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Episode 3: Touch
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It's Theo's turn and we see more and more of what has happened at Hill House while they were children. Is Theo more middle child, or more Jedi? Listen in as we discuss!
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Introduction to 'Haunting of Hill House' Discussion
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It's time for House on the Hill. What? It's haunted. Do you mean the haunting of a hill house? Exactly. Let's go.
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Welcome back, everyone. You're listening to Fans of Plan again. I'm Noah. I'm Laura.
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And this week we're on episode three of Haunting of Hill House. The House on the Hill. The episode is called Touch. The House on the Hill. Was that me who said that? No, that was my husband. It's not the House on the Hill. Oh, that's right, Corey's comments. Stay tuned for Corey's comments, by the way.
Director Mike Flanagan's Impact
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We won't forget. And I honestly didn't pay attention
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Um, but I, I'm pretty sure it's Flanagan who directed this episode again. I did. I actually caught that because we, I was so lax on like citing the writer and the director from
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midnight club. And then you're like, we need to make it a point to, you know, talk about who's the director of this episode. And so far, it's Mike Flanagan across the board so far. Yeah, so far. It's probably going to change. I don't know. Credit where credits do directed by Mike Flanagan.
00:02:08
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Now that all the strikes are over, one can go back to creating art and their stuff. And I followed Mike Flanagan on Twitter, and it's been a joy watching him post all of the behind the scenes photos and everything of like, Fall of House of Usher.
00:02:29
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because you still haven't watched them I still haven't I think I'm gonna know I think I'm gonna wait I don't think I'm gonna wait I mean it's it's your no I don't think you need to wait I wouldn't want you to do that to yourself but if you feel like it like I said no obligation live text me your reaction of course because I want to revisit that when you get to that show because I don't think that's gonna happen until after Midnight Mass which is two shows away from now so
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Yeah, of course. I'll have to text you beforehand. Hey, I'm watching this episode. Mute me if you need to. Oh, it's going to be good.
Current Watches and Media Recommendations
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It's going to be so good. Cause I can't, I can't even like say anything. We're just so excited for you to experience. Well, on that point, is there anything that you have been watching lately?
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again nothing nothing new there hasn't been anything really profound or anything i mean like i even got behind on watching upload i'm kind of fizzling out on that show um i'll get back into it but i mean it's just kind of like uh it's not bad yeah i'll watch it and then um
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on Netflix I watched is silly. I watched, um, what's it called? Pitch perfect. Cause it's leaving soon. And I haven't seen that in a really long time. And then when I watched it, I was like, Oh yeah, this is why I haven't watched it in a really long time. Cause I was like, Oh, it's cute. It's music. I love music. I love Acapella. I'm a choir, you know, alum from high school. And then I was like, Oh my gosh, Nope. I did not need to watch this. I know it's some people's favorite movies, so no offense, but like,
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Uh, it's, I don't want to, it's fun if you're in the right mood for it. I guess. Yeah. I feel like the main characters, like I don't resonate with any of them. I'm like, sorry, I don't need to, I don't need to break down that movie and hurt feelings, but I do have a random recommendation.
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Oh, we always love another show that I love. It's on Amazon. It's got Maya Rudolph and Fred Armisen, and it's called Forever. Okay. Have you seen it? I haven't. I think you would really enjoy. I think you would really enjoy it. It's
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different. And it's just a one season, which made me sad. But this isn't even a spoiler. The main character played by Maya Rudolph is called June, she dies. And so the show is about her afterlife. Interesting. And it's really, it's a really sweet show. It's really funny. I like the
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The chemistry between her friend Arbison is Oscar. He plays her husband. They just have a really natural kind of like chemistry. And so some of the conversations they have and they're like talking about, you know, like, I don't even remember what they would be talking about. I just remember they would be talking to each other during the scene and it just seemed so natural and they would laugh together and it was just so organic. And the show is charming, but it's also really funny. And it's also kind of weird, which I always love something that's a little bit weird, so.
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It's called forever. And it's on Amazon forever on Amazon forever. Before I get into what I've been watching, which I've said before, I don't really have anything else to recommend at this point, because I haven't been watching a whole bunch of stuff. But I do have a book.
Book and Show Recommendations
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Oh, okay. Yeah. It's called A Darker Shade of Magic. It's written by V.E. Schwab, I believe is how you say the author's name. It's a very typical
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simple plot of this object. It does not belong here. We need to get it to where it does belong and get rid of it. But it's about magic and about magic wielders and London and different kinds of London's. It's a scary that can hop between these different London's and interesting. Each one has this varying level of magic in the city itself.
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It's really cool. Um, I'm not a hundred percent sure how I feel about it. I'm enjoying it. I like, I listened to it on audio book and the narrator is doing a great job. Um, but I'm enjoying it. I like it and it's, it's something interesting and different. So I'm here for it. Cool. Darker sheet of magic. Are you a Neil Gaiman fan? Have you read his books? I haven't, but I watched Good Omens.
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And I really liked, I haven't seen the second season yet, but I really liked good omens. There's one book that he wrote and I kicking myself for not knowing the title offhand, but I really enjoyed it. I think I actually have a physical copy of it, but it's about London underground. Oh, interesting. It is really interesting. Okay. That's all I, I'm going to say that I'll, I'll, I'll text you the title later, but, um,
00:08:08
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I really enjoy his books. I read Coraline before it was a movie. And the book, it's a children's book. This is when I worked at a bookstore. I was in charge of the children's department. I read that a little bit at a time on my lunch breaks, because that's what I would do. I would just grab a book and read on my lunch breaks. But that book freaked me out.
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That movie freaks me out. The movie is fantastic. A brilliant movie. But I just, um, I think you'd enjoy the book. It didn't scare me, scare me until like the end. And then I was like, Oh my gosh. But anyway.
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after I don't even remember what the first Neil Gaiman book I read was, but like after that, I was like, I have to read everything. And then, um, did you watch Sandman on
Exploring Neil Gaiman's Works
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Netflix? I did. I did. Cause that's a graphic novel. So I haven't read that. I might know, but like, I was about to say, like, I don't, is he something that is, did he write that? Yeah. That's his, no, that's his, that's his, that's all his brilliant show. Yeah. I love Sandman. Really good. So good.
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I love the quirkiness of both good omens and salmon because it's not usual stuff that we see.
