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The Intuitive Esthetician with Dallisa Hocking
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Success isn't always built from strategy alone.
Sometimes, it's built from learning to trust yourself.
In this thought-provoking conversation, we sit down with 5th-generation psychic medium Dallisa Hocking to explore the role intuition plays in building a fulfilling career, making aligned decisions, attracting opportunities, and creating success that feels as good as it looks.
Together, we dive into the connection between intuition, self-worth, pricing, abundance, receiving, and the energetic frequency we bring into our businesses every day.
Whether you're curious about intuition, looking to strengthen your trust in yourself, or seeking a fresh perspective on growth and abundance, this conversation offers practical insights and powerful reflections for both your personal and professional journey.
Because sometimes the next step forward isn't found outside of you, it's found by listening to the wisdom that's already within.
Connect with Dallisa Hocking: Instagram @Dallisahocking Website: www.spiritandspark.com
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Transcript
Introduction and Guest Overview
00:01:20
Speaker
Good morning, everybody, and welcome to the Beyond Aesthetics podcast. I am your host, Jessica Peterson, and I am joined by my co-host, Tiffany, and a very, very special guest, Delisa Hawking.
00:01:36
Speaker
And I'm going to do a quick intro and then we just want to dive right in like so deep. So Delisa Hawking is a fifth generation psychic medium educator and consciousness guide whose work focuses on teaching people how to listen to themselves. Rather than outsourcing intuition to predictions or readings, her main focus is helping individuals build inner literacy. The ability to trust perception, recognize patterns, and navigate life from within.
00:02:05
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Bridging intuition and consciousness studies, Delisa treats intuition as a practical, repeatable skill. Through classes, certifications, and community learning, she empowers people to ask better questions, develop discernment, and lead their lives with clarity, curiosity, and self-trust.
00:02:22
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Learn more and claim your free gift at spirit and spark.com. And of course we'll have all of that in the show notes as well. Delisa, welcome to the beyond aesthetics.
00:02:33
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I am really excited to
Intuition in Practice
00:02:35
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be here. i know that I am a bit unique in terms of having a guest on your show, but I know that the conversation think will be a really interesting one.
00:02:46
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Yes. Well, and we were just chatting of course, before we hit record, I've been listening to you for a while now I don't remember the first time I had heard you on a podcast, but you know, as soon as I heard you in one podcast, I searched your name out on YouTube and I like listen to you before I go to bed at night. And so it was so fun to have you. And it really does feel like an honor And what I really enjoy about you and why you're such a go-to is really the practicality of intuition and spirituality. You make it very... doable and you're also, you're very grounded. You're very grounded. You're very light. You're very comfy. And it's interesting, even when you talk about heavier subjects, they don't feel heavy. They feel grounded. They feel light. Everything just feels like hopeful and practical with you. And, and we're really excited also because, um, you know, we're going to be focusing so much of this conversation on intuition um,
00:03:50
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but Tiffany and I really have built beyond aesthetics based on our own intuition. And I think a lot of that is because, and I hope that I can put this as eloquently as possible, but I think being in our industry, a very hands-on industry, we're in such an intimate space with people and being called to work with people's nervous systems and to calm them. And a lot of people are even bringing spirituality and healing into their practices. And so there is a level of intuition that I think we're being called to. So we're using our intuition to help guide others to use also their intuition and to create a very healing experience in the treatment room. And we definitely acknowledge the ripple effect that that has.
00:04:40
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And so we're really excited to get into
Delisa's Psychic Journey
00:04:43
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that subject. But before we do, we want to know all about you. we want to know your story. we want to know about, you know, probably both aspects, your career story, of course, and I know some of it, and it's really awesome. But then also just that you are a fifth generation psychic medium. And we definitely want to learn more about that too. So I'm just going to turn it over to you and let you share whatever you feel called to share. And then if we have questions, we'll just pop in and ask you some questions.
00:05:16
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Yeah, happy to share. actually worked in a spa. It was a private spa in Las Vegas. That was part of a high end, a condominium complex. And that was, oh my gosh, over 20 years ago. And I really enjoyed that experience, but i really got to know a lot of the practitioners, whether it was massage therapist, estheticians. And I noticed something really interesting about that a lot of people that worked in that spa with me were very intuitive, very empathic, um probably some of the most open-minded people that I'd ever met. And having this conversation and blending intuition and business and work and talking about all of it,
00:06:05
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I really feel like I'm speaking to some of my, my origin story, you know, with working in that, in that spa and I've owned different companies over the years. Uh, when I had all of my gifts drop in all my psychic abilities in August of 2015, I owned a company that I had started that did speed dating events in different States. And And i was a dating coach and I did some matchmaking and i decided at the very last minute that I was going to go from Texas where I was living at the time and fly to New York.
00:06:47
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and go to a retreat that was all about synchronicity. They had brought this group of people together. They were some of the leading experts that really studied synchronicity, how everything happens for a reason. i mean, how ironic could my story be? Like all my gifts drop in when I'm going to a retreat on synchronicity, like of course, right?
00:07:10
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So i i fly up there. All of these synchronicities happen while I'm on that trip. So many would take forever to to describe them all.
00:07:22
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But I'll tell you what happened at the end of the trip, because I think it's the most important part for our conversation today, which is after the retreat ended, I found out that my friend who I'd worked in Las Vegas with on a project, he just so happened to have a house near the Omega Institute where I was at on this retreat. And a mutual friend of ours said, oh, you're going to go see Peter, right?
00:07:48
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was like, oh yeah, yeah. So I reached out to Peter. He's like, yeah, come on over. We'll eat dinner. We'll watch a movie. So I'm over at his house the last night of my trip. And I decided I'm going to stay the night over there.
00:08:00
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And you know, the evening is unfolding as a normal evening would just catching up with a dear friend. I don't know his family. I only know him through work. and wouldn't you know, the phone rings.
00:08:15
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And his family called while I was sitting there to let my friend Peter know that his beloved aunt had died unexpectedly that day. She had fallen down a flight of stairs.
00:08:29
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I get chills as I tell the story because, you know, of course I feel so awful for him and his family and it was very unexpected. And so I give Peter my condolences and it's the end of the evening. And so I go off to the guest bedroom and he goes upstairs and i don't really think much more of his aunt because I don't, I don't know her. I don't have any connection to the family.
00:08:54
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Um, so I fall asleep pretty easily. And I think it was because I'd been at this retreat and I'd been meditating and And wouldn't you know, his aunt Barbara who had died hours before came through while I was sleeping and I could see her in the astral
Teaching Intuition as a Skill
00:09:11
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dream state. And a lot of people have had experiences where they dream of someone that's passed away. And it's kind of that same feeling where you can see them and sense them. And it just feels a little bit different than all the rest of the normal kind of dreams where your subconscious mind is trying to process things. So I could see her. I could see what she looked like.
00:09:32
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And i'd never seen her before. and through the use of telepathy, she wasn't moving her mouth at all, but I could hear her say to me, basically, I need you to do me a favor. I need you to tell my nephew that I'm okay. I made it to the other side.
00:09:50
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And that was, that was it. Right. So I wake up the next morning And I'm recalling what had happened. And I made a decision that, yeah, I'm gonna share what happened. So walk out to the kitchen where Peter was, i give him the message.
00:10:08
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She's okay, she made it to the other side. and he looked at me very straight faced and he said, what did she look like? And I described her facial features, her hair, and he said, that's her.
00:10:23
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said, okay, well message delivered. I'm going to go ahead and fly back to Texas now. And right. Like, what do you do? So my brain wouldn't shut off. Now I'm thinking about my grandmother who had these same gifts and abilities. And she was approaching the end of her life here on earth.
00:10:41
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And i would remember a story. She would tell me about her grandmother and I fly back to Texas. I'm like this, if Aunt Barbara, who I don't know, could come through, like what else is is trying to get my attention?
00:10:55
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So I decided that I was going to do a beta test. and I thought that maybe the clue as to why I was getting Aunt Barbara to come through was because I was at that retreat.
