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Rocket Man’s Dark Side: Wernher von Braun | History Defeats Itself Comedy Podcast

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Today we're talking about Wernher von Braun, a Nazi who was recruited by NASA after World War 2 to help develop the space program.   

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Humorous Banter and Political Satire

00:00:00
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Well it's good to see you gentlemen. Anyway I don't know if you've noticed but I've gotten really fucking muscular. No. No you haven't. I don't see the muscle. I see fat. No you don't. Fuck you fat. I see fat too. Is it just me or is it not really flexing? Yeah. It's just sort of sitting there. Yeah. It's like a Peter Griffith arm. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's not as much like a, like a caca. Caca. It's more like a sad.
00:00:28
Speaker
Now that just looks like fat jiggling. What sound does a slug make? Guys, breaking news. Fuck you and you and you and you and you. I don't think that's breaking. It's breaking my heart. Oh.
00:00:50
Speaker
History Defeats Itself is a comedy podcast. Kevin, John, and Greg are not experts, historians, or even all that smart. I'm using all my good jokes now on the pre-show. Let's get in the fucking game. We're doing it. Welcome to History Defeats Itself. My name is Kevin Rosenquist. I am here with my glorious co-hosts, John Banks and Greg Mitchell. How are you guys?
00:01:21
Speaker
drunk. Are you really? No. Oh, but bust. Just bust. Well, I just I want to talk about politics if we can. We're gonna get a Joe Biden and then after Joe Biden, we're gonna talk about Trump and after Trump, we're gonna talk about FDR. And he's a new up and comer. And I think he's gonna do big things. FDR. Okay.
00:01:39
Speaker
Franklin Delano Roosevelt. I think you mean NPR. Neuro something, something national radio, the Kennedy. It's the he's isn't he doing it. Isn't he going to be an independent or opportunity junior? Yeah. Yeah. I think he's losing steam like he picked fucking that quarterback guy. That's crazy. Aaron Rodgers for

Dark Comedy on Nazi Influence

00:02:02
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his talks about it.
00:02:07
Speaker
Uh, anyway, welcome to history of pizza itself. Wait, did we talk about that? What's that? Did we talk about that better and Rogers? I don't think so. Yeah. I mean, I think it's holy. I read that it was Aaron riders and somebody else. There were a woman. I think there were two people that he had on his shortlist for running mates and one of them was Aaron Rogers. And I don't know. They're they would be great together. They're both insane, but it kind of sucks that he's married to Cheryl Heinz from curb and she's married to a whack job.
00:02:43
Speaker
I don't think it's fair to call him a whack job. I think you're a very judgy person. He's got tough competition. Like of the field, like if it's, if it's him or Trump, I'm going to RFK. Right? Yeah, but it's still not.
00:03:00
Speaker
It's a... You guys are living in the past when things made sense. Things don't make sense anymore. I almost said it's a tallest midget kind of thing, but we're not supposed to say that. It's very not okay. It's very not okay.
00:03:11
Speaker
It's the shortest tall guy contest. You can never offend a tall guy. That's true. That's true. I'm a tall guy, so I know. How's the weather up there? Thank you for joining us today.
00:03:35
Speaker
Do you mind not having your balls on top of my head? Excuse me, tall guy, could you get your nuts out of my face? Please, get your nuts out of my face. You're not that short.
00:03:46
Speaker
Get your nuts out of my face. Get what I always get on my knees when I see you. That's

Introducing 'History Defeats Itself'

00:03:52
Speaker
true. That's true. And as you should, as your, as your overlord, as a guy who likes getting blow jobs from people, you should always get on your knees. As your overlord and the guy who likes getting blow jobs. And you know tall guy nuts gotta be huge. I think they're probably pretty average. I don't know. I don't know. They're proportionate. If you're tall, you definitely have a bigger cock and balls.
00:04:16
Speaker
Yeah, I'm gonna say Kevin's average Like I don't like Kevin's anything. I mean I feel I'm very comfortable with my manhood I saw his manhood when he was wearing sweats the other As did everyone who was watching it on YouTube. Yeah, and I do apologize for that.

