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Strategy Round Table with Special Guest DT Lemon | Player Discussion | AFL Fantasy Q&A | #PODPOD
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Gather Round has been and gone and what a crazy week we had for AFL Fantasy with a return to a best 22 team. Popular rookies such as Sharp, Reid and Dempsey ensured that coaches with a ‘guns and rookies’ approach kept their season rolling in the right direction, with many monster scores from popular premiums such as Bontempelli, Rozee and Sheezel meaning there were some monster scores from coaches that were able to pull away from the pack!! With two weeks of best 18 systems to go including this week that sees many popular premiums on a bye, it is time to see which coaches have been disciplined with their planning and who may be caught swimming naked when the tide goes out heading towards round 7!!!
Join two time top ten finisher and runner up Harmey, two time top ten finisher Holmesy, the ever consistent Lewy and special guest, two time hat winner and gun coach DT Lemon as they sit down round table style and discuss all of the key strategies heading into round 5. This episode is not one to miss as they not only discuss a plan for this week, but how best to navigate and plan your trades so that you are best placed to exit the byes at round 7. Contents include a strategy round table, key player discussion and answering a bunch of listener strategy questions!!!
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Transcript
Introduction & Weekend Recap
00:00:19
Speaker
G'day and welcome to the Pod Pod. It's Holmsey here talking all things AFL fantasy classic live for you on this Monday night, 8th of April at the conclusion of round four. Gather around. What a big round of footy lads. Before we get into the introductions, Lee, I just want to check in with you. How have you pulled up after your massive weekend to gather around? How many games did you get to and were you a bit dusty today?
00:00:45
Speaker
Uh, yeah, I actually only got to the three, but, um, yeah, attended plenty of events. So, um, I had a pretty good time. That's for sure. I think that was, uh, documented a bit on the X, uh, a few rough mornings, but we back it up. That's okay. And we go again. Bit like our fantasy teams.
00:01:03
Speaker
Yeah, I love that for you, mate. I'm sure we maybe will skip a few of your insights for this weekend after you probably didn't actually get to watch too much of the footy closely, but very, very jealous that you're able to soak in that atmosphere. It looked unreal, and hopefully I can get over there next year. I think that'll be a very good time. As always, two-time top 10 finisher, Hami. Got you on the pod again, mate. How are you? How was your weekend?
00:01:29
Speaker
Yeah, good things, Holmes. Yeah, it was pretty good. I actually saw probably more footy than Lewy by the sands of it on the weekend. But no, good weekend and yeah, pretty good. So with some high top end scoring wasn't there on the weekend. So that was a good, good week of fantasy. Did you, did you happen to catch the game on Friday night? Those Bombers boys were pretty good, Harvey.
00:01:51
Speaker
You know what, I sat through the whole thing just because I had Connor Rose's, my captain, and he was killing it. He was untouchable. So yeah, that was a positive for the night, the only positive. And of course, you would have traded in Nick Martin, right? Incorrect there, Hosey. No, I traded in Harvey Thomas instead, my number one trade target.
00:02:14
Speaker
Oh, geez. All right. Well, there's always 20, 25, Harmony. We'll pack up. We'll go again. We'll go again. It's all
Guest Introduction: DT Lemon & Performance Highlights
00:02:20
Speaker
good. And we have a very special guest with us today. We've got DT Lemon. You all know him from Twitter as was it third in 2021 and multiple hats and an absolute gun of the coach. So Lemon, thanks for joining us today, mate. And how are you tracking at the moment?
00:02:38
Speaker
Yeah, thanks everyone guys. It's great to chat fantasy as always. I think normally I'm on this podcast, just one-on-one with Holmsey. So it's nice to meet the rest of you and hopefully I won't get so many sticky questions from Holmsey this time. So we'll see how we go.
00:02:55
Speaker
Yeah, and it feels like we're at the friend stage now where I can introduce you to my other friends, Lemon, and it not be too bad. So thanks for jumping on and now really looking forward to getting your insights as you are. We'll get to, but you're going very well and that team value as you always do is tracking in the right direction. So let's review our rounds. We'll go over our scores and our ranks and then we'll check back a bit later for our plus three and negative three. So Lemon, I'll start with you. How'd you score this week and where are you currently ranked?
00:03:23
Speaker
Yeah, I had a nice score of 2193, which I was pretty happy with. This was going to be a tough round for me. That moves my overall rank up to just over 3K. So just been the last two weeks.
00:03:36
Speaker
making good progress getting up to that sort of top thousand, top hundred area. Plus three for me was definitely Jack Steele as captain. I had, I was in the weird position of having 30 green dots this week, so I needed to nail the captain and he delivered, so I was pretty happy there. And negative three, maybe a bit rough because he's a rookie, but McCurcher
00:03:59
Speaker
Moving into the midfield, I thought that shouldn't be, that shouldn't be too bad. He's a good scorer from juniors, but only a 50, I think he had zero marks as well, which just is just horrible. You hate to see that. So I'm probably like a lot of coaches, I'm hoping he gets moved back to the half backline where he can rack up some plus sixes. So yeah, otherwise, pretty good, pretty good week.
00:04:22
Speaker
Yeah, very good from you, mate. And we'll touch on a bit later about your genius trade move where all of us have pretty well stuffed it, but we'll hold that for later. Lou, a bit more of a smile on your face this week.
Player Strategies & Trade Decisions
00:04:34
Speaker
Why don't you tell the listeners how you went?
00:04:37
Speaker
Always a smile on my face, mate. If you don't smile, you'll cry. I got the 2205, which I was pretty happy to notch up. Obviously, 22 players on the ground this week. That means I went at basically a ton across the board there, which is nice to see. That halved my ranking again. It came in from about 21,000 last week to 9,521. Hopefully, that's a trend and it can keep heading in that direction.
00:05:07
Speaker
Yeah, beautiful mate. Inside the top 10K, which is very good to see. Still with a lot to shake out over these next two buy rounds. Why don't you give us your plus three and negative three while I've got you? My plus three, I'm going to give it to Jeremy Sharp. I sort of made it a bit of a goal of mine this week to get that fourth rookie on the field. I certainly wasn't expecting a 106. I was just trying to avoid some of those poor rookie scores, which actually
00:05:36
Speaker
in the forward line ended up being quite good. That being said, still happy to be rewarded with that, so I'll give it to Sharpe. Then my negative three, I've got negative three, Rosie, so I'm not sure why I've done it that way, but I reckon I'll give it to Massimo Dim Rosio. What scored the 55, brought him in two weeks ago. He's made about 45K for me.