00:11:11
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And I think the key ingredient was that I had been doing binaural beat meditations. So there was a company there that's called sacred acoustics.
00:11:23
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And I still listen to their audio files to this day, all these years later, almost 11 years later. and You listen to them with headphones on and it puts a frequency in the right ear and a frequency in the left ear and get your brain waves into a state that allows you to be more open spiritually and to have these divine experiences. And so I get back to Texas and I'm like, okay, beta test time.
00:11:51
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I want to see if I could replicate this. So I got, they have a free file on their website. I'm not affiliated with them in any way, but I just downloaded the 20 minute free one and put the headphones on. And I asked permission from several people that I knew, but didn't know what was happening in their life at the time.
00:12:11
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And I said, can I channel for you? And here's how it's going to work. I'm just going to tune in. going to write down everything I can get about you and your energy. We won't be on the phone or anything. I'm just going to do it on my own. Once I've got it all written out, I'm going to call you.
00:12:25
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I'm going to tell you everything that I got. but All I want you to do is to tell me if it's accurate because I just want to see if this is working. And i started doing it. And so many people said to me during the experience, how did you know that nobody knows that about me?
00:12:45
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And so I thought, oh my God, my whole life has changed. I don't think I'm going to be a dating coach, the matchmaker anymore. i think I have to like completely implode my life and take on this journey as a psychic medium. So I started doing sessions over the
Corporate Influence and Spiritual Awakening
00:13:02
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phone only. And I think that's a tell a signal that you have somebody that's truly tapped in if they don't have to see you when they're doing this session. Yeah. because I'm not reading body language. I'm not reading facial expressions. Like you could be completely silent on the other end of the phone and I wouldn't know any different. Like I'm just telling you what's coming through. So that's how it started about a decade ago
00:13:25
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And then it went from there and a couple of the highlights, I decided to leave Texas, move back to Las Vegas where I had lived previously. I was an executive in the hospitality industry in my corporate days.
00:13:39
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And decided, well, if I'm going to do this, I'm going to live where my family's at. I have, you know, my parents were there, my brother and his family. I thought if this is going to fail miserably, i better have a place I can go to like get a shower and like get a hot meal. So um moved back to Vegas and it was just a wild, wild ride. So between that and when everything hit the fan in 2020,
00:14:08
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During that time period, I had worked at a woman's shop in a back room doing readings. Some days I would do 15, 16 readings in a day that were 20 minutes each.
00:14:22
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that was just insane to think about that. Now I then got so popular that I kept getting downloads that I needed to open my own spiritual center. So I opened that in Las Vegas. I had a bunch of different practitioners working out of there And then i ended up getting invited to have my own 90 minute live psychic stage show in Las Vegas. And so I was doing my psychic stage show when all the things happened in March of 2020 and all entertainment closed in Las Vegas. So then I pivoted into taking everything online and having a virtual company. So that's the story of how it all came to be.
00:15:09
Speaker
Wow. I have questions, of course. Okay. What a cool like origin story. So how old were you in like August of 2015 when this happened? And because you're fifth generation, were you expecting it to happen? Were you kind of maybe frustrated that it hadn't happened before in your life? Like walk us through that. Cause I'm so curious. Yeah. So let me do the math. So I would have been, let's see in 2015, would have been 34 going on 35. Okay.
00:15:45
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So I was kind of in the, I actually think it it was interesting with the timing. As I had mentioned, my grandmother was getting closer to the end of her journey. So it's almost like her gifts were transferring over into me. Yeah.
00:16:00
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Yeah. um But it also was a strange time because I was, you know, 34 when it happened, almost 35. I had never been married, no children.
00:16:13
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and it completely... created an upheaval in my life because then I was not only, you know, sorting out, well, who am I now in this world? Because I flipped on this gigantic light switch and I can't see the world the same way anymore. And i think that that was a big reason why I'm still, almost 11 years later, never married and no kids because it completely changed everything about me. i was having to relearn who I was, but then also explain it to people in a way that made sense, you know, because I am very practical and logical because I have a corporate background and I've owned different businesses. And so I've, I've been through a long journey in the last you know decade,
00:17:00
Speaker
but I did not think I was going to do this work professionally. It was not on my life bingo card. I did not think this was in in the stars for me, which is kind of ironic, right? Because if you're a psychic medium, you would think you would know what's coming. But one of the things people don't understand about being a psychic medium is actually kind of hard to see your own thing. It's like, it's hard to see the picture when you're the frame, I'm too close to it. So if I do need some insight, if I'm going through either a challenging part of my journey, or I can feel something is gonna change and I can feel that shift coming, would usually trade sessions with somebody that I respect and I'll read for them and they read for me because they're far enough away from it where they can actually look at it and tell me what they're seeing or sensing. And I like astrology for that reason too, because
00:18:01
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Astrology can be very practical because you're looking at a chart with all the signs and symbols and the transits happening in the sky. and you could really see like the weather forecast of what's coming in an astrology chart.
00:18:14
Speaker
And so, no, I didn't know it was going to happen to me. I'd had a little bit of intuition in the first 34, 35 years of my life. What's fascinating for me is when I kind of came out of the spiritual closet in 2015, 2016, had a lot of people from my past reach out and say, I am not surprised at all. You were always intuitive. It always felt like you knew what was coming. So I think I had more of it than I realized I did. but this was like getting you know hit over the head overnight and having everything literally flip on in a one night period.
00:19:01
Speaker
So
Mass Awakening and Societal Shifts
00:19:02
Speaker
for our audience, before we kind of get into today's conversation for our audience that doesn't have any history or background about you, can you shed light on you're at now with your gifts and like, you know, you kind of shared when that at spiritual light turned obviously it's gotten stronger for you. So like walk us through that.
00:19:26
Speaker
So these days I am doing more teaching and doing more content creation. i do a biweekly astrology show with a friend of mine who's a great astrologer, Scott Tajarian. Yeah, my Instagram, my TikTok, i'm on all I'm on all of the things. I started a sub stack where I'm writing more about things being intuitive, walking through this world as an empath, like what does this mean?
00:19:57
Speaker
And I really try to take a practical approach to all of it, which has been mentioned a few times, because I think in this industry, my experience of it has been a lot of spiritual practitioners can be very woo And I can certainly go down those rabbit holes, but i think sometimes it can feel so ethereal. It's almost like it's floating.
00:20:20
Speaker
And i like to approach it as like, how do we use this in our day-to-day life or in our work or in our company so that we can navigate our lives with more grace, more ease, more understanding? Because I know through teaching psychic development, having students all over the world, that anybody can do this. It's not just because I'm fifth generation. I think I came in to my physical body during this time because we are going to be going through such a mass awakening period that I came in to shine a light on how we can all do this and how it's not scary.
00:21:02
Speaker
And I think that's part of my bigger mission is to help people understand that they have their own superpowers within them and they don't have to outsource permission to anyone else. They know the answers within them. so that's been a big mission of mine lately. And I still do teach the classes and and offer sessions on occasion and things like that. But i feel like I'm more and more stepping into being a voice of practicality within the spiritual industry.
00:21:34
Speaker
Well, and don't you think though that that is such a huge, cause like, that's kind of how Tiffany and I feel too. Like we went through our own spiritual awakenings and then all of a sudden we're like, we've got to help people now. We've got to like bring this, you know, to the industry so that we can help people through these times. And so the integration is really important. And so I love that you're saying that because, you know, the, the woo, is it is woo, it is ethereal. It is like, man, I say some crazy things. Tiffany, no, she's like Jessica. What are you talking about? You know, but then at the same time, I'm like, how do we bring this to estheticians or to anybody, anybody who's looking to just implement this level of intuition and even spirituality into your work, into your daily life. And so I think the integration is something that we've been called to. And I also wonder,
00:22:38
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I think that there's been this awakening timeline. You know, there was like a shift around 2012 and then I hear 2015 a lot and then mine was 2020.
00:22:52
Speaker
And so there is this just kind of ongoing shift and we meet people all the time who are also waking up and we're like, man, who you were, who we knew you to be a few years ago.