Operation Paperclip: Impact and Ethics

00:04:32
Speaker
I didn't realize how Out in the open they were. How penis my pants were
00:04:39
Speaker
Yeah, it was funny because like when you were making the jokes and all that, and then when I was going back editing it and I was like, oh my. You can really see my dick. This episode is called Kevin's dick for no other reason than you can see his dick. Inexplicably, see his dick. Doesn't make any sense, but yeah, so.
00:05:00
Speaker
Anyway, it is John's turn to lead the crew tonight. Thank you all for being here. Thank you two for being here. I'm always happy to see you, John. I would love to know what the topic is of this episode that you chose about an hour and a half ago. Well, you know how we let me interrupt and say I don't really care what the topic is. It's a real 50 50 kind of crowd tonight. So you know how we don't talk about Nazis enough?
00:05:30
Speaker
Nope. Well, never. I feel like we don't talk about Nazis enough. So actually, I was. We've changed our ways, though. They used to come up a lot more. So remember, it was all Nazis and systemic racism. Did you do this episode on Nazis and you said it was going to be the shortest episode ever? Well, there's just not a lot on them and they didn't really make an impact on the world. No. So I recently have been
00:05:53
Speaker
going to meetings about Nazis watching, you know, just watching humanity. And I read this book, mine, mine. I can't remember what it's called. It's called something about companies. Yeah. Minecuff. I don't mind cap. I don't remember Minecraft Minecraft. No, I was like, I was thinking of.
00:06:12
Speaker
Um, which is all this shit that's going on in the world, right? Uh, I was, I was like, you know, we have this belief of everything is black and white, right? Or not that we have a belief, but humans want to live in a world where it's really going to be a pro Nazi episode. It's not, it's not going to be a pro Nazi episode.
00:06:29
Speaker
Just hear me out. Listen, it's just 13 steps. We're going to have a perfect society. Sure, some people are going to die. But listen, it's about utopia. No, I was I was I just been thinking a lot about this lately because everything's going the world. And then so and I knew that lately, like the last 35 minutes when you started doing your research.
00:06:52
Speaker
Well, no, no, no, like this is what finally I was like, oh, this is what I'll do it on and so Like I knew there was something called operation paperclip that I learned about in high school That was basically where the US government brought over a bunch of Nazi scientists that worked on the space program right and so then this episode is about this one guy and NASA and kind of how it's
00:07:17
Speaker
a real gray area like I'm definitely sure like he did some he didn't do horrible shit but he certainly watched horrible shit go on and so anyway let's strap in and get ready for a little nazi talk here on history defeats itself and no please no i nazis are bad so nobody's like i'm gonna need a drink for this i'm gonna leave no no it's it's good it's good um because basically you're saying is it it kind of fucks with your moral compass
00:07:44
Speaker
Yeah, because of like everything that, and there's so much shit that we have because of NASA, like so much shit we use in our daily life that I have no idea. And I think that, and that's kind of the cool part. And we're just going to get through this Nazi guy and then we'll get to the fun stuff. Nice. Yeah.
00:08:00
Speaker
That's what they said. That's what they said in 1939. We're just going to get through this Nazi guy and then we're going to have fun. Yeah. Well, in doing my 27 minutes of research, I did find that I guess apparently a lot of former Nazis, they actually made fun of Hitler like in private.
00:08:22
Speaker
because where you're not going to get killed. Yeah, exactly. Exactly. All right. But he had enough people supporting him openly where the threat of being killed was real. Well, and that's the thing is it was actually the minority. Right. And that's and it's like kind of like it's you don't need a majority of crazy people. You have a minority of people who are willing to do atrocities in the name of one person, then you can get you can get the majority in line.
00:08:48
Speaker
So, but that's not, that's not what people are threatened with like toe the line or death. They're going to choose to tell the line. Yeah, man. But then the ironic thing about that though, is that if the masses had just been like, no, fuck you. We're not doing this. They could have overtaken the bad people. Yep. That's easier said than done. Yeah.
00:09:09
Speaker
And the short in the short term you've been working out you've been telling your guns Oh, I would have fucked up some Nazis I would have been like right you've got all that like like yeah creatine and powders and whatever else you're taking all Natural you're doing cryotherapy and ice baths and saw I am I'm doing all those things but play right ice baths in a sauna It's just me and Wim Hof
00:09:37
Speaker
He turns the ice on and I turn the heat on and then we get into a big argument. Then you battle it out. Yeah. Werner von Braun.
00:09:46
Speaker
Now if that doesn't sound like a Nazi, I don't know what does. That guy is a Nazi no matter what. Sorry for anyone listening who might be named Werner van Braun. I'm sorry. Werner van Braun. Werner van Braun. Let me see your papers. We will ask the questions. All right. Born on March 13th, 1912 in

Nazi Influence on Technology

00:10:06
Speaker
Warsaw, Germany, now Warsaw, Poland.
00:10:11
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became fascinated with space exploration and rocketry at a very young age. Didn't rocketry. What age? Seven. Wire. Name is 12. Wire. Yeah, I don't know. I'm just I'm just telling you what I'm just telling you what I'm reading right now in real time.
00:10:33
Speaker
Everybody's learning at the same time. Okay. I should have time to go over it once. He joined the German? Do what? This episode is making my head itch.
00:10:43
Speaker
No, that's just lice. That could be Rogaine too. It's just thinking about Nazis. Yeah, that could be Rogaine. Yeah, yeah. Or hair lice. Or hair loss. Or lice. Or lice. What if you have bald lice on your head? The lice would just run around like, this is a barren wasteland. What is going on?
00:11:07
Speaker
They're like start drilling into your skull to see if they can find hair. We are on the wrong head. I mean there's like across the desert there seems to be a force on the side there but do you think do you think do you think lies have like a flat head society?
00:11:25
Speaker
I like it. That's good. That's a good one. Yeah. That's what you want people to do when you make a joke is say that's a good one. Not laugh. Don't laugh. That's not the best when you, when you tell a joke and someone's like, that's funny. Yeah. You're like, Oh, you're funny. I thought it was going to be, but
00:11:42
Speaker
You are a pretty funny guy. Thank you. He joined the German Rocket Society, the the veteran for the Roman Shifat in 1930. And you're going to yell everything in German. It's not right. It's still right. It does. God, there's so many so many words I don't know. This is I'm going to this is going to be a tough one for me. This is going to be kind of it kind of proves that you're not a Nazi if you don't know the words. So that's.
00:12:12
Speaker
Good job. Yeah. If you pronounce, if you couldn't pronounce Massachusetts and every single one of these you nailed, we'd be a little worried about you. Yep. This is how I'm discovered. I'm outed because I can pronounce German words. There's going to be Germans listening to this going, man, this fucking guy. Garbage. Um, I joined that at 19. I don't know how big we are in Germany. I don't. Uh, we have 37 people in Germany. Okay. All right. Well, we apologize to all 37 of you.
00:12:41
Speaker
Uh, he started working on liquid fueled rockets in 1930. So, which at that time, I don't know anything about rockets. That's a surprise that I don't know anything about rockets. You do, you do usually know things about rockets. You do know, you do know some random facts. I do know random facts. And I worked at JPL to help building the Hubble telescope. So, Oh, nice. Nice. What do you think? Are you really good at trivia?
00:13:10
Speaker
Like, like, do you ever do the bar trivia? I'm really, I'm really good at it. I'm better than he is. I don't believe you. I think that John would be a really good asset. No, as long as there's nothing about sports, John's a total piece of shit, but that is going to be very narrow. You know, he says things like he knows what he's talking about, but they're completely made up. Have you ever played bar trivia with John?
00:13:35
Speaker
No, because I don't want to socialize with John. How the fuck do you know if he's good at it or not? Because I think he's, I just know in general, he just is a piece of shit when it comes to knowing things that make, that are somewhere in the popular cultures like this.
00:13:49
Speaker
I feel like you have some very strong hatred towards me. I also feel like Greg is very quick to be like, wow, John, that's really insightful on this show. A lot of times you just say that. Yeah. So just in case nobody's clear, I'm in an emotionally abusive relationship with Greg. With Greg, who is very orange today. He is very orange. He's very Trumpy.
00:14:12
Speaker
He's very chump. Trumpy Trump dude. I was at a George. George, what was that guy's name? Straight. No. Foreman. No. Lucas. Oh, that's a good one. The guy that was tan, the actor, George Hamilton. Oh, Hamilton Hamilton. Yeah. I was at George Hamilton. You know why? Because that's fucking trivia night, motherfucker.
00:14:32
Speaker
That's true. He did win that one. He got us there. All right. That was $100 question. You didn't say in the form of a question. Who is George Hamilton? Yeah, he was a tan dude. He received his PhD in physics from the University of Berlin in 1934, where he researched rocket technology. PhD in rocket technology.
00:15:00
Speaker
So would you say you heard alert? Would you say he's a rocket scientist? I would say he's a rocket scientist. It sounds like a rocket scientist. He was a rocket scientist when it mattered. Now, before it got before it got cool, you know, he was he was. Yeah, I think he made it pretty political. Along with his fellow Nazis, not in 1934. He did in 1944 when he came over to the US.
00:15:22
Speaker
Yeah, but those 10 years in between, not great. No. Um, von Braun was an opportunist who joined the Nazi party to continue his work on rockets for Nazi Germany. He applied for membership in the party on November 12th, 1937. And this is something I didn't know. And maybe you guys knew this, but I guess apparently Nazis love numbers because they issued a membership number of 5,738,692. So he was the. Yeah.
00:15:51
Speaker
over almost the six million person to join the Nazi party. Was that did they inflate that? Did they start at like one million just to like make it look more impressive? How many I guess everybody in Germany probably eventually joined the Nazi party so they didn't get to Nazi.
00:16:06
Speaker
So they could get not dead. Yeah. I am. I'm still leaning towards fuck this guy. Fuck the, yeah, no, again, it's like, you know, he definitely, I mean, who knows, right? But he, there was evidence this guy, because there was like towards the end of the war, when they started running, they started using people in the death camps, our concentration camps, they started using them for labor.
00:16:33
Speaker
And one of the places he worked at, they definitely, there was about 20,000 people who died at that particular place. And so he was there when it was going on.