00:05:57
Speaker
I wasn't expecting him to keep notching up 90s every week, but that cash generation has been stunted. That being said, I'm pretty glad to see the back of Akonabudurik, who are traded out for him. So, can't complain too much there, but yeah, he's going to go his way, I think.
00:06:15
Speaker
Yeah, beautiful. I'll go next. So I had a 22.15 this week, and that's brought my ranking up from 752 into 308. So I'm really happy with how the ranking's sitting at the moment. It's 308.
00:06:32
Speaker
Look at you, up and about. Yeah, a bit different from last year. It's making this a little bit more enjoyable. I'll give you the hot tip. But yeah, a few issues to sort out as everyone does, but I'm pretty happy with how the team is tracking at this point in time.
00:06:47
Speaker
My plus three, I was going to give it to Jack Steele as my captain, the same as Lemon, but I'll go with his Saints teammate, Nasiah Wanganyin-Miller, for his 127. It's a very rare opportunity where you just keep refreshing the scores and your players just keep going up and up and up. And that was just a beautiful thing to see on Sunday. And that was a big reason why I was able to charge home.
00:07:09
Speaker
My negative three, what do we got down here? Low hanging fruit. I'm going to give it to Zach Williams. 69, potential injury, looking sore. Not sure we're going to get too much cash out of him, but yeah, at the moment, still happy to hold as long as he gets through and actually plays this week. But Hami, as the top scorer on the pod this week, how did your round go?
00:07:34
Speaker
Yeah, I had a pretty good round, mate. I scored 2, 2, 2, 2, but you got me for ranking. Let's have a look. That's right, we recorded early last week, and I ended up being about 7,200, and that's brought me into 2, 5, 4, 4, so winning fair bit in the end, so that was a good result. Plus three, yeah, well, Rosie did it against the bomber, so I won't give it to him. I'll go bot 149.
00:08:02
Speaker
And he was so impressive. He almost, you know, willed them over the line against the cats. So, yeah, 149. That sort of repaid the faith from, I never really looked at trading him out, although, you know, gather some people did. The negative three, James Jordan. This was a tough one last week. I made the decision that I needed to get out Fife and Jordan over the next few weeks.
00:08:25
Speaker
because they both weren't really doing what I wanted, and the cash growth was stunted anyway. But I made the wrong choice, and I kept Jordan against the Eagles. I thought he might put up a decent score, but he didn't, and he looked crap, and I'll be glad to see the back of him in my team. So this week. Even Harvey Thomas turned up versus the Eagles, didn't he? Yeah. Yeah, it's easy against the Eagles, except for if you're James Jordan. I was thinking he was going to get subbed, like, oh.
00:08:54
Speaker
He wasn't having a good run. That was hard to watch. After the game, a little bit of an adjustment there. It's a whole lot worse when you see a five in front of it. A 60 is not much better, but it saved it a bit there.
00:09:09
Speaker
Yeah, yeah, not good at all. Bit of a Pod Pod family update. So, Stado this week had a score of 2133, which brings his rank into 4170. So, the Fos still in a pretty good spot despite being overseas and probably not watching a whole lot of footy at this stage. So, keen to see how he keeps attacking this season. And DOS watch.
00:09:32
Speaker
22-01, probably the first time ever that he scored above 2,200, I would have thought. And that's brought his rank into 12,787. So he's broken the... Oh, I'm sure he's going to go there this week. I'm sure he's going to go there this week, but he's broken the algorithm, the 20K. All it took was for him to leave and go to supercoach and now he's actually prospering. So good on you, Dossie. Hopefully you'll keep climbing, which will be good to see.
Pod Challenge & Content Creators Cup Update
00:10:02
Speaker
Moving on, just a quick update of the Pod Pod Challenge. So currently, 21 coaches inside the top 100. So Pod Pod listeners are absolutely flying at the moment, and that includes four coaches that we currently have inside the top 10. So we've got Steven's team sitting at six, Jordan's team sitting at seven, Josh's at eight, and then I think that's Bowden or Baden sitting at number nine. So four, some really highly ranked coaches at the moment in the Pod Pod family.
00:10:32
Speaker
Yeah, it's really good to see. So hopefully we can keep giving out the good advice and they can keep working, Luke. Yeah, I've heard six is afraid of seven in that lot too. So obviously seven, eight, nine. It's good to see four coaches in the top 10 there. Far out. He has a good week and all of a sudden he's back with those jokes, Luke. Good to good to see you up and about, mate. Hami, I'm going to throw to you for this one for your Content Creators Cup update that we know you love to give.
00:11:02
Speaker
Geez, you've caught me off guard there, Holmesy, but I can do it. They're in the show dock, mate. They're in the show dock. Have a look. Oh, okay. Thanks. Oh, geez. Army, you've cooked us here, mate. No, it's all right. Content Creators Cup. Here we go. Brought to you by Infinite Wealth. Let's have a look. Surely, I've got a win. Yeah, got a win over Luke from the Ball Boys. So that was good. Stato got a win just over Nathan from HatChat.
00:11:32
Speaker
Louis got a big win over Reeds, his colleague at the coaches panel. And then obviously, this is why you wanted to bring it up, Holmesy, because you got a decent win over Roy, who actually almost scored 2,200 himself. So there's some big scores in that league. So some pretty well-credentialed coaches.
00:11:54
Speaker
Yeah, I think Guestie was going through some of the stats on their podcast last night. And I think we've got me, DC, and Roy that are all sitting inside the top 500. And then there's a couple others that are just outside 1K. And yeah, that league's flying at the moment. So it's good to see some of the content creators up and about. And hopefully we can continue pushing through towards hopefully the top 100. So yeah, very, very good.
00:12:18
Speaker
All
Trading Strategies & Upgrade Season
00:12:19
Speaker
right, lads. So we've got Lemon on today. So what I thought we would do, we're going to have a bit of a strategy roundtable. We're going to combine the hot topics. I've asked each of you to bring sort of a strategy thought, and we're just going to sort of discuss this roundtable. So I'm going to throw to you first, Lemon. Take us away with your sort of strategy talk.
