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Episode 4: The Way It Came
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Episode 4: The Way It Came, gives us a look more into Dani's past, and we learn why she's haunted by the shadow with the glasses!
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Surviving the Holidays and Christmas Traditions
00:00:24
Speaker
Hello, everyone. Welcome back to Fans of Flanagan. I'm Laura. And I'm Noah. Noah, I assume you survived the holidays. I'm here. really Me too.
00:00:38
Speaker
Do you guys decorate and do all the Christmas things? We did. We decorated a little bit later this year since we were not home for Thanksgiving. And usually she likes to decorate on like the um Black Friday. But we decorated when we came home. And our decorations are still up. that was goingnna that way on my neck That was my next question is, do you have your stuff taken down yet?
00:01:04
Speaker
Yeah, we were going to put a ticket all down last Sunday. Um, but we had gotten home from some activity and we, we just looked at each other and we're like, no, not today. we're equal to it
00:01:19
Speaker
That's fair. That's fair. I made an effort. No, go ahead. I was going to say, hopefully it doesn't turn into like two years ago where we left it up till July. So you really at that point, it just stays up, right? I was trying to convince her to let it stay up and she's like, no, no, we have to take it down. If it's not down by February, I vote, keep it up. What about you? Um,
00:01:48
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I tried this year. I'm not a decorator and I, on top of all the other duties of running a house and kids and now we've got a part-time job. it's it's doing like extra things. So we always put up the tree and we have a few other little decorations that kind of go around. But my kids have been asking, can we decorate more? So this year I said, sure, we can decorate more. So I did, I decorated the entryway and it was really pretty. I'll have to send you the video that I took because I tried taking photos and it just couldn't it just couldn't show the majesty of my little display in the entryway. but
00:02:29
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um And I was really impressed when it was time to take everything down. We took our stuff down on Sunday. My kids were really efficient. They got everything off of the tree, had it loaded into the boxes. I think my oldest son was the one that actually took the tree apart because we are fake tree people. Yeah.
00:02:46
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um And I was like telling myself, got to remember the decorations in the entryway, got to remember the ones on the shelves, because I have shelves in my dining room here, um on the piano. And and we did. We got it all done. It took like 45 minutes. It wasn't a bad deal at all.
Lighting Preferences and Christmas Tree Debates
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I was really happy.
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Speaker
I dread decorating for Christmas. I don't like it. Especially the tree part. I hate fluffing the tree. It is so frustrating and annoying to me. That's why you have kids. Because then you're like, your team fluff. You guys got to fluff everything. I know. I'm so excited.
00:03:33
Speaker
We're not talking about timelines yet. It could be in, you know, three years, four years, five years, just in case i used to grandparents are listening. Yeah. Like I used to tell her when, when I was about to propose, I would keep saying soon, just keep saying soon. Soon.
00:03:55
Speaker
so soon. No, this, yeah because I hate s fluffing the tree too, but i like I can't do live trees. That's a whole different thing. So, but this year, you know, my youngest is seven, my oldest is 16. I was like, get at it. And so all four of them just row by row fluffed the tree and it's pre-lighted. It's perfect.
00:04:19
Speaker
I think we're going to spend some money this year and get a pre lit tree because that also is not fun. So I think the tree is the worst. Support your pre lit decisions.
00:04:35
Speaker
It's a good game changer. I'm so happy we have and you can like have different set. You can have like the white. You can have white blinking in and out. You can have the colors. You can have it go from color to white to colors. um So it's really fun. And so my kids, they all have different opinions. So like every day it would be, it would be different. And then after a while they kind of forgot about it and then they turned it off for a week. It's like, why isn't the tree on? Yeah.
00:05:06
Speaker
I love having the lights on at night, especially when we go to sleep. It serves no purpose. But like if you if I were ever to go wake up in the middle of the night and walk out, I just love having the tree lit. Yeah. But before that we go to bed, she wants to unplug it like, no, leave it on. It's that ambiance. I love it so much. Yeah. Yeah.
00:05:31
Speaker
It's perfect. Are you the kind of person that likes the big light on or do you like the small lights on? Not decorations, but like lamps would be a small light. Big light is the ceiling light. Like, are you a big light person or a small light person? No, I'm a small light. um If any lights have to be on, I prefer small lights. I honestly prefer to live in darkness.
00:05:55
Speaker
I don't like having the lights on. I love my wife, but what does she do as soon as she gets home? She turns on every single light in the apartment. I'm like, babe, you're not even in the closet. Turn the light off. She's like, no. I married a big light person too. he All the lights everywhere.
00:06:21
Speaker
Yep. Like when we havevising her light on I know and the kitchen light on you don't need the big bright dining and he likes the white LEDs. I like the more natural kind of light ah LED light bulbs. He likes the fluorescent make you feel like you're in a public restroom.
00:06:40
Speaker
lights and I can't ah can't handle it. So i at Costco, I found these adjustable LED d light bulbs where you can set the color that's got three settings. And so I said, OK, this is our compromise because I want it down here on the extra warm. You want it up here on the extra cool. We're just going to put it in the middle and we'll both hate it. And he was like, fine.
00:07:05
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Like you're not here enough to really have that much of an opinion.
00:07:14
Speaker
Excuse me. No worries. I yeah i just what. No, I was going to say when we're watching a movie, like we have light coming from the TV. We don't need to have the overhead light on. We can see the TV better if we turn on the light.
Laura's Unexpected Love for 'Wicked'
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especially with how dark every single show and movie is yeah it's like they don't want us to see anything right what have you been watching speaking of TV I have been watching a lot Not so much TV, although I do have a TV show to recommend, but more movies because I am abusing my A-list for AMC. I have seen Wicked three times in the theaters. No kidding. Three times. I didn't really know much about it going into it for the first time, other than that it was a musical about the two of them. And I honestly was
00:08:18
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kind of hesitant, not really wanting to go see it. And then I came out absolutely loving the movie. It was really good. And I cannot stop thinking about it. The music is infectious. The choreography is infectious. The movie is really good. It's really, really good. If I had one complaint, I'd probably say maybe the pacing and maybe the second half of the movie is a little bit wonky. But if you haven't seen it, I would wholeheartedly recommend it so.
