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18: The View Askewniverse - Mallrats with Anthony
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You've heard us talk enough about him over the last 17 episodes, but Ryan's IRL lifelong bestie is on the pod talking about the 90's cult classic Mallrats. We were supposed to do Mallrats AND Jay & Silent Bob but like the attention deficit baddies that we are, we decided to record it in two parts. BONG.
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Podcast Introduction
00:00:28
Ryan
Welcome Real Hot Nerd Shit, a pop culture podcast where real hot nerds talk about real nerd shit. I'm your host, Ryan.
00:00:38
Shauna (she/her)
And I'm your co-host, Shauna.
Episode Focus: Kevin Smith Films
00:00:40
Ryan
And on this episode of Real Hot Nerd Shit, we will be talking, we'll be doing a double feature. We'll be talking about Mallrats and Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back just for, you know, the sheer joy of it.
00:00:53
Ryan
um And we are still in our theme of the View Askewniverse. We did take a quick little pause to talk to the remarkable Jacqueline Moore about the film The People's Joker.
00:01:06
Ryan
um But hey, we're back talking about Kevin Smith.
00:01:10
Shauna (she/her)
A regularly scheduled broadcast. And
Guest: Anthony and His Interests
00:01:12
Ryan
regularly.
00:01:12
Shauna (she/her)
with that, we have our special guest hot nerd for this episode, the oft-referenced.
00:01:18
Shauna (she/her)
And, you know, are you have been on this podcast, even though this is your first time on this podcast. Welcome, Anthony.
00:01:25
Anthony
Yes, I exist.
00:01:26
Ryan
Yeah.
00:01:27
Anthony
I'm real. I am not, in fact, a figment of Ryan's imagination. You've not, yeah, in the flesh.
00:01:33
Ryan
I didn't make them. i didn't make it up.
00:01:33
Anthony
Here I am.
00:01:35
Ryan
Yeah.
00:01:35
Anthony
Soak it in, people. I've made it.
00:01:37
Ryan
Yeah. Um, you, you are my Brad Pitt in, uh, whatever that fight, fight club. You're, you're my Brad Pitt and fight club. You're Tyler Durden. I've been doing this alone for 30 years. Turns out he's all made up.
00:01:51
Ryan
Um, so yeah, we have my OG nerd friend here, uh, who I have talked about in nearly every single episode. Um, because we have been friends for where I think we're just rounding up to 30 years at this point. Like,
00:02:08
Ryan
It's probably like 28 in reality or something, but we'll say 30 years. um And we have been through every weird iteration of general interests.
00:02:20
Ryan
So um I know I could name the things that you are particularly nerdy about. But Anthony, we asked this question of our guests. um If you are a nerd, if if a nerd is someone who is weirdly knowledgeable about something and kind of like intensely passionate and sometimes other people don't really understand it or think it's uncool.
00:02:41
Ryan
um What are you a nerd about?
00:02:43
Anthony
Ooh, yeah. Top of the list. Absolutely, like, big, starred, italicized, underlined gamer, like, ever since a very young age.
00:02:52
Ryan
Yeah.
00:02:54
Anthony
Like, earliest memories playing track and field and Duck Hunt on the Nintendo in the basement with my brother and his, like, the neighborhood kids.
00:03:00
Shauna (she/her)
Oh god.
00:03:02
Anthony
Like, oh, yeah. So, like... And then ah EverQuest. Oh, dear God. Yeah. Middle school got absolutely just helplessly addicted to EverQuest. i Ryan and probably was like the only friend I had left at some point because people would come over and I would just play EverQuest all the time.
00:03:13
Ryan
Yeah.
00:03:18
Ryan
And I'll be like, oh, sick.
00:03:18
Anthony
Yeah.
00:03:19
Ryan
can Can we make new characters so I can pick out their outfits, please?
00:03:23
Anthony
Yes, exactly. Exactly. um So that has been a certainly lifelong nerddom of mine. um i also very passionate about science, biologist and
Friendship and Shared Experiences
00:03:36
Anthony
engineer by trade, little bit of both, but um genetics, like always been my jam, cell biology, gene regulation, holy shit.
00:03:45
Anthony
Like talk about it for hours. It's my favorite.
00:03:47
Ryan
Yeah,
00:03:48
Anthony
So ah yeah, you know, fairly nerdy, but, you know, that's my kind of like intellectual jam, if you will.
00:03:55
Ryan
yeah. Yeah,
00:03:56
Anthony
um And furthermore, I'd say music is something like, I'm not like oh, yeah actually, like you should like this album by this band for blah, blah, blah, because they had...
00:04:05
Ryan
yeah, yeah.
00:04:07
Anthony
like you know Not like that, but um I'd say my musical taste is fairly nerdy these days.
00:04:13
Ryan
Mm.
00:04:14
Anthony
um I mean, it was also cringe at some points in my life, too. Like, when Ryan and I would wear velour tracksuits to school and bump, like, G-Unit in my Ford Explorer, you know what I mean? Yeah.
00:04:26
Anthony
So there was like some cringe there as well. Absolutely owning it. But ah no, these days, like my favorite bands are like prog metal.
00:04:30
Ryan
Yeah.
00:04:33
Anthony
And i love listening to shit that I cannot like, like, how did he just do that? Especially with drummers. Cause I am like a ah casual hobbyist drummer.
00:04:42
Ryan
Self-taught drummer.
00:04:44
Anthony
Yeah. Self-taught self-taught mad props to rock band.
00:04:44
Ryan
Self-taught. Yeah.
00:04:48
Anthony
That is actually what got me wanting to learn how to play a real drum set was I got like stupid good at playing rock band in college is like, yeah.
00:04:49
Ryan
Oh, what?
00:04:55
Shauna (she/her)
Okay.
00:04:56
Ryan
Yeah, Shauna, add it to the fucking list.
00:04:57
Shauna (she/her)
i have... Oh.
00:04:58
Ryan
Are you kidding me
00:05:00
Shauna (she/her)
Absolutely.
00:05:00
Ryan
We were just talking about how Shauna was a rock band girl, but I was a guitar hero.
00:05:02
Shauna (she/her)
oh my god.
00:05:07
Ryan
Like I kind of peaked at guitar hero. i was like, this was fun.
00:05:10
Anthony
Right. Right.
00:05:11
Ryan
No, thanks.
00:05:12
Shauna (she/her)
see.
00:05:12
Ryan
Apparently it stuck for Shauna though.
00:05:12
Shauna (she/her)
But a rock band was a staple in my house. It was a staple at our house parties because I was usually the host and a lot of for a lot of them in my 20s. And so we would just have rock bands set up
Sports and Society
00:05:24
Shauna (she/her)
because then it's both an activity for people to do and it's music for the party. It was great. It was fun.
00:05:30
Shauna (she/her)
It was so accessible to everybody because there's something to do for, you know, some people just want to sing. Some people just want to sit there and
00:05:36
Ryan
Yeah.
00:05:38
Shauna (she/her)
do their little drum thing, but it was, oh my gosh, i I think one of my biggest, like, when I think of my video game accomplishments in my life, beating Rock Band 1's Endless setup Set List on Expert is absolutely one of them.
00:05:38
Ryan
Pretend to play the drums. Yeah.
00:05:51
Anthony
Ooh, flex. Yeah. So ah there you go
00:05:54
Shauna (she/her)
It was, beating that on guitar, that was in, oh because the the hardest song was that kind of that country song that was like, oh, green grass and high tides.
00:06:04
Anthony
Green grass in high tide forever.
00:06:07
Shauna (she/her)
Oh my God.
00:06:07
Ryan
Oh my god.
00:06:10
Anthony
Yeah, and then the and yeah the the riff was super jumpy, catchy, and fun.
00:06:10
Ryan
Jesus Christ.
00:06:14
Anthony
And then the solo would start. It was just like, fuck you. Like, yeah, you better save some star power because this is going to hurt.
00:06:20
Shauna (she/her)
Oh yeah. Abs. Save. Okay. Okay. we keep ah
00:06:27
Ryan
When like, I'm sorry, it just, the the list of reasons why I'm so grateful that I finally like ah two and two together that the two of you should be friends because the the list of similarities ah just continues to go on and on.
00:06:27
Anthony
Oh, for real.
00:06:28
Shauna (she/her)
Absolutely.
00:06:34
Shauna (she/her)
We are...
00:06:39
Anthony
oh yeah
00:06:41
Ryan
You both have, one of the other things that I would say you are kind of nerdy about, you are a sports nerd. Like you're not like a ah ah betting sports nerd, but you you have played sports your whole life.
00:06:47
Anthony
no
00:06:51
Anthony
joe
Fan Expo and Celebrity Encounters
00:07:05
Anthony
Those lesbians can fall, man.
00:07:06
Ryan
yes yeah yeah especially especially some of our folks yeah sean i'm sorry
00:07:07
Anthony
People can play.
00:07:08
Shauna (she/her)
oh
00:07:12
Shauna (she/her)
Oh, no, i was just but I just think it's funny that like when you mentioned like not being betting, even though you're like, like oh, yeah, I love math and like science-y, and you're like, yeah, you know what, though? Even you're like, I'm going to away from this.
00:07:23
Shauna (she/her)
This is like, maybe that's probably the smart like thing in the grand scheme of it all.
00:07:23
Anthony
No, I...
00:07:24
Ryan
Not for me.
00:07:28
Anthony
Yeah, I know myself too well that I would ah be donating a lot of money if I decided to and go embark on that endeavor.
00:07:28
Ryan
True.
00:07:34
Ryan
Yeah.
00:07:35
Shauna (she/her)
Hmm.
00:07:36
Anthony
So, like, casual fantasy football leagues, absolutely. Like, all about talking shit and playing fantasy football.
00:07:39
Ryan
Sure.
00:07:42
Anthony
But, yeah, the, like, like the FanDuel thing, not for me.
00:07:46
Ryan
That stresses me out. I'm so sorry.
00:07:47
Anthony
No, no, I can't.
00:07:49
Ryan
okay did you ever watch Idiocracy?
00:07:49
Anthony
Yeah. Um, I, I've seen it, but oh man, I probably greened out during it.
TV Series and Tropes Discussion
00:07:56
Anthony
So like, you know, I know like the things that are memes still, you know what mean?
00:07:56
Ryan
yeah
00:08:00
Ryan
yeah well it just it feels like every day we get closer and closer to like just fully living in like you know giant trash piles like in idiocracy and like i think about just like the overwhelming amount of pressure to participate like that advertising for fan duel and online sports betting is so fucking intense like
00:08:21
Anthony
It,
00:08:21
Ryan
I am thankfully old enough to be, that was never something I was interested in and it's never going to become something that I am interested in But there's a lot of people who have access to gambling now who might not have had that access before.
00:08:35
Ryan
And it's just terrifying, you know, in.
00:08:37
Anthony
Yeah, like like, how am I supposed to raise my children to enjoy sports when from their childhood that that is just shoved in their faces like an integral part of the experience?
00:08:48
Anthony
Like, how could you possibly sit and enjoy watching this Cavaliers game if you're not betting on the second half over?
00:08:49
Ryan
Damn.
00:08:49
Shauna (she/her)
Oh, gosh, I hadn't even thought of that. Oh.
00:08:55
Anthony
Or like Darius Garland's rebounds, you know what I mean?
00:08:56
Ryan
Right.
00:08:59
Anthony
Like, it... and No, I, it actually legitimately like makes me enjoy watching professional sports less for sure.
00:09:01
Ryan
Yeah, no.
00:09:09
Ryan
Yeah.
00:09:10
Ryan
It's the, it's advertising on fucking steroids. Like it's advertising is one thing, but like advertising that to your point has now sort of taken you not taken, but it pulls focus from the actual game itself and makes it something that you are like, you're really missing out if you don't fucking take this free $50 before we turn around and take, you know, five grand from you.
00:09:10
Anthony
It is, you know, detracted from my enjoyment of it.
00:09:36
Anthony
FanDuel owns the goddamn regional basketball networks that broadcast the games locally. It's the FanDuel sports network. Like, find me a garbage bag that I can go vomit in.
00:09:44
Ryan
Fresh hell.
00:09:46
Anthony
It is...
00:09:47
Ryan
Fresh hell.
00:09:47
Anthony
But literally, we could probably tangent and do an entire separate podcast about the horrors of sports gambling.
00:09:52
Ryan
Yes.
00:09:54
Anthony
But, yeah, I would say, like, for sports, my nerddom...
00:09:54
Ryan
Yes.
00:09:55
Shauna (she/her)
That's...
00:09:58
Anthony
Because I am very much, like, I love watching X's and O's. I love watching All-22 football. Um... My YouTube algorithm is just lousy with pickleball videos. Like, you know, hit your third shot drops here.
00:10:08
Ryan
Yeah.
00:10:09
Anthony
You don't want to hit them here. You know, like positioning, all that shit, all about it. But, um, I was a goalie my entire life. So like, I think it's informed, like being a hockey goalie, you're the only person who sees all 10 people.
00:10:22
Anthony
and And I'm out there directing traffic. Cause I'm the only person who could see everything. So I have, I have to be constantly doing the math of like, this where's this guy, you know, where's the weak side winger?
00:10:25
Shauna (she/her)
o
00:10:30
Anthony
Did he crash? Is the weak side defenseman pinching, is he in the slot? Like, where I got to know.
Nostalgia for Mall Culture
00:10:35
Anthony
And if my defenseman don't know, then I have to go like, hey, get get the fuck out there. Like, don't let that happen. So um I think it's just been ingrained in me.
00:10:41
Ryan
You want to know how that's my best friend? how How I know that's my best friend? Because I was just sitting here staring at you like so endearingly because I do, you know, this has been my my life for 30 years is being like, I have no idea what you're talking about, but you're so passionate about it. Thank you. Keep going. Yes.
00:10:58
Ryan
I will, I will, I will lose focus in a little bit, but really like, you know, I've said it before on the podcast, like most of my exposure to sports was because of Anthony and his family and like his, you know, his brother and his dad were, are also very, his whole family is all extremely sportsy.
00:11:16
Ryan
Um, but like, you know, his dad helped me with baseball when we were both playing like little league together and just, you know, I'm one of the very lucky, uh, kids who grew up down the street from their best friend.
00:11:16
Shauna (she/her)
Mm-hmm.
00:11:29
Ryan
And then like, you know, I, I rode on his athletic coattails for our entire adolescence until I could find my thing. And then once I started doing my thing, he started doing it too.
00:11:43
Ryan
This bitch joined theater in 10th grade because he's got a great voice for fucking theater and, you know, is ah a boy with a pulse. So the directors were like, please, please, please, please.
00:11:56
Ryan
Um, Yeah, so not a theater nerd like me, but it's in his roots. he knows
00:12:01
Anthony
Theatrical.
00:12:01
Ryan
He knows the weird shit about theater nerds because he was backstage all the time.
00:12:04
Anthony
Yes. Been there, done that. Absolutely.
00:12:08
Ryan
Yeah.
00:12:09
Shauna (she/her)
It's funny because that's kind of how I got into doing theater in high school as well was that same kind of way. and it didn't, like, keep
Mallrats Movie Plot Recap
00:12:15
Shauna (she/her)
me, but I was where I, like, the experience was going in with someone else and, like, joining with, like...
00:12:20
Ryan
Yeah. Yep.
00:12:22
Shauna (she/her)
Ugh. No, and I...
00:12:23
Ryan
Just having a...
00:12:23
Shauna (she/her)
But... Oh, I was just thinking about sports because, so first of all, i cant I actually was coming from playing pickleball.
00:12:24
Ryan
Go ahead.
00:12:29
Shauna (she/her)
And so is the funny just, but I had a day at the gym. I played with dodgeball and pickleball back to back. It was really, it was actually wonderful. But I was thinking about this in terms of like thinking back historically, you know, with have good newt knowing I was going be talking to you two, you know, how you and I, think you and I, Ryan both come from a similar relationship.
00:12:38
Ryan
Yeah.
00:12:51
Shauna (she/her)
growing up not necessarily being seen as athletic, being seen as someone who's good at sports, whose interest is sports. And, you know, that is where we just differ because I've always been interested.
00:13:04
Shauna (she/her)
Like I was the kid in fourth grade who was taking the newspaper on Monday mornings, the sports section, and do it running a fantasy football league by hand for like four or five classmates. Like,
00:13:18
Shauna (she/her)
That was where I was. And so that kind of nerdy, like, i so appreciate that.
00:13:19
Ryan
Yeah.
00:13:23
Shauna (she/her)
But then I was also like, never actually treated really as being this like as sportsy as I've always been. only until like now, like when I was saying, like I mentioned to a friend today, I was like, wow, you know, when my dad was talking about my athletic ability, I think his comment was, well, it's a good thing that I'm good at school.
00:13:42
Shauna (she/her)
Like, so that was how I was always like seeing from that perspective.
00:13:42
Ryan
yeah
00:13:47
Shauna (she/her)
And now like, I as I like, oh, that's not at all like what my friends would think of me or what the people who know me in my actual life or think and I, yeah, that what if and the influence of.
00:13:54
Ryan
correct
00:13:59
Ryan
it's um
00:14:00
Shauna (she/her)
Hmm.
00:14:00
Ryan
I was the exact opposite. Yeah, I had all of the expectations. Everyone expected to meet me to be a great athlete. I've been tall my entire life. Like, I was always, you know, tallest kid in even our, like, elementary school classes. And um i have really long arms and really long legs. So, like, I should, in theory, be good at sports.
00:14:22
Ryan
But, like, the socialness of it all, you know, obviously I've talked about it a million times. and finding the right kind of team, which also speaking of another thing that I brought my best friend into was, ah he played on Stonewall kickball for the first time. And it was, it healed a little part of me that I don't think I needed. I knew I needed healed to like play on a sports team with my childhood best friend and do like really, really well together.
00:14:49
Ryan
um we did also both suffer an injury because I sprained my ankle and he pulled some muscle one day, but
00:14:54
Anthony
Yep. Quad pull.
00:14:55
Ryan
yeah
00:14:55
Anthony
Yeah, that was ah that was a pickleball, kickball back-to-back that did me dirty.
00:14:56
Ryan
Yep.
00:14:57
Shauna (she/her)
It was like this. Oh.
00:15:00
Ryan
Yeah.
00:15:00
Anthony
i tweaked it, played pickleball in the morning, and I was like, ah, fuck it. I'll be fine. and And the first kick, I just felt it rip, like, from right above my knee to, like, halfway.
00:15:04
Ryan
Yeah.
00:15:10
Anthony
I was like, oh, no, Anthony, you idiot.
00:15:12
Ryan
Yep.
00:15:13
Anthony
So I put myself on the IR for a couple weeks, but all good.
00:15:14
Ryan
Yep.
00:15:17
Ryan
Yeah. So, you know, the the joy could go on forever about all the reasons that um I'm so stoked to have um Anthony here. But there were some things that we felt like we should catch up about, you know, our normal sort of general banter thing.
00:15:34
Ryan
um First and foremost, Shauna and i Yes, please.
00:15:36
Anthony
Can I cut you out for a second, Ryan, to ask a very important question to Shauna? And you guys can edit this out if you want to.
00:15:41
Ryan
Yes.
00:15:42
Anthony
But Shauna, where do you play pickleball on Sundays? And when are we playing? Because Sundays is pickleball day for your boy.
00:15:47
Shauna (she/her)
Ooh. So I wish, I really wish that we had done this I would have, we were needing a fourth person for our pickleball league.
