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Ep 96: Cloak & Dagger
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Tying to our episode on E.T., Henry Thomas also stars in this 80s flick alongside the recently passed Dabny Coleman. A young boy and his imaginary friend end up on the run while in possession of a top-secret government spy gadget. Espionage, clandestine activities and covert actions abound in this 80s classic that Derrick has remastered on 4K... for some reason.
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Transcript
Introduction of Hosts
00:00:00
Speaker
Welcome back to Shipbird Month. This week, that's ET's best friend. I'm stepdad Mick Coleman. I'm the dead mom Whitney. I'm Jack Flack. And this is Bad Movies. Worst People.
Mom's Name and Movie Jokes
00:00:41
Speaker
We never did find out the mom's name, so. Deadsy. Deadsy. Dedra. yeah ah This is the second movie in a while we've done with somebody named Jack, and I don't like it. I don't like hearing my name being called, but it's somebody scolded. Last week was Chevy Chase was Jack. Felt like fucking Daisy. I mean, would you rather be Chevy Chase or Dabney Coleman? Dabney Coleman. Fucking every day of the week. That's America's ass. I have so many names that I'm just going to randomly call you now, and I'll see if you ever acknowledge that. Jack Flack, America's ass.
00:01:11
Speaker
No, I'm going to say Daphne. Rosalita. Rosalita. Maybe Captain Jack Flack.
Cloak and Dagger Discussion
00:01:19
Speaker
Well, this week, speaking of Jack Flack and all that heart attack stuff, we're doing 1984's Cloak and Dagger starring Henry Thomas of E.T. fame.
00:01:30
Speaker
He's also been in a bunch of stuff. Yeah, he's still acting. Well, legend of the fall we talked about for sure. I just mean, who cares compared to Dabney Coleman? I mean, I didn't even realize that Henry Thomas was still acting because he I mean, now that I know who he is, I can see Henry Thomas kid in him once. But as an adult, he looks a lot more like William Forsythe in fucking stone cold without the beer gut. Fuck you, pig.
00:01:55
Speaker
Like, because he was... Point of order. Bill Forsythe in this movie. Yes, yes Bill. Point of order. And when I got here, you said there's two surprise actors in this. And even watching the credits, I was like, oh, shit, Bill Forsythe. No, no, I know William Forsythe. And then he showed up. I was like, what the fuck is just going by Bill now? It's one of his first movies. His first, like, five credits are all it says as Bill Forsythe. And you even said, like, you can tell it's early because he's not a tough guy. Yeah.
00:02:22
Speaker
Like he is a fucking nerd. He hadn't found his ni niche. Yeah. ah But I mean, Henry Thomas still acting like obviously he was an E.T. Like I said, he was in a movie called The Quest. Not that one, Jack. Oh, God. I got really excited. We almost did it this month, but I didn't want to do three Henry Thomas movies.
00:02:39
Speaker
Also, it's a little more problematic and I want to watch it again before we just to see if it's an episode. It takes place in Australia. Of course it does. And that's why I own it. And it was also directed by the director who directed this, who is Australian. OK. So turns out I love Australia. But but you could never live there. It's not it's not the heat. It's the the bugs that will kill you. They're spiders. I don't have to go outside. Yeah, I'll go outside here. I live. I live 90 percent indoors. But it's it's called the quest. It's also known as frog dreaming. And it's him
The Quest and Cultural Issues
00:03:15
Speaker
and these little kids go on a quest through the woods to find something frog. I was going to say is frog dreaming like an acid trip or no. It's something to do with the aboriginals and like this area where they have these like shrines and they call it a frog dreaming. Well, make it make this feel bad. No, I still think they make this liquid toad. The reason I'm not sure if we could do it because I got to watch it again is
00:03:36
Speaker
There's a part where they're going on, they're starting to go on their little quest and he's talking about like, you know, the Aboriginals had this area and they built these shrines, whatever. And she's like, you mean the the little girl's like, you mean those black fellas? He's like, yeah, the black fellas. And I'm like, I mean, I don't think that's as problematic. There's more stuff. There's more stuff. But that's the that was that's in the first five minutes of the movie. I was like, the black fellas. Yeah. Black fellas. Are they going to kidnap us? I think that was one of the lines. I might worry. I mean, we we come.
00:04:05
Speaker
Easy now we come from a problematic country i understand but But like he he kept doing stuff like he he was unfortunately for him in psycho for the beginning playing Norman Bates Hey, yeah just trying to get a paycheck. Well psycho for yeah, what? Yeah, I have the box that you want to watch him Not tonight. I got all four of them. You do. Well, the second one, which is directed by the guy that directed this, whose name is Richard Franklin, by the way, and he passed away in 2007. He was only 58. Oh, man. But it's a good time to call call it quits, though, I think. Yeah, he directed. He directed. It's a good time to call it quits. He directed Psycho 2. Psycho 2 is actually pretty good. Psycho 3 is crazy, but it's actually it's also it's fun. It's not good.
00:04:52
Speaker
like So you're so you're you're putting it like to the same level of Jason in space. Like it's not good, but you had a fun time watching. You're not quite as dumb as Jason X, x but okay it's oh, Jason X. Yeah, you go. But ah ah what's this fuck work? Anthony Perkins is. Oh.
00:05:10
Speaker
But anyway, ah just to mention, because I'm already mentioning it, Henry Thomas kept acting. He was in Gangs of New York, ah which I didn't realize, because that's when I didn't recognize him. He plays. Oh, shit. He's one of those. Yeah, he's Johnny Seraco. He's ah ah Leonardo DiCaprio's friend when he comes back.
Dabney Coleman's Career
00:05:26
Speaker
And he like introduces him to Bill the Butcher and all that stuff. He ends up getting ah ends up getting ah like stabbed like with a pike or some shit. When we watched it, when you had me watch it with Whitney, um I even said, Elliot. Did you? yeah But also, yeah you don't need to know it always confused. It was just always confuses me when your wife named Whitney starts talking about it. She's like, you showed that to Whitney. I'm like, is she having a stroke? No, when when you and Whitney were hanging out, he was like recently in the fall of the House of Usher show on Netflix that she watched. I didn't. Oh, Wes was just talking. I glanced at it. We liked it. Yeah, it looked really cool. Yeah, that whoever did that, like, has a couple other movies out that are supposed to be pretty fucking banging.
00:06:07
Speaker
ah Yeah, it's ah the guy this guy's name is Mike Flanagan, the guy that directed most of that. Say it right, dude. ah Flanagan. Mike Flanagan. And ah Henry Thomas is in like all his movies, like Doctor Sleep, ah Gerald's Game, a bunch of other stuff. OK. Haunting Hill House or something like that. Yeah. One of those. That's that's the one we've got talking about this for.
00:06:27
Speaker
Yeah, so he's still working, which is cool for him. But this is like, as I mentioned, directed by Richard Franklin, who directed Psycho 2. He also directed a really great movie called Road Games that stars Stacey Keach and Jamie Lee Curtis. Dude, you have me as Stacey Keach. I'm not even joking. What the fuck is that? Titus' dad in the show, Titus, American History X. He's like the head Nazi with a hair lip. He's a big, gruff guy. I'm going to show you a picture of him.
00:06:54
Speaker
Because he is. Yeah, he's one of those much more masculine than his name. Lee John to be. Well, no, Stacey was a guy's name. Yeah. But like you hear Stacey Cage, then you see this guy and you're like, no, I guy's name is like friend or orphan. You'll definitely. I don't know if I should show her mustache or non mustache. Oh, yes, I do know who that is. I know exactly who that is. Yeah. Yeah, so Stacey Keach, if you don't know, is I mean, pretty much all around tough guy. He's got one cameo in Brooklyn Nine-Nine. Yeah. Where he's just like, I'm an old rough cop where we he used to chew tobacco and or chew cigarettes and swallow tobacco. But he's it's a movie where he plays like an American trucker in Australia and starts to figure out that there's a guy kidnapping girls on his like route.
00:07:35
Speaker
And so he wants to they use it's fucking crazy. Australia uses just fucking road trains. Have you seen this? No, it's it's not really. It's a semi that just pulls the most amount of trailers you've ever seen. It's insane to get to these just super remote places for for boredom. Look up road train Australia. It won't be a porn. I i think mostly. promise So I'm sure they're going mostly straight, not like a bunch of twists and turns. Yeah. It's just, it's like, if you're going to make this fucking trek, you're going to be like, what's your capacity? Cool. We're going to do exactly that. Yeah. And this was written by Tom Holland. Not that one. Spiderman? Not Spiderman. god he was wasnt because He wasn't even born for another 12 years. He wasn't even itching his daddy's pants. No.
00:08:17
Speaker
ah But Tom Holland wrote this, but he also wrote Psycho, too. That's where he worked with Richard Franklin. And then he wrote and directed ah ah a bunch of shit, a bunch of horror movies from the 80s and stuff ah and 90s. Fright Night, Child's Play, The Langoliers, Thinner. So he's also still doing stuff like that's what he does is like crazy. Like he had something on one of them streaming services. It was like Tom Holland's House of Murders or something like that. I think it was like a So he's a story. and He's a story to a creator. taga No election. Yeah, like whatever. You know, one of them, their things. Anthology, anthology, anthology. I said that. Yeah, no, I think both of us said it. If I'm not wrong, I think we both said it. We played the tape. I'm pretty sure we both started with saying it. So this guy didn't direct the quest. I was wrong. The reason I was thinking about that was because the guy who did the music for this did the music for the quest.
00:09:06
Speaker
He also did the music with Sean Claude. No, he also did the music for Mad Max and Road Warrior and Road Games. And have you ever seen what we called Steel Dawn with Patrick Swayze? No, it's like not. Should I? Maybe we were gonna probably. OK, it's like not cool Mad Max. Oh.
00:09:21
Speaker
Mad Max, but it's still got Patrick's due. You watch your fucking tongue. Thunderdome is over. Thunderdome is so trash. Yeah, it is. I was talking about Mad Max. Yeah, not Thunderdome. Mad Max is Mad Max is good. Road Warrior is amazing. Mad Max is it goes for me. It goes Fury Road, Mad Max, Road Warrior. Damn, Fury Road that high because you're not. He made a movie. He made a movie in 2015 with almost no CG.
00:09:49
Speaker
and actual cars and people hanging off poles and all that shit like it's I think it was above the bleeps don't like new movies and I don't like long sequels so I don't want to watch this movie I didn't want to watch fear rose a free road and both the bleeps like dude there's a new movie that just came out that's so fucking amazing we get we'll watch it again with you and it was that It's like that that's one that they took notice of. It is an amazing and the fact that you just said it's all practical stuff. It's like, yeah, that's why it fucking works. Yeah. yeah But so those are all the people who
Espionage in Cloak and Dagger
00:10:19
Speaker
made this movie. So how would you describe this movie? It's like a spy espionage thriller. it sthan big I might just I might just spoil my recommendations right now. This movie is fucking amazing. It's wild. It is little kids. but dude It should be so bad.
00:10:33
Speaker
Like, on paper, this movie should be so bad, but they're putting these kids in danger. This little girl's got a bomb in her backpack. This guy's got a gun. Dude, that bad guy literally threatens this child to his face. You have like a 35-year-old man telling you 11-year-old child. Are you talking about the end? Yeah. Dude, he says, because we're going to go all over, right? Yeah. He says, you're going to want me to kill you, but I'm going to shoot you in the knees, which is more pain than you'll ever experience in death. Then I'm going to shoot you right in the fucking stomach.
00:11:01
Speaker
you're gonna get thats And to just going to watch you. Is this PG? Yeah. But it's also pre PG-13. Yeah. So this is a hard PG-13 nowadays. dude Yeah. it's So it's a fucking child espionage thriller yeah with imaginary friends that may be real. So in the in the view interview that we watched,
00:11:24
Speaker
um He had said something along the lines of you can't write shit like this today. Oh, Tom Holland, the writer. Yeah. Because he's like, we didn't have school shootings and shit back then. He's like, you couldn't do this now. I still think you could. You would rate it different. He said something about you can't point a gun at some kid's head. And I'm like, I feel like I've seen that.
00:11:41
Speaker
I mean, you just got to have a rated R. Yeah, you can definitely do that. Yeah. But the movie was a bomb. I couldn't find the budget, but it made nine point seven million dollars in North America. It just wasn't with with Dabney. Sure. With Henry Thomas at this time.
00:11:58
Speaker
like two years after yeah he was headliner. I mean, Dabney Coleman, I personally love and we we all had something different. We knew him from you had. um I mean, I know him from like nine to four was the big one. I mean, war games, war games. And then you had five was mine. And then mine was the man with one red shoe. He's a storied actor with a bunch more than that. And he's all over the place. But I mean, I don't know if he's a household name for most people that don't watch bad movies. And we should mention Dabney Coleman did pass away this year as well.
00:12:27
Speaker
Rest in pictures, bud. Made it a fucking a long time. Yeah, he did. We talked off off air about ah him being in Boardwalk plot Empire playing the Commodore, and it's like it took you a minute to recognize him.
00:12:40
Speaker
because we know we knew him from this era, from from mid-80s was his time to shine. yeah And then all of a sudden, we're in the 2000s watching him. He was a much heavier, old guy. He's in a wheelchair, and he's still got the mustache. Yeah. He was in a wheelchair the whole time. Oh, that's right. He wasn't the whole time. He wasn't. he was He was young and virile at some point. Well, the flashbacks aren't him, obviously.
00:13:01
Speaker
because they don't have a time machine. Well, no, they they know they didn't have the same actor. Never mind. I remember the time he dyed his hair and yeah, they had a different actor playing him when they were doing like the flashback scene to when he like came to power because it was supposed to be like 40 years ago. Like we can't do that. He's not that good of an actor. What is this saw? We're just going to put him in a backwards hat.
00:13:21
Speaker
Did they do that? Yeah. They took Tobin Bell for a flashback and they just had him wearing a backward hat. What's up, dumb fellow Americans? Basically. Which... and Do you want to come play Pogs? Those are stupid movies, and that's dumb, but also respect. Yeah. I give a little bit of credit to that. We're not going to like de-age him like Jeff Bridges in Tron Legacy. Nah, we're just going to put a backwards hat on.
00:13:46
Speaker
Just make his jeans baggier. Just put give him a limp biscuit hoodie. to be fair To be fair, I don't think Twisted Pictures has the money for de-aging test technology. No, Disney barely has good enough money for that these days. There might be a reason that this movie didn't do well. I don't know. So when it first launched in the US,
00:14:07
Speaker
ah In July of 84, it was on a double bill at theaters with the Last Starfighter. And then it re-released on its own in August. So those numbers might be on its own. So maybe that didn't help the numbers. And then also people watched Last Starfighter and then this and maybe liked Last Starfighter more. I mean, I said I liked this movie Last Starfighter's better.
00:14:26
Speaker
I'm not sure. More enjoyable. I'm not sure. Ooh. It's been a while. It's been like three years since I've watched Last Star Fighter. Okay. You say a while
Comparing Last Starfighter
00:14:33
Speaker
and I was like, oh, like 15 years. No, it's been like three, four years. for good Three years is good. You get it though. You know. Don't ask me. I'm gonna. just not right It is a good movie. It is. So you'll watch Last Star Fighter and think this is a really good movie with the worst graphics that you can see now.
00:14:51
Speaker
Yeah, like they look slightly better than Power Rangers, but also 15 years before, but yeah. Oh, okay. So, you know, product of the time in a good way. That's not, what it? Fred Savage. It's not.
00:15:07
Speaker
What? Starfighter. I that's not the one with matt not Matthew Broderick. No, that's war games. I think in a Matthew Lillard and Freddie Prinze Jr. Oh, I don't know what I'm thinking. What's the one where they're like flying planes and Iron Eagle? Yeah.
