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Dementia | A Comedy Podcast
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One of the toughest things a family can go through is watching a loved one battle dementia. It's also something people don't talk enough about. In this episode, we discuss this illness's ins and outs and even tell some jokes along the way.
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Steam Rooms vs. Saunas: A Humorous Start
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I am a, I am a steam room kind of guy. If I have a choice, that's where I want. I want the steam room over the sauna. Oh yeah. Especially when you're bare pickle in there. Yeah. I like it. I don't think you're supposed to bring pickles into the sauna. You go bare pickle, huh? If they're pickled, you are. I wrap a towel around, but it's really short towel and my dick is really, it's like a hand towel. Yeah.
00:00:27
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He's like, Oh, I'm sorry. Can you see my dick? I apologize. It's these little towels they give us. They're like, Oh, there's regular towels over there. Sir, that's not a towel. That's a band-aid. It's actually a washcloth. And that's not a, I don't know how you got, I don't know how you got around your waist. I'm not going to lie. Cause you seem like a portly gentleman. I just wrap. Okay.
Meet the Hosts: Comedy and Comparisons
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History defeats itself as a comedy podcast. Kevin, John, and Greg are not experts, historians, or even all that smart.
00:01:06
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Hello and welcome to history defeats itself a comedy podcast that wonders, why do we never learn from our history? My name is Kevin Rosenquist. And of course, I am always joined by my two co-hosts, two men who are my Steve Martin and Martin Short, John Banks and Greg Mitchell. How are you guys? Who's who? I was good until you said that because I know how you feel about both those guys. And so now I think that John's got to be Martin Short, right?
00:01:32
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Yeah, because John's definitely not funny. And John thinks he's funny, just like Martin Short. But here's the thing. I think that John, I said that Martin Short was funny. This is all based on the pregame here, guys, for all you listeners out there. But we were talking about whether Martin Short and Steve Martin are actually truly funny or not. I find Martin Short very funny. So, John, that's a compliment for you. Thank you. Congratulations, John.
00:01:54
Speaker
Hey, I earned it. God damn it. And Greg has looked old for many, many years. So he has. He really hasn't aged in the last 20 years. Okay. He's just, well, he's just looked so unhealthy for so long on the chin. Okay. No, I can't. I don't want to touch your chin. I'm afraid I'll break your neck. Your old feeble neck. If that's good, you're gonna be sensitive about that. How's the rest of this episode going to go? Cause you're leading. So this episode is going to be about how sensitive he is.
00:02:23
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Well, it will not. It's not his topic, but that's what it's going to be about. I am the one that's supposed to reveal the topic. Oh, yeah. Not you guys. Hey, Kevin. Yes. How are you doing? I'm
Home Repairs and Hair Jokes
00:02:35
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Kevin. I had some technical difficulties tonight, but it's all good. We had we have a lot of a lot of. So I told you that we got a new window in our house and we got insurance really came through for us after a hailstorm. So we got new siding, a new roof and three new windows. So you built the system. OK. I mean, that's what they offered us. So we said, yes.
00:02:53
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Because we needed it. Yeah. OK. We built the system and come through with a toupee, did they? They were also giving me shit about my hair. Here's the thing. And I just want to be like this is I don't want to be mean here because, Kevin, I just want to say one balding guy to another. Use that product. That's all I'm saying. Like, I'm not. Well, you're not selling it with the hat. I am. You know, I mean, you look like you're going hunting after this. Well, I am going hunting after this.
In-Person Meetings: Humor vs. Reality
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Since the last time we recorded, um, I got to see John Banks, I R L and we get to hang out. And I remembered, I was reminded of just how funny he is in person. And it's so odd to me that it doesn't translate to the podcast, but maybe one day I'm going to be optimistic. Did you guys, did you guys take a road trip today?
00:03:48
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We did not. Not on Thursday, though. Oh, I thought you said you were doing that today. We were going to. And then Greg canceled. I masturbated too many times before the hand job in the car. So we decided to postpone 30 minutes in the drive. I was like, I'm tired. I can't do this anymore.
Tesla and Elon Musk: A Playful Take
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So we either got to turn around or we're going to spend 30 minutes and you're completely flaccid. I can't I can't work this anymore. Honestly, that's the fault of the operator, not the guy with the deck.
00:04:13
Speaker
You know what? I did a hands and mouth, hands and mouth and nothing worked. So I don't have my feet. I was cheering you on. It's not my full support. Well, as we talked about before, this is how you cheer. You go like this. Yeah. Yeah. Well, in Tesla's Tesla Tesla's passenger blowjob cradle, it's very comfortable. So Elon knows what he's doing. It does not surprise me that Elon put that in there for sure. For sure. OK, Greg, take it away.
Greg's Self-Centered Topic Tease
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My turn, guys. Yeah. Let me start out by addressing the listener. No. I like the way you said the. Yeah. Well, it's one listener at a time. Oh, that's not funny. Hey, listener. Go ahead and listen up.
00:05:04
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For some reason, John and Kevin think the only way to contribute comedy is to make fun of me. Oh, it's going to be about him. He's going to make this. You already started. You're the one who's like, okay. I just, I just, how many, how many fucking episodes can we do about you, Greg? Seriously. I'm your dedicated and hardworking information provider.
00:05:26
Speaker
Oh my god. You do your research two hours before the show. I'm your lighthouse in rough seas. And all you do is reference your diary. I myself would personally never go so low as to insult you dear sweet and loving listener. What are you wearing? I want to go back to the tape. What are you wearing, listener? Oh, that makes you look so slim and fit. Maybe you should slip it off so we can see why we're bodies.
00:05:51
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Did you write this part too? Yeah, I wrote this part. It's not great. Oops. Where was I? I just want to get naked with the list. Okay. I have a very uncomfortable erection. These assholes are going to say something stupid and unoriginal and Greg's topics are always so self centered, which they already said. And I wrote this. He only wants to talk about shit he knows about. Well, guess what? Fuck you both.
00:06:14
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I am what I am and I talk about subjects I find interesting. And besides, this topic is depressing. So fuck you again, John. Why me? Because you deserve John. Kevin, you only deserve one. Fuck you. I'm just over here making calls. All right, guys, the topic tonight is dementia.
Introducing Dementia with Humor
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Oh, it's gonna be a fun one. That's nice. It could be fun.
00:06:44
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Oh, is this about, is this, is this about you? I have something to tell you guys and I'm probably not going to get all the way through it because I have something to tell you guys. I have something to tell you guys. I have something to tell you guys. It's terrible.
00:07:06
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Fuck you, John. Oh, wait, OK. I do have some good bits about dementia. So bits. OK, so so dementia on the face of it, we all kind of know about it, even though I'm going to get into some interesting things that I didn't I was not aware of. We all kind of know about it. And I think probably each of us know somebody or maybe know somebody who knows somebody that's that's struggled with dementia. I myself.