00:12:38
Speaker
Yeah, so I think this time of year, we've sort of corrected a few of the bad picks early on. And now we're getting to the sort of luxury trade or upgrade season, kind of part of the season. So I think I'm really interested to know how you guys are going to approach it. I've certainly got a bit of a strategy for the next couple of weeks. But, you know, when do we trade the mid prices versus those rookies?
00:13:02
Speaker
do you target who you're bringing in or do you just try and get rid of the two, kind of, two guys about to lose cash in your team? How do you, how do you approach your, your upgrade season the next, you know, 5-6 weeks, that is, until we have a completed team? Hami, have you got any, give us any insight into your strategy there?
00:13:23
Speaker
Yeah, my strategy is I guess along a similar line, mate, the I'm sort of looking at the rookies that are topping out that are going to look to try and move on. But I can talk to my team a little bit if you like. So I've still got two rookies in a forward line and my aim is to get one of them off field by
00:13:42
Speaker
the time we get out of these early buys. So I also have Luke Jackson, so I'm a little bit uncertain about whether he's going to last too much longer if Sean Darcy's coming back. But he'll come in handy to cover Max Gorn, I reckon, in two weeks. So yeah, that's probably where I'm at. I see myself getting one of those rookies off field in the forward line.
00:14:07
Speaker
and cleaning up some of those rookies. I mean it's only really Zach Reed that I've got that he's not playing at the moment but I've just made a few bad choices with my rookies so some of them are starting to top out and I've got to look at
00:14:23
Speaker
recycling them. It was a bit of a shame that Kay McCauliff didn't score a bit better because I was quite keen on what he might do, giving up his sort of put over 30 disposals in both his VFL games so far this year. But the son's rookies coming through looked quite good. So I think we're going to have some options there. But yeah, that's where I'm at. Targeting people
00:14:46
Speaker
Oh, look, there's a few people that are starting to drop a bit of cash that have been keeping an eye on you, Tim Taranto, Clayton Oliver types. So that's not an option for me this week. But yeah, next week and the one after I'll probably be targeting somebody there. And I've also got a bit of an eye on those DPPs. So
00:15:05
Speaker
I'm not going to worry too much about my back line because I reckon by the time I get a position to be able to piss off Massimo, I'll have Riley Bonnar or McCurcher go to the back line anyway. So I'm not too stressed about my back line at this point. Or Nick Martin there, Hammeh. You missed him? If I had him, yeah. I love that. I think that's such a great way to look at it with two more buy rounds, best 18, and then
00:15:32
Speaker
you hit that Round 7, what's your team going to look like? Where are the rookies going to be on field? And as you said, you know, we're going to have a heap of defensive DPP players. So then you maybe you can trade out these Massimo, Zach Williams, whoever you've got in that D5, D6 spot and bringing, you know, a couple of big dog midfielders in the maybe before Round 7 or maybe even earlier Round 6.
00:15:54
Speaker
Um, yeah, I like that. I like that approach. I'm very similar. I think, um, I think just sort of tracking which rookies are going to be peaking in the next week or two, couple of weeks, same with mid prices and just trying to move them out as quickly as you can have a bit of a priority list for them. Um, any, any thoughts on that, Louie?
00:16:12
Speaker
No, I think you boys have nailed it there. We sort of know what best 18 is about at this stage. I think the main difference that we get from it is towards the top end of that 18, whereas the bottom end, the rookies sort of sort themselves out. We've seen that the rookies can score reasonably well and for the most part, we all do have sort of similar rookies.
00:16:34
Speaker
with them making up that bottom end, I think the difference really comes from that top end. So the next couple of weeks I won't be silly with it, but I won't be afraid to make a few harsher calls on potentially some of these rookies and bring some of these middling mid prices, be it a Massimo or Williams or Fisher, all the way up to some of these under priced premiums that I'm sure we'll talk about a little bit later on in the show.
00:17:00
Speaker
Lou, you said you might make some difficult decisions with your rookies. So I'll tell you how I started the week last week. I was looking at a Darcy Wilson or a Harley Reid going out, but I changed tact on that and I'm bloody glad I did. But is that the sort of thing you mean? You're making some decisions around the guys that have scored okay, but rather than holding them a few weeks extra, you'll cash them out and look to upgrade. Is that what you mean?
00:17:26
Speaker
Yeah, yeah, that's pretty much where I'm at, mate. I'm not even against looking at going early on someone like a McCurcher. I know he's probably the one that's got the greatest scoring ability, but we've seen in previous years where sometimes if we can get off these guys that maybe don't have as much cash to make, and he might throw that in my face, but I think getting those points on the board as quickly as possible can be a real advantage as well.
00:17:52
Speaker
It'd be like when I traded at Harry Sheezer early last year to get off him, to get an upgrade to Jake Lloyd or something stupid like that, wasn't it? And then I've traded him back in. Yeah, that sort of stuff can hurt. But then there's countless examples of where it's actually worked the opposite way for us. I think there was one rookie in your year where you came second, Holmsey, where you got off really early. And he'd still made money after that.
00:18:19
Speaker
The points on the board that you were getting week to week were just pretty much nullifying at all.
00:18:24
Speaker
Yeah. Well, that, that was Tom Powell that year. So he was the, one of the number one rookies for us. I think in the midfield, he came out, I think he had two tons in his first four games and was, was averaging pretty much 75 to 80. Um, but as we know that these first year rookies tend to tire and, uh, the week I got off him early, uh, he popped a 40 and then I was away. So absolutely. I think that could be a play with McCurcher, especially if this midfield role holds up, I don't think he's going to have as much easy ball.
00:18:51
Speaker
in the midfield compared to when he's playing on that half back line. But I think the point comes back to what Lemon and Harmony were making is during this sort of upgrade season. I'm not sure we're quite there yet, but you need to have a look at how you plan to structure your team coming out of round seven or round six when they're coming into round seven, sorry. And for me, that kind of looks like the three mid rookies, whether it be a Roberts, a Sanders, and then a Sharp.
