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Robert Hanssen, Movie Remakes, and Minimum Wage
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In this episode of HDI, Greg discusses the FBI man turned Russian spy, Robert Hanssen, Kevin wonders why Hollywood continues to remake movies despite their lack of success, and John discusses minimum wage, and how it's not a livable wage in the slightest sense.
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00:00:00
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Like when i was younger i used to drink to lower my inhibition so i could talk to people but i don't i have no problem talking to people like when we go out i don't need to drink to like bullshit you're an alcoholic john and we get it it's fine if i think ah i'm still waiting for my apology i don't know what step he's on the truth proof of someone that's an alcoholic is somebody that has to be like i'm not going to drink anymore But I didn't say that. I didn't say I wasn't going to drink anymore. You fucking started on all the benefits of food. Well, I don't know. this So I'm not saying I'm done for. I just, you know, I don't know. But but I will. Like for me, it's like every time I get drunk, I put stuff in my butt. That is like, like I got us. You can. That is a problem for you. My deductible is maxed out. You know, yeah I can't go to the emergency room. Oh, your ass is a maxed out. Your deductible. Okay. that's We haven't found that limit yet. Okay. So he's being reasonable with what he's putting up there. Okay.
00:00:59
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History defeats itself as a comedy podcast. Kevin, John, and Greg are not experts, historians, or even all that smart.
00:01:11
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You know what? I fucking miss weed and cookies. That's what the fuck I miss. Yeah, but yeah especially weed, then cookies. Yeah. Yeah. Wait a minute. You're not eating cookies either. No, no sugar. Do you not like so? Yeah, like so. I thought you meant the alcohol, like sugar alcohols. Both. Yeah. So that's fucking terrible. I think it's worse to not have sugar than alcohol. But but you I think you're right. You're 100 percent right. You should see my abs. Can I see them? They're fucking toit. My abs are really good, too, and I drink a lot.
00:01:41
Speaker
I mean, I have to suck in. Let's have an ab off. My abs are fucking fantastic. they are I had to go and I had to go shirtless to a Halloween costume party. So our Halloween party. So that's extremely vain of everything that you have said tonight, including the pre-show, which lasted 45 minutes. That's the most appalling thing I've heard that I.
00:02:02
Speaker
that I worked on my body because I was going to be shirtless. No, that you go shirtless for like nobody wants to see that. Even if you're fucking in great shape, no one wants to see you shirtless. Is that, was that wrong? If your chest is anywhere near as white as your face. No, I got spray tanned. Oh, perfect. Then I would. Oh, no, no, no. I don't want to do that to people. I would never do that to people almost reach on your whole body except your face. No, you know, it's funny that, well, first of all, my lighting's jacked up here, but no, my face, I think it's maybe, I don't know, maybe that the face wash you use or something like that, but the the tan went away from my face first. That was the first thing to go. Yeah.
00:02:37
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So that was kind of interesting. I actually still have a little bit of a bronze. I like it. so I wish there was a way I could i could stay tan without giving myself cancer or having to get sprayed with a disgusting smelling solvent or whatever, not solvent. I don't know. The cancer might be worth it if you look good.
00:03:00
Speaker
Yeah, I could get behind that. Yeah, I go to the dermatologist. They'll catch it. They'll catch it in time. Whatever. All right. Let's get going here. We've been talking forever. Greg, you kick off because I don't think you started one. Yeah. Why don't you guys go fuck yourselves? I'm ready to go, though. Go for it, man. All right, guys. Hey, we're going to go.
00:03:24
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Not old school, history defeats itself. We're gonna go mid-school, history defeats itself. So what is it when I feel like... Like seventh grade? We've got like three... Those were tough years. We've had three eras of our podcast. We've had the first one where I used to print out 50 sheets of paper.
00:03:42
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and And it was like a dissertation. It was a dissertation. and And then we kind of just went, then, then mid school, we kind of started talking about people, individuals, right? right Where, you know, we'd see, Hey, did that person really fuck everything up? And were they a ah maverick? Did they change things? And now new school disruptor.
00:04:02
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you were they just I like that one. Thank you. Keyword. Um, and, and now we kind of just don't do any research at all and whatever kind of, ah we don't I wouldn't say why don't, you I don't do raise her at all. Uh, but this time I'm going to go mid school. I'm going to talk about a guy and, and how he kind of defeated itself. So in the context of me telling you about Robert Phillip Hanson,
00:04:30
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of the group, Hanson of the group, Hanson, I will also, he is representative or indicative of a larger group of people. So we're going to start with body. And then I would like to get your opinion about people of his ilk. Okay. Okay. Robert, is he really from the band, Hanson? No, he is not. Okay. I didn't know. I didn't know. I'm not judging your question. I'm just answering it. Yeah, that's true.
00:04:59
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and spot Alright, Bobby, Bobby Phillip, Bobby Phillip Hanson, he was born in 1944. He only passed about a year ago. And um so he he made it to 79 years old. ah What's unique about him is he held a position at the Federal Bureau of Investigations. And known as the FBI.
00:05:29
Speaker
What's the other one for that? Like free boobies? international what what do we call free boo Inspector. Yeah. Yeah. Free boob inspector. and That was a federal boom specter. Oh, it's federal federal. It is. It's federal. bo it's gotta to be a fedd You got to be as it is a federal agency. You pull up your fucking I mean, I mean, yeah, like, like I think it's implied that it's not you're not going to charge. yeah You don't have to say free.
00:05:54
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true It's Everybody that does that service, it's on the honor system. It's and it's its free. Everybody knows it's free. No one has to worry about confidence. Actually, what a lot of people don't know is it's a federal program to check for mammogra for a check for breast cancer. It's a pre-diagnosis.
00:06:14
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okay so He worked for the FBI, but what this little son of a bitch did, he started in 1979. And he rose through the ranks, this guy, and he had, uh, classifications and clearances and shit like that. And what did he do? What did he do with that? He was entrusted. The guy was a big fucking wheel there. How can I guess? I mean, it I kind of feel like I'm telegraphing a little bit. like Oh, are you okay. I won't be shocked if you tell me, but go for it. No, no, no, go ahead. Go ahead. No, no, no, no. I want to hear your guess. Was he a spy? Well, he worked for the FBI.
00:06:51
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No, but was he spying on us? He sold secrets to the Soviet Union. Yeah, yeah. OK, I guess that's so. He was a double motherfucking agent. Don't don't don't talk to fucker. Man, this guy pants and man, secret pants and man, Bob.
00:07:14
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So he joined the agency in 1976. That's the same year as when the Olympics took place in Montreal. And OK, that was also that was also the United States by Centennial. Oh, it was. That's a good point. And and it was two years before I was born. Oh, fuck, that's weird. And twenty nine years after you were born, Greg. You know what they say about time.