00:08:48
Speaker
I haven't had a chance to go see it yet. So that's promising. My daughter is begging to go. And then my boys were like, we want to go, too. And I said, it's a musical. And they both went, oh, never mind. And then they were like, what's it about? And so I explained the premise and they're like, oh, maybe actually I do want to see that. Oh, OK. I I think they might enjoy it, too. It's surprisingly funny.
00:09:17
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Uh, a lot of times too, but it's got a really good, um, depth of emotion as well. So, um, I cried multiple times during that movie. I am not ashamed to admit it.
Nostalgia for Physical Rentals and Streaming Frustrations
00:09:30
Speaker
Um, it's really good. I think, I think Amazon, you can watch it on Amazon. Yeah, you can rent it or buy it now. It's expensive. Yeah, exactly.
00:09:43
Speaker
I just saw it. I want to see how expensive it is. It's like $20 to rent. If I remember right. Probably.
00:09:56
Speaker
Yeah, it's like $20 to rent it. It's 30 to buy it. Yeah. Yeah.
00:10:04
Speaker
Can I complain about renting on streaming for a second? Because it's not like you rent it and then you can just watch it as much as you want for 24 to 48 hours. Oh no, you have like a limited time to just watch it once. And then they're like, okay, you're done. It really makes me miss the rental stores where you could go get a disc.
00:10:30
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and watch it for five days. I think Blockbuster, the new movies were two days and then the rest were five days, but you can just watch it as much as you want. Hey, you're a millennial. Maybe a lot of time. huh millennials national It is, but it's valid. I used to work at a Hollywood video.
00:10:54
Speaker
My family never really used Blockbuster. Back when Netflix would actually send you discs, we would do that instead of Blockbuster. Yeah. And it was just recently they stopped that service, wasn't it? Was it? I thought it was- Within this last year, they announced that they're finally discontinuing that service. Interesting.
00:11:17
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They split the services. So when you had the subscription to get the discs in the mail, you automatically got the streaming service. And then a few years after that, they split it to where you had to choose either or, or just pay for both. And, uh, it was just within, if I'm remembering right within this last year or two that they said they're discontinuing the, ah male the the discs by mail permanently. Hmm. I wonder why it lasted so long. Uh.
00:11:46
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Gen X and older, maybe maybe. Oh, even my parents have streaming, so. Yeah. Yeah. Speaking about streaming, I saw it ends with us on Netflix. um I.
00:12:06
Speaker
It was not my pick. I'll say that it's it was not my pick to watch, but I agreed to watch it. I did not like it. I thought it was boring and stupid and poorly written. oh Oh, have you been following any of the drama between the actors? Oh, all of it.
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did you know
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that Baldoni's edit with his original editing team tested way better with the test audiences than the released. Hmm. Who would have thought? Yeah. I wonder if after some legal proceedings, if we'll get that version, because I haven't seen it. It's just not something I was interested in watching anyway. But the drama I have been following.
00:13:00
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The drama is way more entertaining than the actual.
00:13:05
Speaker
She just keeps digging her own grave. I'm sorry. Just shovel just full just digging, digging, digging. Somebody compared her said she's the new Amber Heard and that's that's too much.
00:13:23
Speaker
But yeah, and I don't want to use our time digging into that, but that rabbit hole has been entertaining. It's gotten me like um Perez Hilton's videos now show up on my algorithm and I'm not mad at about it.
00:13:43
Speaker
I'll quickly go through the rest of these. So we spent too much time watching it. I went and saw Interstellar and IMAX when it was when it came out back to theaters and IMAX because I never got to see it in theaters. It was a religious experience.
00:13:58
Speaker
I. Wow. That's such a good movie, and it was amazing seeing it like that. I might have to watch it again because the first time I watched it, I was just stressed the whole time. Yeah. Yeah. I think I'm going to have to give it a second take. Hans. Yeah. No, I love that movie. It's it's now one of one of my favorite movies of all time. It has to be behind Lord of the Rings because Lord of the Rings. Wow. But it's probably second.
00:14:27
Speaker
That's really high up there. Holy moly. Wow. Yeah. Um, speaking of Lord of the Rings, I also watched the Lord of the Rings, the War of the Rehiram, the animated movie that came out. Wasn't very impressed, which is very sad. Um, there's some good things about it, but I wasn't very impressed. Are you, did you read the books? Are you a book Lord of the Rings guy or just a movie Lord of the Rings guy?
00:14:54
Speaker
So I haven't read the books yet. My okay dad used to read us The Hobbit when we were younger. But I am going to be I just bought it. Actually, I have it sitting on my shelf. I'm going to be reading it after I finish Wind and Truth, which I am maybe two thirds of the way done with. Wow.
00:15:15
Speaker
Yeah. Cause I feel like that, I don't want to call it a cartoon, but the animated movie is those anything outside of the trilogy and then the Hobbit movies are really, I think the only people that are really going to care about them are the book readers. And I say that, you know, respectfully, I'm not trying to, that's not a negative statement, but I, I didn't want to go watch it cause I haven't read the books and I figured I wouldn't really care. And so.
00:15:45
Speaker
Your review just kind of helps me know that I made the right choice for myself. I would say wait for streaming for that one. Wait for streaming. I also went and saw Craven in theaters that went as well as you could probably expect. So watch Nosferatu in Dolby. and dulby and the the first half of that movie feels like the space and time in between when you are falling asleep and then when you were actually asleep. I don't know if there's a word for that, but I would probably is. Yeah. Well, I was there. I was in it. I was having a great time. um The second half wasn't as strong to me, but I think that's just a personal taste. The movie is beautiful. It's it's Robert Eggers, so it's absolutely beautiful.
00:16:42
Speaker
Um, the casting was very well done. Lily Rose debt was, I don't know how I feel about her performance yet. I might have to watch it again, but, um,
00:16:54
Speaker
that's That's not Bill Skarsgard. There's no way that's him as Count Orlak. It's crazy but what he did and what the prosthetics and makeup people did to him. um But that's not there's no way that I refuse to believe that's him. But overall, I enjoyed it. I thought it was a good movie. And then the last thing that I saw recently in theaters was Den of Thieves 2.
