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Trailer Reactions, Song Choices in Trailers, Resident Evil, and More!
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Today on These Guys Got Juice, the guys are bringing you another trailer reaction BONUS EPISODE! Everyone loves them, and these two guys love doing them! Plus, it gives them the chance to go on tangents and ramble like old men.
Trailer Reactions:
From the World of John Wick: Ballerina
Disney's Snow White
Transformers: The Last Night
Terminator Genisys
Resident Evil: Welcome to Raccoon City
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Transcript
Introduction of Hosts and Setup
00:00:18
Speaker
I'm Doug Davenport. I'm Nick Ewers. And we're These Guys Got Juice. Did we do that for the last trailer reaction? We did, yeah. I wasn't even expecting it. I was just giving you a look. I was just like, well, I was just trying to remember. I was like, who's going to crack first? It was like a Mexican standoff. Racist. One of us is like partially Mexican in the room.
00:00:45
Speaker
one of us. Guess which one? Yeah. Right. Right. Which one do you think? Yeah. Well, we're bad. You know, we just gave you some trailer reactions and you're like, wow, you guys are back with more.
Trailer Reaction Process and Audience Interaction
00:00:58
Speaker
Yeah, we are because that's how fucking generous we are. I took to the polls and you voted.
00:01:04
Speaker
We're we're just giving the people what they want. No, but I wanted to do like a special themed kind of trailer because I had the idea. I mean, we've we've so far it's been trailers for new or upcoming movies and we are going to watch one for an upcoming movie. But I thought of like wouldn't it be fun to do just some some kind of uniform
00:01:27
Speaker
theme with these and I'd already mentioned during that that Thunderbolts trailer of like it was like man we've really gone too far with like these either slowed down or dramatic covers of a song or like either just like trying to do a mix match like energy so like something like really poppy the going with a like more serious thing you're like I feel like there's
00:01:54
Speaker
less and less examples of it actually working and and so Well, let's just watch the ballerina because like I think I think this is like It's gone too far. Well, so we talked about also let's watch this one too because I had brought up doing a Snow White trailer reaction because I haven't seen that and
00:02:19
Speaker
I'm gonna bet money that that movie begins with a slowed down version of High Ho. High Ho. Oh my god, maybe. I've never seen that trailer, though. Okay, let's- What are the chances- Probably- That that's turned into a slow pop song? Maybe fucking shit. Oh, damn it. Yeah, we'll- Have you seen that trailer? I saw- I scrolled past people that shared it and were reacting to like how-
00:02:46
Speaker
fucking crazy the dwarves look in it, but like I didn't actually like watch the trailer.
Thematic Trailer Trends and Critiques
00:02:52
Speaker
So there very well could be, I mean, yeah, we'll see. There's probably some bullshit in there. We'll have to investigate. Well, that's what we do. We get to the bottom of stuff for you guys and you're welcome, you know? Like we provide a public service here. Yeah, a public service that we pay for.
00:03:15
Speaker
And again, you're welcome. Yeah. Yeah. We're doing it for you guys. Okay. So this is your first time seeing ballerina trailer. Let's, let's just, let's just get into it. Is it coming up? Okay. Oh, ballerina. Oh my God. The movie's about
00:03:36
Speaker
What is this? Oh, him? Why is he here? None of us watch that Continental John Wick Peacock show, right? So he hires all the best assassins? He knows everyone! It's not like every assassin works for him, right? It makes the world! He does manage a Continental, but does he have a personal relationship with all of them?
00:03:59
Speaker
It's the thing that like a lot of spin-offs or like prequels get wrong is that it makes the world feel smaller. It was like he really knows all of them. He was like involved in like all of their like upbringings in some capacity. Like it seems like he brought her to the ballerina school. Like that he was the one who took her there and it's like why?
00:04:23
Speaker
Yeah. Why does he need to interact with her? Why does he need to be a- It seems like he's a pretty big character. Can you hear the help of John?
00:04:35
Speaker
Oh, that's a- Oh, what the- Darryl Dixon is in this? That's a bad use of the song. It doesn't fit over the dun dun dun dun. Yeah, it's like intense escalating action. And then you hear Elton jump. And it's about the real must've seen. What are the over-under- Call me closer, time to dance. Did they play that part? I think they do by the end. They should just- Oh, I think it's playing right now. Oh, that grenade thing.
00:05:04
Speaker
has been done, Captain America did it. Right. But it wasn't too bad. I feel like a Captain America had a flamethrower guy,
Character and Franchise Critiques
00:05:10
Speaker
too. Doesn't he fight a flamethrower guy in that first Avenger? She's using a hose to fight a flamethrower. She's gonna love them hoes.
00:05:22
Speaker
Oh, who could this possibly be coming off this train all dramatic? Like, they're really emphasizing like, no, don't worry, Keanu's here. He is in this? Yeah. And they're showing it in the trailer. Because they really- That's a bad move. They're just desperate. They want you to, they're like, don't worry, guys. Geez, always be my maybe didn't even like have Keanu that front and center. And he's playing himself in the movie.
00:05:51
Speaker
He's actually playing, he's not John Wick in this, he's just playing, uh... Wow, that's such a lame thing to drop. So, I don't know, it doesn't look terrible, it doesn't like, excite me that much, but seeing...
00:06:08
Speaker
The other two actors, one who has passed away already, two... Lance Reddick, R.I.P. Yeah, I didn't know he filmed scenes, um, for this movie. I guess, cause like, by the time Four was out, he was already dead. Yeah, it seems like maybe it's a deep fake or something. I thought, I think I did read they had filmed some stuff with him before he died, so... Okay.
