working in this space and collaborating with other people that you know, we are black queer niggas just starting some shit out the ground. Why would that sort of be the same expectation that you have or what you ask or request instead of asking of what does support or collaboration actually look like in a way that is reasonable for both parties of people?
00:27:14
Speaker
And like you said, I feel like it just comes down to people just making their money and moving forward and going to those opportunities. Because then it's like, if you have a particular expertise and it would be really beneficial for you to be able to talk to the people in my community who I can reach, how can they ever gain access to you if they gotta pay
00:27:41
Speaker
fucking $50 to go to whatever the fuck works. No, because you met 39 and 40. Because I'm like, who are you reaching? Who? Who? Who's your audience? It's not us. And honestly, if that's the fact, like, say that shit, like, if that's what it is,
00:28:06
Speaker
But don't don't call something a thing and say that it's for people like us. And then it's not actually accessible for people like us or you're not actually collaborating with people like us and making making that sort of thing. And again, like, it's not about just like, you know, doing whatever for free or, you know, doing things without whatever, but, you know.
00:28:27
Speaker
It's about making things accessible to the people that you're working with and the people you're doing shit for. Right. And I think that that was like, but that was what made me feel like, okay, well, I don't have a stake in this work. I don't want, not I don't have, I don't want a stake in this work anymore because we, even when we were talking about charging, I think the most we talked about charging for a ticket was like $15.
00:28:47
Speaker
We were talking about sliding skills. We had a sliding skill for 15. And then we were also like, we're going to put tickets aside. We were going to put tickets to the side for people if they wanted to come and wanted to buy a ticket for someone else, or if they just really couldn't afford it and really just wanted to show up. And we were like, okay, we have tickets, like a set number and set aside to then give away to folks.
00:29:09
Speaker
because I knew when we were having in Atlanta, that is a population of Black queer folks who run the gamut in terms of financial situations. And I want everyone, regardless of economic status, to be able to show up. And I also knew that we had did an event for the last two events we have done happen free.
00:29:30
Speaker
So even a gradual jump in call, some niggas is like, girl, I think the fuck not. And I was like, I can't be mad if everything we've done has been free up until this point. And the reason why it's been free is because I've been able to get funding from other sources so that people don't have to pay.
00:29:45
Speaker
So yeah, I think that was a big thing. I realized I don't have mistaken as work anymore because people are willing to do different things to make the spaces work. And my thing was always to have a free space and to always make sure that people who wanted to come could just come, right? Because I didn't have that option in high school when I was in college. I really had to build and find my own community. And even as an adult, it's not that great.
00:30:13
Speaker
Like finding community and being back in queer, especially living like back in Connecticut is not that great. So like, let's, let's be clear. The space needed to be free anyway, but yeah, that was a big part of the thing for me was like the way that people were moving.
00:30:31
Speaker
And like taking ideas and just like not being upfront and accountable about how you got to the point you got to in the first place, like not really being upfront and accountable about like how we were moving. And even then, right? I think it got even more messy and complicated when I realized that people that ball was having supporting as an organization, were they able to donations or like buying their work or sharing their posts or getting with them on lives or whatever. We're also supporting folks who they actively knew didn't fuck with us or actively knew has stolen from us or actively knew like didn't have room for us.
00:31:01
Speaker
And I was like, how does, how does that work? The math is a math. The math is a math thing. So yeah, like that was a big part of, that was the breaking point for me when I was like, the people who I'm asking to do this work have been working with me and all this, this thing for, for had been doing this work and working with me for three years.
00:31:29
Speaker
And I feel like all I have done is like have them, you know, take time outside of their regular jobs and stuff and maneuver and stuff and struggle and be in relationships and like, cause some people go through breakups. Some niggas did like moved completely, like moved in. I mean, it's so much of what's happened while we've been doing this. Like, I'm just like, it's, I can't do this anymore.
00:31:52
Speaker
And also my heart wasn't in it. I was like, if this is how people are behaving and this is how we're being treated, like I have, and that's something else I wanted to get into. The treatment, because I truly believe that some people, like there was, I have did a conversation on like someone else's like, like not live, someone else's like Zoom call like a couple of like months ago and this was like December.
00:32:20
Speaker
And we were talking, and people were like, oh, we've heard of you. But some of the folks in the Zoom call were like, we've heard of you. But we also know other people who do the same thing. And I was like, well, who are these folks? And so they started lifting off names. And I'm Googling these people. And I'm like, oh, well, they're all thin and able-bodied and attractive and look a certain way. And I was like, if you don't want fat, Black, queer people to be in the space, just say that.
00:32:48
Speaker
Like, if you don't like the fact, like, because I'm also thinking about the people who have, like, again, the people who reached out to me, the people who have taken the idea without, like, acknowledging it, the people who have, like, shit on us while, like, also, again, copying work that we've done, they also are very, like, they look, they are conventionally attractive. Right? And so I'm like, there is a conversation to be had about, like, who, like, who you choose to take your spaces from, who you choose to get your community from, because
00:33:14
Speaker
It was evident that like, oh, people have heard of us, but because I look a certain way or like present a certain way, like people aren't engaging with the content or the work or even coming to the summit because like I'm the person that put it together.
00:33:27
Speaker
Not even because you don't like me, but just based off of how I'm presenting myself and how I look and how I live my day-to-day life. And I was like, wow. And that also hit home because I was like, well, how many other people have been like, oh, I've heard of them, but this person runs it or like these people running, which is also people notice. Like I stopped posting myself on the social media a lot because I was like, I want people to show up. And if I'm the reason people aren't showing up, I don't want to be the face of this organization for that very reason.
00:33:59
Speaker
And me and Aaron actually had a conversation earlier today, our marketing person, Aaron, I gotta be clear. Our marketing person, Aaron, me and him had a conversation today, and he was basically saying that like
00:34:14
Speaker
you know, he was talking about how Baldwin, like, I, like, basically that, like, he feels as though I was like a brand. And he was like, I think that people were following you, people were following Baldwin assuming that you were a part, like that Baldwin was something that you created and therefore like you'll be the face of this thing. And he was like, as Baldwin grew, you don't, like, you didn't, like, you don't want to, you don't want to be a brand. You don't want, you don't, you don't want to be the face of an org. You don't want to be a brand. And so like, you stopped being the person at the forefront and people stopped engaging with it because they were following specifically for you.
00:34:43
Speaker
like the girls were coming specifically for you. You know? And we could talk about that because I feel like...
00:34:52
Speaker
If we're... I think that's kind of funny, I guess? Just because I think doing non-profit type work or doing something like we were doing with Baldwin's, it doesn't feel like it should have to be something where you are the face of this thing and people are coming to
00:35:18
Speaker
you know, interact with you or fucking see your selfies or whatever. But I feel like, you know, we've been doing the podcast for a while. And like, a podcast feels more of a thing where like, if people want to interact with you, or people are showing up for you, like, that would make sense.
Podcast Intentions and Personal Reflections
00:35:43
Speaker
But I'm like, people not
00:35:46
Speaker
they not interacting with the podcast in that way either. So I'm just like, what's tea? Like, I don't know. Well, I think a part of it, right, is that we have to, it takes time to grow. Right. And if I'm being honest, um, what was like, what's all, what I think trumps all of the shit, whether it's the experience, how it was treated, the things that I've been said, people have lied on me or claimed myself their idea or people have shit on me and stole my idea. Like regardless of whatever, right?
