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E113: Hey Cabrón!
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Jerid gets into the shop between golf games. Denis is busy screwing up damascus and making things. Come check it out!
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Transcript
Introduction and Setting the Stage
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Denis Tyrell
Welcome to another Triple T for Knife Makers podcast. I am your host Dennis Trillatorial Knifeworks and with me is Jared Sandoval. Finally dragged himself away from his stupid golf so that we could do some work in the shop and some podcasting but he still was pretty preoccupied with this dumb master so I'm glad it's over. Jared how are you?
00:00:40
echo_blades
I'm good. how are you, buddy?
00:00:43
Denis Tyrell
um good i'm good
00:00:44
echo_blades
This is good news. This is fantastic news. and Yes. Welcome, everybody, for another riveting episode of the Triple T Podcast for Knife Makers.
00:00:56
Denis Tyrell
Riveting.
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echo_blades
Yes.
00:00:59
Denis Tyrell
Riveting. Where did that term ever come from anyway?
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echo_blades
Prepare to be...
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Denis Tyrell
Riveting.
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echo_blades
i don't know. That's a good one.
00:01:07
echo_blades
It holds together. Yeah, I don't know.
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Denis Tyrell
Something riveted?
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echo_blades
Don't trail me off right now.
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Denis Tyrell
If you're riveting, what i don't get it because it's really tight.
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echo_blades
Yeah.
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echo_blades
and
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Denis Tyrell
it's I don't get the reference. I'm going to have to look that one up.
00:01:22
echo_blades
Sure. It's not the cat's ass. I mean, it's definitely not as plain and simple as the cat's ass.
00:01:24
Denis Tyrell
No.
00:01:31
echo_blades
Yeah, I don't know. I don't have an answer. And I like to know the the the origins of those things. Like three sheets to the wind?
00:01:36
Denis Tyrell
Yeah.
Language and Phrasing: A Humorous Exploration
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Denis Tyrell
I don't know that one.
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echo_blades
That's because... i mean, the reference shit-faced, right? But that's when the the the fucking sail ships, and they're all their sails are up three sheets to the wind. They're full blast.
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Denis Tyrell
Oh, okay. That makes sense.
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echo_blades
Flying full speed, yeah. On the wagon?
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Denis Tyrell
Yeah.
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echo_blades
You know that one
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Denis Tyrell
know. I don't know the origin of it.
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echo_blades
that one? On the wagon is they would carry a the people to their execution and they would trail them through the city on a wagon. So that's when they were done drinking because they're that's lights out, buddy.
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Denis Tyrell
How can you know the origin of all the drinking ones?
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echo_blades
I don't know. um maybe because I got a problem. Mind your P's and Q's.
00:02:32
Denis Tyrell
Is that part of the program? You got to go research the origin of all of these.
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echo_blades
No, but I think you hang around enough bars and listen to drunk people enough. They want to impress you with stupid fucking things. Mind your P's and Q's. That's your pints and quarts.
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Denis Tyrell
I've heard that one before.
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echo_blades
Yeah.
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Denis Tyrell
yeah. It doesn't translate in in other parts of the world.
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echo_blades
Yeah.
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Denis Tyrell
No,
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echo_blades
um I mean, it does, right?
00:02:55
Denis Tyrell
they don't know pints and quarts.
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echo_blades
Oh, okay. Oh, that's right. Yeah, yeah, Fuck me. I only live here.
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echo_blades
ah Yeah, and that's all the stupid facts I got.
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Denis Tyrell
Yeah.
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Denis Tyrell
I read a funny one the other day that I sent you about, uh, about, I saw a meme about, is it, is it for fuck's sake, F U C K S sake or for fuck's sake with no S obviously it's for fuck's sake, but is the apostrophe come, you know, before the S or after the S?
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echo_blades
Yeah.
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echo_blades
You
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echo_blades
You did. he did
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echo_blades
Well, possessive, right?
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Denis Tyrell
It's possessed, right?
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echo_blades
That's what it was saying. Yeah.
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Denis Tyrell
But should it be?
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echo_blades
It's for the sake of a fuck or for the sake of fuck?
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Denis Tyrell
Well, is it for the sake of of, yeah, one fuck or all of the fucks?
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echo_blades
One or many. Yeah, all the fucks. That's what it was. Yeah. Yeah,
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Denis Tyrell
I think it should be for the sake of all the fucks. When I say it.
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echo_blades
yeah i was going to say, when you say it, it's definitely for all of them, which was funny. I did kind of laugh a little
00:04:07
Denis Tyrell
I thought it was appropriate.
Media and Entertainment Discussion
00:04:08
Denis Tyrell
There are times where I need that definition.
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echo_blades
Yeah.
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Denis Tyrell
So I'm going to keep it handy.
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echo_blades
Yeah. I mean, if there's one outburst that is synonymous with you, it is that one right there.
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Denis Tyrell
And it's it's never good. And it's never funny when I say it.
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echo_blades
No, it's not. It's not It's not. I'll tell you what. yeah
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echo_blades
Oh, You better start ducking because things are about to.
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Denis Tyrell
No, yeah. Oh, i was i was watching King of the Hill the other day, and I was really trying to get a clip of that.
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Denis Tyrell
And I sat there with my phone recording the screen for like two minutes. I'm like, no, um I can't do this.
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echo_blades
You just did. You got it though.
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Denis Tyrell
No, but i wanted I wanted some more things that he says. But, I mean, you have to sit there and like...
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echo_blades
Oh, gotcha.
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Denis Tyrell
i will Actually, I wanted Bobby saying something, but...
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echo_blades
Yeah.
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Denis Tyrell
I mean, I could go on my website and probably get some of his audio clips. Yeah.
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echo_blades
boom
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Denis Tyrell
He has such a funny voice, Bobby, on that show.
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echo_blades
Yeah. I can't even, I don't even know it. It's been a long time since I've seen that show.
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Denis Tyrell
ah Yeah, me too.
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echo_blades
you know what we just You know what I just watched, though, in its entirety, which Lynn had never seen, was ah Game of Thrones.
00:05:28
Denis Tyrell
Really?
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echo_blades
Yeah. and She had never watched it. I was late to the party. And I just, the the through it all, a fantastic show. Through it all, I could not imagine waiting eight years to to watch that thing in its entirety.
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echo_blades
like and the cliffhangers and waiting for the next season and said, that must've been, that must've been, that must've been brutal, dude.
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Denis Tyrell
And it took fucking forever for those things to come out.
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echo_blades
That must've been brutal.
00:05:58
Denis Tyrell
I came in, ah where were they? Seven seasons or eight?
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echo_blades
Eight. I thought there was seven, but there was eight.
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Denis Tyrell
Eight. So I came in, it the they were just they had just released, i think it was season five.
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echo_blades
I think I was on six.
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Denis Tyrell
And um the only reason I started, I've said this before, the only reason I started watching that show because I was fucking annoyed that people kept asking me if I watched the show because my last name is Tyrell.
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echo_blades
So I had two, two. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:06:28
Denis Tyrell
um So I finally broke down and watched it and it it is a really good show.
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echo_blades
Yeah, it was good.
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Denis Tyrell
Yeah.
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echo_blades
I can't believe how much I forgot.
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Denis Tyrell
Yeah.
00:06:39
echo_blades
There's a lot to it. It was a while ago too, but yeah, that was, that was pretty good. It's always good to watch the people that haven't seen it just go, Oh my, Whoa.
00:06:44
Denis Tyrell
Have you ever...
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echo_blades
Like, you know, cause no one's safe and it's always changing and it was pretty, pretty good.
00:06:54
Denis Tyrell
Well, speaking of shows that make you go, whoa, the boys just came back, which I really love. And that's another show that, um yeah, it can be very disturbing, that show.
00:07:07
Denis Tyrell
But I'm thrilled that that show came back.
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echo_blades
Yeah.
00:07:10
Denis Tyrell
But this is the final season.
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echo_blades
I watched like, I watched one season for sure.
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Denis Tyrell
Do you watch that?
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echo_blades
i think I watched the second one and, and then I just never got back to it. Not, not for any reason in particular, but I have not, it's still in the, in the tank ready to go.
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echo_blades
All
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Denis Tyrell
Yeah, well, when you get bored, that's a good one. That's a good one to just binge watch.
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echo_blades
right.
00:07:33
Denis Tyrell
And yeah, I'm looking forward to this season so far.
00:07:36
echo_blades
Yeah.
00:07:37
Denis Tyrell
It's been pretty good. it It has not disappointed with the crazy shit that goes on.
00:07:44
echo_blades
No, but I mean, it, nothing compares to the intensity of the masters. It was absolutely fantastic.