Ethical Implications of Nazi Scientific Knowledge

00:16:42
Speaker
And apparently, you know, I don't think he's trying to stop it. So. As someone who's really into psychology, Greg, our resident psychology major, I mean, you know, you could, I'm not, I'm not justifying any Nazi behavior, but when you're in that,
00:16:55
Speaker
And it's your way of survival. And it's all you know. I mean, like you can make some sort of argument that you can understand how people get brainwashed. Did you want me to comment on that? Well, you know what I mean? Like, I mean, it's a how to think about it. You could make you could understand. Don't you know, don't you know that hindsight is 20, 20? And we have the fucking power of looking back on them and judging them.
00:17:24
Speaker
Yes. Yes. Yes. But I think it's difficult. I mean, obviously, people were doing everything they possibly could to survive to save their lives. Yeah. And if you're pushing people into ovens, like, yeah, you suck. But at the same time, it's like, I don't know. We can't. It's hard to judge someone like this who's in the science world and just wants to be
00:17:46
Speaker
wants to help the Nazis rocket succeed. But or does he want to be on the forefront of the technology that he is so enamored with and so he's looking for any way that he can to make it happen again.
00:18:01
Speaker
I am not defending Nazis. And this is definitely not going to be a clip that I'm going to use. But, uh, you know, I'm just saying like, you can kind of, you can kind of understand how somebody is just like, especially when they're laser focused on technology and, and aerospace and things like that, that you're just like, yeah, I'll join that. Cause that'll, that'll help my career or that'll help some people get blinded by that a little bit. I mean, look at Dr. Robert Oppenheimer, right? For example, uh,
00:18:32
Speaker
I mean, I get it, dude. People want to save their own skin. And I'm not saying it's right. I'm just saying, you know, it's hard when you're, when you, unless you're in that situation, you fear for your life, you feel for fear for your family's life, you know, how you would react to that. But speaking of, did you guys like Oppenheimer?
00:18:52
Speaker
I read a review of it that said it's amazing that it was an amazing movie that covered the most interesting parts of his life and also some of the most boring monotonous parts of his life. I was like, oh, that's a good, like, I definitely think that movie could have been like an hour shorter.
00:19:09
Speaker
Well, I was way too long. I agree with you. But you know, it's even was even way too longer, which isn't proper English. But I'm going to say it anyway.

Critique of Historical Films

00:19:16
Speaker
Killers of the Flower Moon. You could have cut an hour out of that movie. I haven't watched it yet. Easily could have cut an hour out of that movie. I haven't seen either of those movies.
00:19:25
Speaker
Oppenheimer, I highly recommend. I think it was a great movie. I really liked it. But Killers of the Flower Moon is good. But Jesus, it's fucking long. And it's there's like there's parts where you're like, I don't know why this is in here. Like what Scorsese hire an editor, for God's sake. And I think that's it. I think he's like so renowned and he probably probably does it. I'm sure he has an editor, but it's like nobody's going to say, oh, well, we could cut this or cut that because he has a vision. Right. And he's like, oh, that's his vision. And he's so awesome. So there's no way it can be wrong. But it's kind of like
00:19:55
Speaker
Yeah. Look how long the Irishman. Yeah. And that movie does four hours, wasn't it? I mean, I guess that movie. I don't. I think that movie works just fine, though. I love that. Yeah. Because you can stop it and go do stuff. Well, yeah, that's the thing. That's the thing. It's like in the streaming mentality. Yeah. Does it does a three and a half hour movie matter? Probably not because we watch shows that are 12 episodes long an hour, hour an episode. Right. Right. But.
00:20:23
Speaker
If you're going to a theater or something. Oh my God. Hey, your legs are going to fall asleep. Oh my gosh. No, even with the comfy chairs or I'm just going to fall asleep. Right.
00:20:32
Speaker
But getting back around, like, yeah, I think that's kind of when I was doing my very best research. I was thinking the same thing, Greg, where it's like, right, because he was a Nazi in Nazi Germany. But I'll say this, I think I've said this before. When I lived in Echo Park, I had a neighbor who was a Nazi. He was literally a Nazi. He was like 80 something years old. And when Berlin was being, after they started losing ground, Hitler had already died.
00:20:57
Speaker
or killed himself and they were like going to towards Berlin, the Allied forces, you know, they were just grabbing everybody like kids. And so at the time he was like nine or 10 years, maybe 11 years old. And they basically were just like, you're a Nazi. And they gave him a gun. You know, so it was like he didn't have a choice, but technically he was a Nazi. Right. He got one. I guess he got a Nazi number.
00:21:19
Speaker
Yeah, there were people that were groomed to be Nazis at a very young age. Yeah, and they had like, basically they had like Boy Scouts. I forget what it was called, but they had like a whole Boy Scout program that was basically just like, teach your kid to be a Nazi. And I do think it was Hitler Youth. Yeah, thank you. That's what it was. But I feel like...
00:21:39
Speaker
you know, if you want to, if you want anyone to be okay with anything, you just get them when they're young and teach them that it's right. Right. Right. And then, and then you do lose because, you know, by the time you're, you know, 25, you're fully developed and you, so if, if you are indoctrinated from the time you're born into something by the time you're 25, then you're going to believe that that is okay. It's okay to kill whoever because they're whatever. Well, it's like racism too is like just, just racism against black people, you know, people who are,
00:22:07
Speaker
her 25 and racist, you're like, how the hell does that even happen? Well, when your parents are or your father or your mother or somebody is horribly racist and they teach you that black people are not full human beings, then it makes it a lot easier for someone to read the Constitution. You're like a person. OK, which seems like we should have just cut that. Like we should not only should we be able to amend, we should also be able to edit.
00:22:32
Speaker
Yeah. Oh, for sure. We should be able to edit. Let's just take that out. It's like we changed it. Let's take it out. Right. And we'll believe in the history books. That's we were shitty at this time. But let's pull that out. Yeah, we've learned so much. Let's change the shit. Just like. Yeah. Yeah. Anyway. So during World War Two.

