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The Pitt Season 2 Episode 8
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Langdon's Personality and Relationships
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I heard that there's
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he's right there
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that there's a live animal c t
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anywhere there's no moment. The Bits. So far. So far. We can't rule it out. Who knows? Dr. Langdon, that's how he chills down. You know, he just listens to some movie. Langdon's so fucking funny. He's... i I... Last week, I said, like, oh, I love ah attic characters who are, like, losers. And then I started to walk back the loser part. But do you correct to me? And say, like, no, he is a loser.
00:00:58
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And, like, I feel like and we we get so many good, like... ah Langdon as a dork moment. I mean, there's there's a nice moment too with ah Dr. McKay where, ah you know, that they have that in common, like that she's nine years sober. Although someone pointed out she said that in season one, apparently. She said, you know, nine years and whatever months. since it's like, oh, it's been a year. So she's just still saying nine. They they must have like, ah you know, when they were writing this season, they just like auto-completed from the last script. They're just like, how many...
00:01:32
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years. Yeah. Has she been sober? They just like text found it. Right. and And then they just copied and pasted it and they got to this part and they they forgot to add one. Yeah, exactly.
00:01:43
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i don't really care at the end of the day, but also it is a cinema sim. It is true. I like that they did bond over their shared addiction. And also, I think that there is something to be said about how she's much further along in her journey, right? Like 10 years. Nobody sees her that way. Nobody looks at her and says addict, right? And just by the nature of what's happened. I think it's why Langdon has that look after she says it. Like, because he's like, oh, I don't think of even, like, I don't think it even occurred to him to come to her for like any kind of support.
00:02:16
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For sure. Yeah. And he doesn't understand that like something like that, you know, people will get over it. And I do think that in this episode, we are starting to see a bit of that and we'll get to it.
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ah But it's the situation where he thinks that doing the work is like the space and the right words. Right. But really people need to come to him on their own terms
Langdon's Professional Challenges
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as well. Right. And you know, with Dorf's character, you know, like she's done the work. Nobody sees her that way. Nobody maybe even knew. Right. But there's, ah there's something to that, especially in the ways that former addicts carry themselves where they really want to lead with the right foot forward. So like, obviously we've talked about how Langdon is a loser, but also like he is trying to do the right thing in his circumstance. Yeah. He is trying, but but it ah almost feels like that he's like trying to, for like you said, people will come to it and it and he like wants it now. Like he's trying to speed run the steps almost, it feels like.
00:03:09
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It's like, can we just go back? Can we reset? Come on, guys, it's me, your buddy, Langdon. And like, I feel like we see that. Still smart. Yeah, I feel like we see that, especially in the Santos stuff, because he's just kind of like forcing himself into, you know, situations with that could easily have gone to someone else. ah But you're like, oh, so he's going to take this time to ah ah apologize. No, he doesn't apologize to her. He's just kind of like shoving himself in her face. And I'm like, so what's your plan there? Like, you just you're going to wait for her to...
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Like it's ah like we just said, wait for the three people to come to you. But like, he's like trying to do a misshapen version of both. Like, I'm not like, what what are you, what's this? What is this? I think there is an interesting chemistry with Santos and Langdon, not romantic, obviously more in a professional sense. And even in the first season, you can tell there was kind of like a push and pull thing, despite the, you know,
00:04:11
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the suspicions that Santos held and how she was proven right later on, right? ah I think that there is a thing where they both do inherently respect one another and they're upset that they can't get there fully. And last season, it was like Langdon was held back by that, right? And Santos would have liked to have been, you know, had that respect, right? And now it's flipped.
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Now ah Santos is the one who's withholding. But I think a bit in this episode, we are seeing... her like coming to terms almost. She isn't the same as Robbie. I think she has that moment with Robbie at the end of the episode, but I feel like if anybody by the end of the season is going to turn around on Langdon, it's going to be Santos. It's not going to Robbie.
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Oh, Doug, you're muted. Sorry. ah Some people are so sure that Robbie is going to forgive Langdon. of like, yeah, come on. That's the what the show is. It's lovey-dovey. Like, I think maybe if this was yeah ah ER r or something, like, i I don't know. But I think it it feels real that he wouldn't he wouldn't just let this go. and like, he begrudgingly continued to work with Langdon. But I don't think they're ever going to get back to, like, what they were.
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No, and and one thing that's important to point out too is in the last episode when they were on the rooftop and he says, I don't want you in my yeah ER, I think that's a bit of a threat. I think that's him being like, you know, I'm going on sabbatical for a couple months, right? By the time I get back, you shouldn't be here is like the ah the implicit thing that he's telling him, right? Right. And the The reality is is that like most of the people in the hospital are fine with Langdon.
00:05:50
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like It's really just Santos and Robbie who are really held back by it, right? Everybody else is fine to work but with Langdon, really, right? So it really comes down to themselves rather than like what he's actually done. And I'm not saying that, you know, like, oh, get over it. I'm saying that it's literally just something that's personal with each of them.
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They need to work through it if they're going to be
Ogilvy's Prejudices and Conflicts
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there. And like Langdon sees that he can and he thinks that he can. And there's ah there's a chance he just doesn't, right? There's a chance that like he says, fuck, this is too hard and leaves. And that's what Robbie and Santos are kind of counting on right now, right? But I do also see that like Things are going to get down to the wire, right?
00:06:34
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They're going to have to rely on each other a lot more very soon. And, you know... And he's very good at what he does. Like, I feel like you like that's just going to be like, if not win them over, be like, well, we understand your purpose because, like, you're fucking...
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You're like the LeBron James of the ER or something. I don't know. I don't watch sports. i but That's a person who's good at something, right? You're really good at intubating people and stuff like that. I think I've heard people say that at one point or another. Yeah. Speaking of intubation, we should talk about ah fucking Ogilvy. I want to just get right into Ogilvy in this episode.
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Insert some like evil sting, like some ominous music. Like, I don't know, the villain's theme from from something. Maybe just some like Dio, you know, just like some nice, good metal, you know, not not to represent his character, but to represent like, i don't know what we're going to do to him. Like, like the energy of getting, throwing him out of a van and then just like so stomping on him. Maybe like the sound could pan from one ear to the other, you know, like. Yeah. Yeah.
00:07:42
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m ah Yeah, this guy sucks still, you know, i mean like on purpose. Because I feel like he just went from being... Beginning of the season, he's co he's a cocky new kid. He's like, ah maybe he's just used to being the smartest guy in the room. Or just like, that that's how he feels at least that he is. in But like, they keep pushing it towards like, okay, is this is not just arrogance. This is like...
00:08:08
Speaker
Yeah, I don't know. he's He's straight. Yeah, he is straight up prejudice here. We see that. ah And this it's it's cool to explore this topic because there is a lot of like fat phobia in medicine. ah And so them to to tackle that head on. But like, yeah, the perfect character to make the villain in this circumstance who is just just like as soon as they see this guy's like, Lord, are you coming? Yeah.
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Making all kinds of like, oh he's going to break things just because he's around and stuff kind of jokes. and Okay, in he i will I will back him on one. He said this in the worst way possible, but I thought I had heard like anecdotally that like...
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they do use zoo, ah you know, like scale sometimes for if machine. I think it's like an urban legend. Okay. So, but he should know that that, because he's like actually went to school for medicine. So, and he's a smart person. So he should know that that's not a real thing. I'm dumb. I don't know about this stuff. We shouldn't have to know, you know?
Langdon's Leadership in Crisis
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Yeah. It'd issue if we knew. ah Howard, you do not want me operating on you. Let me just say that right now. Sorry, buddy. You know, like no amount of communication is going help you, you know. But the thing I really don't like about Ogilvy now, and obviously, again, it's all intentional, is that like, you know, usually at this point in the season is when things start to flip and we're kind of seeing all the things that were set up before starting to flip. And they're just going even further in him being unlikable. Which tells me that like maybe he's just going to keep being bad. Maybe he's just going to keep getting worse. You know, maybe he's just going to do something that everybody's going to. Maybe he's the hacker and he's just being a little shit in the ER because it's like, you know, how serial killers like come back to the scene and maybe try and embed themselves in the investigation, you know, and stuff. So like that, that he is like, you know, return. He's just hanging out at the hospital he could cause havoc on a digital and physical and emotional level.
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I hope that the season has to end with like that. Oakleby is like kidnapped the dying mother, right? Who's wearing the leg cast and he's like holding her hostage. And then like Langdon has to shoot a hit man style bullet into his brain and then leave the scene.
