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Solitary Recap
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Sayid's search for answers leads to a shocking encounter with a mysterious island inhabitant. In this episode, we dive into Sayid's backstory, the morality of his actions, and what this meeting means for the island’s secrets. Our uncle revisits the intense early theories surrounding Rousseau, while Nick tries to decode the cryptic clues left behind. Tension and mystery take center stage!
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Introduction & Podcast Concept
00:00:21
Speaker
Terrific You're listening to the lost with my uncle podcast I'm Aaron DS and I'll be rewatching lost Along with my nephew Nick who will be watching it for the very first time So come along with us and enjoy the journey Let's get lost let's get lost
00:00:51
Speaker
Hello and welcome into the show. And welcome back to the Lost with My Uncle podcast, your 20th anniversary deep dive into every episode of Lost.
Discussing 'Solitary': First In-Person Recording
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Speaker
I'm Aaron Diaz, joined as always by my co-host and nephew, Nick.
00:01:07
Speaker
And we've got a special episode for you today, or at least it was special to us as a podcast. Nick and I were actually in the same city and state for a few days last week. And so we were able to sit down and watch season one, episode nine, which is called solitary together. And that's what we're gonna break down for you today. So I really enjoyed being in the room with you, Nick. It was super fun. I mean, yeah, I mean, it was awesome. It was awesome. I think,
00:01:35
Speaker
You saw how reactionary I am. Reactionary? Is that a word? I think you saw how how much I react to um the actual episode in real time. I don't just sit there and watch. You saw me yap and put my hand up to my mouth as my jaw was hanging wide open during some of those moments.
00:01:54
Speaker
Yup. You really saw that. I loved it. I thought this was a fantastic episode. like And obviously it gets a little bit more points because we watched it together.
Significance of Episode 9: Character Development and Mysteries
00:02:05
Speaker
But I think this episode was like really good for like the actual story of Lost. We progressed a lot. on like I don't want to say mysteries, but like on we questions were answered.
00:02:19
Speaker
Yes. Yeah. It was definitely an episode that dug a little bit deeper into the, some of the mysteries of the island. And I think momentum is a good word. You know, the last episode we really sort of, we had those different threads that were running and then we gained some of that momentum and it all led us to Said's story. Yes. and Awesome.
00:02:41
Speaker
Well, now that the podcast is officially live and as we continue to grow our listenership, we'd love to hear your thoughts and theories. So send us your comments and questions along with your name, where you're from, and we will try to feature those in an upcoming episode. You can email lostwithmyunclepodatgmail.com. Again, that's lostwithmyunclepodatgmail.com. So without further ado, it is time to get lost. Let's do it.
Intrigues of the Island: Said's Discovery
00:03:12
Speaker
So the episode begins on island with Said sitting alone on the beach and looking at the picture that he carries with him of the random woman. She's random to us because we have no idea who she is. And he's been carrying that photo around with him. And so as he is staring at the sand and water,
00:03:33
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presumably reflecting on the events of the last episode, the aftermath of of the torture of Sawyer, he notices a rope sticking up out of the sand.
00:03:45
Speaker
And one, it's very interesting, is one end goes directly towards the ocean and the other leads up to the jungle. So he pulls the rope out of the sand and then takes off towards the jungle following the rope. So this episode is going to deal with a lot of that aftermath we talked about from the previous episode, Said's journey here. And back with our survivors, this episode is is also dealing with that aftermath for Sawyer, Jack, and Kate.
Interpersonal Tensions: Jack and Sawyer
00:04:13
Speaker
We see Jack changing Sawyer's bandage, but as per usual, Sawyer is talking trash to Jack instead of being grateful. And he's saying that the only reason you're here helping me is because of the guilt that you feel from letting Saeed torture me. And Jack says, I'm here because no one else wants anything to do with you. And Sawyer replies, she does, talking about Kate. Jack tells him, you know what, you can change your own bandages and storms off.
00:04:42
Speaker
Then in the next scene, we see he and Kate discussing the aftermath of what happened because Kate is worried about Said and how long he's already been gone. Yeah, let's let's talk about a few of those things. Let's do it. One, how in the world did he see that rope?
