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Harmey’s Apology | 8 Practice Match Takeaways | Holmesy’s Team Reveal!! #PODPOD image

Harmey’s Apology | 8 Practice Match Takeaways | Holmesy’s Team Reveal!! #PODPOD

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Match simulations are over, the official practice games are beginning and the AFL Fantasy season is almost here!! After a week off, the boys are back with a bang!

Join Holmesy, Harmey, Lewy and Sam for a podcast debut as they discuss all the hot topics, takeaways from the practice matches and Holmsey’s official team reveal. The PODPOD is poised for a big year and this episode is not one to be missed!

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Transcript

Introduction and Guest Lineup

00:00:00
Jon Harmey
Thank you.
00:00:18
Holmesy
G'day and welcome to the Pod Pod. It's Holmesy here talking all things AFL Fantasy Classic for you on this Monday, 24th of February. We have a full panel on deck today, minus Dossie, and we do have a ah special guest that ah we are introducing to the podcast.
00:00:34
Holmesy
But before we do that, he's back on the show this week. Louis, perennial top 1000 finisher, still without his webcam, but that's all right. Lurking in the dark, mate. How are you? Good to see you again.
00:00:45
Lew
Yeah, I'm in the dark watching all these preseason games, mate. I haven't um and left the lounge room in the last week. Just counting a couple of fantasy scores out there, making sure I get them all correct. But no, it's been a decent week.

Apologies and Acknowledgments

00:01:00
Lew
And um shout out to that wasn't a clip. Shout out to everybody counting all the fantasy scores over the weekend. um Phenomenal work. Yeah. Just has ah has your frothing for round one, doesn't it, when we start to look at some of the real stuff. But before then, we've got a couple of these official practice games, which is good, isn't it?
00:01:19
Holmesy
Yeah, and Lou, we are we are going to start the show off today with with a bit of an apology to our man, John Harmy. Now, admittedly, back in back in December when we dragged him over the coals, apparently, about his ah is Hugo Garcia pick.
00:01:27
Lew
no.
00:01:31
Lew
lana
00:01:34
Holmesy
Philippou was still around back then, so it was a bit different. But John Harmy, it's it's clear that you've got an unbelievable fantasy mind. You are the GOAT. And Lou and I apologize to you, mate.
00:01:45
Holmesy
Hugo Garcia, what a pick.
00:01:47
Jon Harmey
Yes, and you laughed at me ah from memory. And I think even last podcast, Holmesy, you may have laughed when I said he was one to watch from a breakout over the practice matches. But anyway, I'm glad to see that you've come around. And, yep, no doubt he's he's your M1 currently, the F1, I expect, Holmesy.
00:02:08
Lew
We'll have to find that clip and put it on the socials because we were pretty anti Garcia, uh, in December, November.
00:02:11
Jon Harmey
Yeah, November last year.
00:02:15
Lew
There you You're giving us a bit of a pass there.
00:02:16
Holmesy
Hang on, hang on.
00:02:17
Lew
Uh,
00:02:17
Holmesy
Lou, I can barely get you to come on for a regular podcast, but you're going to go back and clip up an edit of us and put it on socials. Are we calling that? Nah, well done, Harmy.
00:02:27
Lew
ah
00:02:28
Holmesy
It's just good good content, mate, but good by you. he was He was unbelievable on the weekend and hopefully we see that role continue in the official practice match this week because he's going to be a good pick for us.
00:02:38
Jon Harmey
Yep, and then the other one that I picked, Trent Rivers, he got about 30 touches, didn't he, in the midfield as well. So, no, it's been a good weekend.

Fantasy Team Strategies

00:02:46
Holmesy
Hang on, hang on. Trent Rivers, the one that I put in our draft side back in December and you vetoed.
00:02:52
Jon Harmey
Did I?
00:02:52
Holmesy
Oh, yeah.
00:02:53
Jon Harmey
don't think so. other The other way around, I think.
00:02:56
Holmesy
And joining us for the first time making his podcast debut, we've i've brought a mate on. His name's Sam. Very, very good fantasy mind. Is it twice that you've won our home draft league, Sam? Would I be correct in saying that?
00:03:10
Sam
Yeah, that's right and that'd be about the extent of my fantasy achievements, I think.
00:03:15
Holmesy
Yeah, well, good to good to have you on. You know, someone to replace Louis when ah he goes out bush and we don't hear from him for for three weeks. But good to have you on.
00:03:24
Sam
Thanks boys.
00:03:24
Jon Harmey
Holmesy, just quick question for you, Sam.
00:03:25
Sam
Yeah,
00:03:26
Jon Harmey
Have you ever finished inside the top 20,000 coaches?
00:03:31
Sam
yeah I've got a slightly better record than Dossie, that's for sure, um although it wouldn't be hard. ah Yeah, list of classic achievements. um I'll go through them one at a time. That's it. thanks for um Thanks for listening to my TED Talk.
00:03:45
Sam
Now, really excited to be here and um very happy to be chatting to two of the sharpest minds in the fantasy community and as well as Carl Holmes. Should be really good.
00:03:56
Jon Harmey
ah You're welcome.
00:03:56
Holmesy
Ah, thanks, mate. Good to have you on. Now, what we're going to do for the show today, we're going to start with our hot topics and there's a little bit to discuss and we've each picked two practice match takeaways that we want to go through. So we've got eight there and I'm actually going to do my team reveal as my team currently stands at this point in time. Harmi asked me, is it my real team? I said, yes, Harmi, it is my real team as it stands right now.
00:04:21
Holmesy
ah But knowing full well that what I like to do from this point when we get to the practice games is delete everything and and then start from scratch when we start to get those rookies that we really have to pick in those mid-prices. But I will be revealing my team as it sounds. But let's get into the hot topics.
00:04:37
Holmesy
And the first one straight off the bat that I'm going to start with, I opened up my phone, just got out just got out of school and it's lighting up.

Impact of Injuries on Fantasy Choices

00:04:44
Holmesy
Harmy, Tom DeConing back on the cards. Mark Pitnett, calf injury.
00:04:51
Holmesy
Out for the start of the season. We don't have a timeline yet. Now, Louis, but we're all in, I think, with Tom Deconing now if Pitnett's not there round one. But the question is, does it still make you nervous knowing that it looked like he was in their plans and he can still come in at, or Pitnett can come in at any time?
00:05:08
Jon Harmey
Yeah, absolutely it does. um I mean, you only had to look at that game on the weekend. Pitnett took the first tap, didn't he? So it seemed like that was what the Blues had planned. And i was...
00:05:21
Jon Harmey
watching a few people lining it up on Twitter, saying that they're off him. But they'll all be piling back on, I expect, and it'll be safety in numbers and a lot of people starting with TDK. So, yeah, I'm not sure. I'm still a little bit uncertain, but I think there's we've been asking for a sign, haven't we? And and maybe this is it, Holmesy.
00:05:42
Holmesy
Yeah, look, ah yeah I'll be going there now. I mean, as long as he is named as the Ruck, we assume that they're not going to plug and play someone else. But I think, yeah, safety in numbers and considering he was someone that we all wanted to pick, it was just a little bit uncertainty of

