Become a Creator today!Start creating today - Share your story with the world!
Start for free
00:00:00
00:00:01
The Unseen: More Than Skin with Haley Burli
89 Plays5 days ago
Haley Burli is an esthetician who leads with presence, intuition, and deep respect for the unseen layers of this work. Her approach is rooted in lived spirituality, authenticity, and her openness to working with the unseen energy of life and nature. In this conversation, Haley shares how her relationship to esthetics has evolved beyond skin care into a practice of connection, trust, and very intentional care.
Together, we talk about what it means to practice with depth in an industry that often prioritizes appearance over presence. From energetic boundaries and authenticity, to holding space during emotional moments, this episode invites estheticians to honor the invisible labor of their work and redefine what success truly looks like.
This conversation is for practitioners who know there is more happening in the room than technique alone and who are ready to trust the work they feel, not just the work they can see.
Find Haley! @enlightenedbeauty_byhaley on IG
Stay connected with us!
Instagram and Tik Tok @thebeyondesthetics @sweetcheeksuniversity @jessguidesesthies
Email us! hello@beyondestheticscoaching.com
Recommended
Transcript
Introduction to the Podcast and Hosts
00:00:02
Speaker
Welcome to the beyond aesthetics podcast, the podcast, where we dive deep into the journey of aestheticians who aspire to grow, not just professionally, but personally and spiritually.
00:00:15
Speaker
This is a space where the art of aesthetics meets the soul and the power of community fuels transformation. Whether you're looking to elevate your skills, expand your mindset or align your career with your deeper purpose, You are in the right place. Join us as we explore stories, strategies, and insights that go beyond the surface because growth happens from the inside out. This is beyond aesthetics. Let's grow
Meet Haley: Spiritual Esthetician from Northern Canada
00:00:41
Speaker
together. And I am one of your hosts, Tiffany or, and this is my beautiful co-host. My name is Jessica Peterson, and we are so excited and grateful for today's episode.
00:00:53
Speaker
We have such a special guest with us today. So Haley is a mom, spiritual esthetician, and Northern Canadian girl who helps people balance their nervous system and heal their skin holistically. She blends Reiki, facials, and relaxation massage to support both inner and outer wellness. When she's not in the treatment room, you'll find her hugging trees, lifting at the gym, or hanging out with her kids. Haley, welcome to Beyond Aesthetics. We're so grateful to have your presence with us today.
00:01:27
Speaker
i'm so excited to be here. So I was really drawn to Haley. We've been connected for, I was thinking about it this morning, I would say two or three years maybe on social media, maybe a little bit longer than that.
00:01:40
Speaker
And recently, I started to see more of
Haley's Spiritual and Authentic Journey
00:01:44
Speaker
your content. I don't know if that's my algorithm because I'm so like the spiritual tie. Right. So I don't know if it was just popping up. I also think that there was um,
00:01:56
Speaker
um spiritual connection here because you had told me later that you wanted to be on a podcast and you had been manifesting that. And so I think that our worlds were just drawn together because on Beyond Aesthetics, we have been very excited and looking for spiritual estheticians who are bringing that into their business. We are so here for it We are so curious about it as well. And really excited to bring that to our community because we do err on the side of spirituality, you know, and also one thing I love about you so much is your authenticity.
00:02:37
Speaker
You know, you just are such a perfect blend of this spirituality and this authenticity. What I love about you is that you're still so human and so fun, you know, with your spirituality. And so you really have this really special secret sauce to you that is so like, it just draws us in. And so we're so grateful to have you and to this this, this world. And like I said, we're very curious about it too. Like, how do we, how do we blend or how are you blending the, the authenticity and the spirituality and just your, your confidence and your growth in that. So, so really excited to have you. And today, this episode is going to be so much about aesthetics as presence, depth, and the lived spirituality.
Haley’s Personal Practices: Journaling and Skincare
00:03:29
Speaker
practicing differently and finding your own path that feels like you.
00:03:36
Speaker
And this conversation is more about becoming and we're just so here for it. So before we get started, we love to do some rapid fire human questions just to kind of anchor us and bring some light to this conversation that I feel like is probably going to get a little deep at times. So one of our favorite questions to ask everybody is how you caffeinate.
00:04:07
Speaker
Okay, so I'm not actually a huge coffee drinker. um but i I do like tea and my favorite tea lately is actually a chocolate mint tea.
00:04:23
Speaker
so it's kind of like a nice little treat in the morning and I just love anything mint. Like i just, yeah, so good. Um,
00:04:34
Speaker
But my son, so i we'll get into that, I'm sure. But he has been really into coffee lately. Really? so Yeah. So that's kind of, like, been our thing. Like, we'll try to have a coffee together before school or, like, on a Sunday morning. and so...
00:04:54
Speaker
Yeah, but honestly, mostly um hopes and dreams. Like that is what gets me going. Oh my gosh, I'm so upset. If I'm not feeling like good, I'm like, you know what? No one's going to get me there other than myself. So like, let's go. Oh my gosh, I love that. That's a perfect answer. Yeah.
00:05:21
Speaker
Okay. So what about, do you have any morning rituals or non-negotiables? um Yes. So i have to do journaling in the morning.
00:05:33
Speaker
um I've had this journaling practice, same exact journaling practice since 2019, actually. and I do it every single morning. um i do try to meditate as well. But my number one, like non-negotiable is my journaling practice.
00:05:51
Speaker
So can you tell us a little bit more about what that looks like? Yeah, so um usually, so I'll wake up the kids, and if we're running late, I'll do the morning journaling after they get up. But usually i like to do it, like, first thing in the morning, as soon as I get up, because the questions in there are, what do you what did you dream about?
00:06:18
Speaker
Are there any, like, signs in those dreams? What can it what is it trying to tell you? and then... How are you feeling this morning? What are you excited for?
00:06:29
Speaker
um i do this every day and I'm like, what are the questions again? ah And what are your commitments for today? so I always try to do three commitments or manifestations.
00:06:44
Speaker
And then... um
00:06:48
Speaker
Three affirmations. My favorite affirmation of all time is how does it get any better than this? And I say that if things are going really good or if things are going really shitty, because no matter what, like how does it get any better than this?
00:07:07
Speaker
It's going to get better regardless. Right. So anyway, that's like the one affirmation or mantra that I use every single day. um so I'll write that down. And then three things that I'm excited to have manifest in like three to five years.
00:07:23
Speaker
And that's pretty much my journaling practice. That's amazing. So this is a like a solid journal that already has the questions in it or do you just have like a blank notebook and then you write the question? actually I actually have it beside me. um It's a dotted journal. Okay. Like so it's like just literally dots.
00:07:40
Speaker
Okay. Blank journal. And I like the dotted journal because it gives me more like freedom. so like if I want to like I don't know if I want to like brain dump everywhere or like if I want to like draw or like whatever anyway so it's just a
Haley's Unique Upbringing and Connection with Nature
00:07:56
Speaker
blank journal from Amazon I love that where did you discover like these prompts or these questions so where'd those come from um A couple of them.
00:08:07
Speaker
So I don't know if you guys have heard of the manifestation, babe, Catherine McKenna. Yeah. Okay. so I discovered her, i feel like it was 2018 I was obsessed. Like I got her course and, um,
00:08:25
Speaker
I just like followed her and watched like binge watched all of her content. And she had this morning journaling practice. And so I just kind of like added on to that. And I've been doing it, like I said, since 2019. So that's like a non-negotiable for me.
00:08:42
Speaker
Can you look back and and see the difference since you've been committed to this journaling practice, this non-negotiable in your morning routine? Can you actually physically see the difference it's made in your life?