Judging History with Modern Ethics

00:22:56
Speaker
He was a member of the Nazi Party. He was an SS officer who led the development of the V-2 rocket for Germany, the world's first long range guided ballistic missile.
00:23:06
Speaker
I didn't actually know that it was a guided ballistic missile. I knew what the V2 was. I knew the name. I guess I didn't know what it was because I just read that thing. I was just like, I don't know what it was. So now I'm just talking out of both sides of my mouth. 2020. 2024? No, no, no, no. I don't want even 2024.
00:23:26
Speaker
So you know at the beginning of every episode it's introduced by Sheena and she says we're just idiots and we don't know shit what we're talking about. That's that's why that's why. Yeah. Yeah. That's OK. We could say it right now. We don't know what the fuck we're talking about. So in an interview when Von Braun in 1952, he was asked basically about his association with the Nazi Party.
00:23:51
Speaker
He said that he had been so influenced by the early Nazi promise of release from the post-world one economic effects that his patriotic feelings had increased. He admitted that at the time he, quote, fared relatively rather well under totalitarianism. Well, as a white man.
00:24:12
Speaker
Well, yeah, as a white German, white German man. Yeah. Yeah. So he's basically saying, yeah, it worked for him. Yeah. Good job, Nazi. Yeah. Good job. Good job being a Nazi.
00:24:27
Speaker
If you guys ever, and I think I brought this up on the show before, but there is a documentary, it was on Amazon prime called an impossible piece. I don't know if I've ever talked about that in the show, but it is just a documentary about the time between world war one and world war two. And it's a global, it talks about the whole, the whole.
00:24:46
Speaker
you know, every the whole the whole world. Right. And it's very well worth a watch because I learned a lot of things I didn't I didn't know about like how we got and I'm not just talking about Nazis, but but how we got to World War Two, because it almost seemed like, holy shit, we just had this freaking crazy ass war. And how do hell do we get to the second one? It's very interesting. It was really it was just it was World War One, two point zero.
00:25:10
Speaker
Cause it was, it was part of it. A big part of it was what you're just said, John, is that, is that the bringing them bringing Germany out of the, I mean, they got hit hard after world war one. Yeah. Yeah. Because of the idea was to be punitive to them. So they'll basically show the world, don't ever do this again. Yeah. They wanted to punish the shit out of them. Like crazy. It totally backfired. Yeah. It's well worth the watch. Do you think history defeated itself?
00:25:36
Speaker
Uh, you know what, maybe better than any other example that we could ever talk about. And we all have not read a lot about the, uh, Napoleonic wars of 18. I don't know the year. I just did. I talked about that last episode, right? Yeah. It was like 18. I don't remember 18 something like that. It was, I will say this like every time it was definitely a lot more recent than I think of it.
00:25:59
Speaker
You know who does know about the Napoleonic Wars? Napoleonic Wars is Joaquin Phoenix. He does. Did you guys see? I don't want to get out of a movie thing. Did you see Napoleon? I didn't watch it. No, I don't like I don't like bioepics or I just I don't like it's just you don't.
00:26:16
Speaker
That's not your that's not up your alley. That's not at my alley. Well, you know, what's hard about them, too, is that like there's way too much to cover in a movie. Yeah. Yeah. John really likes likes movies more like Rocky and Rambo. That's no that's that's also way too highbrow for me. I really like like where the where the where the where the Redfern Girls in the Cup. I get where the Redfern Girls in the Cup. Yeah. Yeah. I.
00:26:44
Speaker
The first Rocky, though, is a great. It is. It is. Yeah. Even though the first boxing scenes are horrible. Yeah. Because no matter. But no one blocks. They just go. That's OK. That's OK. It's a movie. So I just watched.
00:27:02
Speaker
The Postman. Did you remember that movie with Kevin Costner? Oh my gosh. Speaking of Kevin Costner. Yeah. I had it on while I was doing shit, right? I didn't sit down and watch it, but I just kind of had it on. Sometimes I'll do that. I'm tired of podcasts and shit. I was throwing a movie I've seen and just kind of let it go. I'm so tired of podcasts, honestly. Especially the ones with three white guys.
00:27:21
Speaker
Oh, my God. How many of those are there? Apparently, when one of them is real white, then he's like the others. And there's another one who is like orange as fuck. Yeah. Very good. The third guy has this random beard that doesn't stop, you know. Yeah, I know. I hate those podcasts. Yeah. But I will say it like the fight. I like that one. That's a good podcast. There's a there's like a fight scene towards the end between Kevin Koster and the guy who plays the villain.
00:27:48
Speaker
and it is they're literally just rolling around on the ground and they're like doing these shots and it's just dramatic music but you're just like you like and it's a pretty big budget movie and you're like could you not just hire somebody to teach you how to fight like my favorite part of that movie
00:28:04
Speaker
I've never seen it. It's a fact that Tom Petty is in the movie. Yeah, he is. And Tom Petty is just Tom Petty. Yeah. Like it's Tom Petty after the apocalypse. Yeah. Basically. It's pretty, it's pretty good. It's like they didn't even try to make a character out of him. He's just Tom Petty. This is what Tom would do.
00:28:25
Speaker
And it's definitely like very like formulaic, right? Yeah, I

Would Progress Exist Without Nazis?

