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Welcome to The Draft Doctors | Strategy Round Table | Harmey’s Top 6 | #PODPOD

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Round 7 saw a mixed bag for coaches, with many good teams copping bullets whilst others remained steady on their rise towards a top 100 cap. Fantasy jets such as Jack Steele and Rowan Marshall are shells of their former selves off the back of injuries, Tom Powell has been shunted to the forward line and many rookies and mid pricers times are coming to an end. For coaches in good spots, it’s time to attack!! Whilst other coaches find themselves in a hole desperately hoping to find a way to fight back into the season!

Join Harmey, Holmesy and Stevie Fizz of the Draft Doctors as they dissect the round that was and guide you towards your trades for round 8. The lads review their rounds, talk about many relevant trade targets and discuss players who potentially need to be traded out. In this episode the boys dive deep into strategy and using their experience provide key insights into how you should be looking to attack at this point of the season. This episode is not one you want to miss!!!

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Transcript

Introduction & Guest Welcome

00:00:19
Speaker
G'day and welcome to the Pod Pod. It's Holmesy here talking all things AFL fantasy classic for you on this Wednesday night, 1st of May. Yeah, that's right. It's May already. Holmesy's birthday month. Look, it's been a tough couple of rounds, which we're going to get to, but Pod Pod's here. We are short a few panel members this week, but we do have a very special guest that I'll get to. But as always, the stalwart of the Pod Pod, I have two-time top 10 finisher, John Harmony with me. Harmony, mate, how are you going?

Weekend Fantasy Wins and Losses

00:00:50
Speaker
Hello, host, Holmsey. Yeah, I'm not going too bad. I don't know. Had a few wins and a few headaches over the course of the weekend, but I think that was pretty common amongst fantasy coaches from what I saw with some scores out there.
00:01:06
Speaker
Yeah, it was one of those weeks. I think on the top end, you had a couple of, well, a lot of coaches go 2100 plus with some really big scores above 2200. But a lot of us sitting the low 2000s, some of us even less than that, which we'll get to. But we have we have another special guest with us. You've heard him on this show before. He's been a little bit sad that Stado's left him on the draft, Doctor, so he needed to get amongst it a little bit. He needs someone to actually talk to on a podcast. We have Stevie Fizz with us, mate. How are you going?
00:01:36
Speaker
I'm doing all right. It's interesting you referenced Stado because I only scored the year he was born this week with the 1922. So no, it was a rough, it was a rough week. We love that. We love the old man Stado gags. No doubt he'll be listening. Hopefully there's Wi-Fi out in Darwin in the middle of nowhere. It is at the moment, but it is good to have you mate.

Drafting Dynamics & Humor

00:01:58
Speaker
Before we get into it though, I do have a bit of a bone to pick with you. So I think I mentioned on the pod a couple of weeks ago, I was
00:02:04
Speaker
I was sitting in my math classroom teaching some year-8s and it was all right. You can tell how it was going already. It wasn't a great day when my phone's going off, my watch. Notification comes in from Stevie Fizz that just says, mate, it'll be okay. Just get off the ledge. That was appreciated. But the bone I want to pick with you is we started talking a little bit and then
00:02:26
Speaker
I started talking about my draft side and I mentioned, you know, I'd started quite well, but I've kind of fallen off and wouldn't mind some help and crickets. Didn't even get a scene. Didn't even open it. You're supposed to be the draft doctor and you've just given me donuts. I thought you were just taking the piss. I thought you heard how my teams were going this year, so you just
00:02:48
Speaker
bit of a low hanging fruit, but we got riders, we pay to do that sort of stuff now. I don't give out advice. I just sit behind the mic and cherry pick.

Fantasy Scores & Strategies

00:02:57
Speaker
Here I thought we were mates, mate, and I thought we'd be able to get something here, but that's all right. Don't worry about it. But yeah, moving on. Let's get this out of the way. Let's discuss our weekend's first harm. Why don't you give us your score and where you're currently ranked? Yes, I put up a score of 2044, which
00:03:18
Speaker
It must have been a bad average for me. I don't think I've changed too much. My rank is 6073 at the moment. Yeah, not ideal, not ideal, but still plenty of time to make it up. At least that's what I'm telling myself. Stevie Fizz, how'd you go this week? Yeah, so the 1922 dropped me down about 4,000 spots.
00:03:40
Speaker
Uh, to 5,100. Uh, yeah, tough, tough. Had the Tom Stewart injury and had to go sideways from Luke Jackson and it wasn't a, wasn't a good week. Well, you had to say had to a bit. I don't know. Holmes, did you hold him? I held him and I wish I hadn't 61. Nah, I jumped off army. Although 33 at quarter time had me, had me a little bit nervous, but yeah, nah, I jumped off.
00:04:09
Speaker
Dempsey was on 30-something at a quarter time, put up about 18 points for the rest of the game.
00:04:15
Speaker
Yeah, no, it wasn't pretty to watch, especially with Freo

Honoring Former Members

00:04:19
Speaker
getting on top there. I myself had the 1968, which wasn't ideal off the back of a few things that went wrong, which we will get to in the next segment, but that has shot my rank out even further to 4,494. So from 180 to 4,494 in the back of two weeks is pretty hard to swallow, but we'll keep churning it out. We'll keep giving it a crack in.
00:04:42
Speaker
Hopefully it's time for it to turn around because I've had some bad luck. But moving into our plus three negative segment. Now, I've had a bit of a, I've had a listener, the self-quoted Pod Pod biggest fan get into my DMs during the week. And he said that we need to come up with a name for the plus three negative three section. We can't just be like every other podcast. We need to be a bit different. So in tribute to the two members that are no longer on the podcast, we've got Dossi and Stado.
00:05:12
Speaker
Stado's got the credentials. Five-time Real DT hat winner. Third in 2018, I believe it was. The great man makes Stado great again. So our plus three segment here on out is going to be named the Stado.

Top Fantasy Picks Discussion

00:05:26
Speaker
So Hami, can you give us your Stado pick for the week? Thanks. Oh, my Stado pick for the week. Well, I'll tell you what, I'll give it to somebody I traded in last week, and that was Jordan Dawson, where he's at 122. So that was pretty good.
00:05:41
Speaker
Even though he sat the last 15 minutes of the game on the beach, would you believe that and still got scored 122? So when he was out there, he was doing everything. So that was good to watch. Yep. Very good pick by you, Hami. Very jealous and tough matchup against Port, but no doubt he will rise to the occasion in the showdown. Stevie, what's your Stado pick for the week?
00:06:05
Speaker
Oh, probably Harvey Thomas. It was a horrible matchup, but to get 77 there, I thought he did really well and probably saved forward lines with Harley Reid being rested against our dominant Gold Coast Suns.
00:06:22
Speaker
Gee, that really does show the state of our team, Stevie Fizz, because my stato for the week is Darcy Wilson's 92 that I was able to loop on and bench Jeremy Sharpe. So I don't even really want to do the maths on what my score would have looked like without that. But yeah, my stato pick is Darcy Wilson. Very good pick and should be someone that we can hopefully ride on field in the forward line, especially this week with the North Melbourne matchup.

Underperforming Players - Hold or Trade?