00:08:54
Speaker
Yes. Oh, yeah. Like the manifestations, like I can remember um when I first started, like I would write in there every day. i I'm so excited to have my own business or like I'm so excited to blah. Because I write it at the end. That's the last question is what are you excited to have manifested or whatever, three to five years from now? And I'll always write it in present tense. Yes. So I'll say I am so excited to...
00:09:25
Speaker
blank, like, whatever, have a, my billion dollar life, or my dream car, or my dream home, or, like, whatever, you know, so, um yeah, I've had definitely things already manifest into my life, and my dreams are definitely getting bigger, that's another difference. So yeah. I love
Path to Aesthetics: Education and Inspiration
00:09:48
Speaker
that too. Oh, thank you so much for sharing. I love stuff like that.
00:09:52
Speaker
ah love stuff like that. Thank you so much for that. Do you have a favorite skincare product? The stone crop cleansing oil. I know. i knew you were going to say that. It's like, it's just one of those products that like you if you're on a desert deserted island, like you need it. Like that would be my one product because it's just...
00:10:15
Speaker
even if like you're camping or anything like that which I'm a northern girl like we're always outside and camping and doing all those things um that's the one product that yeah like I can't I just can't go without because it's hydrating and you know it takes everything off and even even if you don't have like a moisturizer or like anything else you know like that's the one product that if I didn't have anything else that would be it Yes, we're all on the same page. We feel very much the same. So I love that you said that. What is your current guilty pleasure? I mean, we should we don't really feel guilty about these things by any means, but like, you know what I'm saying?
00:10:59
Speaker
So i have been on like a health kick for a few weeks now. And it's funny because in my, in the intro, I wanted to add like lifting at the gym because I really want that to be like my identity going into this year. It's very new. um But since I've started on this health kick, I've Chai lattes. I don't know if you guys are have had them from A&W, but I'm in a really small community and A&W is like one of the only like fast food places here. And so they make the best chai lattes. Stop.
00:11:37
Speaker
Oh my gosh. I'm dying. Okay. Good. No, this was a thing at I didn't either. Noted. Okay, girl. I am totally going to try. I'm going to find one and I'm going to get it because i love a chai latte too. And you know what? That reminds me of like salmon and Burger King.
00:11:57
Speaker
We're in a small community too. And we only have Burger King. I wish we had an ANW over Burger King, but I love those small towns, how they have that just like one random thing. It's like my favorite thing in the world. i want to live in a small town so bad. okay I love to hear that. Um, something and that people would be surprised to know about you.
00:12:22
Speaker
Um, there's two things, actually. So I grew up off grid. And this makes sense. and um Yeah, I actually went back there for a couple months, like my dad lives there. And yeah, so we grew up, me and my siblings grew up off grid.
00:12:44
Speaker
And then we moved to Manitoba when I was like, oh, gosh, I was young still, but I've always been connected to that place in Ontario. It's in Northern Ontario. it's My dad lives there. It was passed, or he bought the property from um my grandpa anyways so yeah it's just so
00:13:15
Speaker
ah it's such a different like way to live and ah yeah I spent two months there August and September because my dad got really sick so anyway it was like a really terrible a thing to happen but it was such a blessing to go back there and i feel I felt so grounded. I still do like from being there.
00:13:43
Speaker
But anyway, so yeah, I grew up off grid and then I was actually vegan for like two and a half years. um I don't know. That was, it was just, I feel like something I had to do for a little bit, but yeah. So That's really cool.
00:14:00
Speaker
Okay. I have to visit this off-grid thing. I have questions. Yeah. Go for it, Tiff. Well, okay. So off-grid, I'm assuming no power. What else does off-grid mean? Yeah.
00:14:11
Speaker
basically like living off the land yeah okay so like yeah so like no when I was younger we had no no power at all um like used a wood cook stove to cook food um had an outhouse for a bathroom like just like totally like you guys have any water ah no no okay No, my dad now he has solar panels and like he has a generator, which is used like
Integrating Spirituality in Aesthetics
00:14:44
Speaker
from a certain amount of time, like during the day. and then he powers his whole house with like a gas powered generator or solar panels.
00:14:53
Speaker
um And he now has like running water, like he has something rigged up. I don't know. I don't know how he did that. But so, yeah, he has power and running water in a washroom now. um But yeah, so basically just living off the land and he has cows and and goats and stuff. So and like a garden, i would assume.
00:15:20
Speaker
Yeah. Okay. k garden yeah So that sounds fascinating. I know I'm into this. So he is so fascinating. Like, yeah, he's so cool. um But it was obviously like really hard for my mom. And that's pretty much like why we left because there was i have me and my ah three siblings and he was gone um like working in the bush for like sometimes months at a time.
00:15:46
Speaker
And so she was my mom was at home with us. Taking care of the farm, taking care, like doing everything by hand, literally washing ah like laundry outside the wintertime, you know, by hand. Yes. Crazy.
00:16:02
Speaker
So, but it was definitely, um it's definitely shaped me. I think, into who I am and connecting with the land the way I do. Absolutely. well and I think that the groundedness that you would have grown up with, like growing up that way, i can see how that would carry you um even just visiting for a couple of months and really reconnecting with the land and just your your basic needs, your basic instincts, you know, without all of the the comforts of modern day society. i think that's really cool. I love knowing that about you.
00:16:37
Speaker
my Were you able to take your kids like with you this summer when you went and spent time with your dad? No, it was like, it was actually crazy. Like my stepmom called me and she was basically like, your dad is dying. You need to come here.
00:16:52
Speaker
And I was like, oh my God, flights were crazy expensive. I don't know how I pulled it off. Like I did stuff. I don't know. The universe was like, yep, you're going.
00:17:04
Speaker
And I'm sure going to get into all the spiritual things. But on my way there, um i just had this feeling that everything was going to be okay with my dad.
00:17:15
Speaker
And I seen a wolf and the wolf was walking towards the north. And to me, that was like, okay, like that was a sign that he was going to be okay. The north means to me, it's like, it's like tough and, and, um facing the storm and like being resilient basically and then my stepmom called me like 20 minutes later and said that my dad was like pulling through and he was going to be okay it was crazy like craziest thing but I really think that it was because I was going there and it really helped him push to get better because I haven't I didn't see him for a really long time but anyway yeah it was an emergency like situation my kids had to stay back and
00:18:03
Speaker
Yeah. So. Wow. Oh my gosh. I have so many chills right now. I know I do too. That is really, really cool.
00:18:14
Speaker
Okay. Um, this was a really good question. Actually, what is the belief about aesthetics that you have outgrown?
00:18:31
Speaker
I think, like when we're in school everything has to be like kind of approached in the same way and once not one size fits all but like kind of like yeah like structure like super super structured and there's no like wiggle room to like um ah adjust, I guess.
00:18:57
Speaker
And that's, I'm talking like energy wise, like you can't go into a, a, the appointment with like the same energy and the same like structure, the same exact questions, you know?
00:19:11
Speaker
Um, Which is good, like, when you're in school because you're learning and it needs to be, you know, kind of a certain way to, like, get used to questions and the competition and all that. But I think, yeah, like, super, super structure is something ah outgrown.