00:07:57
echo_blades
And I just want to say that I think it is incredibly disrespectful that you just, you are just seriously riding this horse and that it is boring and blah, blah, blah.
00:08:10
Denis Tyrell
It's boring.
00:08:11
echo_blades
It is so freaking awesome, dude.
00:08:13
Denis Tyrell
the The only thing worse than watching the masters is having your buddy force you to fucking listen to it in the shop.
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echo_blades
It wasn't great.
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echo_blades
but
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Denis Tyrell
That's the only thing that's worse.
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echo_blades
ah i On the contrary, my friend, I can't tell you how much better it made it. I have never...
00:08:37
Denis Tyrell
but I felt like ah like a father scolding his head.
00:08:39
echo_blades
You did. I was just going to say that.
00:08:40
Denis Tyrell
How many times did I tell to fucking get to work?
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echo_blades
yeah
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echo_blades
I have never, you have never, ever talked to me that way. The entire time we've been doing that. That doesn't, so that doesn't look like you're doing knife stuff, son. Hey, shunny, get back on the mill.
00:09:02
Denis Tyrell
Every time I look around, you were fucking slacking off, watching your phone.
00:09:07
echo_blades
Oh, man. i did I thought it was incredible how many people were messaging me about, you know, just the the normal dumb memes. But ah I had a couple people, you know, text me with pictures ah of the Masters. I know that they don't have any interest of it, but they were watching it. i was telling them, you root for this guy.
00:09:25
echo_blades
ah My golfer fucking, i knew he wasn't going to He has a chance to win, but he he has a very bad history of just not pulling through at the end. And and he did just that.
00:09:39
echo_blades
But, um yeah, it was good. And then I had a tournament this weekend, and it rained. Like, there's nothing that irritates me more. then choosing to rain the only days that I have open to golf.
00:09:56
echo_blades
Like, and it was, it was bad too. And then I had a tournament on top of that. So, uh, it was out in Fairfield. Um, and my buddy though, uh, I, I brought a guest and got a new guy and into the, into the, uh, and he texted me the night before and he's like, I'm, I think I'm going bring a cart cover and bro, the, The amount of judgment that I had.
00:10:19
echo_blades
like Do you want to you want to be the guy that rides around in a golf cart that has the little plastic cover over the top of it? like I can't tell you how many unkind words I say when I see people in there.
00:10:33
echo_blades
And then even more, we roll up and then it's like, you know, dark death clouds coming out and we start setting this thing up and we Carter cover ourselves up, bro. It was the most fantastic thing that it would have been absolutely miserable if we weren't in this little cocoon of Zen peace while it was storming on us.
00:10:53
echo_blades
Um, yeah, it was pretty, pretty brutal. Um, That guy ended up winning the whole tournament. Jeff got second and still lost because he lost a tiebreaker, which was even more satisfying to me. And then I won almost 100 bucks in skins because all it takes is one good shot and you could win a bunch of money.
00:11:15
echo_blades
So that that ended up paying me quite a quite a lot of money. Almost got my money back for for the round. But yeah, that was that was a f freaking great time. And en golfing in the rain is is really shitty.
00:11:28
Denis Tyrell
Sounds like it.
00:11:30
echo_blades
it's It's horrible. It's horrible. But was watching the Masters while I was golfing both days in the cart. it It was great.
00:11:40
Denis Tyrell
I bet the people behind you love that.
00:11:42
echo_blades
No, I, I, we, we play fast. No problem. But yeah, that was good. So that's, that's the golf thing for, for the week. But yeah, it was cool.
00:11:53
echo_blades
Much love all the people I did.
00:11:53
Denis Tyrell
So you won some money. That's good.
00:11:55
echo_blades
Yeah. Almost a hundred bucks. I was so surprised too. Cause I shit the bed. um Normally don't like to blame conditions when, cause i'm I'm shitty enough, but it was, it was really bad.
00:12:09
echo_blades
I had one shot where my hand fucking completely slipped off the club. Shank that fuckers.
00:12:16
Denis Tyrell
you didn't you didn't You didn't accidentally throw the club in the pond or anything like that?
00:12:20
echo_blades
No, I don't, i I don't do that too often, but I do get mad. I actually have, I've gotten good enough with my, uh, I don't know what's my temperament to, to tell people I need a minute. I'm going to have a go, have a temper tantrum. Then I'll i' walk away and for fuck's sake myself and then come back and try again.
00:12:44
echo_blades
But shit, man, it's like you go, you shit the bed. And then I, I played nine holes with Jared after i left your, after, after I left the shop yesterday and I was like entirely different guy.
00:12:56
echo_blades
was, it was horrible, but.
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Denis Tyrell
What, you sucked or you were good?
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echo_blades
No, it was fine. and like Normal, at
00:13:02
Denis Tyrell
don't see. You
Knife-Making Techniques and Tips
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echo_blades
least.
00:13:04
Denis Tyrell
needed the shop relaxation of actually doing something creative.
00:13:08
echo_blades
It could have been. It could have been. It could have been.
00:13:11
Denis Tyrell
Yeah.
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echo_blades
No, I might
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Denis Tyrell
How long were you over? Like two hours?
00:13:16
echo_blades
and i was there for 11, 3 1⁄2, 4 hours.
00:13:22
Denis Tyrell
Yeah, you almost got to have your work done.
00:13:24
echo_blades
i didn't see that coming ah I think Brent bren had the best one.
00:13:31
Denis Tyrell
Yeah.
00:13:31
echo_blades
He goes, and I was like, hey, man, I appreciate you for for for putting on the Masters and and watching it and supporting me. And he goes, well, you know, you you don't do anything. You support us knife makers.
00:13:46
echo_blades
I was like, oh, you mother.
00:13:52
echo_blades
Because he doesn't like golf, right? So but I thought that was good. Yeah, that was pretty good. but Yeah, man. So what do we do? I heat treated the four knives that i profiled last week that were ready for heat treat. um Oh, and then, you know what? I took a suggestion.
00:14:14
echo_blades
Because if you're going to heat treat your knives, you got to use an even heat kiln.
00:14:14
Denis Tyrell
Okay.
00:14:19
echo_blades
And if you don't have a kiln, which is crazy, if you only have one, that's even crazier. Go check out even heat kilns. They're a family owned and operated company since 1948, building the highest quality heat treating ovens available.
00:14:33
echo_blades
ah Yeah. Go reach out to Spencer and the boys and they will take care of you for sure. And have, I used yours, one of yours, and um did the heat treating.
00:14:43
Denis Tyrell
Mm-hmm.
00:14:46
echo_blades
And then when I got back to the house, I tempered them. And i think a few episodes ago, it's probably longer than that, but we were talking about the they make the actual tempering oven.
00:14:59
echo_blades
as one of the things that is lower powered and strictly dialed in for for lower temperatures. And um there was some people that were saying that they have a hard time keeping the the kiln from overshooting the temp tempering temperatures.
00:15:20
echo_blades
temperatures
00:15:21
Denis Tyrell
right Yeah, that's the way you should do it is is change the rate.
00:15:21
echo_blades
And ah I was told to leave the door open just a tad. And that kind of helps it kick off and on and off and on and and regulate it a little better. But then I think you had suggested messing with the the ramp rate.
00:15:42
Denis Tyrell
You can't ramp it full full bore because it'll definitely shoot pass. You have to ramp it much slower if you're going to temper.
00:15:49
echo_blades
Yeah.
00:15:51
echo_blades
I didn't ever think of that. So I tried it and it worked.
00:15:56
Denis Tyrell
Yeah.
00:15:56
echo_blades
It actually, i took it down to like 500 and,
00:15:59
Denis Tyrell
That's what I do. Five or 600 degrees
00:16:01
echo_blades
and and it actually got stuck at like one 80 for like 20 minutes.
00:16:02
Denis Tyrell
ramp
00:16:07
echo_blades
Cause I walked out, I set it and then I left for a minute. I checked my phone. i'm like, dude, this is going to take fucking forever. So I ended up ramping it up to like 700 or something like that. And that got it up to the, to where I needed it to be in it and it held just fine.
00:16:21
echo_blades
So,
00:16:21
Denis Tyrell
Oh, I've never had the problem with it taking along, like, holding, halting at it.
00:16:27
echo_blades
No, it was taken far longer than I wanted to, but it it crept up there is what I'm trying to say.
00:16:27
Denis Tyrell
Yeah.
00:16:32
Denis Tyrell
Yeah.
00:16:34
echo_blades
It crept up to that temperature and didn't overshoot, and it didn't hold just fine.
00:16:36
Denis Tyrell
Yeah,
00:16:40
echo_blades
So, um yeah.