00:10:32
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and then everyone starts applauding. Exactly. They all know it's him, but he needs to just leave. um And that's how he gets Robbie's respect. Yeah. ah But the the the thing I like about the scene, though, is that something that we've talked about on previous episodes is about how there's like an um like ah a baseline respect held within all of the characters, right? That everybody who comes in through the door is going get treated the same. They're going to be as considerate and careful with everybody, right? And this episode was like a good re-up on that, where there's like, no, no, no, let's reestablish here. This is where our morals lie, and we're not going to let that shift. Yeah. Because Ogilvy doesn't respect, like, the human side of Like, to him, this is... Like, I don't know. It's telling that, like, yes, the having the shutdown so suddenly, like, that majorly inconveniences everyone. Thankfully, Joy has a photographic memory, ah which...
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I feel like is little, I would think it was a cheat if I didn't like her character and want her to have like something pivotal or cool to to do. ah because I don't think in real life, photographic memories like
Dana's Advocacy and Empathy
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work like that. Like, i I think, I feel like that's a, been a debunk thing too. Like the way it's depicted in like crime procedures, like I can just see the thing. And then it's like picture clear in my mind. It's like, I, I don't know.
00:11:51
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i think maybe that's bullshit. Yeah. I think you're lying to me right now. You never want that in a show or what have you. I'm just glad that she's not solving crimes. You know, like the fact that it is just to like this. I'm like, yeah, sure, whatever. That's fine. Well, and and it's almost like a punchline because it's like the escalation of like, oh, Whitaker got a picture. No, wait, he didn't. And like, I've seen people post a gif of like Santo's face. She stand off to the side. She's going, okay. Like when like looking down it, like like the immediately calling like, yeah, we didn't get it.
00:12:25
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And Nell King is going like, like she's like peering in and she's trying to see better, like with her eyes like all squinted. It's it's really funny. Yeah. And then so for her to be like, no, I remember the board and let's copy it down.
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Sorry. Where was I going with? Oh, when so when everything shuts down. When the shit hits the fan. When the shit hits the they have to majorly reconfigure how they do things. They're going old school. Like, they're easy jokes, but I do love all the, like, young people being like, what's a fax machine? Like, what is that? Like, I don't know. I like how our one-legged wonder is like, that is a fax machine. Like, he's so proud of people. Like, he's been happy about a fax machine.
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He takes pride in being the old man of the ER r or something. ah But he takes pride in it because he also like knows like everybody has a crush on him. Like it seems like not even just in the narrative of like the fandom. It seems like they've brought that element into the show where he's like, it seems like they're at least playing with it.
00:13:26
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Yeah. Mm hmm. And he's directing the next episode. like I'm interested to see what that is. That's where everyone fucks him in the next episode. No, that's that's the one where he's left the the hospital. He's left to go be behind the camera.
00:13:40
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Oh, right. Because he left to go with ah Howard to the other hospital. um So, but but when everything shuts down, everyone else is inconvenienced, but they're still like, their priority is the patient. So they want to fit, they're determined to figure out how to just keep things afloat. But...
00:13:59
Speaker
Ogilvy is the one who's like, just looks disgusted at the idea of this. He's like, this is the dark ages. Like, like the, like, I don't know, like is the appeal to medicine him? Like, i guess like the tech more techie side, like, like that he just wants to be on the cutting edge of something, you know? And because he's people who think they are the smartest people in the room will like being on the cutting edge of stuff. And so like, yeah, this is like almost like an insult to him. I don't know.
00:14:25
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Well, when you're more reliant on technology, right, you're able to, like, fill in gaps that you would usually fill in with knowledge, right? Instead with machinations, you know, or automation, right? So the moment that you remove a few steps, ah some people's methodology, just based on the way that they learn some of these processes, they come apart, right?
00:14:49
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And, you know, there are certainly people who are the same age or similar to the age of Ogilvy in that way. ER that are not having those same kinds of reactions. But there are some people, especially people who are like know-it-alls, where it's like their phone being there so they can like get the right answer or to have a book that's like right there. like That's an equal extension of their brain in their minds. They just see that as a part of them.
00:15:11
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So to be cut off from that is to almost... Because like, yeah, that's his his only value so far as has been knowing stuff. And it's like, you take that away, what good are you? Yeah.
00:15:23
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And like I do not put it past that guy where like he's having these conversations with everybody and then like in his off time in between times he's on his phone looking up things you know like. Like it just google yeah yeah like he's Googling stuff or he has chat GPT like doing a thing.
00:15:40
Speaker
Yeah 100 percent that's his vibe. ah So fuck him. Yeah. He's like saying shit about Howard. ah And Howard is like, you know, we don't learn too much about him, but he's, he's very sweet. Like, I think that's what makes it even more like the juxtaposition of how awful Olga is being like, he's just like the nicest dude. It's like a little bit of tragedy there that we hear about. the Like, like there was some kind of like fire and being immobilized from that is like, that's where all this way. Cause he was like,
00:16:12
Speaker
475 or something. Yeah. was a little the whole So, and like, they didn't even have to do it. Like if someone can just, you know, people people do get to that size. So like, but the, the fact that they, yeah, he has a very kind of like tragic, you know, even to someone like Ogilvy, like, you'd be like, well, come on, doesn't that logic out for you? That like that, what do you think would happen if someone's immobilized for X amount of time?
00:16:38
Speaker
Yeah, and ah obviously we get a bit of the information about his family, you know, his parents are dead, he's got an estranged sister. the Chances are, like, you know, he's in that state, he doesn't want to be in contact with his remaining family, right? So it's it's a situation where he's very considerate of others, but then also self-conscious of himself, and The constant apologizing for his weight, for the things that people have to do to make him better. It's all ah very selfless and it's a great foil to Ogilvy's callousness. Because he just keeps saying sorry and and thanking them. Like that's all he does. And I think there is kind of the task. I mean, they do say it out loud of like if it is something that they have to do, so that kind of surgery, it's like kind of like a 50 percent.
00:17:24
Speaker
ah percent like mortality rate because because of his size and I think going in he knows that this is like regardless of what it ends up being like this is going to be way worse because of his status and so but but he is still being like very pleasant through it all and like there was something kind of touching about that I think maybe it was just because We're getting the cut between this and then we're like circling back to the Dana ah scenes. to There was something that I was i was was get emotional during part, but like kind of just like when he just says like, they thank you. Howard says, thank you. I was I was probably already emotional from like some of the Dana stuff. And so I was like, oh, Howard, good guy. i would like to see Howard fight Brendan Fraser from the whale, you know, like so standard cage match, you know, coming from the top rope kind of thing.
00:18:17
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um Yeah, I agree with everything you just said, you know. ah It's a situation where he's just the nicest, sweetest dude in the world. And when he we're given that time to just kind of stew in the respect for him, when the ogilvy of it all is kind of pushed to the side and forgotten about, ah it's it's ah what the pit does best.
00:18:37
Speaker
Just, you know, being kind to other people, giving them the care that they need. He's leaving the hospital and he's making jokes on his iPad, right? Everything is wrapped up in a very nice tight bow where even if the circumstances are grim, we know that people have at least ah the clear-headedness of mind to be kind to one another.
00:18:57
Speaker
Yeah. um So the he's like pretty much like one of the main new patients. But we do another big chunk of the episode is we circle back to Dana. And, ah you know, last we saw that rape victim like left the room. Like, you know, she was like, I can't do this. And you weren't sure. Like, is this is she like done, done or like was she just need more time? Because as Dana clearly states, like she cannot leave the room until it's it's over. Um, so she's just there waiting and she, she comes back and they, they finish it. This is the part that got me, uh, like I started to well up when, when she thanks Dana's like, I'm glad you were here today.
00:19:40
Speaker
And it was like, that just speaks to the, cause like they both know this fucking sucks. Like not just what happened to her is of course, this is the worst day of her life. And then to do this on top of it is like rubbing salt in the wound. Like no one on either And like, like data knows that this is awful. She's trying to make it like go down as smoothly as she can. But like, like we said last week, there's a like, it's just the procedure and coldness, inherent coldness of it. Like you can't, can't really sugarcoat that. Like it's just, it's just procedure and it sucks. Yeah. The key word there is procedure, right? And with the last episode, we saw so much of that exactly. And part of the power of that episode was just letting all of that play out.
00:20:23
Speaker
And now what's interesting in this episode is we're getting like counterbalancing with what did had just happened, you know, with the victim running out of the room. We now have it so ah other people are asking for Dana and they're almost like upset that she's not there. And they're kind of trying to rush her, you know, being like, get out of here. We need you on the floor. Right. And she has to be there because not just because of ah procedure, but also for the this woman to make sure that she gets the care that she needs.
00:20:53
Speaker
Right. Right. may be inconveniencing all of these other people, but she needs to do it. And then the ultimate knife twist of all of this, it's like a sick joke at the end of this entire, like multiple episode arc. Oh, the the fridge, the fridge where the the rape kid goes. And there's one from how long ago? Two weeks. two weeks It's been two weeks.