Rookie Selection Strategies

00:05:55
Holmesy
role. But if that role is going to be there, then I will be going there as well. And Lou, over to his teammate. Unfortunate news of Jagger Smith doing his ACL. ah I don't know what that says about the Carlton medical staff when they came out after the game and said that he was all good and he was doing some run-throughs on the boundary line. But...
00:06:11
Holmesy
What does that do to our rookie structure in the midfield now? I know I've been a little bit s skeptical with the rookies coming through. They've got scoring pedigree, but i mean you just have to look at a Sid Draper coming from a long way back with his body and and he didn't really set the world on fire and in the practice match and there was no ranking. So is he going to be there?
00:06:29
Holmesy
you know Xavier Lindsay looked okay, but he wasn't getting heaps of the ball. Levi Ashcroft is he best 22 in that Brisbane Premiership side. So is it is it a simple case of trying to get a rookie to plug and play or have you adjusted your structure to maybe get a ah rookie off field in the midfield?
00:06:43
Lew
Well, yeah, first of all, it's it's devastating news for Jagger Smith. I think we're all keen to pick him this year. He's pretty much locked in everybody's side. and um It is amazing. It's just one rookie, but one that we all had on field and he drops and all of a sudden um everyone's a bit panicky. And I don't blame them either because I think what the practice games, the unofficial practice games over the weekend showed us ah maybe even more so than some of these roles from mid-prices and premiums, et cetera, is that um these rookies are probably a little bit more of a concern than what we initially thought. I mean, you rattled of them off there, Kyle.
00:07:19
Lew
um Levi Ashcroft in a premiership-winning side, is he necessarily best 22 when he played the second half there? Josh sch Smiley, is he going to be fit? Finna Sullivan, is he going to be able to score?
00:07:31
Lew
um yeah Some of these guys we were sort of banking on. Sid Draper was another one you mentioned who may be the sub. So I think coaches are going to have to start looking at potentially restructuring.
00:07:41
Holmesy
Thank you.
00:07:41
Lew
I know many had three midfielders, three rookie midfielders on field. I think that's out the door now. I don't think you can run three there and then to expand out to that, you know, potentially five or six. So, you know, two is probably where people will land. If you can get to one, which I'm sure we're going to go in depth on this podcast about, that may be even more ideal. But, you know,
00:08:05
Lew
yeah I wouldn't call it a rookie crisis in in the fact that they're actually going to be available to play, but yeah some of this scoring potential and the job security issues, the sub, the vest, um it's all starting to look like a little bit of a concern. do Any of you boys find yourself in the same sort of boat, feeling like you're paying up for guys you're not necessarily confident in? Yeah.
00:08:29
Sam
I think like,
00:08:29
Holmesy
Well, I know for me, every year ae i have these rookies that end up being dead weight. So I find a structure that I'm happy with. I think last year, you know, it was a Lazaro that was dead weight. I think Zach Reid um might have got injured, but I always find these rookies that are dead weight and don't get it done. So maybe it is a ah case of trying to minimize these guys and and maybe only having one rookie on field in the midfield defense and forward line and and really...
00:08:55
Holmesy
trying to go with the whole structure mindset rather than an on-field mindset. But Sam, how do you feel about that?
00:09:02
Sam
Yeah, it has me looking at guys like Nathan O'Driscoll a lot more closely. Obviously, there was a lot of hype about him coming off the... um the preseason game with the all-stars and I'm not a big fan of a, of a winger, especially when he's competing with Sharp and it looks like Banfield and, you know, maybe a little bit of Matt Johnson as well, but those guys now become more appealing. I think um when we've got problems with our rookies, the other thing I think it raises a question about for people who liked the Tom Green play last year, ah think you might need to be prepared to save a few more trades for rookie fix-ups where there's a lot more uncertainty. So
00:09:41
Sam
Anyone planning to do something similar with those premiums that have a buy where they you know get them for two games um becomes a little bit more risky.
00:09:51
Holmesy
Yeah, 100% I'd agree with that. Yeah, thats there's definitely a lot of uncertainty and and this early vest we saw last year with the Sanders, McHurcher didn't get vested but we saw him break down with stress injuries early in the season. like These are young kids that are getting thrown in and And that's why typically I haven't liked to pay up for a lot of these guys because they do get rest and get injured. But yeah, I think these roles are starting to to come out a little bit and I think coaches need to adjust, but we will get there. And Harmi, the last hot topic is we've had some players in our team that have have pretty much been in our team for the entire preseason without too much thought. And I'm talking about Callum Mills and Baz Smith.
00:10:30
Holmesy
both not playing in the practice match this week. However, we do have opening round to adjust. And if they play, we're going to get it. We're going to see it and we're going to know their scores. But have you played around with your team to see what your structure might be like without these two players?
00:10:46
Jon Harmey
um No, I haven't with those two that you're talking about, Mills and Smith, because I guess with those two, we're going to get to see them in round zero. So we'll we'll know a week out whether they're carrying any injury or there's any role uncertainty with them. so Thankfully, we'll have a bit of a time to adjust with them. But there usually is a curveball, isn't there, um as we lead into round one. So I'm not sure what it's going to be. But so I'm feeling okay about Mills. I'm not so sure about Smith because he played out there that game the other day, didn't he? So i don't know. I don't think Geelong has said anything about It might just be a management thing coming back from a long-term injury.
00:11:30
Lew
So obviously Mills and Baz, Bailey Smith, ah pretty much permanently picked across the competition. ah But if they're not playing round zero, are we still picking them?
00:11:40
Jon Harmey
Hmm. Hmm.
00:11:42
Lew
They're not going to have that baked in price rise, but I think everybody agrees undeniable value there.
00:11:49
Holmesy
It's an interesting one, isn't it? I mean, if their price, if they're going to have three games before they're buying, that's being dropped to two. Are you really going to miss out on too much?
00:12:01
Holmesy
by only having the two games. I suppose time will tell, but it's also, I mean, Baz Smith, we're all assuming that he's going to be an inside midfielder and that's what they're saying. But if he's not fit and ease him in through the forward line, you know, do you need to pick him before he's by?
00:12:13
Holmesy
Yeah, it's interesting. It's hopefully something we don't have to have to think about. Hopefully they're there round zero, but yeah, it's definitely something to ponder.
00:12:23
Holmesy
All right, let's get into these practice matches.
00:12:24
Jon Harmey
He's too cheap. He's too cheap, Smith. I mean, yeah, I reckon you, like, yeah, you're right, mate.
00:12:28
Lew
Yeah, I was thinking the same. I think I would start both.
00:12:32
Holmesy
Yeah.
00:12:32
Lew
Sorry, homie.
00:12:34
Holmesy
Yeah. Yeah. Nah, fair enough.
00:12:34
Jon Harmey
Yeah, that's all was going to say.
00:12:35
Jon Harmey
I mean.
00:12:35
Holmesy
He is priced at 58. Can't really go wrong. But yeah, just just something to flag. All right. First practice match takeaway. I'll i'll start us off. And watching that Adelaide-Port Adelaide game, which Lou, which I'm sure you did, I'm no closer to figuring out this Adelaide midfield mix as I was to start the preseason. Every match sim report that we get changes with their centre-bounce midfielders. um We were all...
00:13:01
Holmesy
Some of us were thinking that Saligo might be the one that kind of goes out onto a wing a bit more and and doesn't have the CBAs as much, but he looked unbelievable in that practice game. And, um you know, Crouch was there doing Crouch things. Dawson was back in.
00:13:14
Holmesy
Peatling looked good, but he was the one that only had the sort of 35% CBAs and you've still got Rankin in there. Lou, I'll throw to you. ah Are you any more sure about this Adelaide midfield mix? I mean, Peatling, if he's 40%, do we pick him? Like, he's going to be it's going to be the third or fourth scorer in that side.
00:13:33
Holmesy
He might only be able to go 80-odd in that role. Like, it's not a given. he When he was scoring big for GWS, he was second behind Tom Green. Is he he locked in for you or are you a little bit nervous?
00:13:43
Lew
I'm a little bit nervous. He's definitely going to be one that's on the on the watch list this week. mean, you've nailed it with the depth of midfielders that Adelaide has and how they split that time up. um I'd love to go through it with you guys. i sort of if i list If I list them off, um I think we're expecting Dawson to go back to about 70%. Is that probably a fair call there?
00:14:05
Lew
And if that's if that's the case, then he'll be a... He'll be a pretty good pick. Matt Crouch is probably going to be about 65% CBAs. um and then And then we start to look at, you know, Saligo, Peatling and, um ah sorry, what was the other one?
00:14:22
Lew
Isaac Rankin.
00:14:22
Holmesy
Salik, Rankin, yeah.
00:14:24
Lew
And I think Isaac Rankin's actually going to rise up to about 60% as well.
00:14:27
Jon Harmey
Yeah. Yeah.
00:14:28
Lew
So all of a sudden, we're looking at potentially James Peatling in the 50%ers. ah Personally, from a non-fantasy perspective, I think that's good for Adelaide. I mean, he is a threat up forward. So and they're not necessarily going to play him as a full-time midfielder.
00:14:43
Lew
What do we think the pass mark for a score from him is, though? We saw that off of 58% CBAs, he went at about a, was it a 90 clip last season, Holmesy?
00:14:53
Jon Harmey
yeah
00:14:55
Holmesy
Yeah, I think there's more there's more to it though. Like when he was second in GWS, he was second to Tom Green in scoring as well. Like just because he was getting those CBAs, he was still, there wasn't any other midfielders really taking much off him. But I mean, Crouch is going to score even if he's only in there 60% of the time. He's scoring when he's in there.
00:15:15
Holmesy
Dawson's going to command so much ball. Rankin's going to do Rankin things if he's in the midfield. He's their dynamic player. So it's just he might he might get 50% CBAs, but does he have the role that's going to be conducive to scoring?
00:15:27
Holmesy
I know you were big on it with, you messaged me about Tom Green two years ago when you said, you know, he's in there, but he's the hit two guy.
00:15:32
Sam
Thank
00:15:34
Holmesy
He's the one that's going to be commanding all the ball. Whereas if Peatling's in there playing a defensive role, he might tackle, but, you know, is he going to get the ball?
00:15:42
Lew
