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E119: A day late and a Jerid short
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Jerid is a sick puppy so this week we have our best bud, Brent Smith, from Bald Man Knife and Tool join and make up for Jerid's lack of presence. (Yeah, he's a wuss). We'll press on and talk about Blade Show!
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Transcript
Introduction and Team Changes
00:00:16
Denis Tyrell
Hey everybody, welcome to another Triple T for Knife Makers podcast. We are a day late and a Jared short. But no fear, i have my buddy Brent Smith here to take up my pussy teammate Slack.
00:00:34
Denis Tyrell
He says he's sick, but I don't know if I believe it.
00:00:36
Bald Man
Yeah, he was playing it up, laying in bed, being a baby.
00:00:38
Denis Tyrell
ah Yeah...
00:00:42
Denis Tyrell
I said it's probably from too much golf. I said that's probably it.
00:00:46
Bald Man
Yeah. Yeah, he caught something on the golf course.
00:00:51
Denis Tyrell
Wussiness.
00:00:52
Bald Man
That guy. But I'm happy to be here, man. Glad he wussed out and was being a big puss and I could be on here.
00:01:00
Denis Tyrell
Yeah, it's always fun to have you on, Brad.
00:01:02
Bald Man
Yeah, I love it.
00:01:03
Denis Tyrell
So I got it the first thing on everyone's mind. Actually, we'll save that for a few things. We got a few things to to talk about.
Weekend Recap and Personal Stories
00:01:12
Denis Tyrell
First, we just finished a long weekend for Memorial Day. so hopefully everyone enjoyed the long weekend and...
00:01:21
Denis Tyrell
you know, thought about the reason for the holiday. um i was a bachelor all weekend because um Kim was at Universal Studios. How was your long weekend?
00:01:32
Bald Man
All right. um It was pretty good. It was actually my wife's birthday on Friday.
00:01:39
Denis Tyrell
Oh, all right.
00:01:40
Bald Man
kind of, we went to a hockey game Friday night and then Saturday we drove over to Fort Lauderdale, Miami area and hung out all day and then headed back in the evening. So yeah, we had a full weekend and then Memorial Day, we just kind of relaxed and got some rest and did some yard work. So There was that.
00:02:02
Denis Tyrell
Nice. Nice. I work all weekend. ah
00:02:06
Bald Man
I feel like a lot of people in our community are working around the clock right now.
00:02:06
Denis Tyrell
There's that.
Knife-Making Preparations for Blade Show
00:02:12
Denis Tyrell
ah a Funny thing is um I am more ahead than I've ever been for blade show.
00:02:20
Bald Man
Yeah. Yeah.
00:02:20
Denis Tyrell
Last week, middle of last week, I finished what I thought was going to be my last knife. And I was like contemplating, Oh, I'm just going to do some other shit. And then, I got to bug up my ass Friday to start a new folder, which is now going to be complete tomorrow. And I got another knife. So I'm like way ahead of the curve.
00:02:41
Bald Man
All right.
00:02:42
Denis Tyrell
Yeah.
00:02:42
Bald Man
That's how it always goes, right?
00:02:42
Denis Tyrell
That's,
00:02:44
Bald Man
Whenever you hit your deadline and you've got everything, then all of a sudden you get really antsy and you feel like um I could squeeze in one more or there's something else that I could tweak, whether it's display or maybe do another sheath or fix little stuff here and there.
00:03:03
Bald Man
So yeah, there's always something last minute that makes you push it to crunch time.
00:03:10
Denis Tyrell
Yeah, i'm I'm actually really um really happy in lot of things. I did a whole new display this year that um my video this Thursday is going to be about that display and just talk about.
00:03:22
Bald Man
OK, good.
00:03:23
Denis Tyrell
I've had a few people talk to me about, you know, what should I do for my display at Blade Show? And i've I know you've tried all kinds of things and I'm taking a
00:03:32
Bald Man
who
00:03:34
Denis Tyrell
one page from your book and I've got the overhead sign, which I, I don't know why I slept so long on that one, but yeah, banners and must, the table cover I think is the like ground zero.
00:03:42
Bald Man
Yeah, banner is a must.
00:03:48
Denis Tyrell
You need the nice table cover that has your logo on it.
00:03:51
Bald Man
Yeah.
Marketing and Display Strategies
00:03:52
Denis Tyrell
Um, but I think the banner is super helpful, especially at blade show when there's 900 tables, uh, you need to stand out. Hmm.
00:04:01
Bald Man
Yeah, people always do the, I'm going to keep walking and I'll come back. And if they can't find you, they're not coming back.
00:04:08
Denis Tyrell
exactly yeah yeah and um
00:04:12
Bald Man
Good. So you're working on full, a whole new display or just adding a few things. What's going on?
00:04:19
Denis Tyrell
so the first thing i'm going to do which i i've said i was going to do in the past and just never got around and just never did it but this year i'm definitely jacking the table up
00:04:28
Bald Man
Okay.
00:04:28
Denis Tyrell
So, cause the, all those tables, if you guys don't know, all those tables have, um, feet to go down. So you can actually jack the table up like six to eight inches. That's the first thing we're going to do.
00:04:40
Denis Tyrell
So I want the table to be higher.
00:04:40
Bald Man
Yeah.
00:04:42
Denis Tyrell
Almost. I mean, I'm going to get it to go as high as it can go. Uh, cause I would prefer it be standing height because I don't, I hate, I think it's a terror.
00:04:49
Bald Man
Yeah.
00:04:52
Denis Tyrell
And I know you agree with this. It's a terrible idea to be sitting at your table and talking to people.
00:04:58
Bald Man
Yeah.
00:04:58
Denis Tyrell
Right. You need to be standing up.
00:04:59
Bald Man
And it's, it's,
00:04:59
Denis Tyrell
but You need to be eye to eye.
00:05:01
Bald Man
Yeah, you need to be eye to eye. It's also visually people are able to see what you have better when they're there at the table.
00:05:10
Denis Tyrell
Yeah. Right.
00:05:12
Bald Man
So that's good.
00:05:13
Denis Tyrell
Yeah. So I'm jacking everything up and i made, see, I'm flying on a plane.
00:05:13
Bald Man
Moving the table up.
00:05:18
Denis Tyrell
So part of it is what can I do that I can still fit in the suitcase? So I made their 24 inch, I'm using my hands that you can't see 24 inches long and they're up about, um, about a foot off the top of the table.
00:05:29
Bald Man
Okay.
00:05:37
Denis Tyrell
And then it's a bar that has two lines of magnets in it with felt over top and it's at a 45 degree angle.
00:05:45
Bald Man
Perfect.
00:05:45
Denis Tyrell
So all the knives are going to be stuck and there's two of those.
00:05:46
Bald Man
Awesome.
00:05:51
Denis Tyrell
So all the buoy knives are on one, all the folders are on another. And I made a really fancy display for the big dagger.
00:05:56
Bald Man
OK.
00:05:58
Denis Tyrell
And then the chef knives and other, the low end stuff will actually be down on the table. So everything is up visible from a ways away.
00:06:03
Bald Man
Good.
00:06:08
Denis Tyrell
Um, now with the signage and everything. So I'm happy.
00:06:12
Bald Man
Yeah.
00:06:12
Denis Tyrell
Plus got a new table this year. So happy about that too.
00:06:14
Bald Man
Good.
00:06:16
Denis Tyrell
We're closer to the front.
00:06:16
Bald Man
Yeah, so you moved yeah you moved further up to the front from where you've been the last few years?
00:06:21
Denis Tyrell
Yeah, where we used to be at 23.0, which was actually a nice location for traffic because it's kind of on like a corner.
00:06:30
Bald Man
Yeah.
00:06:32
Denis Tyrell
um Not exactly on a corner, but there's two of those big um hallways or aisleways, whatever, which was right.
00:06:38
Bald Man
Right. It's kind of a thoroughfare.
00:06:41
Denis Tyrell
But I think it'll be nicer to be closer to the front. So now I'm at the exact same column. I'm still 0, but I'm 7.0. So quite a bit closer to the front.
00:06:51
Bald Man
Okay. Yeah.
00:06:53
Denis Tyrell
um I am surrounded by except for one guy who's the guy right behind me, everyone's a master smith around me. but So um I guess I'm in good company, scale
00:07:02
Bald Man
Oh, all right.
00:07:05
Bald Man
So yeah, that's where that's where you need to be because those are the customers that you're looking for.
00:07:11
Denis Tyrell
Right.
00:07:11
Bald Man
um The customers that come to the show looking for the ABS knives. That's where you want to be at.
00:07:18
Denis Tyrell
Yeah. So I'm kind of in that,
00:07:19
Bald Man
For me, that would be a nice
00:07:21
Denis Tyrell
Yeah. Well, I think you'll do well wherever you are. But um yeah, I am in the kind of the ABS area, which is where I wanted to be.
00:07:29
Bald Man
Yeah, good, good. Yeah, I think for the table displays, i always really like the tiered displays. I like your idea of doing tiered. I've tried that in the past, and the thing that frustrated me with the tiered setup that I had, I think the first year, maybe the second year at Blade Show, but definitely the first, I made these big displays, and the problem I had was they had cubbies where you would set the knives, so like a little shelf.
00:07:56
Denis Tyrell
I remember. Yeah.
00:07:58
Bald Man
um And the the frustrating thing for me was people would come up to the table and ask a question about the knife and point at it, and I would have to crane my neck around to be able to see which knife they were talking about. So that was ah a pinch point for me, but I really do like the tiered stuff. so And those boards, magnetic boards, are are a really solid move. So yeah, it'll be cool.
00:08:22
Denis Tyrell
Yeah, plus I can see them because the board is only three inches thick, so and I can see over it because they're at a 45-degree angle.
00:08:25
Bald Man
Yeah.
00:08:28
Bald Man
Right.
00:08:30
Denis Tyrell
So if they're pointing at something, can still see it, um which is – yeah, i I love the displays.
00:08:31
Bald Man
Right. Good.
00:08:36
Denis Tyrell
They're also very light, um and they're – you know obviously they dismantle and they will fit in a suitcase because they're only 24 inches. um So I haven't weighed my suitcase yet when they're in it, but um yeah, hopefully everything goes well.
00:08:53
Bald Man
Good. Yeah, I feel like every show I change my display somehow. i always I always feel like there's something I could tweak better. you know I didn't like what I did in Texas, which that was moving back to a table and So I tried something and I needed to tweak it. And so I tweaked it a little bit and made some new displays, which funny you're talking about going to like nice wood and finished and all that. My displays this this year and Atlanta are going to be cardboard. Yeah.
00:09:26
Bald Man
I, and the reason I did that, I always did 3D printed, three d printed um little stands for the knives. And i don't know, I have a new t-shirt and stickers and everything that I started doing, which are the the tagline is my knife has seen some things.
00:09:43
Bald Man
And then below the image, it says mostly cardboard or mostly boxes.
00:09:45
Denis Tyrell
I like it.
00:09:49
Bald Man
ah Um, so I felt like I'm like, oh, well, this fits perfect. I was going to 3d print some little boxes out of some brown filament to look like boxes.