00:28:30
Speaker
would get like that like age and that kind of movie sure, you know, it's just like it's like There's a guy and he's a loner and then he's gets captured and he's forced to do this thing and then that like turns him to the man he's gonna become to you know lead it's just like
00:28:45
Speaker
He's gotta have a love interest. Oh my god. And it was not Tom Petty. Although that would have been a more interesting movie. That actually would have made the movie something I would watch. Just out of curiosity. Tom Petty walks the countryside going, hey, do you have a guitar? Mine broke. In the apocalypse. We burned it. Does anyone have a guitar? And then he'd get to Kevin's house and he'd be like,
00:29:13
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So it's a post-apocalyptic movie. I don't even know. Yeah. Kevin, I think you have a guitar behind you. And it's and it's like one of those poker. It's like, oh, you're talking about me. Yeah. He would come up to Kevin. Oh, yeah. Well, you said Kevin. I thought you make no, no, no, no. I met you because the guitar writer. Oh, yeah. I've got a guitar back. We can give it to Tom Petty. I got a Kevin Costner. Yeah. Yeah. OK. Yeah. I've got to just tie it up. Oh, you're not supposed to see that. Oh, shit. OK. We're not doing video for this episode.
00:29:44
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I don't think anyone's going to be mad at you if you've got Kevin Costner tied up behind you. Especially not his wife. Well, he's he's big. He's got big again. He's got Yellowstone going. Anyway, John, continue. I like so many. Yeah, like we really got to stop with the movie. No, I'd love to hear more about you singing the praises of a Nazi. Go ahead. I'm not singing the praises of a Nazi. It feels like it. Well, boy, you're going to hate this next sentence.
00:30:18
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Later examination of von Braun's background conducted by the FBI suggests that his background check file contained no derogatory information pertaining to his involvement in the party, but was found that he had numerous letters and accommodations for outstanding performance of duties during this time working under the Nazi party. Overall FBI conclusions point to von Braun's involvement in the Nazi party to be purely for the advancement of his academic career or out of fear of imprisonment or execution.
00:30:54
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I feel like he was a good Nazi. Well, I mean, I feel like because, you know, they brought like the and I don't know the number, but they brought up the United States government along with everybody. Everybody was trying to grab up the Nazi scientists after World War Two because they all were like, you know, it was like the nuclear race was starting arms. All that stuff was starting. So they wanted very smart people. And so every country was every world pirate at that time was trying to get as many as it could. The Russians did it.
00:31:12
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Sure. Yeah. I mean, but I feel like... Go ahead. Go ahead.
00:31:20
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Great Britain did it. Everybody was doing it, right? But I feel like, yeah, I feel like it's great, John. Do it. Doesn't make it right. No, no, doesn't make it right. That's what I'm saying is I feel like it's one of those things where, you know, it's like we, like you're talking about, like we look back on it and you're just like, how the fuck could they do that? But also if they hadn't have done that.
00:31:38
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Like if we hadn't done that as a country and then other countries had, then we would have fallen behind in the arms race, right? And again, it's not justifying what we did, and there's no way to know how the world would have turned out if we hadn't, but it certainly would be different, right? And maybe it'd be different, maybe it'd be a lot better, and maybe it'd be a lot worse.
00:31:57
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And the only way to know that is build a time machine, go back, see what happens, and then compare the two. Yeah. Compare and contrast. Yeah. Yeah. But the problem is nobody will know, nobody will believe us in the timeline that we traveled through time. It's a problem with time travel. It's a Catch-22, if you will. Yeah. Wasn't there time travel in that book Catch-22?
00:32:21
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Was it? What was the? I don't remember. I think I read that, but in high school, I think I read it to you one night. Oh, that's how I remember it. Yeah. Was that so romantic? Was that what that was? And I was stroking his hair off.
00:32:36
Speaker
Were you stroking it down to give him more bangs or stroking it back to give him less bangs? Were you hoping to try to eliminate the five head? It was just a little love. Did you have like a little tanner on your hand? So like every time you go across his face, it gets a little bit more like less white. Yeah, but it was very streaky at the end, so it didn't really work. That was the jizz. Wait, too far. No, what did you say? Did I fart?
00:33:08
Speaker
No, no, he said the jizz. He said it was the jizz that was straight down my forehead. Oh, too far. See what I mean? I'm not hearing things. Yeah. Is your, does your jizz have tanning properties to it as tanning? It would make sense considering how orange you are right now. Yeah. I just eat a lot of carrots. Cause every little sperm's got little, it's a little orange with like a little, what color in balloons hair, green, little green, little green hair. Yeah. These purple, just a single hair.
00:33:38
Speaker
I can't control how orange I am, okay? Well, I think you could.

