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Godzilla
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News and Godzilla Minus One with Doc, Keck and Manny
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Transcript
Introductions and Episode Setup
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kevindoc81
All right, welcome back to Fright Central. I'm Doc back here again, as always, with Keck, and we have a special guest today, our old friend Manny. How's it going, buddy?
00:00:29
Manny
It's great man.
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Keck
yeah uh
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kevindoc81
That's good. How's it going, Keck?
00:00:34
Keck
bad yeah i wasn't some planning on it but many other fans but yeah anyway yep bad
00:00:36
kevindoc81
Okay, well, let's not get into it. yeah
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kevindoc81
Uh, I should also mention that, uh, it might not be good when we will talk about it when it
Production Staff Negotiations and AI in Movie Productions
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kevindoc81
comes up. But right now the, uh, you know, the IAS, I A T S E, you know, the, uh, production level people that are negotiating with the studios right now, they have not come to an agreement, but their, uh, contract isn't up till, uh, the end of July, but let's hope they can come to an agreement to avoid another strike this year. So, uh,
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Keck
Wait, us who's striking? Wait, what? Whoa.
00:01:17
kevindoc81
Nobody's striking right now. They're in negotiations. The, you know, the frontline people, the people that set up, you know, the camera operators and, the you know, the lighting grips and all those people.
00:01:27
Keck
Oh, the grips.
00:01:29
kevindoc81
Yeah.
00:01:30
Keck
Well, I mean, hey, the writers striked, the actors striked. I mean, I guess it's about time that it's like Revenge of the Grips, right?
00:01:37
Manny
Oh.
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kevindoc81
yeah that's what they should call it send that fucking headline into deadline but uh yeah like uh hopefully the studios learn their lessons from the the last two strikes and are actually going to come to a fucking agreement but yeah he'll
00:01:43
Manny
Now that's a freeze frame. No. Oh, I'm the one. What the fuck?
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Keck
Historically, in my opinion, the studios never learned their lessons. Manny, do you have any?
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Keck
We lost Manny.
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Manny
up
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kevindoc81
be back yeah there he is he'll just come and go it's fine
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Keck
He's back. yeah
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Manny
I have no idea what else will go.
00:02:11
Keck
Yeah, we're trying something new. We have like kind of like a three-way situation going, so, you know. But yeah, we were saying that I don't know where we left off, like where you cut out Manny, but we were talking about like how the writers, the actors, striked, and now the, what would you you call them, technicians, I guess?
00:02:25
Manny
That's right. Yeah. Yeah.
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kevindoc81
Uh, yeah, I guess, you know, the, the guys who do all the grunt work.
00:02:39
Keck
Yeah and get yeah getting none of the credit but usually bring a lot of the magic to the film.
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Manny
Yeah, right.
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kevindoc81
Yeah.
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Manny
Yeah, yep, yep, yep.
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kevindoc81
Yeah. They can't, movies can't be made without them. That's for sure.
00:02:49
Keck
Well you were saying that hopefully the studios learn their lesson and in my experience just based on like historical precedent it seems like the studios never really Completely learned their lesson. I don't know if Manny you have an opinion on that but like in my and Like people just care about profit Yeah, I agree I Hope you're right doc.
00:03:07
Manny
Yeah, they know their lesson. Yeah, yeah, they'd they'd rather sit on it till the last second and beyond.
00:03:17
kevindoc81
Yeah. Yeah, well, yeah well Sony Pictures, one of the heads from Sony and recently came out and said that like the they were going to use regenerative AI to, to am you know, further movies going forward.
00:03:19
Keck
I'm not trying to be like the downer the but I'm just saying like, you know I do not think that they've learned or less. I hope I'm wrong
00:03:41
kevindoc81
And I think right now that just kind of means like that's what they want to pick what's going to be successful or not. So, you know, because all their shit keeps failing because that they don't just, you know, hire good writers and good directors.
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Manny
Yeah.
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kevindoc81
They just want to make crap like fucking Madam Web.
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Manny
Yeah.
00:03:58
Keck
Yeah, it was Madam Web Bad.
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Manny
Yeah.
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kevindoc81
I don't know, I skipped it, but I heard it was...
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Manny
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
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Keck
Oh, yeah, the ladies in my life watch it and like it.
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kevindoc81
Yeah.
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kevindoc81
Really? Alright.
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Keck
And that that makes me think that it's bad.
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Manny
Yeah.
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Keck
So, you know, because they like bad things.
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kevindoc81
Yeah. I mean, they they probably have no idea yeah it's connection to Spider-Man or anything about the character at all, so...
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Manny
yeah excuse but
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Keck
now what what are
00:04:22
Keck
oh Shauna does. shaun Shauna does. she She does. But, well, I should... Nevermind. Anyway, moving on.
The Alien Franchise: Past, Present, and Future
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kevindoc81
Yeah, so the only other thing that I have, I don't know if you guys saw the most recent Alien Romulus trailer. Anybody?
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Manny
I did not look so secure.
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Keck
I did not.
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kevindoc81
Anybody?
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Keck
But I agree i recently just rewatched. I rewatched the entire Alien series, except I didn't get all the way through. The one where Ripley is, I think it was Alien Resurrection. It's where like Ripley was like half alien, like her blood was.
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Manny
Yeah, with one other writer.
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Keck
Yeah, that is that is that what was called?
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Manny
Correct.
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kevindoc81
ru or where she makes that backward shot and it goes in and that was like one take and Rob is like super fucking surprised.
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Keck
chris
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Manny
Yeah.
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Keck
Yeah.
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Keck
Yeah.
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kevindoc81
Yeah, it was all like real reaction.
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Manny
Yeah.
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Keck
yeah
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Manny
yeah Yeah. Yeah.
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Keck
Yeah, that that was that had one that I don't know if it it was I think it was Brad dwarf was in it and he was like real fucking big time But I've rewatched I rewatched the entire alien series Prometheus which I liked a lot better this time.
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Manny
yeah
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Keck
It was only the second time I saw it alien covenant and I even watched alien verse predator one and two and so I wasn't even aware of this this is all new information so no I have not seen the trailer when is this supposed to come out no shit so this is coming out soon
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kevindoc81
Uh, this fall, I believe October ish or, uh, my mistake and it could be August. I'm not sure. I wasn't looking at the release date, but, uh, a neutral.
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Manny
yeah it's imminent
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kevindoc81
Yeah. It's my Freddie Alvarez who, uh, directed the remake of evil dead and he did a don't breathe, which are both good movies.
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Manny
Yeah, it's imminent.
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Manny
They're good. Yeah, they're really good.
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kevindoc81
Yeah.
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Manny
Yep, I enjoy them.
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kevindoc81
I mean, I like Evil Dead Rise better than the the remake, but it's still, I guess it's more of a reboot, I mean, or does it technically take the same world?
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Manny
Yeah, as as far as recruits or needs go, and
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Keck
You are the latest remake of evil dead with what's her name with the beautiful red hair You liked evil dead rise the one before that more.
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kevindoc81
No, Evil Dead Rise is the more original one.
00:06:31
Keck
Oh Okay, yeah, oh that all right, we're on the same page I was about to say what the fuck all right
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kevindoc81
Yeah. Yeah. No, I liked that one better. But yeah, it's by the same director that the trailer just dropped and it takes place between alien aliens, you know, because there's that that time gap between because she was like, sleep or whatever.
00:06:47
Keck
yeah There is indeed.
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kevindoc81
Yeah, it looks very good. It definitely has that alien vibe to like practical effects.
00:06:54
Keck
It was 57 years, right? Yeah.
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kevindoc81
Yeah, yeah, it's got practical effects. I even saw like a behind the scenes where a guy was controlling one of the little face huggers and it was running around and jumping and shit.
00:07:06
Keck
Oh, dude, I'll have to check that out.
00:07:08
kevindoc81
It's fucking dope.
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Keck
It's probably up on YouTube, right?
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kevindoc81
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Keck
Yeah.
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kevindoc81
and they And then there was an interview with Noah Haley who's doing the Alien TV series.
00:07:21
Keck
Nah, I knew about that, yeah.
00:07:23
kevindoc81
Yeah, and Hulu plans for multiple recurring seasons and and they want to have the two seasons, at least the first two seasons come out with those little time gap as possible in 2025. So we could be getting the Alien series as soon as like early 2025 with like the second season coming out by like the fall. they said they're still filming, right now overseas. Uh, but that's supposed to wrap in July. Uh, Haley's already, uh, done directed the, the two, the few episodes that he, uh, you know, and plan on directing on the home and he's doing, but, uh, they also said like Ridley Scott's, uh, serves as a producer on it, but he had very little involvement and it was just like a series of small conversations about story themes and nothing more.
00:08:10
Keck
I was hoping that he was going to be the director.
00:08:13
Manny
I was hoping he would be uninvolved
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kevindoc81
No, I mean...
Exploring 'Raised by Wolves' and 'Fire in the Sky'
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Manny
entirely.
00:08:17
kevindoc81
Yeah, me too.
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kevindoc81
I'm with Manny.
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Keck
I i guess guess I'm a man on an island, but I really like well i've really liked Raised by Wolves as a concept.
00:08:19
Manny
I think he's perfectly lost his mind.
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Manny
yeah
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kevindoc81
Yeah, that that also felt...