00:15:23
Speaker
That is Gossett Junior. And is that Matthew Broderick in the first one and Iron Eagle? I don't know. It's been fucking a minute. Watch that. No, the star of Last Star Fighter is Lance Guest, of course. Uh huh. Uh huh. I don't know. I remember. It's like Richard. It's like a porn star. You got it the last second. He kind of looks like Richard Marx. He's got like the the brown, dark brown wavy mullet hair. According to IMDB, most known for the last starfighter and Jaws the Revenge. That's four. Oh, that's the one with Mario Van Peebles and Mako Kain. Mako Kain.
00:16:03
Speaker
OK, so let's go to this movie. Yeah, so the movie starts with kind of a fake out scene, right? Starts like a spy action adventure, which it is, but it's actually called in parachutes in with the most American flag parachute you've ever fucking seen. Yeah, it's supposed to be Russia and this guy comes in and he's literally his parachute is a whole ass American flag. It is the least subtle you've ever seen. But I did like the effect of the parachute pulling like Suck it up into the back of his shirt. Yeah. And then he like pretends to be a Russian and the Russians are like, oh, OK, cool. Well, he goes to smoke a cigarette and shoots the guy with a dart like with his little gadget. sick Oh, yeah. Right in the neck. And then what happened? And then there's like a chic and the yeah sexy lady coming to the party. He uses his Rolex to have turned into a buzzsaw.
00:16:52
Speaker
cuts that and then he, you know, dispatches of all the bad guys and the sexy ladies kind of staring at him and then she pulls a gun and he just has his beret right in front of him, reflects the bullets right back to her, yeah shot in the tit. Shot through the tit and you're too lame. You give bras a blood stain.
00:17:11
Speaker
um Yeah, it's a 22 she has, right? It could be a it could be one of those three eighties. It could be a twenty five. I didn't get a good enough look at it, but it it is a broad fit in her bra. It's a it could even be one of those little twenty two Derringers. That's how big your boobs are. You can fill all kinds of guns. I know. Whitney's got an AK forty seven in her bra right now. You want to see it? This is one of those belt fed machine guns. Why did you get the Gatling gun and the full liner in there?
00:17:42
Speaker
Dude, i what old manna I totally want little Derringers. The little the little guys are just right here. This is Arizona. They'd get all sweaty and quit working. Oh, yeah, it's true. You're going to want a Glock for that. um Oh, and we can't fail to mention. So Debney Coleman is playing two characters in this here. He's Jack Flack, a secret agent, Captain Jack Flack. And he's also playing ah Henry Thomas is dead. Colonel Thomas. Yeah, dead Thomas. Sure. Dave Thomas, lu Lieutenant, Lieutenant. OK.
00:18:11
Speaker
All right, all car. No, staff sergeant. There you go. And we also can't fail to mention that he was in Muppets in Muppets Take Manhattan. We can't fail that. Or Inspector Gadget. dude We can fail that one. We could have left that one behind, dude. He's rolling over in his grave right now because somebody mentioned him and Inspector Gadget. Good God. Oh, so, yeah, it cuts to from that. Well, these big fake dice start rolling at him. Yeah. Oh, yeah. These big 20s. Big 10s or 20s. They're 12s actually. They're 12s. 12s, yeah.
00:18:41
Speaker
Oh, because he rolled a twenty four. Twenty four, which is a great role. Yeah. On 212. Because his agility is twenty four. You had to roll a perfect fucking 212. It's a Nat 24, baby. And it cuts to Henry Thomas and this little girl, Kim. That's not fair. I died and you get to get Liv. I had nine more bullets than he had played by a little girl named Christina Nigri, maybe ah who was in some other stuff. But she pretty much quit acting in like 1993. And according to an inter honestly good for her. Well, according to an interview, I watched with Henry Thomas. She's a lawyer now. He's like and he literally said that he's like so good for her. She had a backup plan. Yeah, I think I think his inference there was I didn't. She didn't get eaten up by Hollywood. Yeah, he said they still talk to him. He said that we still get together. That's cool.
00:19:28
Speaker
It's called therapy. We get together. No, she's group therapies for child actors. Yeah, but Coley Culkin has Corey Hames not there anymore. ah She I said right away, she's competent. I mean, she's got good. I do love her presence to it. Her list is so good, but she's just she's not delivering lines. She's acting. And both of you had said the the casting agent. Yeah, the trade up was like, I don't fucking cast cute. Nope. I cast acting. She was pretty brutal in her interview. She was. She's just like, I don't give a shit if they're kids. Like, I don't care if they're cute. I want them to be able to act and they both pull it off. I mean, she has less to do. But Henry Thomas, I think does really good in this. He's got himself cry and shit. like Oh, yeah. It's got a couple of times conveying emotion as a child.
00:20:12
Speaker
I mean, he ah he had just watched that alien die a couple of years ago, so he just brings that back. I remember when I watched that little person
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00:20:19
Speaker
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00:20:39
Speaker
i Hey dad, I'm just gonna go to the dungeon for a couple hours and hang out with this fully grown man named Maurice and You're not a dope name for a game store though it is But it's weird to let your kids hang out at the game dungeon with eighty Bill Forsyth. It's in the it's in the mall I'm just saying like just because it was okay in the 80s doesn't mean it's okay And he's got these like uh bubble bubbles from fake bottle lenses oh trailer parlor park boys bubbles glasses that's what he's wearing his eyes are huge they are and this terrible wig uh-huh the beard looks real yeah well because he just didn't shave for two days
00:21:18
Speaker
what were We need you have a beard and say less. We just watch something and she's it's oh Lolita and she's like, oh, you look terrible. You need to say he's like, well, I haven't shaved since yesterday. A real man shaves twice a day. You know, 60s. I'm not a real man. I haven't shaved twice this fucking millennia. I was like, what if you shave twice in your life? Yeah, I know. You don't have an excuse, though. You had a dad that would have taught you how to shave.
00:21:43
Speaker
I have this at necessity. My dad had a beard. Oh, okay. His dad didn't teach him how to shave. But William Forsythe, a.k.a. Bill in this, we've seen on the show before, of course, Savage Dawn, one of our very first episodes. Yes, Stone Cold, one of my favorites. Yeah. And you got to go back to the archives for Savage Dawn on Patreon at patreon.com. I wasn't here for that.
00:22:05
Speaker
It's a good movie. It's not, but it's a fun movie. No, it was just me. It was the third episode. It was just me and Patrick. Dang. Oh, gee. Lance Henriksen and Bill Forsythe and George Kennedy. What? Yeah. So we got to watch it. Yeah, I have it. It's Blu-ray. It's actually I've got to watch that then. I will actually watch it also. We'll do it. We'll do an app on that again. We don't have to do enough. We can just watch it. they can be one of our anniversaries like we did uh taming the t-rex last year yeah yeah and i have a plan for leader this year already don't tell her
Reminiscing Past Episodes
00:22:37
Speaker
i already know it's gonna involve all right tell me it's gonna involve one of our previous guests it involves a previous guest
00:22:45
Speaker
From Canada. is and it has enough Is Ryan from Canada? And it has nothing to do with sharks. Nice. Yeah. Fuck. Yeah. And you're going to be very excited. OK. Actually, you might have been on the episode the first time we did it. I think you were. You were. That was your first episode. No. Yeah. now My first episode was Miami Connection. Yeah. Yeah. Boy. Oh, my father.
00:23:08
Speaker
ah yeah I have to do that movie with you guys. You get to motherfucker you don't have to you can sit that we're friends forever you can sit that one out of I think I think you need bleep on that you can't stand Yeah, I'm sure you can sit it out if you want to be shouldn't if you want to prepare I have a ninja I have the ah vinyl of the soundtrack of course I have a t-shirt that says Dragon Sound on it. are you too I too. All right. I'll wear two of them. Mine's red, so I don't wear it out of my house a lot. Oh, we have one of their shirts. Yeah. Nice. Classic or classy. Neither of those. Neither of those work. So they steal some walkie talkies from Bill Forsythe. He sends them on a mission to go get yeah fucking Twinkies. He's like there's a secret message in the keys. He doesn't. He doesn't get his Twinkies. They steal his walkie talkies. And spoiler alert, he gets shot in the face. Yeah. Worst friends ever. They steal a game.
00:23:58
Speaker
Oh, yeah. but Henry Thomas steals from him, too, like from the actual doesn't get his money back. Oh, yeah. Sorry. By the way, the whole time they're going to call this a tape. Oh, my God. Fuck you. It's an Atari cartridge. So this is clearly a case of the writer not having any idea what video games are. Uh huh. because it looks kind of like an eight track, right? Only once do we get I think it's thes at the very Thomas Henry Thomas. He's like, they have a cartridge of mine. Other than that, this is tape, tape, tape, tape. These are Atari 5200 games and which I didn't have. I had a 2600, but ah this game actually.
00:24:33
Speaker
So it came out on arcades. So this is a real game. Cloak and Dagger. Yeah. OK. But I don't think and it was like for this movie. I wonder because I think it's developed. Somebody made a game here. Yeah, I think the thing I was reading said it never ended up coming out on the 5200 because then there was the big video game crash. And oh, speaking of Atari and Henry Thomas because the E.T.
00:24:56
Speaker
Barry to eat the biggest failure of any video game ever. And also ah one of the least playable games ever made. Yeah, I remember I didn't play. I remember you no one watching. You can download an emulator now where people have fixed it and you can actually get out of that pit.
00:25:13
Speaker
That's that one that they sold or they they buried all the copies in a ah landfill in New Mexico or so. That was always so that was always a big rumor that they buried a bunch of the games and then somebody went and dug it up. And yeah, they buried thousands and thousands of copies of this in a landfill. So was it like a glitch in the making or they were like, ah no yeah, they rushed it out. they They gave. So I can't remember the exact numbers, but most video games took like a year or more to develop and they wanted this done in weeks.
00:25:43
Speaker
And somebody at Atari was like, yeah, we'll fucking do it today. Well, they definitely can't do it. Definitely not today. Back then, you had a better chance. You only had a team of like four people. I want eight bit shit. Yeah. You know, now it's a whole different fucking beast. But I don't know. I saw this game. Is it eight? It might not be eight. I don't think they're using the full eight.
00:26:03
Speaker
But either way, it was just a rush job where somebody at Atari was like, fuck yeah, dude, I'll i'll take that job on. We can do that. And they made a game that you couldn't play at a certain level. ah So they go on this mission to go to Textronics video game company. ah They ask this security guard who is RDA because he looks like the Spanish RDJ. He's definitely RDA.
00:26:28
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ah Where the games are where the company is and he's like, oh, yeah seventh floor go on up. Yeah, I don't mind you He's sneaking around the lobby with a gun the kid is dude I don't think the security guard sees it but he's got a fake gun very reminiscent of patreon episode of Airheads, I thought he was putting hot sauce in this little bird. No monster blood Yeah, fake blood, not as useful as hot sauce. Hot sauce, much more useful. He's in Texas, dude. He could get hot sauce. Okay, everyone over there, or I'm going to fucking stab you with my dick! This kid just gets raw right now. Calm down. Don't tell me to calm down. He sends Kim up on the elevator.
00:27:08
Speaker
Not with the two shady guys, because we see Alvarez in Haversham or something. Oh, I'm surprised you got Haversham. They say it like once. Yeah. Havershaw. I did recognize that actor and I had to look him up and said, obviously, I don't know the actor's name, but I knew what I recognized him from. He's a football player or was a football player. ah ah A guy named Tim Rossovich. I don't know who he played for. Not bringing up a name. I guess the Raiders. He looks mean. I was going to say the best.
00:27:34
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I recognized him from avenging Angel, which everybody knows. ah It's the second in a trilogy of my face. I mentioned Angel on one other episode because I got very excited. angel She's a prostitute yeah that ends up. Yeah. Yeah. You've mentioned that. I got very excited because I recognized the cowboy of the cowboy with the plastic guns.
00:27:53
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Uh-huh. This guy is like a goon in the second one. I think his name is like Willie Butts. I'm pretty sure he's the one who throws a little kid like a baby off like a third floor like ah walkway. He has the chance to do that in this movie. They throw a baby dummy off a walkway in that movie. and It's fucking amazing. It's great. Someone catches it. It's fine. All right.
00:28:15
Speaker
I know it's a dummy anyway. It's great, though. But so she's going up the elevator. This fucking guy. He's going up the stairs trying to be stealthy, but not bouncing a softball off the walls, slamming doors, point of order, a grenade. Correct. Because he throws to the little girl, he's like, take my grenade, and she throws it back like, I'm not going to be embarrassed by your little fucking baby shit games. She did tell him, don't embarrass me. And while he's talking about all this spy shit, she's like, this is what I meant. This is embarrassing. This right here is why you have no friends. This is why your mom left. We're only friends because I'm your neighbor. She's dead. Just kill yourself. Just kill yourself. She left. She fucking left on her own accord. She took the 22 out of no fucking nowhere smell. She waved slowly at him and then shot herself in the head.
00:29:01
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She took those midnight pills. But apparently, the building across from this building has a mirror at every stop on the walkway. Yeah, I was with you. I think it's just a mirror in the hallway. No, no, because he sees upstairs what's happening. Yeah, it's reflections. He's looking at the building across the way. It's like they just have reflective windows. I don't think it's across the way. It is. He's looking out the window at a mirror with a reflective window. Because that's how he sees this do get killed. I thought it was in the hallway. No, I thought so. Dude, for a second, I was like, OK, he's looking across the building and he's watching this murder. And then all of a sudden, the guy that gets shot by these ruffians comes out of the door right above him. It's like, what the fuck? And that's I mean, it's partially on the movie, but it's also partially on us because they do have him when he first gets to the first flight of stairs, he sees himself in the reflection and like hides and like pretends to shoot like he's doing spy shit. Yeah, it's on us. But it's also just a very confusing thing as a city to have that many like, what are you doing? Just mirroring up that building. They really want to reflect light into the passing drivers. We have a building like that. We have buildings like that downtown. Well, yeah, I guess you're trying to keep the heat out. It's San Antonio, dude. True. Hey, guys, after this episode, I really kind of want to go out and get a beer. What are you thinking? I mean, OK, look, the thing is, I deal with beer so much in my life, I want something else. I'm fine with beer, but I want like a stiff cocktail or a nice glass of whiskey. You know.
00:30:24
Speaker
The music box is just down the way and you can get an awesome cocktail or they even have like tombstone and other great beers on tap. The music box, where would I find that? Oh, you mean the music box at 6951 East 22nd Street in yeah Tucson, Arizona. Right down there at 22nd and Cole. Yeah, they've got a great selection of whiskey, gin, tequila, mezcal, other spirits.
00:30:43
Speaker
Ooh, sometimes they have, like, pudding shots and jello shots. You're putting me on. And depending on the night of the week, we can get karaoke, live music. It's great. Ooh, Unhappy Hour on, oh, it's Wednesday. It's Unhappy Hour. Yeah. I'm in. You guys are selling me. Let's go to the Music Box Lounge right now. Let's go. Sharks of the Corn, Vira Shark, Cocaine Shark, Shark-topus.
00:31:11
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Yeah. Those are all real movies. Join me, Steve Coates, as each week, I take a comedic look at the bizarre world of Shark Exploitation Cinema on Bucket of Chump, the Shark Movie Podcast.
Jack Flack's Character and Scenes
00:31:27
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So this is when we have imaginary Dabney Coleman show up, Jack Flack. He just appears up of these buns. Is that America's ass? America's ass. And he's talking to Davey when Davey notices these goons beating up the scientists and shooting him. The guy comes out and gives him this game cartridge for a broken dagger. And he says one million three hundred twenty nine thousand five hundred and forty two.
00:31:53
Speaker
And then he dies. What would happen if you went over that score? like I think when we might reach that score. Gotcha. It stops. But wouldn't it be great if you're like one point off and all of a sudden you did something that got you like four points like, oh, damn it. Start over. And then do they throw this guy? They throw this guy off, right? Yeah, they throw this guy down. where We get a dummy. But yeah, fucking show the dummy enough. Now, this is why this movie is not five star. So it might be that they know it looks like a dummy, but also it might be because it's a kid's. It's a PG. They do show the dummy like at the bottom or the dead guy at the bottom. But we don't see them hit you all the way. This is an American psycho. Yeah. Just holding the chainsaw waiting for that girl to get to the bottom. We don't see that. Bummer. And he gets down there and tells the security guard that there's some people murdered a dude. They go back. Body's gone. Bum, bum, bum, bum, bum. Why are you lying, kid? And we all know there'd be so much fucking blood, guts, and ass here. Seriously, it went seven floors. Yeah, seven fucking floors. There is, with shit himself. The dummy does hit one of the rails. No, but it cuts right as he's sitting. I want to see him ping pong, dude. Right? Please?
