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Farewell Bye Rounds | Strategy Round Table | AFL Fantasy Q&A #PODPOD

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The full panel is back for an epic review of round 4 this week! Join Holmesy, Harmey, Lewy and Sam as they discuss all of the relevant topics leading into the first round of best 22 since round 1. The season starts now!

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Transcript

Introduction and AFL Fantasy Overview

00:00:18
Holmesy
G'day and welcome to the Pod Pod. It's Holmesy here talking all things AFL Fantasy Classic for you on this Monday night, 7th of April. Yes, the buy rounds have been and gone.
00:00:29
Holmesy
We're about to see which

Panel Introductions and Initial Thoughts

00:00:31
Holmesy
coaches have been preparing for Best 22 and which coaches have been swimming naked, as Xavier Ellis likes to say. we have a full panel on deck for view you today, which is amazing to see. And i'll start with Lou, perennial top 1K finisher, mate. How are you going?
00:00:47
Lew
Good, mate. And um good on Xavier Ellis for somehow getting attributed to that Warren Buffett quote. Now, that's some pretty good work right there. so no, I'm quite good, mate. Round four, ah the season's starting to cook up and we're starting to see, just outside of a fantasy perspective, some of the footy teams that are jostling for the top four, top eight. So, it's good to see.
00:01:12
Holmesy
Would your Port Boys be one of those footy teams jostling for top four, top eight?
00:01:17
Lew
Yeah, no, just a bit of smoke and mirrors at the moment. um Master coach Kenny is just keeping the boys back a little bit, getting primed just for the finals at the end of the year. You don't want to show your cards too early.
00:01:29
Lew
Boys, bit of um ah a bit of a Chris Scott masterclass, so he's taking a leaf out of his bilk.
00:01:35
Holmesy
was it a Was it this corresponding fixture last year, Lou, where Ken Hinckley gave the Hawthorne boys a bit of a send-off in Gather Round? Do you think they're going to yeah remember that one from last year?
00:01:45
Lew
Yeah, no they they there's every chance that they do. um I can't wait for next week, boys. I can see already the Hawks smashing Port Adelaide by about 10 goals. and And I'll be there on the hill. I'll have my arms

Team Rankings and Performance Reflections

00:02:01
Lew
outstretched. I'll be pretending to be in aeroplane. I'll be going, boo! I cannot wait. It might be his last game coaching Port Adelaide and it couldn't have come soon enough.
00:02:13
Holmesy
That is the ah never tear us apart spirit that we know and love from you, Lou. ah Fantastic work from you. And as always, back from Thailand, we've got two-time top 10 finisher and runner-up in 2019, John Harmy with us. Harmy, mate, how are you?
00:02:28
Jon Harmey
Good, homesy. Yep, now I'm restoring a bit of respectability into my team and almost under 21,000 now, so that's great news. But yeah, in the 1800s, which is better than loose, I'm heading in the right direction.
00:02:44
Holmesy
Very, very good. And Sam, can you just ah give us a quick ranking update for you?
00:02:51
Sam
Yeah, sure.
00:02:52
Lew
Thank
00:02:52
Sam
I am just a tick outside 3K at the moment.
00:02:56
Holmesy
Yep, beautiful. So as always, we've got Sam on the podcast, our first time inside of the top 3K for his career. Sam?
00:03:06
Sam
I don't have many awards next to my name in the fantasy classic space, but that's not quite true.
00:03:15
Holmesy
No, mate, you're going very well and I'm very interested to see how your season's shaping up because you are going quite well. Lou, why don't you are kick us off this week because I believe, unfortunately, you've got the best rank of us, but ah you didn't have the best week.
00:03:31
Lew
No, no. and And look, to be honest, not to be, it wasn't unexpected. I scored the 1791. I did ah did the double downgrade that I spoke about earlier in the week. um And I was probably just a little bit unfortunate in the end that I copped a couple of injuries. I think Nathan O'Driscoll got injured in that third quarter and um he was probably going to be the one that would just nudge me over that 1800. Yeah.
00:03:57
Lew
um with i think 69 might have been my lowest score from ranking, but it it brought me into, or rather it pushed me out to rank 399. I'm pretty happy about that. So yeah, happy days.
00:04:08
Jon Harmey
Yeah, you would be.
00:04:10
Holmesy
Can you just ah just for the listeners talk us through the the theory and the concept of you doing the the double downgrade last week?
00:04:17
Lew
Yeah, so, um you know, obviously in best 18, you've got four players that drop off. And I think when I was looking at my team, ah I could, you know, probably pick the four players that were going to drop off and I wasn't too far off in the end. So um for that reason, I thought maybe I'll i'll bank a bit of cash um and let my top end do the work for me. And um

Rookies' Impact and Strategy Insights

00:04:41
Lew
it's It's worked out okay. i've I've probably broken even in the end, but um what it has done, it it lets me launch this week. So um as we go into best 22, it might mean that I can get an extra rookie or a mid-pricer off the ground. And and perhaps that's 10, 15, 20 points a week that I can improve on um against the rest of the competition.
00:05:02
Jon Harmey
Double drank, great there Lou, so you obviously would have gone for the two best rookies in Marais and Roley Boss.
00:05:09
Lew
would have That would have been nice, wouldn't it? Yeah. sir i got I got a bit more clever than that, Harmi, actually. So I brought in Marais, obviously, off the minus 27 break even.
00:05:20
Lew
No worries.
00:05:21
Holmesy
Thank you.
00:05:21
Lew
That's ah easy money right there. And um've gone I've gone, looked at the break-evens, I've gone, okay, Riley Bice, yep, minus three, minus two, whatever it was. um yeah Might go 60, 65.
00:05:33
Lew
ah Ryan Marich, four break-even. you know Look, he's shown he can go 100. Maybe he's going to make a bit more money. I've got to spend a bit more on him. I'll go him first and I'll grab Bice on the downgrade um at the end of the week.
00:05:49
Lew
125 was just ridiculous. And oh my God, I've never death ridden a rookie so much in my life knowing that he was going to be my downgrade at the end of the week. so look, kudos to him. And I think it's about a minus 45 break even now. so um definitely jump on. But if you if you jumped on last week, oh if you could bottle up that feeling on a Saturday night and sell it, you'd make a lot of money, I think.
00:06:16
Holmesy
Yeah, Lou, you know how it's just one of those games where you were obviously death riding it, but i was I was going the other way because, spoiler alert, I did bring in Bice.
00:06:23
Lew
Yeah.
00:06:24
Holmesy
And there was a point late in that last quarter, he was on the opposite wing and he was cooked and he just wanted to get off. But on his way off, he he found his way to three plus sixes as he sort of just like got of got onto the other side of the field.
00:06:38
Holmesy
So he went from 105 to 125 really, really um we'll We'll get to mine in a bit, Kami, but why don't you give us your score and and rank
00:06:49
Jon Harmey
Yep, so my score was 1-8-1-0. Left a few points on the bench because I did bring in Marik and he was on the bench. And