00:21:12
Speaker
And I think they, she said at max, it's like three days. They, they're, the police are supposed to collect it in, which makes sense. Like you're just sensitive. It doesn't matter if it's refrigerated. I would assume there is a, like you will get less clear testing the longer something's just sitting around. Like, so, uh, and just the, even, even if the, even if the evidence was still perfectly fine two weeks later, that's still unacceptable because it's just like, yeah. you've, you've just, you're, you're saying that this woman doesn't matter to you. Exactly.
00:21:45
Speaker
That this is not ah ah important. And it's like, okay, so like what, i mean, I've already my- It's also spitting in the face of everything that Dana just did. Right. Like think about all of the sacrifice that Dana just did. You know, like if let's say that, you know, she was like, whatever, I'll go on to the floor. She may have helped the whole, you know, power outage thing a lot more. Right. And maybe everybody would be more happier with her.
00:22:09
Speaker
Right. But she did the right thing. You know, she had to do that, you know, and for her to get that evidence thrown back in her face, it makes her feel like all of that hard work doing the right thing is for nothing. And that ultimately she's not actually helping anyone.
00:22:24
Speaker
Because it has to feel so wrong after what she just went through with, I believe, Lana is the the patient's name. And because, like, yeah, it's saying everything she Dana did was for nothing, but then also for what Lana went through. It's like, I had to put this poor girl through all this. And then you're telling me that, like, you're not even picking this shit up?
00:22:41
Speaker
Like, yeah, Dana is going to be a part of the trauma of that day. And she knows that. Right. So it's like it's it's a lose situation no matter what. But then it's like everybody loses if there's no accountability that can be delivered in the end.
00:22:57
Speaker
So it's a really grim piece to put in this episode, but we get that great moment where she tells off the police on the phone. And I also just like the fact that, ah you know, even if we have Mr. One-Legged Wonder running around with the police, we got a quick little A-Cab.
00:23:12
Speaker
Well, because it has the juxtaposition of, she straight up says, like, we will drop everything. Because, like, yeah, the injured SWAT guy, they they do drop everything to save his life. And it's like, okay, so...
00:23:26
Speaker
you guys do your job. That's the very least, like they're not even asking for special treatment. It's like literally just do your job. Exactly. Exactly. um Whitaker is being majorly sidelined. Wouldn't you agree? I feel like I haven't like seen or heard much from him in like three episodes.
00:23:44
Speaker
ah We haven't seen much from him, which makes me think they're building to something because last episode we got, we had Robbie asking about, um I believe Amy is the the woman with the farm and the baby that he goes and and helps out with. And like we we, we talked about like, yeah there's like ethical concerns there maybe that's what Robbie's like interest in it was or just being protective protective of Whitaker but either way i could see there being some kind of confrontation you know either between him and Santos or him and Robbie of being like yeah let's let's like assess like what you're doing here or like is this good for you
00:24:24
Speaker
Mm hmm. Speaking of confrontation, too, ah like it's not it didn't happen this episode, but it's happening next episode.
Melissa King's Legal Troubles
00:24:31
Speaker
But ah Melissa King has her, you know, you ah ah trial to coming up very soon. Oh, that's one of the best scenes of of this episode is ah who's the doctor who like came in early and she was like trying to take a nap like a couple episodes ago. I forget our name.
00:24:49
Speaker
Yeah. i' I'm, I'm blanking on it, but, uh, she ruled, Oh, Dr. Ellis. Yes. Yes. So she comes down and cause we, this is the confirmation that this is the spinal tap. We, We were right because we were guest. This is Spinal Tap.
00:25:05
Speaker
This is Spinal Tap. ah So, yeah, Dr. Ellis is saying the lawsuit's frivolous. The mother is claiming that the Spinal Tap caused brain injuries. It's like, no, that all had to be like the kid had fucking untreated measles. So like, like that.
00:25:22
Speaker
That could have you know caused that, but it like a smile tap was perfect. and ah that That should be, that's like the most reassuring thing she can say to to King, but you can tell that King's like still not settled, you know, like that she's like, thanks, I guess.
00:25:36
Speaker
ah But just the way that scene starts where she pulls her out into the hall is like, like I asked how it went, but we're not allowed discuss She's like, um we're not discussing anything. This is a monologue. She just like straight up just tells King like, yeah. Yep, this is what it is.
00:25:51
Speaker
And you're good. That monologue was for us because I think both of us know that King is going to fucking bomb that trial. I don't think that she's going to do well at all. I think i mean, the the actual physical evidence is in her favor. But yes, I believe that she is going to fumble in a way, especially because i don't know if you saw the preview.
00:26:12
Speaker
I don't know if she's like physically being brought in, but there's something wrong with like her sister is like sick. Oh, like right. Oh, no. So, so, so so she's going to be, yeah she yeah, she's like freaked out, like trying to figure out how to help her sister. And now they're like, we need you upstairs. it's like, God,
00:26:28
Speaker
ah ah Fuck. She's going to bomb. She's going to bomb it. Because like there's no, especially, the odds were already like low of success. But now if she's like got her sister on her mind, like that's like, i yeah, that's her whole world. So. You know how like anti-vaxxers will always point to like random cases, you know, that try to like prove their points or whatever. Right. But then like the moment that you look into it, it just kind of evaporates. Like the the evidence that they provide just does not exist in a meaningful way. It's just kind of.
00:26:59
Speaker
bad circumstances. It feels like Mel King is walking into one of those where she's going to, you know, this case is going to be used not only against her, but as like a, you know, mouthpiece for a bunch of stupid people. Fox News is foaming at the mouth about, they hear about this. They're like, oh, yeah.
00:27:17
Speaker
They're just going to put up her face, you know, Mel King just like, you know, like it's done. Woke liberal doctor gives kid brain injury. Mm-hmm. Oh, man. It's it's just a ah situation that's not going to work at all. and and And unfortunately, like, I have experience with these kinds of people where it's like they they blame treatment that they were getting at the hospital at the same time as their kid being sick as, like, the hospital getting their kid sick, you know? And it's like, it's it's really sad because... It's like like, let's look at what happened before they got to the hospital.
00:27:54
Speaker
Well, that for sure. Right. But then it's also like it's really sad because these parents are like coming from a position of selfishness. Right. Like they're like, well, it can't be anything that was happening at home. I treat them great.
00:28:07
Speaker
You know, they instead of it being like something that's for the betterment of their kid, it's trying to pass the blame. That's the way I see it, at least. that's why No, that's straight up like if were if we haven't been blunt enough about it, that's what anti-vaxxers are. They're selfish. like It's like you're you're saying like even if the ceo the bullshit anecdotes you were trying to pull out of your ass, if there was even a percentage of merit to those – you should still get, um then there isn't, but you should still, even if there was like a percentage that like something could go wrong from, from something like that or like put the vaccine, you get it anyway. Cause it's like the, not the consequences of not doing it are so much worse.
00:28:47
Speaker
So, ah the, the fact that you're like, you're not going to make that decision all. You're just saying that like my child's healthcare, like it, like my, my certainty in my beliefs is more important than my kids. My child's health. and And not even your own child's health, but the health of, like, everybody around you and all that, right? Like, it becomes like a sovereign citizen scenario where, like, you think that all that matters is the individual. And ah the idea of a collective is, you know, gross and commie bullshit, right?
00:29:20
Speaker
So it's it's a situation that... it's all rooted in conservative brain worms all the way down. ah But, you know, with this person, they were the most annoying patients from the first season. So it's perfect that they are the ones who are coming back and are the ones who are coming back for Mel King, who is like the most, you know,
00:29:39
Speaker
If there's anybody who you would be like, no, I'm in their corner, it's King, you
Robbie's Emotional Struggles
00:29:43
Speaker
know? So to put her in this kind of position, it'ss it's great because we know that we want to be there for her in that sense where, like, like everything's in her side. But because of how mousy she is and how much everything is being plated up, it's just not going to work.
00:29:58
Speaker
I mean... ah So I don't know how these things work. Does the hospital provide you with an attorney? I'm sure. Yeah. Right. So they should probably have really fucking good lawyers then. So like ah like it kind of – and they should have good enough lawyers that take one look at Mel King. It's like you're not going to understand. I'll talk. Let's find a way around this.
00:30:25
Speaker
you're only only contact ah communicate in head nods you cannot speak oh yeah i'll ask you a series of yes no questions and immediately you'll get down or something uh the yeah uh it's just a ah no win scenario we i feel like we're walking off of a bridge here ah but you know i'm excited for it because it's going to be fun television you know like it's this is the good kind of trouble you Well, I'm assuming we're going to follow her, ah you know, like, and that'll be one of the things we're cutting to, ah like, unless they just do the thing where she's gone for an episode. But that would be weird, especially if they are going to introduce the element of her sister having a crisis. Then we kind of need to see the breaking point of, like, those two things colliding of, like, you know, like the moment that that it all like really impedes her ability to perform or testify.