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Right. I don't know how else to describe it. That's just the way I feel. You don't. It's just. Yeah. You either like. Coraline just. Uh huh. It doesn't do it for me. It's like too weird. You know. Watch it like two more times. You'll get over it. No. It's like my kids all went through like a Coraline is my favorite movie phase. And then they got a little bit older and then they were like, no, it's too scary. And then they went back to, oh, I actually like it.
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But American Gods, that book is great. The series, I don't know why they went so graphic with the series, but that was hard to get through.
Deep Dive: 'Wheel of Time' Adaptation
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Oh, I was going to ask you, did you finish Wheel of Time?
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That's what my next point was going to be. I think we just finished in episode seven. So we have five minutes. How many episodes are there? One more. Is that eight? Yeah. I've got to tell you. I can't even talk about what I wanted to talk about. Dang it. Stay tuned, folks, for next episode. Stay tuned for Laura's rant.
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on the show. I've got to say, though, I am really liking this season a lot more than I agreed. Agreed. Agreed. Agreed.
00:10:57
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There is a lot different from the books and it is sort of frustrating. I know I've said that before. Can you kind of tell what they're trying to do in all the things that they're making different though? Which makes it a little more forgivable. Matt's journey is wildly different.
00:11:15
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I love the new actor, by the way. I really like him. Yeah, he's good. It's wildly different and I'm trying to see where, how they're going to take him from where they're setting him up to where I know he ends up in the book.
00:11:28
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There's just kind of fast tracking his, his plots. And that whole tea thing, I was like, is that supposed to be like him in the waste or something? I don't even know. I can't, I can't, I can't yet. You need to watch the last couple of episodes, then I can. But I love.
00:11:48
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I love how they are going forward with how they set up the pieces. And I really like what they're doing with the characters, with what they're doing with a Gwayne, poor Gwayne. She's really going through it. But I know where she's where that leads her. And I'm so excited to see it. I love the way that they.
00:12:13
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show channeling and embracing the source. I think that's kind of cool, you know, because you can visually see it. Yeah. And you can see the taint whenever he's. Yeah. The siding he can whenever he's holding it, you can see it. Yeah.
00:12:33
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But like, there is some stuff that annoys me like brain. I think brain is being so annoying. I get it. I understand why, but she's so frustrating. Oh, and shouldn't she have known that she wasn't anyway.
00:12:48
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I don't know what the whole thing was like tying off weaves. Was that a new thing in the book? That was like standard practice in the books. They already knew how to do that. So like that being like a new discovery was weird. And the whole Ishmael storyline, sorry, where his whole goal is to just be erased from the wheel. Like he does not want to come back again and again, even though like he hasn't, he's been like trapped for how many thousands of years.
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Isn't there the, like the forsaken, sorry, the forsaken have like all this ancient knowledge, right? Because that was their time. And so there's that one weave, the balefire, which actually bloops you out of being reincarnated essentially in the cycle of the wheel, like you're not coming back. So I'm like, his whole campaign,
00:13:43
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of wanting to like off himself and not come back is solved by that thing, right? Or am I not remembering that, right? Like if you're hit by a balefire, it erases you and erases what you've done, like up to, I don't know, a few days before, however powerful, right. But like it also kind of blinks your soul out of existence completely.
00:14:09
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If I'm remembering that, right. I don't know. Cause that whole storyline with why that doesn't make sense. So I'm interested. I will keep myself open for where they're going with that. But like, well, I know, I know I like land fear, how they kept her kind of true to her storyline, but.
00:14:30
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I know when Ashamael was... This is going to be spoilers for anyone who hasn't read the books. Whenever Ashamael was reincarnated into Morden, whenever the Dark One turned him into Morden, I guess. That was Morden's whole thing. It's like, I'm working towards destroying the wheel because
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I don't want to do this anymore. I'm tired. I just want to sleep and never wake up. Yeah. So they're kind of doing the same thing again, where they're combining different plot points. They're both a little crazy though. I will say I loved the visuals and the directing.
00:15:16
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perfect, just beautiful, the way like the Sean Chin look, how they depict them and like, I don't know, just, it's, it was fun to see it. It was fun to watch it because everything was like the costuming was great. The directing was great. The writing was pretty good. But like, if I, if I wasn't so tied to the books, I guess I would enjoy it more. But I also feel like the first season, if I didn't understand the books, I would be very confused as to what the heck is the point of what all they're doing.
00:15:45
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Jacqueline is constantly asking me questions. See? And that was my whole frustration with the first season. And I watched it with Corey and he's like, wait, what? What are they doing? And then my issue with what they're doing with Matt sent me on like a 20 minute rant. I paused the show at the part with the tea.
00:16:07
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Cause I started having like a tantrum and my husband's like, what is wrong with you? And I'm like, if this is what I think it is that they're doing, that's not cool. And I will get into it next time. But I like vented for like 20 minutes before I let, he's like, finally, he's like, can we just turn the show back on? And I'm like, yes, sorry, but this is like important.
00:16:32
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Are you saying that they're getting rid of the people that have knowledge? Is that what you're saying? Do you remember the gifts they gave him? Do you remember the gifts they gave him? And how that plays an important part in what towers of midnight
00:16:53
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Well, we're going to be rented for 20 minutes next episode. So be prepared, be prepared. And if you don't like it, I don't care. This is my show.
Who is Theo? Psychological Abilities Explored
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Um, last note before we move on to the actual show, we're talking about, um, I love, absolutely love what they're doing with Leondrin. I love how they're making her this great villain, but you feel compassionate for her. Um,
00:17:23
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I think it's so much fun to watch her. I think the actress does a great job. Every time she's on screen, she's just fun to watch. So I really do enjoy that. I have mixed feelings about men. It's just changes that affect how the rest of the story goes. Yeah.
00:17:49
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That's, that's my whole issue. Like if it doesn't, if it's not so integral to the rest of the story, I wouldn't care, but they're changing these fundamental things. How are you going to come back? Impacts later on. Yeah, that's, that's my whole frustration. Like, yeah. And I don't accept the excuse. Oh, it's hard to adapt a book into a shell. Nope. Not going to, nope. Nope. You know, when you actually have the sources source, it's easy.
00:18:21
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because of Game of Thrones and everything and they wrote. Exactly. The Lord of the Rings, Game of Thrones. Oh, I know. I know. I don't even want to like, you don't even want to hear my frustration with George R.R. Martin.
00:18:36
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Well, I was working in books when he was like trying to publish like the next one. And I got the anger of the consumer at me because of his not publishing books when he said he would. But anyway.
00:18:58
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Well, this week we are focusing on Theo. This is her episode. And I don't know about you, but these episodes just keep getting more. Like a hurt more and more each one of them.