00:06:31
Speaker
So I don't know seeing those like two characters on screen from the continental I didn't love at first it kind of took me out of Everything happening in the trailer because all of a sudden I'm just focused on these two fucking care It's almost like the screen lit up behind them whenever they were on screen in the trailer That's how distracting they were
00:06:54
Speaker
But then to seal the deal with Keanu being back, I'm like, so we're just doing this again. Like, we can't have any finality to these characters. Right. Like, yeah, it might not. Like, it's a prequel, but it's like... It's between three and four or some shit. We saw him go, like, can we respect that he's got... And it was actually a really good ending. Like, I thought it was like a really fitting... Yeah, do we need to see him on screen two years later or a year later?
00:07:24
Speaker
It's like, do people really, can they not go a year or two without fucking John Wick on their screens? I'm not really invested in Wick as a franchise beyond Keanu, especially beyond Keanu and Chad Selensky.
00:07:42
Speaker
This doesn't do anything for me seeing him in that trailer, because to me, it screams of like a lack of confidence. Like if they really must like build this out past his involvement, they should be moving away from like all those other characters we know and doing like something completely new and try and like make that fit into this. Like expand the world of John Wick. Don't just like shove someone in there and be like, no, they were there just like you didn't see them. They were off screen.
00:08:11
Speaker
What we've watched, it's been, as far as I know, John Wick, we've been following his perspective, all four movies. There hasn't really been a lot that we've missed that's happened in his life over the course of those four movies. Yeah, there's not like huge time jumps. This would have to be a prequel, I'm assuming. And part of what's awesome about John Wick is not seeing any of the prequel shit that you would see. Like the mystique of him is ruined. Is this a prequel?
00:08:40
Speaker
No, it's- Or is it taking place like in between like- I think it's between three and four or something. Three and four, which is weird because three has the ending of like where he kind of like, he's not intentionally faking his death, but like he gets shot off of a roof and then basically goes into hiding until four when he reemerges like go after the high table. Yeah. So it's like, so he came out of hiding.
00:09:06
Speaker
to see Anna de Armas and then went back into hiding with Lawrence Fishbourne before four started? Is that what we're going with? I don't like that. I don't know. And if other people disagree with me, just take a hard look at your life. If you can't have, if you can't go fucking a year or two without having John Wick on your screen. Yeah, just grow up. Listen to our, yeah, the way we berated the listeners on our Stranger Darling episode.
00:09:33
Speaker
So immediately the appeal of this franchise, besides the really cool action, is that John Wick as a character and how Keanu embodies him and that performance is like it's not just the stunt work. He has this energy, especially as the movies go on, because they take place in, you know, there's not a lot of time jumps. So it's like it's in a.
00:09:57
Speaker
really short amount of time that all this stuff is happening that he has to go through that he just seems so tired and over like the elaborate rules of this like world of assassins like it makes the silliness of the world like better in a way of that that he like doesn't give a shit about like all their like proceed like he has to like
00:10:17
Speaker
like cheat the rules I bet I guess to like get the results he wants but he like doesn't he doesn't care about all that like he like especially by four he just seems so exhausted where he's just like I gotta like go up to this to be at this church at this time and like it especially when he gets kicked down those stairs like you just feel the exhaustion where he's just like man I was just like almost there like yeah
00:10:39
Speaker
He's just like all worn out by it. Like, I like that. Like, Ana de Armas doesn't like this is just one trailer, but you kind of need someone to have that that Han Solo esque energy of like, this is all kind of dumb, right?
Trailer Reviews: 'Snow White' and 'Transformers'
00:10:55
Speaker
Like, because the world has gotten so silly. Yeah, or like someone that's like over it, basically. Yeah. Han Solo or like Bill Marine Ghostbusters were like, this is a little silly. This is pretty silly that this is what we're doing here. Yeah, I just, I don't know. I don't love this thing, but we're probably going to review it. So we'll really...
00:11:16
Speaker
We'll really get to dive into it. Hey, maybe Len Wiseman will make his first good movie. Come at me, underworld fans or fans of the total recall remake. I think that movie does have shooters. I think there's people. I mean, I'm not a fan of the underworld movies in any way, shape or form.
00:11:35
Speaker
I like the concept of vampires versus werewolves and they're having like Matrix gun battles. Like that sounds cool on paper, but actual the act. I've only seen like the first couple, but they're not that good. No, no. I have a friend who loves the underworld movies and I've watched a few with him and I just don't like them at all. I've never had the heart to tell him that I don't like them at all.
00:12:03
Speaker
I don't think he'll ever listen to this though. I don't think he'll listen to this. Okay. So before we get to the, those other trailers with like the mixed, uh, mismatched music or the, the dramatic covers, let's, let's put on this Snow White and see if your theory is correct. So this is the, the new Snow White.
00:12:29
Speaker
We're listening. This looks terrible. All of these live action remakes look like dog shit, right? No one's walking away from the new Little Mermaid or fucking Lion King and being like, wow, this looks amazing. No, they were walking away from the Little Mermaid being like, not my mermaid.
00:12:52
Speaker
Here's the thing I know about the little mermaid. She's white. Mm-hmm. White woman. No legs. Mermaids are white. I like her. Wait, what song is playing? I think it's one of the songs from Snow White. Oh, it's just a completely different thing. Yeah, so. It kinda is doing a dramatic version of it. Turn it down just a tad. Um, who do you like?
00:13:14
Speaker
the main girl playing, uh, Snow White. I'm blanking on her name, but she was in, uh, the West side story. I think she's, she has a great voice. Her name's here with an R. Rachel something. Rachel Dawes. Rachel. Where's Rachel?
00:13:37
Speaker
Snow White, uh, that didn't really show much. I don't know, this looks like a fucking nothing sandwich. Nothing burger. Nothing burger. That's a good way to put a lot of Disney stuff. Rachel Zegler.
00:13:55
Speaker
Yeah, I like, I like her. Oh, Rachel Zellger. I think, but everything she's done post West Side Story has kind of not been for me. I heard the Hunger Games prequel was I ate. I got to get around to that. It's pretty good. I don't really remember it that much, but I didn't hate it. So she has that.