00:06:48
Speaker
Hami, I think you know where this is going, but our negative three section is now going to be named the Dossie pick. So what is your negative three Dossie pick for the week? You know, I've got some poor scores here, but nothing in the Dossie realms. So I do feel a little bit underwhelming in giving mine to Luke Jackson, who we've mentioned, who scored 61, but against Richmond, I was expecting a bit more, be fair to say.
00:07:20
Speaker
Yeah, are you looking to jump off that ASAP harmony or do you have bigger issues? Oh, well, she's based on the advice here tonight. I guess I have to. But it depends who I can get to, which is something that I want to have a chat about. I've got a few players I've been looking at as a trade-in target. So I'll give you my take on that in a minute. Beautiful. Stevie, how about your Dossie for the week? Oh, that's got to be Tom Powell. Tom Powell, why?
00:07:48
Speaker
came into the season hating, somehow got tricked into picking up. To be fair, he's been pretty good, but yeah, what can you say? It was a howler. Yeah, who would have thought that Clarko would go back to Will Phillips and Jai Simpkin in the midfield with the way Powers has been playing. I would have thought he's the one that kind of stays in there with what he's been offering, especially defensively, but apparently not.
00:08:13
Speaker
I suppose time will tell this week if we hold him, if he's going to go back into the midfield.

Listener Segment Naming & Trade Strategies

00:08:18
Speaker
I think it's a pretty keen watch on selection there. My negative three, and this one hurts. It was my way to attack cherry owners who had made a bulk amount of cash and also put points on me on the board as well. Roland Marshall brought him in three weeks ago.
00:08:35
Speaker
Got 138 on debut and thought, I'm on here, genius move. And then he's gone 62 and 73 to back it up. And to be fair, he got the knee knock in that first quarter. It looked like he was going to be subbed on two. So to get out there and still get your way to a 73, I've got to give him credit for that. But as a captain, definitely not what I needed for the weekend. So yeah, Rowan Marshall, my dossy pick for the week.
00:09:02
Speaker
All right. Uh, just on that Dossy watch, he wants us to throw it in there. 2080 had this week rank of 14,662. Can't say it's a personal best anymore because he did actually slide. Um, but he's still adamant that he is winning the Hilux. So we'll keep you updated there. Onto the pod challenge now. Just to clarify though, so he scored 2008.
00:09:28
Speaker
but he's still about 10,000 ranks below the three of us. So that's good news. Yeah, yeah, exactly right.

Team Roster Upgrade Strategies

00:09:38
Speaker
God, I wish we still had him on the show. It would make me feel a lot better about my team. Moving on to the Pod Pod Challenge now. We just have the one coach now, Jordan P's team still sitting in first, which is very good to see. 16 coaches in the top 100, so hopefully
00:09:55
Speaker
That can continue to rise and obviously special note to DC, friend of the show who's currently sitting in 100th place. Been one of the luckiest men in fantasy so far this year, but hopefully he can continue that run going in and push deep into the 100 in the second half of the year. Stevie Fizz, I know you love the competition. You're an avid listener, big fan. So can you give our listeners an update on the Content Creators Cup for us?
00:10:22
Speaker
Yeah, I will. Harmony, it looks like it says defeated by, but it looks like you've had a pretty solid win over Jake. Stado just got pumped by Homsey, which, you know, sounds weird because it seems like he had a pretty ordinary week. Homsey, Stado must be traveling pretty ordinary. Yeah, the Maxgorn VC as well, the big fella. So that's horrendous by him.
00:10:45
Speaker
Geez, I wonder what he'll use in the excuse this time. And Louis just got dismantled by Hef with a monster score. Yeah. Yeah, look, that's the Content Creators Cup brought to you by Infinite Wealth, doing some good stuff over there. So make sure you keep tuning into that. Hami, start us off for our strategy roundtable this week. What do you sort of want

Rookie Potential & Team Dynamics

00:11:11
Speaker
to discuss in terms of strategy moving forward as we start to prepare for the buyers and
00:11:32
Speaker
and really start to attack.
00:11:39
Speaker
find somebody that's dropped a bit of cash and we get on board and away we go. That's the simple theory. Now, there's a few issues with that. And I guess, namely, what rookies are we going to go to? Because as I said to yourself and Steve earlier, I'm starting to pick up a couple of red dots, which is a touch concerning. And if I have a look at some of our rookie targets,
00:12:04
Speaker
I'm getting a bit worried about whether they've got the spot in the best 22 week in week out. So yeah, we may need to get a bit creative in the way that we are generating cash in our team to get our value up. But that's probably just one point from me. I mean, yeah, that's exactly what we want to be doing. But as as you guys have identified with your trades last week, you may be going sideways to jump off a Luke Jackson who's dropping in cash with a poor roll now.

Trading Risks for Rookies

00:12:33
Speaker
So
00:12:34
Speaker
Yeah, that's one thing to bear in mind. Yeah, well, let's do that then. We'll jump into that now. Good segue in terms of the rookie targets this week. So there's a few that have popped their head up that are sort of in that 200K or 300 and under price range. The first one, Darcy Jones, so 234K break even of negative seven. He was fantastic on the weekend, but GWS
00:12:59
Speaker
Clearly in the hunt for a flag, they've got Toby Green, they've got Brent Daniels, they've got Steven Canelio and Sam Taylor all on the horizon to come back. Now, Sam Taylor's clearly plays a different role, but that's for best 22 players and not even best 22, I'd say sort of best 10 players in their side.
00:13:20
Speaker
You'd really want to be confident that you're going to get a good three, four, five week block out of Darcy Jones to really be viable. Otherwise, you're going to get another red dot who hasn't really made enough cash. You've got Riley Hardiman, 253K break even nine playing for North. Yeah, he's got the good matchup against St Kilda this week. But are they really going to give him consistent games? Who knows with North? We've seen them swing the magnets over and over. Don't really have any confidence there.
00:13:46
Speaker
Jake Rogers, 280k playing for the Gold Coast. Small forward looked pretty good on the weekend, but small forward impact player. Games coming up in Darwin. Do you really want to pay up 280k for that? I'm not too sure. Tajwa Woden looked pretty good. For Melbourne, 250k with a break even of zero, but he's been in and out of the vest all year. So what's really going to suggest that that changes if he has a down game?
00:14:12
Speaker
Uh, you've got Lachie Sullivan who's been named for Collingwood, but that's off the back of de Goey and Tom Mitchell, um, both being out this week. So is he one in, one out? I'm not too sure. Mature age, 87 average in the VFL. So it looks like an okay scorer, but, uh, can't have any job security there. And I suppose the one that we really need to talk about is Dan Curtin Hami. So 279 K average of 78 in the sample. Is he the one that if he, if he plays a good game, he can potentially hold his side in that Adelaide team. That's not tracking too well.
00:14:42
Speaker
Yeah, he's probably the one that I'm most keen on, Holmes.

