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When Life Calls You Higher: Spiritual Awakenings, Purpose & the Feminine Rising in the Beauty Industry
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In this sacred, intimate and expansive episode, we sat down for what started as a casual life check-in and a plan for a totally different topic, and ended up in the ethereal - a raw, real conversation about spiritual awakenings, feminine energy, and finding purpose in both life and business. This is the type of conversation you’d hear between us if you were a fly on the wall and we are honored to let you take a front row seat to the depth of our connection in conversation.
We open up about our own awakening journeys, how it’s shaped the way we lead, coach, and connect, and why the beauty industry is shifting toward a more feminine, intuitive energy.
We’ll share grounded advice for anyone walking through a season of deep transformation—how to find your tribe, stay in light energy, and balance the dance between masculine “doing” and feminine “being.”
We also dive into:
• The connection between spirituality and your beauty career
• Practical ways to uncover your purpose
• How feminine energy is redefining leadership and esthetics
• Podcast and book recommendations for spiritual growth
• And how to navigate the highs and lows of awakening with grace
This one is full of heart, soul and the kind of depth that reminds you—you’re not alone on your journey.
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Introduction to Beyond Aesthetics Podcast
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Hello. Hello. Welcome to the beyond aesthetics podcast, the podcast where we dive deep into the journey of aestheticians who aspire to grow, not just professionally, but personally and spiritually.
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This space, this is a space where the art of aesthetics meets the soul and the power of community fuels transformation. Whether you're looking to elevate your skills, expand your mindset or align your career with your deeper purpose, you are in the right place.
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Join us as we explore stories, strategies, and insights that go beyond the surface because growth happens from the inside out. This is beyond aesthetics. Let's grow together.
Makeup Routines and Tips
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And I am.
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your host, Tiffany Orr, and this is my amazing, beautiful, gorgeous, stunning co-host. Go ahead. but My name is Jessica Peterson, and we were just having a moment for makeup.
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So I just feel like my skin is looking really good today. So if you guys want to know, I've been using Maybelline Super Stay Skin Tint for a long time now, and I had switched for a while.
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And then I just went back to my skin tint. And I love it. It stays all day long. It's really lightweight. It has a natural yet kind of like glowy look to it, but it's not too much.
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And the contours that I'm using right now, I think everybody needs to try Labs, Lady Gaga's makeup. She has these like blush bronzer combo sticks that are just beautiful. And yeah, I've been really happy with it. You know what I wasn't happy with though was her foundation, her like glowy foundation that she promotes a lot. I have three bottles of it.
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I don't love it. So the reason why I don't love it though, is how much texture it highlights. So in the morning, it looks really good. And then in the afternoon, you know, I look in the mirror and there's every pore possible. And I don't know, i was like, maybe it's just me. And I was with my sister. Cause sometimes if I'm in Idaho Falls, she'll come to trainings with me.
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And we were in the Maverick bathroom one time after training. And I was like, do my pores look terrible? And you know, Tyra, like she's very much like, she'll, she's not super blunt, but she'll be like, well, maybe.
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She's honest. yes Yeah. Yes. She's like, well, you know, i mean, yeah. I was like, okay, I got to go back to Maybelline. But I think it's so funny. Makeup is such a funny conversation because,
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you can use like the best of the best or the most expensive, you know, and the most healthy or whatever. But I don't know, every once in a while, you'll just find that random drugstore foundation.
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Like it doesn't make you break out. It doesn't clog your pores. And it's, you know, a quarter of the price. And I think makeup is one of those things you really have to just experiment with. Like I can't use Jane Iredale. Yeah.
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Yeah, it makes me break out like crazy, which is so interesting. So I can use Jane Iredell foundation for sure, but I am with you. Like you kind of just have to experiment. You have to play around and you have to kind of change things up for the season for me to.
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Oh yeah. With my skin. It's like, there's certain foundations that I can, it just kind of doesn't work going into winter that maybe worked during the spring and the summer. And so I'm always playing around cause I also get bored and makeup is just such a creative outlet And it's just so fun. And I always like, like to treat myself with minimum makeup and I like to play around with makeup, but I'm also with you too, is there's just some drugstore things that are just so tried and true. I feel that way about cover girl, um, really last ah or it's volume lash, the orange tube of cover girl. Okay.
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I'm just, and I'm such a mascara whore. Like I tried them all. I like, you know, I go through mascara a lot. I use a lot of mascara and cover girls. There's one that always go back to that orange tube, you know, really haven't tried that one and you like a good volume mascara.
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She's pretty great for the price. Does it smudge on your upper lids like halfway through the day? No, I don't feel like it smudges like and concealer, like under eye concealer is something I've knew I've kind of started wearing the last year. So I've had to do a lot of playing around with that because it tends to pull my mascara down.
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um if I wear too much of it, but no, it doesn't smudge on the lids. No, it's pretty stay proof. So what a concealer are you finding that you like? You know, I started with tar and I really like, like the shape tape, you know, and i love that one, but right now I'm using Jane Iredale's concealer. And I think for me, it's less about the actual concealer and it's more about how I'm applying it and how much I'm applying it.
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And so I've just figured out that for me, like less is more, like I just need a little bit. And I actually, i learned this from like this makeup girl that I follow on Facebook random enough.
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Um, she's a makeup artist and she was like, you take your concealer, you have your concealer applicator, you take your concealer brush and you like tap it on the wand and then you take your brush and you like actually remove the excess from the brush and then you go in and then you just like dab it on the underlie. So it's like really subtle and like less is more. You can always apply more, but it's hard when you get too much, you know, it's the same with thing with foundation when you like apply too much and you're just like, damn it.
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I've got too much freaking makeup on my face. Yeah. Like, and I'm kind of stuck like this for the day. So I don't know some technique. I like, I'm kind of obsessed right now with watching makeup artists. And yeah yes, it's like the and now that I've been watching them on my social media, more of it is like popping up.
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I'm like learning these new, like eyeshadow techniques and like, And I am seeing like for women over 40, which I'm like, you know, i am close to that. You and I are 39. Right. But at the same time, I'm like, I don't feel like that fully applies because I don't have like a lot of creepiness around my eyes and I do have like big eyes.
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And so but I'm just super interested in It's been really fun. Oh, that's awesome. Yeah. i love watching makeup videos. Actually, i just go through phases where I'm completely addicted to it and spend so much money on makeup. Yeah. My eyes are incredibly creepy. In fact, just with this past year, I've really struggled with that a lot because I feel like everything else on my face looks great. Like I look great for 39. I love the way that I'm aging.
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But then when you look underneath of my eyes, they're so creepy. and so I've really struggled with concealer, but I'm finding the same thing. The less that I wear of it, the less, you know, it's getting like in my lines and like settling in my lines and just making it look so much worse. Yeah.
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But yeah, it's a lot of trial and error when you know. I know. Where is House Labs sold? Where's Lady Gavis? Is it Ulta or Sephora or both?
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That's a good question. I order it online. okay. Yeah. Yeah. Good to know. I'm obsessed. What did you call the blush? I called it bronzer.
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like don't know if that's even right, but it is just a combo of blush and bronzer sticks that she has. And I love them. And I combine... two different ones. There's like a cinnamon one. That's like a red brown that I do for my contour, but then I put, i think it's hibiscus. It's a more pink one above of it, but they end up just kind of blending together perfectly for for me and for my skin tone. I feel like I've just really landed in a really happy place. And what's nice is that they last forever because I was using OG
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so okay yeahp Oh my gosh. I was buying them all the time. They don't last that long? No. They're so beautiful. are gorgeous. don't have any, but I have looked at them before. Yeah. I'll still whip them out every once in a while, but these ones...
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I will probably have them for another four months before I start running out of them. And I've had them for probably four months. I feel like a good it should last you about, you know, close to a year, nine to 12 months. Yeah.
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Six should last a lot longer. Yeah, yeah exactly. Loved OG, but yeah, man, that stuff runs out fast. Yes. so Okay. Good to know. Maybe you can, hope maybe we'll put that in the show notes. We'll put the blonzer link.
Lessons from Competition Experience
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I swear that's what it's called. And we can put my favorite cover girl mascara in the show notes for you guys too, even though it's at every drugstore around the world. yeah um So like, i just want catch up with you. know I know. just want to like, how are you, Jess?
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I'm pretty good. I'm pretty good. um i competed over the weekend. Tell us about it ah Well, it was such an interesting experience. I let go of my coach two weeks before the show.
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So I ended up having to get myself ready for that show, um which no competitor should ever have to do. That's it's extremely hard to have that objective of a look at yourself and yeah you know try to stay out of your head and um I did it and um it was okay. I didn't place. So this was actually my 10th competition in 10 years and I did not even crack top five, which is crazy because last year i swept a show. I won every single class. I won the master's bikini overall.
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And, um you know, but you have to go into every competition really. really open to like who you we have no idea who's going to show up to the show and what they're going to look like and Um, so I really ah just kind of did it for information too, was kind of always the plan. Cause I was like, well, I know that I want to show and swept a show, but that doesn't mean much because it just depends on who shows up.
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And so I had really wanted to do a more competitive show to see how I stacked, how I truly stacked up because I'm qualified to get on a national stage since I won But again, i was like, I don't feel comfortable doing that because that's a much more competitive stage. And so I was like, I'm going to do a regional show that I know would be a little bit more competitive and see how I stack up and then see kind of what I want to do from there.
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And so I felt like it was a success because I definitely got the information that I needed. I was like, I don't actually stack up to, you know, girls who are able to put on a lot more muscle and like get a lot leaner than I can.
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um i have an amino acid disorder. So ah my body works against me in this sport. In fact, I've had doctors tell me that I shouldn't be able to do this at all, but I do, I can. And like I've won, you know, and I've done really well in the sport. Yeah.
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But I, my body's not like, unless I want to do steroids, which I don't, I love my femininity. I really don't want to go down that road.