00:19:29
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. I love to hear that because it's true. you know In school, they're really, you know and I've been an instructor myself and I specialize in working with schools. And I'm like, yeah, you you kind of have to do things like one way to get that base. you know And that's a great thing. It really does build a foundation. But one thing that you know I always tell students as soon as they're out of school, I'm like, OK,
Haley's Spiritual Philosophy and Client Interaction
00:19:55
Speaker
now take everything that you learned and literally set it aside. because there is a whole other world out there for you to explore. There are different ways of doing things. There's different philosophies, and you're going to continue to you know shape and grow into your own esthetician with your own philosophies, your own ways of doing things, and those will you know shift and and morph along the way too. And so I love that you said that because there really is not like one way to have these conversations or one way to approach anything, which again is like what has drawn us so much to you. And it is such an important lesson that I think every esthetician, usually they learn that pretty quick, but I actually do run into a lot of people who are like still holding onto what they learned in school. They have a really hard time letting go of all of those things and all those structures and this like very black, like white, you know, thing. um And skincare is not black and white.
00:20:56
Speaker
No. There's layers to everything. There's nuances, there's layers, there's there's nothing that is actually black and white. And I feel like until you can just... let that go, which again can be really hard to do for a lot of estheticians. It is hard to be able to really find your place in the industry until you can relax into that and know that that's okay to explore different answers and different ways of doing things and knowing that there is no black and white with aesthetics. So I hope, did you adopt that pretty quick? Like how long did it take you to learn that?
00:21:33
Speaker
Um, Yeah, no, it it actually took a while. ben it I think it actually, because I apprenticed, I'm at the same place where I apprenticed, and I think it actually...
00:21:49
Speaker
I didn't the adapt to that until I actually started my own business. Yeah. I started renting a room because i had this um mentality of like, yeah, like doing everything the same and kind of following the energy and and structure as like the spa I was working at.
00:22:15
Speaker
You know, and and so i think it actually did take me a while to find my own rhythm and... um adapt to other like the client's energy rather than like ignoring that, you know? Yeah. Yeah.
00:22:35
Speaker
Yeah. And that's definitely something that I think we're going to get into later, you know, which I'm so excited. So before we move on, what's, what's bringing you joy lately, big or small?
00:22:48
Speaker
What is bringing me joy? the gym. Oh, I love to hear that. like too And I used to be such a fitness girl. And I think um the past few years has been more like internally and like more on the like back end of things like in business and all that. Now I'm focusing more on my health my appearance my um identity I guess and so going to the gym is such a like confidence boost and it just like literally makes me feel like so good and so happy and my son's actually coming with me now oh I love it how old is your son you keep mentioning him he's 14 I have I have a 14 year old and a 10 year old so love it nice and then do we have girls or just the two boys
00:23:38
Speaker
Just two boys. um That sounds really fun, actually. yeah I love that. I love having boys, yeah. And I grew up, like, my all my siblings are boys. so Oh, really? I've always been outnumbered by boys. And my brother has three sons also. Oh, my gosh. You're, like, the only girl. I'm the only girl. Wow. That's really cool because I feel like you're pretty feminine. Yeah. Yeah.
00:24:04
Speaker
Yeah, I've worked on it. It's definitely taken time to do or get into that, but yeah. Yeah. Okay. Awesome. Thank you.
00:24:16
Speaker
So Haley, now let's get into your origins and your becoming and kind of the foundation of your story and your journey. So walk us through what first called you into aesthetics and how has that reason evolved as you've evolved?
00:24:32
Speaker
Well, this is an exciting question because i honestly feel like it's in my blood. um i remember running, my mom's a hairstylist.
00:24:47
Speaker
And my grandma was hairstylist. And I'm pretty sure great-grandma was actually a hairstylist too. So I honestly feel like it's just, like, in my blood to be in this industry. I remember running home after school to, like, go and sit there and watch my mom do hair. Like, I just was so intrigued. And I seen how good it made my mom and her clients feel. But it was just so...
00:25:15
Speaker
like therapeutic for me and inspiring um so I think I knew like from a really young age that I wanted to be in this sort of industry and I wanted this to be my career but I think the turning point and the the point where I was like no I want to do aesthetics was i was in grade want to say grade seven or grade eight really, really bad acne.
00:25:44
Speaker
um i would go to school like all the time with makeup on and the one day I ran out of my makeup and I was like, I don't want to go to school. And anyways, I went to school with no makeup on.
00:26:01
Speaker
And this kid was like, I'll never forget this. I was so heartbroken in the moment, but he was like, oh, covered up pizza face. And that's what he said to me. And I was like, like, I was so embarrassed. I was so heartbroken. And i think that was honestly like the time the moment I was like, I'm going to help people heal their skin and like have confidence, you know? yeah.
00:26:33
Speaker
Um, yeah, I really alchemized that pain. yeah Um, but yeah, that was like the moment, uh, that i decided, i think, I don't know, it's hard to pinpoint, but I'm pretty sure that obviously had a huge impact on me. Yeah.
00:26:52
Speaker
Yeah, of course. Oh my gosh. Okay. So when did you, when did you go to aesthetic school? um I went to school. So I got my grade 12. It took me a little bit more time because I i got pregnant at a young age.
00:27:08
Speaker
And then so it took me a little
Transformative Client Experiences
00:27:10
Speaker
bit of time to get my grade 12. But as soon as I got my grade 12, graduated college. in September and then I mean in July June and then September I got my went to school I moved away and went to school uh in a town like six hours from my hometown which was like super hard but that was in 2017. Yeah so okay I've been doing aesthetics for like eight plus years now.
00:27:42
Speaker
Okay. So you went to aesthetic school and then you move you moved back to your hometown and started working, right? Okay. Yeah. Okay. And then you mentioned apprenticeship.
00:27:53
Speaker
he Because in Canada, you guys are very different than the U.S. where you don't do regulated licenses. You do certificates. Yeah. So you get your... um like you take your you go to school and then you start your apprenticeship like as soon as you're done school you get your certificate saying that you went school then you go and work under someone uh for oh my gosh i can't remember how many hours it is
00:28:24
Speaker
um I honestly can't remember. But anyway. Does every esthetician have to have to apprentice? Unless you get. Okay, wait, there's some there's some um different scenarios. Like I could have worked by myself because I'm in a northern community, which.
00:28:47
Speaker
Okay, so where I live, it's like six hours away from any city. Like it's very like isolated ah community. And so the apprenticeship program for my province is if you get like above 90, I think it is, you can apprentice yourself.
00:29:10
Speaker
If not, then you have to apprentice under someone, which I failed makeup, the makeup part of the exam, which like what I will literally never do makeup. But anyway, so I wasn't able to apprentice myself. So, yeah, I had to apprentice under someone. And then once you're done your hours, then you go and you take your exam and then your written exam. And then that's how you become a licensed esthetician. Okay. Okay. Okay. Super interesting. i actually like that. The apprentice part of things. I think that actually could be so powerful. Every esthetician, matter where you're located, had to go apprentice for a little bit. Yes. Right. Instead of just like, you guys don't have, uh, like a,
00:29:55
Speaker
You guys don't have to apprentice under anyone? You do not have to, no. Our schooling is super different. That's crazy. Every state is also different here, which is so confusing. like I went to school for 1,200 hours. I'm a master esthetician, you know, in Utah, but like in Idaho, you go to school for 600 hours. So every state is different. it's It's confusing. It should not be that way. And then TIFF just started an apprenticeship program. program. So you do have that option too. You can either go to school or you can apprentice, right? To become licensed. Yeah. Yeah. So this would be for just students who are trying to become licensed. You can go to like a traditional aesthetic school, do it that way, or you can do an apprenticeship like I have.
00:30:44
Speaker
just to become licensed though. But I do like the apprenticeship after you're like done with schooling to get like the, that real hands-on experience and to get some, you know, just like knowledge and help from an experienced licensed professional.
Encouraging Authenticity in Aesthetics Profession
00:30:59
Speaker
So i think it's actually pretty cool.
