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And just like that, the AFL Fantasy pre-season is over! Round 0 is upon us and the decisions we make over the next week will be crucial in setting ourselves up for success this year in AFL Fantasy. Never fear, the PODPOD has you covered!

On this episode, a full panel on deck are joined by special guest Tim Guest as they go on a monster review of all the AAMI Community Series AFL Games. The lads discuss all relevant players in a huge review, talking stocks up, stocks down, hot topics and more on this epic podcast. The Fantasy season is here and we cannot wait!

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Transcript

Introduction to the Podcast and Panel

00:00:00
Lew
you
00:00:19
Holmesy
G'day and welcome to the Pod Pod. It's Holmesy here talking all things AFL Fantasy Classic for you on this Monday, 3rd of March. That's right, we are into March. We are on the eve of round zero. The 2025 AFL Fantasy season is about to begin.
00:00:34
Holmesy
And boys, I am excited for footy to be back and ah for this to get up and running again. We have a full panel on deck today, plus a special guest, ah which we'll get to. But as always, the rock of the pod pod, two-time top 10 finisher and runner-up in 2019, John Harmy.

Weekend Football and Predictions

00:00:52
Holmesy
Mate, welcome back. How are you?
00:00:54
Jon Harmey
Yep, yeah I'm excited. Host Holmesy. We saw some almost real football on the weekend just gone and we'll talk a bit of that. But yeah, looking forward to the real stuff starting, if as long as there's no cyclones in the north of Australia.
00:01:11
Holmesy
Yeah, we're not going to get into that too much, Armie, but I will admit, once again, sometimes you say things on this podcast and I just think, what is this bloke on about? But once again, you always seem to be right. You never miss Trent Rivers, Hugo Garcia.
00:01:26
Holmesy
Mate, what's the go? that That black book of yours just gets ah gets a working out and it's always right.
00:01:33
Jon Harmey
Well, we don't speak too soon. Trent Rivers might come out and score 120 in round one look completely stupid.
00:01:40
Holmesy
Yeah, look, we'll we'll get into that a little bit later, but back again this week. So like that, two in a row now, we're on a bit of a roll. Perennial top 1K finisher, Portman Louis. Mate, good to see you.
00:01:52
Lew
Good to see you too, mate. Yep, two in a row. Hopefully build a bit of form. It's the most exciting time to talk about a bit of fantasy. It's just before our hopes and dreams get shattered, isn't it? But no, I'm keen to be here, boys.
00:02:08
Holmesy
That's it. We're all winning the Hilux. It's going to be a great year. And we brought him back. So twice in a row for you as well, Sam. The listeners spoke, all one of them, and they said they loved you and they wanted you back. So we thought we'd give you a another go.
00:02:21
Holmesy
Welcome back.
00:02:23
Sam
Yeah, that was me in my burner account as well, asking for me to come back.

Sam's Return and Role Discussion

00:02:27
Sam
um No, really enjoyed my time on the podcast last time. Let's just hope it wasn't to beginner's luck. And hopefully I've got a few more words of wisdom for the listeners.
00:02:38
Holmesy
Yeah, well, if our Footy McHead has his way on Twitter, it'd just be me and Harmy speaking to each other. But where's the where's the fun in that? we love ah We love a big panel. And as I mentioned off the top, we have a special guest, Tim Guest from the AFL Fantasy Fanatics podcast.
00:02:54
Holmesy
Guesty, mate, thanks for jumping on. I know it was a public holiday here in WA, but how was your weekend? You watch a bit of footy?
00:03:02
Guesty
Oh, mate, it's been ah a good long weekend. Watch plenty of footy, listen to a fair few reviews as well. Starting to, you know, put those last kind of little touches in place for the team. Excited for round zero just around the corner, but also a little cautious.
00:03:15
Guesty
You know, we got round zero and team to kind of mess it all up.
00:03:15
Sam
right.
00:03:18
Guesty
But, yeah, it's an exciting time of year.

Pod Challenge Details

00:03:22
Holmesy
It sure is, mate. And I am, ah yeah, really looking forward to watching the footy this weekend as long as it goes ahead. But um I'm sure it'll be back soon, even if there is a bit of a few games being postponed.
00:03:34
Holmesy
Before we get into the pod ah the podcast this week, we just got a little bit of housekeeping to get to. So the Pod Pod Challenge is back for 2025. And just like last year, we have partnered with the guys over at Supercoach Champion um to provide the winner of the Pod Pod Challenge, a custom AFL fantasy ring.
00:03:47
Sam
Thank you.
00:03:51
Holmesy
um which is pretty cool. If you want your own custom ring for one of your leagues, head over to supercoachchampion.com. They've got a range of items that you could get for your draft leagues or your classic leagues. um But yeah, get involved in the Pod Pod Challenge. I'm sure we'll get Dossie in there there this year and we can all track just how he's going. But the league code will be in the show description below. But it is H-D-P-Y-P-X-6-X.
00:04:12
Holmesy
day pay why pay x six x ah But like I said, it'll be in the show description below. Get involved. I think we had close to a thousand people in there last year and it's really good to see the Pod Pod Challenge and to see just how many coaches we have in the top 100. I think from last year, we're looking at about 20. So if we could get that number again, um showing that our advice isn't all that bad, then that would be a good result, Guesty. But why don't you give a little plug about your Content Creators Cup?

Content Creators Cup Overview

00:04:39
Guesty
Oh, yeah. Well, look, you know, really excited to have you guys be a part of the Content Crowders Cup over the last couple of years. And you guys are in again for this year. And one of the things that I kind of wanted to do with Infinite Wealth sponsoring the Content Crowders Cup, and that's where we kind of give the winning coaches a chance to give away up to $5,000 to their favourite charity.
00:04:58
Guesty
um You know, in the past we've kind of put out some online programs where people can kind of learn to invest, but we had some people asking for stuff that was a little bit more simple, like how to take control of their cash flow and master their money. So I created a brand new program that people can register for and sign up. And then as part of it, we also kind of made something a little bit special available as well. so Anyone who registers for the Master Your Money program by March 10, so prior to round one there, will actually go in the draw to be a chance to be the 20th coach in the Content Creators' Cup and go up against not any of their favorite content
00:05:30
Guesty
creators and see, I guess, what they've gotten up against guys like Harmy and and yourself, Homie, and myself and Biles. And then of course got Mitch and Luke who have taken it out the last few years from the Ball Boys. So it'll be exciting to see how someone goes up against all all their content creators. And look, if you want to be a part of it, just head across to infinitewealth.com.au forward slash AFL fantasy. That's infinitewealth.com.au forward slash AFL fantasy to register and get your hands on the new program.
00:05:58
Holmesy
Sorry, Guesty, are you able to say that our website one more time just so Sam can write that down so he gets the opportunity to to be the 20th coach?
00:06:07
Guesty
I'm also wondering if Louie's writing it down as well, right? So that's infinitewealth.com.au forward slash AFL fantasy. Hope to see you in there, Lou. Good to see you hitting your strap at the right time of preseason as well, mate.
00:06:16
Holmesy
Yeah, look.
00:06:19
Holmesy
It'll be a longstanding tradition of the PodPod.
00:06:20
Lew
Yeah, short short run up.
00:06:22
Holmesy
We'll get Sam to read out the results each week, just like Harmi did two years ago when you savagely didn't invite him, Gesty.
00:06:30
Guesty
ah It's tough to get all the content creators in there. Look, there's there's three bigger missions this year as well. So it might shock a few people who's been omitted this year and and who's coming.
00:06:43
Jon Harmey
Stado, go on.
00:06:43
Holmesy
yeah
00:06:45
Holmesy
Yeah, well, they're...
00:06:45
Guesty
Well, yes, Stato is gone.
00:06:46
Guesty
Yeah, yeah. But so three of the big boys, Calvin, Warnie and Roy are no longer a part of the content creators. Can't be about to make room for some other content creators.
00:06:56
Jon Harmey
Smart move.
00:06:58
Holmesy
Yeah, what have those blokes ever done anyway, to be fair?
00:07:00
Holmesy
Fair enough.
00:07:00
Guesty
Oh,
00:07:01
Lew
but
00:07:03
Holmesy
Nah, really looking forward to it and looking forward to having that 20th coach in there. If he takes it out or she, then it's going to make us all look pretty ordinary. But really looking forward to that in 2025.
00:07:13
Guesty
no. Yeah, that's right.