00:36:19
Speaker
I want to do things for me. I have been consistently doing things for my community and my community has consistently spit in my face and said, fuck you. I think ballwinds was my last straw of like, I'm gonna always love other black queer folks and there's nothing, I'm gonna always love support, fuck wit, you know, bang wit, fuck niggas up over my community.
00:36:48
Speaker
But what I'm no longer going to do is give pieces of myself that are wholeheartedly me and like not have them be receptive or have them be stolen, have them be taken, right? Cause I mean, like I can also, I keep saying like somebody stole my idea, right? But I think the reality is that other people have been doing the same thing we have been doing probably for far longer and they're probably bigger, right? But I think the format that we chose and how we chose to do it was very unique and very specific to us.
00:37:16
Speaker
And I think that idea is interesting. And I think also what you said about people deciding to do a thing after seeing what you're doing. And because they can make it bigger, they do so without thinking of ways of collaboration is also just a funny way of moving. It is. But I was going to say something.
00:37:42
Speaker
But yeah, no, I feel like that is very valid and, you know, like it doesn't mean that like what we did, you know, the people that we were able to reach with Baldwin, like, you know, if you, you showed up to a summit, you fuck with us, you bang with us, you know, whatever, whatever, you know.
00:38:03
Speaker
we love and respect it. But oh, you know, I feel like that just, I just feel like I randomly remembered like when you said like some people have said to you in following like Baldwin or the podcast or I don't know which but like saying
00:38:22
Speaker
Oh, well y'all should have but X amount of followers by now we're like, you should be looking like this or I thought you would be bigger than that. And then you ask people, Oh, are you actually like following us? Are you listening to the podcast?
00:38:38
Speaker
i've gotten i mean i'm just like i'm kind of i'm also over it in that regard of like people saying whatever sort of expectations of where we should be and what we should look like and we should be doing x y z but you're not actually supporting us anyway you're just like here talking shit which also was pit so
00:38:58
Speaker
Again, all of these things wrap into the reason why I'm just like, I'm doing this for me. I enjoy talking shit with my homegirls and being messy. That is it. I don't need a whole bunch of followers to do that. I think that the conversations that I've had with my friends would be great in our discussion that needs to be had amongst a community of folks.
00:39:27
Speaker
And that's part, and I think that that is it. Like, that's where it stops. I'm like, if you want, I'm like, now really, this really is me and my good homegirl, me and my good Judy, having a conversation. That is it. Like, and I'm like, if you want to engage and tune in and rate and subscribe and talk shit with us in the comments or Kiki or, you know, push back on whatever we said, I'm game with that. But what you're not going to do is show up and give us a list of the opinions and advice to something that you don't even like support or listen to. And.
00:39:56
Speaker
I think it's also telling because the people who are giving this feedback are also people who have been in my life for a long time, who have known me some since childhood. So I was like, why is it that I put out something that's really important to me and you don't even bother to support or engage in it, but you bother to give feedback and critique as if you give a fuck?
00:40:15
Speaker
Right. Like, and I'm going to be honest, I think when I'm looking at like, when I like the people that supported us the most from ballwinds weren't people that we were family or friends with. It was everybody else. It was the people that we had reached and people that had heard about us. It was people that had jumped in our inbox and offered to be volunteers or to like do a workshop and wanting to like connect and communicate and wanting to like collaborate.
00:40:36
Speaker
Those were the people that did the most support for ballwinds or for this podcast. Not family, not friends. Hell, my family, half of them don't even know I still have, I have a podcast. Even though I've announced it a couple of times and said, hey, y'all should check this out. No one's checked it out. No one's listened to it. No one gives a fuck, right? And that's just the truth. So if you're not going to engage, you don't get an option to give feedback.
00:41:04
Speaker
That's very true. Yeah, we're good on unsolicited advice. And if you want to get cussed out, just say that.
00:41:14
Speaker
Because I can also very cutely gather you. But yeah, I think all of this feeds into, like I said, maybe like five minutes before we got on this tangent. All of this is what was important to me was that I started doing things that made me feel good. If niggas want to hop on a bandwagon and support, that's great. I don't go fuck if nobody ever listens to this besides me, Erin, Bria, and maybe
00:41:40
Speaker
Bria's partner and maybe two of our other friends. That's fine, right? That is fine. That's all it's got to be. While I take a shower, while I clean the house, I'm just laughing at myself. Because we're fucking funny. Because we're fucking funny.
00:41:57
Speaker
Um, but like, yeah, I think that like, yeah, at this point I'm just doing it because I want to write. There is no interest in like, like having community backing up community tour. I just do this because I think it's a lot of fun. It brings me joy to have discussions with my homegirl that I can then post and you know, people can interact with her or not. Right.
00:42:17
Speaker
That's it. I like how I like, and I said, and I had this discussion with my therapist a few months ago too. I was like, this podcast is great for me because I'm used to people erasing my voice or erasing me out of spaces or dismissing me. And so this podcast gives me the freedom to talk and say what the fuck I want to say, unsolicited and unprohibited.
00:42:34
Speaker
So this podcast is great for me because it gives me, I feel like I have a voice again. I feel like I have a bigger voice than I've ever had. And not because I'm talking to other people, but because I can say what I want to say and no one's going to tell me otherwise. Because I have the freedom and the space to say, hey, X, Y, Z is bullshit and this is Y. And no one's going to try to shut me down or silence me.
00:42:57
Speaker
And my identities and all those things don't play a role. It's just I get to come up here and talk shit for an hour and a half and then shut this off and go about my day. It's great. Me and my childhood self is ecstatic because we never thought. And bitch, we here. Just talking shit. Creating our own speech class. Right.
00:43:24
Speaker
So yeah, I think that there is, um, not this, I think that there is, um, something like, like people, like I've also gotten comments and like emails and stuff about like, oh, like, um, you seem very happy that I watched the story. You seem like you were very happy about it. And I was like, I am.
00:43:47
Speaker
Should we not be? I'm like, I am. I'm relieved. I don't have to put my friends to this. I'm relieved that I don't have. And mind you, like, this is for stress. All the fucking time. Like, and I was like, whatever. And it's time. We're tired. We're tired.
00:44:06
Speaker
Bitches is tired. I moved. Mind you, while we were still planning the summit up until this point, I was going through a whole fucking housing situation. And I had to like, I moved to Connecticut and had to move again a month after moving there. It was a lot. I still have a vendetta against, you know. We don't even have to look. We don't even have to get into it. I didn't know that I'm free. I don't have to talk to that man no more. And that's just dead on that. Um, but yeah, like it, it, I was like this all like, it just, it,
00:44:37
Speaker
I was just like, I'm, I'm relieved because I have put the people and again, like I was, I was, I was saying like, I would like, these are also, these people aren't just people I work with. These are also like my, like my closest friends, right? Like these are like some of my closest friends. So like, I'm asking people that I am close to very, very close to, you know, these are my siblings, these are my girls, these are my, you know, my bitches.
00:45:01
Speaker
I'm asking them to support me in a dream that is draining all of us. I'm asking them to support me in a space that like no longer feels good to do and is harming each and every one of us in its own specific way. And I think it's okay to just like, you know, sometimes you have things that you want to do and sometimes, like you said, it's just not serving you anymore or, you know, it's time to pack it up or you outgrow it or whatever the case may be.