00:23:06
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Marty is a good example, like our friend Marty. And I'm like, this is not, it's so different because you're, you're awakening and we're awakening to our gifts and how we can incorporate them into our daily life and then help other people with them. So have you found that, that there's just like these waves of waking up and it's just getting bigger and bigger and bigger?
Intuition in Business
00:23:27
Speaker
Absolutely. And what i channel, cause that's primarily what I do when I'm looking for information or I'm channeling on the world or making some kind of prediction, i go into a channeled state and some of the things that have come up in the last few years ah from spirit. And I call my spirit team, it's angels and guides and ancestors.
00:23:54
Speaker
And they've said there's going to be this mass awakening, but it's not necessarily all at once on the same day, which speaks to what you were just saying about 2012, 2015, 2020 as examples that we're in this period of dismantling. And we can see it in all these different systems that we may or may not be you know tapped into ah ourselves with things like education and healthcare and the financial system. real estate, like all of the systems that there would be the dismantling going across all these different systems in the coming years.
00:24:34
Speaker
And also an increase of more large scale weather events, you know, like tornadoes and hurricanes. I'm already seeing those uptick more as well. So spirit explained it as what's going to awaken one person isn't going to be the trigger that awakens another person. and so these layers of the dismantling really is designed if we take the invitation to step into our awareness more and our consciousness more because we may not all have an aunt Barbara experience in a dream state. It might be because we have something in our community that is unfolding. and Maybe there's an event that happens down the street that completely changes you and the trajectory of your life.
00:25:22
Speaker
The awakening experience is going to be different for everyone. and Spirits also said we don't have to take the invitation. And so there's going to be a lot of people that I do think are going to awaken more in these next few years, especially now through the early 2030s.
00:25:42
Speaker
But there's going to lot of people that also will not take the invitation and say, oh, I don't want to have anything to do with that. I'm going to stay in the way that things are.
00:25:55
Speaker
And I've seen it as more of that, that split. A lot of people have been feeling like a split in humanity or, you know, us against them. and it feels like there is a gap that's growing and that there will be a gap between the people that are not awakened and those that are awakened and not from a judgmental standpoint,
00:26:20
Speaker
But it just feels more like the energetic resonance of one group and another group are going to be so different that it's almost like the unawakened and the awakened are still on earth, but not quite overlapping in the same ways that they once were. So I do think there's going to be more and more duality on earth as we go along.
00:26:45
Speaker
Yeah, I definitely would agree with that. i just had that conversation with my dad the other day, actually. So I love talking about that. I love learning about that. And I definitely think you're right. And I definitely think that we are.
00:26:57
Speaker
seeing that for sure. So thank you so much for sharing that. How would you describe, since we were just talking about spiritual awakening, how would you describe a spiritual awakening to someone? If someone is maybe questioning, cat you know, have I had a spiritual awakening or, you know, maybe I would like to, what does that feel like? How would you put that into words?
00:27:22
Speaker
think it goes back to like that light switch. Like it feels like you turn on the light switch and you can't see people in the world and in the same way anymore. i think if you're getting more and more curious about your energy or What the trees are thinking, you know, what are animals thinking? Like, if you're starting to question more of the underlying energy of you, your life, the living things that you see, you're probably having an awakening experience. Yeah. And you can even ask yourself, like, how am I processing life today versus how was I processing it five years ago, 10 years ago? And kind of see, you know, the the journey that you've been on and and what you've experienced and learned about yourself and about life. But usually, in my experience, the spiritual awakening doesn't come when everything different.
00:28:24
Speaker
tidy and peaceful. It's usually when everything's hit the fan in some way. and you're like, i can't, I can't do this. Like I can't get through this or i don't know how I'm going to get through this. And there's something that comes from like the inside of us that says you can get through this. You will get through this. And so often people describe it as a dark night of the soul.
00:28:52
Speaker
I remember around that same time period when all my gifts dropped in I was going through a similar similar dark night of the soul. And i just felt like I didn't really fit in I didn't know.
00:29:07
Speaker
who I was in the world. i just felt so different from everyone else. And I remember a friend of mine said, have you tried astrology? i was like, uh, no, i mean, I've had readings before, but like, no, what do you mean? She's like, I think you should talk to my friend, Geraldine.
00:29:27
Speaker
and I said, okay. And so get on the phone with her And she could tell me within the first few minutes why I was feeling the way that I was feeling. But I think even more importantly, she told me when the light was going to appear at the end of the tunnel so that i knew that what I was feeling wasn't going to last forever. and so that was the beginning of my relationship with astrology and the timing of astrology so that
00:29:58
Speaker
I didn't feel like I ever had to feel like I was trapped in my own life. Like I could look to the sky, i could look to the position of the planets and what story they were telling so that I could make better sense of the lessons that I was supposed to be learning during that time period. But I think all of it are, you know, ingredients for the spiritual awakening. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
00:30:22
Speaker
I would definitely agree. It's, it really is if there comes a point where you don't see the world the same anymore. You know, after mine, I remember being on a hike and I wasn't quite sure what had happened. It was like an event and it was really weird. And, And then I went on a hike and i was talking to trees, talking to rocks and I was talking to flowers. And I just felt this like connection to everything. I was like, everything that's here has life in it.
Intuition in Aesthetics Practice
00:30:53
Speaker
And is and and that was the best indicator for me that I was like, okay
00:30:58
Speaker
something happened. i don't know what it is, but it's beautiful. And I feel amazing, even though there is a dark night of the soul too. And that is usually how it's born. And then you just wake up different.
00:31:12
Speaker
You just wake up different and it's wonderful. I could never go back. Yeah. I had a A small example of this yesterday, because I am very, very psychic. And so I do get a lot of impressions that come through about me and my life, even though i may not be able to see it the same way I see for a client, I still get these nudges. And, uh, I had gone to the plant store around the corner, of the nursery, from my house yesterday. And i bought a new plant and it's kind of big. So I had to figure out where to put it. And I'm a huge plant lover and plants are alive and they see us as their caregivers. And, and so I have this relationship with all these plants in my house and I moved a small plant, uh,
00:32:03
Speaker
to a different location yesterday. And originally it was next to this, um, Palm bonsai that I have. And so i moved it and put the little plan up on another shelf. And I was taking a shower last night and I literally heard the little plant say, can you put me back? I miss my friend. I thought, oh my God, this poor little plant, like, of course, like move you back. And so I moved it back last night and I could feel this like shift in energy of thank you. Like this little subtle impression of gratitude.
00:32:40
Speaker
and that's, you know, just a small example of how intuition can help us to feel like we are in flow with the people and plants and animals around us rather than forcing the current and feeling like we're swimming up the river. Because if we're really in tune with the subtleties of the universe, we're I think that we can flow much easier and we can feel where there's resistance. We can feel when it's a no. And when we honor that intuition and honor, when we're getting the no, then just seems like life is a little bit more magical and unfolds ah with a little bit more ease.
00:33:22
Speaker
Yeah. oh Yeah. Yeah. Definitely. Okay. I feel like that's a really good lead in to our conversation today. So let's talk about intuition as a business or career skill and not so much of a woo concept. So ah lean into it. Let's talk about it.
00:33:45
Speaker
I would argue maybe it's one of the most important skills that you can have as somebody either working, you know, like a quote unquote nine to five or somebody that owns their own business.
00:33:58
Speaker
It it's the skill that anybody can learn and lean into. And so I often get asked from people, well how do I know it's my intuition? Usually it's more subtle and soft.
00:34:12
Speaker
Usually there's either like a feeling or sensation in your physical body, or you just have this thought come in your head kind of out of nowhere. Okay.
00:34:23
Speaker
That's how, you know, it's intuition because I get a lot of questions from people that ask, well, how do I know if it's fear versus intuition? fear is usually something that you kind of loop on.
00:34:38
Speaker
Like it's something you're afraid of. And so your thoughts keep like spiraling around the question or the thought or the story, or you start making up a story about this fear that you have.