00:14:17
Speaker
And she was in Shazam 2. Those are the movie. And now this, these are her posts like being in a Spielberg movie because like West Side Story legit was her like, you know, that's her first credit.
00:14:34
Speaker
The thing I am excited for her in is Y2K, Kyle Mooney's horror comedy coming out. Kyle Mooney shot out. He didn't direct Briggs B. Bear. He just starred in it and wrote it, right? He came up with the idea for it, but he didn't actually... Briggs B. Bear had a different director, I think. I think so.
00:14:56
Speaker
But this is like I think he's like his actual directorial debut. So what's the next trailer? OK, so we're going to this this theme of like these these. These weird song choices, let's let's go to this is one of the earlier offenders of this that I can remember, and I have never even seen the movie that this this goes to.
00:15:27
Speaker
What's the name of the movie? Transformers The Last Knight. Oh, this is the final one. I've seen this horseshit.
00:15:35
Speaker
I didn't even want to see it. My older brother was like, hey, do you want to see this Transformers movie? I was like, no, I don't. And then like a couple days later, he's like, great news. I bought us special seats for this movie, and it comes with a Transformers shirt. And the whole time, I forgot what, there was something else in theaters at the same time, and I was just watching this like, fuck, I wish I was just seeing this other movie. This movie sucks. This movie sucks so hard, man.
00:16:04
Speaker
Tapped out of the Bay Transformers with two. Two was like really, really awful. This is supposed to be Chicago. They like say it in the movie and it was filmed in Detroit and it doesn't even look like Chicago. The third one they actually did film here, right? Dark of the Moon. The fourth one, the fourth one they filmed in Chicago.
00:16:25
Speaker
I know one of them, they actually did film here. The fourth one, it's one of the ones they did with Wahlberg because I was going to school in Chicago at the time and they had the street that my college was on that whole block was shut down for catering.
00:16:43
Speaker
So I had to go around and take a completely weird way to go around to a different end of the building and then take a weird elevator every day for a week just because they had that street shutdown for catering for Transformers 4. Not even anything crazy. Like the filming of it, but the catering. Just catering, yeah.
00:17:03
Speaker
It was over by the Daily Center. So is this about the time when Mark Wahlberg stopped doing any like real acting? He just started doing interviews where he was like speculating how he would have prevented 9-11.
00:17:17
Speaker
There's a movie coming out where he like has to take control of a plane that's about to go down or something. It almost sounds like that he like wants to live out the fantasy of like, it's not 9-11. I mean, he probably should make a 9-11 movie where he stops it. That would be funny.
00:17:38
Speaker
I forgot that this movie pulls a fate of the furious where it's like, wait, why is Optimus bad? No, this movie sucks ass, dude. Why is Optimus bad in it? He's like floating through space and like I think a unicorn or somebody like reprograms him and then he floats back to Earth.
00:17:57
Speaker
Those are lyrics in the Flaming Lips song that they use. Like, that's what I'm saying is that they literally just like, oh, that's in our movie. We're going to use that song. Like, it's like Elton John says ballerina would have seen like, well, our movie's ballerina. That's the name of our movie.
00:18:16
Speaker
Yeah, that there's something else about that movie that really sucks it. I mean the end sets up for moves like Yeah, set up this like huge unicorn confrontation that like never yeah I think like it's revealed that earth is unicorn or unicorn is coming to earth or something I don't know I'm so dumb that it kind of sounds funny
00:18:40
Speaker
I mean like it's like a woman walking around in a desert or something. I don't remember it God These movies are so forgettable Yeah, there was something else. I was gonna say about Transformers the last night or whatever. It's called night night Transformers Betty by a Transformers. That's the one that Anthony Hopkins is in
00:19:04
Speaker
I've seen a clip of him getting blown up and dying in a Transformers movie and I think it's one of the Wahlberg ones. Maybe. I've seen the fourth Transformers like three times as well. Because you loved it so much? Yes, that's exactly why. No, I saw it in theaters and then
00:19:24
Speaker
I was in the hospital and it played on FX twice. And that was like the best option I had. You always do. It was bad for hospital watching. You typically don't get a ton of options in the hospital. I was lucky when I had a colonoscopy recently and I was like waiting before the procedure. Like the TV actually had like Turner classic movies that the movies available during the day was like the shitty Elvis movies, like the movies he acted in. Damn.
00:19:54
Speaker
That sounds like a nightmare. It was like I was like happy that it was like Oh turn classic movies and they're like and here's Viva Las Vegas Yeah, one of the times I was stuck watching one of the Divergent movies. I was like so close to saying detergent movies. They should call them detergent movies They probably could have gotten the last sequel made if they had some detergent money. I got tied sponsorship
00:20:20
Speaker
A couple years ago I was in the hospital multiple times within like a year and one of the stays I watched Daddy's Home on TV for the first time I caught like half of it and then I watched it came back around on FX and I watched the whole thing and I really enjoyed that that was good hospital watching that's the same- Did you see Daddy's Home too?
00:20:46
Speaker
I did. I like bought the two-pack after that. So you sign off on that franchise on the day of this home? I do. Yeah, the first one's a lot better than the second one, I think. Is that the last Wahlberg thing you saw that you liked? I think so, yeah. And then what's it called? That same hospital stay, I want to say is when I saw
00:21:07
Speaker
Transformers, the fourth one, a bunch. It played twice. I feel like FX replays the same stuff a lot, especially when they first get a movie. It'll play a couple times within one day. It'll usually play one movie, a different movie. And then back again, you guys loved it so much, here's the encore.
00:21:28
Speaker
Then the next day, it was Batman vs Superman, which was a pretty big win. I watched that twice in the same day, and then, uh, this really shitty Johnny Depp movie called, like, The Tourist.