00:31:19
Speaker
Now, this is just like an edgelord, devil's advocate-ass take, right? But like, what if her sister's not actually ill? what if What if her sister actually was just like, you know,
00:31:31
Speaker
Simple stomach flu or something, you know, something. She's had gas. Yeah. Yeah. Just a little indigestion. Right. And that's all it was. Right. So like she hears how stressful it is, you know, like, oh, no, my sister's come in. She just came in. and She hears this. She goes off to the deposition. Right. The moment she leaves, you know, Langdon, you know, checks out her ears and is like, no, she's good.
00:31:52
Speaker
You know, like maybe yeah maybe it's something as simple as that, you know, like who knows. Right. Right. Yeah, because i'm i'm not i'm not I'm not, like, actually worried worried about her. I mean, maybe anything can happen, but I i i just feel like the way the season's... We just lost Louis. They're not going to do anything to the King's sister. And speaking of Louis... He got his wings. Digby, who is paid by... i believe this is Skinny Peter from... What is name, Peter? Skinny Pete from Breaking Bad, one of the, like, you know...
00:32:26
Speaker
Jesse's like chunky, like, uh, you know, funky is like, yeah. Uh, the one with the good voice. Yeah. I didn't recognize him, uh, right away, but like, i also liked the moment of, um, like they're using his full name, like John Digby. And he's like, it's just Digby. but, but it was like, yeah, where were you? Cause they had lost track of him. He's like, Oh, I went to see Louie. He was my friend. And and then you like dings the but the bell they put there for like all the like that's for when they have a room clear is to hit the ding. He's like, yeah, he got it. He got his wings. that So sweet.
00:33:02
Speaker
That was probably the sweetest moment of the episode for me. And I and i'll also kind of get the impression that Digby is going to be sticking around a lot more. Like I feel like we're going to see him throughout the rest of the season now. And I'm not complaining. Digby is a good hang.
00:33:15
Speaker
Yeah, he's cool. Like, I mean, we already have characters who are like connected to the world of the unhoused. And maybe this could be something for Whitaker to to jump on in terms of like giving him some. Invite him over to Santos's.
00:33:27
Speaker
yeah It becomes three. scal Yeah. Santos, Whitaker, Digby. It's a perfect combination.
00:33:39
Speaker
That's a spinoff right there. ah Fuck the cops. Yeah, I'd watch that for sure. But they know like we know he's on the street team, so like you know he probably already has a rapport with dig you know like ah Digby, so... you know I agree that I think he's going to be around. be interesting to see how they use them and like what we because like things are still relatively calm, even though they had to shut the computers to calm, you know, for an yeah ER and like what what the like like there hasn't there's not like an influx of craziness that they haven't been able to keep up but Like they had to adjust on the fly, but they're like, OK, things feel like they're kind of stable. Yeah. on stable ground and like their ability to handle it. There's going to be like another shoe drop, I feel like of like, okay, now we have an influx or like something is like pushing our limits of like what we're able to handle.
00:34:30
Speaker
Yeah, it doesn't feel like things have fully hit the fan just yet. I actually feel like the ending of the episode is telling me that it's more stressful to Robbie than anything, kind of similar to what was happening in the first season, right?
00:34:44
Speaker
Where like the stress of it all got to be too much, right? And I'm starting to get a little shades of that again, where like maybe this isn't like the end of the world for everybody, but it might be a little too much for Robbie right now. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, both seasons, if if he's having a similar trajectory, would be like it's like that that water torture where he just slowly drops like a little drop water. And it's like you just kind of lose it gradually. But it says it's not like you're actually drowning. It's just like the the thing of like ah being being dropped with with water. So like that that little little pricks here and there is like keeps keeps poking at him. And how long is he going to be able to? Because he's already taking the sabbatical.
00:35:25
Speaker
Because he like this is his form of like self-care and like meant you know addressing his mental health. like I think he knew knew he had to do something. And so that's the best that he can come up with.
00:35:36
Speaker
ah But it's also interesting that he keeps mentioning ah a bike guy who was going to come. Like if he needed some work done, like was going to do some...
00:35:47
Speaker
some work on his like his his bike in the garage. And i'm wondering like, okay, so where's that guy? Because he's like, I haven't been able to find Duke. Do you think that like ah Duke also died in a motorcycle accident? Like all the dozen other people that we heard about already? Yeah.
00:36:04
Speaker
Well, because there's all... They keep bringing in motorcycle, you know, accident victims. It's like, so we need to, like, have a fatal one that's, like, directly connected to Ravi, maybe, to just, like, send that... Because, like, he's been brushing it off when other people, like, kind of side-eye him when they have, like, someone who, like, ate shit on their motorcycle. He's like, yeah, well, whatever. He lies to Cyler-Hell. He's like, you know, you do not.
00:36:29
Speaker
no we saw, you know? Like, I feel like... ah Duke should come in. Bill Duke comes in. Oh my God. If, if Bill Duke comes in on a motorcycle, like not even like comes into the parking lot, he comes into the yeah ah ER.
00:36:44
Speaker
motorcycle And like when he gets off of the motorcycle, just like two beautiful women in bikinis, like grab both of his hands, you know? Yeah. Hell yeah. You know, it's like really old fashioned and outdated. Yeah.
00:36:59
Speaker
But deserved because that's that's what, you know, that's the treatment a king deserves. Everybody wants to be there. Everybody's happy he's there.
00:37:10
Speaker
Oh, yeah, no, no one's asking why did you drive motorcycle into here. so it's like I think one of the more ah most interesting storylines this season has been Roxy, the terminal mother with with with the now broken leg.
Roxy's Terminal Journey
00:37:25
Speaker
Because it just, I feel for her so much and and the fact that like, keeps adding like the husband brings the kids which makes it more of a difficult situation and now her parents are there although to their credit the dad kind of quickly as he's like think it's getting crowded in here like let's go for ice cream and uh the mama has this look in her eyes like because the one son doesn't want to go and and she's like kind of just like almost like begging him like cant please like yeah Like, yeah, I need to to be alone.
00:37:58
Speaker
um And so i got I got to shout out that grandpa, though, for being a room reader. Right. Like he he went in there. You just see him with a couple looks and he knew exactly what was going on. And it's it's heartbreaking. Yeah. mean, because he could easily be in denial, too, of like, that's my daughter. i don't want her to. But I think he is just, you know, like Robbie said, the most selfless thing you can do is, like, respect her wishes. And, like, I think he could tell, like, she wants to be here and...
00:38:25
Speaker
she doesn't want you guys here when she dies. Like that, that's like, yeah she wants to just do that privately. um and then Robbie brings up, uh, I mean, so they're, they're talking about her pain management and the level of more of a, she's already on. And he's like, yeah, let's just bump it up a little bit. And I think Javadi or someone says like, that's like a little high, isn't it? And, and, you know, he brings up the idea of like, you treat, you're treating for comfort. It's like comfort care. You're treating for comfort and to make them as comfortable as possible in their final, you know, what remaining time they have left. And if stop there is an effect... Dr. Robbie pulls them aside and he goes, have you heard of Dr. Gavorkian, you know?
00:39:08
Speaker
See, to me, this is different than assisted suicide because it's just like, we want to just help someone be comfortable until they pass. And it's like, they have decided that, that you know, they...
00:39:20
Speaker
It's basically like, yeah, do not resuscitate, you know? So it's like, don't like if something happens as ah as a side effect of you're treating my comfort, like, i yeah, let it that happen. You know, that's what she wants. Like, I think he can clearly see that it's like she's ready to go. Like, I think she's like, if I can only imagine how hard her life was before, but now with a broken leg, like, I think she really was doing the math. Like when they were talking about like all the stuff, they're good, you know, the...
00:39:47
Speaker
a death doula would get for her home is like, she doesn't want to do that. Like, it's like, no, I think this is it. i think that like, just given what we've seen with the family, right, to a degree, she was being kept alive, right? Like, it's not to say that, you know, should like, she was not allowed to die until this moment or anything, but I could get the impression that she had to put on a face a bit more. She had to pretend to be a bit stronger than she was, right?
00:40:12
Speaker
And now that she's in this instance, like, She can't fake it anymore. It's it's time. It's done. And ah whatever kind of, ah you know, good moment the husband thinks they can have is just going to be trauma for everyone. I'm going to go back into that room for a second. It's like ah her kid loses the cell phone service at the same time as everything it was blank. It's like, imagine that. Like this kid is like knows how depressing of a situation were in. And now they can't even get their TikTok feed. Right. That's sad. You know? Yeah. Yeah. And when it comes to, ah you know, Robbie doing this, you know, thing about ah helping her along, you know, she's going, you know, it's a matter of time. Regardless of what they do, she she will die like that. That's just an a certainty. And she's made peace with that.