00:34:50
Speaker
and fear usually feels a little heavier in the body. and it usually feels like it has more urgency to it Whereas intuition it's just going to feel like a gentle friend.
00:35:07
Speaker
that is alongside you for your life, right? So they feel different. so you can even ask yourself, like, does this feel um frantic? Does this feel heavy? and if so, that might be more fear or does this feel like, huh, this came out of nowhere. I wasn't even thinking about this person or I wasn't thinking about, you know, this question and it just comes in.
00:35:34
Speaker
And so notice if it comes out of left field, because if it does, it's probably your intuition trying to tell you something. It could be information about a coworker or somebody that's on your team. I've seen that happen a lot over the years where it's not even about like the gossip or the drama about it, but it could be the universe giving you a nudge to let you know that there's something up with somebody around you. Like maybe they're acting like everything is okay, but there's something actually going on under the surface that they're not talking about.
00:36:13
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And if you're me, you might get those specifics about it, but um you might just have the sense of like, something's up, something's not quite right.
00:36:23
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I think we get those nudges So one, we can remember that we're all human and we're all going through you know, different experiences, but we're more alike than we are different. But number two, there there may be a call for you to spend a little bit more time with them or to lean in a little bit more to them and what's going on with them and invite them to go have coffee or tea and like just sit and talk about life because maybe they don't have anybody right now that they can really sit with and and be honest about what's happening. And so it's easier for them just to put on,
00:36:59
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you know, a smile and act like everything's okay. So sometimes we get those nudges for interpersonal relationships, which ultimately do affect our work or company. And so trusting when you feel like something's not like it normally is, if something's a little bit different than what you're used to with that person.
00:37:21
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I get a lot of business downloads um for my own business, for my own content, but I've also worked with a lot of business owners over the years to look at their companies and and choices they're making. So I think our intuition also wants to give us business ideas and help us to sort through like what is in my highest and best interest and what is not.
00:37:49
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And one thing that that we can do is if we get a download of, ooh, that could be really interesting, or what if I tried this, or what if I hosted that event, or whatever it is, if it drops in, you can actually do like a quick meditation. Maybe it's five, 10, 15 minutes, and you can bring that idea front and center as you're meditating.
00:38:13
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And you can ask the universe, if I do this idea, what is this going to feel like? What's it going to be like?
Pricing and Self-Worth
00:38:22
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Notice what comes up in your physical body.
00:38:25
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you can notice if you have any thoughts that drop in when you ask that question and you sit with the idea and try to stay very open-minded about it. Sometimes we talk ourselves out of the best ideas because you know we're afraid of success, we're afraid of failure, we're afraid of what other people are going to think about us.
00:38:46
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And so I would approach the question, of, you know, what would this idea be like if I do this? Try to be as open-minded and as neutral as possible. Because sometimes you ask the question, you're like, ooh, I don't like how this feels when I try this on.
00:39:03
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And other times you'll ask it and you're like, wow, I feel like kind of sparkly or excited. I feel like my energy got amped up. then you know you might want to lean more into that idea. And so I would approach it not expecting a certain answer.
00:39:20
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I would lean in more to the curiosity of asking the question and seeing what comes up. You may, with your eyes closed, if you're doing this meditation and asking the question, you may start to get what look like symbols or photos or mini movies playing out in your mind's eye Some people can have their eyes open and see it play out in front of them. Some people have their eyes closed and it just looks like they're looking at it through their their mind's eye.
00:39:48
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You might hear words and phrases either inside of your head that sounds like you or mine actually feel like they come in the words and they pass over the right ear. and so I know that anything coming in from that direction is part of the message.
00:40:07
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I would notice how you feel in your physical body. You feel like a heaviness? Do you feel an anxiousness or do you feel like your energy just almost like upticked a few notches? Like you're, you're feeling excited about the idea. Your body doesn't really lie to you but you have to be willing again, to be neutral and ask the question a because You might really, really, really want an idea to work, but you're like, gosh, whenever I ask about this, like, it just feels like it's not the right idea. It might be that the idea is not best for right now, or it's not supposed to be on the top of the priority list. But I would write it down somewhere and you could check a month later, a couple months later, like, is this now the right time to do this? Because i do think that the universe is incredibly intelligent.
00:41:06
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I think it is moving people, places, things around for us. And an idea that we have may not be best suited for this period of time, but maybe in another season, it will be. and so the universe is trying to be that friend to you to say, well, maybe you should pump the brakes a little bit.
00:41:28
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um But trust when you get that excitement. And I would suggest taking some steps, some very practical steps to get it going. Because I've also noticed that we get that excitement, we feel that it's a yes. We often will talk ourselves out of it before we ever make the first step to actually implement it.
00:41:49
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And so if you're going to ask the question, if you do get the yes, I would have some kind of plan in place of, okay, if this is a yes, what am I going to do next? And come up with maybe the first three steps you're going to take to implement the idea. so those are just a couple of examples to work with the intuition in your worker or in your own business.
00:42:11
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So Tiffany loves to say that your business has a heartbeat and that your business or even your career has its own energy. It has its own soul. It has its own heartbeat.
00:42:25
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And I think we can all agree with that. It's, it is its own thing. And we just kind of can learn to, to work with that. And, when you're tuning in and tune into the energy of it and like, what do you, what do you want? What is your next evolution? Do you believe that?
00:42:44
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I do. And you can actually create an astrology chart based on the birthday of your business. And yeah. So if somebody has like an LLC or they filed, um, you know corporation paperwork, usually there'll be some kind of stamp on it. Doesn't always have the time.
00:43:05
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um But if you have the date of when that company started, and usually a lot of business owners have to file like their annual report, depending on what state you're in.
Astrology in Decision Making
00:43:15
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You can take at least the date in a year and the city that you started your business in and you can pull up the astrology chart and see what the energy signatures are of the business. And it can give you some insight of like, what is the purpose of this business? Like from a spiritual perspective, um how can I make money? You can look at the Venus and the chart and determine, how you may be able to make more money ah in in your business. um Yeah, you can if you have the time of when the business is born, then you can actually look at the house system on the chart and that'll give you more clues as to things to do on social media or things that your company will be known for.
00:43:58
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yeah so it can get really fascinating with looking at a business chart, but you can do the same thing with cities. So if you're thinking about moving your business to a city or you're thinking about taking a job in another city, you can also look up the date of incorporation for the city. And you can look up that chart and you can do a synastry, what they call synastry charts. where it's your birth chart and the city's birth chart. And you can see how they're talking to each other to determine if living in that city is going to be the right move for you or potentially hardships that may come in as a result of the synastry charts. And you can also look at a technique called astrocartography, which is where you input your birth information and it pulls up ah a whole map of the world.
00:44:55
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And there's there's these like energetic ley lines over the map and it has all of the different planets and you can see what the energy is closest to the city you live in or the city you're thinking about moving for a job or to have your business in And some lines are much more favorable than other lines. Like there are some really hard lines and I've had some of those experiences with Saturn lines, with Pluto lines,
00:45:25
Speaker
and They're all going to teach you something, right? Like we can't avoid every obstacle. But if you're wondering like, what the heck is going on in this city that I live in, because I feel like I can't get ahead or i feel like the business opportunities are not there for me.
Building Self-Trust and Social Media Growth
00:45:42
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You may want to look at either a synastry chart with that city ah or look at your astro cartography lines and see if you have a difficult line that goes over the city or near the city.
00:45:57
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That is speaking so much to me. That is speaking so much because i think about my career, it spans out a very vast area.
00:46:08
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And so it's interesting to think about that because I'm sure that somebody's kind of personal evolution would line up with different places at different times.
00:46:21
Speaker
Wow. I've really never thought about that. I mean, I've thought about some aspects of that, but not to that level ever. Well, what I love is the integration part that you're laying out to utilize your intuition for somebody who's really questioning or wondering if this is a yes, if this is no, what you should do falling into that fear trap or cycle. And this is like some actual integration that you can do to support your intuition one way or the other.