00:05:01
Speaker
I have no idea. I didn't even see the rope. i Yeah. And they like clearly put the the camera on
Exploring the Mysterious Rope and New Enigmas
00:05:07
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it for like a solid five seconds. I was like, what are we looking at? Um, I thought it was, I didn't think it was a rope at first. I thought it was like a hatch. I thought he was going to open like a trap door. Um, that's what I thought at first. Um, yeah. And I was, and I was going to ask before you said is a, we have never seen this woman before. This is the first time we're seeing her ever.
00:05:29
Speaker
Correct. Okay, cool. and I thought so. um Also, I'm a really big Jack fan, but that is a horrible doctor move to just like be like, oh yeah, do your own bandages. That's horrible. Partially because you're the reason that Sawyer got stabbed in the first place. Because you wanted to torture him.
00:05:51
Speaker
and Well, yeah you know you know, granted it Sawyer kind of did mislead them by making it seem like he had the inhalers. But very, he's very, Jack has been very swayed. I feel like at the beginning, he was very logical and very doctor-like. And now I feel like he's very swayed by emotions. I don't know if that's like a shift that I've noticed, um but he seems very swayed by emotions as of recently.
00:06:16
Speaker
Yeah, interesting. No, that's very true. He's definitely affected by the triangle with he and Kate and the Sawyer as the yeah interest of Kate for sure. yeah So it'll be interesting to see how he continues to act or react.
Said's Jungle Trap: Character Arc
00:06:38
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So back to Said, he is wandering alone through the jungle following the rope and he sees some trip lines with traps and he thinks he can get around them, but he ends up being caught in a trap.
00:06:49
Speaker
And as he is sort of caught by the the ankle inside of a rope, he's dangling from but from the tree and swinging, and he ends up getting a tree limb lodged into his leg, and the pain knocks him out. And then when he comes to, he hears someone, and this is the woman you were alluding to, and he gets cut down from the net and passes out again. And then back to the beach,
00:07:17
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Lots of back and forth on this opening section and then things kind of straighten out a little bit here. ah Jack and Hurley have a fun conversation about how they are all stressed out. Hurley thinks it would be helpful if the survivors had quote, something to do. And Jack says, we're surviving here, Hurley, things could be worse. And Hurley, in one of the best responses of the episode, says in a loud and surprised voice, how? Yeah.
00:07:43
Speaker
So I know you like that Hurley line. I love that Hurley line. I love it Hurley line so much and like it's this honestly this episode was I don't okay Do I think
Comic Relief: Hurley's Golf Tournament
00:07:55
Speaker
it's the best episode? No, but I think for me I think it might be my favorite so far Even though I don't want it to be the best, I think it might be my favorite. um Very interesting. My favorite or my second favorite? Because I might like Walkabout better. White Rabbit was good, but I think this tops White Rabbit in my opinion. for for Not because I think it's a better episode, because it's my favorite. I love the um the whole beach scenes, this whole episode.
00:08:28
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I love the whole thing. And I think we get so many answers from the Said point of view. And and I have said, I think I said this in the pilot episode, or maybe I said this in Tabula Rasa, Said was one of my favorite characters ah towards the beginning. He was one of my favorite characters like from the get go. And so now he's he's kind of back on top with this episode. Yeah.
Flashbacks: Said's Past as an Interrogator
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And then Saeed wakes up bound in a dark room, and he's confronted by a woman who keeps asking, where is Alex? Where is Alex? And but even before I think we realized that it was a woman, you know, we're hearing that voice, where's Alex? Where's Alex? And this woman as we'll soon learn is Danielle Rousseau. But as Danielle starts to sort of question Saeed and electrocute him, because he's not giving her answers about Alex,
00:09:27
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As Said yells stop, we cut to our first off-island flashback that takes us back to Said's past as an interrogator for the Republican Guard. And we see him interrogating a prisoner in Iraq using psychological tactics to extract information.
00:09:43
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So I thought it was a really cool transition there, Nick. Yeah, I did too. I thought the whole thing was done really well. I liked all the Said flashbacks. And especially since, you know, we technically didn't, we weren't entirely sure if Said was a torturer.
00:10:00
Speaker
Because especially when Said or Sawyer was like, oh, yeah, i I don't even believe that you were in the military. I think you're just making that up. And then he was like, oh, yeah, well, I was. So this is like confirmation. Another thing that I really, really, really thought was was cool is it kind of like showcased like how Said was extremely important in ah the what Republican Guard.