00:10:00
Bald Man
And then I was like, why don't I just design some cardboard cutouts that I can laser cut and display everything there. So that's what I'm doing for this year.
00:10:09
Denis Tyrell
Yeah, and it's cheaper.
00:10:11
Bald Man
It's cheaper and it's fun because it's going to go with the theme. So I'm into it. We'll see if I do it again next year, but I'm definitely into it this year.
00:10:19
Denis Tyrell
Yeah, and you're driving, right? So you can, even if it was something big and bulky, you have the luxury of just throwing in the car. um
00:10:26
Bald Man
Yeah, I'll be driving. Uh, but you know, I got four people in the car driving with me, so we're going to be loaded up. We're bringing a truck this year.
00:10:32
Denis Tyrell
yeah Four people with you?
00:10:34
Bald Man
Uh, sorry, three people. So total of four of us.
00:10:35
Denis Tyrell
Okay, it was going to say, yeah, you and Therese, yeah.
00:10:38
Bald Man
Yeah. So yeah, but I bring a mini fridge and all that stuff. So, um, and because I have the booth, I have to bring, you know, when you get a booth, they don't provide you a chairs, a table.
00:10:51
Bald Man
It's just a 10 by 10 box. Um,
00:10:53
Denis Tyrell
So they don't even give you a table?
00:10:55
Bald Man
Not even a table. So I have to bring my whole display, which is I can tear it down and packs small for what it is.
00:10:57
Denis Tyrell
wow
00:11:07
Bald Man
that's a total It's an eight foot display. So I took a eight foot butcher block and cut it into two pieces. So I have two four foot four by 24, you know, 48 by 24 butcher block tables. And then I got some shelving. Um, and cut it down to the height that I wanted it at. And I just use that shelving and make all that. So it it looks like a nice, you know, it turns out to be a really nice table display. Uh, gets you up. So yeah, we're high. I think I forget what it was. I, I want to say it's like 36 inches high, maybe a little higher. Um, so we're, you can literally stand and rest your arms on.
00:11:51
Denis Tyrell
i love that the the only the only down i wish see if i was um if i was driving or if yeah i'm i doubt we'd do it but if like there was a target nearby would go find one of those standing chairs um that that that would be nice because you know you know that we don't have talking right those really really tall like a director's chair that would be perfect
00:11:51
Bald Man
Um, so we're right there.
00:11:53
Bald Man
Yeah, it's,
00:12:08
Bald Man
Yeah.
00:12:13
Bald Man
Yeah.
00:12:18
Bald Man
Yeah.
00:12:19
Denis Tyrell
Because then you could kind of lean on it and it doesn't. Because if I sit down, the table is going to be like up here.
00:12:24
Bald Man
We... Yeah, I didn't bring chairs last year, and so we did a Walmart run Thursday night last year um and got some folding stools.
00:12:36
Bald Man
So they were tall enough, and they're easy enough to get in and out of, so you can sit down when you need to and you're still eye level because you're basically standing in them anyway. So definitely be bringing those again this year.
00:12:50
Denis Tyrell
Hmm.
00:12:50
Bald Man
But yeah, the booth, they they give you nothing. They give you just a 10 by 10 box.
00:12:56
Denis Tyrell
Wow. And it's how much? Like $1,200 or something crazy?
00:13:02
Bald Man
It's a little more than that.
00:13:03
Denis Tyrell
Wow.
00:13:05
Bald Man
Yeah.
00:13:05
Denis Tyrell
Jesus. You're scaring the shit out of me.
00:13:06
Bald Man
Yeah. But it's so worth it. Again, so I bring ah i bring a crew with me and that crew, they're all in the knives. So they always go and buy stuff.
00:13:16
Bald Man
And you know how it is, even with a table, you know, when you go get handle material and whatever, you're trying to store it under the table.
00:13:22
Denis Tyrell
Yeah. Tons of crap under the table.
00:13:25
Bald Man
Yeah. And so this is great because it's kind of a landing spot where we can, know, There's plenty of room to put stuff. And when you're, you know, one of the guys goes and gets lunch, we can eat lunch away from the table back in the back. And yeah, it works out great.
00:13:42
Denis Tyrell
Yeah, that's good. So how's the, how's the actual prep for the, uh, the show going like knife, knife, knife stuff, actual stuff to sell.
00:13:50
Bald Man
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, the knives are going good. i have one knife to finish up. i kind of I talked to you about it earlier. Actually, last week I was making a sheath for it and that didn't turn out well. So I am not a leather leather worker. So I got really frustrated with that sheath. So I'm still figuring out what I'm going do for that. But other than that, I have all the knives done, just that one for the sheath. And like I said, now I'm getting antsy and
00:14:23
Bald Man
trying to figure everything else out, any other little extras that I can do.
00:14:29
Denis Tyrell
You got a week. I'm surprised you're not banging away three more knives or something.
00:14:34
Bald Man
Yeah, i I just decided to kind of... First of all, this is the first year that I haven't had two jobs um and haven't had to really hustle through that. This is also the... So the last two years um for... ah May is always a busy month for us. So I usually try to... The last couple years, i've I've tried to wrap up everything before May ah so that I can spend time... you know my My son's birthday is in the beginning of May.
00:15:06
Bald Man
Our anniversary is in May. My wife's birthday, again, was just this last week. so And then Mother's Day is thrown in there. So I try to... actually be present with family during that. And so that's been a struggle. But the previous two years, both of my kids also graduated high school in May.
00:15:25
Bald Man
So we had a lot going on.
00:15:27
Denis Tyrell
busy
00:15:28
Bald Man
So this year is the first year that has been slower from the fact of not having multiple jobs and also not having a graduation and family coming into town and all that stuff to deal with. So, yeah, it's been a little more relaxing this year.
00:15:45
Denis Tyrell
yeah well i i was trying to get a jump on things um because it's my anniversary this weekend um So we're going away, not, we're only going away Sunday, Monday.
00:15:57
Denis Tyrell
um But I didn't want to, you know, I didn't want to be down to the wire, you know, so why I'm happy where I'm at.
00:16:03
Bald Man
Yeah.
00:16:08
Denis Tyrell
I, you know, I've, I've procrastinated and I've got sharpening to do on like, I feel like a dozen knives, but other than that, everything's and the, the folder that, that I'm doing, but,
00:16:17
Bald Man
Yeah.
00:16:22
Bald Man
Yeah. Make sure you get those knives sharpened. I forgot to sharpen a couple of knives one year and I got
00:16:27
Denis Tyrell
Oh, really?
00:16:28
Bald Man
Oh yeah. I forgot to sharpen a couple knives. Luckily i had brought, uh, actually one of my buddies, John, that comes with me, he, he brought his sharpener with him. Um, and so we were sitting in the hotel room and sharpening knives on, um one of the evenings while we were just hanging out.
00:16:47
Denis Tyrell
You just take take it over to the one of the sharpening booths at the show.
00:16:51
Bald Man
Yeah, I shouldn't have done that. Yeah. They probably would have laughed at me.
00:16:54
Denis Tyrell
Have them do it. Yeah.
00:16:56
Bald Man
Yeah. That's, that's what you're doing. Going run some over?
00:17:01
Denis Tyrell
maybe no i'll finish uh before i go but you mentioned sheets um i have a video on sheets coming it was supposed to be last saturday but i don't know it got busy so it'll be this saturday when that video will be on doing sheets with um inlays and gotta say i've always thought my sheets were a little you know i wouldn't say novice but
00:17:06
Bald Man
Yeah.
Sales Strategies and Pre-Selling Knives
00:17:30
Denis Tyrell
not up to the par of maybe the knives. This year, I'm very happy with the sheaths. And all my sheaths have inlay.
00:17:36
Bald Man
Good.
00:17:39
Denis Tyrell
um I did them all with inlay, which I kind of think... is almost like a cheat code because once you do the sheath with an inlay, then you don't have to worry about the stamping and all that other bullshit.
00:17:52
Denis Tyrell
Like, I don't really love stamping sheaths, but slapping on some Cayman skin or some, I really love that ostrich skin that I got at Texas, which was super cheap and it looks amazing.
00:17:53
Bald Man
okay yeah
00:18:05
Denis Tyrell
It was like 15 bucks for one that's like, whatever it was, 16 inches long. Um,
00:18:11
Bald Man
Wow.
00:18:12
Denis Tyrell
and uh so i did a couple with that i'm really happy with how the sheaths turned out um
00:18:18
Bald Man
Yeah, no, that's a good, that does sound like kind of a cheat code for adding texture and depth without having to spend a bunch of tooling time.
00:18:26
Denis Tyrell
Yeah, it was, I thought it was so many, I mean, I don't have a sewing machine, so it's twice as much sewing, which I don't mind. It's like the sewing is a little therapeutic to me.
00:18:37
Denis Tyrell
um But, you know, what does it take me? An hour total to do all of the stitching on these sheaths with um with the inlay.
00:18:45
Bald Man
yeah
00:18:48
Denis Tyrell
um But it turns out, I showed you one. I thought it they turned out pretty nice.
00:18:51
Bald Man
oh yeah yeah that was you showed me that one and then i immediately threw mine in the trash thanks
00:19:01
Denis Tyrell
uh uh but i was happy how those came out so um yeah this and and this year i mentioned the last show um this year's the first year i've ever done a pre-sale before the show and um which i released to my patreon members only
00:19:18
Bald Man
Oh, okay.
00:19:22
Denis Tyrell
and uh that went really well um sold two of the highest end knives two of the lowest end knives and then one in the middle which was great um so it's nice to go into the show with a quarter of what i was going to bring already sold um and uh
00:19:26
Bald Man
Good.
00:19:40
Bald Man
Yeah. so are those pre-sales or those they're picking them up at blade show or
00:19:48
Denis Tyrell
I'm still bringing them to the show for display, but they're, they're sold like they will, and they know that they were, they will ship after the show.
00:19:48
Bald Man
You're going
00:19:51
Bald Man
to. OK.
00:19:54
Bald Man
All right, great.
00:19:58
Bald Man
Oh, good.
00:19:58
Denis Tyrell
And the nice thing is two of them, two of them have Kydex sheets, which I haven't made yet. So I'm not going to do it yet until I get home. Um, so in fact, the two low end ones, I'm not even going to bring, but the other high end ones for, uh,
00:20:11
Bald Man
Yeah. Yeah, I think ah having been to Blade Show before I was making knives as a collector, there's the hype around um getting Blade Show exclusives, which is a real thing, and it happens.
00:20:25
Denis Tyrell
Thank you.
00:20:28
Bald Man
Yeah. And it's still there even today for me, for, you know, some of those, some of the makers that it's hard, you can't get their stuff or you're on a two or three year waiting list.
00:20:39
Bald Man
It's great. um I found for smaller makers when you're, you're I just found that I would, I started making stuff the first couple of years I would make and I would hold back certain things and they would always sell at blade show. But I,
00:20:56
Bald Man
I just got to where I was like, you know what? I have so many people that follow me, whether they're email subscribers, so many good customers that ah don't go to Blade Show.