00:19:16
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Cause there's, there's some dark stuff that goes on in this episode that we'll talk about, but, um, we open on someone getting into bed with young Theo and like is wrapping their arm around her. And she's like, no, is that you? Like, did you have a bad dream or is it Luke? I think it was no, no. Yeah. It's like, did you had a bad dream? Um, and no response and everything.
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And she like turns over and there's no, there's no one there. There's no one there. And she's like, whose hand was I holding? Creepy. Then we go forward into time and adult Theo is now a child psychologist, I want to say. I initially thought maybe like she's
00:20:10
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part of social services, but I think she's just her own child psychologist, and she has like, I don't know if they specify if she's a psychologist or a psychiatrist, but she, we find out later that she's going for her PhD. So she's got a doctorate in something.
00:20:27
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It was it was hanging up on the wall. I think a psychology. I don't know. I'll have to go back and see. It was P something. But she's, she's listening to a girl talk about Mr. Smiley and how she sees him. And he just got this like smile on his face. And he's not happy. Yeah.
00:20:57
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Also real quick, Theo and Shirley are in Boston, by the way, because it said Boston. So they are on the East Coast.
00:21:08
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But then Dale starts talking to the girl, and she is legit just talking about putting up walls. You keep putting up walls and walls and walls until you feel safe. So nobody slips in. And it helps you understand who Theo is as a person.
00:21:29
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And you saw it, I think in the previous episode when she was at the club and she just hooked up with a girl and kicked her out because she's got those walls up high. Um, and this little girl is having behavior issues and her grades are slipping and funny enough.
00:21:49
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I did a paper recently that was due yesterday and I connected these two authors. Both of them were sexually abused as children. And I went researching and looking at papers and stuff and I saw, I think I read two public, um, or like published medical
00:22:18
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theories out of papers. I don't know what the word was I'm looking for. But they were describing the link between sexual abuse in children and behaviors. Drug abuse skyrocketed, alcohol use skyrocketed.
00:22:35
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depression, anxiety, suicidal attempts, um, grades slipping in class, not attending class, dropping out of school, like all that kind of thing stuff like skyrockets, like when you are sexually abused as a kid. And so it's kind of a hint early on in this episode of what's going on with this girl. Um, and it's something that is very true and very real. Um, you know, I,
00:23:02
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I couldn't even manage being a teacher. My wife's a teacher. I couldn't even imagine it if you had to deal with something like that. Anyway, she does have a degree in psychology, I believe is what I wrote. So maybe I'm right. Maybe it's psychology. But that discussion ends and we go back in the past.
00:23:28
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And young Theo finds something fancy when her and her dad, Hugh are going through stuff and trying to auction stuff off. And I liked that moment. She held it and she was like, this is fancy. When you're watching, you're like, how do you know? Like what's going on?
00:23:51
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I was like, oh, she's got an eye for a well made box. She's like some good quality wood. This is this is crap. But then it made sense when they opened it, I was like, oh, yeah. And then in another flashback, she's walking.
00:24:16
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by Miss Dudley and Olivia, and they're saying, oh, there's this cold spot right here. Can you feel it? Theo's like, yeah, I feel it, but the whole house is cold. You want to hear something weird? Yeah. The last house I lived in had cold spots. Ah, interesting. Yeah. And I would do exactly what the women were doing. I would stand there and I would put my hand
00:24:45
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in it. And it was distinctly cold. And then I would move my hand above to the side, through it to the side underneath. Uh-huh. Yeah. And it wouldn't be like cold seeping in from the door because why would it be like, you know, waist high in the middle of a room? Yeah.
00:25:04
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And so I was telling my husband that when we were watching and he's like, no, we did it. And I'm like, um, and there were other instances in that house that I'm like, either something happened here or someone's hanging around, but nothing was like malevolent. So it's not anything juicy to talk about. It was just like.
00:25:22
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You can hang around here as long as you don't mess with me. You can stop waking me up at night and we'll be cool. But I'm not going to kick you out. Just stop waking me up at night. But I don't know, I can tell those stories another time. But the cold stuff thing, I was like, well.
00:25:46
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But then it flashes back in the present. Theo is talking to Shirley about this little girl. And Theo's like, yeah, she's like a brick wall. And Shirley's like, I know the type. And I thought that was just really funny. Like, duh, Theo, you are too. Like, you would know. And it goes back into the past and.
00:26:10
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Luke Nelly and Theo find these megaphones that kind of like travel throughout the house and you can talk at one of the house to the other end without having to yell or anything. Just speak into this thing and they go try to find the other end of this this device. There's a word for it. I can't remember the word for it. It's like a like a
00:26:38
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intercom system. Yeah. Just for like the 1900s. It's like a like a rich person thing when you have a household and, you know, staff. Yeah. Like ordering your breakfast from your bed. Yeah. Bring it up.
00:26:58
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Um, but speaking about beds, Theo goes towards this intercom system and she touches the bed and she immediately just shifts. She's like, Oh, this was a sick bed. And she immediately comes disgusted and just not interested in anything you're doing. She's like, I'm going to leave. And you're like, uh, have you know that what's going on? You're being a really creepy little girl right now. Um,
00:27:25
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But I just, when she's leaving, there's an interaction between Nell and Luke that is just so adorable. So cute. It looks like, I like rice pudding. You gotta tell me these kinds of things. That's such a silly thing, especially a twin thing. Yeah.
00:27:50
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But then we go six years previous to the present, and Steven is offering everybody 8% of his book sales and everything like that. And Shirley talks to the group and says, no one's taking your blood money, Steve. Your blood money. And then everybody's like, yeah, no, we don't want that. Totally not doing that.
00:28:15
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Not doing that at all. None of us are taking this. No, I wouldn't want $10,000.
00:28:27
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There we go backwards to young Theo and she's in her little workout room having fun dancing to uh to a music video or there you go dancing to that and the doorknob twists and turns a couple times and she's like what the heck is going on she goes closer to it and then the
00:28:49
Speaker
There's a bang on the door. And that's it. There's nothing else going on. And the first time that is a jump scare because I didn't. I didn't either. I have three. That's not me too. Yeah. This one was pretty straightforward. So hopefully we have the same. I don't see how we wouldn't because I was actually trying to pay attention this time.
00:29:17
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But if you're smart, you connect this moment to something that happened in the previous episode. I wasn't smart. I walked by and the floor squeaked. Yeah. Oh, the first time I watched it, I missed everything. I did not catch. Even this time, I'm like, does the rice pudding thing come back when we see Nell's side of that interaction? Maybe, because I don't remember, but I am catching more things. Interesting. Okay.