00:46:53
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Yeah, you can really get a sense of who you are and why the heck you came here. One of my favorite things to do in someone's natal birth chart, and it is ideal if you have the exact time of birth because it does set up your whole chart. It's based off of um where the horizon was when you were born. and so if you have your exact time of birth down to the minute, it's usually on a birth certificate. Mm-hmm.
00:47:18
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Then ah you can see where all the houses one through 12 are. and the North node on anyone's chart is so important because I think it can really tell a story. So you look where the North node is in your chart. It looks like a little horseshoe. You look to see what house one through 12 it's in You look to see what zodiac sign it's in. You look to see if there's any planets around it or talking to it. That can give you a greater sense of why the heck you came here, like what you're here to do. So for example, I have my North node in the third house of leo
00:47:59
Speaker
And my chart, my third house is Leo and the the Leo energy is very heart centered. i kind of describe it as like a courageous person getting on stage to do a Ted talk because the third house is communications. It's how you communicate with the world. So my North node is in there. And in talking with my friend, Scott, the astrologer, and you know I do astrology too, but he said, well, looking at this, it feels like you are supposed to be the queen, which is Leo royalty, the queen of curiosity. And you're supposed to bring that out as a message to the world. And, and that's what I do with a lot of my content. So you can take all these ingredients and put them together and figure out what this North node in your chart art is saying about why your soul wanted to come here. and interestingly,
00:48:53
Speaker
It's usually not on the chart, but directly across from your north node is an upside down horseshoe looking thing. That is your south node. And your south node is what is the energy that you got really used to in a past lifetime. And it might be your natural inclination to do the south node thing.
00:49:16
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But you're not really supposed to be doing your south node. You're supposed to be doing your north node. So if you're feeling stuck, it might be because you're too much in the south node and you're not doing enough to activate the north node.
00:49:32
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I'm obsessed. i I will say so. There's a lot of astrology that I don't understand because there's so much to know. But that is the one thing that when I heard, um i don't know if you know who Aaron Dowdy is, but I heard him talk about North and South node and I started researching it and it really does make my life make sense. And it guides my decisions because my North node is an Aries My south node is in Libra. Those really are opposites. And it's really true that when you're living in your south node, you do feel stuck, like there is just a little bit more resistance or you know, things just don't feel right. And as soon as you start moving into your north node energy, it does seem like there's just a better flow and things are really working out and you feel better. And so that is the one thing that I do encourage people all the time.
00:50:25
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i'm like, do you know what your North node is? Do you know what your South node is? And then you start learning about the houses, which I don't remember that so much in my chart, but I remember when I was reading about it, I felt like this is the best guide for my life. Kind of like a lot of people lean into human design and I haven't even gone to into that, but I really do encourage people to learn more about that North and South node. and let it guide your decisions when you're feeling is stuck.
00:50:55
Speaker
Exactly. Lean into it more. Aaron Dowdy has the longer hair, right? huh but Okay. So I have to tell you this story then because you brought him up. So he is good friends and does business with Victor Odo, who does YouTube videos and talks about the moon cycles and stuff like that. Okay.
00:51:15
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So a couple of years ago, um i was in their coaching program. Okay. I did their full-time purpose program and it was before I'd gone viral on social media. Like I was just minding my own business, had my business, but like, I feel like I need to get more of this North node third house message out to the world. So I think i think Victor can help me with this. Cause Victor was really the day-to-day operations of the program. I think they still have the program in existence.
00:51:48
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And, uh, one thing that Victor had said was, okay, if you want to go viral on social media, which I think could be helpful for everybody listening that, you know, wants to get their message out to more people.
00:52:00
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He said, pick one platform. And do something every single day on that one platform at the same time. So I picked 1045 in the morning and I picked Instagram and I just used my account, Delisa Hawking. Like it was just my personal account. And wouldn't you know.
00:52:24
Speaker
I ended up hopping on social media and going viral to the point where I have 137,000 followers on Instagram. Wow. But it was because of that advice, which is like, you have to keep showing up every day and do something at the same time. So I was testing posts and reels.
00:52:43
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And reels were just getting so many more views. And one day I had a ah video, which was about how butterflies are signed from the other side of somebody that's passed away.
00:52:56
Speaker
it went mega viral and would refresh my Instagram and I'd have like hundreds and hundreds of new followers every time I'd refresh Instagram. So I share that as more of like a practical tip, but to grow your audience on socials. And of course, Instagram and Facebook are meta and they're connected. So when you get successful on one platform, they tend to start pushing you out on the other one. And I don't think people are really utilizing Facebook anymore in terms of like sharing business content, but it's why I would say you should share it on there because it's not as noisy on Facebook as it is on other platforms. That's true. That's true. That's true. And it's a different generation too. That's viewing your content that could be good for you.
00:53:44
Speaker
It's a very good point. What are some other ways we could use intuition as estheticians when it comes to our clients? Great question. you all Yeah, because you've got your client there and again, they may be telling you part of the story or,
00:54:03
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They may feel uncomfortable being there. Maybe they've never been to an esthetician before. Maybe they had a bad experience with an esthetician and now they're feeling anxious about why they're there.
00:54:17
Speaker
so I think think it's really important that when you're meeting with a client, i don't care if it's the first time you meet with them or this is the 50th time you've met with them. I would take a little bit of a breath and a little little bit of a beat or a pause at the beginning of greeting your client and bringing them into the room with you because there may be something going on with them energetically that could give you a lot of information that would be helpful.
00:54:47
Speaker
I think that in my experience of it, estheticians aren't just estheticians. I feel like they are... They're guides in a way, you know, they're, they're a companion. They're, they're a friend in some aspects.
00:55:04
Speaker
And i think that it's a business of developing relationships and not that you need to become their therapist, but how much would it mean to you if you were going through something difficult and you showed up to have a facial or a treatment from an esthetician and,
00:55:26
Speaker
You weren't saying it out loud, but the esthetician could feel something was up and just pause and ask for a moment. Are you okay? And really in the tone and the way they asked the question, you might find your client starts crying and and, feels like they're finally seen for the first time in a while, because you asked them how, like, how are they really doing?
00:55:52
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and maybe coming to you was
Energetic Management in Treatment Rooms
00:55:56
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an attempt to try to help themselves feel better because they are in a difficult position. Maybe they are going through a dark night of the soul. Maybe nobody is around them to hold them or to touch them in a way that feels loving and kind.
00:56:11
Speaker
And maybe they're coming to you in hopes that they will feel better in some way. And if they know they can come to you and they can say, you know, it it has been really hard and they know they're safe to say that out loud. They're safe to cry if they need to cry. i think that you build depth with your relationship so much more than just being a transaction that that is what helps your business grow. but from the center, the heart center,
00:56:44
Speaker
of doing it for maybe bigger reasons. Like maybe it's part of your purpose is to be more loving and kind and building relationships with other people, going deeper with people. Maybe you're not supposed to be here to have superficial relationships or surface level business transactions. Maybe your energy is you're supposed to go deep with them. And so if you just take the the moment and feel into it, You may start to recognize that when the client comes into your room, that your energy shifts, like you start to feel that something's up. Like maybe you start to feel something in the center of your chest, like anxiousness, or maybe you start to feel like your energy starts to constrict or, or, or get tight or heavy,
00:57:31
Speaker
I would trust that that's probably something you're feeling on the other person, not necessarily you. And we can quickly jump to they must not want to be here. They must not like me. They, they maybe made a mistake by booking this appointment, but that's usually not the case. It's it's usually that that person is going through something and you're picking up on what they're going through.
00:57:57
Speaker
and it's also just a segue into saying, You need to clear your energy. i would say clear your energy after every single client, but absolutely at the end of the day, i wouldn't even take that stuff home. And you can do something really simple. You can have crystals in like around your room or, or ah next to your, your bed or your chair, or at the desk that you're working out of, like just have these crystals in different parts of the room. I used to put a pairing of, Selenite S E L E N I T E Selenite paired with either black pormaline or black obsidian. And I'd have those pairs in corners of the room.