00:45:31
Speaker
And I feel like it's okay. It doesn't even have to be some big, dramatic whatever. It just could be like, we tried this for a time and we did what we were able to do and that's okay and that's it. And we're going on with life.
00:45:50
Speaker
I think it's funny, too, because people talk about being afraid to fail. And I honestly didn't think. I thought that Baldwin's was going to be a thing that grew and was beautiful. And I was going to be so proud of it. And this is not what I expected to happen. And also, I'm not like, yeah, I failed. I think if you asked me what I wanted this to look like and didn't get there, I'm not even close. But am I happy with what came out and what turned out? Yep. And do I feel relieved that it's over? Absolutely, yes.
00:46:21
Speaker
I also think that sometimes failure is in your own best interest. Sometimes you set out to... Well, my kids are acting up outside Five Bronx apartment. Okay. I didn't know if you could hear that.
00:46:39
Speaker
But sometimes you set out to do a thing and you have certain expectations of starting this new project, starting this new job, starting whatever the fuck thing that you're gonna do and you think that you're gonna reach whatever sort of goal and then you don't make it or you don't like it or whatever.
00:47:01
Speaker
Yeah, you failed to do whatever you thought you were going to do, but maybe it's in your own best interest that you realized you actually don't want to do this thing before you spend the rest of your life. I feel like it's better to fail and realize, hey, I don't actually like doing this, or I don't actually want to do this.
00:47:20
Speaker
Or, you know, I actually don't feel like I could do this long term then and to stop and, you know, wrap and spend your time on something that you do want to do and you do have the energy for them to like port to like force to try to force a thing to to happen. That's true. I think that this also was a news flash for me that I don't enjoy nonprofit work anymore. And I was like, this not like the job of like the org I'm working with and the job I'm currently in. I was like, this is the last nonprofit job I will ever be taking.
00:47:50
Speaker
I mean, after, when I leave here, it'll be a career change. It won't be another nonprofit job. It won't be another gig or whatever. It'll literally be a career change completely. Cause I do not like this work. I don't like, I don't like how it moves. I don't like the people and like some of the folks are like the way they treat folks. I'm overbanging my people to give me money to do shit that I should fucking have access to anyway. Fuck you crackers. I'm over it. I'm over it. I'm over it. I'm over having to answer to my people to get shit done.
00:48:18
Speaker
I'm over having to, I'm over it. I'm over having to beef with y'all to mind your motherfucking businesses. I'm over it. Bye pumpkin. We're done. And I think, I think, um, you know, you, you learn in those experiences having done it and you're just like, yeah, girl, this ain't it. It's not, it's not it honey. And let's neck honey. Um,
00:48:49
Speaker
Sequita. I can't wait to send you home, Sequita. I can't, I can't do this. Laurie and Boom Cat Gibson, bitch, your face could never. Laurie and Boom Cat Gibson, your face could never.
00:49:16
Speaker
Okay. Oh, your dance fave could never. Lorianne Boomcat. Oh my god. Anyway, anyway. Alright, let's wrap up this section, but I don't know if there's any other sort of, yeah, spreading thoughts, you know? Maybe if you wanted to say goodbye to Baldwin.
00:49:39
Speaker
I want to be very clear that, like I said, I have a mix of emotions, right? I'm relieved. I think I'm sad because I failed, right? And I'm sad because I failed. I'm relieved because it's over. And I'm grateful because a lot of people stuck their necks out on the line to support us. And a lot of people gave
00:50:03
Speaker
their energy in Taiwan, I couldn't afford to give them two dimes, babe. And then, and I mean, like, shout out to the people who made it, like, who stuck with me and who were able to get, like...
00:50:15
Speaker
paid, like who I was able to give more money than I ever thought I could give to because my gosh, I just, I remember, I remember starting this and we were like, but we were like, we had like $3,000 to make this work. And I think we had spent like two of that on like food the first time. Girl, I don't even know. The budget was like $3,000 because I didn't have much. I can't even, wow.
00:50:41
Speaker
The budget was like $3,000 because I didn't have much. And we spent $2,000 on the black-owned catering business. And then I think we spent about $7,750 on the venue space. And we had to make it work from there.
00:50:58
Speaker
A lot of that was donations. A lot of that was people coming through at the last minute with like, hey, my church has this, or my org has that, or we can donate X amount of plates. And I was like, thank you so much. Because it wasn't gone. Why? Right. So I'm grateful for every person that offered a plate, whose services we used, every person that, regardless of our relationship standing, every person that was on the committee, both of the committees,
00:51:28
Speaker
Aaron for really jumping in. Girl, the way that Aaron got dragged, I didn't even talk about that because I'm trying to keep it cute, but the way that Aaron got dragged in, like I literally dragged in because I had to call him the week before the summit was ready because we didn't have any materials because the person who was supposed to do it in the committee didn't, and Aaron had to like come through and like really saved the day.
00:51:47
Speaker
man happened made it and has been doing our visuals and some of it again for a year or so over a year at one point for free just running our ball ones pages and like uh
00:51:59
Speaker
All of that, I am grateful for the people that put their necks out and supported us and really was like fucking with us the long way and was really, really invested in the work I was doing and believed in me because like, yeah, I failed, but I failed up. I don't think I failed down, right? I think I, like, I failed up. Like, I think I failed into something else.
00:52:21
Speaker
Get into it. What that something else is, we do not know. But I did. I think I failed up. I failed into something else. And whatever I do next, hopefully it's successful. And if not, maybe it'll be another podcast episode about, hey, it'll be another podcast episode about how I failed at something else. I don't know. I don't know. We don't know. But yes, I am a mix of things. But I think those are the big three. I'm sad because I failed. I'm relieved because it's over. And I'm just filled with gratitude to all the people who
00:52:50
Speaker
really showed up in the last three years and gave their time and energy when I couldn't pay them when I could. So yeah, I think, thank you. Yeah. Oh, that was nice. That was a nice way to, you know, close that out. And I will just add, you know, y'all just like stay alone for the ride if you want, you know, keep coming back. Also, if you don't want to,
00:53:15
Speaker
I mean, you know, it's fine, you know, do whatever you want. If you don't want to show them, please, like, don't want to stop you. But I'm saying, if you're curious about what happens next, you know, you got to stay in tune with the podcast, giving you the best of the conversations and the mess. All right. Yes. Um, so speaking of mess, um, I know
00:53:42
Speaker
We didn't even take a break. There wasn't a 10 second space or nothing. You don't want to break through that. No, my God. I just want to transition right into the mess. Why? Don't break this time. I have nothing to plug. So here we are going into your favorite segment. Girl, I guess. Oh my God. No.
00:54:08
Speaker
I was hoping, y'all, what's really funny is when we first started the episode, I was like, oh, I'm like, you may not want to do this segment after we had this conversation. I already, I literally. I heard what you said, but I thought that you might change your mind because it was a deep, I think, and very vulnerable discussion for me. Maybe not for you because you don't give a fuck. But it was a deep, vulnerable discussion for me. I just enjoy talking about mess. And I spilled some tea.
00:54:38
Speaker
And that's fine. But I thought you were going to be like, yeah, girl,
Black-Owned Luxury and Accessibility Debate
00:54:41
Speaker
maybe not. Let's just, you know, do an opposite, wrap it up. And you're like, no, we're still going to do this other segment. No. Okay. Well, so let's get through this. Great. So.
00:54:52
Speaker
Bam, today. I think that Telfar has announced, so if you don't know, Telfar her little girl. I'm not going to act like I'm the expert because I don't really care about getting one of these bags. But Telfar is a, I believe, a black-owned, like... Black queer owned.