00:16:40
Denis Tyrell
yeah I mean, even even setting it at, like, 750, 800, it would be fine. Even probably would be fine, because that's a thousand
00:16:48
echo_blades
I think 999 is as fast as possible. That's the one that shoots it all the way up.
00:16:54
Denis Tyrell
No, 99.99 is as fast as possible.
00:16:57
echo_blades
Oh, okay.
00:16:59
Denis Tyrell
Yeah, you can ramp it at 2,000 degrees an hour.
00:16:59
echo_blades
Oh, maybe then.
00:17:01
Denis Tyrell
Like, this is per hour.
00:17:04
echo_blades
okay.
00:17:05
Denis Tyrell
Right? Like, that's that's per hour.
00:17:06
echo_blades
Okay.
00:17:07
Denis Tyrell
So, um yeah, if you only want it, like, if you if you if you ramp it, if you set it at 400, it's going to take an hour to get to 400.
00:17:16
echo_blades
Oh, okay.
00:17:17
Denis Tyrell
That's how it works.
00:17:18
echo_blades
That makes sense.
00:17:19
Denis Tyrell
Yeah.
00:17:20
echo_blades
Okay. Well, 750, I think was the sweet spot for me. Got got me up there.
00:17:24
Denis Tyrell
Yeah, I mean, then you should, it should take half an hour-ish to get to 400.
00:17:25
echo_blades
Yeah.
00:17:29
echo_blades
Yeah.
00:17:31
Denis Tyrell
But then you don't overshoot it because it comes up slow.
00:17:34
echo_blades
Yep. Yeah, no, and it worked great. So I appreciate the the deal. Like we were talking about last week, you know, suggestions like, you know, they suggest you wear a parachute when you jump out of a plane. So I tried to take them and the it worked out good.
00:17:48
echo_blades
So.
00:17:48
Denis Tyrell
Yeah, I mean, a while ago I started doing the program that has three segments. one that just ah like the normal temper and then a down segment.
00:17:59
Denis Tyrell
So I'll put it out. I'll set it at like 150.
00:18:03
Denis Tyrell
And they do this overnight. So it's it just at full quote unquote, it goes down at full temperature. So it just cools down until it's 150 and then it kicks back up again.
00:18:12
echo_blades
Yeah.
00:18:14
Denis Tyrell
So then you do both your rounds and you don't have to do anything and you can just set it and forget it and then go back in the morning.
00:18:18
echo_blades
Gotcha.
00:18:23
echo_blades
Yeah. I did the, uh, I did leave it in there overnight for the second cycle, but I did one round, cooled it off, dipped it, and then put it back in and went to bed.
00:18:30
Denis Tyrell
But you did two. You did one round and then...
00:18:37
Denis Tyrell
So you should do the two round the two rounds and you don't have to mess with it.
00:18:45
Denis Tyrell
And it's no more heat it's no more power or anything like that because as it's going down, it doesn't take any power.
00:18:45
echo_blades
I still think though
00:18:50
echo_blades
your controller though is like I don't know how the hell you how you work that thing. i'm and I'm a dumbass so I need the tap controller because that thing is like I just stare at it like what is it telling me? I don't know. I couldn't imagine trying to program it. and
00:19:07
Denis Tyrell
I'm used to the Set Pro, the cheapo controller. um
00:19:11
echo_blades
yeah
00:19:12
Denis Tyrell
I have the Ramp Master on the big one, but I wouldn't.
00:19:12
echo_blades
The tap is The tap is the business, dude. That thing is awesome.
00:19:17
Denis Tyrell
Yeah, if I were to buy one now, I'd get the tap controller. But back then I was trying to go ah low cost.
00:19:26
echo_blades
I understand. Yeah. I don't even think. No, because I bought mine in the in the in the backyard deal at that at the Long Beach show. So that's all, though. They only had the tap on there.
00:19:38
Denis Tyrell
Yeah, yeah. I think they only bring the ones to the shows with the tab.
00:19:42
echo_blades
Yeah. I mean, makes sense.
00:19:43
Denis Tyrell
Yeah.
00:19:43
echo_blades
You want to wow and ooh and ah.
00:19:44
Denis Tyrell
Right. Yeah.
00:19:46
echo_blades
So yeah, that was cool.
00:19:50
echo_blades
Uh, but yeah, i did that. Um, and then I finished, uh, grinding that Sanmai tune that thing up. Um, And then finished up the I'm ready for heat treat on the on the feathered basket weave build that we did a long time ago. What did you end up making with yours?
00:20:13
Denis Tyrell
With what?
00:20:14
echo_blades
The feathered basket weave billet that we did.
00:20:16
Denis Tyrell
That dagger. Remember that dagger?
00:20:18
echo_blades
The dagger.
00:20:18
Denis Tyrell
Yeah.
00:20:18
echo_blades
Yeah, that's right. That's right.
00:20:22
echo_blades
So.
00:20:23
Denis Tyrell
You didn't draw yours out as much. So yours looks like I drew mine out and then forged it. And you couldn't even tell it was a basket.
00:20:30
echo_blades
Yeah. I forged the tip.
00:20:32
Denis Tyrell
it looked cool, but you couldn't tell it was a basket.
00:20:35
echo_blades
Yeah. I forged the tip in to try to do that, but then, um, that's it. So, yeah. And then I have a a tall task ahead of me that, uh, I don't know if I'll, I'll get there, but we'll see what happens.
00:20:51
Denis Tyrell
What, you got to hand sand four knives?
00:20:51
echo_blades
Got a couple of weeks to, I gotta, yeah, I gotta, I gotta get busy.
00:20:55
Denis Tyrell
specific
00:20:56
echo_blades
Yeah.
00:20:58
Denis Tyrell
I did one while you were messing around watching the Masters yesterday.
00:21:05
echo_blades
You did one what?
00:21:06
Denis Tyrell
I sanded a knife from, because I had just finished, um oh wait, did I? I ground it and sanded the whole knife while you were there.
00:21:17
echo_blades
Bro, let's get real. That thing was, you did not grind that whole knife.
00:21:23
Denis Tyrell
i did
00:21:24
echo_blades
No, you didn't.
00:21:25
Denis Tyrell
it had It had pre-heat treat grinds, which were like 60%. Everything else was...
00:21:29
echo_blades
And then, oh, I thought it was cool that you you used the ah the the waterfall for the first time.
00:21:34
Denis Tyrell
Yeah, that's on my list to talk about. that I've had that waterfall platen for, God, at least two years.
00:21:37
echo_blades
Yeah.
00:21:43
Denis Tyrell
The attachment. And I've just... You know, sometimes you get set in your ways. and like there was I think there's an amount of...
00:21:51
echo_blades
Sometimes.
00:21:52
Denis Tyrell
shut up I think there's a lot of like fear, like, like it's like every time I have a knife that like it's going really well. I'm like, oh, um I don't want to try a new process on this knife because I might fuck it up.
00:22:06
Denis Tyrell
um And I seem to be always in that process. And then after getting feedback at blade that like one of my plunge lines was off, I'm like, fine, I'm going to try this. Maybe it's going to make things easier.
00:22:19
Denis Tyrell
oh my god i don't know why i've been waiting so long it's really really cool i loved it i definitely will be putting in in the rotation so uh very happy to have the uh waterfall plan
00:22:30
echo_blades
Yeah.
00:22:32
echo_blades
Yeah. I think I made one on our first version of of the grinder. Jeff and I did, but I can't remember why it, I don't know what happened.
00:22:48
echo_blades
I don't know. I don't know why, but what I used it a couple times and then i think we, we intended on like redoing it and we never did it. And then I probably set it down somewhere under the, under a table.
00:23:00
echo_blades
And it's been there ever since.
00:23:02
Denis Tyrell
what What radius does it did it have?
00:23:04
echo_blades
I have no idea. No clue. I didn't know what I was doing then anyway. So I was like, it just needs to go over and fall down. And we did it. And we like, we, we, we had to bolt it up to, to the, to platen that we had. And I think the belt was like very, very,
00:23:22
echo_blades
gently barely hanging on it wanted to keep flying off it wasn't tracking it was a little sketch to say the least but
00:23:30
Denis Tyrell
It sounds like it. Yeah, and you have to set the tension on that thing, like just barely or it doesn't move.
00:23:38
echo_blades
yeah did it get hot i didn't ask that
00:23:39
Denis Tyrell
Yeah. It got a little warm, but I mean, i'm I'm not running it very fast and I'm not pushing very hard on it. It was literally just cleaning up the plunges. And I was using like a J Flex 220.