00:58:44
Speaker
Selenite is like a self-cleaning oven for crystals. So anything that you have next to a piece of Selenite, the Selenite will clear it for you. and so that's why I like putting the black crystal and the Selenite next to each other to keep the energy of the room clear But I also really like for me personally to clear my energy by brushing myself with one of my hands. So what I do is usually to stand in the middle of my living room, or in this case, you can be at the office, you could be in your treatment room and you can take your hand and go,
00:59:17
Speaker
anything that is not mine, go back to source for healing, be gone, be gone, be gone. And say it until you feel like there's a pop where you feel like, oh, okay. I feel like I let it go, but I would mean it when I say it, like any energy that is not mine, go back to source for healing, be gone, be gone, be gone. I'd go down my body, my midsection, my legs,
00:59:42
Speaker
And you can do it for probably 30, 60 seconds and and you'll feel that energy lift off of you, but it's something easy you can do between meeting different people. it's also something I would just do even before i walk inside my home and and let it all go and let it be a part of the day that you just had, but not what you're carrying forward into your own personal life.
01:00:08
Speaker
Oh my gosh. Yeah. We talk about that a lot. It really is important because there really is so much energy transfer that happens in that treatment room, or really like you're saying from the moment that you meet your guests and you go to greet them, it is instant energy transfer and knowing how to manage that is really important. And it's really not something that they teach in school.
01:00:34
Speaker
But it is career changing when you can learn how to manage it and learn those different techniques for sure. Okay, I want to talk about self-worth pricing and receiving more. So that's kind of the second thing, you know, in our coaching platforms, especially pricing always comes up in conversation. And Tiffany and I see everything depth, right?
01:01:00
Speaker
And we know like there's there's something else here. You know what I mean? Every single time we're like, this is not just about the practicality and we'll walk through. and we have amazing spreadsheets to help them understand, you know, this is really the cost. And so this, you know, let's look at your margins. And so we have all of that, but there's always something deeper. There's always like a self-worth or you know, this discomfort with receiving. So can you speak to that?
01:01:30
Speaker
There are so many people i have met over the years that undervalue themselves. And I see it all the time reflected in pricing because I do a lot of ah more of the psychic intuitive business side of things, you know, and so a lot of the conversations over the years are okay, well, what are you charging?
01:01:52
Speaker
you know, what are you, what are you doing for that amount of money? You know? And we sit there, we have the conversation and, you know, maybe it's that they're doing, ah you know, a one hour facial, let's say for example, and like, okay, well, what are you charging? They're like $97. I'm like, they're proud of it. Right.
01:02:10
Speaker
stuff like, Oh, okay. So how did you arrive to that price? They're like, Oh, what I want people to feel like they can afford me. And so I keep my price low. I'm like Interesting. Okay. So I like to lean in with questions when I'm meeting with a client, because I think when they come to their own epiphany, their own aha moment, it lands stronger and then they see it and they feel it. And then they start to shift and pivot that, but it always comes back to self-worth. It always comes back to what they think they are worth. Okay.
01:02:43
Speaker
And i wish I would have learned this a long time ago that you can basically charge anything you want. And I mean it, you can literally name your own price. However, your energy and belief about yourself has to match the frequency and resonance of that price.
01:03:03
Speaker
So if somebody is charging $97, let's say now I'm like, okay, well, you know, you could charge $4.97 for that. They might freak out and they might sell sabotage. And, you know, then they get no clients because they don't believe they're worth $4.97. Yeah.
01:03:21
Speaker
So it's that bigger conversation about, well, what do you think you are worth? How much education have you had? um you feel like the clients that come to you appreciate you and value you for the services that you're providing?
01:03:38
Speaker
And after a while of talking to each other, it usually comes out that they wish they could charge more. Okay. Well, wishing you could charge more is kind of a hypothetical, right? So what do you need to believe about yourself that you believe is true that gets you in alignment with a higher price where you actually feel good charging the higher price. Because I think that they're there's always room for growth and pricing, but I think the key is to find a price where you get excited that someone's paying you that amount of money because you know that you are worth that amount of money. Because whether you're charging 97 497, are going to attract in
01:04:25
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you are going to attract in the client that is willing to pay the 97 or the 497, because there is pricing psychology. and if let's say you're charging 497, which a lot of people might go, Oh my God, I would never charge that. Okay.
01:04:41
Speaker
But just for sake of example, that if you are charging the 497 and you believe you're worthy of it and you are just shining brightly and you're feeling that through your whole mind, body, and spirit, you're, You will actually start attracting people that see the value in you because they start thinking, wow, you charge $4.97. You must be really good. And I see you on social media and you just have this light that illuminates from you everything.
01:05:17
Speaker
well, I want the $497 session. Like it must be great. And then they start to feel more invested in you and your work. And then they start telling their friends, like, can you believe I just went to this person? It's $497. They're amazing.
01:05:35
Speaker
Right? So you get to dictate what the experience is with pricing and what people are going to be attracted into your work. depending on what you believe about yourself. um And so a little example of an exercise I usually do with people when they're trying to figure out what to charge and they've decided the 97 is too low. Like they need to be charging more.
01:06:01
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I say, okay, I want you to come up with what price you think you should charge. And they'll kind of, ah you know, you know And they'll say, okay, for example, 150. Okay, great.
01:06:13
Speaker
I want you to write out in a big black marker on a piece of paper, $150 a session. I want you to tape that up somewhere where gonna see it every day. But i want you to start to get used to that price and I want you to notice what happens. Some people will land on that number and say, I feel good about it. I feel confident. I know I'm worth that. So then they won't block the abundance.
01:06:36
Speaker
What can also happen is they're sitting with that 150 and after a few days or a week, they start to feel like that's not my number. And then they start to shift and adjust.
01:06:49
Speaker
And it could be that they actually want to go a little bit higher. Or that they don't want to do an hour. Now they want to do a longer experience. That's 90 minutes. And they want to adjust that to one 97 now. yeah And now they're like, okay, one 97, 90 minute session. And then they sit with that for a few days and they try that energy on. And then they start to get excited. They're like, yes, I feel like I'm offering something that I'm really excited to offer.
01:07:16
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And then they launch from there. So I would try different ideas and prices on for size. Ooh, I love that. Actually. That's a very smart.
01:07:29
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Tiffany is really good with her pricing. Yeah. And it shifted. like always exist Yeah, for sure.
Confidence in Pricing and Validation
01:07:36
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I feel like I've always been pretty good, but it has shifted as I've evolved to, but I do really love that try on per size, kind of like you're going to try on clothes to see how it feels, see how it fits, see how confident you feel with it. That's a really great tip. I would though say Jess and I witness this all the time as we go through our coaching with estheticians and they're working on their pricing and their menu. Um, there is a little bit of a, a little bit of back and forth sometimes, yeah like you said, where they'll throw a number out there and then it doesn't quite resonate or it doesn't stick because they're questioning themselves one way or the other.
01:08:14
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Yes. They start to question whether or not they can actually sell it for that price. And if they're having doubts, I would wait until they feel more confident before launching the new pricing or their initial pricing. Because if you don't believe you're worth it, you get to be right. Like you will block your abundance. You'll feel weird talking about your prices. You won't want to talk about pricing with clients. You won't want to show people your menu. Like you will block it consciously or unconsciously.
01:08:47
Speaker
So you really need to feel like the pricing works for you. And if you're if you're new or if you're launching a new price or a new service, you can always do like, hey, I'm doing the summer of introductory pricing or introductory pricing for this one service. So you know all summer long, you can try it.
01:09:10
Speaker
and get it for the special introductory pricing. But then once fall hits, it will go into full effect with the pricing that's that's more permanent, you know however you want to word that. But you can always give yourself a little bit of a runway to lower that price if you feel like you need to, to get that experience and get people comfortable with it.