Weekly Highlights and Player Picks

00:07:01
Jon Harmey
Sam Lawler, he killed it too, but he was on the bench for me. So anyway, my rank is currently 21,805. So...
00:07:10
Jon Harmey
Jeez, that's a bit gross, isn't it? It'd be nice to see that um picking up. But my team value is pretty good, 20.9 mil. So I think, you know, my team is actually pretty decent. So we'll see what happens now. We're um back to 22 scoring players.
00:07:25
Holmesy
Yeah, we were talking pre-pod about um how because of the best 18, the competition's a lot more bunched up than it that it typically would be outside of last year.
00:07:33
Sam
Thank you.
00:07:34
Holmesy
So, you know, at a 21K rank three or four years gone by, you might have found yourself 600, 700 points off the pack already, but that's only going to be 200, 300, and you're right in the hunt again. So I wouldn't be too upset. Even my sort of 9K rank, I don't think is horrendous at this point as long as the team value is there because I think coaches are going to get found out pretty quickly um once we get into the best 22 moving on from here.
00:08:00
Holmesy
Harmi, I had the 18-15, so just the five more than you. That saw my rank come up about 4K spots just outside 9K. So not too unhappy with that. It's a bit unlucky. Again, I had the Nathan O'Driscoll who, you know, that's 20 points left on the table there from that last quarter, which...
00:08:18
Holmesy
Would have been a nice little boost there to finish. But yeah, pretty happy. I've started pretty horrendously, but have slowly chipped away at it each week and and hoping I can put some of that team value on the field this week to to continue rising. Sam, you had our best score of the week. Where are you at?
00:08:33
Sam
I did, yeah. I scored eighteen thirty two which, as I said before, got me to just a tick outside the 3K mark. um I probably also left a few points on the field because i captained Rosie, who managed to put up, what was it, five points in the first quarter and nearly gave me a heart attack, but he thankfully thankfully recovered to something semi-respectable.
00:08:48
Jon Harmey
Yep.
00:09:00
Sam
um It did work both ways, though because I had Lawler and Bisonfield, so kind of got got lucky there.
00:09:07
Jon Harmey
yeah
00:09:08
Holmesy
is it Is it true you came into the group chat, asked us if Rosie was being tagged, we said yes, and then you just put your phone on airplane mode and and continued on with your weekend?
00:09:17
Sam
That's absolutely spot on, mate. Yeah, completely switched the phone off and just thought maybe me watching is not helping. And so I was actually quite pleasantly surprised to see him on, what was it, 60-something at three-quarter time.
00:09:33
Holmesy
Yeah, that was ah that was a tough game, um having those players and and just somehow watching the scores go nowhere, which I'm sure we'll get into.
00:09:40
Jon Harmey
Thank you.
00:09:40
Holmesy
Lou, why don't you give us your Stato pick and your Dossie pick for the week?
00:09:45
Lew
ah Yeah, so oh my Stato pick is Ryan Marich, who ironically was the guy that

Team Strategy and Player Trades

00:09:51
Lew
I chose over Riley Bice. But look, I was quite impressed with his game on the weekend. I wasn't sure what to expect. I don't tend to watch a lot of the Eagles games and...
00:10:02
Lew
I thought the kick-in roll looks nice and is is the ball's clearly going to be back there plenty. ah And a 73 was good to see. Obviously, it was a really slow last quarter, so that could have pushed 90. That was in a really tough match-up too, so bright red on the... um on the scale of hardness. So I think if this guy can keep on keeping on at that 75 to, you know, potentially 85 mark, if he, if he gets a nice share of those kick-ins, um, he could be a guy that sits at F6 or M8 for a little while yet, potentially even up until the buys. So, um, if he's making money during that period and scoring like that, ill think it's going to be a, it's going to be a great pick. So I'll, I'll, I'll give my state a pick of the week to him if, as long as he goes on with it. And, uh,
00:10:49
Lew
My dossier pick of the week is going to be Isaac Rankin. And it's, look, it's it's um probably a bit of a jumping off point for me just to say that, you know, this guy has been spoken about as top six almost religiously um since, you know, the pre-season, but certainly after round one. And um look, he's ah he's a really good player and he's he's only just spending basically his first season as a full-time midfielder and It's a guy who has come off multiple, multiple soft tissue injuries. We've already seen it a couple of times this year. So he's had calf tightness subbed out.
00:11:27
Lew
He's had some calf issues again, and he's hardly sort of taken the field in the fourth quarter. um Isaac Rankin, you know, he's massive trade target. I'd almost be going against him, I think.
00:11:38
Lew
This might be a guy who, yeah, he might be top six forward the first sort of third of the season, but might be one that could be an opportunity to jump off in the latter two thirds.
00:11:41
Sam
And I'm not from walking together.
00:11:52
Holmesy
Thanks, Luke. Just brought him in, mate. Appreciate that. It was my...
00:11:57
Lew
Well, oh no, sorry, but, you know, we've been talking about this Adelaide midfield for God knows how long. There's five or six midfielders that can run through there. James Peatling's in some wicked form. Jordan Dawson looks fantastic. Matt Crouch didn't play on the weekend, but he's not moving.
00:12:12
Lew
um Look, just want to flag it, and um he's a bit stiff to be my dossier pick of the week, but, you know, why don't we get spicy with it?
00:12:20
Holmesy
Yeah, especially because I know who else you have in your team, but I know Harmi's going to go there. So Harmi, who are your Stato and Dossie picks for the week?
00:12:27
Jon Harmey
Yeah, well, I'll tell you what, I'm going go from one of the most bizarre scoring games of the round, the highs and the lows, um JHF, ice baths, 125. He was just killing it everywhere.
00:12:47
Jon Harmey
Kicking goals, putting on a dominant display, best player on field potentially. And then my dossie pick from the same team, Kane Farrell, brought him in last round. So he's averaging about...
00:13:00
Jon Harmey
Well, ah about 60 for me for the year. So i' not exactly what I was hoping for when I thought I was going close to the top of the tree in the defensive line. so Kane Farrell, man, if he didn't have those kickings too, he probably, what would he have got, 20?
00:13:15
Jon Harmey
So he's not going very well.
00:13:15
Holmesy
Yeah, and he doesn't even step out of the square sometimes as well.
00:13:19
Holmesy
He is not good enough to
00:13:19
Jon Harmey
ah

Round Analysis and Rookie Influences

00:13:21
Holmesy
not be stepping out of the square for those kick-ins.
00:13:23
Jon Harmey
Oh, dear.
00:13:23
Holmesy
Sorry, I'm an owner as well, and he is gone.
00:13:24
Jon Harmey
It's a worry. It's a worry.
00:13:26
Lew
ah Did you see on the weekend Ryan Marritch, he's taken a kick in He's taken is is gone a hop, skip and a jump to the right, stepped out of the goal square and gone back in.
00:13:27
Holmesy
I...
00:13:36
Lew
He's done the hokey pokey out of the goal square just to get the play on kick.
00:13:41
Jon Harmey
You know what?
00:13:41
Sam
Yes, that was absolutely elite.
00:13:44
Jon Harmey
The the the so sad thing about Marik he's a mid-forward, right, isn't he? So he's not even going to get defensive status for us, which is his show.
00:13:54
Lew
Yeah, would have been handy this year, big time.
00:13:54
Holmesy
Yeah.
00:13:56
Jon Harmey
Yeah.
00:13:58
Holmesy
Sammy, why don't you give us your dossier Stato picks?
00:14:02
Sam
Yeah, sure. so yeah, my Stato Pick of the Week would be Lawler. I actually had considered trading him out um leading into this round, knowing that he was coming up against Brisbane, and I ah really didn't think he'd have a good game against Brisbane.
00:14:15
Jon Harmey
Thank you.
00:14:16
Sam
So popped a really nice score, and, you know, he's probably cemented his spot in my team for at least a couple weeks now. um Joel Frazier would be my dossie pick of the week.
00:14:28
Sam
I was, again, one that I was thinking about trading out last week, but thought, no, I can just put one more score together, maybe he just hit his break even. He was awful. um He was hard to watch because I did watch the Freo game.
00:14:41
Sam
And, yep, he's definitely going for me this week. It's just a question of whether I go up or down with him.
00:14:49
Holmesy
Yep, fair enough. Sammy, my Stato pick of the week, and i'm I'm probably doing this for both of us, Sam, Riley Bice. It's not very often that you have a stroke of luck where you bring in a rookie, they go this well, and all of a sudden you're a step ahead of the comp because you know that everyone's going to be jumping in to get him next week, um and you've got him for 100K less than everyone else.
00:15:12
Holmesy
He was everywhere against North, and and North are actually a relatively tough matchup for defenders as well on DFS, so... Look, he yeah he was awesome. I suppose the question is, is him being that good?
00:15:23
Holmesy
Is it going to have an effect on Matt Roberts? Matt Roberts you know it wasn't as piggish as as what he's been in the past.
00:15:26
Jon Harmey
Mm-hmm.
00:15:29
Holmesy
So that's that's that's a concern. But yeah, Riley Bice, he's going to be everyone's target this week. You can't not have him. And he is my Stato pick of the week. And my Dossie pick of the week, I'm just giving this to Simon Goodwin.
00:15:45
Holmesy
That Geelong game, what they have the most marks in AFL history, 150-odd marks, Zach