00:23:55
echo_blades
yeah yeah
00:23:56
Denis Tyrell
So my plunges were already like dialed in and I was just nudging them to make them perfect.
00:24:03
echo_blades
What did you do out of order?
00:24:06
Denis Tyrell
Oh, I wish i would have um convexed the the edge first because then I could have feathered in that convex.
00:24:13
echo_blades
Oh, that's right. That's what we did. That's right.
00:24:18
Denis Tyrell
But I did the plunges and then I went and convexed it. um And that kind of messed up my my perfect plunge and I just had to go and take some needle files, diamond needle files and just fix it up.
00:24:33
echo_blades
isn Isn't the the the rotary platen from Ameribraid just freaking awesome?
00:24:38
Denis Tyrell
It's awesome.
00:24:39
echo_blades
It's fantastic, dude.
00:24:41
Denis Tyrell
It has changed my life as as far edge
00:24:46
Denis Tyrell
the edge
00:24:48
echo_blades
Yes.
00:24:48
Denis Tyrell
Like getting the edge down, because before it'd be like, oh, I got to like, because now you only have to reduce that bottom, you know, convex in the edge is awesome, because you only have to reduce that bottom half inch.
00:24:55
echo_blades
Yep.
00:24:59
echo_blades
Mm-hmm.
00:25:00
Denis Tyrell
So yeah, get yourself an Ameribraid. i They've got some of the most amazing attachments, not just the rotary attachment, the surface grounding attachment, ah their drop away platen, which is like an instant.
00:25:10
echo_blades
Nice.
00:25:15
Denis Tyrell
you know I don't use the i don't use the I never used to use a slack platen because I was too lazy to change it. And now it's one little flick, platen drops away and you have the slack belt.
00:25:26
Denis Tyrell
So get yourself an Ameribraid, go to Ameribraid.com, use the discount code TTT10 for 10% off accessories. um And TTT, we got to reach out to them because I don't think the TTT one is actually working.
00:25:41
echo_blades
Yeah, I think I got to get some clarification on that.
00:25:44
Denis Tyrell
Very
00:25:46
echo_blades
But you can get 10% off all of their fancy attachments. And don't forget the hyperdisk. that That'll take care of all kinds of operations for you. Quick change, easy to do. It's a disc sander, abrasives wheel, buffing, the the whole thing.
00:26:03
echo_blades
Yeah, just a get yourself one. It's fantastic.
00:26:08
Denis Tyrell
very cool.
00:26:09
echo_blades
Yep. You got any questions, reach out to Kevin and Eric and they will take care of you. Awesome customer service. They, yeah they stand behind their stuff and they know
Efficiency and Innovations in Knife-Making
00:26:21
echo_blades
what's up. So
00:26:23
Denis Tyrell
I made some good progress on the folders. I got my liners from SendCutSend.
00:26:30
echo_blades
dude, what a win.
00:26:30
Denis Tyrell
And Oh, man.
00:26:33
echo_blades
What a win.
00:26:34
Denis Tyrell
So getting, I used to just laser the design on a piece of, on titanium for the liners, which saves a ton of time. Cause then you can just go spot the holes with the optical center punch.
00:26:49
Denis Tyrell
But this way from send cut send, I don't even need to drill them. I just, I just size them undersized. And then I just have to either re-drill or ream the holes that like the Yeah.
00:27:01
Denis Tyrell
and ah the lock bar is cut, it probably saves me at least four hours per folder.
00:27:10
echo_blades
Yeah, it was. Yeah, I. I'm a believer that was that's a good idea.
00:27:15
Denis Tyrell
Yeah.
00:27:17
Denis Tyrell
Yeah, it was... And i like i was just testing this one. I had to make a couple of little tweaky changes because I'm used to... um oversizing the design because I like I'm grinding the profile of the liners.
00:27:28
echo_blades
hmm.
00:27:31
Denis Tyrell
Well, now these are precise. um So there's a few little spots where I need to just make the design a little bigger, which is what I did. but But I did.
00:27:43
Denis Tyrell
I had a Sean over Sean, the knife guy, Sean, um doing some lasering. And we were talking about that Damascus that I made.
00:27:54
Denis Tyrell
And I don't know what I was thinking. i haven't done ball bearings in a long time. And so it's a ball bearing core with gradient Damascus and then a dark um cladding over the, you know, and there's, sorry, there's copper between the ball bearings and the gradient.
00:28:14
Denis Tyrell
And then he asked me if I put 15 and 20 powder i in there. And I'm like, no. And then I like it. i said i said no but 50 to 100 inches light right and then i thought to myself oh damn because i put 1084 with um with um um
00:28:38
Denis Tyrell
but whatever the the ball bearing steel uh 5200 and apparently both of those etch dark especially if you coffee them so i'm probably not going to see much it might be a like if i only use ferric i'll probably see a slight difference like one will be dark gray and one will be darker um but i think what i've decided is to just embrace this one i'm going to do a deep deep etch and i'm going hot blue the blade
00:28:38
echo_blades
The ball bearings? Yeah.
00:29:08
echo_blades
Hmm. Hmm.
00:29:09
Denis Tyrell
So it's going to be shiny black. And then you'll see if you kind of tilted. to You'll see the copper, of course, but if you kind of tilt it, you'll see the um the deep etch, but it'll all be black because even the 15 and 20 should go black.
00:29:25
Denis Tyrell
So I think it'll look pretty cool. And then as as it wears, you'll probably see different. Anyway, I'm going to try it just to see what it looks like. I've got like 18 inches of this Damascus, so I can do a bunch more folders and play around.
00:29:41
echo_blades
Oh, you like the dark.
00:29:46
Denis Tyrell
More Bane.
00:29:49
echo_blades
Oh, that's good. one Yeah, I thought it was going to be light, but it turns out it's double dark.
00:29:57
Denis Tyrell
Double dark. But I mean, that's fine. Because normally I would do it just a dark um core anyway. So even if I coffee it and it's dark, you'll still kind of see the outline of the bottle bearings, which is still kind of cool.
00:30:10
Denis Tyrell
So yeah, I'm not too upset, but I'll know for next time.
00:30:11
echo_blades
Hmm.
Humorous Debates and Promotions
00:30:15
echo_blades
Hey, speaking of ball bearings, do you think that underwear need pee hole? a pee-hole
00:30:23
Denis Tyrell
um No. ah I'm trying to think. some Very few, actually. um but You asked me this question the other day, ah yesterday. And
00:30:36
Denis Tyrell
it's funny because I think a lot of the the boxer briefs that that Kim buys me, they have that pattern on them, but they don't actually have the little pocket, which is weird.
00:30:47
Denis Tyrell
um But, yeah, it does absolutely. the The pocket is stupid. i Does anybody use that pocket?
00:30:53
echo_blades
I need to know this, right? Because I, I, yeah, I ended up getting some new draws and my, my wonderful wife bought me some and I go and i put them on and I go to his bathroom and I'm like, wait, my junk is stuck.
00:31:09
echo_blades
And apparently I I'm a fan and that's, that's, that's the the process that I use is the, is the fly hole. And I'm like, I'm ah amazed that they make them that they're, they're some don't have them.
00:31:25
echo_blades
And
00:31:25
Denis Tyrell
Wait, wait, hold hold the phone. You actually use the the flap?
00:31:30
echo_blades
yeah. Yeah. Every single time.
00:31:34
Denis Tyrell
Really?
00:31:35
echo_blades
Yeah. I don't have to, you don't bust over the top and like, I don't know. It's a process. And then I realized I go in there. I'm like, my junk is stuck. I can't. And then I started asking people and I'm like, and I'm amazed that like, it's, it's, so it's like the, you know, the the haircut thing or the, you know, what millions of other things is the other one that I've been saying a lot easier is like breakfast. Do you guys, cause I wake up and I'm thinking about breakfast and I got to eat pretty quick in the morning. Just that's a must for me. I'm amazed at how many people that's not their process.
00:32:11
echo_blades
So equally the, the peel on the draws is fly hole, whatever you want to call it is, is a give or take for some people. And I've gotten, I've gotten equal, I've gotten equal mixes, but it's, it's, it's really awesome to just kind of bust that question out in any situation, but yeah.
00:32:21
Denis Tyrell
I'm the, ah you are the first person really,
00:32:30
Denis Tyrell
um i didn't, I've never heard of anyone who, not that I've actually done polls like you have, but I've never heard of anyone that actually uses those.
00:32:39
echo_blades
That's a good that's a good good term, too for for the...
00:32:43
Denis Tyrell
Can I take a poll on your poll?