00:17:21
Speaker
Not good. Not good at all. The first one. I don't even know if I've heard of that one. Or the first one. There are heist movies. Okay. The two main people would be Gerard Butler and then O'Shea Jackson,
Movie Reviews: 'Den of Thieves 2' and 'Day of the Jackal'
00:17:40
Speaker
I think his name is. He's the son of Ice Cube. How did I miss a Gerard Butler movie?
00:17:46
Speaker
I don't know. I don't know either. Very manly in that one too, so you might like it. He's kind of a jerk. I like him burly.
00:18:05
Speaker
I won't tell you. He's burly. I know, I know, I know. No, I tell him. Yeah.
00:18:17
Speaker
Anytime we, we see Aaron Taylor Johnson or something, I'm like, Hey babe, look, it's your crush.
00:18:28
Speaker
Um, anyway, the second night of thieves, uh, I personally did really not like it. So, um, I could see other people's liking it, but I didn't like it. And then my final watch, uh, and then I'll shut up is, um, the day of the Jackal on peacock.
00:18:47
Speaker
It's about um Eddie Redmayne plays an assassin and Lashana Lynch, who you might know from the most recent James Bond movie. She was the next 007. She plays a MI6 operative that's trying to catch him. Okay. And and it is very good. Very fun. I really enjoy it. I haven't finished it yet, but I really enjoy it.
00:19:13
Speaker
Please go ahead. Very cool. What was the series you were going to recommend? The Day of the Jackal. Oh, that's a series. Okay. Yeah. I'm caught up now. Okay. Sorry. No, it's fine. I think I even knew that.
00:19:31
Speaker
Uh, okay. Uh, so I watched, um, in the theater, we went and saw Sonic three. Okay. It holds up great with the other two. I enjoyed it. Like you just meet it where it is. It's a, it's a Sonic hit the hedgehog movie. And if you just go in to be entertained, it was really fun. Plus Jim Carrey came out of retirement for Sonic three, which I'm like, very good. That is adorable. Like for the kids, you know,
00:19:59
Speaker
And he gets to play his own father, or his own grandfather, excuse me, he plays his own grandfather. um And they have a ah dance scene with each other. And it was fantastic. It was so good.
00:20:17
Speaker
And I don't know if this is a spoiler or not. And I won't i won't i won't comment on it if if you're really like invested in and seeing it without any spoilers.
00:20:29
Speaker
Um, I, in this case, I don't think it will impact my viewing experience. Okay. It's not that serious, yeah but you know, it's got the character shadow, played by, voiced by Keanu Reeves. Excuse me. So cool. Um, and there's a scene towards the end. It's kind of like the climax of the movie where they are both, um, in chaos mode.
00:20:56
Speaker
And they're fighting each other. I was rooting for Shadow. I was very much rooting for Shadow to win. And he was still the villain at that point. ah But I was like, yeah, Sonic's been a little bit annoying this movie, so I'm not sad to see him get beat up pretty good.
00:21:17
Speaker
um So I recommend that one. Like if you want to wait for streaming, it'll probably be on something really, really soon. And I i watched it's what's inside. That one's on Netflix. I've heard of that. It's not ringing a bell.
Intriguing Movies: 'Wolves', 'The Gentlemen', and 'Woman of the Hour'
00:21:35
Speaker
I'm looking it up.
00:21:37
Speaker
I don't want to say too much about it just because the whole plot is really fun to watch unfold in real time as you watch the movie, but it's kind of got like Clue vibes. You remember the movie Clue with Tin Curry? It's got the same kind of... In a weird way, it's got vibes like that. It's got like this... I can't even say. I can't even say, but...
00:22:05
Speaker
it's It's a twisted movie. I have to watch it again. But don't read any other synopsis. Just kind of watch it cold. okay what they what they What I heard about it was right. You just watch it cold for the best experience. But um I want to watch it again because it's a little convoluted in a certain aspect. Oh, I watched Wolves with Brad Pitt and George Clooney. I had talked about wanting to watch it. I actually did watch it. That one was a fun watch.
00:22:33
Speaker
okay um I've been, I just started the gentlemen on Netflix. Uh, I like it so far. I really like it so far. yeah And the other one I've been watching, it's not a serious watch, but it's entertaining, but nobody wants this with, um, what's her face from the good place. I'm terrible with names. christtenbo Yeah. With Kristen Bell. That one is, that one is really fun, actually.
00:23:07
Speaker
I like, I like how they're, I like how they've, uh, written that. And then I tried to watch woman of the hour with Anna Kendrick, I think. And I can't it's, it's too. Oh, it's about that serial killer from the seventies that was on a dating show game, like in real life. And, but it shows him.
00:23:38
Speaker
killing his victims. And it's too realistic. Okay. Because they it's all close up. And there's no soundtrack over it. It's too much like real life. So I like have been watching it in little pieces. like It's scary. Yeah, like every, you know, it's we'll see if I get through that one because I don't know if I it's I don't know if I want to.
00:24:09
Speaker
And there was probably something else that I was watching, but I can't remember what it was. So I think I'll just leave it at that unless it pops into my head later.
00:24:28
Speaker
Well, you definitely have always been better about watching TV shows than I have better. I don't know if that's a flex. I mean, considering that, like, we're we have like a TV podcast ah to show. I'm just waiting for you to start lost.
00:24:50
Speaker
Oh, I don't know how soon I'll get to it because I feel like there's so much else I have to watch. Yeah, I'll just I'll just wait patiently. it's creepy But I do really want you to watch the ring. I'm going to I'm going to see that stuff. So.
00:25:18
Speaker
I haven't forgotten to watch it and I haven't forgotten because on my safari app, I have the ring. web page So I don't forget about it. So I remember to watch it. So awesome. And I'm still going to watch the menu.
00:25:39
Speaker
Is that what it's called? Yes. I'm still going to watch that. I just don't know when I have time to like sit down and actually, I want to be able to pay attention, you know?
Exploring 'The Haunting of Bly Manor': Episode 4 Analysis
00:25:54
Speaker
Okay. Let's get into episode four. The Haunting of Bly Manor. The way it came.
00:26:04
Speaker
So this episode opens a little bit differently. We see two children in a bedroom that we've never seen before. And they're just kind of chatting with each other, little girl and the little boy. Little boy just got glasses and they are round.
