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S2E12: Deploy the Pelican!
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Series spoilers abound! Today we’re discussing Season 2, Episode 12 “The Old and the Restless” and we’re going undercover. The boys are tasked with finding a missing retiree and the only way they can do this is through infiltrating a retirement community. But who is old enough to pass as retired?! Henry (duh!). We’re talking backyards, doors, mental gymnastics, retirement, and more. So grab your blood pressure meds and join Kylie and Skyler on this new episode of Phsysics 101!
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Transcript
Introduction to 'Versailles 6101' and Episode Discussion
00:00:21
Speaker
All right. everyone, and welcome to Versailles 6101, where we discuss everything about the world of psych and the antics of Sean and Gus in sunny Santa Barbara. I'm Skylar, and this is my partner, Oswald Chester.
00:00:32
Speaker
And today we'll be talking about season two, episode 12 of the famed TV show, Psych. Hello. The Old and the Restless.
00:00:44
Speaker
Old and the Restless. That's a good name for this one. It is. it is fun.
Exploring the Episode's Drama and Character Dynamics
00:00:51
Speaker
course, a reference to the classic soap the young and the restless which i mean makes a lot of sense because this is a very soapy that is true i didn't think about that yeah so yeah one of my favorite moments in this episode is like when dropping head when sean and gus think they have it figured out and they go meet henry back at the place and then and it like then these people start like dropping it's so
00:01:21
Speaker
like that whole sequence and then you see like Pamela in the window staring like yeah I love that moment and that is very soapy it does feel it's got this so incredibly drama yeah Yeah.
00:01:33
Speaker
Or even like the one i loved. um Yeah. One guy falls. They turn around. Another guy falls. Someone jumps into the pool. Yeah. It's just like. Yeah. So exciting. Yeah. Very, very.
00:01:45
Speaker
And especially, you know, the show is so silly. Like it's not always so drama filled, if you know what I mean, to have it feel like very dramatic. And in one place, like soaps, feel like they're always centered around one spot, you know.
00:01:58
Speaker
It was fun. it was fun. And to be introduced to so many like new very big personalities. h fine Yeah, it is a very fun setting.
00:02:11
Speaker
Yeah, totally. And just like the whole like how they come to be there. i Like why like their their stay there. Yeah, it's just yeah.
00:02:22
Speaker
Oh, and another favorite is the exit. Oh my gosh. so We'll get there when we get there. But like I i feel like this episode
00:02:34
Speaker
I don't know. It's not... it You wouldn't look at it and think like, oh, this is an exciting ru dramatic episode. But like there are these moments that are like... Just so fun. Yeah, absolutely. they They do such a great job of just making every situation that they're in.
00:02:51
Speaker
Yeah. The most enjoyable possible. Yes. Yeah, because you would think, you know, retirement community, like, it's going to happen there. but Yeah, well, it's just like...
00:03:03
Speaker
You know, episode 12, it's not any particular, like... yeah You know, like when we watched Bounty Hunters and it was like, oh, this is a mid-season finale. This is exciting. Like, this is not really one of those episodes. It's not a big... There's not, like, a big showpiece or anything. It's just, like, having fun. And, I mean, we we always love Henry being around. So, like, feel like that adds a lot. Totally.
00:03:26
Speaker
And I feel like we get so much...
Influences on Sean: Family and Ideology
00:03:31
Speaker
We see so much about their like relationship and their dynamics throughout this episode, even just starting with the flashback. I feel like we learned so much about them. We have referenced this flashback. I know.
00:03:41
Speaker
Multiple times. We're finally here. We've made it. this is Yeah, such a good one. But then even throughout like this weird kind of like competition that they have going on, but yeah, always being able to one up Sean, but Sean figuring it out in the end beforehand. Like it's, it's just so true because I really, I'm like watching the flashback, I wasn't even really thinking of it.
00:04:05
Speaker
I mean, in terms of Sean and Henry and this episode, like I, I'm like, Oh, this is information about Sean and Henry, but I wasn't thinking about how that related to the episode more just like, grandpa being an old man and saying like someday you'll be too old to do anything fun. Like that was what I took from it going into this episode. Yeah.
00:04:25
Speaker
But you're totally right. Like there, um, there is like this, I don't know. We really see like Sean's ideological like formation, like these two sides of it.
00:04:40
Speaker
Yeah. You know, he has these two influences and, and I do, well, let's just, yeah, let's talk about the flashback. Okay. we We start the episode with Sean and Grandpa Spencer, so Henry's dad, sitting on a bench in the backyard of Sean's house, which looks onto the beach. So it's like right outside of their property. backyard? I don't know.
00:05:05
Speaker
That's what I always thought. I always thought of it as like... the like across the street from the front of it but i don't know like how the relationship of the house to the beach i don't know well you know this also begs a very good question the the angle of the house that we see my brain has always interpreted as the back of the house okay and then let up for myself here where the you know where the like um gate is that they always go through Yeah. That's where like the beach So I always just interpreted it as like, you know, when people have like, I guess, houses on the beach, like the back opens up to towards the beach. you know what I meananor Yeah. that's a But we've never seen, we don't see the other side of the house. So I guess it would only make the most sense that they're showing us the front of the house.
00:05:56
Speaker
don't know why they would never show us the front the house. But my brain has always thought of it as the back of the house. Yeah. Interesting. I mean, yeah, I guess I think of that as the front, but yeah, I guess it could go either way. I'm just like looking. So that, I mean, what we're seeing is that the main entrance that we always see, like that they go in and out of.
00:06:16
Speaker
Yeah. I can't think of
00:06:22
Speaker
The only other entrance they sometimes go in and out of is the one in the kitchen. Oh, right, right, right. But... But who knows where Or guess it's even in the kitchen. The dining room?
00:06:37
Speaker
I'm thinking with um the the guy. what episode was this? This a little while ago now.
Character Development and Backgrounds
00:06:45
Speaker
When Henry brought a guy in to be like, tell Sean he's being ridiculous. And then Sean read the guy. yeah, yeah,
00:06:52
Speaker
And like storms out through that other door. The dinosaur one. Yes, there you go. Yes. But we don't ever really see... or what's by the garage?
00:07:06
Speaker
Because we see the garage sometimes. Hmm. He does have a grill up there, which would be kind of weird to have on your front porch. But I always thought of that as the front porch. But you're right. That could be the back opening up. Also, it's a slider.
00:07:20
Speaker
oh wait. Yeah. Wait, is it? Yeah, yeah. Interesting. It looks like sometimes it is and sometimes isn't. Oh, well, because that's a good question. I'm thinking now... when sean when Sean's mom comes and he opens the door and he goes, right Mom, like that's the he like opens a door there, but I always thought that he opened it from the living room, which I interpreted it as in the back of the house, which is where the slider is.
00:07:44
Speaker
This is fascinating. Yeah. I feel like maybe within the world within the world of it, maybe we treat them the same. Fair.
00:07:57
Speaker
um fair I wish I could, like, share my screen. Take a picture and send it to my phone. Okay. This, I don't know what this angle is, but this is the 70s episode, I believe. Oh, okay.
00:08:14
Speaker
And it's, I'm like, I don't know where that is. But, okay, here is Henry and the doghouse. Oh, okay, and that is a slider, and they are walking...
00:08:25
Speaker
That's when they walk away and they're walking on the beach, right? That's a slider. So that suggests back of the house. Okay. And then the same, okay, this is the same patio furniture, I believe, next to a non-slider.
00:08:40
Speaker
Okay. Yeah. this so Oh my, really interesting. Yeah. Cause the Henry with the dog, that's what I think of. Yeah. That very specifically they walk away and they walk down the beach.
00:08:54
Speaker
Oh my gosh. But isn't that the same patio furniture? That is the same. Yes. And the same windows. Did they just change the door? Maybe they did. As like a set, maybe they were like, we need a door. We need a slider now. Now we need a door. yeah Why not? You know, Henry's handy. I can imagine him going, I'm done with the slider.
00:09:16
Speaker
and just putting in the door himself. I could see it. But it does make one wonder, is it... Is it the front or is it the front?
00:09:27
Speaker
It makes me wonder as we are wondering at this moment. Oh my gosh. I i i don't know. This feels like parallel universe thing. Like the Berenstain bears and the Berenstain bears. Yes, totally. Okay, and here is a different shot with a physical door. But even the way that door is in there.
00:09:52
Speaker
it looks like it's where a slider was. Like there's two panels of wood on either side. Yes. Yes. So that's definitely the same side of the house. It's just, I feel like maybe they just used it in such a way that they also didn't know if it was the front or the back.
00:10:09
Speaker
They just kept changing it based on. Yeah. They were like, well, what do we want to do right now? Fair. I mean, who else is really thinking into it? that Yeah. The dog episode.
00:10:24
Speaker
That's pretty early, right? Yeah, the dog episode was oh the one with the... Is that the one with the Chinese food? So is it episode two? Spelling meat? Yeah, okay. So I wonder if that was... um Like they decided pretty quickly maybe that they didn't want that anymore. Although... Hmm.
00:10:43
Speaker
Here's the slider and this looks like... Oh, this is maybe also pretty early. That's the astronomy one. Oh, okay. All right.
00:10:53
Speaker
And it's still a slider. Okay. i feel like they started with the slider. Yeah. And then went to the actual door because the framing of it is the same. Yeah.