00:21:42
Speaker
I don't know if I know that one. Yeah. I want to say there was like, oh, also the same night as Transformers in Daddy's Home. That's when the Josh Trank Fantastic Four movie played. And I watched that for the first time. I've never seen it. Yeah. Is it as bad as they say?
00:22:02
Speaker
It was good hospital viewing it wasn't like you know it didn't put me in any more pain right, but it was very forgettable and Yeah, just not memorable at all. I it. I don't remember it having a high point ever It was just a plateau the whole fucking time well hopefully the next
00:22:22
Speaker
Hopefully they finally make a good Fantastic Four movie. It's all on you, Matt Shankman, Jackman, whatever the guy who did WandaVision is that's directing it. Hopefully you can pull it off. There's not really any Marvel thing that I'm hyping myself up for. I'm like, I'm legit excited for this.
Excitement for 'Fantastic Four'
00:22:42
Speaker
But it did feel kind of encouraging when I saw some set
00:22:47
Speaker
photos of like, oh, they're doing a practical like thing costume. I'm sure they're going to augment it with effects. But I was like, oh, they like put they cast an actor to play the thing and they put him in a costume to make him look like a rock man, because I assumed it was just going to be completely like CG. But I was like, oh.
00:23:08
Speaker
They're doing a- they're doing a thing costume. What if, uh, they're just faking us out and it is completely CG, but what we saw on set was a character, like, just an extra in the movie dressing up for The Thing is Halloween? I- I- That would be... Oh, you- I- Marvel! I'm shaking my fist!
00:23:32
Speaker
So what's the next trailer? Okay. The next one, if this is the one that I'm thinking of, it's a great long running franchise and this is everyone's favorite installment of it. This is Terminator Genesis. Everyone's favorite Terminator movie.
00:23:50
Speaker
I've never seen this trailer, but I saw this movie at the beginning of the year. I did a Terminator watch. I saw it for the first time. This movie sucks. I think it was the first time I had seen it when I was marathoning all of them. And I think it's easily the worst one, right? Like it's the worst Terminator movie. It's one of the worst movies I've seen solely based on like how much money was probably put into it with the just level of horse shit that ended up coming out. And
00:24:18
Speaker
and the level of, I don't even know if I could say talent because these- Jai Courtney? A lot of these people haven't done much for me outside of the movie. Oh yeah, this is the right version. You can kind of lightly hear the, I'd like to change the world, but I don't. They're like, hey, this is a movie about someone going back in time and changing the world. This song's about us.
00:24:43
Speaker
This looks like it would be good for like a fan-made YouTube terminator thing. Oh, a hundred percent. If this was on fan budget, you're like, wow, this is really impressive what they accomplished. Yeah. Everyone's missed in this movie. It's kinda like Star Wars, like YouTube things. It's like, oh, this is good for like YouTube.
00:25:01
Speaker
Everyone is miscast. I'm not gonna start beef with the even Arnold is miscast Yeah, he doesn't look like he should be in this movie It looks less less so then why did they show a shot of him from the first terminator? Well, cuz there's a younger one that he in case you forgot
00:25:19
Speaker
No, there's a younger one that he kills because they're like rewriting the timeline. So he like an older him, the current age. They just showed footage from the first Terminator instead of just using. No, I think the movie uses that footage. It uses they're doing like a bad version of the Back to the Future 2 thing where they're like, oh, they're going to like go through the previous movies. I do. I remember that. But but it's like a really dumb version of that.
00:25:48
Speaker
Yeah. No, it's what Resident Evil does that too, and it's the worst of the Resident Evil movies. God, Arnold looks so bad in this movie. He looks worse than in Dark Fate where he's older. I think he's legit good in Dark Fate. Well, his haircut is really stupid in this movie. God, that movie sucks.
00:26:08
Speaker
That movie sucks hard, dude. That movie sucks balls. I know I've never said that on mic, but it deserves that. It deserves that level of juvenile criticism. It's not good. It's not good at all.
00:26:25
Speaker
Yeah, I it's a bad movie. I because there's things that it's of pre all over the place franchise, but I can still find as a kid, I definitely like three a lot more rewatching. And I was like, oh, this is a lot rougher. I still like the end of three. I still that that still hits for me. Yeah, there's in a very large of three that I like.
00:26:49
Speaker
In a vacuum, there's kind of some interesting stuff in Salvation. It's not like a good movie, but... Salvation was... Yeah, it's kind of like a nothing movie. Nothing really too memorable happens, but it wasn't a bad experience playing Pokemon while the movie was on in the background, you know?
00:27:14
Speaker
Yeah, it's a good it's definitely a good mood to play Pokemon too. And then Dark Fate circles back around to that. I just think that movie is good. And then there's like spin off. I mean, in terms of spin off shows, they're two for two because I love Sarah counter chronicles and Terminator Zero. Check out Nick's bonus Terminator Zero talk. I feel like this is multiple episodes I've brought up Terminator Zero. It's just a good show, man. Check it out.
00:27:40
Speaker
It really doesn't take, it just breezes. A lot of Netflix stuff can, I've kind of checked out of keeping up with all Netflix originals, but I feel like they did hit a point where I'm like, man, these seasons really drag. It feels like they've kind of just stretched out.
00:27:57
Speaker
thinner story. Terminator Zero, no. It just fucking moves and it's got some pretty... It's very easy to watch. Very easy to watch. It's got good compelling, intense action. Maybe this is sacrilege, but I think I sold you in a text. I was like, there's a Terminator
00:28:16
Speaker
like police station assault scene. I'm like, is this better than that? I'll be back stuff from the first movie. It's really tense. It is really tense. And there's a character you're, well, I don't want to spoil it.