Best 22 Strategies and Team Evolution

00:15:51
Holmesy
Guthrie, 147, Tom Stewart, ton, Humphreys, ton. Every single player except Max Holmes, who was tagged within an inch of his life ah by Tom Sparrow.
00:16:01
Holmesy
How they didn't release that tag after halftime because they were getting belted and Geelong were just controlling the footy, I'll never understand. But yeah, look, Max Holmes, he might be a failed pick now because if he's going to be the number one tag target, then he's going to have these floor games, um which is going to have a a bit of an output and an effect on his average loop.
00:16:20
Lew
Yeah, I was watching after the game too, and they had an interview with Max Holmes, and they mentioned the tag, and and Holmes actually mentioned that he was talking to Tom Sparrow saying, mate, you're tagging me, and the rest of my side are getting about 10 marks each. what What the hell are you doing?
00:16:37
Lew
um So they were clearly seeing it on the field as well. So I don't think that's going to continue for the Ds.
00:16:45
Holmesy
No, so random. that The Ds are cooked. they're They're right up there with Port Adelaide. um They're right up there with Carlton in terms of you know who's going to be the first one to lose their coach. they're just They don't have a system.
00:16:58
Jon Harmey
no
00:16:59
Holmesy
Their players are aging. um It's just yeah you don't want much stocks in any of those teams at the moment, I wouldn't have thought. Lads, let's get into it to rate our trades. Lou, we already spoke about yours in terms of the double downgrade, but Harmi, what did you do with your trades this week? And talk us through a little bit about where your thinking was at of why you did those trades.
00:17:17
Jon Harmey
Yeah, um I sort of, well, I guess there are two kind of sideways trades, just trying to keep the cash generation going. So I traded Xavier Lindsay being out to Arais with that massive negative break even that Lou mentioned earlier. And then Finno Sullivan, I wasn't really loving what he was doing anyway. He only got 40 odd the week before, but then when he was out, used that opportunity to to bring in Ryan Maric. So who will go on field for me this week. So, yeah, but I'm not too sure where that sits me, but um would have made some money out of those too, so I'm feeling all right about it.
00:17:57
Holmesy
Now, Harmi, we've got loose thoughts, but Ryan Marrick, do you think it's too late?
00:18:03
Jon Harmey
Well, let's have al look. ah When I brought him in,
00:18:06
Lew
So he's priced at $57.000.
00:18:08
Jon Harmey
Yeah, when I brought him in last week, I thought he was a bit expensive, but um I could get there without much trouble from Finn O'Sullivan. So I thought he was a better option.

Cash Generation and Trade Considerations

00:18:21
Jon Harmey
Let's have a look. Yeah, and he was under 500. So he's 550,000. He was under 500 when I brought him in. So look, I think he still is underpriced for what he was, but I certainly feel better about it at 480,000 compared
00:18:40
Holmesy
Yeah.
00:18:40
Lew
So if we if we do think he can go at 77, there's still points.
00:18:41
Holmesy
its Yeah.
00:18:47
Lew
tricky. so it's um it's tricky
00:18:52
Jon Harmey
I don't know if I'd be looking at it, to be honest, Holmesy. If I didn't have him at 550, I reckon I'd probably be looking at a rookie.
00:18:58
Lew
Well, what did we say last week? It's probably one that you go down to isn't it? Rather than one that you jump up to. So, you know, if youre if you're struggling for spots on field, nod doesn't play this week. Could it be, you know, as simple as a nod down to a marriage and and a away you go sort of thing? Keep that cash generation moving. I'm not sure.
00:19:20
Holmesy
Yeah, it's, look, you you get 20 points from Marek and that's if he goes 77. And admittedly, that could be conservative. He might not end up going 80, you know, 83, which might be 26 points upside.
00:19:31
Holmesy
But, you know, surely you're going to get...
00:19:33
Lew
It could be 60. It's the Eagles.
00:19:34
Holmesy
the the Yeah, surely you're going to get, you know, 20 to 25 more easily from a Cleary or, you know, maybe a Gross or someone else that's a little bit cheaper with not ah as high a bar.
00:19:42
Jon Harmey
Yeah.
00:19:47
Holmesy
So that's where I'm sort of toying. But, you know, playing a Cleary on field is going to have you a hell of a lot more nervous than ah a Ryan Marrick. So definitely something to weigh up. Sam, what did you do with your trades? Were you a double downgrade as well?
00:20:00
Sam
Yeah, sort of, I guess. So I did Lindsay to Marais and Camp Reale to Bice. And I was also looking at Marich very closely.
00:20:12
Sam
I ended up going with Bice instead of him. ah can't even really put my... Oh, wait, no, that's why.
00:20:17
Jon Harmey
Thank you.
00:20:19
Sam
Because Holmesy messaged me saying Selby rated Bice higher than Marais. And I said, well, I can't go against the goat, can I? So appreciate that little bit of intel, Holmesy.
00:20:29
Sam
um I mean, weighing in on the conversation there with Marich, I'm of the view that it's not too late. um his His scoring's been a bit up and down between the 74, the 73, and then obviously the 100. He got eight marks in that game where he scored 100, but his number of disposals has actually

Ruckman Challenges and Strategic Solutions

00:20:51
Sam
been fairly consistent, ranging from 22 28.
00:20:54
Sam
So...
00:20:56
Sam
so Maybe his marks land somewhere in the middle and he gets four or five a game. Then I reckon he can push that 80 number. And he's taking 100% the kick-ins.
00:21:08
Sam
He's playing on 100% of the time.
00:21:08
Jon Harmey
Yeah. yep
00:21:11
Sam
And he's playing in a team where they're getting belted every week. That ball is spending a lot of time in the back line. A lot of behinds are being kicked on them. The only real flag I can see is obviously the Eagles' low total team score every week.
00:21:26
Sam
And that's something that might hurt you. But if he's getting the market share of that back line and of that team, then, geez, I think he's going to be pretty good. Yeah.
00:21:36
Lew
ah it It kind of appears like that's what's happening with the market share, doesn't it, Sam? I mean, since he's not been the sub in round one, which he scored 31 off 33% tog, So he's not gone below
00:21:53
Sam
Yeah.
00:21:53
Lew
um if that continues i think that is the confidence you need if you want to pay up for that
00:22:01
Sam
And on top of that, so the only other kick-in takers the Eagles have really had this year are Baker, Duggan and McGovern. McGovern is injured. Baker's now moved into the midfield and Duggan looks like a shadow of a player.
00:22:14
Sam
I mean, if he's not taking kick-ins this week when there's no McGovern, they're not trusting him with kick-ins, is he really going to suddenly pop back in and take 50% of them next week?
00:22:15
Jon Harmey
Mm-hmm.
00:22:26
Sam
I just think he's going to get a lot of ball in the back line
00:22:26
Lew
Yeah.
00:22:26
Holmesy
up
00:22:29
Sam
And I'm still very interested and and looking at it this week.
00:22:34
Holmesy
Yep. Fair enough. So would I be correct in saying that all three of you traded Lindsay and I'm the only Lindsay, Lindsay holder on the pod?
00:22:43
Sam
Yeah, you would, Hansi.
00:22:43
Lew
ah Yes, mate. And um just reading the injury report, they said that Lindsay trained over the weekend and may be fit to play on the weekend. So if he is available, it's calculated hold and it's probably going work out for you, I think.
00:23:01
Holmesy
Yeah, right. Interesting. Yeah. So I went Nev to Bice and then that got me SDK to Rankin. As you heard before, Lou's not a fan of Rankin, but I just needed to have him.
00:23:13
Holmesy
I thought that 70 was a blessing in disguise when he got subbed out, but maybe that's something they do with him moving forward, which is a concern, but um with that Geelong