00:26:19
Speaker
They look familiar. We cut to a fast forward and it's Danny. And I couldn't tell if she was going to like a party or a prom or a wedding or something, but it's, you know, the same, you can, you know, it's, it's implied that it's the same people and the, the man has the round glasses.
00:26:42
Speaker
um and as they walk into the room it's kind of revealed um what kind of party it is and there's a sign on the wall that says from childhood sweethearts to happily ever after with a heart collage like you have i was like oh noah has that I forgot that you saw that. Yeah. is that My computer just usually doesn't piece that way. There we go. Yep. There it is.
00:27:16
Speaker
And we learned that his name is Edmund and he goes by Eddie and on the wall, it says Danielle and Edmund. We get some more exposition as Edmund is making a speech at this party about how he's always been in love with Danielle. And I keep thinking it's like a reception. I'm like, I don't remember her actually being married, but, and then I was like, Oh, nevermind. It's not a reception. It's an engagement party. Yeah.
00:27:41
Speaker
But the party continues with a lot of dancing. Her soon-to-be mother-in-law pulls her aside and gifts her her wedding dress. And you can't really tell if Danny likes the dress or not. We flash forward to the show's present day to the manor where Danny is wearing black and she's in a room alone and she looks really, really sad.
00:28:06
Speaker
Jamie comes in, she's wearing black, and then it's revealed that they're going to Owen's mother's funeral. Jamie can see that Danny is having a hard time and kind of lets her know that she doesn't really have to go and doesn't need her to be her date to Owen's mom's funeral. Danny asks her to help take her dress off. As she's helping with the zipper, Danny sees the reflection of the silhouette in the mirror and gasps. I think Jamie like asks if she pinched her.
00:28:34
Speaker
So Jamie leaves says she'll be back in a few hours after the funeral. Outside, Danny finds Flora playing in the garden near the church. And Flora says she doesn't like funerals either. And Flora explains that at her own parents' funeral, they weren't the bodies essentially weren't there because they died so far away.
00:28:55
Speaker
And how it was silly that they had to bury some empty boxes. Danny says that they'll always be near her and Flora very seriously explains. No, they won't. But we can pretend for your sake.
00:29:08
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just
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in the church, Hannah is there at the candles again. And Annie is explaining why she's not at the funeral. And then Hannah says that she understands and that she grieves in her own way. And this line, oh my gosh, i wrote challenge she says how Owen understands that basically funerals are for the living.
00:29:37
Speaker
okay If that doesn't just like give it away right right there, like if you're not obviously the first watch, you're not paying attention to that huge, huge clue.
00:29:51
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But like, I don't know how how I missed that the first time watching. so Hannah leads Flora to the house to start helping with dinner and Danny goes to light a candle. Our narrator says that she lights it not in remembrance of those that are lost but to atone for moments she didn't remember but is happy to have forgotten.
00:30:16
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And then she walks over and picks up. ah So Flora had been on the floor making some rubbings of the the tomb covers, like kind of like the gravestones in the floor. um And I couldn't see the dates, but I think it said Viola Lloyd. yeah And the dates were something like 1040 to 1080, 10 something to 1080. Yeah, I couldn't see the dates that well. I know that I went back a few times in the the and the death year was 1080.
00:30:48
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So everybody's in the kitchen prepping for dinner and Jamie comes in. She's back from the funeral. Danny offers to make tea and everybody yells no. No, thank you.
00:31:02
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Jamie talks about the funeral and how on some level it's probably a relief for Owen that his mother is passed as she had severe dementia. Danny gets up to rinse things at the sink and feels hands on her waist. And what did you think about, like, because in the shot it's physical hands and they're like in black gloves.
00:31:26
Speaker
I didn't really have any thoughts about it just oh that's kind of creepy. Yeah, why is it why is it more like serial killer vibes with like the black gloves. Yeah, because all the other apparitions were.
00:31:41
Speaker
not as physical, I guess. And then it's like real hands and gloves. Yeah. But there was something that um Owen was talking about when he was talking about his mom having to mention. He said something along the lines of losing yourself a little bit each day. Yeah. I just think that line plays it a big role into what we figure out. It does. I think he says that a little bit after this.
00:32:11
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because he hasn't, he hasn't covered yet. Oh, did I skip ahead too much? You did. You should be. I'm bad. You're right. That's okay. You're forgiven. Anyway, she feels hands on her waist and in the reflection in the sink, she sees the silhouette behind her shoulder. It upsets her and she leaves the room and now she's in the hallway and in the window she sees Peter.
00:32:34
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the guy from the last episode in the windows. She runs to the front door like she's kind of walking parallel to the windows and so is Peter and so she sees him like over and over again she sees that this is Peter, Quint, and then she gets to the door and she's got a ah fire poker and she opens it but it's Owen coming back early from the funeral. um The children remark how weird it was, how Hannah made Owen's favorite dinner, even though they were not expecting him to be there. So now we flash back to Danny's wedding dress fitting, wearing the mother-in-law's wedding dress. I thought I looked so pretty.
00:33:15
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Flashing forward, everybody's in the kitchen having dinner, and Danny is still looking very stressed. Owen jokes about being attacked at the door. Flora makes a joke about how Hannah really, really, really likes Owen. And Flora tells Owen that he's not dying. And she explains that when her parents died, she thought that she was dead. But it only feels like dying, and you can only feel things because you're alive.
00:33:40
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And she has a secret that dead doesn't mean gone, so you don't need to be sad. And I don't know if it's there when Owen is talking, but ah Miles asks for some wine. And they're like, haha, no. And then they're like, and then Miles says, Peter used to give me some. And then other the others are kind of like, oh, yeah, i this person in my life gave me wine when I was a kid. Oh, yeah, this person gave me a drink when I was younger.
00:34:09
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And then Miles slams his hands on the table and says, I just want a bloody drink.
00:34:21
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excuse He had a long day at work, you know. he yeah excuse's He's been stressed. Poor child. We're working overtime.
00:34:32
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Danny gets up and sends him away from the table. He sounded very grown up in his demand. The children are both sent to bed and as Flora is brushing her teeth, Danny sees that the dollhouse creaks open on its own.