Player Roles & Potential Trades

00:14:45
Speaker
But let's just have a quick look at what you've said there. Darcy Jones, one game. Riley Hardeman, one game. Jake Rogers, two games. Tajbo Woden, what, five games of which three have been in the vest.
00:14:58
Speaker
Mike Sullivan hasn't played. Dan Curtin hasn't played. Doesn't leave you with a whole lot of faith in what they're going to do. But look, the trade scenarios I've been flicking around have really been Dan Curtin. I think that he's the one who we've been looking forward to seeing out there.
00:15:18
Speaker
He's not sure what he averages. He's probably not going to be in on field position, potentially 60, maybe 55. But he's going to, he should have good job security in that Adelaide backline. And yeah, and they are going to want to treat him well because they will want him to sign a contracting extension and stay in Adelaide.
00:15:41
Speaker
Stevie, what's your opinion on a Dan Curtin? Has Port Adelaide this week? You'd have to lock that trade in pretty early in the week. Do you think he's someone we have to wait on and say he does come out and score a 55-60 and looks all right and all of a sudden he's 300K? Would you be happy to jump into it next week or is it sort of, you know, now or never because he's at that elevated price? Yeah, I mean, it really depends what role you think he's going to get. Is he going to be playing tight or is he going to be playing free? You'd have to hope that he was playing free.
00:16:11
Speaker
I struggle to have confidence with it personally, a player like that. That's just, they tend to be the player I steer away from, unless you're really confident that they're going to be that third man floating free and being able to take sort of seven marks to sort of build a good score. Because I just struggle to see it otherwise.
00:16:33
Speaker
Yeah, I suppose looking at the back line here for Adelaide. So you've got Butts and Keene who are probably going to be the lockdowns, even though Keene has sort of been used as that outlet kick. That's early on in the season anyway. McElhaney did a lot of the lockdown stuff last year, but as he kind of evolved into someone they want to use the footy a little bit more of, and Curtin takes that role as the young player, I'm not too sure. And Brody

Concerns Over Player Form & Health

00:16:56
Speaker
Smith and Worrell have been used a little bit for their run as well.
00:17:01
Speaker
are out, it's pretty hard to know without seeing it. Personally, I think it would be a little bit risky to trade into in blind this week, Hami. Look, what's the bet with sitting here in six weeks' time and the only one that's popped is Lucky Sullivan from the VFL in Collingwood. It's a bit of a gamble, isn't it? It's a bit of guesswork in it.
00:17:22
Speaker
Yeah, well, I think he's the perfect one to sit and wait and watch. And if he has a good game and then manages to hold his spot once to go in and Tom Mitchell come back, then you can launch into it. But we've seen what they've done with Finn McRae this year. Harvey Harrison played last week. Whether he's in and out, I'm not too sure. But yeah, I think you've got to watch there. So, Hami, you're right. Stevie, what are you looking to do with your sort of trades this week? Are you looking to go traditionally one up, one down with one of these rookies, or are you looking to get creative?
00:17:50
Speaker
No, I'm looking to do a one up, one down and I'm probably more okay with Hardiman. I want to see teams obviously first. But I mean, they're talking about moving Sheezel out. Well, if they're going to do it, they need to do it.
00:18:07
Speaker
Zach Fisher's contract might end up looking like Rory Atkins, but I'm also maybe okay with Jake Rogers. Like we mentioned that like it's not a great role, but he did push up the ground. Players in that Hardwick system at Richmond would push up and get back. And the other thing about those Darwin conditions and even what you'd probably expect on Sunday night in the Q clash is it's going to be greasy.
00:18:35
Speaker
Can Rogers get there with tackles as well? That's going to be a question. Like if you could lay five tackles, that's going to go a long way to building a half decent score. And I'd imagine he's going to have reasonable job security. Ben Long kicked five goals the week they needed a small forward to kick up and didn't get a sniff. And he got Bailey Humphrey probably missing this week as well. We'll wait and see there.
00:19:00
Speaker
Yeah, I tell you what, those Gold Coast Sun VFL players absolutely rack in the twos. I don't know what it is about that system, but some of the numbers they put up are stupid. Yeah, Steve, you don't mind it. Personally, I'm not sure I could pay 280K for him, but if you're strapped for options, I don't hate it. I think if I did have to pick one out of all of them, it would be harder than just backing in that the Roos are going to just give him a string of games for his development and
00:19:26
Speaker
And she's does go into the midfield. I think they talked about that again today and I think they can't really put that off any longer.

Game Time & Role Debates

00:19:31
Speaker
I don't think it serves them too much getting belted each week and she's just racking it up in defense. Moving on now, let's talk about some of the other issues of the week and I want to steer it into the St Kilda direction, Hami. So you've got Jack Steele. I've got Steele and Marshall.
00:19:51
Speaker
With that, neither of them changed during the week. It was reported they're both in doubt. There's no confirmation yet, but clearly both of them are underdone. We always say at this time during upgrade season that you need to hold your premiums and need to back them in.
00:20:05
Speaker
Is there a case if you're talking about not having any confidence of the rookies that you look to get creative with one of these two and potentially go a jack still down to someone like maybe a Darcy Parrish to make 150K and look to spend the cash elsewhere? Do you go even further to a Cam Guthrie? I know it sounds disgusting, but do we need to get creative and back in that these injuries are quite serious and these players aren't what they were?
00:20:30
Speaker
Well, I'll talk about Jack Steele because there's some more keeping an eye on that one because I have him, as you say, Holmesy. But the thing is, he was a test last week. He was on a modified program last week. He missed a training session on a Tuesday, just gone. Well, so what?
00:20:48
Speaker
He's still got plenty of time to prove his fitness for the game on the weekend. I think that I'm expecting him to be named and I'm expecting myself to hold. So I'll put it that way. But yeah, look, all that strapping on the knee and the way he was moving on the field. It is a little bit concerning, but given where we are in the season, I think I've got bigger headaches to try and resolve, mate.

Injury Impact on Players & Advice

00:21:15
Speaker
Marshall yeah that was really early on that first quarter too wasn't it and he went down the race he's on about three points and i thought oh
00:21:23
Speaker
There's a chance that some coaches get a real bullet there, but he played it out. So I'm not sure how serious it is. Probably, Holmes, what would be more concerning for you is if they have somebody else spending more time as that pitch hit in the ruck at a Jack Hayes, or I'm not sure, well, Mitch Owens is there. Yeah, it's his second fiddle in the ruck, isn't he?
00:21:53
Speaker
Yeah, I'm not sure where that's headed, but I'm less concerned about steel, we'll put it that way. I think the decision might be made a little bit easier at selection if they do decide to maybe bring in Tom Campbell and play Marsh a little bit more forward. Maybe it depends on whether or not Max King gets up again. But yeah, it's something I'm looking at, thinking about jumping off him just with everything going on.
00:22:17
Speaker
I mean, they play North Melbourne this week, but there's every chance if they do manage to be up by a considerable amount going into the last quarter that Marshall just sits the last quarter on the bench anyway. And they sub him out, which would be a disaster at his price. He's already bleeding cash, but you don't lose money on him unless you sell. But he, I'm at a loss. I don't know what to do with him because he just looks a far cry at the moment from the player that he was. And clearly he's not playing right. Steve, do you have another opinion on Royal Marshall?
00:22:45
Speaker
Yeah, he's a tough one. Um, probably not someone I'm looking at buying.