00:21:02
Denis Tyrell
Thank you.
00:21:05
Bald Man
So I just started selling everything. You know, as I make it, it goes on the website. And if it gets snatched up before Blade Show, then great. i'll I'll take it.
00:21:16
Denis Tyrell
Yeah. Yeah.
00:21:17
Bald Man
A sale is a sale.
00:21:18
Denis Tyrell
Everywhere all the time.
00:21:20
Bald Man
Yep.
00:21:21
Denis Tyrell
Yeah.
00:21:21
Bald Man
A sale is a sale.
00:21:21
Denis Tyrell
I'm I, and I used to keep everything. Oh, like this is for like the, shoot like to, for the show. Um, and then last year, especially I came home with almost everything.
00:21:27
Bald Man
Yeah.
00:21:32
Denis Tyrell
Um, and then sold them to some of my, my usual buyers, three days after the show. and I'm like, this year, and I'm like, I'm just going to do that first so that everything I make at the show is just kind of, you know, bonus money kind of thing.
00:21:50
Denis Tyrell
But I tell you, i' look I'm looking forward to seeing all of our friends and
00:21:51
Bald Man
Yeah. Well, that's good, man.
Networking and Industry Connections
00:21:57
Denis Tyrell
acquaintances there.
00:21:57
Denis Tyrell
i know Lawrence from Maritime Knife Supply is going to be there. Looking forward to seeing the my doppelganger at the show.
00:22:03
Bald Man
Brian.
00:22:06
Denis Tyrell
and hang with him. if you guys need anything knife related, go check out maritime knife supply. They got everything. I can't even list it all. They got, they got abrasives. They got handle material. They got steel. It's you name it.
00:22:22
Denis Tyrell
He's got it. If he doesn't have it, go ask him and he'll get uh,
00:22:23
Bald Man
It's endless.
00:22:28
Bald Man
Yeah, go on the website, get stuff from him, and if you're at Blade Show, find him, and he will always have candy and swag, and you got to hit Lawrence up.
00:22:34
Denis Tyrell
That's true. Yes. Yeah.
00:22:37
Bald Man
He's always got a backpack full of goodies.
00:22:40
Denis Tyrell
That's true. He does. i I think I burned a hole through, one of my last black maritime knife supply shirts. So Lawrence, I hope you're bringing some, uh,
00:22:53
Bald Man
Lawrence, I hope you're bringing some of the instant coffee and espresso are cappuccino mixes. Those are great.
00:23:00
Denis Tyrell
Oh yes. Oh yeah.
00:23:02
Bald Man
He brought those at Maker Camp one year, and I was into those.
00:23:04
Denis Tyrell
Right. out her I remember having those.
00:23:06
Bald Man
Yeah.
00:23:08
Denis Tyrell
Those were pretty good.
00:23:09
Bald Man
So, Lawrence, if you're listening.
00:23:13
Denis Tyrell
You've got requests. Uh, also we're going to get to see, uh, our buddy Frank Machado and his, uh, amazing wife Nita from, uh, two bastards. Uh, if you guys are looking for a hammer, go talk to Frank.
00:23:28
Denis Tyrell
Uh, he will be the dapper dress guy walking around. stop them, say hi and, uh, tell them you heard all about it on the triple T podcast.
00:23:38
Denis Tyrell
And i get yourself one of those fat peens, the cross, the straight, the diagonal, the crisscross, you name it. They got it all. So go check them out at Two Bastards Texas Smithian Supplies for all of your ah hammer needs.
00:23:55
Denis Tyrell
So that's right.
00:23:55
Bald Man
And get a fat peen out of the kilt.
00:23:58
Denis Tyrell
i want to It's kind of hit and miss whether he wears the kilt. Sometimes he does, sometimes he doesn't. And I tell people, oh, look for the guy in the kilt, and then he doesn't wear it.
Pre-Show Marketing via Social Media
00:24:08
Bald Man
oh
00:24:10
Denis Tyrell
man. So, uh, yeah, I got sharpening. Oh, one thing, the other thing I did this year was, man, I was on top of things. I had all my knives laid out on the table and I thought I got them all out. I should take each one and do a little video of each one and then schedule IG reels or posts every day before the show.
00:24:35
Denis Tyrell
So I feel like, wow, yeah, I'm like on the ball.
00:24:35
Bald Man
Wow.
00:24:39
Denis Tyrell
So, uh,
00:24:39
Bald Man
Oh my goodness.
00:24:40
Denis Tyrell
Yeah, I got every day until Blade Show, I've got one or multiple um posts scheduled that now I don't have to think about and remember to do. So, you get yeah.
00:24:51
Bald Man
Man, that's some great thinking. I'll have to do that with all my free time this coming week.
00:24:59
Denis Tyrell
You're free. you No, you won't have free time. Give me a break. You'll figure out some way to fill it.
00:25:02
Bald Man
I got Yeah, I'm going to create a bunch of content because I got one sheath to make and I'll probably throw that one away too.
00:25:06
Denis Tyrell
do it.
00:25:11
Denis Tyrell
No, you won't. Watch my video on the weekend. Might be too late, though.
00:25:17
Denis Tyrell
ah You're leaving what? Wednesday or Thursday? No, Wednesday, right?
00:25:21
Bald Man
yeah yeah, I'll be heading up Wednesday and we're going to stop a couple hours away and ah away from the venue and Hang out for the night and then head up there Thursday mid-morning probably. We'll get there.
00:25:38
Denis Tyrell
yeah uh our flight leaves here at 9 20 p.m and we with the time change when we get to atlanta it will be 5 a.m m i'm not happy about this
00:25:39
Bald Man
Get all set up.
00:25:49
Bald Man
Oof.
00:25:51
Bald Man
Yeah, that's going to be rough.
00:25:53
Denis Tyrell
yeah uh no he no he won't i haven't told i haven't told him and i'm gonna make him hear it now um i haven't told him yet but i upgraded my seat
00:25:53
Bald Man
Jared's definitely going to be sleeping on you.
00:25:58
Bald Man
Ha, ha, ha.
00:26:06
Bald Man
oh Oh, but you didn't upgrade his? Where
00:26:11
Denis Tyrell
Well, he bought his own fucking seat. We usually never sit together anyway because by the time he books, we're usually like a row apart. But this time, you know what row I'm in? i am in seat 1A.
00:26:20
Bald Man
are you at?
00:26:23
Bald Man
Oh, my goodness.
00:26:25
Denis Tyrell
That's right. i got a I upgraded first class with a nice reclining chair because i want to sleep. I don't want to be dead when we get there. So I was going to sit at the airport and they'd be calling the seats and I'd be like, oh,
00:26:33
Bald Man
Oh, man.
00:26:40
Denis Tyrell
It's time to board. He'd be like, oh, they're boarding first class, dumbass. I'm like, see you later, motherfucker.
00:26:44
Bald Man
ah
00:26:47
Bald Man
Oh, that's going to be great. So you're going to be well-rested and he's going to be all cramped.
00:26:51
Denis Tyrell
Well, yeah, he's back in steerage like like with 32 or something ridiculous.
00:26:59
Bald Man
They put him in the bathroom.
00:27:01
Denis Tyrell
Yeah, see, he's the wiper.
00:27:04
Bald Man
don't know.
00:27:07
Denis Tyrell
i i I usually cannot sleep on planes. Like I might get, you know, a 10 minute, you know, blink of a power nap, but I'm hoping with the extra wide seat and the might have a few beverages that um that I'll be able to be able to sleep.
00:27:17
Bald Man
Yeah.
00:27:26
Denis Tyrell
Plus it's only going to be 920. So really it's only 2am our time when we land. um
00:27:33
Bald Man
Yeah.
00:27:34
Denis Tyrell
That's what I'm worried about.
00:27:37
Bald Man
Yeah. But those red eyes, like when I flew back from being out there with you guys, yeah, I i passed out on that red eye coming back. I probably snored like crazy and annoyed people, but whatever.
00:27:50
Denis Tyrell
yeah i'll be wearing the the noise canceling headphones and all that crap so i can try to go to sleep but uh
00:27:54
Bald Man
Well,
00:27:58
Denis Tyrell
to
00:27:59
Bald Man
that's good.
00:28:00
Denis Tyrell
Yeah. I've also been getting the house together because, of course, Toby and his son, Leland, I think his name's Leland, are coming back. So, and we're going to make some folders. We're going to have some fun. we're going to do some California stuff.
00:28:18
Denis Tyrell
Um, so, uh, you know I was just prepping stuff for the course to make sure that, you know, we're a little more organized and we can definitely do it in two days.
00:28:29
Denis Tyrell
Um, cause, yeah, I don't want it. I don't want those guys stuck in the shop for four days or something ridiculous like that.
00:28:35
Bald Man
Right. Well, that'll be good having Toby over with his son.
00:28:37
Denis Tyrell
So I like, yeah, yeah.
00:28:40
Bald Man
That'll be, I'm sure that'll be a blast. Do you have any other plans other than making knives with them?
00:28:42
Denis Tyrell
Uh,
00:28:46
Denis Tyrell
Um, we are, um Jared's actually in North Carolina for the first couple of days. So that's when we'll probably do at least one. I think the Monday we're just gonna take it like we get home Sunday night late.
00:29:01
Denis Tyrell
I think Monday we're just gonna take it easy, lie by the pool, have some drinks, make, make some barbecue, that kind of stuff.
00:29:01
Bald Man
Yeah.
00:29:08
Bald Man
Yeah.
00:29:09
Denis Tyrell
Maybe we'll go in the shop in the afternoon for a couple hours just to kind of get them going.
00:29:09
Bald Man
Yeah. Yeah.
00:29:15
Denis Tyrell
But then I think Tuesday, the full day, we're going to spend in the shop. And then Wednesday is when I think Jared flies home. I don't know if he's going to. He might stop by for dinner or something like that.
00:29:30
Denis Tyrell
And um yeah, so I don't know what we're going to do Wednesday, Thursday, because that's Thursday. Jared's around. So I'm not sure if we're going to have a shop day or what we're going to do.
00:29:42
Denis Tyrell
Friday, we're actually going to Alcatraz.
00:29:42
Bald Man
Yeah. Oh, that'll be cool.
00:29:46
Denis Tyrell
Yeah, actually pre-booked the Alcatraz tickets. So um did that. I want to take um Toby and Leland out on the jet skis if I ever actually get them back out of the shop for the fucking fourth time. um
00:30:04
Bald Man
So that debacle's still going on.
00:30:04
Denis Tyrell
So, yeah. ah well I don't remember what I said on the air last time, but... Cause like I was telling the whole time, like, it's really odd. Yeah. You're a car guy. It's really odd that the engine is dying.
00:30:20
Denis Tyrell
Like, like cylinders, like the pistons are fusing in the cylinders. Like to me, that's like lack of oil.
00:30:27
Bald Man
no Oh, yeah.
00:30:30
Denis Tyrell
And I, so and I said this to them, like, like you fixed it twice and it's happened where you put a whole new engine in. It happened.