00:19:17
Speaker
If there's no room for a Mercurcher, if Mercurcher and Sharpe are going to be scoring pretty much the same, then absolutely, I'm happy to go off Mercurcher early to get up to someone bigger. I think that's absolutely a play. And you just need to make sure that if you are going to go up on some of these mid prices this week, think of Williams, Massimo, Jordan, that you are not going to leave yourself short come round seven because these rookies that we have on the bench haven't made enough cash yet to make any meaningful upgrades. So I think you
00:19:46
Speaker
your lads have nailed that point perfectly. Lemon, I'll stick with you before we move to Harmony for his sort of little strategy point. You've put in here double downgrade. You want to discuss whether this could be the week to double downgrade, which I'm a little bit curious about because we spoke or we touched on it before. You actually went early on Closie last week. So if you're if you're considering a double downgrade this week, who are those two rookies that you'd be considering this week considering we're all looking at Closie and you've got in? Yeah, so
00:20:15
Speaker
Definitely, I won't be doing a double downgrow this week. I banked a little bit of cash last week with a double down. So I picked up, I picked up closing and I picked up Harvey Gallagher. So I think I banked, you know, just under $200K. And then that's, that allows me to have a bit more flexibility with trades this week. I can bring in a big midfielder if I want, or I can bring in a Flanders. And, and for me, that's something I've done, I think, around this time, every, every year for the last couple, just so I can, instead of bringing in a guy that won't be a keeper, you can really
00:20:44
Speaker
target like a Bontum Pelly or a Flanders or someone that you know is going to be top of the line, you know, you can just lock them away for the rest of the year, instead of targeting that, you know, taking a haircut and trying to pick up that guy that might not be top of the line. I think that it does have a little bit of pain in the short term. But I think if the rookies are right, you know, if you're confident in two rookies this week, I wouldn't, I wouldn't have any problem doing a double downgrade and then doing a perfect upgrade next week.
00:21:14
Speaker
Yeah, I did something sort of not like that, but a little bit similar last week when I downgraded five to Ollie Dempsey, and then I cashed out one of my rookies. So I was sort of setting myself up for this week too, but I've now fallen a few thousand short. But anyway, that's the same principle. And I think it was last year or the year before, Lemon, I actually pulled it.
00:21:39
Speaker
from you, like you've got to be trying to get to the top liners. And that's what I figured this week, that I would be getting either FIFO or Jordan up to somebody who's going to be a keeper. So, you know, what are we now? Round four or so. We're four rounds in. As you say, we can do our corrections. They're sort of all done. Now we should really be shooting for those top liners and not tinkering around with the mid price options because it's pretty rare that they really pay off.
00:22:07
Speaker
It's really important though, Harmony Steel, that we do talk about these top liners, but have a lot of these guys come down enough to really be valued. We're going to go through a lot of the top line premiums soon and what they're priced at. But you think about a bond. Yes, he's lost cash on his starting price, but he's still priced at
Premium Players Discussion
00:22:23
Speaker
$116. So if you want to target a bond, you've got to be very confident that he's going to go sort of $120 plus from here because he's still priced at $116, which is a pretty high price tag. So I think
00:22:35
Speaker
Yes, we're starting to go into upgrade season where we can get to some of these top liners, but I think you still need to be careful about where you go and still trying to find some kind of value. Otherwise, you will fall short in the long run. Would you agree that?
00:22:48
Speaker
Yeah, yeah, I do agree with you, mate. You've got to be selective. You're not going to jump on anybody. I think last week I threw out Shay Bolton as an option. He was down about 80,000 on his starting price, and he popped a 120. He's already on the way back up. I think he made 20,000 last week. So there's people there in the mix.
00:23:06
Speaker
Look, Taranto, he's down 120,000. Yeah, Bont. Yeah, we know Clary as well. Yeah, Clary. Nick Daikos, he's going to be a target coming up for us. He's down about 50 grand, or actually more actually. Must be about 80,000 now. On his starting price, Errol Gordon, he's a bloody good option. From what I can see, he's down to about 90,000 on his starting price too. So there is a few, mate.
00:23:33
Speaker
Yep. Yep. Fair enough. Uh, Lou, what do you want to sort of touch on with your strategy chat? Oh, no, it was, it was pretty much what I said before with the best 18 and just wanting to prioritize that, that upper end, if I can, and, um, not being afraid to get aggressive to do it. Yeah. And that kind of ties in this week. There's going to be so many coaches that have a lot of players out. You know, I think Heaney is very popular. Daycost is very popular. Grundy still popular.
00:24:00
Speaker
We've got Roberts, we've got a Jordan. Don't be afraid to still attack this week. I know I'm someone that's looking at having a Harvey Thomas as one of my players on field in the 22, but that's not necessarily a bad thing with, you know, if he's your 22nd and he's dropping off, then it really doesn't matter. A lot of us are going to be in the same boat.
00:24:20
Speaker
So I know it's tempting to look at the double downgrade to try and potentially get maybe a Loman or a Combin or someone like that on field. But if you put those players on field and they're not really in your best 22 anyway, then you're not maximizing your score this week. And that type of rookie can easily be dropped or be subbed the week after anyway, as we've seen with a Harvey Thomas. So you need to be really careful.
00:24:45
Speaker
With this best day team, we're in a very unique situation and I think you've still got to try and attack one down, one up in some kind of a way to improve your side on field, Hammy. So you'll have him on field if he gets named, Hamsy?
00:25:00
Speaker
That's because I don't have any other choice after Lazaro got dropped last week. So I'm not having him on field because I need him to be one of my scorers. It would just be a throw at the stumps. I could leave him on the bench in protest and just play 21. I don't think it's going to change anything, but you may as well have him on there. And who knows that there might be another miracle. But yeah, I think with the players we have in the best 18 system, I don't think it's the worst thing to keep attacking.
00:25:30
Speaker
Let's move on now. What we're going to do is we're going to chat some players. We've got some premiums, we've got some cash generators, and then we're going to have a look at some players that might be time to go as well. So let's start at the top end. I'll start with you, Lemon. So I'm going to throw you three premiums here, and I want you to discuss any points you're kind of interested in. So we've got Bon, who's now priced at 116 with a break-even of 106. So he's
00:25:55
Speaker
probably back on the way up after that Monster 149 and playing the Bombers who are horrendous, Hami. We've got Andy Brayshaw off the back of a 148, now priced at 112 with a breakeven of 108. So he's on the way back up as well. And then I'll throw you with Zach Merritt, very, very highly priced at the moment, priced at 122 with a breakeven just under that. So he's fully priced, but he's someone that just absolutely keeps getting it done.
00:26:20
Speaker
any of these players of interest to you, Lennon, this week's speaking on that you're potentially looking at a midfield gun.