00:10:20
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oh and another thing last thing that I will say I love that he is talking in I want to say it's Arabic but I could be completely wrong in talking in a different language and then uh the camera passes the guy's head so you don't see Said for a second and then it passes to the other side of Said's head and he's talking in English so It almost infers that in the the whole time that we're in a Said flashback, they are speaking this different language, but the heat that this is just a translation for us.
00:10:55
Speaker
And I love i think that. I think that's so cool when movies or shows do that, when like they are speaking a different language, but like the show has almost like translated it for us, but like they show it. like they They show that it is a different language. um I think that's so cool. For sure. I thought that was an amazing scene. And it shows like how valuable Said really is. Absolutely.
Introduction of Danielle Rousseau and Her Impact
00:11:24
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And as the first flashback ends, we see the woman who Said carries a picture of being brought into custody of the Republican Guard. Yeah. Crazy. Like, actually crazy. know i was I was really surprised. I was like, is she they're just there because he is? I was like, what's going on? Yeah. Crazy. Yeah, very cool.
00:11:48
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And then back on the island, as alluded to earlier, Said learns that his captor is Danielle Rousseau and she is the French woman who's been stranded on the island for 16 years. So Said tells her that he heard her transmission and Danielle is a very skeptical person. So she keeps accusing Said of lying, but as he opens up to her about Nadia, she begins to open up to him.
00:12:14
Speaker
and she tells Said about her tragic backstory, including how she was part of a science expedition that ended in disaster. So Danielle is definitely a significant new character, and we got ah got a few new characters this episode, but her presence definitely both answered some questions, raises some other questions about the island. um you know But at least we solved a mystery or one of your predictions, theories, you know things that we talked about early on in this episode, Nick, so that was cool.
00:12:44
Speaker
Yeah, I thought the whole... i did I mean, I thought we would find out who it was if she was either dead or alive. I'm glad that she was alive. I'm glad that they made that decision. But we've, like like you said, we've learned about new characters now that we know were on the island, or one of them was Robert. Robert was on the island. And Alex is still on the island somewhere. So... And then it took them, like she was saying that they they were going crazy. I don't know if they were going crazy or if she was going crazy or they were all going crazy. I don't know what was going on. It does raise so many questions. So many. And she speaks of the others, which means there's multiple, not just Alex, there is multiple. It's almost like
00:13:35
Speaker
with the show, we were given multiple threads of incompleted stories, and then now this is building off of one of those incompleted stories, and now we have even more incompleted stories. So like there's just so much to solve, and I'm so
Said and Nadia: Complex Relationship
00:13:50
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excited. Absolutely. And then we get into another flashback, and the second flashback delves a little deeper into Said's past, revealing his relationship with the woman, and we find out that her name is Nadia.
00:14:04
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and he has been ordered to interrogate her. But we find out that they grew up together and that she was always sweet on him, and he was not noticing her cues as a child. And despite his role as her interrogator, Said, you know, clearly is developing feelings or has always had them, you know, from back when he was younger. And so it's kind of complicating his sense of duty here. Yeah, I mean, he,
00:14:33
Speaker
is very, like he keeps saying, oh, I'll hurt you. like you know You know I'm going to hurt you, but he never does. I don't think he ever does. um It's interesting to see how he has that sort of different side with Nadia, especially because he's like, oh, I know who you are and I actually do have feelings for you. The only thing that I thought was kind of weird is how fast he actually did getting feelings for her. He's like, oh, I haven't seen you since elementary school. Oh, I'm in love. yeah it's like crazy. And he even goes and apologizes to what the other um interrogators did to her. I think that was pretty monumental and the and in itself. Yeah, it's it's very interesting to see Said struggle here in this episode. And, you know, we saw it a little bit already last week with Sawyer. Yeah.
00:15:25
Speaker
He definitely struggles to, I think, do the right thing, and he's torn on what the right thing is at times, but he also at his core is a good person.
00:15:37
Speaker
Yeah. Also, to your point, I'm not sure that he didn't torture her son because I think we saw little clues on some of the different scenes where she had been tortured in between other scenes with him. And um my assumption is that he would have had to be the one doing that since that was the expectation by his supervisor and and whatever. Right. Right. I mean, obviously, it never shows us that, but that's almost where that's where my mind went on it.
00:16:07
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yeah
00:16:09
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And then this episode also had a a really fun subplot that centered around Hurley. So back at the caves, he's digging for something in a bag, and Jack says, Hurley. And he says, hold on, man, I'm busy. And Jack's like, what are you doing? And Hurley just turns, looks at him, and gives him an almost maniacal laugh or chuckle, and then walks off. I i love, I love.