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Keck
I just don't know what happened like they made like seven to eight episodes of like totally like groundbreaking like new meets old like fucking pure sci-fi and then it just went off the fucking rails into fucking
00:08:49
Keck
I don't know what's beyond crazy. I mean, it just became an abomination. why it was i the punish yeah Me and Doc were talking about that last gas.
00:08:55
Manny
And this goes on for me, on and on, and back and forth, and it even gets until the movie just sort of ends.
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kevindoc81
Yeah.
00:09:05
Keck
We were talking about Dr. Dolph Langer, and you know, is it cracking heads, full penetration. You know, it goes on for about 90 minutes or so, and then it just sort of ends.
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kevindoc81
Yeah.
00:09:13
Manny
Hold on,
00:09:17
Keck
Anybody doesn't know we're talking about stuff from Always Sunny and Philly. But, uh, yeah. the mean and That's how a lot of, I mean, that's how a lot of, like, films, I feel, like, should, like, if you can't figure out your ending, you should make it so it just sort of ends.
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Manny
yup.
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Manny
Yeah, just note the text in the second act, and...
00:09:36
Keck
Like, rather than try to, like, yeah, come out like this terrible, yeah.
00:09:42
Keck
Uh, although,
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Manny
But with the thing on the Alien front, there is a the yeah the comic release coming out that Paul Reiser was involved in.
00:09:48
kevindoc81
Oh, really.
00:09:51
Manny
Yeah, it's so what it's a Marvel what-if Alien project. I didn't see any details, but I did see Paul Reiser's name on the cover.
00:10:01
Keck
And this is this is totally new like are they in production or oh
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Manny
yeah I think it was just teased so it's coming out right no no they're they're the the like the cover of the comic was released and so it's gonna be released probably within the next couple of months yeah
00:10:11
Keck
Okay, so it's still in the rumor mill or like there's actually oh Okay, oh Cool cool
00:10:26
kevindoc81
So soon, okay. That's just something I did not have.
00:10:30
Keck
Yeah.
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kevindoc81
Thank you for that.
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Keck
And that is usually all on top of that type of shit.
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kevindoc81
Especially yeah with the alien shit. i mean I'm not on top of it when it comes to comic releases and stuff. I'm not always is a there for that information, but definitely movies and TVs and shows and shit like that.
00:10:44
Keck
Well, you know, i had gotten I had bought a new computer monitor when it was right when me and Manny were building this PC. I realized I didn't have a new monitor for it. And it came with a subscription three months for YouTube, YouTube TV. you know the whole thing without ads and YouTube has like its own TV channel.
00:11:06
Manny
Yeah.
00:11:09
Keck
And two times I watched Fire in the Sky up until the point where he had the memory. It's where he hides under the table and like the Antrimimus syrup is going in his mouth and then he like remembers being on the spaceship with the aliens which you know Travis Walton actually said and various interviews that that was like entirely not what happened when he remembered the experience but like I watched it two times and both times I was like you know what I'm gonna watch through this fucking shit both times I turned it off as soon as I saw the syrup in his mouth I just want to say that dude
00:11:53
Manny
i was gonna I was gonna say one of the benefits of Disney acquired.
00:11:56
Keck
that shit was scary
00:11:59
kevindoc81
Yeah.
00:12:00
Keck
Doc you said you said that you can't watch it again Why is that like there's almost no movie that I find that's too scary for me to watch but when it comes now I'm not talking about aliens like I'm not worried about xenomorphs coming down the earth to fight predators and getting loose on the human population and I'm not worried about like actual sci-fi aliens but if it's something about like alien abductions where like millions of people have claimed like under hypnosis and like I start seeing like terrifying shit like that where there's like a whole hint of realism as in I don't know whether or not they're all mentally ill or not and maybe you know there are bug eyed motherfuckers that are gonna come and get me from my bed one night
00:12:03
kevindoc81
Yeah, I can't go back and watch it. it's It still has that terrifying memory. I mean, I'm sure if I went and tried it, but I'd be like, that was the crap.
00:12:57
Keck
That, that fucks with me.
00:12:58
Manny
yeah
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kevindoc81
I think it's just because I saw it when I was younger.
00:13:00
Keck
And it fucks with you and it fucks with you. Why is it all fucked with us? Maybe we' we're all abducted and we all know, huh?
00:13:06
kevindoc81
It fucked with me because I saw it when I was young and that scene was fucking terrifying when I was young so I don't want to go back and watch it.
00:13:07
Keck
just then
00:13:11
Keck
Yeah, I saw it in theaters when I was 13, bro.
00:13:12
Manny
yeah
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Keck
I didn't sleep for like a fucking week.
00:13:18
kevindoc81
Yeah.
00:13:19
Manny
Yeah. Just the idea of getting tubes shoved down your throat, whether it's aliens or not, is terrifying.
00:13:20
Keck
yeah
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Keck
yeah didn't they able to put a needle in his eye like they took like a needle and just like like like yeah it was like a stabbing motion like just like like psycho like hey we're putting this needle in your eye here it comes
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Manny
so
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Manny
Yeah.
00:13:34
Manny
yeah
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Manny
How hard can we fuck with you?
00:13:41
Keck
Yeah, exactly.
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kevindoc81
yeah
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Keck
and Travis Walton the lawyer said on various interviews, even on show Rogan, he was like, yeah, that was just total fucking horse shit. Like, that's not what happened at all. But like, you know, the studio got it and they just fucking basically probed me once again,
00:14:01
kevindoc81
Analite.
The Impact and Evolution of the Alien Franchise
00:14:01
Keck
you know, so anyway.
00:14:03
Manny
Well, back to the alien stuff.
00:14:04
Keck
but
00:14:06
kevindoc81
There.
00:14:07
Manny
One of the good things about Disney acquiring Fox Studios is the potential for the comics to be so get started again. I'm definitely excited about that.
00:14:18
Keck
For you.
00:14:20
Manny
Because I think i think those comics, those Dark Horse comics were great, between an Alien Predator and even the Roblopin and Temergy.
00:14:21
kevindoc81
Yeah.
00:14:26
Keck
Yeah. Alright, yeah.
00:14:31
kevindoc81
the
00:14:31
Keck
Yeah, i'll give I'll give you that because that's the only comic. The Predator comics are the only comics that I still because of the Bad Blood Predator, which like takes place right down here in the.
00:14:40
Manny
ye
00:14:42
Keck
You know about the bad boy, they like the insane, the mentally unhinged.
00:14:44
Manny
yeah yeah
00:14:46
Keck
Yeah, we should talk about that more. But that's pretty cool. Yeah.
00:14:50
kevindoc81
Yeah, the only thing I'm a little worried about is that the TV series supposed to take place on Earth like decades before the first movie, but he did say he when he thinks of alien he doesn't he doesn't want to go towards like the Prometheus style of stylized he what he likes that retro three of them.
00:15:06
Manny
ye Yeah.
00:15:08
Keck
A lot of people will be relieved by that.
00:15:09
Manny
Yeah.
00:15:11
kevindoc81
Yeah, he likes the retrofuturism. He was like, I want to see like those old screenings with the little, uh, you know, glyphs coming up and I hear the keyboard.
00:15:16
Manny
yeah
00:15:17
Keck
Yeah.
00:15:18
Manny
these
00:15:19
kevindoc81
He's like, that's in the hallways and everything. And that's what the new movie looks like too.
00:15:22
Manny
Yeah.
00:15:23
kevindoc81
Very retro. It looks very in theme with the old alien movies and not with the, uh, the newer stuff.
00:15:25
Manny
yeah But yeah, the cassette futurism.
00:15:29
kevindoc81
So I'm excited. for Yeah, I am excited for the new Alien stuff going forward, but we're not here to talk about Alien, we're here to talk about Godzilla, specifically Godzilla minus one.
00:15:41
Keck
many you saw it three or four times in the four I said I thought maybe I was exaggerating and it was two in color or three in color and one in black and white or was it two and two wait wait one in color and three in black and white or three in color one in black okay yeah so yeah obviously many uh
00:15:41
kevindoc81
and
00:15:44
Manny
Four times. Three.
00:15:55
Manny
got three three Three and one in black and white. yeah Three color.
00:16:11
Keck
was very enthusiastic about this film.
00:16:14
Manny
Yeah, I literally waited all my life for this film and It immediately took its place right next to terminator 2 as my favorite film of all time Yeah Yeah,
00:16:14
Keck
And this... Really?
00:16:24
kevindoc81
Oh, well.
00:16:26
Keck
Well, get can you talk can you elaborate on that? Like a little bit more? Like what was so like... and like I mean, obviously you're a fan of like the Godzilla universe, like, you know, Hothra and...
00:16:31
Manny
yeah always been always been but uh,
00:16:36
Manny
yeah yeah always been always been but
00:16:41
kevindoc81
American films, like, I don't know if any of the videos go by, but, uh...
00:16:42
Manny
I would say it's me. Oh, oh, you got a couple sirens.
00:16:48
kevindoc81
Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, L.A.
00:16:50
Manny
Yeah, GTA.
00:16:51
kevindoc81
Yeah.
00:16:53
Keck
And that's basically where he lives.
00:16:56
kevindoc81
You know, the Redondo Beach Hood.
00:16:56
Keck
but
00:17:00
kevindoc81
But, uh, I'll backtrack a little bit before we
00:17:00
Manny
Yeah, you get five stars coming after you.
00:17:03
kevindoc81
Yeah, I want to backtrack a little bit before we get into the new Godzilla. What was your like earliest memory of watching Godzilla? Do you remember your first Godzilla movie?