ah There's just so many points coming out of that midfield with Rory Laird and, you know, Jordan Dawson and Matt Crouch, they can't eat them all up. So um that's why I'm seriously interested in Peatling. I ah think, like I said, I think Rankin will probably be M3 in that mix, but it's just about how much he splits his time within that.
00:15:59
Lew
um Do any of you guys have any strong opinions on sort of what Isaac Rankin can average this season?
00:16:06
Jon Harmey
The thing is, he's he still priced at 80, isn't he? So, I mean, he's 80.
00:16:09
Lew
Yep.
00:16:11
Jon Harmey
What's a really good result for him? He's not going over 100. So, yeah. I think he'll be a good pick, but I don't think he'll be that smash play.
00:16:19
Lew
You really want to pick him as a keeper, though, don't you? And i don't know if I've got the confidence that he'd be a keeper all season if he's not going well over that 95 in the forward line.
00:16:33
Sam
I think there's a chance he can get there.
00:16:33
Holmesy
Yeah, look
00:16:35
Sam
So last year, 92 average when he had 40% plus CBAs.
00:16:41
Jon Harmey
i too
00:16:42
Sam
I think that's what he's getting at least every game this year, 40%. If he lifts it to 50%, is there a direct correlation? Maybe. i actually think 95 is achievable for him.
00:16:54
Sam
um But it's a question of, you know, if he kicks two goals in the forward line, he's going to be staying in the forward 50 because he brings so much creativity.
00:17:04
Lew
Yeah, no, I agree with that.
00:17:04
Holmesy
Yeah, Xavier Ellis was big on that as well. Yeah, it's horses for courses.
00:17:07
Lew
and And if that's the case, that puts Peatling at M4, which I think it was um Vam's fantasy nut on Twitter that said sort of M4 doesn't really go above, was it 88 or something like that, so around that ballpark.
00:17:23
Jon Harmey
But hold on, what's your price there, 64? Like 80, I mean you take 80, 16 points upside.
00:17:30
Lew
Oh, he's in my side. Absolutely.
00:17:32
Jon Harmey
Yeah.
00:17:32
Lew
It's just about where that scope actually lies because it could be a whole lot higher if he if he went up that hierarchy of the midfield group.
00:17:40
Jon Harmey
Yeah.
00:17:40
Holmesy
Yeah, and I think he it per our conversation before about the lack of rookies, if you're getting 20 points from him, I think that's a ah good result if the rookies aren't going to be there. And and that's the whole conversation about the mid-prices.
00:17:51
Holmesy
Harmi, why don't you give us your first takeaway?
00:17:55
Jon Harmey
Well, something that I noticed, and it didn't take too long, it was in the, because we didn't catch up last week in the All-Stars match, Nathan O'Driscoll. So I just sort of started to see these guys that are a bit more expensive than a rookie, but not that ah as expensive as a mid-pricer. So around that 400 mark, I mean, you've got Hutchinson playing on the wing.
00:18:19
Jon Harmey
at West Coast. I'm not sure whether that wing position at West Coast is going to be super high scoring, but interesting. um Yep, a Nod in Fremantle. So we saw what he did.
00:18:31
Jon Harmey
um Sam DeConning as a defender playing in the ruck. If he does play in the ruck, certainly i paid attention to that one. And the reason I did actually was because Amari Shawmaker, who I was kind of interested in,
00:18:48
Jon Harmey
ah didn't line up for the Saints. And I don't think, haven't seen anything about injuries there with him. So at the moment, I can only assume that he didn't get selected or isn't close to being their best 22. So Sam De Koning there. And then, yeah, as you sort of said earlier on, Holmesy, Hugo Carsey, I mean...
00:19:05
Jon Harmey
playing in the midfield with the Saints at a good CBA attendance rate. So, yeah, I guess that's the first thing for me. um Had a bit of a look through and i didn't mind some of the names ah around that $400,000 price bracket.
00:19:20
Jon Harmey
But it also is is quite a good spot because if they don't perform well, um you can sort of drop down to the best-performing rook and you saved $100,000, although thereabouts, to go towards your first upgrade.
00:19:35
Holmesy
Yeah, the other one you haven't mentioned, Harmi, as well is Mitch Nevitt from Geelong, named on ball um tomorrow. So if that role holds true and he's in their round zero plans, we're going to get a good look at that.
00:19:46
Holmesy
Yeah, I suppose the value of these players, that they've been a little bit dirty in the past because we've typically had rookies um that have scored okay, but... if we If we have rookies with shaky job security or or looking to get managed, it's these players that are that are best 22 that have been in the system for multiple years that now present value for us because they're going to be... They might still get a vest. The vest is always going to be there, but it's less likely that their bodies are going to break down having had you know a few years in the system to build up, Lou.
00:20:13
Lew
Yeah, you're a Freo fan, Holmesy, so I'm interested to hear your opinion on Nathan O'Driscoll and where he sort of sits within that Freo side.
00:20:21
Holmesy
Wayne here... Yeah, look, I think he's, um yeah, I think he is, that was interesting, bit of an ad from the AFL website there.
00:20:24
Jon Harmey
Thank
00:20:25
Lew
Stevie is.
00:20:27
Sam
Thank you.
00:20:29
Holmesy
um I think he's fighting for a wing spot. I know there was some pre-season stuff that went on over the weekend when he was getting a little bit of CBA time, but I don't think Hayden Young played So I think that's the midfield rotation is going to be young Brayshaw and Sorong with a bit of Johnson and and whoever else goes through there.
00:20:47
Holmesy
So as a winger, you know, Sharp averaged 73 on the wing last year, but he had some spurts in there where he was averaging, you know, he was getting tons for fun. ah The wing role, it's interesting. I think he can score okay.
00:21:01
Holmesy
was speaking to you though, that that Indigenous All-Stars game kind of gave me vibes of ah a fringe 22 player going above and beyond in a pre-season game to really cement his spot.
00:21:08
Jon Harmey
Yes.
00:21:10
Holmesy
So i want to see him this week to see how that lines up. But you know priced in the low 40s, if he can go 65, 70 from a wing and be best 22 for us, I think he's ah going to be a pretty good pick.
00:21:21
Holmesy
What do you think?
00:21:23
Lew
ah I'm certainly keen. I'll definitely have to weigh up whether or not there's going to be a rookie that's a better buy at the price, just for the difference there, if he's going to make as much. But no, I like the nod pick. He's certainly ah more than likely to be in my side.
00:21:40
Lew
I've got the money sort of stashed away for him. But yeah, that I remember talking to you, Holmesy, and that GMHBA stadium game round one, it's probably not ah ideal. i don't love that, but then it opens up a little bit for him from there.
00:21:55
Holmesy
Yeah, and if he if he does get a little bit of CBA action, I mean, he did at the back end of last year, but that's because he was coming on as sub, so um coming on fresh. Look, ah I'm interested. I am. he' He's had a few years in the system now.
00:22:07
Holmesy
He had a few spike games when he was in his debut year, showing that he does have a ceiling at times. He gets a few goals from the wing as well, so I'm definitely... Definitely watching. It's just that, yeah, that wing roll can be a little bit up and down. And if you get a couple of those those down games early in terms of against Geelong and Sydney in rounds one and round two, then the price isn't going to be going in the right direction early, which makes it a little bit tough. But Lou, why don't you give us your first takeaway?
00:22:33
Lew
ah Yeah, so I watched the Melbourne Carlton game on the weekend and Trent Rivers has been someone we've spoken about for a couple of months now. There's been murmurs that he's going to be playing as a midfielder and um reportedly all pre-season, that's where he's been training and that's what we saw on the weekend.
00:22:48
Holmesy
Thank you.
00:22:49
Lew
He was the predominant midfielder alongside Clayton Oliver and I thought he looked great. you know he On the inside, he did what he needed to do and then on the outside, he was sort of calling back to his half-back days and getting a couple of those little plus sixes, which I like to see. And I think the main question mark here is we know he can score when he's in the midfield consistently, but it's whether or not he goes back to that halfback role. And I think injuries to Judd McVie and Christian Salem and him not actually going back into that defense is probably a good thing. It means that they're sort of set with that midfield brigade.
00:23:25
Lew
it It just begs the question, though, how do they actually set up when it comes to round one? So we know Oliver's most likely going to be in there, albeit maybe a little bit under done. He hasn't played proper senior footy um in a little while. Viney, he's probably going to be in there. Petrarca, we think he might spend time forward. And then it probably does fall to Rivers. So, um you know, if he's going to be that sort of...
00:23:50
Lew
M2.5 to M3.5, is that going to be enough to to get him in our
00:23:57
Holmesy
Well, I'll throw to you, Sam. Do you think this could be the year that Rivers goes past Viney?
00:24:03
Jon Harmey
Ooh.
00:24:03
Sam
Yeah, i actually I actually like it. um So what did he do? Did 89 average post-buy playing as an inside mid last year. um i think he's got a really good floor, Rivers, personally.
00:24:15
Sam
um And so I can see him kind of being ahead of track in terms of CBA numbers even. If track kind of splits his time forward 50-50 and has maybe a bit of a slower start to the season,
00:24:27
Sam
um Clearly, they haven't flicked him back despite some of the earlier defensive injuries. I don't see him doing it now because, you know, clearly the Tom Sparrow sort of experiment is over in there.
00:24:39
Sam
I think he's the next in line and he can kind of be more of an M3 type operator, in which case, you know, we could see him averaging 90 to 95. At least that's where I've got him, you know, picked as at the moment.
00:24:51
Lew
Yeah, and and mentioning Tom Sparrow is probably a good one there. I did hear on an interview that he's, I think we've just dropped so dropped off with Sam there. I heard on an interview that he's going to be trying to fill that Alex Neil Bullen role. So we might not have to deal with him within that midfield mix.
00:25:09
Holmesy
Yeah, look, I flagged this in December. I think Melbourne melbourne are facing a Richmond style, not maybe that bad, but a drop-off and they need a bit of a changing of the guard.
00:25:21
Holmesy
And Trent Rivers, I think, he he played really well in the midfield ah despite going in there mid-year and a full pre-season training in that position, not going back when they've had injuries.
00:25:33
Holmesy
I think they earmark him for that role and I think there is upside there. Now, where it gets to, I'm not too sure because... If they do go back to the well with Viney, Track and Oliver, then as an M4, I'm not necessarily too keen.
00:25:46
Holmesy
But you know as an M2 or an M3, I think 90 to 95 is going to be a ah very good pick, Harmy. And yeah, um I'm excited as I know you say you are, even though you vetoed it in December.
00:25:57
Jon Harmey