00:16:36
Speaker
i love I love this whole part. it's I can imagine that the lost community might be torn about this. I feel like this this would be something the lost community would be torn about. Either people love this part, or they hate it because they think it's useless.
00:16:53
Speaker
I love it. I think it is hilarious. I think it is hurly. I think it is hilarious again. I think it's hurly again. um It's amazing. i just I loved every second of it. um Agreed. It's so funny. It's so funny. Like the like like the reveal is is great. Oh, yeah, it's amazing.
00:17:15
Speaker
it's It's so funny. The way he turns around, okay, wait, I'll let you i'll let you i'll let you say the reveal all right for people who may have not watched the episode and are getting their episode through this. Yeah, absolutely. And also, if you haven't watched the episode or you're getting it through this, please watch the episodes before the podcast, my friends. It's so good. So then in the next scene regarding this subplot, Charlie comes running into the cave and says, hey, Jack, Hurley's all worked up about something and says you should come see it.
00:17:42
Speaker
We then pan to probably one of the most beautifully filmed areas of the island that we've seen. I mean, I'm talking about wide open grassy area with some mountains on one side and the ocean still off in the distance. And then we see Hurley standing with a flag and some golf clubs. And he says, welcome to the first and hopefully last island open.
Morale Boost: Hurley's Golf Tournament
00:18:02
Speaker
And after he gets pushed back from Jack and Michael, he says, our lives suck. We've been chased around this jungle by boars and monsters and polar bears, to which Michael apparently hadn't gotten the memo about the polar bears, Nick, but what a fun scene.
00:18:16
Speaker
I loved it. I loved every second. I love the turnaround. I love the suspense. I love that they actually sit and they don't, there's not much on the actual beach. It's a very Said centered episode. They don't do much. They play golf on the beach. I love it. I love it so much. Like they have so much fun with just sitting and playing golf. I love it. Like it's insane. Um, I got so much enjoyment out of it.
00:18:43
Speaker
for sure. And especially like when they start making bets on it later. Oh, it's awesome. It is and and loss can be such an intense show that these scenes just really help help bring you back a little bit from that.
00:18:57
Speaker
yeah So keeping with this thread, and then we'll get back to some of the Said stuff that was going on in this episode, but our group of golfers ends up growing over the next few scenes as the other survivors start hearing about the fun that the group is having. Kate even talks Sawyer into coming out by saying, a piece of advice from one outsider to another, you might want to try a little harder.
00:19:20
Speaker
And so Kate arrives at the golf course and there's some hilarious scenes where Hurley is trying to hit the ball. Charlie comes up, wraps his arms around him from behind to show him how to swing and Hurley's like, dude, get away from me. And then Jack is getting ready to swing. And like you mentioned, people are starting to take wagers on him. When Sawyer's voice comes out of nowhere and he says, I've got two tubes of sunscreen and a flashlight that says he chokes.
00:19:45
Speaker
And everybody just stops silent and is just scowling at Sawyer. And so he you know kind of gets this defeated smirk and he's getting ready to walk off and Kate says, I'll take that action. And so he ends up sticking around.
00:19:58
Speaker
I think the Hurley and Charlie dynamic has a possibility to be my favorite dynamic in the whole show. If we get more of them, I love them. big I think they're hilarious. Oh yeah. They're besties for sure. and i I like, I love that. um And I love Hurley being like, get off of me, man.
00:20:15
Speaker
um I love that. I like that Sawyer was able to stick around. I think that this kind of cleared the air around the whole, you know, how he got so much crap from last episode. I think this cleared the air a little bit because a lot of people started taking that bet and whatnot. Yeah. Good to see. Yeah. And then back to Saeed.
00:20:39
Speaker
Rousseau and Said continue to have interesting discussions, and she continues to reveal more about the island's
Rousseau's Warning: Enhancing Intrigue
00:20:46
Speaker
dangers. She talks about how they were on a science expedition and three days out of Tahiti when they hit a storm. They ended up crashing on the island. They made camp for about two weeks, and then bad things started happening. So she brings up something called the Black Rock and mentions someone being the carriers. And Said is like, who? Who are the carriers?