00:07:44
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There's no, there's no real start or stop to it. So no, that's true. You're, you're kind of put me in a, you're putting me in a box. So he joined in 1976 and ninth. It took him three whole years of operating his job with integrity before you fucking decided, Hey, you know what? I bet you I know a way to make money. I got a little side hustle.
00:08:02
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He approached the Soviet main intelligence directorate, the GRU. Oh yeah, the GRU. To offer his services, beginning his first espionage cycle lasting until 1981. That was his first cycle that lasted until 1981, by the way, because he restarted his espionage activities in 1985 and continued until 1991. And the reason why that ended was because of the collapse of the Soviet Union. I don't know if you're familiar with that, but that fucking wall, whatever they call it. The Berlin wall came down and, uh, the Soviet union, much to Vladimir Putin's thanks to Ronald Reagan and David Hasselhoff, David Hasselhoff cause he was on tour in Germany and didn't he say, didn't he sing on the, on the wall? I'm sure he did. I think he did. I think he was like singing as they, as they were tearing it down. Didn't he was the song of his generation.
00:09:01
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So um actually, he's and then he started spying again. This guy, this motherfucker after 91. Yeah, he heard the Russians again for just the Russians. I don't know if you know this or not, but the Russians are still very much interested in in American secrets and fucking intelligence. Did you hear that they've got some some North Korean troops joining their force now?
00:09:24
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I did hear about some crazy shit that's happening these days, and we're just kind of marching towards world war three. Everybody. Yes, we are. You know, the thing what what makes what makes a world war so great is everybody gets involved. Everybody's coming. yeah All your friends come. out yeah So this guy, he sold about 6000 classified documents, the KGB, that detailed US strategies in the events of a nuclear war.
00:09:53
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developments of military weapon technologies and our counterintelligence program. So if you think about it, these are like kind of the most important, this is everything that was happening in the eighties. You remember fucking Ronald Reagan and the nuclear arms race and all of our justifications.
00:10:11
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Uh, for spending, like, I don't think our budget was ever higher for defense than it was in the eighties when we were just, I mean, I think if we develop developed over John, how many like 2000 fucking nuclear warheads and how many of those motherfuckers are even missing and maybe even more than two that maybe it's 2000 are missing. Why didn't you ask me? Why'd you ask John? it John's our military buff. Everyone knows that.
00:10:35
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Well, and I did serve some soft serve yogurt i'm at the Dairy Queen. And then they told me, so you're not supposed to be behind the counter. And then I left. And that's the story. If we have a bronzer question, we go to Kevin.
00:10:49
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Anything else? You don't want to go too coppery. No, no, no, no. It's a delicate balance. So if you, if you think about like the, you guys remember what it was like in the eighties?
00:11:02
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Maybe. I don't know. Neon yeah yeah yeah neon colors. yeah Lots of Miami vibes. Big hair, big hair, rollers, yeah eight colors, roller skates, high socks. Cocaine. Lots of cocaine. Lots of cocaine. Just set tapes. And Walkmans. I still think it's rather shocking. Ghostbusters. That's a good point.
00:11:26
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Eddie Murphy was on a high. He was doing great at that time. his time yeah If you think about it though, like little Debbie hadn't been disgraced yet. Jesus Christ. Because of the sex scandal. Did that happen with little Debbie? You mean the one that produces all the cookies and shit? Right now. Say that again.
00:11:44
Speaker
Are you talking about little, did you say little Debbie? I did say little Debbie. No. I don't know. I thought, was he being serious? I don't think he was. Is Debbie just a mascot or a logo? We can say that about Michael Jackson now. He is going to town on his nose right now. Lord, get the fucking boogers out and let's go. People think it's okay to pick their nose if they have a thin layer of tissue. But I'm picking your fucking nose, dude. I mean, would you rather I go over my fingers? I would rather you not do that at all.
00:12:13
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Well, tough shit. Or at least making only fans. I don't think people, ah maybe, maybe I should. I'm glad we don't, we don't post this on YouTube anymore. No, we don't do video anymore. So he's in the clear. Middle-aged man, totally called him out. I feel better he to turn red. What?
00:12:37
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You think you'd get embarrassed and you would know why would it be embarrassed? Everybody has snot. OK, I was doing it and then I was doing it in the the nice gentlemanly way. and That wasn't very gentlemanly. And I don't know if you know this or not, but the way your camera is set, it's like, you know, it's the biggest. Yeah, we're looking up the nose. So like if you need to if you want to know what's going on up there, just ask Greg. or i If we were if we were better friends, we'd give you directions.
00:13:03
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But then again, I don't know what your right is and what my left is. yes Yeah, it's very confusing. I agree. I agree. We got to be careful with that. Yeah. Okay, guys. So this motherfucker, he had no fucking integrity because ill Why would you do that to the fucking with the Soviet Union for what? A little bit of money. Was it strictly money or was he like sympathetic to the cause or anything like that? It's zero sympathy towards the cause. He just wanted a little bit of cash and it wasn't a ton. So for the first, for the first fucking, his first little stint, he only made like 20 grand, like the first four or five years. And that's what the fuck are you doing now? The second, the second,
00:13:46
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stint he did, he made, um, over $500,000. That's better, but you're still like, like, I kind of want to be set for life. You know, if I'm going to be doing this shit, you want millions, right? Yeah. Millions out of zero. Yeah. So anyway, uh, he was, so the FBI paid, okay, hold on. me I'm going to back up a little bit.
00:14:10
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So one of the things that Hansen did is he revealed a multimillion dollar eavesdropping tunnel built by the FBI under the Soviet embassy. Whoa. Yeah, that was fucked up because he didn't have to tell us kind of fucked up that we did that, though, no, not at all. They're fucking Soviets.
00:14:31
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I will say you you're very angry at this man. So you very much either you very much do not like communism or you are trying to prove citizenship through this episode. Can it be neither? Yes. So is it like he really hates the Van Hansen and he. Yeah. So and this is the father of hands. Yeah. Yeah. OK, so after OK, Bob was actually about communism. It's a little known fact.
00:14:59
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It is actually if you you have to go really deep in the dark web, yeah the lyrics. No, no, you play it backwards. That's everything you need to know. Yeah. So the FBI paid seven million dollars to KGB agent to obtain a file on an anonymous mall whom the FBI later identified as Hanson through fingerprints and voice analysis. So the FBI bribed the KGB or gave them money to find out who the fuck their spy was. What? And they did it. This is why you don't do business with your KGB. This is another reason not to like the fucking. This and this alone. Yeah, you just can't trust them. you No. So. So no integrity in lying anymore. No, it's it's bad. So no integrity in espionage.
00:15:54
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So he got arrested in 2001. at Foxtone Park, which is close to where he lived. And ah he left up. There was a package left at a dead drop site. So basically what they would do is they went super fucking old school where he would leave hard copies, printouts of shit in a spot. And he would watch from behind a fucking tree across the street and there'd be the switch for money for the files. And he got diamonds, he got Rolexes, he got a little bit of money. Um,
00:16:29
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He ended up pleading guilty to 14 counts of of espionage and conspiracy to commit espionage. Because of that, he was able to avoid the death penalty because, you as you guys know, treason is punishable by what? Death. That's right. Go to go to episode one. Hanging. ah Episode two. Go to episode two. Also go to episode one and tell us what that one's about.