00:17:14
Manny
I don't remember my first Godzilla movie it was probably Godzilla 1984
Nostalgic Look at Monster Movies: Godzilla and Night of the Lepus
00:17:19
Manny
or 85 depending on who you talked to but uh yeah so that level that more serious Godzilla was definitely what I was yearning for and uh yeah I mean aside from the fact that I took mushrooms the first time I saw it uh the Godzilla minus one but I
00:17:38
kevindoc81
Okay, not in 1985 when you were like three years old.
00:17:39
Keck
Modesto, of course.
00:17:42
Manny
Yeah, no, I was I was not five years old taking mushroom, but yeah Godzilla 1985 Was definitely my first one because that's the first time I remember having it on the cassette But you know back in the day they used to play all the old ones on TV one time or another so I was always a Godzilla lifer and
00:17:46
kevindoc81
Yeah.
00:17:58
Keck
Yeah.
00:18:00
kevindoc81
Yeah, how about UK?
00:18:03
kevindoc81
Yeah.
00:18:03
Keck
I can't remember the title of the first Godzilla movie I saw. I'm not really sure if it had a title. I'm not sure if it was a feature-length film or if it was the Japanese series. Because if you remember in Japan at one point, they had like, I don't know, maybe it was a series of films. But it seemed the way they aired them, they used to put them on like AMC and stuff like that.
00:18:33
Manny
yes
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Keck
And I think even sometimes Turner classic movies.
00:18:33
Manny
Yes.
00:18:37
Manny
Yep. Yep. Yep.
00:18:38
Keck
the among And they were like, I guess it was what was it late 1950s, early 1960s Japan. and they used to and like Godzilla used to have like this like theme music where it was like a bell like he would be like strolling in the town and it'd be like and like all this and you know you'd have like Mothra attacking and Godzilla battling all this was he a friend was he a fellow but like my earliest Godzilla memories come from
00:19:02
Manny
Yeah.
00:19:11
Keck
Japan when Godzilla first came to the big screen. I mean yeah, that's I used to watch it like with my grandfather and stuff like that because you know he Well, I mean he was rather racist, but you know he said Godzilla was one of the good things that came out of Japan and and you know fighting in World War II, I guess he had some issues. But anyway, I used to watch it with him, and I really enjoyed it.
00:19:36
kevindoc81
Yeah.
00:19:40
Keck
But I can't say whether or not like my first Godzilla experience was a movie, because it seemed like it was almost like a series of like a series before there were series, where it was just like it came on like a different Godzilla seemed to come on like once a week. And it would be...
00:20:00
Manny
that They were just airing the they were just airing the movies and they're all relatively short movies Yeah Well, this is how hardcore of a fan I was my first job was at Best Buy and and they released Destroy All Monsters on DVD and it came with the soundtrack, which I just would listen to on rotation all the time, made every drive epic.
00:20:00
kevindoc81
yeah i think
00:20:05
Keck
Yeah, yes but they yeah they were yes they were relatively short and they seemed like almost like a television show to me. and yeah and But I mean, full disclosure, Mothra was always my favorite. and yeah
00:20:24
kevindoc81
Yeah, I think I just...
00:20:41
Keck
that.
00:20:42
kevindoc81
I think my earliest, but I don't remember what which Godzilla fan movie was my earliest, because I used to watch them with my dad, but I remember the first giant monster movie that I watched that got me into it was the not Godzilla at all, but Night of the Lepus, along with the giant bunny rabbits.
00:20:58
Manny
oh
00:20:59
Keck
Oh yeah, I watched that with you and with your dad. Your dad came like, we were like, we were like, yo, Ken, check this out. And yeah, it had the, yeah, Night of the Lepus with the shiny bunny rabbits.
00:21:10
Manny
You know, I watched with my family.
00:21:11
Keck
Yeah.
00:21:12
kevindoc81
Yeah, that was the first one I'd watched.
00:21:12
Keck
that always like The first time you saw Night of the Lepus was with your dad showing it to you?
00:21:14
kevindoc81
I'd watched with him back in the back when it was on. And I was like, what is this? It was it was with my dad.
00:21:23
Keck
Oh, I didn't realize that.
00:21:23
kevindoc81
Yeah. When I was younger. Yeah. I showed it to you to to be like, yo, you got to check out.
00:21:28
Keck
yeah no i thought it was something like you discovered and like something you showed to your dad as like yo check this out i didn't realize like dad was like yo like come here son watch this the bunnies yeah well i knew that
00:21:29
kevindoc81
Yeah.
00:21:37
kevindoc81
Oh, no. Yeah.
00:21:44
kevindoc81
No, because he was a big Star Trek original series guy and generations. So that's how I got into Star Trek was through him. And because, which character were one of the characters from Star Trek was in Night of the Lepus. I believe it was the doc, the doctor.
00:22:00
Manny
those
00:22:03
kevindoc81
He's in Night of the Lepus. So that's why that was his connection to that movie.
00:22:11
kevindoc81
Yeah, but, uh,
00:22:13
Keck
Yeah, I would say the last time I saw Night of the Lepus was probably in the early 2000s.
00:22:13
kevindoc81
but
00:22:21
Keck
So yeah, it's been 20 years for me too. I watched it with Kevin. It's the one and only time I saw. I can't say that I would. The only way I'd probably watch Night of the Lepus again is if I wanted to like expose like, you know, some like, you know, my friend's children or something to it. Like, you know, I mean, it's like a joke or something. I could not see myself sitting down and sitting through a night of the deepest as like an adult. I I can't.
00:22:50
kevindoc81
yeah
00:22:52
Keck
But I would definitely if I was with children, I would.
00:22:53
kevindoc81
yeah
00:22:56
Keck
Yeah.
00:22:56
kevindoc81
Then I remember seeing that shitty ma Matthew Broderick, Godzilla 98, American film in theaters, but then i I remember not liking that one.
00:23:03
Keck
yeah I remember liking that one.
00:23:04
Manny
Thank you.
00:23:09
Keck
That's the last Godzilla movie that I saw. The last Godzilla movie that I watched from beginning to end, because I really liked the trailer for it, where those guys are out on like the dock. I remember thinking it was cool, and I liked Matthew Broderick. I mean, you know, in that time, who didn't? I mean, he was Ferris Bueller. And fucking, but from that movie until Godzilla-verse Kong.
00:23:31
kevindoc81
Yeah.
00:23:40
Keck
Whichever one that had the little brat from Stranger Things in it. That was the last Godzilla movie I had actually sat and watched all the way through.
00:23:53
kevindoc81
Oh, so I remember seeing Godzilla 2000 in theaters, and that was the first Toho Japanese Godzilla I got to see in theaters, so I was excited for that. And I remember liking that one. And then I saw Final Wars in theaters. I did not get a chance to see Shin Godzilla, which i'm still I still haven't seen that one yet, but I hear that one's really good.
00:24:14
Manny
Same.
00:24:15
Keck
you saw many okay yeah I figured you would see I figured that you had seen every Godzilla movie there was made available just now
00:24:16
Manny
I have not.
00:24:19
kevindoc81
You haven't seen that one either? i thought you would I thought you would have seen that. I was going to ask you questions about that.
00:24:29
Manny
I think I've seen just about all the others.
00:24:32
kevindoc81
OK. Have you seen all all the American ones as well?
00:24:36
Manny
The American ones. Oh yeah. 100%. Yep.
00:24:39
kevindoc81
but you haven't You said you hadn't seen Monarch yet.
00:24:42
Manny
Monarch. Yeah.
00:24:43
kevindoc81
OK. So you still got to watch that. my
00:24:45
Keck
Yeah, we're now we were me and the Manny, we were going to watch the first episode, but I don't know. We had kind of had like a rough night, and we ended up like not watching it the next day. But i I watched the first episode, and I told Kevin it just wasn't for me. But like I would highly advise you to check it out, because you know being such like a fan of those type of movies, you probably would appreciate it more than me. I am gonna give it, we talked about it in the last cast, we did. I am gonna give it one more episode. Dude, it's got Kurt Russell in it.
00:25:21
kevindoc81
Yeah, he only shows up at the very end of the first episode, but then he's
00:25:21
Manny
Yeah.
00:25:21
Keck
so
00:25:24
Keck
So...
Deep Dive: 'Godzilla Minus One' Analysis and Themes
00:25:24
kevindoc81
in like the rest of the series.
00:25:25
kevindoc81
So I was like, you've got to at least watch the second episode. that You get more people.
00:25:27
Keck
Yeah.
00:25:28
kevindoc81
You haven't even done a full Kurt Russell yet.
00:25:30
Keck
Yeah, I don't know.
00:25:30
kevindoc81
So.
00:25:32
Keck
I felt like Kurt Russell was in like the whole first episode. Like he was in the very beginning and then they're like carrying like that robot head towards the end of the first. Well, I don't want to spoil anything for Manny, but, you know, it
00:25:48
kevindoc81
yep like half the fucking season or something like that because it opens with like John Goodman from Calling Skull Island is the opening of that as a scene and it and it ends that season ends with I mean that first episode ends with like the kids meeting Kurt Russell in that like retirement home area that's the first episode yeah but only at the very end
00:26:13
Keck
Kurt Russell was in the first episode.
00:26:17
Keck
Yeah, well, i I don't know. I remember Kurt Russell and there was magic everywhere.