Evolving Perceptions of History

00:33:42
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Yeah, I think it's probably a setting. Anyway, continue, John. Let's talk about Nazis. MAGA. He's on the MAGA setting. The MAGA setting. It's a new filter. Get it with your gold shoes, with your American flag. Oh my God, that's awesome.
00:34:00
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Von Braun joined the SS horseback riding school on November 1st, I'm sorry, on 1st, November, 1933, as an SS on water, on what, on the water, whatever that is. He left the following year and in 1940, Von Braun joined the SS and was given the rank of Utterstungführer in the, in the, in the Allagameine SS.
00:34:27
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and issued membership number 185068. In 1947, he gave the U.S. War Department this explanation. You guys ready?
00:34:38
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In spring 1940, one SS standard Fuhrer, which will be a Colonel, Mueller, from Gretz Wald looked me up in my office and told me that Reichsfuhrer, SS Himmler, had sent him with the order to urge me to join the SS. I told him I was so busy with my rocket work that I had no time to spare for any political activity.
00:35:04
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He then told me that the SS would cost me no time at all. I would be awarded the rank of Untersteinführer, lieutenant, and it was a very definite desire of Hamelin that I attend his invitation to join. Realizing that the matter was of highly political significance for the relation between the SS and the army, I called immediately on my military superior, Dr. Dornberger, who informed me that the SS had for a long time been trying to get their
00:35:33
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quote, finger in the pie, end quote, of the rocket work. I asked him what to do. He replied on the spot that if I wanted to continue our mutual work, I had no alternative but to join.
00:35:46
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So true or not. It sounds like a really good way to rationalize now rising up through the ranks and being an SS guy. Yeah. Well, and I'm curious, right? Because you have the SS and then and then like so was the album like this other part of the SS was that like a different division? Not again. Did you say Al Michaels? No, it's Al. Al. Al Menger. I don't fucking know how to say it. You know me. I can't say Massachusetts. So. Massachusetts, Massachusetts.
00:36:15
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Yeah, I mean it could definitely be, I mean, because he told, presumably he told the FBI that after he had left, after World War II was over and he was in the United States, right? Oh, those are the things. I feel like the FBI probably, you know, they probably like looked into all these people pretty shallow and like, you know, probably interviewed them and whatever they said, they're like, okay, that sounds good because they wanted them for the space program.
00:36:38
Speaker
because they went up to the program. So they were like, well, you probably had no choice. And then, you know, like, yeah, I'm sure there was some leading going on there as well. And he's like, no, I killed people. Like, no, no, no, no, no, no. I wanted a lot of people. They're like, no, no, no, no, no. You you had to do this. You were science first. Yeah. Always. No, I like the killing. No, no, no, no. Science first. They called me Auschwitz von Braun. So like, yes, I was definitely into it.
00:37:06
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After the war, he and many members of his engineering team were brought to the United States under Operation Paperclip, a secret program to recruit German scientists for American research. In the United States, von Braun became a pivotal figure in the development of the US space program. He led the team that developed the Saturn V rocket, which enabled NASA to send astronauts to the moon during the Apollo missions.
00:37:29
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Despite his controversial past, von Braun is often celebrated for his contributions to space exploration and science. So, have you guys—have you guys watched, um, uh, From Mankind on Apple TV? It's a— I don't have Apple TV. Oh, God, you're such a loser. Greg, are you a loser?
00:37:45
Speaker
I'm a loser. I did not watch it. I do have Apple TV, but I try to spend my free time living my life instead of sitting in front of a fucking screen. I don't understand. Oh, my God. That was the most pretentious thing I've ever heard. Yeah, it's total bullshit. And I'm sitting in front of two screens right now.
00:38:04
Speaker
Completely full of shit. I'm doing this podcast while I'm watching TV. So right Well that that so that's it's pretty cool because basically do you know what it's about? Do you know the concept of it? Mm-hmm? So it's so please tell us it's it's the it's Apple TV It's a plug. So let's hopefully they're gonna pay us this episode sponsor
00:38:24
Speaker
For all mankind.

Learning from Historical Mistakes

00:38:25
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Netflix. Not on Apple TV. But it's like basically if Russia would have got to the moon first and how that changes the space race. So it's cool. And they take some stuff as real, but there's a character. There's basically this guy is in that. Oh, so it's a drama. It's not a documentary. No, no, it's a drama. It's a drama. Oh, gotcha. Okay. Yeah, because Russia did not get to the moon first, Kevin. But I thought it was a documentary on if they did.
00:38:51
Speaker
Oh, so the in the movie, they get to they get their first. It's a it's a series. It's a it's a. Oh, in the series, Russia gets their first. They get their first. Oh, so it's kind of like a man on High Castle kind of thing. Yeah, exactly. One sort of thing. OK, gotcha. Gotcha. OK, I misunderstood. So you guys want to hear some of the wonderful things NASA has done or that you use every day because of NASA, you fuckers, please.
00:39:15
Speaker
It's aggressive, but sure. I mean, I need a waitlessly aggressive, but I'll take it. You guys know half my novelty shirts are NASA shirts. So that's true. All right. So they did memory foam. It was originally developed to help make cushions for landing and take off safer. Oh, I have a memory foam mattress.
00:39:35
Speaker
Do you have sex? Kevin and I have gotten down on that one. And I'll tell you this much, the mattress remembers. Well, you know what's great is you can just sit the mattress, the therapy. You can take Kevin to pants, you can take Kevin to pound town and have a beer sitting on the corner and that beer will not tip over.
00:39:53
Speaker
will not tip over. The mattress is not doing well after that. It was a little awkward when we tested it out in the store. I will say this though, whether it be a box spring or a memory foam, Kevin always cries.
00:40:09
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Doesn't matter. That is, that is a constant. Yes. You can't control your emotions. And that's where I like Kevin. Here's a scratch resistant lenses. So, you know, like all your like Oakley's and all that stuff with the polycarbonate lenses and basically wear Oakley. Well, like most like you're not, you're not playing minor league baseball. You're probably not wearing Oakley. So, you know, you're more, you got Neil Armstrong and a bang for that.
00:40:38
Speaker
Um, yeah, yeah. And, well, in your, in your, uh, I don't know. In your sleeveless shirt. I don't, I don't, I'm trying to think what would be this. Yeah, that's the hate sleeves. The original space suit didn't have them, but people kept dying. They're super, they're super pro Nazi, but they hate fucking thieves. Look at my guns. I can't breathe.
00:41:04
Speaker
Um, and the reason they did is, you know, that the sun shields that come down and all that. So actually even that coding that that's on that coding is also the same thing, but basically it was so that there's coding on also that because there's space dust. Did you guys know that there's space dust and it would scratch up regular. Like at that time it would have scratched up the stuff on the spaceship. Yeah. So.
00:41:25
Speaker
Have you ever worn Oakleys? I thought you were going to say I've ever been hit with space dust. I have. I've worn Oakleys. They're fantastic. The vision that you have in them is incredible. And you can ride a jet ski and they don't fall off.
00:41:44
Speaker
In your sleeveless shirt. With your mullet. In your American flag swim trunks. Cordless tools. The reason we have cordless tools is because they needed to have tools that the astronauts could take out of the space shuttle or out of the ships and build them.
00:42:01
Speaker
But don't you think some of this stuff would have, they would have figured out anyway. Nope. I don't want to be that guy. But well, so, so what the, what they did was what the money they spent on making batteries small enough to work on the handheld devices. That is the part that a company. So what you're saying is if we did not have a space program and we did not employ Nazis in 2024, we would not have a cordless screwdriver. Yep.
00:42:26
Speaker
We would still be sitting there either with a hand, or we'd have the drills that you have to plug in, and we'd need a lot of extension cords. The extension cord business would be thriving right now. Right, and you would have 3,747 people die a year from drilling into the extension cord. Well, you know what? That's sort of a natural selection kind of thing.
00:42:50
Speaker
We wouldn't have Trump because he would have died doing that. So water filtration systems because they basically had to drink their own urine. So they needed something that could reset the water over and over again. They had to drink that some of them like want to drink their own urine and maybe not filter it. Have you ever ever had your own urine? Did they pee on each other? Did you just ask if I've drank my own urine? I did.
00:43:17
Speaker
I don't know. I don't know. Like how many people? You know, there's a porn called two girls in a cup. I don't see how defensive he is. I know how defensive he is. Definitely. That means he had a normal response. That's it's not beer. No response. That's not an IPA. That's just piss. Yeah. Yeah. No, that is that is true. There's a little left.
00:43:41
Speaker
Yum, yum, yum, yum, yum. Sweet nectar. Hmm. Asparagus. You're a satellite television and communication. So like all the GPS, all the shit that we have on our phones and stuff like that, you wouldn't have. Hang on. I got to grab another can of my piss. It's your piss is brewed locally. Yes, it is. It's actually it's brewed in Boulder, Colorado. Hey, John, have you ever made your own satellite dish? I have not.
00:44:10
Speaker
Have you ever drank your own satellite dish? I have. I've had it, like, wait, because, well, I don't know. I'm not going to get into it. Yeah, let's not talk about you drinking piss. I didn't say I drink piss. I wasn't even going to say I drink piss. God, everything's piss, piss, piss with you. Actually, it was a lot of piss with you.
00:44:32
Speaker
Listen, you're both talking about piss fondly, okay? Here's a weird one. So infrared ear thermometers. So NASA's technology used to measure the temperature of stars helped in the development of ear thermometers that quickly and accurately measure body temperature without contact.
00:44:48
Speaker
So we use, we have one of those. So that's why you don't have to shove up your ass anymore. Yeah. I mean, you can, but it's for a different reason. It's just pleasure. Okay. You said that your thermometer, so there's an ear thermometer. You don't show up your ass. No, there's just, just a regular though. Don't be stupid. Just a regular thermometer. Sorry. The one with mercury,