Yeah, no, I jumped on board a little while ago. um um And i think I have said this for a little while now, mate. I just am interested in those forwards and defenders that are going be playing around the midfield. So he's quite clearly won at this point of the season.
00:26:14
Holmesy
Sam, why don't you give us your first practice match takeaway? No no pressure.
00:26:19
Sam
Yeah, sure. Thanks, boys. um So my one is more of an eye test, really, but it hasn't been there all preseason, but I loved watching Jason Horne-Francis in these first two hit outs that he's had.
00:26:29
Holmesy
media
00:26:32
Sam
He has looked um unbelievable. And the reason I haven't leapt on it immediately is that if you look at some of his stats from last year, there's not necessarily a direct correlation between CBAs, time on ground and points scored. He seems to really oscillate, depends on how the game's going. He has these quarters where he'll have a 50-point quarter and then disappear the next. But for a lack of an f one um I really start to like the look at him. And I think he can... It's hard to say with, you know, Rosie and Butters taking up so much midfield time, but I think he can push 95 100.
00:27:11
Sam
to a hundred Does that make him a great pick starting at 89? It's touch and go. um but I think if you were looking for someone to pick and lock in for the year confidently at a top six with a little bit of upside in the forward line, I think he's man.
00:27:28
Holmesy
Louie, I'll throw to you as the the Portman on the podcast. We've heard before that Ken Hinckley didn't want to play a ah midfield combination of Rosie, Horn Francis and Butters as they all like to to hunt the footy.
00:27:40
Holmesy
But is this the year for the Horn Bag? Is he going to be the one that potentially goes past Rosie and and matches it with the Butters in the midfield being that sort of number one player for Port?
00:27:50
Lew
ah Look, probably not. I think Sam nailed it there with um with Horne Francis, and I think um he's probably best deployed for Port as that impact player. He's just he's such a superstar and and such a talented player, that and we speak about it all the time with some of the um best players in the AFL, that they're just they're simply a better player than they are um a fantasy scorer. Yeah.
00:28:12
Lew
I do like Jason Orn-Francis. I think he will be top six. I think with that early draw, that's probably what lures me in to want to consider picking him as an F1 to start the season because, you know, he's priced at 90. I think um, Sam nailed it somewhere between 95 and a hundred, but there's every chance that, you know, he starts the season 115 plus and, and you're on your way from there. So I understand the appeal. Um, I, I'm still on the fence with him. He looks fantastic in terms of passing that ah eye test. And, um,
00:28:45
Lew
we We hate to say a natural progression, but sometimes you do need to trust what you see. And it looks like he's ready to take it up a notch. Whether or not that translates to fantasy scoring, I'm not sure. But I do think he's a good pick. And I don't think come the end of 2025, you're going to be sitting there thinking, oh, damn, I wish I didn't pick Jason Horne-Francis to start. um That ruined my season.
00:29:07
Holmesy
Yeah, the other thing about that, Lou, is he's been a name that's been floated all preseason. And if you go against him and he comes out and he does go 105, 110 over the first three to four rounds and gets off to a flyer, you know coaches going to be thinking, oh, you know we've been talking about this guy. Do I get him? Do I not?
00:29:25
Holmesy
So then coaches are going to be thinking about trading him in. And that's where the the game theory comes into it. So yeah, I'm i'm on board at the moment. um I like to trust this preseason. It was ah a Paddy Cripps a couple of years ago that that looked unbelievable. And, um you know, sometimes we just have these players that have unbelievable preseasons and we so we say they're going to go to another level and and they absolutely do. So, yeah, I'm i'm in at the moment. but
00:29:47
Lew
I love that comparison to Crips a couple of years ago.
00:29:50
Jon Harmey
Yeah, I think, I mean, Sam spoke really well about it. He's just about the best performing pre-season player that we've seen so far in the two games he's played. He's looked bloody really good in them. So guess we'll see.
00:30:00
Sam
I mean, he dropped back and took an intercept mark against Adelaide, and I don't think I've ever seen the Hornet do that before. So that was, that blew me away.
00:30:09
Lew
so So if we...
00:30:09
Holmesy
Nah, Harmi. Sorry, Harmi. I'm just going to... A bit of a segue here, Harmi, because you've thrown... He's the second best performing player of the preseason so far because Hugo Garcia is the best performing player of the preseason so far.
00:30:22
Holmesy
And we're going to go into the St Kilda midfield mix because they were running a very tight ship in that game. There was no experimentation of who they're going to run through there. It was... Jack Steele, Jack McRae is the clear one and two.
00:30:36
Holmesy
And then it was Hugo Garcia. And I want to get the name correct, but is it Boxall?
00:30:41
Jon Harmey
Oh yeah, what was that?
00:30:41
Holmesy
ah the Boxall, the rookie, 230K.
00:30:43
Lew
Yeah, box all.
00:30:45
Holmesy
And Garcia actually didn't play in that fourth quarter, which meant that Steele, McRae and Boxall had 100% of the CBAs in that last quarter. So Ross Lyon wasn't mucking around with his midfield group.
00:30:54
Sam
well
00:30:56
Holmesy
He so he knows who he wants at this point in time. There was no Winhager. um There was no random names going through there. so If we see that this week and a Garcia or a Boxall gets named come round one, I think they're both going to be excellent selections at that price point, knowing that they're particularly going to have a ah midfield role in St Kilda. And they all tackle the St Kilda system means that there's marks on offer as well. And yeah, I'm excited, Harmi. So thanks thanks for letting us know about Hugo Garcia, mate. Appreciate you.
00:31:24
Jon Harmey
Yeah, no worries. Well, i'll tell you, I'll give you another one that people seem to be sleeping on, including myself, Holmes. He is Jack Steele. What's he priced at? 106, 107. it's around the same as your um Andy Brayshaw's. But if you believe the stats that we saw, he scored about over 130 from that preseason game. So, yeah, maybe, you know, maybe you bump him up in your ah draft orders because, um yeah, nothing wrong with Jack Steele at the minute, it is there?
00:31:54
Holmesy
Look, if if come the end of the season, Jack Steele was M1 and the highest averaging player in the comp, we wouldn't be surprised, would we? like he's got the He's got the pedigree in and it looks now that he's got a McRae around him that's actually going to provide some support other than the Seb Ross and whoever else they had run through there last year.
00:32:10
Holmesy
So, yeah, yeah Brad.
00:32:10
Jon Harmey
Brad Crouch.
00:32:12
Lew
I reckon he'd be short odds. I reckon he'd be short odds.
00:32:14
Holmesy
yeah Harmi, why don't you give us your second take?
00:32:18
Jon Harmey
ah And I know that we have spoken about this in the past, but but Nathan O'Driscoll is a prime example in that our pre-season matches, there's not too much ah rough and tumble in there and people putting their body on the line. Most of it's outside ball chip uncontested, isn't it? So we have seen a few numbers popping up.
00:32:42
Jon Harmey
from the fantasy statisticians of players that are scoring pretty well. But we've got to remember um there's quite a bit of cheap ball across the yeah the back lines and the wing um and the forwards that are working up the ground at the moment. So that'll turn itll change come round ah one, two, three. But um I guess but just a ah word of warning for some of the scores that we are seeing at the minute.
00:33:08
Holmesy
Yeah, what was the Longmuir quote? we We don't want to give anything away in this game, so we're just going to play vanilla vanilla footy. So yeah, you never never really know what the coaches are ah planning in preseason. A lot of the time, it's just about spreading the load and getting the run through the legs pretty bruise-free. So yeah, great great point, Harmy. And hopefully with the real practice matches this weekend, we get more of a realistic lineup of of what coaches are thinking because it's really that their last dress but dress rehearsal before round zero and round one. Lou, but what's your second takeaway?
00:33:40
Lew
Yeah, watching the Collingwood game the other day, i wanted to watch Harry Perryman quite closely just because obviously he's come over from GWS. ah We've heard reports that he's going to be playing in the midfield and and that's exactly what we saw. He was that defensive midfielder for the Pies all day and in their first team that they played in that sort of threesome game.
00:34:02
Lew
um And what noticed from that is that Collingwood, ah they're really looking to move the ball seriously quickly. You know, they're slingshotting from that sort of halfback and then going and gunning with their small forwards. So it does make me question a little bit, um ah you know, just just how much the scoring is actually there for a Perryman. They're extremely reliant on moving the ball quickly through Nick Dacos too, which isn't very surprising um knowing the pies, but...
00:34:31
Lew
Yeah, I'm struggling to read this one. As far as role, it is a big tick, but I look at some of these names that have rolled there in rolled through there in previous years in a Tom Mitchell, Jordan Degoe, Scott Pendlebury, all really good players, but only nudging sort of 90 in that system. And even if I go as far to say Josh Dacos priced at 95, who's an absolute star, 95 is probably what you'd want.
00:34:56
Lew
um from Perryman to be a smash pick. um I guess, you know, to wrap all that up is what are we thinking is enough from Perryman to warrant him being a pretty good pick? And i know round zero is going to um dictate us somewhat, but what would the line be there as well for you not to pick him?
00:35:15
Holmesy
Well, I'll throw it back to you, Lou. So say hypothetically round zero comes out, Perryman has 70% to 75% centre bounces and scores him? ah seventy five eighty are you picking him
00:35:29
Lew
Well, I think it would depend on what else goes on in that round zero, which I know is a little bit of a cop out, but we're probably looking at a handful of players there instead. So ah ah don't necessarily feel the need to pick a Harry Perriman is all I say.
00:35:46
Lew
um ah I could see myself going into round one without him.
00:35:51
Holmesy
Yeah, well, it is interesting. If you go back historically and have a look at his scores when he was playing midfield, he was a very up and down player. So there was a lot of 70s in there, but then there was some games where he'd go 120, 130 if he had 10 plus tackles. So Look, are the ceiling games going to be there in the Pies midfield? Maybe not if they're a low stoppage, run and gun style team.
00:36:12
Holmesy
um But I mean, we're we're going to watch this week and we're going to watch round zero. We always say for our premiums, you don't look at you don't necessarily look at scores in practice games. You just look at the role. So as of right now, role is tick.
00:36:24
Holmesy