00:26:27
Speaker
Yeah, I think definitely Zach Merritt, I could rule out. I think, as you said, he's fully priced, 120, not many guys go 120 for the year. So if you started him, it's a great pick and you want to ride that as hopefully the whole season, but I wouldn't be trading it to Zach Merritt this week. But I think, I actually think Bontempelli and Brayshore could both be options this week. Obviously Andy Brayshore has the great buy round in the mid-season buys and anytime you can lock away a premium,
00:26:55
Speaker
with a good buy round, you're just setting yourself up to save 30, 40 points later on. So I think that'll sort of help sweeten the deal a bit with Brayshore. And Bonton Pelly priced at 116. Yeah, that's a lot to pay for him, but he's got a great run coming up. It looks like he's maybe coming to a bit of form. So he's the kind of guy that could go 120, 130 for the next couple of weeks, gives you a great captain option. And it might sort of just
00:27:22
Speaker
Yeah, it's a lot to pay, but it might just get you through the next four or five weeks and then you can really attack some of these other guys that are going to be dropping in price. Hami, is there any chance that a Setterfield runs runs with him this week and he goes from a 150 down to a 140? Did you see Louis would have seen this in the second quarter last weekend when Setterfield was manning up on Connor Rosie and he absolutely torched us. So I'm not sure if it's going to make much difference.
00:27:52
Speaker
Yeah, yeah. Bont's going huge this week. Absolute big, big, big target. And I think that point Lemon makes about the captaincy option as well. Has a couple of, I know he's got an early game this week, so perfect vice captain. So yeah, definitely coaches can look to go there.
00:28:08
Speaker
I'm going to throw to you here. I'm going to give you a pair of Rockman. So Rowan Marshall priced at 117 with a break even essentially the same, but then Tim English priced just a little bit below, but with a break even of 147 for Grundy owners looking to attack, can they go there this week to either one of those players?
00:28:26
Speaker
Well see, if you're going to ask me between the two, English is probably the one that's going to be unlucky. Hasn't started the season off in amazing form. He's still scoring well as he often does, but now he's gotten his break even up to that 142. I think he's going to come down potentially 50k over the next couple of weeks and he might be someone that
00:28:48
Speaker
potentially is a decent pivot from Gorn next week even then I think he might take a few more weeks but Rowan Marshall is one on I'm seriously bullish on he's got Kieran Briggs this week GWS giants then he comes up against Tim English himself of course who gives up plenty of points and then Port Adelaide and North Melbourne I'm not sure where they sort of sit on the on the difficulty rating but
00:29:13
Speaker
I think Rohan Marshall is one that we've seen has this frightening ceiling and he's also one that we can put a VC and a C on pretty confidently more weeks than most. So I think he's bottomed out now. He had a massive quarter in the third quarter on the weekend. It was like 50 points after a bit of a slow first half and
00:29:34
Speaker
That just shows you his scoring potential. So his next two match ups, I think is well and truly it is probably bottom price at the moment and you can jump on now. Do you think there's any worry at all with Tom Campbell coming in to share a bit of ruck time to help him get through the season? We heard it all last year and it never happened, but the words are still there. We know that he tied towards the end of the year and they couldn't get it done in finals. Would it be a disaster if that happened?
00:30:04
Speaker
Oh look, you do probably have to take it on face value if Ross is saying that I'm not going to discount that it's not going to happen just based on last season. Does it affect him? I'm not sure. I think he'll still have the majority of that ruck time anyway, but he's also very capable forward. In fact, I think even in his junior days, that was sort of what he was doing very early on. But Lemma, it looks like you've got two cents to add there, mate.
00:30:30
Speaker
Yeah, I think I had a look at Marshall this week and I think he had quite a low rut contest percentage. So it looks like maybe Kamen Eddy took a few more rut contests than normal. Now obviously he still scored well but
00:30:45
Speaker
Yes, I think it was down at 65%, which is quite low for him. Again, that might, that might have just been the game. Maybe there were a few more stored, uh, forward 50 stoppages that Cam and Edie took, but, um, it's something, you know, I think Ross saying that, and then coupled with the right contest percentage, um, you know, if they get a game where he's the other thing to consider, I guess last year, I think they had a game where they won by a bit. He was subbed out at three quarter time. So.
00:31:10
Speaker
I wouldn't be surprised if he cops a, cops a vest in the, in the coming weeks, if they, if they're up by, you know, 40, 50 points at three-quarter time, or maybe they just bring in Tom Campbell for one week and he rests forward a little bit and they sub him out then. Um, but yeah, it's, how do you know? How do you know? Yeah, that'd be a disaster. I do wonder if the rut contest is based on where they played and all, but it's very,
00:31:36
Speaker
straight down the middle and, uh, you know, he doesn't want to be doing buddy shuttle runs all day, I suppose. And maybe cam and 80 did just, um, chip in there, but you are, you are right. Last season, that was the case. And, uh, they are saying that they want to look after him, say it's potentially in the finals mix. And I think, uh, if they're going to give him a break, it's, it's probably going to be, um, earlier rather than later when they need to get a run on in terms of form.
00:32:03
Speaker
Beautiful. Before we move on to some cash generators, I'm going to throw you three premiums here, all priced at 113 to 112. Jack Steele, Connor Rosie and Josh Dunkley. Is there any interest for these three players?
00:32:18
Speaker
Yeah well I own Steel and Rosie. I started with both of those guys so I'm liking what I am seeing from both of them but you've got to remember I got them a probably bit cheaper. Steel definitely cheaper. Dunkley's an interesting one. I'm pretty keen on him. Now he's got his buy out of the way. I think that he could
00:32:40
Speaker
It could be good, but look, I think you have to have a look at the run of both players. I know that Port have still got a few games at home. So, Rosie, I don't see anything changing much for Rosie. Steele, yeah, probably Rosie, Steele and Dunkley in that order. But if I have a guess, I reckon Dunkley is going to have the lowest ownership out of the three. So, not sure if that plays a part in your decision. Look at the moment,
00:33:08
Speaker
probably not looking at any of those type of players as I tried in at the minute, but yeah, they're both going to score well from here on in.
00:33:17
Speaker
Yep. Agree there. Harm me. All right. Uh, let's move on to some cash generators now and Lemon, I'll go
Rookie Rankings & Defender Trades
00:33:22
Speaker
to you. I'll throw all of these rookies kind of in a bit of a bunch at the moment and maybe let's get a little bit of a ranking thing going from you. So we've got Closie, um, as a defender, we've got Max Ranson as a forward from Hawthorne, uh, scored 60 on the weekend. We've got Will Graham as a defender mid scored 64 with a bit of a midfield role for Gold Coast.