00:07:32
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My father had dementia. He was diagnosed at the age of 70 and he had something called vascular dementia. And that means it was brought on by strokes. So this is really funny. So he had dementia and, you know, he was dead within six years. That part's not so much funny. And it was a really bad trajectory. And John Banks, I think, if I remember correctly, came to visit him with me at the nursing home. And it was a laugh riot. Yeah.
00:08:01
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Well, he was wasn't he getting didn't he tell you and Darren that he was getting well don't steal my thunder Okay Talk about it again, but there are some funny things that happen to him along the way it was sad but I personally I hope if I ever get dementia I Hope people that around me and love me can have fun with it Is that how you're hoping history won't defeat itself
00:08:30
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That's, well, I'll tie it in in some loosely loose. Well, fuck you, Kevin. God, you're so judgy. You earned that one. I wasn't going to fuck you, Kevin. Like Kevin, usually the enemy.
00:08:45
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Not this one. I'm just wondering how you're going to how you're going to loop it around. I mean, I'm still waiting for John to tell me how roundabouts are. Well, I actually thought about how roundabouts, how history doesn't repeat itself on a roundabout. What happens is we did repeat ourselves. I would say we were actually winning. We were actually like making better choices because depending yourself. I think the way that history way history doesn't defeat itself on a roundabout is you have to get out of it before you get to the place where you started in the roundabout.
00:09:16
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Oh, so as long as you turn off of it, that shit's meta. Fuck you, Kevin. Yeah. This is a stupid. I'm an idiot. I'm an idiot for not seeing that one. And I was going to do this episode on yellow lights. Yellow lights. Do we need the green or that? They just be yellow all the time. Let's roll the dice.
00:09:40
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Think how much money we would save, but we just had one color. That is true. You wouldn't have to change all those light bulbs all the time. That's right. Yeah, that's right. Yeah. Yeah. Two thirds of the light bulb costs gone. What happened to me last week, by the way, since we recorded that episode, I saw a guy that was up on one of those lift trucks and he was like working on one of those fucking traffic lights. They're actually huge. When I could see like a human person,
00:10:06
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Right next to it. Yeah, it's like two-thirds of the size of a normal sized body. They're four feet tall. It's big. That's big. I was quite moved by Greg's just disdain for people who cross streets. Just disdain. When I was listening to that in my car, I was like, you get them, Greg.
00:10:32
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You show some vigor. You're like, I don't know. Like this Greg guy, he's pretty amazing. He says some very poignant things. He does. You know, I was like telling myself what I should say next and then I said it. You were, you were fired up. I like when you're fired up. I stand by all that. Wait. Wait till you hear me talk about dementia, motherfucker. Okay. All right. Let's get after it.
00:10:53
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Dementia is a condition that has garnered significant attention in the field of psychology due to its debilitating effects on cognition and behavior. So not only does it affect the way you process and think things, it's going to affect your actions. As our understanding of dementia continues to evolve, it's crucial to explore its historical roots and the pivotal figures who have contributed to our current knowledge.
Dementia: Historical Context and Humor
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Did you say pivotal or biblical?
00:11:18
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Pivotal, but biblical to you. This episode will provide a comprehensive overview of the history of dementia, tracing its origins from ancient beliefs and theories through modern advancements in diagnosis and treatment. This sounds long. No, it's not that long. Okay. And hopefully, hopefully. I mean, how long was the article that you're plagiarizing this time?
00:11:40
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This one, I actually used AI to write the article, so we're in good shape. Good, good, good. So I would just like to say- It didn't work that well. I had to fucking add more shit to it. I would just like to say before you get into this, right, that my grandfather also had dementia brought on by being a piece of shit. So I'm not real sure if that's how that works, but he was definitely a piece of shit. And anyway, but he drank a lot. Let me scan the notes. He drank a lot.
00:12:07
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until he was in his fifties. And so basically they think his dementia was brought on by alcohol. Oh, that happens. Well, that dude, he drank. I think he drank. He drank either. I think it was a liter of vodka a day for. Oh, that's a lot. That's heavy. Yeah, it's heavy. Oh, there it is. Now you got something to shoot for. How much is a liter?
00:12:31
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Isn't that metric? Yeah, what are the American leaders? 750 milliliters. I apologize. So 750 milliliters is no handle handle is right. Handles one point five. Yeah. Right. So he was kind of a pussy is what you're saying. I think my toddler has dementia. He doesn't make any sense. For sure. He has a lot of weed. He does. Well, yeah.
00:12:55
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I mean, what's a lot? He smokes his body weight in weed every day. That's a lot of weed. That's a lot. He's a big kid. He's the only person on earth who can hang with Willie Nelson. And Snoop Dogg.
00:13:12
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You know Snoop Dogg actually couldn't hang my will in Elson really yeah, I watched him an interview and he was just like That guy that guy that guy gets high a lot When Snoop Dogg said you get high a lot you might have a problem Actually when Snoop Dogg judges how much you're smoking
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Okay, so dementia is a neurological disorder characterized by decline in cognitive function, including memory loss, impaired judgment, and difficulties with language and problem solving. It affects an individual's daily function and can lead to profound changes in personality behavior. The most common types of dementia include Alzheimer's disease, vascular dementia, Lewy body dementia, which I believe is what Robin Williams was diagnosed with,
00:14:03
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Frento temporal disorders and mixed dimensions. That's when you get a whole bunch of different dimensions all getting blended in your head. So congratulations. So they all cancel each other out, I'd imagine. Hopefully, yeah. While dementia is commonly associated with old age, John Banks can have it too. It does occur as a result of other conditions such as Alzheimer's disease or vascular disorders.
00:14:27
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Early historical perspectives on dementia were rooted in ancient beliefs about cognitive decline. In ancient Egypt, mental illness was attributed to supernatural causes such as a demonic possession or divine punishment. Similarly, ancient Chinese medicine viewed mental disorders as imbalances between yin and yang forces within the body. In fairness, though, hasn't been disproven.
00:14:56
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you know it's a it's a very good point but it has because subsequently is they've done after you've died they've looked at your brain post-mortem and they've noticed the damage so you can't say it doesn't have anything to do with yin and yang though because a brain kind of does look like a yin and yang mm-hmm
00:15:19
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Damn, that's like the left and the right hemispheres. It's where they connect. That's the Corpus Colosseum. And where they connect looks like the yin and yang. Man, I love when you talk dirty. Me too. I need more ice for my cocktail. Sometimes that's when I hold up. Maybe you should order it. Maybe it worked well last time with Genmates. That was the most depressing episode I ever listened to because my fucking cocktail never arrived. Yeah. Genmates. Genmates was not a good.
00:15:46
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a good delivery. I don't believe one star because taxes was very depressing. But both on the topic talking about the taxes episode, it just just brings everything down. Oh, it's the whole concept of taxes is depressing. So I don't think I don't think he could win.