00:32:45
echo_blades
Yeah. Can I do a poll on your poll process? Yeah. And then I, I, I let, I, she, she bought me a, like, I don't know, four or five, six pair or whatever. too long ago. I'm like, I'm so appreciative, my love. Thank you. But like these things don't, they don't, I can't let the monster out. i told her And she's like, what are you talking about? And then she goes back in and this weekend i get, um, uh,
00:33:14
echo_blades
like three more packs. And I'm like, and it's the brand that that that I like. And I go and like, how, when the fuck is this possible? All, all these pairs don't have them either.
00:33:24
echo_blades
Again, my love, thank you so much. But and she's like, are you fucking kidding me? Like, I didn't even know they made these without them. And so anyways, I'm curious, man. Let me know. Fly out.
00:33:34
Denis Tyrell
So you're telling me you can't, when you go to the bathroom, you use the little flap and you don't have a fat peen in your hand?
00:33:42
echo_blades
I always have a fat bean in my head. I mean,
00:33:43
Denis Tyrell
But you don't, because half of it's still in there.
00:33:46
echo_blades
Yeah. Well, I guess, but you don't, yeah. I just take out enough to do the job. You know, <unk> what is that?
00:33:53
Denis Tyrell
just Just the tip.
00:33:53
echo_blades
being Bing, Bing Crosby. I think it's Bing Crosby. The joke that I guess he was a notoriously bigger dude. And the, the Rat Pack days, I guess there, there's a joke where is like, they're doing a contest or something.
00:34:08
echo_blades
They were like, no, was Milton Bradley. I think that's the guy.
00:34:10
Denis Tyrell
Milton Berle.
00:34:11
echo_blades
Milton Berle. Milton Berle. Whatever.
00:34:13
Denis Tyrell
Milton Berle is...
00:34:13
echo_blades
Whatever. but What is Milton Bradley?
00:34:14
Denis Tyrell
Yeah. Milton Berle is the game.
00:34:15
echo_blades
That's a game. yeah
00:34:20
echo_blades
Milton Berle. Just take out enough to win, Milton. Yeah, that's my motto with the Undies. Yeah, I don't know. ah That's...
00:34:31
echo_blades
um'm I'm...
00:34:32
Denis Tyrell
i don't think you can say that line anymore because it isn't grand because you don't have a fat peen in your hand when you go to the bathroom.
00:34:39
echo_blades
and No, I don't. But I do have a fat peen in my hand when I will a two bastards fat peen. Uh, if you're in the market for a new hammer, go check out, uh, two bastards, Smithian supplies. Uh, Frank and Nita will hook you up with the most awesome fat peen.
00:34:56
echo_blades
Uh, they got like peens of all kinds of varieties, uh, cross peens, straight peens, dual peens, double ended dual peens. Um, um, Doghead peen. they They got it all. So if you you need something to go beat your peen on, go check out Two Bastards, Smithy and Supply.
00:35:16
Denis Tyrell
Do it.
00:35:16
echo_blades
Because why? why don't we ask the Hustle and Grind boys?
00:35:19
Denis Tyrell
yeah i was just going to... Damn it, you just stole that. from I was just going to say that.
00:35:23
echo_blades
I guess we should. I was just going to say, yeah. I mean, I don't know. I'm thinking of a really cool catchphrase for that. What what do you think? How about like... um Oh, ain't it grand to have a fat peen in your hand?
00:35:36
Denis Tyrell
Right, yeah.
00:35:37
echo_blades
I think that one might stick.
00:35:42
Denis Tyrell
Noah and Ryan can't even use that. They don't have fat peens.
00:35:46
echo_blades
Yeah. by all By all means, my friends, fat peen it on. get get Get a two-fisted hand. ah
00:35:57
Denis Tyrell
No.
00:35:58
echo_blades
swear... If I hear the stranger come out of the grip tech, yeah we might have a little problem here, but if you're the market for a fantastic hand material, go check out grip tech composites. That's a grip tech official on IG maker of grip X grip X 3d the limitless.
00:36:18
echo_blades
ah for those higher finishes. ah Matt has some awesome styles and all kinds of different colors and glow in the dark. he's Whatever you need, he's got it.
00:36:29
echo_blades
Get that shit wet and it'll grip more. Um, and you could even feel it after the stranger. That's, that's, that's the way it goes. So you could use the discount code triple T 10 for 10% off your next purchase. And, uh, I got to rattle his cage about the, uh, the newsletter color of the week. He's got to get that back going. I hope that happens. Cause I was, that was a cool little deal there.
00:36:51
echo_blades
Um, so anyways, grip tech for the win and the stranger with a fat peen.
00:36:57
Denis Tyrell
Yes. Fat peen.
00:37:00
echo_blades
I'm going to keep running.
00:37:00
Denis Tyrell
Cryptech.
00:37:01
echo_blades
did I know you're talking about making Damascus, but if you don't want to make your don't own Damascus, you should check out Koi and the boys over at Baker Forged and Tool, ah maker of some awesome premium powder welded steel. This week, they have a a very, very exclusive limited run of the Blue Ridge...
00:37:23
echo_blades
Sanmai, which is, ah the, uh, four 10 stainless cladding Hitachi blue core. Um, they've had it around for a while, uh, and they just decided to, ah bust out a quick, uh, drop of that. So, um, that was released a couple of days ago. So, maybe gone, but I'd go check it out and see if you can do it.
00:37:47
echo_blades
Make sure you you're using the the app. You can get one day early access to the drops ahead of the website. And just remember, you got to clean it, etch it and protect it. Clean it with the Grime Reaper, um the ultimate roach cologne and etch it with Gator Piss. ah One of their um varieties, they have the OG Gator Piss, Gator Max and Gator Heavy.
00:38:14
echo_blades
And then you protect it with a gator or skin to give that nano ceramic beat off protection.
00:38:21
Denis Tyrell
Little roach. Hey, cabro. You got any...
00:38:24
echo_blades
yeah
00:38:27
Denis Tyrell
You got any oranges?
00:38:30
echo_blades
and do it again. Hey, cabron. yeah
00:38:35
Denis Tyrell
I'm laughing too hard. I can't do it.
00:38:40
echo_blades
I was just over at the maker house.
00:38:42
Denis Tyrell
What?
00:38:46
Denis Tyrell
oh
00:38:47
echo_blades
Come here, Jaina. Let's go. I'm going to take it for my...
00:38:50
Denis Tyrell
Screw Grime Reaper, man. They need to put that on the bottle.
00:38:55
echo_blades
It's just a freaking roach and a lowrider with some fuzzy freaking Damascus dice in the mirror.
00:39:06
Denis Tyrell
oh Yes.
00:39:07
echo_blades
That's some good stuff. Yeah. you Load up the cart with all of that stuff we just talked about. Use discount code TTT10 and get yourself 10% off your next purchase at Baker Forge and Tool.
00:39:22
echo_blades
That's some good stuff right there, man.
00:39:24
Denis Tyrell
Yeah.
00:39:25
echo_blades
like gabra
00:39:32
echo_blades
Oh man, I'm sure we're going to get PC'd on that one.
00:39:36
Denis Tyrell
Probably. Yeah. Well, you won't.
00:39:37
echo_blades
ah
00:39:38
Denis Tyrell
I will.
00:39:39
echo_blades
Yeah, for sure. That's good.
00:39:42
Denis Tyrell
i have ah I have a pretty cool build I'm excited about coming up. um And potentially a Triple T video coming from it.
Teasers for Upcoming Projects
00:39:50
Denis Tyrell
I'm not going let the cat out of the bag, but it's a cool Kumai buoy I'm working on um But doing something cool with the handle.
00:39:59
Denis Tyrell
So...
00:39:59
echo_blades
I... I'm interested in this.
00:40:02
Denis Tyrell
Yeah.
00:40:03
echo_blades
I think it's pretty cool.
00:40:05
Denis Tyrell
Yeah. um Yeah, i've never I've been curious about this process and I've never done it, so I'm going to try it out this weekend and I'll show you guys and talk about it next week.
00:40:17
echo_blades
I was, yeah, I, when you show me the picture, um I didn't quite understand what it was on and I was like, who's this fool stealing this from? But I have not seen it done either.
00:40:28
echo_blades
So,
00:40:29
Denis Tyrell
Oh, I've definitely seen it done.
00:40:31
echo_blades
I haven't seen a, on a knife handle.
00:40:34
Denis Tyrell
yeah Many times.
00:40:35
echo_blades
Huh? No, I haven't seen it.
00:40:37
Denis Tyrell
You live in a hole.
00:40:37
echo_blades
It must, it must be so old, but the, the picture that you showed me, I was like, Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's where I've seen it.
00:40:45
Denis Tyrell
Yeah.
00:40:46
echo_blades
So yeah, really cool.