00:11:04
Speaker
They decided should be the front. Yeah. But, okay, wait. Here's a picture of the garage. Okay.
00:11:16
Speaker
because that I think that's the other thing that's hard for me, that like there's no, when we see the front, when we see the house, we also don't see a driveway. Yeah.
00:11:27
Speaker
So I'm kind of like, in my mind, I mean, that doesn't mean that houses don't have driveways in the back or the other way around. um But I feel like when I think of a house, I think of a driveway, like you see the driveway from looking at the front of the house.
00:11:43
Speaker
Yeah. Well, it definitely feels like the main like entrance. that its Where does it open to? Where does what open to? That door. Where does it go?
00:11:54
Speaker
I always thought it opened into the living room. So maybe the front door is whatever goes into the kitchen slash dining area.
00:12:04
Speaker
Okay. Wait. Oh, wait. What? On our psych. Oh, my God. Do not tell me you have it there at some point. Take credit. Henry's front door. Okay.
00:12:16
Speaker
Amazing. Wait, read. Let's hear it. Okay. Cass161. Shout out. One year ago. On my many rewatches, I keep trying to figure out what is the front of Henry's house. Us Cass.
00:12:29
Speaker
Us too. Sometimes they go in through sliders and sometimes he has a wooden front door, but both seem to be on the beachfront. Yes. Lo and behold, at some point during filming of the first and second seasons, they change out the sliding doors.
00:12:42
Speaker
Okay. Okay.
00:12:45
Speaker
Cruz Lutris responds, you are super observant and now I'm going to be obsessed with playing What is the Layout of Henry's House when I watch Same. also It seems like nobody knows or I feel like it could be kind of open to interpretation. Okay.
00:13:07
Speaker
That's fair. That's fine. But it is interesting. I feel like maybe it was the back door and then they maybe decided like we use this as the door so let's make it a door yeah let's make it more formalized yeah and now i'm really curious when they changed it was it like a plot reason like were they like for example h I guess it's not until season three that his mom comes, right?
00:13:36
Speaker
Yeah. Because it like for something like that, like, oh, someone's going be coming to this door. We need a door there. Right. now right I don't know. That's so interesting. Well, now I'm trying to think when was the last time we were we actually saw the back of Henry's house in our
The Investigation Begins: Oswald Chester's Disappearance
00:13:51
Speaker
viewings? Because not last episode.
00:13:54
Speaker
Not this episode. And Bounty Hunters and Christmas. Maybe Bounty Hunters because we were there for a while. Maybe. With Tancana. Oh, true. Okay. This was not a tangent I expected at all.
00:14:06
Speaker
me Me either, but what a wonderful tangent.
00:14:12
Speaker
But we can just refer to it as the beachfront side Henry's house. If we need. this is cute. the The address of the house in real life is O'Hara Lane.
00:14:23
Speaker
Wait, really? They must have named Jules after it. Oh my gosh, that's so sweet. Oh, yeah, because they they would have had it in the first episode, huh? Yeah. Shout out again, Cass161 for making that connection.
00:14:38
Speaker
JoeCo15 says, that's warping my mind right now. My best guess is that it's the same side of the house and they were just renovated a bit to replace the sliding door. I think the back is where the garage is where Sean was building the doghouse and I think that's the door to the kitchen.
00:14:55
Speaker
Okay. This door sliding in wood goes to the living room. That's just what I'm thinking.
00:15:02
Speaker
Okay. Okay. So the one to the kitchen is the one that leaves by the garage. Yeah, but I do feel like you know It's all construct of the front and the back. and but It's all just a building. But I do think if any any door that was a sliding door would indicate that is the back of the house.
00:15:27
Speaker
I don't think you would ever in a million years have a sliding door as your front door. Maybe you would put a regular door in the back. But I don't think you would ever have a sliding door in the front. No, I think that's a good point. I think that that's a good point. Yeah.
00:15:41
Speaker
So maybe it did. Maybe it started out as the the back of the house. And it would make sense as to why... Sean would end up going there. It's a little bit more informal to get like sneaky information from Henry. True. But then that's the side of the house that we continuously... Well, and the fact that the back opens to the beach and this beach front yeah and stuff, like I feel like that just makes it way more accessible.
00:16:06
Speaker
Because like even in flashbacks when they're like, like when he's with his friends and stuff, he's out yeah there. Yeah. So maybe it's just... by like ease of use that they just, that is their main entrance.
00:16:20
Speaker
Yeah. Even it's not the front. Okay. That's a good, that's a good point. I feel like a lot of people kind of have that in their houses too. Like even if it's not the front door, everyone has a door that they go through.
00:16:30
Speaker
Yeah. The most. So maybe that's just it. Yeah. And a place like that where your back fence is just this little picket fence. Like yeah why not go in that door?
00:16:41
Speaker
Sure. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Wow. Okay. I'm so glad we unpacked This is hard thing.
00:16:52
Speaker
So Grandpa Spencer and Sean have left from the beachfront side. Yeah, we'll call it the beachfront. The beachfront side. Yeah. yeah And they have... it seems like cross maybe a walking path because it doesn't really look like a street. We don't really see cars, but maybe a walking path and are sitting on a bench looking out at the beach.
00:17:15
Speaker
And as they're sitting there, you know, Grandpa Spencer says, we're just, you know, here to look. He originally gave henry the excuse or the little white lie that they were gonna bird watching but really he doesn't want to go bird watching he just wants to spend some quality goofy time with sean and in fact he wants to girl watch to watch the girls i thought actually his his quotes about the girls were kind of cute um we're here to girl watch everything they do is magical mysterious
00:17:47
Speaker
I feel like it does. i don't know. Just like ah Sean's ideas about women. Because he also has that thing from Henry, which is like you treat her like a... Which i I think is from Henry. like Yeah.
00:18:01
Speaker
I don't remember. Like, we've got us and then a princess and then a person again. Like, all that. So like, it's... It's very old school, like, othering of women. Oh, yeah, totally. Like, oh, they're these magical, like, creatures. Yeah.
00:18:16
Speaker
I do think that's kind of, like, i don't know, for, like, a little kid who doesn't have, like, any siblings, I do think it's kind of cute to be like, aren't they so adorable?
00:18:27
Speaker
Yeah, well, that's actually an interesting point. Like, he, I wonder... Other than his mom, he didn't really have like women in his life. Not really. And it seems like the most influential are his male role models.
00:18:42
Speaker
Yeah. I do wonder how close he would have been or how much of a relationship he would have but had with Joy as they were growing up. Oh, that's a good question. do think they invented her later.
00:18:54
Speaker
Yeah, totally. Maybe not very much. Yeah. um And we also don't really know. She could be quite a bit younger. um Yeah, it always like it struck me too as kind of weird that she was the younger sister. I don't know why that struck me as weird. I guess in my mind, I was just like, the boys are so young.
00:19:13
Speaker
but Like they can't have younger siblings. I don't know. Yeah. Well, it might have made more sense to like in the flashbacks that we never saw her heard anything about her if she was older and like off doing everything. Yeah, maybe that's Yeah, yeah.
00:19:28
Speaker
But you would think just like from having younger siblings. Mm hmm. they're always around you always want to be hanging out yeah you did something yeah no at all yeah so it would be kind of funny to never see her in any of the flashbacks yeah not that we spend a whole lot of time with gus like at his house or anything she could have just been that's true there yeah just ran away to sean's house every day Yeah.
00:19:56
Speaker
And also, like, I'm thinking of the last episode, that flashback, we also saw some, like, girls go to Jupiter, like,
00:20:07
Speaker
Yeah. Or the opposite. Girls go to Saturn? I don't remember. Yeah, but whatever they said. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Wherever they go. yeah But just like, ugh, girls, ugh, boys, like that kind of mentality, which is like yes classic.
00:20:21
Speaker
but But yeah, it's kind of funny to watch and just like see or imagine. Knowing how Sean interacts with women now, like just thinking about these kinds of things.
00:20:33
Speaker
Yeah. I wonder if he's had very many female friends until Vic and Jules. That's a good question. I don't know. I mean, i feel like the instances that we do see him interact, I'm thinking of, um what was her name?
00:20:52
Speaker
In the... The Forget-Me-Not episode. Trish. Trish. Yeah. I was going to say Tish. Tish. That's something else we had to deal lot with.
00:21:07
Speaker
ah Trish, I think, you know, is it because he she liked him? Is it just because he doesn't know how to, like, interact with her? But they had this whole, like, kind of weird dynamic too, you know?
00:21:20
Speaker
Yeah. Well, now that I, like... I don't know. I feel like these days we definitely are or people but try to be i think most people or people try to be conscious of like those stereotypes and stuff of like oh if a boy mean to you it means he likes you. Totally.
00:21:39
Speaker
Yeah. And all of that. But I do. Yeah. What a thing. to I'm just hearing you say that. You know. Yeah. Like. What thing to tell girls. Like. Not a good. Like.
00:21:49
Speaker
He's horrible and mean. Way to set up. Yeah. ah Mature relationships and things. and s Yeah. um But. I wonder if. Well, there's a few things.
00:22:00
Speaker
This show was made in the 2000s. So there's that. and then also. a lot of the flashbacks take place in the 80s. And there's a lot of, like, a ton of influence from media from the 80s. So I feel like a lot of these old ideas, um for one, would have probably been normal in the 2000s, too.