00:33:04
Speaker
And then the best part of cinema. This other guy comes down dressed like a scientist, but turns out he's not. He's one of these goons. i His name is Rice in the movie. He's played by a guy named Michael Murphy. Welcome back. He played the mayor in Batman Returns. So we've had him on the show before. He's also one of the three human characters. well I guess there's four, but three main characters in a movie that I have over here that is a highly recommended movie called Phase Four, where ants get hyper intelligent and take over the planet.
00:33:34
Speaker
Not where I thought that was going. And it's not what you're thinking. Like it's not giant monster ants or anything. It's fucking it's actually it's really good. But he's the young guy. There's an old man. There's an old priest, a young priest. And he's old ants and a young ant. And there's a girl that they find in this desert and then they're all in this like geodesic dome and they're being assaulted by hyper intelligent ants.
00:33:56
Speaker
OK, so your personal hell. And it ends with like a 2001 esque like Space Baby sequence. OK. Yeah, it's awesome. Sounds worth watching. So they they ah this cop takes Davey and Kim home. Kim, I mean, they do watch her go into the gate like the cop watches her go, which is more than you would expect from a movie. Well, she had to unlock it with a key.
00:34:18
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But it's still like, all right, little girl, go on. It's the middle of the night. You're fine. Yeah, just go on your own. Move on. ah I'm going to assume you're OK. And he takes Davey to his door. Door opens. It's Dabney Coleman again. But he's Davey's dad. This cop, Lieutenant Fleming, is played by Robert Decoy, maybe. Doki. Who knows? Doki is V-O-Q o-U-I.
00:34:41
Speaker
Yeah, ah but you recognize it. I recognize the way better night. I recognize his voice, even though he's not doing the exact thing he does in those movies. But he plays the ah Sergeant Reed, Sergeant Reed, I believe. Sounds right. In charge of the police department in all three Robocop movies. Yeah. So because, you know, you've got to have a black chief. Exactly. And he's got to be yelling. That's how you know it's a cop movie. And Jack mentioned that while we were watching this. He's like, well, he's not yelling. I'm like, well, he's only a lieutenant right now. He hasn't got that promotion. He goes from San Antonio. He goes then he goes over there and he gets fucking he gets like great honors in Detroit. He gets transferred to Detroit. ah What's the company called O.C.. O.C. OCP ah buys the police department. He's down with OCP. Yeah, you know me. You know D'Qui. I wish his name was D'Qui. It's not. I don't know. The internet told me Doki, and that sounds wrong. Yeah. I don't know enough to argue with the internet, though. Neither do I. and that he has In that, he's credited with an apostrophe in there. It's like D-O apostrophe. So I feel like it's got to be something different. But anyway, it doesn't matter, because he's in the two scenes of this movie.
00:35:47
Speaker
But he's bringing him home and he's telling the dad like, hey, so your kid said there was a murder. So we got called. He kind of started some shit. ah Do you want to take him out to the woodshed or do you want me to? Look, your kid needs to get beat. OK, I'm not saying who wants to do it. I'm just saying I would love to. I mean, I will do it. It's the 80s. Anybody can hit your kid. Yeah. Why are you hitting my kid? He had the cops called to it and say no more. Why are you hitting my kid? He lied to me. Snarky, sass. And they have this like heartfelt talk. ah Dabney Coleman and Henry Thomas do about
00:36:26
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like he's He's telling him what happened and he's like, well, if mom was here, she'd believe me. She probably would. And it's good because Dabney Coleman, it's gruff 80s parenting. I love this line. But it's not bad. I'm his mom and he's like, yeah, I miss her too, but she's not coming back. She's not here and she's not going to be here. Yeah. Like the way you say that, that's harsh, but also You gar got to understand it, kid. We don't know how long Mom's been dead. Well, I get the feeling this is not the first conversation. Yeah. Because this is not how you say it the first time. No. This isn't like, hey, where's Mom? Oh, she went to the hospital. She died. She's not coming back. She'll never fucking be here again. Time to toughen up, go get a job as a coal miner, or work in the fucking steel mill, and suck it up. Well, can I sleep with you tonight? No. Take a cigar and fall asleep on the couch like a man.
00:37:13
Speaker
Here's a whiskey and a cigar. Go watch the Bears until the national anthem comes on. it says this is No, it's San Antonio. Go watch the Spurs. Watch the fucking Cowboys root for Troy Aikman and shut the fuck up. Was Troy Aikman a thing in the 80s? Not here. OK. Not 85. And Jerry Jones, we trust. All right, son, you think Jerry Jones and you go to bed. So he's trying to prove to his dad. If I say Jerry Jones again, Amber's going to come out and yell at me.
00:37:40
Speaker
Is he racist? He's the owner of the Cowboys, and he's terrible. Oh, okay. Oh, because she loves the Cowboys. Yeah. Dumb. Yeah, dumb indeed. I don't even sports. I know that's dumb. I hope she's listening to this right now.
00:37:52
Speaker
Your fandom is a fucking sham, the shamdom. So he's wants to prove to his dad that this cloak and dagger cartridge has some kind of secrets in it. A point of order tape. So he starts playing it. I'm not saying tape. I know, I'm not going to do it here. He starts playing it and dad watches him play like two levels and he's like, all right, this is enough of this shit. Shut it off. Well, because he's not explaining it well. He's like, the guy said numbers, like what numbers? Like, I don't know, some numbers. And he just did. Look dad, I just got to get to a million points. Just hold on a minute. Wait, wait, wait. I got to eat a cherry, a banana. It only took that kid like nine minutes from the wizard to get to 40,000 on Double Dragon. Well, he's fucking, he's the wizard. He's the wizard, dude. Okay, split hairs here.
00:38:35
Speaker
but no it's like he starts playing it for almost like fun you know yeah and the dad's like what are you doing he's like i don't know let me let me just get to the next level oh come on dad come on one more level he gets super like how many times did you say one more level and then get in trouble i've said it last night just to myself well tell me to your parents though you say it to yourself does it matter if you disappoint yourself all the time Well, back then it was even more important. It was like, there's no save. Yeah. Now it's like, hey, Derek, hit fucking pause, save it, and you'll come back to Starfield tomorrow. Okay, guy? But back then, it was like, I have to beat Mario tonight.
00:39:10
Speaker
Because if I hit pause, well, because the first game with a save feature was Legend of Zelda on the n NES. That wasn't until the later 80s. And that was also kind of not only the first, but an only. Yeah, like there wasn't there wasn't many after that. And the great thing about that is if you have one of those, your save game is gone. ah That save worked because there was a battery in that thing. Yep. And guess what? You can't replace. Yeah. How do you how do you open that cartridge? Ask fucking Billy Forsyth. Ask these guys. Yeah, apparently the screwdriver.
00:39:38
Speaker
That might be true, actually. That microchip's not supposed to be there. Also, I didn't think they had screwdrivers right there. Yeah, Bill Forsythe did. He had his... ah I'm going with Bill. No, you mean you mean in the cartridge? Yeah. Oh, i yeah I've never tried to take one apart. Oh, I would mean... I don't know. A cartridge might as well be magic. yeah Yeah. I'm like, I don't know how it works. I don't care how it works. If I open this, the game will stop working. Yup. Exactly. The Earth might spin off its axis into the sun.
00:40:03
Speaker
I can't play Battletoads anymore if I unscrew the back of this thing. Dude, Earthworm Jim is going to be fucked if I take a screwdriver to this. I just played that on Windows. Earthworm Jim? On like and the computer. Emulator. so And 90. No, I was doing Earthworm Jim. Similar.
00:40:19
Speaker
i don't i don't know but i Every time you hit the spikes or you hit anything that hurt you, he went, ow. Did he? Yeah. Wow. Mow. So dad takes cloak and dagger. But he takes. Well, he doesn't take cloak and dagger. No. He turns the TV off. He turns the TV off, which turns off the Atari. Apparently. Hey, watch this. it I would just do. dode Do stop. Turn the volume off. I mean, his shit dad or shit kid.
00:40:42
Speaker
Wait till your dad goes to bed, turn the volume off, turns you back on and you beat that fucking game. yeah But you need that music. It's a well-composed beeps. You know, it's more satisfying and well-composed beeps. Sleeping with your dad, apparently. Daddening. Daddening Coleman. Daddening Coleman. No, because dad walks away. and He's like, can I sleep with you?
00:41:00
Speaker
Well, right i write before that, he tells his dad he hates him. Yeah. But I do want to mention the the games he takes, he takes a bunch of like role playing books like D and&D and stuff. You see the D and&D books in his arm. ah In the interview, I watched with Harry Thomas. He was like, love basically, he was like, I was basically kind of a star at this time and he was being humble about it. But he was like, people.
00:41:18
Speaker
Like Universal or whoever this was, I think it was Universal, came to me and they were like, what do kids like? what he What should be in this movie? Whatever. So he just started listing off shit he liked, which included D and&D, which he was introduced to on E.T. by someone there. So I was like, let's go work.
00:41:35
Speaker
Maybe he played it with Destry Spielberg. Now she probably wasn't born yet. I'm a level 34 maid. It's amazing. You can't get to level 34. You can't. If you join a new. This is my game. If you join a new like.
00:41:50
Speaker
Session campaign new campaign but with other people. Can you bring your own character? Yeah, right. I mean, yeah, theoretically, it depends on. Yes, the DM. I guess that's what it is. DM's rules, dude. They are God. I mean, there are there are books with a bunch of rules, but the ultimate say is the DM. um Yeah, it's all up to the Dick Meister. Yeah. Well, I married a dungeon master. Too bad he's not a dickmeister. But I love it because basically this is when the dad takes the shit and he's like, stop with all this fantasy cloak and dagger bullshit. And he i we were talking a little bit. So I missed exactly what he said. He said something about like those guys work down there fixing bikes. They don't worry about fantasy shit. Yeah. So like, is he telling this kid to go get a job? Uh huh. He's like, you're 11. I think I said it last episode. Child labor laws. Yeah. Mooning this country. Debney Cohen's like, when I was 11, I was on my third job, you pussy. When I was 11, I was divorced.
00:42:38
Speaker
I had a fucking addiction to cigarettes and coffee, you punk. When I was 11, my first wife left me because I drank too much whiskey and smoked too many cigars. When I was 11, I was in Korea, fighting Koreans.
00:42:54
Speaker
I didn't care which side. I'm waiting for a report. I got a good one. So he's old. Henry Thomas gets a mysterious phone call from Rice. I believe it's a creeper phone call. And is this David G. McGilley. So close. Say it again. Is this David G. Osborne? Oh, yeah. This is David G. McGilley. I know where you live. Oh, shit.
00:43:21
Speaker
Don't answer them. Don't say yes. But the way this guy even says it when he was like, yeah, good. I got it flashes of the emperor. Yeah. who I feel you're angry. So then Henry Thomas goes and has a father son snuggle with Dabney Coleman. We'll just leave that sentence where it is. Yeah. I'm not touching that. No seat. Don't have a seat right here, Dabney Coleman. He ain't getting he ain't getting me to gentlemen. That's America's morals.
00:43:51
Speaker
OK, because we're almost there. I have info on Mr. Tim Ross of it. Mr. Who? Tim Ross of it. Who's a mustache man? Almost really, but so really, but yeah he was known as one of the more bizarre NFL characters in the 60s and 70s. He played ah for USC and was the first round pick of the eagles ah Eagles and then was a practical joker and a constant attention seeker. Six foot four.
00:44:21
Speaker
He would light himself on fire at parties. Well, that is quite the trick. So what you're saying is to be a football player and an actor, you just have to be an insane character in your game life, too, because I just want to know how that started. Like, hey, look at this. That's funny. and Look at that. I'm on fire. That's funny. I already did the whole arm. What do I do next? I guess I do my leg and the next time I got do my balls. ah um'm ready I'm running out of things to set on fire. How about yourself? oo So yeah, he did that. It was the Eagles and then the Oilers and maybe the Chargers. I don't know. Oh, man. The Oilers haven't heard that name in a while. They don't exist. Oh, well, they did in the 70s. See, I know things. and Well, no yes and no, because it was the Houston Oilers then it was to Tennessee, which became the Titans. And now Houston has a team called the Texans. So you are right. OK, I'm happy.
00:45:16
Speaker
God, that makes sense. Right about football. Oh, that's cool, too. But I googled Tim Rossovich on fire. Now, this is before cell phones, so I didn't know if I'd find anything. I have a photograph of Tim Rossovich on fire. Oh, yeah, you do. So post that for the episode. Holy shit. If you follow us on Facebook, Graham Ross, the bitch is fucking on fire.
00:45:40
Speaker
um Well, if you play for the Oilers and now he's in this movie that was based out of Texas, that makes more sense. Yeah. Well, and the Oilers, I mean, they're going to go up in flames any time. Well, there's proof right there. Covered in oil. it was ah it's from It's from an article here that's titled Tim Rossovich. Tim Rossovich, a wild man burning to make a difference.
00:46:04
Speaker
All right. He's not a fucking Tibetan monk. And it's from Philadelphia Eagles dot com. Yeah, he's a partier. He's not a fucking protester. He's like, yeah, no more bras. Yeah. Oh, yeah. I'll burn your bras while I wear them. But so the next morning, you know, Henry Thomas trying to go to work with his dad. His dad is a staff sergeant in the military and is like, I'm not doing that. That's stupid. This is the 80s. Get on your bike. Get the fuck out of here.
00:46:29
Speaker
There's no bikes in this, which is a surprise. I'm sorry, though. You you I know it's the 80s, but if your kid was like, hey, I'm having paranoid delusions, you think they're paranoid delusions. He just thinks it's an overactive imagination. top secret But baby your kid is terrified. Like just just fucking bring him to work one day. Have some sort of it. You're fine. Yeah.
00:46:48
Speaker
I know i mean i as a product of the 80s and begging my mom, like, I don't want to be home alone. Can I go to work with you? And she worked at a hospital. And the only time she would take me is if she got called and the hours between 1 a.m. and 4 a.m. And then she would wake me up and take me to the hospital with her. yeah Other than that, no. I just think most parents, would if if they had the option to take their child to work when they were like, hey, there's men trying to kill me. You're like, all right, fine. Stay with me for the day just to prove you're wrong. Yeah, but he's been dealing with his son talking about... fantasy shit like this. he There's even a part where you still talk to Captain Jack. I feel like it's an escalation. He thinks it's in his head. Right, though he is. He he does say Captain Jack Flack is ah is back again. Yeah. Guess who's back? Jack Flack's back. um I went to so work with my dad, but it was like when they IBM did like take your kid to work day. Yeah. And then I went to work with my mom, but that was when I was suspended from school for three weeks and I couldn't stay home because you know what he would do if you stayed home?
00:47:50
Speaker
Huh. Smoke weed. Oh, yeah. Play video games and masturbate. And she said no phone for you. 42 year old bartender telling me I couldn't masturbate at Target. Sure. I tell you, you masturbated at Target. Well, there's a target. He's hiding hint inside the clothes racks. He was trying to hit every target in the store. I just hung out. I just hung out in the ah changing rooms. You know, I'll put the under the pile of clothes.
00:48:15
Speaker
ah Can we return that bra? He wore a red shirt and khakis. They just thought he were fair. I kept getting busted because I was like, that bra doesn't fit right. Shit, I shouldn't have said anything. They heard me. Why are we joking about my husband being a perv? Because it's funny. Because he's not. Well, I mean, he's perverted in the good sense. He's married to me. He's not perverted in the sense that he hides at Target with khakis in a red shirt. I've never jerked off in the middle of a clothing rack.