And then we just we go on from there. Would you agree, Luke?
00:36:28
Lew
Yeah, no, and you're spot on, Holmesy. That's why where I'm sort of struggling to read it because, you know, it's sort of what you're seeing versus what maybe you think will happen. But I think you do have to sometimes just trust the role and and you're not going to be mad at yourself if you do make that selection. and And, you know, it is the case and maybe they don't score as well as you can. You can always pivot early.
00:36:47
Jon Harmey
Yeah, I'm still pretty interested in Perryman, but I also saw that it appears that Mitchell and Dagoe aren't that far away now by the looks of their training reports. So, yeah, but perhaps he's on a limited timeframe on those CBAs, but guess we'll see.
00:37:06
Sam
Yeah, and ah like he must be obviously a very hot topic, Perryman, because um he's in my side at the moment. And to answer your question, Holmes, would I take him if he scored 75 to 80? I'd still pick him, I think.
00:37:17
Sam
But um I would pick him with some hesitancy because if we look at the Tom Mitchell case study, you know, when he first joined Collingwood, um I think we were all very excited in the preseason, ah thinking that he would go 110 and be back to his good days.
00:37:32
Sam
And obviously that didn't eventuate. So, you know, similar thing could happen here. Maybe he's tasked with a very defensive role and just ticks over the low 80 sort mark.
00:37:43
Lew
I think we've got to figure out whether or not we're selecting him to be a keeper or a guy to make money because if he does go that 75-80 in round zero with that magic number, he's probably not moving at all and the break even remains the same.
00:37:59
Holmesy
Yep, as always, just a nice round zero watch, Lou. But don't like don't mind the the thought there. And with that early buy as well, if he's going to be someone that's not going to move too much, then we will have to look elsewhere. Sam, why don't you wrap us up with your last preseason take?
00:38:13
Sam
Yeah, sure. And um both of these guys are my boys, and I'm i'm having a bit of a conundrum here. it's I'm talking about Will Day and Adam Chera. So kind of similar stories in some ways. They both averaged 95 in 2023, and then they averaged and respectively last year. Obviously heavily injury affected seasons both of them with I mentioned at the top, with some of the more popular rookies going down or scoring poorly, I'm starting to hunt for a bit more value there.
00:38:48
Sam
And I think these guys, I'm tempted to pick both, but that also feels a bit mid-price madness to me. So i'm I'm interested to hear what the others have to say on this podcast.
00:38:59
Sam
Day probably has a little bit less competition, a better midfield role perhaps, um but also has the buyer to factor in. um So I'll throw it to probably Harmi. What do you think about these two?
00:39:11
Jon Harmey
Yeah, ill like them both, Sam. um Yeah, I do like them both. So I guess I'm continuing to watch what they are doing, but both didn't do anything wrong on the weekend from what I could see. So I am very interested.
00:39:26
Jon Harmey
And I guess um guess we'll see when the team reveal comes round in a few minutes' time ah which one we should be starting.
00:39:34
Holmesy
Yeah, look, Will Day is interesting because we do have to remember that he he had off-season shoulder surgery, so he is coming from a little bit further back. um I didn't watch a heap of that Hawthorne game, but the eye test apparently, yeah well, from the bits I saw, he looked good, but um they were definitely easing him in. He didn't have a full-time midfield role there. he was just getting the the legs moving. So I want to see this week um because you know he did school he did average 95 back in 2023, but that was when Hawks were down a little bit and you know They've clearly picked up a lot since then.
00:40:05
Holmesy
um you know they They play a very team-first brand of footy and and he could have an outstanding year of footy and an average in players' role for the team. But they've both been in and out of my side and I am watching. But you're right, Sam, the early buyer does lean me towards Chera, which is interesting. He was their second highest midfielder on the weekend, but Cripps only had 50% CBAs and we know that's going to be up. He sort of rested a bit more in the the second half. But...
00:40:33
Holmesy
Vams would say that if Cher is not that third or second mid, it's going to be very hard for him to average above 90, Harmy. So is he going to be that second or third mid? Do you think it's Cripps-Walsh and then there's Hewitt as well?
00:40:44
Holmesy
I think he's M3 personally and Hewitt plays that defensive role. But what do you think?
00:40:48
Jon Harmey
Yeah, he's playing midfield, mate. I mean, you could he's got to play midfield for him. Hey, Sam, I'll give you one that I was toying with um the other day because I wasn't lying. I do like both of those players, Day and Chera.
00:41:01
Jon Harmey
Where do you sit on an Ollie Hollands who's about a hundred grand cheaper? um You know, that's what i was thinking about trying to shave some money. um Perhaps you go Will Day down to a Hollands. You don't lose that early buy-around.
00:41:17
Jon Harmey
and you save $100,000, and he should go up in value, you would expect. So where do you sit on him?
00:41:23
Sam
Hollands has been in my team for almost all of the preseason um when I heard about the halfback role. And you're right, he's less risky, I think, than some of those other picks because of his starting price point and what he has to do to be a good pick.
00:41:39
Sam
Having watched the that game on the weekend, they kind of still keep looking for Doc, I feel, um a bit more than Hollands. He was certainly there and trying to pick up some handball receives, um which is always promising.
00:41:53
Sam
And had a couple of kickouts as well. I really like Hollands. I don't think he's going to be a bad pick unless they decide it's not working in the first two rounds and they decide to move him back to a win.
00:42:05
Holmesy
Lou, you might have an opinion here. You jumped into our chat and said, Hollands is real, isn't he? What were you seeing in that game on the weekend?
00:42:12
Lew
Yeah, well, I was, you know, to state initially, I was anti-Hollands. I just didn't see it happening, really. And I wasn't convinced that, you Carlton are going to do a premiership tilt with Hollands as their main halfback. And, know, maybe they won't. but um I just saw on the weekend a bloke who's in a new role just working hard and and he looked decent doing it. He sat off the back of stoppage. He wasn't necessarily getting that cheap ball. you know He was getting those handball receives and and really working to sort of gain those metres.
00:42:44
Lew
You did notice off of stoppage as well, he was sprinting hard for those plus sixes if you could get him. He didn't always get the ah the receive, but... He was certainly there. So, you know, ah I ah can see this guy come the season proper when it's, you know, minute 20 in, you know, the end of the quarters, him just working hard to get those plus sixes and really sort of um stamp himself in our sides.
00:43:08
Lew
He comes in priced at 62. ah We saw this guy go 86 in a similar role last year.
00:43:11
Jon Harmey
Thank you.
00:43:15
Lew
if you go to his last three, which I know probably extrapolating a little bit too much, it could be 40 points upside. So, I think this guy's maybe an 80 to an 85 guy.
00:43:26
Lew
He's 20 points upside enough. Personally, I think it is with that added benefit that he's going to get defensive status in a line where we're already struggling. So, um yeah, I'm pretty big on Ollie Hollins. And I think a larger question mark for me personally will be whether or not I can start both of Ollie Hollins and Adam Chera because I ah do like them both. They represent a lot of value.
00:43:49
Sam
Yeah, and and two other things I'd add is we know the guy's got a massive tank, and when we see these guys with big tanks go into an easy ball halfback role, I use Nick Martin as the obvious example.
00:44:02
Sam
My God, they just get so much pill, especially if they've got a bit of a bit of thirst about them. And the second thing I'd say is if you're on Carlton, what's my halfback plans for the next five years?
00:44:14
Sam
Maybe that's why they're not rolling a Doherty back there. Saad's already old. Maybe they're doing a bit of pre-planning and they're trying to find someone who can play that role for a little while.
00:44:25
Holmesy
Yeah, potentially. Also, I think it's now or never for them in terms of premiership tilt with Cripps not getting any younger. And Kurnow, Mackay and and Walsh and those boys hitting their prime. um Look, yeah, ah I'm still on the fence.
00:44:37
Holmesy
He has value, no doubt. It's where he can get to. You know, if you're coming out of the half-back line, do you want Chera delivering the ball or do you want Oli Hollins delivering the ball? Like, I'm not saying Chera's a defender, but...
00:44:48
Holmesy
you know They've got other ball users in that side and Hollands does butcher the ball a little bit, but no doubt he works hard and and Lou nailed it. I think he's going to have a lot of points on offer in the back end of quarters when everyone's starting to tire and and he's got the tank to to continue on. But yeah, very interesting and well we'll see if he's in my side, which is a ah good segue in. So we're gonna we're going to do my team reveal. It'll be the only team reveal I do ah before the preseason.
00:45:12
Holmesy
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00:45:45
Holmesy
um and yeah, help us out and and we'll get your fantasy ah questions rolling into the start of the season. All right, boys, let's kick it off. We'll start in defense, and I already know I'm going to get backlash for this first pick. I can already picture Harmi's eyes rolling into the back of his head, so I'll get it out the way, Harmi. My D1 at the moment is James Sicily.
00:46:08
Jon Harmey
ah
00:46:08
Holmesy
What do you think about that?
00:46:11
Jon Harmey
Next is D2. Keep going. Without a whole night, I'm too.
00:46:16
Holmesy
Yeah, yeah. He's sitting at me at the moment. Clearly, I get the round zero watch to see if he's actually in that defensive role. It looked like he was on the weekend. There's always going to be the ability for him to go forward, which is a risk.
00:46:28
Holmesy
But we've got a guy that can go 105. We were asking for them to get some halfbacks so that they could free him up, and they've done it. and Now everyone's scared off. So... I'm keen to watch. I'm not saying he's locked in at the moment. And I do have the ability to go down to Trent Rivers if I want to free up some cash army.
00:46:44
Holmesy
ah But at the moment, James Cisley is sitting at my D1.
00:46:46
Lew
You've abandoned your man. You've abandoned yo man, Trent Rivers.
00:46:50
Holmesy
He'll come in. He'll come in. ah The next four our next three are all vanilla picks, which we don't need to talk about, but Jaden Short at D2, Mills and Perryman. Mills and Perryman all round zero watchers, but I like what I'm seeing there so far.
00:47:06
Holmesy
Sam DeConing at D5. So he's someone that I haven't had in for a lot of the preseason, but that ruck roll is starting to look more real ah by the day. And I'm keen to to get a look at that um in round zero and to start the season. I think a lot of coaches will go there. and Lou, this will bring a tear to your eye.