00:55:12
Speaker
Okay. Um, Luxurous Bag Company. Um, but they did announce a release of a new Telfar. I keep wanting to say Teflar and I feel like that's very much the nigger in me. You do a hard ER on Black History Month and on the podcast. It's already true. Erin, take that out. Doesn't matter. Erin, take that out. Anyway, but the Telfar Circle Bag
00:55:42
Speaker
is a new announcement and it's going to retail for $567. Now, me personally, I have seen the arguments about what people have said about luxury and ooh, let us be luxurious, but I just feel like, you know, it just seems like, yeah. Because what? Here's the, uh.
00:56:11
Speaker
Here's what I'll... Okay. So before the girl leaves, I'm like, no, that's not... So the original Telfar bags are between $150 to $250, depending on the size of the bag that you get. And, you know, I think they're all vegan leather. And the purpose is to make luxury more affordable to communities of black. Yeah, there's a whole lot of... I heard it that time.
00:56:41
Speaker
I heard it's that side. I'm so sorry. But to make, I live in the hood, y'all. I'm doing my best. But to make luxury more affordable to our community or whatever. And sure, a nigga like me doesn't care about fancy luxury bags. I also feel like, as people have explained and defined luxury, luxury items, in definition,
00:57:09
Speaker
by definition is exclusionary, you know, like things are priced, like it's not even just about the production of the bag, like niggas make shit like Chanel and whatever the fuck and them bags don't need to be thousands and thousands of dollars, but the purpose is for it to be exclusionary. I also think about spending $567 for a faux leather bag is not something that's super accessible to a nigga like me.
00:57:37
Speaker
But I am not gonna be buying, I wouldn't be buying expats anyway. Because I am a queer. Like my particular brand of queer is like backpack. I don't mean it that way. It's giving, you know, queer.
00:57:58
Speaker
No, but I'm very like, I'm very like, I'm no, I don't mean like, I don't mean it like that. No, I mean, like, but I mean, like, you know, I'm always like, it's giving anime backpack or tote bag, like, that's really, you know, but things that are like, affordable to me, like, bitch, I'm not paying more than $30 on a bed. But you know, that's me personally. But
00:58:29
Speaker
Again, as other people have said, the whole people defining it as like, ooh, we deserve luxury. But again, I just feel like that's just part of capitalism, babes, you know? But also like, so I, okay, I own a couple of luxury bags.
00:58:46
Speaker
Oh, she's luxurious. Shut the fuck. You know what's funny? I say that, but most people don't consider the bags that I own luxury. We thought they were luxurious when we were in middle school and high school, because most of us cut into four. So I have a coach bag and a Dunia and Burke bag. And then a girl I used to work with named R.V. Walker created this bag called the Ho Bag, and I bought one of those. And that was on the same price as the right. It's very cute. It's an off-white.
00:59:14
Speaker
situation. She's very cute. But like, those three bags cost around the same price. The coach was like, two something the Judy Burke was like, I feel like 190 something in the end, the end, the whole bag was 150. I want to have the case payback. So that's four, but like, but all those bags have lasted me and have been really good quality and they all
00:59:38
Speaker
For me, are these things that I've always wanted about myself. Not because we're all like this ugly thing, but because I was like, I never thought I could afford this shit, and now I can buy it and buy my mama. Me and my mama got one. Me and my mama got one because I also wore one. I mean, she can afford her own bag if she a bad bitch, but like.
00:59:55
Speaker
I was like, I can afford to buy me and my mommy a case spade bag. And that wasn't, I mean, a nice one, right? And it was amazing to do. And it felt like something that I wanted to do for a long time. Now would I do it regularly? And like, no. So like for Tail Farm, my answer is no. I also feel like the exclusivity of the Tail Farm bags is also stressing me out.
01:00:19
Speaker
Because I can't afford, they're not like, they're also like, I can't get one. I don't have access to get one. Well, that's also part of the thing. And I think that, you know, there's nothing wrong with the bags. There's nothing wrong with enjoying them. There's nothing wrong with
01:00:43
Speaker
you know, just buying yourself the bag or whatever. But y'all also could call a spade a spade and say like, this ain't accessible. Like, and then also just like defining something as affordable luxury is just like not really a thing. Like, affordable luxury can't really be a thing by definition because, you know, luxury means in feeding into capitalism that things are going to be less accessible to people. So affordable luxury just
01:01:11
Speaker
doesn't feel realistic and it feels like a contradictory. But yeah, so that was that on that. I mean, y'all can feel how you wanna feel. I just added this because I remember I, when Tofar Bags first came out, I was like, okay, cute, but not for me because again, like I'm not spending $200 on a purse. But that's the type of girl. Backpack, backpack again. Backpack, backpack, like that's where we're at. I'm getting a tote bag, bitch. Like I'm just, you know, if I get a purse, I'm not gonna spend that much money.
01:01:41
Speaker
But I think I saw, and I followed an artist on Twitter who was painting on the bags and painted really cool shit, painted koi fish on one of them and was painting really beautiful illustrations. And I was like, oh shit, this would make me want to get one. And I remember some girl responding to that tweet being like, you should go get it anyway because it's a Black-owned business. And I said, girl,
01:02:08
Speaker
y'all love so y'all love talking about like y'all really think that that's like a calling car feel like it's a dog whistle for a lot of y'all like oh it's a black like so
01:02:19
Speaker
I should have been like, bitch, you want to buy me one? This is also what gets me to the truth. I'm supposed to say that I can afford a $200 bag. And not just that. I feel like we just like this discussion also needs to be had around like how y'all will create a business. You're like, service is lackluster. The product ain't great. And they'd be like, support them a black owned business. And everybody's black owned business don't have my politic. It ain't for me. They don't support the queers. They'd be calling us faggots and homeboys and shit in the background. Like you can't.
01:02:49
Speaker
Also, this reminds me of the Swizz Beatz thing. You niggas will say it's a Black-owned business. Support us. But also, you've been doing Instagram live. You've been doing these versus battles on Instagram for free. Girl, they had to drag Swizz. I didn't add this, but they was dragging Swizz Beatz the other day because I think she was in.
01:03:08
Speaker
He because they were going to charge a subscription.
Criticism of Entertainment Platforms
01:03:12
Speaker
$3. Bullshit. Absolutely. I'm not going through that. And let me tell you something. I haven't watched a versus Monica and Brandy. First of all, if we came in acute, me and my homegirl, me and Shelly were doing what was versus type Instagram lives before all of these big niggas were doing. And they were. We were doing stuff.
01:03:30
Speaker
you were doing DJ ciphers and shit on Instagram live. Any of me and my regular DJ homegirls can do that shit on Instagram live. Okay. So I'm not about to pay these already rich niggas for some shit where they're basically just playing somebody's playlist that I can go find on the sweet title or Apple music. Girl, no. And not just that I was also like, bitch, what you off like, like,
01:03:54
Speaker
And of course y'all started a horror instrument supporting black business. And I was like, y'all also gave a platform to rapist abusers. T.I. and Tiny, cause y'all definitely let, like, let, let Tiny get into her little group or whatever after her and T.I. just got accused of like sexually assaulting all these women and drugging people. What the fuck are we doing? No, I was never going to pay you. And to be clear, I think a lot of us, like, cause somebody was like,
01:04:18
Speaker
Uh, this came up on, um, Kinga Reed's video, uh, on YouTube, but he was like, a lot of y'all girls be forgetting to do that. A lot of us is broke. A lot of us share the same passwords. Like I have three people's passwords to their accounts. I don't pay, right? Girl, you do. You don't want two of mine. You don't pay for nothing. Like you're on two of mine, but it's not just you, right? My Nithy Plus has five accounts.