00:22:18
Speaker
Yeah, yeah. And even now, on regular TV. ah But just... also would come from like those influences of like john hughes and um just kind of these like old school ways of thinking and yeah between the last flashback and this one i just feel like you can kind of you can see that too yeah which i mean yeah it's an interesting it's yeah as you're saying it's very of the time which i think is really interesting to see too like how
00:22:51
Speaker
Yeah. Nowadays, like just sitting on the beach and staring at women would probably be really weird. Yeah, like staring at girls, like girls. Like it's so weird. Mine. Yeah. But it feels like something that would have happened. but oh that Totally. And also, you know, some people probably would do that now, and but unfortunately.
00:23:10
Speaker
And you know what's really interesting is that when they sit there and they start doing this, Sean immediately goes to – what can I identify about them? He, he, he. He's well-trained.
00:23:26
Speaker
He is well-trained, but he's really like, I don't know how to explain this. He's, he's being very objective with what he's looking at. And he's just saying like, this is a person. These are the things that I noticed. Yeah.
00:23:40
Speaker
Which actually tracks with like the last flashback we saw, like he has no romantic. None. Yeah, exactly. He's too young to think of, anybody in this kind of way right even when the grandpa's like no like use your imagination she's becomes a giraffe wrangler or something like it's not like uh anything about them just being like hot women or anything yeah so there is like an innocence to it totally even though it feels like grandpa's making it weird yeah
00:24:12
Speaker
I feel like that is kind of just what parents do. Yeah. You know? Yeah. So I, yeah, now that you say that, I do appreciate that we are with young Sean.
00:24:24
Speaker
Yeah. And it is an innocent experience for him. He's just, um and it, and it was also like interesting to see as we were talking about, like with the Henry influence and the grandpa influence, like I feel like he, Sean in present day uses both.
00:24:40
Speaker
Hmm. the way like grandpa's like, you use your imagination. Like you, like, it's not just what you see. And I feel like that is a part of Sean's part of the lessons too, is that he has to draw conclusions and and sometimes they're quite fanciful in a way that not everybody's capable of.
00:24:59
Speaker
And maybe that influence um sort of came from grandpa and uncle and like those other people who were less rigid Yeah.
00:25:10
Speaker
I wish we got to see more of them. Yeah. The flashbacks. Cause we really don't get a lot of grandpa Spencer and him, even though it seems like him and their uncle, which of course I can't remember his name now.
00:25:25
Speaker
um They're much more like Sean. So it kind would been fun, i think, to see more flashbacks with interacting with them as like, like-minded kind of goofs, you know?
00:25:36
Speaker
Yeah. know all that yeah and also just like as far as like him being like them i don't know like i wonder what they saw in sean like to kind of pull it out of him you know because like he's also like henry in in ways and and we have talked about how he was pretty like open to henry's influence but even in this flashback like you see when henry comes out and he's like tells him to you know how many towels or whatever yeah sean like rolls his eyes like we're starting like we i was just recently listening to the psy versus psy episode because i was making that collage yeah
00:26:19
Speaker
oh and in that he had forged the signature and it was like the kind of the first like rupture of following the rules that we really have seen with Sean and this feels like that it's like more of that little rebellion of like don't want to just do what my dad's telling me to do yeah um and only think of the world in the way that he's telling me to because like grandpa's making it a lot more fun totally Yeah. and And I love i love what grandpa said at the end to to him about like sometimes you got to let what your dad says like float through the ears. Yeah.
00:26:58
Speaker
Like he isn't the only one with like yeah all of the, you know, important information. you can make make decisions for yourself, too. Yeah. And that's such a like formative thing, I think, for everybody, you know? Yeah, totally.
00:27:14
Speaker
Like what the way you just phrase it of like, his dad is not the only person. Like his way of doing things isn't the only way of doing things. Yeah. But yeah, he ultimately just tells Sean to like have a little fun, which yeah takes to heart.
00:27:30
Speaker
Completely. Well, yeah, he started listing stuff and I was like this. Literally Sean just went check, check, check, check. While still being what Henry like were coming in the long run. It took him a while to get there, but yeah Henry wanted to do.
00:27:45
Speaker
Yeah, totally. Totally. And then I, it's so interesting because, you know, usually we have the, and tell me if you feel this way too, but usually we have the flashbacks and the flashback happens and I'm like, ah, okay.
00:28:00
Speaker
Into the episode. This time I was like, That was so quick. I was like, I want more grandpa. It was a lot to like mull over. And it yeah, it is kind of like a, I don't know. I feel like we, while we're watching it, just like greedy for like. Yeah, totally.
00:28:19
Speaker
More like Sean more. Yeah. so it's like oh I want more yeah I was just like oh my gosh that's so quick and like so I mean because it's like wait that's huge that is like yeah huge impact on who Sean is a person as a person so it is yeah totally to be like wait I want to see more of how that came into his world wanted to see him go wash the dishes or whatever whatever he had to do oh yeah that's funny I always thought he had to have a bath
00:28:50
Speaker
Oh, because he's talking about bubbles, right? Like you've got a date with some something and some suds something. Yeah, suds. But he taught – so, you know, honestly, it could be.
00:29:01
Speaker
But he said something about chores in the beginning, which is why I always thought it do with dishes. Yeah, no that makes sense. Who knows? Anywho, this is a perfect segue into – It's already been half an hour.
Comedic Investigative Antics at the Retirement Community
00:29:15
Speaker
it? Oh my god. We just talked about Henry's house. Yeah. I've integral to the the setup of this. We'll just breeze through the rest of it. Yeah, you know.
00:29:26
Speaker
So it's a good setup because not only do we see Grandpa, but he also says his parting words to Sean are that you should make your own choices, don't take life too seriously, travel the world, meet some interesting people because someday you're going to wake up and realize you're too old to do anything really fun.
00:29:41
Speaker
And then we find ourselves trying to break into our retirement community. so Which I thought this whole beginning bit was actually really very fun.
00:29:54
Speaker
Yeah. And when you don't really know where they're trying to get into, right? Yeah. So, no, we have no idea. It seems stealthy, so mysterious. Like a prison or something. Yeah. Yeah.
00:30:05
Speaker
There's an electrical fence. Yeah. Like have been trying for hours to try and get into this place. A security guard like pops up out of nowhere and removes them from the premises.
00:30:17
Speaker
Yeah. It's a whole big to do. That security guard always gives me bad vibes. Like I feel like. I agree. know if he played a bad guy in a different episode or something. But I feel like every time I watch this, I have to like remind myself he is not the bad guy.
00:30:31
Speaker
You know, he definitely feels like the bad guy. Well, I wonder too if it's. He's very aggressive. Every time we see him, he's very aggressive. Yeah. And maybe that's just not what I would expect from ah security guard of our retirement community to be so like, rawr, you know? Yeah.
00:30:54
Speaker
I mean, we see, what's his face, Jervis? And he's like so unassuming. More like the mall cop kind of guy. Yes, totally. That's more we're thinking, but... Yes.
00:31:05
Speaker
But this guy, he takes his job way serious. Yeah. And, uh, yeah, really tall and has these very, like, it's going sound weird, but very mean eyes.
00:31:15
Speaker
He's very, like, aw. But yeah, he's scary and he makes Sean and Gus leave the premises. They go to Henry's house to get some supplies, because, of course, where else would we go to get supplies? And they have, like, ah whole gaggle of things with them.
00:31:29
Speaker
Okay. Okay. I do, I always wonder with this episode, when did Plan B become, like, when did Sean think to do that?
00:31:44
Speaker
Like, with was this coming to Henry's house and grabbing ridiculous things? Like, was he baiting him to coming with them so that they could do this?
00:31:54
Speaker
You know, could see him doing that. And there are some great lines to kind of show how Sean was a little bit ahead of everybody else. like Like, I love skipping some fun stuff, but like when Gus is like, this is the part where you get blindsided by plan B. It's kind of fun when it's not happening to me.
00:32:20
Speaker
That is a great line. And then Henry says something at some point of like, when did you plan this? or some like There is this feeling that Sean knew this was going to happen like the whole time. and He said something like he grabbed...
00:32:35
Speaker
something like heat he grabbed He grabbed a notebook off a security guard. Oh, yeah, that too. Talmadge was supposed to be there and he called him and he left him. Yeah, ah and Gus didn't know about that.
00:32:48
Speaker
Right, right. Because they have that exchange of... have to i Most of my notes are just lines. I was like copying and pasting from the transcript. um So Sean says, so I called Mr. McGulliger and informed him that the community is infested with African Gambian pouch rats. And then Gus says, the largest rats in the world.
00:33:07
Speaker
Nice. Nice. He'll be back in three days. It's the amount of time it takes to fly and deploy the pouch rat's natural predator. Gus adds, the Sudanese birch pelican.
00:33:17
Speaker
Of course. Of course. He knows, obviously. um Yeah, so it I don't know, it's such a funny like setup because I feel like Sean, maybe as soon as the security guard kicked him out, Sean was like, alright, I guess I have to.
00:33:33
Speaker
Yeah, because he picked it off the security guard, so that is when he decides. And he doesn't let anybody else in on it. No. i Yeah, I bet you're right. I bet he was baiting him.
00:33:44
Speaker
Yeah, that is so funny. So like all the ridiculous things that they have.