00:30:41
Denis Tyrell
Then you redid the cylinders, like reboard the cylinders, put new pistons and all that stuff in. It happened again. and I'm like, maybe you guys should check the oil delivery system.
00:30:54
Denis Tyrell
um
00:30:54
Bald Man
Oh, yeah.
00:30:55
Denis Tyrell
So, yeah, now they checked it and they think it's the oil pump. And I'm like, pretty sure. I'm not a car guy, but I'm pretty sure I said that like two episodes ago. Well,
00:31:05
Bald Man
Yeah, that's a, that's, I mean, you should check oil pressure right away.
00:31:10
Denis Tyrell
well the
00:31:10
Bald Man
soon as you, as soon as you rebuild an engine, that's the one thing. Does it have oil pressure?
00:31:15
Denis Tyrell
They said they checked they check the oil pressure, but I don't know if the pump's kicking out intermittently.
00:31:21
Denis Tyrell
It sounds like what's happening. and Because then they said, oh, there's they found air in the lines, but they bled they know they bled the lines before, and they took it out and tested it.
00:31:22
Bald Man
Hmm.
00:31:31
Bald Man
Hmm.
00:31:33
Denis Tyrell
So I think it's some intermittent oil pump problem. So anyway, they're replacing the oil pump.
00:31:38
Bald Man
Interesting.
00:31:40
Denis Tyrell
Free of charge.
00:31:41
Bald Man
All right.
00:31:41
Denis Tyrell
Because they've messed it up this many times. I mean, there um they're competent guys. I think this is just bad luck.
00:31:49
Bald Man
Yeah.
00:31:50
Denis Tyrell
They're they're taking a bath on this for sure.
00:31:52
Bald Man
and
00:31:53
Denis Tyrell
Like, there this is definitely costing them money.
00:31:53
Bald Man
Yeah.
00:31:56
Denis Tyrell
Cost me a shit ton of money. So I would like these to have them done when... So I'm going hit them up tomorrow and see if I can nudge them along. So...
00:32:08
Bald Man
Yeah, hopefully that gets squared away before Toby shows up and then gets a wave runner time.
00:32:14
Denis Tyrell
yeah i think that would be fun to uh take him out on the delta uh that's a definitely a california experience to go jet skiing on the delta but yeah but
00:32:24
Bald Man
Yeah.
00:32:27
Bald Man
Well, sounds like it'll be a busy time. Blade show leading up and afterwards.
00:32:32
Denis Tyrell
yeah it will be it will be busy i mean it it will and it won't because it's just kind of i'll be making a folder along with them but it's like that we' we'll probably have
00:32:41
Bald Man
Yeah.
00:32:44
Denis Tyrell
like two days in the shop and then whatever else they want to do. Maybe I'll take them shooting. Maybe we'll, you know, I don't know what we'll do. Shooting is probably on the list. I think, uh, we'll, uh, there's a gun range, like, like two miles from my house. So that's, uh, that's high on the list. I think,
00:33:04
Bald Man
Yeah. Last time Toby came to Florida, I think he went shooting, right?
00:33:09
Denis Tyrell
uh, I think he did. Yeah. Yeah.
00:33:10
Bald Man
Yeah.
00:33:12
Denis Tyrell
so uh i think i mentioned it to him and he sounded interested to go to go shooting so we'll uh take him to go uh go trap shooting yeah um
00:33:12
Bald Man
Still have to get all that in. Nice.
00:33:25
Bald Man
Well, what else you got cooking this week?
00:33:28
Denis Tyrell
That's about it. I mean, you know, it's got a lot cooking the boys over at Baker Forge.
Materials and Innovations in Knife-Making
00:33:36
Denis Tyrell
Uh, they always got stuff cooking. Um, if you guys need some quality steel for those knives you're working on, ah go check out Baker Forge. Uh, they, I, uh, I'm doing it from memory. It's, uh, one of the ripple. Okay. I'm not going to do it from memory. One of the Ripple ones was the pattern this week. By the time you guys hear this, it'll be Wednesday, so I'm sure it's gone. But if it isn't, go check it out. It is one of my favorite patterns that they do.
00:34:04
Denis Tyrell
One of the kind of old classics. I think one of their more popular patterns as well. So go check it out. Use the discount code TTT10. If you use the app, you'll get early access to it.
00:34:17
Denis Tyrell
Um, and then while you're there, go get some gator piss and all the varieties, uh, some grime reaper to clean those knives and then some gator skin, to protect your knives, which I think I'm going to have to pick up more of that from Koi when I'm, when I'm there.
00:34:32
Denis Tyrell
But, uh, yeah, go check out the boys at Baker Forge. They got a double booth this year. I saw, um, with, with,
00:34:39
Bald Man
All right. So they're going to be able to bring some more stuff.
00:34:42
Denis Tyrell
Yes. Yeah, I think they would have brought more stuff had they had a bigger booth last time. But yeah, they're going, at least on the map, it looks like a double booth this year.
00:34:53
Bald Man
Yeah, i will it's been a while since I had looked on their website, and just this week I was looking on their website to see what they had in stock. and Again, going back to like, am I going to bring something else to Blade Show? um Over the weekend, I was going over their website thinking about ordering a bar of steel, getting it here you know overnighted just to knock out a couple. and They have some really cool patterns that they didn't have the last time I looked on there, and Um, you know they have their, um, what's their, um their low layer stuff that they've been doing.
00:35:28
Denis Tyrell
know Yeah.
00:35:30
Bald Man
Um, I forget what they call that, but, uh, they have those, but man, they've got some, like some of the high layer patterns, um, that I hadn't seen before and just killer, killer steel, killer billets over there.
00:35:30
Denis Tyrell
I don't know what it's called.
00:35:43
Bald Man
So, uh, I was super tempted to pull the trigger, but I knew I wouldn't be able to see it before blade show see those knives actually get done so i will definitely be picking some up at blade show
00:35:55
Denis Tyrell
Yeah, I actually did ah one of the folders I did, which i I, that was a whole debacle when I messed up that kumai because I'm an idiot. um You heard that when I was like, oh, I'll just straighten it with a hammer.
00:36:10
Denis Tyrell
Duh. it Cracked the whole thing right down the the the seam. um But one of the replacements, I just went into the drawer and pulled out a piece of Damascus that was like,
00:36:22
Denis Tyrell
It said 60 layer on it and, but they're totally straight layers and made a folder blade out of it. And actually I think it came out really cool, but it's low layer, but yeah, I thought it was interesting.
00:36:36
Denis Tyrell
You'll see it at the show, but, um, you know haven't done a low layer like that.
00:36:38
Bald Man
Yeah, cool. Some of the low layers look really good when they're just those really fat, bold lines that really separate. I like those.
00:36:47
Denis Tyrell
Yeah. Yeah, I agree. But, um, Yeah, I'm looking forward to the show, to see all my friends. um Yeah, it it'll it'll be a good time.
00:37:03
Denis Tyrell
um What was I going to say? oh I had a note here i'm going to I'm going to make fun of my wife here, see if she listens.
00:37:15
Bald Man
Oh, no.
00:37:15
Denis Tyrell
Would she... She's I you guys have universal universal studios there, but I think you guys have different rides than the one in California.
00:37:24
Bald Man
Probably.
00:37:24
Denis Tyrell
But the one here has got a new mummy ride. And I took my boys before Parker, um you know, when he was enlisting, we went on a little vacation for a weekend, you know, as a, you know, me and the boys before he got shipped off kind of thing. And we went to Universal Studios and we went on this ride.
00:37:45
Denis Tyrell
and I remember it being a decent ride, but I don't remember much of it. And she asked me, is it scary? I'm like, I don't remember it that much. It couldn't have been that scary. She sends me a text right after the ride and said, oh my God, that's the scariest ride ever.
00:38:01
Denis Tyrell
And she said, you know, the pictures, you know, when they take the picture,
00:38:04
Bald Man
Yeah, yeah.
00:38:05
Denis Tyrell
I should put this in there. I'll get Jared to put it in the show. She'll kill me. um The look on her face is the funniest picture ever.
00:38:16
Bald Man
She was terrified.
00:38:18
Denis Tyrell
Terrified. And, you know, grown woman terrified of the mummy ride at Universal Studios.
00:38:20
Bald Man
ah
00:38:26
Bald Man
oh my goodness. Yeah, going to have to put that up.
00:38:29
Denis Tyrell
She'll kill me.
00:38:31
Bald Man
She will kill you. Yeah.
00:38:34
Bald Man
She will kill you, but it'll be great.
00:38:34
Denis Tyrell
uh yeah it'll be great for the 10 seconds that i'm alive after she sees it well she's not on instagram so oh no but jared always shares it to facebook too
00:38:42
Bald Man
At least we'll all appreciate it. it'll
00:38:48
Bald Man
Yeah, that could get you in trouble, but it could be worth it.
00:38:51
Denis Tyrell
yeah could be could be
00:38:53
Bald Man
I vote you post it.
00:38:58
Denis Tyrell
If you guys want to see it, come, come and I'll show it to anyone, but I don't think going to put it on the internet because I want to see my anniversary this weekend.
00:39:08
Bald Man
but
00:39:10
Denis Tyrell
My seventh anniversary. Believe that? Can't believe it.
00:39:13
Bald Man
All right, congratulations.
00:39:15
Denis Tyrell
I know it doesn't sound much for, for everyone, but seven years it's flown by.
00:39:18
Bald Man
No, listen, that's great.
00:39:21
Denis Tyrell
Still newlyweds.
00:39:23
Bald Man
Yeah, nothing but fun, the two of you.
00:39:24
Denis Tyrell
What got, what, you what, uh, anniversary did you guys just have?
00:39:28
Bald Man
It was 22.
00:39:31
Denis Tyrell
20 she put up for you that long
00:39:33
Bald Man
It's amazing, right? I I'm blown away, but Hey, I'll take it,
00:39:40
Denis Tyrell
yeah um what are you looking forward to the most but blade show
00:39:46
Bald Man
man. I love blade show. I love going. um I love just, I love being able to just meet people, uh, see the same people say, you know, people we see every year, uh, friends that you get to catch up with. Um,
00:40:00
Bald Man
you know going it's going to be good i'm sure we're going to go to neil's place uh thursday night spend some time there hang out that's always a good time and you know the pit most other nights just hanging out in the pit um you know that's that's always a good experience hanging out um yeah and then I really do enjoy talking to whether they're customers or just people there hanging out at
00:40:06
Denis Tyrell
Yep. yep
Social and Networking Opportunities at Blade Show
00:40:30
Bald Man
blade show that come by the the booth.
00:40:32
Bald Man
I get a kick out of it. I have a lot of fun. Just I, one of the things we have always done is just to ask people what they came there for and if it's their first year and all that good stuff and just get to know them and hear what knives they're into and whether it's folders or fixed blades and or swords or battle songs.
00:40:54
Bald Man
And I always like to see, you know, I remember, I'll never forget the first couple of years going to blade show as a collector, you always have in mind what you're going there for.
00:40:55
Denis Tyrell
Thank you.