00:16:54
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yeah Yeah. Start at the beginning. I mean, you've got to know how this all you know unfolds. It's an arc. You'll really appreciate it. Taxes is a real thing. It is. It is kind of an arc, but so he ended up being sentenced to 15 life terms without the possibility of parole. And there he remained until 2023.
00:17:15
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when he kicked it. So so now they gotta revive his body. Here's something that I wanna- 14 more times. About when they give people life sentences, but when they do those multiple life sentences. So what happens if he gets bit by a vampire and is made immortal?
00:17:30
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I think there's usually a clause in the, in the, in the, in the verdict. Yeah. Yeah. That's crazy. That's that's crazy, man. I it's, it it is funny. Like, like to think that someone would do all that just for money. Cause that's why I asked if he was a sympathizer, you know, just because like, then I, then at least I get it. Like he's got a pass, but it's like, okay, he's got some sort of allegiance to them or or he's fell. He's fell under their spell, whatever you want to say. Like he, but, but it was just some, some, some cash and not that much cash. It wasn't that much. It wasn't enough. And how Russian is it to give away a Rolex? I mean, seriously. And there's no way it was real. No, no. Yeah. No, it was Rolex. It was relax. Relax. Don't do it. So yeah, this fucking guy.
00:18:19
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You know, according to Wikipedia, I guess, you know, I guess that might be a source. Is that what they say? They say this fucking guy with this fucking guy. He lived. He lived actually kind of a highfalutin lifestyle. He had ah three boys. They all went to a really expensive prep school and they were part. They played tennis.
00:18:40
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His wife was pretty religious. she was a ah She was pretty devout Catholic. He became a devout Catholic. He started he went to church on a daily basis. And yeah, well, well, I mean, if Catholicism teaches you anything, all you got to do is just go. Go confess. That's exactly. And that's what he that's exactly what he did. He confessed and fucked that priest. Well, the priest, the authorities priest was very busy doing his own things that he he was committing his own crimes. He was committing it with his sons, probably. So Hanson always led with, hey, by the way, I know you're doing to those altar boys. So I got something to tell you. Oh my god. Did you guys read there was some like I forget maybe been in San Diego. It was the largest single settlement ever from the Catholic Church for a sexual assault victim. It was like 800 and something million dollars. Oh, wow. Yeah.
00:19:31
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That's a lot of fuck like they deserve like they should have to sell off every fucking church they have. They should have to. They call it in college in college football. If you do something bad enough, your program gets what they call the death penalty where you cannot have a football team anymore. They should not have a religion anymore. They should get the death penalty for what they've done. Yeah, they should kind of made it out. Might as well fucking do it. Yeah. So yeah. again So Hanson was going he was going to church. he'd He he took a fucking he went to a priest and he fucking begged for forgiveness told him what a sins was priest probably said do 15 Hail Mary's and uh get across the end zone and and don't tell anybody about me diddling those kids yeah and and apparently like there's no integrity because that was as far as it went and the only reason why he went to the priest is because his wife fucking
00:20:23
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Caught him in the act of committing, like preparing for his espionage. And he's like, oh Oh yeah, that's exactly what I'm doing. I'm espionageing with the fucking Russians. I think it's Espinosa. So she, she caught him doing it. And then she was like, well, keep doing it, but go to church, go to church. No, she wanted him to stop. And that lasted a couple of years and then he started up again. So, you know, fuck this guy.
00:20:49
Speaker
He was addicted to the to the rush, maybe. He probably did. But if you saw a picture of the guy, you'd be like, that hair has never been in a rush in its life. Like this guy, he looked like a total fucking just a nerdy square FBI guy who figured out that he could make us some ah make some money. Make it like, do you know, did he get approached? Is that how it like started? No, he is the one that sought out the the Russians and with this information. Yeah.
00:21:17
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Yeah. Okay. So something else that was very interesting about him. um So at Hanson's suggestion and with without his wife's knowledge, a friend named Jack Hushor, a retired army officer, would sometimes watch the Hanson's having sex through a bedroom window. Hanson then began to videotape a sexual encounter secretly and share the videotapes with Hushler.
00:21:41
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Horscher, I don't fucking, i e I'll never really say his name right. Anyway, later he hit a message in the bathroom. That's right. Connected via closed circuit television. So, you know, it's the eighties. So that Horscher, because apparently he liked getting Horscher off, could observe the Hanson's from the Hanson's guest bedroom.
00:22:00
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He also explicitly described the sexual details of his marriage in Internet chat rooms. Remember Internet chat rooms? Yes. Giving information sufficient for those who knew them to recognize a couple. Hanson frequently visited D.C. strip clubs and spent a great deal of time with a Washington stripper named Priscilla Sue Gailey. She went with Hanson on visits to Hong Kong and the F.Y. training in training facility in Quanzong,
00:22:31
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Guantanamo, ah qua Quantico, sorry, Virginia. Gitmo. Guantanamo Bay, Virginia. Hanson gave her money jewels and a used Mercedes because he's not paying fucking retail. But no, no, no, no. Ended. Everybody knows you drive that thing off a lot. It loses all of its value. Yeah. So he got arrested. Oh, wait a second. I'm sorry. He ended contact with her before his arrest when she began abusing drugs and engaging in prostitution.
00:23:01
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That's when she started. Well, whatever. Galey claims that although she ah offered to have sex with him, Hanson declined saying he was trying to convert her to Catholicism. and
00:23:13
Speaker
This guy, haven't we all tried that one. Yeah. yeah So he died in 2023 of colon cancer. He passed out and nobody really cared all that much. Nobody missed him. There have been some movies and some shit made about his life story.
00:23:30
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ah There was a movie in 2007 called Breach. It starred Chris Cooper playing the role of Hanson and ah Ryan Felipe. You know, why not put him in there? He's kind of a big deal. And so is the end of his little story. But I think it's more fascinating to, well, it's fascinating as well to talk about what could potentially attract somebody to a life of treason.
00:24:00
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And as you mentioned, you've already expressed your curiosity, Kevin, by saying, you know, was he a sympathizer to their cause? No. Was it a ton of money? No, I think it was a thrill. I think it was just ego driven and probably, yeah, the rush, the rush of it and getting getting away with it, you know? Yeah.
00:24:17
Speaker
But you also think tend to think that these guys that have this super high security clearance from a federal agency, like the FBI, the a free booby inspectors, federal booby inspectors, you know, you would think that they would do a good job kind of doing a background check. and Greg, we don't want people to think the service is free. Okay. Like we've we we've got to make money at this or it's never going to work. You know what happened with the hand job. How to business in a month. Well, yeah, carpal tunnel. It's real.