00:47:24
Holmesy
Jackson Pryor sitting at D6. It sounds like he's going to he's going to be best 22 for the Bombers, and we know that the Bombers players like to share that ball around and in defence.
00:47:28
Sam
Thank
00:47:34
Holmesy
He's a little bit elevated, but, you know, if a Jake Kelly could average 60 in that role last year, hypothetically, there's no reason that Pryor can't do something similar. um And with the lack of rookies in defense, I think he's a good one to have there at the moment. And my bench rounds out with Zach Reed and Caleb Smith at the moment. Lou, so any any particular thoughts on any of those players?
00:47:54
Lew
So, Holmesy, that was Sicily, Short, Mills, De Koning, Pryor. I'm missing one player.
00:48:01
Holmesy
Perryman.
00:48:02
Lew
And Perryman. Okay. No, I think that looks but looks pretty good to me. ah James Sicily is obviously the one that stands out, but the one that we we can't really answer any questions.
00:48:12
Jon Harmey
There's no chance he starts with Sicily.
00:48:12
Lew
um
00:48:17
Lew
Well, if you were and so if you were considering Sicily, you you certainly couldn't rule him out at this stage, could you?
00:48:18
Holmesy
We'll say, homie.
00:48:23
Lew
So I think that probably looks like the back line most people are setting up with. you guys' back lines look similar or...?
00:48:34
Sam
Yeah, mines mine's exactly the same.
00:48:34
Jon Harmey
Similar.
00:48:35
Sam
I've got Bailey Dale at the top instead of Sicily, um as I think most people do. But ah like I like the Sicily pick um personally. i won't be doing it because it's high risk, high reward, but I like it.
00:48:48
Sam
So for that reason, if you're happy to accept the extra risk that comes with it, then I'd tick it off.
00:48:54
Holmesy
Yeah, and i've had I've had some other players there throughout the preseason, like Jack Sinclair sat there for a lot of the preseason. um I went to Nassai, Wanganeemilera, which I do like as a pick as well. And if I've got the cash come round one, um I'd be more than happy to go up on on s Sicily to a more stable D1. But that's just how it how it looks for me at the moment with having to find some cash to to fix some of these midfield rookies. But we'll go down to my midfield now.
00:49:19
Holmesy
And I've gone pretty top heavy, which is interesting because technically I only have two rookies on field or three rookies on field. um But my M1 to M3, Brayshaw, Dawson and Rosie. So I've gone pretty big there.
00:49:36
Holmesy
Three players that I think present value all have the ability, well, the top two have the ability to go 110 plus. We've seen it before. Rosie, we think, has the ability to go big. We haven't seen it, but built-in injury injuries from last year and the good run to start.
00:49:51
Holmesy
um I'd be banking on him getting off to a flyer in that full-time midfield role. So happy for all three to sit there. And then it goes a little bit mid-price madness. So ill I'll rattle these all out. I've got Harvey Langford as the only rookie on field.
00:50:04
Holmesy
And then I've got Clayton Oliver, Adam Chera, James Peatling and Mitch Nevitt. So four mid-prices there, although I'm hoping that Clary is going to be someone that can go above 100 and be a bit more of a stable player on the side.
00:50:20
Holmesy
Chera is the risky one, um but you know if he can go 95, he's going to prove to be a pretty good pick. And then Peatling and Nevitt harm me, but what are you thinking there?
00:50:29
Jon Harmey
As a Frio fan, can you explain nevit over ode Driscoll for me?
00:50:37
Holmesy
So Nevitt's going to be the one that we actually get a look at opening round. And if he's got the CBA role in terms of being full-time on ball, I think he's got a better avenue for scoring um than Nathan O'Driscoll being out on a wing.
00:50:51
Holmesy
I think he's slightly cheaper. I don't actually have the price off the top of my head. ah But Nevitt's there for me at the moment purely because I get to look at his role in opening round. um whereas O'Driscoll, we're going to be going in blind. we might We might not even get a game with Hayden Young in the side this week um if if Young's not named. so But yeah, both both interchangeable. I just like someone around that price point. at At the moment, we've got some options there. So full disclosure, before the Jagger Smith injury, Jagger Smith was there um and I wasn't going anyone around that price point, but I've had to pivot.
00:51:23
Holmesy
um And then on the bench, I've just got Xavier Lindsay and Levi Ashcross. We spoke about the fact that we're not sure whether they're going to be there or not, but um just some elevated rookies there so that um if we don't get those rookies in round one, that I've got some cash there to to pivot without having to change my side too much.
00:51:39
Jon Harmey
Just one thing on Neva, thought I'd have a quick look. Averaged 87 from 14 games in the VFL last year. So, yeah, it's certainly a bit of upside there if he gets the role.
00:51:50
Holmesy
Yeah, and we don't like to look at one game, but he finished pretty strong. he had 148 to finish as well. And he's just someone that's getting a bit of pre-season hype at the moment. And sometimes when there's smoke, there's fire. And we don't usually get much out of Geelong and and they're putting his name up a bit. So happy to happy to watch that tomorrow and then round zero to make a call there, whether it's him or O'Driscoll or someone else.
00:52:12
Jon Harmey
Probably won't get a touch show against the bombers, wouldn't have thought.
00:52:12
Holmesy
Moving to the...
00:52:15
Holmesy
yeah Yeah, fair enough.
00:52:16
Sam
Thank
00:52:17
Holmesy
Moving into the rucks now. Once again, a little bit contentious. I've i've spoken all preseason about how i'm I'm not keen to start Cherry. I think he's going to be R1 or R2, but I don't like the run to start. And if I'm paying up that much, I want to be feel comfortable putting the captaincy on him. And personally, i wouldn't. So I've gone against Cherry to start and I've actually got English and Tom DeConing. Yeah.
00:52:41
Holmesy
it's It's interesting. English didn't look very good last year, admittedly. like He didn't really pass the eye test, but the year prior, highest averaging player in the competition.
00:52:52
Holmesy
Jamari Ugo-Hagan struggling, which means you know do they keep Darcy more forward and make English ruck a little bit more? Fingers crossed, I'm hoping, and i I just like that pick at the moment.
00:53:03
Holmesy
And it's more just because of the question marks around all the other Ruckman as well. You had Gorn's comments, you know, Marshall coming off the preseason injury, Briggs with a bye, Nank is Nank. Like there's just not a lot of options. And I think if if English came out an average 110, I wouldn't be surprised, but I can't see him being worse than 104, Sam. Would you agree that 104 should be his base with a potential bit of upside?
00:53:27
Sam
Yeah, it feels right to me. um Those are the three that I've toyed with in my ruck line during pre-season. English, Cherry and De Koning. I can't split English um and Cherry. I think if you can use the money that you save better elsewhere, then I can tick off English.
00:53:45
Sam
um And I think those are picking Cherry. I'm hopeful that he'll be our one end of the year and then it's it's a good pick, I think, irrespective of his price.
00:53:55
Holmesy
Lou, do you have any arguments with those rucks?
00:53:58
Lew
No, I like it. I think ideal scenario, English splits the middle between his best season and last season of 104. So maybe about that 110. I do tend to agree, though, that 104 is probably the base.
00:54:12
Lew
um And then Tom DeConning, I think that we can kick with the wind with this one. I think a lot of the competition is going to go there. He's going to be the solo ruck. um I think he will maintain that role too. um Kurnow should come back relatively early and I wasn't sort of convinced they were going to go into round one with both anyway. They were always going sort of play pit net and then maybe roll into round one how they really wanted to. And I think Silvani is the forgotten man there too who has proven that he can play a little bit of umm that second ruck and then go up forward and cover Kurnow.
00:54:46
Jon Harmey
The conspiracy theorist in me saying that Pitnett doesn't have any injury and they're just giving him an out, it's a soft drop and they're just not going to play him for a while.
00:54:56
Holmesy
Yeah, well, you heard it here first, Harmy. You've never been wrong before, so we'll we'll keep that in the the back of our minds. I've got Boyd at R3, as a lot of people do. If Boyd doesn't get up, I think I probably will have to find some coin to get Reedy in there at R3 because i I do want 30 green dots at this stage with the first three out of the first four rounds being best 18. We're going to have players to loop anyway, so I want to try and maximize cash gen.
00:55:23
Holmesy
ah but we'll deal with that um when we get there if Boyd isn't named. And then my forward line, very, very vanilla, ah but I've got Jason Horne-Francis, Jack McRae, Bailey Smith, Caleb Daniel, Harmi's boy, Hugo Garcia, and Elijah Hewitt.
00:55:40
Holmesy
although Hewitt played in the B side for match sim yesterday. So that's potentially a little bit of concern. So we need to see what his role is um in the practice game if he's named.
00:55:50
Holmesy
And then my two two rookies, now they are basement, but Sam Davidson at the moment seems to have a ah wing role at the Bulldogs at least there for the taking. And we know ah Bevo loves picking these players, and making them his boys and and playing them. So ah don't mind that at the moment. And then Connor Stone, I want to see how he lines up in the half-back line for GWS, but I think that's a pretty good role for him with how they spread the ball around.
00:56:14
Holmesy
ah If Whitfield gives anyone else the ball, I think he could be a ah good scorer as well. But they're just there's rookies at the moment and I don't have my utility field, but I've got two hundred and seventy six k in the bank at the moment to to put a rookie in that's named.
00:56:28
Holmesy
Harmy, overall thoughts, concerns?
00:56:31
Jon Harmey
Got a lot of 230k rooks there actually. so I'm not sure how you're going to go if they're not named. think Caleb Smith and I can't remember your other backline player.
00:56:44
Jon Harmey
So anyway, you may end up running out. How much money is left in the bank? A million dollars?
00:56:50
Holmesy
Yeah, no, I didn't do a Stato this week. I decided to be a little bit transparent with the listeners and and not try to throw them off.
00:56:56
Sam
Bye.
00:56:56
Holmesy
You're right, Harmy, and that's absolutely something I should think about. um you know I've got the three big dogs in the midfield, so it might be a case of one of those guys going down um to someone in that 700, 800k range, like maybe it is a wheel day, which then gives me some coin to spread over the...
00:57:12
Holmesy
over the benches. But like I said, um from this point in time, I'll delete my team and I'll build it from the ground up. So once I get the rookies that I have to pick and the mid prices, they'll go in and then I'll see what I'm left with later on um to to fill out the premiums because the rookies are super important. And I've been ah been caught in the past of picking a rookie to fit fit structure rather than picking a rookie because they're the right rookie. you know Like I said, Lazaro, Jai Clark,