00:29:44
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Cause she asks him like, tell me all these details. I'm like, Oh, did like some other voice come through first? Oh, I forgot about that part. Well, I did too, but I'm like, just guessing now. Okay. Okay.
00:30:00
Speaker
Um, and we're back in the present and Theo is again at this club and I'm convinced that she's like this adult raver, just parting it up every other day. Um,
00:30:16
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She sees a previous hookup there, but just gives her the cold shoulder and ignores her Then go back to the past young Theo Sticks up for Luke when Luke is playing kind of with the dumb waiter in his truck and miss Dudley is like Get out of there young man. Like absolutely not don't do that. And it's like don't be so me like
00:30:43
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She would have been such a fun little kid to watch. She doesn't give any any craps. She sticks up for her siblings, you know.
00:31:00
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But then she touches Ms. Dudley and Ms. Dudley touches her or something. And Theo says, oh, she's not mean. She's scared. And Ms. Dudley's like.
00:31:14
Speaker
Uh, what the heck do you mean? How do you know that basically? What if a kid said that to you? Like I would freak out if some little kid was like reading me that much. Well, time to go. That would weird me out. Yeah, very much.
00:31:36
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And then we go, it's nighttime.
Luke's Haunting Experiences
00:31:41
Speaker
I'm assuming Theo is trying to get something from the kitchen or the pantry or something, but she catches Luke kind of messing with the dumb waiter again, just trying to play with it.
00:31:55
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Have fun. And Lucas is like, I just want to ride it. Just a quick ride. Yeah, just a quick ride. Don't tell anybody. I can't seem to get it working. And he was like, well, you have to close the gate to get it to open to work. He's like, please, pretty please. And he's like, OK, fine. You don't mess with creepy old dumb waiters in a creepy old house. OK, because stuff like this happens. Yep.
00:32:25
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She closes the gate and she tries to send him up, but it goes, but it goes down. And it's Luke is like, no, I set up. Don't, don't send me down. And every little kid is always going to have that irrational fear of the basement. I'm sure it just made it worse for Luke. Yep. Um, and then
00:32:53
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He goes down there and his flashlight starts blinking and the area he's pointing at, there's like a hand appears. And it's not a jump scare, but it's really, really, really creepy. That was stressful. That was stressful. Yes, very much. Um,
00:33:13
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And then the zombie Foley appears. I called him a zombie. I don't know if it's a guy. That's what I called him. Yeah. Call him zombie. I counted him appearing as a jump scare. Me too. Foley. The zombie jump scare is what I wrote exactly.
00:33:27
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And he's crawling on the ground. The light keeps flicker and he keeps getting closer and closer. No, no, no, no, no. Don't like it. No. Because he can't go anywhere. He's trapped. He can't do it either. I hate it. And he keeps screaming and screaming and screaming and the parents come and everything. And he comes back up the dumb waiter and he's missing a piece of his shirt. It's like torn off.
00:33:53
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And his parents are like, Oh, I must've gotten caught in the door or something. Yeah. Okay. Don't, don't believe your kid. All right. Um, I have, I have a note here.
00:34:06
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And I wonder if Theo looks back at her childhood and thinks maybe like now on Luke, we're telling the truth. And I know there's a bit later on where Theo's like, I believe you young Theo to Luke is like, yeah, I believe you what happened. Cause she touches him and she feels it.
00:34:24
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But in that same meeting with Steven and Shirley and all them six years ago, she was like, oh, no, Luke's ghost stories like she doesn't believe it. But I didn't read it as that. I took that as she believes Nell and Luke, because I think she has like some of her own experiences. But she gets mad at Steve.
00:34:54
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for like not experiencing anything, but then like the same old story, like profiting off of it, but he didn't, she like went after him. Like you were, you were asleep for like 99% of that. Like you were not involved in that situation. That was their experience. Like, what are you doing? So I think she does validate Nell and Luke more than anybody else does. Okay.
00:35:22
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even though she didn't go through what they went through exactly. And because she got mad at Steve. It did seem a little weird to me because in that flashback, it seemed like she was kind of saying, oh yeah, their ghost story is like as if she didn't believe them. But as a kid, she touched Luke and felt what he felt, saw what he saw. And I also think it motivates her to become who she is as an adult.
00:35:50
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because she believes these kids and she takes everything they say seriously and it's a point that she says later on like nobody believes them like no one was there for them when they need it and she's like that person so it felt a little weird to me but that makes that does make sense yeah um and she does believe him she was just calling steve out so yeah she was just calling steve out because
00:36:18
Speaker
They weren't his experiences, but he took them for himself.
00:36:21
Speaker
Yeah. Okay. Um, and I, I honestly want to say that might be the craziest thing that we've seen in the house. So far, so far. So everything, everything else. It wasn't there. It wasn't even like hinted at, like everything before has been kind of like suggested or hinted. Yeah. Um, this was like full on in your face zombie in the basement.
00:36:49
Speaker
Yeah. So I guess as an audience, you could maybe partially believe Steve be like, what is going on? There's nothing going on. It's just, it's stuff that can be explained away, you know? Right. But then we get into the, these younger siblings and they're actually having these experiences in the house. And so you're starting to see the other side of the story. Um, um,
00:37:16
Speaker
I like how the parents aren't dismissive of what their kids go through. Like they really do validate their feelings. Even if they don't believe the things are as they are explained, but like you're scared and they recognize that you're, and then, you know, later on went with the conversation with her mom and she's like, you're sensitive, you know, like they help them cope with the things, but she's not the parent that's left with them to grow up with. Mm-hmm.
00:37:45
Speaker
It's the dad and he doesn't know what to do. Anyway, we don't have to get into all that right now. I just wanted to like appreciate how the parents to this to that point in the past handled things with their children. Yeah, that's the point that I have later on as well, especially with this instead of discussion. I am recording right now when you're going to run up against my leg, messing with my cords. Cats. Anyway.
00:38:15
Speaker
Um, I'm also, she, when Luke came back up and he was hurt and scared and just frightened. And I think either her mom or Hugh kind of like yell at her, like he could have been hurt or, or something like that. She really takes it personal and she goes to her room and cries about it. And then she apologized to Luke later being like, I didn't mean to hurt you or anything like this.