00:33:50
Speaker
And then like making it like, oh we're going to have a stakeout. 1115. Yeah, it's just so ridiculous.
00:34:00
Speaker
yeah Yeah. the it's just just so ridiculous The fact that, yeah, Sean knows that Henry's going to be like, you're not going to do it right. What do you even think you're doing? Yeah.
00:34:12
Speaker
Oh, I did love Henry's like, when he finds out where they're going, when he asks what impenetrable stronghold. thought it was funny. And then they say it's a... and What's it called again?
00:34:29
Speaker
Glorious Pines. Glorious Pines. I keep mixing it up with... i Isn't the mental health facility from Scary Sherry something pines?
00:34:41
Speaker
Wispy something pines. Sunny pines? Yeah. I keep thinking. was like, whispering pines? I don't know. Oh, but then Henry says, my son, the super sleuth. I'm like, aw.
00:34:53
Speaker
He is so proud of him. He like is. He doesn't know how to show it, but he is definitely. He just wants to get involved. Yeah. Oh, yeah. And he... For as much as Henry expresses that he wants nothing to do with all this...
00:35:10
Speaker
He loves getting himself. my gosh. Loves. So funny. Like being able to run like evidence and stuff through so being able to talk to people, being able to give him a advice. like he He definitely loves it. He just can't show it very well. But so he super imposes himself on this case. Yes.
00:35:27
Speaker
Because they start a little, you know, competition and Henry pretty much says he can get them in there. It's not going be a problem. And he'll help him out with the stakeout. And through all of this, we find out that Their client has called them in because one of the members of the retirement community, Oswald Chester, has been missing for three days and we haven't been able to find him.
00:35:50
Speaker
So now my question is, do we think that they were called in immediately after Oswald disappeared? Or do we think they were called in like that day, the day before?
00:36:07
Speaker
Because there's a whole like conversation when we eventually get inside the retirement community about how it's been three days and you know he's gone missing before and blah, blah, blah, blah. He always ends up showing up.
00:36:19
Speaker
But it almost feels like, oh, but I waited like the three days to call you. But they've been trying for some time to get into this place. Yeah. Jervis, I feel like...
00:36:30
Speaker
you know This is his best friend. and Which is also a whole other thing. Yeah. Well, sure probably, I don't know. was like, did you know him before you got here? Did you guys become friends when you worked as a security guard? Is that allowed?
00:36:47
Speaker
mean, could see it being like, yeah we buds. There's nothing like... They're just people.
00:36:58
Speaker
It'd be like if you were friends with your doorman or something. That's fair. um but Jervis like knows his routines and stuff you know so I feel like maybe he would have called within like a day but he does say he tried the police he tried that's true so he tried a couple other things and then maybe it could have been a situation which we have seen before where he went to the police and they were like haha why don't you call these losers in your stupid case
00:37:29
Speaker
yeah that's fair That would make sense. I don't necessarily know how he would have found them otherwise. Right. Because, yeah. like Because maybe it would have taken some time to find them.
00:37:40
Speaker
It would be the only other like thing that might delay him. Right. But, yeah, I feel like they've been trying for a couple days to get in there. Yeah. Okay. But by the time we get inside, i guess that's the big part. By the time we get inside Glorious Pines Retirement Community, it has been three days of our main man, Oswald Chester, being missing.
00:38:04
Speaker
But the fun part of this episode, or one of the very fun parts of this episode, is that we have to manage actually get in there, this impenetable and impenetrable threshold or whatever Henry called it. um And it starts off with the three of them, Gus, Sean, and Henry, just walking into the place and we're making some observations along the way.
00:38:25
Speaker
I do want to There is this great little exchange when there's staking out. Oh, in the car. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And Henry is just like going at Sean about how much he sucks at this.
00:38:38
Speaker
And Sean... Right? And Sean is like, all right, that's enough of this nonsense and gets out and walks away. Yeah. Which I love that knowing that Sean has... Or assuming that Sean has like...
00:38:49
Speaker
um
00:38:53
Speaker
what is the word I'm looking for? Like plotted out this whole thing. yeah Arranged it all. Yeah. And like you see this like you see i feel like the facade slip which testament to James Roday Rodriguez's performance.
00:39:06
Speaker
Yeah. as always but like you see that like he's legitimately does not want to hear this from Henry anymore and then he gets out and walks away and I just love that moment because like you know, everything's going according to plan. right Yeah.
00:39:24
Speaker
Like, they they still have this, like, tension, and the way they just go back and forth between being allies to being adversaries is just so brilliant all the time. Yeah. say And who can, like, who can nudge at you better than family?
00:39:41
Speaker
Yeah. And the two of them are often so at odds yeah that it would it would make sense. And Henry is so stubborn. so stubborn that it would make sense that he couldn't put aside ribbing Sean on something um for the case or for working together yeah Sean was kind of ribbing Henry too wasn't he like he he was ah saying like could we have parked any farther ah the half a mile mile and a half away from you know whatever whatever yeah well it is I mean have we seen them work a case together
00:40:17
Speaker
i Not as closely as we will see them work a case. So this is like Yeah. Kind of a big step for them. Like, yeah. Like you really see the way they don't, the way they don't do things the same way. Yeah.
00:40:37
Speaker
Well, yeah. And it's kind of interesting to see someone work with Sean who is not so willing. Like, cause Gus, even in the beginning when he was like not buying into the whole thing, he was still willing to go along with all the silly antics.
00:40:53
Speaker
Henry's just not about it. Yeah. Yeah. and was like I'm going to go do my own thing and I'll figure it out my way. Yeah. Because guests, they have like a shorthand or even like the plan B thing. like ah yeah There is a sense that like It does often happen to him and Gus has to just roll with it. But it's fun to watch it happen to somebody else. Yeah. what And two, I assume Gus has to be like, I'm expecting it. When's it going to happen? and but Right. And we talked about last episode, like he sort of, I mean, we think, craves this kind of thing.
00:41:31
Speaker
chaos definitely definitely but henry on the other hand think he's the far he's the farthest thing from craving chaos he really wants everything to be pretty orderly and he wants to do it his way the right way you know yeah So it's interesting to yeah get to see the two of them attempt to work together.
00:41:53
Speaker
Really not even work together and then it's still not work well and then end up doing two separate things in the process. It's kind of fun. but So we're walking into the the retirement home and we're trying to figure out like how are we going to actually get in here.
00:42:10
Speaker
Because none of us are in on though the bit yet. Yeah. And as we walk in, Henry starts being like given these things. Oh my gosh. I love this sequence so much. So good.
00:42:23
Speaker
So good. Because really the only thing that they for sure knew were going to be there were the glasses. Yes. I just love that they're like taking hats off of people and throwing coffee on him, stealing cane. The coffee is so funny. yeah The coffee is so funny.
00:42:39
Speaker
As if they were like, okay, we can't just make him seem old, but we also have to make him seem like clumsy, like he's losing his mind. Yeah. Well, I feel like, because there's a lot, and they harp on a lot how Henry doesn't seem old enough to be here. And so I feel like they have to emphasize that he can't take care of himself. Sure.
00:42:56
Speaker
Sure. Yeah. Yeah. ah yeah and I did think it was funny to like cover that up he was like well he was a male model and got a lot of work done a lot of work done Skylar is gesturing as Sean does yes yeah it's so funny um another thing that was I'm curious what the age group is for this place because retirement communities are typically 55 and over I believe yeah yeah usually which is not that old and like henry maybe 55 at this point like ah maybe yeah he gets mad at he gets mad at pamela calling him 59 yeah so he's gotta be yeah be around yeah
00:43:43
Speaker
Uh, yeah. So it's kind of funny that, you know, these are like super old people, but it's like, and Sean even emphasized it's a retirement community. Yes.
00:43:53
Speaker
Which I feel like is what you say when it's like, no, they're not that old. Right. Yeah. Yeah. Cause well, you could have retirement community. You could also have like a senior living facility. True. Or like an assisted living facility. And I feel like all those like varying, varying levels of need.
00:44:08
Speaker
Yeah. But yeah, this one seems very, don't want to say like benign because there is almost an assisted but part of it. They are given medication. They are given food. Yeah. But it doesn't seem. Yeah, they can't have full-time care.
00:44:21
Speaker
Correct. Correct. So it doesn't seem like, yeah, they need to have people with them independently all the time. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Yeah. But yeah, i wonder, I wonder how old they are, um especially because i feel like, I don't know if I just have a bad gauge on age or if it's like, you know, it's kind of hard to tell people's age nowadays, or I feel like we have a very specific sense of like what someone should look like in order to be a certain age, you know, yeah have the gray hair, they should be dressed a certain way. You know what i mean?
00:44:56
Speaker
So I don't, I don't know. are they like 70s are they 80s are they well they they say he's 72 that they're live 72 yes they did so maybe it is like 70s yeah okay i just i guess corbin bernson would have been about 54 at this time he himself yes okay so i guess we'll assume henry is around that age okay so a little young for it But maybe that's why he gets on. He's not that far away.
00:45:27
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. guess that's true. And he seems to be fair. He seems like once he's in it, he's really enjoying himself. Yeah. And he gets along with everybody. Yeah. Swimming in a pool, eating good food.