00:26:25
kevindoc81
in your pants. better But that the yeah, the series takes place after the the Godzilla most recent Godzilla one with Aaron Taylor Johnson and Bryan Cranston, it takes place like right after that.
00:26:27
Manny
yeah
00:26:39
Manny
Okay.
00:26:43
kevindoc81
And, i am it you know, it involves Kong Skyline, because since that takes place before, that takes place in what, like the 70s, right, like during the Vietnam War.
00:26:52
Keck
Well, yeah, that's an injustice.
00:26:53
Manny
Yeah.
00:26:53
Keck
I did not see the one with Samuel L. Jackson. That's something I need to, I've realized that's something I need to remedy.
00:26:56
kevindoc81
that one's fantastic
00:27:00
kevindoc81
yeah
00:27:01
Keck
I'm kind of embarrassed. I haven't, it's just, you know, things have been a little crazy for me recently, but that is definitely on my list at the top of my list. you know
00:27:12
kevindoc81
Yeah, that was really good. I mean, I enjoyed, uh, King of Monsters for like the, the, I thought the the battles were great. That's all I was going in for at that point with the American version. So I was like, I just want good Godzilla battles. And then it was like Godzilla versus Kong. I was like, all right, and they're fighting Mechagodzilla. I was like, awesome, this is fun. And then like the, the new one, I even thought the new one, Godzilla X Kong was fun, especially when the fucking Kong picks up that small little ape and starts beating the other apes with the small one.
00:27:40
Manny
Yeah, he was just twirling that little, that little shit.
00:27:41
kevindoc81
my favorite part of the whole fucking movie. Are there gonna be long ranges in that rock, Adam?
00:27:49
Keck
Well, I did see.
00:27:49
kevindoc81
yeah
00:27:49
Keck
Yeah, I did see that part. Yeah.
00:27:51
kevindoc81
The most recent Godzilla X-Con.
00:27:53
Manny
But the
00:27:54
Keck
Which film was that from?
00:27:56
Manny
new
00:28:00
Keck
Well I must have seen, because I remember thinking of a Game of Thrones when the White Walkers attack and the giant picks up like that huge log and is hitting at the army of the dead and I remember thinking of that when I saw that scene.
00:28:01
kevindoc81
from
00:28:20
Keck
If you're familiar with what I'm talking about, if you go Game of Thrones, it was when they went to the northern language, like, yeah, stronghold.
00:28:23
Manny
Yeah, yep, yep, yep.
00:28:24
kevindoc81
Yeah.
00:28:29
Manny
The ice wall, yeah.
00:28:31
kevindoc81
yeah
00:28:32
Keck
And I remember thinking you know reminiscing of that with that. So yeah, I must have seen that scene. i
00:28:39
kevindoc81
Well, I definitely described it to you.
00:28:39
Manny
So I, yeah, have I have a massive gripe with GodzillaXcom.
00:28:41
kevindoc81
That's for sure. We definitely talked about it.
00:28:43
Keck
Well,
00:28:47
Keck
Oh I was just kind of like interested in because Manny said that like it's up like it is you said it's tied with Terminator 2 for the best it's minus one yeah well yeah no I've realized that I get that completely but I'm saying Godzilla minus one which is the topic right now
00:28:56
Manny
That minus one minus one Yeah Yeah hundred percent
00:28:59
kevindoc81
Yeah. until minus one but that but that's said That's unrelated to the American rope ones that like, yeah.
00:29:12
kevindoc81
Yeah.
00:29:13
Keck
you said that it's tied with Terminator 2 for your favorite film of all time. I'm kind of interested in why that was because I will be honest there was a certain part well actually there were maybe two points in Godzilla because Godzilla was almost like sort of like a metaphor
00:29:37
Manny
no yeah
00:29:37
Keck
for what the Japanese people experienced post-World War II.
00:29:38
Manny
yeah
00:29:44
Keck
And there were a few times in the film where you know I felt, I'll just be honest, I was a little bit emotional.
00:29:53
Manny
No, yeah, yeah i got I got emotional tons of times during that movie.
00:29:57
Keck
And I thought it was really interesting how Godzilla was kind of used in like, you know, just it wasn't did it going into a thinking of it as a Godzilla movie.
00:29:57
Manny
but i won't
00:30:03
kevindoc81
Thank
00:30:12
Keck
When I came out of it, I was just like, wow, that was something that I've in any Godzilla movie I've ever seen or heard of before. Like, I was like, wow, that was completely unique. That's what I know.
00:30:27
Manny
Yeah, that was be getting back to the roots of Godzilla.
00:30:29
kevindoc81
you
00:30:31
Manny
Godzilla was a metaphor for allegory for the nuclear bomb. And and and here it was this was like more like a war movie that dealt with post-traumatic stress syndrome and the loss and tragedy of
00:30:36
Keck
Yeah, suffering, yeah. Yeah.
00:30:48
Manny
you know, loved ones and the the guilt that but the main character felt for survivors
00:30:56
Keck
That he let his country down, yeah.
00:30:56
kevindoc81
you
00:30:59
kevindoc81
you do You mean that coward?
00:31:00
Keck
Yeah.
00:31:02
kevindoc81
He was a coward, the whole movie.
00:31:02
Manny
Yeah. like
00:31:06
kevindoc81
I was like, that goddamn coward.
00:31:07
Keck
Yeah.
00:31:07
Manny
yeah
00:31:08
Keck
and but there was such a I mean you could I mean just struggling with like extreme depression myself like I i could feel it just like vibing off of the guy like you know they did an excellent job not only like the actors who I thought were all excellent I really like that uh
00:31:20
Manny
Oh, yeah.
00:31:31
Keck
kind of quirky doctor how he like came to life and they found that he was kind of like a bigwig with the government and also I mean what I didn't realize because I ended up watching the movie twice because the first time like I wasn't like I didn't feel like I was vested enough in it but like I thought it was interesting how like at the end the government was kind of like, yeah, we don't know what the fuck to do. And it was sort of like the people rising up and taking back because it was done by private industry, really.
00:32:06
Manny
oh
00:32:08
Keck
Like defeating Godzilla. the Do you disagree or you know how they kind of like met up and had those meetings and the government and the army, those were like retired admirals and stuff. like It was like the people taking back like their island and doing what you know they felt that the government failed to do.
00:32:22
Manny
Right. Right.
00:32:30
Manny
Yeah. Yeah, it was redemption.
00:32:33
Keck
like you know Yeah, exactly.
00:32:35
Manny
got A lot of lot of it was redemption, yeah.
00:32:38
Keck
Yeah.
00:32:39
Manny
and but yeah, seeing that it was, uh, and I guess, you know, we're all, you know, close in age and we're kind of like the last children of the like cold war.
00:32:52
Manny
So it was just like that, you know, the, the, the, the nuclear stuff is always like, but which is partially why T2 is up there for many reasons, but that's partially that too, that, that is a reality for us. And that's like, It's just one of those things that's imprinted, that's always there, and that's the horrifying part.
00:32:52
Keck
Yeah.
00:33:13
Keck
Yeah. I also like the isolationism part of it too because like the people of Japan like they were saying like you know like alright there is this prehistoric monster that's like attacking Japan and they were like yeah the Americans cannot be involved because like they're worried about like you know the arms race and like you know the Soviets and stuff like that but I mean it's total bullshit because America would be interested in the Soviets
00:33:26
kevindoc81
you
00:33:34
Manny
It's obvious.
00:33:43
Keck
would be interested in the discovery of a dinosaur that has like the power to like basically shoot nukes out of People didn't want to think about what they had done to Japan, which was recently very well illustrated in Oppenheimer.
00:34:01
Manny
Yeah.
00:34:05
Manny
Yeah.
00:34:06
Keck
you know it it was like
00:34:07
kevindoc81
It's a good double feature. I'm a climber into Godzilla minus one
00:34:10
Keck
And the guy yeah that would yeah because i was thinking about often but it was just like you know like you know Oppenheimer saying like you know i feel like i bought people did not want to come to the realization as to what really was unleashed on Japan. And I thought that they did a very good job of telling that story without it being like anti-American or anti-Russian propaganda.
00:34:41
Keck
You know what I mean?
00:34:41
Manny
right
00:34:42
Keck
They did it in a way where it was just like, you know, this is how it was for us.
00:34:44
Manny
Right Yeah, the interface is alone
00:34:47
Keck
And I thought that was very powerful. Yeah, yeah, exactly.
00:34:51
kevindoc81
Yeah.
00:34:53
Keck
Yeah, that so yes I feel that.
00:34:53
kevindoc81
Like when like going going into this movie, I was not like, I was like, all right, I'm going to see a fucking Godzilla movie. You know, we've gotten tons of these over the years to various degrees, especially like Toho. It ends up being a lot of like boardroom conversations of like, how do we stop this thing or whatever? then I think Final Wars had like aliens and shit. And it was like, so I'm like, alright, I'm just going in expecting, you know, what fucking Godzilla. I just want to see Godzilla fucking wreck, fucking wreck shit.
00:35:25
kevindoc81
That's all I'm expecting.
00:35:25
Manny
Yeah.
00:35:26
kevindoc81
Good Godzilla monster shit. Now I get in there and I'm watching.
00:35:28
Keck
Well, he did do that. He definitely did that.
00:35:30
kevindoc81
Yeah.