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And so I just, um, I felt fine. was just like, I was like, this is great. Like it was such a good weekend. My mom and my sister came. And we did all the fun fall things. And, um you know, it was just fine. Like like i I had no feelings about it. In fact, you know, when you when I was so I'm like, she's going to text me. She's going to want to know how it goes. And I'm going to have to tell her like I didn't place and then she's going to feel bad. so I immediately it was like, I don't have any feelings about it. So I don't want you to have any feelings. That's exactly what you said. Yeah.
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You don't need to have any feelings about it either. Like it was the information I was looking for because there's a new division. Um, so bikini has gotten so out of control, like the muscularity, the conditioning, it's just even a lot of bikini pros, they're moving down to the new division because it's just gotten crazy.
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And, um, and And that's actually the information I was looking for. You know, i was like, how do I actually stack up against other bikini competitors who are, you know, just like, what does that look like? Because do I need to move down divisions? And so that's what I learned is that I need to move down divisions, even though I don't necessarily want to. But the reason that I don't want to is because they don't have the bling on the suits.
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Right. Oh, you can't wear the bling on the suit. Oh, it's hard. Like, and to be honest, like most bikini competitors were like, oh dang it. Because like, man, I love my spark. I just spent so much money on my new suit and they're so beautiful. They're so sparkly. Like it's so fun. But the, the suits for the other division, they have no bling. It's just a bikini. Okay. Yeah.
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um But that's my decision. i just, you know, took a few days to really consider and really think about it and talked to a couple of coaches who they actually brought it up before I even said anything. And I was like, you know what?
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Yeah, I think that I'm going to go ahead and still go do the bigger show. and I'm just going to change divisions. in And and see how that goes i'm really in between the two divisions but like it's still new and so i still think i could kill it because anyways so that's kind of where i've landed is i think i'm going to compete again in four weeks move down divisions okay and i feel really good about that um
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Yeah, it kind of like lights me up a little bit, you know? Yeah. So instead of feeling discouraged, like, oh, I'm never going to be able to be, ah you know, ah like, higher level bikini competitor, but there is a new division that I think I could quickly. Yeah. You after 10 years and like,
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really be able to move up in the sport because now they have made that available to, you know, girls like me who don't want that muscle mass or aren't able to put on that amount of muscle mass, especially when we don't want to do performance enhancing drugs.
00:14:57
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Right. Well, and especially maybe, i don't know, are you going to have a coach going into the next show or no? So I was actually talking to a friend about it this morning, the one who was like, um, have you thought about, you know, and i was like, yes. And so this morning when I was like, yes, I think that's what I want to do I reached out to her and i was like, what role do you think you could play in this with me? So we're in conversation right now about that.
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Okay. Uh, to see if that's something that I, uh, would want to do in like a direction that I would want to go with her. Very cool. I'm always curious how you feel after a show, like how your body feels and how you're, you know, obviously you're in a good, like mental state with things, but yeah. How are you feeling this week?
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Well, I, every competitor wants to eat after a show. And so I feel like garbage actually. So yesterday when you texted me and I'm like, oh my gosh, I'm so sorry. I just woke up.
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It's because my insulin's going crazy because you know, I was, you, you definitely cut a lot of food. Like you're in such a calorie deficit. Like I was doing three hours of cardio to get ready for that show. I wasn't eating any carbs and And so then as soon as the show is done, I'm like starving, i want to eat. And so then all of a sudden I'm eating tons of carbs, tons of fat, tons of sugar, not binging, but I'm just like, oh man, a donut sounds amazing, you know, alongside like my chicken.
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Yeah. And so my body, like nobody's body has a great response to that. It just feels very toxic. And then your insulin's going crazy. And so yesterday I was like having such a hard time staying awake. And I just literally, I'm like, I'm going go lay down just for like 10 minutes.
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And then the next thing I know, two hours goes by and I'm like, oh shoot, I'm behind on everything now. Um, so I don't feel like emotionally, I feel amazing physically. I don't feel great. Um, but last night I went to the grocery store cause that's kind of, you know, like I didn't, I ah had chicken at home and that was really it because that's all that I really had been eating was like chicken and eggs and getting ready for the show for especially the past week. So last night around eight, I'm like, i'm going to go to the grocery store and I'm going to get all my favorite veggies. I can, you know, eat different meats now and I just need to do a good food prep and, and get my meals and everything back in check and, um, you know, just get back to the gym right away and and kind of just go right back to it. So yeah.
00:17:34
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I mean, by tomorrow I'm going to feel amazing, but right now I can still feel just a little bit of that. Like sugar is so toxic. And it's really interesting. I wish people would take it out of their diets for a while so that you know the difference and how that really feels.
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um I don't – sugar is not bad, but ah learning how to just –
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eat it in moderation or like eat a little bit of ah a cleaner, healthier diet and how good you really feel and how good like your energy levels are and your mental clarity. It's crazy when all of a sudden you start eating sugar again and your whole body just feels like toxic is the only way that I can describe it. And then not not only that, but then you just want more of it. Yes, it's extremely addictive, a very slippery slope. I'm like super excited to just, i was I was so grateful to wake up today and be like, okay, we're done with that couple of days, you know, which I think is a good thing to do, ah to just give yourself a break and do that. And then also be reminded that like, oh yeah, that doesn't feel good. you know, I need to get back to more of a place of like,
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Um, not moderation yet for me. I still have, you know, like three and a half weeks before I can get back to moderation, but like, I'm happy to take all of that back out and just feel good.
00:18:59
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Yeah. So some recovery after the show for sure. Definitely. And like very tired. Yeah. Oh yeah. Yeah. yeah yeah I am physically, mentally, like all the things it's like, it requires a lot of you.
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I'm so proud of you. Thank you. So proud of you. I, one of my favorite things about you always is your ability to be very neutral about things and not get swept away by the emotions of it.
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And that's when you, when, you know, I checked in with you after the show to see how it went. And then you sent me that voice note and then i could just hear it in your voice. Just like, And you told me like, i don't have any feelings about it, so you shouldn't either. But I could still tell in your voice that you were just you. Yes, you were very proud of yourself. it was great information.
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it kind of gave you some direction on how you wanted to go, even if you didn't have for sure clarity right at that moment. hmm. And then you're just kind of neutral about it. And that's just something that we can all strive to be better at.
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You know, i get very swept away by emotions one way or the other. And it just is like, you have a very great anchoring system and it's just, I'm always so inspired by it.
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Thank you. You know, the other thing too, is I'm so so, I talked about it on social media. I got on my story and I was like, I'm so happy for those girls though, too, you know, like in no way, shape or form do I feel like the fact that I didn't get, you know, the, one of the top five placings takes away from me, you know, like I was so happy. I've had that experience for 10 years. I always do really well at shows And I know how good that feels and I know how good it feels to win. And
Spiritual Awakenings and Personal Growth
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so i was like, I like that's so cool that they get to experience that tonight because I've experienced that nine times. You know what I mean? So so I thought that that was a really healthy like I was really proud of myself for.
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i stepping off stage and just like clapping for them and watching them get their awards and being like, oh I know how good that feels. And I'm really happy that they get to experience that because I've i've had that for, you know, 10 years and and nine shows. And it's such a great feeling to put in all that work and then get the reward for it. And I and i just didn't feel like...
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Anything was taken from me. I know who I am. Like, I'm a very good competitor. I've been very successful. There was just things going into the show that didn't work out very well for me. And I again, like my physique is just not able to do that at this point. And I'm not willing to take performance enhancing drugs to get there. And that's just it's a hard line for me.
00:21:41
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Yeah. And that, well, and that's why like knowing your values that we talk about all the time, all the time, so, so, so important all the time. It's a decision really easy. It's great information. This was a great experience for you.
00:21:53
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And now you get to decide which way you want to go. while still being anchored into your values. Yes. That's actually a very good point. Yeah. And you know what? I really made that decision when I was backstage that day because i have felt like, oh, would I have an openness to doing that if I needed to yeah But the truth is, as soon as I got backstage, I was like, that would be so dumb. Yeah.
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Like that would be so dumb and like not worth it. It's a, it's potty bill. Like stop. Yes. Right. stop You know, like my life calling is so much bigger and so much more important. and And that's the other reason why I think I'm able to stay very neutral is because, you know, at one point bodybuilding did take over my life. Hmm. And I was ah very obsessed with it. And I would have been devastated, like devastated on Saturday. And it's happened to me before where I was like, oh, i came in third place and now I feel terrible about myself, you know. Yeah.
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But no, I feel so um I don't think balance is the right word. I think that I just know my purpose. I know my calling in life and you know, that sport is a big part of my life, but it just flows with my life.
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It's not my whole life and my worth, my self-esteem, like my, feelings about myself have like, there's zero tie to that.
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In fact, I remember, so in 2018, I actually gained 40 pounds after a show. And that was when I was able to let go of a lot of that because i was like, oh people don't know the difference and they love me. And my value doesn't change based on that sport or like how I, how I look or,
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Do you know what I mean? was able to just be like, oh, um well, that has nothing to do with anything because now I'm 40 pounds heavier and and I'm like excelling in work, excelling in my career.
00:23:57
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And so that was actually one of the best experiences for me was to go through a health crisis and after competing and put on that weight to be like, oh, well, um it made no difference in how anybody perceived or felt about me or the value that I'm putting out there.
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no And so ever since then, like I just have no, even when I won, i was like, oh my gosh, that's amazing. Like I just swept a show and that's like such a huge accomplishment after everything I've been through, and especially because doctors are like, you shouldn't be able to do this, you know? And, but I still was like, that's so cool. And then the next day I just like moved on.
00:24:33
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Yes. And kind of back to normal. Yeah, I was like, cool. Time to go on some hikes. Well, and I think that's also part of like from our conversation we had yesterday with one of our coaching clients of just um the spiritual side of things and being able to put yourself, like take yourself out of the things that you're going through, whether it's in your business or your personal life. And it's just like, it's so much bigger than ourselves. Right. And having purpose. at
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And I don't know, do you want to go here yet? I'm so I'm ready. And I know you're ready go to like, And yesterday we were on a coaching call, you guys, with a dear friend that we've been working with for years. Yeah.