00:15:54
Anthony
Oh, damn.
00:15:54
Shauna (she/her)
And like, I was literally needing someone for this.
00:15:54
Anthony
um
00:15:57
Anthony
Oh, I'm um'm a stud.
00:15:58
Shauna (she/her)
And I, okay.
00:15:59
Anthony
um I can play.
00:16:01
Shauna (she/her)
Okay. Cause I can too. And so that's where, cause like I grew up playing tennis. And so like, and again, like I was like, even like doing that is like, and always feeling like I did solidly enough, but like, I was still like,
00:16:07
Anthony
Oh.
00:16:13
Shauna (she/her)
I had so much time in it now that like I'm like, oh, my gosh, like all of those like lessons. And then I took my dodgeballness and was wearing my knee pads. And so I was like sliding to get balls. and It was looking really cool.
00:16:24
Shauna (she/her)
Like I felt really like for not having played pickleball in like two years. And that was like the only time I'd ever played it. I was like, oh, I walked in. You know, apparently pickleball is a lot like what they say about, you know,
00:16:36
Shauna (she/her)
It's like riding a bike or wearing high-heeled shoes. Once you know how, you never forget.
00:16:39
Ryan
Sure.
00:16:41
Shauna (she/her)
And also, fun fact, i only know how to do one of those.
00:16:41
Ryan
Sure.
00:16:43
Shauna (she/her)
Your guess as to which one. and
00:16:45
Ryan
No one, no one guess. No one's allowed to guess.
00:16:48
Shauna (she/her)
Well, it's a mystery.
00:16:50
Ryan
Does she know how to ride a bike or does she know how to walk in high heels? We did have a whole conversation about, you know, uh, nope, nevermind. I don't think that that conversation was, um, on, was actually recorded when we were talking about your shenanigans and jacklet in San Francisco.
00:17:02
Shauna (she/her)
It's on, you have, um, for $5.99 a month, you two can get, no, I'm just kidding.
00:17:05
Ryan
like
00:17:06
Shauna (she/her)
Yeah.
00:17:07
Ryan
First of all, it's $6.99 a month, bitch.
00:17:07
Anthony
Join the Patreon community for this and more. Let's monetize this bitch.
00:17:11
Ryan
Yeah, yeah.
00:17:12
Anthony
Let's go.
00:17:13
Ryan
Yeah. So um stonewall had Stonewall is doing their pickleball season.
00:17:13
Shauna (she/her)
ah
00:17:19
Ryan
That's that's where you were playing today, right, John?
00:17:20
Shauna (she/her)
yeah Yeah, the local Stonewall Sports League.
00:17:21
Anthony
Gotcha.
00:17:21
Ryan
But look, between the...
00:17:22
Shauna (she/her)
Yeah, like,
00:17:23
Anthony
Do they still have open plays on, like, was it Friday nights? There we go.
00:17:28
Shauna (she/her)
I think they do.
00:17:30
Anthony
Food for thought.
00:17:30
Shauna (she/her)
They have, like, a bunch of, like, honestly, it's, they have a lot of times, like, you can rent courts and such, and, like, I would love to, like kind of get some practice in.
00:17:30
Anthony
Food for thought.
00:17:36
Anthony
Excellent.
00:17:36
Ryan
Between the two of you and snacks, with the two of you and snacks, Ryan would absolutely, totally, if you all wanted to start, I'm not including myself in this in any way, shape, or form.
00:17:40
Shauna (she/her)
oh my gosh.
00:17:47
Ryan
No, thank you.
00:17:48
Anthony
One of us.
00:17:48
Ryan
um Maybe I'll give it a shot.
00:17:49
Anthony
One of us.
00:17:50
Ryan
Maybe I'll give it a shot.
00:17:50
Anthony
One of us. One of us.
00:17:52
Shauna (she/her)
Yeah.
00:17:52
Ryan
We'll see.
00:17:53
Shauna (she/her)
I mean, you know, you are tall. No.
00:17:55
Ryan
ah Right, exactly. Exactly. Will my gigantic arms...
00:17:57
Anthony
With his, dude, his reach at the net, he would be so lethal if we taught him how to hit like a little forehand flick.
00:18:00
Shauna (she/her)
a
00:18:03
Anthony
He'd be devastating.
00:18:03
Shauna (she/her)
It's a little like... Oh, yeah.
00:18:04
Anthony
Yeah. that he Yeah.
00:18:06
Ryan
yeah
00:18:06
Anthony
He's got potential.
00:18:07
Ryan
All you have to do is compliment me, Anthony. I'm already in. Tell me that there's a space for me and I'm in. So Sean and I went to Fan Expo yesterday and ah that was that was your first time at Fan Expo in Cleveland?
00:18:22
Shauna (she/her)
I've been to it when it was WizardCon.
00:18:22
Ryan
Did you go before?
00:18:25
Ryan
ahard con I'm so glad they changed that name.
00:18:25
Shauna (she/her)
So, like, i it's... It's the same thing. Well, yeah, because it was because of the former Wizard magazine that now is no longer a thing.
00:18:34
Ryan
Oh, to me, it felt very like Grand Wizard of the Ku Klux Klan.
00:18:34
Shauna (she/her)
Is why they were a WizardCon. Wizard?
00:18:39
Ryan
Yeah.
00:18:39
Shauna (she/her)
Yeah.
00:18:39
Ryan
Oh, different, different, different interpretations.
00:18:40
Shauna (she/her)
Or, oh. Oh, yeah, no. Different, similarly bad thing. Well, okay, not similarly.
00:18:46
Ryan
Correct.
00:18:46
Shauna (she/her)
One was much worse, but...
00:18:47
Ryan
Yeah, yeah, yeah. One was much worse, but, you know.
00:18:49
Shauna (she/her)
Okay,
00:18:49
Ryan
Yeah, I don't think I ever went when it was WizardCon. It was always the, it's always a really shitty weekend. Like, it's not a good weekend to attend for some reason.
00:18:58
Shauna (she/her)
Yeah, you know, and but they got some good stars. like they they They came out and it was really nice to see like the Supernatural guys were there. um
00:19:07
Ryan
Charlie Cox, Manny Jacinto.
00:19:09
Shauna (she/her)
Charlie Cox.
00:19:11
Ryan
so um So you met bra you may Brandon Routh, who is from...
00:19:15
Shauna (she/her)
Brandon Routh, who is ah famous for a couple roles, Scott Pilgrim vs. The World. He's one of the evil ex-boyfriends. He's also Superman in, I believe it was the Bryan Singer movie, that was the one-off that was kind of like a redo of the original Superman, but it was fun.
00:19:27
Ryan
Yes.
00:19:31
Ryan
Yeah, it wasn't great.
00:19:31
Shauna (she/her)
He was a good Superman. And then he's also ah Ray Palmer, who is the Atom, on one of my favorite shows of all time, Legends of Tomorrow.
00:19:33
Ryan
It was fine.
00:19:41
Shauna (she/her)
And so I, of course, had to show up wearing my...
00:19:41
Ryan
yeah
00:19:43
Shauna (she/her)
I have a shirt that looks like an Adidas shirt, but it says Avalanche instead of Adidas. Avalanche being the main ship in the show. And so...
00:19:54
Ryan
Anthony, that was so funny. i ah That was hysterical because you like dropped down and then your head was just kind of hovering for a second like you were being maniacal.
00:20:06
Anthony
Oh, yeah. No, i was ah I was standing at my standing desk. And now i would like to get cozy. So I'm getting cozy.
00:20:12
Ryan
Yeah, good choice.
00:20:12
Shauna (she/her)
That's fair.
00:20:12
Anthony
But yeah, no, my head vanished. And then it like elevated back into the frame very, very slowly.
00:20:16
Ryan
that
00:20:16
Anthony
Yeah, that's that's gold for the ah that's gold for the social medias right there.
00:20:17
Ryan
I thought you were doing a bit.
00:20:19
Shauna (she/her)
a
00:20:21
Anthony
My dumb bald ass head just like,
00:20:21
Ryan
ah truly is.
00:20:24
Shauna (she/her)
It's going to a gif.
00:20:24
Ryan
We brought in our token white guy and exactly.
00:20:25
Shauna (she/her)
It's going to first post-podcast gif. Yeah.
00:20:28
Anthony
There. Oh, what an honor.
00:20:29
Ryan
Yeah.
00:20:29
Anthony
i am. Gosh, just this. I am such a, uh, gosh, you guys are making me blush over here.
00:20:33
Ryan
Groundbreaking. Yeah.
00:20:36
Anthony
Just cameo appearances, gifts.
00:20:37
Ryan
Okay. so So
00:20:39
Anthony
i got the whole nine going for me.
00:20:41
Ryan
the whole nine. um But yeah, yesterday we spent ah quite a while there. um And I, I met Felicia Day um of I know her from Buffy the Vampire Slayer. She plays a potential named Vi she's one of my favorite potentials. And that was like the thing that I told her. And then she was like, so do you like voice work? Because like, that's what a lot of her career has been, has been like voice acting.
00:21:05
Ryan
And um I, I kind of forgot that that's what she was like, the most well-known for. I was like, oh, sorry, girl. Like, it's just, you know, I came up to because I'm, I happen to be watching the episodes in which you are starring right now on Buffy the Vampire Slayer.
00:21:19
Ryan
um And I think she seems super nice, but she told me I had a great voice for um voice acting.
00:21:25
Shauna (she/her)
Oh, I love that.
00:21:25
Ryan
So suck it, nerds. I'm out of this bitch.
00:21:29
Anthony
Yeah.
00:21:29
Ryan
Someone of the 50 people that listen to this, and I have now just, yes, I'm saying 50 people listen, it's like 25, but of the people that listen to this, if you are ever interested in casting me in voice acting, I'm tired of working for companies and organizations. I just want to do voice acting. Let's get into it.
00:21:47
Ryan
I think I'd be good at that.
00:21:48
Shauna (she/her)
what would you What's your catchphrase? Like, can you on workshops some here? Like, is there anything you want to try out here?
00:21:53
Ryan
No, don't put me on the spot because the first thing that's going to come to my mind
00:21:56
Shauna (she/her)
Ooh, I like that. That's a good one.
00:21:57
Ryan
Don't put me on the spot.
00:21:58
Shauna (she/her)
no
00:21:58
Ryan
um No, no. um My, I'm a, I'm a grumpy faggot.
00:22:03
Shauna (she/her)
sure
00:22:05
Ryan
What did I say earlier?
00:22:06
Anthony
Yeah.
00:22:06
Ryan
Disgruntive faggot.
00:22:07
Shauna (she/her)
is it
00:22:08
Ryan
That's yeah. That's my actual catchphrase. I said, I'm a homosexual having a panic attack.
00:22:15
Ryan
um So yeah. Fan expo, anything that like stuck out, Sean, anything that was particularly cool.
00:22:21
Shauna (she/her)
No, I was, Brandon Roth was delightful. I was so happy I got to meet him Though, i'm I'm a big Felicia Day fan. Like, I used to watch, you ever watch The Guild? Is that on...
00:22:29
Ryan
Yeah.
00:22:30
Shauna (she/her)
Okay, so where she was in this like web this web series of her being in-life WoW party that like then like meet each other and like how that goes.
00:22:44
Shauna (she/her)
and like I thought it was a really interesting look at that kind of like online gamer life from the early 2000s. That was very much...
00:22:50
Ryan
yeah
00:22:51
Shauna (she/her)
you know i was never i was never a while girlie, but like i appreciate... it and like was playing first person shooters instead.
00:22:58
Ryan
I mean, you weren't... Yeah, oh my goodness. Also, the list of games that both of you, I'm certain, would have played. Like, Shauna, I...
00:23:09
Ryan
The two of you need a one-on-one Halo match for me.
00:23:13
Anthony
Oh, whenever whenever she wants to BR start me on blockout and lose a little bit of her soul, come find your boy.
00:23:13
Ryan
Just for me.
00:23:20
Anthony
I'm ready.
00:23:21
Shauna (she/her)
Oh, see, i was going to say, we we break out the Halo 1 pistols at Hang'em High.
00:23:26
Anthony
oh Oh, okay.
00:23:26
Shauna (she/her)
That's my... Yeah.
00:23:27
Anthony
You're a purist, a lady of culture, I see.
00:23:29
Ryan
Yeah.
00:23:29
Shauna (she/her)
Yeah. the
00:23:30
Anthony
and But no rockets, though. No rockets. we you know
00:23:32
Shauna (she/her)
No, yeah.
00:23:33
Anthony
yeah Yeah, no one gets the rockets and we just, yeah, mano y mano. There we go.
00:23:37
Ryan
i literally just...
00:23:38
Shauna (she/her)
See, we had and we had a name for when you had a rocket launcher and you grabbed the invisibility. It was called Squirrel Tactics for our one friend whose name was always Squirrel Ass.
00:23:51
Ryan
Sure. Sure. Everyone had a friend that went by squirrel ass.
00:23:53
Shauna (she/her)
Of course, as you do.
00:23:55
Ryan
Yeah.
00:23:55
Anthony
Oh, no.
00:23:55
Ryan
Mm-hmm.
00:23:56
Shauna (she/her)
Yeah.
00:23:56
Anthony
I wore brown armor and my name was Poops in Halo 1.
00:24:00
Ryan
It sure was.
00:24:01
Anthony
Classic.
00:24:01
Shauna (she/her)
See? Because then you were killed by poops.
00:24:02
Anthony
Classic. Yes.
00:24:04
Ryan
up
00:24:04
Shauna (she/her)
I mean, unfortunately, I still will always think of my one friend who, at the time, it was unfortunate that he picked that you were killed by Jane Fonda, and he thought it was the funniest thing, but the jokes were on him because it ended up being his nickname for the next decade plus of his life.
00:24:05
Anthony
Yeah.
00:24:20
Shauna (she/her)
So, everyone just called him Fonda.
00:24:20
Ryan
Work. What a great nickname, though. Jane Fonda's a bad bitch.
00:24:24
Shauna (she/her)
That's true. You're absolutely correct.
00:24:25
Ryan
Her name deserves respect. Jane Fonda is a bad bitch. um
00:24:30
Shauna (she/her)
That was almost the universe's way of making sure that she was respected. That was like, no, no, she's worth more than being this one-off Halo nickname.
00:24:34
Ryan
Yes.
00:24:38
Ryan
Exactly.
00:24:39
Shauna (she/her)
Clearly.
00:24:39
Ryan
duper right. um the ah What was the show that we watched, Anthony? Was it Red vs. Blue?
00:24:48
Anthony
Yes!
00:24:48
Shauna (she/her)
Yes.
00:24:50
Ryan
Did you watch that, Shauna?
00:24:52
Shauna (she/her)
Oh, absolutely. i watched it. And actually, one of the funniest, like, for being, like, a closeted trans woman. yeah So at one point, my ah i they local comic book store owner, which is where we all hung out and played, and he was our friend, he went and he got the group of us all red versus blue shirts with the different characters on it.
00:25:13
Shauna (she/her)
And the one he gave me was Tex, who was the one who wore black armor and was actually a girl.
00:25:17
Anthony
Beer. Yup.
00:25:20
Shauna (she/her)
And because the joke was, ha ha, you're both really good at Halo, but you're a girl, was like what he was trying to do.
00:25:21
Ryan
Oh,
00:25:26
Shauna (she/her)
But, ha ha, I'm really a girl. You're right. Nailed it
00:25:29
Anthony
yeah ah The joke is on him again.
00:25:32
Shauna (she/her)
Broken clock right twice a day right here. Good for you.
00:25:35
Ryan
right. And don't forget it. I forgot about that. Text the character that ended up being a girl. i
00:25:40
Anthony
Yeah.
00:25:41
Shauna (she/her)
Because I was really good at it.
00:25:41
Ryan
but I totally remember that.
00:25:42
Anthony
Right. Yeah. Her voice changer shorts out.
00:25:44
Shauna (she/her)
That's stupid.
00:25:44
Anthony
But yeah, she like kicks everybody's ass. And she's like, yeah, she's like the the super the the only one who's like actually competent in the entire ah cast.
00:25:51
Ryan
Surprise.
00:25:52
Anthony
And Sheila.
00:25:52
Ryan
Surprise.
00:25:53
Anthony
Sheila's the best waifu.
00:25:55
Shauna (she/her)
Thank
00:25:55
Ryan
My word. i the last The only reason I thought of it was because you two were talking about Halo and because, not to continuously reference you know this trip that we went on 20 years ago, but i remember watching Red vs.
00:26:08
Ryan
Blue on my portable DVD player in the back of your parents' car driving a fridge.
00:26:13
Anthony
Yup. Yup.
00:26:15
Ryan
My word.
00:26:15
Shauna (she/her)
you
00:26:15
Ryan
How did we pass that time? We were so fucking bored.
00:26:19
Anthony
We didn't know any better.
00:26:20
Ryan
Oh, warm.
00:26:20
Anthony
but we had We had a fucking portable DVD player. We were we were basically, that was peak, peak technology in, you know, and now we are old and I am bald and here we are still gaming and going on trips together.
00:26:24
Ryan
T.
00:26:25
Shauna (she/her)
That's pretty good.
00:26:29
Ryan
True. And now we are old. um
00:26:37
Anthony
So some things never change.
00:26:38
Ryan
Yeah. um The other thing that we want to talk about, Daredevil, Born Again, is Up and Running and Born Again.
00:26:45
Shauna (she/her)
And again.
00:26:48
Ryan
um Sean, you are the the Daredevil expert between betwixt us.
00:26:52
Anthony
Thank you.
00:26:53
Ryan
um what are your What's your take on Daredevil so far?
00:26:58
Shauna (she/her)
I've been loving it. Honestly, it's been so good. i love the interplay, the the similarities and the parallels in the journey of Wilson Fisk and Matt Murdock as they both grapple with no longer being Kingpin and Daredevil.
00:27:14
Shauna (she/her)
And I think that's such an interesting... journey that they're having I love that they didn't fridge Karen Page which I was really worried about and I'm still not entirely out of the woods on that one i feel like I could absolutely see that being a like oh that that's what actually happens like I don't know how spoiler or heavy we want to go in but like I feel like
00:27:34
Ryan
Yeah. Yeah, I mean, we can just make sure that we add a ah spoiler.
00:27:40
Shauna (she/her)
Yeah, because this isn't a spoiler.
00:27:40
Ryan
This is your formal spoiler warning.
00:27:41
Shauna (she/her)
This is just my pure supposition, just knowing that there's a very, again, bringing it actually back to our topic of today, there's a very famous Daredevil story where Bullseye kills Karen Page.
00:27:48
Ryan
Right.
00:27:53
Ryan
Right.
00:27:53
Shauna (she/her)
And it's called, and it's written by Kevin Smith.
00:27:59
Ryan
Oh, shit.
00:27:59
Shauna (she/her)
And it's called Guardian Devil.
00:27:59
Ryan
How funny is that?
00:28:01
Shauna (she/her)
Yeah.
00:28:01
Ryan
How funny is that?
00:28:02
Shauna (she/her)
and yeah And it's so pretty because it's drawn by Brian Michael Bendis, and I really like his art style.
00:28:06
Ryan
Mm-hmm.
00:28:07
Shauna (she/her)
That kind of like really, like, cartoon.
00:28:07
Ryan
Same.
00:28:09
Shauna (she/her)
And so, yeah. So written by Kevin Smith, drawn by Brian Michael Bendis. ah One of my favorite. It's such a good Daredevil story. like It's a great trade paperback if you ever want to pick it up, in my opinion. Oh.