00:35:32
kevindoc81
in there that suddenly like all right he shows up in that like the first like five minutes fucking amazing and then suddenly like you're thrown into like this post-war movie about uh you know a kamikaze pilot who like didn't you know didn't want to go through that he just wanted to live and then he goes back home and like people are calling him a fucking coward and shit because he's like you know He was like, oh, we love that your place to your home wouldn't be destroyed if you didn't go through with this shit. And it's like, that's fucking bullshit.
00:36:01
Manny
Yeah, yeah, yeah
00:36:02
kevindoc81
Like, it would have been fucking different anyway. But then like, yeah, then like him, you know, helping helping that other girl out who had helped the baby out. And then like, I love i loved also how they showed like the passage of time with like, her like and went for like it like this hunt to like, it's going to be built up as well. And then like, and it's just like loss.
00:36:21
Manny
Yeah.
00:36:23
kevindoc81
I feel like as soon as like shit's starting to get like good for him, like Godzilla fucking attacks and he goes into like, save her and like, the shit gets fucked up.
00:36:25
Manny
Right, right, yeah.
00:36:32
kevindoc81
Like that's by my favorite fucking scene. Like you're watching like this hardcore drama and then every fucking 10 minutes Godzilla shows up. and And like half the time you forget Godzilla's even in this movie, and but when he does show up, he's front and fucking center and he's fucking drawing shit.
00:36:42
Manny
right right yeah
00:36:47
Manny
yeah yeah the Yeah, the humanistic element of the ground level of rebuilding after the devastation of war. and So it was like total the rebuilding of self and society and then tragedy again and then redemption.
00:37:11
kevindoc81
Yeah, and I liked how they fit in the whole part where like, they it kind of went into like, okay, him getting another job and what was the job is like post war cleanup, we have to get rid of these mines and shit like that. I love like, that aspect of it.
00:37:24
Keck
Yeah.
00:37:26
kevindoc81
And that's how like, they get back out on the boat and Godzilla is in again. And it's like, yeah, I thought that was like, super fucking cool it's like oh we got this specialized boat and it's just like this wooden bed and then we fucking up and he's he's fucking good at the being the gunner and shit like that and like so yeah i can't rebuild it his life and it's just destroyed again
00:37:33
Manny
Yes. When? When?
00:37:42
Keck
and
00:37:47
Keck
There was an interesting dynamic to between him and the woman who had the She found the child on she didn't like abduct that child from but Yeah, it was left to her so she but there was a part where well when he believed her to be dead and And he was criticized by his employees for, like I guess, not marrying her or something like that.
00:37:58
Manny
No. The child was left to her by her dying parents.
00:38:02
kevindoc81
Yeah.
00:38:19
Manny
Right. Yes. Yeah.
00:38:23
Keck
And to me, that like brought the memory of like him like kind of like still struggling with his own like internal cowardice.
00:38:35
Manny
Yeah.
00:38:35
Keck
like you know I mean because like he obviously felt like he would like we just said the kamikaze by what why the fuck you would like want to like volunteer to do that I mean well it was just their culture the way they wage warfare that goes back like you know along I mean that's a whole that's a history lesson but like yeah
00:38:56
kevindoc81
Yeah, I don't know how much of it. It's volunteer as much as it's like national pride or being forced on him like if he joined or whatever, he yeah.
00:39:02
Keck
Yeah, well, yeah, I'm not really, I mean, you, we would have to get into a whole thing of about that, which I'm not trying to do, but like, it was still like this, like sort of like internal strife he had within him, like a failure to commit because like, you know, he loved her and he was like afraid to tell her his feelings.
00:39:16
Manny
yeah Yeah, he's... Yeah.
00:39:26
Keck
He failed on the battlefield, you know, he failed at, you know, he was failing at life in general except to do that extremely dangerous job which like you said the survivors guilt like you know going out and looking for mines you're most likely going to die
00:39:46
Manny
yeah yeah
00:39:47
Keck
And then they find out that, like, oh, not only are you going out to find mines, but by the way, that creature that, like, you first encountered, like, has gotten, like, I think about two years had passed when they encamped from when he encountered him on this small island in the very beginning.
00:40:03
kevindoc81
Yeah.
00:40:04
Manny
Yeah
00:40:10
Keck
I think it was, uh, that was 1945 and I think it was 1947 when Godzilla is seen again, right?
00:40:12
Manny
yeah. yeah
00:40:18
Manny
right ye
00:40:18
Keck
yeah, so in two years that monster, you know, had like doubled or tripled maybe in size.
00:40:26
Keck
And, like, they were like, you know, not only are you going out here to get mines, by the way, like, there's a prehistoric monster out here that is just an unstoppable force.
00:40:32
Manny
yeah
00:40:37
Keck
All, like, the secret agencies know about it, and, like, you're just out here, you know, so...
00:40:42
Manny
Yeah. Hold as long as you can.
00:40:45
Keck
Yeah, I mean, yeah, it was a very... I went in totally blind.
00:40:49
Manny
so
00:40:51
Keck
I went in totally blind. I had known from you that Manny, I mean, I had known from you that you had told me it was like really epic and really deep and it's not what you think. And that gave me some expectation that I was going to see something where it wasn't just all about Godzilla, but like it still caught me by surprise of the originality.
00:41:11
Manny
Just, so.
00:41:18
Keck
of you know the film, the concept. I mean, yeah, it was just, it was very well done.
00:41:25
Manny
Yeah, it was definitely, you know, totally moving from beginning to end.
00:41:29
Keck
Yeah. yeah
00:41:30
Manny
And when when they're out on the boat and they're being chased, and then you you kind of forget for a second that right when the the naval ship comes to their aid, and that's that was just like a total, yeah, moment, you know, where you just like mated, that help finally came from them. And then for that hope to be dashed away so quickly,
00:41:51
kevindoc81
and
00:41:54
kevindoc81
yeah like Yeah, Godzilla fucking just wrecks that fucking ship.
00:41:57
Manny
Yeah.
00:41:58
Keck
Well, because he's like he's basically Jason.
00:41:58
kevindoc81
so the like
00:42:01
Manny
Yeah, yeah. I mean, heat he tanked his cannons.
00:42:02
Keck
He's a non-stop killing machine.
00:42:07
Manny
He totally tanked those cannons. to You know, you see them go down and you think, oh, maybe maybe they'll be able to get away.
00:42:09
Keck
Maybe,
00:42:14
Keck
maybe but you know dealing with dark powers of this nature.
00:42:14
Manny
Absolutely not. Absolutely not.
00:42:17
Keck
yeah
00:42:20
kevindoc81
yeah anytime like anybody would like try to like fuck with godzilla and like including the america the american ones i just be like what are you doing man just get out of his fucking way dude like you're just gonna anger him worse like you're not gonna beat him
00:42:30
Keck
yeah yeah it's the best way you can like defeat Godzilla is by like just ignoring Godzilla yeah yeah evacuation plans like get out of his past out of his path like just don't fuck with him like yeah
00:42:33
Manny
Yeah.
00:42:40
kevindoc81
yeah just let him do his thing he'll go back and rest eventually just leave him the fuck alone
00:42:44
Manny
Yeah. He's basically giant Karen. and You just deal with them by not dealing with them.
00:42:59
kevindoc81
Yeah.
00:42:59
Keck
Yeah, I mean, you it's like playing Rosham Bow where, you know, you let him kick you and then you just run away. You know, it's just, yeah, you basically just don't want to fuck with him. Yeah, that's the only thing. And yet he will eventually, that's kind of like a theme. He will eventually go away. But I mean, in this situation, they, well, they had fucked with him too much. And he wasn't planning on leaving until so I mean, you know, but Yeah, it was just really well done now.
00:43:31
kevindoc81
Thank
Technical Achievements and Narrative Speculations in 'Godzilla Minus One'
00:43:34
Keck
I also was very impressed by especially the the CGI When he did the blast I how all the spikes like on his back lit up I'm just talking about like
00:43:45
Manny
yeah
00:43:52
Keck
the visual effects because i was led to believe that they spent a lot less on visual effects in this film as they did the previous godzilla verse con yeah in total that one was like something like 90 million right dad
00:43:54
Manny
yeah
00:43:54
kevindoc81
you.
00:44:03
Manny
Yeah Yeah, I mean the 15 million dollar budget and in total so and
00:44:09
kevindoc81
possiblyly
00:44:12
Manny
and And correct me if I'm wrong, but then the director do all of it himself Yeah, oh Yeah, yeah, yeah, but the but yeah minus one was a 15 million dollar budget in total I
00:44:17
Keck
i don't know doc
00:44:19
kevindoc81
Yeah, know. No, the the American ones are made for like over a hundred million. ease one one point Yeah.
00:44:29
kevindoc81
Yeah. the Even the director was like, I don't know if it was that much, but like, yeah.
00:44:30
Keck
Yeah.
00:44:33
Keck
Well, my point is, is I was, for what they had, I was very impressed with like the visual effects.
00:44:43
Manny
Oh, yeah.
00:44:43
kevindoc81
Yeah, I mean, especially with like, if you're gonna, yeah, especially if you're gonna spend that much money, like, I mean, you got like these, I've never seen these actors before.
00:44:43
Keck
And, you know, because i it was high class CGI.
00:44:49
Manny
Yeah.
00:44:54
kevindoc81
I mean, maybe they're big in in Japan, but like, no pun intended.