00:25:21
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At this point. And um she she's in the midst of a spiritual awakening. And she was like, I don't know if this is ah appropriate to like whatever. But she's like, I know that you guys know something that I don't know. Tell me what to do. Tell me what books to read.
00:25:37
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You know, this is what's going on with me. And we just got into this conversation with her that I think both of us...
00:25:46
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loved I haven't stopped thinking about it conversations all the time but to have somebody you know come to us and be like I know that you guys know something that I don't know and to just get to share that part of ourselves with with somebody you know I think that we share bits and pieces here and there and and whatever, and we do, like, it is kind of a value of our, and like one we even ask that in our um workbooks. We're like, where are you at spiritually? you know, because like how, where are you at? So that we kind of know how to navigate some of the things that we like talk about and where your openness is to it. But yesterday, like we really got into it and, and I loved it. So tell me your thoughts and feelings and some of the things about the conversation that really,
00:26:36
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just stood out to you or, you know, just, yeah. What are you, where are you at with it? Well, I think I haven't been able to stop thinking about it, to be quite honest. It's been just like very um heavy, but in a good heavy on my mind since we had that conversation yesterday.
00:26:52
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And it's had me thinking on, you know, when you when we were talking with her and you said, you know, I feel like the feminine is rising and I feel like we are having this spiritual awakening on, you know, in our realm on earth anyways. And we it's been happening for a while now and that it comes in waves.
00:27:11
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And that's really the part that I've just kind of been stuck on because you know, my own spiritual awakening happened 2022. So been like three years so it's been like three years ago and all of the research I've done and all of the, you know, the kind of information that I have been taking in around spiritual awakenings and around the rise of the feminine and that we, you know, are here in purpose and we're warriors and all of these things is it does come in waves. And so where we were having this like conversation with this client of ours yesterday and where it's just now happening for her and I can guarantee she's not alone. in this at all. And I don't know like what the cosmic shifts are that cause these waves.
00:27:59
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I just think it's so, so cool. And she even said, she's like, you know, i wasn't good because so I told her, I was like, thank you so much for like saying something. Cause she said several times, she's like, I don't think this relates to business at all.
00:28:10
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But, and we're like, okay. so connected. It's actually more deeply connected than we probably give it credit for. And you and I do deeply believe that it's connected.
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And so, um, and she was like, I, you know, I wasn't going to say anything, but I'm so glad that I did. And it's just really, really cool. It was just a really cool experience. Like you said, for us to be like a safe space for her to come to and ask those questions and for us to have just a little bit more, to be a little bit, a tiny bit ahead from where she's at so we can be light leaders for her, right? And for anyone else, you know, I think whoever is tuning into this particular episode right now and listening to our conversation
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you are meant to hear it. If you're listening right now, I just want you to know that you're hearing this for a reason. You're hearing this particular conversation for a reason. It's not by chance. It's it's a very meant to be. And I just deeply believe in this conversation.
00:29:13
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divine energy that flows through us and we are all divine energies. And, um, yeah, that's kind of just where, where I'm at with things. And that conversation yesterday, those types of conversations so always, always, always sparks my own spirituality.
00:29:30
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Like I was at the gym yesterday and I, it's interestingly enough, like music is always such a powerful energy for me. We'll call it energy.
00:29:41
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Always like i lean into music. Music is healing. i need music in my life, but the last few weeks I cannot find much music aside, which I know just isn't going to agree with me on this aside from the new Taylor Swift album.
00:29:54
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That's been very empowering for me on a different level. But aside from that, like music is just kind of falling on deaf ears for me lately. and So I was doing my workout at the gym and I was like, I feel like I've heard it all.
00:30:06
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I'm already been through Taylor Swift's new album like a hundred times. I'm already kind of like over those, not over them, but I just like, you know, they've been on repeat. And it just wasn't hitting me. And then I finally got on the treadmill to do my walk. And I'm like, you know what? I'm going to put out, pull up a podcast. I got on Apple podcasts and I got on, um, Jenna Zoe's the human design podcast. And I listened to one of hers. And then I also listened to Jessica's likes one of her latest podcasts and it was so needed. And I think that That has been a sign for me that I've been ignoring, like music hasn't been doing it for me, that I've needed to shift my energy and what I'm consuming into something else.
00:30:46
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And that conversation with yesterday that we had with our coaching client really did that. And so I'm so grateful for that because, you know, sometimes I'm just kind of, um, stubborn and a little bit ignorant to signs and energy that are trying to tell me something does that makes sense.
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Of course. Absolutely. Absolutely.
00:31:06
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Oh, man. Yeah. I don't even know where to like start with this conversation, but I do hope that everybody knows that we are a safe space to talk about anything and everything.
00:31:21
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Having a spiritual awakening, tiff if you had to define what that is, like what would you say? like What was it for you?
00:31:34
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Um, I mean, there were some key things that happened in my life that prompted my spiritual awakening, but if i had to like define it overall, it was deeply,
00:31:47
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Obviously was deeply healing. I had a lot of trauma that was coming up in my life and that's what was leading me to, um like I randomly booked a foot zone appointment and that's what like was the tipping scale for my spiritual awakening. And then I ended up signing up for this, um,
00:32:05
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women's retreat, the 70 river trip. And so there were just certain things in my life. I went to Vegas for the first time with girlfriends and did a Vegas trip all like within like two months of each other.
00:32:18
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But if I had to describe it, the spiritual awakening as a whole, it was like jumping off a cliff with no wings and free falling For a while, it was very hard. It was very beautiful.
00:32:31
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It was very freeing because I think because I had all this trauma that I'd been carrying all my life and I'd been trying to keep it tampered down and like ignoring it and not letting it come to the surface, like, nope, that's going to go away someday. it definitely wasn't.
00:32:46
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Finally bubbled over to the surface. Like it was so freeing, hard, really emotional, really beautiful, amazing things happened throughout And I like looking back at like, yes, it was over the course of like, I'm probably still in a spiritual awakening if I'm really honest with myself, but it was like that summer, the summer of 2022, so many things happened in my life and just rapid fire things but it felt like I was like free falling all summer long.
00:33:16
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And then i think I like grew wings in the process. Does that make sense? And then like, I learned to fly and now I just feel like I am like this, like, I don't know this flying free bird or don't spirit or soul that is like less attached.
00:33:37
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to things and can like love so much deeper and, amm so much lighter, like in many senses, I'm a lighter person. i think my, my personal light is brighter.
00:33:51
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um and it's just like, it shifted things for me and my marriage, for me and my personal life, for me as a mom, for me as a business owner, it shifted everything. And so, yeah I mean, that's not really very concrete. It's not a very concrete answer of what it was, but it's really hard to put it into words.
00:34:10
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Well, I think the concrete answer is that you. it for you, it was a healing journey. it was like all of this trauma came up suddenly.
00:34:22
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And then you went on the healing journey from that. And that sparked your spiritual awakening because then you realize that you're not your trauma, you know, and then you start to work through that and solve that. And because I've been through that recently, it it's a, it is a feeling of freedom.
00:34:41
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to unattach yourself from that and to heal that and to be able to see. Yes. You kind of unravel yourself from it. Yes. From all of these emotions, all of this conditioning, this trauma, this, and we all carry trauma, like all of us do, right?
00:34:57
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Whether we really realize it or not, but you can unravel yourself from it and you can anchor into something bigger than yourself. And it doesn't feel so lonely. And I've always like, I've always been a spiritual person, even from when I was a kid, like, um you know, ah we grew up and we weren't super religious, but like,
00:35:16
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God was topic of conversation in our house, but we didn't really go to church. And then when I was a teenager and I really rooted into my friend group, more so like junior high turning into a teenager, i got this group of friends that were very religious. And then, um you know, that kind of took me onto that spiritual,
00:35:35
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path And so then I started going to church and I, um, you know, reading the Bible and my scriptures and that, and then my family and kind of got my family involved and my mom and my siblings and stuff.
00:35:48
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And then, um, so there's been like lots of conditioning along the way. and at the same time, I've always had this spiritual soul, I would call it. I think it didn't happen. And then, you know, and then I grew up, I was in my twenties. I went to aesthetic school. I started building my business. I got married. i had kids and that was always just like in the background for me, like my relationship with God and my spiritual relationship, I stopped praying.
00:36:16
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And that was just kind of something that was just always like there. And I was just kind of like, I'll get to you someday. And I had a lot of guilt around that too, because I knew I wasn't being like my best self in with that relationship.
00:36:30
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And then it wasn't until my spiritual awakening that I was able to unravel all of these things and like remove myself from being so unwrapped in it and so confused in it And, ah and I went to there, I started going to therapy in this whole spiritual awakening too.
00:36:48
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And then i like came back to myself and I came back so much deeper in my spirituality, but it was so much bigger than it had ever been in my life. And then, and it still continues to grow. Like I, I'm just like, ah kind of an awe all the time about how.
00:37:07
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It's just this ever evolving. It feels like this ever growing entity that, that I'm not even tapping into fully. i think if that makes sense. And sometimes I have to remind myself, like I have access to so much freaking power that I'm barely even touching the surface on what I'm doing.
00:37:29
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Well, I think that's why you're never done with a spiritual awakening. i think it's going to happen for the rest of your life. Like once it's sparked, it doesn't stop either.
00:37:40
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One question I have for you, um and i I want to ask more people this question in these types of conversations. Do you find that after you went through a spiritual awakening, you are so much more connected to the purity and the wonder of your younger self?
00:38:02
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Yes. I mean, because we talk about, you and I talk a lot about inner child work and that's not what I'm talking about. I'm talking about the non-trauma, like the things that you loved to do when you were little. Do you find yourself kind of gravitating and connecting to that and like...
00:38:22
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See, it's almost like it's almost like when we're little, you know, there's this like wonder and this innocence and we're drawn to these things. But then like you're saying, you kind of just get conditioned and then, you know, school and marriage and this and that and work and business.