00:31:01
Speaker
Who, how did you find who you apprenticed with and like, how did that align and how'd that work out for you? Well, um There's only, like, at the time, I think there was only, like, two places to go, like, get your nails and and facial and whatever.
00:31:22
Speaker
So i I was super lucky. Like, yeah. um And that was the only place I'm pretty sure at the time that offered facials.
00:31:33
Speaker
And I knew I wanted to do facials, not just nails, which I know don't do nails anymore. I hate doing nails. um But yeah, so my schooling was actually funded, which super, super lucky because it was so Yeah.
00:31:56
Speaker
Yeah, so i I had this program that I got to go under to get my schooling paid for. But there was a letter that had to be written from someone saying, like, she will have a job when she's done school. And that person actually...
00:32:15
Speaker
closed her business while I was in school. So I was like, oh no, what am I going to do? And so i was kind of panicking and then i just reached out to the lady that owns the spa that I rent from now and she Yeah, she agreed to apprenticing me. So that was good. That's amazing. Yeah, the universe is like, really aligned well for you. Yeah, this is a repeating pattern.
00:32:43
Speaker
We're seeing I i think it's because I just kind of like go for things. Like, I'm just like, I have nothing to lose. Like, let's just go. Yeah. Yeah. Okay, so was Has there been a moment when you realized that this work was more than skincare for you?
00:33:01
Speaker
And if so, like when was that switch? We can maybe already answer that a little bit, but. um Well, when I was in school, my instructor took me and my classmates school.
00:33:16
Speaker
It was basically like this exhibit with crystals
Gratitude and Closing Remarks
00:33:20
Speaker
and like tarot card readers. And like, I had no idea. ah well I probably did. I just, I didn't realize how strong of a connection I had to like crystals and different things like that. But yeah, like how cool though, my instructor took us to this place, right? Yeah. yeah And this lady, she was, our group went over to this table and and this lady had like pendulums and different crystals for the different chakras. And she was basically like, okay, like what's, who are who are all of you? Like what's, ah what's the group about? And we said that we were going to school for aesthetics. We do like relaxation massage or whatever. So she started doing,
00:34:13
Speaker
using the pendulum to see where there was pain and the body and um like the and teaching us like how to align the different chakras and so i was like blown away and I was like how can I incorporate this into like my practice.
00:34:42
Speaker
Like I just knew, i think that was the moment I knew that this was like the avenue I wanted to take. Like I wanted to obviously be, um,
00:34:53
Speaker
like a skincare specialist and and doing facials and and at the time like I liked nails. But I was like, I need to figure out how to merge the two. And that was like the moment. And then while I was in school, I also experienced different energy healing modalities.
00:35:12
Speaker
And um Yeah, that was, it was game over from there. I was like, this is what I'm doing. is it. Yeah. Did you learn, like, did you become Reiki certified and stuff when you were still in school as well? Or was that, did that come after?
00:35:27
Speaker
That came after. Okay. yeah So, um, After cold COVID, like, I wasn't sure if I wanted to keep doing aesthetics.
00:35:39
Speaker
um I was just kind of like lost and, you know, the whole world shut down like everyone else is. And I just wasn't sure if I wanted to continue on with aesthetics. And then I seen this ad, think it was an ad, or maybe I was just following this lady,
00:36:00
Speaker
um Anyway, she had put on Facebook that she was going to be doing a Reiki course. And I was like, okay, maybe I should try to do this. And she had um like a scholarship thing that you can get the course like...
00:36:19
Speaker
paid for basically and you just have to be like why do you want to you just have to enter um give her send her an email as to why you want to do Reiki and how this can help you in your community whatever so I did and so I sent this email saying this is why I want to do this this is how it's going to help and she was like okay yep you you won the scholarship your course is paid for basically and like I know who she is she's from my community but she moved to bec and I heard like so many great things about her and i was like okay well now I have to do this course because it was basically literally like it was handed to me yeah um so i did the course and then after that I was just excited about everything again and realized like okay yes I literally can merge the two aesthetics and energy healing together
00:37:17
Speaker
And then, yeah, I just started one day. And now it's like four years, three years later? Yeah, three years, three and a half years.
00:37:31
Speaker
It's interesting to hear you say that you just started one day. i actually read that this morning and something I was reading is like, basically, if you want change, if you want to create like something in your life, you just literally have to start. You just have to do the thing. I love to hear you say that. You decide. Yeah. yeah Yeah. It was like a, there was a wellness event and I just was doing free Reiki sessions just to get my name out, just to practice, just to like get back into the swing of things because I never did any kind of service providing for like two years because of COVID and then because I lost motivation and inspiration and all that so um yeah I just signed up to be like a vendor at this wellness weekend and yeah I did that and then I was like i I'm just gonna talk to Deesa who's the lady that owns the spa and told her
00:38:27
Speaker
thought I'd like to rent a room. And then I just kind of I didn't even it was probably not the right steps to take to start a business. but just Basically, it was like, can I rent this room? And then I got everything I needed and just I just started. and then I did the like legal things like, you know, and this number and like all of that. but You know what, though? i mean, Tiffany and I are very much that way, too. And I believe so strongly in just doing the damn thing and not overthinking it. And i don't know. i love your courage to just go for it. Like you see something or you feel something and you just decide and you do it. And you know what? Is there really an order of how to do things in life? We want to believe that there is, but I'm just not so sure that there is And um I'm really loving this energy from you. Like you just do it. I'm the same way. I'm like, this is, an and Tiff, and that's how this podcast started too. And so i I love this energy about you. And I i hope that our, um whoever's listening feels really inspired to be like, you know what? Maybe I should just like do it. You should.
00:39:43
Speaker
You should just go for it. You should. go for it. The clarity comes along the way, but it really does. say yeah You have to take that action first. And the action is usually always messy.
00:39:54
Speaker
Love it too. All right, Haley, how would you describe the version of you who started versus the version of you practicing now?
00:40:05
Speaker
I was, i think I was really, hmm, oh, that's a good question. I was going to say I was really scared of everything, but, like, I was, but I still, you know, still did the damn thing. yeah yeah um The version of me got started compared to who I am.
00:40:27
Speaker
I think it's the same like thing, like just structure. the structure sure it was I was so structured back then and now I'm just more like free-flowing and listening to people's energy and um leading that way and leading with my heart and not worrying so much about...
00:40:56
Speaker
like money and like, and working so hard at like getting my hours in and and making the money and and all of that, you know? i feel like now it's more of like, how much can i impact people's lives?
00:41:11
Speaker
Oh, mic drop. Seriously. Yes, seriously. We're such believers in that too. I think that when you're really following your heart and leading with your heart and you're just like, hey, this is what I'm called to do, the abundance will come, you know, and you really don't need to worry about that. It's um'm such a beautiful thing to experience.
00:41:34
Speaker
Really? So, well, let's get into this spirituality in your practice. What does spirituality actually mean to you outside of trends or labels?
00:41:49
Speaker
I think spirituality is really about being present and being in alignment with nature being
00:42:03
Speaker
yourself like like listening to yourself and not looking for an outside validation I guess and just honestly like the biggest thing is really really just being in alignment with nature being present because we all go through cycles we all go through um like changes and I think we really need to honor that like the seasons you know Yes.
00:42:29
Speaker
So much. That beautiful. Yeah. So how does your spirituality show up in the treatment room in subtle or, you know, practical ways? Like what does that look like for you? How does that show up?
00:42:43
Speaker
Well, again, like going off of people's energy, um i really try to pay attention to if they're open to having like energy work done. And when they are, like it's crazy life changing.