00:44:57
Keck
yeah
00:44:58
kevindoc81
But uh, like,
00:44:59
Keck
Well, I think that they have to be somewhat established in Japan. I think I did see the doctor, the court doctor I was talking about, like the professor. I think I have seen him in other films before in like maybe an American film. or another Japanese film because I do watch like certain Japanese cinema but for the most part I'm just going to guess that they had to be somewhat established in Japan because they were very talented actors.
00:45:18
Manny
Thank
00:45:33
kevindoc81
Yeah, yeah.
00:45:34
Keck
or i could be totally wrong and they could have all just been first timers and all japanese actors are just fucking brilliant i don't know but i'm going to just i mean i'm just going to assume that they were somewhat known
00:45:34
kevindoc81
they were Yeah.
00:45:45
Manny
you. Definitely well known. Yeah. yeah
00:45:51
Keck
Yeah, so I mean, but yeah I'm not saying like I'm an expert on Japanese, but I recently had watched a movie called Drops of God, which could not be more different from Godzilla.
00:46:00
Manny
Yeah
00:46:04
Keck
It's about wine tasting. And one of the guys that was in Drops of God was also in Godzilla. I'm not going to go into that sidebar. Obviously, a movie about wine tasting and a movie about monsters don't really go with the program. But the yeah.
00:46:18
kevindoc81
drops a consumable.
00:46:19
Keck
I don't know. I'd have to check their IMDB profile. Actually, that's something I wish I had done before we started the cast this evening because I would actually like to know that that's like a question that's pondering in my mind right now. But regardless, I thought the movie was well directed. I thought the special effects were great. I thought the acting was great. I thought the writing was top class. you know Obviously, because I'm not as into these movies as U-Doc and U-Manny, it wasn't going to rate up there with like my favorite movies of all time, but like I totally respect this.
00:46:56
Manny
Thank you very much.
00:47:00
Keck
i mean This is definitely my favorite Godzilla movie that I've ever seen, by far. so That's where I'm at.
00:47:09
kevindoc81
Yeah, I would say the same. It's definitely better. It's bestly definitely the best one I've ever seen as well. And I was i was definitely not expecting it either.
00:47:17
Keck
Now, there's going to be Godzilla minus two, correct?
00:47:17
Manny
Yeah That's not a hundred percent it may not happen the the direct ye Yeah, yeah Yeah, yeah, I I think I think if they do I
00:47:24
Keck
You don't think?
00:47:24
kevindoc81
yeah
00:47:26
Keck
But they definitely left it open. Well, I guess what I meant is they left it wide fucking open. Like, so if they wanted to have that, it's definitely there. Because Godzilla cannot be defeated.
00:47:44
Manny
go back to it. I think it will be Hidora, that's the toxic waste monster. So that that'll go into from nuclear war to man's pollution and destruction of nature.
00:48:01
Keck
What if it's the aftermath of the attacks on Hiroshima and Nagasaki and like the radiation sort of you know like a a fallout thing that creates like monsters like Mothra and stuff like that and that comes into like the next Godzilla if there is a Godzilla monster.
00:48:16
Manny
i think
00:48:19
Manny
yeah
00:48:23
Manny
yeah but i I only suggested Hidora because of the shape that his remnants took.
00:48:32
Keck
Oh, yeah. All right. Yeah, that makes sense.
00:48:33
Manny
so there was there was a particular shape that he that his remnants took that that and and plus if you're going to keep in with a more serious tone that logically you would go from nuclear
00:48:39
Keck
Sort of like a rough. Yeah.
00:48:52
Manny
a nuclear war to to the more ecological side of it and address pollution and mankind's output in fact in nature.
00:49:08
Keck
Yeah, well, I guess I guess you would have to because I mean, yeah, they didn't even realize in Japan how fucked they were until like, you know, years later.
00:49:08
kevindoc81
Yeah.
00:49:14
Manny
love
00:49:17
Manny
yeah
00:49:20
Keck
I mean, they knew that things were bad, but they did not know things were going to be that bad.
00:49:20
Manny
But, yeah.
00:49:25
Keck
The contaminating weather and all that.
00:49:26
Manny
But director the did say that there are no definite plans and he and he accepts that there may not it's unlikely that there will be a direct sequel.
00:49:28
Keck
Yeah.
00:49:32
Keck
Yeah.
00:49:38
Keck
Yeah.
00:49:41
kevindoc81
Well, I kind of like how like all the different Godzilla's are kind of like, yeah, we just do a solo one-off Godzilla movie. It doesn't have to be connected to any of the other ones, which is really fine with me, so yeah.
00:49:51
Manny
Right, right.
00:49:51
Keck
Yeah.
00:49:53
Manny
it was it was It was refreshing in that sense.
00:49:53
Keck
yeah
00:49:56
kevindoc81
Yeah, yeah, absolutely.
00:49:56
Manny
But yeah, I mean, look, like I said, I took mushrooms the first time I saw minus one and that really enhanced the emotional aspect of it. And I was you know i was no less emotional. the You know second time but it was it you know, it was deeply moving either way, you know I wouldn't have felt any I wouldn't have felt any differently.
00:50:17
Keck
Yeah. Yeah.
00:50:20
Manny
I not experienced that but uh Yeah, it was that it was terrifying. It was sad. It was tragic. It was all those things and You know the redemption, you know, yeah it got you going, you know, it really pumped you up especially that final scene when they're They're when they've crafted the plan and hatched the plan to defeat them, you know, you're definitely rooting for them Yeah
00:50:44
Keck
Yeah, and it would be in and a or even like some kind of like prequel because in I'm just remembering in the intro scene they knew Godzilla.
00:50:45
kevindoc81
Yeah.
00:50:58
Keck
They talked about the people on that island had heard myths. of a creature named Godzilla.
00:51:04
Manny
yeah
00:51:04
Keck
So soap it would open up the possibility for a prequel to maybe when Godzilla was not as like massive and huge and like maybe like you know him coming awakened. like you know centuries before that and it being like you know something like that when you know society was like a lot more primitive I mean it could have been in like the error of the samurai or something like that you know I mean that I mean there's what Godzilla the way they've done it like you guys have like said and described well you know they're very separate you can just make a Godzilla movie around like whatever circumstances
00:51:21
Manny
yeah yeah yeah
00:51:26
kevindoc81
Thank you.
00:51:30
Manny
yeah
00:51:32
Manny
yeah
00:51:36
kevindoc81
some noise at rest.
00:51:47
Manny
Yeah, yeah Yeah, yeah
00:51:49
Keck
But it would be interesting if there was like something like a prequel now that I think about it. Because when you think about a sequel, I don't know if it would be possible to match the magic that they brought to this particular film.
00:52:07
kevindoc81
Well, I agree with Manny about how it should be our destruction of, uh, nature.
00:52:07
Keck
yeah
00:52:11
kevindoc81
I mean, a prequel just doesn't sound as interesting to me. I mean, what's, what's the allegory for it? You know, like what's the metaphor against
00:52:17
Keck
well that's what they would have to make i'm just saying that they there or because i'm not no i think there was fighting godzilla sounds very interesting to me but i mean i'm just saying like they left because i'm just i'm just throwing it out there that because they already obviously had
00:52:22
kevindoc81
samurai that just doesn't sound interesting. Like it's not like, it's not like predator versus samurai.
00:52:24
Manny
Yeah.
00:52:43
Keck
knowledge of Godzilla's existence before the attack after the Second World War. Obviously Godzilla had attacked before in that vicinity.
00:52:56
Manny
yeah
00:52:56
Keck
I was just simply saying that like there's so many possibilities.
00:53:00
Manny
Yeah.
00:53:01
Manny
But he was kind of like a a worshipable, a demigod kind of thing that they offered.
00:53:02
Keck
if they
00:53:03
Keck
yeah
00:53:06
Keck
jack Yeah, I'm not saying like yeah I think this should have I'm just saying that like they left it open if they decided like the same director if he were to You know because of the success of this movie, you know, I would think that like, you know It might be possible that he goes in and does something else or you know, maybe not maybe you know
00:53:08
Manny
Yeah.
00:53:12
Manny
Right.
00:53:30
Manny
I'd like that idea for a short film, like sort showing the samurai era, you know.
00:53:36
Keck
yeah but yeah Well, I mean, that's like when we talk about like how we first were exposed to Godzilla and I'm talking about like this like 1950s or I'm not sure exactly what the time is.
00:53:44
kevindoc81
Oh.
00:53:48
Keck
But yeah, I mean, I could see something like that. Yeah, I mean, I don't know me like samurai's and people like with bows and arrows and ballistas and shit like that fighting Godzilla to me that it does sound intriguing. like i don't know like i would like to see like dudes with samurai swords and horses and fucking like shooting fireballs from fucking you know makeshift cannons at like a smaller less developed godzilla that doesn't have all the powers that he has he doesn't have like that thing where you can you know shoot fucking warheads from his mouth to me that would be very very interesting and like
00:54:29
Manny
better.
00:54:30
Keck
them driving Godzilla back into the sea, like Godzilla being like, yo, I just ain't ready for this shit yet. I don't know. To me, that would be interesting. I'm just saying they left it open for so many possibilities. And that's.
00:54:43
kevindoc81
I would just be more interested in a samurai versus predator movie than samurai versus Godzilla.
00:54:49
Keck
Yeah, but the samurai verse predator, that would just be over very quickly because you can't see the predator. He would just be like banging them with the plasma can.
00:54:58
kevindoc81
Did you not see Prey?