00:28:28
Speaker
Yeah, no, you like, I was on edge through that whole episode and sequence. I mean, there's a lot of stuff that has, but then also it's like good sci-fi in terms of just like, there's like good philosophical like stuff that you like, that I like in my sci-fi, especially sci-fi that deals with like artificial intelligence or just like the idea of like,
00:28:50
Speaker
There's there's multiple franchises that are are that are like, can humanity coexist with another intelligent species, whether that's machine or AI or apes? Like, that's kind of like a lot of the play in the apes movies are like humans and apes. Can they make it work?
00:29:07
Speaker
Doesn't seem so like it's like, yeah, they just it's like just raising the question of like, is there even a way forward that this can we can coexist? And I think that's pretty compelling to me. Mm hmm. I agree. So I didn't have many other ones. I'll put on for me. This is like a batshit song choice to have for this movie. But maybe because now that I've seen the movie and like it, then like
00:29:33
Speaker
Well, actually, maybe this is like brilliant that they use this song. So if this is the right one, I'm thinking of. Is this our last one? Yes. OK. This is Welcome to Raccoon City, the most recent Resident Evil movie. Well, first, there's a QVC. We got to get by that. But I like Welcome to Raccoon City. I want to rewatch it.
00:30:04
Speaker
Here, can we turn this down a little bit? It seems like they each get louder as we go. Yeah. Wait, so this doesn't have a song? We're just checking out the trailer? No, if this is the right one, there's like partway through a song choice. It's like, what the fuck? Where did they come up with this shit? This isn't on Netflix?
00:30:27
Speaker
No, because there is a Netflix, uh, Resident Evil thing that came out around this time, but completely different continuity. Lance Reddick, who we just mentioned, plays Wesker in that one. Wesker. Another Desperate Housewives alumni is unless a lot of Desperate Housewives actors are showing up and, uh,
00:30:48
Speaker
the stuff we're watching. I think that's who I saw is the dude from Minority Report. Oh yeah, he's also in Justified. He's Robert Quarles in Season 3, shout out Justified. So did this come out yet? Oh yeah, this was like 2019. And you loved it?
00:31:08
Speaker
I quite enjoyed it. I need to go back and rewatch all of the because I only saw a couple of the Paul Thomas Anderson Resident Evil movies. Oh, so I don't know if you can hear the song that they're doing, but they're doing this is like probably one of the first memes when
Positive Review of 'Welcome to Raccoon City'
00:31:27
Speaker
they had that it was like He-Man singing along to.
00:31:32
Speaker
Yeah, I said, hey, what's going on? Oh, it's the what's up by four non blondes or something. But that just kicks it. They're like showing like like this weird zombie imagery and then it just started doing this like really peppy like.
00:31:50
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What's going on? I like that song a lot. I like that song and I'm kind of like down. People made fun of this trailer for doing. They're like, what the fuck are they doing with this movie? But now having seen the movie, I'm like, actually, that's pretty good.
00:32:06
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Does it have a sense of humor about itself? A little bit, yeah. It does. It's pretty true to what people like about Resident Evil. Because the games are goofy as fuck. I don't know if we said on mic that we're going to start doing bonus games. I mean, we'll have a whole thing to announce our bonus rollout for that kind of stuff.
00:32:28
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I think of the games that I want to play or go through, the Resident Evil ones would make pretty, pretty good ones. Like probably any horror game would be pretty, pretty, would make good content of us playing along, but especially Resident Evil. And then there's like actual co-op ones that we can play together. I remember five in college, like I. Yeah, that's why I've five is one of the only ones I played because it was co-op and a friend was a really good co-op experience hard.
00:32:56
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I only played the very beginning and I just remember me and my friend couldn't like make it through at all. There's a lot of hard parts. The games aren't easy and I made the mistake of when I was playing. They've remade like the first three or I guess the first four of the main games at this point.
00:33:15
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uh remade and i was playing like the remake of two and i i don't know why i felt so cocky that i could handle hard i was like i've played resident evil before i'm just gonna do it on hard mode and then like almost immediately started regretting it because like yeah they give you a lot less resources you have less ammo and it just seems like it's easier to waste ammo like you think you have a headshot lined up and right before you shoot the zombies are almost like doing matrix
00:33:44
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It almost felt intentional, like, yo, wait, you fucker, you waited until I fired my gun, and you just moved out of the way, and now I'm down a bullet when you only have like five bullets, and now I'm like, fuck!
00:33:56
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Yeah, that's what the terrorist in Rainbow Six Vegas, those two games were notorious for is the moment like you're about to shoot, they would just move and then you're just like dead. And it was specifically on the higher difficulties, right? When you're doing like terrorist hunt and they like, they basically just get like super senses, like they know where you are exactly where you are. But then when you shoot them, they're just like fucking like an agent in the matrix, just dodging bullets. Yeah.
00:34:25
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Uh... You know, that would be an interesting movie, a Splinter Cell, not Splinter Cell, a Rainbow Six movie. Did you know that they were going to- I think they've long since abandoned this plan. You could just put your own story on to just, you know, just take one of, you know, the casino map and just make a story around a fucking something there. It doesn't even need to be like anything too sprawling.
00:34:50
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but they were trying to make it a fucking really awesome SWAT fucking movie there's something that's like contained but exciting like inside man's like it contained like you're pitching something smaller and intimate but what if what if there was a giant
00:35:07
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MCU sized Tom Clancy universe where all these things were connected because that's what Amazon wanted to do. There was a Michael B. Jordan movie in twenty twenty one. It was like a straight to streaming thing called Without Remorse. And there was like a fucking MCU credit scene where he's like meeting with some spy guy. He's like, I'm going to start a group called Rainbow.
00:35:30
Speaker
It was like, wait, what? And they never followed. It's like he's starting a band or something. That's what this thing, it's like it's supposed to be a serious spy conversation, dramatic meeting. The other spies should have like made fun of him. Like, what are you talking about?