00:48:43
Speaker
You did. I did hide in them, but I was my friend smaller. You haven't lived by the time I was jerking around. I was too big, too tall to be inside the clothing racks. Oh, yeah. Do you remember the round ones that I would like my sister and I used to hide inside of the first. That was my favorite part of going back to school shopping. I mean, every kid that was in one of those racks, like that was the most cool hideout that no one ever think of. You hear your mom calling for your mom opens it up and she's like, you little shitbird.
00:49:10
Speaker
Fuck you, kid. What? Nothing. Should have had an abortion. I will spank you in front of all of these people and they will applaud me. That's what I got. And then I go home and I'm like, Dad, we need to go buy some tuna. Why? Mom said she should have had albacore.
00:49:28
Speaker
Mom said something about an albacore. Is she hungry? An albacore shun. Albacore shun. Albacore sit. Fish wearing a tight top. It's a corset made out of tuna.
00:49:41
Speaker
seen a two and a wearing one. oh Okay. So it's been an hour and we're like half hour into this movie. So we'll go through some stuff. It's fun. It's great. It's good stuff. It's good material. ah But so there's a secret conversation that's not secret on the walkie talkies with Kim. And I only mentioned it because it's funny when Kim was like talking to her mom and she's like, Oh yeah, his dad, whatever.
00:50:05
Speaker
She's like, oh how what kind of guy is his daddy? She's like, not your type. He's not your type. He's in like the military or something and you see this lady just goosh because she's like, oh you mean pension benefits? Is he close to retiring? But why would that be important? Close to retiring. Pension.
00:50:25
Speaker
Right, but he's working, so he still makes good money. Yeah, but if he's retired, then you have to spend time with him. Retired military means vacations. If movies taught me anything, and it fucking has, retired military goes on cruises. If Jay Hall had taught me anything, it means you go to fucking Vegas once a month. yeah Rest in power, King. Rest in power, yeah, definitely.
00:50:48
Speaker
The goons arrive at Davey's house. Dude, this guy, Davey pulls down the blinds, first of all, cracking those things. Seriously. This is not the blinds you need to pull down this way. Also, you broke these. They can see you. Yeah. And this softball comes flying through, followed immediately by an arm, which seems like a bad idea. You're going to get cut up here, my friend. It's Alvarez and Willie Butts. Single pain and you're fine. He's got a jacket on. Yeah, cut off it's wool.
00:51:15
Speaker
But Willie Butts comes bursting through this door like a Jason. This guy doesn't give a fuck. He kicks this door in. And then when. He's Kane Hoddering all over. When Henry Thomas runs upstairs, he punches through the door like fucking Jack Nicholson in The Shining, except without an axe. Here's Johnny. Here's Willie. But. And they open the door to get him, but he escaped out the window. So they're pursuing him now.
00:51:41
Speaker
He goes, takes the game to Bill Forsythe, tells him the exact number. Well, kind of. He's like, it's 1,300, whatever. But he can't remember the end. Bill Forsythe is like challenge accepted, bro. you Say less, fam. I got this. It's fun seeing a young Bill Forsythe. I just looked at his IMDB picture. He's still.
00:52:02
Speaker
He could get it. He can get it. Is he currently getting it? All right. um yeah I mean, he lama likes a little salt with her pepper. He looks like he looks like one of those guys in a bar that would either be cleaning up or creeping everyone out. You can be both in this movie. Trust me. You could do. No, no. In his IMDB photo like that old dude who hangs out at the bar all the time and he's either cleaning up or cleaning out. ah He's either cleaning up or everyone's clearing out.
00:52:29
Speaker
But so Davey ends up talking to Kim on the walkie-talkies. This is where the walkie is taken away and Rice is there. So they're kidnapping Kim and he's like, come meet me at like the zoo or some shit. I don't know where the fuck they are. Botanical gardens. Botanical gardens. Sounds about right. It looks about right. And on the way out, Jack Flack reappears and convinces him to steal a copy of Cloak and Dagger from Bill Forsythe's store. But I can't steal. Jack Flack is actually pretty bad. Like, it's like the devil on his shoulder. He's just like, kill him. He's not supposed to be a role model. He's supposed to be his survival mechanic. Yeah. So it's like you said, it is his own brain saying this to him. Yeah.
00:53:08
Speaker
So he steals the game, takes it to the botanical gardens, meets up with Rice. And he's so he's going to give him the fake copy of the game. And this is where we see a strong man that sets himself on fire holding this little girl like over the cliff without any effort. Yeah, because it's like Henry Thomas is like, I'll drop the game into this water. You know, ah you you can't make me give it to you. And he's like, look up there. Watch this. And fucking Willie Butts is like, I'll drop this little girl into the water. Why are you calling him Willie Butts? That was his character in Avenging Angel. Okay, get it. And it's easier than Raskovich or whatever. What's funny is we both, at the same time, we're talking about, like, because the rice, right? rice is the He gives him the nod and it's like, hey, what nod was that? Is that the nod to throw the little girl into the water or bring her back to the same ledge?
00:53:54
Speaker
I'm going to throw in the water and see what happens. Oh, he's not happy. He's not happy about that one. You never you don't discuss like, is there a thing you do before a big like he probably if I give you this nod, which is my head up and down, bring her safety. If I give you this not, which is slightly to the left, throw her a fucking over the board. I mean, if I go up, down, safety, down, up. Yeah. Well, that won't be confusing to anybody. Exactly. That's the point. Because he does just do like a down nod. So I think that's more like we're good. But if you do that what's up nod, that means toss that bitch. It's still so confusing. Hey, Alvarez, were you watching? Did he go up first or down first? Fuck. I don't know, man. 50-50 chance. Tosser.
00:54:34
Speaker
No, it's one of those annoying to like take her back and you're like, is this right? And then you're watching him. Did this little girl love me? No, no, this is not good. OK. So this little girl's performance and like delivery remind either of you of Drew Barrymore. Yes.
00:54:50
Speaker
from E.T. Yeah. Why didn't they get Drew for this? She was too big for this. You already have one star from E.T.? Oh. Drew Barrymore. She's doing Firestarter, bro. She's doing Firestarter, Playboy. I bet you they wanted her. Oh, this is written for Drew Barrymore. Yeah. For sure. In somebody's casting notes in the market and says, Drew Barrymore type. Curly blonde hair with a lisp and some sass. Yeah.
00:55:15
Speaker
and competent, because Drew Barrymore Young was still a fucking fine actress. Yeah, she was. She was already doing cocaine. Well, that's not where I was going with that. It was really sad. really No, she talks about doing cocaine at nine years old. I mean, who didn't? I waited until I was 10, motherfucker.
00:55:32
Speaker
Double digits, double digits, dude. Did you ever crush up Smarties and smort them? No, I had pixie sticks that were already ground up. Henry Thomas pulls out his little blood gun and has the line freeze turkey, which is good coming from a kid. But he did a really good job, like, because he hasn't tucked into his belt. And dude comes around or like the girl comes around and Rice comes to grab him and he just wha ha. And like real quick, one move, grab, gun and point.
00:56:00
Speaker
But unlike Patreon episode airheads, this barrel is teeny weeny. Well, it's got like a normal sized barrel, but then inside of it, you can see the water nozzle. Anybody that this guy handles guns like on a daily basis knows like. The sun was in his eyes. All right. Come. All right. Fair enough. Fair enough. Do them work. Of course.
Humor on Cooking and Chaos
00:56:20
Speaker
So he shoots. He shoots rice in the face with blood. How do you how do you make fucking rice at your house?
00:56:27
Speaker
Good God. Like a horny toad, dude. Hey, baby, get that blood gun. I got to squirt the rice. I'm hungry. It's filled with saffron, so I can make that bright yellow rice for no reason. It's like all your seasoning, your house to fill a different squirt. Dude, that's what I need. I need a gun rack on the wall. Yes. And all the rest of the different sauces. Yes. This is what I need, dude. Fucking spin it. You got to close your cupboards. Oozy full of barbecue sauce. We're making spicy chicken.
00:56:57
Speaker
Get the full nine. Baby, give me the Beretta. What's in the eagle? The desert eagle would be something big. Garlic. Garlic. Garlic. Because I want a lot of garlic. Yeah. Garlic shotgun is black pepper. pa One more. Two shells of black pepper. God, how much you pepper this thing? I don't like three palms.
Chase and Famous Road
00:57:22
Speaker
So the goods are chasing Henry Thomas. He gets they get on a bus and then they're chasing him in the van. So he's like, I got to get off this bus. Driver can't stop. The driver will not stop. I just love it because he's like, I can't stop here. Like I'm not allowed to stop on this. It's only three bucks away. Like that's the most dangerous road in San Antonio. But this this fucking driver, the kids like Henry Thomas, like I'm going to throw up and he's going to puke on him. So the driver opens the door. Henry Thomas gets out of this bus in full motion. It's really him, too. Well, and he did have a stuntman for this whose name I don't recall. I saw that he mentioned it in the interview. I can't remember the guy's name, but he was like they showed a picture of him and I'm like, OK, I mean, other than the mustache, he could be he's only four eleven. He's an adult man. He's a sort he's not a little person in the sense of that term. He's ah he's a small person. But he is. He's he's short, short, at least. I mean, yeah, he's a small actor. Yeah. And he that's his I'm sure that's his job. He probably doubled fucking ah
00:58:17
Speaker
ah Well, we've got to double fucking his double fucking Elijah Wood. I almost said Elijah Craig and I was like, that's whiskey. He he probably doubled Elijah Wood in Good Son.
00:58:31
Speaker
Oh. Because there's that part where they're hanging off the thing. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Definitely little people in that one. I i yeah know. Yeah. No, we all got a good laugh. This bus driver's like, I'll slow down on this street, dude. You could hit the ground running like, okay, kid, don't puke in my bus. Get off. I'm going to go 30. I would rather you fall out of this bus running and die than you puke on me. That's where we're at in life. I would punch.
00:58:55
Speaker
And honestly, honestly, this just made me jealous of being a ah kid again, ah because it was like a year or so ago, I got into an accident on one of those little scooters that you can rent. Yeah. ah Because some shit was happening. Whiskey scotch. No, it wasn't that. I only had two beers. A vehicle was in the shop. But like, yeah, I was using the scooter because the car was in the shop, wind, trees, whatever. I started I felt myself losing it after I ducked under a tree because Tucson doesn't take care of their sidewalks. hu And I was like, you know what? Slow it down, jump off. I used to do it on my bike all the time. So I slowed it down, jumped off. I cannot run fast enough. And I fucking beefed it and just flipped, dude. And like there was there was one car driving by and I was just like, fuck.
00:59:39
Speaker
Fuck you, man. I wouldn't have cared that much if there were no cars. I would have loved it if you caused an accident. If saw that and then hear, crash, bang! The great thing is I fell off and they just kept driving and I was like, well, they saw the season or a series finale of Seinfeld. ah Yeah. No, they didn't. They that would go to jail then. Yeah. Well, you weren't getting robbed.
01:00:01
Speaker
I could have died. It's the Samaritan Act. I know. that's That's one of the only things I remember because I watched it with my parents because it was a big deal. Everybody was like, this sucked. I love that finale. I think it's a perfect finale for a show about nothing. I remember them being on a plane. Yeah, then they go to another town in, I think it's like Athens, Georgia. They see somebody getting robbed. And instead of helping them, they videotape it and laugh because they're terrible people. Well, they're from New York. Well, they're us. Turns out that that that small town has a law that you have to help people.
01:00:30
Speaker
And so they go to court and they get thrown in jail. It is the perfect ending for a show about nothing that no one in that show learns anything about themselves or grows. Everyone is the same beautiful piece of trash they always were. You're not wrong. Usually not.
Invisible Bomber and Stealth
01:00:47
Speaker
So meanwhile, back at the game dungeon.
01:00:50
Speaker
ah Bill. Meanwhile, back at the Hall of Dungeons. Meanwhile, at the Hall of Dungeon Masters, ah Bill Forsyth unlocks the secret. He sees it. It's plans for ah the invisible bomber is what they call it. I'm sorry. look what is I called it right away. at I said that it is exactly an SR-71 spy plane. And Derek pointed out it's not.
01:01:13
Speaker
So this was something that I got out of IMDB because I don't know anything about planes. I mean, this was the baddest bird in history at the time, and especially growing up. The fucking SR-71 Blackbird was the, I think was the fastest, most stealthiest bomber we had. Like, this is a bad bitch. Yeah, so it says here. um And again, IMDB trivia. So sure. But 33 out of 35 people found it interesting. So it must be true. Not known to the it was not known to the general public at the time of the film's release. The S.R. 71 was designed to be a stealth out aircraft that had indeed sprung from a secret Air Force project to produce supersonic stealth bombers. It also includes a reference to forward looking infrared pod
01:01:58
Speaker
FLIR for their, you know, they got to have an acronym. Yeah, which is now for real, which is now well known as a component of military attack craft at the time. However, it would have been future. So they were they either had insider information or they predicted some shit. Yeah. I mean, maybe the military, like because they did work with some air force people about some of this stuff. Uh huh. Well, when did that plane come out? So it was it sounds like they already had it, but the public didn't know about it. It was top secret shit. But maybe somebody was like, well, look, you can have this graphic of what the outside looks like, because it looks pretty cool. Yeah, because it's to the T and S.R. 70. And again, this was in San Antonio and the in the four air force bases. Yeah, we got military military people to listen to. Write us in if you know the answer. But yeah. Most of the extras were people like Air Force on their day off. And that's what they said. Yeah. Yeah. The writer, I think, in the documentary was like it was all these dudes because they were filling a lot on the weekends because so these guys in the fatigues that are in the base later are probably actually they were just people who were off and they were like, you know, I want to be an extraordinary luck. Yeah. Because there are multiple bases. No, that's a little kid from each.
01:03:06
Speaker
San Antonio is where you go for basic, right? For military, for air force. Yep. Yeah. Anyway, ah at least if you're from to someone gets shot. I don't know. Forsyth gets shot in the head. I want I wanted him to be in this movie much longer, but he's a minor character. He's not William Forsyth. He's fucking he's Morris. He gets. Yeah, he gets shot in the face. And dude, whatever gun this guy is using went straight through his head, which is And there's no blood on the computer? Well, we're just not showing it. Yeah, it's it's PG. Because I even said I was like, well, no body and Derek's like, yes, PG. They're not going to show that. We do get to see the body. We do get to see him get killed. Yeah, we're not going to watch that exit wound. But it's like when they show it, it's actually kind of cool because and this director, there's there's this stuff that I've read about him talking about it. And he's a very big fan and also Tom Holland, the writer mentioned.
01:03:58
Speaker
This director is a huge fan of Hitchcock and John Ford. But yeah this is obviously very Hitchcock inspired. It's not a Hitchcock type of movie. No, it's got those kind of vibes to some of the things. And when William Forsyth, Bill Forsyth turns around, you see Alvarez in the
Hitchcock Influence
01:04:14
Speaker
reflection of his glasses ah and then you see him shoot. So it's like. Oh, no, you see the reflection of the computer screen. Oh, is it the computer screen? Yeah. Oh, OK. But either way, we're using reflections to show. Yeah, it's it's a cool. We're using a lot of reflection and a lot. Well, it's kind of a nod to this movie started as like a remake of like a short film that was called like.
01:04:35
Speaker
the window, which was basically a kid version of Rear Window. Yeah, which is yeah my ah my very strong yeah it's probably my favorite Hitchcock movie. But um there's a there's a kid version kind of was kind of like a boy who cried wolf thing where this kid is always running around saying someone got murdered. And then when he actually sees someone get murdered, no one believe believes him. Yeah. And that's how the script started. So since then, it that before this. ah True. Until Tom Holland said he was like, I don't know how I came up with the idea, but I thought of the idea of an imaginary friend. And that just kicked off what the script became. OK. Which is pretty fucking cool. So.