00:42:59
Speaker
um There's been so i could probably we could probably do a whole podcast on. uh like reiki stories and let's do it we should say less I'll send you dates yeah I've had are you guys still there yes did you get a call sorry I was getting a phone call um um where was I going yeah so the yeah so the
00:43:32
Speaker
The energy work is just like crazy. And um sorry, can you ask me the question again? Yeah. So the question was, how does the spirituality show up in your treatment room? Which, you know, I think it does kind of go back to you being able to tune into the energy of somebody. And then also, then you are saying you can, you want to kind of gauge the energy of the person. Like, is there an openness to having some energy work done? And yeah. So do you have that conversation? Yeah. Like, so because I am certified and trained in Reiki, I'm able to like pick up and this is just intuition, honestly, like ah you don't have to be trained in Reiki or anything like that to like pick up on people's energy. um
00:44:23
Speaker
But if someone's coming to me for a facial or a massage, And like there's usually like a heaviness, you know, to them because just life and um getting a facial and getting a massage or any kind of relaxation service.
00:44:42
Speaker
That's a huge reason of why they're coming, right? It's to relax. So usually there is kind of like a heaviness to them when they first walk in. um But if I do pick up on something like, okay, like their solar plexus is blocked or like they need some clearing in their heart chakra. um I you will usually ask them, like, I'm just, I'll mention, you know, I'm not sure if you know, but i do energy healing and I'm just picking up on a little bit of heaviness in your heart chakra. Are you okay with it? If I clear that while I'm doing
00:45:18
Speaker
Like your decollete massage or like whatever. um So that's kind of like how it shows up for like facials and stuff. When I'm doing specifically Reiki, it's...
00:45:31
Speaker
yeah like there's a it can get pretty crazy sometimes like there's I have visions and I like the lights flicker sometimes like just yeah so um it shows up in different ways and there's a lot of like emotional releasing and yeah Okay, so I have a practical question about this. um Do you have on your menu like a facial with Reiki? Like people know that they're booking this or you just literally incorporating it because it's who you are and it's not like it would be an extra charge or anything like that?
00:46:11
Speaker
Um, so I have a specific facial that's called the goddess facial. And that one does incorporate Reiki, crystal healing, sound therapy, and then of course, like everything in a facial. Sign me yeah I know. I'm like, I need two of me so I can. Yes, you do. Um, but if it's.
00:46:35
Speaker
I don't want to say my regular clients, but if like the people that are used to me and and to know what I do, then i'll be like, you know, I'm just going to like clear your root chakra here a little bit. um And I don't charge for that. Like if it's just because I just I can't not. Yeah. You know, it's like someone going to get an oil change and their tire is low. You're not going to like ignore the low tire. Right. So I love that. It makes sense. Yeah, it would really be hard not to when you are that tuned in and you just love what you do so much and you love people so much, you know, um so that makes a lot of sense. But I do love that you have that whole cool facial on your menu too. That sounds incredible.
00:47:19
Speaker
Um, okay. Are there rituals, intentions, or energetic practices you use before or after working with clients? This is something that we love to talk to estheticians about because there is so much energy transfer. So could you share any, you know, before or after rituals that you do to keep that energy more clear?
00:47:39
Speaker
Definitely smudging. um Sage is very popular I'm from gotten it grows wild a little bit here and there. Secret spots that like not a lot of people know about. But you're not going to share. yeah um And so smudging definitely is like my number one thing ah before and after like before someone even enters the room.
00:48:08
Speaker
And while they're actually, like, in the bed, i'll do I'll always ask if it's okay if I smudge them. And then that's also like, a you know, it really calms the person down.
00:48:20
Speaker
it it helps release negative energy, but it it's so grounding. um So that's one thing that I definitely do. And then i love to read cards for people. Like, you know, it's just one card after their service.
00:48:37
Speaker
um It's just, okay, so Oracle cards are so easy. you guys, I'm sure. Oh, yeah. I'm an Oracle card girly. Yeah. yeah So tarot I haven't really gotten into. I feel like it's a little bit more complicated. yeah But um Oracle cards are so easy. Like you literally just it's just a quick little card. So that's something that everyone can do if they're spiritualists. It's like just a quick little.
00:49:04
Speaker
card of the day you know to close off a facial like that's such a vibe and then smudging or like palo santo i use sage and like i said and uh or like there's different cedar like there's different uh things that you can smudge with it's just what aligns with you i guess but yeah yeah yeah those are the two things that i like to do Oh, yes. I really love to hear that. Have you ever felt guided, intuitive or led during a session? And what did that look like? I mean, i already know that the answer is yes. Is there maybe one particular session or a person or experience that comes to mind for you where it just really had like a huge impact on both of you probably? Yeah.
00:49:53
Speaker
You're like, this happens every day. yeah Yeah. I'm trying to think of like one specific session or one specific treatment. um I am always like it took time to really trust my intuition and like not like.
00:50:09
Speaker
think to myself, like, am I crazy? Or is this really a message coming through for this person? But I've really, really learned to trust my intuition. And the the more you trust your intuition, the stronger it gets, right? So I've learned to just say it, say what's coming to you know my mind, what the message is for the person. But this one time, um there was no one else at the spa. was just me and my client.
00:50:38
Speaker
And she got the goddess facial. So um ah finished clearing her chakras and doing all that.
00:50:50
Speaker
And then I just had this like urge for her to like scream. Like she did. And it was like the most...
00:51:01
Speaker
Oh, like I just felt I could still feel her energy, like her whole like everything shifted. Like it was just like there's so much stuck in her throat chakra and her solar plexus. Like it was all throughout. And it was like, I think she screamed like three times.
00:51:19
Speaker
And wait, how how did you prompt her? What did you say? Wow. i said I actually screamed with her too. Like I was like, okay, you know what? um This is what I think we need to do because there's, I've had already did the things that I was, you know, called to do. And I said, I think that we need to scream.
00:51:41
Speaker
And so it took like, Probably, yeah, like three or four times. And as soon as she had that last scream, she just like the tears, like just like yeah relief. Like, my gosh. So, yeah but Okay, so i have a I have a funny question because I know you spend a lot of time in the mountains. Do you ever go into the mountains and scream?
00:52:10
Speaker
um Okay, so there's there's not only really a lot of mountains, but there's trees around me. Okay. Lots of trees, and there but there is, like, this kind of, like, hill. It's a really it's really hard place to get to, um but...
00:52:28
Speaker
I can't remember if it was last year. No, it was the year before New Year's Day. We had barely any snow. And I don't know if you guys know, but we have a lot of snow where I live. And i went to this mountain hill thing and I scream and I scream and I screamed and then I started laughing and it was just like such a relief um and then sometimes yeah I'll just go in the bush and just like rage scream like it's like you know because that's how sometimes that's how energy needs to be moved like you have to
00:53:07
Speaker
There's different ways. It's not just like lighting a little Palo Santo and like, you know, going on with your day. Sometimes you need to scream. Sometimes you need to cry. Sometimes you need to dance. Sometimes you need to like have an orgasm. There's different ways to move energy. Yeah.
00:53:27
Speaker
But yeah, screaming great. Yes. I love this so much. So here's a really big question that I have. um How do i Okay. So what do people misunderstand about spirituality in this work? And have you ever felt misunderstood? Like, have you ever...
00:53:44
Speaker
I mean, you're you're very courageous, but have you ever questioned it or felt judged or feel like people are misunderstanding what's happening? Or, you know, and another piece of this question that I would add is you are in a really small community. So are people in your community really open to this, like in general? Or have you, I mean, what what has that really been like? And this is really one of my biggest questions for you. Okay.