Impact of Player Injuries

00:07:15
Holmesy
twenty twenty five Lads, let's get into it. So we're going to start with some hot topics. And off the top, we've had some pretty hectic injuries to start to some not so popular players necessarily, but um to some players that are clearly you know in the top sort of five, six midfielders in the comp.
00:07:35
Holmesy
And really, they're the gun players in their team. So there's going to be a bit of flow on effect and and make some other players relevant. So let's start right at the top, the one that's the freshest. Errol Goulden going down.
00:07:46
Holmesy
We're still unsure about that timeline, but had that surgery on the leg. I think it was potentially a broken ankle or the syndesmosis. And they're they're talking about months on the sidelines, not just weeks.
00:07:56
Holmesy
So that's a big blow for Sydney. When you combine that with Callum Mills, it would seem that there's a big gaping hole opening up in that midfield and that wing rotation, which is going to make some players very relevant, Harmi.
00:07:57
Jon Harmey
right.
00:08:07
Holmesy
So straight off the top, who do you think is going to benefit from these players going out?
00:08:12
Jon Harmey
Yeah, I was watching a bit of that too, actually, mate. And um I really did enjoy what I was seeing from Angus Sheldrick.
00:08:18
Sam
Thank you.
00:08:19
Jon Harmey
So I do feel as though there's potentially ah bump for him or or certainly more of a best 22 type role. But I'm not really sure where the rest of it goes. I mean, you're...
00:08:31
Jon Harmey
you probably look at that wing position being McInerney or perhaps Taylor Adams gets a bit further up the ground, something like that. So a bit to play out there yet. But um yeah, Angus Sheldrick definitely was was more interested in after I saw that Gordon injury, unfortunately for him.
00:08:46
Guesty
Thank
00:08:50
Holmesy
Yep, Sheldrick's definitely someone that needs to be on the radar. We've seen what he can do, even from low time on ground back in 2023. And you'd think that um being 2025 now, he's improved that tank a little bit. And if he's up around that sort of 75% time on ground marker, um yeah, he's going to be someone we look at, Lou.
00:09:08
Lew
Yeah, we know Errol Gilden's work rate is elite as well. So I wouldn't be surprised if without him in the side, maybe we see a few extra kicks, handballs from Matty Roberts too, just off that halfback line. So, um you know, like you said, you' you're throwing a stone and we're not sure who it's going to hit. I think everyone's going to come up a bit. But ah yeah, these are some of the names that could spike most.
00:09:29
Holmesy
that's ah That's interesting that you brought him up, Lou. Now, i'm not saying this is going to happen, but is there any chance that they move Matt Roberts back to a wing?
00:09:38
Lew
Yeah, I did think about that, mate. Honestly, I'm not sure. I know they've wanted to move like Braden Campbell's up the ground ah in the past who's had, you know, really good kicking. So ah maybe it does land that way. But yeah, it remains to be seen. And that's what opening round is for here.
00:09:57
Jon Harmey
You'd put Jake Lloyd up the ground before you did Robert's, though, wouldn't you? You'd have Lloyd on a wing, I reckon.
00:10:02
Lew
Well, you know, he's been training there all preseason, so it'd be a bit of a swing of the axe to move him up there. I think they've got other players that can fill those roles. And ah think, you know, a young player who's shown quite a bit in that role, you may as well give him the reins and and mature as a player there.
00:10:17
Holmesy
Yep, yep, fair enough there. And the other big one, Marcus Bontempelli. So came off very early in the first quarter of that practice game on the weekend. Club came out and said that it was just precautionary with a knock to the calf.
00:10:31
Holmesy
And then 24 hours later, ah calf six weeks out, ah which is, yeah, not exactly precautionary, Sam. So we've already we've already seen Trelaw be out for an extended period.
00:10:42
Holmesy
ah Ed Richards is struggling. Clearly, there's going to be a gaping hole in the midfield to start the year. Is it as simple as Riley Sanders is going to get the uptick or do you think there's going to be benefits for for other players as well?

