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The Pitt Season 1
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“I Love You. Thank You. I Forgive You. Please Forgive Me.”
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Humorous Rumors in the ER
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Speaker
Is it true? You have to be more specific. Are there rats in the ED? Apparently, if somebody already snitched. so Do you know how bad this looks? One more reason to shutter this place.
00:00:10
Speaker
Only the emergency department admits rats. The emergency department would never admit rats, unless they have the right insurance. Did you catch any of them? One, and I charged him for a full visit. I'm glad you think this is funny. I'm sorry that you don't. Did you call an exterminator?
00:00:23
Speaker
He's waiting on a second opinion. You were pushing your luck today. Don't worry, last I heard they were headed for the cafeteria, so they should be dead within the hour. ah I'll be here all week.
00:00:34
Speaker
Well, maybe not. I was in the bed. You were in the bed. You were in the bed. The bed. You were in the bed.
00:00:53
Speaker
So got to get in that pit, right? Oh, I've been digging this whole time. You can't see me, but i got a shovel here. I'm i'm
The Pit - A Cultural Phenomenon
00:01:01
Speaker
digging. It's really hard to dig a hole, but especially like inside ah where there's carpeting, but I'm working on it.
00:01:08
Speaker
Hey, it's okay. I understand you've been reading unproduced Richard Kelly scripts and you've just gotten a lot of interest and, you know, like whatever it takes for you to achieve your goals. You know, I support it.
00:01:23
Speaker
Oh, we're start with the pit. ah I mean, you you had been, you know, thumping the drum for for for this for a while. I mean, everyone online, like I i was having major FOMO like the last season, just seeing literally everybody. there was This felt different from other like...
00:01:41
Speaker
like appointment TV things where it was like, yeah, there'd be the HBO shows where a lot of people in the timeline or two, like, like maybe Secession or even during like peace right Game of Thrones, people would be like, oh, that's crazy. But this felt like literally everyone was watching The Pit. And I never watched yeah ER. r and My mom was big, was big on ER. I mean, I'm aware of its legacy and like all the, like people had basically like started the career, like gave us George Clooney, you know, it ah Yeah. Yeah. It gave us this guy named Noah Weil. Funny you should say. Yeah.
00:02:20
Speaker
I liked hearing Scott Aukerman did a bit where... Well, wasn't a bit because he just really did it. Like his co-host on Scott hasn't seen, ah was asking like if he had seen the pin. He's like, I actually got to watch like all 13, 15 seasons of yeah ER first. Like he was like, he's like, I know they, they abandoned it being an official spinoff, but some of it might be important. So he's, ah and he, he did it. He watched all the seasons and you would hear him checking in and, and, and and you would hear him progressively. mean, he,
Realism and Technical Accuracy in 'The Pit'
00:02:52
Speaker
sounding like that he regretted doing it because like it sounds like it get like like any network procedural that has that many episodes per season they're gonna start running they'll be like yeah they did another dr benson went to af africa again or something like again like they did another africa storyline
00:03:11
Speaker
ah Like yeah ER, r yeah ER r was an amazing show, but it it went on too long. Right. It did. Right. And when it comes to. John Leguizamo does surgery on a monkey at one point. I heard sounds pretty good. It's a great show. You got. eat Hey, have you you haven't watched ER ever yet?
00:03:28
Speaker
all Other than like ah over someone's shoulder like that when it's on. Okay. Well, I'll say because this is a perfect time to talk about, right? Just the differences between the two shows, right? Because the yeah ER r is certainly a more commercial, especially in the era, right? It was certainly like a like the the thing about the pit because it that takes this whole hour by hour, episode by episode structure, um it becomes this ah far more ah precise and ah technical ah showcase kind of focus show, where in yeah ER you can have these characters say these you know technical ah medical terms offhandedly to get to the emotional conversations in a more traditional television sense.
00:04:13
Speaker
It feels as though the pit, that's the content. It feels like part of the enjoyment of the show is trying to piece together these things based on the understanding that's revealing to the audience without dumbing down the language, which is really fascinating. And something to go back to what you were talking about before about like, you know, trying to watch the show or like, you know, experiences with watching the show.
00:04:33
Speaker
and you were calling out, you know, oh, I was on board with the pit early on. And I would say I agree with that statement, but then I would also push back slightly in the sense that, like, the show had 15 episodes on the first season. For me, when the show was airing the first time, I waited a long time because – notoriously I'm anti-TV. Like I don't watch a lot of television purposely. It's not my thing. And when I was hearing all of this praise, like usually my my whole thing is like I wait for the season to end, hear how people responded to it, then I watch it.
Character Development and Diversity
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Speaker
If it's that good. A lot of people don't know this, but like off mic, when I asked Tony if he wanted to do chair company, he like spat on the ground. He was like TV. Tim Robbins, you know, like who who is he? I don't care. you know, like i bet that's how I responded. um No, with with the pit, it was like it got to like the last couple episodes before it was finished. And I was like, you know what?
00:05:31
Speaker
I'm going to do it. and And like episode one, I'm sure you could speak to this as well. You know that the show is going to be so something special. the Yeah. The show starts out amazingly. and And the great thing about the show, too, is that like it starts that way.
00:05:45
Speaker
And it stays that way until the end. Because I was curious just knowing the structure, hourly structure of it. And I'd absorbed cultural osmosis like some plot points. So I did know some things going in. And we'll talk about how that kind of almost benefited my expectation, played against expectations about incoming storylines. But like, I was like, how are they going to maintain this? Are there going to be lulls? Like, will it be...
00:06:09
Speaker
will there be like one-off filler episode? Like it's, it's just one shift in, in this, you know, emergency room. And there's, there's patients in cases that come in you I guess don't overall add to like the oh big overarching like through line storylines, but nothing ever feels like it like disparate, like that. It's like just off in its own corner or like this doesn't matter. Like it all, it all feels like part of, part of the whole. And like you were saying, like the, the ER r comparison, I kind of got that impression that it was like, kind of like the melodrama and the relationships that it was kind of like,
00:06:51
Speaker
Kind of soapy, ah it seemed like. And and that the the medical stuff was almost treated like like sci-fi babble of like, you know, we'll just say some stuff. And then, you know, that that seems like... I mean, what I've seen when people post clips, like from a technical level, like the way they would shoot it, i was ah I'd always be impressed because it'd be like very long, like, one-ers of like involving lots of moving pieces and stuff. And that's ah in this too, because like there's lots of yeah very uninterrupted sequences where they're doing...
00:07:19
Speaker
Like, okay, we got to intubate someone. They're wheeling someone in and they're going start doing some surgery. And then we see a doctor walk away and then start doing like someone else gets wheeled in. And it's like, we'll be like a continuous thing. Like, it's pretty crazy. Like, on just on just like a technical level, what they what they achieve here. But then... In terms of the show itself, like there are emotional arcs, but it feels it does feel kind of organic. like When ah when Scott Arkham and finally got to the pit a couple of months later after watching all of all of the art, he he liked it, of course. But that he did he did make the the note of like where he's like, it's so much stuff happens that.
00:07:58
Speaker
It almost doesn't need to be a day like that that like you could stretch this out over like months or weeks. I get where he's coming from with that, but like I love the the you know the one shift ah conceit because, like yeah yes i well one, it does communicate...
00:08:18
Speaker
I mean, and just kind of tangentially from people I know who like do work in health care of like, yeah, I could believe that one shift would be this crazy, like not every shift, ah there but like that this much stuff would happen. The, the I guess, and not even suspend your disbelief, but the part that's like more dramatized would be like, that there are ongoing personal arcs through in one day. Cause like reality, they're probably too busy to have emotional ba breakthroughs, you know, like that. It's like, sure that the they don't, they're not going to have time for that because of all the shit they're dealing with. They just want to like finish the shift and go home.
00:08:56
Speaker
Uh, but, i I think it's all weaved together so well. um
Challenges and Humor in Healthcare
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Speaker
And yeah there's not really any character that I don't... like Like some shows that are big ensembles, when you cut to someone, they'll be like, ah sort do okay, let's give me a big... Like the good like storylines, but it's all interweaved so well that like there's no... Like down to like the nurses and like...
00:09:21
Speaker
these are all These are all my people. Like, i love them all. Like, even ah even like the very... I mean, because some of these characters are very flawed. even Even Dr. Robbie. Sometimes I'm tisking him in terms of, ah like, you're being a little overly judgmental, Robbie. You need to you slow your roll. But also, it humanizes these characters to make them flawed. and But also, to always...
00:09:48
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it It without being like overly glazing of like the profession. it sounds weird to so say about ah professional medicine of like, yeah, doctors. You can't be overly glazing. i don't likell I'll go on record saying that. I don't think you can glaze a doctor tuna ah too much.
00:10:05
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Unless they're doing malpractice, which we'll get into. who well we'll We'll get into. Yeah. But ah no, I get what you're saying because of like, it's literally like, yes, like there are legitimate criticisms of the health care industry and the business behind that. You know, it's every capitalism, it's for profit. Like in the show even does like is it's acknowledge that. That's what the show is about, technically, in my eyes. It acknowledges that. It yeah even has storylines where it's like they have to work around that because at the end of the day, it's showing them all as even though there's different levels of like you could say some characters are like maybe a little more used to how the system
00:10:47
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can can chew people and spit and spit them back back out in terms of that. But like they all at the end of the day just want to help people. So like they have to work around the system. Like like Robbie's almost seen it as depicted as like like a renegade cop in some ways because there'll be like, you know, the whole thing of the administrator that comes in is like, we got to get patient satisfaction up or i'm going to take away your badge and gun, Dr. Robbie. And he's like, fuck you. I'm going rogue. Bet I'm going to save so many lives right now. That's the way it kind of kind of comes across. Right. I wanted to go way back to something that you were saying earlier on, which was about this whole, ah you know, this idea of like all of these different patients who are coming in, you know, like this idea that, you know, ah the the structure of the show itself, actually, to get to further that. Right. Right. So the the way that the show is structured, this idea that like every episode is based around like three, four, maybe even five like new patients and then some recurring ones.
00:11:43
Speaker
I love this because what it does is you could, as ah in a TV writer sense, right, You can obviously incorporate all of the real world events that can happen with somebody who's going through different ailments. And obviously, because it's health, there are so many different kind of specifications for those things. And because like the average layman, they don't know much about health. They're not going to know when you're going to zig instead of zag. And even if you know about those things, those differences are so slight that, you know, it could go either way at any moment. That's the beauty of the show is that I can play within that ah realm of uncertainty because in many cases, ah health can be that sense, even for the people who are trying to
Patient Stories and Emotional Depth
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Speaker
figure that out. Right.
00:12:22
Speaker
Then ah to go further from like, you know, this whole like structuring out thing and what you're talking about people that, you know, who are within medical fields. And um to speak to my own perspective with people I know who are like that as well.
00:12:35
Speaker
ah This idea of like, you know, you go through so many patients within a day, right? this thing that keeps on happening within the pit, and which I love, and the fact that it saves us time to do this, it speaks to the character of the show.
00:12:50
Speaker
um I love because everyone matters like that. That's the thing. That's what I was getting at. Everybody matters. Like at no point do you feel as though the doctor is going to stop. ah Sorry. At no point do you feel as though the doctor is going to like look over a patient.
00:13:05
Speaker
They're never going to like, you know, not give them the time of day at no like there are no bad doctors in quotations. Right. in Right. In the sense that everybody who is in this show, who you're watching go through their job, everybody there wants to do the right thing. Even the people who are doing things incorrectly.
00:13:23
Speaker
Like even the ones who are learning, because yeah, it's a teaching hospital. So like we have every... And and I... Love the designation of like you have like your year two residents, your year three residents, which I've watched other medical shows before where you see that progression. But I feel like you can feel the delineation of like, yes, they've been through this a little more and they have a little more experience. But even the ones with more experience sometimes miss things that the students might like have an idea and pick up on. And even if they're being kind of bold or out of pocket where it's like,
00:13:58
Speaker
Maybe that that wasn't your place to like ah decide this thing, you know, like, like we'll get into Santos and how, you know, she just, she, she just goes for it a lot of the times, but then it'll be like, no, she was right. actually well Well, the whole thing, the ah whole idea of the show being called the pit and this whole, like, you know, this is where people come to learn and all that. Yeah.
00:14:21
Speaker
It comes from this idea that this is a trial by fire. It's not like, you know, a situation where these people are going to come to learn and there's going to be like, you know, considerate conversations about like what kind of artery blockages do what, you know, instead, this is a situation where it's like, okay, no, you've done enough learning and now you're here. And if you don't do well at your job, somebody is going to die. Right. Right.