00:41:07
Bald Man
And you want to see certain things. you know that's why we started going, me and my friends. We started going because there were no big knife stores down here that we could go and actually, you know, get our hands on the knives.
00:41:20
Bald Man
So we went to Blade Show specifically for that. We were like, hey, this is the one place that if there's a knife you've seen that you're on the fence, you know, i don't want to spend, you know, four or five, six hundred dollars on something that I might not like.
00:41:35
Bald Man
I can actually hold it. I can check out the if it's a folder, the action, see how it feels in hand, see how the blades ground like all that stuff. um And so I always like to ask people like, what would you do? Did you come here looking for something? And if they did, okay, did you did you find it? Yeah. Did you buy it?
00:41:56
Bald Man
Yeah, I bought it. Well, then why are you not showing it to us? So we always have people just pull knives out and show us the knives that they were super excited to find and get. And that's cool to me to see people light up. And last year, I specifically remember there was a a grandfather, a son, and a grandson. And the grandfather had been coming to Blade Show since I think the beginning, like the first year or two that it was there.
00:42:24
Bald Man
um And so it was like a, you know, guy's trip that they did and it was the grandson's first year coming. And so it was just really cool.
00:42:33
Denis Tyrell
That's awesome.
00:42:34
Bald Man
You know, you get to see that it's, it's, it's bigger than just a bunch of sweaty, smelly guys, you know, Googling over knives. And it's actually, you know, what what we came for, which is kind of checking out knives, but also meeting people. And um i also, the first couple of years we came, we would stand in line waiting to get into the show.
00:42:58
Bald Man
And in those lines, specifically the first year, there were two guys standing in front of us. And, you know, we were standing in line for like three hours waiting to get in.
00:43:10
Bald Man
And we still talk to these guys that we met in line at Blade Show the first year. And in that three hours, you know, yeah we talked about everything from, you know, family to work and play and all that. And so we got to know them. And so we get to see them when we go there last year.
00:43:32
Bald Man
Saw one of the guys because he would come and he just, he literally was like, yep, I got family stuff going on. i think he lived in, he lives in either Tennessee or Kentucky now.
00:43:44
Bald Man
And he said, i drove down. i just wanted to spend an hour or two, make the rounds and see everybody. And I'm going back home because I've got some family stuff going on.
00:43:55
Bald Man
So yeah.
00:43:55
Denis Tyrell
Jesus, that's a far drive for that.
00:43:58
Bald Man
Yeah, so things like that, it's super cool that those bonds are still there. So I really enjoy Blade Show for that. Just meeting people, seeing what their experience is, and meeting you know catching up with people that we've met in the past. that It's just that's a blast for me.
00:44:15
Denis Tyrell
Yeah, I totally agree. I mean, I've got viewers and fans and stuff that like to come by, which is awesome.
00:44:21
Bald Man
Yeah.
00:44:21
Denis Tyrell
It's always great to meet people that, um, you know, let's say, you know, they watch videos and yeah, that's always cool to, uh, to meet people and, uh, and just obviously that's where I get to see all my friends every year.
00:44:29
Bald Man
Yeah.
00:44:36
Denis Tyrell
Um, so that's always fun.
00:44:37
Bald Man
Yeah.
00:44:38
Denis Tyrell
and I love the pit and I love hanging out, um,
00:44:41
Bald Man
Yep.
00:44:43
Denis Tyrell
Almost as much as the show. um
00:44:45
Bald Man
Yeah.
00:44:46
Denis Tyrell
the The pit's always fun to see. you know Sometimes there's people you didn't know were going to attend that are going to attend and you know that's going to be fun. Probably do a little hanging out at Donnie's table outside this year.
00:45:00
Bald Man
Yeah.
00:45:01
Denis Tyrell
Brought him a
00:45:02
Bald Man
yeah And it's always good because you go there and you wind up having conversations with people that you normally wouldn't um because maybe the people you would normally talk with are talking with somebody else and you wind up just striking up a conversation with someone totally different. and And that's great. So I love everything about it from you know the selling knives to finding new knives to collect and meeting new people and seeing the you know old friends. It's all great.
00:45:33
Denis Tyrell
Yeah, last year was actually the first year. i don't i don't know. I just never went. I'm not a smoker. i i just never went outside, like during like the pit, right?
00:45:44
Denis Tyrell
Always hung out inside by the bar, like in that little area.
00:45:47
Bald Man
Yeah, yeah.
00:45:48
Denis Tyrell
Last year was the first time i actually went outside because I think I was looking for Jared or somebody. And Jared was out there and Toby was out there and everyone was out there Donnie's table. And I'm like, oh, it's nice and cool out here at the...
00:46:01
Bald Man
Yeah.
00:46:03
Denis Tyrell
Yeah, that was kind of cool. I might spend a little more time outside this year. We'll see.
00:46:08
Bald Man
It's a whole, whole different crew out there.
00:46:10
Denis Tyrell
Right. Yeah, it is. um Yeah, the the South Africans are always out there. Trollsky's always out there. Those guys are always half in the bag ah smoking smoking outside. So, yeah, I have to have a chat with those guys.
00:46:29
Denis Tyrell
But um who else we going to see? Oh, Travis from Pelican Paste. He's definitely going to be at the show. I know he's printing up some challenge coins. You can get those at at his table. I think he's over in the baller room, if I'm not mistaken.
00:46:46
Denis Tyrell
um Go check him out if you need hard wax, soft wax, Pelican oil, hand salve, soap, the butternut, cast iron and seasoning for pans.
00:46:58
Denis Tyrell
ah Go check him out. hey um He's going to honor the, I'm pretty sure he's honoring the the Triple T 10 for 10% off. And if you want to see a glimpse of what he's got, go to pelicanpace.com.
00:47:12
Denis Tyrell
So go check him out. Also going to be at the show, Matt from Griptech. He'll have all those great... ah Flavors of Grip X there. i don't have the color this yeah this week, but um he'll have every color under of the sun, I'm sure, plus all the limitless ones, plus the 3D printed ones.
00:47:37
Denis Tyrell
He'll have a whole ton of stuff at the show, so go check those out. Again, use the discount code TTT10. Get yourself some money back in your pocket. um I love that stuff.
00:47:47
Bald Man
Yeah, no, over the weekend, yeah, over the weekend he was running a sale on the Old Glory, my favorite one he's got. It's the white with red and blue grip, the rubber specs in it.
00:48:01
Bald Man
He was running a sale for Memorial Day for that.
00:48:01
Denis Tyrell
Oh, okay. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. here I've actually made combo scales of red, white, and blue, either a combination of grip tech or, uh, carbon fiber, colored carbon fiber to make red, white, and blue. It was all like, and I don't do them that often being a Canadian. I prefer the red and white ones, but, um, but that one, uh, when I made that batch, that one sold first. So maybe I should make them more often.
00:48:28
Bald Man
Yeah, maybe you can get them to make some white with red specks and we'll call it like Canadian bacon.
00:48:34
Denis Tyrell
Canadian bacon, come on. well We'll have a better a better name than that. Speaking of Canada, um ah Toby wanted to take his son to a baseball game.
00:48:47
Denis Tyrell
So he's, and actually I had to buy the tickets for him because he you had to have an American um credit card or something. um
00:48:54
Bald Man
Interesting.
00:48:56
Denis Tyrell
But the Braves are playing the Blue Jays. So that's my hometown. So I'm going to have to cheer for the Blue Jays, even though I hate baseball and I think it's terrible sport.
00:49:08
Denis Tyrell
I know Jared's like, blah, blah, blah.
00:49:12
Bald Man
You got root for the home team. That's right.
00:49:13
Denis Tyrell
Still got to root for the home team. So sorry, Toby, the Toronto Blue Jays are going to win this one.
00:49:23
Denis Tyrell
But hey, what
00:49:23
Bald Man
Good. So you know you might have a baseball game in in your future in Atlanta.
00:49:30
Denis Tyrell
ah Jared said he wanted to go to the Thursday night game, which I think is still the same. It's still the same series. So it's probably the Jays. And that's that'd be weird.
00:49:38
Bald Man
Yeah.
00:49:39
Denis Tyrell
They're playing two days in a row, though. I guess that happens, right? When they do a seven-game series, there's two games in the same.
00:49:46
Bald Man
don't I don't follow baseball.
00:49:48
Denis Tyrell
yeah, i'm no I'm totally not a baseball guy. um
00:49:51
Bald Man
Oh, Jared, we need you.
00:49:55
Denis Tyrell
No, cause then we'd have to hear golf.
00:49:55
Bald Man
sick. oh I'm sick, guys. i can't move. i don't know what I'm going to do.
00:50:03
Denis Tyrell
That's a pretty good imitation.
00:50:06
Denis Tyrell
You need a longer, scragglier beard, though.
00:50:09
Bald Man
Yeah, I definitely do. I trimmed all mine up. I was irritated.
00:50:13
Denis Tyrell
It's funny hearing him. I mean, you guys hear it on the show. I mean, you probably hear it all the time because you talk to Jared probably more than I do. But yeah, for everyone else, yeah yeah, Jared is moaning and bitching about his beard constantly now. It's bugging the shit out of him.
00:50:30
Denis Tyrell
So I think it'll be.
00:50:30
Bald Man
Yeah, he says he's going to be trimming it all up after Blade Show.
00:50:36
Denis Tyrell
I think we should do it at the pit. We should bring a little portable razor and do it at the pit.
00:50:43
Bald Man
i think I think that might cause a fight. I could see him not i could see him protesting.
00:50:49
Denis Tyrell
No, I want him to volunteer so we can shave him at the pit. I think that'd be funny.
00:50:56
Bald Man
Speaking of tremors, I just wish I could be in the hotel room with you guys again when your tremors just go off nonstop and Jared's trying to take a shower.
00:51:08
Denis Tyrell
Fucking asshole.
00:51:08
Bald Man
Because Texas was great. Texas was great. Dennis's tremors went off early in the morning and Jared couldn't turn them off.
00:51:18
Denis Tyrell
No, that's because he was in the bathroom messing around with something and he hit it and it turned on and and then he can't turn it off and then he comes over.
00:51:18
Bald Man
Yeah.
00:51:26
Bald Man
yeah
00:51:28
Denis Tyrell
I'm in dead sleep and he fucking throws it at me.
00:51:32
Bald Man
and he He was so violent.
00:51:38
Denis Tyrell
you fucked it up. one Why do I have to fix
00:51:40
Bald Man
oh that was comedy gold.
00:51:45
Denis Tyrell
it? Yeah, no.
00:51:45
Bald Man
And nobody nobody else was there to witness it but me, and it was great.
00:51:49
Denis Tyrell
And I didn't hear it because I had earplugs in.
00:51:52
Bald Man
Oh.
00:51:52
Denis Tyrell
and So it totally startled me when he like nudged me, shoved me more like.
00:51:58
Bald Man
He came out with way, like I was, i was halfway awake and i heard him coming. I heard him yelling about it and I heard him coming out, cursing up a storm and he came out with so much violence.