Team Performance Analyses

00:10:55
Sam
Yeah, that's certainly where I've gone. And it might be a bit of a knee jerk, but yeah that's the most obvious choice for me. Obviously, there's there's Matt Kennedy there as well. And maybe they want a little bit more seniority. But given what we've seen from Sanders in the in the preseason, Bons injury is is now enough for me to to lock away Sanders.
00:11:17
Holmesy
Yeah, i would agree there. But if there's one thing we know about Bevo, we can never really be sure what's going to happen, Gessie. So are you happy to lock in Lachlan McNeil with me, knowing that ah he's probably going to be a full-time midfielder now?
00:11:29
Guesty
yeah
00:11:30
Jon Harmey
Ha ha.
00:11:31
Guesty
I'm staying well away from Lockton McNeil, mate, but I'd agree with Sam, mate. Like, you know, Sanders for me was was pretty, pretty kind of solidly locked away in that forward line anyway. I kind of thought there was about 20 points upside in him for me. And then with Bond going out, it just kind of secures it even more, maybe even puts a little bit more upside there. So no, I'm all in on the Sanders train.
00:11:52
Guesty
Harmy, what do you reckon?
00:11:53
Jon Harmey
Well, like I was pretty surprised to see that James Harms became the man in there. You reckon that was just because of that early injury and then like they just needed to plug a gap so they put him in? like Surely he's not in their midfield rotations long term.
00:12:11
Guesty
Yeah, i look, I probably didn't pay too much attention to that, to be perfectly honest.
00:12:11
Sam
Thank you.
00:12:15
Guesty
I mean, I guess the one that I'm a little bit more worried about is Ed Richardson when he comes back and what happens when he comes into that midfield and does he push Sanders out a little bit? But I also think that, you know, I think, I mean, Sanders is coming up for contract at the end of the year, I just think he's going to get more midfield time this year.
00:12:30
Guesty
So, um you know, and in that forward line, we're looking for value. I think he he sits quite nicely in that forward line for me.
00:12:38
Holmesy
Yeah, look, ah Sanders is the easy option at the moment. We won't have a round zero watch and we won't get much from team sheets either, but I think Sanders is ah as good an option as any to to put in there to start. And we are starting to get a few of these forwards that are priced cheaper that are popping their heads up as well. So it might be pretty easy to to structure down and and go Sanders down if if he's not um there, but pretty sure he's going to have the role at least to start the year. Lou, the last one from your Port Adelaide, Zach Butters.
00:13:06
Holmesy
ah knee injury had surgery did he not or might not have had surgery but he's out for a little bit do you have a timeline on his return and do you think that the Port Adelaide are just going to go from that five man midfield to a more tight four man rotation or are they going to um throw you know a spanner in the works there
00:13:24
Lew
Yeah, well, last week they said six weeks. So I haven't seen any update to that. So we'll run with that and say maybe it's just staff to gather around or round seven, we'll say. um And what we saw on the weekend was that it was exactly that, Holmesy. It was pretty much Rosie, Horn Francis, Wines and Drew. They all just got a little bit tighter.
00:13:41
Lew
ah They all attended 17 plus CBAs. um ah I think it was Wines that led that bunch. So they clearly still see him as that sort of linchpin in there. But I think there's always going to be mix of Rosie and JHF in there. So if you're interested in those players, I know it was bit of a trouncing on the weekend and hard to read into a little bit of it. But if you go and buy the eye test, Connor Rosie and Horne Francis in that midfield looked really good without Zach Butters there.
00:14:12
Holmesy
Yeah, we'll we'll get into it when we get into the games, but far out, Connor Rosey, we were talking who's going to take the Dan Houston role, but it it looked to the eye that Connor Rosey was up getting plenty of ball in that back 50 and pretty much doing as he liked. So Horne Francis is definitely going to be the one they target more and Rosey, at least in the the start of the year, is going to be that sort of Jack McRae midfielder where he can just float wherever he likes and and rack up the pill. So we all liked Rosie before, but I think the Butters injury just solidifies Connor Rosie in our sides, which ah will be good.
00:14:44
Holmesy
All right, lads, what we're going to do, a big Amy Community community Series review. We're going go through game by game, bit of stocks up, bit of stocks down, just general observations and and what we're looking forward to moving into opening round and round one.
00:14:57
Holmesy
Harmi, we'll start with you, the mighty Essendon Bombers. Set for a big year. Top four, you said, pre-pod. It's a big call. Why don't you run us through this game early on when they versus Geelong on Tuesday?
00:15:08
Lew
Thank you.
00:15:09
Jon Harmey
Well, for a start, I don't think it was a big call whatsoever. it was just a standard observation from the game that I saw. One game, one win. Oh, look, a few things that I noticed. That first quarter, Dylan Shield, wow. I'm sure everybody was thinking the same thing.
00:15:25
Jon Harmey
ah have Firstly, go to the app. What's he priced at? And, oh, he's $750,000 and he's a midfielder and it was it was a little bit deflating.
00:15:29
Sam
Thank you.
00:15:34
Jon Harmey
But he was bloody everywhere in that back line. So, yeah. I guess we'll be watching that one. i guess the good thing is both of these two teams are currently planned to play in the round zero matchup. So, um you know, assuming that all goes ahead without any dramas, we'll be able to see who goes well.
00:15:54
Jon Harmey
Sam Deconi, he started in my back line before this game. Did not and finish the game out in my back line. I removed him based on the score. But ah look, he had the role. He was taking plenty of taps. So I'm not i'm not too sure.
00:16:11
Jon Harmey
ah Lou, what did you make of that ruck? 50-50 split, I think it was, with blicks pretty well. I'm not really sure what to make of that.
00:16:21
Lew
Yeah, it's tough to read. um ah It's always smelled funny to me. I don't like sort of um putting myself into the hands of Chris Scott um with these sorts of things.
00:16:32
Lew
Like um I can see them rotating a number of rucks and, you know, if we're being honest with ourselves, they've actually told us that as well, that they want to rotate um up to four people through the rucks.
00:16:32
Jon Harmey
Yeah.
00:16:42
Lew
So I know it's hard to take Chris Scott for his word, but there's a bit of shakiness there for me to...
00:16:48
Jon Harmey
yeah
00:16:48
Lew
to consider him. I think if he goes well in opening round, I would certainly start just due to that break-even play, but I'm still not interested in the player. What will be interesting is if we do get this, you know, cyclone Alfred and ah torrential rain and, you know, terrible wind is how many ruck contests there actually are, because if the ball is constantly floating over the boundary line or if it's constantly in the contest, can't get out and there's,
00:17:16
Lew
and upwards of 80, 90, 100 contests that he's attending. ah he He could play really well and you know be an absolute starter for us.
00:17:24
Jon Harmey
Well, reckon it'll help him too much because he couldn't win a ruck tap and he's going up against Oscar McInerney in round zero. But anyway, a couple of other observations.
00:17:31
Guesty
Thank you.
00:17:33
Jon Harmey
Mitch Nevitt, he was in the midfield, right? So that was a legit role for him. Didn't look too bad. I mean, he scored pretty well, but I'm still not convinced that and when they get a couple back, he's going to be playing a solid role through.
00:17:47
Jon Harmey
But look, just a couple other little things. Those cheap Essendon defenders, Jackson Pryor and Zach Reid, I actually liked what I saw from both of those guys, even though they were both locked down. I mean, Zach Reid, a full back, and Pryor, a locked down back pocket, but they both scored well and played a good game. So, yeah, Guesty, just seeing you this one.
00:18:11
Guesty
ah Yeah, look, um i you you nailed it. I think i was just going to go back to something about Sam DeKoenig there, but you nailed it saying that he's up against Oscar Mack in that round zero. So I just don't think there's value there. i mean, he struggled against obviously Essendon, which are a tough rough matchup. But yeah, that's all I was going to add there, mate.
00:18:26
Holmesy
Harmi, the one question I have for you um is more centred around that Essendon midfield. So we have some cheap options that are presenting in Sardis and Hobbs who both scored pretty well. Both had the role on the week on the game just gone.
00:18:40
Holmesy
But no sam know Sam Durham. He played exclusively forward. Apparently, he's a bit sore. We saw Caldwell not play the second half and then Merritt didn't really play as much midfield time as he traditionally would there.
00:18:54
Holmesy
Is it a case of Merritt, Caldwell, Durham as the top three? And then who's going to be that fourth midfielder? Because that fourth midfielder from their price points does present value for us, despite the fact they have a buy.
00:19:07
Jon Harmey
Well, Stasi Parrish, when he's fit, he'll be in there. ah Look, at the moment, it's Sardis ahead Hobbs, but he's a midfield only $600,000 prize player. So I've got a feeling there may be some better options out there, but I'm not going to talk anybody out of him if they're super keen. mean,
00:19:29
Jon Harmey
Hobbs, he's still struggling to be a best 22 player at Essendon, priced as a $500,000 forward. I'm probably ah still more keen on my boy Hugo Garcia than Hobbs at this point.
00:19:44
Holmesy
Fair enough, Sam. So you are going to talk us through the Collingwood-Richmond game. And I suppose the question is, can we start Nick Dacos, Josh Dacos and Peter Dacos in our sides this year?
00:19:55
Sam
Yeah, wish I wish Peter was still running around. That be nice. um Yeah, I mean, it really was one rate one-way traffic, men versus boys out there. um nick nick Both Nick and Josh looked amazing.
00:20:08
Sam
I think I was listening to the Ball Boys podcast the other week and um one of them mentioned that Josh Dacos will score 110 in the first round and then everyone will want to bring him in the week after.
00:20:19
Sam
But it looks like he went a week early. He looked really good. um Houston looked really good as well. um Nick obviously did what Nick does and just rack.
00:20:31
Sam
um He'll get a bit more attention during the season. And um I mean, if even with his buy, like, you know, if you were interested in picking him, I probably wouldn't talk you out of it.
00:20:43
Sam
um On the Richmond side, Not a great deal to talk about. i think Jadon Short just got another tick in the column, um taking probably a few more kick-ins this year, whereas you previously Vlostons grabbed a lot of those.
00:20:59
Sam
Tim Turandot, we talked about him on the podcast um the other week. A little disappointing, but he did look like he was in cruise control. it's It's been enough to sway me away from him, particularly given he's around similar price point to Rosie now, and I think there's an obvious um he's obviously a better option there now.
00:21:22
Sam
Perryman, I think, is the most interesting one to talk about and and one I want to focus on because I did have my doubts in the defensive role, but if you're going to have 10 tackles every game, you're going to score pretty well. think i think For want of other options, he's still locked into my side, but I'd be keen to hear from the panel, maybe starting with Louis, ah whether or not he's still there for you.
00:21:54
Lew
um look I wasn't keen last week in the unofficial...
00:21:54
Jon Harmey
No room in Louie's back line.
00:21:54
Holmesy
We lost loot.
00:21:56
Jon Harmey
Too many Port Adelaide defenders. He's got Kane, Farrell, Burton. Oh.
00:22:04
Lew
And I'll have Finlayson in round six, too, my juice. So, no, I wasn't that keen on Perryman last week in the practice games. And yeah ah look the needle shifted a little bit on the weekend. It was nice to see him get a little bit more involved. But i I've still got some major concerns over how much he can regularly be involved in this side. Like, they're...
00:22:26
Lew