Weekly Performance Summaries and Key Players

00:23:21
Holmesy
matchup and Gold Coast was a good matchup for midfielders as well. it was just unfortunately he got the calf knock.
00:23:27
Holmesy
That could have been a higher score as well. So happy to try and lock away that top six forward at a discounted price.
00:23:33
Sam
Holmesy, you said you only traded, you only held Lindsay because you had big issues to fix in your team. Isn't that right?
00:23:43
Holmesy
Yeah, well, nev Nev's a bigger issue. like He's got plantar fasciitis and he plays for Geelong. ah So, yeah. Shut up.
00:23:52
Sam
I'm only teasing, mate. I'm only teasing.
00:23:56
Holmesy
All right, boys. Before we get stuck into our hot topics, a quick update on the PodPod Challenge. Just a reminder that the PodPod has partnered with Supercoach Champion again in 2025. So the winner of the PodPod Challenge will receive a custom AFL Fantasy ring.
00:24:13
Holmesy
ah courtesy of the guys over at supercoachchampion.com. So head over there if you want to get a ah custom ring for one of your leagues or check out some of their merchandise. Currently, three coaches inside the top 100. So we've got Darryl's Dodgers sitting at 13. What do you have on the weekend? 17-78. So a bit of ah a lower score there.
00:24:33
Holmesy
Shuckers still ranked inside the top 100 at 56. So he's going pretty well as well. And then Waters Warriors, Sam's team ah sitting at 91. So let's see if we can get some more of the pod pod community into that top 100 and really challenging for those hats.
00:24:51
Holmesy
i mean Let's get into some hot topics now. The best 18 has been and gone.
00:24:55
Jon Harmey
Thank you.
00:24:57
Holmesy
We're about to move back into best 22 and we're about to see which coaches have been planning ahead and which coaches are going to be found wanting a little bit here. But what have you sort of learned from the best 18?
00:25:08
Holmesy
I know you said your team isn't actually in that bad a spot. I think we both have pretty good cash team value, but we're we're sitting a little bit outside the ranks at the moment. Have we learned anything or do you just think we're a bit unlucky? What can we take away?
00:25:23
Jon Harmey
I don't know what there is to learn. I'd probably have to go back through it in a bit more detail, mate. But um look, if I could have my time again, I'd probably have a bit less mid-price players and potentially a bit more guns and rookies. And I wouldn't be ah worrying about those really low-price players, like as in the low-scoring players. and you know You're all right to have it. Hold it through.
00:25:45
Jon Harmey
hold a few through aren't you so i think i said at the end of last pod that i recommended people start moving off those red dots um which was something that i was pretty keen to do the last couple of weeks make sure that i was rotating that bench so was carrying pretty close to a full squad. And I have been doing that. And i guess we'll see those that haven't.
00:26:07
Jon Harmey
I had look at some of those teams at the top, actually. And there's a few red dots and bizarre players on their bench. So we'll see how that goes long term.
00:26:16
Holmesy
Man, that the stat that I heard today actually, and it's fascinating, Lou, is there's some teams right now that are competing for a hat that would have started Tom DeConing at R1, Harry Boyd at R2, and then Archer Reid at R3, and then just played Archer Reid at all the way through until this round. And then now's the time to sort of upgrade to get to a Briggs and away you go. I mean, that's fascinating. we We never would have done that to start, but with all of the top dog rucks,
00:26:45
Holmesy
essentially failing there and let's call it what it is. They're they're failing at the moment. they need it They need to turn it around quickly. But as it stands right now, they're all priced well below where they started. do you Do you think that guns and rookies for this best 18 is just a strategy we need to take into next year?
00:27:03
Lew
I do. I thought trading the mid-prices in the best 18 was just about the best thing you could do. um As you always say, Holmesy, if they're scoring 60s and 70s, they're just in no man's land and rookies can pop that on any given day.
00:27:18
Lew
um None of us expected 125, a Davidson you know You can rattle off some of these rookies where they end up popping these scores, whereas you know you hang on to some of these types. They might have come good this week with a Hollands and a Sanders and and a Deconing and a Frazier, but you know you're probably better off just cutting them loose in a best 18 system for a rookie and going straight up to the top where the ceiling is actually going to make a difference for yeah
00:27:47
Holmesy
I suppose on that, Lou, and let's kind of just take this into our teams now. We don't we don't like to spend too long on our teams, but I think it's relevant this week. Now that we're moving back into best 22, how do you feel about your team and how it's structured now, now that there's not going to be any scores dropping off? Maybe give me how many rookies you're planning to have on field and and who those rookies are. Do you have any ones that you're a little bit sort of cautious on or is your structure pretty sound?
00:28:14
Lew
um Look, from my own standpoint, I'm feeling pretty good. So the rookies that I've got on field are Sam Davidson

Listener Questions and Strategic Advice

00:28:21
Lew
at F6, Levi Ashcroft at M8, Riley Bice at D6, and Jackson Pryor at D5. So I've got the four rookies.
00:28:32
Lew
um To this stage, they've all been punching out 60-plus more weeks than not. I paid peanuts on the dollar for them, so I'm quite comfortable with them doing what they need to do.
00:28:44
Jon Harmey
I'm currently looking exactly the same as Lou.
00:28:48
Holmesy
Sam, why don't you give us your rookie structure?
00:28:52
Sam
So I've got, are we counting Jackson Pryor? Presumably not.
00:28:56
Jon Harmey
Yes.
00:28:56
Holmesy
Yep.
00:28:57
Sam
Okay, so I've got Jackson Pryor, D5, Riley Bice, D6. I've got Ashcroft, M7, Lawler or Marais, M8, and then Davidson, F6.
00:29:11
Sam
So that gives me, what, five.
00:29:11
Jon Harmey
It's one more.
00:29:13
Lew
Fog.
00:29:13
Sam
Yeah, so I've got one extra, and I don't think, I'm probably only worried about the Lawler-Marias pick at M8 there.
00:29:13
Lew
Yeah.
00:29:23
Holmesy
Yeah, well, that's that's the one you want to avoid, right? So for coaches this week that are now looking to structure up, I think those are the ones you want to avoid. ah that you know We saw on the weekend, Warner had 42 and he saved that late. That could be a 20-odd. Any rookie that has the potential to be ah a 30 or a 40 is what's going to kill your weekend. So Max Hall has been good. He's had a couple of 80s, but on any given week,
00:29:48
Holmesy
he can drop a 30, which is fine in best 18. But for this week and moving forward, it's no good. So I suppose it's the four rookies, but you've got to make sure that they are the right rookies. And I might even have five. um I'm undecided yet.