Modern Ethical Dilemmas with Historical Roots

00:45:08
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you can ask any ER doctor and they'll tell you that people will shove anything up their ass. They will. Yeah. I have a smart bulb in there right now.
00:45:17
Speaker
You have a what? Smart bulb in there right now. A smart bulb? Yeah, not a regular bulb. I got Wi-Fi in my ass. Are you connected by Bluetooth? I am. Yeah. I am. So is your Kenny Loggins collection? Is it pretty echoey? Wait, because of Bluetooth? When you listen to Kenny Loggins on your smart speaker. I don't know who that is. Is that a musician? What? Kenny Loggins? I don't know who that is.
00:45:44
Speaker
Well, OK. Footloose. Is that a song? Loose kick off your Sunday. Sorry. I went to its highway. Dangerous. There we go. I just wanted to get you. That's what we call a callback from like four years ago. Goes to all right. Um, camera phones. So basically the miniaturation, the miniaturation, the migration, migration. Why don't you? Why don't you?
00:46:14
Speaker
Um, just make sure you don't read the words you can't pronounce. Well, that'd be a lot of words. It'd be a much shorter episode. That's me. You don't know. You can't pronounce it until you come. Okay. Let me, let me read it without being without pronouncing or with me not pronouncing the words that can't pronounce. Uh, so it would be the of four to the B.
00:46:37
Speaker
Does that make any sense? Yeah. Honestly, that was the most profound thing you've ever said. So you can read articles. That's it. Yeah. Yeah. I don't even know what that means, but yeah. Um, the minute, if John stopped having to pronounce words he couldn't pronounce, we would just talk about movies all day. That's true. The entire show would just be talking about movies.
00:46:56
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The tiny, tiny of cameras like Top Gun, the making smaller of cameras for space missions contributed to the technology that allows high quality cameras to be compact enough for inclusion in smartphones.
00:47:09
Speaker
okay i still go back to don't you think that we would have come up with some of this stuff just because i agree with kevin well i agree with kevin that's weird i do i do agree with kevin but i wait both of you but i think right i think we would have come up with eventually but i think the timeline i don't think we'd have it now i think it would go out it would be a lot further out
00:47:46
Speaker
NASA spent billions of dollars figuring out how to do that, and so they already had the platform, and I don't know that a company, like eventually they would, right, because it's the economic incentive, and yes, eventually there would be the incentive to do that, but I think it would have been on a longer timeline.
00:47:52
Speaker
I think we have it by now. I think we have it by now too. I think we have it by now too. I think we have it by now too. I think we have it by now too. I think we have it by now too. I think we have it by now too. I think we have it by now too. I think we have it by now too. I think we have it by now too. I think we have it by now too. I think we have it by now. I think we have it by now. I think we have it by now. I think we have it by now. I think we have it by now. I think we have it by now. I think we have it by now. I think we have it by now. I think we have it by now. I think we have it by now. I think we have it by now. I think we have it by now. I think we have it by now. I think we have it by now. I think we have it by now. I think we have it by
00:48:02
Speaker
The money to develop the technology would have been too much. It's the same thing with all this stuff. That makes sense. I still stand by it. We would have had it. Yeah, but you're stupid. I mean, I still think we would have, but I get that someone would have had to put up some immense capital. Do you guys get how capitalism... For example, like AI, right? So 10 years ago, there wasn't a company in the world messing around with AI because the economic incentive was not big enough.
00:48:29
Speaker
There were, but it wasn't like on a scale of what... There wasn't private companies doing it. It was all colleges. It was all universities getting into AI, figuring it out. And then once they got to a certain point where companies went like, oh, that's far enough along now. Well, we can start investing in it and we'll get a return on our investment. So it's like this... They call that an ROI for people listening. They do. They do. Dividends. Dow.
00:48:55
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NASDAQ. NASDAQ. Thanks for joining us, everybody. Great episode. Wireless headsets originally developed by astronauts to communicate freely while keeping their hands free during spacewalks. Wireless headsets are now ubiquitous in consumer electronics. Solar panels. So if there are wired headsets still that exist, like the ones that we're wearing, do wireless headsets even exist?
00:49:25
Speaker
What? I don't know. How high are you right now?
00:49:31
Speaker
Yeah, I'm going to go need to grab some weed if I'm going to need to go grab some weed if I'm going to keep up with you here. So listen to this one, Greg, because this makes my fucking point. Solar panels, while not invented by NASA, solar technology was significantly advanced through space programs leading to more efficient and affordable solar panels for residential and commercial use.
00:49:55
Speaker
Well, that's exciting. Yeah. Yeah, it is exciting. Yeah. Sustainable technology. And again, because of the amount of money they put into, you know, because again, you have these tax dollars and you're like, okay, we need the satellite to be able to power itself for so many years and only do that a solar or gasoline. But if it goes engine goes out, you have to send a guy up there and pull that crank and that's expensive.
00:50:15
Speaker
So let's figure out how to do it without gas. And then you got to do the choke thing. You got to spray starter fluid on it. It's the whole thing. Wouldn't it be hilarious if they like, if all of them ran off of like 50 CC engines, all the satellites and every single thing every time we invest solar. God damn it. Do you guys have solar panels on your house? I don't own a house. So no, I refuse to answer that question, but yes, we do. Do you really? Yeah, lots of them.