00:38:40
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And we fall away from a lot of that. And then when you go through a spiritual awakening, somehow you then go, it's like you go back and you reconnect with that part of yourself, which I think the magic number is seven, if I remember correctly. It's like your six, seven-year-old self that sometimes, and i I think this is fairly normal that you go through a spiritual awakening and all of a sudden there's just this like connection to that relationship.
00:39:11
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age range of you. It's so funny. You bring this up. I was literally yesterday after I got done with my workout and after I'd listened to actually those podcasts and I was just like, you know, I was thinking of my younger self, but not in the way of like, you know, your inner child who needs your not that.
00:39:28
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And I was thinking about my younger self and I was thinking of this particular instance when somebody asked me what I wanted to be when I grew up and I, I was in elementary school, so i was probably like third grade. So probably like eight or nine.
00:39:41
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And I remember telling them that I wanted to be famous and I wanted to be like a movie star or a singer. And they were like, well, we'll do you sing? And I'm like, and then I like felt self-conscious and cause I'm not a great singer.
00:39:54
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and then, um, but i just remember just being so excited to grow up and be famous in some aspect. And then I was like laughing to myself. I'm like, and I still do want that yeah in a different way. I'm not a singer. I don't want to be a movie star, but I was thinking about you and I in this podcast and with our coaching and what I want to do with my skincare business. And I just,
00:40:19
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And like, I want it to be so big because I want to help so many people. I want to serve women, you know, through skincare and self care care practices. I want to grow my team so that they can serve women. Like I want to extend my reach so far around this world.
00:40:36
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And then that like connected back to like, you know, being like that well-known person in this industry. And it just was like this very full circle moment. And i was kind of just laughing to myself about it.
00:40:48
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And I think that's what you mean, yeah right? And again, you and I have talked about kind of like, I loved to color as a kid, loved it. And I have found so much joy the last couple years in sitting down and coloring. And like yeah I
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have some adult color books.
00:41:04
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Oh my gosh. Tip same. for Christmas. And getting like some fun markers. Yes. Yes. That's all like I wanted for Christmas. The guy that I was dating, he got me all these color books, like huge packet of colored pencils and sharpeners and like the whole nine yards. Because was like, I love to color.
00:41:24
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I didn't know that you, okay. I won a coloring contest when I was young and I i had my picture in the newspaper. That's how much I loved it. And so I will like, you know, sitting down in like Playing with my kids is always hard because I'm like always like my brain is like I have things to do. But that's one thing I really enjoy sitting down and doing with my kids is coloring and we like enjoy it together.
00:41:48
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And I can like tap back into my younger self. And it was like so joyful and soothing. And I just love it so much. So I love that question. Yeah.
00:42:01
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Yeah, it's something that I definitely noticed about myself too. My spiritual awakening was in 2020. i don't know how deep we want to get into that because it was like such a weird experience that happened to me that i i basically ah woke up a completely different person after this incident that had happened to me. But the first thing that I started to notice is my reconnection back to my younger self and my obsession with nature and with trees, it was really the first thing that started happening to me. And i started remembering that this was not abnormal for me. i had just forgotten that I'm obsessed with nature and with trees.
00:42:43
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And I have like this weird relationship with trees, but that started when I was like six or seven you know, and then somewhere along the way, like you were saying earlier, these things just sort of disappear, you know, and you just get really caught up in life and I remember really probably the week after my spiritual awakening, I was out on a hike and I started talking to the plants and to the trees and hugging the trees. And that's when I was like, wait a second.
00:43:12
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I used to do this when I was little. This isn't new for me to have these feelings and to like believe so deeply in magic and connection.
00:43:24
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And I just started remembering these weird incidents and ah you know, from when I was really little and I'm like, this is actually who I've always been. ah just forgot, you know?
00:43:36
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So it felt right. And it didn't feel weird. No, it didn't. No. And I think that was the best part of my spiritual awakening is that it wasn't, um,
00:43:48
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It didn't feel weird. It didn't feel weird. It felt beautiful. And that's kind of what I was talking about yesterday like, like it makes easier. it makes life easier Oh my gosh. like and I think that that's kind of that the unattached thing that you and I both have because we've both been there. i'm like, I'm really not attached to any outcomes to anything because I feel pretty like surrendered and I have a lot of trust and I just believe that we're dreaming and this dream can be whatever we want it to be. We're like co-creators of the dream. But I think when you can
00:44:29
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Just realize, like you were saying earlier, your divine light, that is truly what is inside of you. and And I feel like we're avatars pretending, like we're pretending to be Tiffany and Jessica.
00:44:42
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you know But there's a huge reason why we're doing that. There's a big purpose behind that. you know And when you can see life from that perspective, it just makes things feel lighter and freer and easier.
00:44:58
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And, you know, one thing that I was um talking about yesterday, too, is just learning to see things from the human perspective and the soul perspective. Yes.
00:45:08
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When we go through anything, you know, and how helpful that is. Yes. I really, really liked that aspect when you brought that up in the conversation yesterday. So can you touch on that a little bit more?
00:45:22
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Yeah. You know, I just feel like, um, because to me, these are two separate things. There's the avatar human part of you, and we have to stay anchored into our humanness because that's what we're here to do.
00:45:36
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So as much as sometimes when you go through a spiritual awakening, there's a phase that you, you can go through where you're, Some people get very apathetic. They're like, oh, well, nothing is real anyways. And, you know, and it you can kind of lose your zest for life. But I think and I went through a period of that, too, where I was just questioning. I'm like, well, if none of this is really as real as we think it is.
00:45:59
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you know, then what is the the point? And, you know, nothing would really matter and whatever. But the truth is that we are here to have a human experience. And that was a huge decision that we made before we came here.
00:46:11
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And so you really want to stay anchored into that. And the easiest way to do that is to start seeing things separately. You're like, this is the human experience of this situation, but then here's the soul experience of this situation.
00:46:27
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And it helps you stay really anchored into this human experience and making the most of it. But it also helps you stay unattached and kind of like...
00:46:41
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Having a higher perspective of all situations is probably the better way to put that. So you have a human perspective and then you just have your higher soul perspective of what's really happening where you're seeing things as a much bigger picture.
00:46:59
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basically from like your soul perspective from an infinite divine perspective. And i think it makes hard things a lot easier. In fact, I had a therapy yesterday and luckily my therapist is a monk.
00:47:15
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but Like, literally, course you would have a monk therapist. How we came together was just so divine and he is so good with me.
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And, um, and so when, when we're having therapy together, like that's literally how I talk. I'm like, well, here's, you know, how I'm perceiving this situation. Like here's the human perspective. And,
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the inner child work and the trauma perspective of this situation. And then, you know, but here on a soul perspective, like this is how, you know, I'm perceiving this and it it does make it a lot lighter and easier. you know, it's like less painful because you become unattached to the pain. You're like, it exists and I can experience it. And I know that it's there.
00:47:59
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And there is this other higher perspective of the situation as well, which is always you guys, like we're here to grow and to evolve. And I believe highly soul contracts.
00:48:15
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I was just thinking of I'm so glad you went there. oh my gosh. Bring soul contracts up. Well, even yesterday, like one of the conversations that we were having was about an employee that she needed to let go of. And i was like, well, but so then once we got on the, we had the whole human business conversation about that and here's how you go about it and this and that.
00:48:37
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But then once we started ah along the spiritual road, I was like, you have a soul contract with this person. And if you can see it from that perspective, also, it is going to make this a lot easier to just trust that,
00:48:49
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This was all divinely created and something that you guys agreed upon together, you know, before you came here, this was just kind of written and it's for both of your higher good for reasons that we just don't always understand, you know? And so there's all situations, like all of our encounters, all of our relationships,
00:49:10
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No matter the level of relationship that it is, like these are contracted. i mean, everybody that you meet, everybody that you touch, everybody that you are in any sort of relationship with, like this is written in the stars. You guys agreed to this.
00:49:28
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together I think you're probably one of my number one soul contracts on like a higher level. There's weird things about Tiffany and I that would just blow your guys' minds.
00:49:41
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In fact, I told Tyra about Gemma finding my necklace in the parking lot that morning and she was like, that's not real. I'm like, no, it happens like yeah happened. happened.
00:49:52
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So there's soul contracts that are like huge contracts. Yes. andy And I have a huge soul contract, you guys. Like there's no, there's no denying it. There's no question about it um But then there's other, you know, smaller soul contracts. Like I just went through a weird relationship. It was like, it came and went so fast and I, so I'm so still like struggling with the whole thing.
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But when I look at it from the human perspective, I'm like, that was amazing what I learned in such a short amount of time. Like, yeah holy cow, thank you. You know, like I have so much gratitude for this situation because I'm like, wow, that served an amazing purpose, you know?
00:50:37
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And then there's soul contracts like when you have to let somebody... go in your business. But yeah if you can look at that from like a higher perspective, it just makes all of your relationships, all of your interactions feel better, even when they're bad. Yeah. Even when it's hard and because you can put yourself behind it.
00:50:58
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And we've been talking about this a lot. You have, you're in this situation and it's hard and you have to make a decision. You have to have a hard conversation. You have to be the human, be human But when you can take yourself out of this situation and just look at it from behind, put yourself in space and look at your tiny little self on this floating rock spinning around the sun, you know, and look at it from that perspective and really, truly trust that, you know, you're, you have this soul contract. You guys agree. Your souls agree to it.
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prior to even coming to this earth and like everybody was on board with it. Everyone agreed to it. Everybody was super excited about how this was going and what your purpose in it was like collectively together.
00:51:44
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And then you're like, okay, yes, this is hard. I do still have to be human. i do still have to have this kind of hard conversation and make this hard decision. And I might not feel great about it. And I can trust that it's the best for both of us because we agree to it We're both on the same team. We're both on the same page.