00:33:42
Speaker
And then Kyle Lohmann, as a forward as well, scored pretty well against North Melbourne on the weekends, had his sub sort of issue. So where are we looking to go this week outside of an obvious closeie?
00:33:54
Speaker
Yeah, I think definitely close his number one there. And then after that, it's very tough to tell how long Max Ramsden is going to be in the team for. I think he came in for Mitch Lewis, was it? So I'd be a bit worried there. Will Graham, I think what was promising about him, he got some CBA. So obviously they fancy him in that sort of Sam Flanders role. Flanders has gone to the half back line.
00:34:18
Speaker
If that's going to continue, I quite like him. He's probably my number two. And then Kai Loman, he looks like a really great scorer when he gets the game time. So if you're confident he's going to shake that vest, I think we could go there. I think he'll score really well.
00:34:34
Speaker
He just, he reeks of a guy that'll have one or two good weeks and then get dropped back into the vest and your cash Jen stalls completely. You know, like we saw with Harvey Thomas this week. So yeah, it's going to be, it's going to be a tough one. I think probably closing in Graham are the two that I'd be looking to bring in this week.
00:34:53
Speaker
Yeah, really rate that there, Lemon. I think I agree with that ranking system as well. Louis, let's talk about some sort of mid-priced options now. So I'll throw these all in a bundle as well. So we've got Combin after his 107 on the weekend. He's now priced at 45 with a negative four break even as a forward. So that's pretty handy. Mark Keene's gone back to back 90s now as a defender. So priced at 59.
00:35:18
Speaker
We've got Jack Bose as a defender but played midfield on the weekend, now priced at 65 with a break even at 48. And then Jack Locosius swinging into defence as a forward, priced at 71, so a little bit on the higher end. But is there any interest in these four players?
00:35:35
Speaker
Yeah, I don't mind Charlie Combin, so came in on the weekend, was playing that intercept role for North Melbourne. Obviously we know North Melbourne are prone to giving up those inside 50s and he was able to get on the end of those quite a bit. Certainly didn't expect the score that he did put up, but if that role can continue, I think given he's got forward status, it's a bit of an awkward price at 390K, that could be one that
00:36:01
Speaker
Uh, potentially you, you dropped down to, I think if close, he hadn't put up the 95 that he did, then common would be one that, uh, coaches would seriously be looking at. Uh, I still wouldn't be grudge anybody going there personally myself. I quite liked the pick. Mark keen feels like something that we should have picked a week ago. Uh, to be honest with you, didn't expect this scoring to maintain and, uh, Adelaide just.
00:36:27
Speaker
aren't playing great football at the moment, so I'm not sure how sustainable that is. I'm not sure you want all your ball going through a Mark Keane. Yeah, I'm just not massive on that one. Jack Bowe is a little bit the same. He's been the sub. His role gets thrown around, and we've got that Chris Scott factor, which I think is a bit of a piss take at times, how we sort of
00:36:51
Speaker
say that Chris Scott is is so unpredictable but let's be honest it's it's one of those things that does stitch us up from time to time and he's already done so with Jack Bowes. Jack Lakosius he's one I just want to keep an eye on I think if he's in that half back row he's one that potentially could
00:37:08
Speaker
Nip at the heels of a 90 average and in a forward line where we're looking really scarce He's someone that potentially could be near enough top six If you saw something if you've seen enough already, I wouldn't talk anybody out of jumping
00:37:24
Speaker
on probably slight concerns over how he does play for Gold Coast. So you do have those slippery conditions. And there are a couple of people that can play that role. Obviously, we saw Sam Flanders on the weekend go down there, too. He's going to be taking a bit of ball. Will Powell had a bit of a shocker, but he's better than that. And yeah, but I don't mind Jack LaCoche. He's one I'd just be keeping an eye on.
00:37:49
Speaker
Yeah, I think we need to learn a little bit from last year that the Gold Coast still do have those back-to-back games in Darwin, in those or Dewey conditions, whether it's in Darwin or Alice Springs. I don't know. I can't actually remember, but the fantasy scoring there for outside players is not great with those conditions, but the coaches did have the role. He had a lot of kickouts for the Gold Coast. He did have to lock down at times, but when they want the ball in his hands, that's where they go.
00:38:16
Speaker
Definitely one to watch. I think we wait this week though. His break even still 67. So even if he goes well, he's not going to go up a heap of cash. And then we would have two weeks in a row of seeing the data because let's be honest, Gold Coast were two and one and they've swung wholesale changes. So what's to say that they won't swing it, swing the magnets around again. And if he was to go forward, then that's going to be a bit of a disaster. So I think we, we watched that. Hami, you got something to add? Yeah, I was just going to say on the Suns, well,
00:38:42
Speaker
He swung so many changes on the weekend, didn't he Hardwick, that it's a bit hard to tell what's happening, particularly in that back line. But I was just going to mention about that Darwin games. So let's have a look. They got around six, then round seven, round eight, and then they go to Darwin for two games, round nine and round 10. So they get three games before they go to Darwin.
00:39:07
Speaker
And they are Sydney, the Eagles and the Lions. So two hard ones and one really easy one. Where does that put you on Sam Flanders? If we're saying he's the number one trade target in the forward line, does that put you off him at all, guys?
00:39:26
Speaker
Uh, it doesn't for me, army with what I saw on the weekend. Uh, he was, he was everywhere and all it's going to take is one, one score potentially this week against Hawthorne where he goes one 21 30. And then, and then he's essentially almost out of reach with those games. So I don't think it changes it much for me. I think if anything, his scoring is probably going to improve
00:39:47
Speaker
Um, off the, the half back line, he's no longer really fighting for ball with Anderson, Tooken and Rao. He's able to get a little bit more easy pill, hopefully as he warms into the role. Um, to me, he's just one of those players when I don't have him and I feel sick not having him because he's just always around doing the right thing. And I think when I get that kind of feeling, I think I just need to go there. So priced under a hundred still with the lack of forward options. I think it's, it's essentially a no brainer to try and pick him up at some point soon. Otherwise you
00:40:15
Speaker
you're essentially looking after those Darwin games around the buyers where he might not be too much more expensive, but if you can lock him away now, I think with the safety in numbers, I think that's probably pretty smart. Would you agree, Lemon? Yeah, I think for sure. I think that the real problem with fading on Flanders is who are you going to pick instead? You need six forwards. For people who have a Luke Jackson and they're looking for an option, people looking to get off Jordan.