00:50:45
Speaker
You have solar panels? Yes. Fuck. How many times are you going to ask me? Good for you. No, I didn't know that. I mean, I've known you for for like 27 years or whatever the hell it is now in California. In California, pretty popular. Yeah, it's pretty popular in Colorado, too. But, you know, I just didn't know. I didn't know. I apologize. I have a random fact about your solar panels, but I'm not going to tell you because I don't want to make you feel like dumb shit. Have you saved a lot of money? Yes. That's awesome. Mm hmm.
00:51:12
Speaker
Have you ever gone on your roof completely nude? Never. Except for when I recreate that scene from Once Upon a Time in Hollywood and I pretend I'm Brad Pitt and I daydream about when I beat the shit out of Bruce Lee. Yeah. Who doesn't?
00:51:28
Speaker
You really do have a thing for Brad Pitt, don't you? I really like Brad Pitt a lot. I mean, it comes up a lot. I mean, I'm just saying. I will say, it makes me very livid when I say I'd fuck Brad Pitt and people are like, oh, I don't think he's that good looking. No, you're an idiot. That man is... Yeah, but those people are probably under 40.
00:51:49
Speaker
I don't care. I don't care if they're 12. But I'm just saying, like, you know, I'm saying like there was a time where people like you don't think Clark Gable is hot. You know, like, I mean, you know, it's times change, you know, it's Austin Butler now, baby. You know, Brad Pitt still. Nope, he's my guy. I don't even have to have sex with him. I just want to hang out with him and be his buddy. He does seem like a cool dude. Yeah. Yeah. He's funny. He's handsome. I just man, I could just he'd be like to earn the sex. He'd be like Greg four point.
00:52:20
Speaker
Greg, he would be Greg 24 point. Oh, OK. I'm just saying no offense. But no, that's offensive. Yeah, you don't you don't really have the looks there. I mean, like, come on, like he's ruggedly handsome.
00:52:35
Speaker
He's in the amazing shape. You're like in front of some guest bed. I don't know. It's not the same. I hate this fucking podcast. There's some sort of graphics on your wall. I'm not even sure what that is. It's like, it's going to make me feel better about this is if it's almost over. Is it almost, it's almost over. You shut up. Let me get through this. I'm trying to. All right. Let me, let me, let me give you the, um, so did a, all right. I'll just do.
00:53:01
Speaker
I'll do one more because I thought this, he's got, he's got 47 more products. Literally there's like, I've got a list of like 30 products that we have because, but here's, we don't need to do them all. Give me the best ones that you haven't said so far. Here's the best one. I think not the one we use. In fact, I don't think anybody has this anymore, but dust busters. Oh, yeah. Yeah. That is a good one. I could totally use a dust buster. That is an underrated appliance.
00:53:30
Speaker
I like him. You know what? I have to get the vacuum out every time. Yeah, you don't have to program the tell the Roomba to go. Yeah. Why do you stop making it? No, they still make it. No, they make. Yeah, they probably do. I do. Yeah. Courtney's got one. OK, she's got it. They may not be called dust busters anymore. Is she is she busting dust with it? No, I think dust buster is like buster is some reason it's offensive now. So it's just they're just called dust. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. Dust buster cannot be offensive. How do you know?
00:53:59
Speaker
Cause you didn't even know if they make them or not anymore. You guys are too fucking woke. It's not. No, it's not offensive. I'm kidding. I am. Oh, okay. I thought that that was a real thing. I was just, I was just kind of making a little joke about people. I've been had. You have been had. You've been bamboozled if you will. I've been hoodwinked.
00:54:20
Speaker
So I guess like I'm not going to do it. So the question is, like, do we learn from our mistakes? I don't know. Probably not. How does this tie in? No, let's just say no. We don't learn from our mistakes, but we do. But we're getting our listeners are getting used to that. We get really cool shit sometimes from our mistakes because of Nazis. I mean, there are mistakes. It was like it was two separate episodes.
00:54:42
Speaker
Well, no, right. Cause well, the whole thing was like, do we, that's fine. No, do we enjoy them both? Yeah. Like, you know, I think, here we go. Here we hindsight, hindsight is 2020. Let's drink. All right. So we're going to change our podcast to hindsight 2020. Also get a dust busser. Let's bring it back. Let's bring up. It's not offensive. I don't care how woke you are. We should drink and two for one. Cheers.
00:55:14
Speaker
Thanks, John. Thanks, Greg. Nazis. Sorry. Yeah. No. No. Thank you. Not. Wait, you're apologizing to Nazis. That's how you're ending the episode. I'm saying I'm saying I'm apologizing for talking about. Right. And I'm saying I'm saying no. Thank you, Nazis. Yeah. No. Thank you, Nazis. You don't have to use good manners with them. Fuck off, Nazis. There you go. Yeah.
00:55:35
Speaker
Eat a dick, Nazis. Take your little tiki-torch khaki pants. Unless that's what you're into, then don't eat a dick. Yeah. Then eat a whole bag of them. Nobody likes a whole bag of anything. You're gonna get sick of them. If you're eating a bag of dicks, those are... those are decapit... or not decapitated. That wouldn't be a thing. That would be... Decapitated. Get the head off of the cut-off dick. So you take each dick out of the bag of dicks and you cut the head off of it. That's a decapitated bag of dicks.
00:56:00
Speaker
sort of detected that the cambodated bag of dicks is just a bunch of heads. And then you take that bag and you put it in a, in a, in another bag and you call that just the tips. So yes. And you have to eat them. That's what you have to do. You have to eat the bag of dicks. So cause everybody knows that's the no ranch. No, no dipping sauce. No, no kraut. No nothing. No, Gregor McGregor. None of it. No, Gregor McGregor is no Gregor. McGregor was a hero compared to exactly. He was, he was fucking the saint of, he only killed like 250 people. Right. Right.
00:56:30
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Burning hell Nazis. Yeah. I can't think of a better way to end the episode.