00:54:11
Speaker
So... um
00:54:16
Speaker
I've had a lot of... Not a lot. like I feel like, yes, I am a very like courageous person and I do... um I try not to... like let people's judgment or anything kind of affect what I'm doing, which is hard, really hard, right? Like it's something that you have to like work on. Um, but most of the time, like people are just worried about themselves and what they're doing.
00:54:43
Speaker
Um, but where I live, so there's the town and then half of the community is a reserve. What, um,
00:54:56
Speaker
um like Aboriginal people. And so a lot of the practices here are like Aboriginal practices, right? Going to, do you guys know what a sweat lodge is?
00:55:10
Speaker
do. Have you heard of that? Okay. think So okay so um doing that to heal and doing like what i do kind of sometimes comes across as like witchy right like yeah like witchy right but the bottom line is that we have the same philosophy working with nature um working with energy releasing negative energy all that right so i think i've really um been almost like uh
00:55:49
Speaker
a bridge between the two, like working, because i I work with medicine men, I've gone to sweat lodges, I've worked with, you know, the reserve and have helped, I've actually went to, i do contract work at the reserve in the health center, so it's basically like kind of like a, like a kind of a hospital, I guess, and I do Reiki and massage there for the elders and for people like that are really sick, um so they've gotten,
00:56:19
Speaker
People have gotten used to I think, what I do, but it's really hard to um
00:56:31
Speaker
not convince. Well, I guess, yeah, like convince people that it's like, it's not like I'm not a witch, you know? Like sometimes my friends call me witch and it's like funny. Yeah. um But it's not like, it's just that... um um reputation, I guess, of like, witch is like bad, like, oh, she's gonna cast a spell and gonna like, you know, like all these things. And my brother always is always teasing me like,
00:57:02
Speaker
you know, like, oh, are you doing your witchy shit again? Like, but but just oh my god um And they always are like and saying I'm in a cult and like just stupid stuff like that. But I i learned to like brush it off, ah obviously, because they're like joking, like my brother.
00:57:25
Speaker
um But i think that's the hardest thing where I live is just kind of not taking away from the traditional Aboriginal teachings, but working with and having like a different perspective um and like kind of bridging the gap, right? Like, um and coming together and it's the same, it's the same practices. It's just...
00:57:55
Speaker
kind of different, like, origins, I guess, like, because um Reiki originates in Japan, but it's all the same teachings, philosophy, right, like, it's working with nature, working with the animal spirits, like, all of that, so,
00:58:14
Speaker
But yeah, that's been kind of challenging. Yeah, that makes sense. Now, what about, so here's ah another part of that question. Do you feel like on social media that you, do you just lean so hard into this and you're like, this is just who I am, like that on authenticity part of you? Or do you ever wonder if people on social media, like other estheticians are maybe judging and watching you and being like, what the hell is she doing?
00:58:39
Speaker
Oh yeah, every day. Okay, I always wonder that. Every day, like, that authenticity is something that I've always... Not always struggled with, but, like, only when, um like, I'm looking at at other people and comparing myself to them um has been really challenging, like... um But it's also...
00:59:02
Speaker
so much fun being me So, yeah. So, but it's definitely, cause it, it almost feels like I have to like prove myself. Like I know what I'm doing spiritually, like energetically and all this stuff. Like sometimes it that's what it feels like. It's like, I have to like prove like, ah you know,
00:59:29
Speaker
that I'm actually like, I actually know what I'm doing. um But my clients know, and that's the only thing that really matters. But I do think having a social media presence and being authentic is like the most important, but hardest thing really like, you know, so yeah.
00:59:51
Speaker
I wouldn't guess that you felt that way based on your social media. Really? Yeah, not even a little bit. I'm, I'm a little bit surprised to hear you say that actually, because I feel like you definitely come across as really confident in your authenticity and your spirituality, but I can see, i mean, I get it. And that's why I'm asking the question. ah but yeah, I would never think that.
01:00:20
Speaker
Well, that's good. Cause I've worked, like I've worked hard on it. Um, obviously like I have days, right? Like everyone else, but you feel either really confident or you're like, should i even post that?
01:00:32
Speaker
Like, you know, yeah so it kind of comes and goes. Um, but thank you. i love You're welcome. I give that energy. Yeah, you do.
01:00:44
Speaker
Okay. Speaking of energy, let's talk about energy being present and then the client experience. So my first question here is how do you protect your own energy while still being deeply present with your clients? And to add on to that question and, or how do you like remain this, uh, open vessel for the energy that's needed for your clients to flow through?
01:01:08
Speaker
Okay. So, I feel like the most important thing that I've learned is we can't use our own energy to heal people.
01:01:21
Speaker
We have to, like we do in a way but we, I almost like, I want people to have the mindset of like, yes, you're a vessel. You're doing the actual work.
01:01:37
Speaker
But it comes from spirit. And if we are using our own energy, then we are going to first of all, we're going to project onto them.
01:01:49
Speaker
Second of all, we're going to get like drained. So to protect myself, i try to almost like visualize a light coming like from source into them.
01:02:07
Speaker
through like my hands or like whatever um or like from god like whatever i try to like tune into their um like beliefs or like oh i wonder you know what this person believes in and then i'll try to like kind of like uh that and channel it through whatever that energy is i guess but basically It's just being open enough two do the work, but not totally open to the point where you're, like, getting drained and giving your own energy away and taking on theirs. So it's it's hard.
01:02:51
Speaker
um It's something that I definitely had to, like, learn how to do And, you know, when I work with, like, I've worked with cancer patients. I've worked with... um Like, you know, people that are grieving, like it's hard to not internalize their like grief and and take on their and hurt.
01:03:12
Speaker
But um yeah, it's just something that you really have to practice and smudge yourself or like clear, literally like dust yourself off at the end of the day. That's a big thing that I like to do for myself to protect myself. But, um yeah, basically, that would be my biggest thing is don't use your own energy to heal people. Like, ah yeah, channel it from source.
01:03:41
Speaker
me Okay, i love that. What have you learned about energy exchange in this industry the hard way? Taking on other people's energy. Yeah.
01:03:53
Speaker
Yeah. thank yeah Oh my gosh. I've never been, I've had, I've heard so many stories about um like people getting hexed and people getting, you know, like sent bad juju or like whatever. Right. so um I haven't experienced that, but that is something that I've, you know, thought about. I,
01:04:27
Speaker
That's why I try not to use my own energy because i they aware yeah I've experienced, you know, like taking on other people's energy and it's just like like, oh, why do I feel like this? You know?
01:04:40
Speaker
And it's like, oh, this isn't mine, you know, and send it back to not send it back, but send it out to like universe or to the trees or like whatever, something that can actually deal with it.
01:04:52
Speaker
Mm-hmm. Yeah, that makes sense to me. Yeah. ah The next set of questions that i had have already been answered. So Tiff, let's move on to kind of the inner work ah questions that we have. Okay.
01:05:08
Speaker
Haley, how do you come back to yourself when you do feel disconnected or depleted? You kind of touched on that during COVID. Yeah. But that's probably something that still surfaces, I would imagine. I think it does for all estheticians and beauty professionals, in a sense.
01:05:23
Speaker
Yeah. um Well, like, life isn't linear, right? Like, we're always going through things and having our seasons, especially as women. Like, we go through our...
01:05:36
Speaker
intense cycles. And I think really paying attention cycle thinking has been a huge thing. um Like paying attention to like, okay, ah like when am i gonna be in my luteal phase? When am I gonna be, you know, all all of those things play a huge role in your energy.