00:52:13
Bald Man
I was amazed. Yeah.
00:52:17
Denis Tyrell
Yeah, for someone who caused the problem, you think he would have been...
00:52:23
Denis Tyrell
No shame.
00:52:25
Bald Man
Oh, man. Yeah, so Jared's beard will be gone after Blade Show, apparently, or at least drastically thinner.
00:52:30
Denis Tyrell
Yeah.
00:52:33
Denis Tyrell
Yeah, let's hope.
00:52:36
Denis Tyrell
Shall we do some maker spotlights?
00:52:40
Bald Man
Yeah, let's go for it. You got some good stuff this week?
00:52:43
Denis Tyrell
Yeah, I got one that we did early, early on, um which an amazing maker. I have Kelly Vermeer Vela at kellyvermeervela.knives.
00:52:58
Denis Tyrell
Kelly's just an amazing maker. She's local to us in Oakdale. It's like 40 minutes away.
00:53:03
Bald Man
Oh, yeah.
00:53:05
Denis Tyrell
I've been to her shop several times. She's just great maker. Really nice. Yeah. I don't know for a fact, but I think she'll be going for her master next week because she was showing her, she was showing a quill and dagger to some folks in Texas. so I'm pretty sure she's um probably going for her master and, you know, well-deserved. I think she'll knock it out of the park. um So, yeah.
00:53:38
Denis Tyrell
my fingers crossed for Kelly to complete that journey and well, sorry, complete it to, to get that level. I don't think the journey is ever complete, but um yeah, I'd love to see her get that, that rating of master.
00:53:53
Denis Tyrell
Yeah.
00:53:54
Bald Man
Yeah, those are beautiful knives. I'm looking at them right now, looking at our page.
00:53:58
Denis Tyrell
Yeah. She just put one up, um which made me think of her. She just put one up um recently, which is one of her token Bowie knives with the Riptide Damascus.
00:54:11
Bald Man
The Riptide Fighter, yeah.
00:54:13
Denis Tyrell
Yeah.
00:54:14
Bald Man
Riptide Fighter.
00:54:15
Denis Tyrell
Yeah, that one's awesome. Just beautiful. What else is on there?
00:54:18
Bald Man
Yeah, and folders are crazy. Yeah, great knives.
00:54:21
Denis Tyrell
Yeah, beautiful. Just gorgeous.
00:54:25
Bald Man
Good suggestion.
00:54:26
Denis Tyrell
Yeah, yeah. she's She's a great maker. That's where I, it was her shop where I did my journeyman test.
00:54:32
Bald Man
Really?
00:54:33
Denis Tyrell
Yeah. Cause, uh, we both have the same master, um, that, uh, that we did our journeyman with, which was Michael Vagnino and he was visiting her shop.
00:54:44
Denis Tyrell
So we did it then, but yeah, I really dig her work.
00:54:46
Bald Man
Cool.
00:54:49
Denis Tyrell
Um, her style is yeah, really does it for me. I love it.
00:54:56
Bald Man
Yeah, cool.
00:54:58
Denis Tyrell
Uh, who do you got?
00:55:00
Bald Man
I have Osborne Knives. he i've been following him for a long time, probably pretty close to when I first started making knives. And I've always just loved his style. He makes some really clean EDC knives. He's got some EDC-sized Bowie. Yeah,
00:55:22
Denis Tyrell
Yeah, he's got a bit of everything on here.
00:55:23
Bald Man
yes Yeah, he's got a little bit of everything, and he just does really clean work. And the one thing, so I had seen a post a long time ago. if you have his page pulled up and you look at the hardware that he uses, they you know uses he like nut and bolts, bolts up handles.
00:55:34
Denis Tyrell
said
00:55:40
Denis Tyrell
Yeah, I was looking at that.
00:55:42
Bald Man
Okay, so he had, in a video ah a long time ago, he brought up his hardware. So there's... it it looks different than anybody else's hardware.
00:55:55
Bald Man
It's like a ah button head, um like Allen or Torx, but he said those little notches, he machines those in each one.
00:56:00
Denis Tyrell
Yeah.
00:56:06
Denis Tyrell
Really?
00:56:07
Bald Man
Yeah. Cause he said somebody, you know, the post I saw was, he goes, I get asked all the time where I get this hardware.
00:56:08
Denis Tyrell
so I... have
00:56:13
Bald Man
And he goes, I machine these in. That's what he does. So it's little details like that that are just super cool.
00:56:21
Denis Tyrell
Yeah, when I first looked at that, it's funny brought that up because it was one of the first things I noticed because I actually thought they look like pivot heads for folders because they really do look like pivot heads.
00:56:30
Bald Man
Mm-hmm. Right.
00:56:33
Denis Tyrell
But I see what you mean now.
00:56:33
Bald Man
Yeah, they look like specialty ahty fasteners for sure.
00:56:38
Denis Tyrell
Yeah, that's cool.
00:56:39
Bald Man
But yeah, so it's like a little three-point that he machines in there. Really, really classy stuff. So yeah, Osborne knives.
00:56:48
Denis Tyrell
Yeah. and And really, I mean, they're not, it's just the time. It's just like a little detail. I don't think it's like exceptionally hard to do.
00:56:53
Bald Man
Mm-hmm.
00:56:54
Denis Tyrell
He probably slots them into a little jig and drops an end mill down of that radius and, uh, or whatever, whatever he uses. And, uh, but yeah, it's a cool idea.
00:57:05
Denis Tyrell
Yeah. Um, yeah I remember when I was looking for a Gulf, so before I discovered Gulf, so bolts, I could not find hardware that, that I was happy with.
00:57:18
Denis Tyrell
Um, and yeah, could you use, you use some other hard, you use like, um, almost like, um, don't want to say a Chicago screw. I know it's not, but it's something like that.
00:57:30
Bald Man
um Yeah. Yeah, I use typically button head screws with threaded barrels. um I have started using some Golso bolts and some things. So um yeah, ah use a little bit of a few of different things. But yeah, either Golso bolts or primarily for a while I've been using those button heads. Early on I used a a taper head screw and I I moved over to those button heads because of the texturing that I grind into the handles.
00:58:03
Bald Man
um If you go too thin, the tapers just bottom out before they actually make contact. So the button heads were the the move for me.
00:58:13
Denis Tyrell
Hmm. Yeah. Um, and now that I have so much folder hardware, I'm, I'm more into the, the, the barrel, the threaded barrel.
00:58:25
Denis Tyrell
Um, that's, and plus you get more of a mechanical connection. Well, I guess you get the same thing with the gulso bolts, but I actually find that, um, the heads on the gulso bolts strip really easy.
00:58:39
Bald Man
Really?
00:58:39
Denis Tyrell
Yeah. Um, if, um, I, I make sure not to use, um, a drill or like a, you know, a screwdriver, electronic screwdriver on those things cause they strip really easy.
00:58:41
Bald Man
Hmm.
00:58:56
Denis Tyrell
And i actually keep a separate set just for fit up while I'm putting the knife together back and forth so that I don't mess up, especially the black ones. Cause you'll take the finish off the top.
00:59:08
Bald Man
Yeah, yeah you need ah you need a fresh bit for sure.
00:59:08
Denis Tyrell
Um,
00:59:11
Bald Man
Nothing that's rounded off. um Yeah, the Golsos are a little weird because they're not a tight Torx.
00:59:14
Denis Tyrell
Yeah.
00:59:19
Bald Man
When you get your Torx in there, it's got a little wiggle to it.
00:59:24
Denis Tyrell
Yeah, it's, well, they're specially machined and they're not, I don't know, they they're not, it's not a torque. I don't think it's actually a torx bit. It's some little flowery, you're right.
00:59:32
Bald Man
Hmm.
00:59:34
Denis Tyrell
there There's a little slop in it when you do it. And that's probably why.
00:59:37
Bald Man
Yeah.
00:59:39
Denis Tyrell
If you use the drill in and out, just the the spin on it seems to to kill them. or and Unless they're metric or something.
00:59:50
Denis Tyrell
i don't I don't know. I've tried the metric ones and didn't seem to work. But I haven't used them in a while. But i the last few I did, I've been moving more to the um sacrificial gulso, not, um sorry, Corby's.
01:00:09
Denis Tyrell
Cause then you get the, the pin look without, um, you know, with, without it being a pin.
01:00:10
Bald Man
Okay.
01:00:16
Denis Tyrell
Um, and then it doesn't have the screw head on it, but they're not removable. Right. Like, They're there for all all of time after that.
01:00:23
Bald Man
Yeah.
01:00:28
Denis Tyrell
But it's a nicer effect, especially you want the copper ones because you can do the copper Corbys.
01:00:28
Bald Man
Right, right.
01:00:37
Denis Tyrell
All right. what ah Hold on. Who else we got to talk about?
01:00:40
Bald Man
Good stuff.
01:00:42
Denis Tyrell
ah Our buddies at Even Heat will be at the
01:00:45
Bald Man
Talked about Jared being a pussy.
01:00:47
Denis Tyrell
uh yeah yeah we gotta talk about that uh we'll we will revisit that um our buddies yeah oh no we're gonna revisit it again don't worry um
01:00:53
Bald Man
ah we've We've talked about it a few times.
01:00:58
Denis Tyrell
Even Heat's going to be at the show. Their booth is at the back left, if you're facing the front. um Go say hi to the folks at Even Heat. They'll have a bunch of ovens for you guys to look at. I'm hoping they have one of the salt pots because I kind of want to look at one of those.
01:01:18
Denis Tyrell
I'm contemplating getting one of the salt systems for heat treating. uh that's on my on my list of things to add to the shop um but if you guys need a heat treating oven go check out the even heat uh it's an amazing machine i've got two jared's got two i know brent you got it you got one one two
01:01:42
Bald Man
Yeah, yeah.
01:01:44
Denis Tyrell
i couldn't remember if yours was an even even heat i'm not uh soaking you for only having one um
01:01:44
Bald Man
Well, just one.
01:01:50
Denis Tyrell
the
01:01:54
Denis Tyrell
ah jared's got a comment here well yeah but he doesn't use them um
01:01:55
Bald Man
I know I'm not special enough. Jared's got you know so many. He's probably got a third one on the way.
01:02:06
Bald Man
well, he's special.
01:02:07
Denis Tyrell
Jared's je's got a note here. He's going to get mad at me for saying this because I'm stealing his thunder. It's like even heat kilns and he's got a little byline here. It says the fluffer of the knife community.
01:02:22
Denis Tyrell
Think about it folks. You'll get it.
01:02:28
Denis Tyrell
Oh, Jared's good. I can see the steam coming out of Jared's ears right now for me stealing his mind.
01:02:33
Bald Man
oh We were Yeah, you ruined it
01:02:34
Denis Tyrell
That was Jared's line.
01:02:39
Denis Tyrell
ah Go check them out. um Family owned and operated since 1948, building the highest quality knife heat treating ovens available.
01:02:50
Denis Tyrell
Go check them out. um I made a mistake last week. The Ameribrate folks actually will not be at the show. um They're just super busy and can't tear themselves away from production to get make the show this year.