00:24:47
Speaker
and we never We never charged anyone. right didn What are we thinking? well should never Should made sure to put but only one per customer on the freehand job cards we sent out. yeah yeah Or at least once a day. but it should be It should be one freehand job after 13 paid hand jobs. That's what you shouldve done there yeah we Yeah, we gave those cards and we just and and John got the penis stamp. Well, Greg, what what do you what do you think? like why Why would someone go to that?
00:25:16
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to that level. I mean, cause it's not just, you're not just like doing, like there's a lot of ways to get rushes. Like that's a pretty, I'm so surprised reasons. You jump out of a fucking plane, like just like go do something, go, go skydiving, go like bungee jumping, what you know, but he obviously, what what do you think? Why, why was he so drawn to? I am surprised that someone that made it their life's work to be a, an FBI agent at at a high ranking would actually sell out his integrity for for just such little and it actually compromised the security of our country and it resulted, which I kind of, I didn't get to, um but it did result in the death of two russian Russian spies because he ratted them out to Russia when he was giving them all their classified information. oh wow The United States discovered a couple of spies that were working, they were Russian spies, but they were double agents as well and they were executed.
00:26:17
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So some of his secrets did result in death of of people. and And you know, it could have really gone sideways. We could have had some, some serious issues in the eighties. Cause that's when, that's when Russia was the, uh, the biggest enemy and, or the Soviet union was anyway. And it it could have been really, really dangerous. Well, luckily he didn't. And the eighties were perfect. They were perfect. Well, all except for that town where people couldn't dance.
00:26:46
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That was a bitch. Yeah. But you know what happened? Kids went out. The kids went out. Yeah. John Lithgow. Go fuck yourself. This, uh, somebody, somebody just sent me a video of, um, like the scene where, oh, yeah, it was your, it was your sister-in-law Kevin. She sent me a video of, uh, when, do you remember the movie? He goes into the warehouse and he's angry. And so he angry dances, like,
00:27:13
Speaker
like Movies were terrible in the 80s. It was so stupid. I don't even remember much of the movie. I remember that part yeah everybody like as a kid. I'm like, what is he doing? And he was like smoking and he was like angry at the air. And yeah, it was just like these really just aggressive movements. And it's just like watching Roadhouse again, too. You're like, Oh, yeah. Well, this guy's was Patrick Swayze really that tough. Sam Elliott. Sure. Pain don't hurt.
00:27:42
Speaker
Greg, that's good. That's a good point. Yeah. Yeah. That was a little, that was a similar back. Then it's terrible. f That's debilitating. Hey, I got to go to the bathroom because we've been talking for a long time. So talk amongst yourselves. Can I watch?
00:27:57
Speaker
I mean, if he, if he pees in the corner there, thank god he's no couch or something, thank God, he's not wearing shorts. This guy, I could see his money. If he just moved, if he just moved that, uh, that soundproof barrier, you just peel it off the wall and just peed.
00:28:17
Speaker
That'd be really funny. Um, I don't know. We can't talk about him because there's speakers. We're coming to the speakers. Everybody in the house can hear us. Hello. I don't think he's too concerned about that with what we were talking about before the show started. That's true. That's true. Um,
00:28:33
Speaker
what do you want to talk about I don't know, man. i'm I'm really, I don't know. What do we, Oh, Hey, did you, did you know that, uh, is that the end of your topic?
00:28:45
Speaker
Yeah. But for all we know, this could end up in the show. Yeah. Oh, that's because he doesn't edit shit anymore. So no he does if you don't, if if you're going to say something that you don't want, I probably shouldn't say it.
00:28:58
Speaker
I think the guy has a bit of a, uh, God complex. Nope. Nope. Nope. I was going to say something wrong with his prostate because probably but sure god so like got a guy complex with ah a small bladder. So that's right. cause he So can he's drinking beer. It's actually isn't that I haven't seen him drink. I don't see like, yeah I know you're drinking. What are you drinking? and I'm drinking some Glen colon scotch whiskey.
00:29:28
Speaker
Oh, I do not like scotch. No, it's terrible. But I mixed it with a, I mixed it with a caffeine free diet coke. So two shitty things make an okay thing. I was able to drink it. Oh, how dare you, sir. I hate the pettiness. Why do you, why are you drinking diet coke? and what for Why do you have a scotch?
00:29:48
Speaker
Man, you know what? I would answer those questions, but they sound so fucking judgy. I don't want to. I'm judging you. Yes. There's no way to answer this. Not talking about the topic. i so three Are we not going to edit this out? I try not to. You don't need it. It's fine. That's fine. Leave it in. Don't say anything I should be aware of. No, no not at all. Nope.
00:30:13
Speaker
A couple of. I got quiet. Just a couple of racially charged words. We're just we're just thinking, thinking back. All right. Can I go next? Sure. Mine's going to be very short. Mine's going to be super short. Mine's pretty. I don't think mine will be real long either. Yeah. So I'm I'm going to turn the history defeats itself camera on Hollywood. All right. I didn't know we had a camera. The year was 1937. She talkies were becoming a thing.
00:30:42
Speaker
So did you guys ever see the the 1998 film Psycho with Vince Vaughn, the remake? I did have to. I don't. I probably did, but I don't remember anything about it. Did you see the remake of The Crow that came out recently? The what? nope The Crow. I did not. I did not because I know I'm not going to do that to Brandon Lee. He died for that film. My topic tonight is why the fuck is Hollywood so obsessed with remaking movies?
00:31:11
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Well, it's a business and they think that's they're going to make money that way. Okay, next topic, John. You say that, but they don't. I'm not saying it's successful. But that's my point. That's the whole much's the idea. Why do they keep trying? I mean, I'm serious. Like like the like the numbers you look at the data,
00:31:33
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they They're critically panned, they're bomb at the box office. like i'm like my like why is and i like like For example, Psycho. largely one of the most suspenseful movies, like people like maybe not anymore, like our you know younger listeners might not know it, but that was a big deal even when I was a kid. yeah I remember people talking about that movie. So are they banking on the fact that they're banking on probably one of two things. Either people have nostalgia for movies and they want to see a new version of it and they don't mind that they already fucking know how it's going to end or they're banking on brand new people that never saw the original to be surprised by the ending.
00:32:12
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and be more drawn to it because it's more modern is more modernized maybe. And maybe Vince Vaughn's a catch and he's kind of he pulls people in. Yeah. I think that they do their best to decide what can make money and it's a business and it might not be successful, but that's why they do it. It fucking doesn't make sense. And and the cycle with Vince Vaughn, no offense of Vince Vaughn was terrible.
00:32:35
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No, it was not good. Well, it was interesting about it. But in fairness, psycho two and three or whatever weren't good either. Yeah, that's true. That's true. They, I forgot they made multiple ones, but so the, the 1998 psycho was Gus Van Sant who you might know from Goodwill hunting, my own private Idaho. Um, uh, what was that to die for? That was a really good movie. He he did a lot of stuff.