00:38:42
Speaker
And just a fun rhetorical question to kind of think about is does she put up the walls because she doesn't want to get hurt or feel what others feel or because she doesn't want to hurt someone else like she hurt Luke. I have more of a discussion on that later because a lot more comes to light.
00:39:05
Speaker
Okay. Um, but just kind of something to think about because most of the time people put up walls to prevent themselves from being hurt. Well, everybody does to a degree. Yeah. I thought it was interesting that maybe she was doing it to not hurt somebody else. My question is, is does she?
00:39:29
Speaker
It's a gate. She has a gate, not a wall. Sometimes she opens it, sometimes she closes it. We'll get to the part I want to reference, I think, towards the end. Yeah. Yeah.
00:39:43
Speaker
Cause I'm pretty sure we both have a lot to say about what happens later. So, um, then we go back to present day Theo and she's sleeping and someone pulls off the covers and she wakes up and it's the second jump scare of the episode.
Theo Investigates Child's Home for Abuse
00:40:03
Speaker
It's Mr. Smiley, very creepy, very creepy standing at the end of her bed. Yeah. She's like,
00:40:12
Speaker
Dang, this kid really got in my head. Yeah. Watchings for the first time. You might not be a hundred percent sure about what's going on. Like what, what is Theo able to do? But you're starting to piece it together that whenever she touches something or someone she can kind of feel memories or feelings and thoughts. Emotions. Emotions. Yeah.
00:40:43
Speaker
Um, it's kind of like the Jedi, some of the Jedi being able to see the past and like force memories or something like that, a nerdy way, but, and at least one of the games I've seen and in Wasoka, but that's something that was revealed. Cool. Theo's a Jedi and I'm trying to say.
00:41:21
Speaker
You wonder like is she just getting like impressions and emotions but I think in the last scene when her dad has her arm she actually gets visual pictures. So it may be it varies from person to person object to object like what comes through but
00:41:42
Speaker
I think how terrifying for a little kid. Yeah. Yeah. I think she's fully immersed into what she's feeling. And then did she feel something when the entity was in her bed when she was a kid and she thought it was her sister and it was holding her hand. Did that start things? Hmm. Because it's interesting to think about specifically held her hand. Yeah. So I don't know.
00:42:11
Speaker
I don't think it's an answer. Nothing eludes to her being able to do this before that, that I know of yet. Or was that entity just sending through nothing? Was it just nothing? Whatever was holding her hand. Because she was kind of like, Nell, is that you? Or does she say, Cheryl, I don't know. But she asks, is that you? So anyway.
00:42:45
Speaker
Then we go back to Nell's wedding and she's missing her maid of honor. And her and Steve go looking for the maid of honor. And there's some little activities going on in the room. I said out loud something like, you have groomsmen and bridesmaids missing. Don't go around opening doors.
00:43:11
Speaker
You don't know what you're going to find. Um, but they knock on the door and get the bridesmaid out and seems like I'm staying back. I want to see who's in there. Like placing money on it's Mark or somebody and Theo pops out and they're all just kind of standing there kind of looking at each other. I didn't know you were into.
00:43:50
Speaker
And then it's the present day. Shirley had told Theo that Nell was dead. And Shirley's like, well, what do I tell my kids? How do I talk to them about it? What if they start asking questions? And.
00:44:05
Speaker
Theo says, just tell them the truth, you know, that now committed suicide and that you just, you just answer truthfully, give them nothing more, but answer their, their questions, tell them that they're being, that their feelings are, um, was it okay? Their, their feelings are correct. Their feelings are correct. Yeah. Yeah. Uh, just say nothing like dad did is basically what they were saying.
00:44:34
Speaker
Yeah. Be open with your kids. Don't elaborate. Um, if you don't know the answer, tell them, I don't know. And those are like actual real tips and techniques to help kids through a crisis. You tell them the truth at an age appropriate amount and level. You don't elaborate just like what she had said. Like she was, you know, therapist Theo was coming out in that situation.
00:45:01
Speaker
And you saw that in the previous episode. Yeah. You saw Shirley taking her advice. It's kind of fun going back to the discussion. That's right. Yeah. Yep. Yep. Fun little callbacks, you know? Yeah. Um.
00:45:21
Speaker
But in that discussion, she's like, Theo says that she's mad at Nell for doing this because Nell, out of everybody, knows what this does to a family and she's, and Theo's just mad at her. And that anger obviously comes out of hurt and sadness and pain. But, um. So you're laughing because I'm shaking my head. Yeah, I'm not laughing. Not what you're talking about. I was just thinking that.
00:45:54
Speaker
My cat wants to go outside and he's like scratching the curtains. They're cheap. So I don't care if the cat scratch these curtains, but he also like scratches the pain at the, of the sliding door. And so I'm shaking my head at him and he's looking at me, but I want to go outside and I'm saying no, but I want to go outside. No. And I was laughing at that. Um, not, not what's going on in the show. Anyway.
00:46:24
Speaker
This is the part where we go back to the past. In Young Theo touches Luke and she says she believes him and that she's sorry for hurting him and all that.
00:46:38
Speaker
And then you kind of work together to find out about where the stairs were that Luke saw in that like the cellar basement area. Where's the ladder? Yeah. Yeah. So Theo goes back to the pantry kitchen area and works out where it is, even that this place is nowhere on the blueprints.
00:47:00
Speaker
So I love how like the house is like super old and everything in it, you know, has been there for a long time too. And what she moves off of the trapdoor is like a laundry squeezer. I don't know what the name is. But like you roll the laundry between the two rolls and it like squeezes all the water out so you can hang it up to dry.
00:47:21
Speaker
Um, but the whole thing was like so clean and like just pristine and polished. And I'm like, they couldn't have like put some dust on there. Like it's weird that it's super clean, but anyway. And my husband was like, well, the person that they borrowed it from probably spent a lot of time restoring it and making it look good. And they didn't want to gunk it up. I'm like, okay.
00:47:48
Speaker
We're getting too far into the logistics of things that don't matter. She finds the stairs or the ladders and she goes down into the basement and throughout this entire sequence
00:48:04
Speaker
I didn't realize I was holding my breath, but I was holding my breath through the entire time up until we're just back to the present. And I was, I was stressed the entire time because it was very quiet. There was nothing going on. He didn't know what was going to happen. I forgot what happens during that period. So I was nervous. I was, because there's a zombie down there. Yeah. Where'd it come from?
00:48:31
Speaker
Um don't even go into that yet. He's like I'm gonna stay here where the liquor is and just drive myself away. Did you bring a tap? Oh my goodness.