01:05:58
Speaker
and I think um paying attention to that really helps because you're going to know kind of how your energy is going to be but also there's unpredictable things that happen in life too right so I think the biggest thing for me is going into nature and like literally hugging trees to the ground myself and like uh yeah, give the trees will know what to do with it.
01:06:29
Speaker
The trees will know what to do with like get the, the heaviness, right? Like, so i like to just go and hug trees really oh or same amongst nature, like in general. Yeah.
01:06:45
Speaker
Same. I don't have a routine today about that. Yes. I know. Jess literally sent me a voice message. She's like, I'm going to go hug a tree. Yeah. Do you have a to a routine with that though? Or do you just feel when you're like feeling it, you just feel called and you're like, I'm going to go hug a tree. Or do you try and get out in nature like couple times a week?
01:07:05
Speaker
How's that look for you? Well, in the summertime and like the fall, I try to go in the morning time, go hug the trees. But it's like minus 40 here yeah in the wintertime some days. So yeah that's not going to happen every day. But when I'm feeling heavy and like just like need like a a release, that's when I'll go.
01:07:30
Speaker
But ah honestly, just working with the elements in general is like, you know, like asking people if I'm, like, really sad, then I'll work with the water element and I'll, like, have a bath and, like, just, like, um connect with the element of water. Like, I just kind of, it's something that you got got to kind of, like, learn um which elements to work with if people are into that. But, um yeah, my routine is basically I just...
01:08:04
Speaker
try to pay attention to what my spirit and energy needs and the main thing is hugging trees yeah yeah but it's always nature related for you yeah which I love yeah That's really cool, actually. That is a new concept for me to explore beyond the trees. Yeah, I've never actually considered yeah working with the other elements. So really quick, in a nutshell, water is like sad.
01:08:31
Speaker
What's fire? What's wind? What are the other... Fire to me is like ignition. like igniting like When I'm not feeling motivated, I will like light a candle and do like some... um uh, like, fire gazing, flame gazing, whatever, and um...
01:08:56
Speaker
Or like I'll burn something like like a piece of paper if I'm like trying to manifest something or whatever, I'll safely burn it to like outside or however. um So that's to me, that's like igniting and working with or working with the sun too. That's the same, like it kind of gives me the same ah energy, which is like ignition and motivation.
01:09:24
Speaker
And then air is, to me, that's like clearing my mind, like working with, because that's, you know, your head is ah like all in the mind, like as if it's like in the sky. i don't know if that makes sense, but like clearing your mind and letting the air clear your mind.
01:09:42
Speaker
um So when it's not freezing out, I like to go outside on a windy day and like just like let the air clear my mind. yeah.
01:09:54
Speaker
yeah these are home concepts and then and then again like earth um the trees that's that's for grounding that's what I like to think of as um grounding and A lot of the times my clients aren't very grounded. And so I always like to do a quick little meditation with them, imagining them as trees.
01:10:24
Speaker
And a lot of times we are in our heads, right? and We forget we have a body too. um So doing a quick little meditation and visualizing yourself as a tree and breathing down into like the bottoms of your feet and visualizing roots coming out and spreading those roots and getting grounded and being stable. Because if those roots aren't ah
01:10:56
Speaker
grounded and they're not strong, and we're only just in our heads, then we're just going to fall over. We're not going to be strong, right? So um I like to work with the earth and and ah the trees to like ground myself and remember that you got to stay grounded or else you'll fall down. Guilty. It's It's over.
01:11:24
Speaker
yeah It's beautiful. That is really beautiful. Let's talk client transformation. can you share a moment in the treatment room that felt sacred, emotional, or transformative? I mean, the screaming was like a very, very good one, i guess. Is there anything else that comes to mind? Or here's another good question. How do you hold space when clients do release emotion or open up unexpectedly? You know what? Let's answer that question question since I think we have answered the previous one. How do you hold space when clients release emotion or open up unexpectedly? Or is it really unexpected for you because you are so tuned into people? Is there, do you kind of anticipate this happening sometimes? Cause you can just feel it on them. Yeah. Um,
01:12:13
Speaker
Yeah, usually people... It's common for people to try and... and Anger even to come up when I'm doing Reiki and stuff. So I'll just let them. Like, I'll just be there because...
01:12:28
Speaker
people need to feel that and let it like let the release happen. Like a lot of the times we're like, Oh my God, I'm so sorry. Like while we're crying, like, Oh, I'm sorry. Like, you know, and and, we kind of stop ourselves. Yeah. And so normally I'll like, I'll just let them, I'll just let them release. I'll, you know, I'll give them a Kleenex. I'll put my hand on their shoulder or, you know, just,
01:12:53
Speaker
make it known that it's okay and it's it's it's safe. And yeah, that's kind of how I... that I really like that actually. In fact, yesterday we were having a conversation in our new mastermind group. And one of the questions was, what do i do when a client just like, won't stop talking and they're like unloading. And we kind of said the same thing. We were like, you just, you let people because it's, it is such a safe space and there is so much energetic transfer. And Tiffany said, like, it's an honor that they feel safe enough with you to do that and let them release. yeah,
01:13:31
Speaker
ah Being able to release those emotions and those thoughts is so important. And so I love that you are saying this, let let people release it. But then I think that was also important for us to hear, to not apologize. If you start to get emotional, don't be apologetic about it. Just let that flow through you and come out. Or when you're angry, you know being being able to express it without holding back or feeling apologetic is really powerful for all women to hear. Yeah.
01:14:05
Speaker
okay so i'm so glad that you said that yeah it almost um like gives when you let yourself feel your emotions i feel it gives people permission to feel their emotions 100 like it makes them more comfortable yeah and emotions are just energy in motion i like i've heard that once and i was like yeah that's Yeah, exactly. they They really do have to pass through you. And it is a hard lesson to um have to learn when you don't. So, you know, i think that a lot of people don't really understand that when those when that energy is stuck, and when you're not expressing your emotions, what that will actually do to your body and to your nervous system. And like, It will sneak up on you, you know, and so I've i've been a lot that way with people lately too. I'm like, let it out.
01:15:04
Speaker
Let it out. Like, this is great. Say what you need to say. Cry, express yourself, just do it, you know, because the effects of not doing we'll sneak up on you later, you know, and that can even cause like sickness and disease in the body if if we can't just let our emotions come through. So yeah, it's, it's something that I hope, um, yeah I think because our world is becoming more spiritual and like more in tune and there's just a lot more acceptance of that and exploration of that. I actually do think that experiencing your emotions can be a big part of that. yeah If that makes sense. For sure.
01:15:39
Speaker
Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah. And I've witnessed it. Like, I've had people come in and they're like, Oh, my hips been sore for like, I've been struggling with this for three years. And I'm like, Well, what happened three years ago? well, dad died.
01:15:52
Speaker
Have you processed that? Yeah. No. Okay. Well, that's, that's like pain that's manifested from your grief and not processing your emotions. So that makes sense. can we sit here for just a minute and um i I wonder if a lot of people realize that when you have pain in a certain area of your body, typically you would want to ask yourself what ah chakra is connected with that part of your body. And then you can kind of figure out from there usually what like your hips is your sacral chakra, right? And...
01:16:32
Speaker
yeah That is connected to relationship. I think there's a lot to learn about chakras is what I'm trying to say. Like, you know, physically that can really show up. It's something that I've started learning about the last couple of years because it is so real and so fascinating.