00:45:41
Speaker
Yep. Yeah. But it's such a funny premise. Get him in there and then. when his name too like my gosh just sean like and yeah the first time i watched it and he said talmadge mcgooliger i was like he just made that and that's what henry thinks too i love that moment where he's just like really yeah much mcgooliger and it like makes it so much funnier because for once actual guy yeah
00:46:13
Speaker
Yeah, and what a name. I bet that man had, like, ah wonderful time with that name. Yeah, well um when you see him at the end, he seems like such a, like, I don't professional. Like, he'd be, like, a golfer.
00:46:26
Speaker
Yeah. A businessman. I could see Talmadge McGulliger as a golfer. I could see that. He's, like, a CFO or something. ah Yeah, totally. That's his vibe. Yeah. Yeah, so, oh, and then we meet Pamela, who is not very welcoming. Yeah.
00:46:43
Speaker
No. And i I'm still not positive of what her job is. What does she do? What'd she say? She's like the senior or she's the administrator, the head administrator or something.
00:46:55
Speaker
Okay. so she like She basically runs it. And does the paper. Okay, okay, okay, okay. All right, fair enough. but So it's funny to me that she's like has such animosity when they come in. She has no idea.
00:47:10
Speaker
Well, I wonder, does she get like a bunch of people that just walk in that could be it seems like it's because she i mean place yeah and once she realized that he was like on quote unquote on the list yeah she seemed much more welcoming so i wonder if that was like her yeah it just seems funny that like not knowing he's not on the list right that she would be so mean to him she yeah like can make a bad impression on your new person yeah Maybe because she thought he looked too young too.
00:47:42
Speaker
Oh, that yeah. That could possibly be So it possibly Talmadge. Yes. I do love when she thinks she realizes that it's him and she's like, you are I've been waiting for. Yeah, yeah.
00:47:53
Speaker
Creepy. I also love, um it's like right after they leave Pamela. She has gone to get the paperwork and they like go to just view part of the facility.
00:48:10
Speaker
And Henry's like, I'm going to be Mr. McGuffin. And Sean goes, McDonald. and And Gus is like, McGulliger. And Henry's like, I'll be all those guys and have this case solved.
00:48:21
Speaker
Funny. So good. Like Henry's quick and funny too, but a very like different way than Sean is. So yeah, we kind of set up the episode. We're going to have a little competition.
00:48:34
Speaker
and Henry is stuck in a... Absolutely. For three days. They have three days to deploy the pelican.
00:48:43
Speaker
That's really what the this whole episode... This is the codename of this episode. Deploy the pelican. Title of that. Oh, done! I had to get down.
00:48:54
Speaker
um yeah and then go to title sequence and then we're with Lassie and Jules at the police station and Vic and this was an interesting like little side quest for them it is I feel like this I've never oh I'm never that excited about this I feel like maybe it's just because like not it's not much for them do I don't know yeah Well, and I think we've talked about, too, in the past how the best episodes are when Jules and Lassie and Sean and Gus kind of end up working on the same thing, but in different ways, and then kind end up like coalescing at the end. This was two very separate things that had nothing to do with each other.
00:49:39
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah, you're right. They only really interact when Sean tries to get them involved. Right. um And then they don't get involved. Right. So there's that.
00:49:52
Speaker
Yeah. And I guess maybe too, for them, it also feels very low stakes. Like they're just yeah watching a kid.
Jules and Lassiter's Subplot: Police Work and Personal Dynamics
00:50:01
Speaker
Mm-hmm. It's just kind of a punk. ah get Yeah.
00:50:06
Speaker
It's probably one of those things that but we've talked about before, but like Goochberg where they just had... Yeah. That like this is a B story we can throw in some point. Yeah. um Yeah.
00:50:20
Speaker
And I could see it so kind of similarly to Goochberg. I could see it going somewhere if it had to. But maybe just where it was thrown into the season or whatever. It was kind of like a like you said, like a one off. And if it works, it works. If it doesn't, it doesn't.
00:50:37
Speaker
Yeah. And also, I feel like this kid is. unappealing. He's just like just a little. He's a creep to be quite honest. Yeah and he's really creepy with Jules in like a weird way.
00:50:51
Speaker
Yeah. I feel like only part that is kind of fun is the kind of the prisoner that Lassie brings in to like scare him straight I feel like that guy gives a great performance yeah he does just like such a range of like he starts like trying to be this like stereotypical um you know tough guy to tell him how scary it is and then he just like i don't know his whole voice changes his whole demeanor changes it's like I feel like he does a great job yeah he does totally
00:51:25
Speaker
But other than that, yeah, it's like, it's just there. Yeah. not Not my favorite Jules and Lassie side quest. Yeah. Did we even explain what it is?
00:51:37
Speaker
I don't even think we did because we just, it's so important. There's a, there's a kid whose mom is the deputy mayor. We find out who's just being a, he's being a scooch. He's being a punk.
00:51:47
Speaker
He's like going around town and doing like little petty crimes that he shouldn't be doing. And the mom doesn't want him in the system. So he goes to the police station and is supposed to be like essentially scared straight. Like Kylie said, by Jules and Lassie.
00:52:03
Speaker
And um it seems like kind of whatever they do, he's not really all that intimidated. yeah do like thinking about it ah more like holistically, like because of the I like when Jules is like and he gets this special treatment because.
00:52:19
Speaker
Yeah. Like she doesn't really have a lot of patience for this i feel like like because you know the fact that this kid doesn't have to yeah face the consequences that other another kid would because his mom is the deputy mayor and so i feel like maybe that adds to the conclusion of it which is that after kind of sitting back letting lassie try bumble his way through like scaring this guy this kid um jules takes him in there and just like lays into him and we don't know what she says but maybe that was part of it was just like you get over yourself because yeah totally yeah so that is kind of fun it is mostly for her character you get this it's just this like
00:53:12
Speaker
And what we're left with is like them all watching her walk away like all pleased with herself. Yeah. Very cute. Yeah. And I do. It is nice to.
00:53:24
Speaker
yeah This is one of the first times where we've really seen that other side of Jules. Like we know that Jules is, as Lassie said, a very dedicated cop, like good at her job, great with all her paperwork, whatever, whatever. elie the car Not hot.
00:53:38
Speaker
But not hot. Yeah. Definitely not hot. which I do appreciate that he said that like yeah you know yeah she's all these other things not make track like he is yeah he is not objectifying her in any way they are this is a professional relationship I appreciate that he tried to yes shut down that kid yeah which also for her lay to lay into him at the end like he keeps reducing her to just this the hot yeah cop so yeah yeah
00:54:12
Speaker
Yeah, it's nice to see that she's also... ah We know that she's more, but it's nice to see you this like other side of her professional. yeah Yeah, that's true. We haven't seen her do that.
00:54:24
Speaker
No, yeah, she's but she's been pretty... don't want say soft-spoken, but a little more demure. even in the last episode, we saw like her and Lasseter's different styles yeah with the...
00:54:38
Speaker
um that informant guy rusty rusty yeah um and and she tri she kind of tries that with this kid yeah and then by the end she's just like done
00:54:52
Speaker
no she's like so why are you acting out And Lassie's like, I'm not acting out. He started it. I love that. I love that. She was like, I was talking to the kid Lassie.
00:55:06
Speaker
Too much. I also loved when they were in Vic's office. When she was trying to explain what's going to happen here. Lasseter was like I'm glad we're on the same page, Chief. How are we going to try him as an adult?
00:55:20
Speaker
Oh my god, Lasseter. She's taking back like 50 notches. 50 notches. Yeah. He is definitely 0 to 60 in 3.5. He is like as... so Yeah. the The dynamic with the three of them is very fun.
00:55:36
Speaker
But yeah, I guess... I'm coming around now more to the the fact that we get to see Jules like where her line is with people like she'll yeah she'll try that technique that like going you know she'll play nice and then and then she won't yeah So we we head back to the retirement community when we meet our client, who is Jervis, who we've introduced already. He is a security guard on the premises of Glorious Pines Retirement Community.
00:56:15
Speaker
And like Kylie said, he... is best friends with oswald chester so knew his routine very well could kind of tell when he was getting a little cagey and he was gonna you know run off or go somewhere that he wasn't supposed to for a period of time and he called the police and tried to make them aware of the fact that this time was different but no one believed him because oswald has disappeared 12 other times before I loved in this little scene. So they're actually in Oswald's bedroom, which is also going to be Talmadge's bedroom because they share, i guess.
00:56:49
Speaker
Jervis is talking about how he knows Oswald so well. Like, you know, he wouldn't just disappear like blah, blah, blah, blah. And Henry goes life lesson number 20, which I feel like is probably actually number 20 on a list of life lessons that Henry Oh my gosh.
00:57:05
Speaker
People lie. was like, Oh, You're so right, sir. People lie and they leave without warning. Life sucks. Life sucks. He can be quite cynical.
00:57:18
Speaker
Yeah. Like, ouch. That is, i mean, that is a That's a tough belief to hold. Yeah. And I wonder if that comes from that is a very like hardened.
00:57:30
Speaker
Yeah. View on the world. I wonder if that comes from lived, lived personal experience or is it just being a cop for 25 years and seeing what didn't help.
00:57:42
Speaker
yeah Yeah. All this hardship and whatever, or even, you know, we don't really know exactly what happened with Henry and Sean's mom. Like, yeah. I mean, and they leave without warning. And they leave without warning.