00:21:09
Speaker
And she says the others. And then she talks about the whispers and how she can hear them. But her mental state really makes it hard to know what's real and what might be paranoia here. Right. I have literally no idea. I am like, again, this just raises so many questions. Oh, yeah I have no idea. The BlackRock what in the world I thought that might be like a landmark.
00:21:33
Speaker
Could be, yeah. Like something of significance. ah like like ah Like a rock that's black? Well, yeah, but like like I was thinking of like a big thing. Like maybe there's something like in the middle of the island. yeah um Or something I've thought of literally just right now in this second. um The um backgaon get backgammon Oh yeah. How one person had the light rock and one person had the dark rock. Maybe that's the maybe that's the black rock. Hmm.
00:22:00
Speaker
I don't know who the carriers are. I'm assuming they're carrying something important because they're called the carriers. I also wonder why they have the name The Others, which makes me think that there is a third group of people, because there's Danielle's group, there's the group that we know, and then there's The Others, which is what I think off the top of my head. Yeah, ah it's interesting. I'm interested to see how Said pieces this together and how he gives it to everyone else. Yeah.
00:22:36
Speaker
Yeah, very interesting. lots of Lots of mysteries added, I think, to our plate. Yeah. So where where one question maybe got answered about the French transmission and if there are any survivors, we got several additional things added. Right. That's okay. That's what we live for here. Yeah, it's it's true. That's what we live for. That's the whole point of this show.
00:22:59
Speaker
So Saeed tries to get Danielle to let him go, and she says he can't leave, that it's not safe out there. Then they hear something roaring in the jungle, and as Danielle grabs her gun and starts to head out of her little bunker or safe house that she has built for herself, Saeed says, it might be that thing out there, the monster, to which she replies, there's no such thing as monsters.
00:23:25
Speaker
Yes, there is. Yes, there is. yeah Yes, there is. We've heard it. and but we've seen We've seen it kill people. Yes, there is. yeah We know there are monsters. 100%. Unless it's the others, and there is some and it is mechanical, and it's some sort of mechanicalness, which could be, but I do think there are magical powers in this island. I think there is some magic involved. Me too.
00:23:56
Speaker
yeah And then as we transition to the final off-island flashback, it shows Said's superior officer telling him that he's going to have to execute Nadia.
Moral Complexity: Said Helps Nadia Escape
00:24:08
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And we, we see it appear as if Said is going to do so and follow through with it. Then at the last second, he ends up helping her escape, even though it means betraying his own people. He arranges her release, but their plan is discovered leading to a tense standoff.
00:24:25
Speaker
Said ends up shooting and killing his superior officer. He then shoots himself in the leg and gives Nadia the gun, letting her escape. And as she leaves, she gives him her picture that he's been carrying around on Island and he focuses in on the writing on the back. So that was very interesting. The whole, this whole flashback, I don't know if you heard or saw me, I was like stunned,
00:24:52
Speaker
literally stunned. I think I did, yeah. i was i was I was intrigued by your responses throughout the whole episode, looking over to see how you would react. I i hadn like i would never have expected like the the scar that he got from being shot was when he shot himself. Never in a million years would have expected that. um And he did it for Nadia and we don't even know if she like made it or not. She, cause he said that she was dead, but I think he's, he didn't he say he's like just assuming that because he doesn't know. I think that's what he said. Yeah, I think so. Yeah. He said it in a couple of different places. The first, the first time he said, you know, I killed her or something like that. Yeah.
00:25:40
Speaker
And then then later, I think he did dispute that a little bit, saying he's been looking for her for seven years or something to that effect. Right. So it just shows how his choices are like so impactful to him. like Even now, they're holding so much weight.
00:25:57
Speaker
and you can like really see, especially how he chooses love over like his his duty. And then like, we kind of see how he, we kind of see, it's kind of like a parallel, or I guess I would say like a opposite to the Sawyer episode where he doesn't really think he kind of just does. um And he doesn't have any of that morality. He kind of just does his duty to be the torturer, you know? Yeah. So,
00:26:23
Speaker
I think it's kind of like an opposite kind of thing that we see from last episode. Very, very interesting stuff. Yeah. Then back on island, Said does manage to escape Russo's trap or chains that that she's got
Said's Escape and New Mysteries
00:26:41
Speaker
him in. But not before he takes a piece of vital information, which is a map of the island that Russo has in there. He grabs them all, throws them in his backpack.