00:40:46
Denis Tyrell
But, um, yeah.
00:40:48
echo_blades
Keep these fools in, uh, in suspense. It'll be really cool.
00:40:51
Denis Tyrell
That's right. That's right. Uh, I got my hotel booked for Knife Show Austria, at least for the actual show. Um, and, uh,
00:41:03
Denis Tyrell
Kim and I were looking at flights and we were considering what we were going to do after the show. um i think the candidates right now are either... Because I think we're going to go one other big city after the show. Because I don't really want to go like travel city, travel city, travel city like you know for three days.
00:41:23
Denis Tyrell
um So the candidates are Munich. Because we're already going to be spending like four days in Austria. in austria So we'll see Austria.
00:41:35
Denis Tyrell
So either we go to Munich, we go back to Paris, which that's actually pretty high on my list. um
00:41:44
echo_blades
Go to Little Sausage Land where they don't need the fly hole, the peel.
00:41:53
Denis Tyrell
o
00:41:53
echo_blades
Oh, jeez.
00:41:54
Denis Tyrell
Munich, Paris, or maybe even Barcelona, but I think I've been to Barcelona.
00:41:55
echo_blades
Goodness gracious.
00:41:59
echo_blades
I've heard fantastic things about Barcelona. I have heard fantastic things. I think we we were supposed to go there...
00:42:10
echo_blades
uh, right around the COVID time. We had a trip planned and it got canceled because of COVID. was super bummed I never made it out there, but I've heard from several people that that is a ah wonderful place.
00:42:22
Denis Tyrell
yeah I was there on a work trip, so I didn't fully experience everything, but we still got to like nightlife and get out and do stuff. But, and I was there for four days, I think, three, four days.
00:42:34
Denis Tyrell
Um, but it would be nice to go there as like full, you know, full tourist.
00:42:34
echo_blades
Hmm.
00:42:38
echo_blades
tourist. Yeah.
00:42:40
Denis Tyrell
Uh, but the only downside of Barcelona is we'd have to fly.
00:42:41
echo_blades
You never go full tourist.
00:42:44
Denis Tyrell
I just saw that movie the other day. Um,
00:42:47
echo_blades
I literally said that while I was golfing the last half of my, of the round, I could not chip the ball. And I said, you know, I was like, I've gone full tourist.
00:42:58
echo_blades
I can't do it. You never go full tourist.
00:43:02
Denis Tyrell
But we'd have to fly to Barcelona.
00:43:03
echo_blades
Yeah.
00:43:05
Denis Tyrell
Like at least Paris and Munich, we can just take a train and it's not that far. Barcelona, we're not taking a train. um So we'd have to fly there and flights are expensive.
00:43:16
Denis Tyrell
So I think Barcelona is probably out this time. um
00:43:21
echo_blades
You already been to Paris though too, right?
00:43:21
Denis Tyrell
it's tough I have, we have, geez, I could spend a month in Paris.
00:43:26
echo_blades
Oh, just not to live. All right.
00:43:28
Denis Tyrell
Yeah, not the Louvre. i like I could spend an hour, another hour in the Louvre and then I'd be done for another four years.
00:43:38
echo_blades
Hmm.
00:43:39
Denis Tyrell
um But there's tons of stuff to do in Paris. The food's awesome. Just hanging out in Paris is cool. But Munich looks really awesome too. And it's Munich is the closest. So I think it's only something like a four hour, not even three or four hour train ride or something close to that.
00:43:57
Denis Tyrell
which wouldn't be bad. And then we just fly home on out of Munich.
00:44:01
echo_blades
Nice.
00:44:02
Denis Tyrell
Yeah.
00:44:03
echo_blades
Not going.
00:44:05
Denis Tyrell
You're officially not going.
00:44:06
echo_blades
Officially not going. Not this year.
00:44:09
Denis Tyrell
You're going to miss it.
00:44:10
echo_blades
I'm going to miss it. I'll have FOMO. I'll regret it. I know, but not.
00:44:15
Denis Tyrell
Well, I'm already looking at prices and I'm regretting it because
00:44:18
echo_blades
Yeah, I was going to say there's that.
00:44:21
Denis Tyrell
the flight's going to be like $3,200 for the two of us, something like that.
00:44:26
echo_blades
Hmm.
00:44:27
Denis Tyrell
um plus any upgrades we do and then well we got majority i got four days of the hotels already booked so we just got to do the flights and then the other whatever we do out of um the other hotels we do so
00:44:47
echo_blades
Do you sell any knives?
00:44:49
Denis Tyrell
did i sell any knives um
00:44:51
echo_blades
Yeah. Did you get any more hits on your on the drop point?
00:44:56
Denis Tyrell
I did. i sold a um that, i I mean, I don't remember if I mentioned the stainless Damascus, the last one I had, the stainless Damascus holder.
00:45:10
echo_blades
The one that I liked?
00:45:11
Denis Tyrell
No, no, stainless Damascus. Not the stainless, not the Sanmai.
00:45:14
echo_blades
Oh, the folder of the sand. Okay.
00:45:17
Denis Tyrell
Yeah, the the stainless Damascus folder. That went and then a a couple of the smaller knives like chef knives and stuff. So yeah, it definitely works. You guys want to
00:45:27
echo_blades
Nice.
00:45:28
Denis Tyrell
move some knives get them up on the drop point it's a free free there's the operative word free weekly newsletter that goes out to uh knife buyers not just makers um so you don't have to worry about social media throttling you get your style stuff up on the drop point So get it up there and sell some knives.
00:45:54
Denis Tyrell
And if you're in the in the market for some folder material, folder equipment, go head over to the SCIF workshop and pick up some some of the best bearings on the market, which I actually have to put in an order over there.
00:46:09
Denis Tyrell
Get myself some bearings for all these folders I'm about to make. um
00:46:13
echo_blades
Nice.
00:46:14
Denis Tyrell
So my, I put in a full order for those, uh, send cuts. And so 10, uh, 10 sets of liners for the silky model.
00:46:26
Denis Tyrell
And then 10 sets for that, um, sand tiger X. Oh, I did.
00:46:32
echo_blades
nice
00:46:33
Denis Tyrell
I did do the design. i haven't, like I did it in knife print for the auto version of the silky. So the, the,
00:46:43
echo_blades
Oh, bro. What did you call it? Shark bait? ooa
00:46:50
echo_blades
Shark bait.
00:46:53
echo_blades
What is that? What is the real name of it?
00:46:55
Denis Tyrell
It's the Silky.
00:46:57
echo_blades
No, the little guy.
00:46:59
Denis Tyrell
The Sand Tiger.
00:47:01
echo_blades
No, the little dude, the little auto.
00:47:01
Denis Tyrell
Oh, you're talking about all the, that's the shark tooth.
00:47:05
echo_blades
The shark tooth. That thing was fucking awesome.
00:47:07
Denis Tyrell
Oh, the little keychain knife.
00:47:07
echo_blades
i I wanted to hate it. i I wanted to hate it so bad and you let me play with it and dude, that thing is endlessly awesome and so cool.
00:47:11
Denis Tyrell
yeah
00:47:23
Denis Tyrell
It does have that fidget factor to it, right?
00:47:25
echo_blades
ah dude next level next level i'm pretty sure i'd cut my peen off in my pocket because that thing was fucking powerful and it is fun that is that is cool you gotta yeah yeah you gotta do that
00:47:25
Denis Tyrell
it's
00:47:40
Denis Tyrell
Yeah. I just, got to get those down to make them simpler to make. Because it it probably would take me like,
00:47:51
Denis Tyrell
I mean, I've never batched them, but that one took me like two days to make. So that's kind of...
00:47:57
echo_blades
That's crazy because it's so tiny. That's probably why it's... Yeah, it's probably just because your first time through, though.
00:48:03
Denis Tyrell
I mean, it's hard.
00:48:04
echo_blades
Yeah.
00:48:05
Denis Tyrell
Like, you got heat treat it. You got to grind the frames. You got to get the lock up. Like, there's not a lot of knives you could make in under two days, right? No matter how long.
00:48:16
echo_blades
yeah Oh, yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yes, you're you're you're right. Oversimplify. Just because how small it is. It was shockingly smaller than I thought it was going to be, but it was freaking badass.
00:48:28
echo_blades
I really, I really, I really like it.
00:48:30
Denis Tyrell
Yeah, if I can batch them, um then, and that mic it might make it a little more affordable than, because, yeah, I feel like I got to get those, like, in the $200 range, even though the blade is Damascus. I got to get it down to that range to make them sellable kind of thing.
00:48:52
Denis Tyrell
So... But it's and now I have something where if I have tiny little offcuts, I have something to use for that.