00:57:57
Speaker
Life sucks. Yeah. Life sucks. I don't know. It's not just and they leave or I don't know. Like, and they leave without warning. Yeah. huh Yeah. That's an interesting thing to think about. Henry's relationship with the truth and lying and stuff because we i mean we deal in that a lot with sean with gus we talked about that last week yeah um but like henry yeah he doesn't he's pretty he is very by the book and he is quite honest like he doesn't want to be a liar he doesn't want to well it felt
00:58:37
Speaker
I'm thinking back to just the first episode. It felt very much like Henry wanted nothing to do with Sean lying. Yeah. In order to get these jobs. Mm-hmm.
00:58:49
Speaker
So I wonder, know, kind where his moral compass is on all of this. Like, was he a very straight laced, like, I'm always going to tell the truth kind of a person?
00:59:03
Speaker
Or did he realize that, you know, kind of in the middle gray area, like sometimes little white lies have to happen? Or is he the, you know, the Sean type?
00:59:15
Speaker
Lie for my benefit. I doubt it. Yeah. I mean, I think he... i'm also thinking of, like, in later episodes where we kind of see his... go back to his career...
00:59:29
Speaker
um one when with the bombing one the 70s episode where he has to confront the fact that he was wrong about something and then yeah santa barbara town where he has to confront all the corruption that was yeah his own like unit or like the team that he was with and like how shocking and humbling it is for him to go through that and so i do feel like he is not a liar in the way that yeah Sean is a liar.
01:00:01
Speaker
Yeah. well and And it also comes very much so across in those episodes. Like, Henry was so, so straight-laced that everyone knew he was so straight-laced. You know what I mean? Like, people weren't even gonna give him a whiff to the fact that they were kind of crooked.
01:00:21
Speaker
Yeah. And he also couldn't really conceive of the fact that right people were crooked or people were like yeah that his own department was as corrupt as it was yeah like he kind of thought everybody was playing by the same rules and and that allows or forces him to get more like disillusioned with the profession yeah so i wonder how he's managing with all i mean now he's had two whole years to to deal yeah I mean, well, yeah, it definitely seems to be, like, still a struggle for him. Like, maybe he is weighing it with, like, how much, not even just success, but, like,
01:01:04
Speaker
Kind of how much good he's doing, eat like Sean is doing. Yeah, yeah. But it doesn't seem like he doesn't really want to be in a position to lie for Sean more than he already is. Right. Which makes this episode so interesting.
01:01:17
Speaker
Yeah. Because he is just the whole thing. Yeah. Lying it up. I wonder if he can draw a line between lying and undercover.
01:01:28
Speaker
Oh, that's a great point. That's a great point. Is this, <unk> sounds so silly, is this sanctioned undercover? Right. But I feel like as silly as that sounds, yeah that is the kind of mental gymnastics that human beings do yeah that's true like that is like so human to be like yeah oh well in this situation right right it's okay right yeah no no real absolutely well and you know right they've been hired by a client to come and see what's going on his help to get them into the yeah and also like drawing on his like
01:02:10
Speaker
want his competitiveness with sean and his methods like wanting to do it the way right he knows how the way real cops do whatever right one and i wonder too has henry done undercover work before maybe he must have right he was there for so long must have especially in santa barbara so much crime the of the world of the entire world did you know
01:02:36
Speaker
Yeah, so i I bet, yeah, there is a little, ah we know there's a lot of competition here. ah But yeah, he's going to do it by the book. He's going to do it the right way, even if he's lying. Yeah, I feel like that's why love these characters so much is because they're so yeah yeah contradictory and complex and like they feel real.
01:02:58
Speaker
Without a doubt. Yeah,
01:03:03
Speaker
yeah there's really never a time in the show where I'm like, that was weird would have actually said that or like would you yeah you know yeah it it really it really just kind of feels like almost a documentary i'm just following you know like of course that happened of course you guys got mad at each other and sean stormed off and then sean spilled coffee on you you like duh What else would have happened here? Nothing.
01:03:31
Speaker
So, yes, while we are learning about life lesson number 20, Sean also clocks a couple of really important clues in the room, such as a friendship bracelet, a wallet that was left behind, and also some running distances marked on a calendar.
01:03:52
Speaker
All of which help us come to the conclusion that Oswald likely went out running, leaving his wallet behind, and never came back.
01:04:04
Speaker
So we decide to track Oswald's possible run And on our way out of the building, we meet Meredith Cloverfield, who is like one of the food services people who helps with um delivering food that meets all nutrition requirements as well as allergy and dietary restrictions. Mm
01:04:32
Speaker
And we learned about one of Sean's other jobs, which was working in a casino. Yes. Native American casino, which I feel like this isn't the first time.
01:04:43
Speaker
you know I think. um Him like working on a reservation or something. and Yeah, I think in the. He uses that as well when they're looking for. The money.
01:04:56
Speaker
with Raylene that episode. oh Okay, yeah, yeah. cause i think He said that and I was like, wait, I feel like I've heard this before. yeah Also, before we go out to the... I just have to talk about a couple moments.
01:05:08
Speaker
Yes. couple moments. um One, Gus being a total hypochondriac about like his carpal tunnel and stuff. So funny. yeah So Gus. ah thumb splint. like Yes.
01:05:20
Speaker
um When they run into the security guard who... can like disposed of them before and sean's like visitors pals oh so good yeah that the same i wrote it down but i don't remember how they did it but they're just like ridiculous and it's so funny um And then Sean knowing when the Santa Barbara Marathon is.
01:05:41
Speaker
Because yeah it's the same as Val Kilmer's birthday. Of course. Obviously. Obviously. It's ridiculous. um And then what's her face?
01:05:52
Speaker
The food lady, Meredith. Asking if Henry has any anxiety restrictions. And Sean's like, he can only have egg whites and powdered dirt.
01:06:03
Speaker
out And then Gus says, like, an only liquid after... ah yeah yeah i love that Gus is also messing with him. Well, they're, you know, his grandsons. Yeah. they brokely That was all very fun.
01:06:18
Speaker
Yes, so fun. And then we go into the woods. Yes, into the woods. We go... tracking his run. They go up some, this is like a whole big thing. They like follow it down the road. They see a hiking trail. They go into the hiking trail.
01:06:36
Speaker
There's two pathways. They can go downhill or uphill. Sean licks some gravel. He says go uphill. Like this whole big thing. We get to some beautiful stairs, which I was like, where is this? This is gorgeous.
01:06:47
Speaker
I want to take this run every day. Yeah, it does seem nice. Right? To which we then see Sean, what Sean quotes as arterial red. which i thought was that took me a minute i was like is he talking about something else and then no no no okay no yeah yeah but but yeah um and there's a whole conversation which i thought this was so interesting again just adding to the texture of their relationship about gus wanting sean to try blood his whole life It just comes and it goes. Like, wait. Like, there's no problem whatsoever.
01:07:22
Speaker
Yeah, what is it with you? My whole life, you've been trying to get me to taste blood. Yeah, and Gus's face is sha it's like, yeah like, knows that has been.
01:07:34
Speaker
totally has been. Yeah, and love Sean's imitation of him. It'll make it better. Make it feel better. make it feel better. And Gus is like, it will. Yeah. So strange. Yeah, I would love to know more about that. Yes.
01:07:50
Speaker
but And I want to know, is that going to come back up in the vampire episode? I don't think it ever comes back. I mean, that's not, I don't know. It's so strange. It is such a weird, so them of like,
01:08:04
Speaker
Shared history. Yeah. Well, because he does. I guess it. Yeah. It starts with Gus saying like, lick it. Yeah. Yeah. And she I was like, why would I do that? It's not rock.
01:08:18
Speaker
It's so strange. It's so strange. But that is a very friendship thing to be like, what is it? You do this to me all the time. Cut out. Stop it. But they end up finding yeah blood on a rock as well as a step counter, I guess.
01:08:33
Speaker
yeah mile counter i did what do you call it yeah that and um sean i thought this was so impressive sean turns to gus and goes how many miles do you think we are from the retirement community i guess it was about six was like i would have no reference no do they walk that whole thing i i guess so i mean we didn't see him get any i guess did comment like that guy must be in really good shape That's true. i I mean, they went over a beautiful bridge. They went up some stairs, up a huge hill. I mean, it does seem pretty extensive.
01:09:04
Speaker
Yeah. But the pedometer said about 6.1, approximately, miles. So we're guessing that, yes, this is where his body should be.
01:09:19
Speaker
However, it's not. So where is his body? Question mark. And we decide that the best place for it, if he's not at the retirement community and he's not here, is probably some form of possibility. And he's not Right, not in the morgue, which they theoretically would know.
01:09:36
Speaker
He's probably in the hospital. So they go to a nearby hospital and try and find him. They look for a Talmadge. No, not Talmadge. Wrong person. They look for an Oswald Chester.
01:09:46
Speaker
No one of that name there. Sean remembers that he doesn't have his wallet, so of course they wouldn't have his name. He asks him to check the John Does. All the Does, Cookie, Taekwon, Dosey, whatever else he can think of in the moment.
01:10:02
Speaker
And she ends up essentially being like, no. She tells them that visiting hours are over, but I'm kind of like, yeah, that's true. Yeah. Was she just like, you can't just come in here looking for John does.
01:10:16
Speaker
um I think maybe. Yeah. yeah But luckily. They to go undercover again. This is a big undercover episode. Yeah. Isn't this like legitimately illegal? Like committing like medical fraud or something? Sure. Absolutely. doctors And what is a candy striper?