00:26:51
Speaker
And as he's running through the jungle, he actually comes across Danielle and they have a face off while both are holding each other at gunpoint. Said ends up pulling the trigger first, but it just clicks. And Danielle says the firing pin has been removed. Robert didn't notice either when I shot him. And we find out that she thought that Robert and the rest of her science expedition crew were sick.
00:27:15
Speaker
And she also used the term already lost. And she wonders what would have happened if they had been rescued. She then acts as if she will shoot Saeed and he says, I'm not sick. Why shoot me? And Danielle essentially says that she's lonely and can't let him leave. Saeed then makes a cool statement that has a double meaning. He says, you'll find me in the next life, if not in this one. And we find out that it was the writing on the back of the photograph.
00:27:46
Speaker
He talks about how he knows what it's like to hold on to someone. He says he's going back to his people because the only way off this place is with their help. And then he invites her to come with him. And she declines saying, your people, the ones that you need to get back to, watch them. Watch them closely. And as she's walking off, Said once again asks, Danielle, who is Alex? And we find out that Alex was her child.
00:28:12
Speaker
Wow. Wow to this whole scene. Wow to this entire scene. Yes. The map, very important. The map is very important. The firing pin being removed and that being the way that she killed Robert. Crazy. You gotta give her credit though. That's pretty freaking smart. And how they were sick.
00:28:36
Speaker
I don't think they were sick, I think they just went insane. Or maybe she is sane and maybe they didn't go sick. I have no idea. um And um they said the name they said the name of the show, already lost. Yeah.
00:28:48
Speaker
And I do love the the double meaning. I do love that you'll find me in the next life. It's not this one. I love that. I thought that was really nice. I thought that was like the cherry on top to end, to sort of close out the Said and Nadia story a little bit, but also apply it to this like very heavy intense moment. Oh, it it was brilliant. Yeah, it was brilliant.
00:29:10
Speaker
I can't believe she didn't go back with him. I thought she would go with him and then we would inherit a new member. I guess not. I wonder why she asks him to watch them.
00:29:21
Speaker
What is happening? like what do you What is she planning? What does she know? Why didn't she just tell him directly what would happen? That's my question. And also, Alex being her child, mind cabloned. Never would have expected that, ever, in a million years. And so Alex is alive, so her kid is alive. Did she try and kill her kid because her kid was sick? That's my question.
00:29:45
Speaker
oh ah So many unanswered questions around her. So many. So many. And we have to hope that in the coming episodes that we're going to get some more tidbits of information or that they're going to come across her again. Right.
00:30:02
Speaker
And as the episode ends this week with Said on his way back to the beach, he is surrounded by wind and starts hearing the very whispers that Danielle was talking about.
Episode Recap: Character Exploration and Mysteries
00:30:12
Speaker
And then we fade to black with Lost hitting our screens. And I know that you had a very, what's the word, visceral response to this, Nick? Yes, I did. At the end of the episode. I did.
00:30:26
Speaker
I was very annoyed. I was very annoyed that we that we don't know if he made it back or not. I was very annoyed. I i hope he makes it, because I think it's still possible that he dies. I don't think they would kill him off, especially since we got all that backstory, but I am praying that he makes it back okay. hu Well, that brings up a good question, Nick, because we haven't really had We haven't really lost any of the main characters so far. Obviously the pilot, right you know, can't really consider him a main character. He could have been like, obviously he was ah a big time actor, Greg Gunberg. He's been in a lot of stuff. He was in Heroes and and other shows. yeah yeah um But we haven't lost the main character. So do you think we're going to lose some main characters? What do you think the frequency of that's going to be? What are your thoughts on that?
00:31:18
Speaker
Um, I'll give you two answers. I'll give you my what I would say, and then what I will say. What I would say is, no, they're probably not gonna kill anybody off until mid season two, maybe the end of season two. ah However, this is lost. That is what my answer is now.
00:31:38
Speaker
they could kill off anyone at any moment. I feel like the show is so unpredictable and that's what makes it so freaking good is that like the twists that you never see coming. I think there's just so many directions that they can go and the writers had brilliant ideas. Yeah, I think the whole thing is just crazy. For sure.
00:32:01
Speaker
So we got a good look into Said this episode, you know who he is, who he was previously, what brought him to this place, and and really dug a lot deeper into some of the early mysteries of the island that we had talked about regarding French transmission and and things like that, which was cool. So you said that it's potentially your favorite episode. What would you, where would you rate this right now? um It's my favorite. That doesn't mean I think it's the best.