01:04:41
Speaker
And I'm the only person that pays it, but also I can afford to pay it and then share my path with my homegirls. Yeah. My people pay for Netflix. I've had that password for years now. And now we share accounts across the board because I'm not paying. I just got a pair of my plus. It's already three accounts up there. I'm like, how? I just got it. I haven't had it in a full month. So if you think that we're all not going to share the password to that bullshit, girl who got the versus battle because I think it's so and so versus so and so.
01:05:10
Speaker
I'm gonna share my password with my homegirl if I buy it. And to be clear, I'm not buying that bullshit. I'm not buying it, no. I won't be doing that. As far as his tail farm bags goes, I think that they're very nice bags. I've seen them in person now. I've got to carry one on my arm real quick. And it was a moment, but I'm also not gonna fight with other people to try to get into a bag and a release that drops once a week. I'm not doing that. And also,
01:05:35
Speaker
I feel like a lot of, this is my last thing about that, but I feel like a lot of what comes with luxury that I've seen other people talk about more in depth is that it's about the exclusivity of like, other people can't get this. And I feel like some of a lot of this wasn't necessarily Telfar's fault where like, you know, there are people using bots to like buy up, you know, originally, you know, there were the issues where like,
01:06:01
Speaker
people were using bots to buy up all of the bags and then to resell them for like even higher prices so you know they're they have to go through the whole thing of like having them drop or whatever but i feel like a lot of what comes with you know this um exclusivity is that people like the feeling of having something that other people can't have and i'm like that's capitalism steez for y'all and y'all need to unpack that right but that is not it's not for me because like i feel like we could all be bad bitches with nice bags like
01:06:31
Speaker
And not just that, we all gon' style it differently. We all dress the same. Well, some of y'all didn't dress, I mean, you know what, let's get into it. Some of y'all dress the same, and that's why you're mad, because you're a homegirl, you have the same color pink Telfar bag, and you're upset because you're probably also styled the same. And that's tragic. Whereas if I go out with me and my group of homegirls, everybody may have the same bag, but it's gon' look different. It's gon' be styled different. Tragic for y'all.
01:06:59
Speaker
Going forward, um, I was just gonna mention this briefly since you mentioned problematic niggas, but I didn't watch the Super Bowl. I don't know nothing about it. Um, I wasn't invested, but I just think that it's quite funny that, um, the girls blackballed, you know, Jana Jackson, um, for somebody else accidentally showing her nipple.
01:07:27
Speaker
When they had all of these problematic men, you know, with terrible allegations attached. I... On the stage at one time. I gagged. Because I know... So I'm not gonna hold you. I didn't care about Super Bowl. I don't know who went. I don't know who was playing. And I didn't watch this halftime show.
01:07:49
Speaker
I didn't watch it all I know is I know I May go see a clip of Mary J blush this may May you And that's only if her section is completely separated from everybody because it probably is If it's very much interwoven and all of the rest of these niggas, then I don't really want I don't
01:08:11
Speaker
I also be so confused because why also giving white rappers who have been problematic and trifling their entire lives and have shown shitty behavior towards black people their entire lives, spaces on black, on platforms with black people, M&M. 50 Cent is trash. I don't, I'm sure there's an allegation about him somewhere about 50 Cent is trash. Uh, apparently Kendrick was there, but I've never liked Kendrick as politics, so I'm good on that.
01:08:36
Speaker
I don't care what y'all say about Kendrick having the best album and that Pulitzer Prize shit. That's great, but your politics is still a piece of shit and you don't see black queer folks in your ideas about black freedom and black- I think we're doing this really, um, show with the South Park creators. Oh, so paying it. Um, continuing on.
01:08:57
Speaker
Y'all had 50, not 50 cent, y'all also had, that's only three. Dr. Dre. It was Dr. Dre. Ain't this also the same nigga that admitted that he had, is this the same? No, that was Timberland. They were like, he had Phillips for Aaliyah when she was 17. That was Timberland, right? That one Dr. Dre. I ain't heard that. Girl, it was, he was talking about it in an interview one time about how he had Phillips for her. And Nicholas was like, won't he underage when you work with her? Oh, okay.
01:09:25
Speaker
You know, I just feel like... I'm tired.
01:09:29
Speaker
I don't have anything else for that. No. Want to move on? Yeah, I'm going to move. I'm going to move. Because I just was like, I didn't watch it. And I'm sure the performance didn't make you. I didn't watch it. I was just mentioning it because I just felt like we should acknowledge the fact that a lot of these niggas are problematic because some of y'all see white y'all. And there are also allegations of sexual assault rape. Didn't one of them get in trouble for like, I feel like somebody got in trouble for like sharing like revenge porn.
01:09:57
Speaker
or like posting a video and like, was that 50? I don't know. Either way, girl, it's the ghetto. Yeah, let's move on. Let's go. Let's see, some more mess. Nick Cannon is begging for Mariah in a new track. So this, I just thought I should share, you know. And be translated, that's a no. I can say it in Espanol.
01:10:26
Speaker
No, no, no, no. I said no. No. Okay, shut, shut, okay. So Nick Cannon sampled a song from his ex-wife, Mariah Carey, in his new single, Alone. And he has made it very clear that he is trying to get her back, all right? Alone has a sample from her song, Love Takes Time.
01:10:53
Speaker
which he said was one of her favorites. And so, you know, he's talking about how he messed up, you know? Yeah. But also, I feel like, didn't he just have a baby? Yes. I mean, I know he's always just having a baby. Oh my God. Wasn't it like two weeks ago somebody was having a baby? Oh my God. First of all,
01:11:22
Speaker
I'm so sure that Mariah Carey is going to, she's probably cackled multiple times. Apparently. Mariah Carey shares sweet selfie with boyfriend Brian Tanaka. Work.
01:11:44
Speaker
If Mariah Carey ain't nothing else, she's a messy bitch who lives for the drama and her marketing is everything. She don't give a fuck. Like, Nick, this is not your moment. She is taking care of Moroccan and Monroe. I feel like Moroccan and Monroe laughed at it. Is it Moroccan or Morocco? It's a Moroccan. Moroccan. Moroccan. Okay. And Monroe. Cute. Are the twins. And, oh, her boyfriend was fine. Okay. It's Mariah Carey. I mean, yes, that's, yes.
01:12:11
Speaker
I wrote a song about how he wanted her back after he's had how many children? I don't even know. Okay, here's my question. If Nick Cannon has had this many kids and stuck his penis in this many women to create this many children, is he a whore? Did his vibe depreciate?
01:12:33
Speaker
Um, maybe he should stop having all that sex and, you know, stop being such a nasty nigga or, or maybe he should stop wearing those clothes and suggest that he wants to have sex with all these women. You know, if we're going to do the same thing that men love to do to women, um, shouldn't the competition. He is expecting his eighth child with model three Tyessie. Um,
01:12:59
Speaker
Oh, right. Because one of them wanted to know that. I think the other story was like the baby. Yeah. One of the, when the baby had, um, I guess like the baby was deceased. The baby had died. Um, which is very terrible. We are very much not a fan of that. Sorry. Um, for the loss, but the rest of the shit is unacceptable. Yeah. I don't know. I don't, I really, I'm just like, what is the time? Like,
01:13:21
Speaker
And I'm just... Women, ladies, who Nick Cannon are approaching, I really want to know, like, what? Well, girl, you know his meet, you know his sweet all over the fucking internet now. Girl, I loved her Twitter like two weeks ago.