01:10:35
Speaker
I don't know what a candy striper is. I don't know either. you Just know that Gus dresses in candy cane colors. That's all I know. Candy striper. I feel like it's like old tiny. Is that a hospital volunteer? Yeah.
01:10:49
Speaker
oh okay also known as candy stripers in the united states okay oh ri without regular pay in a variety of health care settings usually under the direct supervision of nurses okay um so yeah that's from wikipedia it's volunteers Okay.
01:11:12
Speaker
Well, that makes that makes sense then. Sean just has his own personal candy striper. Nicknack. Yeah, Nicknack. Hello. yeah He's from Guam. some what Yeah, what a great but little throne there.
01:11:28
Speaker
So fun.
01:11:31
Speaker
ah Yeah, so they they quickly get some residents to...
01:11:37
Speaker
like sean just confidently comes in and acts like he's uh their supervisor or whatever yeah and gets them to tell them things and i love when they show the wound on this one person and they're both just like who's like gonna throw up and then sean's like oh it's a roadkill like the students are looking at him like um are you okay yeah
01:12:04
Speaker
Yeah, what do you say? something Something more more coma-like. Yeah, I'm looking for more, i was thinking of something like, he's speaking of wine, like something in an older man, ah something more or coma-like state.
01:12:20
Speaker
And then the young woman is like, the patient behind you is in a coma. And he's like, no Which I love because like we never really, feel like we don't hear a lot of cursing ever. No. And he doesn't, but it's just like, no, and know I such a funny like, when he turns around.
01:12:39
Speaker
Yeah, all of this is so funny. Just. Oh, yeah. So ridiculous. I love the whole, um you know, your poor bedside manner. Yeah. Speak to me like I'm 10 because I'm 5.
01:12:53
Speaker
Yeah, that is the escalation of that. Yeah. Speak to me like I'm 10. They still don't understand it at all. And they're like, tell me like I'm 5. Yeah.
01:13:02
Speaker
He fell down and his brain got an owie. then And his blood pressure went boom. Yeah. yeah And then ah Sean got the information he needs. So he's like, yeah I'm going to take a break.
01:13:18
Speaker
Get a, I don't know what he said, probably a Clark bar or something. Yeah.
01:13:26
Speaker
And then the students like we still have a lot more patience and he's like five minutes isn't going to kill them is it? Is it? Is it?
01:13:37
Speaker
It's just great. I imagine it must be so I could never do it. I could never be a doctor. imagine it must be so stressful to be like, it must feel, especially in a, an ER or something like that. must feel like you're just constantly against the clock.
01:13:53
Speaker
Oh my gosh. Yeah. I've sort of recently was like, I'm going to watch ER. r Cause I feel like it's right up my alley, you know, drama yeah from the nineties. It looks great. And I was like, this is too intense for me.
01:14:07
Speaker
Yeah. No, it's just like horrible. you seen Grey's Anatomy? I watched some. I really liked Katherine Heigl. So I watched some like when she was there, but i yeah I've never really kept up with it.
01:14:20
Speaker
I was going to feel like that's more, probably less a less intense version. of Yeah. I do think yeah ER r in particular, like setting in an yeah ER is... yeah awful because it's like all the worst possible things that could happen go through there and then go somewhere else yeah it's like they all go there yeah have you seen scrubs feel like you like scrubs too no i probably don't like scrubs scrubs is very like psyche but doctors oh yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah there is like a kinship there huh yes totally
01:14:53
Speaker
Oh, I also thought it was funny that Sean was like, so what does that tell us? As if he's like, I'm the doctor. Right. Yes. Love me. It's so brilliant. Yeah. So smart. The way he like constructs this.
01:15:05
Speaker
Yeah. um So that he will get the information he wants from the people who are actually experts by framing himself as the expert. like Yes. Brilliant. Yeah. Or he said something like, and why do we suspect foul play?
01:15:17
Speaker
And we're like, we don't suspect foul play. And then he was like, well, what about this could have been so something, something. And then they were like, well, you know, oh, we don't suspect foul play because, you know, if they're more elderly. They might have forgotten to take their medication. They could have taken it more than once in the day. But by yeah accident, he's like, OK, so they took too much of their blood pressure meds.
01:15:42
Speaker
And that's going end up being and so smart. Yeah. Very clever. Well, he definitely understands the whole, like, if you act like you belong, people aren't going to question you.
01:15:53
Speaker
And he plays to that a lot. then we go back to sunny wispy sunny pines glorious pines and we see henry living his best life well living it up sort a great weve had all these quirky old people like the comedian oh my gosh so cringe so cute i can't even so just so old
01:16:21
Speaker
Yeah, the jokes are really, really cringe. Yeah. And I love just, like, yeah, the way the generational divide like, showed. And Sean's like, I don't get it. Yeah.
01:16:31
Speaker
Yeah. It's so funny. He wasn't even Asian. yeah And Henry is just like, ah, ha, ha, ha. Like, I feel like he's just, he's just like laughing, like, because he's like, to be a part of it. I don't know. It feels more like a communal experience than even like laughing at a joke.
01:16:47
Speaker
Yeah, totally. Because it's not even a joke. Anyway, I don't know. Yeah. It's very silly. And this is, we kind of, we talked about this earlier, but, oh, we see Henry flirting with, a what's her face?
01:16:59
Speaker
I can never remember her name. meredith Meredith. When she brings his food. Oh, yes. um And then, yeah, this is like the fun where Sean and Gus feel like they have solved it because they found...
01:17:16
Speaker
Oswald Chester. Yes. And he took too many meds. And so case closed. We have the sweetness. and then And then people will start dropping.
01:17:29
Speaker
And um Pamela's in the window and Henry's like, there's more to it. Mm-hmm. Yeah, you saw the bracelets, didn't you? Yeah.
Unraveling the Mystery: Clues and Discoveries
01:17:40
Speaker
Oh, my gosh.
01:17:40
Speaker
It's just Yeah. I just love this idea of like, Henry being the master of all these skills that he's taught Sean. So, like, of course, I'm going to ask you.
01:17:53
Speaker
You saw the bracelets, right? Yeah. I know that they're there. Yeah. But you saw them, too. You know. Yeah. um So we're noticing that everyone's, like, kind of connected.
01:18:05
Speaker
They all happening happen they all happened to be wearing these like handmade friendship bracelets, essentially. But it's actually... like a i guess not a friendship bracelet but like a boyfriend bracelet yeah that's true a woman whose name is chelsea in the community makes for four boyfriends it's like kind of cute i mean sure not what else are you gonna with your time and then make like cute friendship bracelets um
01:18:37
Speaker
So we think, you know, Chelsea's maybe connected. So Henry goes and dances with Chelsea and Sean, of course, wants to also dance with Chelsea to cut in and get some information.
01:18:51
Speaker
So we we ah tag team a tango. Yeah. Yes. Tango tag team. The drama is. love how Sean so into it. Yeah. And like even the way he speaks is like.
01:19:04
Speaker
Yes. Very dramatic. I also love Gus and his dance partner. It's so sweet. Just standing still. So cute.
01:19:15
Speaker
And she's like, dip me. Yeah. marvelous yeah they do not move nothing it's funny yeah it's sweet well and it does i love the idea too of gus being like i will just stand here with you yeah yeah okay whatever you need ma'am um oh yeah so they find out from chelsea that they she makes them in her Did we find out then that like the blood pressure class or not till later?
01:19:48
Speaker
i think it's like a craft class. Well, she makes them there and then she met everybody in blood pressure. Oh, yes. yes Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Right. they they There's like a seminar or something on blood pressure. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yes.
01:20:06
Speaker
Maybe it's just about the blood pressure medicine. Oh, no. Okay. No, no, no. Yeah, you're right. Because this line that I have, I'm trying to remember where it was, but maybe when Henry says he heard about a break-in in the pharmacy where they stole, like, oxycodone, like some hard drugs and blood pressure medicine. And blood pressure So it was Yes, yep.
01:20:25
Speaker
And then Sean's like, all right, at least we get at least that gives us the how. Now we just got to figure out the why. Which reminds me, Gus, will you please get us some tickets for the who? And Gus says, where? And then they go, whoop, whoop. so but They're so cute. They are so cute. He's joking all the time.
01:20:41
Speaker
i know. They're just doing it. Oh, they want to go get paperwork they want to break into the office
01:20:53
Speaker
I love this whole sequence of them like coming down the stairs oh my and John's like make a diversion oh I stubbed my toe he's like it's gotta be more than that or dude dude something do you just go from 1 to 10 like that
01:21:18
Speaker
And then Pamela comes out she's like, you're not even holding your liver. Holding your spleen. And he's like, my spleen!
01:21:28
Speaker
But also, like, I can just imagine, like, yeah, I kind of, like, ah what's the word the person people that like always think that they're sick what's the word for that hypochondriac yes i can imagine just like slightly hypochondriac pamela has this energy that she's yeah been through this before like he says she says the spleen and as soon as he goes oh my god i knew that would happen why did i say that like that so in the process of this wonderful diversion
01:22:02
Speaker
The boys end up making their way to Pamela's office to look at some ah paperwork, which Sean very conveniently happens to grab the moment they walk in. Yes. To this office.