00:32:28
Speaker
I feel like I've been rating the episodes. like If I give you a number, it's how it's kind of a combination of how I interpret it and how I think about it as an episode. I think this is a solid 8.5 on the list. I don't think it's like and don't think it's a necessarily like great episode. I don't think there's too too much that like happens like there's not like we can't like going about multiple multiple multiple events and that's why this episode is probably gonna be a little bit shorter is Because there's not really too much to talk about especially since there's not much happening on the island
00:33:04
Speaker
Or, sorry, on the beach. I think for me, I loved the whole golf thing. I loved that. That like that might be one of my favorite moments, because it's like it shows a different side of the island. mom That's one. Two, i I mean, I was always a really big fan of Said, and seeing this side of him, I like i'm um i'm i really it. I'm imagining once I get a Hurley backstory that that episode is gonna jump to my top.
00:33:32
Speaker
my favorite once we get a Hurley episode because I will say i I love Hurley. He's my favorite of all time. Yeah. So, you know, I think that's my viewpoint. I think 8.5 is a really solid. I think it was a really solid episode.
00:33:46
Speaker
Agreed, and then like we got so many and like questions answered, not really, but we got so we got one question answered and then we also got a bunch of new questions and kind of gave us insight and like my theories will probably go on and on and on as I think about it. I'll give you what I have when we get to our section about it, but I will probably think of more in the meantime.
00:34:10
Speaker
Awesome. Yeah, I think for me, as I was thinking back to, you know, the first time I watched through Lost, this episode definitely had me, it had me locked in the whole time. and And like you said, there's just so many, so many great questions that get raised in this episode. Also sort of like, you know, nuggets of of truth or partial answers to different things with the, are still opening us up to other mysteries.
00:34:38
Speaker
Yeah, as I watch it back now, it's not one of my favorite episodes. But I do remember the first time I watched it just having that feeling of wow, this is this is really good stuff. Yeah. All
Nick's Favorite and Least Favorite Characters
00:34:50
Speaker
right, cool. So let's transition to our most loved most hated segment. This is the segment of our show where we talk about which characters are trending up or trending down who we love and who are we hating on. So I think you've already told us your loves. But if you want to just give a quick recap,
00:35:05
Speaker
um My loves, for i have I've been thinking about this the whole episode, or this whole ah time. Top three we got in this order, Hurley John Locke Said. That's my top three. and Honorable mention, Charlie. Charlie, yeah, that's what I figured. Bottom three, from the worst to the least worst. I don't remember his name, but the guy that kept talking about the rashes on his back,
00:35:31
Speaker
Yeah, I don't remember his name either, but super annoying. Least le face, so annoying. Are you guys playing golf? ah Can I play? Shut up. You weren't invited. um Then I'm gonna go... I'm tempted to go, Danielle.
00:35:51
Speaker
i don't I don't know why I didn't really love her character. Nothing against like the the writing of the character or anything. I just didn't really mess with her. I thought she was weird, which makes sense. like it's ah like It's well done, but I just didn't really like it. And the same thing with like Sawyer, was like ah like in the first few episodes, was done amazingly. like like His whole character was done amazingly. I just didn't like it. He's designed to not be like... and she's designed to be really weird. um Yeah, i remember i think I remember you having a strong reaction to her weirdness also as she was like petting his face or something. Yeah, it was really weird. It was really, really weird. She's a really weird person. um So I think I'm gonna put her in my second least, or my second most hated, and then in my third most hated,
00:36:38
Speaker
um We all know who it is, let's be honest. yeah you know who's in my we We all know how much I hate Walt. Yeah, we don't even have to say his name. We don't even have to say his name. Just, can I play? Yeah, I'm sure no one will mind Walt. I mind Walt. It's not your turn. Wait your turn. Oh, man. So annoying. The clubs are too big for you anyway.
00:37:03
Speaker
Ugh, I don't know why I hate him so much. And I know you're not a big fan of Michael, but I actually really like Michael and I don't like Walt. I don't know why. Look, well Walt is annoying. I give you that fully. Yes, very annoying. I think that over time, Walt will at least bring your hatred down slightly.