01:16:52
Speaker
yeah there's so I don't even know all of it yet like it's never ending learning yeah process there's a lot to learn yeah yeah I was like there's yeah your shocker everything's connected yeah absolutely everything is connected yeah yeah and it will physically manifest for sure so yes what do you wish that clients understood about the depth of your work
01:17:23
Speaker
Or do you feel like most of them get it? I feel like most of them get it, but um to me, like, this isn't just surface level. Surface level is great.
01:17:34
Speaker
I love getting a manicure and, you know, like, having... um you know, getting my brows waxed and whatever. But it to me, I wanted it to be more than surface level. Like I wanted it to be deeper. I wanted people to experience healing and rejuvenation in like a deeper way.
01:17:59
Speaker
So I think that my clients have um learned that and and have experienced that. But I think that that was the message when I first started my business. Like, I want this to be more than just um come get your nails done, girl. Like, you know, like, or like, whatever. um So, yeah, that was kind of my message for, for my business and for my clients. And yeah.
01:18:31
Speaker
I feel like you've done a really good job with that message too. Absolutely. It is very clear, even with just like a quick glance at your social media, you already like know and feel that it's deeper, right? This isn't just skincare.
01:18:45
Speaker
Not that just skincare is bad at all. There's space for that as well, but you in particular... have just been able to present yourself with everything that you do on such a deep spiritual level and I love that so much let's talk about your leadership and your legacy so what do you hope other estheticians feel permission to do after hearing your story today don't listen to anyone else listen to yourself and go for it just do it um ask your friends so this is something that I thought of earlier before we got on here um
01:19:22
Speaker
you really want to think of how you want to leave um your mark on the world. um And if you're not sure of what that is, like you're not sure of where your strong points are and and like what makes you you, ask your friends.
01:19:40
Speaker
Like ask your friends, like what am I really good at? Like how do i make you feel? and go with that, like, let that be your philosophy, and, like, how you your aesthetics business, or how you do aesthetics, right, like, you want to make your friends feel, or you want to make your clients feel the same way you make your, your friends feel, right, because we're all, we're, you know, it's, it's kind of fun, like, we just get to make besties all the time, are being in the aesthetics industry yeah we have so many friends that we get to make along the way so um yeah I think like just trusting yourself don't compare yourself to others um people come to you because of who you are and be courageous and do the damn thing hell yeah yeah
01:20:42
Speaker
Yeah. hu Oh, that's such valuable advice. I love it. ah What kind of practitioner or woman do you hope this industry makes more room for?
01:20:56
Speaker
The spiritual estheticians. Yeah.
01:21:01
Speaker
Absolutely. Which again, it's just like, it's that feminine rising it's here and it's happening and the spirituality side of things. And it doesn't have to look a certain one way, but it's just, um, yeah, this industry is just, I don't know. I love it. It's shifting and I love it. And having you here today, haley just like opens that door for all of us that much wider, right? To just like step into with courage, like you said, and to have that permission to do things your way.
01:21:38
Speaker
Yes, I love it. um This was so much fun. we love it too we love it too we need to do another podcast on like animal spirit medicine or like leave stories that would be so much fun I literally really will send you dates today we'll just get you right back on our schedule absolutely conversation going yes is there anything before we wrap up anything else on your heart that you want to share with someone listening
01:22:13
Speaker
Hmm.
01:22:16
Speaker
Don't sweat the small stuff. And it's all small stuff. I okay i love that book. so okay I don't know why it just came to my mind. I never read it, but I remember listening to it eight years ago when I was going to school for aesthetics. And I'm like, you know what? Yeah. Like life isn't that serious. No. Like don't sweat the small stuff. Even the big stuff is like,
01:22:40
Speaker
not that big in the grand scheme of things. Right. So like, just have fun. And I seen two little foxes this morning, dropping my kids off at school. And that to me means like playful energy, unlocking your child, childlike energy and just having fun, you know? Yes.
01:22:59
Speaker
Yeah. I'm so glad you said that. I could not agree more. I love it. let's see. let's see o
01:23:12
Speaker
trying to think if there's any more questions that I want to dive into before we wrap up.
01:23:19
Speaker
I think I feel good. i think I feel good about where we're at. Tiffany, how do you feel? Is there anything else you want to ask? I mean, yes, I have a million other questions, but we'll save it for the next podcast. yeah But no, this was such a such an amazing conversation and we're so grateful for you, Haley. And um I think just extra grateful for you bringing in this energy and your spirit here for, uh, this podcast and our community and ourselves. Like I just feel re-inspired to, um, I don't know, just step more fully into my spiritual side as well and bring that into my practice for my clients as well. And so I'm super grateful.
01:24:01
Speaker
Thank you. um You're welcome. and I was so glad to be here. This was such a fun experience. And I can't wait for the next one. I know. We're really excited. Well, thank you, everybody, for joining us. Haley, real quick, can you just tell ah our community where they can find you? I'm usually on Instagram.
01:24:24
Speaker
I, my Instagram name is Enlightened Beauty by Haley. That's my business name. And I actually started a YouTube channel. It's not very ah big yet, but it's the spiritual esthetician on YouTube. Hell yeah. What are you going to share over there? What does that look like? um I think a...
01:24:45
Speaker
everything. Like, I want it to be a little bit of everything. i think lifestyle is important to share. Yeah. Because you know, that's how people get to know you. um and shock like chakra education um I'm gonna I have a couple videos coming up um on like facials facial videos and then actually my brother and i recorded a video of like um
01:25:19
Speaker
my journey as a teen mom because I was a teen mom. um Well, like, yeah, i I got pregnant when I was 14, which is like a crazy, like other... podcast even but basically like that video is going to be hi hilarious my brother was dying my hair as i was telling the story and he's so funny so anyway that video is going be going up soon hopefully as soon as I get it edited but yeah so YouTube
01:25:52
Speaker
The Spiritual Esthetician and Instagram, Enlightened Beauty by Haley. Do you have a link to the YouTube from your Instagram? Like, is it in your bio or do you have like a link tree? Is that easy to get to or should people just search for that on YouTube?
01:26:08
Speaker
No, I think it is linked in my bio. Okay. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. And we'll that in the show notes too. So, um, our community can go to it right from this episode, wherever they're streaming it from. I'm so excited. Check it out. And you just hear even more about your story. It's just fascinating to me. So I love that. I love that. It's just going to a little bit of everything. I think it is so, um, important to I don't know.
01:26:35
Speaker
It's just very, can be relatable and exciting. Absolutely. Well, hope that this episode really invited our listener to ask themselves how they're showing up in their work on a deeper level. You know, one thing that I've been talking about a lot lately is that we are in a position to heal and to empower people as estheticians. We're in such an intimate setting with them. And that looks so many different ways that basically just invites you to you know, be authentic and lead from a place of love. And so I love how that has ended up looking for you. um
01:27:16
Speaker
And so that is that is definitely one thing that I would invite our listener to to really think on and meditate on for sure. And you can find us on Instagram and TikTok at the beyond aesthetics. Is that our TikTok handle now? It is a line. yeah So they're both the same. Cool. And then you can find me at Jess guides, Estes also TikTok and Instagram. And where can they find you? Tiff.
01:27:41
Speaker
You can find me on all the social channels at sweet cheeks university. Easy. Everything matches now. It's taken us a while to get here, but here we are. And then we do have an email address. We always welcome emails. And that is just hello at beyondestheticscoaching.com. So Haley, thank you again for sharing your energy, your spirits, your your heart. I mean, the whole thing. This was amazing. We can't wait to have you back. And I hope that both of you have an amazing day today. We hope our listener has an amazing day and ah have pretty dreams. And we will see you on the next episode.
01:28:20
Speaker
Bye. Bye. by