00:28:18
Anthony
Thank you.
00:28:18
Ryan
Yes. Okay, really quickly, since this is also a you know, intersection of social justice and pop culture, what is fridging? Shauna, you mentioned that. What does it mean to fridge a character?
00:28:28
Shauna (she/her)
oh Of course. So fridging is a term that is coined by comic book writer Gail Simone, which refers to the common practice of killing off a female character for the sole purpose of advancing a male character in her life's story.
00:28:47
Shauna (she/her)
yeah Most famously done to the girlfriend of Green Lantern Kyle Rayner, where he literally found his girlfriend in the refrigerator.
00:28:58
Ryan
Fun fact, you know, a fun not maybe not so fun fact, but um yeah, it's ah it is an extremely common trope that we see in most of our favorite forms of media.
00:29:01
Shauna (she/her)
You
00:29:08
Shauna (she/her)
you know, and and it's not as prevalent as it's been historic as it was because people like Gail Simone brought attention to it.
00:29:12
Ryan
Mm-hmm.
00:29:14
Shauna (she/her)
And I thought and really moved the conversation forward 20 years ago would and to where it is now not as common, but still a very popular,
00:29:26
Shauna (she/her)
you know, thing that happens for better or worse. And, you know, it's just going to be like, Oh, how do we get to the hero? Well, we heard someone in his life.
00:29:33
Ryan
Right.
00:29:34
Shauna (she/her)
And again,
00:29:34
Ryan
Right. And it's like, it's a, it's a trope because it's a tactic that works. And it is unfortunately, um historically was like, okay, well, oh great. We have a woman let, we have a ah character in the forefront. That's a woman.
00:29:51
Ryan
only for her to then be killed and you know used as motivation. But at the end of the day, like Shauna said, there's still a specific tactic that's behind it. So here and now, looking at you know the type of media we have access to, it is a little bit easier to see see characters die and not just be like okay well you know Karen Page also was on the entirety of the original run of Daredevil on ah Netflix so like killing her off if they do kill her off it's not like she didn't have a really interesting story she wasn't a full character like she had a lot of really cool shit that she did in her run so I don't want her to die but
00:30:30
Ryan
Um, it does, it would make sense if that was the final motivating, motivating factor specifically because as we were talking earlier, Sean, realized, um, we still haven't seen him. We only saw him in the daredevil suit in a retrospective at the beginning of the first episode.
00:30:47
Ryan
Um, But he has yet to put the suit back on, which does kind of mirror what the original run on Netflix was. He didn't actually wear their Daredevil suit until like the second or third season.
00:30:58
Ryan
But that was like a big point of like, can we just see the fucking suit already? So I'm very excited for his new suit. That is the one thing that I'm ready for.
00:31:06
Shauna (she/her)
We love a suit reveal.
00:31:07
Ryan
We love a suit reveal.
00:31:08
Shauna (she/her)
Outfit choices are always great. and
00:31:10
Ryan
um So let's jump into our topic of the day. Again, we are talking about the View Askewniverse.
00:31:18
Anthony
Thank you.
00:31:20
Ryan
So we've already done Clerks. We're doing Mallrats and Jay and Silent Bob. There's Chasing Amy. There's Dogma. is there ah I know Jane Silent Bob had like a reboot, but Anthony, what's your like, what are your key memories of those films growing up?
00:31:38
Ryan
um what What do you associate them with? How did you how did you get hit to them?
00:31:44
Anthony
Well, for Jay and Silent Bob specifically, and why I am the esteemed guest on this particular episode, is that we absolutely watched that movie for the first time in your bedroom at a sleepover, and...
00:31:59
Anthony
I walked away from that movie believing two things. That Jay was maybe the coolest person and funniest human being I'd ever experienced in my 12 years on planet Earth. And Eliza Dushku was the hottest woman I'd ever seen in my life.
00:32:13
Ryan
Period. To this fucking day.
00:32:14
Anthony
Done. Yeah. Spoilers.
00:32:16
Ryan
Still my number one bitch.
00:32:18
Anthony
Spoilers for later. But yeah. That catsuit, woof. My lord.
00:32:21
Ryan
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:32:22
Anthony
In heaven. Ha ha ha ha ha.
00:32:23
Ryan
we We were in love with that scene for very different reasons. ah i
00:32:28
Anthony
Ha ha ha ha ha.
00:32:29
Ryan
love a slow-mo click walk. I love needlessly big hair. I love women feeling themselves. And they are all also objectively super fucking hot. So it worked for, you know, it worked for both of us.
00:32:39
Anthony
Not wrong.
00:32:42
Ryan
um
00:32:43
Anthony
Fun for the whole family, right?
00:32:44
Ryan
Fun for the whole family. But um what about the other ones?
00:32:46
Shauna (she/her)
And whereas I thought both of those things is the
00:32:49
Ryan
Yes, correct.
00:32:49
Anthony
yeah
00:32:50
Ryan
Shawna, historical bisexual slut, was really thrilled about all of it.
00:32:54
Shauna (she/her)
yes and.
00:32:55
Ryan
Yes, and. um What about the other movies, Anthony? Have you seen the rest?
00:32:59
Anthony
Yeah, yeah. So um big shout out to Clerks 2. Clerks 2 is probably my favorite Kevin Smith movie, but I definitely remember going and seeing that with the boys in high school.
00:33:06
Shauna (she/her)
Interesting.
00:33:09
Anthony
And oh my gosh, the like the Lord of the Rings, like when he makes the Lord of the Rings guy vomit, or when he's talking about there only being one return and it's of the Jedi, like just all time shit.
00:33:10
Ryan
Yeah.
00:33:18
Anthony
So good.
00:33:19
Ryan
Yeah. Yeah.
00:33:19
Anthony
um But that's off topic and not the movie we were discussing. Mallrats, I didn't see until high college, but um I definitely... watched Jay and Silent Bob like multiple times throughout that run that was like peak Anthony started smoking weed and so now he is going to watch Kevin Smith movies like era of my life so I did go back and watch like Clerks 1 at that point in my life and Mallrats and blah blah but yeah
00:33:36
Ryan
yeah
00:33:48
Anthony
so many quotes from these movies that as I was watching them, like there's as a dad, like anytime I go to the mall and I see a kid on the escalator, you better fucking believe in my mind that the kid is back on the escalator.
00:33:50
Ryan
Yes.
00:33:58
Shauna (she/her)
Yeah, yeah.
00:34:00
Ryan
Incredible.
00:34:01
Anthony
Like, yeah, absolutely. So it was a great nostalgia trip.
00:34:04
Ryan
incredible
00:34:05
Anthony
We watched it of last week. It was, ah it was a lot of fun.
00:34:08
Ryan
It was. um ah Sidebar, also, yeah, I don't even think i realized this until earlier. um Anthony, your oldest and Shauna's a kid are, like, around the same age, I think. Like, seven-ish somewhere plus.
00:34:19
Anthony
Yeah, Mallory is seven. She'll be eight in May.
00:34:21
Ryan
Yeah.
00:34:21
Shauna (she/her)
yeah yeah
00:34:22
Ryan
Yeah, really wild also. um Shauna, what about you? what's what you You talked a little bit about this on the Clerks episode, but what was your view askewniverse? Like, specifically Mallrats, Jay and Silent Bob.
00:34:35
Shauna (she/her)
So like for Mallrats especially, it was, that was probably my favorite movie in high school.
00:34:41
Ryan
Mm-hmm.
00:34:41
Shauna (she/her)
Very defining for like the last like two years.
00:34:41
Ryan
Mm-hmm.
00:34:44
Shauna (she/her)
Cause like when I was in high school was when Dogma came out. And so that was very much the, like, I remember debating it with like my theology teacher, like, and like where it like became a lot, like we may ended up making a lesson because we were, cause he was like that kind of grumpy theology teacher.
00:35:01
Shauna (she/her)
Yeah. But then, but for mall rats, my gosh, like, going to the mall was, like, such a, like, activity for me. It was very relatable.
00:35:11
Shauna (she/her)
The comic book nerdiness, the discussions that they had with each other were so, like, ugh, it was so good.
00:35:18
Ryan
Yeah. were you you So you were a mall rat, Shauna?
00:35:23
Shauna (she/her)
Yeah, absolutely.
00:35:25
Ryan
I don't think we were ever really mall rats, Anthony, were we?
00:35:27
Anthony
No, i think I think the few times that we did go to Parmatown Mall, Brittany was always stealing stuff.
00:35:31
Ryan
my god.
00:35:32
Anthony
And so I think she kind of soured us on the experience of going to malls.
00:35:32
Ryan
Oh my god.
00:35:33
Shauna (she/her)
ah
00:35:33
Ryan
Oh my god. Oh my god. god open Oh god.
00:35:36
Shauna (she/her)
ah
00:35:36
Anthony
Yeah.
00:35:37
Shauna (she/her)
See, whereas when they built South Park Mall right by me, that was...
00:35:37
Ryan
Oh god.
00:35:39
Anthony
But no, we were, yeah, we were like, we were like hanging out, riding bikes around the neighborhood, sleepovers, playing video games, ordering pizzas, like renting movies from Blockbuster.
00:35:42
Ryan
yeah
00:35:47
Ryan
Yeah.
00:35:50
Anthony
When we hung out, we didn't like go to the mall to hang out because we lived two minutes away from each other. Like we could just walk to each other's houses or ride our bikes over.
00:35:56
Ryan
Right.
00:35:57
Anthony
So we never had to like meet at a second location to hang because we always just hung kind of around the neighborhood.
00:36:03
Ryan
Right.
00:36:05
Anthony
Right.
00:36:06
Ryan
Yeah, I'm also thinking there were definitely, I feel like in later middle school, early high school, when it started being like, and maybe even specifically like like later high school, where our friend groups became a little more mixed gendered.
00:36:20
Ryan
Like I definitely have memories of like going to the mall and like hanging out. But I can really only remember like two specific experiences, one of which ah It was not with you, Anthony, but it was with a friend of mine growing up, Jocelyn, and her sister and my sister, and they all stole from Claire's.
00:36:39
Ryan
ah And then also hanging out with, like, Abby Driver from middle school days. i don't know if that name...
00:36:46
Anthony
That's a name drop. Holy.
00:36:48
Ryan
Yeah, yeah. um I remember going to the mall with her and some of her friends and... You know, they were all kind of like the the, not bad kids, but like, you know, they were a little misbehaved. Like, they were the alt kids. And I'm pretty sure we definitely stole them, too.
00:37:04
Ryan
stealing.
00:37:05
Shauna (she/her)
Thank you.
00:37:06
Anthony
i like i wasn't I wasn't there, but I have this mental image of of teenager Ryan like hanging out in front of South Park Mall smoking cigarettes with the goth kids that we went to high school with after shoplifting.
00:37:14
Ryan
Yep. 100%. 100%. ah drinker hundred per Yeah, 100%. um Parmatown Mall, though, actually, so I worked at Journeys the summer between our fresh earth junior and senior year in high school, and um I was dating this girl, Olivia, that had worked at ah the Arabica in North Royalton, because that was that you know that was our coffee shop, but Um, my sister caught me smoking cigarettes, walking out of work one night.
00:37:45
Ryan
Cause I had stolen a cigarette. I like bummed a cigarette from one of my coworkers. And she, she also had worked at the mall as a teenager. She's like, I never would have had the guts to smoke before going home. Like blah, blah, blah. i was like, well, I don't give a fuck. I'm the youngest.
00:37:58
Ryan
Can I bum a cigarette please? Cause you also smoke at this point in our history. So give me a cigarette. Um, But yeah, I never, like, I went to the mall today and I didn't, I did see some kids like running around, but you know, they have other stuff to do, I guess, like be on their
00:38:15
Shauna (she/her)
I think it's not that they have other stuff to do. I think it's the elimination of third spaces generally in our society. I think they've been absolutely discouraged from being at malls, that being a mall rat isn't really a thing because they don't want you there.
00:38:28
Shauna (she/her)
They want you to get in and get out, which is part of the reason why then people just aren't getting into malls anymore.
00:38:30
Ryan
Yeah.
00:38:34
Ryan
Exactly.
00:38:34
Shauna (she/her)
Let's be honest. Because malls are a dying...
00:38:35
Ryan
So is so terrible.
00:38:36
Shauna (she/her)
Like, Parmatown doesn't exist, and South Park and Great Northern are both shells of themselves.
00:38:38
Anthony
Oh, yeah.
00:38:42
Anthony
Oh, yeah, the the shops now are South Parker.
00:38:42
Shauna (she/her)
Let's be honest.
00:38:45
Anthony
Tragic. Yeah.
00:38:46
Ryan
Really?
00:38:46
Shauna (she/her)
Oh yeah, they have to change they're having to re-change their zoning to make it so that you can have things that aren't just retail there because they need to do something to get people there because there just isn't enough reason with stores.
00:38:46
Ryan
i haven't been in that mall in so long.
00:38:59
Ryan
When that South Park mall went up in whatever year it went up that you would have thought like every person in the suburbs was given like a golden ticket to the Wonka factory. Like it was so, i just remember being like, holy shit, this place is huge because Parmatown was, you know, vast, but it was not two stories.
00:39:25
Ryan
South Park was two fucking stories. And then like the department stores had more than two stores. Like, It was the shit. And then they got a movie theater towards the end of high school.
00:39:37
Ryan
It's good thing we were out of our mall days.
00:39:37
Shauna (she/her)
Remember the Smithsonian store?
00:39:40
Ryan
ah Oh, are you sure you don't mean the science store? the
00:39:43
Shauna (she/her)
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:39:43
Ryan
the I didn't know it had a name. It was just the science store to me.
00:39:47
Shauna (she/her)
It was like the WVIZ store, I think, it actually, is what it was.
00:39:49
Anthony
Yes!
00:39:49
Ryan
Yeah.
00:39:51
Anthony
Yes.
00:39:51
Shauna (she/her)
That's what it was.
00:39:51
Ryan
Yes. At Great Northern.
00:39:53
Shauna (she/her)
Yeah, or no, at south I think it was at South Park. was There was one...
00:39:57
Ryan
so I don't remember that.
00:39:58
Shauna (she/her)
There was one at there was a thing a Smithsonian was at Great Northern, but South Park had that WVIZ store that I just remember was like the coolest place in the world.
00:40:09
Ryan
I do remember those.
00:40:10
Shauna (she/her)
Because there was the Rainforest store.
00:40:12
Ryan
Yeah.
00:40:12
Shauna (she/her)
oh my gosh. Malls used to be great. Wait, let's, I hate that that that we can't even say shit like that.
00:40:15
Ryan
Malls used to be great.
00:40:18
Shauna (she/her)
I was like, oh man, what a terrible adjective. Things shouldn't be great again.
00:40:22
Ryan
No.
00:40:22
Shauna (she/her)
Let's keep them in the past.
00:40:22
Ryan
you Make malls great again. yeah We got kind of fucked up with that.
00:40:24
Shauna (she/her)
That's where i was like, no, I can't fucking say that shit. Fuck that. Like, damn it.
00:40:27
Ryan
Yeah. Bring back malls. Bring back my malls. So... so
00:40:33
Shauna (she/her)
Mall Madness.
00:40:35
Ryan
As we continue talking about malls, let's um jump into the the first part of our...
00:40:42
Shauna (she/her)
Yeah, wait.
00:40:43
Ryan
ah
00:40:43
Shauna (she/her)
Edentown Prairie or Midlow Park?
00:40:45
Ryan
Oh, I don't remember. Those both sound so familiar. What the fuck? What are those?
00:40:48
Shauna (she/her)
Those are the two malls in Mallrats. Edentown Prairie being the main mall and Midlow Park being the dirt mall.
00:40:53
Ryan
Yes. The dirt mall, right.
00:40:55
Anthony
the flea market
00:40:57
Ryan
Yes, there were so many things.
00:40:57
Shauna (she/her)
Yes.
00:40:57
Anthony
yeah
00:40:58
Ryan
I forgot about that whole fucking section of the movie.
00:40:59
Shauna (she/her)
as they As they called it. and
00:41:02
Ryan
Like, I remembered the beginning half.
00:41:03
Shauna (she/her)
with the Well, so the basis of Mallrats is where this transsexual...
00:41:04
Ryan
And yes, Ivana, the topless fortune teller.
00:41:07
Anthony
yeah that was I could not remember that either yeah it's funny
00:41:08
Ryan
Like, I saw the sign. I was like, whoa, wow. um So Shauna, tell us about the the basics of Mallrats.
00:41:23
Shauna (she/her)
Oh wait, I'm sorry, his name's Justyess.
00:41:26
Ryan
Right, exactly.
00:41:26
Shauna (she/her)
um My bad. and
00:41:27
Ryan
It's just TS.
00:41:28
Shauna (she/her)
i got confused.
00:41:28
Ryan
It doesn't stand for transsexual, but it is TS.
00:41:30
Shauna (she/her)
Oh, okay.
00:41:31
Ryan
And it's not Elliot.
00:41:32
Shauna (she/her)
That's actually the sequel to Mallrats that they never came out with, unfortunately.
00:41:35
Ryan
Yeah, unfortunately.
00:41:35
Shauna (she/her)
Really, we just left lot on the table there. But anyways, so T.S.
00:41:39
Ryan
Yeah.
00:41:40
Shauna (she/her)
Quint is dating Brandy Svenning, whose father is running a game show and also is a future guardian of the galaxy. and And so they...
00:41:52
Shauna (she/her)
The dad's, um... but the mo What's Yondu? Yondu.
00:41:56
Ryan
yeah totally he sure the fuck is holy is shit wow
00:41:59
Shauna (she/her)
He's Yondu, yeah. Yeah, Yondu is the father that you get to see fucking butt-ass naked. And so...
00:42:05
Ryan
oh again had my attention right away i was like dude butts in continue sorry
00:42:11
Shauna (she/her)
Yeah, you got to see Yondu's ass, like... Anyways, so other... Reaver ass aside, we then go, she, this daughter now has to be on his game show. That's this dating show at the mall.
00:42:24
Shauna (she/her)
And, you know, they get in a fight as, you know, young college age or just post college aged kids do. yeah I think they're all like 21, like 2021 the, what I kind of got the impression.
00:42:34
Ryan
20 something, Yeah,
00:42:36
Anthony
Yeah, like in college or in, yeah.
00:42:37
Shauna (she/her)
And so bo Or should have been, but they dropped out or something.
00:42:41
Anthony
Exactly.
00:42:41
Shauna (she/her)
Like, it felt that kind of.
00:42:41
Ryan
yeah, yeah.
00:42:43
Shauna (she/her)
And so, no, they end up breaking up. And sure enough, then Brody Bruce, played by Jason Lee, and his girlfriend, played by Shannon Doherty, whose name is, um... Oh, gosh, what is her name?
00:42:54
Ryan
Everyone note, her name's Renee.
00:42:57
Anthony
Renee, yep.
00:42:57
Shauna (she/her)
Renee, thank you.
00:42:58
Ryan
Yeah, yeah. Everyone, Shannon Doherty is my fucking bitch, man. I love Shannon Doherty so fucking much, man.
00:43:04
Shauna (she/her)
She's great.
00:43:06
Anthony
That monologue when she gives, when she dumps Brody, throwing fucking a hundred.
00:43:07
Ryan
RIP.
00:43:09
Ryan
Yeah.
00:43:10
Anthony
Because I actually made a note that the that the acting in the T.S.