00:48:59
Speaker
Um, and then we go back to the present and adult Theo is doing some investigating of the child's house. Cause the child is a foster child and she went to the foster parents house and it's like, Hey, do you mind if I just look at the basement? Cause she was talking about it and I know it's just like a normal basement, but I just want to check it out.
00:49:22
Speaker
And they're like, yeah, sure. No problem. And so we see her take off both of her gloves and she goes around the basement touching things, trying to feel everything out. And she goes over and just kind of passes a hand along the couch and she stops. She's like, wait a minute. Before she touched the couch, did you know it was going to be the couch? No. Watching this for the first time, no.
00:49:46
Speaker
I don't know why. I feel like I'm watching it for the first time now, but when she walked by the couch, just the way it was angled, like in a weird way, like facing the stairwell, like it's just very particular. I was like, Oh, the couch. And then it was the couch. Yeah.
00:50:06
Speaker
So she touches it and she's like, wait a minute. There's something else going on. And she sits down and then she lays down. And this is where you, where I believe you, she fully becomes in.
00:50:23
Speaker
that memory or whatever. She puts herself in that exact position and like, then she feels, you know, I'm assuming she's feeling like the emotions of the situation that has happened countless, countless, countless times before. And she just, yeah, she just starts crying and freaks out. Yeah.
00:50:48
Speaker
So that's just oh, that was when you're watching it for the first time, you might not understand what's going on. But as soon as that happens, you're like, oh, oh, no. And then she looks up at the ceiling and it's a smiley face and you're like, oh, in the wood. Yeah, there's a pattern that looks like a creepy Mr. Smiley.
00:51:13
Speaker
Yeah. Um, then Theo goes back up and she puts on her customer service space. Very smart. If you're in a situation, you don't want to trap yourself by making accusations in someone else's turn. Yeah. Yeah. She's like, thank you so much for having me here. And very deliberately without the gloves, she shakes his hand.
00:51:43
Speaker
And like, it's like awkward. Yeah. She's layered into his soul. Oh my gosh. And he's like, what are you looking at? And she was like, well, I'm just looking at your smile. And you're like, he be jeebies. Gross.
00:52:05
Speaker
But then we go back to a previous conversation in the past and Olivia is having a conversation with Theo and she's like, I didn't like that you didn't, you went out down there by yourself, but I like that you were so brave. Um, and Theo's like loving it that her mom is kind of complimenting her and then she holds her hand and then sees her mom in blood. And I counted that as the second jump scare. Yep.
00:52:34
Speaker
Because she's got this blood all over her. No, that's the third. That's number three. Oh, that was number three. I'm sorry. That's number three. No, that's OK. Yep. Because we've got the zombie jump scare, Mr. Smiley in Theo's room jump scare. And then the mom's super gory and gross jump scare. That was my number three, too. Yep. She screams and everything like that. And we go back to the present. And the father is being arrested.
00:53:04
Speaker
And then this is heartbreaking, and it lets us see a little bit more into Theo because she left out this big sigh. And you can tell she's trying to hold it together, but she's got these teary eyes. And it's kind of, it's just not crying out right, but it's kind of pooling around, and she's got tear trails, everything.
00:53:30
Speaker
go back to another conversation in the past. The show just really just jumps around a lot. It really does. But it doesn't bother me. It doesn't take you out of the store. No, it's very like, I don't know, kind of organic and you don't get confused because there's clues for like exactly where the wedding, you know, when the wedding is, the book publishing, you know, when that is.
00:53:53
Speaker
you know, and then the present and it'll even say like present day or like yesterday. Anyway. Because other shows that try to do that do get confusing. Yeah. Yeah. But this one does it well. So agreed. Olivia says that their family is sensitive.
00:54:17
Speaker
Their grandma had this ability some ability and Olivia will get the headaches and everything and she can see stuff I just kind of find it interesting how it's talking about these sensitive the sensitiveness and Potential gifts like spiritual gifts or spiritual abilities. I think
00:54:42
Speaker
growing up religious it's a it's something interesting to talk about something that was kind of discussed with me and my family is that some people have different spiritual gifts and something I always found interesting you know I think sensitive is a really good word because some people are more sensitive to
00:55:04
Speaker
other surroundings and other people tend to be. So I think sensitive is the right word in this context. She acknowledges that Theo has this gift, but she doesn't make it this huge thing, but she also doesn't just ignore it.
00:55:26
Speaker
She, she doesn't outright say what it is. She just says here, here, these gloves for you. They're going to help with the cold and the other thing. Yeah. And the other thing. Um, so it's again, great parenting, validating your children's feelings, being kind, all that kind of stuff. Um, then we go into,
00:55:57
Speaker
I don't know how long ago it was, maybe two years or so. I don't think it is the present. Which I can't remember where Theo Theo finds a book in her cabinet and then she has a memory of when Steve and her were talking. I thought that was right. She finally she like left where the house was where the father got arrested. I thought that was that day.
00:56:27
Speaker
I didn't think so. Oh, yeah, she saw the book. Yeah, but then she had a flash of memory. Yeah. The book publishing I thought was like six or seven years before because Shirley is pregnant. And in the present day, her kids are
00:56:45
Speaker
You know, a little bit older, six, seven, eight years old. Cause there was, yeah, there was a time where the, the manuscript first came out and the family read it. Theo didn't, but the family did. They didn't like it. And then it got published and that's when Theo read it and she's like,
00:57:04
Speaker
you know you were asleep for like 99 percent of it so what do you know like what the heck were you writing about kind of stuff you know just ripping him a new one yeah okay um but then from there we go to the present and feel
00:57:26
Speaker
She goes into the room where Nell's body is being kept, takes off both of her gloves and she touches her. She touches her for a couple seconds and then she just kind of stumbles back and she screams and cries.
00:57:48
Speaker
I liked how it's like it took moments for everything to kind of sink in and for her to realize and process exactly what she was either seeing or feeling or giving the impression of whatever it was that came through. We don't know yet. Yeah, I felt like that was more realistic than her touching her and then freaking out. So it was like, well done. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
00:58:10
Speaker
But we just see Theo just completely break down and just sob and wail and everything like that. Then we go to her drinking. I don't know if it's like bourbon or whiskey or something on the porch. She's got a bottle of it. It's either like vodka or gin. It was clear. Oh, it was clear? I thought it was like.