00:35:49
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you call it rainbow that's goofy that's ridiculous i actually kind of like some things about the movie itself without remorse because it's like it's like i'm a sucker for like uh i've heard some people call this uh subcategory of recent action movies especially
00:36:06
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like in a post John Wick world where everyone has like these extreme tactical skills. And it's like one guy versus like a whole squad of people. I've heard people call it like operator porn, like because that's like the tier of like military expertise of like, you know, there's like operators and they're able to like, you know, they have all the special training. But it's like a set up of like, OK, what if it's one of those guys with training? But then he wants revenge because like his his wife gets killed and he doesn't know why. So but then he's like doing
00:36:35
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like fucking John Wick stuff to get to the bottom of it and then like there is some like legit like pretty fun action in it from what I remember and my only Jordan he's just a fucking star like uh he holds the screen really well like it i'm not saying that this is like the best movie or like the the greatest spy thing ever i just i just remember having fun with it until that post-credits scene where i was like well god damn it like this does not have to be the start listen do you guys
00:37:02
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didn't have to try and make this Iron Man of the Tom Clancy universe. And I don't think that's ever, they're never following up on that, I don't think. Let's hope they don't. I don't think the world needs a follow up.
Debate on 'Coda's' Best Picture Win
00:37:17
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What's with everybody? Everybody's always got a dead wife. That's always the motivation.
00:37:22
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Yeah, what are you, a Nolan movie? Yeah, I mean, John Wick had the dead wife, but that wasn't like his motivation. It was actually the dog, which I like how long that first one does build up to like the actual action. Like they're, they're playing it like very dramatically of like, yeah, post his wife being gone, he's retired, he has this dog. And like you, it makes you really feel when that's like taken away from him that you're like, fuck, he has to kill them all now.
00:37:52
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Like, it was just like a tragedy to it of like, ah, they fucking dragged him back into this. He was out. Just when I think I'm out, they pull me back in. They shot the dog. They shot the dog share. It's from No Country for Old Men. I don't know.
00:38:11
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No country for old wicks. Old dogs. Old dogs. No country for old dogs. Well, we talked about our no country for old men spin-off thing. Oh, yeah, we did. Yeah. Well, we got to pitch that someone. We're not giving that away for free. We're going to take that to Warner Brothers. We're going straight to the top. And they're going to love it. Yeah.
00:38:39
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Should we wrap up here? I think that's a good note to end on cuz like I I think of like we showed a lot of like like cringy annoying Examples of like using that kind of song Actually, hold on just that this movie does look pretty good though. We should find I think I'm actually gonna like genuinely check this one out
00:39:02
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If you want to like do some kind of bonus, like if you like it, watch it, you like it, like I would, I would rewatch it and talk about it because I, I'm blanking on this director. I mean, if you can watch all the resident evils, I'll watch this and do an overall resident evil talk, but make this one the main focus.
00:39:23
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Yeah, I should watch the other Paul Thomas Anderson, Resident Evil. Couldn't tell if you did that on purpose the first time or not. I did do one on purpose. He made them, right? That was like in between. That was just like one for them, one for me era. Right.
00:39:43
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You know, movies like inherent vice or the master aren't like breaking the box office. He didn't direct all of them either. We should step away for one or something. He didn't do like, I don't think he did two or three. Okay. There's a couple he didn't do. Um, three is the best. I think three and four, I want to say were my two favorites.
00:40:05
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I think people, the fans of these movies, I think four is the consensus one that they're like, that one fucks. Four was the one where I was like, this is surprisingly really fucking good. And then three. It's like the post apocalypse wasteland. Three is the Mad Max one. Three works the best, I think, on like a horror standpoint.
00:40:26
Speaker
Cause that's the thing of like, from what I saw, I only saw the first two. After one, it felt like that they were just completely pivoting to action in a Resident Evil world where I was like, this should be kind of scary, right? Yeah, three feels a little nasty. And then after three, it goes straight into sci-fi.
00:40:46
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Which is sci-fi action when then it's got for which again was the one that really surprised me with how good it is I would actually Go back. I would rewatch Resident Evil 3 and 4 I think pretty often one and two I've seen enough throughout like my whole life just as a kid I'd know them all enough to where I don't think I need to well I don't know them well enough, but I'm familiar enough with them and don't have much of a desire to rewatch them They're pretty
00:41:14
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Boring movies. How far do they go in that continuity in terms? Are there six? Six, yeah. Okay. That's not too bad. It's not bad. It's a franchise too. I mean last Halloween I've fucking binged all 10 saws. I think I'm gonna do six Resident Evils. It's a franchise you can again like
00:41:34
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Some of them you can sit and play Pokemon too, because Pokemon is not even a game that requires your full focus. There are battles where I'm fully watching the movie while I'm just coasting through Elite Four battles in Pokemon or something. Maybe not Elite Four, but gym battles.
00:41:53
Speaker
What's it called? I'll get the switch ready for some of them, then I can just like play while the movies. No, I've been wanting to go through that, the original ones, but then also revisit Welcome to Raccoon City and also just shout out Joe Highness Roberts, I believe I'm saying it's right. He's the director of that one, the latest one. I think he like does genre horror stuff like
00:42:19
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better than things would you would expect. Like when they announced that there was going to be a sequel to the first Strangers, it's like, really, we don't need to do a franchise. This is pretty, pretty conclusive ending there, right? Like we don't have to keep doing it with this kind of thing. But then Strangers Pray at Night like fully like makes it its own. And like it's a completely different vibe. It's kind of like the energy shift between like
00:42:45
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alien and aliens are like Terminator and T2 of like, oh, this is just like a different pace. It's doing its own thing in this world. I get, you know, it's like the same. We're about to play.