They're just so Dacos-centric and they really want to attack via their half-back flankers in a Josh Dacos and a Dan Houston. So I can just see the ball flying over Harry Perryman's head a little bit too often. He's going to get the inside stuff. It looks like he's going to play as that defensive midfielder at the back of stoppage there. and And yeah, he is going to fill up on tackles. I don't think he'll average 10 a game. I think it might sort of settle between maybe 7 and 8. But yeah,
00:22:54
Lew
I don't know if he's going to be able to generate enough marks, goals, um kicks, the things that we actually want that tick that fantasy score over outside of that that tackling. I've been playing that same tune for a little while now. I'd be keen to to hear your thoughts on it, Holmesy.
00:23:13
Holmesy
I suppose my question is now we don't really like to pencil in trades, but is Perryman going to be one that we look to sort of maybe get off at his buy? Because what's his role going to be when Tom Mitchell and Jordan Dugowie enter that side? Is he going to be the that defensive midfielder and everyone else rotates around him as that attacking midfielder or is he going to find himself back on a halfback flank? Because he's not getting any ball if you've got Josh Dacos and Dan Houston back there.
00:23:38
Holmesy
That would be my my big concern. He's definitely got the role at this point in time. um And he he's i'm still he's someone I'm definitely looking at and is in my side because of lack of options. But I just can't help but feel in ah in a normal year, he's not someone we'd really be looking at.
00:23:52
Holmesy
Lou, but you are right. Dacos, those boys get all the ball. And if he does have a game where he doesn't tackle, then maybe he's going to have a ah few floor scores. and And that's not really what we're after. I don't think he's going to be an underpriced premium for us. I think he's going to need to be someone that gets off to a flyer.
00:24:07
Holmesy
Harmi, would you agree? Or you're ah on a different page?
00:24:10
Jon Harmey
ah Look, he is a defender for AFL Fantasy, playing in the midfield, and he scored, what did he score? 90-something, didn't he? So hard to pass him up at this point in time, mate.
00:24:25
Holmesy
Yeah, look, any someone I'm starting in, boy, going to be the round zero watch and there's going to be plenty of tackles on offer. So he can get off to an absolute flyer in that game and and a lot of people will start him. But yeah, one to watch.
00:24:39
Holmesy
Sam, we'll we'll go back to back with you. So the Hawks-Bulldogs game, um just before we do that, Harmy, has the needle shifted at all on James Sisley are you still just going to keep throwing shade?
00:24:49
Jon Harmey
You'll love this. um i had a draft last night, ah cash league with these guys, and can't remember.
00:24:52
Lew
and
00:24:56
Jon Harmey
I was, you know, I need a defender. Gone through, James Sicily, my first, my D1, and I thought Holmes would be proud of me here.
00:25:06
Holmesy
Look, there wasn't a lot of forward time. He was doing Sicily things off that halfback. um ah We're going to get a good-looking opening round. I still think he's going to be that 90% defender, and he may get thrown forward it at times if they're desperately trying to win a game in the last quarter. up But, mate, we've seen him have 100-point halves. I'm interested. I am. I've put it out there. army There's no interest.
00:25:30
Holmesy
No interest.
00:25:33
Jon Harmey
No, not for me. I say that, actually i say that I've still got two vacant positions in my defence, so maybe there's still a chance, there's hope.
00:25:43
Holmesy
Guesty, back me up, please. That's why I got you on the podcast.
00:25:45
Guesty
Oh, he has come straight into my team and shot up my ranks, mate. I mean, I think with Baras and Battle coming into that back line, I think there were some comments after the game as well about, you know, defender is where he's, you know, most effectively used for that side. So, um you know, and I, you know, there was some talk from one of the other podcasts. I mean, in I saw a bit of this game, but not all of it, that when he did go forward, it wasn't so much that he moved forward. it was more that just Hawthorne were pressing further up the ground.
00:26:13
Guesty
So, yeah, you know kick-ins. I mean, we're so short of, I think, good value options as well in defence. Like, I mean, we you talked about Harry Perryman before. i'm not I'm not expecting too much out of him, but if he's got 10 or 15 points of upside, that's a win for me.
00:26:26
Guesty
And I think the same with James Cicely, which, you know, we know the ceiling he's got as well. So, um it um yeah, I'm on board with you, Holmesy, that's for sure.
00:26:34
Holmesy
Ah, well, sorry, Guesty. Unfortunately, on this show, Harm is always right. So we're ah we're unfortunately cooked.
00:26:39
Guesty
Yeah.
00:26:40
Holmesy
But Sam, why don't you continue us on with this game?
00:26:45
Sam
Yeah, sure. um Yeah, i'll just on the Sicily point as well, the other thing that he looked, he um hit some beautiful kicks into the middle of the ground. And with the exception of Carl Amon, there's not too many great ball users back there. So another tick, another reason to maybe keep him back.
00:27:04
Sam
um The other Hawk we were all watching, I think, was Will Day. And similar to what I mentioned about Taranto and Rosie, you know you've got Will Day and Chera there at around similar price points, and we'll get to Chera later. But um I think the decision has kind of been made for me personally and maybe for the others.
00:27:24
Sam
um Again, it goes back to that Hawks midfield. They don't tend to have big scores. in there and you know, Will Day might have been in cruise control and taking it easy but probably didn't do enough, especially given his buy to to get into my side.
00:27:42
Sam
And then on the Bulldog side, oh yeah, sorry, Hermsie.
00:27:43
Holmesy
Lou, sorry, Sam, lo Lou's always been a bit of ah a Will Day lover. And admittedly, we got him in that year. Lou did it when he was at a 60 price point. So it was a bit different, Lou. But do you get the idea that he might be a bit more of a quality over quantity type player and and someone very good in the super coach format, but in that Hawks style, not necessarily the the fantasy pig that we would like him to be?
00:28:06
Lew
Yeah, I think this year he will be. He's had an interrupted preseason and... yeah know We know he's going to be a gun player, but I don't think they're going to necessarily you know put him full throttle um and risk any injury. I think they want to get him pretty fit and running nicely. and And then from there, I could see a breakout season maybe next season.
00:28:27
Lew
um But this year, it's probably not there for me. I think he can be utilised in other ways too. I wouldn't be surprised to see Will Day float through some various positions, which...
00:28:38
Lew
Looking at how sort of Hawthorne are lining up, I wouldn't be surprised if they do shift the magnets a little bit because there's a lot of versatility there.
00:28:48
Lew
And I think even in the preseason, he said he was ah set a centre-half forward he was training as for a little while too. So, you know, that might throw a spanner in the works.
00:28:56
Guesty
Tough run for the beginning of the year as well.
00:29:00
Holmesy
Yep, beautiful. Sam, what about these Doggies players?
00:29:04
Sam
Yeah, so I think um Sam Davidson, he looked really good. um Obviously, he has won a lot of ball. i think he averaged ah high 60s in the VFL, so he's got a bit of senior footy under his belt.
00:29:21
Sam
um At 2.30, I think he's just about a lock in everyone's side. he If you were looking for F6 to maybe play, an F6 rookie, that is, to play on the field, I think that's someone you could even have a run with. I get nervous about full-time wingers, um but you know if that's if that suits your structure and helps you build a great side elsewhere on the ground, then I would just about tick it off.
00:29:47
Sam
um Tim English, if you're looking at him at r one I think he did everything that you wanted him to. um and then Riley Sanders, we've talked about a bit at the top of the pod, but yeah, did enough for me.
00:30:02
Sam
I think the interesting one, um kind of similar to Perryman, where we might we might be yeah on the fence, is Joel Frazier. Frazier.
00:30:12
Sam
Bailey Dale, again, i think was missing, um but he seemed to be the main user off the back line. i was um I was a little hesitant at first because I actually thought um Bramble might get um kind of the distributor role because I know โ€“ um think pretty highly of him but he seemed to just fade into the background a bit and Frazier seems to have taken a step forward he's found his way into my team um again no buy struggling for other options around that price but Holmesy what do you think of Joel Frazier
00:30:49
Holmesy
Yeah, he's a really interesting one. i'm so I'm still on the fence as well. I've had a few people ask me about him. I've i've been knowing it up until this point. um Second-year players, man, it's so hard for them to to average you know above 80, 85. Only the elite players tend to do it. But I spoke about it last year. like when From the moment he stepped into that side, he just looked like an AFL player. He didn't look out of his depth.
00:31:16
Holmesy
um And he's in the mold of someone that that can break out. And they have opportunity at the moment with, ah you know, Dale's a bit injured, but no, Johannesson, Richards has moved into the midfield.
00:31:27
Holmesy
So there's opportunity there. And I don't think we should really, like, it's going to be a big point as well that their midfield is decimated to start the year as well, meaning that there might be a little bit more ball back there.
00:31:38
Holmesy
um which means there's going to be more points on offer. And I know he made his way into your side, Louis, um as a bit of a, you know, going against Perryman or Roberts because there's as much value in in him at at a different price. Is that what you're seeing?
00:31:51
Lew
Well, yeah, that's exactly what I was going to say. ah Freedger's probably looking at like D5, D6 in my side, and so is a Perryman who, you know as you know, I'm not heaps hot on. And I think Guesty's not too far off the mark in saying that Perryman's got 10 to 15. But then I look at a Freedger at 60, and I think, well, I think he's got 10 to 15. And You know, he's a young player. He's looked great. He's passed the eye test and he's ticked the box in the preseason, albeit without Dale.
00:32:21
Lew
I'm sitting here thinking, well, maybe that's 80. You know, could it be 85? It's the role we look for, isn't it? These halfback roles. And if you can get involved in some kick-ins, like you said, Holmes, if the dogs just start a little bit poorly, there maybe there's a little bit more ball back there.
00:32:35
Lew
There's obviously plenty of points up for grabs in the midfield. So, you know, maybe that levels out a bit. I really like the pick there and I think he provides a bit of a value spot and maybe a little bit of a pivot point from from SDK
00:32:51
Lew
and
00:32:51
Holmesy
Yeah, yeah.
00:32:52
Lew
and no buy, of course.
00:32:54
Holmesy
Yeah, the no-buy is huge. I think they've got two relatively good matchups to start. Looking at it earlier today, I think it's North and the
00:33:00
Lew
northern pies and he's averaged 92 versus the pies in about um he's played about 10 games and he's versed them twice and he's averaged 92 so i like that
00:33:02
Holmesy
and the pies so
00:33:11
Holmesy
Yeah, and then he goes into some tougher games. But yeah, it's it's someone that wasn't on my radar, but but absolutely is. And I can see myself going there. So I'm not willing to to throw that out just yet.
00:33:23
Holmesy
Hami, let's now go to the Brisbane Adelaide game because this was a very important game for a lot of our structures with this Adelaide midfield um showing some value. What did you get out of this game?
00:33:35
Jon Harmey
Yes, yeah I saw ah ah quite a lot of this game and I guess ah I was predominantly tuning in, hoping to see a James Peatling massive game. and i didn't really feel as though I saw that, which I was actually a bit surprised to see the way he was rotating through that midfield. So, um look,
00:33:56
Jon Harmey
ah Some simple things. Rory Lord, ah Rory Laird, sorry. He'll be a back all year sitting behind the ball, hoping for a ball over the top and he'll just kick it back out.
00:34:07
Jon Harmey
um So I don't think that his value priced at his current point and I'm not even sure what that means for a dark draft, but I'll let people make their own mind up there.
00:34:19
Jon Harmey
Rankin liked what I saw.
00:34:19
Holmesy
Thank you.
00:34:20
Jon Harmey
Jordan Dawson everywhere. man he... He's just a gun and he will probably be a top 15 pick in almost every draft that you'll you'll see participating in this year. So Dawson was very, very good.