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01:03:07
Denis Tyrell
But you can always get, yeah, it is a bummer.
01:03:08
Bald Man
That's a bummer.
01:03:10
Denis Tyrell
But you can always get their stuff online at ameribraid.com. Use the discount code TTT10 to get 10% off accessories. TTT, without the 10, just TTT for a discount on machines.
01:03:24
Denis Tyrell
They got the Fastback 2x72 grinder.
01:03:26
Bald Man
Oh.
01:03:27
Denis Tyrell
That's the workhorse. um amazing machine um go check it out and they also have the hyperdisk which is that rotary tool extraordinaire that can be ah a a a buffer a disc grinder and all kinds of other really cool attachments any anything that rotates you can put it in there um and uh you know get some work done so uh i think that's we got one more um If you don't sell all your knives at the show, you can put them on the drop point, uh, which is a free newsletter goes out weekly every Thursday and it's free.
01:04:08
Denis Tyrell
We all like the magical word free. So, uh, go get your knives out there.
01:04:12
Bald Man
Mm-hmm.
01:04:14
Denis Tyrell
People. that subscribe to this are not just makers, they are buyers and collectors. So there's a lot of people that get this newsletter that look on what's on this newsletter.
01:04:27
Denis Tyrell
So put yourself up there and put your drops up there on the drop point. What do you got to lose? You got nothing to lose and everything to gain. So get your drops up on the drop point.
01:04:40
Denis Tyrell
And if you need bearings, um go check out the SCIF workshop. That's the mines behind the drop point. And go get some of the best bearings on the market. I just put in an order. And I don't know why I didn't order. I ordered like 10 sets. And don't know what I was thinking. I'm already short on bearings and I got to make another order. so That was dumb.
01:05:04
Denis Tyrell
i I wonder if they'll be at the show. i do not know if Skiff Workshop. If they're at the show, I'm definitely buying bearings. um I just don't.
01:05:12
Bald Man
I know Steve was walking around last year. I don't think they had a table or anything. I don't remember, but they were, he was definitely walking around.
01:05:20
Denis Tyrell
Oh, I don't even know what he looks like. So, um yeah, if I see him, I'm going to shake his hand and tell him I need barracks. um Yeah, go check out the draw point.
01:05:34
Denis Tyrell
um I wonder what the weather is going to be like next week in Atlanta. It's been, what's it by you? Has it been like crazy hot?
01:05:43
Bald Man
Yeah, it's been stupid hot.
01:05:46
Denis Tyrell
No. We're out
01:05:47
Bald Man
It's been stupid hot by me. So hopefully hopefully it's cool. Every once in a while it gets cool up there. So we'll see.
01:05:57
Denis Tyrell
I was warning Toby that it was going to be like hot here. We wouldn't be able to do any foraging and all week it's been like high of 70, you know, it's been in the sixties. I'm like, Oh, this is great spring weather.
01:06:13
Denis Tyrell
um But then again, if we want to go jet skiing and want to go in the pool, I'd rather not be 70 degrees. I'd rather be like 85, but um we'll see, I guess. But I would,
01:06:26
Bald Man
Yeah, I don't know what it's going to be like, but there's been quite a few years where it's been nice and cool up there. So we'll see.
01:06:33
Denis Tyrell
Yeah, I remember the one year that our hotel was like,
01:06:34
Bald Man
I'm hoping so.
01:06:39
Denis Tyrell
walking distance but far the one where we're like across the highway and uh uh yeah i was walked home once after the show and i was dead after parker was complaining so uh still up in the air if parker's gonna make the show um he had to put in for leave
01:06:42
Bald Man
Yeah.
01:06:44
Bald Man
Oh, yeah.
01:07:03
Denis Tyrell
um Which is his request is already in as of last Thursday. so we're hoping it gets approved tomorrow because that will be seven days. Because if it's under seven days, the flight cost is going to go through the roof.
01:07:22
Denis Tyrell
So he was, don't know.
01:07:24
Bald Man
Well, it'll be awesome to see Parker again. Hopefully he can make it.
01:07:28
Denis Tyrell
Yeah, i I really hope he... I think he's going to end up coming to California because the plan was he was going to fly to Atlanta, stay for the show, fly back to California, and then fly California to Chicago.
01:07:41
Denis Tyrell
So unfortunately, that means three one-way flights.
01:07:42
Bald Man
Yeah.
01:07:43
Denis Tyrell
um So... That'll be pricey. um I'm picking up the the California legs and he was going to pick up the flight to Chicago. So we'll see what it's with the Chicago, chicago sorry, the Atlanta flight, what the Chicago to Atlanta flight is going to be.
01:08:02
Denis Tyrell
maybe Maybe he'll get a deal.
01:08:03
Bald Man
Yeah.
01:08:03
Denis Tyrell
Maybe if one of the, one of the flights isn't sold out, it'll actually, he could actually get a deal on it. I don't know.
01:08:12
Bald Man
Yeah.
01:08:13
Denis Tyrell
So. i would I mean, I'm going to see the kid anyway, but I would love for him to be at the show. I tried to coerce him into like wearing his uniform, but I don't think that's going to fly.
01:08:20
Bald Man
Yeah.
01:08:25
Denis Tyrell
He said no way would he be walking around in his uniform.
01:08:30
Bald Man
Oh, man.
01:08:32
Denis Tyrell
At least make him wear a Navy shirt.
01:08:37
Denis Tyrell
A T-shirt or something.
01:08:37
Bald Man
Oh, yeah, it'll be good.
01:08:38
Bald Man
Hopefully he can make it because that'll be good to see him. It's been a few.
01:08:40
Denis Tyrell
yeah
01:08:41
Bald Man
then Yeah, it's been eight. Was he there last year?
01:08:44
Denis Tyrell
Yeah. Yeah. He was there.
01:08:45
Bald Man
Yeah.
01:08:46
Denis Tyrell
Not sure.
01:08:46
Bald Man
I couldn't remember if it was last year or the year before, but yeah.
01:08:50
Denis Tyrell
Yeah.
01:08:50
Bald Man
Yeah, so it's been a year.
01:08:52
Denis Tyrell
Yeah. And yeah. Did you see him when you came here? Yeah. You must've.
01:08:58
Bald Man
No.
01:08:59
Denis Tyrell
You didn't see him when you were here?
01:09:00
Bald Man
No, he wasn't there.
01:09:02
Denis Tyrell
mean, is he didn't live with me anyway. He lived with his mom, but um
01:09:08
Denis Tyrell
he was around. He probably just didn't stop by because it was still summer, right? You were here. What? Eight, When, what month were you here?
01:09:15
Bald Man
No, one I was there in October.
01:09:19
Denis Tyrell
Oh, he was already October. No, he didn't ship out until November. So yeah, he was probably with his friends.
01:09:28
Bald Man
But you know, he probably didn't want to come by because Jared was sick again then.
01:09:34
Denis Tyrell
Probably. jar Jared, good I think it's you. I think when he thinks of you, it's he starts to get sick.
01:09:40
Bald Man
You think it's me?
01:09:42
Denis Tyrell
I think that's what it is.
01:09:43
Bald Man
tennith
01:09:44
Denis Tyrell
He knows he's going to see you next week.
01:09:45
Bald Man
he gets violently sick.
01:09:50
Denis Tyrell
I think now when he thinks about making knives, then he gets ill.
01:09:51
Bald Man
who
01:09:55
Denis Tyrell
That's what I think. He was supposed to be here two two days this weekend this past weekend, and he bailed on both days.
01:09:58
Bald Man
Yeah, I think...
01:10:03
Bald Man
It's either knives make him sick because he's sick of them or he gets so excited his immune system shuts down and he just can't handle it.
01:10:13
Denis Tyrell
yeah yeah probably that
01:10:18
Bald Man
I'll choose to believe that. I'm going to choose to believe that.
01:10:22
Denis Tyrell
oh all right man well anything else we uh we're gonna look forward to at uh blade show i'm not thinking of yeah we gotta we gotta to go to a nice dinner at least once all right we'll figure something out maybe saturday or something
01:10:30
Bald Man
Now we're just going to look forward to a good time. That's all.
01:10:37
Bald Man
Yeah, im I'm in. Let's go.
01:10:45
Bald Man
Yeah, we'll do a good dinner. Bring the guys and we'll have a party.
01:10:49
Denis Tyrell
Yeah, it's it's so tough to find a place around Cobb that isn't like packed. Maybe we'll have to book something.
01:10:58
Bald Man
And it's hard when you stay at the Waverly because you just don't want to leave.
01:11:02
Denis Tyrell
It's true. Maybe we just do delivery.
01:11:04
Bald Man
It's so convenient.
01:11:04
Denis Tyrell
Maybe we door dash it.
01:11:07
Bald Man
Yeah, it's so convenient.
01:11:10
Denis Tyrell
Well, the little, if it's not a million degrees, the little plaza that's next door isn't too bad. But you got a car. what are you worried about?
01:11:18
Bald Man
Yeah. I mean, still, it's nice.
01:11:20
Denis Tyrell
We can't all fit in it, but
01:11:23
Bald Man
This is true.
01:11:25
Denis Tyrell
we'll figure it out.
01:11:25
Bald Man
Well, it'll be a good time. I'm looking forward to it. Looking forward to seeing you there and seeing everybody else. So definitely be sure if you're listening and you stop by the booth, I will just like usual have some monsters and some waters. And so if you get thirsty and you're, you're slacking a little swing by booth, seven 51 and we'll get you refreshed and hydrated.
01:11:50
Denis Tyrell
I swear, I looked at the map and I thought I knew where your table was. um And then I looked there on the map and then I'm like, oh, because you say for a while you were like on the fence whether you're going to go back to a table or a booth.
01:12:03
Denis Tyrell
and that Maybe that was before Texas.
01:12:04
Bald Man
Yeah, yeah.
01:12:05
Denis Tyrell
And then just what last week or whenever it was that chatted with you was last week.
01:12:09
Bald Man
Yeah.
01:12:10
Denis Tyrell
I'm like, oh, he must have been going back to a table because because I don't see his booth while I was looking in the total wrong spot on the map is the problem. Um, cause then I was, cause then you said, oh no, I do have a booth. And I was like alarmed. Like, uh, you sure you do?
01:12:26
Denis Tyrell
Cause I don't see it.
01:12:27
Bald Man
ah
01:12:27
Denis Tyrell
Uh, and then I'm just blind and I couldn't find it, but, but I found it.
01:12:32
Bald Man
It was there.
01:12:33
Denis Tyrell
I didn't realize you were that. I, seemed like you were closer to us, but you're actually further away than I remember.
01:12:41
Bald Man
Yeah. Yeah, it's ah it's fairly central, and there's a lot of, um yeah, I mean, I had a lot of traffic there. it was a good spot, so I enjoyed it.
01:12:51
Denis Tyrell
Yeah. I was, and I've said this before, I have this thing like I want to face the front of the, like, the entrances so that, like, people are coming towards you and you can see your table.
01:13:03
Bald Man
Mm-hmm.