00:14:43
Speaker
And it's beautifully rendered in the sense that not only do we get these glimpses into ah how people have these different kind of ailments and the different kind of consideration that can happen, the show often displays the... the moments where people can overlook ah what it could be, right? It could be a situation where they underestimate what something could be.
00:15:08
Speaker
And at no point does it frame that as them being ignorant or ah ill-informed. Instead, it's a situation where it's like, it could be an easy mistake, you know, and they're discovering it in the moment as well. Because they'll be following protocol and it'll be like something where it's like, no one would have guessed. This is not like something that was like evident. And so it's, yeah, like you said, like it's always on the side, like of the doctors and just medicine in terms of like, that's like there is procedure to it. And yeah, they might miss something, but that's not like, it's not malpractice, you know, like it's not like them, them fucking up.
00:15:47
Speaker
like Like speaking to a character like a Santos, right? Like ah I'm chomping at the bit because I love Santos. I mean, I feel like the best way is to go character by character. go Get out on the field, right?
00:15:59
Speaker
What's your favorite character? Who's your favorite character on the pit? Okay. So I have to, you know, pretend like I haven't seen any season two and we're just going out of season one. Oh, yeah. No, no, no. That's okay. And and and and multiple answers is okay in my books too, you know, because it's too hard.
00:16:15
Speaker
i was going to it's like... It's almost like a four-way tie between like between like Whitaker, it as far. mean, they're all friends. Yeah.
00:16:28
Speaker
and then was for mean they're all my friends um You don't want to say anything mean. They're so nice. know Yeah. Yeah. I mean, i love ah Fiona Doris with Dr. McKay, but then I was also like inching towards Langdon because like he has some great shit. You stole my fucking answer. Langdon's my number one.
00:16:52
Speaker
Langdon's hilarious. I i think Langdon's easily the funniest character. Easily. Easily. But just just the faces he makes, like, it helps that there's so many Stan accounts online. So, like, even so, I, i like, I slammed the fuck out. You know, first when I started watching, was like, I'm going to space this out. I'm not going to do a And then it's like two days later, I've watched all of it. so But it helps when yeah ah there's a bunch of ah Stan accounts on my timeline that will post like every moment, like just as a GIF. So I can see like like
Character Relationships and Dynamics
00:17:23
Speaker
little micro expressions from Langdon or like how he looks at one of the, like you just a little kill again, Whitaker or something. bottle of morphine.
00:17:35
Speaker
the The great thing about Langdon, like specifically from the conversation of, ah you know, fandom, right? Because obviously we got to talk about the fact that like the pit has this whole like baby girlification of like everybody on the show. Like literally like like everyone is shipped where it's like, it's like memes about Langdon impregnating like Whitaker or something. It'll be shit like that. It's it's nuts, right? But but I love the this kind of like approach to like a Langdon who is like a very troubled person who is going through like real demons. And like as a performer, he's playing it completely straight. You know, like there's no hints of irony there. Which makes it funnier. Yeah. exactly right but but my second favorite performer i only have two favorite people on the show though i do love everybody on the show gotta say melissa king dr melissa king she's queen in my heart you know every time she's on screen beater ah autistic adjacent self i i am losing it you know i am i am like
00:18:45
Speaker
like in the crowd, you know, like during a football game, you know, everyone's doing the wave. I'm, I'm doing the wave with her. I love Melissa King. Well, and I feel like if you like Langdon, like, it's almost like a package deal. Like, like like she's she's like his work wife, basically. of The one-sided work wife. Like, because Langdon's just, like, being, like, a chill dude, and she's like, I'm in love with you. He's supportive of her, but not in the way where he, like, will, you know, his whole attention will divert when he hears her name. You know, i like...
00:19:19
Speaker
What I love about the show so far, you know, separate from season two, wherever it goes, it feels like a one-sided Jim and Pam from The Office, right? Where, like, she sees herself being in, like, the dream relationship or something. And and Langdon is, like, so fucked up. He doesn't even know where he is. He's he's got a family, you know? Yeah. Yeah.
00:19:41
Speaker
It's like everything is wrong about him in terms of being. Santos last. Did you notice anything weird about Langdon? And King will be like, he's, for he was sweats a lot, which, and you know, is just like a random thing that she would notice by like the hyper focusing on him. But then that's like actually kind of it because it's like, yes. symptom withdraw So it's like, oh, fuck. That's actually, actually was important. Yeah. One of the first people you brought up was Whitaker. I wanted to like join in the praise of Whitaker. love Whitaker.
00:20:13
Speaker
ah Yeah, exactly. Yeah. Right. um Who online, the fandom just says that he's, um and which is like, he grew up on a farm. He's rural, but people will just call him Amish. Speaking of the the office, right? Like in a weird way, he's kind of the Dwight of the show. Right. And ah like more, a more charming Dwight. Yeah.
00:20:33
Speaker
Like he's got that like again to kind of go like the baby girlification of the show. Right. Like he's got like these like deer in the headlights kind of like that kind of look to him. Right. His eyes are always like shucks. You know.
00:20:45
Speaker
I hope I don't kill anybody. i just want to do it right. You know, like, and and and anytime he's in those kind of life or death situations, you're you're always on his side. You're always like, I want this guy to pull through. um and and to pull up one of my third favorites and somebody that we've already talked about a lot, I feel like we got to talk about it right now.
00:21:04
Speaker
Santos. Santos absolutely is amazing. i like ah Even though I'm technically putting her as my third, like she's still within like a very top percentile. Santos is like amazing. The actress who plays her, Issa Brionce, I don't know how to say it.
00:21:22
Speaker
She's great. Like, obviously, the whole cast game. But she's incredible. And not just, like, how crucial she is to, like, what the Langdon storyline goes. But she's kind of like a, ah like, Langdon to her is, like, almost like a potential, like, ghost of Christmas future. Like, that like did they they are very, they're very similar. Like, ah yeah not not saying. She's similar almost as a mentor, almost at points.
00:21:48
Speaker
Right. Which like makes some of the decisions she has to make even harder. You know, we'll get to when we talk about season two. It's interesting of like how Robbie reacts to the fallout of things in this season. And then it's like he kind of replaces Link in his mind of like who who he in Santos is kind of like that of like the successor almost. Yeah.
00:22:11
Speaker
And it's not to say that, like, she's not worthy of it, too, because, like, that's another thing that we've already said before. It's like we're not questioning the competency of these people all too often. Right. And and one of the things I love about. Langdon's a drug addict, but a great doctor. The never the show never. Oh, oh, oh.
00:22:26
Speaker
I couldn't wait to get into that. I'm sorry. If we're already into that, we gotta just get a crack into that now. We we just gotta get into it. I love the fact that he's a drug deal a drug addict. because we But the show never ever is like, yeah, he fucked up during any procedure because of this. like Yes, it's unethical that he took medicine from, you know, he has a benzo addiction. But the job done. But he's a fucking really good doctor. Yeah.
00:22:55
Speaker
He's crushing it. It's one of the best depictions of a drug addict in terms of like highly functioning ever seen. It's it's amazing the shit that he's able to do when he's on these painkillers. and And it's for that reason alone. It's for because because like Langdon, because like we've talked about how great Langdon is. But like I'm like, just give him drugs at that point. Because I'm like, maybe maybe it might be worse so if we take the drugs away. Maybe we should just keep giving him painkillers.
00:23:22
Speaker
Because, like, let's let's really analyze his behavior, right? Because, like, Dr. Langdon isn't, like, spacey. He isn't, like, inattentive. He isn't, like, you know, ah he isn't, like, missing things all too long. He's not, like, cold with patience. He's attentive. He has, like, a a decent bedside. man some Sometimes he'll, like, be snippy but in a way where you're on his side like when there's the the and the anti-mask ah people and he's and they have to operate on on someone in the family he's like do you want us to wear masks during the surgery or not you know he's like yeah He's being really cutty about it, but you love you're like, yeah, hell yeah. Roast, roast their ass, Langdon.
00:24:05
Speaker
but But it's when he's saying shit like that, that's why you know Noah Wiley's character loves him so much, right? Because that's shit that Noah Wiley would have done, right? Like that's the kind of passive aggressive shit that he's looking for in a good doctor, which makes the whole revelation sting all the worse. Right. um And ah to to, you know, go back to this whole Langdon thing and comparing it to Santos. Right. Because like Langdon obviously is, you know, being in a fantastic doctor under the influence. Right. And then comparing that to Santos, who is ah constantly on the show, ah shown as somebody who takes risks, ones that sometimes are often seen as hasty or like, ah you know, um almost ah like unempathetic. But then in the long run, she's proven to be right. And what I loved about Santos, especially watching the show as like close to when it was coming out, People really hated Santos.
00:24:59
Speaker
People were saying, like, Santos was, like, one of the worst characters. They were giving her, like, the Skylar treatment from Breaking Bad when the show was airing. there were i wonder if there's any connection there. Like, maybe massage D between fandoms. don't know.
00:25:14
Speaker
Interesting. Interesting. Oh, oh, oh no. A woman has an opinion and now all of a sudden she's an evil person.
00:25:24
Speaker
Because like, what is how it, like we were pointing out, like Langdon and Robbie do the same shit. Like they also do ah unorthodox things that ah like, it'll be like some sometimes someone from, from, from surgery comes down like, you're doing it this way. And Robbie's just like being like, yeah, I'm fucking going to MacGyver
Societal Issues and Healthcare
00:25:43
Speaker
this shit. Like I've, We don't have the first option to work or we don't have this option. So I just fucking just pulled the solution out my ass and it worked.
00:25:52
Speaker
Yeah. in In the words of the pre-Nazi Kanye West, who's going to stop me? Right. Like it's is a situation of like, you know, everybody in this yeah ah ER is in a life or death situation most of the time. Right. Right. It's the Sometimes.
00:26:09
Speaker
And there are people who will come in because they don't have any medical coverage. And this is their only way to like actually get like a family doctor visit. And and one of those ah situations where you talk about like the realism of the show and why it's important that this kind of show exists. um But when it comes to, ah you know, like these people who are coming in, you know, like you're getting people who, you know, have been, you know, maimed in ways that will kill them, you know, an artery is blocked in such a way that's very specific to the event that's transpired. And rather than like, you know, having to play things by the book rather than, you know,
00:26:46
Speaker
doing the medically sound way to do it. They have to do little tricks, you know, they have to, you know, find workarounds in the moment. And rather than it ever feeling like a contrived television moment, like a moment where like, oh, we need these things to happen because we care about these characters. Instead feels like organic situations where it's like, okay, here's X and here's y We're missing the solution. Okay, here's the solution.
00:27:10
Speaker
It feels like organic ingenuity. Like you you really feel like you're watching someone discover a solution in real time. And then it helps you peel back layers about these characters ah during some of these cases. Like, ah i mean, I guess I'll save it to when we're from. Let's stick with Langdon because there are some things with like other characters.
00:27:32
Speaker
ah cases and characters where it's like, oh, this actually informs you about their backstory. But in a not, it's in a kind of show don't tell way because they they could just be like, oh, you know, so and so was abused when they were younger. But you'd like, no, you see it happen through how they react to the cases that come through for them.
00:27:51
Speaker
and And building off of that exactly, right? Like the structure of the show is so brilliant because we ah are framing it around the patients, right? Rather than it being like a situation where it's like, oh, well, we know that this arc needs to be tidied up. ah We need to get back to this, right? Instead, it's always framed around like, okay, well, this patient... ah We thought they were okay, but then something went wrong. And that's why we're back here. And then in the moment that they're trying to figure that thing out, why this thing has gone wrong, that's when they're also having the conversation where that, you know, maybe two episodes ago, they're like, hey, remember when you did this thing and I didn't really appreciate that you did that? That's when they have that conversation rather than like, you know, within the episode, which, ah you know, it It definitely works really well for ah but binging if you're watching it through all the way. But then also from a week to week basis, this also really works because then it becomes like a distant memory, right?
00:28:50
Speaker
And you're like, oh oh, it just it just comes off as smart writing. You're like, this pays off. Like it's it's not it's that wasn't just incidental. And going further from that. Right. It also further leans in to the way that a doctor who is living through this day would perceive this event. Right. Where to them, right. Like as we've established, right. Like this happened an hour ago, two hours, three hours ago. But to them, they've saved like nine, 10, 18 lives since Right. So like to them, like, you know, their perception of time and the workload that's on their lap is so, you know, disproportionate.
00:29:25
Speaker
Right. To them, it's like, you know, they'd haven't even had the time to fully process that, let alone their own personal emotions and the way that they're working with all of these different people. and and And it's only because of the way that the show is structured that it's able to accomplish this kind of storytelling. Yeah.