Closing Thoughts and Upcoming Tips

00:30:01
Holmesy
But yeah, you've got to make sure that they're the right rookies and it's not one of these ones, Lou, that but can drop a 40. What do you think?
00:30:07
Lew
Well, so if you've got four or five rookies and maybe maybe you're not confident on um necessarily fielding a Marais or a Lawler week to week and you've you've got a Campo sitting there, you know, as a red dot or a hasty.
00:30:21
Lew
And we've we've been in the best 18. We've been saying, look, while it's best 18, get rid of these guys, get rid of these guys. If you've still got them there sitting in your side, ah they've now better off for a week or two actually becoming a loop so you can make sure that you're getting sort of the best bite of the cherry each week.
00:30:42
Holmesy
Yeah, I suppose. I mean, Campo's no good for a loop, right? Carlton keep having these Thursday night games. I haven't actually looked at the fixture ahead, but hey ben he's been no good.
00:30:52
Holmesy
I mean, what do we do? Let's look at a Connor Stone loop, for example. Like, what are we going to do with him?
00:30:55
Lew
The best loop in the game. The best loop in the game. um If this guy is dropped and isn't the sub and he's already played four games, he's going to become a defender. He's already a forward.
00:31:08
Lew
he can be interchanged from forward to defense for God knows how long, as long as he's not playing it as, as almost the ultimate loop. So at F six there and and D five, D six and, and what have you. So i think stone, given that he plays for GWS, they're often playing on that sort of Sunday afternoon um or later on in the Saturday could be so valuable for us. And he's one that I'm probably got penciled in. If he gets dropped, it just stays in my side.
00:31:39
Holmesy
Yep. Yeah, no, I don't hate that idea. um I mean, the 28 on the weekend, if he has another one of those anytime soon, then his cash is going to start going backwards. So you probably do hope that he gets dropped and and you can use him as a loop. But Lou, talk us through your trades this week. not You don't have to talk about your specific trades, but what is your philosophy and what are you trying to achieve with this with this sort of week? Because it's a little bit too early for upgrade season. You're not going to be able to go ah a rookie and a rookie to ah a premium.
00:32:07
Holmesy
But, you know, are you trying to fix up the the last of the mid prices and bank a bit of cash? What are you thinking?
00:32:14
Lew
Yeah, well, that's what we sort of focused on last week is the direction that you want to take is really set up behind that best 18 system. So um that's why I think there's going to be a lot of coaches in a lot of different boats, even on this podcast. You know, some of us double downgraded, some of us went the... yeah The premium, so its it's going to be so team dependent, but I think right now the the biggest thing for me is is keeping that bench ticking along nicely. So, um you know, we're starting to collect some red dots and like Harmi mentioned, even even the top couple of hundred coaches have got some, you know, eyebrow raising players there.
00:32:52
Lew
um I think if you can keep that moving along and keep that hygiene well, then it's going to pay dividends in the end on field. So um it's quite generic advice, but you know it's you know going into best 22, there's so many directions each coach can take that I'd hate to narrow in the focus on one you know specific thing because it it is so team dependent this week.
00:33:17
Holmesy
Harmi, I suppose I can put your team in in my team's category where we've got some decent cash at the moment, but we're not really competing for a ranking just yet. Is it time for us to start attacking and to get some points on field? Or do you think we need to play the game for a little bit longer um and just be smart and and conservative and and build cash?
00:33:36
Jon Harmey
Yeah, look, i can't I don't think we can lose sight of cash generation and making sure we get those um those rookies with a decent level of upside and those mid-prices that are looking to pop. So, yeah, I think that should be our primary focus rather than the people at the top end of the price bracket. But, um yeah, I guess guess we'll see and we'll talk through some targets in a little bit.
00:34:03
Holmesy
Sam, just before we move on, what are you planning to do with your trades this week now that you've done the double downgrade and and banked a bit? Are you looking to go bang and and sort of attack towards that top 1K this week or what are you thinking?
00:34:15
Sam
Yes, I've banked a little bit, but not too much. I've got 180 in the bank. um Yeah, I'm not sure what I'm doing my trade. Certainly, Joel Frazier is going, that's for sure.
00:34:23
Jon Harmey
Yep. ye
00:34:24
Sam
And then, yeah, I mean, I'm looking at one of two options. I'm really interested in one of the what I would call the big three underpriced premium mids, which I would suggest Brayshaw, Walsh, Theron, maybe even throw Neil into that category at the moment to bolster my midfield stocks.
00:34:41
Sam
um But then that leaves me with a tricky situation on the end where I've really don't have much money to trade in a Rook. You know, I'd like Caden Cleary or maybe Gross if they get named again, but they do seem to be maybe the 23rd, 24th best player in their teams if a couple come back.
00:34:52
Holmesy
Thank
00:34:56
Lew
Thank you.
00:35:00
Sam
So, look, I'm weighing it up. um I might go Frazier down to Marich and then find a slightly more expensive Rook that I like the look of. um Yeah, thinking thinking through a few options, that's for sure. Louie?
00:35:14
Lew
Yeah, Sam, so you mentioned obviously you've got um Joel Frazier there. He's pretty popularly owned, so 22% of the comp. Do you want just walk us through why why he why he's a must trade for you?
00:35:29
Sam
Yeah, fair enough. um am i I'm probably the only one on the pod, I think, that's got him at the moment. um So it's two things for me, Louis. Number one, obviously, the score on the weekend, 44, lost cash. He'll now have that in his system. He's essentially a mid-pricer.
00:35:46
Sam
who we were hoping to generate cash, and he did a bit of that, but that 44 brings his cash generation to an end. And then the second aspect is I think the role's changed a little bit, maybe not too much, but he certainly seems to be hanging around a lot more on the outside and he's attending less centre bounces than he did in those first couple of rounds. So, yeah, two good reasons, I think, for me to to to trade him out.
00:36:10
Lew
Yep, that makes total sense.
00:36:13
Holmesy
All right, Sam, you kind of segued into it. So let's let's talk about these, Harmi. So you've got some targets here um that the listeners should should be looking at. we're We're still trying to hunt value. So I assume you're highlighting these players because you think they've they've got value and and can go close enough to the top of the line. So talk us through these targets that you've got down for us.
00:36:35
Jon Harmey
Yeah, yeah, look, so um as I mentioned, i think you've got to have a bit of a view of those who are going to generate cash. And I guess ah the ones that I'm looking at there would be Riley Biles. I mean, no-brainer.
00:36:49
Jon Harmey
He was best on ground. He was just everywhere. He had a rip in games. No way they can drop him. So he's still coming in at 387,000. So a good price, actually, um and defender there. So I think that that one makes sense to everybody. Look, um Caden Cleary, he's a player who i actually quite like.
00:37:12
Jon Harmey
You know, plays in the midfield in the VFL and tears it up in the VFL. But... Plays in the forward line. he's got a He's going to have a decent few weeks with Papley out injured and um he's a good good little player anyway.
00:37:26
Jon Harmey
um I think that at $279,000 he's someone I wouldn't um have any hesitation in bringing in. So from there, I mean, they're the two sort of ah rookie price players that I think that everyone should be having a look at.
00:37:40
Jon Harmey
and Then I'm starting to look, we're getting to the period of the year where you're getting some of these premiums that have dropped in price. So I'm just highlighting, well, I'll highlight three and then I'll throw in some more. But some that we thought would be um you know top eight mids at the start of the season. So Andy Brayshaw, he's dropped 65,000 so far this season.
00:38:10
Jon Harmey
And Caleb Sorong, who's dropped 80,000 at the moment, he's priced at 987,000 now. The thing about these two that I really like, ah I mentioned Brayshaw on the pod last week, but the the reason I really like it is the run coming up. So Frio has Richmond, Melbourne, Adelaide, St.