00:34:45
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Danny peeks inside and it kind of feels like a jump scare is coming. So I was kind of like tensed, like waiting for a jump scare. ah But Danny picks up one of the figures and Flora says, no, don't pick up my stuff. You gotta to leave them where they are. The one she picks up is Peter. Danny asks Flora if she's seen Peter or has let him into the house. And Flora says, of course we don't let him into the house. That's not how it works.
00:35:12
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not Not Peter's not here. It's right let him in. Yeah. Like why would you, if you're an adult, we'd be like, why did you respond to me like that? That's such a weird way to respond. So then Flora is kind of gazing over Danny's shoulder and Danny asks, why are you always looking over my shoulder? And Flora says, I don't know what you're talking about.
00:35:36
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These gosh darn kids, man, these kids. yes
00:35:41
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In Miles's room, Danny explains to him how they are actually a lot alike, how Danny has lost people in her life and how it makes you special because you end up growing up faster and you also kind of get to choose the grownups in your life.
00:35:57
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uh downstairs jamie takes danny outside to a little bit of a bonfire in the gardens with some wine hannah seems distracted and she remarks that she has been drifting a lot lately Another clue. Danny stares into the fire and then we flashback to Danny and Eddie at dinner. Danny seems sad and or stressed and tells Eddie she maybe doesn't want to have such a big expensive wedding. And with more prodding from Eddie, she actually admits that she can't marry him.
00:36:34
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um It cuts to them talking in the car. She's explaining how she feels stuck because everybody is expecting them to get married and she doesn't want to hurt anybody. She still loves him and Eddie is getting really, really upset. Asks, why are you doing this to me?
00:36:52
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Eddie is really, really mad and leaves the car. His glasses reflect the headlights of the van that suddenly runs him over. Danny runs out to the street over to him as he's laying there on the road. We flash forward back to the bonfire. Jamie is explaining why it's called a bonfire and asks if anyone has any old bones to throw out. Let me go back to that scene. Did you remember that that was the moment? I mean, kind of leading up to it, you know that something's going to happen. but Did you know that was, did you remember that that was what had happened? Oh yeah. I remember that had happened. I remember why it happened. And I knew all of it, like I remembered all of it. And so this episode I was able to pick out
00:37:44
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So ah a lot of the nuance that was going on throughout the episode about her trying to be thankful and trying not to hurt anyone's feelings, but being very unhappy herself and like sort of being led along down this path. Yeah.
00:38:10
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And. I want to start this off by saying, I don't think anyone is and all the way right or all the way wrong. No one is a hundred percent the villain and no one is a hundred percent the, the, the victim in this scenario.
00:38:29
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But I severely, severely disagree with what she did. Um, and maybe that's why she has so much guilt over it.
00:38:42
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because if she had done things differently, maybe he wouldn't have died like that. So I understand the the manifestation of seeing him in all all of the reflective surfaces, I think that's a manifestation of her guilt. Oh, 100%. Yeah, easily. And while I don't ah agree that she should be continue to suffer, I think she needs to recognize that she did make mistakes.
00:39:09
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Um, do you think her mistake was waiting so long to be honest? Yes. Okay. Not that she wasn't going to marry him, but that she waited so long into the engagement and wedding planning, making him think that everything was fine when she knew that it wasn't. Yeah. Even the dating process.
00:39:34
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Yeah. Well, you notice that the engagement party, when he's making his speech about how long they've known each other and that cute little backstory he told, she doesn't look happy. She looks stressed.
00:39:46
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Um, again, I'm not trying to say she's completely wrong and that she made all these mistakes and then he's the victim here and he did nothing wrong. But, uh, she also, I feel like that was a big mistake that she made. She, she,
00:40:04
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led him to believe things that weren't true because she was I liked and she ended up hurting him more in the long run. Yeah, it's a hard spot to be in but I liked how she had said to him she kept waiting to feel how she was quote supposed to feel she just assumed that like maybe at the engagement I'm this is you know me assuming maybe when we're engaged I'll feel happy and then And then she isn't happy at the engagement. And so then maybe she's thinking, maybe when we're married, that's when I'll feel happy. That's when I'll feel how I'm supposed to. But I don't know how else she could have done it. She kind of she kind of held on until she just couldn't anymore.
00:40:55
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I also think this might be at like a good representation of what
00:41:05
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might happen with a lot of women, especially during that timeframe. A lot of stuff that I've heard from again, like stories from people's like grandmas or something like way back, you know how My mind is working really weird right now. So I've seen some TikToks in the past. No, I'm with you. This this young woman was like talking with her grandma and her ah her grandma was telling her the story of how her and her husband met. And the grandmother is like,
00:41:40
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Grandma, are you like kidnapped or something? and It's like super traumatic story, but the grandma frames it to be romantic. And it has made me think a lot. And it's like, did they feel like they had a choice? like Did they feel like they had to do this and they they had there was no other way? And I think maybe this was a good kind of representation of what happens to women.
00:42:09
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I mean, maybe now, but maybe especially a lot back then. Yeah. When it was more of not just, I mean, like expectation to the thousandth degree, this is what you do. You know, you eat, you sleep, you breathe, you get married, you have a family. Like it would be wrong if you didn't also at Danny's age.
00:42:35
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the feeling that you're going to disappoint everybody because look how excited her future mother-in-law was to have, she even had like the big speech about, I'm so excited to have a daughter. I'm so excited to have this dress to pass on to you. And like looking at those people in the face and breaking up with your fiance when everybody is so excited for you. I mean, the engagement party was full of people. um Skipping forward, his funeral Eddie's funeral was full of people.
00:43:06
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you know, people were excited for her. And to be that one person that has to say, no, I can't marry him, that heaviness is real. That stress is so real. And so my perspective is she really held on until she just couldn't any anymore. So was the right thing for her to break it off earlier, maybe say no to the engagement, maybe break up with him when they were dating, maybe.
00:43:32
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Maybe, but to have the maturity to and the strength to be the one to say no, this isn't right for me is so incredibly hard. Oh, I don't fault her for hanging on for as long as she did.
00:43:49
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um I don't know what else she could have done because if she had waited for the wedding to have happened then it's just even you know even worse because now you're married and now you're even more quote stuck.
00:44:07
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I mean, maybe if they had gotten engaged in their 30s or maybe if they had dated for longer or whatever, she would have been she would have had the the maturity and backbone to say no. yeah But she I attribute it just to age and expectation from her community, from her own mother, from her from her fiance's mother, from all the friends.