Forward Players Trade Evaluation

00:22:50
Speaker
Um, you know, if this was draft, you'd be, you know, you'd be stuck. You'd just be stuck. Sorry. Um, unfortunately that's, that's how fantasy goes. I think sometimes, I mean, if you think he's playing injured, like let's say you bought Locky Neil at the start of the year, who's clearly hampered. Uh, and not, not putting out the scores you want. You just have to get off. I think.
00:23:14
Speaker
I know it sucks to do and you lose money and blah, blah, blah. But if that's how you feel about the player, then you just it's like you said, man, you don't lose money once you trade them. Yeah.
00:23:27
Speaker
It's just north. He's got the north matchup. It's the easiest matchup. Yeah. The ruck matchup's not that easy with Cherry, who's been a pretty dominant ruckman. But in terms of Marshalls, that extra midfielder, he's going to dine out on those north midfielders and those north defenders if he plays forward as well.
00:23:45
Speaker
It's just so tough. I am torn. I am torn because these types of moves getting off of Burt me in the past. But if he continues to go at 70, then he's going to find himself very cheap, very quickly. And either the whole comp is going to get on him when he starts to turn it around or he doesn't turn it around in your season stuck. So is it the play to get off him now while he's still got value? You can go a role in Marshall down to a Jordan sweet, which would allow me then to go a Dempsey up to any midfielder I want. It's just, yeah, it's just tricky.
00:24:15
Speaker
I think that it comes down to, um, teams. Sorry, because it's like, say you've got like Luke Jackson, you know, when Sean Darcy comes back, that he's not going to be the main rock. So you know, you have to make that move. I think, um, maybe you held off for the good match-ups, but with Marshall, if he's playing in that good role, you have to assume that he's going to score. Well, I would, I

Forward Line Strategy Debate

00:24:38
Speaker
would think so. That'd be the, that'd be the logic to keep him.
00:24:42
Speaker
But if they start bringing in a second ruck, then I think you can go, well, look, they're concerned about him from a team point of view. I'll do the same thing. Yeah, that's what I was going to say too. That's fair. So say teams, he's named as the ruck and there's no Hayes, no Campbell. Well, you know, you'd probably take some confidence from that, wouldn't you, Holmsey? It's really if they're bringing in another ruck that's an issue.
00:25:12
Speaker
Yeah, and it's a must-win game for them. They've been horrendously out of form. The cynic in me says that they might sub him if they're up, but the other part of me says that they need a really good win. They can't really afford to take the foot off the throat because they just need to win themselves back into form.
00:25:30
Speaker
Hopefully this is the week to do it against North Melbourne. But we'll steer away from that now. Connor Rosie was the other bullet that I had, but the other talking point throughout the week. So subbed out halfway through that third quarter with what seemed to be like a small hammy, only for them to come out a couple of days later and say he's a test and he was running and they've cleared him to play. So I suppose the positive thing is that he plays Thursday night, which means we'll know an hour before the first game if we need to adjust.
00:25:58
Speaker
At the moment, it looks like coaches have got off with something there that Conor Rosie might get up and get up and play. I might be a little bit worried about the role that he plays. If he does get up, maybe he spends a little bit more time forward, especially with Ollie Wines and Willem Drew and Zach Butters, the guys I've got going through there. But at the moment, Conor Rosie is good to go. But I would probably suggest to coaches that just have a trade plan up your sleeve or know what rookie is going to come on if he is a laid out because you're only going to have
00:26:28
Speaker
an hour pretty much after teams to really adjust there. So that would be my advice. Harm you. Let's talk about some forwards now. So I'm going to throw you three forwards and I want you to sort of talk about any, any interesting things or any opinions you have on them, as some coaches might be looking to go up in the forward line this week. So we've got Jack McRae, Joe Caldwell, and Dylan Moore. So Dylan Moore,

Role Analysis & Scoring Potential

00:26:51
Speaker
the cheapest of the three, off the back of two pretty, pretty good scores, but we have seen him
00:26:56
Speaker
have a few floor scores this year playing for Hawthorn. So that might be a bit of a concern. Jack McRae was a hard watch on the weekend, but once again, back-to-back good scores. And then Jai Caldwell had a bit of a smaller one on the weekend, but still played an okay game and has been scoring pretty well. So do you have any confidence into trading into any of these three this week and can you recommend it? I have definitely looked at McRae and more.
00:27:26
Speaker
with Caldwell, I mean, he may come out and prove me wrong this week, but I always had concerns around his role in the team going forward.
00:27:36
Speaker
particularly with your set of field, your deal in shield types, potentially coming back into the side. Archie Perkins, Parrish hasn't been playing as high proportion to CBAs as what he normally does. And so I really, I just don't feel as though he's going to be your 100 scoring player because we're buying these guys at about 90. So, you know, I think that,
00:28:04
Speaker
Yeah, you're going to want to get him close to 100, aren't you? Dylan Moore, I think he's gone like a 114 and 90 something and a 49 in his last three off the top of my head. I do say that because I've looked at him. I guess my concerns around him is he's not really playing much of a midfield role and the Hawks stink.

Trading for Changing Roles

00:28:25
Speaker
Hardly any of them can get a decent score. So while I am sort of interested in Dylan Moore and he's down on his starting price, which is great, indicates that he's got upside. I'm just not too sure how he's going to go with the Hawks there.
00:28:41
Speaker
So if I was going to bring in one and I had a choice of any of them, it would probably be McRae. Even with Libba coming back in, I think that Libba takes Ed Richards. I think that Reg Richards thing was just to plug a gap. And the role that McRae is playing, he could very well play for the rest of the season and score somewhere between 90 and 100. So he's probably the one I'm most keen out of the three he gave me there, Holmsey.
00:29:10
Speaker
So, Hami, you said that you're looking to potentially buy one of these players this week. Are you looking to go one down, one up from a rookie to get one off in the forward line? Are you looking to potentially get off a Tom Powell? What are you thinking there?
00:29:22
Speaker
Yeah, maybe. Hold on, I can just answer that for you pretty easily because I saved a couple of these trade scenarios. No, it was more like cashing out a rookie like a cadmene and getting Ollie Dempsey up to McCray top. That was the sort of theory with me earlier in the week.
00:29:43
Speaker
Stevie, what are your thoughts on Tom Powell? Are you looking to give it one more or you're just once again, just waiting for teams and if Phillips and Simpkin are named, you're going to abort or if Phillips is out, you're happy to give him another one? Yeah, I'm probably you'll wait and see. I'm not a Will Phillips truther. I suspect Tom Powell will get another crack and I'm kind of happy just to wear crappy scores in the forward line at this point. I'd rather just complete the mids and defenders and just be like, well,
00:30:12
Speaker
If I get a 60, I get a 60, I understand it's losing money, but I'd rather just go with a bit more certainty. Doesn't seem like any of these forwards are going to break out to be something great. I agree with Harmony, with his guys, with his choice that McCray is probably the choice, but does it seem like he's going to go string a whole bunch of 120s together? Doesn't seem like it.