00:29:42
Speaker
And like we've said before about like just it's kind of competency porn, just like watching them be so good at their jobs because most people live like most of their the like the the it's ah not that it's like constantly, you know, characters struggle and sometimes they don't.
00:30:01
Speaker
it Like the the struggles will so a lot of times be internal ones or so like more personal emotional ones where it's like, it's not like they're going to lose this patient, but they might be sending them back out into like an unsafe situation and they weren't able to successfully like...
00:30:20
Speaker
like actually intervene in their life because there's just a limit to what they can do, like legally, you know, like just like you do. They want to help everyone, not just like in terms of like their immediate health concerns. But it's like, oh, this looks like this is a bad situation. Let's try and help this person. And then they try. Sometimes it doesn't work. What I love about the show, too, is that, you know, obviously it's trying to be timely in the conversations it's trying to have, you know, like, um you know, it's been a while since I've seen the first season. So forgive me if I don't get some of the specifics wrong on some of these things that happen with the show. But obviously we're going to get like a mass casualty event that happens in the middle of the season, which is very timely with where America is at this current point.
00:31:04
Speaker
ah You get definitely people who are struggling with paying like you know, their regular bills or like, you know, trying to, you know, take on these kinds of things. You can get like a trans health, you know, like just like the the ways that like hospitals would approach these things. And as we've already seen. The way that storylines, let me just like comment on that one because I love how casually that's that's represented. Trying to remember what what she's originally in there for. ah Because like, yeah, binging them all at the same time, some of the things blend together. They blend together, yeah. yeah
00:31:37
Speaker
Yeah. So they they they help her with whatever her immediate concern is. But then isn' it is it Santos or is it King? Someone catches that there's like a misgendering on there. Like, I think it's King.
00:31:53
Speaker
i think it's King. I think it's King on on the on their, like, info, and she just, like, casually is just like, yeah, I saw that there it didn't line up on on your info, so I just changed that for you. And the way that she's kind of just like, wow, thank you. Like, there's generally, because, like, just knowing just from...
00:32:11
Speaker
trans friends and like that's such a huge thing it shouldn't be hard to get that shit like after you transition to get like your id to like reflect your actual identity now but it is hard way harder than it should be so the fact that you know someone took the time was like yeah they should just go on the computer and change that for you and like it's like wow it's just like that little gesture means so much though for her This show does such a fantastic job being a political show while while making ah the things that it's advocating for seem like common sense, right? Like, I feel like that's like the common theme that makes this show so special, right? Like, those those little moments are like what you just described, right?
00:32:55
Speaker
ah You know, in ah in a more hacky, you know, like cable television ah thing. Right. That's what the whole episode would be based around. Right. The whole episode would be based around that. And then the patient would have like they would all be crying at the end. Right. Like, oh, no one ever could do. And like explain out loud why it's such a big deal instead of it just being like.
00:33:17
Speaker
Oh, thank you. It's a thing that happens. Like this is ah let's let's even like, you know, make it as general as possible. This is a person who has come in for medical attention and they just want to like be treated as a person, you know, and this show at every point affords the basic decency and ah dignity that everybody deserves when they come in through those doors. Right. Because they understand that whether it's, you know, ah a CEO who sprained their ankle or a homeless person, you know, they all have the same problems, mortality. Right. And that isn't bound by, you know, ah political ideology or even intellect. Right. Or even, you know.
00:34:03
Speaker
gender expression, right? it' It all comes down to, you know, are you okay or are you not okay? And it's because of that Hippocratic oath, you know, do no harm and only put forth the ah well-being of others, right? It's this kind foot forward thing that is present within any medical field that not only the show can kind of take this progressive stance, but then also like examine these things that in, you know, a standard political context, people may call hard to talk about, you know, difficult conversations with people.
00:34:39
Speaker
People on both ends of the aisle with their own opinions. Like how is Snoop Dogg going to talk to his grandson about the lesbians who hold hands in the light year? He he doesn't he doesn't want to have that conversation. He doesn't even know where to begin. so I thought about how hard it is for Snoop Dogg.
00:34:58
Speaker
think when he was when he said that it wasn't it wasn't even homophobic. He was just like he literally just didn't want to talk to his grandson. He was just like I can't be bothered. ah Like okay so they're like he might be one of the only people alive where like being too high is a valid excuse.
00:35:17
Speaker
you know Yeah, you could be like, why did why did he perform at the Trump thing? You're like, i think he was just high, man. like Yeah, he just got a slide. He was just Snoop Dogg. He changed his name to Snoop Lion for a little bit. I think that's like, because it's like you can't OD on weed, but you kind of can in terms of food. Yeah, where you can like break your brain a little bit for a moment. You know, you're just like, are they okay? you know not Exactly. Yeah.
00:35:44
Speaker
But ah yeah yeah, bring it back to the pit a bit. um Like the the great thing about the show is that ah it's this judgment free zone and it makes ah it all seem like common sense and it's based in human empathy. And to kind of talk outside of the show a little bit, you know, there was ah a news article I saw the other day where they're talking, HBO was talking about how they wanted to do like a police version of the show. And to me that like,
00:36:10
Speaker
To me, that says that they have no understanding of what makes this show so good. Because if you were to do the pit... Woke cops. But, like, hold on. Like, even further from that, right? Like, if you were... Because, like, the pit, whether or not it's empathetic or not, you know, like...
00:36:27
Speaker
Obviously, it very much so is, but I'm just saying like it also is a very accurate representation of like what a hospital at least should be or like what the environment of that is. The ideal, because it's about healing. It's about helping people. But if you you can't... If you were to that with cops... Because cops, the ideal is...
00:36:48
Speaker
catching perps and incarcerating, they like prosecuting and charging them with something. So it's like, that's not the goal. Their function is not, regardless of what it says on their car, sometimes it's not to protect and serve, you know, like that's not their whole thing.
00:37:04
Speaker
No, like a cop, the pit would involve like a half season arc where they're just debating whether or not they should pin a crime on somebody who clearly didn't do it. That would be an accurate representation of what he's doing. Hold what lets Let's take it a step further. They know he's bad, but they also know that he didn't actually do the thing that they... i Oh, yeah. Right? Absolutely. He didn't do this one, but they're like, he's done. He raped a girl or something or something really bad. it we No, know no, no, no, no. Doug, Doug, it's less than that.
00:37:36
Speaker
He stole from like ah a gas station one time, you know? Yeah. Like something like that, you know, like minor, ah you know, money laundering, you know, like something stupid like that. And they're just like, got to kill them.
00:37:51
Speaker
yeah We got to kill them. Like, and it's really like the pit, right? Where they're really sad about it, right? Like they they have like a powwow where like the Langdon types just like, i don't know, like we we did all the right things, you know?
00:38:04
Speaker
We just got to kill them. Like you do that. It should be some of the same
Empathy and Personal Growth
00:38:09
Speaker
characters, too, who, like, are moonlighting in between their shit. They get off of the pit, and then they put on a police uniform, and then they're like, yeah, gotta sit around. Yeah, bring Dr. King over, too. I want to see her in this uniform. Yeah.
00:38:24
Speaker
Actually, my sister says that fentanyl. This has us a very emotional. I cried several times watching this season. I'm more i'm more of a sap.
00:38:37
Speaker
I'm more of a sap the older I get, I feel like. But like the the fentanyl overdose storyline, which on paper could be something I roll my eyes at because it's playing into like the fears of like suburban. Fentanyl.
00:38:53
Speaker
paired up like that it's like everywhere and it's going to kill you know like the whole thing of cops of being like if they're just in the vicinity of it it's going to kill a cop like it's like it's like kryptonite to them yeah but that blue stripe you know if they if fentanyl even gets a whiff of the thin blue line you know yeah game over Game over. but But this storyline is presented in such an empathetic way, in a way that doesn't really feel like like that it's like, you know, like propaganda or something. it just feels like like, yeah, that could happen. Like, it's just like a horrible tragedy of that someone but bought something. Like, it was like these kids were ah up studying and he got something... for It wasn't even for him. It was like for the friends. Like he wanted to get them something that could help them like come down and sleep after they'd been up like so after a long, long study session. But it had fentanyl in it. And she survives the OD. Like the friend that she survives the OD. But the the one guy who got it didn't. And well he he's brain dead. Right. Like ah and that whole thing is
00:40:01
Speaker
ah it And maybe some of it was the expectation of because the mother of the the brain dead kid is played by... I'm playing on this actress's name, but she was in ah Michael Flanagan's Midnight Mass as one of the most evil people. She's playing like a... Like that a show's not based off of Stephen King's story, but she's playing a a Stephen King villain. Like she's very much like the crazy religious lady from The Mist. So like she's she's like so evil and horrible and that. And then in this... She has moments where she pushes back, but from a very understandable human moment, like when they're like, oh, he was an organ donor. And she's like, no, he was too yeah young to make that decision. That's like, this is a mother grieving. like that it' not It's not like her being ignorant or like like ah like hateful in in that moment. like She just needs a little the time. And like they even reckon that they're like, okay, we'll leave you in like the family room and like circle back around like to to this because it's like... Yeah, these things happen so fast that you kind of like don't even have time to like I'm trying to imagine myself in the I'm probably never going to have kids, you know, ah like not just because I don't want them to overdose, but just like the idea of like that, that something like that. That's like the loss of that. Like there's a potential you could outlive your child is like such a horrible idea. It's like, course, yeah.
00:41:21
Speaker
um that's like that loss is played so genuinely. And, and I love the way the, the father plays a lot of those moments too, because he'll be on board with what the doctors are saying kind of immediately, like in terms of like the, like oh ah organ donor thing, but he'll kind of like give a look to the doctors of like, like, I'm sorry for my wife, but understand, like, it's just like a look of like, just like, I'll, you know, what, what,
00:41:51
Speaker
just check back on us in a little bit, kind of like, to like like just communicating almost purely with his eyes of like, yeah, just give us a little time. I agree. I'm on your side with this. Like, it's just like, in in the moment when they have like his classmates show up for like, as they like basically do a walkout with him, like when they, when they because they eventually, you know, agree to, you know, let him do the organ donation.
00:42:17
Speaker
Dr. Robbie has the moment of like, when it's like, think a lot, I speak for a lot of us here when i would say that like we would love to attend his his funeral. And that was one of the, I i think there might've been multiple moments during in the storyline that got me, but that one was like really got me. Cause then you see that in the father's eyes where he takes the beat and he's just like,
00:42:37
Speaker
ah Wow, yeah, of course. Like, he, like, be funny if he said no. He's like, no, you can't come to my son to be a bastard. You killed my son, you bad, red bastard.
00:42:51
Speaker
An eye for an eye. No, but it's just like like pure empathy, you know, like like that shit like really gets to me. I mean, yeah, it's it is is it like an idealistic vision of of the world where on both sides, it's not just like, yes, of course, the doctors want to help you, but the patients eventually coming to the right agreement and like and holding no resentment. ah But I think it bounces out because you do see the other side of patients or potential patients who do not
00:43:23
Speaker
ah come to the sensible conclusion or that resentment just builds in to a very violent way. I'm jump jumping around, but like when Dana gets assaulted by that one guy who is unfortunately named Doug, like it's really I was talking to Nick about this, about like Doug representation. of like Outside of the the cartoon Doug, it can be really iffy. like a lot of the times, there might be villainous. they might be like i think about...
00:43:51
Speaker
I unfortunately watched every season of House of Cards and Kevin Spacey's like main minion in that who it's funny when they had to kill him off of the show and then like Doug becomes like the Kevin Spacey threat surrogate like his Robin Robin Wright becomes president but he's kind of like representing the Spacey-esque threat and by Spacey-esque threat I mean he's like ah you know staging the suicide of of people who are alleging crimes against him. Christmas videos. Yeah. Let me be let frank. um The truth will come to
00:44:32
Speaker
Put that in the fucking Dick Tracy zooms in and you got the great things that exist. But yeah, this Doug is no good. And I do like that that's just the storyline. Like that he like you socks Dana, walks off. We do not see him again. And, you know, it's just so about like it's more about how Dana reacts to that. And while we're on the subject, fucking love Dana. She she rules. Yeah. they, Robbie correctly highlights her as like the glue. And basically, I think he even says like, we work for her basically. Like, that did she, because like, I feel like I'd ever see that dynamic of the charge nurse in other shows, or at least it depicted so clean of like, yeah, like you need someone to be organizing all of this shit or it would just be pure chaos and fall the shit. Like you can have your system that you put it in that like, you know, shows you that what patients are in what room, but like,
00:45:29
Speaker
who's, who's organizing all of it, you know, like you need someone to do that. This show is doing a lot of shorthand in terms of like allowing for us to understand who these people are in very short period time.