00:40:56
Speaker
She's made peace with that. That's the most important part. She's like, it doesn't feel as though she is clinging on as much as her husband is. Right. it's It's like she's ready to let go and he's holding her tightly. And it's like, you gotta, you gotta let me go.
00:41:10
Speaker
And I think the show's threading the needle in a nice way in the sense that it's not making him seem like he's clingy to such a selfish degree. Like, it feels very human. It feels like, yeah, of course, love of his life is about the same. loves, you he's a wife guy. he loves his wife. yeah they Lock him up forever for being a wife guy. i like that that's a term. It just means guy who loves his wife. Yeah. Well, so rare. The you're supposed to do.
00:41:38
Speaker
Yeah. you guys suck so much, you know, there's such raging misogynists that like when there's one guy who's like, yeah, my wife's cool, you know, she makes nachos, you know, like, oh, now he's the best person ever.
00:41:54
Speaker
Yeah, but yeah, I think I think it's true. Like in having the kids there just makes it even harder because like, you know, like you never want to see your children in that kind of pain or like the or the idea of like the fear of them being without you. But it's like also they can't they just can't deny reality anymore. Like this is this is coming. This is happening.
00:42:18
Speaker
Yeah. And, ah you know, when it when it does come, it'll be probably even worse than Louis in the sense that, like, this is what the whole show has been building up for the still season. Right. it'll be very intensive. This is this is definitely going to be like third act, like big crime moment or whatever.
00:42:36
Speaker
And I can see it maybe getting slightly messy and in terms of how the father responds to it, because like maybe he finds out they upped her morphine. And then if she does pass, you know, I'm not not saying this is going to become like next season's lawsuit. Every season there's there's a Kings back in the court.
00:42:56
Speaker
they just have to have malpractice lawsuit from like a previous season's case. I mean, that'd be fun thing to to thread to do, but no, I think it's just in terms like in the immediate grief, you know, you need someone to blame like how last season Jake got upset with Robbie about, you know, ah his girlfriend not making it that, that, you know, the the father might need somewhere you know, mistakenly places his frustrations in, in that scenario. And yeah, I could see him, know, Yeah, I don't know, like yelling at Robbie or someone.
00:43:28
Speaker
who We still haven't seen Jake this season, right? Did they mention where Jake was? I forget. I feel like he has not brought him up at all, which makes me wonder what happened after he pushed Jake out of that room. It has this breakdown. like I'm like, did you not talk to him again? Like, you know, it's been a year. He was flat he's like, i got i just got to burn that bridge. Kid kid saw me cry.
00:43:55
Speaker
I can't let him... He did say that he was going to grieve her more than he would. You know, like, that that is a pretty, like... That's a crazy thing to say. i Like, i get I get, like, the idea of where he's coming from, of, like, he's haunted by all these losses. But then we've also pointed out...
00:44:12
Speaker
It's a confession, but we've also pointed out it's kind of self-important and full of shit because, like, he did not remember that the farmer died. So, like, you were the one that said he was probably going to die last season. You remember that. It's a nice sentiment, right? But it's like...
00:44:30
Speaker
this This is kind of where this season's interesting, too, where it's like there's a lot of like these ah things that they do, right, for the betterment of their crew, right? But a lot of what's being called into question is if these are the most efficient ways of doing it, right? And like, obviously, the AI stuff's been brought into this a little bit to like, you know, this is the future, right? But then the fact that the power's gone out immediately, that's out of the question entirely, right? Wow. like that Santos asked, is the generative AI still going to be out? like, oh, you sweetie, she's really out of it.
00:45:05
Speaker
that that's Oh, I think she's being sarcastic. I don't know. She seemed a little genuine for a second, but I don't know. Anyway, sorry, I didn't mean to interrupt your flow.
00:45:15
Speaker
No, no, it's all good. like the The thing that I like is that Santos will probably be completely backlogged on her paperwork. That's just out the window.
00:45:26
Speaker
ah i feel like ah we're also leading... I mean, we're gearing up for her to make a major... yeah something bad is going to happen because like she... we've We've seen her nodding off. I mean, like like that she's really like pushing it, pushing her limits today. And I feel like there's going to be some something to come of it. and Maybe that mends the bridge to to Langdon of like that, like she has a moment a moment of weakness and...
00:45:53
Speaker
ah that like it humbles her or something a little bit or I don't know. I don't know what' what's going to happen because like we mentioned before that Langdon's kind of just like forcing himself into situation with this patient that Santos has of of this this like party girl like a bit her tongue. Bit off her tongue. Yeah.
00:46:13
Speaker
And I like that when they see Langdon they're like, oh, your doctor is hot. And then Santos, you see like a quick eye roll from her. Mm-hmm. All of this stuff is perfect because like it's a situation where everybody in the room is just like, yeah, Langdon's the best, and Santos is just like, yeah, this guy sucks. But it's also like, again, in that in the air, I can feel that there's still like a push and pull that's happening. Yeah. You know, like when the fact that she calls back, she the fact that she calls back to season one when I might have been with Louis when he was like, you want to guess his blood alcohol level? and And she was like, why would you want to do that? And he's like, I don't know, because it's fun. And she does that. Yeah.
00:46:57
Speaker
She says that about the drunk girl and then like the look she made, like she looks straight at him. It's like, I don't know, because it's fun. And then to also bring up, Joy doesn't know, I don't think she knows this about Langdon, but like when they're talking about what they can recommend for for the patient, like, i don't know, recommend AA or something. And, you know, Santos like, yes, ands that. And it's like, yeah, it just creates a vibe in the room. I think...
00:47:23
Speaker
Joy immediately clocks that something is going on between them. She could she could have not have known that like saying that would would be like leading to that. But like the fact that there is that energy there after that is is in the air that it's like, ah okay. so she she That's probably the best reaction shot of this episode. Every episode has the best reaction shot. This was probably the funniest one in my books.
00:47:49
Speaker
The one where Joy clocks the T? Yeah, exactly. yeah She's standing on business. Mm-hmm. Um, yeah, no, uh, other major things that happened in this episode. Um, we got some more alishimi business, you know?
00:48:08
Speaker
What did we think? We haven't brought up, did we bring up her mysterious phone call to neurology she did like last episode? They're they're setting up some backstory for her, but being real, weirdly mystery, but the show has ever done like a mystery box for, I mean, i mean it's an interesting way to do a new baby.
00:48:27
Speaker
well, we have a mystery baby. So yes. But then also, but like for a character, like to introduce them and be like, there's something about them. You don't know, you know it's like, okay, so what is it? Tell me. so But the fact that there's been certain patients throughout the season that seem to like be triggering something for one. At first it was like the the iping the baby. Yeah.
00:48:48
Speaker
Yeah. I think that something like she's got some kind of traumatic thing and that's what it's all about. Right. And I think that the big it makes it totally makes sense that the two big questions on the show still right now being Alishimi and that baby. I think that there's a reason like there's a reason for those two being the big lingering questions. so I think it's because they're linked.
00:49:07
Speaker
Yeah, I would agree they're linked. to I'm just curious, like, how does that, like because, like, if neurology is involved, then, like, I'm like, oh, does she have, like, ah two or two? or Like, I don't know. Like, is there some kind of neurological, like, thing that she's dealing with? Maybe, like, a postpartum thing? Like, who knows, right? Like, it'll tell us. Like, we we'll find out, right? Maybe they've already alluded to it even further, and maybe I missed it, right? Yeah. The thing with these subplots is they're not given a lot of time in any of the episodes.
00:49:38
Speaker
Like, i feel like Alashimi is, like, usually is a foil for other people in other scenes. So when she does get those little character moments and stuff, they're very rare. and but're we're starting to get more of them now where she's, like, one-on-one with people.
00:49:50
Speaker
Yeah, it's going to come out sooner or later. I'm yeah i'm just interested how that all shakes out. And will that, once that is out in the open, whatever her ah backstory is. Like, I feel like it'll make it'll be something sad that it endears Langdon to her. Like, that he, like, understands her ah a little more or something. I mean, it still is fucking bullshit that, like... Like none of no one consulted him about the fucking they're shutting down all the computers. I mean, it seemed like that she went to consult with IT t and then immediately the CEO came down was like, we're shutting down. So like i if I'm being generous, maybe she just learned about it and didn't have as but that much lead time. But I feel like she could have looped him in. Even just saying that you're going to IT like it was like, hey, they called me up there. Yeah.