Ruck Role Value Discussion

00:30:34
Speaker
Yeah. He has Hawthorne this week, which seems like a good matchup, but it was actually the Hawks game last year where he had a 45 uninjured. So it's interesting. I'd rather, like, if you, if you, like the way I was thinking about it is if we do it this way, maybe more, maybe more clarity appears in a couple of weeks. Yep. Yeah. I agree with that. You've, you've got some of the Richmond mids returning, although Hopper got injured again, but you've got Prestia and
00:31:01
Speaker
and that coming back in the next week. So maybe you get another look at a baker or a Bolton to see how their role in the team lines up another week to see if Zorko returns straight back to that defensive role or whether he's forward. Not sure you could be trading into that blindly this week or potentially knowing that he could go forward at any time. But yeah, there's still so many questions around the forwards that maybe you're right, Stevie, maybe you are. We need to just hold off for a little bit so we get a little bit more clarity there. Hami, would you agree?
00:31:30
Speaker
Well, it depends what you need to do with your trades this week and what you feel your biggest issue in your team is. So maybe not. There may be teams out there that need to bring in a sort of more premium forward and looking at these guys. And maybe, Holmes, this is where I end up and I'm just going to go look Jackson and Tom Powell out for Dylan Moore and Jack McRae.
00:31:57
Speaker
Yeah, I hope they're upgrades and it doesn't just flip, but yeah, it's pretty challenging. Hami, I'm going to stick with you being the Bombers man. Darcy Parrish, is the price right? Can we see him starting to push back towards his 107 numbers that he's done the last couple of years out of the last three?
00:32:15
Speaker
Do you think with the way Essendon are playing now, with the way they're throwing more bodies through the midfield, Merritt, Stringer, Caldwell, Setterfield and Perkins when he comes back, is it a case now where they're happy to share the load and they don't want him being that 80%, 85% time on ground CBA guy? Well, the first question you said, is the price right? The price is pretty good.

Trade Value & Timing Strategies

00:32:38
Speaker
I mean, he's low, 800s isn't he? I think
00:32:41
Speaker
Look it up. Yeah, 812. 812, there you go. And he's just popped a 107, I think, as well. Look, the thing is, as you say, there's more competition at the Bombers. And when him and Zach Merritt were both at the top of their fantasy game from a scoring perspective, as in the two kingpins in the Bombers midfield,
00:33:04
Speaker
It was your high 70s, 80% CBA role. And unfortunately for Darcy Parrish, now he's got his big contract. That's not what he's doing this year. He's only in there about 60% of the game. And it's certainly affecting his scoring because he's a guy that needs to accumulate possessions in order to put up a big fantasy score. And unfortunately, I don't feel like we can rely on that being 100 going forward.
00:33:32
Speaker
Well, it's at 8.12, so you're paying 95 to 100 for him at this point. So I think his potential, you're just going to get what you pay for there with him. They do have quite a nice run, the bomber's still coming up. Yeah.
00:33:48
Speaker
Yeah, I think you'd probably want to see that time on ground ticking up well north of 68%, but he's definitely someone I'm keeping an eye on just because of what he's done in the past, but I agree all the flags are there that he might not be that fantasy scorer for us anymore from a team perspective.
00:34:03
Speaker
Steve, I'm going to throw you another player, one of the most popular names in the preseason. It was always spoke about that after his buy, we were going to want to get on this player as his potential D1, D2. Nick Daikos, not really scoring like we would have hoped at the moment. I bought him on the weekend, 98 was good, but it's not the Nick Daikos we've been used to last year.
00:34:26
Speaker
Is it time to jump on Nick Daikos right now, or do you think there's better options and we can kind of wait maybe till next week for the Eagles or a bit longer? Yeah, it's a really funny one, actually. I've been meaning to bring him in the last two weeks myself, two weeks ago, I listened to the show and you said, this is the week to get Nick Daikos. Let's wait on Sam Walsh. And I thought, you beauty, I'm getting on Sam Walsh right now. That's the best thing I've ever heard. And then last week I had a look at the

Strategic Trade Decisions

00:34:54
Speaker
string of matchups report. So I went up to Butters.
00:34:57
Speaker
We probably should be. We probably should be getting on if you don't have him. And yet somehow I'm not looking at him. Isn't that bizarre?
00:35:07
Speaker
To be fair, the role has changed compared to at least the start of last year. So when he was putting up those monsters early in the year, he was more half back. He was getting a lot more cheap ball and he's not that player at the moment. He's only 50% CBA. So he is spending his time midfield and back, but they're not using him the same way that they were last year. It seems like they're happier to go through a few other players, run and gun.
00:35:34
Speaker
He's still getting his 25 to 30 touches, which is resulting in high 90s, low tons, but he's not really getting those ceiling scores at the moment due to a lack of marks. It kind of reminds me of a Sam Walsh in that way, where at the moment, the role they're playing for their team, they're really racking up and they're being damaging, but they're not necessarily going to put up monsters. I mean, Sam Walsh put up 145, but we haven't seen it since. Hami, Nick Daikos, what do you think? Is it time?
00:36:00
Speaker
Yeah, it probably is Tom. If you said you brought him in last week, Holmes, he couldn't hold that against you. This week he has Carlton, then he has West Coast and then Adelaide. So you could wait this week, but you'd be pretty keen to get him in for that West Coast and Adelaide games. And I think that Tom, it looks like Tom Mitchell and Jordan Gagli are both gonna be out this week. So I don't know if that just means he's the number one man in the midfield, but

Final Trade Thoughts & Insights

00:36:30
Speaker
all of those things are indicating that the time is pretty well now. That could actually work against him. If he's the only one in there and there's not worth putting any time into anyone, that means George Hewitt could just go to him and blanket him knowing that they don't have much else outside of a Pendlebury. So that could be a little bit concerning, but maybe they just swing him back into defence if he's getting a real hard tag. But yeah, definitely
00:36:55
Speaker
Whether it's this week or next week, it's the Eagles. I think he's one that we need to, we need to target. Last play up before we start to get into your targets, Hami, and move into the questions. Steve, I'm going to go to you here because we're talking pre-show and you weren't really keen, but Jordan Sweet, 440K. It seems like he's got this number one rock roll at Port Adelaide while Ivan Soldo's out with this knee injury. They've named it up as sort of three to five weeks.
00:37:22
Speaker
What are we thinking with Jordan Sweet? Is it, is it a case of going down from a cherry now that cherry's made most of his cash? Same with the Grundy or you're not looking at it at all? What should, what should coaches be doing here? Well, that's why I come to you guys. I think the answers from you guys. It's probably great for those people who started the three rocks, right? Like they, you know, everything fell in their lap.
00:37:45
Speaker
I'm probably not looking at it myself. I've just got other problems to fix. I guess it's a good play. One thing that's really funny is I saw people saying, oh, you shouldn't pick him up because Ivan Salter will come back. Well, what if Jordan Sweet plays really well? Why the hell does Ivan Salter walk straight back in? That's what I don't, you know, he could play well enough to keep the job.
00:38:09
Speaker
Yeah, it's got, I mean, Riley O'Brien did that same thing in 2018, whenever it was.

Listener Questions & Trade Evaluation

00:38:16
Speaker
He came in and who was the, I can't even, Sam Jacobs was the ruckman, I think at the time, the stalwart, and he played well enough to turf him out of the side. And that ended up being the competition winning pick, albeit he was a little bit cheaper than what we're having to pay for sweet at the moment. I think the timing lines up pretty well, I think.
00:38:33
Speaker
you know, say he's out for four weeks and then Port Adelaide have their buy coming up. Soto potentially comes back through the sample and then they have their buy and then maybe they look at it after that. So I think it definitely is a play. I think the one thing that is a little bit concerning for me, I put his numbers into the Moreira's magic price projector and I think I put in an 85 average for five weeks and I think that had his price topping out around that sort of 640 to 650K mark.
00:39:00
Speaker
which is still a big jump if you're going to try and get up to an English or a Gorn who you'd assume at that point of the year are going to be well north of a million. So you're going to have to still find a lot of cash to get up to the number one ruck at that point in time. And you don't really want to be caught in no man's land having to trade him out because soldos come back in and you can only get up to a, you know, another in between ruckman. So that's, that's my only flag. But Hami, what are you, what are you thinking with John Sweet? I'll give you my thoughts in a minute, Holmesy.
00:39:32
Speaker
Yeah, right. Thanks, Hami. This is a podcast. You do have to talk, mate. I'll fill in some time if you need some time, Hami.