00:16:03
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Hippocratty's of the Hippocratic oath. Hippocratty's. Hippo. Are you John Banks in this? Yeah, I am John Banks-ing it. So yeah, fuck you. It's not easy, is it? Words are not easy. Are they good? I actually unlike John Banks, I am going to not throw my life away and grow a long beard and live in the fucking and wander the globe looking for hair termers. I'm just going to move on.
00:16:34
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Do you want us to tell you how it's pronounced? I was. Hippocratic. Hippo. Hippo. Saurus. I was. I was. By the way, on my journey, I was not looking for beard trimmers. I was looking for opium. So good move. You were looking for dens. Chase that dragon, John. He held it. Now you're back home. Sleep that dragon. OK, Kevin, go.
00:17:03
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But, go, you wanted to say it. Say it. Hippocrates? That's what I wanted to say. I love the way he's a dick to you about getting you to say the thing that he can't fucking read. Hippocrates. What are you fucking reading, you piece of shit? Thank you, I really appreciate it because I didn't know how to say it. Well, it's not like I haven't. He has good buddies with this guy named SoCrates.
00:17:32
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Dude, one was a doctor, one was a philosopher, and... And Aristotleicities. Aristotle. John Banks. This is a special day for you. It is. It is. Just let him have it. Let him have it. I think it's great. You don't get to just miss this. No!
00:17:51
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keep on reading fuckhead this is my revenge this is my moment this is revenge porn john's jerking off to my fucking i mean i'm not jerking off but i am rock hard because you want it to last huh yeah this is called edging so all right sting here we go
00:18:18
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Hippocrates, both fame, regarded as the father, you try it with vodka. I can't see straight. I got it as the father of medicine. This is gonna be fun when I get on the treadmill later. Regarded as the father of medicine made significant contributions to our understanding of dementia during the fifth century.
00:18:42
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He classified mental disorders into categories based on their symptoms and believed that they originated from imbalances within bodily fluids known as humors. Although his classification system was not specific to dementia alone, but encompassed various mental disorders believed at the time. It laid the foundation for future investigations into cognitive decline.
Hippocrates and Mispronunciations
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So he's kind of on the right track where he knew something was actually wrong with the body. But as they determined, it wasn't, it wasn't either. It was a metachlorine.
00:19:17
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It was, that's a Star Wars reference for you, Star Wars nerds. You're welcome. Cause I'm one of you. Don't don't know the reference. Obviously you are. I didn't know what I enjoy. Star Wars. Don't know that reference. Metachlorine. I enjoy the bad acting in Star Wars. Metachlorine is basically if you have a high level of metachlorine that's associated with you being strong in the force. God, you guys are embarrassing me. We are. Is that what charges your lightsaber at night?
00:19:45
Speaker
Is that a USB-C? No, actually they're still on A prongs. They're on Apple A prongs. Didn't you hate that year, that one year when they fucking went from the lightsaber seven and they changed the input for the charger?
00:20:04
Speaker
Well, so that was frustrating. I bought all these cables and then it didn't work anymore. I was looking at the iPhone 15 or whatever today. I was just looking like online and one of the things, you know, because they did a little ad and they're just like, now you can use it. Now the iPhone 15 has USB C so you can charge it with your laptop and your blah, blah, blah. And I'm just like, yeah, you could do that 10 years ago when you motherfuckers didn't change it every year. But each device, they're like, oh, we're going to, okay, we're getting rid of USC. We're getting rid of the A prong on this thing, but we're going to keep it on this thing for another four years.
00:20:34
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That's why you just don't get Apple products. I know, but I'm already in, I'm in. They did a good job. Yeah, I'm too deep. Have you guys seen that meme where they're talking about like, um, for your, for your television viewing, someone's going to figure out a way to combine all the different apps all into one and basically create cable TV.
00:21:02
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It's fucking dicks. Okay, go ahead, go ahead. The Renaissance period witnessed significant advancements in the understanding of dementia. Paracelsus, a Swiss physician and alchemist, challenged traditional beliefs about supernatural causes by proposing that brain abnormalities could be responsible for mental disorders. His groundbreaking work paved the way for a more scientific approach to studying dementia. Did they burn him for being a witch?
00:21:28
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Absolutely. They burned him for being cheese and they. I feel like if you got burned in like the 15th, 16th, 17th century. That's how I write. Well, that's how we know you were doing like you were smart and you were a scientist. Yeah. Yeah.
00:21:46
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Cuz the church burned your ass. Yeah, they did Cuz the I like the ideal that it's yeah that we're What do you mean this? What do you mean the earth goes around the Sun or Sun doesn't go around the earth and you're dead sounds like we got a burn your motherfucker
00:22:03
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Burn. And I don't mean burn like what a party I'm going to bear to you. I mean, I'm going to set you on fire. You'll scream going to set you on fire in a blaze. It's going to be a very pretty party. Yeah. Yeah. Don't you think scientists would have figured out they should just keep the information to themselves? It would say on their aloe vera budget. I don't think they came back from those burnings. Oh, they didn't. Wait a minute. This is more than a third degree.
00:22:31
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That explains why my grandparents never came back. I don't have a lot of after sun. Did you just say, did you just make a really, really, really bad joke? Nazi German World War II joke. Wow. You guys don't need to spell it out. Halloween. Wow. Alzheimer's contributions during the late 19th and early 20th centuries revolutionized our understanding of dementia.
Facing Alzheimer's: Fear and Reality
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I think you probably heard the name before, go. Oh man, Alzheimer's scares the shit out of me. It scares the shit out of me from the sense of if I get it or if my wife gets it or my parents, oh my God, it scares the shit out of me. I wouldn't like it if my wife got it, but I wouldn't like it a lot more if I got it. Well, I don't think you'd care if you got it, right? No, that's not true. You don't care. Not as much.
00:23:23
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People that get Alzheimer's are stricken with anxiety and frustration. What happens? Yeah, they're very frustrated and they're coming in and out of like lucidity. And it's, that's the thing I want. I want to be senile. You want to be a little like fart in public. I just want to be actually, you know what? It'd be more fun to pretend you're senile.
00:23:45
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Good point. That'd be a lot more fun. I want to, I already fart in public, so I don't understand why would that, how would it benefit me? It's like your compliments to the chef. Yeah. I definitely want to be able to live in a nursing home, but under my own terms, like you get to stay in bed all day. You get to wear a diaper so you can shit your pants. Someone changes you. And then you pretty much get whatever drug you want whenever you want it. And you can watch like Jeopardy all the time.