00:54:59
Keck
like you know I'm yeah but he didn't have the plasma cannon pray well I've read a whole thing about it it was actually because uh which would pray well I'm not gonna again because this will lead into a huge sidebar that I'm not going to get into
00:55:01
kevindoc81
I mean Prey was even earlier than fucking that.
00:55:11
kevindoc81
how do you know he went How do you know he would have the plasma cannon against the samurai?
00:55:25
kevindoc81
and
00:55:25
Manny
All right, forget, pray.
00:55:27
Keck
so i do watch like or I have read like a lot of the yacha comics about like what they have to go through the training that like they have to go on like a pilgrimage to get certain weapons from the elders and stuff like that so he was kind of like in his like pilgrimage that's why he wouldn't have had that stuff but anyway yeah I'm just saying they left it open
00:55:50
kevindoc81
Yeah, anyway, people could write whoever's writing the next priority movie could just set it against samurai.
00:55:56
Keck
Yeah, they could do with that. Hey, as long as it's not like Shane Black, like doing what he did, like, you know, hopefully he has...
00:55:58
kevindoc81
That doesn't exist.
00:56:04
Manny
Yeah, we never need to speak about that shit ever again.
00:56:06
Keck
yeah Yeah, I, you know, I just assume that, like, I assume that after making that movie, he has at least once thought about killing himself.
00:56:08
kevindoc81
It does not exist.
00:56:18
Keck
Like, I'm not saying, like, he had a gun in his mouth, but do we know that he didn't?
00:56:26
Manny
Headcanon.
00:56:27
kevindoc81
Yeah.
00:56:27
Keck
Yeah, simply saying.
00:56:29
kevindoc81
It's a shame too. he's done He's done good movies in the past. but
00:56:31
Keck
He has, exactly he he has, but I mean, that that was just, again, I don't want to get, this could really go off the rails here, but back in Godzilla, I thought it was an amazing movie, and yeah, I would definitely, it really brought my, like, I don't know, it really kind of like brought, because I said the last full one I watched,
00:56:32
Manny
Yeah.
00:56:40
Manny
I think it has.
00:56:56
Keck
was the bad one well you described as bad with Matthew Broderick but like it has kind of like brought my interest back to like the whole genre really and i would be interested in seeing uh where they go from here whether or not it has anything to do with this movie or whether it's just something else in like the Godzilla monsters universe it's rekindled my interest
00:57:01
kevindoc81
I didn't like.
00:57:24
Keck
So yeah, for me it was definitely a success.
Favorite Scenes and Final Thoughts on 'Godzilla Minus One'
00:57:28
kevindoc81
All right. Final thoughts, Manny. What was your like, what was your standout moment from the movie? Your favorite part?
00:57:35
Manny
minus one
00:57:36
kevindoc81
Yeah.
00:58:01
kevindoc81
You know it's not shitty, right?
00:58:04
Keck
like oh that shit-eating grin that Mark CA has when he talks about his glory days.
00:58:06
Manny
Yeah. Yeah.
00:58:10
Manny
Yeah. When, when, when he attacked the city and let loose with the, uh, atomic breath and he was smoking and that he just had that, that classic. classic Godzilla grin and But yeah that whole scene when they were running away With the putting the mines in his mouth. I thought that was brilliant. I thought I was like that whole chasing built up right to the the naval ship coming to their aid and that that whole setup and Payoff was probably the my marquee moment
00:58:47
kevindoc81
All right, Keck you.
00:58:49
Keck
Well, Manny had mentioned the Godzilla grin, but my favorite part was when he was, it might be a little cliche because everybody likes the action, but my favorite part was when he was rampaging the city. I thought the graphics, just the way it was done was brilliant, especially right at the part where the film crew is basically you know shooting. They're like, we can't believe this. this is
00:59:14
Manny
It is gross.
00:59:16
Keck
this monster destroying it reminded me I've seen like a lot of movies like for example like the day after tomorrow where you know there's all this danger like l LA being hit by tornadoes and people like for some reason it's like they're like a deer in the headlights like they have to realize they're in extreme danger and like but like they're unable to turn away and
00:59:16
kevindoc81
on Yeah. Yeah.
00:59:44
Keck
and like that those news coverage people were just like look at this like blah blah like god don't he's right you like he sees it like and it's like don't you realize like you need the bouncer you're gonna get ripped and you know they you know got ripped and
01:00:00
Manny
That's real journalism though, that's commitment.
01:00:02
Keck
but it is it's it's total commitment yeah it was all commitment but like that scene where he's just rampaging the city like it was just it looked really fucking cool to me and yeah yeah yeah he yeah he like that was the girl like so yeah yeah it was just like what the
01:00:06
Manny
Yeah, yeah.
01:00:07
kevindoc81
Yeah.
01:00:17
kevindoc81
Yeah, when Godzilla looks at that, when Godzilla looks at that news crew and I'm like, they're like, oh shit, he sees us and he just kind of turns away and like just casually, knocks the building over with his tail. Yeah.
01:00:31
Keck
Yeah, it was almost like Godzilla in his mind was just kind of like, are you fucking serious? so way Do you not see what I just did to half of your city?
01:00:37
kevindoc81
see
01:00:42
Keck
Like, you know, well, fuck it.
01:00:43
kevindoc81
Like,
01:00:46
kevindoc81
Like Godzilla casually was walking through buildings, like with no effort.
01:00:47
Manny
Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay.
01:00:50
kevindoc81
Like you're just like, it's just in my way.
01:00:51
Manny
Yeah.
01:00:51
Keck
Yeah.
01:00:53
kevindoc81
I could go around, but nah.
01:00:56
Keck
No, no.
01:00:57
kevindoc81
But yeah, my favorite part was definitely that rampage scene when like, especially when like he had like picked up the train and like just casually like this just just in my way. And I'm just gonna fucking pick it up. And oh, especially when like the earlier and that when he first shows up on the island, and he's not even like eating those people, he just picking up with his mouth and just tossing them aside and shit like that.
01:01:19
Keck
Yeah, yeah.
01:01:20
kevindoc81
So when he gets to the tree and he's just like picking it up and just like fighting it up, like this is just in my way. And then like the fact that like she not only like and survived that, but then like saves him and gets blown fucking away. I was like, holy shit, they've I can't believe they just fucking did that. So that brings me to my last point, which is the only down the only thing negative I have to say about this movie was spoilers in the very fucking end where she's in the coma and like she's still alive. I think they should have just left
01:01:49
Keck
i had I had that issue, I wasn't gonna bring it up, but yeah, I also am of the same opinion.
01:01:57
kevindoc81
You, Manny, how did you feel about that?
01:01:58
Manny
I assumed that the her being irradiated did something you know to her that you obviously see in that in that scene on her neck so I figure I mean I knew it was ridiculous for it to have survived that going through all the being blown with all the debris to inform
01:02:17
kevindoc81
Yeah. She got one, like, fucking, like, 20 blocks.
01:02:20
Keck
Yeah i did I did in the back of my mind though think I hope they don't do this but there's a chance like I thought about it that she might end up living did either of you guys think there was any chance
01:02:23
kevindoc81
why
01:02:37
Manny
no i thought she was gone for sure yeah
01:02:38
Keck
All right, because I did in the back of my mind I was like, you know, like after it's because like I thought the guy was actually going to end up sacrificing himself.
01:02:39
kevindoc81
Yeah. I was
01:02:50
Keck
I thought he was going to die.
01:02:53
kevindoc81
wondering what he did. I was like that goddamn coward.
01:02:56
Keck
when when When he did not die, that put in my head, maybe they're going to go for a semi feel good ending.
01:02:57
Manny
yeah
01:03:05
Keck
Is there any chance he could have survived? And up until the very end, I thought like that they weren't going to go in that direction. But when they did, I was like, fuck, I did have it in the very back of my mind.
01:03:17
kevindoc81
Yeah.
01:03:19
Keck
But yeah, I i agree.
01:03:19
kevindoc81
Yeah, I mean, when I. All my rewatch, I didn't like I did catch it like the other they were looking for survivors, but they were like, yeah, probably nobody survived. I was like, yeah, there's no way that fucking chick survived. Like she got blown away like fucking 20 fucking blocks, like we said, and like shit was just crumbled everywhere.
01:03:33
Keck
Yeah.
01:03:37
Keck
It was a power. Yeah, it was a foul.
01:03:40
kevindoc81
Yeah.
01:03:40
Keck
I mean, that would have broken just the shock of it would have broke most of the bones in their body.
01:03:45
Manny
Yeah, we go five the internal organs
01:03:46
kevindoc81
Yeah.
01:03:46
Keck
like
01:03:48
Keck
Yeah, I think they said she got like buried in Debray and she was like knocked out for a day or two and then they like noticed her or I think that was like their explanation that like, you know, she had been covered by parts of Debray or but like, yeah, I mean that was it was pretty ridiculous for her to survive.
01:03:48
kevindoc81
she would have heard found my maybeia
01:03:57
Manny
Yeah On minus one in particular
01:04:06
Keck
But hey, I mean, it definitely didn't spoil the movie for me by any means. So anyway, well, yeah.
01:04:12
kevindoc81
No, no. But yeah, still 10 out of 10 for me. Absolutely.
01:04:15
Keck
Yeah, yeah, so although that's all I got any any other thoughts on this
01:04:17
Manny
yeah
01:04:17
kevindoc81
Yeah.