01:05:14
Speaker
Yeah, he was like and we I had to make it more personable. I had to have more human emotion into it. And like he's like I came up with the the imaginary friend that looks like the dad and then the spoiler at the end. It's kind of funny because a year ago around this fucking day, we did Sidekick. Yeah, which is a pseudo imaginary friend. Yeah. And this is pseudo imaginary because so far it's all imaginary because it's a great.
01:05:42
Speaker
um I mean, not great, but it's a good tool for a writer who maybe doesn't know a lot about kids. Yeah. To be like, here's a cool adventure action movie with starting kids. But their sidekick, their imaginary sidekick is a fully grown adult who does cool shit. Yeah, sure. So he teaches you how to kill and slap boobies. Then Harry Thomas gets to the Riverwalk, which I guess is a famous thing in San Antonio. Yeah, I've done that. It's fun.
01:06:09
Speaker
How much is this boat ride for a child? I want to mention before he gets to the boat, because it was really funny ah when he's hiding under this table when he first gets there, there's like these people sitting at like a restaurant and he's hiding under there and he's like telling him like, oh, these spies are chasing me because whatever, whatever. And the guy picks up a salt shaker and he's like,
01:06:27
Speaker
and We have to protect Jay or I need J. Edgar Hoover. We have such and such honey. J. Edgar Hoover's dead. Oh, they got Hoover Well, we have no fucking chance now. Just the fucking out kids dripping sarcasm It's a funny moment for like get the fuck out of here. I feel like you would do that. Oh, yeah He's in the bushes you see that he's in the bushes come get him right now I Quick, give me Hoover. Hoover's dead. Give me whoever has the charge. So he goes on this boat ride thing that's supposed to be, I guess, a tour of Santa Fe via the or San san Antonio, the San Antonio River. And it's like it gets cut off right before the two goons get on, right? Yes. The guy's like, oh, sorry, can't fit any more people. And then this stupid lady who's been arguing with her fucking husband the whole time. Oh, my God, my wallet's gone. How did you buy your ticket?
01:07:20
Speaker
He did. He paid. This wallet's back in her other set of fucking culottes. Her other purse. She left that wallet at the pool boy's house. I'm not going to tell you where I left it, but I don't have my wallet. His name was Pip. He's a drummer in a band. He's a lone ranger. Did you just call my husband? No. I thought of the droid from Acolyte. Oh, Pip.
01:07:46
Speaker
I was going to say, I definitely they didn't kill him. Well, you said his name. I was like, wait, your wallet is Pip. No, it's in the pool. Boys named Adam Sandler is fucking his way across America um as a pool boy. Yeah. Well, I thought he said the wallet's name was Pip. and He's seen more bumper than a fucking body shop. Yeah. Yes. Rex quote from Steve Buscemi. Steve Buscemi. Oh, yeah.
01:08:14
Speaker
No, no, he's right. It's Brendan Fraser. Is it Brendan? Yeah, because it's ah ah Tony Montana talking to him and he's like that guy. Tony Montana? Yeah, Tony Montana. Joe Montana? Same thing. So. hili Hey, how's he got so much pussy looking like that? Huh? You taught me how to get a fucking scarring pussy like that. That line. He's seen more body more bumper than a body shot. He's seen more body than a body shot. Oh. cool He never pays for who was.
01:08:46
Speaker
Yes, it's Joe Montana and Brendan Fraser. But so there's like this chase around the boat where the kid keeps moving seats and the the Alvarez keeps moving seats to try to chase him. It's like a very like subtle. It's kind of true two times. I mean, like, sir, sit your ass down.
01:09:02
Speaker
No, the guy's fucking telling that like you've got to sit down. The guy driving. I'd be ah the person right there. Like if you get up again and you get up, I'm stabbing your dick. We weren't. where we We weren't worried to about child safety. Whitney will go to jail to defend a child at this point in her life. And that's great. That's a good thing.
01:09:19
Speaker
Not 80s. Nobody give a shit like that kid's gonna get molested. This is San Antonio. And this character Alvarez is played by a Native American guy. All these people were just like, I don't want to talk to the guy that's not white. Yeah, except for the stepdad. Oh, we got a heavy step that energy to wait your fucking. turn Well, he says that directly to Willie Butts. He exactly doesn't say it to the other guy. And Willie Butts, who's a giant human being, is like, oh, shit, he's got that fucking white New Balance energy. That guy's got a great riding lawnmower. He's he's out throw his fucking ah barbecue grill spatula at me. He does say it to Alvarez. I bet he's got a crispy dome. Oh, OK.
01:09:59
Speaker
but so henry thomas ends up sitting next to these two old people ah who are georgian eunices you know she's old name my eunice nobody's been named ununice in sixty fucking years but but who are who who plays these people george is played by a guy named john mcintyre who was the sheriff in Psycho, and he was Amos in Turner and Hooch, who's like the old hermit dude that lives on the docks or whatever, right? He gets blown up. as Yeah. happened Well, spoilers for Turner and Hooch. But yeah, his spoilers for a movie as old as me.
01:10:34
Speaker
Question mark might be older. No, no, it's still doing comedy like like like boob comedies in the 80s. All right. Yeah. It's like middle 80s. Yeah. Or early 90s. I said middle 80s. So he made I swear to God, she's like, it's like the mental 80s.
01:10:50
Speaker
You know, which is all of them the mental ladies. But like these two people, they're they're very well known for like 30, 40s movies. Yeah, they did older movies. Yeah. And then when you recognize I did not at all, which is not surprising. We in the interview that we watched with ah the casting director, she mentioned being a big fan of movies from the 30s and 40s.
01:11:10
Speaker
These are both people she liked. Also, she worked on Psycho 2 with this guy, and she had previously worked. Tom Holland mentioned that when they worked on Psycho 2, the casting director and a couple other people, maybe some photographers, some people had previously worked on Psycho, god the original. and So they're it's a whole big thing. Another fun fact, they're actually married. Aw.
01:11:31
Speaker
So I don't know if she was saying that it was his wife or like his wife in the movie. Oh, I'm not sure. I not i don't know. Because they act as an actor actress, usually you keep your last name. You don't change your marriage. Exactly. So but she's played by a woman named named Jeanette lo Nolan, who was in Psycho, kind of. She was one of the actresses who did the voice of Norman Bates, Norma Bates. Oh, interesting.
01:11:56
Speaker
they had three different actresses who did it because I guess for different inflections and different like deliveries because her voice is kind of like wild throughout that choice though you guys have one actress through three tones but no yeah she was she was one of the norma babes I don't I don't know if she was one of the body people because they have the parts where there's like a woman playing like you could see the person. I think the thing I read said there were three actresses who played the body actress and three actresses who do the voice. i know jeannette No, Jeanette, no, no. And it did at least the one of the voices. OK, I could see Jeanette doing one of the bodies, too, because her her looking at her pictures from when she was younger, she had that like frame.
01:12:34
Speaker
Mow. Mow. But so ah Alvarez had told Willie Butts to make a distraction. So as we now know about Tim Rossovich, his first thought is we'll make a distraction. Oh, I'm going to yell. Fire! Fire! Where? On me. yeah How great would that have been? Start a distraction. How?
01:12:57
Speaker
o you light myself on fire It's not what I said, but that's what I'm gonna do ah Henry Thomas uses this chance to escape from this big tourist boat jumping off onto a paddle boat and then on to the Shore, which is pretty cool skippity jump dude. It's good Yeah, and he had said in the interview we watched with him that he had done He did that like he did a lot of his own stunts for this ah which I mean our minor stunts he's except for the but you guess I guarantee you nowadays wouldn't have a child doing this you'd have ah ah a Small or CG more likely. Yeah, I mean you might have kids doing stunts in some of the movies now But that's because it's all on a green screen a green screen. Oh, that's that's even better. It's not going to be as a short actor. It's going to be them doing out a green screen where there's no river or no boats at all. Yeah, it's just them hopping from like one part of the ground to the other and like we'll figure it out. It's cool to see this. No, they have a boat and those know they have the boat in the in the paddle.
01:13:55
Speaker
but it's only a foot off the floor and they're like so jump from this one to this one go to there me wear wires this is the fun part because you see two people fall into this river oh yeah in the panic and like they're trying to pull this guy back up and he keeps like falling into the water and we're just like they're gonna leave that guy Oh, I would. The tour goes on. I thought they did leave him until you see a guy like getting up off the ground and like wiping water. off And now a new balance is back. And he's like, hey, sit down and quit rocking the fucking boat. And I mean that in every goddamn way. Well, I thought I heard sit down or get off the fucking. No, he said quit rocking. them okay There's no cursing in this. Oh, yeah. I'm i'm putting it on there. Yeah, that's right. He did not quit rocking the boat. You're right. So then Jack Flack makes Henry Thomas Jaywalk and almost get killed a la Bowfinger. Yeah.
Davy's Escape Tactics
01:14:44
Speaker
Which is the only scene I remember from that movie.
01:14:46
Speaker
Really? Yeah. Like I only saw it once. That's enough. It was all right. That's enough. um But that scene where he they have him just run across the fucking whatever 10 there in L.A. Oh, these are all actors. They're not going to hit you. Don't worry about it.
01:15:01
Speaker
yeah They can't hit you if you keep moving. That's exactly what Jack Flak tells them. like They won't hit you if you keep moving. He just runs across. And of course, it's perfect like perfect timing, because it's imaginary. And Harry Thomas is like, well, my imaginary friend did it. Yeah, I brought this out. Dude, these cards almost pile into him. My psyche hasn't led me wrong yet.
01:15:21
Speaker
So they go to this garage, there's a caddy, very nice, pretty new candy. This is candy art at the time, man. This is a beautiful luxury car. A rose-colored caddy. Oh, I love this. You know I love a caddy. You know anybody driving a rose-colored caddy is either someone's grandma or a criminal. Yeah, there's no in between. You are either selling Avon or drugs or secrets. Or dealing weapons.
01:15:47
Speaker
You said Avon and my brain went to Edward Scissorhands. Oh, okay. Avon calling. Fair. What's a sparkle motion? Might've had a Cadillac. Yeah, Beth Grant, she could've had one. She might've had a caddy. Like in Tiny Darko, or in Speed, or no, she was running the bus. Not in Speed, not in Speed. In real life. No, she had it, but she had the UI.
01:16:08
Speaker
I was just thinking maybe the bus was easier way to get to work. I got juiced up and drove my caddy through. Well, Harry Thomas finds the caddy. He doesn't know it's theirs and it turns out it's the thugs caddy. But Dabney Coleman tells him, well, yeah Dabney Colton tells him he's got to hide somewhere. No, they they're looking for Rice and they're like, that's Rice's car right there because he's got a name tag up there. Oh, OK. It's in the parking spot. It's another it's another bit of like ah how much is Dabney Coleman, or sorry, Jack Flack there and how much it is is his psyche? Well, it's just, it's like, you know, like you notice things around you, but consciously you don't because you're like, I don't care about anything. Yeah. That's it's just speaking from experience. There's only really one moment where I'm like, what the fuck? The rest of my, I could chalk up to what you just said. Yeah. Like, oh, you didn't know you saw it, but you definitely, your subconscious saw the name there.
01:16:59
Speaker
Yeah. But so they open the trunk um and that's where Morris's body is. And Henry Thomas, far from being afraid, is like, oh, no. And then Deb Nicole was like, get in the trunk. And he's like, OK. Yeah. He kind of fights at him second. ah Yeah, kind of. He's like, oh, but my friend's dead body's in there. And he just gets in. I'm like, dude, if I was an 11-year-old that just opened the trunk and saw my best friend who was also an adult for some reason ah dead. If I saw a dead body.
01:17:28
Speaker
At 11, I saw a dead, but I don't care if I fucking know this person or not. Eleven years old dead body. I'm not in the trunk of that caddy. Yeah. You want to see a dead body? No, not today. But so he gets in there, hides with the body. We hear ah Rice mentioning that they have to go swap the game cartridge. He says something here about the three fingered person that he has to meet with. Oh yeah, he's over listening. He's yeah over listening. over listen he's He's listening too much. He's over listening. He's over hearing this. Yes, thank you. He's eavesdropping to this conversation. And so that's like, we know this, a three fingered person.
01:18:02
Speaker
Yeah. And that's the only thing he knows about the person. So then they drive away whatever he gets out of the car. And it's funny because when he sneaks out, he opens the trunk all the way. but First of all, none of these guys notice every time he pops the trunk open a little bit. Just a little bit, dude, I would notice. But kids movie, it's fine. It's just movie in general. I get it. Yeah. But he gets out and the trunk goes all the way open and butts. Yeah, burning, moustachioed man is sitting in here and he's like, you can call him Timmy. No, Bernie Madoff. But he's like, why the fuck's the trunk open? Gets out. It's just William Forsythe's body. So he closes it again and doesn't worry about it. ah We go into the Alamo, which and this is it's interesting. So I'm going to mention it. No, I like. I am. now You be dropped on. Yeah, I am to be trivia. So.
01:18:53
Speaker
You know, but apparently the Alamo is considered sacred by some tribes in the area, like that area, probably because of things that happen. And it's like a lot of deaths, something like that. I would assume genocide happened. Yeah, but it's considered sacred. So you're not allowed. You almost never get permission to film in or around the Alamo, the actual Alamo. hu But this one, the outside shot, at least of the entrance way is the real Alamo. Yeah. Which is one of the only times you actually seen it. Almost every other time it's it's a set.
01:19:21
Speaker
And then the interior is a set. Yeah. Got from what I was reading. Yeah. Gotcha. if If we're to believe the IMDB, which is it's just it's an interesting fact. It's kind of cool. It is an interesting fact. It's interesting. But he gets in there and he sees the two old folks from the but the boat and they're like, oh, shit. Hey, what's going on? Little stupid kid. And he's like, my name's Davey. Hope it's not like Davey Crockett. I'm not stupid kid. I'm Davey. Not Davey Crockett. Don't call me that.
01:19:51
Speaker
I don't have a skunk hat on my head. It was a coonskin hat. It was a raccoon. You nobody wears a skunk unless you're trying to ward off people. That's not true. Let me go get a skunk. You've seen Cannibal the musical. Oh, it's true. That weird redneck dude that's one of the trappers, he's got a skunk hat. He's just trying to look sprodoinkle.
01:20:10
Speaker
There's I can't remember the movie, but I know. Oh, a Christmas Carol. Christmas story. That one. He's got a skunk head. That might be a good ginger guy. I don't know. It's probably like a badger or something. But I imagine now that you're saying that I'm connecting these two characters, because that guy I was talking about in Campbell's musical looks an awful lot like that ginger bully. But without being ginger, he also looks like he looks like he grew out of it. He looks like that dude from Justified that's also in Twister.
01:20:38
Speaker
What? The one with the bum leg and justified that's in the first Twister. Oh, Dickie Bennett. Dickie Bennett. I don't know. I can't remember the actor's name, but that the guy from Cannibal the Musical, the guy from Cannibal the Musical looks like that dude.
01:20:50
Speaker
Yeah. and Anyway, not wrong. None of those movies are what we're talking about. Sorry. It's a good movie. There's this camera case that the game is in and the old people have a similar exact same camera case. Surprisingly. And Rice leaves it behind for whoever he's supposed to leave it for, because the Alamo is closing. There's a whole switcheroo scene. I feel like if he would have just grabbed it and like quietly walked off, everything would have been just fine. Yeah, but he grabbed it and ran. And then this ah fat ra this fat Stan Lee catches him running out the door.
01:21:21
Speaker
Excelsior, young explorer. What are you doing in that case? Do you got any joints in there? ah I know we just. You got any ideas for cartoon characters in there? I'm going to steal them. Do you have another superhero? What's this Captain Jack Flack I've been hearing all about? What do you look like? How many pockets? So I came up with Captain Jack Flack all by myself. Did you see the Stanley cameo in this? No. And in the movie, we just watched in theaters.
01:21:46
Speaker
I didn't catch it. A Deadpool Wolverine on the bus. Oh, OK. He's he's a picture on the there is a thing. Oh, OK. I was going to say I read a thing that he had like signed some stuff before he died, which might not have been the best thing to do. He wasn't in the mental state to sign anything, but to continue usually would like that. Oh, he would. Yeah. But at the state, he probably shouldn't have been signing anything because correct on that. But because I know who or maybe it was his kids was as Stanley like he he wants to be in everything now.