00:50:43
Speaker
I'll let you know. Like, there could be some shit going on. she She has not been fully on the level with everybody. And you can feel that, right? She's supposed to stand in for Robbie once all of this is done. But, like, she doesn't act like a team player fully. She's still, like, operating from her own perspective primarily, right? She doesn't feel like a team player or a team leader. Like, you're, you like, trying to imagine, like, a scenario where Robbie's not here and she's...
00:51:12
Speaker
You know, coach. And it's like, i that doesn't feel right.
Mohan's Career Uncertainty
00:51:16
Speaker
Like I haven't, you haven't really seen, she's been in the role of an observer and she keeps saying that like, i just want to see how you do things, but it's like, okay, so are you part of this or not? Because like, she is still like inputting, giving input on patients care. And usually when she's in scenarios, she like leaves very quickly, right? Like it's usually like she's there, she observes for a bit and then she's out, right? She leaves before Robbie does and usually Robbie's in and out, right? So like it's very interesting how she's been positioned that way throughout this whole season. I like her a lot as a character. Like like I love the way that she's being performed I think that the way that she's written, there's a lot of like big intrigue there. And she does have a capacity to joke around, you know, so it's like, I'm interested about this. But also, a large part of me is side eyeing a lot of the mysterious mystery that still lingers. Yeah, I i i guess I am. so i'm I'm not, like, annoyed by it. It's just, like, it stands out compared to, like, how they write other characters. Like, it it it yeah feels... it It borders on being gimmicky for a show that doesn't need stuff like that, where it's, like, you can just... Or...
00:52:24
Speaker
Because it's something that the characters don't know. I think that's why I'm giving it a pass. It's like, because it's like, well, we're in the same situations as the rest of the crew that she's new to us and we don't know her deal. So we're going to find out when they find out. So it's like, so if it's character motivated, like...
00:52:40
Speaker
Right. Exactly. Even though that felt like less of a mystery box and it was just like, as soon as she was clocking stuff last season, I was like, Langdon's like doing drugs. some And it's cool.
00:52:56
Speaker
oh like this This guy is cooler than I thought. Maybe we had to hang out with this guy. i thought he was just some dork. i thought he was just a nerd, a stupid doctor nerd, but no, he's cool. But when when when it comes to um ah everything we're saying with Alashimi, you know, like it's, you know, with with whatever it could be, you know, like it's, we're on the fence because she has been cozying up with ah the CEO of this hospital. She's been the one who's been pushing the AI initiatives, right? It seems like she's in this like kind of like neoliberal, you know,
00:53:34
Speaker
abundance style like ideology right and she seems careerist in a way that the other doctors don't seem to be you know like there's like in even on on the note of uh careers like mohan she has that moment with mohan who uh mohan's not sure like which way she wants to go in terms of like her uh you know what kind of message she wants to specialize in in Alice Sheeby just throws out geriatric ah care because she was talking earlier with like a patient. People were joking online. It's like not not because of the older patient this episode. It's like because she was matching up Jackass. Yeah, that's right. She's an expert in geriatric care.
00:54:16
Speaker
She's like ah making plans with him about which retirement home he's going to go to in five years. And she's like... You know, she's ready, you know. um But yeah. that I also didn't expect her to throw that out. I mean, but then it Jen was like, oh okay, so that's why there was a scene with her and that patient earlier. so it like it It looped that back around. Although...
00:54:38
Speaker
Doesn't seem like like and not just a surprising way, like Javadi's dad last episode being like, hey, you have options of what you can do. She seems intrigued by the possibilities. ah Mohan didn't. She was surprised by the, you know, ah geriatrics suggestion. But it didn didn't even seem like that she was interested in biting that it was like, ah, I don't know if that's for her.
00:55:04
Speaker
But I don't know she if she knows what's for her. Well, that, right? And also with with a lot of Mohan was saying, like she was ah talking about a lot of specialty fields, like fields where she would make money, right? And something like geriatrics, right? There's not a lot of money there, a B, it's kind of boring. And C, like, you know, for zooming out big picture here, right? Like,
00:55:25
Speaker
with with it comes Because we know she's a at least a little bit of ah an adrenaline junkie. Like from last season, she was the one last season yeah of like after she drilled the hole and stuff that like the like she wanted to stay. Like she was like looking for stuff to do. And it was like way past the end of her ship. We're like, you gotta go home. my And you're like, this is adrenaline high. So like, yeah, geriatrics doesn't sound like a fit.
00:55:48
Speaker
Well, there's that, right? But then there's also like the incoming like crisis that's going to happen with senior care, right? Because the fact of the matter is, is like there's going to be a big lopsided nature of that where there's going to be a bunch of people who need care and there's not going to be enough people to care for them. There's not going to be enough residency homes and stuff like that. So what Alashimi is like suggesting to Mohan in this situation is like, here, like enjoy like a few years of like what happened during COVID, right?
00:56:14
Speaker
That's essentially what's going to end up happening if she goes down that route, right? She'll probably make some kind of money doing that. It'll probably look really good on her resume and she'd be helping people for sure, right? Well, because she does like she's going into a nightmare.
00:56:27
Speaker
That she wants to find a specific way that she can help. Like, she was the one, I think, last season that brought up the idea the king of like all the doctors having a special sauce, you know, or something.
00:56:39
Speaker
i you know, she had, ah you know, but like it was like a research grant or something for like looking in like disparity and racial medical care and stuff. So that's like why she had the interest in the one patient who ah last last season. ah But, you know, she throws out to Alashimi was like, well, you know, administration cut the funding. ah and and then And then they both stood up and it like flicked off the screen. They're like, fuck Trump. Fuck guys. Fuck. Free Palestine.
00:57:13
Speaker
Yeah, exactly. They were just doing all of it. They shouted out the Ellisons like, Warner Brothers, no, they're free. we got Suck my dick, David Ellison. Which was crazy because they must have filmed this weeks ago and they they still put that in the episode. So I'm like, wow, they kept it current.
00:57:31
Speaker
it it was It was filmed like old, like 60s cartoon, sorry, not cartoon, but like superhero shows where you'd see the face of the character, but then the lips were cut out and they were just yeah a human speaking,
Systemic Healthcare Issues
00:57:44
Speaker
you know? like that but Yeah, it was either going to be Allison or the Netflix CEO, whatever his yeah name is.
00:57:49
Speaker
Or Neff Campbell, who knows? Neff Campbell announces her bid to buy HBO Brothers. All of it. She's going to buy Paramount. She's going to buy Warner Brothers, Neve Campbell. she was waiting for that paycheck to clear from Scream 7. That's what it was, actually. She saw the long game.
00:58:09
Speaker
i mean, shes she may be evil, but she's sinking ahead. two steps ahead. We're all one we're one step, maybe a step and a half. you know maybe she's She's playing 4D chess. She doesn't give a shit if she tanks the legacy of the franchise that is the reason she has a career. Who gives a shit? Hey, those con appearances, those fan expos, they're going to pay like dividends like no matter what. you know So all this is just icing on the cake.
00:58:35
Speaker
Yeah. ah So, yeah, that I put I jokes aside, I do like that they directly i like when the show gets woke, you know, the fact that they're not. I mean, because that is a real thing that like the funding, like so much.
00:58:51
Speaker
medical shit and research has been like, we totally slept like, that's where the excess government spending that we can cut is. It's definitely not like, like the fucking, however many billions we just added to like ISIS budget or that bullshit or, know, For sure. Just cut the military budget in half. It would never happen. But I'm like, we would still have the biggest rock rock your cock out military, even if you just have our spending. Like, I, again, I don't want us to have even that. But like, you know, was like, I think we have we have more than enough in that area. But but Doug, have you considered um invading Iran?
00:59:32
Speaker
Aren't you a little bored? You know, don't you want to like spice up your life a little? You know, I like I think Elizabeth Warren is standing and applauding right now. I didn't even know she was here. And she's the House Democrats are really happy about that idea. that's weird. I'm just glad, you know, thank you for listening to these guys got juice, Elizabeth Warren. know, yeah we may not see eye to eye on all opinions, you know, but where you're listening. Your listenership is appreciated. Yeah. And if you ever want to come on to talk about Pocahontas, then we can. Let's talk about On the Basis of Sex, the the Ruth Bader Ginsburg film. Yeah.
01:00:15
Speaker
Is that movie good? Probably not. No. Armie Hammer is in it. Who does he play? Ruth Bader Ginsburg? A husband. but Oh, no. That'd be very funny. He's ah he's in like, ah he's wearing her outfits and stuff, but like he's just speaking the same way. Yeah.