00:42:56
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What? No, I wasn't going to put the trailer on. I was just shouting out the director because he also did Welcome to Raccoon City. Like I think I think he's from what I've seen kind of underrated in terms of like these horror movies that are kind of like like the Resident Evil reboot. Like this is what is this going to be? And then it was like actually good, you know, like that he
00:43:20
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He delivers. I think he has some juice. I need to explore his other stuff. I think he's done segments in one of the VHS movies. Is that the most recent VHS? 99? That's the franchise I'm not super. I've seen it one VHS movie. I'm not a fan. I've tried. Whatever the most recent VHS was that came up, it might not be the most recent. It's like set in the 90s? Came on like 2021. I think I wasn't a big fan.
00:43:49
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their horror anthologies are tricky because like I don't love it um that much yeah it's a thing that sounds interesting to me on paper because like when found footage is good it's like really hits for me and is super effective and then i also like horror anthologies so it's like oh this is a horror anthology and a found footage thing together and yeah it just sounds like the it
00:44:15
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the qualities. I've heard people shout out specific segments in one of the sequels that I haven't seen, but it's like, well, I kind of would like to have the experience of enjoying the full watch of the movie. Like the way of my impression of the frame is like it was like, oh, so should I just find the good segments and just watch those in like not the whole movie? Because it doesn't like I feel like I don't hear anyone like
00:44:42
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any shooters for any full VHS of like this one beginning to end slaps. Yeah, I didn't love the VHS that I saw and then some of the segments I feel like are just like punishing to the viewer, which I think is intentional like the people watching the VHS I think are supposed to be watching like the most horrific thing.
00:45:02
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But yeah, sometimes it just felt unnecessarily punishing and it's just not a form of horror that I really appreciate. I would almost like prefer if we're doing like a short form storytelling, like almost something like a Twilight Zone-esque like horror or like, yeah, situational horror or I forgot the director's name, but he's the guy who did Shazam. If you go to his YouTube page, he has a lot of really good horror shorts.
00:45:31
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lights out because lights out was originally a short that they then like made a full thing. Yeah. Shout out to that guy. I can't remember his name, but he's got a lot of really interesting horror shorts and they're like one, two, maybe three minutes long max, but they're really good.
00:45:47
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Does he have anything coming out or does Shazam 2 totally like ends? I think he has something coming out. I could be wrong. I might be thinking of Scott Derrickson, but I think he has something coming out. If he's going back to horror, that would be cool. Oh yeah, he's got a few things. Oh fuck. Is he- Pony Smasher is his name on Instagram, I think. I don't remember his YouTube name. It might be under his actual name.
00:46:09
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He's doing an adaptation of there's a PlayStation horror game that's kind of like a choose your own adventure movie game. Like I feel like PS3 started having like a lot of these games was like, oh, it is a movie, but then your choices can affect like who lives or dies and who gets to them. So they did like a horror movie one about these friends trapped in like a ski lodge called Until Dawn. And he's doing the game adaptation of an Until Dawn. I don't.
00:46:39
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They might be bringing some of the cast from the game because they actually had Rami Malek before before his incredible turn is Freddie Mercury Yeah, I don't know if you can hear the sarcasm in my voice, but fuck bohemian raps. Yeah, that movie sucks
00:46:54
Speaker
I like Rami Malek and like Mr. Robot and other things, but like it's insane to me how awarded that movie was when it's like, this is like bad. This is like actively bad. It's almost like a joke, like awarding it, like awarding it itself was like a joke that was played on all of us. Right.
00:47:15
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It's like he that coda winning best picture. There's a few times where it's like There's a joke that's happening here that I'm not in on like the coda thing like giving up a not good movie Some would say a bad movie best picture almost just a slap Netflix in the face. I I don't
00:47:37
Speaker
Like, I don't like Coda as a Best Picture winner, but if I've watched it in another context as just a movie that was on streaming, like it's not, I don't hate it. It was like an ABC family, like movie that somehow won Best Picture. It's ridiculous.
00:47:53
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100%, that's exactly what it is. But if it was just like an innocent regular streaming watch, I'd be like, this is like a perfectly pleasant thing that I could watch with my parents. And admittedly, I did get a little emotional during the final song when she's singing both sides now to her parents and like signing.
00:48:10
Speaker
I don't know what it was about the movie. I don't even think I was in a bad mood, but Coda was one of those things where I watched it and I was like, fuck, I don't like this movie. Yeah, so long ago, I can't really pinpoint like what exactly it was. Then the film cast reviewed it and they had a guest on it who was like, tore it apart in a really intellectual way. And I was like, I feel vindicated.
00:48:35
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And then I won Best Picture and I'm like, I don't feel vindicated. What world am I living in? Yeah, I definitely don't. I don't even remember what the other films were. And like probably literally any other one of those would be a better Best Picture winner. I would have been a movie from 2021. So there wasn't a whole lot of options then.
00:49:00
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It was, it was one of those like, we're coming out of COVID years. So yeah, it was like a streaming movie winning. It's rough out there, man. Yeah. Okay. So it was sound of metal, make Minari promising young. Oh no. I typed in the wrong year. I typed in 2021, 2022.
00:49:27
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Nightmare Alley, Don't Look Up, Dune Part 1, Drive My Car, Belfast, Licorice Pizza, Power of the Dog, West Side Story, King Richard, Coda.
00:49:37
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Those are all better. I mean, yeah, I would have done licorice pizza personally. I think that's the best out of those movies I listed, at least for me. There we go. Licorice pizza, drive my car, and then King Richard. I haven't seen Belfast. I have not seen Belfast, but I kind of assume it's better than Coda. I think probably pretty safe assumption to
Impact of Apple's Investment in 'Coda'
00:50:01
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make.
00:50:01
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And everyone thought Power of the Dog was going to be like Jane Campion and Netflix. Well because she won director. And it seemed like the coda pic was just to like be like fuck you Netflix you are not getting what you want. It seems like they almost just set it up like we're going to do a notably just like worst movie.