00:43:11
Ryan
Yeah.
00:43:13
Anthony
Brady scene was like, oh no, how long is this movie?
00:43:16
Ryan
Yeah.
00:43:16
Anthony
This is rough. But then that happens. I'm like, oh, Shannon Doherty, let's fucking go. Like, we got some actors.
00:43:21
Ryan
yeah
00:43:21
Anthony
Here we go.
00:43:21
Shauna (she/her)
Yeah. The person that...
00:43:23
Ryan
Masterclass, truly.
00:43:24
Shauna (she/her)
change it that Charts the plane the plane's flight path. The navigator.
00:43:32
Ryan
um I did also notice that Shayna Doherty got top billing in the cast at the end. She was the first on the credits, so...
00:43:36
Shauna (she/her)
Yeah. That is an interesting... like
00:43:40
Ryan
Reserved.
00:43:41
Shauna (she/her)
But yeah, so then her and her, you know, stoner, lazy, lives in his mom's basement, like, and she has to sneak in like, Brody, they break up as well.
00:43:52
Shauna (she/her)
And so now our two protagonists are girlfriendless and are now spending the day at the mall, as you do.
00:43:53
Ryan
Mm-hmm.
00:44:00
Shauna (she/her)
Because where're what else would you do?
00:44:00
Ryan
Mm-hmm. So let's, let's start there. Let's, let's pause there and, and talk so about what we've seen so far. um First and foremost, I wouldn't sleep in that bed either. Jason Lee, you fucking prick. That is a child's twin size bed.
00:44:18
Ryan
Grow up. I would have left his ass the first time I went there and he was like, this is my bed. i would have said, I'm gone.
00:44:25
Shauna (she/her)
I think there's no sneaking in a second time through that window.
00:44:29
Ryan
Correct.
00:44:30
Shauna (she/her)
That is a one time, okay, now we've got to meet or this is not okay.
00:44:30
Ryan
Correct. Correct.
00:44:35
Shauna (she/her)
And, you know, maybe again, I'm just a little um sensitive to being someone's secret.
00:44:36
Ryan
yeah
00:44:41
Shauna (she/her)
So I have like, not going to fuck with that.
00:44:41
Ryan
Yeah.
00:44:43
Shauna (she/her)
Like, that's not absolutely not like get out of here.
00:44:44
Ryan
Yeah.
00:44:48
Anthony
I mean, all I'm saying is that with the very little that Brody had going for him, the dickhead have just been exceptional, that she kept climbing back into his mom's basement for his shitty twin bed.
00:44:48
Ryan
and
00:44:57
Anthony
I mean, there's something there, right?
00:44:57
Shauna (she/her)
That's true.
00:44:57
Ryan
yeah
00:44:59
Shauna (she/her)
Well, you know what?
00:44:59
Ryan
I don't know, because she also comments on it later.
00:44:59
Shauna (she/her)
But like, who does... I love a...
00:45:02
Ryan
She said, when a girl says it's a good size, she definitely, i mean, I guess a good size and it being good dick are completely unrelated to each other.
00:45:11
Shauna (she/her)
Yeah.
00:45:11
Ryan
ah
00:45:12
Shauna (she/her)
It's a nice way of saying it's small.
00:45:12
Ryan
Maybe. Yeah, i I don't think that um it's the dick. Maybe. Maybe it's maybe it's the dick. Maybe it's the dick.
00:45:22
Shauna (she/her)
No, he's carrying...
00:45:22
Ryan
I don't know.
00:45:23
Anthony
some combination of self-loathing and the dick, like 70-30 self-loathing and dick.
00:45:23
Shauna (she/her)
No, no, no. I know that star... I know that nerd.
00:45:28
Ryan
Yeah, yeah.
00:45:28
Shauna (she/her)
Yeah.
00:45:29
Ryan
The dick wasn't that great, but she didn't like herself enough.
00:45:29
Shauna (she/her)
He is charismatic. as
00:45:32
Ryan
Mm-hmm.
00:45:32
Shauna (she/her)
When he's on, he is very on. He's very charismatic. He's very charming. But unfortunately, it's hard to maintain that sometimes when you don't have anything else.
00:45:37
Ryan
True.
00:45:42
Shauna (she/her)
And so it's not enough. But that is why.
00:45:45
Ryan
Yep.
00:45:45
Anthony
Yeah. But Hartford, the whale, they only beat Vancouver like once or twice in a lifetime.
00:45:46
Shauna (she/her)
but
00:45:49
Anthony
He is correct about that. Like...
00:45:52
Shauna (she/her)
great so fucking great.
00:45:53
Anthony
I don't know.
00:45:53
Shauna (she/her)
Yes!
00:45:55
Ryan
The writing in this is um really verbose, but really good. And I think I said that about Clerks, too. and They figured it out once they got to... like ah There was a noticeable difference between Jane, Silent Bob, and Mallrats.
00:46:11
Ryan
But like no one... The way that they talk just feels like a really funny writer gave them really good lines. But it it always felt like they were kind of...
00:46:23
Ryan
Didn't feel like it. It was just so verbose.
00:46:24
Shauna (she/her)
They were line reading.
00:46:26
Ryan
It was line reading and it was believable and it was great and it was well written. But, you know, there's like a couple of interactions where it's like, this literally is like, no one went through, no one read pen, this shit. Like you have three more words in here than you need to be. And it's drawing these interactions to the point of like,
00:46:45
Ryan
okay, these are really long conversations about absolutely nothing. But that's that that was just my one note slash take on the general um writing of the movie is really funny, could be more succinct.
00:47:00
Shauna (she/her)
But how the hell else am I supposed to get the cat out?
00:47:00
Anthony
I wonder if that's...
00:47:00
Ryan
What? Right, right, right.
00:47:07
Ryan
And also, so I think, do do you remember, is the girl that died that was Brandy's cousin and the reason that Brandy has to go on the show, is that the girl that died in Clerks?
00:47:22
Shauna (she/her)
Yes, it is. And that's why they have to go to the funeral is for that same girl.
00:47:23
Ryan
That's the connection.
00:47:26
Ryan
Yes. So this is happening. They're happening simultaneously.
00:47:31
Shauna (she/her)
Yeah, yeah, it's all in the same era with the same, like, high school graduating class. So actually, it's very appropriate that you two are on. Like, it has a very similar vibe of, like, a, like...
00:47:38
Ryan
Yeah.
00:47:40
Shauna (she/her)
this kind of small town, everyone knows each other.
00:47:41
Ryan
All these people know each other. Mm-hmm.
00:47:43
Shauna (she/her)
yeah absolutely. Like, can you see that in the next movie too? Which by the way, I was thinking, I think the dialogue doesn't get any less verbose as much as the actors when it's, cause Ben Affleck is good, is capable of good acting and, you know, and I love Joey Lauren Adams and i think Jason Lee even does a great job too.
00:47:54
Ryan
Mm-hmm. So
00:48:00
Ryan
cute.
00:48:00
Shauna (she/her)
Like, but giving the better actors, those kinds of lines that are able to do a little more with it.
00:48:06
Ryan
There was definitely a noticeable it improvement between Mallrats and Jane Silent Bob with Jason Lee's acting. Because if you notice, Jason Lee's acting was just, he got louder.
00:48:18
Ryan
Like that, every every line read was just like regular volume, intensified volume, super loud volume. And that's where the the punchline is almost always buried.
00:48:29
Ryan
So like, sometimes I was like, is he funny or is he loud?
00:48:31
Shauna (she/her)
See, I've gotten in many arguments with comic book nerds that follow that same pattern, so actually that's just true to form.
00:48:33
Ryan
Which, same.
00:48:40
Shauna (she/her)
I think that was just really the nature of, yeah, that that was actually just playing the part.
00:48:40
Ryan
Sure. That was good casting. Yeah.
00:48:45
Shauna (she/her)
That was acting.
00:48:46
Ryan
Yep. Okay, got it. Good call. Good call. The other thing before we actually enter into the mall, did you peep some of the names of those stores, by the way?
00:48:55
Anthony
i wrote down I wrote down rug munchers.
00:48:56
Shauna (she/her)
Oh yeah, absolutely.
00:48:58
Ryan
Yes. um Rug Munchers. Oh, I didn't write down any of the names. I just write LOL the store names. um One of them was, fuck, Popular Girl. And it's just like a girl in a bra and a skirt. And she's like, oh, she literally looks like a full blow up doll.
00:49:19
Ryan
um But that store was called Popular Girl.
00:49:23
Shauna (she/her)
Fashionable male, aka Express. Like...
00:49:25
Ryan
Yes,
00:49:26
Anthony
Thank
00:49:27
Ryan
Fashionable male. What a wild time. What a wild time. Okay, take us into the mall. Let's tell what happens next.
00:49:33
Shauna (she/her)
Okay. Well, they of course meet everyone's favorite, Jay and Silent Bob, who are in, i think, really great form. They are given just free reign for hijinks and shenanigans.
00:49:41
Ryan
Yes.
00:49:45
Ryan
Yes.
00:49:45
Shauna (she/her)
They're trying to break up this game show that's being filmed at their beloved mall, taking up all of this space, construction. It's a real problem. And so now they're on a mission, except there's the security guard, LaForge.
00:49:57
Shauna (she/her)
Wait, you know LaForge? You know LaForge is, right?
00:50:00
Ryan
Is he? He looked very familiar.
00:50:01
Shauna (she/her)
They don't know LaForge is.
00:50:03
Ryan
Oh, shut up, Sean.
00:50:03
Shauna (she/her)
Yeah. Yeah.
00:50:04
Ryan
Damn it. Who is the actor that played the fours?
00:50:05
Anthony
Ha ha ha.
00:50:07
Shauna (she/her)
Oh, I have no idea. I'm just going to keep making Mallrats quotes.
00:50:10
Ryan
Yeah, no, keep it up.
00:50:11
Shauna (she/her)
that's
00:50:11
Ryan
You're doing great.
00:50:12
Shauna (she/her)
That's... That's where I'm at.
00:50:14
Anthony
Ha
00:50:14
Ryan
Uh-huh.
00:50:15
Ryan
So we meet Jay Silent Bob.
00:50:15
Shauna (she/her)
But yeah, and so... So we meet Jay and Silent Bob, and, you know, you get an imitation of Wolverine's Berserker rage, which I think is a great, like, shnickety-shnickety-shtot...
00:50:27
Anthony
ha.
00:50:28
Shauna (she/her)
just so good at making it seem so, like, they're they're so in the culture, like, so very much, like, written by nerds, and, you know, I love all of these, like, pieces that go into it.
00:50:33
Anthony
Yeah.
00:50:33
Ryan
Yes.
00:50:40
Shauna (she/her)
And then you find out that Stan Lee's even going to be at this mall, which is, I think, a great cameo.
00:50:47
Ryan
Agreed.
00:50:48
Shauna (she/her)
Ugh.
00:50:48
Ryan
What, first,
00:50:49
Anthony
i did i was tickled I was tickled by ah the hit the reference to Silent Bob's like ah mechanical geniuses that he turned his mom's vibrator into a CD player for the science fair.
00:50:49
Shauna (she/her)
Let's see.
00:51:02
Anthony
It was just like a throwaway line that Jay said while they were good. I had to pause it because I was laughing so hard. was like, he did what now?
00:51:10
Ryan
I really cannot... I have to... what Like, you have to wonder how much how many of the lines specifically between Jay and Silent Bob or, like, the lines that Jay is delivering in those are, like, ad-libbed because the way the way that he, like, throws throws away some of the funniest lines is clearly intentional, but it's, like, it feels like, you know, they did that take four or five times to see which one was the funniest and, like, it's, like, that's the one that they landed on um because...
00:51:38
Ryan
Jason Mewes just has impeccable comedic timing. He's so fucking funny. They are, for just being like stonery nerd white boy characters, they are probably two of my favorite characters in, you know, like ah fiction intellectual property. I just have always loved James Allen Bob.
00:51:59
Shauna (she/her)
I agree. Like, they're, you know, there's just, like, an affability to them. a Like, even when they're being really crude, like, I think you see them, like, they were, like, a little rude in Clerks, but I think that kind of grows past that, like, into a different kind of, like, ways, like, in which I think is a really great evolution of the characters, and, oh, you're you're absolutely right, like, just such a great pop culture moment of that, the late 90s, early 2000s.
00:52:11
Ryan
Yeah.
00:52:18
Ryan
Agreed.
00:52:27
Anthony
Yeah. there is a There is a wholesome person underneath that just like several inches thick layer of sleaze that just encompasses Jay at all times.
00:52:28
Shauna (she/her)
ah
00:52:34
Ryan
Yeah. yeah
00:52:36
Anthony
But yeah there's a, yeah.
00:52:38
Ryan
Agreed.
00:52:38
Anthony
There's a cutie in there deep down.
00:52:38
Ryan
And he's like teachable. Yeah, he definitely, um he responds well when he's checked. Like, he's not toxic in this, like, yeah, he might say some weird shit, like, in Jane's on Bob, you know, when him and Shannon Elizabeth are talking, and he calls her a bitch, like, lovingly, and she's like, maybe because women don't like to be called bitches.
00:53:00
Ryan
He's like, they don't? Like, literally, it's not, it's not that he's a bad guy, he's just fucking stupid, and, you know, women probably don't want to talk to him for very long, but...
00:53:10
Shauna (she/her)
A great lesson on bringing people in
00:53:10
Ryan
Then he tried.
00:53:12
Shauna (she/her)
I think that's the...
00:53:12
Ryan
Yes.
00:53:13
Shauna (she/her)
yeah.
00:53:13
Ryan
and That's a call. And that's a call in. What a great job, Ally, Shannon Elizabeth. um Yeah, I like had to, I rewatched the Jade Silent Bob intro um in Mallrats because it was such a ah geekable moment. And I largely think they are why loved Mallrats so much when I was younger. Like the comedy is so funny.
00:53:36
Ryan
Watching um Brody and TS, like that part's funny, but like Shannon Doherty and James on Bob, that's that's what I'm here for in Mallrats, my favorites, my absolute favorites.
00:53:47
Shauna (she/her)
And that cover of Build Me Up Buttercup by the Goops.
00:53:51
Ryan
i You are such a weirdo with these soundtracks. Like I don't hear those things. I didn't, when did that happen?
00:53:56
Shauna (she/her)
Oh, that's the scene when they're having sex in the elevator. is there's It's the, why don't you build me up?
00:54:02
Anthony
yep
00:54:04
Shauna (she/her)
And it's that like...
00:54:05
Ryan
Didn't even notice that.
00:54:06
Shauna (she/her)
That's going on as they're like having it. And then it cuts to the outside where you see like Ben Affleck waiting. his shannon His character, Shannon Hamilton, who likes to have sex in very uncomfortable places, like the back of a Volkswagen.
00:54:13
Ryan
Yes. Very uncomfortable places.
00:54:19
Anthony
What, like the back of a Volkswagen?
00:54:19
Ryan
You back with Volkswagen?
00:54:19
Shauna (she/her)
Yeah.
00:54:20
Anthony
Yeah.
00:54:21
Ryan
Yeah. um Okay, so they they enlist Jane, Son, and Bob for help to try to break up this stage, and ah then they go off to get themselves a cookie from what used to be called...
00:54:27
Shauna (she/her)
Yeah.
00:54:34
Ryan
The Great Cookie Company, is that what it was in Parmatown?
00:54:38
Shauna (she/her)
No, it or it was the original cookie. It was the original cookie something, I think.
00:54:43
Anthony
company. I don't think it was a factory.
00:54:44
Shauna (she/her)
was it
00:54:45
Anthony
It was a company, but those cookies were absolutely fantastic.
00:54:46
Shauna (she/her)
Yeah.
00:54:49
Ryan
die for.
00:54:50
Anthony
Oh my gosh.
00:54:51
Ryan
Die for.
00:54:51
Anthony
The M&M ones.
00:54:53
Ryan
Yup.
00:54:53
Anthony
Yeah. Take me back.
00:54:54
Shauna (she/her)
They're not a part of the food court, though.
00:54:56
Anthony
No, it is.
00:54:56
Ryan
They are not.
00:54:57
Anthony
No, we all agree that that is,
00:54:58
Shauna (she/her)
They're autonomous eating stations.
00:55:00
Anthony
For midmma mid-mall snacking.
00:55:01
Ryan
For mid.
00:55:02
Anthony
Like the Auntie Anne's at South Park.
00:55:03
Shauna (she/her)
Absolutely.
00:55:03
Anthony
Yeah. now that is
00:55:04
Ryan
Yes.
00:55:05
Shauna (she/her)
Correct.
00:55:05
Anthony
that is not a hot take. Brody, dead on accurate. He won that argument, hands down.
00:55:09
Ryan
Yup.
00:55:09
Shauna (she/her)
Absolutely. You know what?
00:55:11
Ryan
And I like that all three of us committed that part to memory because it's like, yeah, he's right.
00:55:11
Anthony
Although I...
00:55:16
Ryan
That's not the food court. Like he's, he is correct. I, sometimes I need a mid mall snack. oh Oh, Annie Ann's. There's that bitch. Let me get pretzel.
00:55:24
Shauna (she/her)
yeah And he's probably also right that only someone like Wonder Woman has the ability to carry Superman's baby. i think that was also oh W for Brody.
00:55:34
Anthony
i do I distinctly remember having a very similar conversation about Dragon Ball Z and Vegeta impregnating Bulma.
00:55:44
Anthony
Very similar, like, like very nerdy.
00:55:47
Ryan
He's a Saiyan.
00:55:47
Anthony
like Like, how does the biology of this transpire? You know, like ah like a human woman, like, yeah, the Prince of Saiyans baby inside.
00:55:54
Ryan
She can't take that nut.
00:55:54
Anthony
It was very, very, you know, so that, yeah, that that ah that particular conversation, like being, so like, actually, like, we're going to math this out, guys. Like, how does this work?
00:56:03
Ryan
Serious about it.
00:56:04
Anthony
Yeah, like, yeah, very serious, yeah.
00:56:05
Ryan
Yes. 100%. hundred percent we're As Stan Lee says, I think he has a fixation on super superhero private parts or whatever he says.
00:56:15
Ryan
Superhero sex organs is the is the line that he used, which I thought was remarkable.
00:56:17
Anthony
Yes. Yes.
00:56:19
Ryan
Okay.
00:56:21
Shauna (she/her)
You know, it's an industry secret that what, you know, what is the case with Ben Grimm? I was thinking, he's...
00:56:27
Ryan
What is... What is it? Is it just...
00:56:29
Shauna (she/her)
What's he got...
00:56:30
Ryan
Is he a regular dick?
00:56:31
Shauna (she/her)
I think it's got to be smooth, right? Like, I think it's got to be, like, kind of like a, like a, like a Barbie Ken doll situation.
00:56:37
Ryan
Just no genitals.
00:56:39
Anthony
Oh.
00:56:39
Shauna (she/her)
i don't think so. Like, where would I, like...
00:56:41
Ryan
Nah.
00:56:42
Shauna (she/her)
I'm thinking, like, I think it's just, like, he's, like, he doesn't have a nose, like...
00:56:42
Ryan
Nah. I thought you meant his dick was like a smooth rock. You know, like maybe it's like...
00:56:48
Shauna (she/her)
Now, is the question, does is it an erogenous zone for him, I think is really the question. Because I could see it kind of being like its own, like, you know, canal kind of situation, like maybe.
00:56:53
Ryan
Wow.