00:38:30
Jon Harmey
Kilda, and then into Collingwood and GWS. So, I mean, they could have a really good run here for the next month or so. So keen on those guys. um Somebody that everybody should be keeping an eye on, Nick Dacos.
00:38:46
Jon Harmey
I think um Stevie Fizz said on one of our earlier um pods in the season that he thought he was going to be the number one averaging player in the game. Now, look, he bloody hasn't done that so far, but plays against the Swans this week, so he probably gets that James Jordan tag, but I'm thinking about that.
00:39:04
Jon Harmey
potentially even bringing him in now um just to get get um a rookie and that top-of-the-line player um while they're at a good price. So outside of that, I mean, you've still got Lockie Neal down $100,000 on his starting price and Brisbane have a ripping run coming up too. Then you've got, tom I don't mind, Briggs with some of these rucks failing and I'm not sure if North have been completely truthful with what's going on with Cherry there. so But yeah, Briggs, he's coming in at $782,000. Scored only short of 96 against the West Coast, but still he's dropped $156,000. And at the start of the year, he was only coming in priced at about $90,000 anyway. So he's definitely a good price and looking appealing.
00:39:50
Holmesy
that's ah That's a good discussion point, Harmi. I agree. All those three are are good targets to look at. Brayshaw, you're probably looking at because you believe he's going to be a top eight mid from here on out and you're getting him at the discount that ah we thought we were going to get him to start the season.
00:40:06
Holmesy
Sarong, I'm definitely looking at, but he's always the one that's the the tag target at Frio. So just keep an eye on him. And Lockie Neal, So cheap because of that tagged game. However, they do have a good run, but you'd think he's got a windhager tag coming up at some point soon, and and Windy always tags him to a 50, 60-odd score. So you' not you're not picking Lockie Neal because you think he's going to be a top-eight mid. You're thinking that you can get a good run out of him where he goes 110, maybe up until his bye. So just if you're going to do that, make sure you have a look at the run.
00:40:37
Holmesy
But Briggs is the one I want to talk about because... Most teams in the comp have a failed Ruckman at the moment, whether it's us that have a Max Gorn, who's not hitting the heights that we've seen before.
00:40:49
Holmesy
Harmi mentioned that, you know, 50% of the comp has a Tristan Cherry, who clearly isn't right at the moment.
00:40:53
Jon Harmey
Thank you.
00:40:54
Holmesy
He's not running and jumping. Um... Tim English got there on the weekend in the last quarter, but before that, before Jackson went down, he wasn't scoring that well. Darcy Cameron's averaging quite well, but he's a little bit up and down too. So, Lou, with pit net potentially on the horizon, is Briggs someone that we have to look at over the next couple of weeks if if our Ruckman debt kit don't keep going the way that they're going or a pit net comes in?
00:41:25
Holmesy
We lost Lou. Sam, what do you think about Briggs?
00:41:28
Sam
Yeah, I was so pretty keen on him at the start of the year. um But then obviously fixtures having the round two bye made him not pickable essentially. um Obviously had a really strong finish to the back end of last year.
00:41:43
Sam
um Lockie Keefe played in the first game he came back. Now Keefe is out and Riccardi is back in the side. He's clearly going to get. the lion ball share of the, of the ruck contests.
00:41:54
Sam
um Yeah. Look at that price. I feel very good about him and he's actually an option that I'm considering. um If I decide not to do a rookie fix up, I could go gone to Briggs and use that money on Frazier's head instead instead.
00:42:00
Lew
Thank
00:42:08
Sam
So definitely thinking about it. um And I think it could be an option for some coaches. Look, depending on the wording around Jerry as well, I might be considering that if I was a cherry owner, Louie,
00:42:21
Lew
Yeah, sorry, the the net might have just dropped out there. i don't mind generating a bit of cash from a Kieran Briggs, but what are we expecting Kieran Briggs to actually average? So, Sam, if you're going to bring him into your side, um we know what he did last year towards the back end. This year, he's gone 86. He's gone 96 against the Traffic Cones and the Eagles.
00:42:44
Lew
um If you're bringing in Clear and Briggs, what what are you what are you wanting as an average and and what is the plan from there? I assume it's to to parachute back up to some of these big goals.
00:42:56
Sam
Yeah, i mean, that would be ideal. Look, it's it's an extra trade, isn't it? Because I know we're not going to be holding Briggs to the end of the year. So post-buy last year, he went just a tick under 100, so 99. I mean, if he could pump that out, then I'd be...
00:43:14
Sam
very, very interested. And I don't see much that's changed structurally within that team to suggest he couldn't do that. um Like I said, he only had 75% of the ruck contests when Keefe was still in, in round three.
00:43:30
Sam
That jumped to 82 last round, and that's more consistent with what he had last year around that 80 mark. So... and Yeah, it's a tough one. The extra trade makes it tricky, but Gorn is a real headache at the moment. Sherry's a real headache at the moment. And I think we're going to โ€“ maybe Gorn, you don't think he's going to be R1 or R2. Sherry could bounce back. So, look, it's a tough one. I don't have all the answers, that's for sure. But, look, I think Briggs can go somewhere between 95% and 100%.
00:44:01
Lew
that That's where it probably gets tricky for me is using these trades. So, you know, if we say ah trade is worth maybe roughly 100K, you're making what? 200K, getting him in, and then you're moving him on. Of course, you're generating that cash, but I'm not sold that and Briggs is necessarily the guy to to jump on, especially with how quickly GWS want to move the ball. I don't think...
00:44:24
Lew
um giving it to Briggs is necessarily going to be advantageous to how they want to play. And it's also, you know, Tom DeConing, is that going to be another two trades, potentially later down the line with a pitonet?
00:44:34
Jon Harmey
Thank you.
00:44:36
Lew
um and And also Sherry coming down in price. So is it as simple as actually just going Gorn to Sherry um in a couple of weeks' time and just using the one trade and and sort of happy days there?
00:44:49
Lew
Ideally, you probably, um i think North have the round 12 bias and maybe that's not perfect. But um yeah, I'm just questioning this ruck line play with Briggs. I like it if the cash is there, but I think there's a bit more to unpack there.
00:45:06
Sam
Yeah, absolutely. I think um the other thing to bear in mind with Briggs, so he's next to a St Kilda in Adelaide, so he's got Marshall and Riley O'Brien coming out. I can't see him smashing either of those ruck battles. So, yeah, look, maybe you've got a couple more weeks to have a look even. um Yeah, du it's a tricky one, that's for sure. But, you know, you'd be hurting if you're a Gorn or Sherry owner, which I think, what, about 80% of the competition must have one of those.
00:45:35
Holmesy
Yeah, that's I think that's the thing that's kind of, as bad as it sounds, making me feel a little bit better about Gorn at the moment. He's a failed pick, but you know it's not like Cherry shooting the lights out.
00:45:46
Holmesy
Marshall was, but he had the 75 on the weekend, so that that kind of brings him back to earth a bit as well. Yeah. Gorn owners, you know, it's probably going to be a tough watch against Essendon on Saturday night.
00:45:56
Holmesy
We know the Bombers will probably just chip it around to avoid going long down the line to Gorn and May. But hopefully Gorn gets up against f Frio and he's got a few softer matchups after that.
00:46:08
Holmesy
And and hopefully Cherry can can can get his hamstring right and and turn that around as well. But boys, let's ah let's get into...
00:46:14
Lew
of very tough I reckon we've been tough on Max Gorn here.
00:46:16
Holmesy
ye
00:46:19
Lew
127 in round one, most of them had the captain. 63 against Sherry, the best ruckman in the comp. 84 against Witz, which nobody expected him to score that high. And 95 up against the pretty much being triple teamed against Geelong that came with a plan. So Essendon, there might be a little bit more... um ah hurt, but then it opens right up. And i'll i'll you know sometimes you look at market um market share because you know sometimes the scores don't often reflect what they're actually doing. I think Gorm is up at about 7.8%. So it might be more of a Melbourne thing than what it is a Gorm thing. So fingers crossed.