00:50:23
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to make a point, to make an example out of you. And it's like, okay. But then Apple also like, it was the highest amount of money paid for like an acquisition or something. They paid a fuck ton for, Apple in general just like fucking turns on the money hose for a lot of these things, but like they paid a lot for CODA to get it. And then they also paid a lot like fucking pushing it for the Oscar campaign.
00:50:51
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and then just to really like I mean it got the best picture but they didn't really make any money off of it as far as I know it's not like it got physical releases or so I don't and as far as I don't know if it got them like a crazy amount of subscribers and it's not a movie people except for us right now really like talk about so it's like going to the grocery stores people are like oh my god remember coda
00:51:20
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It's not even, like, as controversial as, like, a Green Book win. So it's like... It's just kinda baffling. Cause, like, yeah, Green Book people is kinda infamous, I guess. It's like, what was it all for? Like, so much for this movie, and Coda's the movie.
00:51:38
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Yeah, that's a good point of, like, what was Apple's, like, net gain? I kind of don't, like, I understand- Apple, the Academy, everybody- Coda got so much from so many people, and for what? Is it gonna be a movie that's really gonna be remembered?
00:51:54
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I I'm probably only literally gonna remember when she sings both sides now, but that's like but that's No, sorry, no, I was just gonna say I have an emotional attachment to that specific song specifically I think it's just a beautiful song but then I've other Uses of it just have been printed like this emotional memory on me like one of the madmen season finales and just like one of my
00:52:20
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favorite scenes in television uses that song and I'm starting to get a little emotional thinking about the scene. I think that effect, I will remember that scene in the movie because it's using this song that I already have an attachment to, but the movie itself, I'm not going to be remembering years later.
00:52:43
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Here's just like four movies right off the bat that I know will be more memorable than Koda. Dune part one. Oh, yeah. King Richard. Sure. Especially because of the Will Smith of it all. Yeah, no one's ever gonna forget King Richard. West Side Story, the remake.
00:53:05
Speaker
Oh, that was the same year? Mm-hmm. That was nominated for Best Picture. Yeah. I kind of, I blanked. I've even brought that up earlier when we were talking Snow White, and I just did not hear you when you said that. Oh, yeah. And then, uh, Licorice Pizza. I think, like, those four off the bat are gonna be talked about and remembered more than Coda. And then, on to Drive My Car, I think.
00:53:31
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I don't know like the years and years from now, like when this director makes more and more movies, if Drive My Car is going to be the one that we point to as like, oh, this is like his movie, or because I mean, Evil does not exist, is like getting more attention. It's pretty buzzed, but Drive My Car was the first one of his that kind of broke through internationally. At least for me, I hadn't heard of that director until Drive My Car.
00:53:57
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don't look up had a short like life but it was really talked about way more than I think coda was outside of the money that was spent on coda I don't know and power the dog I think is gonna come and go Belfast I'm not too sure about a nightmare alley it doesn't seem like people are like
00:54:16
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too crazy about. But I like Nightmare Rally. I mean, I like the original better, but I've heard that from everybody that the original is just a better movie. This one has a better ending. And Bradley Cooper in that final scene, that's like my favorite acting that he's done in the way he sells. I haven't seen it. Don't spoil. The final line is just like, fuck. Don't spoil. No, I won't say spoilers. Now I know there's a final line.
00:54:45
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It's the ending. Now I know there's an ending. I thought it was going to pull a horizon and not end, but now I know it ends. The original movie wanted to have the ending that the Bradley Cooper version does. Well, now I know there were other intentions. That's a spoiler.
00:55:07
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Yeah, I guess I can't say anymore. No, I'm kidding. What were you saying? No, it's just that I can say more once you see it. But it's like, oh, fuck. Yeah, the original should have had this ending. This makes sense, as this is the natural conclusion to this story. I did start to watch it. And then the girl I was dating at the time called
Session Reflection and Conclusion
00:55:30
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me. I just remember I think Tony Collette gives Bradley Cooper a hand job while he's taking a bath. She certainly does. Yeah.
00:55:37
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What should we end it there? Yeah, I think that's a good part to leave it off on. All right. Some bathtub hand jobs. I mean, if only we could all be so lucky to get a bath job. A bath job. A bath job from Tony Collett. Most of the kids are calling it these days tonic flip bath job. How do they... Well, yeah, and they're in Australia, so the bath drains backwards there, I think, right? Hot snow falls up. Something like that. Yeah, how does she say she's like crying?
00:56:05
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I keep bath job. I don't know so I can't do it I can't even picture her actual accent because I've never she doesn't ever play Australian does she? I Feel like I've heard it before I've heard it in like interviews maybe but in a movie has she ever in a movie been Not she's like American usually I feel like I've heard it in a movie before Mafia mama I never saw my family. I think she's Italian in that
00:56:36
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She's a mafia mama. We'll investigate. We'll review that trailer next. This is, yeah, be sure to rate us. We're the number one mafia mama podcast in America. There's some in other countries that are a little bigger. Italy, you know, if they have a mafia mama podcast, it's pretty big. We're not going to beat them, but in America, we're number one. Always.
00:57:01
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So I never know how to start at these bonus ones, but yeah, I don't know. You guys know the drill. Fucking rate us five stars. Yeah, five stars. We'll read it on the air. Yeah. We'll be reviewing Craven the Hunter this year. Well, that one's not a bit. We're going to review Craven.
00:57:27
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So look forward to that, that'll happen eventually. Unless it gets delayed again, like we get to December. Well, our review might get delayed a year. It should, they just delayed another year. Yeah. It's gonna, the delays, honestly they're gonna be so good. It's gonna make it better, you know. Well, I'm Nick Ears. I'm Doug Davenport. And we're These Guys Got Juice. Have a good night. And motherfuckers act like they forgot about Cray.