00:52:03
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We're just, you know, you, so you, if you kind of put yourself in both of those boxes, it does make it so much easier. And I want to add to this conversation. it is so, so, so, so important to have a bigger purpose at play for yourself, for your business, for your career, for your family. Like if you're just still very in it and you haven't really figured out your why and you really don't have like a deeper purpose, it makes it that much harder. And so I think going through a spiritual awakening for me helped me really, really figure out my purpose in all of this.
00:52:42
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you know, well, I'm glad that you said that because I did want to touch on that. That just came to me probably at the same time that it came to you. Um, because that is the question. So you had reached out to me probably two months ago now, and someone had DM to you and they're like, how do I find my purpose? Cause this is something that we talk about all the time.
00:53:02
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And you're like, we should do an episode about how to find your purpose. I don't know how to help somebody find their purpose. And I also don't want anybody to think that you have to have a spiritual awakening to find your purpose. right You know, I think that, um, there's a part of me that thinks that everybody does know what their purpose is though. Yeah.
00:53:22
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I agree. think it's just layered. I think it's yeah forgotten. Like we talked about yesterday. There's so many things from even before we came here in this earthly body that we've just forgotten. And we've talked a little bit about the veil and I, I, everyone has a purpose or else you wouldn't be here on this earth. Yeah. There's no way dude the chances of you being here are like insane. It is insane.
00:53:46
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insane that we are all here in fact you know what when we were talking with her yesterday I wrote something down freaking where is it
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ah wrote down I'm still here in the game today
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Because if you look at life like a dream or like a game, I literally look at life like a video game. That's kind of an analogy that use that has served me extremely well, especially since my spiritual awakening.
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Every day that I wake up, I literally am like, hey, I am still, I'm still here. I'm still a player in this game. And did you know 150,000 wake up every day and they're not?
00:54:29
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wow a player in the game anymore. Their game is over. And, and so I, I really like to wake up very intentionally, like, shit, man, I'm still, I'm still here. Like I'm still in the game today. And there's a reason that I'm still in the game today.
00:54:46
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And what is that reason, you know, today and on a larger scale, what is that reason that like, I'm still player number one in the game? Because you used still have a purpose to fulfill. Yeah. We've still got the purpose to fulfill.
00:55:02
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I think going back to your question on how to help somebody find their purpose and discover their why it is there, it's instilled in them. I think everybody knows. I think there's layers that we have to shed. certain the and it's And again, it's not just a spiritual awakening. That's not the only avenue to it. I think my best advice for somebody who is like wanting to discover that for themselves is personal development.
00:55:27
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ah is starting there is so work on yourself. You are your most amazing, important, number one job, valuable thing that you should be pouring into every single day is you.
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you are player number one. This is your game. This is your game. This is your video game. You are behind the controller. However you want to look at it you are running the show of your life and there's a lot of accountability there. There's a lot riding on your shoulders and it's amazing because you're the authority in this. You get to decide how you want your life to look and be and feel and which way you want to grow. And it's actually really, really amazing. And it comes back to how powerful we are.
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But I would encourage you if you're in that space of like, you know, i don't really know my purpose. I don't really know which way I want to go. Start with personal development.
00:56:27
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Start working on yourself. And just, and there's a million different resources out there. But when you
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consciously make the decision to be like, I want to better myself, opportunities and resources will start coming your way. Promise you they will.
00:56:45
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Well, and i think too, once you get started on the self-development, personal development path, a lot of the spirituality will just come alongside of it. You know, i i honestly think it's unavoidable once you get so far on that path, especially if you start doing like healing work. Because to me, and you can tell me what you think about this. I'm like, there's there's personal development, there's healing, healing.
00:57:11
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And then there's spiritual development and spirituality. And I think that once you start on the personal development train, all those other things, and it doesn't happen quick. I mean, it's taken me years for all of these to unfold, but I think they do. And so I think you're right. That's like your first step.
00:57:32
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And then you can kind of just trust that with time, you know, probably years, the other things are... just going to happen naturally. Yeah. Yeah.
00:57:43
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Yeah. Cause for me, like, um, you know, I, I started into the spiritual thing and then a lot of the personal but development followed that, you know, I met my personal coach and started working with her who I still work with. I started going to therapy.
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And then this year in 2025, I started like my physical development. I've always like done a physical aspect, but I haven't been super intentional with it. And so this physical development has unlocked even deeper purpose for me and a deeper level of spirituality and a deeper like anchor system, like just a whole nother like level that I didn't even know was under there. It's unlocked for me.
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And so it's like, it's not one all be all. I think you're right. I think it can take years. It's probably our whole life actually. And I think that's how it should be. I don't think we ever want to get to a place where we feel like we've made it or stagnant or complacent.
00:58:38
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Um, and we want to continually be Work on ourselves and our purpose. I agree. Well, and I, I'm thinking back to like you and i I, think have both known for years, even before we had a spiritual awakening that, I mean, apparently it started when we were little, you know, that, yeah.
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ah But I knew that I needed to start coaching and start a podcast for like nine years before I finally pulled the trigger. so it's not as if all of a sudden we had a spiritual awakening and then here comes the podcast and the coaching. These were things that I think we knew A long time before we actually did it. For me, it was losing my brother.
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i I was like, oh, i don't have all the time in the world. You know, that like mortality motivation. i'm like, okay, no, I've got to do this now sort of a thing.
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But it was always really there. two And so, but I do think, you know, once you do the personal development and you kind of work on the the spiritual things and the physical things and all of that, it just unravels because those are the layers that you, it's like an onion, you know, and you just have to kind of keep pulling it back.
00:59:52
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But I think sometimes too, like your purpose can kind of change and well, not change necessarily, but like it evolves because even for Tiffany and I over the last couple of years of doing this, it it just keeps kind of getting bigger and bigger.
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Yes. Yeah. Cause like, you know, i think of when I launched sweet cheeks university and it was like, I was making swag for estheticians, like, you know, sweatshirts and bags for estheticians. And I couldn't really put a name on what I was doing. I didn't really have a great understanding, but I knew, i knew that the space was needed and i knew that I didn't know how it was going to grow or evolve.
01:00:32
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I yeah actually had zero idea it would lead to coaching and this, even though, my intuition deep down, I think like you're saying, i it's always been there. Right.
01:00:43
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But I like also didn't expect the podcast to like go in the direction that it has and becomes so valuable and big. And I'm so grateful for it. And I think that's, what's really cool is you and I are so flexible on, we're on the, on the plan, right? We have a why we know what our purpose is and we're like very flexible on how to get there.
01:01:08
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Absolutely. And just being willing to, and we say this all the time, just do it. Like just take the first step and take the messy action because you know, like the purpose is there, even if you don't understand, you know, and it, and then it just evolves. But the nice thing about being anchored into like your purpose is that you are more easily able to recognize answers as they appear.
01:01:35
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okay You know, the way the way just kind of gets laid out for you and it resonates with you and then you just kind of know, like, oh, this is going to be the way forward or, you know, the validation too. You know, when you're really in your purpose, you will get so much validation.
01:01:57
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I'm still so like knocked off my feet every day. I feel like there's validation for both of us confirmation that we are on the right path. Yeah. That the work we're doing is real and so needed. And we're just like answering prayers and not to like, I'm not putting us on a pedestal.
01:02:15
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By saying that I'm just so anchored into what we are doing is truth and it's light and it's like and needed. So needed. It's God's work. And we're like, get to be vessels for that. And I'm so, yeah so grateful.
01:02:29
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And it's just like a pinch me moment. And I get to like live this dream that I had on my heart that I didn't even like know fully what that was going to look like. Totally. you know So, you know, that's a really good point that I actually want to visit is just being a vessel. You know, I think that actually with your purpose, that is something to consider is to just say, hey, you know what universe, God, you know, whatever higher power use me for good. Use me to help people and get your message across in whatever way i need to do that.
01:03:06
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You know, whatever that looks like for me and surrender to that. And your purpose will probably start to flow just from you being like, Hey, you know what I'm here to do I'm here for a bigger purpose. And even if I don't fully understand what that is, I'm going to leave it up to you and just let you know that I'm open to it.
01:03:27
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yeah Does that make sense? Yeah. I think we you and I both do consider ourselves just vessels for whatever whatever is going on in our industry right now.
01:03:41
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Like this change and this involvement in the industry, we're like, use us to get it there wherever you want it to be. You know, like whatever guests we need to have on, yeah whatever podcast episodes we need to do.
01:03:54
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whatever needs to come up in our coaching sessions. Like you just use us to, you know, like let that flow through us into everybody that we work with in our coaching, everybody who listens to the podcast, like everybody who we touch throughout the day, you do your thing.
01:04:14
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Yeah. And it It is very connected to personal development because i for me personally, that Tiffany five years ago wouldn't be as open of a vessel for the types of things that flow through right now, you know, because of, I think where I'm at with my health and my nutrition and my physical side and the things that I consume and, um my mindset. And so it is like all connected. Does that make sense? What I'm trying to say? Mm-hmm. Very much.
01:04:49
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Why like your personal development and your physical development and your spiritual development and your professional development, like they're all connected. There's like four quadrants, right. Are really, really important so that you can be as open of a vessel as possible, you know, cause when we're like, can so even say like social media, for instance, when we're just like doom scrolling and consuming and just taking in all of this energy that isn't ours and then gets stuck to us.
01:05:14
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And then those are blockages, right? Well, so that's another really good point, actually. So I think what you're really getting at is that doing the personal development and the healing work it actually does also release a lot of those blockages, you know, so, so your purpose, you guys is to give back your purpose is that your life has nothing to do with you. Like, yes, your player one, but your player want to help all of the other players, you know, you are like literally a hero for everybody else. And,
01:05:44
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um I was listening to Neil Donald Walsh last night. Actually, I'm trying to get my YouTube. I'm working on my YouTube algorithm. And so I was just typing in people that I'm like, this is who i you know want you to be pulling up so that I can listen to every night before bed because that's how I fall asleep. And so I landed on Neil Donald Walsh and was listening to some of his interviews. And he was like, hey, yo, your life has nothing to do with you. Yeah.