00:44:34
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that that feeling that you're disappointing everybody is too much. And you're right, that that vision of him always near her is her guilt. Thousand percent it's her guilt because what happens right after she rejects him, he gets mad and he's hit by a van, right? Who wouldn't feel guilty?
00:45:00
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But that was a really startling scene.
00:45:06
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Um, I, I completely agree with you. And then I, I see that point as well.
00:45:17
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And I just, and it's a very complex situation and I can't imagine the.
00:45:25
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the pain and the decision you have to deal with and that yeah do continue to make yourself unhappy just so that others aren't, or are you willing to make yourself or make other people, a lot of people unhappy and upset just for you. And I know how that can seem very selfish, but like sometimes you just need to take care of yourself. Yeah.
00:45:55
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It's one of the most important decisions that you're gonna make in your life who you pair yourself with for the rest of your life.
00:46:05
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And his reaction was completely valid too. Here he is thinking everything is great. And then she tells him, no, it's not. And so he probably feels led on, he feels betrayed. So his anger,
00:46:21
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totally valid. he He handled it a little immaturity by saying why are you doing this to me instead of like trying to understand her point of view. And I think if they had had some more time for him to sit back and reflect and had more another conversation or two, he would have been okay. He would have come to understand Her point of view, right? But he didn't have that because he got hit by a van. So, okay, moving on.
00:46:58
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So it flashed forward to them at the bonfire.
00:47:06
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And Jamie asks if anyone has any old bones to throw out and Hannah starts and is talking about Rebecca the previous Alpere. Jamie toasts to the children's parents, the Lord and Lady Windgrave, and Danny doesn't want to say anything. She's like, no, thank you. Owen starts to talk about his mother. He says all the things he couldn't say at her funeral, all the good things, how much she loved him. She was his anchor, but also at the end, his burden.
00:47:38
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Nothing to really say about that. Oh, I thought that's what you were commenting on. What? No, no, there was a point where he was talking in the kitchen. Oh, in the kitchen. Yeah. or yeah He was, he was like, he was talking about dementia or, or something. And it's like, um,
00:48:00
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What is it? Losing yourself a little bit each day. ah just That quote stuck out to me because of what we learn later about the spirits, I guess you could call them, that are around the house. Okay, I'll keep that in mind. But being a caregiver is exhausting.
00:48:27
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So that comment about it being a relief at the end, there's nothing wrong with that.
00:48:34
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I think it's funny. The relationship between wanting to be needed and then actually being needed. if That makes sense, like it does.
00:48:51
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I think as humans, we want to be needed to be, want to be useful. We want to be helpful, but sometimes when we actually are, it can get exhausting very quickly.
00:49:10
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Flashing back to Danny, they're all at the hospital with Eddie's family and the doctor comes in and shakes his head so we now know for sure that he has died. Danny leaves the room, goes into the bathroom and is having a panic attack. She sees Eddie's reflection in the mirror, the dark silhouette and the reflecting glasses.
00:49:31
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It moves forward to Eddie's funeral. In another mirror, she sees him in the reflection behind her just guilt. I wrote it's just guilt. It's all the guilt. And in front of everybody, she covers the mirror with a jacket.
00:49:45
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um flash forward and Jamie and Danny are walking away from the fire. They go into the greenhouse together. Danny explains to Jamie that she's unsettled because she thought she saw Peter and it's not the first time she has seen things that are not there.
Dani's Emotional Journey and Haunting Experiences
00:50:00
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Jamie asks what else has she seen? She explains how her fiance died and how she sometimes sees him. Excuse me.
00:50:10
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She explains how he died just after they broke up and Jamie asks if he's there now and she says no he's not. Danny asks if she thinks she's crazy and Jamie says she would be surprised that if you weren't crazy.
00:50:24
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I like the moment where Jamie is like telling off the Eddie ghost. That's not there.
00:50:33
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She's like, Hey, you're done. Leave her alone. Suddenly Danny. Nope. That's not what I'm reading. Where am I?
00:50:44
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Okay, so Danny leans in and kisses Jamie and they have a moment. ah Suddenly Danny sees Eddie's reflection and it kills the mood a little bit. Flashing back to Eddie's mom comes to visit Danny and says she's been worried about her. She brings her some food and then also passes on Eddie's glasses to her.
00:51:10
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like not knowing that that's like so traumatizing.
00:51:18
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um Inside her home, her bags are packed and outside there is a cab waiting for her. Flashing forward to the bonfire, Jamie takes Owen to drive him home and then Danny is left there with Hannah. and Cut to inside the house, Flora wakes up and looks into her dollhouse and there's an empty bed and the faceless lady doll is up.
00:51:43
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She calls for miles. Danny is down in the kitchen drinking more wine and is not in her bed. Walking through the hallway, the kids see Danny and say that Flora had a nightmare. Danny wants to put them back in bed and Flora says, not yet. I'm too scared. Flora is explaining her nightmare. She goes on this very detailed made up nightmare.
00:52:05
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um Behind Danny, there is a white figure walking very slowly, very slowly in the background. Miles is watching it. The kids won't go back to bed yet. Flora asks for milk. While Danny is getting the milk, Miles checks and closes the front door. After tucking Flora back into bed on her way back to the kitchen, Danny then sees the footprints on the ground. Says she's going to deal with it tomorrow. And then she goes out.
00:52:33
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to the still burning fire and throws the glasses into it. In front of her, she still sees the live apparition of Eddie. The end. I need you to do me a favor. OK. I need you to open up the show. That episode. OK. Netflix. and Yeah. Yeah. OK. Hold on. Oh, sorry. I got a password. OK. Go to.
00:53:04
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49.05. Okay. if it go Does it just show how much time is remaining left? Is that what it is? Yeah. So okay. So you said 45. 49. So if you go to like four minutes and 20 seconds left,
00:53:23
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Okay, right now it's just telling me how far in I am because I'm toggling the ah slide. Then 49. 46, 47, 48, 49.
00:53:40
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Okay. it It should be her talking her into bed. Okay. Turn your brightness all the way up. I did. I just did. Okay. Okay.