00:37:27
Speaker
Probably. I think he's also obsessed with John Locke, and I don't like that. He is. I'm i'm obsessed with John Locke, but like he's like, how about you ask Mr. Locke? I don't know why I made him British. He's not British in the show, but he's like, oh, let's talk to him. Now I'm like, some different accent. but Let's talk to Mr. Locke, or whatever. And he's always calling him Mr. Locke. I like John Locke better. Anyway, that's my most loved most hated.
00:37:56
Speaker
All right. Sounds good. The one last comment that I'll make on that whole conversation is, you know, in this episode, we didn't talk about it specifically, but, you know, that whole golf scene, Michael basically was once again, kind of being that dad that wasn't that great though. Right. Cause yeah, he's like, yeah, yes. Sorry. I know I told you I'd do this, but now I'm playing golf, you know, and yeah. And that's what there's always two angles to everything. Right. Cause that's why Walt then runs off to lock and he's like, can I practice throwing the dagger?
00:38:26
Speaker
Right. So anyway, it's sort of like a father figure. Yeah, for sure. Yes. Yeah, I think, um, aside from the Walt hate, i'm I'm pretty close on on everything. I don't really have much that's differing from you on most love most hated this week. So I will i would skip myself there. We'll just go right into the, yeah, we'll go right into the theories
Speculations and Theories about 'The Others'
00:38:48
Speaker
and predictions. I know that we've kind of sprinkled those throughout the episode at this time, but anything else you wanted to touch on there?
00:38:55
Speaker
Okay. I'm going to recap a little bit. I do think there is a third group of people called the others. I think that is definitely a third group. Okay. I'm trying to think. So they've been there for 16 years. My guess is that the others have been there for longer. Okay. yeah Um,
00:39:13
Speaker
Then 16 years. And what are the others? What do they do? I'm assuming the others is another group of people. Like it's another group of people that were there before the Tahiti people were there. Do you think they're from the island originally? No. Are they also crashed on the island? I think the only thing from the island is the monster. Oh, cool. Because I don't even know if it's a monster. Yeah, yeah.
00:39:38
Speaker
A theory that I did have while watching was that possibly John Locke had met up with Danielle, but seeing the way that Danielle reacted to seeing Said, that was definitely the first person that she has seen in a long time. So that makes sense. I also thought it was weird about the the guns.
00:40:04
Speaker
Like where would where would she have gotten the guns from? um I feel like you wouldn't need those in a submarine sort of mission. Like i I feel like they had to come from somewhere else. So you think they were with the others and she stole them or something? Yeah, that's that's my guess. if i had like if i had to if i Or maybe she made them, I don't know. um That's kind of crazy if you made a gun.
00:40:29
Speaker
I would guess that she stole it from the others or they somehow got another, like a shipment or I have no idea. ah I also think, I was also thinking it could have been a possibility that Danielle knocked Said out, but I can't really imagine that because she would have just kidnapped him like she did this time. So that brings me to what my actual theory is. And that's that Alice knocked out Said.
00:41:01
Speaker
Very interesting. That's my thought. I originally thought it was John Locke and I still think it could be. I still think it could be. But I think it could be Sawyer because John Locke didn't bring up a point. It could be Sawyer. It could be John Locke because he did divert it on to Sawyer. It could be Alex. Could be. That's my main theory.
00:41:25
Speaker
My other question or prediction, and now this is kind of like questions, how is Said gonna tell the other people? you know How is he gonna tell them, oh, I got this map. Oh, I met the French lady. you know I don't think he's gonna say any of that. I think he's gonna be very reserved. Very secretive about where he's been. I think he'll he'll probably and think you'll probably tell Kate, because I think he trusts Kate. Yeah, I think so. And maybe Jack,
00:41:55
Speaker
maybe John Locke. But outside of that, I think that's all I got. Well, that's pretty good. I like it. It's good stuff. Yeah.
Preview of 'Raised by Another'
00:42:06
Speaker
Thank you so much for tuning into the Lost with My Uncle podcast. Join us next time where we'll be discussing episode 10, which is called Raised by Another. And this one is a Claire centric episode.
00:42:20
Speaker
oo I'm interested in that. Yeah, I know you've been waiting on one of those. I have been i've been. I've been wanting more Claire. For sure. It'll be a good one. So be sure to watch listeners and join us for the discussion. And don't forget to subscribe and leave a review. And we'll see you next time. Bye, everybody. Can't wait. Woo!