01:00:36
Speaker
The notorious RBG. Oh, it's Felicity Jones. Yes. It does have a cast. I'm so neutral on her because I haven't... I don't care about Theory of Everything. That was one of her other big ones. And then as much as I love Andor, I don't like Rogue One. in like her But she's also, it's not her fault. like there's just like There's nothing about her character other than, ah med's hey, your dad's Mads Mikkelsen. He built the Death Star.
01:01:03
Speaker
Like, oh, okay. Did you see who else was in the cast list? Who else was in this? there There's one person in particular that's going to break your heart.
01:01:14
Speaker
Steven Root? Oh, you haven't seen him yet. Keep going. Oh, throw! Throw! and I imagine like ah he climbs out of a bathtub naked, he's like, I'm going to help you, Ruth Bader. you know like That's how he's good he's entered into that space. you know ah But yeah, no go back to the pit. you know I feel like we keep on doing diversions. Yes, no ah the the the government funding being cut ah for stupid reasons. It's something that's been a common theme on the show, how this hospital, it's you know running efficiently because of the people who work there. But very clearly at many different impasses, there are areas where they can improve. And you can feel where the doctors have that tension versus the funding and where those things are not being allocated correctly. And this is ah almost another example of that where it's like it's not like, you know, they're operating on a patient and something like the money missing failed to save them. But this is a situation where it's like learning about these things is what...
01:02:15
Speaker
ah improvement of the entire medical field needs, right? So the fact that stuff like this is being defunded is ah limiting ah the progress that could exist within the American healthcare system.
01:02:28
Speaker
Yeah. And you're limiting her career options worst of all. So fucking absolute not knock knock it off. I don't want Mohan working on like NFL people her entire life, you know, like they knew what they signed up for.
01:02:45
Speaker
Yeah, I mean, that the Will Smith movie's been out forever. Tell the truth. I never saw a concussion either. Alec Baldwin's in it. That's how little I know about this movie other than it's about concussions and Will Smith.
01:02:58
Speaker
Albert Brooks? This cast is weird. Okay, maybe I do need to watch Concussion. My players are getting headaches. but and That's a good, that's a good Albert Brooks. I yeah really wanted, that I really wanted like around drive. I was like, oh boy, here we're gearing up. He's going to do like a awesome, like dramatic, like gritty.
01:03:21
Speaker
You know, like in his elder statesman era, he's going to just show up and like so be swinging for the bit fences and get some kind of a war. i mean, because he's legit, like he's terrifying in Drive. Oh, he's amazing in Drive. Like that's, you know, like sometimes people are like overhype a performance. like, oh, this guy, they do like an amazing performance. And it's like a one-off performance like this. And you're like... Sure, whatever. But then, like, you actually watch this and you're like, oh, he just steals the movie. Like, Drive drive is a good movie. And then, like, Albert Brooks comes in and he's like, it's mine now. And then it's just, it's over, you know?
01:03:53
Speaker
Yeah. Mm-hmm. ah Anyway, Albert Brooks not on the pit yet, but he has been in HBO, other HBO shows. It curbs over. curbs over, so he doesn't have anything else to do. He should just show up. Ankle problem. It's just like, my ankle hurts. I need help.
01:04:11
Speaker
You know, if that's all it is. like he He doesn't do it. He's not in any life-threatening illness. Or he's the hacker. We're always assuming, we keep assuming the hacker's going to be someone young because that's just a stereotype. But what is That's an amazing idea. what if He's like a laptop.
01:04:29
Speaker
he's wearing like a ba backwards baseball cap who's like I've gotten to the mainframe like it's like And then we learned, with because the writing for this show, like, they don't have, like, just one-dimensional villains. Like, you find out there's, like, a sympathetic reason for that. That would be the ultimate, like, hat on a hat where I would just, like, stand up and start clapping. Like, regardless of who the hacker is, we i probably don't find it. But, they like, if they say something about, like, yeah, and they were doing this because they wanted to raise money for orphans in Sudan or something. I don't know. Yeah.
01:05:04
Speaker
Who knows what it's going to be, right? Like, I imagine it's going to be some kind of extremist group, probably conservative, obviously. um But, you know, at the end of the day, if they leave it unquestioned, because also at the end of the day, like, they were preventing the cyber attack. they were They didn't even get hit, right? Like, we only know about how other people are getting hit, and maybe they did, maybe they... I like in the confusion of when they're shutting down, people are like, oh, I think we got hit with a cyber attack. And Langan's like, ah um actually, ah it' we're shutting down to prevent one. he was He was kind of like had some energy. Like he's been so awkward. know we already like talked about Langan, but I just want to talk about like his general vibe because like, you know, he's been like trying to...
01:05:48
Speaker
get that FaceTime with with Robbie and then it finally happened and it threw him off his game initially. But yeah he was acting like he had some pep in his step this episode. Like there's something about the shutdown, like energized something. Because he was like kind of trying to rally people about like, hey, this could be a fun adventure. Like it'll be like back to the future.
01:06:07
Speaker
funny that that's what the movie he references. Yeah. I love it when he knocks over the ah the little ah tray, you know, and it just hits the ground. Like, again, just like big bozo moment for him, similar to like the the whole hot dog kind confusion. yeah He's such a doofus this season, and and I like it because it's in his humbling, it's not about, you know, these like really hard conversations with these individuals, really. It's more so in like the basic indignities that happen throughout the day.
01:06:37
Speaker
Yeah, and that he was actually cooler and smarter on drugs, and that should be the takeaway, is that that's what the benefit that drugs provide. He needs to go undercover again, you know? He needs to sneak into the building even though he hasn't been kicked out, you know, just like...
01:06:52
Speaker
go into the bathroom and come out with like one of those Groucho Mark but disguises. he's like, guys, it's me. It's me Langdon. And they're like, I'm pretty sure I bust out laughing last season when it was like such a serious stuff happening. They're dealing with the mass casualty stuff. But like just to see him there, there's like Walt's like, it's kind of like the George Costanza of like, just like, just pretend you're not, you haven't been fired. Just come back into work.
01:07:17
Speaker
He's like, i need ah I need a couple more hits before I leave, you know, on my way out. He came back for more drugs, saving people was incidental. I'm not leaving with something.
01:07:31
Speaker
That Denzel meme, I'm leaving here with something. That's it. Yes. I messed up the quote little. um Yeah, no, like Langdon, best character still. I feel like that's the thing we keep on coming back to is just like they're giving him everything this season for whatever reason. And I like the character so much, so I'm good with it, you know?
01:07:51
Speaker
Yeah. um The only other thing I can think of is that we do check in on our ah deaf patient. They finally have in person the interpreter. Right. And it kind of seems very
Santos' Communication Realization
01:08:03
Speaker
fairly straight. Like Santos seemed to have an idea of like once they could actually communicate of like, um you know, she's asking like, are you on your computer all day? So this could be some kind of like shoulder spine thing. i don't know. She has gamer neck.
01:08:19
Speaker
Yeah, yeah, exactly. she she has like, ah you know, those like renders of like ah people in the future who use their cell phones. That's that's what's going on with this person, unfortunately. um But, you know, joe so they get to they get to address two issues at once, like the how we treat patients with disabilities.
01:08:39
Speaker
And it's just been interesting because like, yes, Santos has because we could I thought this would be the the where Santos dropped the ball because of like what were her like crash out is potential crash out is coming from. But seems like she has this under control, but like it did kind of show of like, they're so empathetic and go out of their way except when they don't, you know, like, cause it's like it, yes, the technology was failing them. But like, like you point out, she didn't think to try the pen and paper until like,
01:09:12
Speaker
It was like several hours later that that thought occurred to her. So it's, yeah, it's like even if there's no malice behind it, that the disabled can kind of get left in the margins. It's been episodes, hours and hours, right? And it's like it took them this long to get to this point for something that could be so simply solved, right? Yeah. It is really sad to see this patient go through all of this and it speaks to the ill-equipped nature that hospitals are currently at, right? Because sometimes you see people where they're like, well, this is just the way that it has to be. And it's like, well, I think that just by even showing that the way that things have to be, the way that they play out in the show,
01:09:53
Speaker
it they could be a lot better. You know? Like, yeah. Can we, can we iterate on this? Like we can, we can do better. I don't think that this show is trying to say like, this is like, ah you know, a one-off scenario. I think this show is saying like, no, this is like the reality of having something that's just, you know,
01:10:09
Speaker
a disability that's just slightly out of the narrow focus of doctors every day approach. and It's not something they can immediately handle because they don't, you know, they don't have and ASL. Although it's like, you maybe do, I mean, like, i guess their justification would be like, what are the percentage of patients that are going to be deaf? but It's like, just have one person who's just there. And that's like, yeah you know, who knows, at least knows it.