00:56:57
Ryan
Jesus Christ.
00:56:57
Shauna (she/her)
like But I can't help but think...
00:56:58
Ryan
In Guido Canal, Shauna? What? Yeah.
00:57:01
Anthony
Yeah, like there's like there's just one particular rock down there that's the hot button, and if you find that it's game on.
00:57:05
Shauna (she/her)
Yeah, that...
00:57:05
Ryan
Yeah.
00:57:06
Shauna (she/her)
Oh, yeah.
00:57:07
Ryan
Yeah.
00:57:07
Anthony
Yeah.
00:57:07
Ryan
Yeah. Maybe it's that. Maybe there is a sex organ, but it's just like, you know, in the Hunger Games when um she sees Peeta's face like painted to look like a bunch of rocks, but then she like touches his face and his his eyes open.
00:57:12
Shauna (she/her)
Yeah.
00:57:22
Ryan
Maybe it's like that, but it's a wiener.
00:57:23
Shauna (she/her)
He's got eyes down there, you think?
00:57:24
Anthony
Yeah.
00:57:25
Ryan
Yeah. No, he's got a wiener down there, but it's a wiener.
00:57:26
Shauna (she/her)
Interesting. I don't know.
00:57:28
Ryan
It's a rock wiener. Okay. Anyways, superhero sex organs aside,
00:57:31
Shauna (she/her)
It's a rock wiener.
00:57:32
Ryan
ah
00:57:34
Shauna (she/her)
Oh,
00:57:37
Shauna (she/her)
thanks
00:57:38
Ryan
Okay, ah keep keep us moving along the plot. So they enlist Jay and Silent Bob.
00:57:42
Shauna (she/her)
oh yeah, of course. Well, then they write the... um Well, then, of course, we can't forget them meeting the very not-holds-up, underage sex book writer...
00:57:52
Ryan
Whoa. Okay, so now let's start with Trish the Dish.
00:57:53
Shauna (she/her)
Because
00:57:56
Ryan
Let's just take a moment to talk about how fucking wild that, nobody calls for that.
00:57:56
Anthony
Oh, my.
00:57:57
Shauna (she/her)
nobody calls her that.
00:58:00
Ryan
ah
00:58:00
Shauna (she/her)
thank
00:58:01
Ryan
ah Anthony, I know you said you took a bunch of notes. Did you have anything about Trish?
00:58:06
Anthony
ah not Trish specifically, because I was too busy starring and writing in all caps, that kid is back on the escalator, because that's when that happens. So, um my my under eight, you know, I don't know how old that actor is, but the schoolgirl uniform was working, but then it's like, oh, she's 15, Anthony, bad, like, straight to horny jail, like, whoops.
00:58:28
Ryan
Yeah, well...
00:58:30
Anthony
So, I'll cut, yeah.
00:58:30
Ryan
That woman is an adult. That is an adult woman playing a 15-year-old.
00:58:32
Anthony
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, so, ah yeah, roleplay unlocked for your boy. file that away for a rainy day.
00:58:40
Ryan
As Trish the Dish, specifically.
00:58:43
Anthony
yeah Yeah, something adjacent would would certainly get the get the juices going, I suppose.
00:58:45
Ryan
Yeah.
00:58:48
Anthony
But yeah, no, I definitely, like as the like I had already mentioned, that is like a quote from a movie that I routinely use in my existence.
00:58:49
Ryan
You're joking.
00:58:58
Anthony
And so I just, I got so geeked when it happened. And I, yeah, so I got sidetracked by that.
00:59:02
Ryan
I actually can think about you. I can hear you saying that in my voice and I don't think I remember a being from Mallrats.
00:59:07
Anthony
Because I will just say it at random fucking places where there's escalators that have kids on them.
00:59:11
Ryan
Yes.
00:59:12
Anthony
Like, even if the kids are being totally behaved, I just can't help myself.
00:59:12
Ryan
Yes.
00:59:15
Anthony
It's like, I just have to say it. So yeah, you have almost certainly heard me say
00:59:17
Ryan
Yes. i am.
00:59:18
Shauna (she/her)
yeah shut no shout out to my grade school best friend john holton who him and i would make those that reference at each other all the time as well and like we're we've been friends since kindergarten yeah like that is a line that like it's so uh
00:59:30
Ryan
It's just so funny.
00:59:35
Anthony
Yeah, he delivers it so perfectly, and yeah, I just my love it.
00:59:39
Ryan
And he's not even focused on the conversation either. i ru I'm sorry.
00:59:42
Anthony
No, not at all.
00:59:42
Ryan
I can't focus. I can't.
00:59:44
Anthony
She's talking to TS, and he's just like Hawkeye on the fucking escalator out of frame. Oh, it's so good.
00:59:49
Ryan
He's locked in. He's locked the fuck in about this kid on the escalator. But, okay, so i remember I remember not really under... Like, I don't know that that I've watched Mallrats since I was, you know, like a teenager or, like, since I was younger.
01:00:05
Ryan
So I don't really remember being as, like... I kind of feel like i recall being confused by like everything she was saying. Cause you know, it was supposed to sound super academic and you know, the, the male libido and whatever, but then listening to it now, I'm like, in what world would a publishing institution support underage sex with 20 grand and for this woman to commit multiple, to participate in multiple felonious crimes and doc document it and then write a book about it.
01:00:38
Shauna (she/her)
Like, and, you know, not being one to evict, but, like, I think that at the rate that you're like, no, I'm going out and sleeping with these adult men very intentionally is like, like, nobody's coming out good here.
01:00:50
Shauna (she/her)
That's all I'm saying.
01:00:50
Ryan
Right.
01:00:51
Shauna (she/her)
Like, nobody's winning.
01:00:52
Anthony
Thank you.
01:00:52
Ryan
Bad choices are being made.
01:00:53
Shauna (she/her)
Everyone's doing bad.
01:00:54
Ryan
Correct.
01:00:54
Shauna (she/her)
Yeah.
01:00:55
Ryan
Correct. Everyone's making bad choices. Um, but, uh, uh,
01:00:57
Shauna (she/her)
Like, shit, though. Like, ugh.
01:01:01
Ryan
Please, please, whatever you were gonna say after that shit, though.
01:01:03
Shauna (she/her)
Oh, I was going to say, i was this makes me think of...
Generational Differences and Personal Reflections
01:01:06
Shauna (she/her)
So I was i i went out dancing last night, right? And it was...
01:01:09
Ryan
Yeah.
01:01:12
Shauna (she/her)
ah one point I had the realization that I haven't been single longer than some of the people that have been alive.
01:01:20
Ryan
Yeah.
01:01:20
Shauna (she/her)
And that is weird.
01:01:23
Ryan
Mm-hmm.
01:01:23
Anthony
These are the realizations that we come to when we were 30 or 40 years old, right, Shauna?
01:01:23
Shauna (she/her)
Look, you...
01:01:27
Shauna (she/her)
It's very true. look All I'm saying is you can't forget 9-11 if you weren't there to remember it in the first place.
01:01:35
Ryan
Correct. I remember my cousin who was born in the year 2003 posting something on her Instagram on 9-11 like never forget. And I was like, you weren't alive to remember it.
01:01:46
Ryan
What do you mean never forget? That's not that's okay. This is how you know it's brainwashy patriotism and not actual sentiment.
01:01:51
Shauna (she/her)
Yeah. Yeah.
Queer and Trans Youth Today
01:01:53
Shauna (she/her)
But yeah, there was it was a lot of fun, and i just... that is a very, it's just the nature of, you know, what and I love it though.
01:02:02
Shauna (she/her)
I want, I'm so glad that all of these like young queer people, trans people, et cetera, are all out, you know, living their best life.
01:02:04
Ryan
Yeah. yeah. This
01:02:10
Shauna (she/her)
Like, you know, frankly, like I see why people are worried. i was like, you know what? Good. Cause we are fucking doing your shit. You know, i did worry. i did think at one point that magic, the gathering tournament was going to break out, but you know what?
01:02:21
Shauna (she/her)
That's still, that's all I, guess that's just the threat. That's the new normal in these days. And I, you know what? I love that. I accept it.
01:02:28
Ryan
and And you were actually worried because you didn't have your cards on you, not because you didn't want to see it.
01:02:33
Shauna (she/her)
Look, I gave that life up long ago, thank you very much.
01:02:33
Ryan
It's because you were unprepared.
01:02:35
Shauna (she/her)
we all have our vices, and never never will I ever have a Magic the Gathering collection.
01:02:43
Ryan
did Did MTG stick for you, Anthony?
01:02:46
Anthony
Um, I, I, I played it briefly, but no, I never like collected cards of my own.
01:02:50
Shauna (she/her)
o
01:02:52
Anthony
Like I knew how to play the game and I would occasionally play with a couple individual friends and they'd be like, here, use this deck. And then I would just get absolutely shithoused by them.
Gaming and Friendship
01:03:01
Anthony
Cause I was like, Oh, I do this.
01:03:02
Anthony
What? Like, but, um, tangentially related, I have taught Mallory how to play the Pokemon card game and we have like decks and stuff and we battle a against each other.
01:03:04
Shauna (she/her)
ah but
01:03:09
Shauna (she/her)
o
01:03:10
Ryan
As you should.
01:03:11
Shauna (she/her)
Same, that's...
01:03:13
Anthony
Yeah. And she,
01:03:13
Shauna (she/her)
That I think is like our like future summer. Like we we dabbled in it a bit about a year ago with ours. And I think it's like, it was a little too much. Like it was like right on the edge where it was like all the math made sense, but I think it was like a little, needed a little more reading.
01:03:29
Shauna (she/her)
And so now I feel like we're going really like blossom this summer.
01:03:30
Anthony
Yeah, yeah.
01:03:34
Shauna (she/her)
That's, I'm excited for that.
01:03:34
Anthony
Mm-hmm. Yeah, it was very guided play.
01:03:35
Shauna (she/her)
But also have you played Ballot Pro?
01:03:37
Anthony
Oh, gosh, no. um I'm scared to try it because I'm a huge Slay the Spire fan, and so Balotro would absolutely...
01:03:42
Shauna (she/her)
That's fair. my god, I love Sleeve the Spire! It's the post...
01:03:46
Anthony
No. Stop being so relatable.
01:03:47
Shauna (she/her)
See, this is...
01:03:48
Anthony
I just got...
01:03:50
Shauna (she/her)
love Sleeve the Spire.
01:03:51
Anthony
Yes, my current romantic interest slash girlfriend who is probably listening to this. Hi, Claire. um I got her super addicted to Slay the Spire.
01:03:57
Ryan
Hey.
01:03:58
Anthony
So, ah yeah.
01:03:59
Shauna (she/her)
Oh, I love that.
01:04:00
Anthony
One of us. One of us. I'm spreading the addiction like any self-respecting indie gamer should.
01:04:02
Shauna (she/her)
um my god.
01:04:03
Ryan
Yeah.
01:04:06
Anthony
The game's so good.
01:04:07
Shauna (she/her)
good.
01:04:07
Ryan
Have I played
01:04:08
Anthony
all right, so episode 112 of Real Hot Nerd Shit.
01:04:10
Shauna (she/her)
What?
01:04:12
Anthony
We're just going to put Ryan in the corner and we're going to do two hours on Slay the Spire deal.
01:04:16
Ryan
it? Yeah.
01:04:17
Shauna (she/her)
Yes. pardon
01:04:18
Ryan
Precisely. and its
01:04:19
Shauna (she/her)
car Card games is a great...
01:04:20
Anthony
When you're really running it out of ideas.
01:04:22
Shauna (she/her)
Actually, card games is a good... You joke, but card games is absolutely a good theme, and i one I could talk about far more.
01:04:28
Ryan
When we did our um fantasy run, we we toyed with the idea of recording a one shot or like a, is it called a one shot in D&D?
01:04:38
Shauna (she/her)
Yeah.
01:04:39
Anthony
yes it is. Very good.
01:04:39
Ryan
Yeah, of us of us doing a one-shot for
Challenges of D&D and Online Gaming
01:04:42
Ryan
D&D. And, you know, it's they can barely keep their campaign on track. So trying to throw another random, you know, one-shot in there would have been a nightmare.
01:04:53
Shauna (she/her)
Well, look, there's one person who's not great about checking his texts and responding to them.
01:04:57
Ryan
Say their name. Say their name.
01:05:00
Shauna (she/her)
Charlie.
01:05:02
Ryan
Oh, I thought it was going to be Armana.
01:05:02
Shauna (she/her)
It's absolutely Charlie.
01:05:04
Ryan
Okay, got it.
01:05:05
Shauna (she/her)
No, no, no.
01:05:05
Ryan
Fucking Charlie.
01:05:05
Shauna (she/her)
It's absolutely Charlie in our little D&D group who's very bad at times. And so we often wait for group consensus of like, hey, are we playing this Sunday? And then one person will say something, and then we'll just wait for anyone else to say anything.
01:05:20
Shauna (she/her)
But often it's like because like there's one person who's going to throw the wrench in. and We almost didn't get to record this today because I almost had to be playing D&D. But...
01:05:28
Ryan
Yeah.
01:05:28
Anthony
I am the wrench thrower in my D&D group. I hate to admit it.
01:05:33
Ryan
Boo.
01:05:34
Anthony
I'm that guy. But we are playing tonight, actually. Playing at 9.
01:05:37
Shauna (she/her)
See?
01:05:38
Anthony
So, yeah.
01:05:39
Shauna (she/her)
sure right
01:05:39
Anthony
that's But no, i I tend to be the the wrench thrower in my group, so I apologize.
01:05:41
Ryan
So
01:05:44
Anthony
that's ah It's a shitty thing to do to the homies.
01:05:45
Ryan
you play online or like
01:05:47
Anthony
Yeah, we do the, we don't, ah virtual tabletop. Yeah. So it's like we're in a Discord server and then it's like, ah yeah, it's an applet that you run on like a webpage that has the map and the tokens and the rollings and all that good stuff.
01:06:00
Ryan
Sick.
01:06:01
Shauna (she/her)
It works pretty well, honestly.
01:06:01
Ryan
Not.
01:06:02
Shauna (she/her)
like
01:06:03
Anthony
It does.
01:06:03
Shauna (she/her)
You know what?
01:06:03
Anthony
Great.
01:06:05
Shauna (she/her)
Not a lot of positives coming out of that their pandemic, but one that was.
01:06:10
Ryan
Mm-hmm.
01:06:10
Shauna (she/her)
Online gaming, a lot easier now, it's really which is really nice
01:06:13
Anthony
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
01:06:15
Ryan
Which also, just real quick while while we are on this mini tangent of gaming, um I have, so Shauna kind of picked up the second half of influencing my
Nostalgic Movie Scenes
01:06:28
Ryan
gaming. Like Shauna and Ryan were like my but older adult influences on gaming, whereas Anthony was my you know, original um ah influence on gaming.
01:06:40
Ryan
And the first game that I played during the pandemic that like made me say, okay, going to buy a Switch was Zelda. And I was so nervous to play because for my entire childhood, i would sit at sleepovers and watch Anthony play Zelda with glee. Like I never wanted to play. I just wanted to watch But I would be like stressed out for him and like would be thinking in my head.
01:07:05
Ryan
Like i I really had to like let go of the idea that this game is like too hard for me because Anthony made it like look easy.
01:07:11
Shauna (she/her)
Mm-hmm.
01:07:13
Ryan
But also i could never I couldn't pick it up as easily if we were like if he were to hand me the controller. it would take a little bit longer for me to be able to like acclimate myself to it.
01:07:26
Ryan
So as an adult, I'm like, i don't know if I can play this game. Like this game was so fucking hard. I can play that game. So shout out to ah Anthony for trying when we were kids, but I know everything I know about Zelda is because I watched Anthony play Ocarina of Time and Majora's Mask in real time for however long you played those games for.
01:07:51
Anthony
That is factually correct.
01:07:51
Ryan
Great times.
01:07:52
Anthony
Oh yeah.
01:07:53
Ryan
Yep.
01:07:53
Shauna (she/her)
Hmm.
01:07:54
Ryan
All right. ah So the gang is trying to get onto this game show with ah Brandy. But before they can really make anything happen, they go to the dirt mall because they get this like grand idea.
01:08:12
Shauna (she/her)
Well, they got kicked out first, so they finally did get caught, you know, because ah Mr.
01:08:14
Anthony
Yeah.
01:08:14
Ryan
Yes, they get kicked out.
01:08:17
Anthony
Fucking Lathor's.
01:08:18
Shauna (she/her)
Svenning was, like, he was taught, yeah, he was had he had enough, and so he finally got his revenge on them and that way that, you know, you i guess you have power when you're a TV show producer at a mid-level mall in Minneapolis.
01:08:29
Ryan
at a local New Jersey.
01:08:31
Shauna (she/her)
I'm sorry, it's in New Jersey, but the mall is actually in Minnesota.
01:08:35
Ryan
Got it.
01:08:36
Shauna (she/her)
Yeah.
01:08:36
Ryan
So they get kicked out and they go to the dirt mall to see Ivana the fortune teller, which we talked about earlier.
01:08:48
Shauna (she/her)
the topless fortune teller.
01:08:50
Ryan
A topless fortune teller, which we talked about a little bit ago, but I completely forgot about that part of the movie. And it like triggered this part of my brain that I was like, I definitely jerked off to this as a teenager. one hundred percent 100%.
01:09:05
Ryan
Like, I don't, I don't have a specific memory, but this feeling came back of being like, this was porn to me.
01:09:07
Anthony
Thank you.
01:09:12
Ryan
100%. Confusing porn, but it was porn. Because she was a topless storyteller who worked through her third nipple. that was her That was her connection to, you know, her powers or whatever.
01:09:26
Ryan
And of course we learned that it is not real. But another... One of my notes from this scene, and please feel free to jump in if you all have notes, but one of my notes is I have said, fuck us for like my whole life.
Relatable Character Behaviors
01:09:38
Shauna (she/her)
What is...
01:09:39
Ryan
And I did not remember that it was from Ivana, the topless fortune teller until that moment. She said, fuck us. And I said, oh my God, another thing unlocking in me. That's where that's fucking from. Holy shit.
01:09:52
Anthony
I just had made note of how hilarious it is that Brody drags him in there and then she tells him it's like 60 bucks or whatever. and he's like, Hey dude, like you got like, get your wall. Like that's just such a bro move to like be like, we all have that one guy friend who just you're you sharking money from you constantly for dumb shit.
01:10:04
Ryan
Yeah.
01:10:09
Shauna (she/her)
And.
01:10:10
Anthony
That is his idea. Like that, that tracks so hard.
01:10:12
Ryan
yeah Exactly.
01:10:13
Anthony
That's eternal. Like there's always going to be that guy.
01:10:15
Ryan
you go.
01:10:16
Anthony
Yeah.
01:10:16
Ryan
Absolutely.
01:10:17
Anthony
And then he's like, Hey man, can I get 20 bucks?
01:10:18
Ryan
yeah
01:10:19
Anthony
Sorry. it's Yeah. There's always one.
01:10:20
Ryan
Walking to Taco Bell with Jared in ninth grade and having 20 bucks in my pocket and treating the homies to Taco Bell because you could get a lot for 20 bucks in the early 2000s.
01:10:30
Anthony
Yeah, you could feed four teenagers with 20 bucks at Taco Bell back in that day.
01:10:33
Ryan
You sure the fuck could. You sure the fuck could. Any um notes or thoughts on the dirt mall scene, Sean?