00:24:13
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Is it really that's your life goal? I think so. I think it's attainable, Greg. I mean, I don't see why you can't do it now. Yeah. What are you waiting for, man? I think it's super expensive. Well, here's the thing. Are you like tied into having a shelter above you? Cause you could just go straight street and you're, you're in, you're done. It's harder to get drugs that way. I want someone to administer it and I'm not really, I don't think it's that hard to get drugs that way. I'm not going to trust the people that change my diapers on the street.
00:24:41
Speaker
They're going to go for a little yank and tug and I want that. Maybe that's maybe you'll enjoy it. I don't think you're going to get a lot of action at the nursing home. You're definitely going to get more on the street. Paul Newman over there, buddy. Okay. So I'm going to tell you what my dad said when he went into assisted care. So he, my brother and I came to visit him once and he was having a rough time and he was really upset and we asked him what was wrong.
00:25:09
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And he said, you guys are not going to believe this shit. But in the middle of the night, the staff that works here, the orderlies come into your room and they suck your dick. And he was dead serious. Like he really thought that was coming. So first of all, I don't blame him or judge him. He thought he was coming. Yeah. Well, I don't blame him or judge him because he thought that was happening because he was in a state of mental illness. I don't blame him either. I blame him for being upset about it. Yeah. Like what the fuck, man?
00:25:38
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We assured him that there was no way that was happening for free because that would have been, that would have been really expensive. There's like an extra, there's like BJ on the, on the Medicare, on the nursing bill every, every month. Yeah. You do not have enough in your account for us to come with us and we're not going to do it. All right. You keep telling you this. I told him, you think people are trying to apply for a job to work in this nursing home? That's not happening.
00:26:07
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And why is this bad? Like why even if you're hallucinating it, why are you upset about it? Did you say that to him? Yes. What did he say? He was like, are you kidding me? They're sucking my I'm a married man and they're sucking my dick.
00:26:25
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So I mean, he was he was married. Yeah, I mean, I get that. Yeah. Well, you know, that's respectful. He had a mustache for like 50 years and they shaved it off. And as far as I'm concerned, if you've got a mustache for 50 years and they shave it off, all bets are off when it comes to when I.
00:26:42
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when it comes to monogamy. That's how they measure it in court and divorces. They're like, wait a minute, did you shave off your mustache? I did. Okay, he's good. Yeah, he's not. He doesn't have no alimony, no nothing. He could totally get away with blowjobs. This man no longer has accountability for anything. You go out in the world, mustacheless man. It sounds like I'm making fun of my dad, I'm not. You look two and a half years younger.
00:27:12
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Yeah. You were from 77 to 75. It's just go live, man. Just go live. I got to tell you what's kind of weird when I went to go visit him and his mustache was gone. I would imagine. Who are you? What'd you do with my eye? I think I cried when his mustache was gone. My dad has had a mustache for as long as I can remember. I've only seen him without a mustache and pictures. And so, yeah, I can understand. That would be really weird. That'd be really weird. So how much did he charge for mustache rides?
00:27:39
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Nickel? No. Hey, Greg, seriously, the first one's for you. And then you just don't go back. That's how they suck you in. Yeah, they start with the, they start with the bogo and then you get, after that. And then you're addicted. You gotta get a group on. You know, you should get a t-shirt of your dad's face with his mustache.
00:28:02
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And it says, mustache rides. Can we do that for our t-shirts and then go to a convention? My dad's face. No, with the words free mustache. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. First one's free. I'm not fucking letting people take advantage of the system.
00:28:23
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My generosity only goes so far. It only goes one. Is this going to be like a side hustle for the hand job business? Go mustache ride? It is. Okay, let's get back to Allie Alzheimer's. In his seminal case study, he described a patient with severe memory loss and cognitive decline who exhibited distinct features upon autopsy, such as neurofibrillary tangles and plaques. You got to be fucking chittin' me.
00:28:52
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That's what happened. You were asking before fucking how they knew it wasn't made up or whatever. This led to the identification of what is now known as Alzheimer's disease. One of the most common. I didn't say I didn't know that was made up. Stop talking while I'm talking, you fuck. One of the most common forms of dementia to constantly interrupt. Craig is very rude. You shouldn't do. You really do. And how would you like it? He wouldn't like it at all.
00:29:19
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I even finished the question. How would you like it? How would you like it, Kevin? Debilitating disease. Disease is named after you. After you, Kevin. Would you like things to be called the Kevin Hart? Oh, wait, that's not your name. No, it would be his name. Like the Kevin fucking Hart made of stone. Oh, that's right. You're cold. Kevin, you have something to say? Kevin. Yes. Yes. No, I don't have anything to say. You raised your hand.
00:29:47
Speaker
I didn't raise my hand. I saw it on the screen. Didn't raise my hand. All right, guys, I just had an itch. The development of diagnostic diagnostic criteria for dementia has undergone. Yes, I'm absolutely loving this like you. You're like it's going to be a prerequisite that he has to drink vodka in every every episode now just for just so John can have validation. I'm kind of loaded.
00:30:17
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You know what? And fuck you guys for thinking, I can't spell. Maybe I'm just drunk. You ever consider that? That's me. Yeah. No, I can't. I'm having a hard time getting these words out. I can't spell. I can't read or I can't read.
00:30:31
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I got a lot to get through, guys. The development of diagnostic. It's going to be short. You did say that. You guys heard about the DS manual, the mental disorders? Yep. Well, they started putting shit in there about Alzheimer's in 1980. OK. 1980? That seems late. That seems late to me. OK. In 1980, the DS
00:30:54
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I'm sorry, the DSM-3 introduced a specific criteria for diagnosing different types of dementia based on observable symptoms and cognitive deficits. Since then, subsequent additions have refined these criteria to incorporate advances in research and clinical practice. So guys, throughout history, treatment approaches for individuals with dementia have varied widely.
Ancient Remedies: Fact or Fiction?
00:31:17
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Ancient civilizations used herbs, oils, and rituals to alleviate symptoms like blowjobs.
00:31:24
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as medical knowledge advanced. I didn't know that was an herb. Well, that's how his dad knew that he was getting blowjobs, because they started sucking his dick and his memory came back. Fuck. You just put my brain in his pretzel. He's like, why does it smell like rosemary around here? What are you doing sucking my dick? You're sucking my dick with herbs? Why am I so mad? Mr. Mitchell, you're supposed to pronounce the H in herbs. Herbs. Herb is sucking you eventually.
00:32:01
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we only hire men named Herb and they're cocksuckers
00:32:11
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Oh man, this is not okay. Dad, I love it. It's definitely not okay. I'll put one out for you later. So yeah, I like, uh, yeah, go on. I don't think we can air this episode. I'll say that like, so I, I actually, one of my, um, so my, my granddad went through it. My granddad went through it and that was bad. And my dad, I think my dad is in the beginning of it. Um, cause he's doing like things that my granddad did, which was he would,
00:32:39
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So he's really close to getting blow jobs. So close. He's so close. Here's the thing about my dad. He's not going to be mad about that. Just out of curiosity, what kind of things are you noticing in your dad? So he'll do this thing. And also, can I ask how old your dad is? My dad is, no, you can't. That's none of your fucking business.