00:45:42
Speaker
Obviously it will do this, in you know, performance quirks or in writing, but the best thing ah I can say about Dana specifically is that she feels like a fucking waitress at a diner. She doesn't feel like a a nurse. She feels like somebody who's like keeping the cook on time and their servers on time. If she could, she would be smoking in the yeah ER r and be like, all right, we got an amputee over here. Someone got a gunshot wound and you got go over Hey, I don't care what your problems were before you came in. All I care about is how you come out. You know what i mean? Capisce. Get that. Forget about it. Yeah, that's the way she is at all points, you know, and and and, you know, obviously all these characters will have their own flaws, their own quirks, all those things.
00:46:25
Speaker
But ah similar to what you're saying about how she's the glue that holds these things together, as Noah Wiley's character says, you need to have somebody who's like no nonsense being like, we just have to move these people through. And whether or not it's a Dana or somebody else, you can tell that all these different characters need to step up or step down in those current moments to meet those moments. And actually on that note of like characters who have to like step up or step down, you know, all those different things. There's one, um, Victoria Javadi, you know, the one. Javadi! Javadi? Dr. J? I can't believe we're just getting to Javadi now. She rules. Um...
00:47:04
Speaker
Yeah, she's the she's the Nepo baby, and a nepo baby not in terms like that actor. I mean, maybe she is the the real person is related to someone. I I'm not aware of that. There is an actual Nepo baby in the cast. But in terms of like in the hospital, her mother is a surgeon, like a very a celebrated surgeon. And it's more of a burden than it is like a blessing. Right. Like she's exactly really it's baggage we're oppressed by it. Yeah. they and And the people around her treat her worse for it.
00:47:32
Speaker
So, but her arc is kind of herself trying to prove herself on her own terms and free herself from it. And she kind of does by the end of the season, like that she is a ah gifted doctor in her own right and also is not her mother. Like there's like a couple of scenes of her having to, I mean, she kind of like loses her patience, but she's like a for ah you know, her mother her mother will come in and ah assume that she knows what to do for a patient, but Javadi's already decided on something and she'll be like, i didn't authorize this, but then what Javadi's call ends up being right. And then the mother kind of is like, she doesn't even like...
00:48:10
Speaker
you know, say like, I guess you're right. And she's kind of just like gives a look. and Knowing like acceptance, but like still like disappointed somehow. And like, it's one of those things that's specific to that parent, ah but ah you know, ah you know, that that kind of relationship for those two. But then also it's universal ah in a way where it's like, I know that look. Right. And something else I wanted to get to as well with the show.
00:48:34
Speaker
And like we've, we've talked about all these individual characters and all that stuff. And this is such a woke 1.0 opinion that I'm about to say, but I'll say it anyways, right? I love how diverse the show is, you know? Hell yeah.
00:48:47
Speaker
Hell yeah. I love that, like, there are so many different types of people in this show. You've got people, you've got hijabi women as nurses, right? Who are speaking in their native tongue, just like offhandedly joking around, you know? and and and And that doesn't even feel like any kind of political statement. It's just kind of like some kind of like texture to what's going on. Authentic. It's just them. it it makes them feel it makes it feel lived in and that they're real people. It's like, yeah, that's that what would happen.
00:49:15
Speaker
The nurses would be gossiping in their native tongue like that. That's like, why would why would it because they're gossiping. They don't want people to know they're doing it. And then there's a moment where they realize that that that Santos like understands what they're saying. It is great.
00:49:30
Speaker
Exactly. Right. And and and it it it it has nothing even really to do about the diversity itself. It has everything to do about the environment. And it actually speaks to how well researched the show is to where it can have all of these pieces, right, where it's like these are all of these different ah things that are kind of existing within this realm, Because this is what the pit is, right? It's kind of like all these individual elements that are kind of floating by themselves and then how they kind of drift together, right? And how they kind of like merge together, how they associate with one another, what they see in each other, and then how they drift apart as they reach their next destinations, right? And I'm speaking specifically from the doctor's perspectives.
00:50:10
Speaker
I'm not even talking about from a patient's perspective yet. is Instead, the patients act as like this third element that comes in and complicates the original two elements I was speaking about before, right? And that's where the show can be so dynamic, where it can allow for these things to feel so organic. And when you add this, ah you know, multicultural, multi-gender, all of those things, Like it's it's adding like an X factor. It's almost like you're playing like a roguelike game. It's like you're playing a game of Dungeons and Dragons. You're throwing the dice down and you're like, oh, it's like this now. OK, I'm going I'm just going to roll with the punches. And that's the magic of the show, that it can be anything. And you're open to that because the ah openness is present within the text of the show itself.
00:50:53
Speaker
Yeah, absolutely. And while we're on the note of ah some of the diverse doctors, i want to shout out ah Dr. Collins, because ah as far as we know right now, this is the only season that she's she's in. i mean, spoilers spoilers for for two. but does she leave an impression?
00:51:10
Speaker
Oh, hell yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. She rules ah Tracy Ifacor, I believe. And she leaves like halfway through the season almost, like closer to the end, but like still like, like she dips out. and when she like it's like it's It's like right before they get the influx of the pit fest shooting people that Robbie sends her home because she fucking has a miscarriage during her shift. Like she's keeping it to her. And understandable, you know, like go home, you know? Yeah.
00:51:44
Speaker
Like, she's even not even telling, she tells dana I think, she only tells like one person that she was even actively trying. Like, I think people know that maybe she's like wanted a child in the past, but not even Robbie knew until...
00:51:59
Speaker
you know he tells she tells him that uh he can tell something's up after it happens but like he did not i don't think he was guessing that but uh because yeah fucking that's crazy and then to just do that like go in the bathroom see the see that blood cry and then go back out and treat patients that's what a fucking g like right yeah she she She like cause she the same thing we've been talking about this whole time. Right. Like she understands that like life or death, everybody who's coming in here, you know, make or break. Right. And she knows that like whatever personal shit that she's currently going through. Right. She has to put that aside, put it in a box.
00:52:39
Speaker
deal with it after her shift, right? And that's the ultimate tragedy of the show, right? Like we haven't even talked about fucking, what's his face? I actually had to fucking pull it up in another ah tab here. The guy that Sean Hatsoy or Hatsoy plays Dr. Jack Abbott. What have we here?
00:52:57
Speaker
Looks like two old white guys poached our patient. Oh, I know you're not talking about us. Well, I know he's not talking about me. Besides, it was a little too risky for me to do myself.
00:53:09
Speaker
quiet Right? Oh, he rules. Right? Like, what a fucking G, right? But, like, how does the season start? He's on the fucking roof. He's on the roof.
00:53:21
Speaker
Dr. Robbie's trying to talk him down, right? And it's played casually. It's that it's not a dramatic, like, there's we've seen so many versions of the talking someone from a ledge thing. For sure. But they're playing they're playing it like...
00:53:34
Speaker
One, they've probably done this before, song and dance before. And then also in a way where it's like the tacit acknowledgement that these roles could easily be reversed. that one day And maybe maybe they will be, maybe they have been. We do see the reverse later.
00:53:54
Speaker
and and And when we do get that reversal, let's just play it out on the field because I'm assuming everybody who's listening to this is maybe, be perhaps, me thinks has watched this season of television, right? But when it comes to that whole reversal, when we do get like the Robbie version of this event with Jack going out there and trying to help him, you know?
00:54:14
Speaker
um It speaks to this yin and yang, this push and pull that comes within, ah you know, hospitality, within like treating a patient, you know, and and and separate from any conversation that we have about season two, right? Season one of The Pit is almost like a perfect wrapped box of storytelling. There are allusions to like where things are going to go next. But if this was all that we ever got, right? There's complete arcs. It's a complete story. Yeah.
00:54:41
Speaker
Like every arc is complete and there are built arcs that like go places, but it's also like you could imagine a film ending there and you'd be like, I'm satisfied with where that's going. Right. That's where used as people.
00:54:54
Speaker
Right. Like, that's why for stuff it's like, yeah, I miss Dr. Collins, but she had a full arc. So it's also, I'm not feeling like I got cheated out of out of anything. So it's like, if they want to bring her back in another season, that's cool. That'd be fun to see how that shake shakes it up, especially with the added cast as we go along. But like, I'm also... If she never comes back, like, valid is the way I'd phrase it, you know? Like, that's a traumatizing enough experience to where if, like, she is only a character who is referenced offscreen to where it's like, you know, living her best life, got a husband, you know, whatever you want to fill in the
Plot Twists and Climaxes
00:55:32
Speaker
blank. If season two hadn't already started airing as I was binging this season, I might have been unclear. Like, I was like, maybe Dana leaves because, like, she has the whole kind of existential crisis afterwards. Understandably so after someone fucking punches, after someone knocks her to the ground that she's like, maybe I'm done. And, you know, Robbie has the reaction of like, I'll see you tomorrow or something like he's like, he's like not taking her like see kind of he's like, he's like, I won't even consider that like that. you You're going to be here. But I was like, maybe she won't. Maybe she's done. And like, if she didn't come back and season two begins and Dana's gone, I'd be like, I get it.
00:56:11
Speaker
Like, that's an arc. i'm glad she's but I'm glad she's there. But like, also, might be like fair. And to go back to what you were saying about that instance when you you went through it the first time with that character that who did that to her, right? The guy who punched her out. Like, he's the worst person, right? Like, the the worst person that you could ever want to have to talk to, right? Like... Like he's not just impatient and like entitled. It's it's like hats without a hats, but also realistic because there's 100 percent guys like that. He's like, oh, he's racist, too. He's like lack ah his little comments at at at the one male nurse. I forget. He calls him something. What's the actor who's on Chips?
00:56:50
Speaker
Michael Pena. No, from the original show. but That'd be funny. when he He's like, you mean Michael Peña? He calls him Eric Estrada, you know. he that's That's who you were thinking of. Exactly. Yeah, yeah.
00:57:07
Speaker
um Other things on the show that are great. We we haven't talked about Jack's the doctor yet. The the one like the one like doctor, the one like wonder, you know, we yeah I want to kind who just comes in when they get the influx of, you know, like we've we've talked around. There's a mass casualty event. They keep talking this whole season about Pit Fest. It's a music festival that's happening. Dr. Robbie's.
00:57:31
Speaker
kind of so I love how they just say he's like sort of Robbie's stepson like it's like a very specific relationship where it's like he dated Robbie's mom or no da Robbie back to the teacher noise
00:57:50
Speaker
So Robbie dated his mom for a little bit. So they they have a connection and a bond. And it's very sweet when he comes to and hangs out ah but before the the festival. And also the recurring joke of everyone's giving him condoms because he keeps talking about his girlfriend. And then when Robbie is about to give him something he's like, please don't give me another condom. And he's like, i was about to give you money. Are you having sex? Yeah.
00:58:17
Speaker
but But so they get the pit fest shooting ah and then ah our our one-legged wonder, ah i was about to call him Dr. John, but what's what's his actual name?
00:58:31
Speaker
Dr. Bradley, right? it is she like bull i Or no, John Digby, right? Let's say he came in the doors to the hospital as that song played. like like i feel like I would never stop talking about the show. like I would just like like i'd wake up and I'd be like, so like what are you guys' thoughts on the pits today? you know like like That's the way I'd feel about the show if that happened. um but but but i feel like dr jack abbott i said i was calling him john dr john so jack jack jack i already told you his name was i yeah but i i started thinking about jack from moss and then i was like we gotta go back no back we gotta go back no but but but jack shows up he wasn't even called in he was like i was listening to the police radio he so he's he's He's up after he works the night shift. This this this dude was just had his police radio ah going on. I mean, maybe he saw the news and then turned on the police radio or something, but he's like, it was I heard it. He on the roof.
00:59:35
Speaker
He was on the roof thinking about killing himself. And then after the fact, it was like... I'm going to do it with the police tutor just to see, just to make sure that they're okay. i wonder what's going on there. And then he brings, in bed he has his own specialized go bag of stuff ah that like, like sp his own equipment, you know, like, cause there's basically the whole thing of like, they're treating so many people so quickly that they're running out of supplies. He's like, Oh, I got my own shit in my bag here. Like he he shows up prepped. He's ready. He is, he is, he is a legend. He is, he is the the dude, you know?
01:00:10
Speaker
Holy shit. When he comes into the show, I was saying Hong Chow drops the elbow. he He's doing double elbows. Boom. Boom. In there. that's oh I'm sorry. That's going to five big booms for me. Like, that's what he's doing, you know, ah all over the place. And, like, obviously we've jokingly talked about him, you know, having one leg, right? But the way that the show...