00:58:34
Speaker
when she was brown with oh there was a different scene than before that when she was when she found out about Nell dying that she was sitting with Shirley like on the bed oh when they were having that conversation so i think i was mixing that up but yeah she was drinking something brown so yeah she was like she's really not getting back and um Kevin I believe his name is comes out
00:59:04
Speaker
the husband. Yeah, husband. He's like, Are you okay? Yeah, it is like Kevin or something, which I'm like, Why? Wait a minute. This isn't been that club. It's just that's a very white name. Kevin. Kevin. And he's, he's like, Yeah, it is Kevin. Okay.
00:59:28
Speaker
Anyway, it doesn't matter. He comes out, tries to ask if she's okay, and she's just not. She's like, yeah, I'm great. Tears coming down her face. I'm doing fine. She's like, Shirley found your checkbook, by the way. You might want to make something up like a mistress or something. Or a secret family, something that'll piss her off less than the truth.
00:59:57
Speaker
It was like, wow, something like that. My guess is that he took money from, he's taking money from the book sales. He took the deal with, with the Royal teams. Seeing this before. Yeah. That's just my guess up to this point, but the first time watching it, I didn't know. Right. I was like, no, the first time that I would have, I had no idea. Yeah. Yeah. But that kind of betrayal of taking the blood money. Yep.
01:00:27
Speaker
That would that's for sure going to piss her off. Yeah, but I think cheating is worse. Of course it is. That's why that was funny.
01:00:51
Speaker
But then I'm assuming Theo before that conversation called up her booty call, had her come over. And, um, you know, I wonder like, I wonder if she wasn't into the small talk because she kind of gets everything she needs to know about her from the touch. Probably. So like, and it's like an outlet.
01:01:18
Speaker
You know, she's been feeling things all day. She doesn't want to feel anything else. Right. No, I understand. That's why she called her. But she had kicked her out. She didn't want to hear. She didn't want to do small talks. She didn't want to chit chat with her the first time they hooked up or even this time. And I'm like, I wonder if she just kind of knows everything she needs to know already. So why are you going to bore us with chatter where a normal person is like, I would like to connect with you on a different level, please.
01:01:49
Speaker
I'm a person. Um, but then she's talking to her, her hook up her booty cold. Cause like she's like, let's talk about our day. Yeah. And she's like, no, like we left out. You left us at an awkward spot. Like let's just talk. He's like, what do you want to talk about my day? Well,
01:02:19
Speaker
I had this girl who I had to call her foster police on her foster dad because he was sexually abusing her. Um, and then she goes into say like, she almost let slip, but her ability was she's like, I touched her and felt, and then she doesn't say, yeah. But then she goes on to say that, um, this little girl was just so much like Nellie. And I think it's very clear why this, she took his case more personal because
01:02:50
Speaker
And like why this case hurt her so much because she she saw now in that little girl and now recently just died. So it's it's very clear why she's why she's so upset. And she she does let the other
01:03:06
Speaker
I don't know her name, but she does let the other woman in. She's like, this is what I do. This is what I had to deal with. That's my day. So you want to sit around and talk about days? You just want to come over here. We go back to the last night.
01:03:28
Speaker
And we see the events of the night through Theo's eyes. Theo is told to take Luke and Nell to the car. Hugh grabs her and Theo receives the flash of images.
Theo's Emotional Breakdown and Character Analysis
01:03:44
Speaker
They're too fast for us to completely understand what's going on.
01:03:48
Speaker
But, um, we see like you slam her mother into the wall or something like that. We see this other woman. So we're just like, what the heck is happening? And go back to the present. And Theo was like, just touch me. And then that was it. The end. What are your thoughts on Theo and putting up walls and everything like that?
01:04:17
Speaker
So the whole thing where she was talking to the little girl about putting up walls when she has a conversation later with somebody else, she's referencing this little girl saying she has so many walls up that I couldn't feel anything. I think she wasn't talking about herself to the little girl. I think she was just explaining to the little girl what she was doing.
01:04:40
Speaker
But using herself as like a, I do this so it's safer for the little girl to hear because it's not like you're doing this. You know what I mean? So maybe Theo is building, has built up walls. Like you said, she has a gate, but I think she was just trying to explain it to the little girl in a safe way what she was doing. Okay.
01:05:03
Speaker
And how she explained it to her, I don't want to call her a booty call, but to the girl that she invited over, that the little girl had to shove the abuse so far down into her subconscious, it created a monster to let her cope. So I don't think personally that Theo builds up these thick walls. I think she was just using that as a way to explain to the little girl what she was doing.
01:05:32
Speaker
Okay. So you think, cause I think Theo does feel cold at times, but I have to be able to like detach yourself. Yeah. Especially with that gift and in the line of work that she's in. Yeah. That's a fair assessment. So, but you do think she lets herself feel
01:05:59
Speaker
And she lets herself get into the person's head, but she also has to take the time to just let herself detach and let herself just be cut off from everyone else. Well, she uses coping mechanisms like sex and drinking and partying to cope with those things, like you were saying, with children who experience abuse end up
01:06:26
Speaker
with problems with alcohol and drugs and depression and anxiety, that alcohol and drugs are like band-aids. They're an escape. It's an escapism for a lot of people, for a lot of addicts and alcoholics. It's a way to escape, not feeling your feelings.
01:06:42
Speaker
So I think that's what Theo does is she uses those coping mechanisms as a release in what she has to deal with. But I do like, it's kind of like an altruism where she takes on those kids' emotions and feelings and thoughts to help them. So that's admirable to me, even though she might be using what some would consider unhealthy coping mechanisms to deal with it at the end of the day. So I do like her, I'm gonna give her like an eight.
01:07:11
Speaker
Okay. Cause I, I like a person that isn't gonna, you know, um, what's the word? Like that's, that's going to be upfront with you. You know, you know what you get when you talk to them. I like appreciate that. And people, yeah, people can see it as like bluntness and like rudeness, but yeah, if you're just honest with somebody, just straight up, you know,
01:07:35
Speaker
Yeah, I appreciate that kind of personality where it's like, okay, I don't have, like nothing is going to surprise me about you. I get what I get.
01:07:44
Speaker
Yeah. I also gave her an eight. I'm right there with you. I think it's a great starting point for Theo because like as a kid, she sticks up for Luke. Like she is there for her siblings as much as she can be. She believes Luke. She believes Luke and now I've had these experiences. Um,
01:08:08
Speaker
which leads her to her line of work. Like she believes the kids, she's there for the kids to help them. And to be on their side when no one else really is. I think that's a noble thing, even if it causes her to have these unhealthy coping mechanisms and to kind of like be closed off to some people sometimes.