00:57:37
Holmesy
um ah Zach Reid just all picked because they they were low and they fit my structure, but not necessarily the right rookies to pick. So want to make sure I'm really smart there. But Lou, any any concerns, any roasts?
00:57:50
Lew
Oh, it's a good thing you're deleting your team after this. ah No, no, I'm only kidding, mate. that That looks like a pretty solid side to me. I think the standouts are probably the one rookie in the midfield group. So obviously yeah you don't have a lot of confidence in... is it Is it more that you don't have the confidence in the rookies there to score, Holmesy, or are you more banking on the fact that maybe a Nebbitt...
00:58:16
Lew
um puts one out of the box and can be that cash generator and um failing that would never sort of be replaced by by Nathan O'Driscoll.
00:58:26
Holmesy
Look, to be honest, it is purely the fact that you know a Mitch Nevitt, a Nathan O'Driscoll, maybe even an Ollie Hollins if I have to find some cash to go up. These players have been in the system for multiple years and they're more likely to break into the side and play consistent games rather than these first-year rookies that typically come in, they might have a good couple of games and then they tire and they get managed or they get the vest.
00:58:44
Jon Harmey
Yeah.
00:58:50
Holmesy
You know, it's one thing to pick role in scoring, but job security and longevity in the game is also important. um And at the moment, the way I see it is, these first-year rookies coming in, a lot of them have had interrupted pre-seasons um and they're just prime vest candidates or being managed and then you're in trouble. So that's that's the reason at the moment I'm trying to spread the coin a little bit and and pay up. it It might work or it might not, Sam. But what are you, any closing thoughts for my team before we wrap up?
00:59:19
Sam
Yeah, I think, I don't know if we'll get Nevit. I think we'll be lucky if that happens. But again, it's hard to know with Geelong. We never get any information out of him during the preseason.
00:59:30
Sam
um Dangerfield sounds like he's going to be spending all that time forward. Maybe they're finally biting the bullet and injecting some, you know, relative relative youth in there.
00:59:41
Sam
um But no, otherwise, I think the team looks good. A great balance. Yeah. Roe is one that I've cooled on a little bit, only because of how Horn Francis has looked so good.
00:59:53
Sam
But, yeah, I don't have too many knocks on the side overall. One one one player I would like to get the crew's thoughts on, because we've been talking about at Holmes, is Tim Taranto.
01:00:04
Sam
I've kind of got a bit more bullish on him, and I think there's arguments to be made there. You know Richmond don't score well. They're not going to be a good side this year. He's priced at 95, think.
01:00:15
Holmesy
Thank you.
01:00:15
Sam
i think And, ah like, I've got him... I think he could go 105 this year pretty comfortably.
01:00:22
Lew
Yeah, I um ah looked into Tim Taranto ah quite a bit the other day. i was sort of questioning myself with the pick um just because he had been in my side for so long. And um in 2023, went that 112 and we're thinking, what a ripper pick, and then drops down to that 95. So there's some inbuilt value there. Their market share in terms of how many fantasy points that they scored as a team drops by about 100 or so so And ah in that, Tim Taranto dropped from 8.2% to if my memory serves.
01:00:57
Lew
So if he can go back up to 8% and Richmond can go back up to 1,400 fantasy points as they did in 2023...
01:01:05
Holmesy
Complete with the world's most powerful...
01:01:07
Lew
We're looking at 110 plus average. ah But the question marks for me are whether Richmond go back to that 1,400 accumulated fantasy points because, as we know, Prestia's not there now. He's got some Achilles soreness.
01:01:21
Jon Harmey
Surprise, surprise.
01:01:21
Lew
we're We're pretty much looking at Tim Taranto, Jadon Short, Nick Bloston and a bunch of 19, 20-year-old kids.
01:01:28
Sam
Yeah.
01:01:29
Lew
So, ah dk k can people kick it to Tim Taranto? You know, he can find the ball 30 times, but there's there's so many elements to be able to create this fantasy score. um There's so many things pointing in a direction that you go, okay, there's got to be some upside. And personally, I think he's a better player than 95 regardless. But... um I would just prefer to steer clear from these Richmond and and probably West Coast sides, at least for the first couple of weeks of the fantasy season.
01:01:56
Lew
And you know in saying all that, also wouldn't surprise me if Taranto is you know a Tom Rockliffe of years past where he's just that only player that can actually um find the pill.
01:02:03
Holmesy
Shoot
01:02:08
Lew
So it remains to be seen. I'm bullish, as you know you can probably tell. I'd be interested to um to hear Harmy and Holmes' thoughts on him, though.
01:02:18
Holmesy
Look, i've I've had him in my side for a lot of the preseason. All your concerns are valid. It's just I want players that are going to get off to a hot start. And he might buck the trend anyway, but listen to the teams that he comes up against in the first couple rounds. So he's got Carlton, Port Adelaide.
01:02:34
Holmesy
Then he plays St. Kilda, Brisbane, Frio, Gold Coast, Melbourne. So his run opens up a little bit late, but he's got some tough games early.
01:02:42
Jon Harmey
Yeah.
01:02:42
Holmesy
And we know he's he's got a flaw in his day.
01:02:43
Sam
Thank you.
01:02:44
Holmesy
like he's he He puts up random 60s. And if he comes out against Carlton and Port in those first two games and starts with 60s, 70s, or even eighty s it's ah it's a bit of a dud pick.
01:02:56
Holmesy
But he's um he's got he's got fantasy pedigree. He's a filthy fantasy pig when he wants to be. I'm just nervous about this Richmond side.
01:03:05
Jon Harmey
yeah Yeah, look, I think he will average over 100, Lou, but I think he's going to have a difficult ti start to the season.
01:03:14
Lew
I'll just give you one more, Holmesy, just to finish up. Riley Sanders in the forward line is quite highly picked. Is that just a concern on where he sort of sits within that CBA role?
01:03:26
Holmesy
At the moment, it's just I didn't have ah didn't really have space to fit him in. ah He was the victim when Horn Francis came in to find some space. I'm a little bit like cagey. like he's ah He's a pre-season height pick for sure. We saw him average pretty well last year in the role.
01:03:41
Holmesy
um You know, what's what's his role going to be? bond ah Bont, Ed Richards, Libba, is he M4? What does he go as an M4? You know, probably could go eighty eighty five pretty easy. You know, 85 would be a very good pick. 80 would be good without it being a smash.
01:03:57
Holmesy
He's someone I'm definitely looking at. um He was just a victim of structure. um But yeah, if he comes out in the practice game coming up and he's M3 and he he shoots the light out, he's going to be pretty hard to ignore behind ah next to Bonton and Richards. What do you think?
01:04:13
Lew
yeah He's got that nice start with North Melbourne and the Pies. I'm relatively bullish. I tend to agree with you, see where he sits within that CBA lineup.
01:04:23
Lew
But respect to the talent of the player, I think he's far better than that 64. And um even if we don't get the sprinkle of CBAs that ah maybe we hope, if that even sits at 40% to 50%, I still think we might be able to bank ourselves somewhere between 80% and 85%, which um
01:04:29
Jon Harmey
Yes.
01:04:41
Lew
which would probably be enough, but I can see why you've got the appeal of a Horne Francis there instead.
01:04:48
Holmesy
I suppose it's all to do with the rookies as well, right? So he was sitting, well, not in that technical spot, but you know he was around where Garcia was. If we're looking to get 15 to 20 points upside, if I can get 15 or 20 points from a rookie, then there's not really that much point in picking him because he's not going to be a a top line forward.
01:05:07
Holmesy
But if we don't have the rookies, then he absolutely comes back into calculations again for me. And I haven i haven't ruled him out yet. Like I said, he's just a victim of structure at the moment. Boys, we've been going for over an hour, but we've got to get through some of these questions. So we'll ask him nice and quick and we'll get a but ah quick response, Harmy. So the first one here um from Bontsville Wizard.
01:05:26
Holmesy
He wants to start X in English because he can't deal with the rucks anymore. Now, this was before the the Tom De Koning news, but are you opposed of just paying up and and starting X in English?
01:05:36
Jon Harmey
No, I'm not opposed to it and I think they're both pretty good picks so I wouldn't have any real concerns if that's the way he started.
01:05:43
Holmesy
Yep, at the end of the year, if if X and English were the top two rucks, I'd believe that. So if you believe they're the the top two rucks or they're going to be close enough, then absolutely lock them away and and don't deal with the headaches that we're all going to have with the rucks when Tom De Koning, no doubt, starts at full forward one game and we're all scrambling to trade. So don't they hate that at all.
01:06:04
Holmesy
Lou, from Lee Humphress, Jagger Smith was locked in at M7. um He's worried with Levi only playing the second half of the Brisbane game. So which rookies at the moment, at this point in time, are you happy to actually field?
01:06:17
Lew
I really liked Harvey Langford's game. I'd be more than happy to field him. Levi Ashcroft, in the time that he did play, it was quite good. It'd be interesting to see what end of the stick he gets in terms of sub because if he's on for the first three quarters, um I think I'd still be tempted to start him and maybe even consider him on field. Just really rated his game on the weekend.
01:06:37
Lew
Josh Smiley is probably another one too. If we've got nobody in that Richmond midfield, somebody's got a score and highly rated from football ah perspective as well as fantasy. So those three would probably be my main three.
01:06:51
Holmesy
Down.
01:06:51
Lew
You could also, if you did like those forward options, let's say you want to add um somebody into that mix of McRae, Sanders, Smith, Daniel and Garcia.
01:06:52
Holmesy
Down. Down.
01:07:01
Lew
like a Horn Francis, then you can move a Hewitt up into your midfield. You're matching everybody else in that case. So there's a few different ways to spin it.
01:07:09
Holmesy
Sam, this one's for you from Wadi. Just for discussion purposes, I'm keen for your opinion. What do you classify as mid-pricer? So we talk a lot about underpriced premiums, discounted premiums. What do you actually classify as a mid-pricer?
01:07:24
Sam
Ah, geez. It's a question with a million answers, I think. But I think so. Forwards, for example, I think anywhere from 400 to 600 this year. But then again, like, you know, Baz Smith is in there.
01:07:37
Sam
Mid, so I'd drop it down. If I think about guys like Peatling and Hollands, I'd draw the line at probably 600 to maybe... up to maybe I don't know, 800, I suppose, because that captures Will Day and Chera.