01:10:37
Speaker
like I feel like that's so like ah a thing you can ask on a resume pretty easily, you know? But then also, like, you know, this just comes down to reform, right? It comes down to ah what we were talking about before with Mohan's papers, right? Like, these are the things that could be solved in the future if the consideration was given a time to flourish, right? Right.
01:10:58
Speaker
But we're shown time and time again in this hospital that things have to be rushed because they don't have everything, you know. And because of that rushedness, it's actually contributing ah to some of the illnesses and issues within the ER.
01:11:13
Speaker
and And for things that...
Joy's Medical Expertise
01:11:15
Speaker
should have a simple solution like whether it's Harlow or speaking of simple solutions that was another funny joy moment where they have the patient who's got like all the like the boils and the shit on his skin and like the lime man yeah they did they like both were uh Ogilvy was like at a loss it was Ogilvy and Javadi I think yeah they were they were at a loss and then they went to grab uh Robbie and then joy, you know, was like nearby. It's like, I took a look at him It is it's the lime thing. And then like, she's like, I don't need, I don't need to see it again. I know what that is. And then she was right.
01:11:51
Speaker
i didn't like that moment in the sense that it was a deflation of the stress that Ogilvy and Javadi have had like towards one another since the beginning of the season, this idea that like they're both gunning for a similar position.
01:12:04
Speaker
um But this scene is trying to almost like get Javadi and Ogilvy on good terms. And, you know, as we've discussed earlier in this episode about what happened with that kind of ah guy who came in, like Ogilvy isn't really worthy of my, ah you know,
01:12:23
Speaker
Like I can't be won over by him if he's hanging out with Javadi, you know? like Yeah. Like I love Javadi, but like, I'm like, stay away from her. Get a job. Exactly. Yeah. Get out of here. You smell, you know, she's got, she's trying to build her brand right now. I i just i just liked dick you i just liked it as a one-upmanship of Joy because like he seemed so secure in that he was smarter than Joy because they would kind of try to outwiki each other of bringing up like kind of esoteric diagnosis ah diagnoses and like it seems like but Maybe you're probably right that he was Googling stuff because he doesn't seem to have any of that advantage now that they they've gone analog. and But she still knows stuff because she actually has knowledge. Like, it's the difference between someone who is actually smart or like Mr. Beast saying, like, you can just watch a 20-minute video on on, you know, a book. And that's like, you have the same knowledge just reading it. like, it's okay, that's...
01:13:26
Speaker
it's not how education works. I can just download the program and then I know Kung Fu. So I actually, I turned ah the pages of Catcher in the Rye into script for a video game.
01:13:41
Speaker
So what I do is I just like look at code and and it's represented as, you know, Mario jumping through a level. But the the data itself, the metadata itself is the...
01:13:52
Speaker
entire book of Catcher in the Rye. I'm not I don't know what actually happens in the book but all I see is Mario but I know that it's made of Catcher in the Rye. Oh that's that's cool that sounds fun I'd play that I taught i taught an AI Catcher in the Rye and then it killed John Lennon it created it created another John Lennon and then it shot him shoot him again his soul is still dancing you know ye I mean, his ghost shows up on ah Comedy Bang Bang every so... Or it's not his ghost. I think the lore is that he just decided to be alive again. and that's why he he just shows up. He, like, flies away, too. He'll make his zippy.
01:14:32
Speaker
Oh, I need to get back into Comedy Bang Bang. I love that show so much. I got out of it for a little while, but I i love that show. Yeah. I mean, it just is like, oh It reminds you improv can be good when it's actually fun, funny people like between that or like. People who sound like they actually want to hang out with each other, too. You know, like. right wise You know, it's like Joe Rogan where it's like, let's interrogate each other.
01:14:58
Speaker
No, it's just like friends riffing or even if they're people who don't know each other, like there is there is still that familiarity because like. But Scott doesn't always yes and and like he'll be intentionally destabilizing. So like it's like, but but they roll with it. I mean, I muster editing out like when there is pushback, if there's like behind the scenes, someone's like, Scott, what are you doing?
Scott Ackerman's Comedy Style
01:15:20
Speaker
You met you fucking with my bit. But it's like, no, that's more fun than if you have to like think on your feet and like kind of try and pivot.
01:15:26
Speaker
what your thing was if a wrench is is thrown in in the works. Although it is always funny whenever Jon Hamm comes on and then Scott will like interrogate him about his commercials, all the commercial work he does. He does sound a little bit genuinely uncomfortable. Like, I don't know that it's a, he like wants to change the subject pretty quickly. He'll he'll be like, I got bills to pay, man. Like kind of just dismissively wanting move on. Scott's just like, what bills? Yeah. I think he's trying to get to the root of his gambling problem. Yeah, but tell us. I think that the reason that Scott's able to do operate the way that you say is because he's ultimately playing like an accelerated character of himself rather than just Scott Ackerman. There's nothing genuine in quotations about any of the works Scott Ackerman does, really. It's always a bit, right? And I think that there's something refreshing at about somebody who's still committed to that kind of
01:16:22
Speaker
in-universe style of thinking in terms of comedy when we're so inundated about like comedians who obsess over like crowd work or like yeah you know making like ARGs you know it's like to have somebody who's just like straightforward like hey this is comedy you know it's It's like turning on the radio station and going to the comedy station, you know? The fact that it just can be funny in that kind of way, you know? And still be relevant, still be timely, still talk about the moments and all that stuff, you know?
01:16:53
Speaker
so it's what you want. He should be on the pit. i said Yeah. I think someone pointed out. Adam Scott would be on the pit. I think my arm hurts. That would be good.
01:17:05
Speaker
ah He's, I think he's locked in ah a cube until they can film. Ben Stiller has him in like ah a device, a contraption until they can do severance again.
01:17:17
Speaker
Did they just leave them in the the train station that they did that pop-up event in? You know what I'm talking about? It became like that Matrix train station that Neo couldn't leave in Revolutions. Or you like you the thing where you exit and you start at the front again, like they tried to leave and they're just stuck there. They're all just like in there. they've all Their clothes are in tatters, right? They've they've turned the yeah the furniture into like firewood. they've They've resorted to like similar to the day of the Earth stood still eating papers from books, you know? Is that in the Keanu Day the Earth Stood Still?
01:17:54
Speaker
Oh, no not sorry, not The Day the Earth is Still. Sorry, The Day After Tomorrow. that's oh Oh, okay. yeah i've still never so i've I've never seen the the remake of just being in Jon Hamm. I think he's like in that. ah I don't remember. That's the Scott Derrickson film. Jane Smith is in that one, I think. ah like Yeah, that movie sucks. It's really bad. Watch the original Day of the Earth is Still. One of the best sci-fi movies ever. um Yeah, and and if you're a fan of The Pit, you would probably like it.
01:18:24
Speaker
ah Like not just that's not just like a bit like like honestly like in terms like the themes and the empathy like it is. ah ah Yeah. Yeah. ah Watch it.
Robbie's Potential Emotional Blowup
01:18:37
Speaker
Yeah. Classic morality tale shit. What do you think you're already doing here? Come on. Like just feel more of that shit in your life. Hell yeah. um Anything else to do while we're at this pit stop? Beep, beep. You know, we're we're we're waiting for the jalopy to get its fill up, you know. um Yeah, no. ah I'm waiting for Duke. He needs to work on my car.
01:19:01
Speaker
Bill, come my bottom man. ah Yeah, no, there's nothing really that's come into my mind. I'm i' just excited to see how this all shakes out because I feel like ah Robbie's about to have a blow up. You know, I feel like we barely talked about him this episode, but I just feel like it's it's time. You know, he's about to freak out. Well, like I said, it's it's like it's the little needling that's like all this is adding up. Like the they're managing the shut the power shutdown all right so far seemingly, but like what's it doing to him? Like it's like he can't He just can seemingly just from what we've seen on these two isolated shifts for both of the season is so that he can only start spinning so many plates before it crashes on him.
01:19:46
Speaker
And when they crash, they crash so beautifully. I can't wait to see it. And when they crash, he gets at me. Exactly. He gets another house, you know, in Florida or something. Yeah.
Future Story Developments
01:19:59
Speaker
Yeah. So interested to to see what... And then like I said, I think there will be another escalation. Not that... I'm just down with the characters and like, you know, these these patients and all of it. But I think just as... Just from a storytelling perspective, there will be additional ramp up, whether it's just like...
01:20:19
Speaker
a hat on a hat of the like potential cyber attack that there is some new wrinkle or something or it could just be in a cyber attack could just be a distraction to have them be vulnerable for like what's about to happen a kaiju a giant monster of rampages through ah pittsburgh and uh that's what happened to duke he got stepped on exactly the cloverfield monster came and uh got tj miller
01:21:04
Speaker
Well, I wasn't in the pan. You were the pan. You're building that day.