01:00:36
Speaker
reveals that right it's also casual like everything else like all these other dramatic things it's not like a like whoa it's just like he kind of just takes the leg off at the end of the shift when they're all chilling and and having beers and it's it's just like yeah the newer doctors did not know that but it's not played as like there's not like a sweeping emotional score and he like breaks down in tears and tells how he lost the leg it's like no he just He has a prosthetic.
01:01:02
Speaker
Let's go a step further, right? At no point during any of the prior episodes with him, did we ever see him going like, my leg hurts. You know, like, oh, hold on one second. i'm I'm just going to go over here and sit down for a second. Oh, why is he doing that? Oh, you know, he gets tired. You know, there was never a moment where he was treated as different, lesser than, greater than anything like that. He was just... Are people will be like, are you okay because of your...
01:01:27
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Like nod down to like his leg. Like, are you sure you can handle this check because of, that you've never been the same as since the incident. yes We all know what happened in Nam, you know, like it's a situation like that, you know, um but it's it's It's that casualness that is, ah you know, not just afforded to this moment, to but to every moment in the show that everybody is given that humanity that nobody has ever, you know, shortchanged in that sense. It's a really wonderful thing. And it's it's it's obviously political in how empathetic it is and how it's reflective of reality with an empathetic foot forward. But it never, like...
01:02:11
Speaker
allows its cards to cards to be revealed to somebody who may not be looking for those things. You know what i mean? Yeah, exactly. it It's just like so many other things in the show. It's it's wonderfully played and in like the how it's revealed is, yeah, it it it just puts it above other how other shows would would handle something like this. But since we've already breached the seal Pit Fest, I feel like we should like kind of go around like some of the other characters during this. Because before this happens is when we get the payoff to the Langdon thing where... You know, throughout the shift, Santos has been noticing some something weird kind of with the with the the medicine, viat was specific medicine vials. And then she's kind of doing her own little investigation about like, oh ah some of these track back to ah patients that Dr. Langdon treated –
01:03:03
Speaker
she tells She tells Robbie, ah you know, of ah of her findings. And Robbie straight is like, all right, let's go to your locker. And they open it up. He's he's got the ben benzos in there. And it's like there's something refreshing about how straightforward it is. Because I was almost like, it's not just going to be in his locker, right? There's going to be something. it's like, no, yeah, where would you keep them? They're in your locker. Like that's where if I had drugs that I needed during my shift, that's where they would That's where i put them.
01:03:33
Speaker
well Well, you know, the Jeffrey Epstein files just came out, right? And like everybody thought that Pizzagate was a thing, right? And when you look at the way that they talked about even like sex trafficking, they just spoke about it in plain terms rather than using coded language. No, people are a lot, you know, more straightforward than that, you know, when it comes to dr Langdon, right?
01:03:53
Speaker
He's a drug addict, right? And the show makes no, ah you know, misgivings about that, you know? And what does a drug addict do but, like, just put those things in an easily accessible spot, A. Because they need them yeah for their face. Yes. And then B, and it's like, think about it from, you know, the average everyday perspective, right? Nobody's going through his locker at any eight point.
01:04:15
Speaker
He's afforded that security, and he's such a good doctor at his job, nobody would ever anticipate that Dr. Langdew would do such a thing, right? Because anytime Santos had these suspicions and brought it to someone, they're like, I'm not touching this. Like, that's like, it's literally her first day. She's like, i don't know. There's something about this amazing doctor that we all love. Right. and so Something's a little off. And they're like, stay in your lane, girl. Like, Robbie. Robbie.
01:04:44
Speaker
Yeah. no I was going to say he'll hear hear her out because I think at that point she's kind of already proven herself. And like, even if she's like a little unorthodox in parts, that's the thing that Robbie responds to. So he's already started seeing himself and maybe like a little bit of Langdon in her. So like I he's he's willing to to take that seriously ah when other people weren't.
01:05:08
Speaker
So we've kind of danced around noah Wiley and Dr. Robbie, I think. Oh, is in the show? Oh, okay. Yeah. Yeah. just Just throwing that out there, you know, in case you didn't know, you know, he hasn't been doing much else. um But ah like. I actually want to zero in a bit on Noah Wiley and how Dr. Robbie as a character is performed in the show, because he obviously he's the anchor of the show. He's the protagonist of the show.
01:05:32
Speaker
And he does such a great job at like being invisible at times, almost like allowing this whole ensemble to take route and without him having to take center stage. But what I love about Dr. Robbie is that like,
01:05:47
Speaker
he's in a rest development, right? Like he's kind of like, he's he's acting like a 20 year old. He's acting like one of these med students really. Right. Like that's why he's able to be like one of the pit people. Right. is Because he still occupies with that realm. And obviously as we talked about, uh, the certain someone who had to leave earlier, right. ah that kind of leads into that kind of commentary. And especially where we find him in season two, right? This is a guy who has not evolved past the age of like 25, 30 tops. Right. Right. and And, he's having a blast, but at the same time, he's riding by the skin of his teeth and,
01:06:23
Speaker
He doesn't lose his empathy while he's doing these things, but while he's performing medical procedures, it feels just as volatile as when like a Santos is doing it or when a Langdon is doing it. And he's one bad from wanting to hurl himself off a roof, you know, like that it's... Everyone keeps making note that people know him like, oh, today you came in today. And we know, you know, like we find out pretty quickly that he had a mentor who died during COVID.
01:06:51
Speaker
ah And we get little flashbacks of of that. Because it's not just that his mentor died. It's that the machine they were using to like kind of like keep his lungs going as he was dying could also be used on a girl, the subject like a little girl. And he maybe held off on trying to save his mentor for a little too long. So then when they took it to the girl, the girl also died. Like that it was like a double whammy. And it was like, no, you lose both.
01:07:21
Speaker
ah and And so he's never recovered from that. And you see him carrying that with him. and so we're like each little like basically like person they lose or thing that goes wrong throughout the day. You see it's like a Jenga tower. Like you see it's stacking on top of him. So then when we finally get to, ah you know,
01:07:41
Speaker
So I'm at Pit Fest and ah is is his kind of stepson is named Jake, right? ah I think you're right. I think you're right. So he can't get a hold of Jake. Like once they find out there's like an active shooter situation. And I was like, I was like, shit. You introduce a kid. You know, I'm like, so they're going fucking kill him off. Like right as they introduce him. Damn, that's good.
01:08:06
Speaker
the Damn, that's crazy. No, Jake's still alive, but he shows up with his girlfriend who's been shot. And they can't save her. He tries every... He tries longer than... Because they established, like, once they're, like, knowing that they're going to get all the Pit Fest victims, like, the procedure of, like, it's color-coded about what room and who's going to go where based on severity and the priority of, like, how much blood... Because they have a very limited blood supply. They even have to start doing on-screen donations. Like, that's crazy when, like, dr King is like, my god I'm the right type. Fucking let's do it right here. Like, like, okay, hold on. We got to stop right there. Flag in the play. Like he's, you're on a roll there, but I gotta say the moment that they start donating blood on the fucking fly as a part of their job, that's one of those. Like, I want to stand up and I want to salute the troops. Like, like you know what I mean? Like, yeah I'm so happy that these characters are doing this thing. It's such a selfless act. It's one of those moments where it's just like, this is why I'm watching the show. It's Christlike. They're literally giving their blood. Exactly.
01:09:09
Speaker
they didn't have to do that and they did it and it's like such an above and beyond thing that like you could consider dangerous but it's like if they don't do it then what what do you what do you say right and it's it's one of those things that again it transcends any kind of you know kind of boundary right it like it's like we do this or people die you know right and that's what i fucking love about it and like that that's what makes the pit a special show i'm sorry i just want to keep going No, no, no. I agree 100 percent with all of that. So like ah Jake's girlfriend, Robbie's giving noticeably more blood than they would get. Like that they have agreed upon like cutoff point of like if we're not we haven't saved them by then, like this isn't going to work and we need to go on. We need to save the people we can. And he keeps trying, though, because of the personal connection to it.
01:09:56
Speaker
it he fails. and ah And then when he has to tell Jake about it, like he even, Jake, you know, wants to see her and, you know, he takes to the room where the victims, that you know, the people who did didn't make it. And...
01:10:12
Speaker
You know, Jake Jake's upset, you know, like he's in mourning and you lash out at people, even if it's not really their fault. But he gets mad. He's like, why didn't you save her You know, and and this is the moment that where, you know, he got the the Emmy for is when for sure.
01:10:29
Speaker
when when he starts going off about like everyone who he lost today, including Jake's girlfriend, he's like, I will never forget any of their names. And I'll remember her long past even you do. and And, and, and then I love the way of like, he knows that the breakdown's coming and he kind of just forces Jake out of the room. He's like, you gotta go, you gotta go. And so like, so he just has the room to himself and he just like, cannot collapse. as Yeah. Yeah.
01:10:56
Speaker
It's incredible. idea that It's this idea that, like, he needs to be alone, that he can't let anybody see this. And it's not anything to do about, you know, um you know, he's worried about ah how he comes across in terms of his own vanity. Right. In a sense, he knows that, like, he can't show the rest of his pit crew how he's behaving. Right. Because they he he knows that if he's showing that kind of behavior, They're all going to, you know, think lesser of him or also crumble in the pressure of it all because it's all going downhill.
01:11:28
Speaker
Right. Because it's not. Yeah. Like you said, it's it's not an ego thing. It's more like he's the coach. And if he's freaking out, then it's everyone's like, ah we're fucked. you like give up he he's He's our North Star and he's lost it. So and and then my my fucking my boy Whitaker. i forgot what he was originally going on.
01:11:49
Speaker
if There was like bed sheets or something he needed to get in there. something it was So innocuous. He just comes in. He's like, oh, I'm sorry. I'm sorry. That's the fucking deer in the headlights. thing again but but But it's because he's so endearing that you're just like, yeah, he's the exact right person to help Robbie through this scenario. Yeah.
01:12:06
Speaker
Yeah, and he basically just is straightforward of like, we need you, so you need to like be okay right now. a guy like like like that like this is It's go time, and he it works. like he like ah like Obviously, he's still a wreck emotionally, but he's able to like rally to like go get back out there, and he's he's still...
01:12:28
Speaker
Not forgiving himself for that. And like later when he's like, says to Jack that he lost it, he's like, what, for like five minutes or something? you know like, like he's basically saying like, they're like, yeah, that happens to all of us at some point. Like, like, because like, we've kept underlying how much empathy there is in the show. It's like...
01:12:47
Speaker
the claw of these characters is that they care too much. It's like the cliche of like, I think I care too much. It's like, no, they care too much. So like, it's very reasonable that, yeah, eventually you're good. That's going to be too much. And like, you know, like you don't know which loss it's going to be, but there'll be a day where it's like, fuck. I just like...
01:13:04
Speaker
like Give me the room, you know, because it's like, yeah, that's it makes 100 percent sense. It's like and you don't want them to be colder or anything like, oh, well, they need to steal themselves so they're not fucking losing him. It's like, no, Jack understands. It's like, that's fine. Like you, you, you had five minutes where you couldn't and then you came back. You know, it's like it's the you coming back is the important part is like you did it. You came back.
01:13:30
Speaker
And then there's also the added layer where it's like there are people who are constantly like commenting give on Dr. Robbie's inability to have like human emotions, you know, like being able to like experiencing things like in an earnest sense beyond the patients. Right. Whereas like obviously when they're trying to go through like mini conversations between little things, he's very flippant. He's like, yeah, I'll get to it.
01:13:52
Speaker
Yeah. Really yeah good good idea. You know, like il Clooney, which is very ironic. um And and ah the the best part is the he always gets away with it. Like everybody's always so charmed about Dr. Robbie. That's why he's Dr. Robbie. Right. Like, oh, don't worry. Dr. Robbie's coming to see you. And then Dr. Robbie comes and is hello, how are you doing? Like like he's the very class. Like, like,
01:14:17
Speaker
the The thing I'm always doing with this ah show is I'm thinking about myself as the patient who's come into this, right? And going through this situation and how all of these people would be interfacing with me, right? And like I'm even thinking about Samara Mohan, right? You remember ah that character? ah Yeah. and Are we talking about...
01:14:38
Speaker
there Oh, yeah, yeah. Dr. dr Mohans. Yeah. Yep. Very straight-laced. Very, like, you know that you're talking to that person. You know you're getting, like, the right thing. And then she's also performing surgery, too.