00:33:00
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That movie cost 60 million dollars to make. And it grossed 37 million dollars. So not not great. And it's because the 37 million, even in 98, that's pathetic. And it's because Vince Vaughn wanted 50 million for that movie.
00:33:18
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It's not good. But I don't know, man. So so 33 percent of movie remakes, we're going to go buy Rotten Tomatoes. You guys use Rotten Tomatoes when you're going to watch my sometime. Yeah. 33% of movie remakes receive a fresh rating. We receive above like whatever that is above 60 or whatever it is or whatever that that not tomato splat is 33% 10% of all remakes have critically outperformed the originals and 63% of remakes have have
00:33:51
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Okay. I didn't finish that sentence. 63% of these movies that didn't finish at all. didn't They just didn't make up. I mean, 3% of Kevin's stats are made up. I think it's so, so it,
00:34:05
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but when When I saw the Crow remake was coming out, I was like, cause the Crow was right in my wheelhouse. I was a freshman in high school. me too Really loved the soundtrack. Like it was right in my wheelhouse. And so I was like appalled that they were remaking it, but I was like, whatever, who cares? Like I'm not going to see it. But I was kind of happy that it was horrible. It got, it got a 23%. It had a $50 million dollars budget, which seems really low to me. I didn't even know they made it.
00:34:31
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They made it and it was a 20. They made it so far. It's made $24 million. dollars It came out in like August and the end of the summer. And I don't know. Like ah what are the things I want to say about psycho? That was kind of interesting. It's a different kind of different. It was nearly a shot for shot remake of the original. Oh, that's interesting.
00:34:49
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Yeah. And, and even more so like why, like, like the critics were saying it was unnecessary and it didn't have their the suspense of the original and all this. I mean, it's, I guess I can't, I keep going back to why, why there's tons of people writing scripts in Hollywood. You know, is, is Gus Van Zink gonna fucking do better than Alfred Hitchcock?
00:35:14
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Right. I like Gus Van Sant a lot. I think he's good. I think he's a good director. But are you really going to like re retell the you didn't even retell the story. Just well, I guess he did. like What do they say? It's not a remake. It's a reboot or ah retelling. Right. Like if people like take something and try to retell it later on.
00:35:32
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Yeah, but if you get shot for shot, it's kind of it's not. Yeah, it's not a retelling. What's the point? Did you guys watch the thing? Yes. And did you watch? Did you see the the remake of that? but But it was it wasn't a remake, but I thought it was a remake and I watched it and it's not a remake and it's really fucking good.
00:35:51
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hu Did you go watch it? No. Yeah, you should. You should watch it with with the the guy from Avatar. I forget his name. English guy. Oh, yeah. Yeah. So it's like him. But it's like basically it's like. Yeah, it's it's it's like another part of this the same story, and it's really good. Oh, OK. I don't know. really they' have good stuff But it's it's interesting. I'll say interesting.
00:36:12
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Well, there has been stuff like that where you where, you know, they've kind of like continued a story like, they you know, if you think about superhero movies, you know, Batman or or any of those kind of movies. And and there have been successful remakes like I have some here, A Star is Born from 2018 with Bradley Cooper and Lady Gaga i was huge hit.
00:36:30
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Um, that one had been remade several times. Uh, it was the fourth remake, fourth remake of the original 1937 movie. And it was by far the most successful. This is a little looser, the departed, which I love that movie. I think you guys do too, or at least Greg, I think you and I have talked about that movie. Yeah. I love that. Maybe. Is that a really?
00:36:48
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What's that? That's a remake? Well, I knew this. It was a it was a remake of a Hong Kong movie from 2002 called Infernal Affairs. Infernal? Infernal. Yeah. Great name, right? I love that name. That's great. um Ocean's Eleven was a very successful remake. um True Grit was a very successful remake. Dune would be a more recent one and West Side Story. Those were very successful remakes. But I was looking up some of this stuff like Ben Hur was remade. I forgot about that. Yeah.
00:37:16
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Why would you, id like that was like this like crazy story of how this movie with tigers and like all this shit, like like they figured out how to make this and you're gonna remake it in 2016 with CGI? Like what? Why would you do that? Total Recall, that was another one I remember? that wasn't good and the I never saw it. A Point Break, which was a really weird one. I remember when they remade Point Break, that made zero sense to me.
00:37:41
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because it wasn't like a great movie by any means, you know, like kind of total recall wasn't either. But it's like it was inventive and it was fun and it was perfect for the time. It was Arnold and Arnold is great and everything because he's always called Conan the Barbarian was remade, too. Yeah. And one of the perhaps the the weirdest one. I forgot about this. Did you guys ever see back in the day, the movie Flatliners with Kiefer Sutherland and yeah Julia Roberts? Yeah. They remade that in 2017. It got a four percent. Oh, wow. Unrotten Tomatoes. So not good.
00:38:11
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So I played hockey with a guy that wrote that movie. Oh, really? know Yeah. Yeah. he he made Wow. I mean, it's a really cool concept. I remember loving that movie when I was a kid. Yeah, it was a great one. So what, you know, I could, I could, I could sit here and talk about the movies themselves, but like, and I know you say it's a, it's a money thing, but the data shows it's not.
00:38:32
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Why keep trying? I think they're optimistic. it's good you I mean, is it is it just the idea that like a known quantity has got more chance than an unknown? Probably. Right. Cause like if you're making a ah movie, like you're if you're making like, you know, let's say it costs you a hundred million dollars to make a movie and it's going to cost you a hundred million dollars to make a movie. Nobody's ever heard of it. It's going to make it cost you a hundred million dollars to make a movie somebody has heard of. And then maybe, maybe they're kind of what Greg was talking about earlier is like, maybe they're hoping that it's nostalgia. And, and you know, it's like,
00:39:00
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It's like, oh, I saw this movie. I saw the original as a kid. We should go watch it. to You know what? I'm going to go watch it with my 13 year old kid. Right. And so then you go watch it. And so now, um you know, maybe that's what's going on. And it and it must work. The math must work out long term for them to be doing it. cause It's a business, like you've said. Yeah. Yeah. But but i mean it maybe it does seem like it's a business that doesn't really succeed. But then how many first run movies or whatever are successful?
00:39:25
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Yeah. and And again, like it's always ah it's a risk, right? Like you don't know you don't know what's going to be successful, you know, in the at the box office. I mean, how many movies have we seen that everyone thought we're going to be like some crazy thing and it just never pans out, you know? I mean, man, the the last couple of like they are not doing well in Hollywood right now. Movies are not like every it's almost every movie they put out just crashes.