00:34:35
Jon Harmey
Will Ashcroft, a bit of a lower score, but he sort of got this head knock and he had to go off and get bandaged up. And I wouldn't be too concerned if you were keen on him before your 66 points isn't reflective of the game that he had.
00:34:48
Jon Harmey
But his brother Levi, I put him back into my team. um on the back of this because I just feel like he's going to be in their best 22 and they will want to get games into him um and he seems versatile enough to um maybe avoid the the vest as well. So I did like what I saw what from Levi Ashcroft.
00:35:10
Jon Harmey
Holmesy, what did you, did you see any of this one? Did you see that Adelaide midfield? It sort seemed to quite a few people running through there and a lot of Matt Crouch, which I was a bit surprised to see.
00:35:20
Holmesy
Yeah, look, I did. And to be honest, i'm not I'm not off Matt Crouch as much as the rest of the fantasy community. I think a lot of the fantasy community is just hoping that Matt k Crouch just fades away because they want their their players to get the opportunity.
00:35:29
Jon Harmey
Yep.
00:35:35
Holmesy
But... From the back end of 2023, when he broke back into the side, and then 2024, there's been nothing to suggest that the coaching staff at Adelaide don't like him in that role.
00:35:45
Jon Harmey
you
00:35:45
Holmesy
He's been getting coaches' votes.
00:35:46
Jon Harmey
yeahp
00:35:48
Holmesy
um He's very crucial. He's so good at the clearance and getting it out to your Rankins and your Dawsons on the run. And Saligo's shown to be very explosive as well. So i think he's part of their plans. He only plays midfield. He's not going to be rotating forward, you wouldn't have thought. And that's why I think that a peatling is...
00:36:06
Holmesy
For me, at least, he fits the mold of a player that we don't start, but we trade into early. if come round one and round two, he's got the role that we thought he was going to have. I think it's too risky to start him. If he's only getting sort of 30% to 40% because he's that fifth guy rotating, and yes, he's going to have some good games where he gets ah on the end of some stuff and and tackles, but he's also going have some floor games as well, which might our limit his ceiling a bit. Guesty, what do you think?
00:36:35
Guesty
Yeah, well, like this midfield mix at Adelaide, is there's a lot of questions around it.
00:36:37
Holmesy
and
00:36:39
Guesty
and I'm um a bit in agreeance with you about James Peatling. I've had him in my team all season, but I've since removed him. i wanted to actually bounce it back at you, Harmy, because the thing that I really took away from this game was Isaac Rankin being the leading CBA attendee for that game.
00:36:57
Guesty
I mean, I think we all saw some sort of bump in the in CBAs for him this year. But, you know, if that's how they're going to play him this year, then he could be, you know, over a ton. I mean, is that is that how you kind of see the the CBAs playing out for Adelaide, you know, particularly early in the year?
00:37:12
Jon Harmey
Yeah, I definitely see him being over 50% CBAs. I'm pretty sure he started in there and he seems to be one of the first choice.
00:37:19
Sam
Thank you.
00:37:20
Jon Harmey
He said himself early in the pre-season that he sees himself as a midfielder and I thought that was him trying to talk Matthew Nix into playing him there, but it does seem to be what's occurring.
00:37:30
Jon Harmey
So, So 100 is a bit of ah an ask, but I think that here he's potentially going higher than what he's currently averaged at and as a premium forward.
00:37:40
Jon Harmey
If we didn't have those value picks available in the forward, I think a lot more people would be starting with him.
00:37:48
Holmesy
Yeah, look, and even Saligo is looking really good as well. ah A lot of coaches were forecasting him to play a little bit more wing time, which might still eventuate. um But I think what we've seen so far in the preseason and the messaging coming out of Adelaide is that their rotation isn't going to be as tight as it once was with a Laird-Dawson up around 75% to 80%. They're going to split it around, which...
00:38:10
Holmesy
Can limit it for for some players, but Jordan Dawson, I think at this point, I'm pretty close to locking him in at M1. There's just something about him this year. We've spoken about you know Patrick Cripps two years ago when you just look at a player in pre-season and and they look primed for a big year.
00:38:26
Holmesy
And I think Dawson is that player this year. And I think I'm predicting Adelaide to to kind of bounce up the ladder as well. Sam, would you agree?
00:38:34
Sam
ah Yeah, on Dawson, um i was I was actually disappointed he went so massive because I was hoping to get him in in draft maybe a bit later than others. But, yeah, he looks absolutely awesome. um Just on Pete Ling, I'm also ah slipped him out of my side, but I thought I would play devil's advocate a little bit um for maybe the listeners who are still really interested.
00:39:01
Sam
I think there is still a good argument. um if he fits your structure and he helps you build a good team to get him in there. um We talked about kind of the CBA threshold. So even at the Giants, he averaged 88 with just 40% plus CBAs.
00:39:20
Sam
So it shows that he doesn't need 50%, 60% CBAs to go massive. um Now, that was a giant side that I think scored a lot more fantasy points and is generally a lot better than this Adelaide team.
00:39:29
Jon Harmey
Thank you.
00:39:34
Sam
But if you if you like Peatling and he's been in your side all pre-season and he helps you with your structure, I wouldn't necessarily draw a line through him completely. mean,
00:39:45
Jon Harmey
Yeah, look, the other thing, ah maybe I was a bit harsh, but the other thing with Pete Ling is he was a sub about five times last year for GWS and, and you know, wasn't really getting a decent run until right at the end of the season when they decided they didn't want to let him go. So he he will still be quite a good ah value pick, I believe, but he's just not getting ah the quantity of CBOs that I thought he would.
00:40:11
Lew
It's still in my side.
00:40:13
Holmesy
Oh, hey, Luke. Still with us. That's good. Hard to see you there without the the webcam, boys. that's ah That's a good segue because I think if you're not starting peatling, then you're you're looking for someone around that similar price point.
00:40:25
Holmesy
And that leads us to the next game, which is GWS and Carlton. And is Carlton, the the guys going up against Ollie Hollands, had that halfback role. I haven't been a believer all preseason, but he has found his way into my side.
00:40:39
Holmesy
Not because I necessarily think he's going to score that much more than Peatling, but I really like the idea of being able to throw him back into defence come round six um if he scores well enough because of how we're really struggling with our defensive line. So he had the role, only the five marks, didn't have his insane time on ground that he usually has, but he looked good. He had some kickouts as well.
00:41:00
Holmesy
um And with that Richmond game in round one and and some soft matchups to start, I think Ollie Hollands is now someone that's firmly on my radar. I like the look of that. But Harmi, I'm going to go to you for this one. Adam Chera, put him on the radar very early in preseason before a lot of podcasts were even back.
00:41:17
Holmesy
He's been fit and healthy up to this point in the preseason. So that's one tick that we said he needed to have. um He has the midfield role. Admittedly, no Sam Walsh, but I still am a firm believer that he is a part of their top three midfielders.
00:41:30
Holmesy
80 points from just 58% time on ground, barely played in that sort of second half. Adam Chera, has he has he found his way into your side?
00:41:40
Jon Harmey
Who put him in the radar, you or me?
00:41:44
Holmesy
It was definitely me, mate.
00:41:45
Jon Harmey
Oh, all right. must have been an early adopter then too, because I've been on Terra for quite some time. ah I was very impressed with what he did. I mean, he still, um it was one of these things where you could tell he's ah a first-rate midfielder and he wasn't absolutely flogging himself, as opposed to Nick Dacos, who was trying to get the pill at every opportunity he had. But ah he did some excellent things. He's in the top three rotation. As you pointed out, I just think that he is in for a very good season. and With a touch of uncertainty still surrounding Sam Walsh, I'm pretty keen to start with him.
00:42:21
Holmesy
Now, Lou, the the rookie that sort of has bolted to towards round one start is Lucas Camparelli. And admittedly, maybe it's a bit of a flow-on effect from Jagger Smith ah with a spot in that sort of 22 opening up.
00:42:34
Holmesy
He looked fantastic on the wing, working up and down, getting a lot of ball in transition out of the back line as well and and then getting busy up the ground. The question I have for you, Lou, is... Doherty only played a half in that game. So clearly they're managing his minutes and and we think that Doc's going to be ah a midfielder and playing out on the wing.
00:42:52
Holmesy
Does he scream a sub-vest candidate for you? And if so, despite the fact we've seen him score okay and looks good, if he's going to be a sub-vest candidate, I'm not sure we can go there.
00:43:02
Lew
Yeah, no, I think he will be, Holmesy. Like you said, Doc didn't play there entirely on the weekend. They didn't have a Jackson Bins either. um Spoke about it on the on the Keeper League earlier today that they've basically shifted um Hollands down to half-back so that they can accommodate Bins on a wing and then Camporeali sort of comes in and And slices his bread there. So um I think they're right on the precipice, 22, 23. It's the easiest position ah to sub as well because wingmen working up and down all day, um you know they're going to need ah little bit of a blower. And if i can get a fresh player on in the third quarter, then you're aces. So um yeah, sub candidate here.
00:43:48
Holmesy
Yeah, look, i'm I'm still interested. Obviously, he has Richmond round one, which means he could have an absolute field day there. But yeah, just for me, just scream sub-candidate. And i'm I'm trying to stay away from these rookies this year because im I'm sick of having these red dots early on in the season that just burn a hole in your side and aren't making cash.
00:44:07
Holmesy
Guesty, and that goes to another one of our rookies. So James Leak didn't play, well, only played the last quarter in the first practice game, but then was the leading CBA getter um on the weekend. And Having not seen too much about him, he's ah he's a big boy. He does not look, um you know, looks there at AFL level. He was very, very much inside.
00:44:26
Holmesy
I suppose the question is, Guesty, do we see him as the Tom Green replacement, as that bull in the midfield, bigger body? And if Tom Green's going to be back after their bye or very soon after, can we see James Leak still being in that side? Or, yeah, what do you think?
00:44:42
Guesty
Oh, look, um i'm not I'm not sure if I see him as someone like a Tom Green replacement, but, um you know, i mean, as a 230K rookie that we're kind of looking to slot into our defensive side, so there's not a huge amount that I'm expecting from him, but, you know, I guess it sends a bit of a message when he's the the cat that gets the the most CBAs for for the side for the day, so...
00:45:04
Guesty
For me, he's a pretty easy kind of safe lock away in that defensive line. And, you know, I think the other thing for me is just more, we're just limited with options in that defensive line. So, you know, we probably, some of us are probably looking to pay up for a Jackson Pryor, even though he's bit of a lockdown defender.
00:45:18
Guesty
um You know, we've got Zach Reid, who we know from past seasons hasn't scored that well, although, you know, it's probably offered a little bit of... a hope for coaches this year but yeah for me it's just it's just a pretty easy 230k rook got game time gonna just sit him on the bench there and just see what happens obviously we got the state around as well you know
00:45:36
Holmesy
Yep. Agree with that.
00:45:40
Holmesy
Yeah, a hundred percent. And if it's going to be wet, that's going to be right in his wheelhouse. A couple of other players to note, Connor Stone had that halfback role, played a full game, um scored 51, which is absolutely acceptable from a basement rookie. Hopefully he's got job security and and he wins that position, but he hasn't done his chances any harm. And,
00:45:59
Holmesy