01:13:05
Denis Tyrell
I know yours faces that direction too. I like that. I don't like having a table where people are coming from my back, even though you got the overhead sign that is double-sided and stuff.
01:13:15
Bald Man
Right.
01:13:16
Denis Tyrell
I just, I like to face the... um the entrance where most of your people are coming from so that i can see oh there's a big crowd coming i don't know it's a mental thing but yeah this year again my table is facing the front which i like so yeah you think we're gonna start to see i don't did you watch um um jeremy uh simple little life did you watch his video on the decline of the knife market did you hear about that
01:13:23
Bald Man
Right.
01:13:29
Bald Man
Yeah.
01:13:32
Bald Man
Good. Got to see all the action.
01:13:50
Bald Man
I did. yeah i watched his the yeah i watched his video on it. it's It was an interesting take. What did you think?
01:13:59
Denis Tyrell
um yeah i mean i've been saying it for years that for two years now that i think we're gonna see a decline now that um fortune fires off the air and there was a big you know, there was a big bubble and now it's going to contract. And I think we're seeing that contraction now.
01:14:18
Denis Tyrell
Um, And I think we're seeing more guys get out of knife making, which, you know, for the guys that hang around, maybe that's not a bad thing.
01:14:29
Denis Tyrell
um You know, it's, we don't want to see people go out of business, but, you know, for the the guys that stick it out, then, you know, it's, it will eventually be better for us, but the buyer's got to be there.
01:14:29
Bald Man
Yeah.
01:14:42
Denis Tyrell
And I think we're going to see a decline in the market. And I think that's probably happened already.
01:14:48
Bald Man
Yeah.
01:14:51
Bald Man
Yeah, I think the market, um I agree that there's going to be a little bit of a decline. i think that's true of most markets. um I think there was a there was a just a perfect storm that happened with...
01:15:11
Bald Man
COVID, Forged in Fire, people having more time on their hands to do things.
01:15:14
Denis Tyrell
Yeah.
01:15:18
Bald Man
So you had a lot of guys get into knife making that were either out of jobs or their jobs are remote so they could do things with their hands.
01:15:28
Bald Man
you know It's a making being a knife maker just on the surface. It's they're small items. So and you don't need a huge shop to do it.
01:15:40
Bald Man
So it's not like woodworking, right? Woodworking, you need some room to store large pieces of wood, have big tables and table saws.
01:15:44
Denis Tyrell
yeah
01:15:49
Bald Man
um And so a lot of guys were able to get into it. um with a fairly, you know, we all know we most of us started with a little one by 30 cheap Harbor Freight, um, belt sander. And so your startup, your entry is super inexpensive, um, compared to a lot of other hobbies.
01:16:11
Bald Man
Um, so we saw a lot of guys get into that because they had time. We saw a lot of customers that were looking at those things because they were sitting watching TV and found forged in fire and Um, that handmade items just were super cool. I think both of those things have started to go away, which is why there's been a little map market downturn potentially. Um, that said, I agree with you. I, I think it's a good thing for guys that are going to stay in it. And it, and it does the cynical side says, well, it weeds out the people that were just there to make a buck. Um,
01:16:52
Bald Man
And if you're really passionate about knives and heat treat and edge geometry and fit and finish, then those guys are going to stay around.
01:17:02
Bald Man
Whether they whether it becomes a hobby and they continue to make knives or whether they continue to ramp up their business and go full time and make it a deal.
01:17:03
Denis Tyrell
Yeah.
01:17:13
Denis Tyrell
yeah I mean, there's some guys that are, they'll kill it no matter what. I think you're one of those guys. You're going to kill it at the show. um There's lots get like Knives by Nuge, like couple these guys that are just going to kill it no matter what.
01:17:27
Denis Tyrell
And they just have that, that go get them attitude. And then, the high-end custom makers, they're always going to have their collectors. I think the guys that are going to get pinched are those either the and say newer makers or they haven't really found their niche yet um they're the ones i think they're going to take the brunt of this um so it is what it is it happens in all markets um you know things go through cycles and we're in one of those down where the start of one of those down cycles i think we'll we'll see how but it'll be interesting to see attendance at blade show if that's going to be
01:17:50
Bald Man
Yeah.
01:18:09
Denis Tyrell
a predictor. Um, is that a trailing thing? Like, what are we going to see? Cause I think it's in increased the, like we haven't seen it decline yet. Attendance at blade show over the last three years.
01:18:21
Bald Man
Right.
01:18:22
Denis Tyrell
Maybe this is the one where it starts declining. So we'll see.
01:18:27
Bald Man
I don't think that'll be the case. I think, um yeah, I think it'll either increase or, it yeah, I think it'll increase, to be honest.
01:18:29
Denis Tyrell
You think it's going to increase?
01:18:36
Bald Man
I do. i think, I think ultimately there's more people that are getting into knives every day. um And I think there's more people that are staying as collectors.
01:18:50
Bald Man
I think that's the other thing that is not, um people aren't accounting for. you as Since I started as a knife collector, you know I'm trying to think of when the first year I went to Blade Show was. I think it was either nine or 10 years ago.
01:19:07
Bald Man
um and I had been collecting knives for three, four, five years maybe before that, I've seen the the knife industry talk about ups and downs even before now of um sales declining and sales is rising.
01:19:13
Denis Tyrell
Thank
01:19:28
Bald Man
And, you know, there's always the fear, right, that it's going to go away. I think two back to like what people are making, um Some of the people, and I'm not trying, I don't want to criticize anybody that's not um able to contend if they started full-time knife making.
01:19:43
Denis Tyrell
It's true.
01:19:47
Bald Man
I'm not trying to criticize. I'm taking a guess that as collectors or as hobby, people that are enthused about anything, whether it be knives, watches, if you're into hunting and guns or cycling, whatever you're into, whatever you're into,
01:20:06
Bald Man
your tastes change over time, right? You're chasing something else. And so if ah if maybe it's just seeing customers that are, their tastes are changing. You know, I think back to when I first started collecting knives, I started out with, ah you know, ah my family was young. we You know, I was working nonstop and we didn't have a lot of money because it was all going towards the kids in school and, you know, the house and all that stuff.
01:20:39
Bald Man
um And so. my knives that I started collecting were the Kershaw's and the CRKT's and $25 to knives.
01:20:49
Denis Tyrell
Thank you.
01:20:51
Bald Man
That was where i was at. and slowly over time, i began spending Your tastes change to where i'm not interested so much i mean some of the cheap inexpensive knives still grab my attention and they look cool But with that, I wanted more. i wanted ah premium steels premium handle materials or I was looking for other things. And so maybe that's what some people that are feeling the pinch are really their customers are moving on to something else, whether that's better. I don't mean it that they're on a better knife. They're just on to something else. You know, they started out with a hand forge knife and now they're going, well, a hand forge knife I have.
01:21:41
Bald Man
a full collection of those. Now I want to look at something that's, um, maybe a premium, you know, powder metal or G steel. That's going to be that super steel. So I can see and experience what that looks like, or maybe I want to get into folders or even the folder guys like me that started getting into fixed blades, your tastes just change.
01:22:04
Bald Man
Um, Again, I think that's the same with anything you collect. you know Watch guys are the same, right? Watch guys, you start out with one thing and then you you migrate to another. So I'm not so convinced that it's a decline rather than just the customers you're used to getting business from or maybe just their tastes have changed or they're looking for something that's different from all the things they have in their collection.
Blade Show Preparations and Expansion
01:22:29
Bald Man
And they'll be back.
01:22:29
Denis Tyrell
Yeah. And if Bladeshow Texas was any kind of indicator, that show has, since the last time I went, it seemed like it was twice the size.
01:22:42
Denis Tyrell
So um having, going to the show this year, i was blown away at the size of the show.
01:22:43
Bald Man
Yeah.
01:22:50
Denis Tyrell
ah So if that's any the indication that that show is growing at least 20 to 30% every year Now, I think it's growing faster than Atlanta is. um It's definitely growing faster than Atlanta. But, um yeah, if if it's any indication, we'll see what Atlanta does this year.
01:23:12
Denis Tyrell
Hopefully it just, even at even a steady state.
01:23:13
Bald Man
I also think just looking at the, yeah, looking at the map of the exhibitor, the floor plan, it looks like they've rearranged to add more booths. I don't know how many more tables they can add um other than adding to the second, the baller room.
01:23:31
Bald Man
ah But it it looks like there were some changes in the layout. I mean, I'd have to look back over the previous years, but. it definitely looked like they added more. So I would say it's continuing to grow.
01:23:45
Denis Tyrell
Yeah, that's good.
01:23:45
Bald Man
and don't think it's slowing down and they're kind of capped up on their, they're capped out on their space and that venue.
01:23:47
Denis Tyrell
that's That's awesome.
01:23:52
Bald Man
So I would imagine they're turning away people that are trying to exhibit.
01:23:59
Denis Tyrell
Yeah, that's an interesting one because, i mean, it gets to a point that they have to just say, yeah, this is the amount of space we have. And it's either...
01:24:08
Bald Man
Yeah.
01:24:08
Denis Tyrell
you get a whole nother block and then you got to pre-sell all that. Cause mean, they're, they always turn away, even Texas, they always turn away people, um, who try to get tables at the end.
01:24:17
Bald Man
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
01:24:19
Denis Tyrell
I know I tried one year at Texas and it was like, like six weeks out and they said, no, there's no table.
01:24:20
Bald Man
yeah
01:24:25
Denis Tyrell
There's no tables. Um, but yeah, we'll, we'll see. Uh, it'll be a good show no matter what. I'm so looking forward to it. Um, we will Like I said, we'll get there Thursday early.
01:24:40
Denis Tyrell
um think knowing Jared, the first thing we're going to want to do is have breakfast and and i probably set up right at nine. i think I've got some Knife Maker Guild meetings to go to Thursday morning.
01:24:58
Denis Tyrell
and then, um, yeah, then we're going to do the setup and then hopefully we can get into our rooms and, you know, have a nap. Um, and, uh, you know, hook up with everyone in the afternoon that we didn't see on the floor setting up and, uh, yeah, then have, we might just go to Neil's early.
01:25:15
Bald Man
Yeah.
01:25:20
Denis Tyrell
I mean, I'm be game for that whenever, uh, Actually, get some, because we were late last year. We didn't get any food. So maybe we'll ah get there early and get some food this year.
01:25:28
Bald Man
Yeah.
01:25:33
Bald Man
That sounds like a plan.
01:25:35
Denis Tyrell
All right, man. Well, I'm looking forward to seeing you and seeing everybody else, especially our sponsors. So what if you guys are at Blade Show, definitely come by Table 7-0 for us. And what's your booth again?
01:25:52
Denis Tyrell
7 51 to see the one and only bald man knife and tool. Uh, so come see us say hi and enjoy blade show. Thanks folks.
01:26:02
Bald Man
a wrap.
01:26:02
Denis Tyrell
We will see you soon.
01:26:06
Bald Man
peace
01:26:12
Bald Man
and that's a wrap
01:26:24
Denis Tyrell
And that's wrap.