01:06:11
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And I'm like, oh man, sometimes we forget that, right? so when i So when we're talking about purpose, I think that that's another really important fact is that your purpose isn't about you. Your purpose is about helping other people and serving other people. And what gifts do you have to give back to the world?
01:06:28
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Because I truly believe, and this is like another thing that we were talking about yesterday, nobody's going to judge us when we pass. And the more that you get into spirituality and have a spiritual awakening and you learn that shame and judgment is such a horrible human construct that isn't real.
01:06:47
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When we get to the other side, it's going to be us. re-watching our life and really getting a sense of how what we did affected other people.
01:07:00
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yeah And we're going to have feelings about that because there's going to be a lot of bad and there's going to be a lot of good. And so I think about that all the time. And I think,
01:07:11
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And so that's i'm saying your life has nothing to do with you. You know, it's because we're really here to help other people and to give back through the gifts that we have. um and And so your purpose isn't about you.
01:07:25
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It's so much bigger. That's really beautiful. The way you describe that is like when we get to the other side and like rewatching our life experience and how we affected other people and, and like, you know, judgment and shame and guilt, they're just a self-reflection. Right.
01:07:43
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And again, it's going back into that human body experience. Like when you're having those feelings come up, it's really just our own self-reflection. It's like we're in the mirror and those feelings are getting bounced back right onto us.
01:07:55
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yeah So when we feel like we're like being judged by other people, that's actually not true. It's really just our own feelings coming up for us. But then when we can get into that spiritual box or whatever we want to call it and really kind of like put yourself in that experience maybe and And think about if you died today and you were on the other side of the veil and you were rewatching your life, how much impact did you make? How many people did you help affect and make their lives better? And, you know, like kind of play that through in your mind, like a movie. How would you feel right now?
01:08:32
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If you are doing that right now, like, you know, and it does help you just like figure out like, okay, I, maybe I do have some changes to make. Maybe like, I don't want to die today and I don't want it to end right now. I've got a lot of work to do that.
01:08:46
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Let that be your guide. Let that be your light for really discovering your bigger purpose.
01:08:55
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Yeah. It's really beautiful. It's yeah. Yeah.
01:09:06
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I'm so grateful. me too. I'm so grateful. i was actually saying my prayers this morning. i mean, I like, I'll say my prayers every morning and every night, but then,
01:09:16
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um I usually will say a prayer before we record our podcast. And that was part of my prayer is to just be a vessel and to be like whatever needs to come through to come through. and I think for me, a lot of it is trusting the messaging and the downloads because I sometimes, especially when I'm not in the right head space or what I feel scattered and chaotic,
01:09:43
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I'll discredit a lot of things that my intuition tells me and I'll be like, Oh, you know, like something will come through and be like, Oh, that's a really great idea. And then I'll like overthink it. And then I'll be like, Oh no, it's actually not a great idea nobody wants to hear it. Or I'll just like dim the light of it.
01:10:01
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And so that's something that I'm really trying to work on is when something comes through that I know my mind didn't create, you know, it's kind of like an out of the blue, like image or thought or whatever it is, I'm like, there's a reason it came through.
01:10:19
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so I'll try and write it down or I'll send myself a voice note so that I can remember it when I do have the time to like attend to it, but especially like when you and I are recording on this podcast and on this platform and having this conversation, there's a lot that, you know, i feel like sometimes my throat chakra gets blocked because I overthink it. And because uh,
01:10:43
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just discredit the information that comes through. So to go back to my prayer this morning, i really just prayed for like what needs to come through. Help me be open. Help me have the voice to say it.
01:10:55
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Help me listen to those downloads and that intuition and trust it and just share it freely without feeling. And again, it's probably my own judgment that gets in the way.
01:11:06
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Yeah. Yeah. know Can we just talk about intuition for a little bit? Yes, I would love to. I think both of us are highly intuitive, but I think even when you are intuitive, it is still really easy to...
01:11:20
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like you're saying, just discredit or, you know, not say what you maybe want to say. There's a really good book that I read for anybody who wants help um cultivating your own intuition. And it's literally called Radical Intuition.
01:11:36
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And it's a it's a very good book. And it also gives you these just like little practices that you can try to develop your intuition. But that's actually been on my mind a lot because I had that conversation with my therapist yesterday because I i let somebody influence my peaking process into that show when I already intuitively knew exactly what needed to happen.
01:12:02
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And I went against it. And he was like, why did you do that? You know, like, we need to look at this. Why did you allow that to happen? and You know better. and um And I was like, wow, why am I not listening to my intuition already?
01:12:17
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more And I'm like thinking back on all these situations where I'm like, oh gosh, i knew this, you know, but I'm still like not anchoring into it how I normally would. So what is my deal with my intuition?
01:12:30
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And what kept coming to me is that it's a practice. I feel like, well, and actually who we were speaking to yesterday, she was like, your body knows the answers. And she was telling us about a friend who she had just given this person a facial.
01:12:46
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And she had recommended a certain product, but this person went to the retail area and she used her hands to read the energy of the product. And she grabbed the product that her intuition and her body told her she needed. And our friend was like, that's not what I recommended. and the woman was like, yes, but this is what I need. and And proceeded to have this conversation with her about intuition and about using your body for, you know, getting the answers that you need.
01:13:13
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um And that is just what I kept coming back to is that I think it's something we have to work on every day. i think it's something that you can grow your intuition with practice and that sometimes it's one of those things where we can be really good at it.
01:13:32
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I'm one of the most intuitive people I've ever met. Yet at the same time, i will go through phases where I'm not listening to my intuition and I'm letting myself be influenced or, you know, just like you, you're like, I'm going through this phase where maybe I'm just not listening to myself as much as I normally would.
01:13:50
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so I do think it has to be kind of a daily practice. And that is actually what I love about that book is that there are just these little practices that we can try to um We can try and see which ones we want to practice on a more regular basis, whether or not that's something that you're adding into like your nightly routine or somehow throughout the day or in the morning. but I think that navigating life intuitively very feminine, but that is literally how I got to where I am today. I've done the craziest things to be in the position I am solely just based on intuition.
01:14:34
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I mean, I've done things that I don't think anybody else would ever have the audacity to do because I was like, oh, sorry, but this is just like what my heart's telling me to to do. Like, I know this to be true and I don't know why.
01:14:47
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you know i couldn't tell you why, but I just know that this is like the answer. This is what I'm supposed to be doing. And yeah. And it's worked really well for me, but I do, I wish more people ah could anchor into their their intuition and be guided by that just a little bit more. So I do highly recommend that book.
01:15:08
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And I do also think that it is something that we have to practice every day. But I sure think it makes life easier. Yeah, we have our it's our it's our own internal guidance system. It's our own map and steering wheel and blueprint for our life. And I think it's really built into us and into our soul and our spirit. And that's why. um you know why sometimes you're just like your gut is telling you and you can't ignore it and you can't explain why. What's hard about intuition is usually it goes and like, I won't say against the grain, that's not right, but usually it's,
01:15:44
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It can be a lonely road. You know, you have all of this outside noise saying, well, this is the way, but your intuition is saying, well, actually my gut is telling me to go over here, but everybody else is like, what are you doing? Like, this is the clear way. yeah Here's all those street signs. Here's everybody has done it this way before you've got a roadmap over here and your intuition is telling you to like take off into the wilderness with no trail head, map, you know, no lights.
01:16:12
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And you're just like, I don't know why. And so I think that's what's really hard about intuition and and what's really, really amazing because we get to pave our own way. And it is so needed.
01:16:24
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it is so needed more now than ever. i think especially with... the way the world is and with this feminine rising and it's so, so, so important. And I would have to agree do think it's a daily practice that we have to cultivate.
01:16:41
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It's just like trust when trust is broken. It's really hard to rebuild that. So if you think of your intuition of like, you're not practicing it, we have to rebuild it to gain trust for ourselves and to just trust our intuition and knowing that, you know,
01:16:58
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you were going to follow your intuition. And even if it doesn't lead to exactly where you thought it was going to, there's a reason for that too, right? It's either a lesson or it's growth or a certain challenge arises that you needed to experience to actually get to where you want to go.
01:17:13
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Yes, absolutely. So another thing that I want to touch on while we still have time is we keep mentioning feminine and like the feminine rising. So can you just tell us a little bit more about the the feminine rising or kind of the difference between masculine and feminine? And then I also want to touch on having these types of conversations with men.
01:17:38
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that' sata Well, I don't honestly know if I'm the right person to answer this because I'm just still trying to understand it and lean into it and trust it. And I just, I feel like I haven't dove as deep as you have into the feminine, feminine, masculine space, but like really Jessica Zweig is, um, from the spiritual hustler podcast is really my, like,
01:18:03
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leader in this concept. And so, um you know, we all have a feminine and we all have a masculine side to us. Right. And then, Males do too, but they're masculine dominant.
01:18:19
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Females are feminine dominant. And so, um actually when I was listening to her podcast yesterday, she was saying that the feminine rising is like happening and it hasn't, the feminine hasn't been like on, I don't know if on top is the right way to say it, but like, um, dominant for like millennia. Yeah.
01:18:47
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So that's really all I like, no. And I'm also like trusting that I can feel it. And I'm not sure like how it's going to look or you know, what maybe I need to do to partake, but I'm like here for it.
01:19:04
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So now I want you to tell me, cause you, I know you know more about this. Okay. So there's a huge difference between feminine energy and masculine energy. So the most basic way to describe that would be that a masculine energy is very like hustle and grind and control.
01:19:24
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And a feminine energy is very much surrendered and it's all about magnetism and trust and um receptivity.
01:19:36
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Basically everything we've been talking about is extremely feminine energy. Now that is not saying, I'm not talking about male and female at all.
01:19:49
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I'm talking strictly about energy. So yeah. There's times in both of our lives where we've been living from a masculine energy. I think that actually a lot of millennials in general have been in a very masculine energy for a long time. And now a lot of us are learning how to move into a more feminine energy. It's something that I witness on almost a daily basis.