TDK, 79% off the 58% time on ground. Lightcherra didn't play that last quarter. He did everything that we needed to see. Yes, he was only up against ah Harmy's boy, Lockie Keefe.
00:46:11
Holmesy
ah But yeah, he looks fantastic. And I think at this stage, he's not one to go against. And if we we all do it, then we all look to get off if and when Pitnett comes back. um But I think we just deal with that when it comes to it.
00:46:25
Holmesy
Next game, we had the Gold Coast-Sydney game. And Louis, I want to start with you. There's one player who's, we've been so we've spoken about him, but he hasn't really been on our radars because he's had an interrupted preseason. But playing this game shows that he's got some kind of match fitness. We're going to get a look in opening round, albeit in a wet affair. But did Dan Rioli do enough for you, Lou, to consider as an underpriced defender despite the fact he's got a buy?
00:46:51
Lew
Oh, look, to the eye, he probably did. the um I was really keen on Rioli beforehand, and the main thing that I wanted to see from him was the kick-ins, and and that's what we've seen from some of those defenders in that Gold Coast side that have really sort of excelled in fantasy, and we just didn't see that on the weekend. So i think he's still good enough to outperform what he's priced at without the kick-ins, but I think...
00:47:17
Lew
If he's not getting more of those, then it probably limits his output and and um throttles him from being that smash pick that you'd ah that you'd pick without the buy, or with the buy, rather.
00:47:29
Holmesy
Yeah, look, Essendon in round zero, Eagles in round one at Optus could be ah could be a bit of a pod and and get your way to a flyer. I'm still unsure. He's had the limited preseason. and But yeah, the Gold Coast, they they play the way they do. They chip it around in the back line and and then go bang. And he's going to be a big part of what they do this year. At a minimum, he's someone you bump up your draft board.
00:47:50
Holmesy
I'm still not there yet though, Lou.
00:47:52
Lew
Yeah, they've got a lot back there now too. They've got Noble and they've got Jeffrey who ah they both showed plenty on the weekend. So um they they might all come up a little bit and go 85 rather than one of them excelling.
00:48:06
Holmesy
Sand?
00:48:08
Sam
Yeah, not to mention the forgotten man, Will Powell, who actually had the most kick-ins in that game. And I noticed that he's been elevated into the leadership group for Gold Coast as well. So maybe they see him as the, I mean, he's I think he's younger than Rioli, but perhaps he's the preferred kind of senior head, but so to speak, and the preferred kick-in taker at this stage.
00:48:32
Jon Harmey
Sam, five kick-ins. I wouldn't say that's too much to write home about, though.
00:48:37
Sam
Sure, thats that's fair, but I think they were they were split 50-50 between him and Joel Jeffrey, which is another one that he seems to keep coming and going out of this Gold Coast side.
00:48:38
Jon Harmey
ah
00:48:49
Sam
Yeah, I thought if if they were going to use Rioli from a kick-in perspective, maybe they'd give him a few in there in the community series. But yeah, obviously not.
00:49:00
Jon Harmey
Fair enough.
00:49:02
Holmesy
Harmi, I'll stick with you. Matt Roberts, 1-12 from bit of limited game time. Looked fantastic. Hasn't been someone I've been too keen on for most of the preseason, mainly because I've just had Callum Mills locked away and didn't want too many on that bye. But...
00:49:18
Holmesy
Matt Roberts, what do we think he can do from from a 75-ish price tag? Is their scope to be above 90 as that main ball user out of halfback? Nick Blakey didn't play in the last quarter, I think, and that coincided with a big second half from Roberts.
00:49:35
Holmesy
It looks like they're going to have the kick-ins It's always hard to average above 90 if you're not getting the the bulk share of the kick-ins, but is Matt Roberts someone that's coming to your side or your calculations?
00:49:48
Jon Harmey
Oh, look, I'm definitely interested. ah he's somebody that I've been um sort of watching, I guess, all pre-season. I think last year, look, I don't have my notes in front of me, mate, but last season, off the top of my head, he was the sub about three times. um The only reason i was a little bit off him was he didn't finish the final series with super high scores, but there was a patch here towards the end of the season where he was pumping out some ridiculous numbers and um If he can sort of come in, be a main distributor, get the ball off the lizard a bit and get a few kicks out of that back line, he's very well going to be over 80. So, yeah, I'm interested. and And once again, we see what happens in round zero.
00:50:30
Holmesy
Yep, 100% caveat on that. And we spoke about Angus Sheldrick before. Keep him in your in your watch list. See what he does opening round. But he's definitely put his hand up with those injuries as a 400K player with your O'Driscolls and your Nevitz as someone that can fit into your side if you're not willing to pay up for some of these rookies.
00:50:48
Holmesy
And then just have a look at some of the other rookies as well. Bice scored all right. I'm not sure he's best 22 and same as Warner. They've still got the other Warner and Heaney and some other ah best 22 players to come back in.
00:50:59
Jon Harmey
Thank you.
00:51:00
Holmesy
Lou, this game, I'm not sure what we can take out of it. Port Adelaide, St Kilda, Port Adelaide just absolutely smashed them in all areas of the game. What did you see from this game that's ah got us interested
00:51:13
Lew
Yeah, I mean, like I said at the top of the show, it was a tough game to to read too much into just because it was so one-sided um the other way. And I suspect that um just throughout... There were some moves during the game for St Kilda where it just didn't make a lot of sense to me. And I think that they were just so far behind um that they just threw the magnets around and tried some different sort of scenarios. Like we saw Wanganeem Malera taking centre bounces and things like that. Just...
00:51:40
Lew
Not things that we generally see in a game of footy. So that being said, you know, if we are um if we're dissecting the players, we've already spoken a little bit about Connor Rose and Jason Horne-Francis. I think they're going to be pretty much two and three in that midfield, if not one and two.
00:51:57
Lew
So nothing to worry about there.
00:51:57
Guesty
Thank
00:51:58
Lew
They've been done to death. um But I think where the the interest in this game from a port sort of perspective for a lot of fantasy coaches is that defensive line and It's probably been the topic all preseason, who who replaces Dan Houston? Where do those points go? And um this game but really wasn't wasn't the game to sort of tell us. I mean, we had some massive spike-mark games from various players. Yeah.
00:52:24
Lew
Logan Evans is probably one that coaches have had their eyes on. He's got 108. ah Looked good. i Didn't take any kick-ins, but I think he's going to be a major part of Port's defense this year. And I think potentially him alongside, I think said Burton on the record before, might have the most upside from that Dan Houston sort of removal from that defense.
00:52:50
Lew
ah Did any of you guys catch this this game on the weekend?
00:52:54
Guesty
a I watched, I think I watched about a half of it.
00:52:58
Jon Harmey
Yep, same. Connor Rosey.
00:53:01
Lew
Did you...
00:53:01
Guesty
it was ah It was a half, I mean, St Kilda looked terrible, particularly in that first quarter. um They kind of started to show something a little bit in the second, but that's as about as much far as I watched. It's, yeah, I mean, Port were just pumping them.
00:53:12
Lew
Yeah, it was it was tough to watch, and that that's why it's really hard to draw too much from it. If you are a Cain Farrell fan, he had three kick-ins to Sins 2. I'm not necessarily sure Sins is best 22 or consistently anyway, which you know might mean he's got a mortgage on those kick-ins, in which case there might be some upside in a Cain Farrell if you were Cain.
00:53:33
Lew
Jordan Sweet scored the 86 from 68% game time. He shared that with Ivan Soldo, who um didn't look too flash. So I think Jordan Sweet will go in ah as the only Ruckman in round one.
00:53:47
Lew
And um he's still really... quite high in consideration for me to start in my classic side still. um are Any of you guys got any fleeting interest here or are you going to go sort of paying up with some of these um big dogs in a cherry and an English?
00:54:06
Holmesy
Yeah, look, I'm not i'm not interested in ah in a Jordan suite. I think we've spoken about the natural progression. We can't pinpoint anything from last year that suggests you know he's underpriced because he had some injury games. Yes, he was in and out a little bit with Soldo early, but he had that main ruck role for most of the year. Yes, he was playing for Port.
00:54:25
Holmesy
Is this second year or is this first year? though I can't remember off the top of my head, but he's only going to get better from a system point of view. ah just don't think there's enough upside there to really justify picking him. He'd have to... He'd have to really go close to that 100 mark, which we've seen you know only the elite Ruckman do, um which makes it a bit tough for me. I think you either go up to the top or you you dabble with an English or someone around that price point. I just don't think there's enough there.
00:54:49
Holmesy
for Jordan Sweet, Harmy. But big question I've got for you, your boy, Hugo Garcia, has he done enough ah to be in your side? He had the role, didn't score too well early, didn't tackle like he normally does either. So probably a bit of scope there for improvement, knowing that he's going to tackle more in the real thing. But, you know, are St. Kilda going to get smashed this year, which could make it even that midfield role hard for him to score?
00:55:13
Jon Harmey
Well, um as we've said, the best players in the pre-season were Arlen looking at the role, Holmesy, and we saw it was there.
00:55:23
Holmesy
You absolutely nailed that. Harmi, last one, Lou, before we move on to the next game. Nassai Wangani-Milera has been your D1 for a very long time. Is this just a case of they got flogged? He wasn't really necessarily trying um in that second half. He looked good early, them using him off that halfback line. he someone that's well and truly still in your calculations as D1?
00:55:44
Lew
Yeah, absolutely. Looked great in that first quarter and took the kick-ins. And yeah, I'm not too worried about any sort of midfield time. Might be a little bit further up the ground. We'll see what that sort of um holds for him. But no, I'm still quite keen there. And I think he's got value regardless.
00:56:01
Holmesy
One last thing, sorry, off the the top of my head. Harry Boyd, has he done enough to to play as the Rock in round one, knowing that Marshall might have to to go forward or is he not?
00:56:12
Lew
Oh, Max King's out now, isn't he? So ah think um that's going to give him the inside lane to play around one. i really do see Boyd playing alongside Marshall for quite a number of weeks, to be honest with you. I can see Marshall playing um a number of weeks up forward, which might mean that we can get him as a cheap ruckman and possibly even DBP a little bit later on.
00:56:36
Holmesy
ah Imagine if Marshall got forward status. Far out. that would be ah That would be delicious.
00:56:42
Lew
Bit of a throwback to 2017, I reckon.
00:56:42
Holmesy
Guesty.
00:56:44
Lew
can
00:56:45
Holmesy
Yeah, yeah, absolutely. Guesty, why don't you run us through the Eagles-North Melbourne game?
00:56:51
Guesty
Sure, mate. Well, look, I think a couple of weeks ago, this would have been a pretty relevant game, but I think the Eagles showed us that um there's not really as many relevant players. I mean, particularly, think we've we've also got some more forward value options, which have kind of maybe moved some of those people like Jack Hutchinson and, you know, certainly like a Jack Raymond, Liam Baker out.
00:57:11
Guesty
I think the biggest thing to take away from this game was, and while I don't know the exact figure, I think last year the Eagles averaged about 1,300 fantasy points or mid-1,300 fantasy points a game. And um on Sunday, was it Sunday or Saturday, ah they only managed to score 1,168. And I think that's a real kind of... and that new kind of system that Minnie McWalter has brought to the to the Eagles, they're going moving the ball really quickly. There's not going to be a lot of possessions and not a lot of fantasy points. So, yeah, I think people like, you know, Bayhead Graham, Flynn, who a lot of people might have been considering it kind of been rubbed out of consideration. ah There has been a little bit of talk about Archer Reid with his basement ruck forward as possibly and another option for Harry Boyd. but But, yeah, I think he actually only played because Oscar Allen was out. So i don't really see him as an option.