01:14:50
Speaker
Right? Like, good doctor. Right? Good doctor and doing things of, like, we said, like, if they don't do these things, the people die. Like, there's a point where they have... basically no other option that she has to like drill a hole in someone's head she just does it the most baller thing that happens the whole season but yeah like baller moment of the year well and i think it's like she's like self-aware of that because she's like riding a hot like you almost think you're like are they doing another person on drug storyline because she's like really wired by the end and it's like been 15 hours and she's like i think i'll stay She's like walking around looking for more patients. She's like, well, don't want to drill somebody
Impactful Characters and Themes
01:15:28
Speaker
else. And I love that. Like our one-legged wonder is cheering her on the entire time. Like you see, hey, you almost killed them. Like he says the end, it's one of those things where it's like you did something crazy, but I respect the hell out of it. You know, this show has – He literally says that was fucking badass. Yeah. sir It's amazing.
01:15:49
Speaker
It's like this show has such a – Yeah, she rules – um Let's see. Other other stray... We gotta call doctors out. Yeah. ah So, McKay. i referenced her earlier. Fiona Doroth. I already have a fondness for the Doroth family. The Doroth dynasty, if you will. The Doroth dynasty. I mean...
01:16:15
Speaker
i i lot I haven't even seen all all the Chucky movies. i'm i'm I'm a Brad Dwarf guy for life. A lot of it is ah Deadwood. ah He's played a doctor in that. ah And also a doctor who cared too much because the whole thing about him is like he's like jaded and atheist because he was like in the Civil War and all the shit he saw. But then there's like this the things that break him with where it's like he just can't.
01:16:42
Speaker
he has a, there's a patient in the first season who has like a brain tumor and it's fucking the old West. You can't do anything with brain tumor. There's dead, you know, like they're going to die. yeah And but he also can't euthanize the guy without his consent. So it's like, this guy's just going to suffer. And he like literally gets down on his knees and he's like crying to God. He's like, I, my body's not even useless because I haven't prayed in so long. I don't even remember how to do this. But he's like begging God to like, like take away, you know, like, and this guy saw it's so, it's,
01:17:10
Speaker
fucking some of the best shit and in in television. yeah And so to have his daughter be playing a doctor and then he even fucking shows up to to to pick up the grandson.
01:17:23
Speaker
Incredible when it happens. like like Like comes out of nowhere and you're just like, I can't believe this show did this. This is like the how some people reacted to people coming out of portals in Avengers Endgame. I was like, a Bran Dwarf!
01:17:36
Speaker
Bran Dwarf came out of a portal. and and then And then he insults McKay's shitty ex-husband. So there's a whole backstory with her of how, like, we get... They're all empathetic, ah but we get the sense that like she's more like street level of like the understanding of like some of the hardships that quote-unquote normal people, you know like people who maybe slip through the cracks do, because she had her own problems with with drugs. And there was this whole thing where her exes...
01:18:08
Speaker
girlfriend like called the cops on her so now she has an ankle monitor and crazy reveal create the reveal and then crazier of like it it starts malfunctioning and it's like right as the pit fest shit is happening so they have all these people that they need to do s surgery on just fucking takes a drill into that the fucking baby not disables it i yeah also another cheer worthy moment uh And she also has the storyline of like we talked about all the different like, you know, real world topics that things touches on. Like she has a patient that's very likely being trafficked. Like there's like all these like yeah red flags of like this woman comes in and she says,
01:18:49
Speaker
yeah, this is my boss. But it was like treating her boss like this like immediate family member. Like, you can say whatever in front of her. The bo the boss, I'm saying in quotation marks, won't let her alone. Like, they're like, want to do some scans. She's like, yeah, I'll come with. And it's like, they keep... So they're immediately sus and trying to find ways to like, ah you know, buy some distance. Separate the two.
01:19:11
Speaker
Yeah, and... McKay gets some FaceTime one-on-one with the patient and is trying to tell like, you can come to, you know, like giving her all these like way outs, you know, of ways to like, ah to come forward. And like, she even like gives her a pen. It's like, there there's got there's a number on here. Cause like, she's kind of rejecting any like notion that anything's wrong. She's like, I'm fine. i don't know you're talking about, but she's like, there's a pen, there's a number on it. Like,
01:19:41
Speaker
If you're you know ever in trouble, you can call that. And they don't really like make the breakthrough that they want to get through to her, but they do notice that when she lit leaves, she took the pen. It seems she took the pen with her. So, I mean, we don't see that happen. i The brothers part me, i was like, did one of the other doctors take the pen just so they could tell McKay she took the pen? I don't know. I think she actually took because of the heart of the show. i was like, yeah, she took the pen. So there's like the sliver of like...
01:20:08
Speaker
okay, it it didn't work out the way they planned, but it's Yeah, they they had to do something. And then also McKay is crucial to this whole... So I went in knowing about Pit Fest, the Pit Fest shooting. Fest. Yeah.
01:20:24
Speaker
I totally fell for when there's the one patient who said that she brought herself in because she's worried about her like incel son who's like wrote a list of girls that he wants to hurt. i was like, oh shit, this is the guy. He's going to do it. And so... I was like 100% McKay's side when like she, Robbie and everyone else is telling like, don't jump to conclusions. Like all we know is that this is a troubled young man like, yes, let's, let's like get ahold of him and let's, let's, but let's see what we can do. Like Robbie's coming at from the standpoint of like, we need to help this, this kid because if we just call the cops, like it could just be, his life could just be over, you know, in terms of like, like that that I don't know that that's really
Healthcare Ethics and Empathy
01:21:06
Speaker
helping him. But McKay's thinking of it from the standpoint of, and she even directly tells this to the kid later ah when when he's when he's in custody, when they have him in like ah in in the room there talking about like, thinking about what it's like to be afraid, fear for your life, and then to have that fear from like half of the population at all times every day. And she's like, that's what it's like to be a woman. She's thinking about the girls that this guy, this kid has written in basically like his manifesto. Exactly.
01:21:37
Speaker
And that's why she she calls the cops. Like, he ends up not being the shooter. But I like that the show also is like, this kid could still be a problem. Like, he's not like the one that like the, you know, they end up finding the shooter from Pit Fest dead. You know, like but like how most of those things end. He like took took his own life. But that like, yeah, this kid could still be a future shooter. Like, like that this he definitely has all the...
01:22:00
Speaker
ah red flag indicators are there. So like something needed to be done with ah with him. Like, should she have found some other way other than going straight to cops? i Maybe, but I don't know. There was time of was of that like, they're dealing with all this shit. And then like, you know, the and the fucking shooting happened. So like, what I, you know, I, what do you want them to do to connect the dots? Right. At that point. Right. Like it's something that's clearly going on there. Right. The the the thing is, is that, um,
01:22:29
Speaker
the show isn't afraid to show when these people get it wrong. Right. there Like, especially when it's a medical diagnosis, when it's like, you know, a situation where, uh, something like that, you know, where it's like they cast judgment upon somebody and they get it just slightly off. Right.
01:22:47
Speaker
ah It's all part of the plan. It's all something that's offsetting one another, right? I really admire how the show never really, ah you know, puts the full confidence in these people being 100% right all the time. You know, they're doing their best as doctors. But their hearts are in the right place. It's like their their motivations are coming from very pure and selfless place. It's not just like it's not like she doesn't care when Robbie has valid concerns about like what's going to happen to this kid if he's not like about to imminently, you know,
01:23:18
Speaker
do ah do a shooting, but it's like also she has a very good point. Like, what about those girls? Like, what about their life? And Robbie, even though she was wrong, he's like, I wasn't thinking about those girls. Like, you know, like he like acknowledges like her point of view.
01:23:32
Speaker
Like, and that's the whole show of like, they're not even like beefing, even though they had opposing viewpoints on an issue. They're like, you know what? You were right too. I love you. Yeah. Because at the end of the day, it matters most that they just get it right. You know, that like as long as like the person that they're talking about, like walks out the doors in one piece. Right.
01:23:55
Speaker
As long as they can put everything that they have going on with each other aside for that moment. That's what matters at that time. You know, that's what the pit is all about. That's why the pit's such a good show. Right.
01:24:07
Speaker
There are things about the second season that maybe we could nitpick when we get there, but you know when it comes to contained within this narrative, it feels like it's a tidy bow to where at no point do you feel as though anybody's malicious to one another, even if people are like you know making names or teasing Yeah, even the Huckleberry thing that Santos is like, ah ah gives Whitaker and then Jabadi gets, you know, the nickname Crash because she, you know, like kind of faints it and ah towards the beginning of the the season. Like it's... Jabadi. They're annoyed by the nicknames, but it's clearly coming from a place of of like, you know, it's like you tease someone that you care about. Like they're still in... And they've been through war by the end of it. So there's like, they're even closer than ever And I love how that storyline with Santos and Whitaker, ah ah like the reveal of like she she notices like was like, oh, Whitaker's not just going straight out on his shift. And he goes up. He goes upstairs to like an abandoned, like an unused floor, unused room. And he's like, shower he's he's homeless currently, you know, like that. He doesn't have anywhere to go. like, you know, he keeps saying he's between places. And there's like there was keys to it early because like like there's like the unhoused guy who like pees on him. And then on and then who, you know, when he comes to later after he's got got his meds, it's like, you know, apologize, apologize to Whitaker. But Whitaker shows interest in like, oh, you guys have a street team of like, you know, you can bring ah patients like this their medicine and, you know, like make sure they get the care they need. I, you know, at the time, I'm just like, oh, it's empathetic. Everyone show empathetic. So that that just makes sense. um But then you're like, oh, he has a personal interest in that because he's not that far away. I mean, that's, yeah, realistically in America, most people are not that as far away from being on the streets as, you know, they would want to admit. It's like one really bad
01:26:01
Speaker
financial situation can send a lot of people to that situation. And yeah, uh, Santos sees uh, uh, you know, which she walks like singing while, while he's like washing up and she invites him. She like, she's got a spare room. So invites to live with him. And I love that.
01:26:20
Speaker
It speaks to the kindness of Santos, right? And then it also, like, for Whitaker, it's a big win, right? And then also on another note, like, kind of coloring this whole scenario is like this whole, like, conversation that we've been having with Dr. Robbie and this efficiency dark ah person, right? Like, working with the company for the hospital.
01:26:39
Speaker
Right, because there's a possibility of like that there's going to be like some kind of basically like corporate buyout or or like where it's like we we need to be more efficient or we're going to basically become like ah more of a business, you know, it's got it's like. Basically saying like your way of doing things. It's like how people talk to Tom Cruise and talk about marriage. Like your way of doing things is a over. You're outdated, Dr. Robbie. But but like let's take that because I agree. Right. But then also let's take that to the step with like what's actually happening in this hospital. You're telling me that there's an entire upper wing that's vacant. Right.
01:27:17
Speaker
That is ready to take these people who are flooding the yeah ah ER, right? Like the biggest issue with the ER waiting is is room space, right? Yeah. Exactly, right? And for whatever reason, you're telling me that like you have all this empty space and the only issue that you're having right now is doctors?
01:27:33
Speaker
Right. And the thing that they keep on trying to get after ah all of these different like the efficiency specialist is coming in. Right. They're only talking about like how to cut corners. They're not talking about like hiring more doctors to fill the spaces that they have available. Right. right It seems very backwards. um You know, there's yeah There's one thing I remembered earlier, and I wanted to bring it up right now because we've talked about many doctors who are great.
01:27:59
Speaker
But I think we ought to talk about the best patient on the pit, right? The best patient who's ever been on the pit. The best patient who will ever be on the pit, right? think you know I'm talking about, right? It's Louie.
01:28:10
Speaker
The only person that song has ever been applied to and never yeah anyone else. Nope. Do not Google search. Yeah. Any of that, please, for our sake. But, yeah, he rules.
01:28:23
Speaker
but ah um yeah you rules Yeah, he's he's the best, you know, coming in with his big old gut, you know. Oh, his last name is Cloverfield? Whoa. Is JJ a producer on this? Hold on. He's part of the Cloverfield universe.
01:28:40
Speaker
Was he born during the Super Bowl? Netflix surprise releases Louie. Yeah. Came out of the belly of his mother with a giant belly. Like... Like... like It's just a giant Louie rampaging around New York. like johnzelu There's a bunch of little mini Louies. One of them kills li Lizzie Chaplin. It's kind of fucked up.
01:29:10
Speaker
TJ Miller is like, oh my God, it's alive. It's huge. the
01:29:16
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ah Yeah, this guy this guy rules. I definitely... I've i've seen him like... He seems like a character actor that's been in a million things. definitely seen him in other stuff. um he' just The way he's like just making a meal out of every word he says, you know, just like just taking my time. you know, just like, it's always like...