00:49:00
echo_blades
Yeah.
00:49:02
Denis Tyrell
So.
00:49:02
echo_blades
I want to make one. that that That thing was awesome.
00:49:05
Denis Tyrell
Yeah.
00:49:06
echo_blades
Really cool.
00:49:07
Denis Tyrell
Yeah. There's not a lot of a spring, not a lot of hardware to it.
00:49:12
echo_blades
Oh,
00:49:13
Denis Tyrell
Three, well, there three eight-inch um
00:49:18
Denis Tyrell
pivots because I use those as stoppins and end.
00:49:20
echo_blades
nice. All right.
00:49:23
Denis Tyrell
But anyway, they're not that hard to make, but just getting that auto function is a little tedious, but I'll have to just document all the, the depths and counterbores and all that shit.
00:49:37
echo_blades
Gotcha. All right. Hey guys, don't forget to the fundraiser for Bob Gore.
00:49:38
Denis Tyrell
Yeah.
00:49:41
echo_blades
Still going 15 bucks a spot. Hit up Noah for details. He'll give you a link. I did that this weekend.
00:49:52
echo_blades
um You can win multiple items with multiple spots. Probably more makers in here than 10 now, but some awesome people participating. Yeah.
00:50:03
echo_blades
um And shout out to Noah and Brandon for putting that together for Bob. And go get yourself a spot if you haven't done it already.
00:50:14
Denis Tyrell
Yeah. um I actually have something. I set it out for sale for Patreon members, but um no one has bit yet. I am, since I have the new laser, I am selling the F1 Ultra.
00:50:31
Denis Tyrell
So what if you are in the market for a laser,
00:50:31
echo_blades
Oh.
00:50:35
Denis Tyrell
And this is a 20 watt fiber laser and diode combo. Retails for like $4,600 with the attachments.
00:50:46
Denis Tyrell
And I'm getting rid of it for $1,500. So if you want a laser, um reach out to me. Either whatever, email or Instagram or whatever.
00:50:56
Denis Tyrell
um Reach out to me. You got to pay the shipping. But... If you want an awesome laser, it will definitely mark steel. It'll even do you know depth maps and things like that.
00:51:08
Denis Tyrell
um
00:51:11
Denis Tyrell
it It comes with um the conveyor and the rotary attachment. So check it out.
00:51:20
echo_blades
That's amazing deal.
00:51:22
Denis Tyrell
Yeah. If you want more info, reach out to me.
00:51:27
echo_blades
Nice.
00:51:29
echo_blades
Nice, nice, nice.
00:51:32
Denis Tyrell
But we got one more, ah two more ad reads.
00:51:32
echo_blades
What else?
00:51:36
Denis Tyrell
um If you guys are looking for it anything else knife making related, you got to go to Maritime Knife Supply because they got all the goods.
00:51:43
echo_blades
Mm-hmm.
00:51:45
Denis Tyrell
Go get yourself some abrasives, some steel, some handle material, some tooling. I was actually, i was hunting for some ah pivots.
00:51:58
Denis Tyrell
Um, There's a special pivot with the head on the top called the sex bolt that I was looking for in a specific size and a specific thread.
00:52:09
Denis Tyrell
And couldn't believe you didn't say to me.
00:52:10
echo_blades
I was going to ice you that, and I couldn't. You're fucking making it impossible. Trey would beat me if I didn't fucking tell you that we all know you need the big sex bolt.
00:52:26
echo_blades
You'd pivot your ass right onto that thing.
00:52:28
Denis Tyrell
But only Maritime had those sex bolts in the size that I needed. So Lawrence will get you all set up with your sex bolts.
00:52:40
Denis Tyrell
So go me check out.
00:52:40
echo_blades
Where can I find these sex boats? Yeah, right there at the maritime. I'm looking for the sexy You go to maritime, he get it.
00:52:50
Denis Tyrell
I need to make sexy time with the bolts.
00:53:01
echo_blades
a
00:53:01
Denis Tyrell
Go to Maritime Knife Supply. and Besides Sex Bolts, he's got a lot of good stuff too.
00:53:07
echo_blades
That's right.
00:53:08
Denis Tyrell
Man.
00:53:10
echo_blades
Good stuff.
00:53:11
Denis Tyrell
Yeah. And when you're done,
00:53:12
echo_blades
oh How could you not segue into wax right after the sex bowl?
00:53:16
Denis Tyrell
you've got to wax it.
00:53:16
echo_blades
Go hit him with it, my friend. a
00:53:20
Denis Tyrell
When you're done with all those all those knives, you've got to keep them looking pretty, whether it's the blade, whether it's the handle, you name it. ah Go get some Pelican Paste at pelicanpaste.com.
00:53:32
Denis Tyrell
The hard wax, the soft wax, great for handles or knives. Pelican oil, I know Jared loves that stuff on the grip tech, the hand side.
00:53:42
echo_blades
e
00:53:43
Denis Tyrell
your hands nice and smooth. The soap, well, you better wash them first before you use the hand salve. And butternut seasoning for your cast iron pans.
00:53:55
Denis Tyrell
He's got it all.
00:53:55
echo_blades
That's right.
00:53:55
Denis Tyrell
And it all smells like oranges. Just like...
00:53:58
echo_blades
he betterter cavron You better not forget the Pelican Pace.
00:53:58
Denis Tyrell
Hey, cabrón.
00:54:09
Denis Tyrell
He is the El Jefe of Paste.
00:54:12
echo_blades
There you go.
00:54:13
Denis Tyrell
yeah pelicanbase.com use the discount code triple t10
00:54:17
echo_blades
Dia de los Muertos.
00:54:21
echo_blades
We're going to celebrate a little Mexican holiday. de los Muertos. 10% off.
00:54:28
Denis Tyrell
and
00:54:30
echo_blades
Triple T10. TTT10. There you go.
00:54:34
Denis Tyrell
that's right you got anything more to say we're going to go to maker spotlights
00:54:35
echo_blades
there you go
00:54:41
echo_blades
What do I got? Nah, I can hold on to whatever I got left here.
00:54:45
Denis Tyrell
Oh, I have a poker game this Friday, so I'm hoping to win some money.
00:54:49
echo_blades
Boring!
00:54:50
Denis Tyrell
Maybe maybe even $100. Oh, don't you even after. Oh, I played this skin game and i worn a hundred dollars
00:54:54
echo_blades
So won't you cry about it?
00:54:57
Denis Tyrell
so
00:54:57
echo_blades
Won't you cry about Nothing sounds more riveting than hanging out with some dudes and losing money.
00:55:00
Denis Tyrell
ah
00:55:05
echo_blades
Great. Oh.
00:55:06
Denis Tyrell
won $100.
00:55:06
echo_blades
I...
00:55:07
Denis Tyrell
What do you mean?
00:55:07
echo_blades
i
00:55:07
Denis Tyrell
That's exactly what you did in golf.
00:55:09
echo_blades
i really i wrote the I wrote the book on poker.
00:55:10
Denis Tyrell
Hang out with some dudes and lose money.
00:55:17
echo_blades
How to Take Advantage of Your Dumb Friends by Dennis Trout.
00:55:21
Denis Tyrell
That's what I want you to play.
00:55:23
echo_blades
That's why I ain't playing, homie.
00:55:26
Denis Tyrell
right. I'll go Make your spotlight.
00:55:28
echo_blades
Goodness gracious.
00:55:28
Denis Tyrell
i'll go first make your spotlight um I have ah Patterson Forge, and this is ah Richard Patterson.
00:55:40
Denis Tyrell
um Just some amazing Damascus. I know he's definitely one of, I'll call him Maraco's disciples, because I'm seeing all kinds of gradients and patterns that are very...
00:55:54
Denis Tyrell
very familiar with just from moreko side i'm not saying he all his patterns come moreko but uh he's uh definitely got some amazing things and he's he has definitely um
00:56:07
Denis Tyrell
started to use the gradients a lot and they look awesome uh um ah Cleaver on his site looks amazing. And I really like that um that twist, which is on the top row of his profile.
00:56:22
Denis Tyrell
It's a twist. It's a it's pretty simple one. It's just a gradient layer, but then twisted. just looks really cool.
00:56:31
echo_blades
There's a top left.
00:56:33
Denis Tyrell
Top right.
00:56:35
echo_blades
Oh ye yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Holy shit.
00:56:37
Denis Tyrell
Yeah. Looks good, right?
00:56:40
echo_blades
Oh man. Dude, that is, that's yeah.
00:56:44
Denis Tyrell
Yeah, that's nice.
00:56:48
Denis Tyrell
Very cool.