00:39:49
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I know. yeah i know well it's like It seems to be like like it has to be some sort of an epic or a really killer animated movie. or i'll You're kind of fucked. like I get why people put movies out on Apple TV and Netflix now. yeah It just makes a lot more sense. yeah well and and like ah like i have but it's also it's like I watch previews now and I'm just And I don't know if it's because I'm getting older, but I'm just like, that doesn't look good. Like, cause like, remember like, like in the nineties, we, there was like a lot of really, there was like true romance and pulp fiction. And there was just like a lot of really good movies that have good stories. And now it just seems like they're, the stories are just, they're not that great. Or am I just old and I just know what the story is.
00:40:34
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Well, maybe maybe I think the way we're consuming our entertainment has changed so much. And that's a great point. And I think TV now is probably a little bit more compelling because it's so much easier to consume and we're able we have the.
00:40:46
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ability to watch it broken into one hour chunks and they could be longer stories. Whereas it it really has to be a lot to drag my ass out of my house and go to a fucking movie so I could sit somewhere else. Right. Sitting in my living room. Right. Yeah. And pay and and pay twenty four dollars for popcorn. And yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's like a hundred dollars to go see a movie. And it is. Yeah. It is. Yeah. So you're you're right, Greg. I mean, it's really like the only reason that I do it every once in a while is because it's like because I have this like nostalgic past about movies, you know,
00:41:16
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and And that was all all we had to do at high school. We just watched, we we had a $2 theater, not far from our house that played like the second run shit. And we'd just go there and watch whatever. I saw everything. That's how I saw Psycho. I did the same thing. I saw every, I was at the movies at least once a week.
00:41:32
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Right. Us too. Yeah. you like Where's where's our fight club? like You know, like, where's it like a movie? This is good because that movie was so fucking good. Yeah, it was great. It was great. And maybe on attention spans. We just don't want to sit somewhere for a couple hours either. Like, if you just look at social media or TikTok, you're watching these short videos. Yeah. That's kind of how we want our team. It now, it seems.
00:41:55
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And you go to a movie and again, you know I don't want to harp on the prices, but it like it is really expensive. You're right. and i mean for For me and Elwood and Sheena to go see a movie, and we we can spend 80 bucks. They have a lot. They have beer there now too, which doesn't help but yeah the price. but but like And then you sit through 20 minutes worth of commercials and then another 15 minutes worth of of previews. And then you finally get to the movie and you get home and it's like,
00:42:18
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ah like You know, 1030 at night and you're like, what the fuck just happened? We could have just stayed here. Why did I put that in my butt? Well, what? OK, John, that's the second time you've brought this up to. Oh, um yeah, um it's a crime to stop putting random stuff. It's a cry for help. i could tell I mean, I know that logically. I know that. But emotionally, I'm just like, oh, it's triangle. It's still it's still a hole. I'm going to put this this time pine cone.
00:42:48
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All right, that's all i that's all I got. John, you're up. um Well, i mean my topic I feel like my topic bridges the two of yours. so Is it about Hispanic movies? It's my movie, yeah. is yeah It is. No, it's ah it's about it's about minimum wage.
00:43:06
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Oh, that doesn't really go between those two. I was just trying to connect. Because if you work at a movie theater, trying to, yeah. yeah yeah And then you're probably going to sell secrets to the competing theater.
00:43:20
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Hey, Regal, I've got some information for you. people don't like This is Kevin from AMC. People don't like remakes, man. People don't like remakes. I heard it on a podcast. um So was I've been ah been like ah really fascinated by this election cycle and just watching everybody um and and and you know and just to help people dig in. And ah you know and i see I see being over and over again, people like inflation, inflation, inflation, inflation, and and it's here, right? So it's definitely like people are filling it.
00:43:49
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But I was just like, but also I always find it interesting to the same people don't like, if you try to, like, if you're like, Oh, we'll vote for people who will raise them minimum wage. And they're like, well, you can't raise them in which gives you raise them in a widget causes inflation. But I'm like, but we have inflation and we, and we haven't raised them in a wage in a long time. So I was like, that's what it's more. Yeah. Or just recently raised minimum wage.
00:44:12
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ah not federal oh so federal federal minimum federal minimum wage hasn't been raised and like a shit like thirteen years something yeah isn't it like seven something or eight something seven twenty five so well eleven twenty five yeah so the so bill yeah well California's like 15, right? Or 17. Yeah. Colorado's not far from that. I don't think it's quite that high, but yeah, I think you guys are the highest minimum wage. yeah but like you would think that John might know what it is yeah because he's making it.
00:44:42
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topic ah Oh, because of that. It's $16 an hour in California. It's $16? Yeah. um So the Fair Labor Standards Act of 1938 is actually blah, blah, blah, blah. That's when they came up with the $7.25. Yeah. In 1938, it never raises $8.38. But in 1938, it was amazing. Oh my gosh, people were living large. I got a Model T in a house.
00:45:09
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um So it was a US law established to protect workers. And by 1940, this law had set standards for minimum wage, overtime pay, and child labor. So, Elwood can thank this law for you guys not putting into work. oh Wonderful. yeah yeah Unless it's a family business. Yeah, that's true. um And then you can put them on the payroll.
00:45:32
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Uh, it aimed to ensure fair pay for a reasonable work week and to eliminate labor conditions, uh, detrimental to workers wellbeing. So, and I think it did, it worked, right? Like, I mean, we don't get, uh, like people don't blow up anymore at work or if they do, there's like an investigation and they're like, people, people talk, people do still blow up at work, John. So we're on the same page.
00:45:57
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I mean, but not like they used to. right Do you hear about that girl that worked at Walmart in Canada and she fucking got walked into the oven? Evan, yeah, I read about that today. Oh, that happened just now or just recently? Yeah, a couple days ago. Yeah. Not good. Locked in what oven? Like they have.
00:46:15
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They had some kind of, uh, probably like where they do the rotisserie chicken. Probably. what shit I mean, was, was it murder? No. Well, I don't, mean it could have been. i I heard all kinds of conflicting stories. Like I heard that she, I mean, there's a, there's a bunch of safety features on the inside of the oven to get you out of there, but I'm pretty sure that's, there's going to probably be a lawsuit.
00:46:38
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Oh yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Cause she's a teenager. That's Walmart's going to be, that'd be settled out of court. According to John Banks law, this is John banks law.com to schedule a consultation. If you're listening right now, Canadian girls family. Hi, this is this awful. I just called it. John banks law.com. How can I help you?
00:46:59
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they Sometimes I get a confused and I say, hand job hut. Oh, you're telling about the law. Sorry. Hold on. Sorry. Hang on. Let yeah we put a different shirt on real quick. Just helps me. let me helps me when Let me pick up these latex gloves.
00:47:15
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so um yeah no that's it was really horrible like oh god could you imagine no you just no um i tried to watch shogun that did you guys watch the show shogun there's this the new series i started i'm watching it i loved it i think we talked about this maybe because did you you didn't dig it greg no i i did i just kind of stopped watching it and never picked it back up again I had a, like, it was weird. It was like, I must've been just my mood, but like the violence right out the gate, I was like, good God. When they boil in the guy and like the cauldron and they're just like boiling him to death and he's screaming. I was like, I shut it off. And I think I put it like a, I don't know, cartoon on or something. This is too much. This is too much. Put on Guy Fieri. Diners drive through. Diners drive into times.