Draft Prospects & Fantasy Viability

00:39:38
Speaker
I just wanted to say, on the downgrade options, don't be surprised if that should-o brain gets a gig. You got a new contract during the week, 200k forward. Archie probably missing a bit of time with the hand bone. Been playing half back as well. There you go. Hami, has that filled enough time for you, mate?
00:40:01
Speaker
Oh, yeah. Well, we might move into my trade targets here. You've asked me to prepare Hayholmsley because... Ah, here we go. Good segue. He knows what he's doing.
00:40:12
Speaker
And I'll give you my thoughts on some of the targets for the week. We spoke about being a five, but I've just got a six that I felt like I needed to mention. So I said earlier on that I brought in Jordan Dawson last week, but it was really a toss of the coin between him and Errol Goulden. So Errol Goulden sitting in at six for me on the trading targets.
00:40:41
Speaker
He's down 73,000 for the year. In his last three averages, 116. I think you don't have to cast your mind back too far to remember what sort of a fantasy scorer he can be at the back end of last year. He was just on a massive tear. So Errol, I think he's a pretty decent price at 942,000.
00:41:05
Speaker
Luke Parker coming back doesn't change anything for you. We saw it last year, but we didn't see Isaac Heaney full-time in the midfield. Not a concern?

Episode Wrap-Up & Future Games

00:41:12
Speaker
My feeling is that Parker will be more forward, but Errol hasn't been sitting as a key CBA contributor anyway. He usually plays out on that wing more often than not.
00:41:25
Speaker
At number five, I do have Dawson. I mean, he only went up 15,000 or so last week from what I bore him in at. And a bit of that was around the North Melbourne matchup. I thought he could score or so.
00:41:42
Speaker
Look, he actually hasn't failed too often this season. It was just that 62, I think, when he played forward that got a lot of media retention. And then that's what people think of. But I think that Dawson is he's just a great fantasy scorer, was in the Nifl VFL and now AFL. So he's down 58,000 from his starting price, got around 15 by, which is quite nice also.
00:42:12
Speaker
move on to number four, which is Caleb Sorong. Looking at the run, Freya have got Richmond, Sydney and St Kilda, so two good match ups there in the next three. He's down a little bit on his starting price, but he put up that 160 in round zero or round one.
00:42:33
Speaker
but I feel as though they have a good run coming up. He's the number one midfielder at Frio, I feel, these days, in there with, well, Young, Brayshaw and Fife, but he's the one, they seem to want the ball in his hands and he builds a better fantasy score than the others there. Number three,
00:42:58
Speaker
is somebody that I really like as a trading option, and that's Zack Butters. And let's have a look at him. He's about what he started out, so 21,000 up on his starting price, that favorable buy, the round 13 buy that Port and Freo have.
00:43:18
Speaker
Last three average of 109, but he's looked bloody amazing in some of those games. And he's got Adelaide Geelong and Hawthorne as his next three games. So they've still got a few at home and not a bad run. So I really like Butters and the Rosie injury. He's just another piece of the puzzle that makes me think that he's going to put on a good run over the next month or so.
00:43:45
Speaker
Number two I had is Tom Green. Believe it or not, like he started off quite well. And believe it or not, he's 56,000 down on his starting price. He comes in at 942,000 as around 12 by. So you'd have to bear that in mind. You wouldn't want to be loading up too many of them. However, I think that he's about to come into his own Tom Green and
00:44:13
Speaker
Yeah, he's sitting at number two for me. But number one, Holmes, the number one trade target of the week, I just can't see it being anybody but Jordan Sweet. You say that he's going to get up to six hundred and forty thousand over the next few weeks. Well, that's two hundred thousand dollars more than what he's priced at right now.
00:44:34
Speaker
When he was at Bulldogs in the VFL, he carved up in the sandfall, carved up. I just feel like he's going to be the number one ruck and we're all going to sit back at the buys and go, oh yeah, well we saw that happening, but it was a bit of a
00:44:52
Speaker
tricky spot to bring in another ruck, so we didn't do it. But in a spot earlier on in the pod where we spoke about the rookies being some questionable job security, this is a guy that's going to make money, score well, and I just feel like I'm going to try and find a way to bring him in, even though I don't really love it. It's not quite the right time of year, and it's a bit of a crap position being the ruck. But I feel like he's the number one target this week.
00:45:23
Speaker
All right, Hami, let's just unpack that a little bit really quickly before we get into the questions. Are you looking to go down from one of your ruckmen, which I assume would be Cherry, because you're not going to trade Max, or are you looking to potentially get him onto your bench at R3? Correct. And I don't want to put him on the bench because it'd be too much of a score or too much money to bring you to sit him there, in my opinion. I'm looking at Cherry down.
00:45:49
Speaker
Yeah, well, I think that is a sensible play if you're going to do it. Cherry has been unreal, but let's be honest, he was never really a keeper. He was just there to make money until you could get up to, or gone English. Marshall was in that conversation, but not in his current form. So yeah, I think anyone that has a Tristan Cherry, I think you'd be crazy not to at least explore that.
00:46:09
Speaker
and see what you can do on the other end because it's a lot of money made. And although you're losing Cherry, you're going to get a pretty significant upgrade on the other end from one of your rookies to one of those other targets, Hami. So I like that. And I can see Stevie Fizz's mind just turning, wondering how he's going to get John Sweet into his team now, Steve. Just such a sheep. Yeah, I don't know, man. This is a learning experience. That's why I'm here. I'm here to improve my process.
00:46:37
Speaker
Oh, you're laughing, but man, I've put in hours listening to the podcasts this year, so I'm trying my best this year.
00:46:44
Speaker
Yeah, nah, I love that from you. I'm enjoying it. I love that from you, mate. I haven't been enjoying it, but thanks. Well, I was looking, I was thinking, as soon as he said it, I'm like, well, hell, do I trade down a Zach Williams to put him on my bench? What do I do here? That seems almost, I mean, I guess it makes sense, but it feels hard to trade someone down rather than trade, trading him up. I guess,
00:47:10
Speaker
In essence, you're trading, it's a one down and you move up somewhere else, but it just feels a little bit wrong, I guess, if that makes sense. Yeah, that's the point from getting him on the bench at R3 as well. That's a lot of cash to be sat on your bench, and that's a week this week. If you're going a Zach Williams down, well, you're only really going to make
00:47:30
Speaker
What's that 100K from that, which you're not really going to be able to upgrade really on field unless you've got a little bit of cash in the bank. And then even then you're not really upgrading a rookie to anyone substantial. You're only really going to maybe upgrade a bonner or one of your other mid prices, which, you know, is that the week to do it? So the R3 move is quite risky.
00:47:50
Speaker
Well, I was thinking the only players you can, like, I was thinking there's players I need to upgrade, like, can Matt Crouch go up to a captainable player, like a Josh Dunkley, or can Brody Grundy or Cherry go up to a Tim English sort of player? Yeah, actually, I don't hate that. That's Matt Crouch. We didn't really
00:48:12
Speaker
we didn't really touch on. He saved his score late with that 80, didn't he? And he has poured out ladies. He's kind of lost the role a little bit now with those young guys going through. Don't hate that.