00:32:56
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He's very sensitive. Close your eyes. Greg, he's 77. Oh, that's not bad. He's 77. And that's when my granddad started too. He started around like 75, 76. But he does a thing where he'll tell me a story and we'll be on the phone for like an hour. And he'll tell me a story like something that happened to him at the beginning of the conversation. And then at the end of the conversation. Does he have a natural story arc?
00:33:25
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Does he start with characters and they get more complex? My father is a very good storyteller. He can't he can't read or writ. So the oral is all he's got. So the oral, the oral is always. Yeah, he's like an old traveling. What are those guys called? That used to tell a story from from town to town. No, I know what you're talking about. I don't know. I know what you're talking about. Like a balladeer.
00:33:49
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I know John's carrying on the tradition because he goes downtown looking for opium. Well, he's trying to tell a story, but you keep interrupting him. Yeah, whatever. Well, you know, just like John's dad, he's got to be challenged to make sure that he gets his facts straight. But what he'll do is he'll tell me the story and then we'll talk for 15 minutes. And then he'll tell me the story that he told me at the beginning.
00:34:12
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Forget that he told me, which I think that's part of just aging. You forget you tell people stuff. I do that. Right. So I just think that's part of aging. But then he will tell me the story exactly like word for word like he told it in the beginning. So in the same conversation, in the same conversation that I think is the alarming part. Yeah. I mean, my my parents tell me the same stories constantly. Greg told the same story in this episode that he told the different episode. Yeah. We tell the same stories all that we do. I was doing it.
00:34:40
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Yeah, I don't know about that, but it's I think the same conversation that's that's Kevin's balding out. Definitely a lot of things, you know, and then and then like like you got quite the head of hair over there, buddy. I do, actually. At least you at least you got that hair helmet to hang your hat on. Literally, it's getting very, it's getting dark right now, man. It's getting mean. It's getting mean. I'm just waiting for one guy to wish
Personal Stories: Humor and Emotion
00:35:13
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And also, I think it's like crazy because like so another thing I know from memory loss is so so there's a right now a really good friend of mine, her dad.
00:35:23
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Is like and someone that I grew up with and they were like her parents like my second parents I like they were just like I love them the siblings and they were amazing And anyway, but but their dad is going through that and and one of the like he recently saw a picture of me And my well my dad my dad had a beard like this When he was around my age and so her dad remembers what my dad looked like so he saw a picture of me and goes Oh, there's Daron
00:35:47
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Right. Because that's the other thing, too, is like because you lose short. And that's John's dad's name. Yeah. I think the context clues gave that one away. Thanks, Greg. Yeah, I just wanted to color it in for people that might be struggling. You're going to go, what is that word? That's not a real word anyway. And so like like he like so I think that's just like another fascinating thing about memory loss where it's like you lose short. You lose your immediate short term memory, but you can remember how someone looked
00:36:15
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30 years ago in their children. It's crazy because my granddad was the same way. I'm more serious. John gets the quieter. He gets, you know, do I get quieter? I'm sorry. I'm not trying to, you know, you know what I think is I don't. So my mom has been repeating herself since as long as I can remember. But the problem, the thing that I think if you're someone who, who repeats stories, if someone says, oh yeah, you told me that don't tell it still stop talking.
00:36:43
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Like my mom just tells this whole story again. Yeah. Well, it's almost like they have to finish it. I know, but it's like it, but it's not a short story. No, it's like, no, no. You've told me this like numerous times. Yeah. So anyway, so there's arts and decades between these character arts.
00:37:03
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Yeah, that is interesting. But it's funny, like I'll try to summarize, like if I, because everybody does it right. Like you, especially with your partner, like, I mean, Sheena and I, like, I'll, I'll be like, she'll be like, Oh yeah, you told me that. But if it's part of the conversation, I'll be like, yeah. And then you jump to the end and you go, so, so this happened. And then, then you bounce into the next part, but you don't tell the whole goddamn story again. No, because you're normal. Oh, that's the nicest thing you've ever said to me.
00:37:27
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I love you, Kevin. Thank you, Greg. So my dad is doing his thing, so we'll talk on the phone, and he'll tell me his story, and he'll tell me something at the beginning of the story. Mm-hmm.
00:37:37
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No, I was gonna let you go. So the funny thing about dementia is that your long-term memory can really stay intact, but your short-term memory doesn't, which explains why you can repeat the same story in a conversation, a single conversation. And every detail is remembered perfectly because it involves your long-term memory. You don't remember the fact that you just fucking said it. Yeah. Yeah.
00:38:00
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Why is that? Do you have data on that? Like, why do people remember long term better than short term? Are you asking Greg to explain human brain? I actually know the answer. Well, he did the research. So I mean, so there's two different parts of your brain. Okay.
00:38:18
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I was actually a psychology major that didn't do any benefit for me at all. And we did study the brain. So there's different parts of your brain that are responsible for long-term than short-term memory. So one of them stays intact and then one gets fucking fried. And I'm starting to wish that my long-term and short-term memory are fucked up and I didn't remember John Banks at all. Oh, that is okay. I wish I remembered you as someone that I liked. No, no, no, that's too far.
00:38:48
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I would rather lose some of the long term memory stuff because, you know, I remember some shitty stuff and like the weed only kills the short term memory. I still remember everything bad that's happened to me in my life. Like starting this podcast or how about continuing the podcast? Not stopping the podcast tonight. Tonight's not a great. Obviously we're married. Obviously all three of us. Obviously what? We're masochist. We are.
00:39:17
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That means we're wearing masks with kites. As medical knowledge advance, treatment shifted towards pharmacological
00:39:31
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Kevin? No, I don't think that's right. Pharmacological interventions aimed at managing specific symptoms or slowing disease progression. Today, non-pharmacological interventions such as cognitive stimulation therapy and person-centered care are gaining recognition as effective strategies in enhancing quality of life for those living with dementia.
00:39:58
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What was this? What care? What did you say? I couldn't understand person centered care or cognitive stimulation. Oh, really? Really? Yeah. Was that like lobotomy? No. Oh, no. That's cognitive fracture therapy, I think.
00:40:18
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Can you, can you, can you just, it involves, it involves engaging individuals through various activities, targeting memory recall and problem solving abilities. So basically kind of kind of practicing remembering almost. Uh, yeah, I guess that's, that's accurate. It's, you know, they say that like your brain is like a muscle. So you're kind of just working it out, I guess. And you're hoping to kind of build it back up.