01:13:41
Speaker
At this point, yes. I logged into Twitter a couple of weeks ago. Whenever he had said, like, he had did a, I guess he has his own show, which I also didn't know. Not while we're not, but something else. Right, and I'm no. Absolutely not.
01:13:58
Speaker
But he was sitting down, I guess the bulge was there and people had like taken the photo and was like talking about something like, damn, Nick, oh my God, Nick. And I'm assuming, I think his news or something had leaked or I don't know. Well, I didn't look at them. I just know that the girls were up in arms and I was like, okay, but we don't care. No, I thought you, cause I know Nellie leaked a video. Ooh, the girl is allegedly, allegedly.
01:14:28
Speaker
Girl, I don't know, but... We don't want to get sued allegedly. Allegedly. But, um, yeah, I don't really care what Nick Cannon's penis is like. I honestly... None of them, to be honest. I'm... Like, he needs to keep it, though. Please. Um, but yes. All I know is Mariah's not here for it, so there's that. Thanks.
01:14:51
Speaker
I don't remember if we talked about Rihanna being pregnant or not, but that was a thing. I don't think we did. That was a choice. That was a thing. I don't even want to get into it because- I don't at this point, but you know, I hope she's healthy and the baby is healthy and that is- Congratulations to her and that baby and to her and that baby only.
01:15:19
Speaker
Congratulations on her and the fetus and her and the fetus only. I hope the baby gets to listen to the album that we will never. I hope that she makes a song of an album of nursery rhymes and that baby will be the one, you know.
01:15:40
Speaker
listening to it all. And when that baby gets older, they will learn about all of the wonderful moments Rihanna has given us, such as her busting that fan in the hair with microphone when he would let her go in her concert. Also, when she, when she, when she was, Arya was there on Twitter and she was like, good luck speaking, good luck, good luck booking that stage you speak of. That was a wonderful line from her that we really appreciated.
01:16:09
Speaker
I hope that she gets to see how wonderful her mom, like what her mother has given us. Also, she's giving us Fenty. You know? Savage and also a makeup line. You know? And we're going to get into that. She's probably, you know, going to come out with some baby clothes or something. Yeah. Maybe wait eyebrows for your baby because of your, you know, wigs for your child in case you want to pop. Because you know some babies come out with no eyebrows and it'd be struggling. Oh my God. I can't do it. But you know,
01:16:40
Speaker
She definitely is having a baby, so yeah. But congratulations to the baby. To Rihanna and the baby. That's all, that's all. I just, you know, I just couldn't remember if we talked about it or not.
Social Issues and Pop Culture Updates
01:17:03
Speaker
Okay. I was just gonna briefly say, hey girls, like,
01:17:08
Speaker
The girls are lifting mask mandates, apparently. I don't know. So apparently, I don't really understand because it's confusing, but in New York State, the girls might be lifting mask mandates or, you know, about whatever the fuck requirements. I know in New York City, they haven't been doing that because, girl, it's dirty, but I wouldn't be surprised. Just nothing has been said.
01:17:37
Speaker
Um, to, to update, I, it's, it's gross. Like, I just feel like you can't, you know, so nothing has, and I feel like there can, like individual cities and counties can make their own decisions, I guess, but it seems like, unfortunately in the tri-state area, whatever, um, the girlies are deciding that they've had enough, um, and that they want to, they want something cute for the summertime and they want to go back out and shake some ass.
01:18:06
Speaker
Do they? Well, I don't know what the mayor of Connecticut is doing.
01:18:15
Speaker
Um, I know that his, his executive powers ended. Um, I think like, oh, what was today? I think they ended recently, like the 17th or something yesterday or something like that. Well, I think they ended sometime this week and, um, all of the more, the moratorium stuff that they had in place are also in like the ended. Um, and it's like, I don't know if he's able to still do things about the mask mandates and stuff like that, but I know that both, so I was in Middletown first and I'm in New Haven. I mean, I'm in Hampden and both of those cities.
01:18:43
Speaker
the city like the cities or the town have decided to input keep implementing mask mandates even if like the state isn't um so hopefully i mean i'm not taking off my mask you niggas are nasty but i won't be doing you niggas are nasty i will keep my mask on
01:19:02
Speaker
be keeping myself unmasked. No, maybe, maybe at the part, maybe at the part when I'm high enough distance away from the call from people's faces and be like, oops, I just don't cover nothing. I flabbergasted. I just don't know. Um, yeah, so y'all definitely stay up, still stay vaxxed and boosted and all of that.
01:19:27
Speaker
The last thing that I was gonna say I don't really know a lot about this because I don't care But I just didn't look into it so much. It's more it's like it's more Kanye West drama. So I'm just gonna throw No, because I just wanted to say like because okay so really
01:19:54
Speaker
Kanye was dating some supermodel girl, I think they broke up, and has since been harassing Kim on the Instagram? And it's kinda getting scary? So, you know, don't fuck with the Kardashians, definitely don't. But, you know, Kanye is doing a lot.
01:20:17
Speaker
and uh you know all and and i think particularly in the vein of like reminding people that like harassing the folks i think mostly i just wanted to say like reminding people that like men making whatever sort of grandiose whatever like stalking whatever the fuck thing is not romantic you know and so he he's been doing whatever stuff posting a lot of like
01:20:45
Speaker
Personalized messages between him and her on his Instagram and he like is sending stuff to the house and doing whatever the such things that are causing alarm For her and the the children that they parent
01:21:01
Speaker
So yeah, I feel like there are some people who are not acknowledging that this behavior is problematic, but you know, just a reminder for all of you regular, regular niggas that yeah, you know, whatever sort of romantic gestures that y'all think are romantic gestures when, you know,
01:21:20
Speaker
People are telling you no, people are saying, you know, stop contacting them, whatever the fuck. Like, it's not romantic, it's a problem. So yeah, that's really all I super know about that situation because I was not...
01:21:37
Speaker
really invested. But I will, you know, call out the problematic. I also heard some other discussions about like Kim Kardashian and like a party or like, I don't care. I'm like, I don't know.
01:21:57
Speaker
Like, I don't know. Kanye has been on my second shut-in list. Shout out to, again, the read for quite some time, because I don't know who she is. I don't have it. I don't have it. And the music, and I feel like there's so many times I've had to have conversations with people about Kanye, where I'm just like, the music is just, you got to let it go. Like, it's not even good no more. I don't know what he's... It can't even be so good that... What is happening? What is...
01:22:27
Speaker
It can't even be so good that people are ignoring when he's engaging in problematic behaviors or doing things or whatever. So I'm just like, I can't follow whatever is going on with that man in this life.
01:22:48
Speaker
I just am giving it up to the Lord because no. Okay, so these are two things I'm surprised that I know because you missed them.
Film and Series Discussions
01:22:58
Speaker
And it also just happened in the last two days. You've also been working and busy this week and this weekend. I mean, last weekend and this week, so yeah. So the first trailer for NOPE.