01:10:37
Anthony
Can't even feed myself now.
01:10:44
Ryan
Anything that stuck out or that you're remembering?
01:10:44
Shauna (she/her)
Well, let's see. they Because they have the great rare realization. you know, i like the, like, one of you suffers silently and one of you you... Like, I always thought that was such a great, like, the parallels between them when they're both kind of very much in the same boat about their respective significant others. always thought that was such a good, like, the way she kind of tied it all together.
01:11:04
Shauna (she/her)
you know, really, it was a really nice, like... You know, yeah especially after the like the real slapsticky chase scene that was before it. i think that it was such a good follow up. And like, I really appreciate it as it moves it the movie to its denouement as they then go and decide they have a plan sort both wreck the stage, get revenge on Shannon Hamilton, who is the jerk who, you know,
Stan Lee's Impact on the Narrative
01:11:27
Shauna (she/her)
wanted to beat the shit out of them.
01:11:28
Ryan
Fucks people in uncomfortable places.
01:11:30
Shauna (she/her)
And then fucks people in uncomfortable places. Yeah. and And so they go knock out the two of the three contestants, except for Brian O'Halloran himself, who is playing his cousin, Dante Hicks.
01:11:40
Ryan
The suitors.
01:11:42
Anthony
Well, yeah, Jay smokes them under the table. That's what happens.
01:11:46
Ryan
Yeah.
01:11:47
Anthony
The contestants become incapacitated from the ah copious amounts of marijuana that Jay entices them with.
01:11:55
Ryan
And that is why you keep stoners around.
01:11:55
Anthony
They're just like, uncut. Yep.
01:11:58
Ryan
Exactly. Snoochie boochies.
01:11:58
Shauna (she/her)
Mm-hmm.
01:11:59
Anthony
Yep. Snoochie boochies.
01:12:02
Ryan
I'm so excited to work those things back into my ah into my vocabulary again as an adult because occasionally texting Anthony and responding with snoogins has like brought me a level of joy again.
01:12:02
Anthony
Yeah.
01:12:13
Anthony
No.
01:12:15
Ryan
like ba It just, you know, it's a great great callbacks, great reminders, great quotable lines.
01:12:21
Anthony
No, Snitchy Boochies needs to fucking make a comeback. it's That's a great, great phrase.
01:12:24
Ryan
Sure does.
01:12:25
Anthony
All for it.
01:12:26
Ryan
That and until the day he dies.
01:12:26
Shauna (she/her)
God, but its it it ah looks like someone shit in your cereal.
01:12:30
Ryan
so Go, go, go, go.
Cultural Impact of Mallrats
01:12:32
Shauna (she/her)
BANG!
01:12:33
Ryan
Yeah.
01:12:35
Anthony
ah
01:12:36
Shauna (she/her)
God.
01:12:38
Ryan
What I was going to say before, you know we we're um advocating for Snoochie Boochies coming back. And until the day he dies, Anthony will advocate for jabronis to remain in the popular lexicon.
01:12:50
Anthony
Oh, yes. If there is if theres there's one person left on this planet using the word jabroni, I will be alive.
01:12:53
Shauna (she/her)
Gironis is a great word.
01:13:00
Anthony
If there are zero people, then I would be dead. I will keep it alive. I will keep that fire burning as long as I shall live. And, you know, teenage children of mine several years from now can, you know, I'll start trying to work that in, but they're a little bit young.
01:13:10
Ryan
they
01:13:17
Anthony
Although having a four-year-old call somebody a jabroni would absolutely hit. And I would, if it was not my kid, if I heard some four-year-old call somebody a jabroni, I would die.
01:13:21
Ryan
Yeah. Top tier.
01:13:25
Anthony
i would absolutely die.
01:13:26
Ryan
Top tier.
01:13:26
Anthony
Yeah.
01:13:27
Ryan
Then there's that fucking kid on the escalator calling people jabronis now.
01:13:33
Anthony
yeah
01:13:34
Shauna (she/her)
I think that kid's actually the jabroni.
01:13:36
Anthony
e she
01:13:37
Ryan
Truly.
01:13:38
Anthony
Isn't there like ah like a random, like there's a bunch of emergency workers that come running by in the one seat and it's because the kid got stuck in the escalator?
01:13:42
Ryan
Yes.
01:13:42
Shauna (she/her)
Yes. So yeah, in in a callback, like, help, there's a kid stuck on the escalator.
01:13:47
Anthony
Yeah, yeah, like they just totally throw it away in the background.
01:13:47
Shauna (she/her)
Yeah, it's just a great, like...
01:13:48
Ryan
Yep.
01:13:50
Anthony
Yeah, so good.
01:13:51
Ryan
So good. um So...
01:13:52
Shauna (she/her)
And then they also go and meet Stan Lee. and Because that's when they meet Stan Lee.
01:13:56
Ryan
Oh, we cannot forget that. We cannot forget that. So they go back to the mall and ah ah Brody um is like...
01:14:07
Ryan
You know, he he realized that Ivana, the topless fortune teller, was right and that he is suffering, but he doesn't really know what to do about it because he's fucking, you know, a dumb boy with no sort of understanding of how to talk to other people or about his feelings.
01:14:22
Ryan
And so out of nowhere, pop Stan Lee, who gives him this wonderful sage advice about, you know, like. we not regretting your chances or like, you know, taking taking another chance on somebody and how it's a huge regret of his.
01:14:35
Shauna (she/her)
Thank you.
01:14:36
Ryan
um And that sort of inspires Brody to participate in the shenanigans to get their girlfriends back at the end of the movie. But in particular, um something that I noticed with the Stan Lee ah part is he never really engages in any of the dirty talk. He just kind of like politely sidesteps it.
01:14:59
Ryan
And I just thought that that was really interesting. Like when he says something, he asks about Mr. Fantastic and if everything can stretch. ah Stanley's response is, we never really tackled that back in the day.
01:15:13
Ryan
And then just keeps it moving. I'm like, there are some politicians that need to watch this movie and see how well he just navigated that.
01:15:19
Shauna (she/her)
right
01:15:19
Ryan
Because it was a great answer. And it just kept it pushing. And then he said the same thing about um the the thing. jason ah Brody asks about the thing. And I don't remember what Stanley's response was, but I was like, that was really delicately handled.
01:15:35
Ryan
And Stanley still looks old, but looks less old. And it's wild because he looks like, you know, a man that should have been retired only for us.
01:15:39
Shauna (she/her)
o
01:15:45
Ryan
That's one thing that we didn't talk about at the beginning was this Stanley documentary, but Anthony.
01:15:47
Shauna (she/her)
Oh, he died, didn't he?
01:15:49
Anthony
He sure did.
01:15:49
Ryan
Oh yeah. He's been dead for a minute. Yeah.
01:15:51
Shauna (she/her)
No, I know, I'm just...
01:15:53
Ryan
Okay.
01:15:53
Anthony
Oh, God, i was gonna say, Shauna, come on, you're s slipping. and
01:15:56
Ryan
Yeah. Yep.
01:15:57
Anthony
What the fuck? I know that, and I don't read comic books. Like, what are you doing with your life? You got me. That was well played.
01:16:04
Shauna (she/her)
Thank you.
01:16:05
Shauna (she/her)
Oh, but what i did want to say though, on that note, I think it's something that when I think about why these movies, why Kevin Smith movies resonated with us, you know, like in varying degrees of closetedness, you know, in that kind of way, because they're always, even in these nerd dick and fart joke movies, there's this romantic underpinning.
01:16:05
Ryan
um
01:16:27
Shauna (she/her)
There's a real romanticism there. This true, like the love of a good partner, you know, not like fighting for love is like a great message that is at the heart of both clerks.
01:16:32
Ryan
Yeah.
01:16:38
Shauna (she/her)
And, you know, ah you know, there are a lot of fine looking women. Not all of them are bringing you lasagna at work.
01:16:43
Ryan
Yes.
01:16:43
Shauna (she/her)
you know, and then to follow that up with Mallrats.
01:16:44
Ryan
Yes.
01:16:45
Shauna (she/her)
And then in the third movie, Chasing Amy, you know, even like there's real romanticism to it all that I think is why Kevin Smith movies are so appealing, both back then to spoke to all of us in different ways, but then because and also now still has a lot of value and we still find meaning in them.
01:16:49
Ryan
Yep.
01:17:04
Shauna (she/her)
I think it's because of that.
01:17:05
Ryan
Yeah. And speaking of stuff that makes you want to throw up, um we forgot to mention the... We forgot to mention how um ah Brody shits in a bag. Okay, so let's talk about the stink palm thing that he tries to do to Mr.
01:17:18
Anthony
Oh, do we have to?
01:17:19
Ryan
Svenning, where...
01:17:20
Shauna (she/her)
I don't think he shits in the bag.
01:17:22
Ryan
Oh, I think he shits in the bag.
01:17:25
Anthony
No, he just...
01:17:25
Shauna (she/her)
no no, no.
01:17:25
Ryan
He gives him a cup...
01:17:26
Shauna (she/her)
He wipes what he does.
01:17:27
Anthony
He's unkempt, and so his ass is sweaty and gross, and so he shoves his hand all down in there and gets the ooze, for lack of a better term, on hand.
01:17:34
Shauna (she/her)
because let's be honest, he probably does not wipe well, if I had to guess.
01:17:37
Anthony
No.
01:17:37
Ryan
No.
01:17:38
Shauna (she/her)
He does not, he is not fastidious.
01:17:41
Anthony
And what are...
01:17:41
Shauna (she/her)
Is not the word I would use to describe this Brody.
01:17:41
Ryan
When Yeah.
01:17:43
Anthony
What are the odds that he actually took a shower from the last time that he had sex with his girlfriend from when he went to the mall?
01:17:43
Shauna (she/her)
Not so.
01:17:49
Anthony
Like, 8% chance he took a shower, so he probably was still just, like, swimming in whatever juices were.
01:17:55
Ryan
the He, bold to assume that she got wet. um He, so um okay, that was actually something that I noted because he said, he's like, yeah, you you can shower all you want to, but that smells never coming off.
01:18:10
Ryan
And like, yes, it should. um Yes, it should. Like, no matter how dirty your ass like, nothing should...
01:18:18
Shauna (she/her)
You should try a again
01:18:19
Ryan
You should, you're not doing it right then, my dude. Like, if your hands are not smelly after you wash them, problem.
01:18:22
Anthony
No,
01:18:27
Ryan
And that speaks to what your ass is probably like, which is why your hand doesn't stop smelling. But no, the chocolate covered pretzels. He gives them chocolate covered pretzels. And I'm pretty sure he's shitting them.
01:18:37
Anthony
no because he he just shoved his gross, disgusting hand with the ooze into the chocolate-covered pretzels and like, yeah!
01:18:42
Ryan
but Really? Really?
01:18:44
Shauna (she/her)
Yeah, that's that's the Secret of the Ooze from the 90s, actually, was that fit scene............................
01:18:47
Anthony
Yeah, it that is the secret of the ooze. Yeah. And so the chocolate-covered pretzels were just a a literary device for it to look like he was licking shit off of his fingers because he had stuck his ass hand in the pretzels.
01:19:00
Ryan
Oh.
01:19:00
Anthony
And as a chocolate-covered pretzel aficionado, like I'm going to have the ick about eating chocolate-covered pretzels for a little bit now.
01:19:01
Ryan
I don't know if that's...
01:19:06
Anthony
Thanks, small rats, for that.
01:19:07
Ryan
So that was my note, because um I really have... four This movie came out in 1995, so for 30 years I have really been thinking that someone shit in his chocolate-covered pretzels, and that's why he gets so sick.
01:19:22
Ryan
Because my note was... it also made me think of the pie in the help where she shits in that pie and gives it to the woman and makes her eat it And like the woman eats more than one piece.
01:19:33
Shauna (she/her)
but I don't remember that.
01:19:35
Ryan
Yeah. Um, it's how, um, uh, fuck what's her name? Um, I want to say the character's name Hattie. No, that's the main white character. Um, it is the character played by, v Octavia Spencer.
01:19:49
Ryan
Um,
01:19:49
Shauna (she/her)
Wait. Oh, wait. What movie? Oh, I thought. Wait, what movie did you say?
01:19:53
Ryan
Oh, the help.
01:19:54
Shauna (she/her)
oh I thought you said a different. Oh, I thought I heard a different movie completely. Okay. Nevermind.
01:19:59
Ryan
the help The Help is a classic white savior book film, but there is a scene where a formerly employed
01:20:05
Shauna (she/her)
like yeah like
01:20:09
Ryan
um ah black housemaid feeds her for previous white boss ah a pie, but it's got her shit in it. She took a shit in a pie and and this woman like happily eats a piece and then happily eats a second piece.
01:20:23
Ryan
So I, my note was like, how do people eat shit stuff in, even in fictional media and not be like, wow, this tastes like shit. Like did, did she add awa a lot of shit? Like, okay. So that mystery is solved. He did not shit in the chocolate covered pretzels.
01:20:39
Ryan
I feel not any better about it, but I do feel more informed. I do feel more informed.
01:20:44
Shauna (she/her)
That's valid.
01:20:46
Ryan
Um, The other note that I had around that area is when Jay and Silent Bob take down... Who do they... Do they...
01:20:57
Ryan
They knock somebody out after they smoke those boys out.
Comedic Chaos and Character Critiques
01:21:01
Anthony
Well, Jay bludgeons LaForge with an aluminum baseball bat, just casually.
01:21:02
Shauna (she/her)
him too. yeah
01:21:07
Ryan
Yes.
01:21:07
Anthony
Like, no one has anything to say about the fact that he just bludgeoned a man unconscious. Where do you get the baseball bat from? Is he just walking around the mall with an aluminum baseball bat? Did he go to the sporting goods store and, like, shoplift the aluminum baseball bat?
01:21:15
Ryan
Yeah, that's why...
01:21:16
Shauna (she/her)
Hmm.
01:21:18
Ryan
Silent Bob's got a long trench coat.
01:21:19
Anthony
I have a lot of questions about this baseball bat. Yeah.
01:21:22
Ryan
um But at the after he hits the fours over the head, he says, kneel before Zod.
01:21:29
Anthony
Yeah.
01:21:29
Ryan
And i was like, oh, it's so nice to finally understand that reference. Like, I didn't i didn't get it until, you know, I watched it now as a bigger nerd. But um yeah, so all this chaos transpires and they go onto the show.
01:21:40
Shauna (she/her)
a
01:21:45
Ryan
Here's Toad, everybody. Um, they go onto the show.
01:21:47
Shauna (she/her)
God.
01:21:49
Ryan
Yeah. I can big give it. Um, and really don't do anything that makes them worthwhile to get back with. I do not. He basically attacks Brandy for her choices and like airs all of their shit out.
01:22:03
Ryan
And then Jason Lee acts like a fucking turd. Brody acts like a turd. And Shannon Doherty is like, that's my turd. What?
01:22:10
Shauna (she/her)
Yeah, well...
01:22:10
Ryan
That part of the movie I just wrote, these guys suck. Like they're not good people.
01:22:13
Anthony
one So I wrote this down and I had a question I wanted to ask you guys about this movie. And I feel like this is a great segue. ah
01:22:21
Ryan
Yes.
01:22:21
Anthony
If this movie was made in 2025, Brody would just be an incel, right? And like this plot wouldn't even happen.
01:22:26
Ryan
Yeah. Correct. He wouldn't have a girlfriend to begin with.
01:22:28
Shauna (she/her)
Yeah, know no, but these nerds don't exist in this way anymore in the same kind of ways because I think that the spaces are so changed that either you would not have those kind of behaviors, reactions, or you would...
01:22:29
Ryan
Well...
01:22:44
Anthony
right.
Evolving Perceptions of Nerd Culture
01:22:45
Shauna (she/her)
like the The equation is just different because the like... But maybe that's just part and parcel of how...
01:22:50
Ryan
I don't know.
01:22:53
Shauna (she/her)
our culture is so put people into boxes that maybe there is like a way out. Maybe we can find the affableness in their shenanigans and it doesn't have to be so incel-y, but I don't know.
01:23:03
Ryan
So toxic. I don't know, because the anger that Jason has, the anger that Brody has towards his ex-girlfriend for basically wanting to be treated like a partner and, like, the way that he behaves, my, like, he sucks.
01:23:04
Shauna (she/her)
How the fuck do you say that? Like,
01:23:17
Ryan
He's not a good boyfriend. Like, it is, it does very much so remind me, like, of just how, especially in heterosexual couples, like, there's this normalized, like,
01:23:29
Ryan
oh, it's okay for, you know, these people to hate each other. Like, you know, I think about these like suburban women who are like married and just miserable.
01:23:40
Ryan
And these like, they clearly don't like each other anymore. And that's who Meghan Trainor makes music for, by the way. I've already, I've recently come out and said, I don't like Meghan Trainor because she makes music for um straight women that hate their husbands.
01:23:49
Shauna (she/her)
Thank
01:23:49
Anthony
you
01:23:55
Ryan
um But yeah, So the the anyways, the thing that I was trying to get at around like being in the the incel of it all, like it it it felt very like this was kind of normalized in the 90s or like prior to, you know, sort of a maybe a larger um social shift around how couples are supposed to treat each other.
01:24:16
Ryan
But Brody would have like a YouTube channel where he talks about the one girlfriend he's had and how it lasted, you know, three weeks because he wouldn't wash his ass or take her in public in the daytime and or at nighttime.
01:24:30
Ryan
um But like I ah he would totally be an insult. He would totally be an incel. That's the vibe that he gives in Mallrats.
01:24:39
Shauna (she/her)
right
01:24:39
Anthony
I thought so.
01:24:39
Shauna (she/her)
Living in one's parents' basement has absolutely, like, it went from, not that it was ever endearing, but I think it went from this, like, oh, well, it's harmless to ah real negative in the next decade after this movie.
01:24:54
Shauna (she/her)
Like, and especially, like, that is an interesting change, though.
01:24:54
Anthony
were
01:24:58
Anthony
Brody would have an extensive posting history on 4chan. I think that's accurate to say.
01:25:01
Ryan
Yeah, yeah, 100%.
01:25:03
Anthony
Like that would definitely be like the vibe of that human being in like this era. He would be that guy for sure.
01:25:08
Ryan
Yeah. because he Because there are a lot of...
01:25:10
Anthony
lot of Pepe saved his computer.
01:25:13
Ryan
There's yeah there's a...
01:25:15
Anthony
And Wojax.
01:25:15
Ryan
um like the honest but um Strictly uses VPNs, never gets on public Wi-Fi, never.
01:25:22
Anthony
Oh, absolutely.
01:25:22
Shauna (she/her)
Eric Bischoffer, he.
01:25:23
Anthony
Yeah.
01:25:25
Ryan
um Yeah, he he does remind me of like a specific archetype of of men, of specifically straight men. And obviously, you know that archetype is kind of like incels. But like before...
01:25:38
Ryan
um and Maybe message boards, maybe like the ability to connect with other people who are also experiencing similar things... like, bred that incel culture of, like, oh, you experienced this too, you experienced this too, it must be the women that are the problem in this situation.
01:25:55
Ryan
But, like, the Brody-TS dynamic, like, TS is at least, like, in a normal conflict with, well, normal, in, like, a somewhat normal conflict with his girlfriend and just handles it really poorly.
01:26:08
Ryan
Brody is wrong and stubborn and mean to her and then, like, you know, publicly airs all their shit too. So anyways, I just, neither of them are good guys and it's just wild that this worked.