00:56:50
echo_blades
I just zoning out. Looks like a bunch of eyeballs. Yeah.
00:56:54
Denis Tyrell
Yeah, it's really cool. um So this is Richard Patterson. um Check him out. He's got just over, well, he's got 1,426 followers. um Yeah, give him some love. Go check him out.
00:57:09
Denis Tyrell
He has been on Artisans of Steel, which is Marekko's podcast, um chit-chatting about Damascus. So, yeah, go take a look.
00:57:18
echo_blades
Nice.
00:57:21
echo_blades
Very cool. Uh, I got a guy named, uh, Jake B creates Jake B Ginsburg. Uh, don't know where he's out of, but he is the maker of the chickadee knife. And I believe, i hope I got this right. But, um, I was talking with, uh,
00:57:45
echo_blades
think it was Corey Dunlop last at Texas. And he pulled out this little itty bitty knife, tiny, and um said that his buddy Jake makes this thing, man.
00:57:59
echo_blades
And I was holding, dude, it's like this big, maybe three, four inches, maybe whole, it's, it's fricking tiny.
00:58:06
Denis Tyrell
The whole night?
00:58:10
echo_blades
And um maybe maybe a little bigger. i don't know. It's super small. But when I looked at it, I would have swore that this thing was like machine ground.
00:58:21
echo_blades
Like it was so dialed in really well done um that I was I was super impressed. And I thought he was at the show because I was going to go talk to him. But apparently he didn't he didn't make it to Texas. But um Yeah, so he makes these little e bitty EDCs called the Chickadee.
00:58:41
echo_blades
um And they were just freaking badass. So cool. um And that is not the knife... that just came up in my feed randomly. It's the one on the top right.
00:58:55
echo_blades
that's That's the theme for today. But this little Warren Cliff like um compound grind, just really cool.
00:58:58
Denis Tyrell
Uh-huh, yep.
00:59:03
echo_blades
like the The grinds on this thing are freaking amazing. So anyways, that just popped up in my feed today. And I found the the maker of that little chickadee.
00:59:15
echo_blades
And i think is really cool. So I wanted to shout him out. He has 16.1 thousand followers. And if you're not following him, go go check him out.
00:59:26
echo_blades
And yeah, tell to both the guys, the boys at Triple T said what's up.
00:59:33
Denis Tyrell
Yeah, it's cool. um So I got a question and I'm not throwing any shade or anything like that.
00:59:35
echo_blades
got a bunch of a bunch of cool stuff. So.
00:59:40
Denis Tyrell
I'm just wondering that compound grind, like besides like the cool factor, is there is there a reason for that?
00:59:48
echo_blades
You know, in my i have a couple of of knives. I just know they're bitch to sharpen. And I don't know. i can't remember.
01:00:05
Denis Tyrell
I mean, I've seen on like a tracker, but I've never seen it like that where like the grind is so subtle that, i mean, it's definitely cool.
01:00:15
echo_blades
I can't Brent Brent and John rough 38 are going to kick my ass.
01:00:16
Denis Tyrell
There's a cool factor.
01:00:19
echo_blades
Cause I can't, can't, can't fucking remember what, uh, what the purpose was, but, um, I have a knife. I think it's called the Deca. The Hogue Deca is, uh, is the, the folder that I have that has that grind on there.
01:00:34
echo_blades
Very similar. Um, but no, I don't, I, I'd be bullshitting you if I told you what the purpose was, but,
01:00:40
Denis Tyrell
Yeah, like, I mean, it looks a little like the, the oh, you know, it might be hollow there.
01:00:43
echo_blades
And I lost the page, so. Oh, there is
01:00:48
Denis Tyrell
It's really hard to tell.
01:00:50
echo_blades
Yeah.
01:00:53
Denis Tyrell
Yeah, that might be it. One might be hollow and one might be a flat grind.
01:00:59
echo_blades
Yeah, that could be.
01:01:00
Denis Tyrell
I think that's it.
01:01:00
echo_blades
I don't recall mine's.
01:01:01
Denis Tyrell
I think that's why.
01:01:03
echo_blades
don't know. One's a little. It's a thicker edge on the on the on the front side and a little thinner on the back.
01:01:09
Denis Tyrell
yeah Yeah, I think the back end of it, the the part closer to the handle is a hollow grind and the front is a flat grind. So I guess you're going to be a little, you know, it's going to be a little slicier at the hollow, but then you don't want to weaken the tip.
01:01:24
Denis Tyrell
And the the the front part of it where it's thinner with ah with a now make it a hollow grind and make it even thinner. So I guess that's why he's done it, which is pretty cool.
01:01:34
echo_blades
Yeah. i don't know. Somebody school us up.
01:01:38
Denis Tyrell
Yeah, if it was two flat grinds with different angles, that would be weird to me. But I'm pretty sure that that small one is a is a hollow, which is cool.
01:01:49
Denis Tyrell
So yeah, cool stuff.
01:01:51
echo_blades
Yeah. Like that. That chickadee kicks ass. So.
01:01:56
Denis Tyrell
You're gonna get in the shop this week or what?
01:01:56
echo_blades
Yeah. I got lots to do. Yes.
01:02:00
Denis Tyrell
Oh, that's good.
01:02:00
echo_blades
I got lots to do.
01:02:02
Denis Tyrell
I like to hear you motivated.
01:02:02
echo_blades
So. I am motivated.
01:02:05
Denis Tyrell
Nice.
01:02:06
echo_blades
I'm always motivated. i have been very busy.
01:02:10
Denis Tyrell
ah Yeah, I kind of have a fire lit under my ass now that we're...
01:02:10
echo_blades
But.
01:02:16
Denis Tyrell
Blade Show looming faster and faster. We're already middle of the month.
01:02:21
echo_blades
Yeah, it is. that that That is a definite motivator. But the the the real kicker for me is those that Jared's got. He got his job.
01:02:33
echo_blades
So um he's busy one most Weekends at least one day. So we're not, uh, it gives me more opportunity to, to get in the shop. Cause said it a million times. That's, that's priority.
01:02:49
echo_blades
Uh, hanging out with him while he's, while I have the time with him. So there'll be, there'll be other blade shows. He's only going to be hopefully around for a little while longer, but yeah, got to take advantage of this time.
01:03:00
Denis Tyrell
Hey, when's your fishing trip? Is it this weekend or next weekend?
01:03:03
echo_blades
Next weekend.
01:03:05
Denis Tyrell
Next weekend. Are you going to miss the show or are you back?
01:03:07
echo_blades
I don't think so. i think I'll be back Monday. come i come back home Monday, so I should be back Monday evening.
01:03:15
Denis Tyrell
All right. We're going to hear all your fish stories about how they got away.
01:03:20
echo_blades
Yeah, that's why they call it fishing and not catching.
01:03:23
Denis Tyrell
Yes.
01:03:24
echo_blades
So, yeah, but I'm super looking forward to that. But I don't want to get excited yet. I got to keep these things at bay um for my own mental sake because...
01:03:36
echo_blades
can't it's like escapism right i'll be sitting at work and i always do that i just i keep things as goals and there's something to look forward to but i try not to work myself up otherwise end up missing out on what i'm supposed to be doing so Yeah, I got to bust out the Ameribrade surface grinder, get those knives cleaned up and bring them by fur to Rockwell test them and then get busy making miracles happen.
01:04:10
Denis Tyrell
Alright, let me know when you want to stop by.
01:04:12
echo_blades
All right. Or maybe I'll just bring them and stop by. no I won't be there tomorrow. Fuck. Wednesday.
01:04:19
Denis Tyrell
Okay.
01:04:20
echo_blades
I'm from home tomorrow, so.
01:04:23
Denis Tyrell
Alrighty, I'm going try and... going to try to get to...
01:04:26
echo_blades
I'm not going to set you up again and drop them off straight out of the temper again.
01:04:28
Denis Tyrell
yeah fine fuck you, I'm not...
01:04:31
echo_blades
was not intentional. That was not intentional. but It would be if I did it this time. so
01:04:40
Denis Tyrell
I think I'm gonna be at a standstill waiting for some tooling on that buoy. um So I think I'm gonna start that auto, the silky auto version.
01:04:53
echo_blades
right.
01:04:53
Denis Tyrell
And because if I can get that one, I'd love to have a couple of those on the table to play. That would be awesome.
01:05:00
echo_blades
Cool. All right, man.
01:05:01
Denis Tyrell
So,
01:05:03
echo_blades
Let's get out of here.
01:05:04
Denis Tyrell
all right, we are out.
01:05:23
echo_blades
And that's a wrap.
01:05:26
echo_blades
Ah, Ted.