Mid-Pricers vs. Discounted Premiums

01:07:51
Sam
Rucks, I don't even even know if there's one worth talking about. Maybe, i don't know, Jordan Sweet. Oh, actually, Matthew Flynn, I suppose, is your mid-price ruck. So he's, what, 500 and something. And then the defenders, 500 all the way up to 800, knowing that Rivers is a tick above that. It's hard to draw the lines, but those ranges feel right to me.
01:08:14
Lew
It's sort of player dependent, isn't it? you know Underpriced premium, discounted through injury, et cetera, et cetera.
01:08:18
Sam
yeah yeah yeah
01:08:21
Lew
It's just too hard to put an umbrella on it.
01:08:23
Sam
yeah
01:08:23
Holmesy
Yeah, I think it's ah think it's to do with...
01:08:24
Sam
yeah
01:08:26
Holmesy
Now, the keeper word's a bit dirty, but if you believe... like Let's use Baz Smith as an example, who's very clearly in that mid-price range, but we're not picking him because we think he can go from 58 to 78 and then get traded out with 20 points upside.
01:08:40
Holmesy
We're picking him because we believe he can be a keeper for us for most of the season and and score in line with the top six, if not be a top six. So I think that's where I like to differentiate where, you know, it does get a bit blurry in the midfield, but let's use an Adam Cher, for example, priced at 72.
01:08:56
Holmesy
really he's a mid-pricer because we're kind of hoping he goes up to 92 to 96 and he gets traded out. Whereas maybe an Oliver, although slightly more expensive, yes, he might be a mid-pricer, but we're hoping he can get back to his 100, 105 days and be kept for for large parts of the season. So I think I distinguish mid-pricers as players that I'll get upside from and I'll trade.
01:09:18
Holmesy
Whereas, a discounted premium, although they might be mid-priced, is someone that we plan to hold for long periods of the season until maybe after their buy or or a maybe even longer. Harmi, this one's for you from Andrew. I really like Tom Powell. I think he's a nice pod, can go 95 plus easily.
01:09:36
Holmesy
So on that, how many of Oliver Day, Noddy, Peatling, Hollands is too many if he's looking at a Tom Powell?
01:09:43
Jon Harmey
I quite like Tom Powell and I actually went scrambling ah in the app trying to find him but then he was a mid only and then he was about 800,000 so yeah cooled. I think he could have a really good season but I just don't think those two things, he's probably a bit expensive and not available as a forward so I sort of cooled on him a bit when I saw that but I could see why he'd be and while he would be appealing.
01:10:10
Holmesy
Yeah, I'm a bit nervous on Tom Pau just because of I'm a big market share guy. Vams has put the stats out. How many midfielders average above 90 in a particular team? And we know LDU is going to be that 95-ish guy. We know Sheasel is going to be 105-ish.
01:10:24
Holmesy
You know, there's talk of a Simpkin. There's talk of a Parker. You know, what can they all average? They're not all going to go over 90. They play for North. So 95 might be a bit of a stretch as LDU is their main ball winner and he struggled to go 95 at times. But there's no doubt there's upside and and he is that prototype pre-season player that's getting all the hype and and looks really good. So i don't hate the pick. I just question where he might get to, Sam.
01:10:48
Sam
Yeah, Andrew, I'm the biggest Tom Powell truther you'll find on the internet, and I haven't even considered him. I think he's just a little too expensive to take a punt on. If he goes bang, trade into him, that would be my plan, Tom Powell.
01:11:03
Holmesy
Look at Sam giving out the the solid advice. Not only has he been frantically typing on his on his computer to get CBA stats up from previous years. Look, we might have to keep you around, Sam. you You might be in a bit of trouble because you're technically in a meeting right now, but we'll we'll see how we go. Finish us off ah for shenanigans.

Adjustments and Anticipations for the AFL Season

01:11:22
Holmesy
Who benefits from Jagger Smith out? is there any Is there any benefits or is it really just a ah half forward role as a rookie who might get small CBA numbers?
01:11:25
Jon Harmey
Mmm.
01:11:31
Holmesy
Or do you think he actually had a bigger midfield role in mind?
01:11:36
Sam
Yeah, it's a hard question only having one game to look at. But you've put one name there, which is Hewitt, and that might actually be the case. I feel like he was just getting squeezed out.
01:11:47
Sam
They are very different players, though. Actually, to be honest, my Carlton knowledge about sort of who's next in line here, maybe Elijah Hollands, because he saw him get some CBAs back end of last year.
01:11:55
Jon Harmey
yeah
01:11:59
Sam
And he's got you know that little bit of dash and run and carry and can break the lines. So maybe he's the one that comes back into the CBA mix.
01:12:08
Jon Harmey
doc
01:12:08
Holmesy
Yeah, really rate that call. um You know, Hewitt, although he's got his downfalls, he's their defensive mid. He plays a very important role and I was actually very surprised that he was used as the sub last year. Maybe it was a management issue to try and get them through, but when he's playing, he plays that defensive role mid and he actually does it quite well. So not sure there's going to be too much benefits outside of an Elijah Holland. So maybe look at him and bump him up your draft boards, except you, Sam, you keep him down um as we'll be drafting against each other in in two weeks' time, which will be interesting. But So boys, that's goingnna that's going to wrap us up. And we one final quick takeaway, Harmi, like how are you feeling about the season and are you ready for for round zero and round one?
01:12:48
Jon Harmey
Well, I've already got two changes as of tonight. i brought Tom DeConing into my ruck line and I got, who was it? Ollie Hollands into my midfield. So thanks, fellas, for all your help.
01:13:02
Holmesy
Beautiful. And Lou, thanks for having you back on, mate. Looking forward to actually having a webcam next week so we can see you. But why don't you give us a closing thoughts for the listeners who haven't heard you much this preseason?
01:13:14
Lew
Oh, you know, just get pumped for the ah for the official practice games. This is when it actually starts to to feel real. you're going to have champion data keeping the stats. You're going to have time or ground. You're going to have all this data to work with. And then from there, it's about picking. And then um and then we'll so we'll start to get into opening round where we'll try not to to throw our teams out the window and and get too excited about some of these some of these players.

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01:13:38
Lew
So, um yeah.
01:13:41
Lew
Any closing thoughts, Holmesy?
01:13:41
Holmesy
Look, Lou, I don't know about you, mate. it's the It's the most exciting part of the year. We're all winning the Hilux and I can't wait for it to be the end of round one. I'm sitting 15K and I'm absolutely hating everything.
01:13:53
Holmesy
It's going to be absolutely all time.
01:13:55
Lew
No, no. We're going to make it past the bye this year, Holmesy. That's what we're going to do at Pod Pod. At round 19.
01:14:00
Jon Harmey
No, when Sicily scores 200 in round
01:14:00
Holmesy
Hey.
01:14:02
Jon Harmey
Hmm.
01:14:03
Holmesy
That's, there you go. You've heard it here first. That's the pod pod goal. Make it past the, the buy rounds and Sam mate, thanks for, thanks for joining us.
01:14:09
Lew
at ranon
01:14:11
Holmesy
Good, good podcast debut for you, mate. Really looking forward to having you involved in 2025. You weren't too nervous, but have you got any closing thoughts for the the listeners? Have you enjoyed your time?
01:14:22
Sam
I absolutely have, boys. um It was a pleasure. I would say to the listeners, pray for some rookies to get picked in round one because otherwise we're looking at mid-price madness.
01:14:32
Jon Harmey
Yep. yep
01:14:33
Holmesy
Looking forward to it. For everyone else, make sure you're following us at PodPod AFL on X. I'm at Holmesy's Heroes. Make sure you're subscribed to us on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to your content.
01:14:47
Holmesy
Boys, we'll be back next week with the mother of all podcasts, reviewing these practice games. Really looking forward to it. Have a good week, and we will chat again soon.