01:22:16
Speaker
Yeah. But yeah, he's on the side of the best. The best daily cameo. Still mall rats. The second best daily cameo is Captain Marvel because it's the same Stanley from all raps. OK, not anyway. so Yeah, that's all going to cut. It's fine. Not the part we say fat Stanley, though. But so I did catch this is one of those things that's like a real subtle thing with the director. You see ah Henry Thomas give the old man the case.
01:22:43
Speaker
And you see him kind of switch the cases that he has. And then when he gives Rice the case, because Davey gets in the car with the old lady, he looks over and sees the old man give Rice the case. And he's like, why the fuck did he give him the case? But when he first hands it to him, it's like on the side of the frame, you see the old man switch his cases. Yeah. So he's giving the guy the empty case. Well, it's not empty. It's got a nice camera, got a nice camera.
01:23:07
Speaker
But that's what he's actually doing. It's kind of a good little like subtle. They don't have a cannon. Johnny, switch them up. You know what's crazy? Was it a cannon? I didn't catch the brand, but you know what's crazy? I don't see it. A movie doesn't have to show you a close up of everything or explain everything to you. For sure. It's I know. I love that. It's almost as if the audience has a brain.
01:23:27
Speaker
What? Yeah, not anymore. One one or two may have a brain, a collective. No. But they're in the car talking about stuff. He's like, why did you give him the case? Did I give him the case, kid? The kid opens it and it's like, oh, here's the game. He knows how to do things. He everything turns out right with my George. George always makes me happy. And I love this is when you start going, oh, shit, the old people are in on this. Oh, no. We wondered right away. This is the first time seeing on the boat. Yes. This is the second time. Oh, the first time seeing the movie. Yeah. Yeah.
01:23:57
Speaker
For me, it was when they were at the Alamo, I was like, okay, they're fucking in on it. They had to be. The boat we wandered a little bit. I wondered if they used to be in espionage, because they're like... Because they kind of had like, oh, he does look dangerous. You'd be surprised. But at the Alamo, we were all kind of like, okay. Yeah, why are they there again? We might be in on they also they were there from out of town So being on a tour or going around seeing the sights you go to the Alamo sure I wouldn't but some people would somebody would but especially in the 80s But like this old lady is like, oh did they tell you what this spy looked like and he's like nah They didn't know just something like he has three fingers and she's like, oh, that's crazy And she starts taking off her glove and we're all like oh
01:24:40
Speaker
And I think so say, oh, wait, I saw. Say, did you guys notice that she locked the door before even asking questions? Yeah, she turned around and like click like they made a really nice hit it with her elbow. She literally turned around and went push down touch. Nice little touch. I didn't notice before she even asked what are these people look like? Now you just can't leave. So she takes off her gloves. She's got three fingers. Henry Thomas is like, oh, shit, I'm fucked now.
01:25:08
Speaker
And that was somebody that literally had no finger. p or Yeah. Henry Thomas. She's only two fingers away from being the six fingered man. yeah Three fingers. Because she's got eight. She had three. Oh. Two fingers away. She has eight combined. She's like a ninja turtle right now, basically. Yeah, she was. It was the beginning. Cricket. You've got to know what a crumpet is to know how to play cricket. But don't you eat a crumpet?
01:25:35
Speaker
I don't know. Henry Thomas did, is that from the Michael Bay movie? No, it's from Ninja Turtles. The good one? Yeah. I just don't remember it. It's when Casey Jones pulled out a cricket bat and he's like, oh, and then Rap was like, cricket. Don't change the dial on that one because I have a Blu-ray and we're going to do something special.
01:25:51
Speaker
Because I have a Blu-ray of the the three Ninja Turtles movies with the the puppets and the animatronics and whatnot. The first one comes with a scratch and sniff thing that goes along with the movie. Oh, so we have to do something special with that. might be patient watch on That might be video. I think it needs to be ter a commentary.
01:26:11
Speaker
Yeah, we do something like that. Yeah. I know it's a scratch and sniff and I'm assuming most of them smell like sewer. Oh, God. But anyway, so she takes it off the hand. And yeah, Henry Thomas mentioned in the interview, I think it was Hammer. Maybe it was the casting director, someone we watched a few interviews um that they had like this German lady who came in and she was just a hand double, basically. But that was her real hand. So instead of having to do like they didn't have to hire Tom Savini or Rick Baker. plenty of German chicks you know for hand stuff dude don't be that impressed I didn't see any poop on the fingers so I didn't know she was German but so she's the three fingered spy oh shit we're in trouble and you then this is what it gets like it's almost like like Henry Thomas is having like a ah
01:26:57
Speaker
an overwhelming like dream moment because you start hearing their voices get like wavery in the background and stuff. hu He's in touch with reality. Yeah. Because they're like, oh, don't worry. I talked to Rice about taking care of the kid. And it's just very weird to all of a sudden come from these sweet old people. ah But it's a great turn. I thought.
01:27:14
Speaker
She's also pouring some liquid. She pulls like a more form. Yeah, she pulls a little jar of chloroform out. But when I first saw it, i was so this is the same bottle that people like if you're a nerd like me and you know, like whiskey people online and they're like, yeah, you can try this. I'll pour you a little sample bottle. They're a little like one to two ounce bottles. They're just little guys. I thought she was going to try and poison him with aqua velva. I thought it was whiskey. and My first thought was whiskey.
01:27:38
Speaker
Hand me that bottle of high karate. You said it out loud. I heard it. It's an absence. We're going to fuck this little kid's world up. Yeah, he is. He's about to see the green fairy, dude. He made out with your sister. So they chloroform him and he ends up back in the trunk. ah We cut to a little later and it's him. but You can hear him and Dabney Coleman in the trunk talking and he's like, how the fuck do I get out of here?
01:28:04
Speaker
i saw I saw the seat go down and I was like, oh, it's like the seat folds down. That started happening. I'm 84. No, they just kid this kid, apparently, kicked this seat down. it's It's supposed to be Dabney Coleman. He's got dab strength. Yeah. I mean, there he's been working on his dab bod. Dude, I've had dab strength. It usually involves ah just smashing.
01:28:27
Speaker
Smashing pizza rolls. You want to see how many burgers I can eat? Check out my dab bod. A Pop-Tart sandwich with like peanut butter and fruity pebbles. Yeah, the out the bread was Pop-Tarts and the filling was peanut butter and fruity pebbles. Oh, you're really close to what I made once called a Skittle Skamish, where it's Pop Tarts is the bread, fruit. ah Sorry. Hold on. ah Fruit Roll-Up is the lettuce. ah Skittles are your condiments. Like there's a whole dude. I have it written down. There's a whole Skittle Skamish. Sounds like a cavity mouth. Oh, you are going to diabetes. You're going to die in diabetes. I was at my brother's house and we were so fucking high and I was just going through his cabinets and I was like, oh, peanut butter. Cool. Do you have bread? He's like, no. And I was like, fuck.
01:29:10
Speaker
So I'm just going through more cabinets. I'm like, can I have two of these pop tarts? He's like, all right, and as I put the peanut butter on the pop tarts. And then I saw the Fruity Pebbles and I was like. Garnish, dude. We're all going to hell tonight, dude. Yeah. This is how I die. The peptides. Oh, no, I was too high for that. Oh, I was going to just say, no, he's not a maniac. He is a maniac. He is a maniac. He is, in fact, a maniac. He can not eat. He sober. This man cannot eat a pop tart unless I can eat untoasted. I don't want to. You don't like unhot food. I salad's great, not hot. Oh, you can't have hot salad. Hot lettuce can go fuck itself.
01:29:48
Speaker
You give me a burger with lettuce on it. That better be like right out of the crisper onto the burger. And I'm going right to let it on. Let it go to a drive through. No lettuce, please. I don't need that soggy ass mush. Thank you. No. Anyway, back to cloak and day at any rate. So they they kick out the seat or he kicks out the seat. Who knows? And there's a car phone in here. So he calls Kim.
01:30:09
Speaker
and tells her like, hey, there's a bomb in the building because he overheard them saying they're going to blow up ah her house and then half the neighborhood. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So she she tries to go to the airport. Oh, because he knows the old people are going to Mexico. Yeah. That's right. They got to take the midnight plane.
01:30:29
Speaker
Him driving this car, barely being able to see through this car park. Oh, he can't see. He has to slide all the way down the seat. I'm sorry, car park? What are you, British? The car park he's driving through. So he's got his car and he's getting through. The roundabout comes up, right? He handles it masterfully on the roundabout and he pulls into the garage.
01:30:51
Speaker
He gets the old snakes and ladders. What the hell you thought was something with breaks? What parking lot parking garage park, k not a parking lot. Gotcha. Parking garage. All right. Fine. Parking structure. How about just a garage? Anyway, and I did enjoy he steals this caddy, almost runs them over. It's great. But I did enjoy the fact that they went through like he's 11 and he's driving a fucking caddy. There's no way this kid could drive this car. He hits the wall and he still just.
01:31:18
Speaker
Just scrape it along. At one point, Rice is like, don't shoot. He's in my car. And it's like, dude, you're what the fuck he's doing. he's He scrapes it up a bit at that point. But then immediately after that, he smashes it into this other car. And I think that's what he's like. Well, fuck it. He even had the mirror. and you and You get the van. Give me the gun.
01:31:34
Speaker
Fuck this. But I just loved it because the kid they it was it was a realistic ish thing where like this kid is driving this car and the music even like the music's going high paced and shit and he's going up. It's one of those tourney fucking parking garages with the spiral in the middle. And he's going up and then he's like, why can we call that a roundabout car park, you know. So he has to look over the steering wheel and the music's like, chuck to to jump to to and he looks over and it's like, we do that slow now.
01:32:05
Speaker
Like the music slows down and then he goes back down and hits the gas the music kicks back up is pretty good Yeah, it's a fun moment. I'm liking this because you have somebody actually driving a car I mentioned the composer but I didn't say his name and I want to mention it because it made me laugh because I was like who Brian May And now, are you familiar with it the Brian May I first thought of? No. The guitarist from Queen. Oh, and I was like, what the fuck? Oh, and I looked at it's not. It's not. OK, that was amazing because we do know we wrote this soundtrack for a Highlander and Flash Gordon. So it's not unheard of. Well, didn't the guitarist write most of the music?
01:32:42
Speaker
Yeah, but they did that flash. Oh, that's Queen. Yeah. So I was like, what? And then I clicked it and I'm like, oh, no, he did do bad backs. So that's cool. But so, yeah, there's this a so just montage, not a montage, but a series of him crashing into things as tri as he tries to escape from that just destroying this caddy. And I could hear Jack just sobbing.
01:33:04
Speaker
Dude, this cat is so fucking beautiful, man. And this leaves you wrecking it. Like Bob Kelso from Scrubs. And what did we say that it was like an 83? It's brand fucking new. Two door. I mean, Rice is selling military secrets to the top fucking bidder. Yeah. You've got money.
01:33:22
Speaker
And beautiful rose rose gold. I don't want to talk about it anymore. Henry Thomas yeah crashes it into this like construction scaffolding. He calls Kim and realizes on the walkie talkie and he real or he tries to call her. It doesn't work. How he's like, how can she not hear me through the walkie talk walkie talkie?
01:33:40
Speaker
But Martha, it's a Martha moment. Yeah. He realizes the walkie talkie is where the bomb is. Yep. Which and I don't know if it's diagenics down or not because it goes in and out. But this girl is walking around with a beeping walkie talkie. The only scene it's not in is when she's talking to the security guard. Yeah. But then in the next shot where she's talking to the head security guy at the airport, it's beeping again.
01:34:03
Speaker
But I think just for us, and I could be wrong, I'd be fine being wrong. I think you're right, I think it is just for us. But why wouldn't any adult be like, what the fuck is in your backpack? You're in an airport. That's what I was about to say, these these adults are just like, these kids and their toys. What, she has some Tamagotchi back there. You got Tecmo football in your backpack? It's time to feed your Tamagotchi, pay attention to it. You'll never make it an adult if you can't take care of Tamagotchi. Of course you did. Who didn't have a Tamagotchi? Your 80s baby. you Yeah, I killed that thing. So did mine. Mine left me. Mine died. So you named it dad? Yeah. Hey, I'll call you dad so you'll never leave. Oh, he's gone. Oh, no.
Moral Dilemma and Outcome
01:34:42
Speaker
So Henry Thomas calls his dad about the bomb and his dad's like, dude, I told you to quit being a lying piece of shit. I got to go. I got sick of your attitude. But then all of a sudden, line cut.
01:34:52
Speaker
Yeah. And that's when he's like, wait, that's not right because fucking flaming Tom has decided to drive this van through this fucking phone booth while this kid is in it. And it is intense. This is probably the stunt man. Yeah. But Dabney Coleman or his stunt man and Henry Thomas or his stunt man get out of this phone booth right before this van just plows through that shit. Not the only time I'll say this about it. Great stunt.
01:35:18
Speaker
Yeah, great stuff. And then it smashes into the building right behind it. And this dude flies through the front windshield and like, well, seatbelts. Bye. And Dabney, do Dabney Coleman or sorry, Captain Jack Flack. Captain Jack Flack is like, dude, ah one down, two to go. grab Grab his fucking gun right now. And it's this thing that's like.
01:35:38
Speaker
I don't know, an undertone of the movie where Elliot, I'm just going to call him Elliot, by the way. Elliot is just like, no, I'm not going to grab that gun. I'm going to do it my way, which is I don't want to kill. I don't want to. Well, he's an 11 year old child. He doesn't want to murder someone. I get it for sure. But they're trying to kill you, bro. A little for you. What would. Hey, WW JMD.
01:36:00
Speaker
What would John McClain do? He should have just said JF. What would Jack Flack do? Yeah, but I like John McClain better. John McClain wasn't around yet. Was it 87? Oh, he's around. He just doesn't have a movie. He just hasn't. He's around. He just hasn't fought German terrorists yet. Yeah, not yet. 89? No way you're reporting. I think it was 86. 86 or 87? Yeah. I don't know. People are going to probably at me, but it's fine. It's one of my favorite movies. I just couldn't tell you what year it came out. At me. At away. It's my fault. At a boy. At Whitney Affolder on Facebook. Dot com.
01:36:35
Speaker
Uh, but so Dabney Coleman's telling him like, Hey, you've got to do something about these guys. Like they run away. They're hiding under this bridge. He's like, dude, I can't, I don't have a gun. I don't have a knife. I don't have anything Cincinnati shuffle, whatever you call the crossfire gambit, the crossfire, gamb which So in these interviews I was watching, there was they kept showing this scene of him running toward Alvarez and then gunfire hitting the ground behind him while Alvarez is firing at him. And I was like, what is happening now? It makes sense.
01:37:06
Speaker
Because he gets in this tunnel. Rice is on one side. Alvarez on the other side. They're both firing machine guns at him. He runs toward Alvarez, dodges at the last second and Rice just lights up Alvarez. Oh, yeah. Just fucking turns this guy into Swiss cheese or shredded. be Sorry. Shredded beef. ah Point of order. I still think Swiss cheese would have been better. I think shredded beef is shredded beef is more visceral, though. Yeah, because cheese doesn't bleed, dude. That's the difference.
01:37:34
Speaker
Okay, you're not wrong. Neither does beef, it's myoglobin, dude. Wait, beef has midichlorian? Fuck you to say? Dude, this steak has over 9,000 midichlorians. Wait, you ate Yoda? You had a fucking little Yoda steak? Yeah, did you? I would eat a Yoda. I'd still be hungry. Why don't you eat with us? I'd still be hungry.