00:53:52
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Now watch and just look at the background and I want to see if we see the same thing while she's still in the bedroom. Yep. OK, let me. Go back because right when she right when she turns off the light that little bit before it transitions to the next scene. OK. What am I? and I'm looking in the background. Look in the background. OK, I see the windows. I see the dollhouse, the windows are lighting up in the back.
00:54:22
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turning off the light.
00:54:27
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Am I seeing things? What did you see? The doll. Am I supposed to be looking at the actual window or the house? Look at the dolls, the group of dolls. What group of dolls? Right next to the dollhouse. OK. I didn't see it. You didn't see it? No, she's turning off the light. There's the dolls.
00:54:54
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She's turning over. I didn't see anything. It's right before she turns over. It's, so, okay. Denny turns off the light, floor is looking, empties, not empties, but goes out of frame. The most, the most prominent doll, the one with the biggest face. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. What is that?
00:55:23
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What was that? Why is it in there? Huh?
00:55:34
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I don't know what I was expecting, but it wasn't that for it to just i turn its head and follow Danny. It wasn't even like a sharp cut. It was it was just it was very small. so I don't know how I caught that.
00:55:50
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That's amazing. There's probably scenes like that throughout the whole show that we are just yeah completely missing. yeah But think of like the practical onset. You've got some sort of like AD sitting underneath the pile with like probably a stick and he's got to turn it. There's someone in his ear like, now.
00:56:15
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And then you have to do that 30 times. Yep. No, that was cool. that's your child That was really cool. Yeah. Yep. I didn't know if I was seeing things or if it actually happened.
00:56:27
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Yeah, no, I was waiting for some bigger movement, like from the cellar, but it was just the the head turn, just that slight head turn. Just very, very slight. So creepy. Very subtle. Yep. Well done. Thank you. I just, I remember singing in the background like, what is that? What was that? I saw that. I don't like that.
00:56:52
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Stop with the creepy dolls, all right? and we We get it.
00:57:00
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Oh, my gosh.
00:57:06
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To go back to the actual context of the but what happened, I like how at the end she's sitting at the fire and she's like, so I guess it's just you and me and she's now confronted. Yeah. Yeah, she's accepted it. She's not. Avoid it anymore. She's like, OK, it's you and me, buddy.
00:57:28
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Yeah, let's do it. I think it was the wine talking. she had a lot wine She grabbed the bottle from the kitchen. She was walking around with it i'm like, Oh, you're saying a great example for your kids. And like, the muddy footprints are back on the floor. She knows it's not the kids.
00:57:53
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And she's like, no. Well, she was with them. Well, she's like, we'll talk about this tomorrow. She had just walked in from outside and they weren't there. But I don't know. She's also drunk. So who knows what she is and is it noticing? She's also like, I'll clean that up tomorrow.
00:58:18
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She's in her Zen era. ah
00:58:25
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Anyway, that's I that's all I had for this episode. Yeah, it'll be interesting. I'll see about the books that because, you know, the whole over arching plot, I guess, is. Is it the turning of the screw? Am I thinking of the right title?
00:58:53
Speaker
for which one this one i know each episode is based on its own story bless you do we sneeze at the same time i coughed i have like all this congestion that i've been like cough it's so gross i'm sorry but you sneeze at the same time
00:59:21
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Uh, but I'm just interested to see like what elements are coming from which story. Cause I think each episode is based on a different work, but the whole series is based on one work. So I think I really give huge compliments to putting this together into one streamlined cohesive story. Pulling from all these different things. So, um, it'll be fun to kind of explore that later. Yeah, absolutely.
00:59:55
Speaker
I just realized there are only nine episodes in this season. Yeah. I thought there were going to be 10, but there's only nine. Yeah. So we're almost to the halfway point. Halfway through your next episode will be halfway done. Yeah,
01:00:18
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yeah it's been fun. It's not. too deep like we haven't really had a lot to delve into but that's okay because last season was heavy next season is going to be heavy so this has been nice yeah it's a it's a good little dark romanticy dark romanticy why do you say romanticy it's not i don't know romantic dark romantic jeez there's some romance
01:00:52
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tort Yeah, a lot more towards the end. Yeah, but yeah. I do remember how scary the last episode is and how climactic it gets.
01:01:08
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Just with how that I don't remember. So be fun. Really? Yeah, that's all I remembered.
01:01:19
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it You have to do like what jump scares got me and which ones didn't or something like that. I haven't, I haven't, except for the dolls head turning. I haven't really had any jump scares. Not really.
01:01:38
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I don't know. I don't think it's a good thing. We didn't do the counter because there really hasn't been too much. Yeah. ah that We've always been consistent with the. Yeah. At the end, I'm like, where are we? I don't know. I lost track. I should have been better about it last season since it was technically my. I will try to be better for the night mass because there are quite a few.
01:02:09
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Yeah, there's, younna yeah, it's, it's similar to the, to the, to the subtle jump scares in this one, but like more intense. Um, because it's like, what is that? What is that? Like, we know this is a, like a moving doll creepy, but like in midnight mass, like, what is that? Yeah.
01:02:30
Speaker
I like it so much. Yeah. I really do like the season. Me too. Are we going to have like an episode where we rank all of them or is that going just going to be included in like the roadmap? We'll workshop something. We'll figure out what we want to rank. We're thinking too far in the future, right? Yeah, I can i think about i can think about now and maybe like a little bit in front of now. That's about it. That's as far as I go. I'm getting corrupted by my planner wife, so.
01:03:09
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I wouldn't call it corruption.
01:03:15
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I guess I'm a very like go with the flow kind of thing. And I just if things come up, then we'll do it and we'll make it happen. Or I just she freaks out if things aren't planned. like Because she's the one that has to make it all happen. Things don't just happen. Things will happen. Things work out. a think i I am for sure that things work out spouse in my relationship.
01:03:39
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. It's so much nicer. nu But my husband's not a planner. He doesn't plan things. he He's like jump into it before you work it out. And that's a little more stressful, I think. Because we're in the middle of it with no plan. Yeah.
01:04:05
Speaker
Oh, goodness. Can you tell her we know our spouses don't listen to our show?
01:04:14
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Just talking crap. All good things. All good things. Um, I think we should bring back Corey's comments for a Midnight Mass.