01:20:13
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And, um, our, our world as a whole is actually moving a little bit more feminine, but I think that you and i can see this in our industry too. So, you know, I keep talking about our industry going in a new direction or like things are just different than they used to be. That's exactly what I'm talking about. I'm talking about,
01:20:37
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you know Our world, our industry, our personal lives, things becoming a lot more of a feminine energy and leaning into that feminine energy. And so like the way that we do things and the way that we function in our daily lives is becoming more feminine.
01:20:52
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Now there's some discomfort. In there, because when you're coming from a masculine energy, and there's a lot of this like control and hustle and grind, and I do think that there can be a time and a place for that, um you know, that you can step into that.
01:21:10
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But kind of learning how to balance the two energies together, I think is more where it's at. But I do think that as a whole, clearly our whole world is just moving into a more feminine energy, into a more spiritual energy, basically. yeah It's just the easiest way to put that. But like our industry for sure. I'm like, oh, the ways that we used to do things were actually quite masculine. And now I'm just watching everybody move into a more feminine energy, ah especially like solo estheticians that have more control over how they're running their businesses. Yeah.
01:21:49
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There's a lot of them that are like very, very feminine and a feminine energy, oh yeah more receptive energy. And we kind of coach both ways. So, and because both ways coexist, obviously,
01:22:04
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can't have one without the other. can't have one without the other. you know You can't have the male without the female. You can't have the masculine without the feminine. But like as a whole, there's just this huge shift towards the spiritual and the openness and the surrender and the trust and the intuition.
01:22:20
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you know But it is, it's just like a very spiritual energy of trust and abundance and alignment and purpose and ah kind of everything that we talk about. not that Again, not that there isn't a masculine energy present because there's some things that just are, you know, we have to pay taxes and we have to... pay our bills and we have to do, you know, things like that. And there's times that we are on a grind and, you know, for the rest of my day to day, will be in a very masculine energy because I have so many tasks to complete that I have to sit down and grind and hustle and like get those things done. Right.
01:22:55
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Right. But, um, it's, those are just two different energies to pay attention to. I think, um, I think in our industry, what has maybe happened and is still happening is that the feminine and the masculine have are being flipped on its head where the masculine was dominant. The feminine was just this underlying thing that kind of trickled through. It's always been there.
01:23:18
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And now it's like flipped over. um And we're being led by the feminine in our industry, in our businesses, in our practices as service providers. And we're still utilizing the masculine just in a different way, like with systems and with our foundational practices, like our follow-ups and all of those things, you know, are admin tasks, like those are masculine tasks. They are just not leading the show anymore.
01:23:44
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And therefore that is like you and I's whole purpose in this and helping us efficient is avoiding the burnout, you know, helping estheticians really love what they do for the long haul, playing the long game. And it really is because it's being led by the feminine.
01:24:01
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Oh, wow. Okay. i could not agree more. In fact, okay. So that was like the most amazing thing. Um, we're doing the masculine tasks with ah feminine outcome.
01:24:14
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Also, i think like you're, Your follow-ups are like making sure that your follow-ups and your social media and all of this and whatever, we do those masculine tasks in kind of a masculine energy because we know that that is what leads to like our purpose and our alignment. And that's what is going to attract the right people to us. And that's where we're talking about the balance between the two. Yeah.
Navigating Spiritual Awakenings
01:24:40
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They're both needed. You can't, again, you can have one without the other. It's just like you can't have light without the dark, right? And I'm not saying masculine is dark. Masculine is so powerful. We love the masculine energy. I know I do. When I'm in like my masculine energy, I feel unstoppable yeah for sure. I'm just not letting it leave the show anymore because i have, and it has led me to burnout and it has led me to,
01:25:02
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feeling and out of control in my business and feeling like I just, there's no end in sight, like complete exhaustion. yeah And we're just not, we're not operating that way anymore. No.
01:25:12
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Love it. Do too. And again, it's like, it's this a bigger purpose. It's this bigger thing. That's bigger than us. It's bigger than our business. It's bigger than, you know, and it's really in service of others and it's just so beautiful and it's exciting. it's just like fills me with so much joy. i don't know. It's just very cool.
01:25:35
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Yeah. So what I was saying earlier about not talking to men about this. Yes. Let's go there. So I just want to actually, I think, wrap this ah episode and conversation up, which was completely unplanned and we're so here for it.
01:25:51
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I want to give people advice. about if you're going through a spiritual awakening or if you're on this path or going down this path. And and one thing that tends to come up with a lot of people is they're like, I have a partner who doesn't support that or like, I can't say certain things. And I am here to tell you guys that most men are just way too logical for you to have these conversations expecting some sort of amazing outcome from them.
01:26:18
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um But I do find that they're receptive to it. They... So if, especially if they're in their masculine energy, they're going to allow you to be in your feminine energy and just explore whatever you want to explore and like whatever makes you happy, you know, but like I have noticed with the last three guys who have been in my life um,
01:26:39
Speaker
I'm like, okay, don't say that, you know, like, don't like, just let, just don't, I can talk to Tiffany later, you know, like just don't even go there because it, there, the conversation isn't, sometimes you can, and sometimes you can't like the last guy you dated, there were certain things that I could say. He was so open that he was like, okay, yeah, that's an interesting concept.
01:27:03
Speaker
Um, where there was another guy that I dated and he was like, dude, No. And just like total shutdown. And so I, so just read the energy, but don't expect your significant other, like don't expect the majority of men to be like, oh my gosh, you're right. And this is amazing. Let's go meditate. Like that's just not going happen.
01:27:23
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yeah So what we do suggest is that you find your tribe. You do find spaces where you can have these conversations so that you don't feel so alone, especially if you are going through a spiritual awakening, it can feel very lonely, but that's what we were talking about earlier is that everybody's waking up spiritually and it's tending to happen in waves. Whenever a big world event happens, more people wake up. And, um, and so i you aren't alone. There are so many people and so many resources and like,
01:27:56
Speaker
oh, masses of people who are going through the same thing or have been there, right? And so I was part of the 2020 group. um And so I've been able to help a lot of people through this. And it feels very good to be able to just reach back and say like, hey, this is what's happening. And here is a great way to go about it. Because sometimes you can also like another piece of advice that we have and that we gave is don't try to deconstruct religion. Yes.
01:28:27
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Because that is just a dark hole and it becomes your whole personality. Stay anchored into the personal development, the spiritual development, stay anchored into the light. Do not try to deconstruct your religion or get caught up in conspiracy theories. Mm-hmm. It is easy to do because that's what sparks a lot of spiritual awakenings is when you realize that you are watching a show, you are watching a movie, what you're seeing in the news, like what you're seeing going on in the world.
01:29:00
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It's not as real as you think it is. And that can lead you down a dark, dark, dark place. So my best suggestion and what I have learned, especially recently from a lot of spiritual leaders is let go of the conspiracy theories and don't go down the rabbit holes.
01:29:20
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In fact, what led to my spiritual awakening was I was down the darkest rabbit hole you could ever go through. And a part of me had to die to let go of it and then wake up again. And I probably haven't even told you that part.
01:29:34
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Well, it kind of makes sense from what I do know, actually. Yeah. Like a part of me had to die because I was so deep into it. And so that's the number one piece of advice I give people. Don't try to deconstruct religion.
01:29:47
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Don't start going yeah like... Be aware of the conspiracies if you want to stay out of the rabbit hole, just separate yourself from it and stay anchored into your spiritual growth, your light, your purpose, giving back.
01:30:02
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You
Resources for Spiritual Growth
01:30:03
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know, when you're um faced with different books or podcasts or, you know, whatever it is, Try to, you know, work on leaning into your intuition and say, is this what I want to be consuming or do I want to stay anchored into the light? And I really encourage you to just stay anchored into the light. Let the conspiracies go.
01:30:24
Speaker
Let the religious stuff go. let it be what it is As part of that like human world that we've been living in for a long time, don't try to deconstruct it because it's going to lead you down a really dark path. It almost is going to pull you away from your purpose more than anything.
01:30:41
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Yeah, I think it's meant to be a distraction for sure. And it's a dark hole and pay attention to how it makes that kind of stuff makes you feel. If you feel yucky after consuming it, if you feel heavy, if you feel just like, you know, energy that's just sticking to you that you don't feel great. That is such a great sign. Yeah.
01:31:01
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that it's not really the best avenue or path or resource to be consuming, right? Because energy energy gets stuck on us. And then we have to work that much harder to get that stuck energy offer away from us and crawl back out of a dark hole.
01:31:16
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And so really pay attention to how things make you feel. lean really hard into the things that bring you joy and make you feel lighter and make you feel good in your purpose. And really like, it's like a moth to a flame, follow the light.
01:31:32
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Yes, absolutely. Um, what else books let's give some book recommendations. I just finished the untethered soul. oh my gosh. It was amazing. That's my number one recommendation. When you start down this path is the untethered soul and really anything by Michael Singer, but I would definitely start there, but he also has a fantastic podcast, YouTube channel, all of that. He is just, he is incredible.
01:32:00
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And then cartoli is another really great place to start. Like the power of now and a new earth is so good. Yes. I, the power of intention. That's a really great book. That was one that I really loved. Wayne all of his stuff would be great to consume. Also, um, Louise Hay.
01:32:21
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What remind me? She is like old school, personal spiritual development. I don't know if I've read any of hers. let me write her down. She's really fantastic too.
01:32:33
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She's a good place to start because she's gentle. She's not like so, you know, she's very much like affirmations and self-love and healing your heart and and stuff like that is so good.
01:32:44
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So those are some good places to start. If you're a little further on your spiritual journey, we do love Jessica Zweig. Yeah. You know, she... has some concepts that might sound crazy to you. Or if you're like me, you're like, i resonate with that. Like she's very much into aliens and this and that. And so am I, and I'm not ashamed of it. I just don't talk about it all the time.
01:33:07
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Um, but she is so good at balancing, which is also what we're so passionate about and why we do what we do. like balancing the spiritual with the business. um In fact, her podcast is called the spiritual hustler for a reason is because she's like, we're going to hustle with purpose sort of a thing.