01:26:22
Ryan
And it also kind of shows like, you know, the, the growth perhaps of Kevin Smith that like he would have made them the romantic archetypes at a point. Like, I don't think Kevin Smith would highlight that type of behavior in movies or media now.
01:26:36
Ryan
Like, I don't think he would make them endearing the way that they, we were endeared to them before.
01:26:37
Shauna (she/her)
Hmm.
01:26:38
Anthony
Yeah.
01:26:41
Anthony
Sure. I mean, yeah, he even went out of his way to have a specific scene where Gwen is talking to Brandy about how if she doesn't get her act together and get back together with TS, who's just such a super stud, like, maybe I'll go back after, you know what I mean?
01:26:42
Shauna (she/her)
o
01:26:52
Ryan
Yes.
01:26:53
Anthony
Like, oh, he's such a catch, you know what I mean?
01:26:54
Ryan
Yes. He's such a catch.
01:26:57
Anthony
Like, is he though? Is he really right? Like,
01:27:01
Ryan
Right.
01:27:02
Anthony
Are you guys not just going to like have these same arguments again, six months from now when he's not like listening to you or being attentive to your feelings and shit? Like, i don't know. That's just me.
01:27:12
Ryan
Yeah, correct. Correct. um So, you know, we do switch protagonists from Brody and TS in Mallrats into Jane Silent Bob, where they are the sole protagonists.
01:27:26
Ryan
Well, they're not the sole protagonists, but they are the primary protagonists and now step into the forefront, which for as much as I, i do have a lot of like love and nostalgia for Mallrats, Jane Silent Bob like was next level sort of like I was older. I got the jokes more.
01:27:43
Ryan
I was in that like time of those jokes being very funny.
01:27:43
Shauna (she/her)
o
01:27:47
Ryan
Like when fucking Chrissy or whatever farts at the end of that laser maze thing, that was like, Oh my God, a hot girl farting.
01:27:53
Shauna (she/her)
Oh my god
01:27:56
Ryan
That's the funniest thing I've ever seen in my whole life.
01:27:58
Anthony
Yeah.
01:27:58
Ryan
Like that was peak cinema for that period.
01:28:01
Shauna (she/her)
Wait
01:28:01
Anthony
chekhov Chekhov's fart when he tells her at movies that if she eats that shit, it's going to make her fart. And then she farts.
01:28:06
Ryan
Yup.
01:28:07
Anthony
Yep.
01:28:07
Ryan
Yup.
01:28:07
Anthony
I wrote down Chekhov's fart.
01:28:08
Ryan
And she yells, that stoner nerd was right.
01:28:08
Shauna (she/her)
but wait
01:28:09
Anthony
I was so proud of myself. Yeah, that stoner.
01:28:11
Ryan
Yeah.
01:28:12
Anthony
God damn it. That stoner.
01:28:15
Ryan
Kind of picking up on the last little bit before we wrap the movie, are there any other... I'm saying this like of a leading question because there's absolutely another part that I want to talk about, and that was the schooner sailboat.
Mallrats' Nostalgic Elements
01:28:27
Ryan
but um So let's jump there and then see what other things that you all thought about. But um that... First of all, I'm pretty sure I saw a... What is it called? Magic Eye?
01:28:40
Ryan
Is that what it... Like...
01:28:41
Anthony
Mm-hmm.
01:28:41
Shauna (she/her)
Yeah, Magic Eye.
01:28:42
Ryan
I'm pretty sure there's one in Beachwood mall. Like I'm pretty sure I saw one today um while I was shopping.
01:28:46
Shauna (she/her)
And same I've never been able to see Magic Eye. Ethan Supley's character is very relatable. I've never i've never seen the sailboat, and i feel like i'm missing out, but is what it is.
01:28:54
Ryan
Very.
01:28:59
Ryan
Oh, I also.
01:29:02
Anthony
So this just made me think of something. What if you, as an adult, like got a magic eye now and hung it in your house as just like art? Like, wouldn't people be like, oh, fuck, that's a magic eye.
01:29:14
Anthony
And then you just have like eight people at your house party, like staring at the magic eye on your wall, trying to figure it out.
01:29:15
Ryan
Yeah.
01:29:20
Ryan
Wow, Anthony, it sounds like you've got some good.
01:29:21
Shauna (she/her)
And it's going to be of a sailboat. I think that's going to be what it is.
01:29:23
Ryan
but Yeah.
01:29:24
Anthony
Oh, and if it was a sailboat. Oh my God. If it was a sailboat, that'd be so based.
01:29:27
Shauna (she/her)
That's the choice.
01:29:27
Anthony
Yes, absolutely. That'd be such a great like little trinket for your, like a room in your house.
01:29:29
Ryan
Yeah.
01:29:32
Anthony
That's so good.
01:29:33
Ryan
Yep.
01:29:34
Anthony
There you go.
01:29:34
Ryan
And for.
01:29:34
Shauna (she/her)
That's...
01:29:34
Anthony
Someone, someone out there, one of the 20 people who are watching or listening, you could steal that.
01:29:38
Ryan
Yeah.
01:29:38
Anthony
You're welcome. I do possess some aesthetic sense.
01:29:41
Ryan
Also, I know what to get you for your birthday now.
01:29:41
Anthony
Thank you. Oh my heaven.
01:29:44
Ryan
remember note to self.
01:29:45
Anthony
Yes, I would. Yes, please do. Cause I will forget by October.
01:29:49
Ryan
Also, both of you are Libras. Unrelated.
01:29:51
Shauna (she/her)
Oh shit. Wait.
01:29:53
Anthony
ah Oh, shit, indeed.
01:29:54
Ryan
Okay, um, so the schooner sailboat, that Ethan character is a fucking gem, and he always kind of plays, like, the... I mean, I, i like, just have to say what it is. Like, he always kind of plays, like, the dummy trope.
01:30:07
Ryan
Like, he's on My Name is Earl, too, right? And he plays, like, um...
01:30:10
Shauna (she/her)
He is with Jason Lee.
01:30:12
Ryan
with Jason Lee.
01:30:14
Anthony
And he's a, isn't he one of the offensive linemen and remember the Titans, but he's like, but like, like the coach has to like help him pass school so he can keep playing football.
01:30:22
Shauna (she/her)
Mm-hmm.
01:30:22
Ryan
Yes.
01:30:22
Anthony
Like he has, yeah, he's like the ogre idiot with a heart of gold character, like and everything.
01:30:23
Shauna (she/her)
He
01:30:27
Shauna (she/her)
Ah.
01:30:27
Ryan
Yeah.
01:30:28
Shauna (she/her)
But the role I knew him first was as the best friend to the bully in Boy Meets World.
01:30:28
Ryan
Bless his heart.
01:30:35
Ryan
Oh yeah, 100%.
01:30:37
Shauna (she/her)
Because he was Harvey's friend.
01:30:41
Shauna (she/her)
Yeah. Oh, my gosh. but Boy Meets World. Ugh.
01:30:45
Anthony
I liked how they used, like, the mustard stains all over.
01:30:45
Ryan
The...
01:30:48
Anthony
Like, he had been there so long. Like, he, like, didn't even... He was so fixated that he didn't even, like, change his clothes. He was just, like, filthy and just, like, standing there. Imagine the smell as he's, like, standing at the magic I took it as the homie was just...
01:30:59
Ryan
i
01:31:02
Ryan
I really... really was not certain if that was supposed to be like the design of a shirt or if it was supposed to be stains. And I... thank i was
01:31:10
Shauna (she/her)
I think it was despondent, dazed staring.
01:31:11
Anthony
Yeah. Yeah.
01:31:12
Ryan
I've seen a lot of that. Right.
01:31:16
Shauna (she/her)
Yeah. But yeah, the phrase, a schooner is a sailboat's stupid head, has lived in my head rent-free ever since the first time I saw that movie.
01:31:18
Ryan
And the way that they...
01:31:21
Anthony
Yeah.
01:31:27
Ryan
1,000% also how I learned what a schooner is. I would never have any other understanding of the word schooner because, you know, that that nice young man told that character that a schooner is a sailboat.
01:31:39
Shauna (she/her)
It's why I know callow means frightened and weak-willed, because that was one of my favorite parts.
01:31:39
Ryan
You dummy. Stupid man.
01:31:44
Ryan
Oh shit, that's true.
01:31:44
Anthony
Yeah, she did she did call me Calo. He thought that was a compliment. Yeah, that's that's really ah was funny.
01:31:51
Ryan
I thought that was the one nice part of the letter. Hell yeah. um Yeah, the I loved how they tied that to the using the force thing with Silent Bob. Like, what ah what a lovely little nod to, like, again, a part that was kind of prevalent in the movie earlier. Like, i I love that kind of, like, self-referential humor. Like, obviously that one was pretty easily baked in But, like, it it's really funny that he gets to use the Jedi mind trick all because this disgruntled man couldn't see the fucking schooner in the magic eye.
01:32:30
Ryan
Like, hell yeah. The circle of life, baby.
01:32:33
Anthony
Yep.
01:32:34
Ryan
Mm-mm.
01:32:35
Anthony
Yep, he he didn't leave any loose ends. Whatever he was smoking and when he was writing that script, and he was like, oh he can come fucking hit the the support for the stage and make him pull the Jedi mind trick off.
01:32:45
Ryan
Yes. Yes.
01:32:49
Anthony
like
01:32:50
Shauna (she/her)
and then it leads to the Kevin Smith line the the one silent Bob line of the episode of adventure excitement a Jedi craves not these things just it's that's just so good
01:32:51
Anthony
Very good.
01:33:01
Anthony
Nails it.
01:33:02
Ryan
I really... sorry
01:33:07
Ryan
I really love... Like, Kevin Smith is ah ah kevin Kevin Smith is a handsome
Kevin Smith and Character Reflections
01:33:12
Ryan
man. Seeing him as an adult in my 30s and realized they had to like style him to be kind of unattractive, like I think Kevin Smith in his early 20s is a hottie. I've always also been like weirdly attracted to Jay, too.
01:33:27
Ryan
um
01:33:28
Shauna (she/her)
Hmm.
01:33:28
Ryan
But I think that's just you know ah that's just something for me to work through. But ah Silent Bob is, or Kevin Smith specifically, is I've always thought he was a hunk.
01:33:39
Anthony
does Does Jay just radiate I can fix him energy for you, Ryan?
01:33:43
Ryan
Probably. probably Wow, Anthony. Right from my fucking throat on my podcast?
01:33:49
Anthony
Hey, man.
01:33:50
Ryan
Wow.
01:33:51
Anthony
Hey, man. If you're going invite people with this kind of history, you're you got to be ready to play these kind of fucking games, my friend.
01:33:51
Ryan
Damn.
01:33:54
Ryan
Clocked.
01:33:57
Anthony
Like, here we are.
01:33:57
Ryan
Yeah.
01:33:58
Shauna (she/her)
Angie, bust not miss.
01:33:59
Ryan
Yep.
01:33:59
Shauna (she/her)
And that hit.
01:34:00
Ryan
Yeah.
01:34:01
Anthony
Yup.
01:34:01
Ryan
Wow.
01:34:01
Anthony
Yup.
01:34:02
Ryan
my My cheeks are actually turning red because that was such a good fucking read. That was such good fucking read, too. Yeah, of course. I can tolerate that behavior and definitely improve it. It's very... What did I say earlier? He's very fixable. He's very teachable.
01:34:16
Shauna (she/her)
A bit of a fixer-upper.
01:34:16
Ryan
He responds well.
01:34:17
Shauna (she/her)
and and
01:34:18
Ryan
Yep.
01:34:19
Anthony
He's got a couple of flaws.
01:34:19
Ryan
Yep.
01:34:20
Anthony
That's awesome.
01:34:21
Ryan
what What is this song that you both are also referencing to?
01:34:24
Anthony
Oh, because we have young children.
01:34:26
Shauna (she/her)
Frozen.
01:34:26
Anthony
That's from Frozen.
01:34:27
Shauna (she/her)
Yeah.
01:34:27
Anthony
Yeah.
01:34:28
Ryan
oh got it.
01:34:28
Shauna (she/her)
Yeah.
01:34:28
Ryan
Okay, got it. Got it. I was what the fuck, you guys?
01:34:30
Shauna (she/her)
ah
01:34:34
Anthony
Yeah.
01:34:35
Ryan
Okay, so what else for Mallrats?
01:34:36
Anthony
Oh.
01:34:37
Ryan
Any other thoughts?
01:34:38
Anthony
ah Yeah, I'll take one.
Romantic Comedy in Mallrats' Conclusion
01:34:39
Anthony
um I just had, ah I was very, very, very laughing hysterically at the scene when Jay and Silent Bob beat the shit out of the Easter Bunny because they they they someone told them that the Easter Bunny was who had, I don't remember, the Easter Bunny had wronged them in some way, but so the Jay and Silent Bob got their vengeance on him.
01:34:49
Ryan
Yes.
01:34:54
Ryan
Roughed him up.
01:34:56
Shauna (she/her)
and
01:34:59
Shauna (she/her)
And the little girl was just struck.
01:35:01
Anthony
Yeah, so what I wrote...
01:35:01
Ryan
Yeah.
01:35:03
Anthony
that Yeah.
01:35:04
Shauna (she/her)
oh
01:35:05
Anthony
Yeah, the... I just... I made a note for myself that my daughter would be the terror-struck little girl, like, traumatized by the Easter Bunny being molested, but my son would absolutely be one of the kids that ran in there just, like, flying body slam and, like, dogpile the Easter Bunny.
01:35:21
Anthony
Yeah.
01:35:22
Ryan
100%. 100%. He's like... 100%.
01:35:23
Anthony
Like, I just...
01:35:23
Ryan
Yeah, your son would fully be like, this is being encouraged?
01:35:24
Anthony
Yeah, my dad brain was like, oh, yeah, that's my one kid and that's my other kid. Like, there they are in that scene. Yeah.
01:35:31
Ryan
Here I go.
01:35:31
Anthony
Yeah.
01:35:31
Ryan
Here go. Yeah. Yeah. your son would fully be like oh so this is being encouraged but here i go
01:35:37
Shauna (she/her)
Well,
01:35:37
Anthony
Yeah. Yeah. He definitely just lying cross body block on the Easter bunny while he's laying on the ground there.
01:35:38
Ryan
here i go
01:35:43
Anthony
No regard for human life.
01:35:43
Ryan
yeah
01:35:44
Anthony
Absolutely.
01:35:46
Shauna (she/her)
well So I think my after, because somehow these shenanigans lead to them getting back together with the girls.
01:35:54
Ryan
Yes, again, how?
01:35:54
Shauna (she/her)
Because, you know, of course they did. And, you know, we find out, you T.S.' 's big plan. He's going to propose when Jaws pops out the water. And I mean, you know what?
01:36:04
Shauna (she/her)
That is real romantic. You know, I'd credit where credit's due. I'm like, good for you.
01:36:08
Ryan
Yeah.
01:36:09
Shauna (she/her)
You've got a plan and you can do worse with it. And you know what? Even this plan was bad. But having a plan is better than no plan at all.
01:36:16
Ryan
True. And the thing that I think is kind of... And, and you know, maybe there's more... So, we learn that plan at the beginning of the movie, but he never tells Brandy that. He only tells um ah Brody that.
01:36:33
Ryan
But... he keeps encountering these people throughout the day who know somehow that he was going to propose at Universal Studios, specifically when Jaws pops out.
01:36:45
Ryan
And so like someone is talking, there's, you know, there's this messenger that's passing around and everyone's giving him a hard time for it. But then on the actual dating show, you know, when they,
01:36:54
Anthony
Thank you.
01:36:56
Ryan
when he chooses to propose, which was, you know, again, smart in the moment, spontaneous, he took Ivana, the topless fortune tellers advice as one should and proposed to her on the spot. And then they get married on the, uh, jaws ride.
01:37:14
Ryan
And, when I was watching it back, like I had forgot, I just, you know, there's a bunch that I had just forgotten about when they show them at the end, standing there, like, you know, the kiss the bride moment.
01:37:25
Ryan
I was like, it struck me like one second before the Jaws, ah before Jaws pops out that like, oh my God, they were getting married on the Jaws thing.
01:37:35
Ryan
And then Jaws popped out. It was a really good, like, I'm so glad that I forgot about that moment until just that point. Cause it's a great,
01:37:42
Shauna (she/her)
I love that.
01:37:43
Ryan
It's a great little button on it.
01:37:46
Anthony
Yeah, the epilogue is good.
01:37:46
Shauna (she/her)
You know, and I love the flash forward, too, where, you know, Brody's hosting the Tonight Show because he is very funny in an irreverent way, and i'm like, you know what, that's fair, good for you.
01:37:48
Anthony
Hmm.
01:37:49
Ryan
Yes.
01:37:54
Ryan
Of course.
01:37:58
Shauna (she/her)
And, you know, the song Suzanne by Weezer's playing, you know, with, I love the great, as a big Guns N' Roses fan in high school, i love the, where they name drop Izzy Slash and Axl Rose when you call I Put Them All on Hold.
01:38:10
Ryan
Where did they drop that?
01:38:12
Anthony
Ha ha.
01:38:12
Shauna (she/her)
It's Alight and Suzanne.
01:38:12
Ryan
I don't know.
01:38:14
Shauna (she/her)
Even Izzy slash an Axl Rose.
01:38:14
Ryan
oh
01:38:16
Shauna (she/her)
When you call, I put them all on hold. Yeah.
01:38:21
Ryan
yep got it okay I definitely again Shauna pays attention to the soundtrack
01:38:22
Anthony
yeah
01:38:23
Shauna (she/her)
See, that's, again, the...
01:38:23
Anthony
like
01:38:26
Anthony
No, see that? Actually, not Yeah.
01:38:27
Shauna (she/her)
I do. And Moritz is a bop. Like, it's a heck of a soundtrack.
01:38:30
Ryan
yeah
01:38:31
Anthony
It is.
01:38:31
Shauna (she/her)
Silverchair...
01:38:33
Anthony
No, I made a note. It was actually during Jay and Son and Bob, but it is absolutely applicable to every Kevin Smith movie. His taste in like his music so and when he needle drops things just kills it.
01:38:47
Anthony
It's very ah very, very, very...
01:38:48
Ryan
yeah
01:38:48
Shauna (she/her)
Absolutely.
01:38:50
Anthony
ah While I was re-watching them this week, like I had a whole different appreciation for just how good the music in the movies are. When he needle drops shit, I'm like, yeah, I get it. ah super into it.
01:39:01
Ryan
so yeah i you know there were perhaps because none of those songs were of my of my oeuvre i i couldn't have the appropriate um appreciation for them um
01:39:01
Anthony
So I'm glad you saw that.
01:39:02
Shauna (she/her)
Absolutely.
01:39:02
Anthony
You noticed that as well, Shauna.
01:39:17
Ryan
Yeah, any any last minute, any other other thoughts on the movies? On Mall Run specifically?
01:39:21
Shauna (she/her)
Well, just as we see Silent Bob carrying out the, you know, orangutan named Suzanne at the end of the movie, we are going to carry forth our momentum from this episode into our next episode, where we too, as we go off into the sunset, we are then going to then be seen later in Jayon Silent Bob Strikes Back.
01:39:46
Anthony
So and who who is Jay and who is Silent Bob and who is Suzanne in this trio here?
01:39:47
Ryan
That's correct.