01:04:25
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I am. I think we should too. I think you'd have a lot of fun at that point. Oh my gosh. He's going to freak out. He's not really wanting to watch it, but I'm like, you don't know what you want. Exactly.
01:04:40
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exactly Exactly. exactly
01:04:49
Speaker
oh um you have to let me know when you get apple tv this is changing the subject because silo has just gotten renewed for season three and four and severance just came out with their season two i haven't started it yet i i'm excited to watch it um it's Here's my frustration right now. This is how I have things set up in my home. These are just parting thoughts. They don't mean anything. So skip ahead to our closing music if you want.
01:05:24
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But our TV upstairs, it's a smart TV, but it's like an older smart TV. So the only application that actually still works is Netflix, but it's like the old old old format of Netflix. Um, so I don't even like try to use it. And so I have my Chromecast plugged in and then I just cast from my phone, but Apple TV is not compatible with Chromecast.
01:05:52
Speaker
Yeah. And the only time I have to like watch something
01:06:00
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with no children around is at the end of the day upstairs in my room. Or I kick my son off of the main TV on the main floor, you know, cause he likes to watch like a show before bed. And I'm like, huh, I'll allow it. Cause I've got my TV upstairs. Corey's at work. It works out. So I get behind on my Apple TV shows because I can't put them on my big TV. I have to watch them either. Like with Corey, cause we have like our little mini date night on Saturdays or Sundays. Hmm.
01:06:37
Speaker
And so he's been watching silo season two. So I can't even like catch up on silo because he's like, you watched it without me, which is fair, but I can't even like catch up on separate. I mean, I could right now, everybody's at school, but I'm so distracted by like all these other things.
01:06:54
Speaker
Anyway, that's my vent for the day. Oh, they're so good. I wish more people had Apple TV, had Apple Plus, because they're doing such a good job with shows. It's surprising hearing more and more about the Apple TV shows. Yeah, it's a contender. I'm telling you. I also want to get it so I can watch Slow Horses because I've heard Gary Oldman is just great in that show, too. I've tried. I can't get into that one. You can't do it. I'm sure it's great. I just haven't given it a try.
01:07:29
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There is the other one with Harrison Ford and what's his name? Yeah, Shrinking. From how I met your mother, Jason. Yeah. Sudeikis? Is that the guy? No. Or is that another Jason? That's another Jason. I don't even know if it's Jason. ah It's called Shrinking. Yeah. I've heard that one too.
01:07:56
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Yeah, I might need to give that an honest try. Jason Siegel. Jason Siegel. I did have the Jason part, right? Yeah, he is a Jason.
01:08:07
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um There's Wolf Like Me on there. That one is great. I really like that one. Oh, yeah. Reminds me, have you seen the trailers for the upcoming movie Wolfman?
01:08:27
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No. OK. I am very, very intrigued and very excited for it. So so why are they bringing back all these. Like old Hollywood horrors like Nosferatu. There's nothing else to do. and they These people have no creativity. They're just recycling all the way back.
01:08:53
Speaker
don't don I'm going to go off on a rant, so I'm going to stop before I do that, because I have such a problem with that. But this movie does look very interesting. Oh, it's got what's her face. I'm excited for it. So Julia Garner, I like her. Is it Julia Garner? Yeah. word Is that her? Yeah. Wow. I didn't realize that was her. I like her.
01:09:25
Speaker
She was in inventing Anna and Ozark. I did not like Ozark because I had just come off of watching Breaking Bad again. And I couldn't do another getting into scary situations with scary people. Yeah. Again, I could i couldn't do it. It was kind of like
01:09:48
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It was kind of like Breaking Bad, where he's like getting into. Anyway, I was like, this feels stressful. Yeah. Yeah. Well, it is directed by the guy who did all of the Saw movies, basically, and oh all the Insidious movies and The Invisible Man. OK, I interrupted your rant. No, no, I told myself I wasn't going to rant because I was going to take up a lot of time.
01:10:18
Speaker
man okay that's fair i think we all have the same feelings with the recycled remakes even fall guy was a remake of an old 80s tv show it's ridiculous they're soulless and they're just stupid and it's it's annoying and will we keep watching them yes we will will will the majority of the population keep watching them will
01:10:50
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Yeah, because I haven't even seen ah the New Mufasa movie. I haven't seen Moana 2. Even though I have the past, I just don't want to go see them. We watched Moana 2. And I have thoughts about it.
01:11:08
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ah Basically, it was supposed to be a Disney plus series and then they switched it up to be a movie and you can tell. OK, you can tell.
01:11:21
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My kid liked it, so that's all. But I loved the first one. First one we can watch all the time. Yeah. I do also think, though, that for these kids' movies, we have to remember that they're for kids, and we need to stop trying to be film critics for all these kids' movies. I'll give that for the sequels. Yeah, I'm not excited for Mufasa. I don't know who asked for that. It wasn't me. Nobody.
01:11:49
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My son really loves Lion King, so he wants to see Mufasa.
01:11:57
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Which Lion King, the newer one or the older one? He loves all of them. He loves the original. He loves one and a half. He loves two. He loves the live action remake. I use quotes on live action because it's all just CGI. So it's just another, it's just Lion King. Why?
01:12:18
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Um, he loves all of it when, uh, I think it was over a Thanksgiving break. He was like, there's a Lion King two cartoon. ah Yeah, buddy. And there's a one and a half. Why did they make a one and a half? It was fun. I don't remember having that on VHS. Yeah.
01:12:45
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Having to put it in the player and then rewind it. Yeah. I remember there was times I can hear it. I can hear the button. I remember before we get too far, I remember having the old Star Wars VHS and they would have the interview with.
01:13:08
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I can't remember the the film critics name, but it was the film critic with like Roger and Ebert, one of those guys. Maybe. OK. But yeah, it was it would have that interview before it I would always get past it. Why these old people talking? Let me watch the movie.
01:13:28
Speaker
and Anyway. Amazing. Good times. Well, that was fans of Flanagan. I think that's a podcast right there. I think we did it. Thanks for sticking with us. Appreciate y'all. And we'll see ya or you'll hear us. I don't know. I always say we'll see ya, but we won't see ya. You won't see us. You'll hear us. Come find us next time when we go to episode five of Haunting of Bly Manor. Bye everybody. Bye.