00:46:58
Lew
The Ds can turn it around, and if that's the case, Gorn's going to be a massive part of that.
00:46:59
Holmesy
Thank you.
00:47:03
Lew
um Look, I paid 1.1 mil for him, and it just feels like a sunk cost if I trade him now when he's got Frio, Richmond, Eagles, Hawks, um and the Saints. So, you know, I don't know. That's just my thoughts on it.
00:47:18
Holmesy
ye Yep, yep. Fair enough, Lou. But yeah, it'll be a concern if he comes up against Frio, which is going to be an underdone Darcy. If he doesn't go well, then then we are in a bit of strife.
00:47:29
Holmesy
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00:47:52
Holmesy
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00:48:03
Holmesy
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00:48:24
Jon Harmey
you
00:48:25
Holmesy
Let's get into it. a Friend of the show, Bales, has this first one. And i'm going to go to you, Sam, because I know you've been a lover of this guy over the years. Thoughts on Tim Taranto. Tough run to start the year, but has good upcoming fixtures and is priced just over 90. What do you think?
00:48:40
Sam
Yeah, agree with the tough run to start the year. So he had, what, Carlton, Port, Saints, and actually managed to pop a score against Brisbane, which I was surprised about. So his next few are Fremantle, Gold Coast and Melbourne.
00:48:54
Sam
um I think those teams have pretty good midfields. Now, obviously, Melbourne are performing pretty poorly. um His marks are down quite a lot. So three and a half marks last year to just one mark this year.
00:49:09
Sam
And perhaps that's indicative of the Uze change in game style, way down on possessions as well, and much higher handball to kick ratio this year.
00:49:22
Sam
I'd like to see it a couple more times. So I think you can get, maybe you missed the boat or maybe you time it perfectly because from now on nine onwards, he's got West Coast, North Essendon. I get more interested there.
00:49:34
Sam
I haven't seen it enough, so I wouldn't be going there just yet.
00:49:38
Lew
Yeah, i'm um I'm pretty bullish. So I'll look at Taranto's fixture here and he's got Gold Coast, West Coast, North Melbourne and Geelong.
00:49:50
Lew
And what do they all have in common before the end of the year? There actually is double ups and they're all bright green um besides the North one. But we'll see how that goes towards the end of the year. So he's got eight games of football where he's got a massive avenue to score here. And um I think the Tigers, the young Tigers are going to get tired as the season goes on and they're going to rely more and more on a Taranto.
00:50:17
Lew
taranto um and potentially he's going to take advantage of that. Parentally, he's sort of a 7% to 7.5% market share guy, and so far, besides the black hole against Port in round two, they've gone at about sort of 14.50, not too far off, which is, you know, that's that's pushing 105 plus um quite comfortably. So if he can turn it around with that fixture at 896k, buying it to Tim Turan, so could be an absolute bargain.
00:50:49
Holmesy
There you go, Bales. And we'll just keep a tally as well. We'll see how many podcasts you are asked this on over the week.
00:50:53
Sam
Hehehehe.
00:50:55
Holmesy
My over and under line is going to be five and a half. So we'll see how we go there. Harmi, this one's from Hawker. So he wants to trade Frazier and Farrell. He's trading in bias, but he wants to know whether he goes Stewart, so he saves a bit of money for next week's upgrade, or whether he just goes straight to the top and gets in a Harry Sheasel. So we didn't talk about Sheasel.
00:51:17
Holmesy
Still had the same midfield role, but wasn't resting forward. He was resting in defense, priced at 112. Is there any interest you in there in a Harry Sheasel, or do you think at this time the year you go to Stewart?
00:51:31
Jon Harmey
Just give me one sec.
00:51:34
Jon Harmey
Well, I don't mind his trade outs, it that way. Frazier, he's gone. If I had him, I'd be getting rid of him. His role is all over the place and he scored 44 in the weekend from a full game. So,
00:51:48
Jon Harmey
And Farrell, yeah, oh well, I'm an owner and I'm not really loving what I'm seeing. Bice, awesome. Get him in. So, look, if it were me, I would be targeting Tom Stewart, even though he didn't look 100%. Guy scored 106 or 108. Where's that?
00:52:03
Jon Harmey
Yeah, he scored 108. And same with the uncontested marks, just playing his normal Tom Stewart game. So, look, that's probably where I'd be going. Let's just have a look North, though. They're playing against the Suns.
00:52:16
Jon Harmey
Hmm, don't reckon he gets a run with there. Carlton, so should really get Hewitt, but who knows. And you've got Port, Will and Drew probably. So, yeah, maybe he's getting a bit of pressure. I think they moved into the back flank to get him involved a bit more because he wasn't going that well in the midfield. So, yeah, I think there's potential that Sheezer still calms down a bit and I think that Tom Stewart's at a nice price point. So I'd probably be going that way.
00:52:48
Lew
Yeah, I was going to say the exact same thing, Harmi. What are we paying for with Harry Sheasel at 112 exactly? Because he was a midfielder at the start of the year, or sorry, rather he was a forward going into the midfield at the start of the year, turned into a midfielder. He's not touching the ball. He's gone back to halfback to find more touches and he's... um He's starting to cop it a bit in the media too because he's not getting the score involvement or the inside 50s. So ah think player of Harry Sheasel's skill um might be wasted in the back half at North um contextually here. So I'm approaching with caution. I think 112 is too much to pay for Harry Sheasel because I'm not sure what I'm buying for.
00:53:32
Lew
um of what I'm actually buying there. On the flip side, Tom Stewart plays the most games from now until the mid-season buys of any other player um outside of sort of GWS and Essendon.
00:53:41
Holmesy
to I mean, that's a big call, lo
00:53:42
Lew
So... i
00:53:44
Holmesy
Big call plan for Geelong.
00:53:45
Lew
Well, yeah, look, of course he could.
00:53:45
Holmesy
How many um many rests in there?
00:53:47
Lew
Yeah, maybe, maybe, maybe.
00:53:47
Jon Harmey
Hmm.
00:53:47
Holmesy
um many injuries?
00:53:48
Lew
But but if you if you want to look at a player to target to suit your mid-season buys and players from in Geelong and and then probably Essendon as well, given that they've come off the round four buy are probably massive targets.
00:54:05
Holmesy
All right, Lou, I'm going to stay with you here. The floor is yours. The question's from Freekick Liam. It's a Farrell question, but just quickly talk us through what the hell is going on at Port Adelaide. Do we need to abort our premiums for Port Adelaide? You know, Rosie's down, Farrell's down, JHF is up and down.
00:54:23
Holmesy
What do we think? Just the floor's yours.
00:54:26
Lew
Yeah, so I think um you're probably not trading a Rosie a Jason Horn Francis yet. ah thought I think you're persisting with them. They're young leaders at the footy club and they're going to be a big reason, a big part, play a big role in Port Adelaide improving this year.
00:54:43
Lew
um But Farrell, he's an interesting one. um I think there was a lot of, there was certainly a lot of question marks about who takes that Houston role. ironically i was probably the one saying no one's going to take it it's going to be spread out amongst about five players and um i i ended up betting on farrell and i was probably right to begin with that it's actually been spread out amongst the number of players and it's changing week to week here and um Yeah, I think given the context of Port Adelaide's season, I'm not sure they know what they're doing. I think the players are seriously confused and and it's reflecting in not only results, but the fantasy scoring as well. So um ah think Farrell's a trade. And what concerns me about Kane Farrell is he just goes missing for 15 minutes at a time. he's got a He's got a terrible bench rotation as well, where he's sort of on the field for the first six minutes when the game's hot, hot, hot, and then goes off.
00:55:41
Lew
when it starts to cool down and um and then gets a little bit of pill late. But also the positioning through the middle of the ground is all off. I think Port want to go central, but they're not able to bite the kickoff and it just ends up in a turnover and back it goes. So, look, personally, ah think Port Adelaide, outside of probably a Rosie and a Horn Francis and a Butters, just because they are...