01:09:31
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But I would just make sure that you feel good about it because you're the one that's going to be the energetic resonance of that pricing. And I don't want you to block your abundance. I have a question about that. um Looking or searching for outside validation to support, I feel like that is a big blockage. And so do you feel like, I guess, how could you walk an esthetician through that that feeling of needing to like talk to their family and then, or talk to, like they're putting out there to a couple of clients and then they're getting some resistance or some negative feedback and then they let that dictate how they move forward. But do you think that that is also connected to their own self-worth as well?
01:10:17
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For sure. a lot of people outsource permission to other people and it keeps them stuck or spiraling. And i would rather see somebody work with a coach like the two of you or somebody that they trust that,
01:10:33
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they wanna talk about pricing with and understand the pros and cons and how the energy is is fitting on them with the pricing. But I would really avoid asking anyone else outside of that for opinions on what you should charge because they aren't in your shoes. They don't know what it takes day in and day out. They don't know the training that you've been through. They're going to have an opinion based on their own life and lived experiences, which are not going to be your experiences. And they're probably going to be
01:11:04
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on different sides of yes or no, or this price or that price. And it's only going to confuse you more. I would pick like one person that you trust that you know, will give you sound advice that have been in your shoes as closely as possible.
01:11:22
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to ask them their opinion and go back and forth more like a conversation rather than outsourcing what you should do to them. Like nobody should ever decide what you're going to do with your business. You should decide that. But sometimes it does help to talk through the motivation and and the money and all that. But I wouldn't ask your partner. i wouldn't ask your parents. i wouldn't ask your BFF circle. i wouldn't ask them.
01:11:50
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Because they're not the ones that are going to be working your business day in and day out. And they may give you really awful advice. And then you might take their advice because it sounded like a good idea at the moment. And then you realize once you're doing it that it's not working for you. And then do you have resentment for them because you just wasted this time taking their advice?
01:12:10
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Just pick one person. i know like in the corporate world, when I was in Las Vegas, they would often talk about like having your own personal advisory board and not that you need to go have a board of people, but the concept was you should have a few individuals that you can go to that are further along on their pathway in your industry than you are. So that when you are faced with a choice and you're not quite sure what to do you can go to these trusted advisors,
01:12:40
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that have been where you've been, they've walked in your shoes and they can give you some sound advice based on what they've been through. But I would limit the amount of noise that you are accepting externally.
01:12:51
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I love that so much. So Delisa, we have um what we intuitively launched in March, we have a membership. And so now we've kind of moved everything to this membership platform. And that really is the beautiful thing about it is that it is um a group of like minded estheticians, and some of them are super far along. Yeah. And others are brand new. And it's been so wonderful to watch those collaborations happen when we've got this newbie asking questions about pricing, which is the example we're using. And then we've got somebody who's been doing this for decades and and they're coming in help. And so we couldn't agree more having a few people to reach out to or you know your coaches or an environment and community like we have created.
01:13:41
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versus outsourcing that to people who really have no idea is really important. But also how important is it to, I mean, I think we need to lean on our own intuition still that much more. So I feel like that kind of trumps it the even your advisory board, right? Is like tune into yourself and your own tuition and your heart and what is it telling you and try on this pricing and see how that feels and then take it somewhere else is so important. And I always like to remind people or how tiff and I talk about this often, like there is ah spirit and an energy inside of me That truly has access to everything and it knows everything. And then there's other guidance, you know, from the other side too. And that information is like infinite and learning to tap into that is life-changing and it's so powerful. And I would always guide people like you do in that direction first.
01:14:47
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I would ask yourself, just like you said, like what, what is it that I feel and get clear about what you would want to do first before asking anyone else's opinion.
01:14:57
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If you feel though, like you're in a season of your life where you're spiraling a bit and you can't get out of your own way and you're having trouble seeing if that is the right pricing, that could be a good time to talk to somebody and kind of bounce the ideas off of them. But I think building the relationship with your yourself and having that self-trust is going to be incredibly valuable when it comes to navigating your own work.
01:15:25
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Because a lot of people don't trust themselves, therefore they don't trust that they can find the right pricing for what they want to land at right now. And so if you want to build trust with yourself, you can do a simple thing, you know, each day pick one thing that you are going to commit to doing that day, one thing. It could be go walk around your block. It could be, you know, I'm going to go grocery shopping later today. Just pick one thing that you're going to commit to And then you go and you do it.
01:15:55
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And you're showing yourself that you are reliable. You are trustworthy. You're building that relationship with yourself. And the more that you do that and put yourself front and center in your own life, you will find that navigating sensitive topics like pricing gets easier because you know yourself more.
01:16:14
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but We love that. In fact, the episode that we published yesterday was called micro habits, massive shifts. And that was kind of the point of the episode is like, let's drink more water, you know, and then do that every day and keep that promise to yourself. Because that really is how you I love how you put that like become front and center in your life and really develop that trust with yourself is with just those small things. So I love that you shared that.
01:16:41
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how i So what's coming to me and how I would like to wrap up this conversation today is I'm going to shift to the conversation to Oh, kind of the the
Maintaining High Vibrations and Meditation
01:16:53
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shift in our world. There is an aspect of it that I think is getting uncomfortable for sure, especially if you're, you know, scrolling on social media and being exposed to a lot of heavier topics.
01:17:05
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I would love and something I was listening to you speak about on a podcast recently was what are some practical tips for keeping our vibes high? You know, how can we during turbulent times, you stay in a higher vibration. What are some practical tips you could give?
01:17:25
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I really feel like meditation is a non-negotiable these days. And that could mean a couple of different things. One is that you get an app like Insight Timer, or you've got YouTube and there's millions of meditations on there that are completely free. Insight Timer has a bunch that are free as well.
01:17:43
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And even if it starts at one minute a day, right? Like maybe you work up to five minutes a day, 10 minutes a day. i would do guided meditations because it's someone's voice. And like, i have a 10 minute one on my website that's free that you can listen to and it will take you through a 10 minute reset.
01:18:03
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But those few minutes that you spend, i would love everybody to do it every day, but even if it's every other day or three times a week, That simple few minutes where you are just listening to someone's voice and you're allowing yourself to breathe and be in the present moment, that will allow more spaciousness, which will not only raise your frequency, it'll also allow intuitive downloads to come in a lot easier and a lot clearer.
01:18:30
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So if you're like, I really want to develop my intuition. Well, you need to start meditating because that quiet time with just yourself is going to create that opening that doorway for your intuition to get more precise, a little bit easier to understand.
01:18:46
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um But if you're like, I don't want to sit there and listen to somebody's voice. If guided meditation is not for you. Then i would do something with physical movement. So whether it's yin yoga, something, you know, soft and gentle, going on a walk, going on a bike ride, going on a hike, but I would say doing it by yourself. If it's a hike, make sure you can do it safely. But doing it by yourself without any noise or interference. it's kind of the opposite of what I just said with the first example. so if you're going to go for a walk, like no earbuds, no phone calls, I want you to walk and just allow your energy to be and try not to be in the past,
01:19:29
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or in the future with your thoughts, really just try to notice what you're seeing as you're walking, whether it's the plants, the trees, the birds, and just allow yourself a few minutes to do that.
01:19:41
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That's called a meditation in motion. So you can do it either way, but I think one or the other or both right now in this world, and at least in the next several years, we can't skip on that.
01:19:54
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There's a practice also from a book called The Artist's Way. and it's ah it's a book that helps to get you more in touch with yourself and your creative process. It's a great book. Julia Cameron's the author. But one of the things i really loved about that book is there's a practice in it called Morning Pages.
01:20:16
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Morning pages is very simple. It is three blank pieces of paper and your pen, no journaling prompt, no agenda. And you literally sit with your three blank pages and you write until they're full, depending on how quickly you write. It's usually 25 45 minutes.
01:20:36
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But that is one of these practices that also creates the spaciousness to allow your intuition to be stronger. But it also gets out all of the energetic debris and crap from our mind or things we've been dealing with. And it dumps it all out on the piece of paper allows you to then move about your day.