00:40:40
Speaker
All these guys maybe Zack fishy looking to get off where who's going to be in your Ford line come round seven. I don't really want to feel two rookies there. You learn three. So unless we get some dpp's that come up and and you can and you can swing someone forward. Maybe it's a Riley Sanders.
00:40:56
Speaker
It's going to be really tricky if you're stuck playing, you know, two straight rookies in your forward line and you really don't want to be. So I think Flanders is, you know, even in that, in that role, in the sticky conditions in Darwin, I can still see him having a pretty good fall that I'll be happy to take in my forward line. You must have been looking at this last night as well. Same as me. Who's the premiums in the forward line you're targeting? Because yeah, it's pretty, pretty thin there, hey? Yep. It's tough.
00:41:24
Speaker
All right. So I was just going to say, I think that sixth forward probably will be Riley Sanders for us in a couple of weeks. And that will be one that we can, I think we can probably keep for a couple of extra weeks past that just because of the lack of options there.
00:41:40
Speaker
Yep, really rate that Lou, but let's be honest. We all know that in round six, he's going to have 80% CBA's and he's going to get Bevoed and he's going to miss the, miss the cutoff. But yeah, at the moment, I think you, you pencil in that plan that he's going to be able to swing, swing forward and we're going to be able to play on field there for a while. So really rate that.
00:41:58
Speaker
Before we move on to the questions, lads, we're just going to quickly touch on, is it time to go? So we're going to look at some rookies in mid prices and decide whether or not we think it's a good idea to start to get off some of these guys. So Lemon, I'll start with you. Let's start with some defenders. So we've got Zach Williams, Massimo and Blake Howes, all priced around really what their breakeven is. Blake Howes is his breakevens north of what he's priced at now. So he's
00:42:23
Speaker
going to start to lose cash if he doesn't get that scoring back quickly. Is it time to go off any of these players?
00:42:29
Speaker
Yep, I think you can trade off all of these guys, depending on who you're trying to bring in. I think Zach Williams might have a little bit more cash to make. I'm still a bit surprised by his scoring. I was expecting a little bit more in that role. So yeah, he's probably the third one that I trade there, but I'd definitely be happy to jump off Massimo, happy to jump off House. And we've got some Defender rookies. So if you downgrade there, it's a slam dunk, I think this week.
00:42:54
Speaker
Yep. Agree there. Louie sticking now to the forwards in the rock with some popular mid prices. So James Jordan, Brody Grundy, and I'll throw in Zach Fisher. Would you say it's time for these three players to go if their coaches are able to get up to the premium they want on the other end? I think certainly James Jordan's one that needs to go. Um, coaches would have been expecting much better than the 60 dish stuff against the Eagles. And prior to that probably hasn't been that impressive either.
00:43:22
Speaker
Zach Fisher, he's one that's interesting. He's in that forward line where we're not got many scorers, but at the same time, he's sort of treading water, going between that 70 and 85. Not sure what to expect each week. Does McCurcher go back again and then chew into his points there? Obviously, you've got Harry Sheasel taking up a massive slice of that pie too. I'd be happy to move him on. I don't think he's a heaps high priority, but he's one that
00:43:52
Speaker
I've sort of already identified that if I can get off in the next couple of weeks and get up to a really big dog perhaps in the midfield, then I'd be more than happy to.
00:44:02
Speaker
Brody Grundy is probably the interesting one. What's he averaging, 93 is it? Off the top of my head. Yeah, price at 88 too, so he's getting close. He's getting close, but he's still putting up decent numbers for what you sort of paid for him at. I think that's one that depending on how many round five by players you've got, you could potentially hold for a little bit longer, but
00:44:28
Speaker
given that we've got some options above him as well. We touched on a Tim English, a Rowan Marshall. You're not going to be trading into Max Gorn, but these guys, they're going north of 115. So if he's going 20 points on them a week, then potentially there's a lot of room for growth there too. But I'd be interested to hear Lemon's thoughts on this one because he's got the three rucks and
00:44:52
Speaker
Uh, that probably influences your decision in terms of what you do with Grundy, but I'd be keen to hear sort of both avenues there as a, if you were just that two Ruck owner as well, Lemon. Yeah. I think if I was a two Ruck owner, I'd be, uh, I'd be pretty happy to jump off Brody Grundy this week. Um, and we've, we've talked about, uh, Marshall and English and maybe there's not that much value there, but you're taking a guy that you're bringing in a guy that's probably going to be top two in the line. So happy to do that.
00:45:20
Speaker
But for the three ruck owners among us, I'm pretty happy on keeping Grundy through his buy, he'll cover for Max Gorn next week. And then I'll look to trade him probably before round seven, assuming nothing happens to Cherry and Gorn. So for me, that's a big structural thing that come round seven, I'll drop him to a basement ruck rookie, and then I'll have $600,000 to play with for a big upgrade. So I've got a lot of flexibility there.
00:45:49
Speaker
Hopefully, everything works out okay. If I get a few injuries, I might be in trouble. It might be the next round, but yeah, we'll see how we go. Hami, I want your thoughts because you have Grundy, right? No, I don't have Grundy. I ditched him after round one and went to Cherry.
00:46:06
Speaker
Then never mind, it is all good. All right, lads, let's fire through some of these questions. I know Lemon has to get out of here pretty soon. So Lemon, I will start with you. This one's from Brisbane Bloods Fantasy. Should we be prioritizing moving a mid-pricer to Flanders, for example, or fixing a red dot on our bench such as pink to Closie?
00:46:28
Speaker
Yeah, I think, first of all, if you're if you're fading closely, I think reconsider it and definitely bring him in. In terms of fixing up a red dot, if you've got one red dot, maybe two red dots, it's not such a big deal. But if you've, you know, you've got three or four guys that aren't playing at the moment, or maybe a few that have stalled in cash gen, I'd definitely be looking to maybe do a double downgrade or a double sideways on your rookies and just get that cash gen moving because
00:46:53
Speaker
it won't be, it won't hurt you for a few rounds. And then, you know, in 4 or 5 rounds, you'll, you'll look at your bench and you'll realize there's no cash there. And all of a sudden, teams will start overtaking you. And you'll probably have to do a double, double sideways in or downgrade into, you know, around 10, around 11. So yeah, I think, just have a look at your team, have a look at your team value, what's your bench health like? And then, and then maybe, maybe you look to get rid of a guy like Penk
00:47:21
Speaker
Louis, this one's for you. This one's from Joshua Griffiths. So should players like Haus and Mossimo, who are likely to drop in price this week, are they more important to move than someone like Jordan, who, yes, he's maxed out, but he's actually going to hold his price this week? Or do you think you hold someone like a Massimo and hope that you're going to get his score in your best 18 this week?