01:33:28
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So her content is absolutely amazing. We do love ah the almost 30 podcast and book, like they're so fantastic as well. Um, and then Tiff gives some of yours and then I'm actually going to open up my, um, my podcast and my audible and give some more recommendations.
01:33:47
Speaker
I love Jenna's always podcast. I talked about hers at the beginning of this episode. Um, the human design podcast, I, she's rebranded, so it's actually called something else now, but it's still, if you search Jenna Zoe or the human design podcast, you'll find her. I really love hers. She's been very powerful for me. and And yeah, that's probably a line. It's called the line.
01:34:15
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Oh yeah. With Jenna Zoe. Um, that's one of my favorites. Um, yeah, those are really the ones that I tune into pretty regularly. Um, the only other book that I would recommend is the light between us by Laurel and Jackson.
01:34:31
Speaker
I really, really like that one. And then she's got one, called signs. That's a great one too. Um, so you guys can look those up too. Yes. Okay. So more podcasts, the highest self podcast with Sahara Rose. Oh yes. Very good one. She's wonderful.
01:34:47
Speaker
Another one of my recent favorites is called know thyself.
01:34:53
Speaker
I do want to spell Zweig, Jessica Zweig, the spiritual husser. It's z w e I g hey Another one let's see.
01:35:07
Speaker
Well, Ed Milet is my favorite. I mean, that's, and he's actually, he's pretty masculine, but he actually talks a lot about spirituality. So he's really balanced in my opinion.
01:35:20
Speaker
ah We talked about almost 30 people. It was another very good one. i also, you know what? I highly recommend Aaron Dowdy. If you guys have not ever landed with Aaron Dowdy, I really like him. He repeats stories a lot, but that's because they're in important. And so he talks a lot about just staying in your own energy, you know, learning to be more magnetic and doubt. So it's a, a, r, o, n and his last name is D O U G H T Y.
01:35:51
Speaker
um Let's see. Jamie Kern Lima's show is great. Really good. Yeah. I was talking to Tiffany this morning about the diary of a CEO is really good. um i love Lewis Howes, the school of greatness. Both of those are a little bit more like personal development.
01:36:08
Speaker
um So I would definitely start with some of those podcasts and let me see if there's any books. Yeah. I mean, I've got lots of books right now. I'm really into Joe Dispenza, actually. So i've I've started diving back into Joe Dispenza recently. So I'm listening to You Are the Placebo and I'm reading ah Becoming Supernatural.
01:36:32
Speaker
Mm hmm. Very good. and gosh, I just have so many books that I would recommend. Honestly, Jessica is the book library. When i need a book, I'll just ask her.
01:36:45
Speaker
I really I'm not going to Google it. I'm just going to ask her because she's read them all. I really do have a library too in my house of all of these types of books. So I think we'll just, yeah, we'll just land there with those being our top recommendations. I know that I have more books. In fact, I made a huge stack of books last night that I want to revisit um from my little library that I have. And and a Happy Pocket Full of Money is another like spiritual financial book that I'm really excited to dive into that's been highly recommended.
01:37:20
Speaker
So I put that one in my Amazon cart yesterday. did you? Yeah.
01:37:25
Speaker
So, you know, stay in your own power, stay in your own lane. um When you're going through a spiritual awakening, you definitely want to like find your people versus like just talking to many people. Sometimes when people first start going through it, they're like saying things with their friends and family and saying things with their significant other and you're going to get shut down.
01:37:46
Speaker
Like these are conversations I don't have with my family anymore because I just... you know, it always shut down. i just barely told my little sister who was like another one of my soulmates about my spiritual awakening. And, um, she was really receptive to it actually. And she's like, asked me a lot of questions, but for the most part, I just don't, uh, I know who I can have these conversations with Tiffany's number one,
01:38:11
Speaker
ah And then a lot of it I think is just so personal, you know, it's your own guidance system. It's how you're living your life. That's how you're operating in the day to day. And you just don't necessarily need to like talk with your friends and family or like your significant other about it. And I know that sounds crazy because when you wake up, there's so much that you want to share, but I think what you have to understand stand is psychology and that most people are operating from don't
01:38:43
Speaker
Mostly religious construct. Yes. And that is so ingrained in their psychology. You can't talk people out of that, nor should you. so i have learned like everybody is on their own path and I am not here to change it. I'm only here to be an example.
01:39:01
Speaker
And I think what I loved the most about yesterday is when she said, i know that you guys know something that I don't know. yeah you know And we haven't ever came out and been like, hey, this is what we believe. This is this, this is this. We just, oh like, we kind of live it and we're in it and have certain conversations and kind of lead a certain way to where...
01:39:23
Speaker
you know, when people want to have that conversation, they know that they can have it with us. Yeah. Yeah. And she was intuitively led to ask us, but it's not like, um, you know, you're out there just trying to like change everybody's minds. Yeah.
01:39:39
Speaker
I think maybe everybody goes through a titch of that. I know I did for a minute, especially like with my family. And I think just coming to the understanding, That not everybody maybe is as awake as you or again, we're all on our different path and that's okay.
01:39:54
Speaker
Everyone's timelines are different. Yeah. And so like... it's hard when you're in it and it's just like so meaningful to you and you want to bring everybody in it with you that you love and care about. And then you get shut down, like you said. yeah And so just being open to who comes to your life, that is part of your tribe and being very just open to that and just trusting that,
01:40:19
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whoever, like you're not meant to go through it alone. No, nobody is. And you will, when you're open to just being receptive of anyone or you know, not anyone, but the right people, the right people will come to you at the right time.
01:40:32
Speaker
Yeah, they definitely will. I know it like in our business, we usually attract people who are there for it. Like they're, they're ready for it and they're in it. And they've got like a good understanding and grasp because you're going to attract the people who resonate on your own frequency.
01:40:48
Speaker
That's why you and I really don't even advertise. Like talk about it, but we're not out there headhunting coaching clients. Like they come to us and ask. And I think it's a very, very cool. Yeah. Yeah.
01:40:59
Speaker
Well, this was not what we planned, but I am so grateful. Like this such a fun conversation and. Yeah. Thank you for showing up for this today. Yes. I obviously was needed.
Retail Sales Classes and Community Engagement
01:41:12
Speaker
um Share with us where everyone can find you, Jess. Yeah, I am just um at the underscore SD with an E underscore coach on Instagram. I have not been super active on there lately. I've been paying more attention to our podcast page, which is at the beyond aesthetics.
01:41:32
Speaker
And do you have any offers right now you want to share? Yeah. I mean, i i will still book my retail sales class for anybody who wants to take that. I did it with somebody recently and it was such a great experience. So that is still, it's just kind of always available until I turn that into an online course. I would say in January though, that one-on-one price was is definitely going to go up. So if you do want to book that with me for just $150, you definitely would want to do that before the end of the year. It's like giving away a lot. um But I love doing it too. And so i'm I'm happy to do it. So if you want to book that with me, I'm definitely doing that.
01:42:09
Speaker
We don't have any room for coaching for the like, nope, we are looking into January and February at this time. And then we are starting our next mastermind in January. and I will be putting more information on my page over the next couple of weeks about the upcoming mastermind. I've had a lot of people reach out, but I have like old dates and stuff.
01:42:31
Speaker
So we will be putting out some more updated information um and getting that solidified within the next four weeks or so. So you are welcome to just get on the waiting list now, though. We're not asking for deposits or promises. We're just building our wait list, which is actually already pretty full. So if you want to get on it, you want to get on it like.
01:42:51
Speaker
Yeah. Don't sit on it. Cause I, thought that wait list is growing. I feel like by the day, which is amazing, but if you do want an opportunity to work with us, like the mastermind is so amazing and so powerful and such a special so place, um, shoot us a DM and just, you know, get on our wait list again, no promise, no deposit. We'll just start building that wait list and at least know that you're interested.
01:43:13
Speaker
um That's amazing. And I can't recommend just as retail sales masterclass enough. Like if retail sales, you are your bread and butter of your business, the easiest way to increase your revenue. And if retail is a struggle or a challenge for you, just as class will change your life. It will change your life anyways. Even if you're already good at retail. It's just a different approach to retail. And so I can't recommend your class enough. Cannot recommend it enough.
01:43:43
Speaker
Thank you Tell us where everyone can find to you and what you have going on right now. You can follow me Sweet Cheeks University. i think I'm on all the platforms, you guys. I'm on Instagram and Facebook and TikTok.
01:43:55
Speaker
And if you want to take a peek at how I run my own skincare business, you can follow me at sweet cheeks, waxing, skincare, and all the places as well. I would love a follow. I would love ah connection. And I mean, you guys can always say hi in our DMS and we would love, um for your feedback on this podcast as well. It means the world to us.
01:44:18
Speaker
to hear the impact that we're making in your life and in your business. And so a review and a reading on the show would be amazing or share it on, on Instagram.
01:44:29
Speaker
We don't care. Yeah. Well, I just have to say to you should follow Tiffany's a sweet cheeks, waxing skincare page because her team is hilarious. I'm like obsessed with your team. I tell you probably every other day. I'm like, where did these girls come from? Yeah.
01:44:45
Speaker
but there. I know, same, gosh, I love their energy is just blowing me out of the water yeah and they're just so creative and so funny. And it's brought back. It's actually re sparked my own joy with social media because now I'm like, cause way back when, which was like only a couple years ago, I was making funny reels too.
01:45:06
Speaker
And then I've kind of gotten away from that or you just let that go by the wayside. And now I'm like, have all of this creativity sparked because of them too. I'm like, man, social media is so freaking fun. but Thank you for that. Yeah.
01:45:19
Speaker
They're hilarious. Well, thank you guys so much for joining us. We love you. We appreciate our community. So enjoy the rest of your day, the rest of your week, the rest of your month, reach out to us anytime, have pretty dreams, and we'll see you in the next episode.
01:45:35
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Bye.