00:40:47
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It's a slippery slope though, because as of now, once you're in decline, the best that drugs have been able to do and any kind of therapy able to do, um, has been to slow it down, not, not to, no one has been able to regain what has been lost. Yeah. That's again, reverse it. So here's a question for you being that you've done all this research, um,
00:41:10
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That sounds condescending, but still ahead. It does, and why is he so quiet again? I don't know, am I quiet? I didn't realize I was quiet. That's weird when you tell me he's quiet, he gets louder. I didn't realize I was quiet! Sorry to everybody who was listening. Pretend you're an ACDC.
00:41:30
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Uh, so do you, from your historical records that you've looked into, uh, do you, do you think that the amount of people having dementia has increased based off of what you read or do they think it's about the same?
Environmental Causes and Historical Insights
00:41:47
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So are you, are you asking me if more people have dementia? Because I read, I just wanted to say that's a great question, John. Yeah. Is it getting worse?
00:41:59
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In other words, the population has grown, so I think it stayed the same per capita. What was your reason for asking that, John? I'll give you stats. I'll give you stats. He's probably alluding to the poison that we call food. I was just thinking industrial revolution overall, right?
00:42:22
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expose ourselves like in the last 200 years we've exposed ourselves to more chemicals and metals and you know all these things that we didn't do before there was you know i mean for years there was lead in our air because we put lead in gas right i mean so you know it's bad it's bad for you so i was just kind of curious if like the amount of like heavy metals and toxins that we bring in would have increased problems in the brain because it would make sense right you would and you're right i mean greg brought up food and
00:42:51
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You know, beauty care products, deodorants, like weed, you know, the amount of alcohol and weed. Well, those are natural, though. Yeah. Jamison goes on. Yeah, it's there's like the Jamison River, right? That's what I always thought. It was how I thought it worked. I went to the course orchard and I picked some course cans. It's exactly what you can put it in salad.
00:43:22
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All right. Well, the next thing I'm going to say, uh, there's some words that have letters that they just don't make any sense with the order that they're in. So it's going to sound funny. And I tried to read them when I was sober and I couldn't do it then. Fox trot. Tango Charlie. Here we go. Drug categories like chole in stare. Yes. Inhibitors.
00:43:49
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donna poselle are commonly used to enhance colora nugeric neurotransmission and improved cognition and Alzheimer's disease patients. Do you know why? Do you know why I trust doctors? Cause they can pronounce those words. I feel like if you can learn those words, you're smart enough to tell me what's wrong. They make them, they make them needlessly complicated to make themselves seem smart. I mean, it works. I'm very impressed.
00:44:17
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And obviously it didn't work for me. No, no, you're an idiot. No one thinks you're smart. I'm a fucking idiot, but it hasn't, but did we answer John's question? Did it, has it gotten worse or not? Not that you could tell. Hang on a second. I'm going to get to that. Oh wow. I didn't know I was a lead in so boring. So boring. Mementine is another medication approved for moderate to severe Alzheimer's disease. It works by regulating glutamate activity in the brain.
00:44:44
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However, these medications can only provide modest benefits and do not alter the course of the disease. In July of this year, 2023, the U.S. Food and Drug Administration granted traditional approval to the Alzheimer's drug Laconum. I heard about this. Laconum, Ab. Laconum. No, no, no, Greg. Laconum. No, I actually did hear about this. Known by the brand name Lakembe. Lakembe?
00:45:13
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After an accelerated approval was issued earlier this year. So today's action is the first verification that a drug targeting the underlying disease process of Alzheimer's disease has shown clinical benefit in this devastating disease. Teresa Barachoio said, and she literally used the word disease three times in one sentence. So this quote's not great.
00:45:37
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She's the acting director of the Office of Neuroscience in the FDA's Center for Drug Evaluation and Research. And she should, no, do not use the word disease three times in one sentence, but she did anyway. She's way smarter than John and Kevin. The Kimbie from Drugmakers, I say, and Biogen is the first medication that's been shown to slow the progression of Alzheimer's disease, including declines in memory and thinking by targeting disease underlying biology. So there is some hope out there.
00:46:06
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If you're struggling, the key to that particular drug is you have to take it when you're on early onset of diagnosis. If you're too far along, you're fucked.
00:46:17
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So I think that we should, because this is such a, yeah, because this is so common, because I'm sure we all know, like I know a lot of people that I'm related to and also outside of people I'm related to that have- You're talking quietly again. Do what? You're talking quietly again. He's right. He's right. All of a sudden you just stop- Do I really? I'm so sorry. I don't know. Your mic is pointed kind of high. Is that it maybe? I don't know.
00:46:40
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Maybe start speaking through your nose. I mean, I don't think I can do that, but I'll try. He did say I took an edible. That could be part of it. Maybe. I thought Kevin took the edible. I don't even know what I was saying. I have not taken an edible. Oh yeah, that's right. John was going to exercise, but he took an edible. What was I saying? I don't know. You were talking about people that you know and like the levels are so high and you were droning again. Yeah. Yeah. I don't remember where I was going with it. Let's keep going.
00:47:06
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Okay, here's some key facts about dementia and this hopefully answers the questions that Kevin had Currently more than 55 million people have dementia worldwide over 60% Okay
00:47:25
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that that
00:47:44
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Because the truth is is like the quality of life you have is absolutely terrible Right and you basically you slowly die and and it's just it's so sad like people have to go through that so it's like if I Knowingly now sign something saying that when I am you know Whatever age and I start losing my memory that you can use medicines that have been through maybe not like some sort of trial But it's like can be
00:48:09
Speaker
If it kills me, okay, it kills me, right? But what if it is the thing that saves, like, like, like breakthroughs? I think there are medical trials that you can sign up for all the time. You're kind of saying, like, you want to sign up to be a bit of a guinea pig before you aren't able to make that decision. Right. As long as I have the faculty to say that I'm willing to do that, if I lose the faculty to do that, then why not?
00:48:29
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I'm saying John should be used as a guinea pig right now. I mean, well, right now there's obviously it's so long for him to explain what he was trying to say. I ate guinea pig in Peru and I am patient zero for John Dydus. So it's a good point. Yes. All these things are true. I also ate guinea pig in Peru, Kevin. It's delicious yet bony. It's good, though. It's disgusting. Well, mine was rain.
00:48:57
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Mine was at a it was just part of a dish. I don't I didn't get it on a stick. Did you do the stick thing? I didn't do it. I was part of this as well. Yeah. Yeah. Hey, when you guys have to mention five years, it's because I'm going to bring this one back. I got to say, honestly, Greg, I forgot you were there. I thought it was me and Kevin. I kind of feel the same way. You guys are either high or you hate me. No, I don't understand why it can't be both.
00:49:27
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Hmm. Yeah. All right, guys, here's some key facts. Currently more than 55 million people have dementia worldwide, over 60% of whom live in low and middle class income countries. Every year there are nearly 10 million new cases. Dementia results from a variety interrupt. Yes. So you're saying that it, it, it disproportionately affects lower income people.