01:29:35
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comfortable no matter what situation he's in he's he's alcoholic but he's like in and out all the time but like no one like to the unjudgmental nature of the thing like it's like no one's like scorning him or talking down to him they'll occasionally like throw something in about like hey your liver might need a break or something you know like do your liver a favor and he's dying that man is dying Every time he's in there, they're like they're they're prolonging the inevitable. They're just kind of like, here's Louis again. But like every time Louis comes in, it's like another step inching closer to death.
01:30:09
Speaker
Right. But like all they can do is like, you know, suggest to him of like, hey, take it easy. But like they probably know that that's like not going to happen. And that that's yeah, he's treat his way way to in an early grave. But all all they can do is help him while they can. But again, it's all judgment free, which is interesting that that's like they extend that to their patients. But.
01:30:33
Speaker
Robbie, you know, I mean, ah obviously Robbie's reaction to Langdon is like, go you know, you find out one of your doctors is an addict. You need to do something about it and telling him to get into a program. But the fact of like, you know, we'll get into it more in season two.
01:30:49
Speaker
he kind of just like is done with Robbie and are are done with Langdon in that moment. Like, it's not like yeah he kind of is not extending them that, that same grace or humanity. It's like, yes, he did fuck up. Like that's bad. Like you're not supposed to do that. Like as much as we're saying like, yeah, he's the man Langdon's fucking, uh, a triple plus surgeon, ah you know, top tier, but also, yeah, you can't do that. And I, you know,
01:31:17
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he there needs to be some consequence for that. But, you know, there had been some kind of like paternal care between them, you know, like it's like um not just like a a mentor mentee, but kind of like almost like father-son vibe, you know, like this is his family and like the that Langdon was definitely like the favorite. and He expected more from him. he He took him under his wing, right? He was like, you are going to be my predecessor. like that's Because he's the favorite is that is a why that's disappointing. Like you said, like he was... being groomed to be the predecessor. So it's like, that it's like you can't, you fucked up everything. Like, it's like, like yeah you couldve you were supposed to be the next me and now that can't happen because you're an addict.
01:32:00
Speaker
I want to get back to Louis a bit because there's a larger point I want to make about Louis and his place in the show and what the show represents to me, right? Because like, Something that we were just both talking about with Louis, right, was that how, like, everyone's aware of his ah condition, right? They know he's got to take it easy on the liver, right? But he, like, can't help it. He's an alcoholic, right? And he's going to keep drinking, right? That that aspect is already apparent. We both know that.
01:32:27
Speaker
What's interesting instead is that every time Louis comes in through the door, they're happy to see him. He's a good hang. They want to hang out with Louis. Oh, Louis is We want to say hi to Louis, right?
01:32:39
Speaker
by ah this connection with the patient that they have, right, through their inherent earnestness, their empathy, right? And just by getting to know this guy, ah you know, they want to be around him, right? But it's this patient-doctor situation where they start to see him more as a friend rather than as somebody with an illness, right? And by a certain regard, by, like, letting this guy through the door, you know, and hang around, they're prolonging something.
01:33:06
Speaker
They're allowing something to happen. It's not just present there. It's present through all of the different relationships they have with all their patients. Because the face of it, it almost seems to fly in the face of do no harm because you're like enabling him to a certain degree. But also, and this is hammered home with other cases, like they can't only do so much. Like they can't force him to stop drinking, you know, like, like.
01:33:32
Speaker
They, yeah, they say like, hey, take it easy on your liver. I mean, maybe they could recommend him like, you know, some kind of AA thing, but they know he's not going to do that. So like, you know, it's it's not that they don't care. i think they just know him so well, but it's like they've already, maybe they've already even tried that in the past, you know, like and recommended different things. it's like, I think they know the extent of like,
01:33:56
Speaker
they're not going to be able to get through to Louis in that way. So all they can do is help him in this way. Exactly. and, uh, you know, it also goes to the same degree with Langdon, right? Where it's like, they feel so betrayed with him, and but at the same time, like,
01:34:12
Speaker
He's such a get damn damn good doctor, right? Where it's like there's still an inherent level respect that's there, you know? They're just like really disappointed by what happens with Langdon, right? They're pissed off that this happened this way that they did, right? Which shades the entire way that character plays down very interestingly.
01:34:30
Speaker
I love that he just comes back when they get the pit fest. Cause like that's Robbie kicks him out before that. And then he's just showing up. He's like, you need me. Sorry. Yeah. it it's And it's true. bible well it's It's why Langdon is my favorite because like,
01:34:47
Speaker
Let's be honest, right? He has no business being in that hospital at that point, right? But at the same time, it speaks to the inherent need of these people, right? They're understaffed and people might have died, probably would have died. They only lost, I believe, six people out of all. There was like a lot of victims from the gunshot wounds and they saved most of them. And let's let so let's be real. Langdon's got a family, right? Like Langdon doesn't have to be there right now, right? So like the fact that Langdon,
01:35:17
Speaker
got essentially fired, right? Like on the spot and was like, no, I'm going to stay because I need to, right? He knows he's fucked, but in probably more and more trouble because he's coming back. But he's like, it's that selflessness. It's not, it's not I mean, maybe a slightly little bit of ego of like, yeah, you need me, but they ah he's correct. They do need him. So it's like it is a selfless thing of him, you know, further risking his neck in terms of like his career to be like, I'm here to help people. That is what we're all here to do is to help people. The thing you just said, right? Six people died, right? Out of however many who could have died, right? Like I'm being realistic, right? Like how many of those people would have died if Langdon wasn't there?
01:36:01
Speaker
Right? like Yeah, maybe a couple more. Like, yeah. Exactly. Like, I do feel as though Langdon is a glue that hangs this they all thing together in terms of, like, efficiency.
01:36:13
Speaker
When it comes to, you know, methods, that's where we can disagree, you know? um But but but they all they all in different ways go outside the lines. And, like, while we're talking about just having some – a compilation on YouTube like badass doctor moments from bits. He's like fucking yeah alpha, alpha moments. Uh, when Santos, here's where they Joker maxing.
01:36:37
Speaker
Yeah. but There's the one, ah patient who Santos basically threatens. Like she tells the guard to stand outside the door. Cause you find out that, uh, there's this one guy who like got dizzy and fell off while he was like painting. And it's because uh,
01:36:53
Speaker
wife had been giving him progesterone because he's molesting their daughter and he was trying to she was trying to kill his sex drive and they're kind of their hands are tied in terms of like what they can do about that like they've experienced in other cases but basically while he's still on the table after they've done the surgery she goes in and saying that like If she ever, if he ever goes and like, you know, touches her again or anything that he's going to have that guy arrest points to the security guard outside. It's like, he's like, yeah, I'm going to have him arrest you. And you know what they do to guys like you in prison and shit. And like, just like blink. If you understand me, and he like just, she, she says blink twice and he blinks like five. He's like nervous. He's like, ah, fuck, fuck, fuck.
01:37:37
Speaker
He's like Hector Salamanca hitting that bell, you know? Ding, ding, ding, ding, ding. um Yeah. um Which is like, you can't do that, but she's also... ah Fuck that guy. You know, so...
01:37:52
Speaker
when When you're a doctor, right, and you've just saved somebody's life and it's literally like a life and death situation and and they see you as responsible for saving them from the jaws of death, right? ah And you're in that position as that doctor to say whatever you need as a piece, knowing all of these and pieces of information, right? That's a baller thing to do, right? Especially considering such heinous crimes, such, you know, ah unfairness, right? It's a situation where, again, it goes to this empathy of the pit, right? It goes into this whole idea of like ah trying to make sure that situations are made better for others in a selfless way. And in in many ways, it's very human where they're trying to find where the barriers are, the boundaries are, where they can push further. And you can tell that there are moments where they're held back and you can feel where they're like in pain about that, right? Yeah.
01:38:46
Speaker
It's this interesting push and pull with this show. It's able to exist within those two realms. But then when there's these moments like this, it feels very triumphant that the right side can prevail here. Yeah, I mean, that's the part where it almost feels like edging towards fantasy. But I'm like, I believe within the reality of the show that this character would do this and I'm on her side. So I'm not going to like be like... Calling bullshit. eye It's just more of like, oh, fuck, if you could get in so much trouble for this. And then maybe she will. We don't know. Like that could blow back ah ah later. So that's trouble worth getting into. Yes. yeah Right. No, i'm i'm'm I'm not saying she shouldn't have done it. I'm just saying, like, because of the show seems to like not really leave any loose ends that that could come back, you know, like that. Right. It could it could be a thing. um We've already shouted her out before, but I just feel like we got the Dr. King. Like, fucking round ofly yeah round of applause. ah Round of applause for Dr. King, everybody.
01:39:45
Speaker
had already said there was a, you know, Nepo baby in the cast. She's Bryan Cranston's ah daughter, but... She looks a lot like him too. Kind of say it she does. She does like little facial expressions that are are so and also I'm seeing like the exact same thing. She looks the same as him. It's crazy, man. Like I'm watching this sometimes. I'm like, that is Bryan Cranston. Yeah. Because she's got her own talents. Right. But she she looks so much like her father. ah she looks so much like him and apparently she was in Breaking Bad in the very funny scene in season three after Spoils for Breaking Bad, Walt causes like a plane crash and he's talking to the auditorium full of people and he's trying to like explain like why it doesn't it's not even that bad compared to other aviation disaster like he's statistically breaking down why the crash isn't that bad and she's like a student at the at the school that he teaches and I think she's like, why bad things like this happen or something? And then Walt goes on his whole thing. of like oh It's actually not that bad. ah
01:40:50
Speaker
She's incredible in this. ah And like we've we've highlighted the empathy of ah other other doctors. I like the subversion of like, she's clearly on the spectrum. Her sister she cares for is on the spectrum. But it's she almost shown as like,
01:41:08
Speaker
Some shows depict that as like you have less access to empathy. And yeah this is almost like, no, she's more empathetic, like that she can have better understand things that other doctors are missing because they have a ah patient who is is ah is on the the spectrum and she's able to to get through to him and actually communicate with him when Langdon couldn't. Langdon was just getting like fed up, probably like, i need more benzos.
01:41:35
Speaker
but Yeah. ah King was like, no, I'll turn the lights off. And, you know, it's loud and noisy in in the yeah ER. And then I can actually like talk to this guy.
01:41:47
Speaker
One thing I imagine is like every time Dr. Langdon hit that benzo, right? Like she took the hit, right? The first person he always saw was Dr. King. And that's why they always, like she always perceived it flirting. It was like him coming off of the hide and just be like, hey, Dr. King, you know? He's like, and she's just like, hey, so charming, you know? Well, and even though other people,
01:42:12
Speaker
Doctors acknowledge her talents throughout the season. He's the one who validates that yeah ability of her, of like her ability to emotionally connect with someone. And I think she ah values like that, like, oh, and people haven't really clocked that. i It's like probably something she doesn't really get credit for. It's like being able to connect to people on ah an emotional level. get on that that note, right? like Because like we talked about her being like on the spectrum, right? ah The ah thing that I like about the show's depiction of being on the spectrum is that, as you had alluded to, like she's on the spectrum, but that doesn't mean she's not empathetic, like she's actually very considerate. I think it actually speaks to something larger where like you feel as though she's afraid of like missing a step. like she's like you know She wants to make sure that she is accommodating to those things even when there are times where she knows that she is falling short, right? And when she knows that she's falling short, she has to like...
01:43:08
Speaker
She feels self-conscious and she needs to like kind of step up and like, oh, ah hold on, let me re-correct that, you know. I think that's a really interesting way to play that kind of character and to show that kind of ah ah mistake so earnestly is a really wonderful thing to see just from an actor's perspective. Just to have that ah vulnerability like in – Another show would just depict her as cold as like like I feel like that's the cliche for if someone's like autistic or on the spectrum is like there's like just a detachment or you go in the direction. I guess I i guess the the other direction is it like in the Hannibal show where ah Will Graham has super empathy where he can.
01:43:50
Speaker
She's the only one who can think like a killer. But this is like she's empathetic and able to could understand people in a way that feels very real. And like you're like, yes, that but makes her a good doctor. Like there's the whole thing of like, I think it's Dr. Mohan talking about like what her special sauce as a doctor is. And, ah you know, dr Dr. King is worried and gets self-conscious about like, what if I don't have a special sauce? And no, she figures out that that's what that is. ah
01:44:21
Speaker
But by by the end of it it's like that's what is unique about her and the way she's able to understand and relate to her patients emotionally. Yeah. to just take the extra stuff to like meet their extra needs in those moments to just be sensitive to those. It's something that, you know, every doctor on the show does at some point or another, but she's extra attentive to those cares.