00:58:02
Guesty
And then probably the most relevant of the Eagles, which was Bo Allen, who we were probably looking at as one of those defensive options. He may have even been a D6 for a lot of people. Only managing to score the 13. I do think his job security is pretty solid and I do think he will score better than a 13.
00:58:17
Guesty
But anyone that can put up a 13 has got to be a real concern. Harmi, did you got something to say about that
00:58:24
Jon Harmey
Yeah, 13 and a half a game though, Guesty. Does that make it any better? Because he scored zero in the other half of the game.
00:58:31
Guesty
that? Didn't get?
00:58:31
Sam
Yeah.
00:58:32
Guesty
ah you Well, there you go, mate. But, yeah, yeah. But obviously, it was on the ground for about, I think it was 73% time on ground. So, yeah, that's that's a big concern for me. So, I don't know if i want a rookie that can score that sitting in my...
00:58:43
Guesty
defensive line probably to go to the other end of the uh the price scale uh with trish tristian cherry which um certainly you know watching him rack up 133 points um left me with a little bit of fomo because i've been fading him so far this season uh look it took me a little while to get over it a few hours at least and and also recording of the the and for fantasy fanatics podcast but i've kind of calmed myself down and i'm back to normal and you know, kind of really just told myself that, you know, he was up against the Eagles. You know, wasn't his competition wasn't really that much chop.
00:59:15
Guesty
um And while he's probably going to score high in that first round of the season up against English, his next five games are pretty rough. So um i think up against those those teams last year, he only averaged 100. So, you know, I can see him, you know, coming out of maybe round six, averaging 105. And, you know, that's what I'm betting on and I'm i'm going another way.
00:59:37
Guesty
Harry Shiesel was another one that really kind of scared me as well. Like he just seemed to be able to run around and do whatever the hell he wanted and and racked up. But once again, we've got to consider the competition. um And for me, I've just kind of been sat in the place where he's priced at 117.
00:59:50
Guesty
He's probably going to go a little bit higher than that. Sorry, maybe it's not 117, but he's priced higher
00:59:53
Holmesy
1.12, I think.
00:59:55
Guesty
Yeah, 112. Sorry. Thanks, Holmes. And um I mean, I don't see any reason why midfielders are going to score any more this year than what they would last year, considering that more sides are even moving to that faster-flowing footy. So we saw last year mids were scoring a maximum of 110. So I think, you know, Harry Sheezyn throughout Dewey's price is going yeah, it's going to be pretty tough for him. So...
01:00:18
Guesty
um Apart from those, you know, Caleb Daniel, I think, is locked away in a Finn O'Sullivan who we probably were a little worried about, has probably found a way onto our ground or certainly been one of those top two kind of rooks.
01:00:30
Guesty
Harms, what have you got to offer there, mate?
01:00:31
Jon Harmey
Yeah, that Fino Sullivan score and role, like, he he was bloody good, wasn't he? So, yeah,
01:00:37
Guesty
Kind of had the ah the role of like a Sheasler or a McKirtra. You know, that kind of had that little bit of halfback time after a half time.
01:00:43
Jon Harmey
yeah
01:00:44
Guesty
So, yeah, well...
01:00:44
Jon Harmey
more wing, yeah. But still, I mean, phew.
01:00:48
Holmesy
he's just He's just one of those players, like I mentioned earlier, those rookies that just he came in and just looked like an AFL player. He was going back with the flight and taking intercept marks.
01:00:48
Guesty
there.
01:00:59
Holmesy
um He just didn't look out of place. And I think the job security is he's going to be there. If he's on a wing, he's going to have some down games, but you hope he's someone that can you know average 55-60 and tick over and and hopefully you know maybe get us a score if he needs to come on field during the buy rounds or or maybe even be on field. But yeah, I liked what I saw from Fino Sullivan. He wasn't someone I was considering initially in the preseason because um he didn't really have good junior numbers. He was more of an impact player, but it just shows you can be an impact player and come in and have that style of game in the AFL and and look pretty good.
01:01:31
Guesty
So yeah I guess the big question for me, for you guys, is, and obviously great coaches to ask with so many hats amongst you, are you guys starting with Trish and Cherry?
01:01:41
Holmesy
army
01:01:44
Jon Harmey
Holmes is not, but I am at this point. That's the correct answer.
01:01:48
Guesty
Yeah.
01:01:49
Holmesy
Sam, Sam, have you got cherry?
01:01:52
Sam
ah Yes, yes, I've got Cherry.
01:01:55
Holmesy
Louie?
01:01:56
Lew
I'm Tim English.
01:01:59
Holmesy
Yeah, so we're we're divided, which is which is interesting.
01:01:59
Guesty
Yeah.
01:02:02
Holmesy
um Yeah, look, I just think from that game on the weekend, if you were interested in Cherry or you were interested in Sheezle, they did absolutely nothing wrong and you should still be interested. But looking at that game, they haven't done anything that we already don't know that they can do.
01:02:19
Holmesy
in in actual fact, I'm pretty sure Cherry had 150 on the Eagles last year. So he's actually, he went 20 unders, what we know he can do. So yeah, But but yeah yeah, Matt Flynn in it.
01:02:29
Lew
yeah you know
01:02:31
Holmesy
Yeah, go look.
01:02:32
Lew
so i was just ah In a lot of ways, my fear isn't sort of um not starting or starting Tristan Cherry. It's actually almost putting the captain on him. Because if you put the captain on him and goes poorly across one of those five rounds, which we think are a bit tough, 55% of the comp,
01:02:50
Lew
um And they're all going to put the C on him because that's why you pay up for him. And he drops one of those 80s. That's when it really starts to hurt. I'm not too concerned about the selection because I think he's a keeper. And I think he will sort of average near enough what he's priced at um for the season being. But yeah, the captain option is looking at the other way is a bit interesting to me.
01:03:13
Holmesy
Yeah, the other thing Lou's and DC summed it up very well on the Holmes files is when are you going to get him? Like when round six, round seven rolls around, he's just come out of that tough run and he's starting to get some nicer matchups.
01:03:25
Holmesy
You want to be getting these rookies off the field and getting into a nice upgrade cadence. You don't want to be wasting a trade going at a Tom DeConing or a Tim English to to Tristan Cherry. That's a bit of a nothing trade. So that's the other end as well is Yes, he might start a bit slow, but he's going to have those nice matchups eventually. and And then if he has those ceiling scores and gets his average back up, then you may as well have started him anyway. So that's, yeah, look, I haven't i haven't ruled it out just yet. And if I have a starting squad that I'm very happy with and I've got some cash left over, then I may i may well pay up for Tristan Cherry. He's just not there at the moment, Sam.
01:03:57
Sam
Yeah, I think Harmi coined the phrase ah kick with the wind um on the last podcast that we had. And with these picks that, you know, are over 30% owned in the competition, if I can't find a good reason not to pick them, I'm kind of almost, I feel like my hand is forced.
01:04:16
Sam
And then quick segue, because last week on the pod, someone asked whether Tom Powell was a good choice. And I told him that he was my boy and I still wasn't picking him, but boy,
01:04:27
Sam
As he started to turn some heads again, eh?
01:04:28
Lew
Haha.
01:04:30
Jon Harmey
Well, Sam, you must have influenced me because in the same draft where I picked up D1, Sicily for Holmesy, I've actually picked up Powell at about M3, think, from memory.
01:04:43
Holmesy
Yeah, he's good.
01:04:43
Sam
M3.
01:04:45
Holmesy
He's good. No Simpkin and no Parker playing the Eagles. But yeah, absolutely. All signs point to Tom Powell having a breakout. I think he's still a draft option there, Sammy. And we'll be fighting to get him as late as we can this weekend. But ah yeah, can't argue that he's set for a breakout.
01:05:01
Holmesy
Last game, lads. we've ah We've been smashing this so far. Fremantle versus Melbourne. Look, Harmi, you can go for us. um The interesting part was the Melbourne midfield. And let's start with Trent Rivers because he didn't have he didn't have the role we were hoping for. He was still behind Oliver, Viney and Petrarca, meaning that you know if he's M4 or maybe even M5, I don't think he's going to have the the ceiling games to average 95 that we'd need him to from that price point. But what did you see from this game?
01:05:31
Jon Harmey
ah Yeah, I was feeling a little bit sick watching Trent Rivers sit on that back flank, actually. um Yeah, it was a bit sad and I removed him from my team. Look, ah just on Frio, they looked pretty good.
01:05:46
Jon Harmey
I wasn't too sure what to make of Brayshaw. With that head strapping thing, Holmes, he must have like knocked his eye in the warm-up because that was on there from the start of the game.
01:05:57
Jon Harmey
But anyway, look, um he was just sort of going through the motions a bit, Brayshaw, and I feel like he did that last week. So for those starting him as the M1, I'm not sure if we should be worried at all. Is he set for 110 or is he just going to cruise around for a 90 season average? But... um Look, I really did like the game of Nathan O'Driscoll.
01:06:17
Jon Harmey
um Started off slow, but built really well and finished very ah very strongly in the game. um Yeah, Caleb Strong, I think he sat out the last quarter, so don't stress about that 88 score that he put up.
01:06:31
Jon Harmey
Christian Petrarca, man, he killed it. he He was the best player on the ground, I reckon. um So I talked about him really early in the preseason before he got injured, priced at 90, so...
01:06:41
Guesty
Thank you.
01:06:42
Jon Harmey
Yeah, I mean, you bump him up your draft boards. I'm not sure if you could start him ah for classic. um And Clayton Oliver, look, he he was very good. I wouldn't, you know, there's a bit of bloody people trying to knock what he had done, but he scored bloody well and i wouldn't be criticising his game.
01:06:59
Jon Harmey
Max Gorn played a very good game. And Ed Langdon played took Trent Rivers' spot in the midfield, would you believe it? So I'm not sure what term um what Goodwin's doing there with that midfield, but it may be less keen on Rivers, let's put it that way.
01:07:14
Holmesy
Louie, I'll just throw to you with the the Nathan O'Driscoll game because you've been one of his biggest fans. You actually put him on our radars very early in the preseason. The game, he started very slow. I think it was donuts or close to it in the first quarter off low time on ground and then built into it nicely.
01:07:29
Holmesy
You mentioned ah pre-pod and and last night that he had a big last quarter and that coincided with Caleb Sorong going out and him getting a midfield rotation. Is he still someone that's on your radar?
01:07:41
Jon Harmey
Thank you.
01:07:42
Lew
Yeah, he is. it's It's interesting how to read it because, yeah, he was missing the entire first quarter, but then, you know, all of a sudden he springs up and he's putting up 30-point quarters. So if he can put that together on the other end, then all of a sudden he's a great mid-priced pick.
01:07:59
Lew
I'm still bullish on Nathan O'Driscoll. He's mature age. I think he's got a role split between that wing and and midfield. And I think the time is now for him. He looks like he's fit, ready to go. and Yeah, I think the Fremantle wingers have sort of accommodated in that 70 average. So if he can spike early for us, that'll be a good one.
01:08:22
Lew
Guesty?
01:08:23
Guesty
Yeah, look, i I'm a bit concerned about the wing role. I'm a bit concerned about where he fits into that Frio side as well. But look, I kind of wanted to ask you, Lou, um we've got a couple other players around that same price. We've got an Angus Sheldrick. We've got a, obviously, a Noddy. We've got a Hugo Garcia. And you might even throw a Mitch Nevin into it as well.