00:49:53
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lower income countries, lower income countries. Okay. Hmm. Hmm. But it's not that disproportionate because it's 60%. Okay. Yeah. It was like 70, 80%. Like I'd give you that, but 60%, I mean, while it's high, it could be, it could be a just lack of resources and lack of education, but it's not like treatment is effective.
00:50:17
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The only thing that could potentially be effective is if you're eating right and exercising and doing things that could potentially
00:50:26
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keep it at bay. But once you've got it, it seems like... Yeah. And I mean, Alzheimer's, they've proven that that kind of stuff doesn't necessarily prevent Alzheimer's either. Like just being active, eating well, keeping your brain sharp and all that stuff doesn't necessarily keep you from... And honestly, maybe 60% of the population live in low and middle class countries or middle income countries. So maybe it's unfortunate. I don't fucking know.
00:50:54
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I definitely don't. Dementia results from right here in the 1% like we are. We just don't know this stuff, you know? No, we don't need to get in the Mercedes and get the Del Taco. I was in my Toyota Corolla, but I'm going to go to Del Taco. So I got to go home and get the Mercedes.
00:51:19
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I know you don't understand, but it's a power move. I get it. Okay, guys. Dementia results from a variety of diseases and injuries that affect the brain. I can't hear you Kevin. The most common form of dementia may contribute to 60 to 70% of cases.
Economic Burden of Dementia
00:51:38
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Dementia is currently the seventh leading cause of death.
00:51:42
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and one of the major causes of disability and dependency among older people globally. In 2019, dementia cost economies globally, $1.3 trillion, approximately 50% of these costs are attributable to care provided by informal caregivers.
00:52:00
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like family members and friends who provide an average of five hours of care and supervision per day. Yeah. Well, I mean, if you think about it, they probably need more than that. Um, someone that has dementia probably needs around the clock care.
00:52:17
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Like they have a bright you have to watch cuz I didn't make my granddad he kept sneaking out I mean he wants to sneak it out like he had dementia so he would like walk out the door and Then be walking and think he was 18 years old and like trying to like go back You know to his house when he was 18 and doesn't live there, you know So it's like and it doesn't know who he's trying to go chicks He tried to get into the DeLorean and go 88 miles. Oh
00:52:42
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I thought that was funny. Sorry. That's good. Current reference again. Always good at those. So my dad, my dad did something similar when he was put into a memory care ward. He shattered his bedroom window and fucking took off. That's pretty cool. We weren't, we weren't super happy with the place because
00:53:05
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It just so happened that the nurse that worked at that place happened to be driving down the street and she's like, Oh, that's Greg's dad walking down the street. Do you think that's what she said? Yes. Very calmly. Yes. You are very memorable, Greg. I did not want to identify him by name. I get it.
00:53:25
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All right, guys, let's keep going because we're almost we're almost. Oh, thank God. Women are disproportionately. I'm on any of this episode. I'm on page five of nine. Women are disproportionately affected by dementia. I didn't know that. I didn't know that directly. And two thirds, two full two thirds percentage of dementia cases are women. I did not know that at all. That's interesting. Yeah. OK, so things that increase your risk of dementia include age 65 or older and it kind of goes up and up up.
00:53:54
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high blood pressure, high blood sugar, being overweight or obese, smoking, drinking too much alcohol, pretend we didn't see that, being physically inactive, being socially isolated, depression. God damn, I am fucked. Yes, this is not going to go well for me. Early signs and symptoms of dementia are this, Kevin can't figure out how to re-plug in his setup for recording the podcast.
00:54:19
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That is true. And also, I would like to say, if we all get dementia, we should keep doing this. Absolutely. We should definitely keep doing this podcast because it will get way better. It will. It will. It's not going to get worse. Early signs and symptoms are forgetting things or recent events. What about wearing an ugly button up shirt? Is that a symptom?
00:54:41
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Of course it is. All right. Well, then you lost when walking or driving, being confused, even in familiar places, losing track of time, difficulty solving problems or making decisions. What is time? Good question. I like where you're going. Problems following conversations or trouble finding words. Ooh, that's been me this episode. Difficulties performing familiar tasks and the judging distances between objects visually.
00:55:07
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Common changes in mood and behavior include feeling anxious, sad, or angry about memory loss, personality changes, inappropriate behavior, withdrawal from work or social activities, being less interested in other people's emotions. So that was like, that's when we knew my dad had issues is because he completely withdrew and he was, he got downright mean and
00:55:33
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I think it's because he was living in the heightened state of agitation and irritation. It was confused about what was happening to him and not, I think this is really important. When you're diagnosed with dementia, cause he saw a specialist, they did a brain MRI.
00:55:50
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And the doctor gave my brother and I and my mom the results before he presented it to my dad. And he said, yeah, his, his brain is severely impacted by dementia. He's had a series of strokes. We can see it on the scan and we're going to tell him. If I had, did you know about all the strokes he had? Does that curiosity? Uh, no, not. So if I could take it all back, I don't think we ever should have told him.
00:56:16
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And I don't know that it's important to tell the person that has dementia, they have dementia until they're so kind of far gone that you kind of need to so they don't hurt themselves and they can be placed into a proper caring facility because as soon as, as soon as the doctor showed him his brain MRI and told him he had dementia, the entire fight that my dad was putting up to try and deny it vanished and his, he went downhill super, super fast.
00:56:45
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But is there, but what is, what is the alternative to like, to have everybody around you realize that you're, you're losing it and you don't like that. And then you find out later, that's kind of embarrassing. No, I think that would have kept him a little bit more lucid, a little longer, but I don't, I don't think he kind of gave up a little bit. So I think for sure he gave up. It's almost like when you tell people that they have cancer, that they have cancer, some people,
00:57:11
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fight it and some people give in and I'm not judging anything that people do when they receive bad news. And you have every right to treat whatever is happening in your own body the way you decide to. I don't think there's a right or wrong about that.
00:57:26
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It's just we could see we could see a rapid decline in his ability right as soon as he found out But do you think that's like a coincidence where maybe that was gonna happen anyway? I knew you were gonna ask that asshole question I'm joking
00:57:46
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I even did one of these. He did. He did. He did become that emoji. And he's been doing a lot of his chin exercises, so he's got a good strong grab on that chin, so he looks super inquisitive.
00:57:57
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It could have been a coincidence, but I doubt it because it was such a marked decline. It was so rapid. But I don't know. My granddad, you could definitely know there was problems and then it went from there was problems to almost gone.
00:58:19
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Right like like it really like once it goes it goes super fast and i'm not saying you're wrong Like you can totally like what you're saying could totally be true. I'm not i'm just making a counterpoint. That's all
00:58:29
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No, and I appreciate it. I was just giving a little shit about being a dick. I just think you're a dick in general. So I assume that's where it came from. I mean, that is that is very fair. I just mostly I just don't like you as a person. And I've learned to live with that. You don't seem to because you get really snippy about it. That's just me being me. That's just not a star. I'm just snippy. It's our dynamic.