01:20:57
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with so much more freedom and clarity. It's amazing what those three blank pages will do for your soul and your mind. so those would be things that I would suggest that anybody can do. They literally don't have to cost you anything. You got to buy some paper if you don't have a pen, but that's it, right? it's So very, very simple. But I also would just put it through the parameter of what could I do to be a healthier person, right? Because intuition is a frequency resonance.
01:21:25
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it gets higher with the healthier you are. So that could include, just like you said, drinking more water, getting more sleep, getting some movement of the physical body. Those things that help you feel better as a human will also help the intuition come in stronger. i would watch and kind of do like an audit of what you're eating. Are you eating high vibration foods, which would be like whole fruits, whole vegetables, or are you eating things that don't really have any energy in them? Maybe they're ultra processed foods, no judgment, you know, everybody's got the things that they love, but what you eat is also going to contribute to the energetic resonance that you have in your own body. And so the the healthier you're eating, the higher your frequency, the easier I think we glide through life, even on hard days. And so what we're doing for ourself and for this vehicle of the human body really does matter a lot at the end of the day.
01:22:27
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i agree. Before we wrap up, can you touch on, cause I just know that someone out there is thinking i can't meditate. i can't meditate.
01:22:39
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My mind is going crazy and I can't control my thoughts. It's not quiet in there. i know I would say about that. I know what I have to say about it, but I'm really curious. How do you respond to people who feel that way?
01:22:54
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I literally say to them, you got to just start small and do it anyway, because your brain will catch on. So if you're the person that's like, I can't do it. Don't even ask me. I've tried.
01:23:05
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and say, okay, well, can you just give me 60 seconds? Right. And I've noticed that if you can do a breath technique, that your mind is either counting or saying something as you're doing it, the 60 seconds will fly by. You can just set a 60 second timer on your phone.
01:23:23
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or on your microwave, you know, and a couple of examples would be that when you're breathing in through your nose, I would want you to say to yourself the word let, and as you're breathing out of your mouth, I'd want you to say the word go, let go. So as you're breathing in, you're saying to yourself, let breathing out of the mouth saying to yourself, go. And I want you to repeat it for 60 seconds.
01:23:45
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The next day, if you do 90 seconds, that would be great. But those are just examples of Getting your mind on board. The other one would be like a box breath, right? So you would breathe in through your nose as you count to four.
01:23:58
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You would hold your breath as you count to four. Exhale out of either your nose your mouth as you count to four. Hold for a count of four and repeat. When you are counting, you can't think of anything else.
01:24:12
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So again, set it for 60 seconds. If you're feeling bold, set it for two minutes, right? But you can work your way up. And if you start doing that, and you get in the habit of being really in tune with your own breath, then I think you'll be able to move into something like a guided meditation. Because you've now created a relationship between you and your breath and observing your breath or observing a count or an affirmation. And so it makes it a lot easier to transition over to a guided meditation. But your mind will probably be noisy at first if you just try to do guided meditations out of the gate because it's trying to get your attention.
01:24:51
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And so if you are even someone seasoned like me, that's done, who knows how many meditations at this point, there are certain days where it just feels still noisy. And so what I like to do is imagine that the thoughts, like when they come in, I just say, thank you for showing up. Thank you. Yep.
01:25:09
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I know I need to get gas. Thank you. Yep. I know I need to get milk. Thank you. Like it just comes in, but I imagine that it actually goes out of my head. The thought goes up and out of my head and floats over like a cloud and just goes by because if you're supposed to remember it, you're going to remember it afterwards. And so just allow it, like, thank it Thank you for coming in and then let it see if you can just let it go like a cloud floating out of your thoughts.
01:25:33
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Well, and I think that that's kind of the point of meditation is to learn that you aren't your thoughts. Thoughts just come and they go. And so eve I think that's actually really powerful is when those thoughts do come up, you just, I go like, I just brush them off. I'm like, okay, hi. Okay. Like you can go and I see you.
01:25:55
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Move along. And just being the observer of your thoughts, i think is also such a great place to start. So people, when they will say that to me, like, oh, my mind just won't shut off. I'm like, that's okay. That's the point is like, become the observer and just notice the thoughts as they come through.
01:26:14
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move them along, and you're really the one behind the thoughts. You're really, you know, your spirit is the one who is observing the thoughts and we're trying to get in touch with the spirit. And so by learning to observe the thoughts, you learn that you are the observer and that's really where we're trying to touch. That's what we're trying to get to And so, you know, I'm like, good. So you notice that you're thinking, you notice that who is noticing that your mind is being loud.
01:26:41
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That's who we're looking for. Yeah, it sounds like you read the book, The Untethered Soul by Michael Singer. We're both obsessed. Yes, so very much. In fact, we both have his new book. um Have you read the new? a It's a Wisdom Untethered. And it's so good because it's Q and A.
01:27:00
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It's really cool. And so it's a very much just people writing in with their questions about a lot of his theories and a lot of their experiences as they have been practicing them. And so it brings this a very human, like real human in your daily life aspect to all of his
Conclusion and Future Engagements
01:27:23
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principles. And it's been a really, really good read.
01:27:26
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Have you read Conversations with God? It was on a New York Times bestseller list for over two years, but it's similar. But in the book, the author... asks the question to the universe. God source gets the answer. So it's this dialogue back and forth. Yeah. I'm actually interviewing the author coming up for my summer speaker series. seriously Neil Donald Walsh, right? Yes. Yes. Yes.
01:27:53
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I'm interviewing him. He's amazing. Yeah. So exciting. And he has several books now too. yeah He he's another one that like you, I will like turn that on YouTube and just fall asleep to Yeah.
01:28:05
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I love stuff like that. And he's so, so wonderful to listen to, you which is funny because I haven't actually read that book, but it's a trilogy. And and so book number one was on the New York times bestseller list for over two years. So yeah, it's worth it. Oh, so cool. That's so exciting. so just to wrap up, tell our listener where they can find you, what some of your offer offers are, how do they connect with you?
01:28:34
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Everything's over on my website and that connects to my sub stack and all my socials, the summer speaker series. I would definitely get out in on that. It's totally free, one hundred percent free.
01:28:44
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And it's 12 different speakers this summer. And they're all going to be talking about something they're really passionate about. So, He's going to be talking about his new book that it just came out. So I'm going to be interviewing him about that. For example, Neil Donald Walsh, but astrologers and all kinds of really cool people. Nikki Allen, who is a well known psychic medium who used to be a police detective is part of the summer speaker series. So Yeah. All you got to do is go on my website and you'll see, um, the summer speaker series and just claim your seat. That way you get all those do zoom links and everything. Cause you'll actually be live on zoom if you want to ask the people questions. And so it's going to be awesome, but yeah, everything's over at spirit and spark.com and yeah, you'll see the classes and everything else on there.
01:29:35
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Oh, wonderful. Tiffany, do you have any final questions or any final thoughts? Well, yeah, I'm going to go to your website and that where just, i said yes, tap into everything that you have. I I'm again, just so honored for your presence here and everything that you shared with us and, Um, yeah, I'm obsessed and so, so grateful.
01:29:56
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Thank you so much. Yes. Same. Thank you so much for your time and being here. And I think what's so funny too, is that you're the one who reached out to us. So even though I knew of you and you're just so up my alley in these ways, I do think that that like intuition and synchronicity is just wonderful. If, if, cause Tiff's like, oh, did you reach out to her? And I was like, oh no, no, no. She reached out to us. And so I just, um, Oh my gosh, I'm so grateful. it's been such an honor. Thank you for everything that you've shared, but just thank you for being you and for your own intuition and following your own callings and your purpose and leaning into them. And you're such a good example of when you do, this is what you can create and you can create so much value in the lives of others beyond what you can even imagine. So thank you just for for being you and practicing what you
01:30:50
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teach Oh, thank you, ladies. I'm delighted that it all worked out and we got to do this collaboration together and I look forward to future conversations. Oh, thank you so much, Delisa. Have an amazing rest of your day and thank you from the bottom of our hearts. Yes. Thank you. Thank you. Bye.