01:37:57
Speaker
So he takes the gun off Alvarez. He gets cornered, even though Jack Flagg tells him, don't go that way. It's a dead end. And it's this scene I talked about earlier where he he threatens them with these really awful things you should never like. Just I mean, if you have to kill 11 year old, just kill the 11 year old and be done. Don't threaten. him One of the interviews I watched was with Michael Murphy, who plays Rice. And he was just like, I don't know. I was saying some terrible things to this 11 year old child. Yeah, I'm just like, dude, it's a paycheck man.
01:38:25
Speaker
Yeah, I would tell an 11 year old kid I'm going to shoot you in the stomach. I'm giving the character shit, not the actor. The actor is doing his job. It's brutal. It's cool, though, because you just don't see that kind of like I mean, it's not violence on screen, but like that kind of level of like visceral or violent activity. The next time the next time we will see a a villain threaten a little person, a young actor like this is going to be Waterworld with Dennis Hopper.
01:38:52
Speaker
Yeah, I mean, I guess in home ah Home Alone, they probably threaten to kill him, right? Oh, rest it, rest it, get to rest it, yeah. Yeah. For sure. This is the part that's a little confusing, because imaginary Debney Coleman Distracts rice. lee Okay, so so I know exactly what you got. What do you got? I know so the Elliott keeps looking over to the side and Guy Rice keeps like what is just so you guys know that our like to we shouldn't be turning it to Elliott Yeah, so he keeps looking to the side and rice is like what the fuck is he looking at and then
01:39:30
Speaker
We see Jack Flack like, no, it'll reflect the bullets. He'll get him. And then Elliot's like, no, Jack, don't. And so Rice is like shooting. But two things about that, though. He this is the first that this character has looked.
01:39:48
Speaker
I don't know, yeah ethereal. No, he always looks ethereal. No, he started getting see through here. Yeah. He's never seen through. Maybe it's a trick of the camera. Maybe not. But it's it's more than that. Because even Elliot, I know. no one I know. I know. I know. It's called Elliot. Fuck off. i've I've been drinking. I forgot what his name was. Oh, Amy. Henry Thomas.
01:40:10
Speaker
ah bob lama what's his name so henry thomas henry thomas thomas But at this point he's like oh my god he saw you oh my god he's the opposite of your favorite his Hank Tom I love me some Tommy Hanks, but it's the only part that makes you think like, huh, what's happening? His imagination is so powerful that he projected the image. I don't know. No, I think it was after he distracted him and he was just like gun happy. It was like after Rice shoots at him and he falls down and then Henry Thomas shoots this dude. Henry Thomas, 11 year old Henry Thomas murders this man in this movie, which is pretty cool. Tough word. Self defense. But he does shoot this guy.
01:40:52
Speaker
And then he's like, he really saw you. And Jack Flack is like, nah, his imagination wasn't good enough for that. So who knows? We need. It's Dave's ex imagination. Yeah. Yeah. He got like, i wouldn't you do that if you you're like, no, shoot that. And oh I would have shot this little kid months ago. Right. I wouldn't have said anything. I just remember.
01:41:13
Speaker
Well, he shot Rice and this is where Dabney Coleman, Jack Flack is like, oh, I guess I'm fine. Whatever. And I guess it doesn't. Henry Thomas gets mad. Well, yeah, this is a character progression. Yeah, because he's like, he doesnt he's like, you made me kill that guy. And he's like, well I didn't make you do anything. You're crazy. But then he's that's when he says, I don't want to play anymore. And Dabney Coleman has this moment of like,
01:41:38
Speaker
That's what they always say. Your dad said that. Your dad said the same thing when we used to play cowboy in Native Americans. Yeah, he didn't say that. Not what he says. You're a good person. But when that happens, all of a sudden, it's actually really funny, even though it's a heartwarming moment, because as as Harry Thomas stops believing in him, all of a sudden, blood just comes pouring out of like 40 holes.
Jack Flack's Heartwarming Exit
01:41:59
Speaker
And this is a part of that made me tear up. Really? I don't know what gun this dude Rice was using. It's like an Uzi. Definitely a type of Uzi. OK, but he puts like something on it and then another silencer on it. Like it's like it's it's like he has an extended barrel and it's a presser like it's something. So he just lit this dude up. Yeah. But yeah, blood. It's really funny, even though it's supposed to be a heartwarming moment. And I think they intended to mix it because the blood just comes pouring out of all of the holes. It's very Bugs Bunny. It's like the only blood we get in the whole movie. Yeah. And he tells them go get me a cigarette. They're over there.
01:42:34
Speaker
Give me a smoke. Yeah. Harry Thomas goes to get it. He dies and disappears. He disappears. Yeah. um Mal. So this is when the dad the dad gets to Kim's house and talks to the mom. And I thought there was going to be a subplot of like, hey, but they don't really have time. That's fan fiction for us to put in our head. I mean, this fucking this movie is only one hundred and one minutes. But I think it was like this extra thing of like the two parents liking each other as six minutes. so So the girl and the boy can be brother and sister. Oh, gross. You know, this movie is only probably 40 minutes shorter than this episode. so I don't know where we are right now. I never know where we are. But yeah, they meet up and the dad's like, dude, he called some shit's going down. Where's your daughter? Oh.
01:43:26
Speaker
It's 11, 25 at night. Why would I know where my daughter is? I gave her a bus pass, homie. Is this before they did those? She's at your place, right? Oh, this is way before 10 o'clock. Yeah, it's 10 o'clock. Do you know where your children are? Do you know where your children's is? It's also almost midnight. Yeah, and so he calls the police directly. Oh, that's right. The bomb goes off at midnight. Yeah.
01:43:48
Speaker
Because we I said something about like this girl got on a bus in eleven fifteen and no one questioned it. And then they cut to the clock and it's eleven twenty five. And I was like, even worse, even worse, Derek. But dad calls the police, but he doesn't call 911. He like knows the guy. No, he presses zero says operator. I need the police. It's an emergency operator. Klondike 453, please. I'll wait. I'll wait for the sergeant. See I know him. I know his wife. I know his mistress even more important um And Kim now is at the airport with the bomb and again I don't know if this beeping is for us or for the movie But she's talking to this lady getting like information on a flight and in her backpack is just going
01:44:26
Speaker
I have to imagine it's for us only. I still think it's just otherwise like, hey, little girl, the fuck is beeping? You need to shut the fuck up. And in the interview I watched and I didn't write down the woman's name and I should have to give her her props. Christina something. But the the the woman who plays this clerk was had an interview.
01:44:45
Speaker
ah Like I was like, apparently she's one of the only ones who returned their calls. Well, she's also one of the only ones who's still alive. But she was very excited because I guess she was like a she was working at like ah a talent agency or something and or like ah an agent, something like that. Yeah. And like the director met her through whatever and he hired her. But it it is cool to get like this little tiny walk on roll because her thing was she's like, this got me my SAG card.
01:45:10
Speaker
Tammy Tyler. So Tammy Tyler. Tammy Heiler. Heiler. But it was really than you are. It's really funny to have this lady giving a whole interview when she has this one line that's like the plane leaves at four p.m. or when it's midnight. i It was it was like how can I find somebody? ah You tell me the name and I'll page him. Oh, that's right.
01:45:31
Speaker
Like, it's just funny to have. But i we watched this on a Vinegar Syndrome 4K from their ah VSU series. That's why anybody who knows Vinegar Syndrome knows they mostly do like the pointy type horror movies and stuff. But their ah their VSU series is stuff like this. It's got this sidekicks we watched on here. Perfect. ah Roadhouse Six String Samurai, which I'm probably the only one who knows except her. She hated it.
01:45:59
Speaker
I love it. ah Navy Seals. So stuff like that. Big studio movie. Yeah. But so I feel like Vinegar Syndrome just called people and was like, you want to interview about clogan dagger? And they're like, I don't remember doing it.
01:46:12
Speaker
move on, but we need back to the behind the scenes, though. But yeah, it was it was kind of funny. But so anyways, she's at the airport with the bomb. She gets taken by security. ah Because she's being crazy. Yeah, well, she's telling him, she's like, I need to get on this plane. um There's a spy. Yeah, it's craziness. And so they just go into the security. The guy's like, like, hold on. Let me hear it one more time. We don't fucking have time.
01:46:40
Speaker
Yeah, and she doesn't know she has a bomb in her backpack. Yeah, she has no idea. Henry Thomas is trying to get to the airport, and so he runs up to this. He tries to get on the bus. doesn't He lost his bus pass. Doesn't have 75 cents. The driver tells him to fuck off. Makes sense. um I'll give you the 75 cents when I get there. That's not how this works to state the state authorities. How? Yeah.
01:47:01
Speaker
I mean, I guess he could have said I'm meeting my dad and he'll have the 75 cents. You're a liar. Yeah, probably. Um, kid, kids are all liars. But so he goes to these cab drivers and the first cab driver he speaks to, he's actually credited as cab driver or taxi driver number two. yeah It's Louis Anderson. Check on donuts, chase kayak. And the the interview with the casting director, she said that she cast him purposely. Like she knew it was like a nothing role. Yeah. But she saw him at like a comedy club and thought he was really funny. but So she was like, you want to be in a movie?
01:47:35
Speaker
but so anytime i'm watching behind the scenes from like 70s and 80s especially and someone's like so i just asked that guy you want to be in a movie i'm like what was going through his head like this woman walks up to him hey you want to be in a movie and he's like yeah But look, all right. Look at this with a stand up is not stand up has a lot of vehicles now, right? You've got YouTube. You've got Comedy Central. You've got fucking podcast. You've got all kinds of yeah ways. Facebook reels. Dude, absolutely. Instagram personality. How did Matt Rife get famous? Fucking surgery. But either way, like Louis at this time, we're talking 1984, five, whatever.
01:48:17
Speaker
You don't have a lot of ways to plug yourself outside of a radio show for local shit. I'm just thinking, though, of a random person walking up to you in a CD club where you're doing comedy casting director. Sure. A random person walks up to you in a comedy club and says, I'm a casting director. You want to be in a movie? Like, what are you putting in me? Can I can I interview with a bunch of people around me just to be safe? I will. I will take that from a female before I take it from a male.
01:48:42
Speaker
Fair. Name of your sex tape. Yeah. But yeah, so it's Louis Anderson, but he tells Henry Thomas to fuck off. So ah Henry Thomas goes over to this other cab driver who is coked up Adam Scott. Oh yeah. And I don't mean coked up like today. I mean, coked up like three weeks ago. He hasn't had coke in three weeks, sadly for him. No, he's Ben doing coke for three weeks. I thought he was just like, man, I could really use some coke. If I drop this kid off, maybe I can get some money somehow. Because this 1130 shadow he's rocking. like This guy looks like he's going to molest this kid. He does. Yeah. He doesn't. No, he doesn't. Thank God. No, he doesn't. But he's he's he's actually the one that's like it's an emergency. Like there's something going on. Cool. I'll take you. Then when he gets him there. He's like, I'll go. I'll find a way to get you money. He's like, yeah, don't worry about it, dude. I don't care. I'm really high.
01:49:34
Speaker
I got to drive 90 on the freeway. I don't care, I don't care, Katie, you asked me for a ride at 1130. I'll be back to that bar before one or two, whatever last call is in Texas. It was one. In the 80s. I don't know about Texas. They don't have last call in Texas. Idiots. Are you sure about that? Yeah. They get mad if you're not drinking at three in the morning.
01:49:52
Speaker
That's how it was in Louisiana. Nah, it's Texas, dude. It's down south. They got all those blue laws. It's like, I know they probably got some weird ass blue laws. The first time I ran into blue law shit, though, I was in Alabama.
01:50:07
Speaker
Makes sense. Yeah. And I went to a grocery store. I was there for a job because I used to work on a terrible TV show and with a guy who will be on this show in the future and has been on the show before. And he was in the big hit, Sabato Junior, Antonio Sabato Junior. But I went to this grocery store. Our day off was Sunday. So I was getting food for my hotel room. I was like, oh, look, a couple of six packs of local beer. Cool.
01:50:32
Speaker
I'm walking up and this guy sees me and he goes, they're not going to sell you that. And I was like, dude, I'm fucking twenty eight. They sell me that shit. And he's like, no, it's Sunday. And I looked him dead in his fucking eyes and I was like, is it nineteen twenty four? And he just goes, what? Like he was so baffled. And I was like, fuck you talking about? And so I took it up front and the lady's like, I can't say you that on Sundays. And I was like, what?
01:50:54
Speaker
That's my day off. This is 2014. I'm not part of your religion. This is 2014. You can't buy beer on Sunday. You got to stock up on Saturday. Or go to church. They wouldn't let you buy it at all. You want wine? Go to church. I know. You know what? Those churches aren't doing wine. That's a Catholic thing. Oh, that's true. There ain't no Catholics down south. Nope. Nope. I was in a Lutheran and a Baptist. We did wine. Oh, OK. But anyway, so. See, Candy's backing me up. She said, fuck you.
01:51:23
Speaker
So Kim tells security about the three finger lady. The guy is the kind of believing her. But also like, are you insane? Let me take this down again because I don't really fucking get it. Yeah, it doesn't make a lot of sense because it doesn't. ah Davey gets to the airport. Elliot gets to the airport ah and he's chasing the two old people and he runs right through security. And all they do is go, hey,
01:51:46
Speaker
Hey, stop that. Pre-9-11, dude. Nobody's given a hoot. If I ran through a security gate right now. Shot. Shot to death. You wish you got tased. You're fucking dead. But he sees these two very old people walking away, and his plan is, Mom, Dad, don't leave me. Not Grandma and Grandpa? The security guard buys it for a minute, but even Derek was like, Grandparents, maybe not parents. Yeah, you should've yelled Grandma and Grandpa. Because they are. Uncle Billy. Or Ma and Pat. Quite old.
01:52:16
Speaker
Mont and Pops would have worked. And even the old man. Yeah, even George, I guess. Yeah. George. George says. Do we look young enough to have a kid this young? Like, come on. And the guys, I love that. I love this whole thing of like this security guard, like, cause Henry Thomas tells him, look at his bag. He has my game. It's called cloak and dagger. And he's like, show me the game. And the guy's like, we don't have a kid this young, whatever. But the security guard is like, I'm going to need to see what's in the bag. I'm like, are you debating whether or not these parents are trying to abandon their child?
01:52:46
Speaker
ah Like we we do. We've had three this month. We're not doing it again. Like but stop leaving your kids at the airports and flying to Acapulco. Right. How often is there a kid running through like, mom, dad, don't leave me. It is Texas. No. Yeah. No shit. Yeah. There are no abortions in Texas. There's a lot of parents who want to pay any of abandonment. I don't know the 80s. Yeah. No, there still weren't especially in the 80s.
01:53:10
Speaker
I think they had about six weeks before we could even get fucking divorced. Kim comes running out of the security office, which is right there. Yeah.
Airport Standoff and Humor
01:53:19
Speaker
Davey takes the walkie talkie out of her bag right before George kidnaps him at gunpoint yeah because he steals the gun from the security guard. Now shit's just gone off the fucking rail. We are in a hostage movie now. It went full on passenger 57. I wish Wesley's nights in this fucking movie, dude.
01:53:39
Speaker
So ah the the the old man, George and Eunice, they drag Davey out to the plane. The security is chasing him, but they don't want a kid to die on their watch. They don't really care if not. Yeah, it's Texas. They will. Well, they don't want the kid to die if unless he's been convicted of a crime or he's mentally and say maybe he's just. I mean, this mentally disabled. Yeah. Well, he is mentally unstable. But yeah, they also want to murder mentally disabled people because that's Texas.
01:54:07
Speaker
They give the death penalty, even if you're mentally unstable. Yeah, they have.
Bomb Defusal and Movie References
01:54:11
Speaker
They have a track record. They'll kill mentally disabled people, but you can't have an abortion because that's a life. You can't kill unless I want to. But so they get onto the plane. ah The dad and the and the cops arrive. Davey is on the plane trying to defuse the bomb. And I love that, like.
01:54:30
Speaker
So it's just like don't go unplugging wires. I've seen fucking leave the weapon. One, two, I've seen blown away, dude. You never know. But like it's the it's the it's basic like plastic C4 with ah two contacts in it. He pulls one out. It doesn't stop. So he puts it back, question mark. No, it's not back in.