00:47:43
Speaker
It probably depends on how many options you've got within that best 18 you're confident in. I'm in a similar boat. I'm going to be trading, Jordan.
00:47:52
Speaker
I think there's a valid point within holding. He's not going to go down in price, but then also at the same time you might get caught out there. You can't do a trade next week and then all of a sudden you might be losing money on Jordan too. So it's a bit of a crux 22 there. I think I'd just make the trade while it's there and hope that Mossimo or, I mean, a house probably unlikely, but Mossimo certainly could. He's gone 90 plus before.
00:48:19
Speaker
Um, yeah, I'd just be holding there and hopefully it gets within your best 18 and improves your score this week. And then you can look to move him on maybe next week. Yep. Like that. Harmony, this one's from Carol. So if you're someone that has Bonner at M5 and then the three rookies, is it worth going one of them potentially McCurcher up to a big garden mid and neglect the weak forward line? Or do you think you need to use the cash to bolster it a little bit before the line?
00:48:46
Speaker
Well, I'm inclined to hold those those guys in the for in the mid field at the moment, you're McCurcher, well sharp sanders, Roberts, I'm inclined to hold those guys because they're scoring well, they're still making money, they're going up in value. So
00:49:04
Speaker
The thing about, like you got to have a sort of a view of overall with your team, how it's going to land because there's no point trading out Mercurtia when it could be useful in your back line in a couple of weeks as well. So yeah, I don't know. Where was he looking for the upgrade in the forward line? Like I'm pretty comfortable with Bonner and the three rookies at the minute. I think they've still got a few weeks left in them.
00:49:32
Speaker
Yep. Yep. Agree there. I don't think you go off them yet. I think we've got to, we've got to try and get them to fatten out as much as possible. And I think some of those guys were even going to be looking to play on field for a bit longer as well. Think of Roberts in defense and potentially a Sanders forward as well. So probably not the time to jump off them yet. Lemon, this one's for you. Now we spoke about potentially going up to an English or a Marshall from Grundy this week.
00:49:55
Speaker
Is it too late for coaches to make a whopping 2K and go Grundy down to Cherry? And then obviously not able to spend your cash elsewhere rather than having to use that money to go up.
00:50:09
Speaker
It's a tricky one. I think if you haven't got Cherry until now, there was probably a reason. Maybe you didn't like him. There's probably a little bit of value in Cherry still. He's a solo rock at a team that doesn't really have a second option. I think he's still a little bit of value, but if it was me, I'd be skipping that trade and trying to go straight up to a guy that you can keep for the rest of the season because there's not enough value in Cherry to make it worth an extra trade.
00:50:38
Speaker
Makes you feel sick, doesn't it? Hearing that, I might trade Grundy down to Cherry for two grand, considering what the price difference was at the start of the season. Yeah, you hate to miss those guys and you buckle down and Cherry just keeps hurting people that didn't start him really. So yeah, he's had a really good season so far.
00:50:58
Speaker
I mean, if it makes the listener feel any better, I don't have cherry. I've had gone and grumpy and I'm going all right at the moment. But yeah, who knows? Maybe it'll burn me in three, four, five weeks' time where I just don't have enough cash to get up to the guy that I want to get up to. But, Hami.
00:51:12
Speaker
Yeah, at least my biggest misses were like the rookie players. They're the ones that are really hurting me at the moment. Choosing Lazaro over Sharp, choosing and not, not choosing Dempsey and now trading him in $170,000 later. They're the ones that are going to hurt me in the long run that I'm paying up for now. Louis, I'll go to you. So this one's from Ben Harris. So he doesn't have Nick Martin or Flanders. Sounds a bit like Harmony. He wants to get both of them in the next two weeks, but who does he prioritize first?
00:51:44
Speaker
Well, I think I'm bringing in Nick Martin at this stage. He's going 110 across the last couple of weeks. He's going to get defender status, which makes him even more valuable.
00:51:55
Speaker
It's at 882K, so he's made 113K on the season. He's going to keep going up. He's got that 68 breakeven, whereas Flanders, what's he priced at? 99, so he sort of is where he's at, breakeven of 96. I think in terms of value, you're probably going to Nick Martin first and then bring in Sam Flanders.
00:52:15
Speaker
the week after, but it's going to be slightly team dependent on what you've got up forward. That being said, best 18. You can sort of hide behind that. And if you're going to do it one week this week and then one week next week, I think you can go. Yeah. Martin into Flanders. Yep. Really right. That cool. Now, lads, that's going to, that's going to wrap us up there.
00:52:36
Speaker
had a Monster episode again. Sorry if we didn't get to all of the questions listeners. We might even jump on Twitter and comment on some of those there on the PodPod AFL official channel so that we get to the rest of your questions. But Lemon, I just wanted to say thanks for jumping on. We really appreciate it. And who knows, hopefully you might actually be a little bit more of a regular. We love your insights and we are one panel member short at the moment, but thanks for jumping on and just give us some closing thoughts as you move into round five.
00:53:05
Speaker
Yeah, thanks, everyone, guys. It's always great to chat. Yeah, I think just stay disciplined, everyone. Have a, you know, do your best trades and maybe plan a week or two ahead and just get ready for those, that round seven best 22 round, because that's when I think that the good coaches who've had discipline trading are really going to come through. And it sounds like I'll put my application in HomeZ. So yeah, you need a cover letter as well, or just a resume? What are we doing?
00:53:32
Speaker
Yeah, three-page cover letter, full resume, give us your accolades. It's pretty, pretty popular. We've got some, some people lining up, but you know, we're mates. I'll, I'll put you to the middle of the pile and we'll see how we go. But as always, Army Louie, thanks for jumping on. Really good as always.
00:53:52
Speaker
For everyone else, thanks for listening. Make sure you're following us at Pod Pod AFL on X. And yeah, if you can still give us a rating and review on Spotify, Apple Podcast or wherever you get your podcasts. And we'll be back here next week reviewing all things from round five. So looking forward to it and we'll see you then. Cheers. Thanks, guys. Bye.