Player Rankings Discussion

01:08:42
Guesty
how How would you rank those four? Because I think they're going to be some pretty relevant players that some of us are trying to wedge into our team.
01:08:48
Lew
Well, I think I've got Garcia towards the top just for that forward status. he He's probably arguably got the best role of the lot. um Nevitt, I'm keen on.
01:09:00
Lew
ah just need to see that role. I don't quite trust Chris Scott yet, but all signs point to him playing in that position.
01:09:07
Holmesy
Thank you.
01:09:08
Lew
ah The other two were, sorry, Guesty, it was Nod and Sheldrick.
01:09:11
Guesty
So Nod and Sheldrick.
01:09:13
Lew
I've got Nod second, and then for the reasons spoken about before, and and then I've got Sheldrick first, just based on a variety of things, his junior pedigree, what he's actually done at AFL level in the role, couple of injuries there, um but that will be quite round zero dependent as well.
01:09:33
Holmesy
Beautiful.

Team Selection Insights

01:09:34
Holmesy
and And Harmi is ah another fellow hat winner on the podcast. We're just going to put our hats out for Liam Reedy, R2 owners. Got absolutely smashed by Max Gorn. And I wouldn't be surprised if Freo backflip on the the Liam Reedy main ruck and decide to go Jackson early days because he doesn't really provide them too much. And he's definitely not someone that we can flirt with at r two at least at this stage. Admittedly, though, he does have Sam Deconi in round one. So maybe there's, well, clearly it's going to be easier than Max Gorn.
01:10:03
Holmesy
um But I'm not willing to go there. Sam, what do you have to say?
01:10:09
Sam
Yeah, just on Guesty's question about how do you rank those four, I think Lou's pretty spot on. um I've got Sheldrick and Nathan O'Driscoll in my team at the moment, and I'm going to let Mitch Nebbett force my hand um a little bit. If he has a good round zero score and looks nice, he could definitely come in probably over O'Driscoll for me.
01:10:31
Holmesy
Yep, don't mind that at all.
01:10:32
Lew
Yeah, I'll think I'll him this name.
01:10:33
Holmesy
another one that yeah Another one that put their hand up on the weekend was ah Murphy Reid as a ah rookie priced option. Just be aware, there was no Hayden Young in that game and he's going to be back um relatively early to start the season.
01:10:45
Holmesy
And I think Reid has sub-vests written all over him. They really like what he does, but he just screams impact player, ah potential green vest to come on late. Or yeah, that's that's the way I read it anyway, but we'll we'll see how we go.

Players to Watch and Wrap-Up

01:10:58
Holmesy
Boys, one hour ten. We've absolutely gone through that. Incredible for all the listeners leading up to round zero. Question without notice as we finish off. Harmi, going to start with you and we're going to go round table.
01:11:10
Holmesy
Who's one round zero player that you are most keen to watch this round to force their way into your side or to hold their spot?
01:11:22
Jon Harmey
I'll say Matt Roberts I'm looking for a defender and he's the one that if he puts his hand up I'm definitely more keen
01:11:30
Holmesy
Sam?
01:11:33
Sam
ah Yeah, I'll go oh stick fat and I'll say Mitch Nevitt.
01:11:38
Holmesy
Yep, really like that. Guesty?
01:11:40
Guesty
I'll probably go Harry Perryman. um I mean, I'm not sure that Houston being out in that first game will impact him too much, but it could.
01:11:49
Holmesy
Lou?
01:11:50
Lew
I'll say Dan Rioli, but also I'm hoping a Nick Dacos does something freakish and and really just throws the competition into a bit of chaos before round one.
01:12:04
Holmesy
yep tommy
01:12:08
Jon Harmey
Oh, was waiting for you to go, Holmesy, but what was going to say was one that we should be watching this week is Bailey Smith because if he doesn't play, then there's probably a bit of chaos, Lou, in the forward lines, hey?
01:12:22
Jon Harmey
Anyway, sorry, back to you, Holmesy.
01:12:22
Lew
Nah, pick him anyway. I'll pick him blonde.
01:12:25
Holmesy
Yep, well, we can discuss Bailey Smith on the the podcast next week. I'll go with your Essendon bomber, Harmy, Dylan Scheel, if that role is really there. Mason Redman still to come back into the side. But yeah, if he ah has a big round zero score, he may force our hand knowing what the bombers like to do in that back line. But that's going to wrap it up for us, guys. Thank you so much for jumping on. We really appreciate it.
01:12:49
Holmesy
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01:13:00
Holmesy
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Holmesy
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01:13:28
Holmesy
Boys, really looking forward to round zero this week. Footy's back. We'll be back on Monday next week to review round zero and to help set you up for the big AFL fantasy season to come. Enjoy.