01:22:13
Speaker
And we find out that all of the victims, of course, had high blood pressure, which we knew, but were also FTCs. and would be asked to leave soon because of their FTC, which Gus says means full-time care.
01:22:30
Speaker
So this is what we know means that there's no full-time care in the, whatchamahoozit, in the retirement community.
01:22:42
Speaker
And then I don't really know how they make the jump to the someone on the waiting list got tired of waiting. I think just the idea that people are getting kicked out because of what's happening to them.
01:22:56
Speaker
Ah, I see. And Sean's just like, that's what's happening here. like it i think it's just like, deduction.
01:23:05
Speaker
and then And then, well, it's really just a hunch. And then they look at the waiting list and they're like, see someone you recognize? And so it like all kind of comes together, I feel like. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yes.
01:23:17
Speaker
Yeah, okay, yeah, yeah, that makes sense. Yes, so it if they had waited just a little bit longer, there would have been spots because these people were about to go on full-time care.
01:23:29
Speaker
Yeah, they were going to get kicked out. Right, but they got tired of waiting, so they started killing them. Or just, well, no, they only need full-time care because they're in a coma or whatever. They're getting, like, their, uh, the medical...
01:23:45
Speaker
impact of the overdose is making them require more care oh is that that's how i interpreted it like that one guy being in a coma and that's gonna kick him out yeah and whatever like whatever his state is whenever he comes to or i don't know how that works but if he ever does he would require full-time care which That's how i interpreted it. it Because none of them die. they don't. Which made a note. Nobody dies.
01:24:17
Speaker
okay. I didn't realize that. Yeah. so I think she's just like okay giving them heart attacks because then they'll require more care. That's like very... Yeah. Yeah.
01:24:32
Speaker
my My body is like, that feels worse somehow. Yeah, than just like killing them. Yeah, which is obviously horrible. But to be like, I'm going to make you overdose so that in fact you need more care. So then I have to kick you out of this place that's giving you care so that you can go somewhere else.
Resolving the Case and Celebrating Partnership
01:24:52
Speaker
But my mom can be yeah here and fine. That feels horrible. Yeah, it's very... Intense. Yeah, very intense.
01:25:04
Speaker
But we, yeah, the boys clearly see on there a name that they know. So they've solved it. Now it's just the nut shelling. And they dance. And they dance. dance is so good. I love.
01:25:15
Speaker
I love when they dance, when they find things out. It's just like the purest expression of joy. Yes. and it And it really reminds you like they are here. They're just having a great time solving this mystery. Yes.
01:25:26
Speaker
And they just want to solve the mystery. Without a doubt. Yeah, totally. Totally. Because it's not even, they're not even dancing at the catching the person. Just solving it. We solved it. We solved it.
01:25:38
Speaker
Yeah, And I love that they hear a sound. Somebody's coming. And so they jump out of the conveniently low screenless window. like God, yeah.
01:25:48
Speaker
Yeah, I didn't even clock the screen list. You're so right. Yeah. And they just, they, they skedaddle. Yeah. Until they come back again.
01:26:01
Speaker
Yes. I guess they just really didn't want to get caught in the office. Yes. But then like any good episode, we must confront the plotter. We start our nut shelling. It's like a, what looks to be like a ah dinner comedy show for our comedian. Oh yeah. Yeah.
01:26:20
Speaker
Yeah. But it, of course, gets interrupted by sean and Gus and Henry. And I loved the whole little bit of Sean's trying to, you know, point the finger at the culprit.
01:26:35
Speaker
But people keep walking in the way. Yeah. so So he, like, points at the comedian guy and goes, it's you. And the comedian's like, me? And he's like, no, not you. Killed on stage. Yeah.
01:26:48
Speaker
When someone else... no not you either you yeah gestures a wildly like framing her body like you yes you also up is it right before that when he's like help me help me help me help me help me help me yes like part of his like wind up and then points at her Yes. yeah Yeah. It's very, fun very theatrical as always. as Oh, and I think Chelsea's like, oh, he's a psychic.
01:27:16
Speaker
Maybe he's having an episode. Yes. Yes. Yes. Maybe. Maybe he's having an episode. Yes. I, yes. She said that. And I went, what a way to phrase, like that is the way to phrase it, but I'm just so used to him calling it a vision. Yeah. Like calling it an episode makes it if feel like. It feels like an old person thing to say. Yeah. He's having a. Yeah. Yeah.
01:27:38
Speaker
Like it's something strange. It's medical. Yeah. Yeah, yeah exactly. Have a good episode. Yeah, like it's a seizure or something. like Yeah. Something convulsive. you know um But yeah, we we end up figuring out that it's or finding out that it is Meredith Cloverfield who is the woman in charge of all of their food and she has been overdosing them by putting extra blood pressure meds in their food.
01:28:08
Speaker
um But the reason for this is because she has a mother ah I wrote it down, Sunshine something. Sunshine Meadows, maybe? Meadows, yeah. Sunshine Meadows, which is anything but sunshine. And she did mention that earlier in the episode that yes her mom has cat food or whatever.
01:28:27
Speaker
Yeah, one step up from cat food. Yeah. And while this, like, meanwhile, Talmadge McGulliger is coming in. And so, like, the steaks are just, like, raising and it's so fun. And Henry's like...
01:28:38
Speaker
TM, like, we gotta hurry this up, and then TM, like, Talbot McHuliger. I just thought that. Yeah, actually, I don't know he says that, but I hope he does. amazing Yeah, and then and er Sean sees the the monogram in his shirt, and they're, like, rushing up the stairs, and Gus is like, everybody's got high blood pressure, your food might be poisoned. and Everyone. And then, what am doing?
01:29:06
Speaker
what And Sean's like, Jervis, baby, slap some cups on her.
01:29:12
Speaker
He's like, I've never done this before. And then Gus is like, it's okay, just call the police. And they run out and they all like take different exits and they meet in the front and it's so fun. It's so fun. And then I think Sean and Gus fist bump and then Henry puts his fist up in like this totally awkward way. And Sean's like, he doesn't fist bump him.
01:29:32
Speaker
Oh my gosh. It's the best. It is. Yeah. It's very fun. Very dynamic. Yes. That's a great word for it. Yeah. And it's, you know, it was so interesting because kind of similar, i don't know, maybe not similarly to the top, but we got to the end here and it really felt like the episode was just going to end.
01:29:57
Speaker
Yeah. And we always have the the like end scene where we kind of wrap everything up or something, you know, happens or whatever. um But it really felt like the episode was just going to end. And I don't know if it was because everything kind of wrapped up so nicely in a bow as it was.
01:30:13
Speaker
Yeah. Well, maybe because the other plot is so disconnected from what we're doing here. It's why are we back here? Yes, maybe that's it. Because that that is where it jumps to the police station. And then that's when we get lassie ah Jules yelling at this kid yeah to like stop being a punk.
01:30:30
Speaker
And are Sean and Gus there? Yeah. And Vic is like, thanks for your hard work on the oh yeah whatever. it gives them a check. So that is what brings them all back together. yeah But that it's all just to witness Jules.
01:30:45
Speaker
Why did she give them a check?
01:30:49
Speaker
I guess, I mean, they did solve a crime that existed. So I think after the fact, it became police case. Because they did have to arrest her and everything.
01:31:00
Speaker
Oh, okay. I was like, wait, she didn't hire that phone. Yeah, the way she words it is like, to show our gratitude. Yeah, oh, okay, okay. That that makes sense.
01:31:13
Speaker
Yeah. But yeah, so we wrap up. And what we end the end, I mean, which I love the moment for Jules, like her walking away with that smile and Vic is all proud and everybody's like looking at her like, whoa, like we, like this girl is an enigma.
Preview of the Next Episode: 'Lights, Camera, Homicidio!'
01:31:28
Speaker
Yes, totally. um But it does feel weird just because like that was such a like subplot but that's the note that we are ending it on correct and maybe that's what it is yeah it's so it's weird to end on this Jules like character development yeah when the whole episode was more centered on the case and her because we do have Jules character development episodes there's nothing wrong with that yeah it was just the structure of the episode yeah yeah
01:32:02
Speaker
but uh yeah so that's that and the next one yes what is it lights camera homicidio yes our actual like soap opera i know what i was thinking that at the beginning like that's funny that we have a soap nod right before the soap episode yeah oh which we were gonna watch a telenovela for this oh we were we have some planning to do we do okay We're going have to have do some research, figure out what would be a good one.
01:32:32
Speaker
Yes. don't know if we want to watch just like maybe an iconic episode from an iconic show. It's a good idea. Or iconic telenovela. Yes. That's a good idea. Okay. Okay. We'll do some research. Okay. And we'll let you know, listeners, what we decide. It's a very dramatic episode coming up.
01:32:48
Speaker
All of the Spanish, all of the gasps, but it's really, really fun. We're going to have dive deep into some planning. Telenovela culture. This our next Dimanche one. It's been a minute.
01:33:03
Speaker
Oh, and we get, ah is this the first time we're going to get the credits in a different language? Oh, yeah. Yes. Or not the credits, the title sequence. Oh, yes. So many things to look forward to.
01:33:17
Speaker
All right. Well, if you enjoyed hanging out with us for our, you know, hour, two hours here on this Tuesday, feel free to join us back here and next week where we'll discuss season two, episode 13 of the fame TV show.
01:33:29
Speaker
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01:33:45
Speaker
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