00:56:07
Lew
um sort of getting by on the fumes of skill at the moment and just being good players outside of that. I don't think I'd be touching Port Adelaide players and it's probably um leaking in for me towards Melbourne players at the moment as well. how do you predict what's going on there?
00:56:25
Holmesy
Beautiful. ah Sammy, this one's for you from Jack Neal. Thoughts on Luke Ryan or Jordan Clark? a couple of nice matchups coming up in the next few weeks.
00:56:35
Sam
Yeah, might to I might throw this one back to you, Holmesy, because I was watching the Ferro game and i thought I thought it looked like to me Ryan was spending a bit of time kind of on the wing or further up the ground than he normally is. Did you see bit of that game as well?
00:56:49
Holmesy
Unfortunately, i was working, Sam, so I saw it a little bit, but yeah.
00:56:53
Sam
Yeah. it was Yeah, it was a bit strange for me. So, like, I think in that game, Clark did pretty well. Chapman scored really high. Luke Ryan seemed to be a bit further up the ground rather than his usual kind of deep,
00:57:05
Sam
um switch position he definitely flicked back there over the course of the game but um yeah definitely noticed him on the wing a handful of times uh yeah look ah jordan clark le brion definitely options with nice matchups coming up i haven't necessarily seen anything from either of them um that makes me want to jump at them i wasn't you know super keen or or hot on either of them in the pre-season um Yeah, look, if you if you like the match-ups, I'd be going i'd be looking at Jordan Clark probably more closely than Luke Ryan. I think he's got the upside. um
00:57:43
Sam
But I think we've got other other cheaper options that you know ah represent better value. I think guys like Tom Stewart, as we've talked to on the podcast,
00:57:53
Holmesy
Yeah, I think there's a pretty stark contrast in if you look at Ryan and Clark post-buy from last year up until now. Freo definitely changed the way that they want to play the game where they don't possess the ball as much in the back half. They still do on occasions when they're when they resort back to it, but they want a a lot more run and gun, handball, get it forward. So um i don't think Ryan and and Clark are going to be the premiums that we need them to be long-term. Yes, they might have some good games over the next couple of weeks against Richmond and Melbourne, but just remember that players that you're trading in now, you're going to need to keep until the buys.
00:58:28
Holmesy
um And we've seen them both be up and down. So personally, not for myself, but if I had to go either of them, I think I would go Luke Ryan just because we've seen that ceiling before. And and he's a, definite pig on his day.
00:58:40
Holmesy
Harmi, this one's from you. I want a Stato tick of approval here. We're going old school from Bontsville Wizard. Hey, lads, great work. Thought about trading Frazier to Bice and then Nod to Brayshaw. What do you think about that?
00:58:54
Jon Harmey
Thinking something very similar myself. Bondsfield Wizard. So good idea, mate. Fraser to Bice. Tick that one off. Easy. Nod to Brayshaw. Well, we haven't heard anything on Nod, have we? And I like Brayshaw. So, yep, no.
00:59:09
Jon Harmey
Tick that one off.
00:59:11
Holmesy
Beautiful. um Louis, last one from Matthew Sterling. G'day, lads. Love the show. Thanks, Matt. How would you rank Walsh, Sarong, and Tom Green as trading targets this week? So Walsh, Sarong, and Tom Green.
00:59:27
Lew
I'd put Tom Green first and foremost. I think had a bit of an interrupted pre-season just before round one. We were all picking him. If he didn't have the opening round, I think he'd be in all of our sides.
00:59:42
Lew
Look, he's been okay to start the year. Like i said, he he didn't have the greatest run-up before round one. We didn't expect him to play, and he's just put up ah probably, think it's his highest score for the season with 36 touches, two goals, and and looked every bit of Tom Green.
01:00:00
Lew
So, Rong is interesting. He looks fantastic and and he can score in massive bursts, but he is ah probably the number one a number one tag target at Freo now.
01:00:10
Lew
You could say the same for Tom Green, but he's just got enough talent around him that I think um i' give I'm going to give him the edge. Like I said last week, Sam Walsh just needs to put runs on the board.
01:00:22
Lew
I'm not convinced that this guy 110 every single week.
01:00:23
Holmesy
Thank you.
01:00:27
Lew
It seems to me that, you know, obviously he's been a bit injury prone lately, but he puts up a big score and then and then puts up, you know, maybe something in the 70s, 80s. So ah just need to see a bit more consistency from Sam Walsh because he's he's not coming in cheap. You know, he's 1.004. There's a couple of guys underneath him.
01:00:47
Lew
um that I think I'd look at him first.
01:00:49
Jon Harmey
Yeah, they're all around the same price point though, aren't they? Look, the thing is with um Sarong and Green, they bicycl so they're both got about 38 possessions on the weekend, so handball happy and stuff that they need all those possessions to get near 120.
01:00:57
Holmesy
Thank you.
01:01:06
Jon Harmey
Whereas, you know, your Brayshaws and your Walshes, they sort of have a bit more of a well-rounded game where they get marks and tackles too. So, yeah, yeah I don't know.
01:01:15
Lew
it's it's true It's tricky, though, because these guys, Sirong Tom Green, they've got so many runs on the board.
01:01:16
Jon Harmey
I'm not completely sold.
01:01:21
Lew
And I'll sort of look at it the way when they do get marks, that might be a 160 rather than, you know, oh they're only going 115 with 35 touches. Oh, hang on.
01:01:32
Lew
You know, six, seven, eight marks in a game, and that's a 160. So...
01:01:38
Jon Harmey
wait um The other thing is though Sam Walsh has got the West Coast Eagles this week, Holmesy. In for a big one? do reckon?
01:01:44
Holmesy
Nah, Cher is the one going 150. Thoughts and prayers, please.
01:01:50
Lew
who Is it isn't it that classic case of just traffic cones? All go. so Buddy up and down the ground, no one's passing, get to the goals, all score well, but no one scores phenomenally.
01:02:03
Jon Harmey
Lockie Whitfield went out right on the weekend.
01:02:03
Holmesy
It's going to, I'll tell you what, it's going to be a, yeah, far out.
01:02:05
Sam
was going to say...
01:02:07
Lew
That's a different breed though.
01:02:10
Holmesy
Is he going to get tagged soon? Is anyone going to go near him? Him and Zorko?
01:02:15
Lew
I reckon you're tagging Callaghan before you're tagging Whitfield.
01:02:21
Holmesy
I don't know, man. He just cuts them up.
01:02:22
Sam
Mate, you try running around with Whitfield for 100 minutes or whatever it is.
01:02:26
Jon Harmey
Yep. Yep.
01:02:27
Sam
so It'd be impossible.
01:02:29
Holmesy
Sam, I couldn't even run around with you for 100 minutes and you're not fit.
01:02:33
Jon Harmey
see
01:02:35
Holmesy
So, all right, lads, that's over now. That's going to wrap us up. But before we do it, Lou, as the number one coach on the pod, um something I want to just start as we go throughout. So the number one coach on the pod is just going to give a little bit of ah words of wisdom for the listeners as they head into this upcoming round offoage ah of fantasy footy. So what do you have for the the listeners?
01:02:58
Lew
Oh, thanks for throwing me under the bus there, mate. Off the top, look, I'll i'll just say um best 22, it's going to be a different game over the next couple of weeks. And you might not get the scores that perhaps you were waiting for are wanting for, but um you can still make moves to improve your side in the long run. So it might not come to fruition immediately, but...
01:03:25
Lew
Keep pegging away at your side. um Keep improving your rookies, making that cash generation and make calculated trades up to your premiums and and you're you're going to go okay. So, yeah, it's... Thanks for that, Holmes.
01:03:40
Sam
Yeah.
01:03:41
Holmesy
That's right. you'll be ah You'll be the top-ranked coach on the podcast next week as well, Lou, so I'll give you a bit of time to to prepare that one for next week. But that'll wrap us up. As always, make sure you're following us on Twitter at PodPodAFL. Make sure you are subscribed to us on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to your content.
01:04:00
Holmesy
Good luck this week. Moving into best 22. Make sure the squad's nice and strong. I firmly believe there's going to be some serious ranking shifts over the next couple of weeks. So trade well, go well, and we will be back here next week.
01:04:13
Holmesy
Bye.