01:39:52
Ryan
Anthony, I hate that you said that because I was already thinking in my head. And of course, I was like, well, Sean is Jay because long hair and you're Silent Bob because you're Silent Bob.
01:40:04
Anthony
Yeah.
01:40:04
Ryan
I'm not going to be the monkey. That's too racially charged.
01:40:06
Anthony
yeah yeah That's why I asked.
01:40:06
Shauna (she/her)
Nope.
01:40:07
Ryan
It can't happen.
01:40:07
Shauna (she/her)
Nope.
01:40:07
Anthony
I was like, we can't just do that to Ryan because we we need to be like culturally sensitive and and like, you know, not awful.
01:40:08
Shauna (she/her)
Nope.
01:40:09
Ryan
You have to be the monkey. Yes.
01:40:13
Ryan
Yes.
01:40:15
Anthony
And so we can't do that to Ryan.
01:40:15
Ryan
I'm not going to be the monkey.
01:40:16
Anthony
Yeah, I'll be Suzanne.
01:40:17
Ryan
No.
01:40:17
Shauna (she/her)
Well... Yeah, like like like a Brody...
01:40:18
Ryan
I'll be signing on Bob.
01:40:19
Shauna (she/her)
You're a Brody who doesn't suck. I think that's the answer.
01:40:21
Ryan
Sure.
01:40:22
Shauna (she/her)
is the in the As the actual...
01:40:23
Ryan
Yeah, sure. I'm not. that No one's the monkey.
01:40:24
Shauna (she/her)
But... Well, no, yeah, I think let's just go ahead and safely say that.
01:40:29
Ryan
Yeah.
01:40:30
Shauna (she/her)
Yeah.
01:40:30
Ryan
Yeah. Yeah.
01:40:30
Shauna (she/her)
The, like...
01:40:31
Ryan
Except though, I think really in theory, when when i like think about it in a giggly way, like Anthony and I have always kind of been like Jay and Silent Bob. like I was kind of the louder of, well, no, not volume wise.
01:40:45
Ryan
Anthony has always been like louder than me, but as loud as me.
01:40:49
Anthony
accurate
01:40:49
Ryan
But like of the two of us socially, I think you know I was a little more,
01:40:54
Ryan
so he was never like the quiet one but of those two archetypes i definitely think i'm j anthony is silent bob so shauna you're suzanne
01:41:02
Anthony
bri Ryan warms up to strangers faster than I do.
01:41:04
Shauna (she/her)
okay
01:41:07
Anthony
So there are certain social situations where I am the silent Bob kind of reading things out before i get in. And Ryan's just like, hey, what's the fuck's up?
01:41:16
Ryan
Yeah.
01:41:17
Anthony
like Charisma, let's be friends.
01:41:18
Ryan
Yeah. Yeah.
01:41:20
Anthony
And so yeah that then and also in my like you know past heftier years when I definitely had more of the body type of a silent Bob,
01:41:21
Ryan
Uniqueness, nerve, and...
01:41:28
Anthony
like Lunchbox, tons of fun, very routine nicknames that my friends, yeah, one like Jake Harigel, even like into our 20s, would call me Lunchbox and tons of fun routinely.
01:41:32
Ryan
Yeah, we do... Yeah, Lunchbox was a nickname for a while.
01:41:42
Anthony
so ah
01:41:43
Ryan
No.
01:41:44
Anthony
And now I'm in better shape than him.
01:41:44
Ryan
no
01:41:45
Anthony
So bag of dicks, Jake.
01:41:47
Ryan
ah
01:41:48
Anthony
There we go. I am now a hot nerd.
01:41:49
Ryan
And also, Kevin...
01:41:50
Anthony
I was just a nerd. Now I am a hot nerd. So there you go.
01:41:53
Ryan
Kevin Smith is also super trim now, too. So, you know, it works.
01:41:55
Anthony
He is. Yeah, good. Yeah, he looks great. I'm happy for him.
01:41:59
Ryan
Um... Yeah, so we're going to pick up and Silent Bob Strike Back in part two of our Jay and Silent Bob-themed episodes in the View-esque universe.
01:42:13
Ryan
um Who knew that we would have literally so much shit to talk about these movies? um
01:42:17
Anthony
you guys brought a certified yapper on your podcast and then you were shocked that it was an hour and 45 minutes just talking about one movie.
01:42:18
Ryan
But again,
01:42:23
Anthony
I mean, here we are.
01:42:26
Ryan
I'm proud.
01:42:26
Shauna (she/her)
ah
01:42:26
Ryan
um Yeah, go ahead, John.
01:42:27
Shauna (she/her)
Kevin Smith speaks to monologues. It's kind of the it's part and parcel.
01:42:32
Anthony
It's that is much a good take, Shawna.
01:42:32
Ryan
It's like... I
01:42:34
Anthony
Well done.
01:42:36
Ryan
i was talking about it. um There is a drag queen on Drag Race this season named Susie Toot who I don't particularly like. I don't like her drag.
01:42:44
Shauna (she/her)
your favorite
01:42:45
Ryan
someone Notoriously my favorite. um
01:42:49
Shauna (she/her)
but
01:42:50
Ryan
I don't particularly like her drag because I think it's bad. um But I also find her to be irritating because she is quite self-important and I have to only...
01:43:01
Ryan
be able to acknowledge that I am very much ah like I'm annoyed by her because I would probably, you know, be perceived by her, but as the same way as her, just like I said, this ah script is verbose and obviously, you know, it takes one to know when you fucking yapper.
01:43:17
Ryan
So on that note, let's get to these final parts of the, the episode, which are our fate, some of our favorite questions.
01:43:19
Shauna (she/her)
Yeah.
01:43:26
Ryan
Yeah. The first of which being who is the hottest character in Mallrats? And this is actually a hard one because we have had some ones where it was like not hard. This is actually kind of hard.
01:43:38
Shauna (she/her)
Yeah, because Shannon Doherty is hot as hell.
01:43:38
Ryan
Shauna, please.
01:43:40
Shauna (she/her)
I honestly, i will always, always, always have a very soft spot and a real attraction to Jenny, to um Joey Lauren Adams. I think she is just, you know, I mean, and let's honest, we get this, like, again, when you think of, like, oh, the things, you get to see her, like, oh my gosh, like like, that was, like, one of those, like, moments that, like, I remember, like,
01:43:50
Ryan
Mm. Go on one.
01:43:55
Ryan
You get to see tits.
01:44:02
Shauna (she/her)
seeing on AOL, like, waiting for it to load, like, well, like, that, like, one of the, like, God, that's dating myself in all sorts of ways, but that, like, that's the, but that was the kind of like, the back then internet, yeah.
01:44:11
Ryan
Yeah, no.
01:44:15
Anthony
yeah the chi You some hoops when you were already teenagers to see some titties on the internet. Now it's like, boom, instant.
01:44:21
Ryan
Yeah.
01:44:22
Anthony
You know you' had to wait for that shit to load.
01:44:25
Ryan
Load.
01:44:25
Anthony
Yeah.
01:44:25
Shauna (she/her)
Oh, yeah.
01:44:25
Ryan
I was just thinking, imagine waiting for one single picture to load. Just one picture.
01:44:30
Anthony
Yep.
01:44:32
Ryan
Now I'm like, a website takes more than 30 seconds to load all of its content, and I'm like, what the fuck?
01:44:37
Anthony
visit
01:44:37
Shauna (she/her)
And you know now there's just gooning, which is in many ways just waiting to load.
01:44:42
Ryan
SHAUNA!
01:44:42
Anthony
and
01:44:46
Anthony
ah
01:44:46
Ryan
You are fucking wild.
01:44:48
Anthony
Shut it down!
01:44:51
Ryan
Oh my god. ah
01:44:53
Anthony
Oh, can we, can we like soundboarded some air horns right now?
01:44:57
Ryan
Yeah, and ah wait, I think I can do at least...
01:44:58
Shauna (she/her)
and
01:45:00
Ryan
Wait.
01:45:01
Anthony
Oh, yeah.
01:45:02
Ryan
man.
01:45:04
Anthony
That's the line of the episode. We've arrived.
01:45:06
Ryan
Oh man.
01:45:06
Anthony
Fucking killer.
01:45:07
Ryan
I haven't been using this. This is our 18th episode of this is our 18th episode of this show and I have yet to use.
01:45:13
Anthony
Good try, good try.
01:45:14
Shauna (she/her)
yeah
01:45:17
Anthony
Yeah, you have a soundboard.
01:45:18
Ryan
I'm going to be so annoying.
01:45:18
Shauna (she/her)
Oh what terrible...
01:45:19
Anthony
Flux that, dude. You have a power for great good with that soundboard and great evil.
01:45:20
Ryan
Yeah.
01:45:23
Anthony
Like, you, yeah, you hold the power.
01:45:24
Ryan
Uh oh. Uh
01:45:25
Shauna (she/her)
Yeah. Pandora's box has been opened. Funny sounds came out.
01:45:29
Anthony
Oh, man. But add some air horn to it for sure.
01:45:30
Ryan
oh.
01:45:33
Ryan
Anthony, who do you think is the hottest person in Mallrats?
01:45:36
Anthony
Shauna stole my thunder. but It was not hard for me. Gwyn, final answer. Next question.
01:45:40
Ryan
Yeah.
01:45:41
Anthony
Smoke show.
01:45:41
Ryan
Yeah. Super, super hottie.
01:45:43
Anthony
I mean, no notes. Yeah.
01:45:46
Ryan
Um, Shannon Doherty is, I've been in love with Shannon Doherty since I was a kid. Like I'm obsessed with her. I'm obsessed with her in this movie. I'm obsessed with her but specifically.
01:45:59
Ryan
um actually no, all of her outfits are cute. Like the way that her little boots scoot out of the window when she's sneaking out of, um, Brody's basement room. um But at the end, when she becomes the lead of the band for The Tonight Show alongside Brody, she's wearing this like oversized black suit jacket with like a black bandeau top.
01:46:21
Ryan
And I didn't notice it until just this previous viewing. She's wearing like a super long skirt with like a huge slit up up the side and you can see her leg
01:46:30
Shauna (she/her)
o
01:46:32
Ryan
You want to talk about no notes.
01:46:32
Shauna (she/her)
Oh. I love that.
01:46:33
Ryan
You want to talk about no notes. Miss Doherty, let the girls breathe. Let the girls breathe. Justice for Shannon Doherty. RIP Shannon Doherty. We miss you. yeah um Okay.
01:46:44
Ryan
um And anything nerdy that we're looking forward to? What are we what are we hype about?
01:46:51
Anthony
Actually, while we were on break, Shauna and I were nerding out about the pending early access release of Slay the Spire 2. So nerds out there, if you respect any of Shauna or mine's opinions on anything, especially related to gaming...
01:47:01
Shauna (she/her)
Very excited.
01:47:08
Ryan
Yeah.
01:47:08
Anthony
Go buy yourself Slay the Spire 1 right the fuck now.
01:47:08
Ryan
Yeah.
01:47:11
Anthony
You can get it on your phone. It's on every console. You have no excuses. It's an indie game. It's made by two people that are just like regular ass dudes who made one of the most fun and addicting games that you will ever play in your life.
01:47:23
Anthony
And um the next one is coming out this year sometime, TBD. And oh my fucking god. Yeah. So excited. So I'm like... rushing through Baldur's Gate trying to finish it because I have to because any self-respecting nerd needs to play that game as well and I haven't finished it yet but um once yeah I'm trying to plow through it and get my Baldur's Gate out of my system because once Slay the Spire 2 comes out I'm just I'm not leaving the house it's gonna be a struggle for real
01:47:37
Ryan
yeah
01:47:50
Ryan
I definitely am now convinced that I need to download Slay the Spire because, again, I do value both of your opinions and Anthony really just hit it home.
01:47:56
Anthony
one of us one of us one of us
01:48:01
Shauna (she/her)
It's fun math.
01:48:03
Anthony
It is.
01:48:03
Shauna (she/her)
It's the good, like, no, but it's the good, like, no, but it's the good.
01:48:04
Ryan
Oh, Shauna just killed it.
01:48:07
Shauna (she/her)
no damn it.
01:48:09
Anthony
it's ah It's a puzzle game, dude.
01:48:09
Shauna (she/her)
It's the good stuff. Like, it's the, yeah, it's a puzzle game.
01:48:10
Anthony
it's yeah It's strategy.
01:48:13
Shauna (she/her)
That's the way
01:48:13
Anthony
It's a big puzzle you have to solve with your cards. and it's ah yeah Infinite replayability.
01:48:18
Shauna (she/her)
I hate math.
01:48:19
Anthony
It's so good.
01:48:20
Shauna (she/her)
Like, I've never felt like I've been good at math, but I love card game math.
01:48:22
Ryan
Bimbo. Bimbo.
01:48:24
Shauna (she/her)
Like, I think that is such and much ah so different.
01:48:25
Ryan
Mm-hmm.
01:48:28
Shauna (she/her)
Like...
01:48:28
Ryan
Yeah, I can see that. I can fuck with that.
01:48:31
Anthony
Yeah. i So... Nerds out there, you're welcome.
01:48:33
Ryan
um
01:48:36
Ryan
The other thing i was trying to Google, I feel like we have more um more nerd shit coming soon to be excited about. Oh, no, Fantastic Four is not until July.
01:48:47
Ryan
But I feel like there's something else that's coming out before like daredevil is finishing what's the next marvel project um thunderbolts is in may i guess i'm excited for that we'll be recording before that you know what i'm looking forward to going to miami this weekend with um our special guest hot nerd because i desperately need to get out of shitty cold weather and into a
01:48:51
Shauna (she/her)
like yours too
01:48:59
Shauna (she/her)
o
01:49:16
Ryan
bathing suit and a cocktail because that sounds delightful.
01:49:20
Anthony
Hell yeah, fuck yeah.
01:49:21
Shauna (she/her)
I want that for you too.
01:49:21
Ryan
any
01:49:22
Anthony
Yeah, we're going to be...
01:49:23
Ryan
Thank you.
01:49:24
Anthony
My older brother is getting married next weekend, finally.
01:49:27
Ryan
e
01:49:27
Anthony
And they are doing a destination wedding in Miami.
01:49:29
Ryan
Literally.
01:49:31
Anthony
So Ryan and I will be peak hot nerd. Like, yeah.
01:49:34
Ryan
Peacock nerd.
01:49:36
Anthony
Really, really strutting our stuff.
01:49:37
Ryan
yeah get Get ready. Get ready. Yeah, my pants are tight. I'll definitely be showing my stuff. um Shauna, is there is there...
01:49:44
Anthony
Attaboy. Get it.
01:49:46
Ryan
Wait, hold on.
01:49:46
Shauna (she/her)
have nothing to add to that.
01:49:46
Ryan
Hold on. Hold on.
01:49:47
Shauna (she/her)
that That's the...
01:49:50
Anthony
ryan Ryan and I will both be on the hunt for cocktail waitresses, but not the same one. So it should work out really good.
01:49:54
Ryan
Correct. Correct. Yeah. you know And we we we um we play off each other quite well, so the possibilities are endless.
01:50:02
Anthony
There you go. Dynamic duo. Although, yeah, we'll have to see. Shots will be shot.
01:50:06
Ryan
Yeah.
01:50:07
Anthony
How successful they are. TBD.
01:50:09
Ryan
Yeah. We'll see. Okay, well, um thanks for joining us on this episode of Real Hot Nerd Shit. You can follow us on Instagram at RealHotNerdPod, and you can follow Shauna and i on Blue Sky at Helen Pastels and at Intuitive Blurred.
01:50:31
Ryan
Anthony doesn't do social media and hasn't forever, and you're the smartest person I know for that. So, good.
01:50:37
Anthony
I'm a ghost. Can't find me. Poof.
01:50:40
Ryan
you Trust me, you don't want to be there.
01:50:41
Anthony
Gone.
01:50:42
Ryan
it's it's all it's There's nothing good except for porn.
01:50:44
Anthony
But yeah, like i had to like I had to give my bona fides because if somebody was like, oh man, this guy Anthony on Ryan and Shauna's podcast sounds so fucking cool. I need to know more about him desperately.
01:50:55
Anthony
His cameo appearances.
01:50:55
Ryan
Yeah.
01:50:56
Anthony
Like, what a guy. And then they go try to look me up on the internets and it's like, you know, oh, there's like two pictures that don't even have him in them from 2006.
01:50:59
Ryan
Yeah.
01:51:04
Anthony
Like, is he a bot? Is he real? Is Ryan's like Ryan? lu So yes, I do exist. Just not in a... In those spaces.
01:51:12
Ryan
not in the socials and all of good choice.
01:51:13
Anthony
Not for me. Hard pass. I'm not that interesting. Like, who needs more straight white guys talking about straight white guy stuff? Like, at capacity.
01:51:20
Shauna (she/her)
I was just thinking that's what the culture really calls for i think when in doubt not not enough is being said yeah
01:51:23
Anthony
Yeah.
01:51:23
Ryan
Yeah.
01:51:23
Anthony
Like, yeah. What about this straight white man's opinion about things, people?
01:51:25
Ryan
And.
01:51:27
Anthony
Like, you know, I have i think thoughts about things, too.
01:51:28
Shauna (she/her)
More space.
01:51:31
Anthony
You know. But no one gives a fuck.
01:51:32
Ryan
Right. Get into it. Um,
01:51:35
Anthony
Yeah.
01:51:36
Ryan
Although they're I'm certain that i I have done my best to scour the ah the Facebook wasteland of photo albums, but I was a really annoying picture taker up until about still to this day, but less so now. But um So there are a lot of pictures of me and Anthony extremely drunk in Athens, Ohio, over the course of four years that I'm not going lie to you, Anthony, I was tempted to find one of them to use for a promo image.
01:51:56
Anthony
um
01:52:10
Ryan
um But I'm not going to do that to either of us.
01:52:14
Anthony
Thank you. i Yeah, if you could go ahead and nuke from orbit all traces of my affliction shirt phase from freshman year and sophomore year of college, that would be... A real solid homie move.
01:52:26
Anthony
Amongst a lot of the real solid homie moves that you have done and will do continue to do for me. That one? Like, yeah, let's nuke that from orbit. I don't... That doesn't need to see the light of day.
01:52:37
Anthony
Please.
01:52:38
Ryan
It was really strong.
01:52:38
Anthony
My children need to respect me.
01:52:39
Ryan
the Holy shit. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And that, I know... In your defense, the specific picture that i know that you were talking about, we are both wearing those style shirts because it was a Jersey Shore-themed party, because it was the year 2009. However...
01:52:56
Anthony
I know, but I'd lord them unironically, and that's the problem.
01:52:57
Ryan
however You did. Correct. Correct.
01:53:00
Anthony
Yes, that is problematic.
01:53:00
Ryan
Correct. That picture is not an appropriate capture of your genuine use of affliction.
01:53:09
Anthony
Yeah.
01:53:09
Ryan
But, you know, again.
01:53:10
Anthony
Although, that one particular shirt had the ring race on it from the Lord of the Rings. So it was actually nerdy as fuck, but it was also an Affliction shirt.
01:53:17
Ryan
Work.
01:53:17
Anthony
So it's like...
01:53:18
Ryan
Work.
01:53:19
Anthony
Yeah.
01:53:19
Ryan
You know.
01:53:20
Anthony
Still does not pass. It does not pass.
01:53:22
Ryan
That's all right. There's plenty of time. right, gang. Thanks so much for joining us. um We will see you in part Peace out. sir