01:44:45
Speaker
Like she's always looking up for those things just beyond like the immediate, like, Oh, they came in because of this kind of issue. She's also paying attention to like what their chart says to what, like how they came, like what they've told uh,
01:44:58
Speaker
ah as they're coming in through the door, right? Which is more than you can even say about the best doctors. Even a robbie is going to miss those things, right? ah So, you know, that's what's always going to set King apart. And then also on top of that, every time we hear about what's going on with her sister, you know, every time we're like, oh, you know, ah what what movie are you watching right now or whatever, right? It's just a charming little...
01:45:23
Speaker
Escape from everything that's going on. And and you you tell that King is always present for with those conversations. She's always present. And then we'll get into in season two. It kind of hints at or like starts to show like her selflessness because like there's a whole storyline with an elderly caregiver.
Influences and Hopeful Portrayals
01:45:43
Speaker
I think that I don't know if I...
01:45:45
Speaker
Like I said, i teared up multiple times during... yeah I don't remember if it was during this storyline, but like dealing with like elder care stuff can can hit hit close to home in terms like ah stuff stuff I've ah gone through with like grandparents stuff. But like there's the um there's there's there's the woman ah who...
01:46:03
Speaker
I think she like fell or something. And then you bring in, you fight you realize that the daughter is like the sole caretaker and like the strain that it's putting on her. you know, King, you know, tells her like, I, I understand, like I'm, you know, take care of my sister. Sometimes you got to take care yourself. And then they can't find the the daughter for like a few hours. It's like, it's like a couple episodes where they like, don't know where the daughter is. And then the patient's still there. And they're like, dude, did she abandon her mom? Like what, what happened? And it found that she, she fell asleep in the, in her car because she was so tired. Like that's ended up being what happened. It's like, yeah, I mean, that, that tracks.
01:46:43
Speaker
Like sometimes those little things can just happen, you know, and it's just like, it's again, it's these little things that can happen throughout a day. Right. And it because the show is structured throughout a day, right. And through these like real time hours, not in the 24 cents, we're not going to need a split screens or anything like that. Yeah. They should do split screen. I did. why I did. sir It's funny that after I caught up on the pit, i was like, what other ah TV shoot show blind spots should I do? I'll watch 24. That was a good time in 2026 to start 24.
01:47:11
Speaker
Press play. that Intense torture sequence of a terrorist. Right. We're in the weapons of mass destruction. And it's good that he's doing it. I am glad that he tortured those people. Listen, as we all know, ah torturing people is the best way to get information out of them. Always works. for somebody it always works. Like there's a certain button that you can press on a person, right? You you just like, oh, they tell the truth. You know, that's all need to do. right You just got to hit them hard enough till you find that button. Everybody's button is different. You know, that's the unfortunate part. you got to...
01:47:49
Speaker
You got really nail into it. You know, like sometimes you got to learn a bit of a chiropractic, you know, to get into it. Sometimes you got to, you know, ah get a mallet. You know, it's all up to your own ah approach.
01:48:00
Speaker
ah But yeah, it's it's it's it's an evil show politically, but I support the, do you know, just like I support the Dorff dynasty, I support the Sutherlands, except that one kind of juiceless one who was in the most recent Oz Perkins movie. Keeper? You mean ah union tax Union Haven from the strikes?
01:48:22
Speaker
ah do it so Wait, what? be e like was a He made Keeper in Canada because he the strikes were going on. he was like... oh oh Yeah, but the Sutherland in that kind of wasn't doing it for maybe it's just because Tatiana Maslany is is really, really great.
01:48:41
Speaker
ah kind of think in a Very, very underrated actress. Do I feel like we haven't even really tapped that resource yet? ah No one's talking about Orphan Black.
01:48:51
Speaker
Why aren't we? why Why aren't we? She played like 20 people. Come on. What are we doing here? You know, fucking Scarlett Johansson wants to play a tree. Who gives a shit? You know, watch Orphan Black. Right. Yeah. Rassif Sutherland. I mean.
01:49:08
Speaker
Yeah. don't know. don't want dis him. Maybe he's great in something else, but ah he doesn't do it for me like the other Southerlands. He's no Donald. Donald is the king, oh for sure.
01:49:19
Speaker
Yeah, Donald's the king. Kiefer, I wish, was it... Because there was a time where he, like... was doing weird little freaks. And I want him to go back to do, I feel like 24 almost was a curse where it's just like, he just became like authoritative, like action guy. And it's like, no, actually put some glasses on him and have him be like, like, with like creeping in a corner. Like, like he is a dark city. Just have him be like, yeah. Yeah.
01:49:46
Speaker
Oh, Dark City, Kiefer Sutherland, it might be his best performance. I really like it. would say either that or Firewalk. love him in Firewalk with me in that segment. Like, he's great. Really, it's just glasses. Put some glasses on him. That's kind of weird.
01:50:04
Speaker
But hold on. Have you have you seen ah William Friedkin's last film, The Kane Mutiny Court Martial? No, I need to see that. in it oh my God. Kiefer Sutherland is so good in it. Like, I'm not going to say like William Friedkin directed the show, but like Kiefer Sutherland and ah what's his name? Fucking I want to get it right.
01:50:23
Speaker
ah Fucking like he's a guy who's like always a bridesmaid, never a bride kind of guy. Jason Clarke, you know, Jason Clarke, who's always getting cucked. Yeah, I know. Yeah. Jason Clarke, always a bridesmaid, never a bride. Like I said, ah but ah he's a he delivers one of his best performances ever. Jason Clarke in that film. And Kiefer Sutherland is also amazing in that movie. He's good. He's good in courtroom settings like fucking Oppenheimer.
01:50:50
Speaker
He's like, O'Keefer Sutherland, when he is like on the stand and he's like guilty as shit and he's just like flabby and sweaty, he is just perfect. I don't know how he aged into that kind of actor, but he did.
01:51:02
Speaker
oh Lance Reddick is it. R.I.P. Lance Reddick has like a scene right up top and and it's it's very quick. And when it does happen, it does have that kind of same like, oh, my God, he's here too, you know?
01:51:15
Speaker
What a talent. What a lot of... K-Mutiny Court Martial is definitely worth watching. And also, Doug, sorry to say this outside of the context of the podcast, but like, it okay we wrap it up soon?
01:51:27
Speaker
i think I think so. I feel like we've we've we have covered a lot of... ground I mean, it's like, it's not like we were trying to go episode by episode and it's first pretty late. so That's what I'm getting at.
01:51:40
Speaker
I mean, do we have, you know, we've we've talked around some of the doctors. We want to highlight different cases. Yeah, we we could go all night, but we won't because we need we need our rest. But the show is it it lives up to the hype. I mean, it wasn't wasn't like some things. yeah it's It's like dangerous. Like I almost get upset when things are like praised so much. I'm like, don't do that. You're like hurting it for when I eventually watch it. And then if it doesn't live up to it. and I'm going be in trouble. Yeah. I'm going to talk to the manager. But this delivered, if not surpassed, because it's like you almost can't even even like knowing certain plot points like, oh, I knew Plitfest was going to happen, but it's like you can't really spoil it in that way because it's like knowing how the whole thing connects throughout the day, throughout the shift and like
01:52:36
Speaker
how these characters' lives intertwine and then also parallel the, the you know, what they're going through with the patients. it's It's just fucking great TV. This is our way to put it.
01:52:50
Speaker
To go back to what you were saying about the hype, right? Because, like, with all these shows that come on all the time, right? Like so many of the, so much of the time it's about like what the elements are, right? They're talking about like, you know, uh, okay. So, uh, stranger things, right? Uh, we've got 80s nostalgia.
01:53:07
Speaker
Okay. What else is going in the show? There's a lot of 80s nostalgia, right? Okay, whatever. There's like the Demogorgon. Oh, sure.
01:53:17
Speaker
yeah I'll take your word for it. um But when when it comes to, ah you know, a show like The Pit, um it reflects reality without having any kind of like...
01:53:29
Speaker
It reflects reality without being too pessimistic, which something like this often is portrayed as, you know, like whenever people are like, oh I'm going to show you like the real side of this industry. They're really trying to sell the brutality of it or the heartlessness of it.
01:53:46
Speaker
And I think that the radical element of the show is how it decides that instead it's going to take the empathetic route and to have it so there's always an optimistic street to it.
01:53:57
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And it's not that it's unrealistic because it takes this route. Instead, it's because it takes this route in this way that it can feel more rewarding as you get through it.
01:54:07
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And, ah you know, and and it's not pasting over the dark stuff. It's acknowledging that it's like saying that, like, no, there's hope in spite of that. That it's like this is.
01:54:18
Speaker
Like, yes, the the reality of these things can be very bleak and demoralizing. But hey, what if we actually all just tried to be nicer to each other? Basically, like, what if we all gave a shit, which is like very refreshing in this time where a show is like, hey, isn't it cool if you give a shit? And it's like, yeah, man, it's cool. i wouldn't even go so far as to say that it's pleading for the empathy of other people. Like, obviously, that's the best case scenario that the people who make the show are hoping for. That's what they say when they're on the Emmy stage as they're accepting, right?
01:54:53
Speaker
ah But at the at on the ah on the flip side of it, right, like... If I didn't have the pit, I would just kill and kill and kill. I wouldn't have any empathy. It's the only thing that's holding me back. I'm about to go dirty is on everybody. Right. But but but what what I'm getting at is that, like, this is a part of their job.
01:55:14
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Right. They like of all the people in the world that have to have empathy. Right. It has to be the doctors. Right. It can't like obviously when you have an empathetic bus driver, you know, that's the greatest. Right. But you don't have to be an empathetic bus driver. You can be a bus driver who's kind of shitty and misses. That's what they should do in instead of the cop spinoff bus drivers. Show us bus drivers in the world of the pit.
01:55:38
Speaker
It would be interesting, wouldn't it? and And I would be far more empathetic to them if they did something a little selfish. But when it comes to the the pit, what I'm trying to get at here is that a doctor's oath is totally within the service of the people. And anytime there is any kind of moment where the people are being let down, the show is all about trying to correct that, trying to move to the place where that ah where some kind of solace can be found. And as you're saying, Doug, you know, in these trying times, you know, in times that feel so bleak to have people who are trying their best in these ways, I think that that is ah inspirational in sense, but then also is like kind of charting the way where it's like, ah sure, things look really bleak right now, but like even in the bleakest of times, these people will step up and there's more of these people than all of the other people who shroud the world in darkness. Yeah. Yeah, well said. yeah i think it's it's just a good counterbalance against basically the past, has it been 20 years, however many years it's been since The Dark Knight. guess Recession. Oh, since The Recession. yeahs I was going to say because like media then, like not just movies, but it's like their idea of like what's realistic is just, it's just going to be gritty. It's going to be fucking dark. And it's like, no, we can be real.
01:56:58
Speaker
We can be real with it, but still have hope. I feel like similarly, a lot of people are really vibing with the new Game of Thrones spinoff because besides having just like a smaller, more intimate scale, it's focusing on, I'm not a book reader, but it sounds like this is a thing that Martin cared about of showing of like, hey, yes, it's a shitty, bleak world, but actually...
01:57:21
Speaker
Being good does matter, like even if you're not rewarded for it all the time and maybe sometimes even punished for it. It's like it actually is like it's actually good to be good. It's like it like matters to be honorable in a world without honor, which is like I think a big reason that show is hitting right now.
01:57:37
Speaker
There's, ah you know, like ah there's this difference between doing something out of spite versus doing something because you believe in it. Right. And I feel it as though if you do something out of spite, if you do it out of hate, you're never going to succeed the same way that you would do if you succeeded, did it out of love. Right. And it's what is the pit but not doing everything that you do professionally with love, right? ah we've made jokes about like other professions that would have ah the pit treatment in quotations. But the reason for this joke made a difference
01:58:11
Speaker
Garbage man, you know, like, hey, somebody's got to do it, right? and Whatever kind of conversations they have. But this whole show has to be built around like empathy is the job. They have to do these things, not just because like it's like what like they have to do these things to save these people, but it's also because like the empathy is a part of the packaging. It's a part of like how do they get people in and out.
01:58:34
Speaker
So ah it's admirable to kind of have this kind of thing around right now. And ah yeah. That's all say you about that. Yeah, i think I think that's a ah good note to end on. um the We're both getting kind of sleepy. I feel like we don't even need to do do plugs. We don't need to have empathy. We're not doctors. So you guys can go fuck yourselves. Hey, hey, why don't you run backwards through a field of dick?
01:59:06
Speaker
I stole that line. i stole it. I'll be honest.
01:59:18
Speaker
Well, I won't be there the You were there the pair. You're building that day.