01:54:49
Speaker
And then when George takes it here in a minute, he pulls the other one out and it still doesn't stop. I'm like, well, what's going to make this? Oh, before that, we didn't talk about. I just want I just real quick, like one of these things has to send electricity to this plastic, right? Yeah. It's behind it. Unless Rice knew how to set up some dummy wires. Yeah. He hooked up with Dennis Hopper and Tommy Lee Jones and he was like.
Fake Piloting and Comedy
01:55:10
Speaker
Here's how do I make a bomb? How do I get a dummy wire? And this is just for show. No, the only thing I want to go back to is now Dabney Coleman has volunteered to be a pilot, even though he's not a pilot. He's just like, look, dude, I cruchi i can taxi. ah He is licensed to taxi. I am like exactly that. I'm licensed to taxi. That's a terrible James Bond movie. Someone's like.
01:55:34
Speaker
Or a two Corey's ah Mr. Bond, you're going to be late for this fair. Because I'm not playing fair. It's definitely a Cory's movie too. But no, Dabney Coleman's like, look, my son's there, yada, yada. They're not waiting for a pilot. You're betting on my son's life. Yeah, and I'm not going to do that. And I can at least fake it.
01:55:52
Speaker
Yeah, you know, like that they're going to wonder why we're not taking off, but i'll I'll figure it out from there. I can taxi a plane, which means I can make it go forward. And sure enough, dude, ah he gets on the P.A. and he's he starts like kind of bullshitting. Hey, Tower,
E.T. Critiques and Production
01:56:06
Speaker
let me clear. And he's trying to get his son. Hey, Elliot, boy I know your name's not Elliot, but that's that movie you read, Elliot. Get up here, Elliot. Hey, it's his friend. But ah the old lady Jeanette is hearing it and she's like, wait, something's not right.
01:56:20
Speaker
Well, because he kept saying about a bomb. Well, no, she heard him talking. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, they're standing there holding him at gunpoint, too. They can hear him. But I just want to mention real quick in all the interviews we watched, everybody just kept saying E.T.'s best friend. They did. They weren't saying Henry Thomas. They were like, you know, I'm on a movie with E.T.'s best friend. What a fucking disrespect. Is it? Yeah. Who was the star of that movie? Henry henry Thomas or E.T.? ju Drew Barrymore. Stephen Spielberg.
01:56:47
Speaker
Because that we wouldn't have been anything if it wasn't Steven Spielberg. He's not wrong. It's still true. George Lucas to direct that show. Can we get a CG subulba instead of E.T.? What if E.T. walked on his hands and rode the hot rods? Henry, I see that you're crying because your alien friend is dying, but could you just stare blankly instead? That's how humans should act. OK, now I want you to say I hate Reese's Pieces. They get everywhere.
Unrealistic Plane Scene
01:57:17
Speaker
I need you to deliver this line. I wrote it down and it's perfect. I do want to mention real quick because we're doing George Lucas in this non-George Lucas movie. Wait, isn't Reese's Pieces in this one? No. It was in E.T. E.T. Yeah. Spoiler alert, we haven't recorded that episode yet. um But we will be.
01:57:36
Speaker
One of the I think it was the assistant director had i an interview that I watched and he said that Richard Franklin, the director here, was not great about the technical stuff like some directors are, but he was all about directing people, which I think might translate to why we really enjoyed this movie. Yeah, for Henry Thomas, Dabney Coleman, everybody putting in real effort because the director may not have been a technical director for an action thriller. but He had the second assistant director to help him with the other stuff. Yeah, exactly.
01:58:05
Speaker
And you get the thought of that because we we're talking about George Lucas, who doesn't know how humans speak, talk or act. He's not good at humaning. I mean, they literally they literally followed a kid for a week to see how his mannerisms were, how he articulated word, his cadence in talking. Yeah, part of the thing was figuring out his speech pattern. And the kids perform. Yeah, they definitely do so.
01:58:29
Speaker
But so, yeah, there's a whole thing with Henry Thomas trying to fuse the bomb, the back and forth with the old lady. Dude, I'm sorry. Dabney Coleman throws, drops his son out of the pilot's driver's side window. Oh my God, that is so high. That is
Dramatic Plane Escape
01:58:44
Speaker
so fucking high. But I love it in this- That drop was only like three feet. Yeah, in this movie, he like, so apparently, and this might be a real thing for like escape purposes, but in the cockpit of this jetliner, you just got to, you can roll the window down. No, I mean, it was a push out, but still, I mean, come on still. But so he hangs Harry Thomas out here. Thomas is like, you won't be able to fit that. And he's like, yeah, don't worry about it. I'm getting you out. And so he does spend an inordinate amount of time. There's only 10 seconds left on the bomb. And we got about two minutes left in this scene. But movie, he's hanging him down. And like when he lets him go, because you can't see the ground, it's black. And he lets him go. Harry Thomas falls maybe a foot. Yeah.
01:59:25
Speaker
But, like, I've seen a plane. I've seen Dumb and Dumber. I know how high the cockpit is. I've seen a plane. We just saw this plane moments ago from a wide shot. Even if he let him down as far as he could, you're still dropping a solid 20 feet. He might live, but he has no ankles. Because he says, I'm going to drop you, run away from the plane. I'm like, no, because when you drop him, he's going to break his ankle. What's he going to do? Slug away from the plane? Just tuck and roll and slug away, dude. okay When I drop you, you've got to slither.
01:59:53
Speaker
I listen to the dollop. He fucking army. crawl But so he drops him out of the plane. This plane almost runs over it. Yeah, which a good start again. Again, a great stunt. And again, it's probably the stunt man at this point. But just those wheels, I mean, they come within feet of this person. Yeah, they do.
02:00:13
Speaker
And the bomb has been at 10 seconds for about three minutes. So as soon as the plane rolls another 30 seconds, he's running after the plane now for like. and Yeah. Luckily, this kid can't run as fast as a plane in taxi. Well, these ankles are broken. It's only in first gear still faster than you, son. Big bada
Touching Conclusion
02:00:31
Speaker
boom.
02:00:32
Speaker
Yeah, how many gallons of gas was it? that He said something about like three hundred and something gallons of gasoline. and they And he's like, I wasn't there during like I wasn't the shot wasn't during the explosion. That's green screen or green screen, he said at the time. But he was there while they were doing the explosion. He's like, I felt the like percussion come from it.
02:00:52
Speaker
Uh-huh. Or the concussion. It's not playing drums. Fire rolls. Yeah. The explosion happened all of a sudden. It was like Joey Jordan was just going at me. My dad was just pounding away. Neil Perkz over there on a fucking kid. Yeah, I heard it after I said it. Cut it out. That's how you were born. Your dad was pounding away. There's this long...
02:01:18
Speaker
Massive explosion. It's like layers upon layers of explosion, which is always a good explosion. Oh, my God. i We love real explosions, too. yeah Yeah. And out of the fire comes walking a silhouette silhouette that looks like Jack Flack because it's got the little gray. But as it gets closer, it kind of changes. And you see that it's Dadney Coleman, not Jack Flack.
02:01:39
Speaker
Uh huh. He said Dadney. Because it's his dad. Not Daddy, but Dadney. And Dadney Coleman. Oh, he has the toy because Henry Thomas had smashed his Jack Flack toy earlier. Yeah, he did. He gives him the toy. and He's like, I don't need him anymore, Dad, because I have you. Good. Freeze frame. Yep. Freeze frame. I love a freeze frame.
02:02:01
Speaker
We love a freeze frame. I just love some people hate a freeze frame. I love it. Yeah, this is where it's like, give me a cartoon intro and a freeze frame for an ending. And I'm having a decent time. Forget about me. That did not have a cartoon intro. No, but I had a freeze frame. One of the most epic freeze frames. Iconic freeze frames. Was it not another teen movie where they do that, but then like it's not freeze frame? It was like, what what do yeah what are you doing? Just standing there. All right.
02:02:28
Speaker
We have Freeze Frame, end of the movie. So now
Nostalgia and Recommendations
02:02:31
Speaker
these two have bonded. He doesn't hate his dad anymore. He doesn't need an imaginary friend anymore. He doesn't need an imaginary friend. I'm going to give right to recommendations. This is a great Shipbird movie. It is. This is so much fun for 11-year-old, give or take, espionage, spy, actual spoken dagger shit. And he's not being a Shipbird. This is roughly my time. No, I just...
02:02:54
Speaker
Roughly. This is roughly my time, Whitney. ah You'll get your time here. Okay. but ah No, it's just... Point of order. You dropped the gun. This is the second... Second year we've done shipboard movies. Yes. And this is a fucking hoot, man. Yeah. I didn't wish it had Sinbad. That's saying something. Am I allowed to talk yet? I think you said that about every other shipboard movie. I'll allow it. Am I allowed? Yeah. That's your turn. I'm done. Give me some Jack's caveats. I don't need Jack's caveats. You don't. I don't need Jack's caveats. In the middle of this, there was one part when obviously every movie has a slow, everything slows down. For sure.
02:03:31
Speaker
plot where you have to listen, where I'm like, can you got up? And I was like, oh, are you getting whiskey? And you're like, I was going to grab a beer, but I'll grab whiskey. Yeah. Yeah. But no, I it was my first time actually seeing this full recommend. yeah I don't think you need Jack's caveats in it. I don't think so either. It helps. but i But it punches it up like Jack punches everything else up. Yeah. So you can do it without if you want to punch it up. Take his caveats, man.
02:03:59
Speaker
I mean, as far as Jack's caveats go, sorry, I don't mean to cut you off, but the one thing I was trying to say, he's not a fucking shitbird in this. Oh, really? Not. He's really not. Neither of these children are a shitbird compared to what we've done compared to what we've done. Nobody is believing what he is saying.
02:04:15
Speaker
So as far as Jack's caveats go, friends will make this better, but you don't need to be drinking or smoking like I mean, it wouldn't hurt fully. No, it crunches it up. But it's it's a fucking fun movie. It is. And for me, this is one of those ones that I hadn't watched, which we mentioned already. um It was a vinegar syndrome movie. So my straight assumption is this is probably not great, but I'm probably going to like it.
02:04:45
Speaker
because I like a lot of their shit and it's not good. um But drinking, having friends, that stuff will help. I wish I'd seen this as a kid. Oh, this would be a classic in my life. Yeah. And I mean, I saw a lot
Movie Availability and Ratings
02:05:02
Speaker
of reviews on Letterboxd that were people are like, oh, I didn't see this as a kid. I saw it in 2020 or whatever. And like, I hate it.
02:05:10
Speaker
No, they're wrong. Put that lens on and you're wrong. But also, I don't need the lens. Yeah, it was a good movie. It was very fun. I think we live with that lens. I think that's our thing. But I also for this didn't need it. Like this is just a good movie, like Derek saying, like the stunts are there. The practicality is there. The script is fine. The acting is amazing.
02:05:30
Speaker
The writer Tom Holland mentioned in the interview, I watched with him that, um you know, he has a thing in each script where he wants to put in four to five action pieces where it's like it moves the movie forward, but it doesn't have dialogue. Yeah. So you're talking about pages worth of just action. And this has that mission. Mission accomplished. Yeah. So it's really, really good. I highly recommend this is a full recommend, kids.
02:05:57
Speaker
You can you can get this movie. I mean, it's not free streaming anywhere right now, but you can get it on Amazon, Google, YouTube. Oh, this is worth the rent. All that. I mean, three seventy nine to rent on Amazon. Easy. So do it for ninety nine to buy. Just so easy. Probably buy it. Are you going to go home and buy this for that dollar? For that dollar 20. There's a chance because it's PG. I can watch this with bleep. I was going to say, can you watch this with bleep? She'd be bored.
02:06:26
Speaker
Would she? Yeah. There's no cartoon penguins. Yeah, she's a kid. This is for us. They all need CG penguins. We grew up with this shit, so. Yup. But I highly recommend it. I thought it was really, really good. You're not gonna get a better action espionage movie with children. With shitbirds.
02:06:45
Speaker
I know spy kids trying to do it. Now, the reason I said, eh, when Whitney said that he's not a ship bird, is at the beginning he totally is. Because he's like, well, mom would do this. Mom would do that. That's not being a ship bird. Yes, it is. It's not being a ship bird. It's being a heartbroken kid. It's not your dad's fault your mom is dead, probably. No, but it's his fault for not. We don't know. The dad wouldn't listen to him. Yeah, and I mean, I get it. But dad would cut him off in the middle of him talking. But boy who cried wolf.
02:07:13
Speaker
Yeah, that's not what it was supposed to be, though. I think it was originally. It was originally, but he was like, let's take it away from that. Well, that's why they didn't believe him because he was always talking about spy shit and everybody was like, OK, spy. What are your games again?
02:07:27
Speaker
But either way, great movie. Plus, you get William Forsythe. Yeah. No
Upcoming Episodes and Sign-off
02:07:32
Speaker
point of order. point of order Bill Bill George. I don't care. Any movie any movie he shows up in has an extra star. Yes. Yes. Yes. An extra thumb you say. If you go find me on letterbox at Durga 5 2 0. I haven't rated this yet, but I'm going to say a solid four to four and a half. Yeah, I see. Yeah, it's pretty easy. and half My qualms are few.
02:07:56
Speaker
Yeah. So check this out. You don't have to buy the disc that I got. You can just get it for four to five dollars on Amazon. Just go do that. But so next week we continue. We we conclude Shitbird Month. What we got with our Durga classic movie.
02:08:14
Speaker
that I wasn't sure we should do, but we're going to do it. Oh, we're bringing leaving it out. We're nope. I'm telling you right now. All right. I believed it last time. We're bringing our Disney expert Vern back who has not been on for a Disney movie, but he is our Disney expert. Yes, he is. ah We're doing Song of the South from 1946. I believe I'm going to drink some boy bin.
02:08:39
Speaker
Uh, it's going to be a touchy time. Yeah. And don't forget, that means I get to sit next to Vern so I can touch him. Luckily, we are very sensitive people. Yeah, I know. Yeah. I from what I know, because I've never actually seen the full movie, I know everybody knows. zipy doda Right. And there's been other musical parts that have been included in Disney montages. But from what I know, this is a movie about how slaves really thought it was cool to be slaves and make white kids feel better. What a wild form of propaganda. Yeah, that's so bad. We're going to get there. I I I have this on Blu-ray. Of course you do. I wouldn't say that. No, you have literally everything on Blu-ray. But I was one of those things where someone offered it and I was like, this is a piece of cinematic history that I feel like is worth
02:09:33
Speaker
seeing it's worth and it's full. It's it's worth not deleting just to know where just to know where we were. And yeah, exactly. Exactly. Our lives. But the world was. There's no way this is enjoyable, but it'll probably have some kick in songs. I hope I have fun with you guys.
02:09:51
Speaker
And then our Patreon, which I've mentioned before, Patreon dot com slash worst people three dollars a month. Check that out. You get a lot of episodes. But this month's episode is E.T. the extraterrestrial, also starring Henry Thomas, directed by Steven Spielberg. You've probably seen it if you're alive and you're listening to this. Have you ever owned a TV? OK, I have a question on that movie for Drucker Classic. Are we going to do a shot of the beer every time they do something racist? Do you want me to die?
02:10:21
Speaker
during the movie. Yeah, that'll be a messy episode. I said a shot of beer. Yeah. Yeah. He said what I said. He understood what you said and said what he said. And I also believe that this version of E.T. that I have, which is the newer 4K release, has the original the guns that were replaced by Waki Takis re replaced by guns. Nice. I believe. Yeah. And if it doesn't, we're going to pretend they're their guns. I will talk about the guns. So thank you to Evasion for providing our opening and closing music. You can give them some money on Bandcamp, Spotify, et cetera. Check them out. They're great. Thank you guys for tuning in. I've been Derek. I'm still Whitney. I'm America's ass. Good night and go flack yourself.
02:11:35
Speaker
Unless you want to see a shaved down Grinch masturbate on the couch, don't haunt my house. I'm going to haunt your house now.