00:48:06
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You're like, I need something happy to run summer baking championship. So just make it a little easier on myself. So do you think, do you think he like makes himself throw up after every cut? Because it's like, how's that guy not having a heart attack? Right. Guy Fieri. Yeah. Cause of all this stuff. Well, they told it, didn't they tell the guy the man versus food or whatever they, like a doctor said, oh yeah you can't do this. So you're going to die. He looked like he was going to die. He did look like he was going to die. yeah Yeah. I don't know. We got off topic. There's a lot of like unhealthy looking food critics. That's part of their job.
00:48:34
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You remember Jonathan Gold? Yep. Yeah. So that's there's a um Kevin, because you don't live out in l LA. So there's this guy on NPR called Jonathan Gold. um And he I mean, it was amazing. He would be like he would go to these restaurants. but He was this very overweight guy. And he died of ah died of a heart attack, like in his 50s or 60s, I think. So he definitely wasn't old. He was happy. He was happy. But man, I mean, he was definitely like, any time anytime you'd recommend a restaurant, you'd go there. And it'd be amazing.
00:49:03
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The guy had a great voice too. Yeah, he did. He did. And now now it's Evan Kleinman. Just in case anybody wants to know. Yeah, yeah. I mean, ah this is riveting. Any a NPR heads out there? um So the Fair Labor Center Act was championed by FDR. He pushed for the act as part of his New Deal, aiming to improve labor conditions and provide economic security during the tough times of the Great Depression.
00:49:32
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I heard it wasn't that great. People always bitch about it. Yeah. Well, they, you know, the banks, the banks.
00:49:40
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So um is it like do you still feel like people are bitching about? Oh, it just seems like a little too. They didn't get creative enough with the name. no Well, was the great that was the Great War, the Great Depression, ah the Great War, the Great Depression. yeah And then there's a word great means it'll be it'll be it'll be Depression one and Depression two.
00:50:02
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Well, it's it's yeah I don't know, like we everything. Nowadays, we put it. We put gate on everything. Yeah. Watergate and what's that? Pizzagate. Pizzagate. Yeah. Pizzagate. Oh, OK.
00:50:17
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No, I like that you say Colgate Colgate Colgate. Oh, yeah. So what do you think that what do you what do you think the first minimum wage was federal minimum wage in 1938? 1938. Yeah. Five cents.
00:50:32
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I'm going to go with 24 cents. Oh, well, price is right. Rules. Uh, Kevin gets it. And also because he was way fucking close, 25 cents. You you get a car and Greg gets jack shit You know the cars on those shows are not the best. no You're gonna use Mercedes. I got it from yeah i got always handsome yeah with that i'm fine with that But like that's usually like oh, it's the new Civic, thank you it' the New Toyota Sentry or D Civic What's a centaur who makes it? when is is This car doesn't even have a brand Beverly Bible Belt
00:51:12
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What? I've never heard of Fard. What what company is Fard? With a J? F-A-J-A-R-D? It's Norwegian.
00:51:27
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um Fardigmashtang. So, yeah, so it was it's 25 cents. 25 cents, okay. So what are your apartment, John? Yes, I'm just beeped. I've been watching a lot of horror movies lately and you kind of like...
00:51:41
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He looks, he looks very vulnerable right now. I think that because the camera's so low, it definitely looks like he could be murdered at any moment. That's, have you been talking about dad? Cause that's what he thinks. He thinks definitely a blur, which situation going on with you. So the average national home price in 1938 actually happened. And we're not even sure if anything happened then. But I love that movie. I made so much money on that movie. Of course you did. Well, yeah. Cause it costs like 40 bucks to make. Yeah. And everybody, everybody who was in on it, they had, it was, uh, kind of wrote this thing about it where they, they all split. They all agreed they were, they did it for free. They all like everybody, the actors, the crew, everything, they all did it for free. And they all like agreed that they would just split. If it made any money, they'd split the profits and it was like 150 million or it made a lot of money. Yeah. It made a lot of money. Um,
00:52:34
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So yeah, so the average in a home price of 1930 was $3,900. And the same thing with the ET, the extra. Similar story. ET ET fucking made out like a bandit had Reese's pieces for days. A lot of people don't know ET was played by Dustin Hoffman.
00:52:52
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And he actually looked like that at the time. He just had major reconstructive surgery, too. Yeah, he had a piano fall on his head. He was an accordion. He was doing cartoons back then. Act me. And the average national rent was $27 a month.
00:53:07
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So you said 30, was it 3,900 for a house? 3,900 for a house. Yeah. um and so and i was like So there was there was no 30-year mortgages at that time. Those those came around in the 50s. So then you would to buy a house back then, you needed like half down, so or you know or you needed somebody to like finance it for you, and it usually wasn't a bank. so But it but if if you could have financed it, it would have been around $27 a month, your your mortgage, and on a 30-year mortgage.
00:53:32
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um That sounds nice. But here's the—so a person making minimum wage or $572 a year only spent about 50% of their monthly income on rent, right? um Which sounds like a lot if you're like, oh wow, that's a lot of money. But ah the average cost of—to feed yourself in 1938 was about $9 a month or about 19% of your monthly income. So after rent and groceries, a person would have spent $36 of their 48 monthly income
00:54:03
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And theyd have so they have $12 left. and and And when you think that, or when you're like, oh, so a movie, guess how much a fucking movie cost in 1938? It won't be a penny. It was 25 cents. So you basically, a movie was 25 cents. Bowling was 13 cents. you know To go get a burger was like 10 cents. get a milk and And you're still talking about minimum wage. Yeah, you're still talking about minimum wage, right? And so so basically you at making minimum wage in 1938, you could have an apartment,
00:54:31
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You could have rent have food and still go out and do things, right? And that's and that's living by yourself if you got a roommate, you know, that'd be even you know, you'd you'd save even more right you would you would that's that's how roommates work. Tell me how this works. So you get a room mate He's your mate text, email, uh, John at John law down banks law and backslash housing.com.
00:55:05
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00:55:29
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00:55:32
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um So the minimum wage has been raised 22 times since 1938 and as ah as as of October 2024, the federal minimum wage is $7.25 an hour, which has not been raised since July 24th, 2009. Wow, that's crazy.