00:48:22
Speaker
Could you get Grundy up to Tim English? He's right for the picking this week. We didn't really talk about him, but off the back of back-to-back 130s, he seems like he's back in form with a pretty soft matchup and good run to come. So yeah, maybe it is a case of finding enough money from a downgrade to get sweet onto R3 and then upgrading a Grundy. I don't hate that, Hami. Would you tick that off?
00:48:45
Speaker
Yeah, look, if I was going to do that, let's just use your Zach Williams example there, Steve. So try and get Zach Williams into the utility. We'll swap him out for sweet, put sweet to R3, and we'll put the emergency on him. And we'll just wait and see. And that might make a decision for you if you could afford to do that. And then you might flip out your R2 if he does score well. But I mean, looking at last week,
00:49:14
Speaker
Charlie Dixon was the backup rack. Um, right. Oh, that worries. And who did they bring in this week? They've brought in teams already named Roy Burton, Jed McKinsey, um, and a leer leer out. So they're backing him in. I just, I just can't see a world where he, um, scores under like 80 for the next month.
00:49:40
Speaker
Yeah, they've got those early matchups this week and next week as well. So you could loop him, I guess.
00:49:47
Speaker
Yeah. Rate that from Ihame. Good, good chat. And that was definitely worth the wait. All right. We'll smash through some of these questions before we finish off. And Ninja Spoon, your boy, Stevie Fizz, he's asked, Grundy to English or sweet? So this is the, this is the conversation. If you are looking to jump off a Grundy, do you go down to a sweet and try and make that cash or do you go across to an English who is right for the picking and is another captain option really?
00:50:19
Speaker
You're asking me? I've got no idea, man. I'm listening to Hami on this one. All right. So I'll throw questions to Hami and myself. Steve, if you want to sign off, that's fantastic. Hami? Yeah, it just depends where your team is at. It could be either, to be fair. I think English is getting to a reasonable price point himself, but I'm still in the mindset of trying to generate cash. And that's where I spoke to earlier that I would lean towards, sweet,
00:50:51
Speaker
Yep. Rate that. Here's something you're good at, Stevie Fizz. Ranking. Can you please rank these six players? Sorong, Golden Budders, Walsh, Miller, Bond. So if you need to look at the show doc, they're right there for you.
00:51:07
Speaker
Yeah, that's a tough one. I think Mill is probably at the bottom, unfortunately. Yeah, I agree there, just because of roll. Just because of roll. Yeah. I think, I think Golden's fifth. I'm not as, I haven't been hot on him all year and I think that's sort of bearing out.
00:51:32
Speaker
I'll put Walsh, 4th, Bont, 3rd, Butters, 2nd and Sorong, 1st. So I've done it the wrong way around, but.
00:51:45
Speaker
That's right. Hami, you've got Bond. Is he someone that we should absolutely look to buy into hoping that he's going to turn it around? What was really concerning on the weekend is when the game was on the line, he sat seven minutes on the bench in that last quarter. That's not a Bond thing. He missed that goal. Clearly he's not playing as much midfield as he has in the past. Do we have to wait to hear confirmation to hear that he's not playing sore or
00:52:09
Speaker
Do you just back it in? I mean, Dawson was the same two weeks ago and he just went bang, bang. We know Bont can play, but would you have confidence trading into him? Well, I wouldn't be trading into him right now. And it's a bit of a regretful decision to have started with him in round one. But yeah, I won't be trading out of him, but I wouldn't be trading into him. We'll put it that way. I think that there's just
00:52:36
Speaker
There's a bit of uncertainty in that Bulldogs team. You know, we all say it, but you've got to think about it as a player and a leader in that footy team, it would have to be affecting them in some way. So I'm not too sure what's going on. There's periods of games where he looks unstoppable, but there's periods of the game where he looks a bit out of it. So I'll just be holding as a bit of a watch at the moment as a non-owner.
00:53:04
Speaker
Yeah, it's funny, isn't it? Because he's had that year last year where he really broke out and was second highest averaging player in the comp at 118 or whatever it was. But outside of that, he's never been more than a 105 guy and that's where he sits at the moment. So are we just seeing Bont regress more to the mean of where he's been for more of his career or is he playing sore? It's hard to tell. I think he's someone I'm definitely looking at, but I think I'd probably want to see it turn around before I do it. But in saying that,
00:53:31
Speaker
if he goes 150 against Hawks this week and you miss that and all of a sudden you can't get to him, then it's a bit of a tough one. So not sure we've really helped there with Bont, but I'm still looking at it. He's got plenty of upside, right? He scored 149 a couple of weeks ago. He will be on the improve through the, you know, back half of the year.
00:53:54
Speaker
Yeah, yeah, agree there. Uh, Nick Papadottos, uh, what is the ideal buy structure this year? Um, he's, he's got his question here. I'm just going to mention it that we, we still plan to have Stata one in the next, hopefully sometime in the next couple of weeks to, to give his buy around.
00:54:10
Speaker
spiel. So that'll be a two hour podcast, absolutely riveting listening. So make sure you listen to that. But we will definitely have a buy around focus coming up to really dive into the nitty gritty of how to attack the buy arounds. But Stevie, we were talking about this guy early as someone you're looking to bring in. Do we think Bailey Dale is a legit option to get us through his buy?
00:54:34
Speaker
I do. I do. Just the price is right. The scores are massive. I know you mentioned Ed Richards has been shunted into cover in the midfield, but just there's still good matchups. You're still under priced. You're still value. You're probably still hunting for value.
00:54:54
Speaker
Yeah, just on the day homes you just easing that price point is about 750 something when you spoke earlier about more McCray and one other sorry skips my mind, but
00:55:08
Speaker
I was more looking at a DPP move to try and bring in Bailey Dale, which I could do through a few other things because I think he's a better pick in that price packet than those forwards. He's still got that 14 and he's rolling average at the moment, which will move out at some point. But the guy's put up 160 and a 134 or something in the last two weeks. I mean, he's got a massive ceiling. Yeah, I think he's probably a good target.
00:55:38
Speaker
Yeah, I think he is. The one thing that just worries about him for me is, yes, he's 756K and that's cheap on what we've got available this year, but he's still priced at 87 and he's never really been. I think he's topped out at a 92 average and yes, he can have a career year. But that would just worry me that he sort of, you know, he's had a few good games off the back of that sub. Ed Richards comes back and then all of a sudden there's competition football again and he goes back to being that high 80s, mid 90s guy and you've kind of burnt a trade.
00:56:08
Speaker
The upside's definitely there. I brought him in in supercoach the other day. Dos would be proud of me, so I can't really knock the pick too much. That would be my only flag, is that he's not super underpriced, even though he's cheap compared to some of the other defenders that we have on offer.
00:56:24
Speaker
Hami, I've got this one from Micah. He's got two trade options here. I want you to tell me which trade you prefer. So his first option is a cherry-slash-pow down to sweet, which gets him Zach Williams up to Tom Green. So looking at that mid-pricer down to get another mid-pricer up or more of a traditional Williams down to Jones-slash-woe-woted and then sharp up to green. So I think I know where you're going to go, but just let him know what you're thinking.