01:04:22
Manny
minus one in particular Well, the only other thing, when you mentioned what i mentioning her surviving and having the radiation Godzilla poisoning in her neck, that's what led me leads me to believe that they'll be dealing with the nuclear fallout slash pollution destruction of nature angle and if they do a followup direct follow-up.
01:04:48
kevindoc81
Yeah, I could see that. oh yeah how old How was it in Godzilla-1-Color?
01:04:49
Keck
Yeah, i can i can I mean, that would be a logical conclusion, yeah.
01:04:59
Manny
I was it was great. I mean, i I think I prefer it I I definitely prefer it in color because it was just so vivid, you know, and it really and it really captured the World War two Aesthetic like the the look of how older movies looked the coloration had the you know, almost like Technicolor kind of deal Yeah, I thought all the colors popped all the sense pops There's nothing bad about it being in black and white but
01:05:05
Keck
yeah
01:05:28
Manny
the the color was was just too vivid and I appreciate the but CG much better.
01:05:35
Keck
Yeah, yeah, fair enough.
01:05:35
kevindoc81
Yeah, I think that's kind of how I felt when I saw Mad Max, Fury Road was like, it's so good. It's so beautiful in color that like, watching it black and white is cool and all. Like it's good, like maybe for like a watch or or something like that. But like, it's like, like, the like you were saying, like the colors are so vibrant. And like, it's so such, it's so beautifully shot that like, color is the only way to fucking watch it for that movie.
01:06:00
Keck
Yeah that's why for
01:06:00
Manny
Yeah.
Discussing Godzilla's Release Strategy and Global Availability
01:06:01
kevindoc81
i mean
01:06:01
Keck
my first watch like both you and Manny had said like you know for your first watch you gotta go with color and I definitely don't regret it.
01:06:09
Manny
yeah
01:06:09
kevindoc81
Yeah.
01:06:12
kevindoc81
Yeah, so Godzilla Minus One is out on Netflix now, both with Japanese and the dubbed version, which the dubbed isn't bad actually. For my second watch, we threw the dubbed on. And I was like, okay, yeah I can i could still watch it. there weren't the It wasn't annoying at all. Because half the time I find dubs either like really bad or like the voice is just so off of what they sound like.
01:06:33
Keck
Yeah, I generally don't do dub-dev.
01:06:33
Manny
yeah
01:06:35
Keck
Yeah, I just don't.
01:06:36
kevindoc81
Yeah.
01:06:37
Keck
but And me and Doc mentioned it in the last cast. And before this cast, I also mentioned it to Manny about how Netflix seemed to not really promote the fact that it was going to be released on their platform. It seemed like it just sort of happened.
01:06:54
Manny
Yeah. Check will drop.
01:06:58
Manny
Yeah.
01:06:58
kevindoc81
Yeah, literally it was an announced like the day before that they were just like, Oh yeah, it's gonna be on Netflix tomorrow.
01:06:59
Keck
and
01:07:03
Keck
Yeah I mean I haven't really done any digging into that because you know that would obviously you would think would be like you know something Netflix would like to milk for everything it's worth like within you know hey next month like Godzilla like yeah not Godzilla is just here we just forgot to mention it.
01:07:04
kevindoc81
Like, Oh, cool.
01:07:04
Manny
Yeah.
01:07:05
kevindoc81
All right.
01:07:26
Keck
I'm not sure what exactly transpired to make that happen, but if I ever find out, I'll i'll definitely mention it in another cast.
01:07:34
kevindoc81
Yeah, I remember me and Kat Kat talked about it months ago when we were like, yeah, Godzilla is not theaters anymore because the new ones coming out and like, Toho have an agreement with who has a universal legendary pictures that like they have two to, Godzilla movies out in theaters at the same time.
01:07:46
Manny
Yeah, legendary.
01:07:53
kevindoc81
so And so then they were like, we don't know when
01:07:54
Keck
it was that it it wasn't the same year like in the same year or yeah yeah
01:08:00
kevindoc81
Yeah, in theaters. Yeah, in theaters.
01:08:02
Manny
Yeah, but it hasn't been extended beyond its original planned run for so long that.
01:08:03
kevindoc81
And so we were like,
01:08:08
kevindoc81
Yeah, because it kept making money. People kept going to see it.
01:08:10
Manny
Yeah, yeah.
01:08:10
kevindoc81
So yeah, it got into January.
01:08:11
Keck
yeah
01:08:12
kevindoc81
But then like the new the new American Godzilla came out in like March. And then they were like, Okay, well, it's not gonna be in theaters anymore.
01:08:16
Manny
yeah
01:08:19
kevindoc81
And we don't know when you're gonna be able to watch it. And they were trying to like judge it based on previous ones that they might not get it to like next year, but it was gonna be released in Japan. And like May or June, they said originally, and then it was like, We just don't know. And then suddenly, like, May like 28th, 29th, or something like that, they were like, Oh, yeah, God, so much is coming to Netflix, June 1st.
01:08:36
Manny
Yeah. Yeah,
01:08:43
kevindoc81
And like, I had to go look up and on like I was like, Wait, which region is that?
01:08:43
Manny
yeah I had just spoken with Kak.
01:08:47
kevindoc81
And they're like, all pretty much all regions.
01:08:50
Keck
over it yeah.
01:08:51
kevindoc81
So yeah, it was kind of.
01:08:52
Keck
My sixth sense tells me that in the future, they're probably going to all parties like that have vested interests are going to sit down and maybe like reopen like the legal like structure of when movies can be out.
01:08:52
kevindoc81
a fun i think
01:08:53
Manny
had
01:09:11
Keck
Because as long as everyone's making money, everybody's happy.
01:09:14
Manny
Head.
01:09:16
Keck
And I think that they kind of blundered this a little bit.
01:09:20
Manny
Head. Head.
01:09:21
Keck
because of Godzilla had still been in theaters I think they would have generated a lot more revenue because you know exactly yeah
01:09:28
kevindoc81
They probably wouldn't have put Godzilla, X-Kong, and March, but also they didn't know that Godzilla-1 was going to do so well either. I mean, I think in, like, what? Like, December? So I think i work maybe in November, I think it was like early December it came out.
01:09:40
Manny
Yeah, yeah November November was you know cuz I saw it for my birthday in November yeah Like yeah, yeah by the time I discovered you know For a week right I thought it was only couple
01:09:40
Keck
there
01:09:44
kevindoc81
And it got extended to like, in November, yeah. And then it got extended to like almost the end of January. So I think they only expected, I think they only expected it to be in theaters for maybe a month. Yeah, yeah, oh yeah. Because half the time a lot of independent and even international movies are only out for like maybe two hours.
01:10:07
Manny
Yeah.
01:10:07
kevindoc81
And the fact that it got kept getting like not only extended, but it got put into more theaters on top of that too. So I think that's quite unprecedented.
01:10:16
Manny
Yeah, yeah.
01:10:17
kevindoc81
But i'm president but i mean if they had noted it was going to do well, they probably would have pushed Godzilla X-Con back to like the end of the year or something like that, or just somewhere else.
01:10:25
Keck
Yeah.
01:10:25
Manny
Yeah, I learned the summer for summer blog posters on.
01:10:27
kevindoc81
Yeah. Yeah, exactly.
01:10:28
Keck
Again, I think they're going to figure this out in the future to maximize profit because, yeah, this was a little bit of a silly blunder, in my opinion. But, hey, the main thing that matters is it's out. People all around the world can see it and enjoy it. And it was, you know, petty, so.
01:10:50
kevindoc81
Yeah, so it goes.
01:10:51
Manny
i I would encourage everyone to not watch the dub because the the acting was so good.
01:10:54
Keck
the
01:10:57
Keck
Yeah, yeah.
01:10:57
Manny
So good.
01:10:57
kevindoc81
Yes, yes, watch wash the subtitle version first.
01:10:58
Keck
Yeah, we at least not that if you decide you have to watch the dub, like just don't do it your first time. Like just, you know, but even if it is a good dubbing, like I'm just saying, hey, that's just my thing.
01:11:13
kevindoc81
Yeah, first time, subtitle, second time, so if the black and white version is not out.
01:11:14
Keck
by the
01:11:19
Keck
Unless you can't read. If you don't know how to read and you want to see Godzilla, like, you know, so big.
01:11:21
kevindoc81
Yeah. yeah
01:11:26
Keck
I mean, and in that and that in that rare instance, like, go go for it. Like, you know, but...
01:11:33
kevindoc81
Yeah, if you want to watch it with like your kid or whatever who's who's not at that level of reading subtitles yet.
01:11:40
Keck
Yeah. Then you think your kid can handle, like, monsters destroying the city and,
01:11:41
kevindoc81
Yeah.
Conclusions and Farewells
01:11:46
kevindoc81
yeah Hey, we all kind of grew up on that, didn't we?
01:11:46
Keck
you know, shit like that.
01:11:50
Keck
you know concept of war and cowardice depression anxiety suicide for the greater good you know hey you know some kids are into that but anyway i'm saying uh that's all i got you know mani it was awesome having you on and hope to have you on again in the future and uh yeah that pretty much wraps it up thank you for joining us and uh
01:11:59
kevindoc81
i but
01:12:03
kevindoc81
yeah
01:12:10
Manny
Yeah.
01:12:18
Keck
to all a good night.
01:12:19
Manny
Thanks.
01:12:19
Keck
Peace, guys.
01:12:20
kevindoc81
yeah Thanks for joining us, Manny, and we'll catch you again next time. Thanks for listening to Fright Central.