01:23:11
Speaker
came out. Oh, I saw that. No, I did. I am fucking excited. First of all, seeing Kiki Palmer, I was going to see why you, why you do that? Seeing Kiki Palmer made me very happy. I don't know what it is about Kiki that worked, but I was so happy to see her in his movie. And I was happy to see Daniel as a cowboy. I will say, oh my God.
01:23:41
Speaker
Something very funny about that. Okay. Have you seen that? I don't know. This is a very like Twitter specific thing. But have you seen like that tweet where somebody tweets a very old picture of a Kiki Palmer and they're like, oh, can you like delete this?
01:23:57
Speaker
This is my cousin that like died in a car accident or something. And then this person responds like, baby, that's Kiki. When Jordan tweeted the trailer, he tweeted, baby, that's Kiki. It's the funniest shit I've ever seen. I specifically, like I love, I'm excited for Kiki to be in this.
01:24:20
Speaker
What is the name? It was Steven Wynn. Steven Wynn. I am excited because he's fine. I'm excited to see him in this. The trailer really got me. At the end, when Kiki was like, swept him into the sky and shit, I'm like, where is my nigga going? I'm so excited. I don't know if you have something to do with animals like wilding out or aliens. Some people think aliens. Somebody said, I don't know if this is just nigga theory or not, but somebody was like,
01:24:49
Speaker
Nope. Does nope stand for not of planet earth or some shit? I was just like, y'all are doing the thing. I didn't even get that far.
01:24:58
Speaker
I didn't, but you know. But I assumed it had something to do with aliens, but I guess we're gonna, you know. I did when he posted the photo for like, the movie, and I was like, this is giving like, sci-fi X-Files, and like, it's really something like that, and I think we're on. It's giving a mixture, yeah, it's giving a mixture of those things. And I'm really excited, and I like that it's happening like in the Midwest.
01:25:22
Speaker
I am so excited to see that nigga ride a horse. I was like, oh, my coochie is doing backflips. This is going to be great. And as you mentioned, Dr. Strange and the multiverse of madness, the trailer dropped. And I'm going to tell you this now. I'm going to tell you all this right now. Wanda has done nothing wrong. She will do nothing wrong. And we can argue about how you feel. But that's just what it is.
01:25:47
Speaker
The girls, I mean if you haven't seen one division, honestly, my favorite Marvel series so far. Marvel series because lowkey was nice. I think lowkey lowkey was a second. But one division was my favorite.
01:26:04
Speaker
And it was really doing something different. It wasn't giving what the rest of the Marvel practice did. Yeah, you know, Nigga Bird, White Boy and Manigabird didn't give what any of us wanted. I really hate. I don't. And it's not just because I hate Anthony Mackie. I just have to practice it.
01:26:26
Speaker
But I really don't want a Captain Nickaberry movie, but I feel like that's what's going to happen. I'm sure. And maybe not even his phase, but I'm sure by the end, by the time we end this. They're definitely going to do it. Yeah, they're going to probably do one. But anyway.
01:26:40
Speaker
But I'm excited for Dr. Strange. I'm excited to see, if you didn't see What If, you should definitely see What If. I was gonna say that my What If, because some of the stuff in the trailer were like the X-Men, some of that stuff is from like, What If? It's very related, yes. Some of them, I thought they took some actual direct scenes out of What If. It feels like it. It seems like there are some things that are calling back to that. There's also a couple of things.
01:27:07
Speaker
that are calling back to things related to the comics, of course. And also to Loki, for those of you who don't know Loki. Yes. As well as, what Spider-Man was this? No Way Home? No Way Home. Wanda's tired. Wanda's tired. She's tired and like just being able to get away with shit. I also personally, I'm like,
01:27:30
Speaker
I would like to see like an anti-hero type character just like do whatever. And I feel like the girls have a whole lot of smoke for Wanda and I don't know if it's because she's one of the girlies or not, but I'm just like, you know?
01:27:45
Speaker
Let her be a bad bitch. I feel like when in the trailer, Rwanda was like, when you break rules, you're considered a hero. But when I break rules, I'm considered a villain. I was like, my nigga, you created a whole spell for a 16-year-old because his identity got exposed. And people were like, yes, she was manipulating people. And yes. That's not great. But also, she released some shit. I feel like a lot of the times,
01:28:14
Speaker
The rest of these Marvel niggas be doing shit. They be blowing people up. People be dying. Creating intelligence and then twice creating intelligence twice. That is a fucking something up. Either man, Tony talking to you. They just get to move about their lives. But, um, yeah, so there are already a lot of predictions about what's going to be happening. My, uh, more, uh, nerdy boyfriend that I'm going to say, um, cause he
01:28:43
Speaker
Catch me saying it. He told me about how there is, I don't- Let's hope he doesn't watch his episode. Like if it's like his first time watching this and he's, I'm listening to this and he's like, oh. Y'all don't, y'all don't. Okay. But no, because he told me about how there is a version of Iron Man, right? In the comic books that are called Superior Iron Man.
01:29:11
Speaker
And people are supposing that Superior Iron Man is gonna be in this Doctor Strange as like, you know, a parallel sort of Iron Man, right? So in the comics, there is a Iron Man in one of the multiverses or whatever that I think combines with a symbiote or some shit and like is like, of course, a super genius, but is like, just kind of a dick and like, you know, whatever. But
01:29:41
Speaker
they think that Superior Iron Man is going to show up in the Doctor Strange and it's going to be played by Tom Cruise because
01:29:50
Speaker
Iron Man, Tom Cruise was originally fought as before Robert Downey Jr. got the role, Tom Cruise was being considered to play Iron Man in the MCU. So people think that Tom Cruise is going to be showing up in Doctor Strange as this version of Iron Man. That would be interesting. And I think it really would be. And you know, I think we're gonna see
01:30:17
Speaker
a lot of interesting shit like that. So y'all let us know what your theories are. If you're a Marvel girl, you're a comic book girlie. I saw some of the girls were also like, once again, morning, Tony. Morning, Mr. Stark. And I was like, y'all, we've had two movies since then. You just have to let it go. We've had two movies, three series, and like, I'm like, where's everybody?
01:30:42
Speaker
Bitch, I'm sad about Peter. Like, I've honestly- Where are we gonna give him back? Like, has he caused forever? I don't really know. The girl, like, I don't know that- I feel like Sony and Marvel are still, like, doing the thing. They're figuring out how to make things happen. He also has said multiple times in multiple interviews that he does not want to be, you know, 30 years old playing Spider-Man. Yeah, I don't think he wants to play Spider-Man forever. Like, I don't think he's gonna give, like,
01:31:10
Speaker
an extenuous Robert Downey Jr. level. Or Chris Hemsworth. But I think what would be really interesting as far as talking about other Marvel things, I do feel like if they could keep his version of Peter Parker in the story long enough to introduce Miles, because Peter in many instances becomes Miles' mentor and shit like that.
01:31:38
Speaker
Um, if they keep him in the story long enough to like, you know, then usher in, you know, um, a Miles Morales into the MCU, I could really see that. Um, will they give niggas that, that will they give niggas that tune in next time? Right. They'd be acting like they don't even see it. And I also, so we never actually, maybe we should do like a Marvel review.
01:32:08
Speaker
Oh, that could be fun. That'd be fun. I think among review of the most recent movies, because I also did not. So I'm not going to hold y'all. Don't drag me, because I think. You'll be watching all of them in succession, though. Don't we do that anyway?