00:55:48
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And again, there's a lot of states have raised their – right, of course, yeah. But I think Alabama, I think they – I think it's $7.25 an hour. I don't think they have a state minimum wage. I think it's the federal minimum wage is what they use. I thought they didn't want – I thought they wanted the federal government out of their business. Well, they do. That's – they're saying that they don't want to – that's why they're So, if you take this math, and so this means a person making a minimum wage brings home about $15 –,080 a year, the average price, and that's based on a 40 hour work week. But all these numbers are based on 40 hour work week. That makes sense, John. I like what you're saying. Guys, I just needed some numbers. We get it. Again, I can't wait till you tell us how fucked
00:56:32
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you are if you make a minimum wage. oh it's yeah so So the average price of home today is $412,300 and a 30-year mortgage at 7% would cost a person $2,194.43 a month if they could come up with a down payment to buy the thing, not to mention and There's the cost of property taxes and homeowners insurance. So so basically, if you're making $15,080, oh shit, I didn't do that. I didn't put that in there. So if you're making $15,080 a year, well, hold on. That's embarrassing. That's better than mine. you're making I was like, 63% of remakes have higher financial. That's all it says. I'm looking at it right now. So you're basically, you're bringing home $1,256 a month.
00:57:14
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Holy shit. You can't afford a house. ah the average the The national average rent is $1,558 a month for a studio. Home prices have gone up 4,000% since 1938, and the minimum wage has only gone up 2,800%, right? um And then the- John, I don't know if that's sustainable.
00:57:42
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I don't think it is. I don't think we're gonna, yeah, don't I don't think it is. um And then the average price for a movie is $11.90, which I'm gonna say. Jesus fuck, man. I don't know how the fuck they came up with that average, because I have not gone, like, because when i even when I go to a movie in Alabama, it's still like 15 bucks. Yeah, i don't I've not seen $11 in a long time. So they must be basing that on Wyoming? and I feel like when Sheena and Elwood and I go to a movie, it's like, it's like,
00:58:07
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45 bucks just in tickets alone. Yeah. You know, 45, 50 bucks just in tickets alone. Yeah. And I remember like, yeah, like what is it? Kids is, kid there's ah do you even save money on kids? Oh, it's like, it's like two bucks. Yeah. It's nothing. And, and the kid's not going to last the whole movie because again, it takes so long to get to the actual movie that by then he's already halfway done. So we get about, we've only seen half of movies so far with him.
00:58:31
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But paid full price. We've never seen the whole movie. I still don't know how tin Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles Mutant Mayhem ends. I guarantee you, it's pizza. Who's the rat? What's his name? Splinter. Splinter. He kills everybody. No, he goes on a rampage. yeah Just like Shogun. Boils all the turtles in water. Boiling turtle turtles. Turtle soup, baby.
00:58:58
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Italians turtle soup. Oh, and so in the average, so right now and and and the average single person spends $336 a month on food. So that's $4,032 a year, which is 27% of their total annual income which i will say numbers, which which in 19. So in 1938, it was about 19% of your income.
00:59:18
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So that actually hasn't gone up that much, you know, over the last hundred years. I mean, it so again, that it's not as over lining though. No, no, it's not. No, it's definitely not. that Cause you, cause you fucking have bone on your money on rent so you don't have money for food and you have to have healthcare. care it's yeah It's just crazy. Um, and so, uh,
00:59:36
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the Oh, and so so basically, when i was like I said, what what started me thinking on this was like people can complain about inflation. And so I was like looking into like, you know, one, why aren't they raising minimum wage? And it's people think that they they have this belief that if you raise minimum wage, that it causes inflation. And so ah historical data shows that the minimum wage has had little impact on how companies price goods.
00:59:59
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Right? And so basically, especially ah historically minimum wage increases were large one-shot changes imposed with little advanced notice for businesses, um but many recent state and city level minimum wage increases have been scheduled to be implemented over time and often are indexed to some measure of price inflation. These small scheduled minimum wage hikes seem to have smaller effects on prices than large one-time increases and in some cases have no No impact at all. Right. So when people complain about inflation, it's like, it's not that that's not it because we have it. We haven't raised minimum wage since 2009 federally. And we've had a fucked up of inflation in the last three years. So, yeah you know, um and then by looking at changes in restaurant food pricing during this period of 1978 to 2015, McDonald and Nielsen find that prices rose by just 0.36% for every 10% increase in the minimum wage.
01:00:53
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which is only about half the size reported in previous studies. They also observed that small minimum wage increases do not lead to higher prices and may actually reduce prices. So, um so ah you know, history defeats itself because, I don't know, capitalism. And movie rebanks. And spies. And Russian spies. So, um but and yeah. We tied it all together.
01:01:23
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And then, and then the, you know, one of the things is like ah in the housing market, I was reading so for in California specifically, there's for every 10,000 people looking for a home, there's only 3,900 homes available.
01:01:38
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Right. So that's that's one of the. Believe me, I know all about that. Yeah. My wife is a realtor. Yeah. Yeah. and A lot of inventory out there because no we'll know everyone's scared of the and interest rates. but But even before these numbers, that was from those were like like twenty twenty one numbers or twenty twenty two. Oh, OK. We're just not in demand. Yeah, there's just there's just not enough houses.
01:01:57
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Right. yeah And there's, you know, um and so I tell you what, I don't know about you guys, but out here, like I cannot believe how many apartments are going up. Yeah. Like just apartments, apartments, apartments, apartments, every everywhere. Like there's new construction. I just assume it's probably apartment apartments and a lot of times is. It's crazy how many how much there they're they're building, how many how many apartment complexes. And it's not, you know, it's like the big, huge, like monstrous complexes and stuff.
01:02:22
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and they stay and they stay full like I know like the building I live in it's I think it's like 80 something units and and they're yeah always full I mean and there's always people moving out but there's always like there's always people moving in to replace them right it's like apartments here do not stay empty very long at all and they're not I live in like one of the cheaper ones. Some of these, I mean, there's like two, three bedrooms here that go for like 5,000 a month, jesus you know? And it's like couples move in there and I'm just like, what do you guys do? Yeah. What do you guys do for a living? Cause like, can you hire me? oh yeah I'll be yours. Oh, look at that. Greg, he's already ready to jump ship. Yeah. Well, I'm not, I don't want a $5,000 apartment. but So yeah yeah. Anyway, so the pressing. Yeah.
01:03:05
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Yeah, I mean, i you know, it's not it's it's one of those. It's one of those those subjects that everything you said was like not surprising. You know what I mean? Like, it's like, no, that makes sense. Yeah, that makes sense. But we just keep just we just go along with it. And we're like, yeah, we're just going to get fucked in the ass and and have shitty remake movies. No No, we're handsome. Fucking sold out. Yeah. you know Yeah, we're going to.
01:03:31
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I mean, this works, man. That's a great way to tie it all together. We're going to get fucked in the ass and he's going to, he's going to show it to his army buddy. He sure is. Without our consent. and bit For some reason, in closed caption TV, even though there's far better technology that exists. There's way, way more of sophisticated technology. Well, this was a while ago. All right. Well, it was great talking to you guys. Thank you, everybody, for listening here on History Defeats Itself. I had fun. I hope you had fun. I hope the two of you had fun. I did. I had so much fun. Indeed. It's always a good time. Indubitably.