01:08:32
Speaker
Um, but I think she's got a lot of hurt and everything that maybe she doesn't necessarily experience herself, but she takes on some of the hurt from other people. Um, and she, she's very empathetic, um, and really feels what other people feel. Um, and I, I, I love her character. I love the way Kate single plays her. Um,
01:08:59
Speaker
I don't really have anything bad to say. I think it is a good starting point to see where she goes from here. Definitely my favorite sibling that we've gone into so far. I'm not counting Nell or Luke because it hasn't been their episode yet, but every episode it's been better. The siblings have been better.
01:09:22
Speaker
Well, it's like more layers are peeled away. We get more to the story. Yeah. We understand a lot of these other nuances before, because we didn't know like in the other episode, why is she wearing gloves? Now we know why she wears the gloves. So. I want to be just like on Theo and wear gloves. Yeah, that's cute. Shirley didn't really go up or down. Steve didn't really go up or down for me either.
01:09:50
Speaker
Steve might have gone down just a little bit for me, but I'll leave him more as that. But yeah, it's cool to see where she is and where her arc is going to go, knowing the things that I do know. I think we've kind of just talked enough about her, so I don't need to go fully any more deep into her.
01:10:16
Speaker
The little girl who plays her as a child is fantastic. She does such a good job. She's so cute. I think I've seen her in other things. Oh, she's gorgeous. She's really cute. I don't think I can find it. Because I know I've seen her in other things and she's always just does a very good job.
01:10:42
Speaker
Pausing to IMDB. Oh, McKenna Grace is her name. She was in Ghostbusters Afterlife. Uh-huh. Annabelle comes home. Gifted. Oh, that's where I saw her in. A friend of the family on Peacock.
01:11:10
Speaker
tells a true story of Jan Broberg, which just one of the weirdest true crime stories ever, ever. And then the way they did the dramatization version on Peacock, they did such a good job. And I think the actual Jan Broberg was involved in how they told that story. Okay.
01:11:37
Speaker
But yeah, you should watch that. It's sad, but it's like so creepy but so weird that I like binged it. I might have to watch that then. Yeah. I don't know if you should watch like the true crime version on Netflix first or the version on Peacock. I don't know. We'll have to see. Yeah.
01:12:03
Speaker
I think she was also young Captain Marvel or young Carol Danvers. Oh, yeah. Captain Marvel. Yeah, she's been a lot of stuff, but she was good in this one. You can kind of see her blonde roots poking through, which is kind of funny. Yeah. That's all I have for this episode. Do you have anything else? I've got Corey's comments.
01:12:32
Speaker
Corey's comments. So the part where Luke is in the dumb waiter, Corey said, does he die? No, we've literally already seen him as a grownup. And he's like, which one is he? The author? No, he's not the author.
01:12:51
Speaker
Well, remember he fell asleep during the first episode. I said, no, he's not the author. He's the one that looks like he's an addict. And he goes, oh, oh, this is the start of his addictions. That's a good one. And then the part where Theo takes the ladder into the basement. He said, this looks like a Michigan basement. And I was like, oh, yeah, it does.
01:13:19
Speaker
we were both children. Coincidentally, we both had childhoods in Michigan, him longer than me, but I have distinct memories of Michigan basements or sellers, you know, but yeah, it very much looks like a Michigan.
01:13:35
Speaker
And then the last one. We just lost all of the people listening in Michigan. They're like, enough of this basement slander. Well, I'm not saying you have zombies in your basement or bootlegging barrels. I'm just saying it's like a, it's like a basement for my childhood. And I bet all the people from Michigan are like, yeah, yeah, it does.
01:13:59
Speaker
Although like a lot of them had like a stone stair, like not stone, but like a cement stairway from the outside or like a hatch in the kitchen. I remember going through a hatch in the kitchen down a ladder into a basement in Michigan or Indiana. It was probably Michigan, but the last one, when Theo was drinking after, just after learning that Nell died, he said, why would a psychologist be drinking in this situation?
01:14:27
Speaker
I'm like, why wouldn't she? And just use the school that she got to just not be sad. Just use your skills as a psychologist to get through your own feelings. I mean, theoretically, that's what people would do. But in actuality, I don't think so. But I don't need to expand on any of that. That's what his assessment was.
01:14:57
Speaker
That was Corey's comments. Thank you, Corey. We always appreciate it. Next week, we will be going over episode four, the title of that one being The Twin Thing. And we're getting into Luke, who might be one of my favorite characters. So. Yay.
01:15:21
Speaker
So our jump scares to date, we've got two and a half from episode one. I don't know if we settled on two or three from episode two. We can put three if you want. I have two written down. Because I even wrote two or three question mark. So let's just make it two. So four, five, six, seven and a half to date. Seven and a half. Look at that. And we're not even halfway through yet.
01:15:52
Speaker
What's been your favorite one so far? Like which one got me? Yeah, we could do that. Which one got you? Probably the zombie. It didn't like make me jump, but it it freaked me out. Yeah. The zombie in the basement because like why? Yeah. Because I did not enjoy the sick kitten.
01:16:24
Speaker
I think the one that I wasn't prepared for and ready for is when he was talking to the girls and then his face goes long. I wasn't ready for that one. Oh, that was, that was creepy. It didn't, that wasn't really a jump scare, but like, I think I like put the blanket over my face. Um, I think that's all we have. The next episode is the one where I skipped scenes entirely.
01:16:54
Speaker
I couldn't, I just, I just, no, because I'm not going to watch it alone. So I'm going to power. I'm going to power through. And Corey's comments are just going to make you laugh anyway and hope that go by easier. Well, he gets stressed out too. He like looks at me. He's like, why?
01:17:18
Speaker
We'll stay tuned for next week for next episode, the twin thing. We hope you guys are having a good time on this journey because we for sure are. And I keep saying it, but I just, I can't wait until midnight mass. So if you want to, that's going to be a journey of itself. So.
01:17:45
Speaker
If, if, you know, there's a question, if you could get up in front of an audience and talk for an hour on any subject, what would it be? And I think one of the things would be the intricacies of the midnight. That's going to be so much fun to go over. Maybe we could have a guest host. Oh, and I guess I was just a guest on the podcast.
01:18:09
Speaker
Who? I don't know. Just an idea. Just some random person off the internet. We'll get there when we get there. Just a random dollar idea, I guess. We'll see how this progresses.
01:18:37
Speaker
Well, thank you everyone to listening. We hope you guys have a good week. Thank you. Bye. Bye.