00:56:48
Speaker
Cherry or pie are powered down to sweet and then Williams to green. That's pretty good. Or Williams to Jones and then sharp to green. Don't know. They're both trade scenarios that I've sort of been looking at. Williams and sharp out, green and woe-woden in or
00:57:15
Speaker
William's power, well, that's more than mid price route, isn't it? Geez, I don't know, mate. That's a tough one. More traditionally, you'd go the second option and cash out sharp, get your sharp out up to a premium player in green, but yeah, I'm not sure you all are actually.
00:57:35
Speaker
I personally, I think I'd be going option one purely because of what you spoke about, Hami, with the rookie. So if you go with Jones slash WoWoden and they're back in the sub best next week or dropped, then you just got another red dot. Yeah, you've got your upgrade, but that money's gone where, yes, it kind of sucks that you're going down from a pal or a cherry down to a sweet, but at least you know you've got three to five weeks.
00:57:57
Speaker
of a number one ruck who has shown an ability to score and you're still getting green on the other end. So I think that's where I'd go and I'd wait to see what rookies we have available next week or give these other ones another week just to solidify their spot in the side. But yeah, you are right. The second option is more traditionally what we have done in the past. Stevie, I am going to throw you one.
00:58:20
Speaker
Jase Burgoyne or Cam Guthrie, can we consider either of these players? I know probably both draft players, but is there, you know, Cam Guthrie, 777K? We didn't talk about the Dangerfield injury, so he's probably straight back into the midfield. Now he's got a game under his belt. Jase Burgoyne, he's had a couple of monster scores playing for Port Adelaide. Could we consider either of these players? They are your areas.
00:58:43
Speaker
Mate, I love Jase Burgoyne. I came in, we were talking about him as a classic option man, Faz last week, and I think he brought him in. They've got a good run for the wings. In terms of transition points, I think on Jaden Papowski's transition thing, we sort of looked at it from that point of view and it was a good run. I think Guthrie goes into the midfield where he's traditionally played low time on ground.
00:59:09
Speaker
So I'm not a massive wrap on Guthrie in this particular format of the game. I'd prefer Burgoyne. And I'm still still, yeah, I like Burgoyne. I don't know. It's a tough one because of his price point. But we're talking about Jordan Sweet. So I don't know. Maybe it's not. Is he still priced under 500,000? No, Jase Burgoyne. He is, isn't he? Nah, not anymore. He's breaking even like single digits too. I'm pretty sure he is. Maybe it was before this week. Hang on. I've got it.
00:59:39
Speaker
just keep paddin' out here, but I actually don't mind Jace Burglane, but he's pretty expensive now. Yeah, 553K, Hami, so he went up 65K this week, so it probably was the week to do it last week, unfortunately, but he seems to be taking that opportunity with both hands. Plays on that wing. We know wings can be pretty volatile, I think, this time last year.
01:00:01
Speaker
people were looking at a Chase Jones who put up a couple of good scores and he dropped back to his 30s and 40s, which is a real killer at that price. So you'd want to be pretty confident and I'm not sure you could be confident in the scoring there. Hami, would you consider trading out Roberts over Sharp with Sharp having a better matchup this week in the conditions in Sydney?
01:00:24
Speaker
Is there a world? Yeah, there is a world, but Roberts has scored over 80 the last two weeks, even though he battled to get there this week, just gone on. I'd be more keen on keeping Roberts because they have to be on field. But yeah, maybe if it makes a big difference to the player that you can get on the other side. Let's have a look, I think. Roberts is priced at $6.20, $6.30, I think. So he's about $6.00 more.
01:00:55
Speaker
Yes, that's right. That's what I was thinking it was. Yeah. So 60, if the 60K made a big difference to you, you could, but I'd be inclined to hold Robert some to his buy, which is round 12. Yeah, I suppose the thing there, if it gets you up to the guy that you really need and you can't get up to anyone you like from Sharp, I think you look at it. Robert's is still a rookie at the end of the day, but ideally you want to be holding him to milk a little bit more cash. I think you still got some to make.
01:01:24
Speaker
Steve, the last one for you, just because we're going back to your areas, Chloe wants to trade out Dempsey. She's considering McCray, but there's two names we haven't spoken about, Matt Kennedy at 680k or Fythe, your boy, Hammy. Do you still have him? I traded him after he sat on the bench for a whole bloody quarter one week. About around four, traded him out. Steve, could you look at either of those players?
01:01:49
Speaker
I don't know about Nat Fife, but I do know, I know everyone's talking about Matt Kennedy. We've been down this road. They're gonna get Cherrara back in. He's gonna lose that midfield role. They're gonna get McGovern back, so he's not gonna play defense. I don't trust him, man. I don't trust him. He's their Swiss Army knife. He can play every role and he plays them reasonably well. I suspect he goes forward once everyone's, once the cattle's back. So I'm not, I'm not,
01:02:17
Speaker
brave enough to go there. If people are and it works out, my hat's off to them. That's what I'll say. Yeah, I agree with that analysis. I've had him in the past as well. A bit like Liam Baker, they just throw him around where they need it. He can absolutely score in the right role, but he just doesn't have the right role all the time. But in a week forward line, 680K could be a calculated risk, but I'm not sure I could do it.
01:02:41
Speaker
Well, that, that's what I sort of say about like, just if you look at other, I know some people have to look at their forward line, but if you look at other areas of the ground, who's to say Oscar McInerney doesn't pull a string next week and you get four weeks of Darcy Fort? Who's to say, um, Essendon don't drop Todd Goldstein and Sam Draper's number one right. Like those things happen in footy. So I'd just, you know, the longer you can hold off on making a decision,
01:03:10
Speaker
on a player like Matt Kennedy or Nat 5 who you maybe don't want to or, you know, it could be Liam Baker, it could be whoever, then I think that's, you know, sometimes the best decision you don't make is the one you sort of wait on. Patience is virtue, boys. And on that, we will wrap it up there, Stevie Fizz. Thank you for those wise words. Really good to have you on and where can the listeners find you even though you hate new listeners?
01:03:37
Speaker
Yeah, they can't. Don't worry about it. He's not trying to sell draft kits anymore, so fuck off. Ami, can you give us some closing thoughts for the weekend? Oh, geez, I don't know. Yeah, well, we've got a Thursday night game. That's going to be cool. And I guess between that and the Friday, I'd suggest if you're like me and you've got a couple of red dots and you can try some loops and have a bit of fun, because that seems to be how the new modern fantasy coaches that are in the top 100 do it.
01:04:07
Speaker
Yeah, no, just be aware of what's coming in the back end of the weekend with your trades. Don't burn them early if you don't have to. But if you're like me and you like the idea of Jordan Sweet, maybe that's what you'll be doing tomorrow.
01:04:22
Speaker
Awesome, Hami. As always, thanks for listening, guys. Make sure you follow us at Pod Pod AFL over on X. Make sure to subscribe and leave us a rating and review on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And, yep, we'll be back here next week. Sometime. Who knows? We don't have a schedule anymore. We're doing this on the fly. But until then, farewell.