00:58:56
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OK, I have one last thing to touch on and then we'll get to our our final call or last call. What do we call that? Oh, my God. Here we go. This is the final destination. This is a coming out episode. I might. And this is I do not care for the way I'm being treated.
00:59:17
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Can I tell a story about my granddad? Please. Oh, God. Please, John Banks, tell a story. I don't think you want me to. I do. Go. So my aunts and uncle actually took care of my granddad and my grandmother. And so they were taking care of my grandmother and she was fine. And then they were taking care of my granddad as he was in this memory loss. And so
00:59:38
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He he got down to and I forgot why he only had one tooth left. That's important for the story. And so my aunt, who was taking care of him, he never ended up a nursing home. She took care of him to the well, maybe like the final days, right? Like hospice kind of thing. Yeah. But like she took care of that that man until the end, her and her husband. And so kudos to them.
01:00:03
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Um, and so they, so anyway, so she was taking him to like a doctor's appointment and for whatever reason, he didn't recognize her at this point or like he was so far gone, but he decided she was a threat. So he bit her with the one tooth and it was like, apparently like a really sharp tooth and she was in a lot of pain. So she's the only thing you do is she got out of the car and she had to call the police and the police came and kind of settled down and they got him home. Right. But I was just thinking like, it's like really fascinating because this person, she was somebody who took care of him.
01:00:32
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Every day, right? It was her daughter or his daughter and every day and he like he finally just lost the ability to recognize her Right, but she's just kind of it's anyway just a weird. It's a terrible. It's a terrible. Did you want to bring us down? I'm uplifting topic and you're going to bring us down. No, you didn't have a very uplifting topic and but that's one of the things that I say all the time or I said earlier about about how how Alzheimer's terrifies me because like can you imagine like, you know your wife or partner or looking at you and
01:01:01
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Not knowing who you are. That's an awful, awful plot. Yeah. Yeah. You know, I think for both people, right? Like to like disappear like that is terrible for the person and for the person who's experiencing with them. It's terrible. Yeah. I'm I'm I have said this never before, but I'm going to start saying this like I would so much rather get hit by a bus now than after I do that. So well, the advantage we have is that we've recorded all these episodes. So like.
01:01:26
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You know, we can always reference who we are as people. Oh, that's true. Note, note yourself. But everyone should just partner. Get a job driving a bus.
01:01:38
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And I'm going to thank you. I will thank you. I know what my side hustle is going to be. We're both going to be happy. Like you're you're in the like public transportation class and like, why are you here? You're like, I want to kill John Banks. And they're going to be like, there's a lot of people here sitting there. I don't want to kill John Banks. I want to make his dreams come true. Thank you. Oh, wow. Well, you really have a friend. Unfortunately, they're going to put you on the school system and on the short bus and it's going to be very awkward.
01:02:08
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Alright guys, so the final point I wanted to talk about was the caregivers.
01:02:13
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because caregivers are well known to suffer when you're caring for dementia.
Caregiving Challenges and Dedication
01:02:18
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It's the hardest kind of caregiving you can do. It's exhausting. People with Alzheimer's disease and related dementias are usually cared for by family members or friends. The majority, 80% of people with Alzheimer's disease and related dementias are receiving care in their homes. Each year, more than 16 million Americans provide more than 17 billion hours of unpaid care for family and friends with Alzheimer's disease
01:02:43
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and related dementias. In 2019, these caregivers will provide an estimated 18.5 billion hours of care. Approximately two thirds of dementia caregivers are women. So two thirds of the sufferers of dementia are women and two thirds of the caregivers are women. Men, we're not pulling our weight. We got to get those numbers up. All right. We got to get dementia, guys. Yep. We got to do it. About one in three caregivers
01:03:09
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is age 65 or older and approximately one quarter of dementia caregivers are a sandwich generation, which means basically you're taking care of an elderly family member with dementia and you also are taking care of your children who need your care as well. So you can see how exhausting that is. Caregivers of people with Alzheimer's and... I can relate to that. I've got a toddler and I take care of you both.
01:03:31
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And it's difficult for you to get it. It is not easy. I mean, you also take care of my kids. I, Kevin, I just pissed myself again. So you got to come change me up on that plane. Greg wrapped this up. I got to get on a flight. Kevin, Kevin, I just beat on John. Oh my God. He thinks he did it. I paid him $37 to do it. There's so many different things happening here. It made sense.
01:03:58
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when we worked at the financials. All right. If I get on a flight and I get there and like, you know, well, we'll travel and all that stuff, like five, six hours, can you promise not to pee on each other again? Nope. No, I've been drinking all night. I'm in my peak peeing on John Howard.
01:04:21
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Just book your flight for tomorrow. Okay. Okay. I'll be done by then. Bring a mop and some spray like disinfectant. I don't think I could fit that in my area. We'll stop all the way here. All right guys, caregivers of people with Alzheimer's and related dimensions provide care for a longer duration than caregivers of people with other types of conditions.
01:04:48
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Well over half, 57% of family caregivers of people with Alzheimer's and related dementias provide care for four years or more. More than 6 in 10 Alzheimer's caregivers expect to continue having care responsibilities for at least the next five years. So it's just, it's a lot of fucking work. Demands of caregiving can limit a caregiver's ability to take care of themselves.
01:05:09
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Family caregivers of people with Alzheimer's and dementia are a greater risk for anxiety, depression, and poor quality of life than caregivers of people for any other condition.
Conclusion: The Importance of Support
01:05:23
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So that's Alzheimer's or dementia, or whatever the fuck you call it. It's not great, and Kevin's probably gonna get it first. So how does history defeat itself?
01:05:38
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Here we go to the last call. Oh, we're doing last call. Yeah. And I'm going to talk about that in the last call. Oh, well, because he did. You kind of forced him to in his episode, Kevin, John. Yeah. You see how he does that like a smart ass? Like I didn't think about how to tie it in. Well, I but you see how that a lot of times you don't. All right. Well, last call. Let's go. Drink if you got it. Cheers. Cheers.
01:06:08
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Let's hope that as individuals, we do not defeat ourselves in the worst way possible. There are a lot of horrible ways to leave the planet, but not much seems scarier or more panic inducing than the confusion and frustration that accompanies dementia. Let's toast all those in the fight from the caretakers, friends, and family of the afflicted to those with the disease themselves.
01:06:35
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I already did my shot, though. I know. Well, we did the shot at the wrong time. Well said, Gregory. Well said. Well said. Much love to you out there, people. Yeah. Hey, did I get to did I get too drunk? Is that the TV signing off? Yeah, it was. That's old school. We need to like a cut off. We need to know God bless America.