01:32:22
Speaker
I don't want something secessionist like this. I mean, I have. I've done it multiple times at this point. Because you a nerd, and you try to act like you not. Anyway, I'm not going to engage with that. But no, I think that, shut up. I never watched the Black Widow movie because I feel like they were fucking late in the day. Oh, I didn't. That wasn't.
01:32:43
Speaker
I mean, I didn't care about Black Widow as a character. You know what's funny? I actually really enjoy Black Widow. I didn't care about Hawkeye as a character. And I'm so mad that we were all Black Widow. The Hawkeye show wasn't bad, though. It wasn't. It was my third. It was my third. It was my third. It was fine. It was okay. Just fine. In the words of Bob the Drag Queen, it was just fine. It was just fine.
01:33:08
Speaker
It was just fine, but it was definitely better than the Falcon and the Winter Shoulders. Nigga Burt and the White Boy was not great. In the pits of hell for me. I don't think it was bad either. I actually really enjoyed it. But again, I think that my investment in Black Widow as a character
01:33:28
Speaker
Super like like it was but it was more than whatever the fuck they were trying to give us for homeboy I don't like I'm also gonna say this again. We are getting into marbles here We can have a whole podcast episode on just Marvel we go have to but um, I want to also be very clear that like for me, I feel like did
01:33:50
Speaker
Black Widow started off, and her, you know, her history is a little bit rocky. Momma figured out Momma got her shit together, Momma joined the A-Team, and she's been nagging her ever since. Hawkeye got mad that his family got dusted, and then spent five years running around killing people just to kill people. And it was like, oh, they're bad, so I'm gonna take them out. And niggas was like, that's not your job. And then we proceeded to save him. She came and got this idiot.
01:34:20
Speaker
Gave him a little bit of hope and he don't, girl, I was so happy. I really thought it would let him die. And I haven't read a comic book. And so I don't know if that actually like is what happened with his, with his, with her character, like the black little die at some point. I'm not sure if she does in the comic books, but I really don't like whatever they did with this. Cause bitch, we, I, I do not fuck with all kind like that to be having him being sacrificed over black widow.
01:34:49
Speaker
Yeah. And no, it's probably your head to the actor is absolutely trash, politically. But her character is, I mean, the options. Yeah, I think we'll definitely plan to do like a sort of Marvel. Are you a DC girlie? I don't feel like you're a DC girlie. Ew. Why'd you say it like that? Because, ew.
01:35:16
Speaker
Okay, girl, above and above. I am. But with at least maybe do a Marvel sort of quick sort of conversation about those things in the future. But that is all that we have. Wait, are you watching DC? I mean, I don't watch DC shows because they're like that. But I watch like the movies. I've seen like a lot.
01:35:44
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I mean not all of them. So don't stay with your chance. Do you fuck with them or no? I do. I do. Cause like, okay. So I watched the Snyder cut of the justice league and that was a fantastic film even though it was five hours long. And I watched every hour.
01:36:06
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will say that if it were not for my boyfriend who was more invested in showing it to me, I would not have watched it myself because I am not person. I mean, even now I just like am like, damn, why did infinity war or like fucking no way home have to be three hours? I don't fuck. But and it seems like, you know, the superhero movies are getting fairly long now. But um, you know, I liked it a lot. And like, I would love to be able to see like, I
01:36:35
Speaker
I don't even know what's happening with the flash force situation movie that's happening. I would have loved to see like more cyborg content. I know that the actor is, you know, dragging the the other director for Justice League and has been the black actor who plays cyborg in the Justice League and the ECEU. Because you know, that is problematic and racist.
01:37:05
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and, you know, everything else. But yeah, I've seen the things and I have enjoyed those versions of stuff. So, you know, I... I mean, I was watching... They're like gonna make like a live action Batgirl with like a black woman character. I'm good. I don't... There's like other shit going on, you know? Teen Titans... I was... So I did try to watch the Teen Titans show.
01:37:35
Speaker
You tried to watch the 18 Titans show. No, no. Which one was it? The live action one. Oh, the Titans one? I haven't seen it. And I... I haven't seen it. I... It's something.
01:37:52
Speaker
I will also say that it's gotten better. As they've had more, as they've had, as they've had more seats like this. I mean, they're like in the thirties now in the thirties since finished or something like that. They've gotten a lot better, but I was annoyed at Starfire's wig every day. That was my only, I had not watched it. That was my only thing. Cause I was like, the girls are not doing what they need to do with their hair. You never did what you were supposed to do with their hair.
01:38:22
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But it seemed like I think they might've gotten a new wig for mamas in the more recent situation. What, is it flat iron and straight? Because that's not the same thing. No, I don't think it is. I think they gave her a new curly situation. And a black girl to lay it down, please. I hope. I'm tired, please.
01:38:44
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But yeah, I'm sorry. This is us being nerds and nerding out. But, you know, we should have like a more nerd, a reflected...
Podcast Changes and Future Directions
01:38:56
Speaker
Well, I think now we have the freedom to do whatever. I feel like no holds Barbie can do what we want to do. It is our podcast. And after we finish our commitment to our funders, it'll 100% be free to do whatever.
01:39:13
Speaker
Anyway, um, so we're gonna, this has been going on for a very long time. So I don't have anything else to add. Um, so I think we could, you know, go ahead and wrap this whole up. Um, what do we have to say in closing? Um, I have something. So I don't know. Like, so the episode before this one, what was the last one we did? What was the one we did the last time?
01:39:42
Speaker
I don't remember. Wow. Tragi. Oh, that was a Black Mississippi one that we had been trying to for three, four years. Okay, yes. But you know why that was so like a Black. Yeah, because it's the third time. It's the 13,000th time. So if you all remember, Shelly came and did the podcast with us in December for our most, our most, our holiday episode. Her, her. The most wonderful queer of the year. I'm still very proud of that name.
01:40:09
Speaker
And no one called, that was fucking dope. And like, it was very clever and nobody gave, no one gave me my flowers for it, but whatever.
01:40:19
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Shelly is now our third co-host. She's coming on as a permanent third co-host. She was not in this episode, obviously, because we were talking about ballwind stuff. And Shelly was not involved with ballwind in that capacity. So she wasn't able to sit on this one. But when we do our next podcast episode, she will be another permanent fixture.
01:40:42
Speaker
And are we doing every two weeks like we said we were? Because if that's the case, we can announce that. We can talk about that later. She said, fuck that. Got it. I'm not talking about a word. She said, no ma'am. All right. So that is announcement. She's now our third co-host. Welcome, Shelly. Hand claps around for our homegirl.
01:41:06
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Oh, I can say, yeah, so as we've discussed in this episode, if you want to stay abreast with what's going on with us,
01:41:21
Speaker
Um, you will not be searching Baldwin second generation anymore. Oh no, you will be finding us through, you're going to have type it now listener at home. Um, the busy next time. All right. And that is T H E B U S S Y. Next time. Um, that is on Instagram. Um, as well as, well, I guess we'll make sure that it is still searchable through all of our, um,
01:41:51
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streamable platforms, but if you search the Lucy next time, yes, we will still be popping up. So yeah, so our socials are no longer Baldwin's second generation. But yeah, you can find us and follow us on the Instagrams. It's still the same page, but the handle has changed. And so are some of the content. Well, yeah, I had nothing else outside of that.
01:42:21
Speaker
So I think that's it and we will catch you bitches in a couple of next time. Bye.